< 1339286882 429988 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of truth and knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the gods." -- Albert Einstein < 1339287084 48352 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: good example < 1339287404 289975 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : AngryJoe Plays Steel Battalion Kinect http://youtu.be/VxKRBUzElTU?t=5m45s <-- hm that is old < 1339287412 94832 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I watched it last week or so? < 1339287423 42276 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I subscribe to that channel, it can be quite amusing) < 1339287470 728030 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, where was that quote from? < 1339287501 707194 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes it is funny. I'm not sure about the emo part, but other than that it is spot on < 1339287609 724558 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :comment on a site < 1339287968 83601 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1339290874 484691 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1339290878 91094 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION -> sleep < 1339290879 87524 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1339293325 409099 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1339293386 167555 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1339294903 940982 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask ais523 actually, how can you use "1" in your presentation if you're using a semigroup? they don't have an identity < 1339294904 138502 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1339294916 185721 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1339294967 245292 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Did you get the hblunmbndle? < 1339294974 60113 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1339295043 155324 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Was it good? < 1339295065 428348 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't played any of the games yet. < 1339295130 768469 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't ask if the games were good. :-( < 1339295137 208313 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(You haven't played Braid?) < 1339295259 734486 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It’s probably the greatest bundle so far. < 1339295350 261854 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: No. < 1339295350 421389 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't played *any* Bundle game. < 1339295352 5000 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yet I've bought most of them. < 1339295354 829998 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except for the crappy ones. < 1339295360 435465 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You ought to try Braid! < 1339295361 931010 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just ask kmc. < 1339295366 133856 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The Android one and some of the developer-specific ones and the Botanica one.) < 1339295382 288928 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn’t try Braid yet, but it seems interesting. < 1339295385 827197 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Right? I need some moralizing here. > 1339295667 961001 JOIN :#esoteric < 1339295669 186500 :glogbot!codu@codu.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1339295670 80747 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1339295670 463409 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@64.31.59.246 PART :#esoteric > 1339295672 71573 JOIN :#esoteric > 1339295672 586907 JOIN :#esoteric < 1339295684 159708 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@64.31.59.246 QUIT :Excess Flood < 1339295688 825873 :Zetro!~Zetro@zetro.xen.prgmr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1339295702 51366 :Gregor!codu@codu.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1339295709 167118 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1339295734 316595 :Gregor!codu@codu.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1339295808 389814 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1339295986 351938 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1339296099 183076 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1339297322 299746 :flyingcow!flyingcow@LPuteaux-156-14-100-162.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1339297342 710986 :flyingcow!flyingcow@LPuteaux-156-14-100-162.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr PART :#esoteric < 1339297540 858048 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1339299970 268394 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1339299998 230639 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi copumpkin < 1339300001 667586 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1339300256 56893 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's quote 471? < 1339300258 295698 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 471 < 1339300261 596507 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :471) tswett: last argument must be a cub scout!! have you made your money-drop today?? < 1339300268 431089 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1339300287 843469 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That may be the best quote. < 1339300470 477342 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: tomodo is fax, right? < 1339300497 522960 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've guessed that before, but I dunno < 1339300503 451635 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds a lot more depressed than fax ever did < 1339300621 836672 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who's fax? < 1339300645 136982 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: A thing that lets you send documents through the telephone. < 1339300670 326724 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@where e_10 < 1339300670 517507 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :let w(p,q)i=(p*i+1,q*i);d%(p,q)=p*d`div`q;(x:y:s)^d|d%y>d%x=s^d|0<1=mod(d%x)10:s^(10*d)in 2:scanl w(1,1)[1..]^10>>=show < 1339300672 106095 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Golf! < 1339300694 246961 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let w(p,q)i=(p*i+1,q*i);d%(p,q)=p*d`div`q;(x:y:s)^d|d%y>d%x=s^d|0<1=mod(d%x)10:s^(10*d)in 2:scanl w(1,1)[1..]^10>>=show < 1339300695 683800 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "27182818284590452353602874713526624977572470936999595749669676277240766303... < 1339300745 352824 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm tempted to implement Lenses in Clojure < 1339300763 622490 :kmc!~keegan@65.96.1.204 PRIVMSG #esoteric :has it been done? < 1339300773 89013 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good question < 1339300778 439920 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: a recurring character who shares some characteristics with tomodo, and also changes nick every so often < 1339300842 210660 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: (I think shachaf knows who fax is.) < 1339300849 363501 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't, actually. < 1339300854 578972 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know who shadowfax is < 1339300858 559325 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION sticks his tongue out at elliott  < 1339300864 921374 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who's shadowfax. :( < 1339300921 855806 :kmc!~keegan@65.96.1.204 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would suspect it's been done < 1339300934 930492 :kmc!~keegan@65.96.1.204 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which doesn't mean you shouldn't do it < 1339300942 4748 :kmc!~keegan@65.96.1.204 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that never stopped anyone from writing a lenses library in haskell, either :) < 1339300952 128128 :kmc!~keegan@65.96.1.204 PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you used Clojure much? < 1339301091 867084 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, not really < 1339301093 92505 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Want to < 1339301105 800466 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Need an example of useful Categories for #clojure < 1339301110 30558 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mentioned rotations < 1339301115 139236 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And they're not going to know what arrows are < 1339301128 828176 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I want to illustrate why comp should be general) < 1339301546 234333 :MDude!~fyrc@67.232.231.162 NICK :MSleep < 1339301723 816291 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :....I am an idiot. < 1339301776 473963 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought map was supposed to be general on the first argument. Because I am a derp. < 1339301782 823882 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I was thinking of return. < 1339301784 250644 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-221-74.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does that mean < 1339301798 886817 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1339301801 843595 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As in, map's first argument could be more than just a function < 1339301808 753954 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1339301832 642641 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map 3 ["hi","Sgeo_"] < 1339301833 855781 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [3,3] < 1339301864 147764 :kmc!~keegan@65.96.1.204 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thlambdabot < 1339301944 504022 :kmc!~keegan@65.96.1.204 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"hey here's this great interactive tool for learning Haskell! except we've filled it with useless nonstandard behavior for the sake of what amounts to an inside joke." < 1339301959 20782 :kmc!~keegan@65.96.1.204 PRIVMSG #esoteric :from the right perspective this is quite a shitty thing to do < 1339301983 447534 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Hey, we're not in #haskell here. < 1339301983 639108 :kmc!~keegan@65.96.1.204 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of the things that wore me out in #haskell was constantly having to explain these aberrations < 1339301992 577492 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cale's view has always been that it's not a pedagogical tool so it's kind of disingenuous to argue along those lines < 1339301994 959030 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :“thambdabot” < 1339301999 798327 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i still disagree but < 1339302004 308363 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(with cale) < 1339302009 575083 :kmc!~keegan@65.96.1.204 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well, ok, but then people should stop advancing it as a pedagogical tool < 1339302017 723524 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Is #haskell a pedagogical channel? < 1339302021 211578 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1339302028 667087 :kmc!~keegan@65.96.1.204 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would rather have the pedagogical tool than the toy, personally < 1339302032 162773 :kmc!~keegan@65.96.1.204 PRIVMSG #esoteric :given the current channel composition < 1339302039 11162 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you a pedagogue? < 1339302052 956077 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Peaker was saying something along similar lines. < 1339302068 585295 :kmc!~keegan@65.96.1.204 PRIVMSG #esoteric :certainly the number of confused beginners has gone up since the channel was founded < 1339302121 310085 :kmc!~keegan@65.96.1.204 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are multiple ways to solve this problem, but in the absence of consensus on a solution, the status quo sucks < 1339302143 847690 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :annoying quantum trash < 1339302163 823033 :kmc!~keegan@65.96.1.204 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was Peaker saying? < 1339302171 982792 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :peaker says lots of things!! < 1339302174 672202 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That (.) should be (.) instead of fmap. < 1339302189 892322 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because it just confuses people and makes it more annoying to explain things otherwise. < 1339302255 670009 :kmc!~keegan@65.96.1.204 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION gets bitter < 1339302257 446149 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :They should use Category.. < 1339302411 156282 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: gets? gets????? < 1339302430 598340 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :god bless you kmc but i have never seen you say a single thing about #haskell i would not classify as bitter :P < 1339302436 180167 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: As in "a regular thing". < 1339302451 875815 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc gets bitter every day at noon and stays bitter until ~04:00 the next day. < 1339302461 852588 :kmc!~keegan@65.96.1.204 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it comes and goes < 1339302469 391989 :kmc!~keegan@65.96.1.204 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you must have ignored all the nice things I said about #haskell in #haskell, then < 1339302482 703138 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's true. < 1339302490 795233 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :#haskell has a lot of nice things to say about itself. < 1339302494 936262 :kmc!~keegan@65.96.1.204 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i still have many nice things to say about it < 1339302506 949522 :kmc!~keegan@65.96.1.204 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the people are by and large friendly and well-intentioned < 1339302517 151453 :kmc!~keegan@65.96.1.204 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's still the friendliest language channel I've seen, by far < 1339302520 545498 :kmc!~keegan@65.96.1.204 PRIVMSG #esoteric :certainly for being that huge < 1339302533 991240 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-221-74.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like a nice place < 1339302547 536777 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The best langauage channel is #monqys-crawl. < 1339302554 558219 :kmc!~keegan@65.96.1.204 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to some extent I think the friendliness is a problem < 1339302561 714950 :kmc!~keegan@65.96.1.204 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it certainly is a virtue even if it has some negative consequences as well < 1339302604 685748 :kmc!