< 1336868103 611690 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-2-127-133.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336868281 379172 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-153-181.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1336868301 259404 :derdon!~derdon@pD9E1CF41.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336869096 337543 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbXfyH0rt3M < 1336869097 237260 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :<3 < 1336870172 473826 :xander345!569caffc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.156.175.252 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336870192 101776 :xander345!569caffc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.156.175.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1336870243 19184 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rehi < 1336870257 371178 :xander345!569caffc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.156.175.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does that mean? < 1336870263 697469 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi again < 1336870271 138980 :xander345!569caffc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.156.175.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i get it < 1336870308 117783 :xander345!569caffc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.156.175.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wanted to see if the owner of esolangs wanted to do a link exchagen with http://codecompiler.info < 1336870364 967820 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you're still here, right? < 1336870382 259647 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1336870390 362415 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :xander345: can you specify what you mean by link exchange exactly? < 1336870440 448495 :xander345!569caffc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.156.175.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well because i'm adding support for more and more esolangs on codecompiler we could link to each others site as both of our visitors care about esolangs < 1336870466 659277 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, wouldn't linking the compiler from the pages of the languages it supports be more reasonable? < 1336870508 548253 :xander345!569caffc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.156.175.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeh that would be good < 1336870561 643614 :xander345!569caffc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.156.175.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it only does about 5 right now but it's really easy to add more so we can have more links with each other < 1336870897 450656 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, anybody can add relevant external links to pages on the wiki... < 1336871004 591391 :xander345!569caffc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.156.175.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are they dofollow and would you like me to put a link esolangs.org on codecompiler.info ? < 1336871107 156988 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mediawiki nofollows links to avoid spamming < 1336871199 283696 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the whole of esolangs.org runs on MediaWiki < 1336871291 80313 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :xander345: how many visitors (or at least hits) does your site get a month, anyway? esolangs.org is relatively high-traffic (for a small site, at least) < 1336871451 554751 :xander345!569caffc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.156.175.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was getting about 500 a day when it worked but now that it's been on a sever for 2 months where it doesn't actually work the traffic has droped but i'm getting a vps for it in the next few days and it should get backup and i'm adding a register system where you get to complie more per day if you refer more people < 1336871499 381406 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :500 visitors or hits? < 1336871633 325709 :xander345!569caffc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.156.175.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :visitors per day < 1336871653 917883 :xander345!569caffc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.156.175.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if hits aren't visitors what are they? i always though they were the same as visitors < 1336871664 222762 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hits are individual page loads; visitors are usually counted by unique IPs < 1336871668 946763 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hits are a lot easier to count < 1336871698 380167 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just checked; esolangs.org gets about 23000-26000 hits per day; it'll be trickier to get the number of visits, but I'll try and write an awk script to do it... < 1336871854 921650 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, we get about 1250-1380 visitors per day < 1336871925 579287 :xander345!569caffc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.156.175.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats pretty good < 1336872008 807171 :xander345!569caffc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.156.175.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll put codecompiler links in all the languages it supports and add one in the navigation bar < 1336872017 233910 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which navigation bar? < 1336872084 274892 :xander345!569caffc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.156.175.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one where it says Home Esolangs Codepanel.net About Us Login / Register < 1336872095 259317 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Did you ever get that Stripe shirt? < 1336872110 285059 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1336872182 802232 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the wiki already has some links to your site, actually < 1336872191 863139 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suspect there might be quite a lot of overlap between your visitors and our visitors, really < 1336872204 285248 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :where are you getting the visitor count statistic from? < 1336872216 475902 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mine is from the nginx access logs with duplicate IPs removed < 1336872334 266723 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, I think removing the nofollow (which I'm not entirely sure how to do, anyway, and which would require modifying LocalSettings.php) in return for visitors might count as an ad, which I cannot add to the site < 1336872472 528098 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :xander345: hmm, codecompiler.info fails to compile the cell test in http://www.hevanet.com/cristofd/brainfuck/tests.b < 1336872481 839313 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure what the problem is; perhaps because I didn't select an OS? when I do that, the esolangs list disappears < 1336872547 702227 :xander345!569caffc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.156.175.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeh it's because i'm getting a new server in a few days so until then nothing will compiler < 1336872553 625564 :xander345!569caffc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.156.175.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*compile < 1336872755 649975 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :xander345: out of curiosity, what sandboxing are you using? < 1336872863 8024 :xander345!569caffc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.156.175.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't need one because it doesn't actually run any of the programs, people have uploaded virus and scripts and it compiles them and nothing else happens, everybody was telling me they could take it down easily but they were ALL wrong < 1336872887 984019 :xander345!569caffc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.156.175.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do not let anybody understand how the site works < 1336872921 730631 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, you support D; D supports running code at compile time < 1336872928 607218 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and security through obscurity is generally considered a bad idea < 1336872989 15070 :xander345!569caffc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.156.175.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :D doesn't work yet < 1336873002 849344 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, but when it does... :) < 1336873047 665420 :xander345!569caffc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.156.175.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :codecompiler controls how it is compiled all the users controls is what is in the file < 1336873068 78086 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :right: D lets you run code at compile-time < 1336873070 461673 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :with its template stuff < 1336873075 683513 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just by writing a code file < 1336873155 359190 :xander345!569caffc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.156.175.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats why i've not include D yet < 1336873171 862845 :xander345!569caffc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.156.175.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm going to put this in: http://php.net/manual/en/runkit.sandbox.php before re-release < 1336873188 894060 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that just sandboxes PHP itself, not any process it runs < 1336873198 641059 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'll probably want UMLBox or a virtual machine for the latter < 1336873207 697096 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(UMLBox is what our EgoBot and HackEgo bots, which allow execution of arbitrary code, work) < 1336873209 885287 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1336873211 330250 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(UMLBox is what our EgoBot and HackEgo bots, which allow execution of arbitrary code, use) < 1336873323 533591 :xander345!569caffc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.156.175.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do i use that from php? < 1336873367 645079 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a standalone program, so probably use whatever mechanism you currently use to call the compilers < 1336873368 522350 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://bitbucket.org/GregorR/umlbox < 1336873610 818474 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1336873617 8668 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :xander345: Anyway, if you'd like to get nofollow removed from links, bring it up on the community portal's talk page to see what the community thinks; I would be breaking trust of several people if I were to do it out of my own volition rather than the community's. < 1336873649 446160 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Esolang_talk:Community_portal < 1336873666 17395 :xander345!569caffc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.156.175.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i went to esolangs and saw that they were all dofollow links anyway < 1336873680 923539 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, they're not < 1336873685 690075 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :internal links are < 1336873688 160572 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :external links aren't: < 1336874045 52897 :xander345!569caffc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.156.175.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn < 1336874210 594723 :derdon!~derdon@pD9E1CF41.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336874326 541719 :xander345!569caffc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.156.175.252 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1336875397 384860 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's that solved < 1336875497 814566 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :temporarily, at least < 1336875520 620048 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, have I spoken in here about my love of people sequence-breaking live-action gameshows? it isn't really the right channel… < 1336875646 76647 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :How could there be a better channel? < 1336875660 166378 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I wonder what game shows can be sequence-broken ... < 1336875670 168023 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I accidentally sequence-broke Portal 2 and caused a bizarre plot hole in the process!) < 1336875733 404172 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: typically action ones where the puzzle is basically "get from A to B" or "starting at A get item X" and there's a bunch of obstacles that are meant to be combined creatively to solve the problem < 1336875767 879417 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the sequence breaks normally involve holding onto things you weren't intended to hold on (one I saw today involved hooks on the ceiling that you were meant to hang a walkway from, instead the contestant just held onto the hooks and swung across the ceilng) < 1336875790 328166 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or alternatively, gaining more height than expected (reaching things you weren't expected to reach by jumping, or by standing on the shoulders of a partner rather than sitting on them) < 1336875858 495726 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm surprised nobody's beaten one of the puzzles where you're meant to retrieve a code to unlock something by brute-forcing the code < 1336875870 692172 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems doable if you recover a few digits but not all of them < 1336875901 851131 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :depending on the way the game is presented, it may not be doable < 1336875907 606987 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, of course < 1336875914 552009 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :since it may be seen as a rules violation < 1336875916 278038 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's pretty rare, and typically fixed in future runnings of the show < 1336875928 155572 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like shows which don't penalise people for unintended solutions < 1336875950 806694 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although you're right, the show's producers could arbitrarily forbid things if they liked < 1336875968 578196 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that's particularly obnoxious in the UK version of Gladiators (the US version is known as American Gladiators in the US)) < 1336875980 901374 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the question I would say comes down to whether failure to follow instructions is a violation < 1336875986 561426 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a whole load of people getting disqualified for not going about the events the exact way they were supposed to < 1336875999 252189 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :like in Survivor, the challenges are described as "do X, then Y, then the first person to do Z wins" < 1336876007 117460 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, in the cases I was talking about, there weren't explicit instructions, you were meant to figure it out < 1336876012 481104 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that's bad < 1336876027 396410 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it could be interpreted as either "you must do X and Y and then Z" or "you must do Z. X and Y are the suggested and intented means." < 1336876044 824690 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :you definitely should not have invisible rules < 1336876058 327999 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, in the cases where sequence-breaking was allowed < 1336876062 691585 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not the cases where it was forbidden < 1336876099 703031 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh I see < 1336876101 45914 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :nevermind < 1336876113 892214 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :although my comment about Survivor's instructions stands. Are they rules or suggestions? < 1336876134 196737 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know < 1336876145 244485 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :watching closely tends to indicate they are rules, but they don't show that much on TV < 1336876148 545053 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't really watched Survivor much, btw; it's not very popular in the UK so doesn't get shown