00:08:02 "Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of truth and knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the gods." -- Albert Einstein 00:11:24 elliott: good example 00:16:44 AngryJoe Plays Steel Battalion Kinect http://youtu.be/VxKRBUzElTU?t=5m45s <-- hm that is old 00:16:52 I think I watched it last week or so? 00:17:03 (I subscribe to that channel, it can be quite amusing) 00:17:50 Phantom_Hoover, where was that quote from? 00:18:21 and yes it is funny. I'm not sure about the emo part, but other than that it is spot on 00:20:09 comment on a site 00:26:08 -!- zzo38 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 01:14:34 ok 01:14:38 * Phantom_Hoover -> sleep 01:14:39 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Quit: Leaving). 01:55:25 -!- Vorpal has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 01:56:26 -!- zzo38 has joined. 02:21:43 @ask ais523 actually, how can you use "1" in your presentation if you're using a semigroup? they don't have an identity 02:21:44 Consider it noted. 02:21:56 -!- azaq23 has quit (Quit: Leaving.). 02:22:47 elliott: Did you get the hblunmbndle? 02:22:54 Yes. 02:24:03 elliott: Was it good? 02:24:25 I haven't played any of the games yet. 02:25:30 I didn't ask if the games were good. :-( 02:25:37 (You haven't played Braid?) 02:27:39 It’s probably the greatest bundle so far. 02:29:10 shachaf: No. 02:29:10 I haven't played *any* Bundle game. 02:29:12 Yet I've bought most of them. 02:29:14 Except for the crappy ones. 02:29:20 elliott: You ought to try Braid! 02:29:21 Just ask kmc. 02:29:26 (The Android one and some of the developer-specific ones and the Botanica one.) 02:29:42 I didn’t try Braid yet, but it seems interesting. 02:29:45 kmc: Right? I need some moralizing here. 02:34:27 -!- esowiki has joined. 02:34:29 -!- glogbot has joined. 02:34:30 -!- EgoBot has joined. 02:34:30 -!- glogbackup has left. 02:34:32 -!- esowiki has joined. 02:34:32 -!- esowiki has joined. 02:34:44 -!- glogbackup has quit (Excess Flood). 02:34:48 -!- Zetro has joined. 02:35:02 -!- Gregor has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 02:35:09 -!- HackEgo has joined. 02:35:34 -!- Gregor has joined. 02:36:48 -!- calamari has joined. 02:39:46 -!- david_werecat has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 02:41:39 -!- calamari has quit (Client Quit). 03:02:02 -!- flyingcow has joined. 03:02:22 -!- flyingcow has left. 03:05:40 -!- sebbu2 has changed nick to sebbu. 03:46:10 -!- copumpkin has joined. 03:46:38 hi copumpkin 03:46:41 hi 03:50:56 What's quote 471? 03:50:58 `quote 471 03:51:01 471) tswett: last argument must be a cub scout!! have you made your money-drop today?? 03:51:08 Oh. 03:51:27 That may be the best quote. 03:54:30 copumpkin: tomodo is fax, right? 03:54:57 I've guessed that before, but I dunno 03:55:03 sounds a lot more depressed than fax ever did 03:57:01 Who's fax? 03:57:25 shachaf: A thing that lets you send documents through the telephone. 03:57:50 @where e_10 03:57:50 let w(p,q)i=(p*i+1,q*i);d%(p,q)=p*d`div`q;(x:y:s)^d|d%y>d%x=s^d|0<1=mod(d%x)10:s^(10*d)in 2:scanl w(1,1)[1..]^10>>=show 03:57:52 Golf! 03:58:14 > let w(p,q)i=(p*i+1,q*i);d%(p,q)=p*d`div`q;(x:y:s)^d|d%y>d%x=s^d|0<1=mod(d%x)10:s^(10*d)in 2:scanl w(1,1)[1..]^10>>=show 03:58:15 "27182818284590452353602874713526624977572470936999595749669676277240766303... 03:59:05 I'm tempted to implement Lenses in Clojure 03:59:23 has it been done? 03:59:33 Good question 03:59:38 shachaf: a recurring character who shares some characteristics with tomodo, and also changes nick every so often 04:00:42 copumpkin: (I think shachaf knows who fax is.) 04:00:49 I don't, actually. 