~keegan@65.96.1.204 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the people there are fucking smart < 1339302614 849173 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :except for the ones that aren't < 1339302615 706292 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-221-74.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :even the ones that aren't ?? < 1339302616 533765 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-221-74.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1339302619 479200 :kmc!~keegan@65.96.1.204 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and everyone really seems to like learning < 1339302624 452784 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and who are indistinguishable to most people < 1339302630 319968 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks like many of them cannot answer my questions though < 1339302637 220745 :kmc!~keegan@65.96.1.204 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shrug, i never got a feeling from one of the regulars that "this person is an idiot and needs to stfu" < 1339302641 887976 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-221-74.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: at leat they're friendly about it ! < 1339302642 79180 :kmc!~keegan@65.96.1.204 PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course maybe this means I was the dumbest regular < 1339302644 384740 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means you have to come up with new and exciting ways to say "you're incompetent; stop misleading the newbies" < 1339302644 907999 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-221-74.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: or so I hear < 1339302648 335781 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :without actually saying it < 1339302653 532200 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: well, they don't have to be regular. < 1339302667 831429 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: (I do get such a feeling from one or two. but I think they only became regular as you left.) < 1339302668 808676 :kmc!~keegan@65.96.1.204 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: people have explanations i disagree with, and can argue against, but I wouldn't go so far as to insult their intelligence < 1339302680 743668 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :by "incompetent" I mean strictly in the context of their advice < 1339302689 409102 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yes, it's impolite, that's why you don't say it :P < 1339302716 405063 :kmc!~keegan@65.96.1.204 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and by "regulars" i'm of course ignoring a few perennial helpless beginners) < 1339302726 368854 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, well that's cheating < 1339302736 865842 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: have i linked you to the Monad page on haskellwiki < 1339302741 753274 :kmc!~keegan@65.96.1.204 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1339302746 113449 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the best < 1339302750 901070 :kmc!~keegan@65.96.1.204 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1339302752 396222 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I like how right as copumpkin gets dragged back the channel goes into full on meta-Haskell mode.) < 1339302772 528411 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Did you know the author of the awful parts of that page once downvoted me on Stack Overflow? < 1339302786 515111 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some people, I tell ya. < 1339302810 818274 :kmc!~keegan@65.96.1.204 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dragged back? < 1339302815 639499 :kmc!~keegan@65.96.1.204 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is copumpkin punting #haskell as well? < 1339302826 154640 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf conspicuously said HEY COPUMPKIN DID YOU LEFT #ESOTERIC in -blah. < 1339302837 411416 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really pay much attention to #haskell these days < 1339302840 346412 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and copumpkin was all OH HA HA I HATE YOU GUYS SO MUCH UURGH BUT I'LL PRETEND I JUST FORGOT < 1339302841 115199 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I haven't actively left it < 1339302841 703832 :kmc!~keegan@65.96.1.204 PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone knows #esoteric is the real #haskell-blah < 1339302843 324307 :kmc!~keegan@65.96.1.204 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1339302856 238880 :kmc!~keegan@65.96.1.204 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you must have better self control than me < 1339302915 437419 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not know if mathematicians normally call the Finalize moand and the Initialize comonad something different, so I just called them by these names. < 1339302936 479607 :kmc!~keegan@65.96.1.204 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if mathematicians call them something different, it's probably something dumb < 1339302955 729207 :kmc!~keegan@65.96.1.204 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh "dragged back to #esoteric" i see < 1339302962 596084 :kmc!~keegan@65.96.1.204 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's my fault we went all meta :/ < 1339302975 327106 :kmc!~keegan@65.96.1.204 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i will claim shachaf trolld me < 1339302982 927501 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Something dumb? Why do you think that? < 1339302988 430953 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: The term is "pronked". < 1339303000 782442 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: "sry 4 trollding u :'(" < 1339303004 559599 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :("hecked" also works.) < 1339303006 314787 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not even know how commonly mathematicians would deal with these monad/comonad though < 1339303015 828571 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(As in "shachaf thoroughly hecked my aim there".) < 1339303054 703540 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But they are valid for any category having a final/initial object < 1339303091 344292 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Should I sleep? < 1339303108 128556 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :SHIFTING INTO CHANNEL MODE #4: elliott asking whether he should sleep at unreasonable hours < 1339303132 738020 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 22 + 38 < 1339303133 828039 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 60 < 1339303140 593346 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You must sleep before the end of this hour. < 1339303153 31074 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do you ask other people if you want to sleep? < 1339303168 415067 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: He asks other people whether he *should* sleep. < 1339303354 908226 :pikhq_!~pikhq@168-103-248-59.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The answer is usually "yes". < 1339303368 835545 :pikhq_!~pikhq@168-103-248-59.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :He also then ignores the answer, and often asks again. < 1339303386 880975 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1339303392 716975 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody has answered yet this time though < 1339303410 850035 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs monqy < 1339303442 229512 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.28315 < 1339303458 777340 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs monqy < 1339303462 242599 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: should i sleep < 1339303464 694575 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: shoudl ji seplh < 1339303466 446324 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.21703 < 1339303630 722906 :pikhq_!~pikhq@168-103-248-59.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Si, señór < 1339304053 676551 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1339304393 632953 :pikhq_!~pikhq@168-103-248-59.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1339304396 594818 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-248-59.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1339304420 731927 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"good job elliott" < 1339304564 392206 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :gelliott < 1339304911 639956 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1339304934 437384 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1339305188 386274 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1339306520 421737 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1339306704 798632 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-8-22.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1339306705 25866 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-8-22.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1339306705 25961 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1339307069 35781 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote greece < 1339307071 965350 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :778) Why does CL get called functional? it's sort of like how you call ancient greece democratic. < 1339308187 177069 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1339308204 185084 :kmc!~keegan@65.96.1.204 PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't tell the CL people that CL is functional < 1339308207 211733 :kmc!~keegan@65.96.1.204 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have that < 1339308208 528968 :kmc!~keegan@65.96.1.204 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hate* < 1339309531 15027 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What I mean by Finalize is the endofunctor mapping all objects to the final object; it should be easy to see how this is a monad. < 1339309554 143076 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is only one possibility! < 1339309939 897764 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you agree? < 1339309956 130576 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: you are very entertaining < 1339309980 699139 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Do you understand what I am meaning? < 1339310006 421187 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont even know what monads are silly < 1339310021 24279 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1339310057 366334 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know what a category is (in category theory)? < 1339310062 417574 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello! < 1339310064 816228 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Me? < 1339310079 427416 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: No, I mean quintopia, but you are free to answer if you wish < 1339310101 386750 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :no idea < 1339310111 87439 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a bunch of elements with morphisms between various elements where composing morphisms is possible, also there is an identity morphism < 1339310115 348650 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think < 1339310137 664338 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Yes, and composition is associative < 1339310211 834889 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is an identity morphism for each object, which is identity for the composition operator, and a morphism (X -> Y) and (Y -> Z) can be composed to (X -> Z) (although by standard mathematical notation, the (Y -> Z) goes on the left) < 1339310262 331636 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh feel free to use the concatenative style < 1339310393 990581 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the object X identity morphism will be from X to X where id . f = f . id = f if f has the correct object it is from/to, and . means composition. < 1339310412 910870 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any monoid forms a category with one object. < 1339310574 201672 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that good? < 1339310610 309245 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1339310650 799972 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1339311469 237243 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: Leftput/rightput error < 1339311732 85785 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235038077.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1339313741 705854 :IrcCheck!~geerhardt@197.104.164.11 JOIN :#esoteric < 1339313793 53686 :IrcCheck!~geerhardt@197.104.164.11 PART :#esoteric < 1339314602 418256 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1339315086 929897 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : borkdude: It's hard (nearly impossible) to, for example, use SLIME with both Clojure and Common Lisp. I suppose it's because you use an ancient version of SLIME with Clojure because it's impossible to follow SLIME development because they never release anything. < 1339315088 472468 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :GAH < 1339315091 594826 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION blarghs < 1339315396 641110 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's happened < 1339315561 882274 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, read the line from Raynes < 1339315579 204518 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have done, and do not realise the significance of it < 1339315599 93963 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1339315599 564508 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The significance is it's harder for me to play with both Common Lisp and Clojure < 1339315610 208580 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1339315629 444481 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1339316152 955057 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1339318412 439149 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1339319388 256625 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-8-22.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1339319388 714559 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-8-22.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1339319388 905599 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1339319575 442676 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1339319860 696974 :Taneb!0263592a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.2.99.89.42 JOIN :#esoteric < 1339319863 884482 :Taneb!0263592a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.2.99.89.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1339320695 653651 :Taneb!0263592a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.2.99.89.