much < 1336876168 677021 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was shown more in Canada, but French subtitles really throw me off following English speech, for some reason < 1336876176 386331 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right, Ottawa < 1336876208 563248 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do the TV channels vary in language composition from province to province/city to city? < 1336876221 378727 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems unlikely that the TV in Ottawa is significantly different to the rest of Ontario < 1336876223 480999 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but perhaps it is < 1336876242 150079 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there weren't French subtitles on everything, just on some things (and some things were in French outright) < 1336876296 569014 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, it does. < 1336876322 711075 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :French shows and even subtitles are quite rare elsewhere. < 1336876348 943921 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the National Capital Region is definitely one of the most bilingual areas of the country < 1336876363 312744 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Montreal and most of New Brunswick being the others < 1336876369 70020 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is really incredibly bilingual < 1336876382 919371 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :having not visited them all, I can't say which is most < 1336876396 743558 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's kind-of funny, really, given that pretty much everyone there knows both English /and/ French it's not quite clear how they generally choose to communicate < 1336876399 804728 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but certainly all the public service is bilingual, and Ottawa is largely public service < 1336876404 563195 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably the first person to speak picks a language and other people go with it < 1336876407 710546 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336876413 848798 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :or else you alternate < 1336876424 712859 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm surprised that the languages haven't got mixed together there < 1336876433 909654 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :people using French words in English sentences, etc < 1336876437 59667 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's an interesting study in Parliament of the various approaches to speaking < 1336876446 788268 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or perhaps they have, just didn't to me because I only spoke in English < 1336876453 751554 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think so as much < 1336876470 475825 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and my British accent probably betrayed the fact that I don't actually know much French) < 1336876472 230170 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A lot of the bilingualism is for work, not cultural, reasons < 1336876484 806092 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate when it's 10:30 and I realize I didn't eat dinner X_X < 1336876496 574385 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are some English loanwords in Québecois French, but not that many the other way < 1336876507 958509 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :("c'est ok" is a particularly egregious one) < 1336876508 304857 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: am or pm? presumably pm, if you're talking about now < 1336876513 637304 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: ouch! < 1336876527 277819 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's even pronounced "kay" rather than "kah" < 1336876539 297141 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, I like the way you typed the é but not the ç < 1336876551 424211 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :forgot about the cedilla there :) < 1336876576 150289 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have a ç key on your keyboard? < 1336876621 563239 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I use dead keys < 1336876624 979087 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ç < 1336876628 961143 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(meanwhile, I conclude that Canada is actually too large for my mind to comprehend) < 1336876636 587598 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Canada is /weird/ < 1336876639 216903 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(to be fair, even the UK is close to large enough for that) < 1336876669 504565 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and it isn't very large) < 1336876760 140046 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric : Gregor: am or pm? presumably pm, if you're talking about now // yes, PM < 1336876861 940531 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: and by "dinner" you mean evening meal? < 1336876956 870219 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders how large Ottawa is compared to, say, London < 1336876960 516924 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I imagine it's smaller, but am not sure < 1336877031 436734 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: in Parliament, you get the Bloc, who always speak French to make a point, the Westerners, who can't speak French so always speak English, the MPs who aren't super-comfortable with their non-preferred language so they will only speak it in response to a question in that language, out of courtesy, and the MPs who are confident in both and switch often, even in the same speech. By convention, the Speaker is always the last kind, and ... < 1336877037 447562 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :... also by convention, the Deputy Speaker does not have the same native language as the Speaker, although the Deputy Speaker obeys the same conventions while speaking. < 1336877071 196134 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, that must be quite hard to follow < 1336877097 233282 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I looked at the parliament TV channel a bit in Canada; they were speaking in English at the time, but I couldn't really understand what they were saying anyway < 1336877111 629186 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I understood the individual points, but it was a very nomicky bit of recursive procedure < 1336877115 597441 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than actual lawmaking < 1336877115 942873 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Ottawa, was it English, French, or floor audio? < 1336877123 625446 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, it's gotten particularly bad lately < 1336877129 141375 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :was what? < 1336877134 420403 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :CPAC < 1336877144 987992 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, what I was watching was in English < 1336877147 908809 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1336877151 708420 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I didn't watch enough of it to know if it'd be in French at some point < 1336877176 618477 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's live translated < 1336877191 278055 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that makes sense, really < 1336877200 442916 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336877226 549833 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :floor audio is what they call the feed with no translation < 1336877235 674182 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :MPs have earpieces they can use to listen to the live translators < 1336877263 955150 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I imagine that most countries don't have multilingual governments < 1336877268 146940 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but Canada seems to deal with that quite well < 1336877274 92257 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. It's pretty amazing, really. < 1336877274 636519 :pikhq_!~pikhq@168-103-251-23.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1336877287 708755 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-251-23.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336877305 650736 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And they produce bilingual transcripts by the next day. < 1336877328 718180 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, I guess the real question is why Quebec hasn't become independent yet; do they not want to leave, or does the rest of the country not want them to go? < 1336877347 126141 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently visiting parliamentary delegations are consistently impressed by the turnaround time much less the turnaround time in two languages < 1336877370 158062 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It came to referendum twice and came very very close to passing the second time < 1336877370 502467 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, if it's being translated anyway, transcripts for two languages are only twice as hard as transcripts for one < 1336877381 513984 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as they can just transcript the translated audio < 1336877389 2996 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: referendum across the whole country, or across just Quebec? < 1336877393 265379 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :just Quebec < 1336877416 604994 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, but they need to be made sure to be accurate, and the live translation might not be so accurate. < 1336877425 342298 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, right < 1336877435 854574 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might be hard to actually translate it, sometimes < 1336877436 510351 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the second referendum in particular was panned for being particularly badly-worded < 1336877453 454541 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric : "This English sentence is hard to translate into French." < 1336877481 239083 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :feelings across Canada tend to vary roughly linearly with distance from Québec < 1336877500 842063 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the UK, there's actually a government body responsible for wording referendums < 1336877511 71163 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't really like their wording on the single transferable vote issue < 1336877520 789553 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but at least it wasn't as bad as some of the ones they considered < 1336877532 190975 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there was a PDF online explaining their reasoning (with focus groups backing it up!) < 1336877555 621607 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :plenty of people feel that Québec is an important part of Canada and they'd rather keep it (msyelf included) < 1336877576 666603 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is some sentiment that they're a bit of whiners and/or get special treatment and we'd be better off without them < 1336877590 83436 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but in my experience it is usually more of a "fine, let them go, see how well they do without the rest of us" < 1336877596 597353 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than a "yeah let's get rid of them" < 1336877603 398887 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that the latter don't exist, they just aren't very common < 1336877662 576030 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was a Supreme Court case trying to determine if Québec could secede unilaterally at some point, I think around the second referendum < 1336877681 191219 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The outcome was basically "they can't do so unilaterally, but if they voted to, then they couldn't just be ignored" < 1336877689 624926 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so both sides claimed it as a victory < 1336877694 379907 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :were they /trying/ to secede unilaterally? or was it a just-in-case thing? < 1336877712 364901 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the proponents of the referendum sure would have like it to be unilateral < 1336877739 544040 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I guess the answer is, that if they /did/ secede unilaterally, then they wouldn't consider the supreme court judgement binding on them anyway < 1336877765 618992 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :since then, the Clarity Act was passed, which basically sets up a minimum standard of referendum for secession, and then commits the governments to working out how it would actually work should a vote succeed < 1336877802 587737 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :reminds me a bit of the law in the UK, which says that a union can't go on strike unless its members vote for one < 1336877822 208412 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's part of the measures taken to avoid a repeat of the infamous miner's strike several decades ago < 1336877830 163303 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(4) For the purpose of subsection (3), a clear expression of the will of the population of a province that the province cease to be part of Canada could not result from < 1336877833 611249 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a) a referendum question that merely focuses on a mandate to negotiate without soliciting a direct expression of the will of the population of that province on whether the province should cease to be part of Canada; or < 1336877835 808091 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the basic idea is to avoid coercing people into striking, while still letting them do so if they want to < 1336877837 625920 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(b) a referendum question that envisages other possibilities in addition to the secession of the province from Canada, such as economic or political arrangements with Canada, that obscure a direct expression of the will of the population of that province on whether the province should cease to be part of Canada. < 1336877843 177972 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1336878033 186665 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1336878189 78089 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly, if you want a referendum to pass, you just give the yes option and /two/ no options < 1336878193 831503 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that the no options dilute each other < 1336878362 438331 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1336878387 924998 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :they should make a voting reform referendum with a number of options, using AV :P < 1336878497 336619 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That isn't proper! The vote should just be yes/no, possibly with comments if they are needed? < 1336878512 172259 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Puerto Rico actually has that problem < 1336878543 252149 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336878597 780990 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336878601 393827 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch < 1336878614 340439 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :meanwhile, apparently my IRC client juts segfaulted < 1336878615 904515 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*just < 1336879181 204613 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Puerto Rico has had referendums in the past where they are offered a) statehood b) status quo c) independence < 1336879199 780619 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dear < 1336879208 665129 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to favour the status quo? < 1336879219 349115 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My understanding is there are a fair number who would prefer a or c to b, but a and c invariably split that vote, and the indeciseveness means that the status quo gets chosen by default < 1336879240 201782 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think they're planning a new one that first says "should we accept the status quo" and then if the answer is no, they will do another to decide between statehood and independence < 1336879272 836953 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is unfair in another way, of course < 1336879286 465717 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1336879288 530953 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :approval vote would be a good solution for that sort of referendum, IMO < 1336879291 580933 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336879299 880555 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :STV would work too but seems like overkill < 1336879326 565892 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's just AV < 1336879335 584149 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :AV is lim_{n\to 1} STV < 1336879343 205023 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :where n is the number of outcomes selected < 1336879368 232986 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1336879373 822304 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but even AV is overkill for something like that < 1336879412 142939 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :approval would be good < 1336879849 52752 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What kind of dream did you have? < 1336879978 739780 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the dream I had last night, Totem was a package manager… < 1336879989 136973 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I berated it for its technological inaccuracy when I woke up < 1336880205 807252 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: btw, you're missing brilliant games of monqys-crawl < 1336880211 248383 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not the same as monqy's crawl) < 1336880263 136929 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/li/l/ < 1336880665 488479 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have type Expander = StateT [Declaration] []; but now I think that might be wrong because, it may read only some declarations while expanding macros, and then the macros are capable to add new declarations, but we need to keep track of which declaration added on, which the compiler then may need to call the expander again to expand macros in new blocks, etc < 1336880843 670081 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am somewhat confuse how to do < 1336880936 176014 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-251-23.