04:00:54 i know who shadowfax is 04:00:58 * copumpkin sticks his tongue out at elliott 04:01:04 Who's shadowfax. :( 04:02:01 i would suspect it's been done 04:02:14 which doesn't mean you shouldn't do it 04:02:22 that never stopped anyone from writing a lenses library in haskell, either :) 04:02:32 have you used Clojure much? 04:04:51 kmc, not really 04:04:53 Want to 04:05:05 Need an example of useful Categories for #clojure 04:05:10 I mentioned rotations 04:05:15 And they're not going to know what arrows are 04:05:28 (I want to illustrate why comp should be general) 04:12:26 -!- MDude has changed nick to MSleep. 04:15:23 ....I am an idiot. 04:16:16 I thought map was supposed to be general on the first argument. Because I am a derp. 04:16:22 I think I was thinking of return. 04:16:24 what does that mean 04:16:38 hi 04:16:41 As in, map's first argument could be more than just a function 04:16:48 ok 04:17:12 > map 3 ["hi","Sgeo_"] 04:17:13 [3,3] 04:17:44 thlambdabot 04:19:04 "hey here's this great interactive tool for learning Haskell! except we've filled it with useless nonstandard behavior for the sake of what amounts to an inside joke." 04:19:19 from the right perspective this is quite a shitty thing to do 04:19:43 kmc: Hey, we're not in #haskell here. 04:19:43 one of the things that wore me out in #haskell was constantly having to explain these aberrations 04:19:52 cale's view has always been that it's not a pedagogical tool so it's kind of disingenuous to argue along those lines 04:19:54 “thambdabot” 04:19:59 i still disagree but 04:20:04 (with cale) 04:20:09 elliott: well, ok, but then people should stop advancing it as a pedagogical tool 04:20:17 elliott: Is #haskell a pedagogical channel? 04:20:21 no 04:20:28 i would rather have the pedagogical tool than the toy, personally 04:20:32 given the current channel composition 04:20:39 Are you a pedagogue? 04:20:52 Peaker was saying something along similar lines. 04:21:08 certainly the number of confused beginners has gone up since the channel was founded 04:22:01 there are multiple ways to solve this problem, but in the absence of consensus on a solution, the status quo sucks 04:22:23 annoying quantum trash 04:22:43 what was Peaker saying? 04:22:51 peaker says lots of things!! 04:22:54 That (.) should be (.) instead of fmap. 04:23:09 Because it just confuses people and makes it more annoying to explain things otherwise. 04:24:15 * kmc gets bitter 04:24:17 They should use Category.. 04:26:51 kmc: gets? gets????? 04:27:10 god bless you kmc but i have never seen you say a single thing about #haskell i would not classify as bitter :P 04:27:16 elliott: As in "a regular thing". 04:27:31 kmc gets bitter every day at noon and stays bitter until ~04:00 the next day. 04:27:41 it comes and goes 04:27:49 elliott: you must have ignored all the nice things I said about #haskell in #haskell, then 04:28:02 It's true. 04:28:10 #haskell has a lot of nice things to say about itself. 04:28:14 and i still have many nice things to say about it 04:28:26 the people are by and large friendly and well-intentioned 04:28:37 it's still the friendliest language channel I've seen, by far 04:28:40 certainly for being that huge 04:28:53 sounds like a nice place 04:29:07 The best langauage channel is #monqys-crawl. 04:29:14 to some extent I think the friendliness is a problem 04:29:21 but it certainly is a virtue even if it has some negative consequences as well 04:30:04 also the people there are fucking smart 04:30:14 except for the ones that aren't 04:30:15 even the ones that aren't ?? 04:30:16 yes 04:30:19 and everyone really seems to like learning 04:30:24 and who are indistinguishable to most people 04:30:30 It looks like many of them cannot answer my questions though 04:30:37 shrug, i never got a feeling from one of the regulars that "this person is an idiot and needs to stfu" 04:30:41 zzo38: at leat they're friendly about it ! 