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot < 1339320696 191443 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: bit 4 off, and parameters associated with them. the scale selected is concert pitch, in order to change the routine < 1339320762 670068 :Taneb!0263592a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.2.99.89.42 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1339321037 456293 :kmc!~keegan@65.96.1.204 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1339321489 55673 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1339323473 245955 :derdon!~derdon@pD9E1DD60.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1339324881 166933 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1339326759 687545 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1339326863 819527 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1339326960 534150 :james-ubc!~jaamesden@d207-6-249-160.bchsia.telus.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1339326981 140856 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1339327125 584893 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi TOPIC #esoteric :forking | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1339327821 704738 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1339327901 627725 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In my new school timetable, on Fridays I alternate between two classrooms. < 1339327912 831818 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :On the second floor. < 1339327916 611284 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of two different buildings < 1339328482 871472 :Tod-Autojoined!~Tod@166-70-93-209.ip.xmission.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1339328483 69821 :TodPunk!~Tod@166-70-93-209.ip.xmission.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1339328518 396648 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1339328606 380007 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1339328646 417807 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1339329234 765375 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, PH < 1339329301 581596 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1339329434 275887 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :S5 Modal Logic is... I think it's a coapplicative, if that's a thing that makes sense to me < 1339329577 532809 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has (<*>) and extract < 1339329648 332717 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No wait, it's an applicative comonad < 1339329736 488506 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :GOODBYE < 1339329739 152872 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1339330114 385363 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow http://youtu.be/p08_KlTKP50 < 1339331432 516349 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1339331539 699058 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1339332775 688721 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I find it weird that some monads are comonad < 1339332788 955327 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I don't have a sufficient idea of catergoric dual < 1339332789 477016 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s < 1339332889 633726 :oklopol!oklopol@62-241-225-233.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT : < 1339334829 487966 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1339337171 727515 :Labbekak!d9795522@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.121.85.34 JOIN :#esoteric < 1339337202 89613 :Labbekak!d9795522@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.121.85.34 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> [(x, y)|x<-[1..3], y<-[4..6]] < 1339337203 383763 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [(1,4),(1,5),(1,6),(2,4),(2,5),(2,6),(3,4),(3,5),(3,6)] < 1339337302 17153 :Labbekak!d9795522@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.121.85.34 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[x*y|y<-[1..x]]|x <- [1..10]] < 1339337309 278780 :Labbekak!d9795522@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.121.85.34 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> [[x*y|y<-[1..x]]|x <- [1..10]] < 1339337310 733288 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [[1],[2,4],[3,6,9],[4,8,12,16],[5,10,15,20,25],[6,12,18,24,30,36],[7,14,21,... < 1339337398 857920 :Labbekak!d9795522@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.121.85.34 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> [[x*y|y<-[1..10]]|x <- [1..10]] < 1339337399 833890 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [[1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10],[2,4,6,8,10,12,14,16,18,20],[3,6,9,12,15,18,21,24,2... < 1339337414 976999 :Labbekak!d9795522@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.121.85.34 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> [[x*y|y<-[1..3]]|x <- [1..3]] < 1339337416 417700 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [[1,2,3],[2,4,6],[3,6,9]] < 1339337525 616934 :Labbekak!d9795522@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.121.85.34 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> [[x`max`y|y<-[1..3]]|x <- [1..3]] < 1339337526 788322 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [[1,2,3],[2,2,3],[3,3,3]] < 1339337544 756349 :Labbekak!d9795522@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.121.85.34 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> [[x`min`y|y<-[1..3]]|x <- [1..3]] < 1339337546 3937 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [[1,1,1],[1,2,2],[1,2,3]] < 1339337579 305823 :Labbekak!d9795522@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.121.85.34 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> [[(x`min`y) * (x`max`y)|y<-[1..3]]|x <- [1..3]] < 1339337580 460105 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [[1,2,3],[2,4,6],[3,6,9]] < 1339337643 678648 :MSleep!~fyrc@67.232.231.162 NICK :MDude < 1339337992 470278 :Labbekak!d9795522@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.121.85.34 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> [[[x*y*z|z<-[1..3]]|y<-[1..3]]|x<-[1..3]] < 1339337993 694474 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [[[1,2,3],[2,4,6],[3,6,9]],[[2,4,6],[4,8,12],[6,12,18]],[[3,6,9],[6,12,18],... < 1339338032 31289 :Labbekak!d9795522@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.121.85.34 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how to generalize that to n dimensions? < 1339339108 769205 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :write it explicitly as a monad < 1339339122 187030 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :once you have the monadic construction, then you just fold over the dimentions < 1339339505 132488 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1339340305 842050 :Labbekak!d9795522@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.121.85.34 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1339341397 713696 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-235-225.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1339341515 483333 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1339341518 310359 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1339342010 953262 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1339342017 251736 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?title=User:Julianc&curid=8485&diff=32739&oldid=32738 hmm... < 1339342017 442660 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1339342035 375498 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That warrents a warning? < 1339342259 456341 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't /do/ anything < 1339342275 139893 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?title=User:Julianc&diff=next&oldid=32739 not sure what the nowiki here is meant to accomplish :P < 1339342441 376436 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1339342445 454935 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-21-192.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1339342453 332213 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1339342619 482664 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1339342632 594569 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1339342853 501678 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1339343802 900981 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, that reddit nuclear coverup guy went full-on conspiracy nut. < 1339343809 95683 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, even more full-on conspiracy nut. < 1339343827 671846 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1339343840 872014 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bet reddit itself is in on it < 1339343877 905527 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think his current theory is that the government are somehow covering up a massive, end-of-the-world solar flare in spite of the fact that he's used public solar flare data to corroborate his claims. < 1339343895 476223 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also that the magnetic poles started switching overnight and the magnetosphere is now gone. < 1339344243 632779 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1339344285 370137 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, great. < 1339344296 21638 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm fairly sure the headphone port of this computer is broken. < 1339346391 476108 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it due to solar flares covered up by the government < 1339346886 131690 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster JOIN :#esoteric < 1339347063 967810 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1339347071 925614 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1339347075 314135 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1339347099 695574 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1339347149 712226 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi! < 1339347161 243685 :nooga!~nooga@95.108.115.18 JOIN :#esoteric < 1339347190 433253 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1339347221 299176 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@209-6-232-56.c3-0.sbo-ubr1.sbo.ma.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1339347227 166048 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@209-6-232-56.c3-0.sbo-ubr1.sbo.ma.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Changing host < 1339347227 357332 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1339347233 444463 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: :) < 1339348747 120992 :nooga!~nooga@95.108.115.18 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1339348777 178118 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does codo notation even make sense? < 1339348829 328131 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably. < 1339348847 373578 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :flip extend :: w a -> (w a -> b) -> w b < 1339348849 257667 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you'd have < 1339348858 64475 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :codo { x <- w; ... } where < 1339348861 535190 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :w :: w a < 1339348865 309237 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :x :: w a < 1339348866 832727 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :... :: b < 1339348871 957270 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay < 1339348873 510150 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then < 1339348877 393337 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :codo { x <- w; ... } :: w b < 1339348885 40612 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure how it would chain, though < 1339348890 669708 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it'd just be left-associative < 1339348894 143956 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, thanks < 1339348897 720513 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yw < 1339348901 270982 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm gonna have dinner now, bye < 1339348902 312379 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1339348918 596830 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yw < 1339349141 68684 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1339350136 607957 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, "yw"? < 1339350148 766195 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yer wiggly < 1339350165 794018 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :right.. < 1339350180 745373 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OR: yang wanker < 1339350191 113137 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OR: yuppie winks < 1339350193 584043 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OR: you're welcome < 1339350194 875220 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbiab < 1339350204 604092 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :phone < 1339350945 85257 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :back < 1339351030 823203 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: hi < 1339351036 388173 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: hi < 1339351043 730590 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: (spoiler it's actually the last one) < 1339351052 624496 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I realised that < 1339351058 605515 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(spoiler ok) < 1339351347 689559 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: You know the IPv6 2001: stuff? < 1339351350 856453 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was that assigned in 2001? < 1339351472 438773 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think all of 2001: is assigned, and the (current) RFC that describes that prefix is from 2006. < 1339351508 987048 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the possibly first one is from 2000 < 1339351517 965344 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean the 2001 IPv4 stuff. < 1339351529 186025 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just always read it as a year. :p < 1339351547 486997 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ipv4 stuff? < 1339351552 494161 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know. < 1339351553 881251 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh the teredo? < 1339351554 312154 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bridge stuff. < 1339351566 147883 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :People have IPv6 IPs that start with 2001: a lot because they don't have native IPv6. < 1339351576 373572 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yeah, I have that < 1339351622 80889 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1339351623 636058 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1339351638 58473 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: hi < 1339351675 785490 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Taneb < 1339351683 130631 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1339351877 559397 