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1336881101 394943 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-251-23.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336881564 711885 :pikhq_!~pikhq@168-103-251-23.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336881596 526995 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-251-23.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336883152 138804 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-99-182.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1336885593 18973 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I just won agora < 1336885597 900936 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: congrats < 1336885601 252074 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm trying to win monqys-crawl < 1336885603 46972 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's /really difficult/ < 1336885608 90271 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you should telnet termcast.org, choose elliottmq < 1336885612 672731 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :view a brief glimpse of monqys-crawl endgame < 1336885614 799645 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's nothing like crawl) < 1336885623 122053 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who wants a MATHEMATICS PUZZLE?!? < 1336885698 538355 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-225-178.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336885859 161413 :pikhq_!~pikhq@168-103-251-23.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1336886183 648880 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Grah, PuTTY < 1336886701 148305 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336886782 24777 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336891297 512602 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :*.net *.split < 1336891297 639955 :SimonRC!~sc@fof.durge.org QUIT :*.net *.split < 1336891297 956229 :ion!ion@heh.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1336891667 785194 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1336892225 912028 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1336892396 65654 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336892756 338286 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336892822 707762 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1336893314 157941 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: oh dear, I just noticed the domain name at the top of proggit right now < 1336893319 605307 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"alan.dipert.org" < 1336893323 76462 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it THE ALAN DIPERT, I wonder? < 1336893325 154338 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i commented on that earlier < 1336893326 55653 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is < 1336893585 564089 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, I think I've seen that page before < 1336893860 465837 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alan Dipert? < 1336893877 437320 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*THE ALAN DIPERT < 1336895171 174929 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-140-41.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336895171 882230 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: Wychodzi < 1336895214 215369 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-225-178.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1336895517 256081 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1336896547 210140 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1336896692 114921 :augur!~augur@206.196.187.122 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336896692 133111 :SimonRC!~sc@fof.durge.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1336896692 133263 :ion!ion@heh.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336896735 134330 :augur!~augur@206.196.187.122 NICK :Guest19059 < 1336897385 847500 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell kmc i just can't choose: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/search/?q=html&cat=personas&appver=&platform= ----------- https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/search/?q=php&cat=personas < 1336897385 974785 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1336898139 747516 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-84-23.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336898141 998836 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-84-23.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello! < 1336898202 643327 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi Taneb < 1336898206 86607 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you see the update? < 1336898208 743218 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-84-23.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1336899679 141194 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-84-23.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Quit: brb < 1336900181 673540 :Guest19059!~augur@206.196.187.122 NICK :augur < 1336901724 726035 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-145-48.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336901792 639150 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-140-41.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1336902031 929466 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336902189 826963 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so a thought just occured to me.. for a program which takes code with gotos, and reorganizes it into code without gotos < 1336902215 739740 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you mean 'without gotos'? < 1336902231 691691 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you mean loop-based, it's extremely difficult, if not impossible. < 1336902264 631016 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can always write the equivalent program without gotos < 1336902270 417598 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :loops, conditionals, loop breaks, continues, anything but the gotos < 1336902272 340196 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :However automating that transform might be a bit hard < 1336902280 82614 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: why < 1336902280 216058 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1336902292 887347 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1336902293 67998 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater_ said 1h 21m 46s ago: i just can't choose: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/search/?q=html&cat=personas&appver=&platform= ----------- https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/search/? < 1336902293 175710 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :q=php&cat=personas < 1336902296 996875 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt anybody uses gotos without a good reason anymore < 1336902318 186436 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-, obviously you can assuming the two things you're translating between are both TC. < 1336902334 148527 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahhh < 1336902343 98623 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: help me choose < 1336902346 714947 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is BASIC TC? < 1336902359 576240 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :when nelhage published http://livegrep.com some redditor was aghast to note that there are "over 50" gotos in the Linux kernel < 1336902365 199392 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait < 1336902368 154274 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are like... many thousands < 1336902391 558434 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just write an interpreter for the goto language in the structured one, then get it to interpret the goto code. < 1336902399 426176 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: Automating that transform might be a bit hard? < 1336902404 110934 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: hahaha < 1336902404 129353 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's, uh, what a compiler does. < 1336902410 722386 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's no structured control at the machine levle. < 1336902412 871241 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*level. < 1336902418 10717 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i think you have it backwards < 1336902423 479108 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, he means no structured control -> structured control < 1336902428 417622 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, oops. < 1336902438 9785 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i really meant some structued control -> all structured :D < 1336902443 760113 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that's still trivial, all you need is a switch and a while loop. < 1336902444 451528 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey cool, alt-. makes a mid-dot < 1336902454 998915 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I AM GOING TO DO FULL STOPS LIKE THIS FROM NOW ON < 1336902458 391163 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc will now complain at me for saying "trivial". < 1336902461 292762 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :… < 1336902469 854228 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it might be an acceptable use < 1336902476 806610 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey elliott remember when you did all ellipses like that < 1336902481 478013 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :œ < 1336902483 846781 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :after all the reason i complain about "awesome" and "trivial" is not that I think these words should never be used < 1336902486 30044 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: it looks like grey block for me < 1336902489 877624 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, he'd complain more if someone said "solved problem" < 1336902493 972168 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: awesome < 1336902500 774757 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott :V < 1336902501 72239 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one good application for this would be so that people have no excuses to have code with gotos < 1336902504 971038 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti, even more reason to use it! < 1336902510 966709 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :§ < 1336902513 801653 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: some code is much nicer when written with goto < 1336902514 835426 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :A switch is just cheating < 1336902518 318631 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :In C at least < 1336902525 98279 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially when you have only C control flow < 1336902527 671134 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20, you realise the goto battle was won long ago, right? < 1336902527 689076 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :A switch without fallovers or whatever. < 1336902533 259740 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :■■■■■■■■ < 1336902537 634633 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :∞ < 1336902545 873205 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :┌──────────┐ < 1336902546 48079 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :│ ■■■■■■■■ │ < 1336902546 65838 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :└──────────┘ < 1336902550 659344 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i will start making full stops like this ■ < 1336902556 705556 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :there■ < 1336902556 877309 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nobody uses goto as their primary control structure any more. < 1336902563 118966 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :÷πª•∞¢´∑ß≈ç√∫~∆˚øª•¶§∞åÎØÍÚÏÎ`˜ÂÁ¢ < 1336902584 554600 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :because a full stop really needs to be a fully black character■ < 1336902593 169713 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I can type § without using any modifier keys kinda like ½ < 1336902597 629129 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :≈ƒµçk≈ < 1336902601 359564 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it would be ridiculous to stop using goto altogether. < 1336902603 597948 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :☭ < 1336902603 615967 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :åäöäåöäå < 1336902610 326733 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :inb4 zalgo < 1336902613 943449 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have therefore said nothing :D < 1336902617 681748 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ΉÅÊÓ ÍÓÈÊ < 1336902624 588821 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, zalgo? < 1336902633 294784 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no zalgo 4 u < 1336902637 322703 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ow < 1336902640 144095 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that hurt■ < 1336902644 204525 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :πøøπ < 1336902648 526335 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :®øø∂ < 1336902661 606532 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :§üπé® < 1336902665 944096 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :˙鬬ø < 1336902666 979494 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm my boxifying script probably does not handle combining characters < 1336902692 130165 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`MAN' < 1336902692 991852 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you have a boxifying script■ < 1336902700 225324 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: MAN': not found < 1336902702 675326 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`´ < 1336902705 193871 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :√ < 1336902706 54102 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: ´: not found < 1336902710 159037 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i can put stuff in boxes < 1336902727 949781 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, that makes sense■ < 1336902794 947249 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it does handle < 1336902797 926842 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :┌────────────────────────────────┐ < 1336902800 895809 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :│ FULLWIDTH LATIN │ < 1336902803 484225 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :└────────────────────────────────┘ < 1336902828 399387 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :But... does it handle fullwidth CJK? < 1336902832 14312 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336902838 109928 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :great < 1336902838 635146 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fwiw, it doesn't work in xchat anyways because variable width font■ < 1336902844 897399 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i get the character properties