04:30:42 of course maybe this means I was the dumbest regular 04:30:44 which means you have to come up with new and exciting ways to say "you're incompetent; stop misleading the newbies" 04:30:44 zzo38: or so I hear 04:30:48 without actually saying it 04:30:53 kmc: well, they don't have to be regular. 04:31:07 kmc: (I do get such a feeling from one or two. but I think they only became regular as you left.) 04:31:08 elliott: people have explanations i disagree with, and can argue against, but I wouldn't go so far as to insult their intelligence 04:31:20 by "incompetent" I mean strictly in the context of their advice 04:31:29 but yes, it's impolite, that's why you don't say it :P 04:31:56 (and by "regulars" i'm of course ignoring a few perennial helpless beginners) 04:32:06 oh, well that's cheating 04:32:16 kmc: have i linked you to the Monad page on haskellwiki 04:32:21 yeah 04:32:26 it's the best 04:32:30 :/ 04:32:32 (I like how right as copumpkin gets dragged back the channel goes into full on meta-Haskell mode.) 04:32:52 kmc: Did you know the author of the awful parts of that page once downvoted me on Stack Overflow? 04:33:06 Some people, I tell ya. 04:33:30 dragged back? 04:33:35 is copumpkin punting #haskell as well? 04:33:46 shachaf conspicuously said HEY COPUMPKIN DID YOU LEFT #ESOTERIC in -blah. 04:33:57 I don't really pay much attention to #haskell these days 04:34:00 and copumpkin was all OH HA HA I HATE YOU GUYS SO MUCH UURGH BUT I'LL PRETEND I JUST FORGOT 04:34:01 but I haven't actively left it 04:34:01 everyone knows #esoteric is the real #haskell-blah 04:34:03 ok 04:34:16 you must have better self control than me 04:35:15 I do not know if mathematicians normally call the Finalize moand and the Initialize comonad something different, so I just called them by these names. 04:35:36 if mathematicians call them something different, it's probably something dumb 04:35:55 oh "dragged back to #esoteric" i see 04:36:02 it's my fault we went all meta :/ 04:36:15 i will claim shachaf trolld me 04:36:22 kmc: Something dumb? Why do you think that? 04:36:28 kmc: The term is "pronked". 04:36:40 kmc: "sry 4 trollding u :'(" 04:36:44 ("hecked" also works.) 04:36:46 I do not even know how commonly mathematicians would deal with these monad/comonad though 04:36:55 (As in "shachaf thoroughly hecked my aim there".) 04:37:34 But they are valid for any category having a final/initial object 04:38:11 kmc: Should I sleep? 04:38:28 SHIFTING INTO CHANNEL MODE #4: elliott asking whether he should sleep at unreasonable hours 04:38:52 > 22 + 38 04:38:53 60 04:39:00 elliott: You must sleep before the end of this hour. 04:39:13 Why do you ask other people if you want to sleep? 04:39:28 zzo38: He asks other people whether he *should* sleep. 04:42:34 The answer is usually "yes". 04:42:48 He also then ignores the answer, and often asks again. 04:43:06 yes 04:43:12 nobody has answered yet this time though 04:43:30 `pastelogs monqy 04:44:02 http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.28315 04:44:18 `pastelogs monqy 04:44:22 pikhq_: should i sleep 04:44:24 monqy: shoudl ji seplh 04:44:26 http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.21703 04:47:10 elliott: Si, señór 04:54:13 -!- elliott has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 04:59:53 -!- pikhq_ has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 04:59:56 -!- pikhq has joined. 05:00:20 "good job elliott" 05:02:44 gelliott 05:08:31 -!- DHeadshot has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 05:08:54 -!- DHeadshot has joined. 05:13:08 -!- DHeadshot has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 05:35:20 -!- sebbu has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 05:38:24 -!- sebbu has joined. 05:38:25 -!