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1339351884 473203 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1339351889 175909 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric ::\ < 1339351893 822933 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1339351909 786671 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1339351921 430701 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1339351967 250485 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :>:{D> < 1339352012 853460 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :<8{B < 1339352036 520335 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :}:{D> < 1339352052 606866 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :>:~"d < 1339352061 213505 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just mashed keys randomly. Could have turned out worse. < 1339352068 204901 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::^/ < 1339352100 345423 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric ::V < 1339352112 12255 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric ::: < 1339352112 206334 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stop. < 1339352117 629065 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"L@:$ < 1339352119 555981 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :'as;lE < 1339352120 459073 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::@"£ < 1339352121 767665 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::$@{£ < 1339352122 806688 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::±_+@ < 1339352133 637999 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ºÐΩıµ®Ð < 1339352135 980554 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :+_+ looks pretty good < 1339352137 324187 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have a plus-or-minus key? < 1339352141 578056 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :∑´#†®˚©˙ƒ~ < 1339352143 502206 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :who doesnt? < 1339352152 242953 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Laptop keyboard :/ < 1339352165 96511 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, for me ± is altgr-' < 1339352165 287790 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm using a laptop. < 1339352179 519955 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :where ' is the dead key over é < 1339352186 873397 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it is next to backspace) < 1339352193 149218 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1339352199 333828 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\ < 1339352199 829476 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ERROR:Word not found < 1339352212 144759 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :}][{| < 1339352223 398885 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::µ < 1339352224 598826 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, ə… < 1339352233 805939 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@łe¶ŧ←↓↓→øþßðđŋħjĸł«»¢“”nµ··· < 1339352234 51061 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1339352238 40152 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I did that using compose, no idea if it can be done with altgr) < 1339352240 483648 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :\ < 1339352240 675438 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ERROR:Word not found < 1339352275 6244 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :>·^ < 1339352292 812672 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FOUND IT < 1339352296 897386 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :altgr + shift + 9 < 1339352299 962584 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1339352300 809815 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :¡ < 1339352304 52300 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, that gives me » < 1339352306 8080 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :øœ∑´®“´π©¬ƒ∂… < 1339352306 477901 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1339352329 612201 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, I'd assume you're not on a British keyboard < 1339352334 8526 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1339352361 791158 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :´¥¨^º– < 1339352368 527554 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, but a lot of the altgr keys have the same positional mapping though. like ← being altgr-y < 1339352376 599563 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :YEah < 1339352394 396670 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :¬@ < 1339352402 768713 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@? < 1339352413 553244 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :` < 1339352416 801679 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shift-`, shift '? < 1339352417 502803 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, not at? < 1339352423 369425 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: : not found < 1339352427 944780 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, what? < 1339352431 394396 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don`t you love it when people use the backtick as an apo`strophe? < 1339352437 195571 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Confused < 1339352443 639339 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sum < 1339352454 501357 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :¬ was altgr-shift- < 1339352464 577101 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :have* < 1339352471 843017 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :] < 1339352478 314177 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :well guess it isn't for you < 1339352481 7198 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is altgr-9 < 1339352487 925133 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :REDUNDANCY, YEAH < 1339352488 638937 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, try the key next to backspace then < 1339352502 193099 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, that altgr-9 is the only place I have ] :P < 1339352504 813061 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :{[]} altgr-(7-0) < 1339352505 4723 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ḑoesn't do anything < 1339352515 917255 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it did < 1339352519 624728 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :it combined with the D < 1339352521 744350 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ altg-2 < 1339352525 140025 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAH < 1339352526 785026 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, it is a dead char < 1339352530 523235 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever you had < 1339352542 726441 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :altgr-shift-= < 1339352549 700059 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :\ altg-+ < 1339352549 891369 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ERROR:Word not found < 1339352556 588221 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, I couldn't even do that. my = is on shift-0 < 1339352564 587979 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's ) < 1339352566 655300 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :my ) is on shift-0 < 1339352567 28228 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1339352572 455920 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :and altgr-shift-0 yields ° < 1339352576 792575 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :degree sign I think? < 1339352578 54872 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1339352579 336563 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1339352580 306061 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Same < 1339352595 125233 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :10C < 1339352602 814799 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :top row with altgr-shift: ¾¹²³¼¢⅝÷«»°¿¬ < 1339352616 11064 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :why 5/8? Who knows < 1339352618 828169 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :|¡⅛£¼⅜⅝⅞™±°¿ < 1339352631 512191 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :and top row with just altgr: ¶¡@£$€¥{[]}\± < 1339352643 661879 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :|{[]}\ < 1339352647 55164 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :#quit < 1339352647 246184 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: oonbotti < 1339352656 93806 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, that first char seems redundant there < 1339352660 615061 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1339352672 916451 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :|| < 1339352679 852301 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Especially as I've never used it? < 1339352683 100164 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: 5/8 is what comes between between 1/2 and 3/4 < 1339352695 453636 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, on UK keyboard, what is the key to the left of 1? < 1339352701 700374 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`, < 1339352704 744730 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: ,: not found < 1339352706 627405 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, hm true < 1339352712 756553 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1339352717 762573 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :§ < 1339352719 100473 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :here < 1339352723 840134 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, for me it is § and ½ if shifted < 1339352725 207870 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :With a | printed on it < 1339352740 12464 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :± if shifted < 1339352744 62427 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1339352754 936255 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :apple keyboards are weird < 1339352758 911172 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aaaah < 1339352759 871631 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mac < 1339352761 875232 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1339352763 624526 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That explains it < 1339352777 384213 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've got a Windows keyboard < 1339352777 575128 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :where is tilde on those keyboards? < 1339352780 155831 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm on a thinkpad (running linux) < 1339352782 804024 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shift-hash < 1339352787 797106 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, where is hash? < 1339352791 418435 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: to the left of z is ` (~ shifted) < 1339352791 904180 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :for me that is shift-3 < 1339352803 123609 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, is that a ` as a dead key? < 1339352805 247 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Betreen ' and return < 1339352808 917375 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: no < 1339352811 900368 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1339352814 740678 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Above right shift < 1339352819 878028 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: no use for that for UK English speakers < 1339352826 80188 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, oh right, where I have ä then < 1339352834 147803 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that's not really truw < 1339352836 359546 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*true < 1339352838 982922 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1339352841 339733 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hmm < 1339352842 567322 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, you might want to write French? Or loan words? < 1339352848 637101 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there anything with an ` accent in UK English? < 1339352853 953278 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"café"'s is the wrong way around < 1339352856 176394 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :de ja vu < 1339352859 116612 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes < 1339352867 113436 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: you can just remove all accents when writing stuff in english < 1339352867 779070 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :On the a < 1339352869 132032 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: still, that's what the alt stuff is for < 1339352871 802745 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and most people won't bother with it < 1339352873 622619 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dj vu < 1339352875 808946 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and dead keys are kind of confusing < 1339352909 235062 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I mean I have ^ as a dead key, yet I don't know any Swedish word with that. There are a /handful/ of words with é. Can't think of any with ` though. < 1339352925 745018 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : and dead keys are kind of confusing <-- not if you are used to them? < 1339352940 799375 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing's confusing if you're used to it. < 1339352942 886740 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not using accents makes pate harder to understands < 1339352947 204113 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly < 1339352956 987543 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1339352961 828446 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should just spell it patay < 1339352995 748569 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that makes its etymological relation with the word "paste" less clear! < 1339353039 836976 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :call it paste then! < 1339353046 518777 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that's something else! < 1339353048 415576 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm is it worth learning Dvorak? < 1339353053 734009 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1339353056 684705 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-21-192.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1339353059 111721 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Better to lean Dvorak than to learn Romulan! < 1339353059 769920 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :in swedish it's almost called pastay < 1339353066 896530 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(pastej) < 1339353076 922617 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-21-192.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like Elfish more than Dvorak < 1339353088 935410 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-21-192.