from ICU < 1336902852 531374 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater_: :( < 1336902858 470366 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it never did, kmc■ < 1336902859 27300 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Variable width fonts for IRC are just wrong < 1336902869 133829 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :as hard as you might try■ < 1336902881 176165 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It could work < 1336902884 369911 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: that's only until you start using them and your eyes don't hurt anymore■ < 1336902889 110918 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Japanese people make "ASCII art" using variable width fonts < 1336902901 240570 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: yeah but the right wall won't line up at all■ < 1336902909 663430 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Of course they assume everybody's running exactly the same version of Windows with the same font and rendering method) < 1336902927 450152 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But then again over there everybody is still stuck with w2k or something) < 1336902939 333710 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :this isn't exactly exactly ascii art■ < 1336902940 26474 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And using operating systems besides Windows would dishonor your entire family) < 1336902945 746509 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's more line drawing than anything■ < 1336902946 921707 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it's not ASCII art. They still call it that. < 1336902958 672659 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you misunderstood me■ < 1336902961 467425 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not even ASCII. < 1336902968 294219 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's also not art■ < 1336902969 504344 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I didn't. < 1336902975 962106 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc's boxes are merely kitsch■ < 1336902978 256605 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was talking about lining up stuff with variable width fonts < 1336902984 397864 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also these days anything can be art < 1336902986 27364 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336903007 316033 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :As long as somebody thinks it's art, it's art. < 1336903008 903963 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about the art of computer programming■ < 1336903024 161369 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :If other people have problems accepting that all they need to do is call it experimental or progressive art < 1336903027 129005 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :go program some php, make art■ < 1336903049 615644 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if it's not progressive or experimental at all■ < 1336903070 656978 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's say someone paints a really beautiful landscape, rembrandt style■ < 1336903073 585383 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is if somebody says so. < 1336903078 320984 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's touching■ < 1336903082 806120 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also wtf is with the ■ < 1336903083 841838 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1336903091 300515 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's neither progressive nor experimental■ < 1336903099 280676 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just the new FULLER stop■ < 1336903107 359927 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh < 1336903109 262544 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a FULL CHARACTER■ < 1336903116 65970 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fine < 1336903122 681391 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then I shall use the CJK full stop。 < 1336903129 88978 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :feel free < 1336903133 934683 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just got bored with my fuller stop < 1336903142 276468 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i won't be using it for the time being < 1336903171 214667 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-145-48.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay、 CJK fullーwidth full stop! < 1336903207 419689 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ꙮ < 1336903247 52371 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-145-48.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wut < 1336903304 634685 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :品 < 1336903309 625857 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :«серафими многоꙮчитїи» < 1336903321 218881 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1336903340 583936 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :💩 < 1336903342 326518 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ꙭ < 1336903364 842123 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the one you just pasted < 1336903366 604186 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't have it < 1336903367 329474 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-145-48.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: Lame. 森 < 1336903376 935278 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater_: http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/1f4a9/index.htm < 1336903392 923483 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1336903402 482285 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's probably a very good unicode coverage testing character < 1336903405 962949 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only (?) unicode character with smell lines < 1336903413 432702 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually they should have combining smell lines < 1336903422 647075 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :轟 < 1336903423 163015 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :they should, shouldn't they < 1336903435 8878 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am surprised they ignore this fact so blatantly < 1336903472 273371 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ⅯⅭⅯⅬⅩⅩⅩⅧ < 1336903491 470326 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-145-48.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: 𪚥 < 1336903520 56112 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-145-48.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/71/Zh%C3%A9.svg < 1336903539 399607 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm using Mosh so i can't copy-paste characters wich aren't recognized by my locale :/ < 1336903569 760060 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-145-48.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :龘's also fun. < 1336903571 502476 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they turn into U+FFFD 'REPLACEMENT CHARACTER' < 1336903579 18007 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :smell lines? < 1336903580 388014 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.O < 1336903638 463197 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1336903716 791777 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe han characters were invented by dragons < 1336903772 424003 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was thinking the other day about how chopsticks kinda suck compared to forks, but asian soup spoons are way better than western ones < 1336903787 988997 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want to make this into an entire bullshit pop-psych theory about east vs west < 1336903856 187498 :cheater_!~cheater@g231037111.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1336903917 584326 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :chopsticks are versatile though < 1336904051 754913 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i saw somewhere that some japanese guy adding thumb shaped stubs to forks to make them look more like hands < 1336904101 148101 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey kmc what was that haskell shell lib that allowed you to use combinators to pipe stuff around? < 1336904107 541880 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't remember < 1336904113 856359 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know which one i mean though? < 1336904128 380876 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1336904135 792442 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're so cryptic < 1336904141 683353 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1336904199 365690 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :does shqq have piping? < 1336904211 846734 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not in any special way < 1336904226 882665 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can use the normal shell pipe within the quotation < 1336904232 403955 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[sh| foo | bar |] < 1336905059 445117 :derdon!~derdon@pD9E1C1BA.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336905078 691007 :MoALTz__!~no@host-92-8-234-132.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336905250 394771 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-2-127-133.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1336905275 170527 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3966632 < 1336905290 362142 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i bet that'll at least double my karma < 1336905305 523008 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, any mention of hskell = karma < 1336905312 19495 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :really? < 1336905316 720068 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought reddit and hackernews were over haskell < 1336905324 318346 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently not < 1336905344 638380 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know /r/programming had a haskell phase but last i checked they had more of a haskell backlash < 1336905354 465923 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :however these days I avoid that place like the pits of hell < 1336905355 367515 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yea i heard they had a haskell aversion < 1336905359 385573 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hn is pretty annoying too < 1336905359 766258 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but hn is all functional < 1336905363 643429 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's written in lisp isn't it < 1336905368 58557 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the nature of the beast < 1336905369 230168 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh paul graham is not a big haskell fan < 1336905376 1827 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :paul graham is not a big * fan < 1336905385 937759 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's written in Arc actually < 1336905392 363892 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is PG's crackhead Lisp dialect < 1336905392 882232 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's arc < 1336905395 367851 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1336905400 139239 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's pg's blub isn't it < 1336905403 158225 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336905404 439634 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i remember reading about it < 1336905421 473915 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also Lisp ≠ functional, if you read _On Lisp_ you'll see that PG doesn't particularly use a functional style < 1336905437 574379 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a lot of Lispers will get really annoyed if you call Lisp a functional language < 1336905451 844884 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't take this too seriously < 1336905465 688825 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was joking and you think i'm serious < 1336905484 852617 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought it was an obvious joke, i mean "lisp is functional" come on < 1336905501 372908 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok now upvote that comment and the post it links to kmc < 1336905505 775506 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :plz < 1336905514 672117 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway HN may be written in Arc but it's full of startup weenies who think ruby and node.js coffeescript are beautiful awesome ninja hacker software < 1336905525 989312 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :at this point i'm really embarassed to be associated with "hacker" culture < 1336905529 619430 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess that makes me a bitter elitist < 1336905538 827184 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater__: i don't have a HN account < 1336905556 258451 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn you < 1336905582 598439 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, you know < 1336905583 945198 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc < 1336905586 890486 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater__ < 1336905591 862357 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :98% of everything is shit < 1336905604 932414 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, if you take the remaining 2% then 98% of that is shit < 1336905614 972673 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336905616 868953 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fractal shit < 1336905619 967804 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's shit all the way down < 1336905628 945898 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :there you go < 1336905634 315254 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i'm thinking, it applies to hackers too < 1336905638 578396 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :On Lisp is a cool book though < 1336905640 469775 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what we have to work with < 1336905655 120380 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't just hide in your shell and wait for the (shit)storm to pass < 1336905658 28845 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it will never pass < 1336905660 728086 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just the way it is < 1336905681 701081 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-2-130-117.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336905688 131847 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can ignore it's there, and avoid everything where you think there's that 98% of shit < 1336905690 235849 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but really < 1336905708 440133 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you don't see the 98% in something then you just aren't good enough at that thing to appreciate good quality < 1336905728 182164 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :example: you still haven't gotten put off on electronics < 1336905733 764193 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you keep at it, you surely will < 1336905758 571818 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i'm thinking, it's much better to display enough creativity to actually make something out of all that, you know, shit < 1336905765 66047 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :since it's 98% of the natural resource. < 1336905772 367886 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess that's the smart way to go, make something out of nothing. < 1336905784 403245 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow CNN has articles about brogrammers now < 1336905789 571505 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :do they < 1336905790 90374 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :url < 1336905794 463038 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PART :#esoteric < 1336905803 131050 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/07/tech/web/brogrammers/index.html < 1336905806 853025 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater__: i'm not put off making stuff < 1336905811 305264 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just put off "hacker culture" < 1336905822 176973 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so instead of spending my time reading HN, i make stuff < 1336905841 469755 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you've just learnt that it's crap, that's all < 1336905848 336390 :MoALTz__!~no@host-92-8-234-132.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1336905858 416999 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's not really an earth shattering realization once you realize that 98% of everything is crap < 1336905885 578614 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm almost pleased about the fact that Mosh uses such un-sexy tools < 1336905893 712584 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :C++ and Automake and fucking unix terminal subsystem < 1336905897 141467 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-126-5.