- sebbu has quit (Changing host). 05:38:25 -!- sebbu has joined. 05:44:29 `quote greece 05:44:31 778) Why does CL get called functional? it's sort of like how you call ancient greece democratic. 06:03:07 heh 06:03:24 don't tell the CL people that CL is functional 06:03:27 they have that 06:03:28 hate* 06:25:31 What I mean by Finalize is the endofunctor mapping all objects to the final object; it should be easy to see how this is a monad. 06:25:54 There is only one possibility! 06:32:19 Do you agree? 06:32:36 zzo38: you are very entertaining 06:33:00 quintopia: Do you understand what I am meaning? 06:33:26 i dont even know what monads are silly 06:33:41 -!- Taneb has joined. 06:34:17 Do you know what a category is (in category theory)? 06:34:22 Hello! 06:34:24 Me? 06:34:39 Taneb: No, I mean quintopia, but you are free to answer if you wish 06:35:01 no idea 06:35:11 It's a bunch of elements with morphisms between various elements where composing morphisms is possible, also there is an identity morphism 06:35:15 I think 06:35:37 Taneb: Yes, and composition is associative 06:36:51 There is an identity morphism for each object, which is identity for the composition operator, and a morphism (X -> Y) and (Y -> Z) can be composed to (X -> Z) (although by standard mathematical notation, the (Y -> Z) goes on the left) 06:37:42 eh feel free to use the concatenative style 06:39:53 So the object X identity morphism will be from X to X where id . f = f . id = f if f has the correct object it is from/to, and . means composition. 06:40:12 Any monoid forms a category with one object. 06:42:54 Is that good? 06:43:30 -!- copumpkin has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 06:44:10 -!- copumpkin has joined. 06:57:49 -!- zzo38 has quit (Quit: Leftput/rightput error). 07:02:12 -!- asiekierka has joined. 07:35:41 -!- IrcCheck has joined. 07:36:33 -!- IrcCheck has left. 07:50:02 -!- DHeadshot has joined. 07:58:06 borkdude: It's hard (nearly impossible) to, for example, use SLIME with both Clojure and Common Lisp. I suppose it's because you use an ancient version of SLIME with Clojure because it's impossible to follow SLIME development because they never release anything. 07:58:08 GAH 07:58:11 * Sgeo_ blarghs 08:03:16 What's happened 08:06:01 Taneb, read the line from Raynes 08:06:19 I have done, and do not realise the significance of it 08:06:39 -!- copumpkin has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 08:06:39 The significance is it's harder for me to play with both Common Lisp and Clojure 08:06:50 :( 08:07:09 -!- copumpkin has joined. 08:15:52 -!- Taneb has quit (Quit: Leaving). 08:53:32 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 09:09:48 -!- sebbu2 has joined. 09:09:48 -!- sebbu2 has quit (Changing host). 09:09:48 -!- sebbu2 has joined. 09:12:55 -!- sebbu has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 09:17:40 -!- Taneb has joined. 09:17:43 Hello 09:31:35 fungot 09:31:36 Taneb: bit 4 off, and parameters associated with them. the scale selected is concert pitch, in order to change the routine 09:32:42 -!- Taneb has quit (Quit: Page closed). 09:37:17 -!- kmc has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 09:44:49 -!- kmc has joined. 10:17:53 -!- derdon has joined. 10:41:21 o 11:12:39 -!- Taneb has joined. 11:14:23 Hello 11:16:00 -!- james-ubc has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 11:16:21 hi 11:18:45 -!- nortti has set topic: forking | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/. 11:30:21 -!- david_werecat has joined. 11:31:41 In my new school timetable, on Fridays I alternate between two classrooms. 11:31:52 On the second floor. 11:31:56 Of two different buildings 11:41:22 -!- Tod-Autojoined has joined. 11:41:23 -!- TodPunk has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 11:41:58 -!