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :but, personal opinion obviously < 1339353091 563535 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: If you want to. < 1339353095 535236 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, do you own a keyboard with Dvorak stickers? < 1339353098 929231 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, nope < 1339353099 120435 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or Colemak, if you want to be cool, like Deewiant. < 1339353117 109565 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Get one as cheap as possible for learning with < 1339353133 454083 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, how much does it actually help unless you are writing books though? < 1339353150 269322 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :When programming there is a lot more down time spent thinking about the code anyway < 1339353151 532568 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It makes keyboard shortcuts a lot more awkward < 1339353159 810881 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: You might see a minor increase in typing speed, but it probably doesn't matter much. The real reason to learn such an alternate layout is ergonomics. < 1339353178 417471 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: If you're looking at the keyboard, you're doing it wrong. < 1339353180 249538 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, hm true. How much does it help there then. < 1339353210 905026 :AnotherTest!~Test@94-224-21-192.access.telenet.be PART :#esoteric < 1339353212 439840 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Well, more stuff is on the home row and so on. Colemak's site has some statistics: http://colemak.com/wiki/index.php?title=Ergonomic < 1339353229 183622 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :surely that depends on which language you write in < 1339353261 298837 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Colemak places the 10 most common letters of English and Backspace on the home row. <-- backspace on home row? Uh, that means a rather small key next to enter then or something? < 1339353268 503768 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, Colemak is an English layout. I'm sure there is a Swedish variation. < 1339353273 990934 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I suspect the letter frequencies are comparable. < 1339353281 238404 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Caps Lock is backspace, I think. < 1339353284 146105 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least Deewiant maps it like that. < 1339353284 464912 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1339353287 637759 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, if you're learning, stickers help < 1339353290 657432 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fair enough < 1339353294 997983 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's a better use for Caps Lock than Ctrl, that's for sure.) < 1339353302 125363 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I disagree. < 1339353310 388386 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: They'll teach you how to type on a keyboard while staring at it. < 1339353311 972704 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: IIRC in Colemak both backspace and caps lock are backspace. I swapped them instead. < 1339353327 745259 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: If you already know how to touch-type in general, you shouldn't have to start from scratch with training wheels. < 1339353331 887066 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Ah. < 1339353345 952077 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: How do you pronounce "Deewiant"? < 1339353350 658460 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: "Multilingual – Allows to type in over 40 languages and to type various symbols, e.g. "pâté", "mañana", €, em-dash, non-breaking space." < 1339353356 671491 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://colemak.com/wiki/index.php?title=Multilingual#Swedish_.28Svenska.29 < 1339353373 785001 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, if you haven't learnt, you may not be able to even log in, without stickers or some sort of guide < 1339353374 751797 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Up to you whether it's like "deviant" or with a w sound instead of v. < 1339353380 233169 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: There's also this https://gist.github.com/1293692 thing. < 1339353387 309937 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, doing that altgr thingy sounds a bit painful (in the first link) < 1339353391 357991 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I guess it's (understandably) settled on the w sound. < 1339353391 999321 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: With Dvorak there's specific variants for each language. < 1339353393 556845 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Svorak or whatever. < 1339353394 707194 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are after all really common letters < 1339353400 943432 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah svorak exists < 1339353402 820549 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: It's neither for me; I meant you specifically. < 1339353408 504461 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also you have to be able to pronounce it properly. < 1339353449 390758 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I pronounce it as "dew" from "morning dew" + "iant" from "deviant". < 1339353458 474118 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: In an English context, nowadays, like "deviant" but with a w sound. < 1339353465 810730 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1339353467 887093 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mine is better. < 1339353483 777318 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mine is best. < 1339353496 248172 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's second only to my pronounciation of Sgeo_, < 1339353502 106663 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you pronounce Sgeo_,. < 1339353566 18068 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sʒiːoʊ < 1339353584 670712 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: No, with normal people methods. < 1339353585 702633 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aww, I just say ess-geo < 1339353598 159614 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I say "sssgaeoh". < 1339353607 11219 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, same < 1339353608 13987 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I did not waste all that time learning the IPA for nothing.) < 1339353617 704905 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: HOW DO YOU PRONOUNCE SGEO IN NORMAL PEOPLE LANGUAGE < 1339353621 873906 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I pronounce Phantom_Hoover "fan-tom who ver" < 1339353629 436211 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Szheeoh. < 1339353668 256612 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is my ick pronounced? < 1339353676 237492 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: THAT'S JUST WRONG. < 1339353676 485844 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/ick/nick/ < 1339353679 714465 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/caps/noncaps/ < 1339353687 417499 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: Like "naughty" except more tti. < 1339353695 341598 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I like neither coffee nor tea" < 1339353706 631486 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :weirdo < 1339353719 885293 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/84/Sgeoct.wav < 1339353725 533550 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is almost how I pronounce it < 1339353738 321253 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti, I pronounce it in Swedish with a slight Italian twist to it. < 1339353741 927173 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :(no idea why) < 1339353745 528710 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's like nearly how I pronouce it. < 1339353765 421033 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except I tend to use a u < 1339353766 35178 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_, why is that on wikimedia!? < 1339353768 249204 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sugeo < 1339353772 769838 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, not "you" < 1339353774 897893 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but "uh" < 1339353779 185470 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: I pronounce it like that, but it's "ay" rather than "ee". < 1339353779 701516 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Suh-geo < 1339353795 125773 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That one sounds kidn of like "ski-oh". :P < 1339353799 186268 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*:p WRONG TONGUE < 1339353801 821718 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, I put it there a long time ago < 1339353807 735461 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :riiight < 1339353810 733337 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net NICK :Sqeo < 1339353824 828819 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :q? < 1339353826 369134 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Squeeoh. < 1339353838 940397 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sʉ.dʒioʊ? < 1339353845 45598 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait. < 1339353847 821005 :Sqeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, the .wav sounds like it < 1339353852 778128 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :kay < 1339353852 969105 :Sqeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's saying sqeo < 1339353860 838721 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't listen to it atm. < 1339353867 759458 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who do you lot pronounce Taneb? < 1339353868 110294 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sʉ.'dʒi.oʊ < 1339353894 904489 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sqeo: No, that's definitely a "g". < 1339353913 67788 :Sqeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tahhh nehb < 1339353933 807773 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Ngevd" is more interesting to pronounce. < 1339353942 145223 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, I pronounce the Ta bit like in the Swedish word Tagg. The rest like in English. (Not that it tells you much) < 1339353951 79066 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ŋevd < 1339353957 132488 :Sqeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Sgeo < 1339353989 798519 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I recorded me saying a bunch of names but I sound like an idiot so you ca't hear it. SORRY. < 1339354004 156663 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, not used to hearing your own voice? < 1339354007 843108 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK you have no choice but to let us hear it now. < 1339354010 925532 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It sounds stupider in a computer but. < 1339354024 86633 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I sound like a total prat, which is why I never listen to my own voice.) < 1339354043 103310 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, isn't that because you are one? < 1339354051 160358 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can someone give a list of names, and at some point I'll record me saying them < 1339354064 175308 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I forgot to do Ngevd. < 1339354066 56774 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll do it again. < 1339354086 184558 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, what if I give you one with non English letters in it? < 1339354095 238588 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, brb, jumping into the sea to put out that sick burn. < 1339354097 55388 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been planning on recording my voice a lot, getting over the discomfort of hearing my voice, and use the recordings to perfect various accents I will find useful in my career as a secret agent < 1339354099 408471 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are they still Latin letters? < 1339354114 9614 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, ;P < 1339354114 201390 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK Deewiant Sgeo Taneb Ngevd Phantom_Hoover Vorpal ais523: http://ompldr.org/vZThkag/Audio%20Recording%208.m4a < 1339354138 665555 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :My voice is the worst. < 1339354150 425843 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I kind of fumbled "Vorpal" there. < 1339354155 825345 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no headphones and lose connection outside my living room < 1339354163 893879 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :vawwpal < 1339354165 81681 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, that is your voice? XD < 1339354166 418336 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Your family will love hearing your name! < 1339354168 511813 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Rude. :( < 1339354171 855863 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't worry one day the helium feed to your throat will stop working. < 1339354174 190295 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :*vawwpl < 1339354177 943644 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, no it is better than what I imagined < 1339354178 135116 :Sqeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION doesn't believe that that's elliott's voice. < 1339354179 503888 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: :'( < 1339354182 519472 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Im crey < 1339354186 249752 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sqeo: why :'( < 1339354191 723501 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, my name is neither Taneb nor Ngevd nor Vorpal < 1339354201 348231 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it helps, I usually sound more monotone than that! < 1339354205 186955 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, I guess it is Nathan? < 1339354209 625573 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have the Posh Edinburgh Accent which makes me want to punch anyone else who has it. < 1339354219 788933 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU GUESS CORRECTLY, Vorpal < 1339354226 616119 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Download it, leave living room, play it, return. < 1339354226 917193 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, BY THE POWER OF WHOIS < 1339354240 890888 