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336905909 877344 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :though it really should be in a memory-safe langauge < 1336905996 424996 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :why should it < 1336906008 287329 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :why didn't you make it in python and twisted and coffeescript < 1336906013 121493 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you suck < 1336906017 203666 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're not a hacker < 1336906026 27755 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(:D) < 1336906030 291756 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-2-130-117.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1336906088 508202 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i know right < 1336906120 369984 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it uses a network protocol that isn't HTTP based < 1336906129 374464 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, i'm wondering about python's increasing notoriety as a "systems language" < 1336906134 583157 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that pretty much marks us as dinosaurs right < 1336906147 631831 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it really does feel like it's replacing the C/C++/Cobol/Perl hydra < 1336906153 419418 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in 40 years all protocols below HTTP will be forgotton < 1336906161 828566 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have already < 1336906164 960280 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume kmc is joking < 1336906165 995000 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"what's a port" < 1336906175 782274 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"what do you mean the port is not 80" < 1336906181 410870 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and we'll be reimplementing TCP and UDP poorly over HTTP < 1336906185 228516 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"how can you have a port that's not 80" < 1336906189 913772 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, exactly < 1336906197 803469 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the fucking amazing part about hackers nowadays < 1336906211 319043 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :reimplement shit on top of exactly the same shit fifty layers down < 1336906251 90239 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my friend was at a café and someone saw code on his screen and asked him what he does for a living < 1336906262 817651 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"i'm a kernel programmer, it's the very core of the operating system" < 1336906271 192930 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"oh, so, like not even the Drupal layer? even lower than that?" < 1336906276 648197 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :-_- < 1336906312 961805 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is really a sign of progress though < 1336906319 915270 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if it's unpalatable to eleet ninja hackers < 1336906355 423094 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :our abstractions are good enough that people can build worthwhile things without knowing every single irrelevant detail of the hardware and operating system < 1336906393 474184 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahahahhaha < 1336906396 632737 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Drupal Layer < 1336906396 805623 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is some fallacy that we could make all current programmers learn assembly language and CPU architecture < 1336906406 20447 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :when really a lot of people would just give up on programming then < 1336906422 409721 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Drupal Layer is the new ISO OSI Layer 0 < 1336906426 545165 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336906427 927156 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :amirite < 1336906429 284850 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1336906605 42080 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-8-224-219.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336906700 127919 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://scpd.stanford.edu/knuth/index.jsp < 1336906703 610394 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :here you go kmc < 1336906732 316802 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-126-5.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1336906880 747954 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-131-132.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336906940 218746 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-8-224-219.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1336906973 890582 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater__: http://a841-tfpweb.nyc.gov/bikeshare/files/2012/05/Schaefer-Landing.jpg < 1336906976 934262 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't you love this map < 1336907089 488216 :derdon!~derdon@pD9E1C1BA.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336907256 225798 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is that < 1336907280 670435 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think they might be using the wrong metric < 1336907322 373262 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah... < 1336907330 189068 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-131-132.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1336907331 21912 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's supposed to be how far you can bike from a given point in n minutes < 1336907335 286135 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that point is on the waterline... < 1336907364 461173 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-226-197.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336907377 45654 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also you have to bike east to the edge of their "5 min" circle just to get on the bridge to go west < 1336907477 782583 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-2-121-23.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336907624 681381 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does it matter < 1336907631 357483 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's obviously a crude representation < 1336907642 164207 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-226-197.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1336907647 792567 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you expect it to be autism-compatible < 1336907650 938256 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-84-23.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336907667 330290 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-84-23.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1336907704 654647 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Taneb < 1336907724 796918 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Taneb < 1336907736 363799 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater__: the circle maps are always crude approximations but this one is beyond ridiculous < 1336907753 23759 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it really < 1336907755 880324 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336907762 383758 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if the center of the circle were just a little bit further < 1336907765 159761 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it understates the time to bike to many points by at least a factor of 2 < 1336907765 371398 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :somewhere on land < 1336907775 659524 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :factor of 2 is not that much < 1336907784 150648 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's only one order of magnitude in binary < 1336907788 511435 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol cheater__ < 1336907801 374634 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so anyone who cares about correctness within an order of magnitude is mentally ill < 1336907814 584478 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not like you'll expect to go for a 10 minute ride and end up commuting for a whole day < 1336907820 823324 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no kmc < 1336907825 673491 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just you < 1336907830 815375 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :not anyone < 1336907831 502990 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1336907844 261115 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :;P < 1336907851 496148 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if they just had the east half of each circle that would be ok < 1336907905 654029 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but e.g. they imply you can get from Schaefer Landing to DUMBO in 10 minutes < 1336907923 49200 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :by biking across the water and the navy yard < 1336907931 921262 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am dismayed at the fact that no european universities do an OCW kind of thing < 1336907941 351930 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the intersection of that circle with the route you'd actually take is less than halfway < 1336907979 10833 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are you obsessing over this < 1336907986 92541 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :to annoy you cheater__ < 1336907992 333572 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you been watching some sort of commuter-version of requiem for a dream < 1336908005 997327 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't annoy me < 1336908009 845920 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just makes me wonder < 1336908028 318914 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1336908043 462543 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :better tell me if you know of any european unis that have online courses available < 1336908046 84839 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :free ones < 1336908152 350531 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know of any < 1336908179 833113 :swilde!~wilde@2001:470:9c7c:abc:847d:d7ff:fe83:e9fc JOIN :#esoteric < 1336908223 975441 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :your language says a lot cheater__ < 1336908234 639152 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you assume i bring up this map because i am "obsessing" < 1336908242 128685 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :when it is just a momentary diversion < 1336908245 804129 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that says more about u than about me < 1336908383 607930 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FOS: cheater__ ? < 1336908391 156703 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: FOS? < 1336908398 575226 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, I'm a bit Mafia obsessed lately < 1336908406 61857 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finger of Suspicion < 1336908418 969621 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-84-23.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm awful at mafia < 1336908422 290473 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1336908440 918123 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, you're officially better than the people in #wolfgame < 1336908449 707307 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-84-23.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater__, he thinks you are one of the people who kill a townsperson at night-time < 1336908487 719955 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I, as a townie, was once lynched at lylo for checking stats at daybreak < 1336908495 996589 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-84-23.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!!! < 1336908617 740136 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: oh < 1336908678 169808 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, pop-quiz: Should the town, during the day, if there's nothing in particular to talk about: < 1336908691 843738 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a) Talk, in an attempt to root out mafia, or < 1336908694 171328 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b) Not talk. < 1336908699 658291 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-84-23.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd go for a < 1336908710 776944 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you're smarter than #wolfgame, good job < 1336908725 586880 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-84-23.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, I suck at talking, and when I do talk, everyone thinks I'm mafioso < 1336908733 90240 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1336908870 600344 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :man < 1336908880 354267 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the german universities really suck at online courses < 1336908891 863 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's the british Open University that does it < 1336908893 261708 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ParisTech < 1336908904 967304 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :then the next nearest thing to europe is in australia, or something. < 1336908920 207313 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you even get a japanese uni. < 1336908963 808804 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-84-23.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Japan's closer to Europe than Australia? < 1336908971 617622 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-84-23.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless you mean culturally? < 1336908980 657112 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-84-23.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or linguistically, I guess < 1336909003 521202 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i mean as in "the closest thing to europe other than europe or usa" < 1336909013 67129 :MoALTz__!~no@host-92-2-117-34.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336909017 134749 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :just trying to display how far behind europe is in that regard < 1336909046 523272 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-84-23.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, close as in close in the rankings < 1336909074 1428 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336909076 761408 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :geographically < 1336909146 55827 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey have you seen this https://gist.github.com/701213 < 1336909153 324795 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"lessons learned from #python" < 1336909202 38184 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-2-121-23.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1336909275 886569 :swilde!~wilde@2001:470:9c7c:abc:847d:d7ff:fe83:e9fc PART #esoteric :"ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)" < 1336909526 855544 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-84-23.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How does GPL apply to a file format? < 1336909709 788246 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :gpl is a copyright based license < 1336909719 913679 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :a format is not data, it is metadata < 1336909728 102786 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can only copyright data, not metadata < 1336909756 146554 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it also means that you can change the format and you're still under the same copyright < 1336909769 659647 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why mp3 files are copyrighted because people have copyright over the source cds < 1336909841 954145 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-84-23.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, I'm free to write a program that saves to a format, the specifications of which are in the form of an XML DTD which explicitly mentions that it is licensed under GPL, and release my program under any license I like? < 1336909938 15484 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-84-23.