- aloril has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 11:43:26 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 11:44:06 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 11:53:54 Hey, PH 11:55:01 -!- aloril has joined. 11:57:14 S5 Modal Logic is... I think it's a coapplicative, if that's a thing that makes sense to me 11:59:37 It has (<*>) and extract 12:00:48 No wait, it's an applicative comonad 12:02:16 GOODBYE 12:02:19 -!- Taneb has quit (Quit: Leaving). 12:08:34 Wow http://youtu.be/p08_KlTKP50 12:30:32 -!- Taneb has joined. 12:32:19 Hello 12:52:55 I find it weird that some monads are comonad 12:53:08 I guess I don't have a sufficient idea of catergoric dual 12:53:09 s 12:54:49 -!- oklopol has quit. 13:27:09 -!- Taneb has quit (Quit: Leaving). 14:06:11 -!- Labbekak has joined. 14:06:42 > [(x, y)|x<-[1..3], y<-[4..6]] 14:06:43 [(1,4),(1,5),(1,6),(2,4),(2,5),(2,6),(3,4),(3,5),(3,6)] 14:08:22 [[x*y|y<-[1..x]]|x <- [1..10]] 14:08:29 > [[x*y|y<-[1..x]]|x <- [1..10]] 14:08:30 [[1],[2,4],[3,6,9],[4,8,12,16],[5,10,15,20,25],[6,12,18,24,30,36],[7,14,21,... 14:09:58 > [[x*y|y<-[1..10]]|x <- [1..10]] 14:09:59 [[1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10],[2,4,6,8,10,12,14,16,18,20],[3,6,9,12,15,18,21,24,2... 14:10:14 > [[x*y|y<-[1..3]]|x <- [1..3]] 14:10:16 [[1,2,3],[2,4,6],[3,6,9]] 14:12:05 > [[x`max`y|y<-[1..3]]|x <- [1..3]] 14:12:06 [[1,2,3],[2,2,3],[3,3,3]] 14:12:24 > [[x`min`y|y<-[1..3]]|x <- [1..3]] 14:12:26 [[1,1,1],[1,2,2],[1,2,3]] 14:12:59 > [[(x`min`y) * (x`max`y)|y<-[1..3]]|x <- [1..3]] 14:13:00 [[1,2,3],[2,4,6],[3,6,9]] 14:14:03 -!- MSleep has changed nick to MDude. 14:19:52 > [[[x*y*z|z<-[1..3]]|y<-[1..3]]|x<-[1..3]] 14:19:53 [[[1,2,3],[2,4,6],[3,6,9]],[[2,4,6],[4,8,12],[6,12,18]],[[3,6,9],[6,12,18],... 14:20:32 how to generalize that to n dimensions? 14:38:28 write it explicitly as a monad 14:38:42 once you have the monadic construction, then you just fold over the dimentions 14:45:05 -!- sebbu2 has changed nick to sebbu. 14:58:25 -!- Labbekak has quit (Quit: Page closed). 15:16:37 -!- MoALTz has joined. 15:18:35 -!- Taneb has joined. 15:18:38 Hello 15:26:50 -!- elliott has joined. 15:26:57 http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?title=User:Julianc&curid=8485&diff=32739&oldid=32738 hmm... 15:26:57 elliott: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. 15:27:15 That warrents a warning? 15:30:59 it doesn't /do/ anything 15:31:15 http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?title=User:Julianc&diff=next&oldid=32739 not sure what the nowiki here is meant to accomplish :P 15:34:01 -!- azaq23 has joined. 15:34:05 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 15:34:13 -!- azaq23 has quit (Max SendQ exceeded). 15:36:59 -!- azaq23 has joined. 15:37:12 -!- elliott has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 15:40:53 -!- Patashu has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 15:56:42 Wow, that reddit nuclear coverup guy went full-on conspiracy nut. 15:56:49 Like, even more full-on conspiracy nut. 15:57:07 nice 15:57:20 I bet reddit itself is in on it 15:57:57 I think his current theory is that the government are somehow covering up a massive, end-of-the-world solar flare in spite of the fact that he's used public solar flare data to corroborate his claims. 15:58:15 Also that the magnetic poles started switching overnight and the magnetosphere is now gone. 16:04:03 -!- nooga has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 16:04:45 Oh, great. 16:04:56 I'm fairly sure the headphone port of this computer is broken. 16:39:51 Is it due to solar flares covered up by the government 16:48:06 -!- Vorpal has joined. 16:51:03 -!- elliott has joined. 16:51:11 hi 16:51:15 Hello 16:51:39 :) 16:52:29 hi! 16:52:41 -!