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Record yourself saying my name!!!! < 1339354242 64145 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll listen. < 1339354249 882349 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, you should record yourself then < 1339354253 210496 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :what, there are people who have non-lies in their whois? < 1339354268 583031 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, Salparot Olsner. < 1339354275 872434 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahahah I don't have a micro-- oh shit I do these days. < 1339354287 773067 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sqeo: why unbelieve :'( < 1339354290 237638 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have a working mic sadly < 1339354297 127418 :Sqeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, it sounds like a computer. < 1339354307 881718 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sqeo: You realise I am a computer, right? < 1339354355 708443 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I imagined your voice to be sharp and screechy kind of. So my statement about that being your voice wasn't rude, it should be considered positive instead. < 1339354366 634082 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1339354392 817667 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sqeo: You're right, I used text to speech. Here's the REAL me: < 1339354408 745515 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, your recording setup had some issues with skipping too. Not sure how that happened when recording audio... < 1339354413 247039 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ompldr.org/vZThkbw/names.aiff < 1339354425 412303 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: No skips when I play it back. < 1339354435 613502 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Problem exists between Vorpal's network connection and ears. < 1339354438 763698 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1339354446 815381 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :strange, they are in the same place every time < 1339354452 782512 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What time? < 1339354456 931593 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I'm just not hearing them. < 1339354466 314016 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :in Deewiant < 1339354469 743009 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you say it < 1339354475 395611 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No skips that I can hear. < 1339354476 218345 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :some pops and/or skips < 1339354477 740547 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :two of them < 1339354479 946110 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm okay < 1339354488 764735 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :skip poltergeists < 1339354490 87468 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I possibly blame pulseaudio then < 1339354501 659589 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Do you want me to record how I butcher your name??? < 1339354502 923281 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I BET YOU DO < 1339354504 892478 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway http://ompldr.org/vZThkbw/names.aiff gives me [0x7f4f9c025c88] main decoder error: no suitable decoder module for fourcc `undf'. < 1339354511 8047 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you already did once < 1339354518 321944 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Client Quit < 1339354519 714162 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Wasn't that me attempting to get it right? < 1339354522 385531 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: you're doing it wrong < 1339354523 434663 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, so whatever that is I can't play it < 1339354529 979434 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, hm? < 1339354531 295283 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: It's the OS X text-to-speech engine saying the same names. < 1339354533 750553 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was funnay joek. < 1339354543 706171 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, right, I wanted to listen to it though :P < 1339354554 780260 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Try running flac on it. < 1339354554 971225 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I AM GOING TO RISK GOING INTO THE NEXT ROOM < 1339354556 967110 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then playing the result. < 1339354560 669779 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: ENJOY < 1339354569 335254 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, oh mplayer worked < 1339354590 501163 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, sounds a bit deeper than your voice, otherwise similar ;P < 1339354598 354358 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taeynb. Njev'd. < 1339354609 778720 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ay-eyes five hundred twenty three. < 1339354609 969885 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are like that voice on a small dose of helium < 1339354610 161370 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ping < 1339354610 352347 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1339354615 826851 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay < 1339354620 662630 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now to get my headset < 1339354676 218660 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ping < 1339354676 409776 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1339354686 381672 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pang < 1339354686 573474 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1339354690 217918 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just want to inform everyone that the correct pronunciation of Ngevd is ŋɛvd. < 1339354720 829731 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Excuse me, it's how I pronounced it. < 1339354727 668714 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1339354732 160201 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I mean. < 1339354735 866121 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The correct way is how I pronounce it. < 1339354741 517222 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know whether I pronounced it that way. Didn't you listen? < 1339354743 773522 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :die < 1339354781 497589 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you not listen. :( < 1339354783 908008 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I pronounced your name in it. < 1339354981 965863 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: :( < 1339355034 966960 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :N'geved is the WRONG WAY < 1339355045 154690 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :UH there is no second e. < 1339355052 533123 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's N'gev'd. < 1339355064 397526 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it clearly starts with a ŋ < 1339355073 269369 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've got a file, were do I put it? < 1339355078 436619 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: So you can't do that if the monad isn't an instance of IO Monad, right? < 1339355080 137362 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: ompldr.org < 1339355081 786403 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And *where. < 1339355113 211541 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ompldr.org/vZThkeQ/names.flac < 1339355160 131280 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I messed up Ngevd on account of having a sore throat < 1339355162 186343 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't play FLAC here. :( < 1339355179 115334 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-235-225.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1339355186 136307 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: how quiet is that? < 1339355191 340171 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know < 1339355196 145001 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How quiet's quiet? < 1339355209 603177 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not especially loud < 1339355215 254203 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is very very quiet < 1339355229 890065 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone transcode that from FLAC for me. :p < 1339355233 169183 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's quite quiet < 1339355233 821874 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or I guess I could download VLC. < 1339355235 28227 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I can't hear anything without turning all of my volume controls to max < 1339355254 575295 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :THEN TURN THEM TO MAX < 1339355274 806910 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My mic was picking up a whole load of background < 1339355290 734432 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dammit why can't I convert audio files with mplayer. < 1339355295 726086 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I still can't really hear what you are saying < 1339355318 574666 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: mencoder < 1339355326 681171 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll re-record louder in a more elliott-friendly format < 1339355332 362086 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nooo. < 1339355333 936943 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't re-record. < 1339355334 570679 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, did I forget to mention I'm on Windows. < 1339355334 936640 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'll ruin < 1339355335 298566 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the < 1339355336 327317 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :magic < 1339355340 399828 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: when I turn my volumes to max I can hear that someone is speaking < 1339355341 794872 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION just downloads VLC. < 1339355348 194991 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For nortti < 1339355358 415868 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: why not mplayer? < 1339355393 618540 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't feel like remembering the arguments to amplify things. < 1339355405 658296 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fair enough < 1339355434 497081 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here we go. < 1339355489 702646 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: You sound less like a computer than me. < 1339355499 71174 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's because I am more man than machine < 1339355543 677338 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm so damn manly, I barely even count as a computer. < 1339355588 897688 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :poor you < 1339355589 462737 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Simultaneously, I feel as if my throat is attempting to strangle me < 1339355613 699455 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :me 2 < 1339355632 539267 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it doesn't like that you're trying to breathe through it all the time < 1339355647 158020 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :would you like that? probably not... < 1339355696 814885 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i breathe through olsner usually < 1339355699 611715 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So VLC claims to have converted the file but is showing no evidence of having done so, for instance by creating a file in the new format. < 1339355724 82541 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :#quit < 1339355724 273759 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: oonbotti < 1339355735 100491 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I already played it, man. < 1339355744 196816 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1339355750 358840 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean the file I made of me saying 'Ngevd' the right way. < 1339355773 161835 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1339355776 809218 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just upload it in whatever format, man. < 1339355787 178250 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even WMA? < 1339355851 336201 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahahahaha are you transcoding from wma < 1339355853 980723 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's so embarrassing < 1339355858 915114 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: look at Phantom_Hoover. < 1339355879 806870 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Client Quit < 1339355924 373837 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well I would have stopped if VLC didn't have the worst UI for transcoding. < 1339355935 594392 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just < 1339355937 711493 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :record it in non-wma < 1339355940 663979 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :use sound recorder or sth < 1339355953 539580 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I *am* using Sound Recorder. < 1339355958 713839 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't give any other formats. < 1339355964 247266 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch < 1339355983 705612 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, what about audacity? That is a good program. I think there is a windows version too? < 1339355989 435972 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Right. < 1339356004 106721 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :instance IO Monad where monad = IO < 1339356004 919508 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah there is < 1339356124 829330 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fucking finally. < 1339356131 691467 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use the same sound for the sh and ch in shachaf < 1339356147 604445 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ompldr.org/vZThlbg/Ngevd.ogg < 1339356180 354917 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, you're right < 1339356185 948653 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your voice is awful < 1339356190 646923 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH SNAP < 1339356193 554915 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :- Phantom_Hoover < 1339356199 984968 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :- :'( < 1339356213 699148 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: WELL YOU'RE WRONG < 