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, nevermind < 1336910327 742471 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater__: interesting < 1336910334 126978 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in my short time in #python i noticed these problems too < 1336910339 163476 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone has < 1336910345 205773 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :those trolls are legendary < 1336910351 714402 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :getting banned from #python = badge of honor < 1336910441 454046 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey kmc, EvilTerran on Hackernews says "ShQQ looks very nice" < 1336910445 109998 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought it would be pertinent < 1336910449 326479 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1336910466 448160 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll livestream all comments to your ephemeral consciousness < 1336910473 529151 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :livetweeting to your cortex < 1336910495 236539 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :git pushing into your noggin with --force < 1336910500 860834 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1336910550 530429 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :reallyUnsafe < 1336910591 37063 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Use the --force-luke. < 1336910607 714623 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :git push --force ssh://localhost/dev/brain < 1336910618 9369 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336910632 868599 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :this user's host has closed the connection < 1336910683 956604 :MoALTz__!~no@host-92-2-117-34.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1336910687 334402 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it's better to use ``git push --force file:///dev/brain'' < 1336910909 237087 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just /dev/brain < 1336910914 77241 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i often use "git push ." < 1336911260 558298 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-84-23.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1336911326 990357 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3b/Gato_enervado_pola_presencia_dun_can.jpg < 1336911570 922115 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you use git push . ? < 1336911852 181501 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :to update a ref in the local repository < 1336912030 222469 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :excuse me sir but what does that do < 1336912181 898752 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes i want to change which commit a particular branch points to < 1336912188 212914 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :without checking out that branch < 1336912197 89225 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :git push . is a fine way to do it < 1336912211 258144 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are other ways < 1336912211 774488 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd use git branch -f for that < 1336912244 734739 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1336912282 11280 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that probably handles the case where the ref doesn't exist better < 1336912445 703311 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow the chinese OCW doesn't even have a fuckin domain < 1336912451 556951 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just an ip address < 1336912455 519581 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the port is 8080 < 1336912456 828956 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1336912497 429230 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1336912501 226420 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1336912522 284126 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :OCW? < 1336912558 916693 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :open course ware < 1336912579 128112 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-84-23.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336912814 213822 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-84-23.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello! < 1336912822 260290 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Taneb < 1336912935 745153 :augur!~augur@206.196.187.122 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336913135 953280 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi kmc < 1336913140 743405 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi cheater__ < 1336913144 577475 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's up < 1336913164 346025 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not a lot < 1336913223 863584 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am just currently being mindblown by the fact that the first digit of my weight in kilograms in decimal at sea level earth gravitation is about to drop by 1 < 1336913261 875456 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1336913387 306556 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater__: do you mean your mass in kilograms or you weight in newtons? < 1336913418 965021 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: in before cheater__ accuses you of having an autism spectrum disorder < 1336913505 299498 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: good catch, i keep forgetting that weight is a force < 1336913518 497041 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: dude stop it with your autism < 1336913524 437482 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(:D) < 1336913580 482293 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i'm browsing this blog with online video lectures and i notice a lecture by Spolsky < 1336913582 550729 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i think < 1336913584 558062 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: why would he think I have autims spectrum disorder < 1336913588 55309 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :who the fuck let that guy teach at a university < 1336913594 11078 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :really frightening moment < 1336913599 649619 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i look again and it's like.. Saplosky < 1336913600 208704 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :some other spolsky i hope < 1336913603 578566 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok good lol < 1336913606 233935 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1336913609 760035 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: only autists know about the difference between mass and weight < 1336913618 174124 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or any other matter of correctness < 1336913629 594429 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: autist. < 1336913641 579585 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :autofellatio < 1336913646 66122 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :autoautist < 1336913650 425298 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :autistfellatio? < 1336913663 896845 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want to know < 1336913714 699278 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater__: i streamlined my blogpost writing workflow by using inotifywait to run pandoc when i save the markdown file < 1336913719 890392 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a lifehack for sure < 1336913838 290082 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: pandoc gives you html yes? < 1336913843 472103 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336913853 136171 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can output many formats, but i'm doing markdown → html < 1336913866 985737 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i'm thinking i should set up a build system for my blog, so that i can jump ship from posterous any time < 1336913883 995636 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i can set up a blog and have all the posts up in just one command, that's gotta be worth something < 1336913891 934443 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336913896 288231 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mine isn't quite that slick < 1336913913 629493 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might be cool to use jekyll or hakyll or something < 1336913932 454371 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just mean, something that uploads to posterous in one go < 1336913939 778004 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and when the time comes, have it upload to some other thing < 1336913947 91540 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :like blogspot or whatever < 1336913949 536036 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :blogstain < 1336914082 215292 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336914095 382760 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :with those progs i mentioned, you get just a static file tree < 1336914097 966487 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can use any web host < 1336914342 718591 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please give me Coke. http://youtu.be/VuAXoSnp14M?t=13m36s < 1336914389 734437 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i don't want to use a web host because web hosts are not free < 1336914448 971357 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Quit: MSN: Patashu@hotmail.com , Gmail: Patashu0@gmail.com , AIM: Patashu0 , YIM: patashu2 , Skype: patashu0 . < 1336914506 159214 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: hilarious A+++++++ would watch again < 1336914836 537113 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay. LAME says that encoding will take aproximately 23 hours and 10 minutes -.-' < 1336914850 667207 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The encoding of what? < 1336914893 219441 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: sound file from wav to mp3 < 1336914903 287552 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The encoding of what sound file? < 1336914966 470765 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: audio of brain scratch comms Q&A video ripped to 2.3GB wav file < 1336914991 807082 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION googles < 1336914996 87072 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. now it is only 23 hours < 1336915041 366224 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is it a 2.3 gb wav file? < 1336915049 705668 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, that's way too much. < 1336915061 173601 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and, you're probably better off transcoding speech to flac < 1336915069 259662 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :because mp3 really mutilates it and makes it SUPER annoying < 1336915174 598431 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater__: video is 3 hours and 55 minutes long. I ripped the audio with ffmpeg using ffmpeg -i bscqa.mp3 bscqa.wav < 1336915391 649865 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. < 1336915391 997396 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow. I got response from European Parliament to my question about law making possession of hacking tools illegal < 1336915400 359415 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :23 hours is way too much. < 1336915403 50800 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :such as gcc? < 1336915405 448394 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: what did they say? < 1336915418 189545 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: another reason to use clang amirite < 1336915425 437434 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater__: they can't say what is hacking tool < 1336915454 34273 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater__: remember I am using computer with 700MHz Pentium III < 1336915480 711215 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still sounds too long. < 1336915506 784078 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :function < 1336915522 685200 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: oh, so you don't have sse. you've really fucked yourself over there < 1336915532 60422 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are you using such an antique piece of technology? < 1336915532 570697 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: now it says 22h 30min < 1336915543 499199 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater__: by iBook G4 broke < 1336915551 153061 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/by/my < 1336915553 560617 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :My 66 MHz Amiga can’t encode MP3 in realtime, but most things faster than that should be able to do that. :-P < 1336915553 926313 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :+/ < 1336915561 254018 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :g4 is still antique < 1336915598 733197 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater__: is is not < 1336915637 186284 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater__: it isn't even 10 years old < 1336915647 581862 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-136-148.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336915650 474161 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: if the source is mp3, why are you encoding anything at all? < 1336915658 977120 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: source is wav < 1336915690 980107 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see a very big sexist bias in this list http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oldest_people#Ten_verified_oldest_people_living < 1336915709 772298 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: "I ripped the audio with ffmpeg using ffmpeg -i bscqa.mp3 bscqa.wav"? < 1336915722 95224 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: I mean bcsqa.mp4 < 1336915797 871685 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: I used youtube-dl to download bscqa.mp4, ffmpeg to rip it's audio and lame to convert audio to something that is not completely ridicilous in size < 1336915798 3102 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@222.122.156.78 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1336915814 99380 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@222.122.156.78 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336915817 725394 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti < 1336915821 879345 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the original url of that thing < 1336915829 650273 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :what codec is the original audio track? that's probably something fairly standard < 1336915847 537887 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :mp4 is often aac isn't it < 1336915863 228033 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :bscqa.mp4 almost certainly contains compressed audio, why not just extract it and use it as-is? < 1336915883 769404 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: I don't know ho to do that < 1336915918 431459 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can do something like mplayer -dumpaudio < 1336915943 134713 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah recompressing is usually a bad idea anyways < 1336915951 129005 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: so why are you exporting the audio again? < 1336916032 673430 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater__: I download bscqa.mp4, rip audio from it to bscqa.wav and encode bscqa.wav to mp3. I don't see where I am exporting the audio again < 1336916065 455195 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"again" is a matter of speech < 1336916073 342422 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :tell me why you are exporting the audio < 1336916078 163789 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.mediafire.com/?d94ngt9iuqmd4sd < 1336916199 121300 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: what is that? < 1336916257 138140 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(mediafire requires javascript so I don't know what is behind that link) < 1336916337 404599 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :“BrainScratchComms Q&A Responses!.mp3” < 1336916349 86170 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater__: I am exporting audio because their .mp3 file is hosted on megaupload < 1336916364 521122 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: well I can't download it < 1336916398 899445 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your Pentium III can’t run a browser that supports JavaScript? < 1336916432 789825 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: it can but hv3 crashes when trying to parse the mess on that page < 1336916452 87124 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then try another one. < 1336916454 277777 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336916496 961825 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: hv3 is the only one running at speed that is acceptable < 1336916522 505693 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: well it and links2 with -enable-javascript but that is a joke < 1336916544 685477 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :*that thing < 1336916604 158052 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :try uh < 1336916604 848618 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :dropbox? < 1336916634 795973 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: http://www.jerkcity.com/_jerkcity4536.html < 1336916645 871110 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :^best argumentation strategy < 1336916650 388691 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater__: how do I download file from mediafire using dropbox? < 1336916672 112531 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: that was for ion really < 1336916679 528941 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you download from dropbox using dropbox? < 1336916715 740040 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater__: yes. I had to install Xvesa for it to work though < 1336916730 296605 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/I had/I'd have/ < 1336916780 75464 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater__: oh you meant from dl.dropbox.com? yes I can even with links < 1336916825 944344 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336916833 288585 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion try uploading to dropbox if u want to < 1336916954 278194 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1336917209 568954 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-8-225-62.