- nooga has joined. 16:53:10 -!- copumpkin has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 16:53:41 -!- copumpkin has joined. 16:53:47 -!- copumpkin has quit (Changing host). 16:53:47 -!- copumpkin has joined. 16:53:53 olsner: :) 17:19:07 -!- nooga has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 17:19:37 Does codo notation even make sense? 17:20:29 Probably. 17:20:47 flip extend :: w a -> (w a -> b) -> w b 17:20:49 So you'd have 17:20:58 codo { x <- w; ... } where 17:21:01 w :: w a 17:21:05 x :: w a 17:21:06 ... :: b 17:21:11 Okay 17:21:13 and then 17:21:17 codo { x <- w; ... } :: w b 17:21:25 not sure how it would chain, though 17:21:30 oh, it'd just be left-associative 17:21:34 Okay, thanks 17:21:37 yw 17:21:41 I'm gonna have dinner now, bye 17:21:42 -!- Taneb has quit (Quit: Leaving). 17:21:58 yw 17:25:41 -!- nooga has joined. 17:42:16 elliott, "yw"? 17:42:28 yer wiggly 17:42:45 right.. 17:43:00 OR: yang wanker 17:43:11 OR: yuppie winks 17:43:13 OR: you're welcome 17:43:14 bbiab 17:43:24 phone 17:55:45 back 17:57:10 elliott: hi 17:57:16 quintopia: hi 17:57:23 Vorpal: (spoiler it's actually the last one) 17:57:32 elliott, I realised that 17:57:38 (spoiler ok) 18:02:27 fizzie: You know the IPv6 2001: stuff? 18:02:30 Was that assigned in 2001? 18:04:32 I don't think all of 2001: is assigned, and the (current) RFC that describes that prefix is from 2006. 18:05:08 and the possibly first one is from 2000 18:05:17 I mean the 2001 IPv4 stuff. 18:05:29 I just always read it as a year. :p 18:05:47 ipv4 stuff? 18:05:52 You know. 18:05:53 oh the teredo? 18:05:54 Bridge stuff. 18:06:06 People have IPv6 IPs that start with 2001: a lot because they don't have native IPv6. 18:06:16 well yeah, I have that 18:07:02 -!- Taneb has joined. 18:07:03 Hello 18:07:18 Taneb: hi 18:07:55 hi Taneb 18:08:03 hi 18:11:17 :) 18:11:24 :) 18:11:29 :\ 18:11:33 :( 18:11:49 :D 18:12:01 :O 18:12:47 >:{D> 18:13:32 <8{B 18:13:56 }:{D> 18:14:12 >:~"d 18:14:21 I just mashed keys randomly. Could have turned out worse. 18:14:28 :^/ 18:15:00 :V 18:15:12 :: 18:15:12 Stop. 18:15:17 "L@:$ 18:15:19 'as;lE 18:15:20 :@"£ 18:15:21 :$@{£ 18:15:22 :±_+@ 18:15:33 ºÐΩıµ®Ð 18:15:35 +_+ looks pretty good 18:15:37 You have a plus-or-minus key? 18:15:41 ∑´#†®˚©˙ƒ~ 18:15:43 who doesnt? 18:15:52 Laptop keyboard :/ 18:16:05 Taneb, for me ± is altgr-' 18:16:05 I'm using a laptop. 18:16:19 where ' is the dead key over é 18:16:26 (it is next to backspace) 18:16:33 � 18:16:39 \ 18:16:39 ERROR:Word not found 18:16:52 }][{��| 18:17:03 :µ 18:17:04 Taneb, ə… 18:17:13 @łe¶ŧ←↓↓→øþßðđŋħjĸł«»¢“”nµ··· 18:17:14 Unknown command, try @list 18:17:18 (I did that using compose, no idea if it can be done with altgr) 18:17:20 \ 18:17:20 ERROR:Word not found 18:17:55 >·^ 18:18:12 FOUND IT 18:18:16 altgr + shift + 9 18:18:19 � 18:18:20 ¡ 18:18:24 Taneb, that gives me » 18:18:26 øœ∑´®“´π©¬ƒ∂… 18:18:26 � 18:18:49 Vorpal, I'd assume you're not on a British keyboard 18:18:54 indeed 18:19:21 ´¥¨^º– 18:19:28 Taneb, but a lot of the altgr keys have the same positional mapping though. like ← being altgr-y 18:19:36 YEah 18:19:54 ¬@ 18:20:02 �@? 18:20:13 ` 18:20:16 Shift-`, shift '? 18:20:17 Taneb, not at? 18:20:23 /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: : not found 18:20:27 Taneb, what? 18:20:31 Don`t you love it when people use the backtick as an apo`strophe? 18:20:37 Confused 18:20:43 sum 18:20:54 ¬ was altgr-shift- 18:21:04 have* 18:21:11 ] 18:21:18 well guess it isn't for you 18:21:21 Is altgr-9 18:21:27 REDUNDANCY, YEAH 18:21:28 Taneb, try the key next to backspace then 18:21:42 Taneb, that altgr-9 is the only place I have ] :P 18:21:44 {[]} altgr-(7-0) 18:21:45 Ḑoesn't do anything 18:21:55 yes it did 18:21:59 it combined with the D 18:22:01 @ altg-2 18:22:05