1339356216 202039 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's just accept that everyone has an awful voice < 1339356226 84792 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: You should record yourself saying "Ngevd". < 1339356228 601717 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a well-regarded video blog < 1339356244 226873 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :With 8 subscribers! < 1339356245 75377 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I've never said "Ngevd < 1339356250 892145 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Say it now. < 1339356252 26745 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"; why should I start for the sake of a recording? < 1339356271 253437 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You've answered your own question there < 1339356295 204533 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, did you record any other name than that? < 1339356303 136334 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :also Taneb's recording was really quiet < 1339356329 800780 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Did you know I have a GitHub resository with SEVENTY-FIVE watchers. < 1339356343 37496 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I like how it is JavaScript! < 1339356349 774028 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1339356375 118290 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because if you want to be famous on GitHub, your best bet is to use JavaScript or Ruby. < 1339356491 143272 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :All of my github repositories are in the top-ten most watched < 1339356496 116079 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have github reposity with 1 watchers < 1339356504 503791 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(technically true) < 1339356509 58706 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-- This interface is based on @String@, and is likely to behave < 1339356509 249754 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-- unpredictably on codepoints above 255. The @ByteString@-based < 1339356509 441161 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-- interface in "Acme.Strfry.ByteString" is recommended for serious use. < 1339356516 16500 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wouldn't it be codepoints above 127? < 1339356539 910949 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it was being compared to Text < 1339356542 457450 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I don't think so. < 1339356545 67821 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I guess that depends on what withCString does. < 1339356549 780605 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, hmm. < 1339356552 85652 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-221-74.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ive never said ngevd but in my head i pronounce it ŋɛvd except when i slip up and accidentally pronounce it something more like ŋɛvəd woops < 1339356554 478538 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's being compared to ByteString, so I guess that it wants a string of bytes < 1339356565 426849 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Can you test what withCString does for me? < 1339356568 102111 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-221-74.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my head is a scary place < 1339356569 355762 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then send a... pull requests. < 1339356577 268115 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, looks like you're right. < 1339356582 524917 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: can i visit your head < 1339356599 743887 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont need another map of your head < 1339356603 977848 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :λ> withCString "ellíott" peekCString < 1339356604 214625 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"ell\237ott" < 1339356610 806055 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> chr 'í' < 1339356612 210230 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `GHC.Types.Int' < 1339356612 401420 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : against inferred type ... < 1339356616 636406 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ord 'í' < 1339356617 731235 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 237 < 1339356620 743957 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay. < 1339356627 2531 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION quotes the titles of B-Sides by Alternative Rock groups < 1339356631 159356 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder whether kmc knows this. < 1339356636 125742 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"another thing to h8" < 1339356637 288049 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235038077.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1339356660 39473 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Also that snippet there is probably undefined behavior or something. < 1339356664 739208 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Which snippet? < 1339356666 427569 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, never mind. < 1339356668 338902 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mine. < 1339356672 143610 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh well. < 1339356672 900388 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I was just silly. < 1339356734 382581 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.haskell.org/ghc/docs/7.4.1/html/users_guide/release-7-4-2.html < 1339356746 287777 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/1/2/ < 1339356795 651251 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1339356852 65631 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man, I haven't listened to this song in ages < 1339356866 527868 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :strfry s = B.useAsCString s (c_strfry >=> B.packCString) < 1339356869 3333 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably because I don't really like it? < 1339356870 936580 :Sqeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net NICK :Sgeo < 1339356876 585092 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Were you pleased to use >=> there? < 1339356882 855944 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I think I thought of you! < 1339356886 408746 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :When writing it. < 1339356897 263598 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-( < 1339357048 563065 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CAT PROGRAM IN HASKELL < 1339357069 787851 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :main = sequence_ . iterate (getChar >=> putChar) $ return () < 1339357079 786982 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-221-74.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it happens < 1339357095 239396 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Overkill. < 1339357096 722278 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :main = interact id < 1339357106 247632 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: LAZY I/O MONSTROSITY < 1339357106 972628 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OVERKILL IS THE BEST KIND OF KILL < 1339357107 657109 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: that doesn't work anything at all like a cat < 1339357111 45164 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :main = getChar >>= putChar >> main -- since yours doesn't handle EOF < 1339357120 452493 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :main = forever (getChar >>= putChar) < 1339357147 240826 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just goes to show... < 1339357149 573194 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's more than one way to skin a cat < 1339357179 686782 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-221-74.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :main = cat < 1339357201 841833 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :main=forever(getChar>>=putChar)`catch`\_->return() < 1339357209 355977 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat.skin() < 1339357237 262699 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :main=forever$try getChar>>=either(const$return())$(>>main).putChar < 1339357242 366507 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t forever$try getChar>>=either(const$return())$(>>main).putChar < 1339357243 525145 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in scope: `try' < 1339357243 717295 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in scope: `main' < 1339357247 875068 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess "try" is only part of the new exception library. < 1339357249 795782 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh well. < 1339357271 641590 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :main = forever (mfix (getChar >=> putChar)) < 1339357299 175410 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That works? < 1339357306 575404 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oddly, yes < 1339357319 37772 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-221-74.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it? < 1339357324 502905 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't handle eof < 1339357360 553638 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (getChar >=> putChar, mfix (getChar >=> putChar), forever (getChar >=> putChar)) < 1339357361 543861 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `a -> m b' < 1339357361 746575 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : against inferred type `IO Char' < 1339357361 938057 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : In the first argument of `(>=>)', namely `getChar' < 1339357367 972150 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :getChar >=> putChar doesn't even type. < 1339357369 39921 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (getChar >=> putChar, mfix (getChar >=> putChar), forever (mfix (getChar >=> putChar))) < 1339357370 47517 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `a -> m b' < 1339357370 238156 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : against inferred type `IO Char' < 1339357370 429560 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : In the first argument of `(>=>)', namely `getChar' < 1339357380 85698 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's because I had a const in it < 1339357392 172640 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :main = forever (mfix (const getChar >=> putChar)) < 1339357412 859555 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :const x >=> y, aka x >>= y < 1339357415 704348 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait. < 1339357418 277458 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :const x >=> y, aka const (x >>= y) < 1339357424 120582 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah! < 1339357425 304009 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1339357442 459541 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mfix . const may be like ID, I'm not sure < 1339357485 763743 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OVERKILL < 1339357515 980160 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My friend < 1339357561 98055 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix . const $ "nepotism" < 1339357563 227125 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "nepotism" < 1339357657 574576 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some code that I wrote some time ago to object to Clojure seems to just be saying "Clojure doesn't stop you from being stupid" < 1339357689 892380 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Overkill leads to obfuscation, which leads to FUN < 1339357695 103369 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1339357706 802455 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you know: < 1339357719 307165 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott DOESN'T USE MONOSPACE FONTS FOR IRC < 1339357732 85668 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"true fax, from the tomodo department" < 1339357744 26669 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everyone knows that. < 1339357746 94978 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even monqy knows that. < 1339357785 547186 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-221-74.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :even i know that < 1339357800 587263 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: But did you know it before elliott told you? < 1339357811 715766 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-221-74.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :when was that < 1339357836 59549 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :before elliott was born :'( < 1339357862 447886 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-8-22.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1339357862 832804 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-8-22.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1339357863 23246 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1339357871 792393 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"i use irc with a variable width font" ———— elliott's first words < 1339357871 983288 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ping < 1339357872 174627 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1339357884 543504 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :GOODNIGHT IF YOU CAN HEAR ME OUT THERE < 1339357888 187792 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.refheap.com/paste/4fd4fa18e4b0232cc152e706 < 1339357905 855842 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Me, maybe a year ago, objecting to Clojure not stopping people from being stupid < 1339357911 180256 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Shout really loud. < 1339357913 75803 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I will hear it. < 1339357970 483961 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1339358096 826157 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-42.