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336917391 380961 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-136-148.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1336917488 226072 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Sensors detect no signs of life." *beam down* *surrounded by trees* < 1336917515 377697 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :which one was that < 1336917522 568926 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can vaguely recollect < 1336917608 570359 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc do you know of rexcurry.net < 1336917925 795441 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater: I don’t have the file. < 1336917956 867275 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: oh i thought you uploaded it for him < 1336917962 218378 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyways i gotta go to the gym, ttyl < 1336917967 423244 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah, it was just linked from the video comments. < 1336918214 46469 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting. LAME stopped at 20 hours and 6 minutes < 1336918697 169153 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't get your hopes up < 1336918716 190456 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so apparently, my gmail has 455 filters < 1336918730 65379 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :around 450 of those filters are to folderize recruiter spam < 1336918751 924671 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank DOG for the ability to export and import filters in gfail < 1336918913 556499 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so sassy < 1336918916 319617 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gfail < 1336918928 833134 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :micro$haft winbloze < 1336918944 259407 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :facecock < 1336919076 655142 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :HAHAHAHA < 1336919123 130802 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i agree with olsner that you should dump the encoded audio out of the mp4 file < 1336919128 510569 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you need mp3 specifically < 1336919204 629935 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: yeah. I remeber that next time when I have to do that < 1336919324 783734 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: lame finished encoding when it said it still had over 20 hours left < 1336919333 269599 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :km¢ < 1336919364 381806 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the cent sign is representative of the described object's perceived value < 1336919367 244707 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-8-225-62.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1336919391 283334 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: oh it finished? ok < 1336919409 353813 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: i thought you meant it just stopped predicting at 20 hours, and continued to predict it'll take another 20 hours. < 1336919429 3653 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :₭₥₵ < 1336919462 795324 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :\zalgo{kmc} < 1336919475 526175 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha someone should really make a zalgo function for LaTeX < 1336919476 547383 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has someone actually implemented \zalgo{}? < 1336919479 826900 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1336919486 533438 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wish they would < 1336919491 864896 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be the ultimate thing ever < 1336919510 437238 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :relevant: http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/29402/how-do-i-make-my-document-look-like-it-was-written-by-a-cthulhu-worshipping-madm < 1336919523 357670 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION chuckles < 1336919567 518544 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Googling "crazy latex" did not return what I expected." < 1336919589 792020 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"scrawled by a gibbering madman, unhinged by the horrors he has witnessed" < 1336919783 333331 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like ShQQ < 1336919893 824419 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1336920009 160241 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :snap < 1336920037 791643 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :got u there didn't i < 1336920040 770758 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1336920162 200105 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are the horrors i have witnessed < 1336920304 14096 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336920578 749072 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :#php < 1336920608 808767 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1336920636 229391 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've never been to #php < 1336920658 642564 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336921708 695565 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1336921761 893317 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336922262 187807 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-99-182.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336922798 281388 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-99-182.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1336923696 824930 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-84-23.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ping < 1336923696 957394 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1336923725 999560 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-84-23.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1336923741 989604 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-84-23.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336925172 705017 :Slereah_!x@ANantes-259-1-226-166.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1336925212 865113 :Slereah!~jackal@ANantes-259-1-226-166.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1336925370 501076 :kvsolga!5c190a73@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.25.10.115 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336925419 503315 :xander_!569caffc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.156.175.252 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336925445 573121 :xander_!569caffc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.156.175.252 NICK :Guest7797 < 1336925453 997249 :Guest7797!569caffc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.156.175.252 QUIT :Client Quit < 1336925475 144707 :kvsolga!5c190a73@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.25.10.115 QUIT :Client Quit < 1336926325 550428 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336926561 148497 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336926674 428528 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PART :#esoteric < 1336928648 984144 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: lies, one time i told you to go there because funny shit was going down < 1336928652 431443 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you joined in < 1336928806 272416 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-84-23.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello! < 1336929007 343308 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336929075 975194 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did i < 1336929080 502977 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what funny shit went down < 1336929418 894223 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: postun < 1336929790 564317 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no idea < 1336929890 772459 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of funny shit going down < 1336929911 946787 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :guy in ##electronics joins in, asks if we know how to scan rfid in credit cards and personal id's < 1336929926 817239 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :asked why he needs this, he says there's some guy stealing from him periodically < 1336929950 235694 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, he leaves behind expensive stuff (in the city at that, not suburbia) standing around in front of the garage or in the car < 1336929956 384683 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's lost thousands of dollars < 1336929959 665080 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :installed some cameras < 1336929973 365749 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but he can't get an ID because it's usually dark at night < 1336929990 90322 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so he figures, he saw some guys at defcon scan credit cards at a distance < 1336930001 391482 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and he figures the thief must have a credit card on him < 1336930006 421147 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so now he's trying to figure out how to do it < 1336930011 684421 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :first world problem < 1336930023 748860 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :low tech solution: don't leave your shit for people to steal < 1336930066 411726 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: tip for nuggets, a drop of green tabasco and a dash of lime juice is all they need to taste better < 1336930349 682888 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1336930351 927432 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tabasco is great < 1336930376 133360 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't use it too often < 1336930387 924562 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i use it all the damn time < 1336930393 173043 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's good used every now and then in moderation < 1336930398 385501 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :is your mouth like a kiln < 1336930400 156365 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc < 1336930406 766876 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :is your tongue all lacerated < 1336930416 988656 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like spicy food and i like vinegar taste < 1336930506 486081 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you like woucester sauce < 1336930512 432371 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It’s a bit too vinegary for my taste. < 1336930516 206520 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think so, but i don't have it often enough to say for sure < 1336930518 196260 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tabasco, that is. < 1336930519 653963 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :tabasco or WS < 1336930531 286422 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :vinegar, tabasco, and sriracha are some of my favorite seasonings < 1336930537 845545 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: how do you pronounce it, wor-chest-er or wooster? < 1336930564 256622 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I’d like to taste sriracha, but i haven’t found any yet. < 1336930567 901997 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one i know is named Worcestershire sauce < 1336930571 706732 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336930574 796793 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and pronounce wus-ter-sher < 1336930581 460681 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fucking brits am i rite < 1336930586 147235 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i keep on arguing with people here < 1336930592 566787 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :who all pronounce it incorrectly < 1336930598 150801 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they look at me like i'm fucking stupid < 1336930701 958991 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's a stupid pronunciation even if it's "correct" < 1336930978 412761 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :wfm < 1336931011 546277 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically i think people should know what's "correct" but should feel free to ignore it for sanity or consistency < 1336931022 706107 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess you can't appreciate real historical value living in a country halfway predated by the house i live in < 1336931030 300813 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1336931062 494411 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :;P < 1336931222 941556 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean the american history is so recent i'm surprised it hasn't been televised from the very beginning < 1336931243 150030 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1336931276 399312 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the flip side is that our history is way more important and everything else is irrelevant < 1336931287 739646 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact glorious leader george w. bush has brought about the end of history < 1336931308 392460 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1336931314 144543 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, kmc < 1336931316 779498 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the revolution < 1336931318 851153 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :will not < 1336931321 851006 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :be televised < 1336931338 637285 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shit i wasn't wrong < 1336931339 680546 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it will be livetumblr'd < 1336931351 515739 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :my house actually IS about 50% the age of your country < 1336931362 479589 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :usa is what < 1336931370 813056 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :223 years old? < 1336931395 292766 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :229 years old < 1336931403 949533 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :my house is 113 years old < 1336931408 439730 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :nearly there < 1336931420 571981 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 more years < 1336931430 798125 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha fuckin' a. < 1336931433 771642 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a little older than that depending on how you count < 1336931465 417936 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah like 238 years max < 1336931481 746247 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :we count starting the time other people stopped calling your ramshacks a colony < 1336931493 156993 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :;D < 1336931565 336730 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Remember back when Wireshark was called Ethereal? < 1336931575 768295 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wanted to install it in Ubuntu but I was having problems. < 1336931579 65437 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :those were the days, shachaf < 1336931590 872294 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I searched for «ethereal universe». < 1336931592 777499 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :good ol' ethereal. < 1336931601 291136 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-99-182.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336931681 196477 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey kmc you know what's really hot < 1336931687 302633 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :olive oil with pepper in it < 1336931691 857340 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds p. good < 1336931702 78723 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :T KMC WHAT < 1336931745 605359 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you ever tried any of that stuff < 1336931757 667614 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's really nice and hot < 1336931770 737587 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't feel the heat until you're done chewing and it goes down your throat < 1336931842 112831 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336931848 162328 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336932040 162332 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1336932091 457837 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Client Quit < 1336932183 504707 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336932322 724112 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-99-182.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1336932585 442209 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1336932604 629572 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1336932821 617924 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-84-23.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Quit: dinner < 1336932954 245816 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc do you like asian food http://www.nlm.nih.gov/hmd/chineseposters/images/1200/DSC_4023.jpg < 1336933005 437588 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1336933032 615330 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm having trouble decoding this one < 1336933052 4249 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the first one says that if I don't wash my hands after taking a shit, I will get sick < 1336933086 123857 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also ways of killing flies < 1336933587 17504 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you know chinese < 1336933598 641861 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :here's some chinese porn for you http://www.nlm.nih.gov/hmd/chineseposters/images/1200/DSC_4053.jpg < 1336933706 295233 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know chinese < 1336933710 276436 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sucks < 1336933723 200877 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :why < 1336933763 839256 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sucks to have diarrhea and vomitosis at the same time < 1336933766 954918 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok guess what this one is http://www.nlm.nih.gov/hmd/chineseposters/images/1200/DSC_4082.jpg < 1336933777 488850 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aids? < 1336933780 425449 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336933782 884649 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :near < 1336933788 281849 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :herpes? < 1336933817 201755 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol, no. < 1336933823 418917 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was thinking edit distance. < 1336933823 767979 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :swine flu < 1336933827 398485 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :declaration of war on SARS < 1336933828 487205 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sars? < 1336933829 352433 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1336933831 103659 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :sars ~ aids < 1336933839 318370 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ur so clever kmc < 1336933844 555911 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah the grumpy little fellows are < 1336933845 250042 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SARS_coronavirus < 1336933847 584822 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you almost guessed quicker than i told you < 1336933863 93923 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does anyone happen to know of any good papers about techniques for prevention of distributed denial of service attacks? < 1336933878 956842 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336933895 536545 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :because mostly it's a big business that people don't share their techniques in < 1336933913 392632 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :surely, there must be some papers? < 1336933916 199317 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: lol @ "grumpy little fellows" < 1336933948 876714 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: meh < 1336934030 423354 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater__: have you read http://www.vice.com/read/life-is-a-cosmic-giggle-803-v18n5 < 1336934040 473930 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: http://www.nlm.nih.gov/hmd/chineseposters/images/1200/DSC_4057.jpg < 1336934058 336644 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :more http://www.nlm.nih.gov/hmd/chineseposters/index.html < 1336934078 797456 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc is that the one about the junkie girl < 1336934092 55992 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did i know what you'd post < 1336934094 819074 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, kmc. < 1336934124 883102 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :have a look at that jpg i just posted, but not before you drop some acid and put on your stoner goggles < 1336934167 987714 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no thx < 1336934215 603630 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :As your attorney, I advise you to rent a very fast car with no top. And you'll need the cocaine. Tape recorder for special music. Acapulco shirts. < 1336934396 421677 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1336934813 487330 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336934878 752725 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: r u unhappy b/cuz i stereotyped u < 1336934884 378645 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1336934886 897159 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not unhappy < 1336934904 918977 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I read that article! < 1336934947 528785 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool shachaf < 1336934971 854108 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was mostly when you posted it in the other channel a few minutes ago. < 1336934979 128037 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1336935002 346886 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think you posted it like last year < 1336935003 394319 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :or so < 1336935097 819658 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+ago < 1336935306 343113 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-99-182.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336935388 516912 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :man, the renamer script for vim is a lifesaver < 1336935417 983332 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :== kmc in the other channel. < 1336935426 6730 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I typically try not to get involved in this argument. < 1336935543 485371 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 TOPIC #esoteric :SPOILER ALERT: You die in the end | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric < 1336935567 32325 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU HAVE NO PROOF OF THAT < 1336935603 31577 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I peeked at the end of the book and I'm still alive. < 1336935704 191690 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-84-23.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336935706 566583 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-84-23.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello! < 1336935766 814623 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haneb < 1336936282 490999 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: No, you looked at the wrong page. The correct book is the one with poison on the end, therefore it will kill you too < 1336936628 48169 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-57411977-1/the-black-hole-los-alamos-lab-surplus-store-surprises/ < 1336936720 103027 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :experienced this so often: http://www.jerkcity.com/_jerkcity4528.html < 1336936810 267425 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1336937188 527853 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.jerkcity.com/_jerkcity4513.html < 1336937337 29450 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 QUIT :Quit: You forgot!!!! Oops try again please < 1336938381 697814 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-27-107.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1336938664 433977 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-137.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336938670 617232 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-145-48.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1336938807 281664 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-75-242.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336938927 665971 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-84-23.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1336939846 724867 :jix_!~jix@jixco.de QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1336940058 679202 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although left-handed people make up only 10 percent of the population as a whole, they compose a full 20 percent of schizophrenics. Is it because all those right-handed can openers slowly drive them mad? Possibly. " < 1336940252 602128 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-64-49.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336940287 978232 :jix!~jix@jixco.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1336940293 91124 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-75-242.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1336940550 650964 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-64-49.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1336940636 705882 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"That's right: Ovoviviparous sharks eat each other in the womb. Particularly nurse sharks, which just proves that science loves irony." < 1336940772 545319 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-231-107.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336940777 749666 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-137.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1336941278 285980 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1336941720 511090 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1336942709 493500 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hard computing problem: is it possible to have a computable program that 1) computes any non-halting program given as input and 2) assuming that the program's internal state at time t is P(t), eventually computes P(t) by simulation of itself for all t? < 1336942811 556723 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's say that it must eventually output a complete summary of all the actions it did at any given step in its self-simulation, while also producing whatever output the input program would produce. < 1336942828 97664 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be like using gdb to debug gdb < 1336942858 806895 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :where the underlying gdb was always being used for the same purpose < 1336943093 990906 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no idea but sounds fun < 1336943579 600390 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24.52.224.101 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336943898 806644 :derdon!~derdon@pD9E1C1BA.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336944004 560859 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24.52.224.101 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1336944055 879014 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :very lulzy trailer http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=fvwp&v=ZJkd5X2aG34&NR=1 < 1336944099 517665 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-231-107.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1336944100 403191 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-136-158.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336944306 128572 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336944780 527960 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: < 1336944789 856363 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :16:58 < quintopia> hard computing problem: is it possible to have a computable program that 1) computes any non-halting program given as input and 2) assuming that the program's internal state at time t is P(t), eventually computes P(t) by simulation of itself for all t? < 1336944794 860491 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:00 < quintopia> Let's say that it must eventually output a complete summary of all the actions it did at any given step in its self-simulation, while also producing whatever output the input program would produce. < 1336944799 859963 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:00 < quintopia> it would be like using gdb to debug gdb < 1336944803 860853 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:00 < quintopia> where the underlying gdb was always being used for the same purpose < 1336944848 568453 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, hmm, don't want to think about that right now :) < 1336945669 996425 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1336945746 106943 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1336946219 274775 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: AndroIRC - Android IRC Client Sucks @$$( http://www.androirc.com ) < 1336946252 858305 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg < 1336946259 198130 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc's first name is keegan??? < 1336946441 13485 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1336947172 256383 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/sX0i5.gif < 1336947365 777411 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336947480 62595 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1336947524 293739 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523 < 1336947588 822658 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1336947612 660380 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: amazing < 1336947634 817278 :cheater__!~cheater@g229022221.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: welcome to 1990 < 1336947770 866099 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1336947929 679885 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336948031 5917 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1336948036 155293 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1336948056 298551 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1336949014 741624 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1336950130 739594 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok thats funny < 1336950169 437861 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly burn scars for life.. but funny < 1336950425 19069 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1336950652 753206 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-136-158.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: ? < 1336950669 515544 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ ion's link < 1336950697 746507 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-136-158.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. :) < 1336950985 164928 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The helmet... it does nothing! < 1336951102 141097 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1336952029 498427 :derdon!~derdon@pD9E1C1BA.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1336952142 297356 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=r84d-msuyp0#t=32s < 1336952208 114449 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone should record that youtube video from their screen using a phone camera and upload that to youtube. < 1336952259 857861 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry this link < 1336952265 171918 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r84d-msuyp0&t=32s < 1336952273 979236 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can ignore the first one < 1336952290 353007 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It’s the same one. < 1336952302 133855 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but i don't like the first url... < 1336952309 352949 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it didn't work right for me