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1339358507 466807 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, that was ridiculous deja vu. < 1339358826 66247 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, what was? < 1339358835 878574 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :A thing. < 1339358843 621605 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :also does Taneb have connection issues? < 1339358904 787746 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think so < 1339359121 337429 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Is there something like Applicative that doesn't have ordering? < 1339359131 321039 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or something. < 1339359142 72615 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you could just say f <*> x === x <**> f. < 1339359145 257601 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that seems overly strong. < 1339359364 505489 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, when people talk about commutative monads < 1339359368 892050 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what it means < 1339359376 768257 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose you could talk about a commutative lax monoidal functor < 1339359382 573569 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :haven't quite thought what that would mean yet < 1339359388 195029 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: In this case I'm just wondering because HashMap has: < 1339359395 386642 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :traverseWithKey :: Applicative f => (k -> v1 -> f v2) -> HashMap k v1 -> f (HashMap k v2) < 1339359414 583673 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is a very nice function (you can implement, e.g. an efficient HashMap lens with it) < 1339359424 188004 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it also exposes the underlying ordering of the HashMap < 1339359429 492348 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just wondering if you can get the same benefits without exposing that < 1339359430 97170 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1339359435 368243 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, dunno < 1339359443 435289 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(You do the Lens by using Cont and breaking out with the value, and when you get resumed with the replacement value, returning it.) < 1339359454 126877 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(For edwardk-style lenses.) < 1339359570 36388 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alternatively, can you define a variant of Cont that's a commutative applicative? < 1339359576 216501 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think possibly yes, but I'm not sure. < 1339359580 440159 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It'd have to be restricted somehow, of course.) < 1339360024 462209 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmmm. < 1339360030 113457 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :An SO question from Jon Harrop tagged [haskell]. < 1339360038 487691 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: What are the chances this isn't some partisan trolling bullshit? < 1339360349 481488 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1339360495 957633 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if it's my imagination, or if my Nook is helping me read by forcing me not to skim < 1339360648 455521 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ais523 < 1339360657 769137 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1339360657 989118 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1339360661 81760 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1339360661 291432 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott asked 18h 15m 58s ago: actually, how can you use "1" in your presentation if you're using a semigroup? they don't have an identity < 1339360668 304759 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I'm using a semi/ring/ < 1339360670 746198 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have two identities < 1339360672 166007 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 and 1 < 1339360690 745488 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and both addition and multiplication, which interact with 0 and 1 like you'd expect) < 1339360695 868311 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ah, semiring < 1339360698 498716 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry < 1339360842 620518 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1339364105 694981 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does mean < 1339364123 34126 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it means the value was optimised out < 1339364132 415116 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. the code was optimised to not need that value < 1339364145 399380 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1339364163 797656 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if i turn off all optimizations, i can find out what it is < 1339364224 811528 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it means that you have a bug in your program < 1339364226 808847 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(otherwise, why would you be using a debugger?) < 1339364234 459021 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I got a sign from GOD. < 1339364236 850560 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn right i have a bug < 1339364254 441200 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the bug being "it doesnt work and doesnt give me any indication of why" < 1339364255 418642 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :tip: remove the bug < 1339364277 749545 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION throws olsner at the problem, sees if he sticks < 1339364294 610324 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :tip: convert bug to other type of bug < 1339364307 792932 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :tip: redefine bug as feature < 1339364308 8115 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the kind that explains itself? < 1339364316 62593 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: good idea < 1339364362 358413 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: do you mean the microsoft way of handling bugs? < 1339364378 530625 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: guess what this new scoring system does? it epitomizes equality and fair play by giving all competitors a score of 0! no more squabbling about who is the best, and no more chaos on the hill. it's revolutionary! < 1339364397 208094 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1339364430 272469 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: That sounds kind of egalitarian. < 1339364436 734849 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would change your name and move to another country ASAP. < 1339364453 378827 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia NICK :aipotniuq < 1339364461 627954 :aipotniuq!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :sweden sure is nice this time of year < 1339364520 629460 :aipotniuq!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia NICK :quintopia < 1339365382 731576 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1339365393 448599 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :push everything four salad salad < 1339365412 938806 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1339365592 488446 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't sleep, whenever i close my eyes i start thinking about the ranks of countably converging cellular automata < 1339365601 636305 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1339365618 19366 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :! < 1339365631 655396 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly < 1339365936 424704 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Sign from GOD? What kind of sign? Stop sign? Or the other sign? < 1339365945 535086 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm can CCDs degrade over time as to produce noisier images? When I compared a picture I took today and one I took ten years ago with the same camera under similar conditions the one I took today is significantly noiser. (Similar subjects too, large grey areas) < 1339365983 749655 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Other sign. < 1339365993 106563 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What other sign? < 1339366019 110316 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ask elliott. < 1339366020 857321 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :both were taken with ISO 64. f/11, and similar times (1/500 and 1/450) < 1339366042 576796 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: What other sign does shachaf get? < 1339366162 719424 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: GOD's. < 1339366193 540191 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Sign Panther also left me some signs. < 1339366208 11925 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :LITTLE-KNOWN FACT: When I played _World of Goo_, I thought the signs were life by "The Sign Panther". < 1339366276 653421 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know it is GOD's sign, but still that doesn't explain much. < 1339366278 489857 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :but really they were death by him < 1339366305 910867 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and all the little goos when to gooey heaven < 1339366313 995044 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i meant to say went < 1339366320 528081 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh believe me < 1339366323 721583 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i meant to say went < 1339366412 520983 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :signs from MOM! < 1339367104 629877 :derdon!~derdon@pD9E1DD60.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1339367105 503592 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1339367885 229213 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: oonbotti < 1339367996 784206 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1339368013 858118 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Client Quit < 1339368428 76742 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1339368849 160033 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey shachaf give elliott portal 2 < 1339368862 54701 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :alternately: play portal 2 with me < 1339368870 410940 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No don't play Portal 2 with PH he's awful. < 1339368887 476476 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :awful by which you mean amazing < 1339368900 724489 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: OK, I'll play Portal 2 with you! < 1339368903 371575 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not today, though. < 1339368907 883067 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"i needed to go a while ago" < 1339368922 986341 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1339368928 660031 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know some things about 6502 programming, such as how I could add support for music subroutines to PPMCK? < 1339368939 799701 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Also, elliott said he wouldn't even get around to it if I did. < 1339368942 966176 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"for, like, a month" < 1339368948 708511 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1339368951 548505 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't say that! < 1339368953 18482 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is why i will play with you < 1339368964 587729 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, IT SOUNDS LIKE SOMETHING YOU WOULD SAY < 1339368971 822165 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I'll play Portal 2 with you N units of time before shachaf plays Portal 2 with you if shachaf gives me it. < 1339368975 381954 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :BAMMMMM < 1339369041 179043 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :portal 2 has an achievement for completing the game, then playing co-op with someone who has never played co-op before (or completed the game before?) < 1339369051 168327 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIRC, it's set up so it's theoretically impossible for /everyone/ to get it < 1339369056 971823 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover just doesn't have any friends < 1339369063 609217 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the real reason < 1339369079 301623 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats not true < 1339369087 469639 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1339369088 54342 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is < 1339369095 121234 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i'll pay you $99999 for protals 1 & 3 < 1339369113 733924 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: offer not valid when 3 is released? < 1339369121 621047 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that;s my age < 1339369122 333890 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 < 1339369123 352412 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(if 3 is released) < 1339369129 106184 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1339369141 749558 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1 .&. 3 :: Int < 1339369142 917063 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1 < 1339369145 654196 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: OKAY < 1339369154 685352 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :AND ALSO 2 < 1339369167 61438 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :AND ALSO IT'S 0 instead of $9999999 < 1339369184 225826 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"0: a number so cool, it doesn't even need units" < 1339369195 918499 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes! < 1339370118 598585 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1339370558 765903 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Maybe I could play Portal 1... right now? < 1339370565 250170 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it fun early on. < 1339370572 888627 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Is it. < 1339370577 112548 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :wit is < 1339370579 271868 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :*it is < 1339370653 509855 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Can my computer run Portal 2. < 1339370656 832804 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno < 1339370661 864860 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1339370669 78756 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(How good a connection, latency-wise, do you need for Portal 2 coop?) < 1339370674 795809 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno < 1339371218 61967 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Did you know I meet Portal 2's system requirements? I think? < 1339371224 990902 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure if this card counts as Nvidia 8600M or higher. < 1339371299 76576 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, yes, but the thing is it's a Valve game so the start is kind of babystepping and you don't want to stop right as the pace picks up. < 1339371313 781679 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: But I don't have time to play the whole thing right now! < 1339372784 709678 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Does Portal really only take two hours to complete?