< 1343174416 574410 :derdon!~derdon@pD9E1C483.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1343174874 224028 :segorev!~cherep@217.172.23.118 JOIN :#esoteric < 1343174942 138695 :segorev!~cherep@217.172.23.118 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yo brothers < 1343174948 152808 :segorev!~cherep@217.172.23.118 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is anybody here? < 1343174954 376446 :segorev!~cherep@217.172.23.118 PRIVMSG #esoteric :alarm < 1343175025 351836 :segorev!~cherep@217.172.23.118 PRIVMSG #esoteric :all sleep ? < 1343175043 261723 :segorev!~cherep@217.172.23.118 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think what only in russian night now < 1343175048 377676 :segorev!~cherep@217.172.23.118 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*russia < 1343175079 986642 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1343175086 85713 :segorev!~cherep@217.172.23.118 PRIVMSG #esoteric :david_werecat, hi < 1343175100 680931 :segorev!~cherep@217.172.23.118 PRIVMSG #esoteric :david_werecat, you hacker? < 1343175116 533824 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, and not really. < 1343175147 646243 :segorev!~cherep@217.172.23.118 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm.. it bad < 1343175555 314533 :segorev!~cherep@217.172.23.118 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1343175564 846808 :segorev!~cherep@217.172.23.118 JOIN :#esoteric < 1343176063 90854 :segorev!~cherep@217.172.23.118 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1343177613 294644 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg russian Sgeo!!!!!!! < 1343177711 82647 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :He could use some more patience… < 1343178502 581571 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-251-137.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1343178504 436117 :pikhq_!~pikhq@168-103-253-82.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1343179383 340374 :pikhq_!~pikhq@168-103-253-82.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1343179384 709462 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-147-252.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1343179653 592151 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :if he's a doctor, he could use some patients? < 1343179665 436085 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :blah blah pay shuns < 1343179861 169626 :MDude!~fyrc@67.232.230.96 JOIN :#esoteric < 1343180202 170442 :MDude!~fyrc@67.232.230.96 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1343180219 171195 :MDude!~fyrc@67.232.230.96 JOIN :#esoteric < 1343183250 863208 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-219-42.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1343183410 68257 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi, monqy < 1343183426 824339 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :russian monqy? < 1343183464 324128 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's russian monqy < 1343183549 428432 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :обезьяна with some phonetic changes? < 1343183575 895516 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> cycle "monqy inside another " < 1343183576 871795 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "monqy inside another monqy inside another monqy inside another monqy insid... < 1343183640 638122 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-219-42.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages? < 1343183640 962927 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: You have 20 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them. < 1343183673 711933 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :in soviet russia, monqy massages you < 1343183684 455501 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :an in soviet russia joke < 1343183685 910132 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :very funny shachaf < 1343183689 515323 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :where do you possibly get the material < 1343183690 773114 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can i learn < 1343183711 807962 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it's very complicated < 1343183748 916463 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you must be at least 23 dyalmunkts tall to make soviet russia jokes < 1343183772 425742 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :23 dyalmunkts = 1 year < 1343183886 292713 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh man, I could not stop laughing when I wrote “vive le plarimasthugl”, and there it is again X-D < 1343184116 224227 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1343184258 413167 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: what does it mean? < 1343184277 857218 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: It was a word that `words thought looked French. < 1343184502 970090 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems to have a plarimasthugl idea of french < 1343184554 981267 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1343184561 142500 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1343184747 148278 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1343184878 994920 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1343185301 732409 :ogrom!~nask@gprs-inet-65-117.elisa.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1343185953 670213 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1343186273 250 :ogrom!~nask@gprs-inet-65-117.elisa.ee QUIT :Quit: begone < 1343186342 371277 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/fiction/LensCap.html I wrote a short story. < 1343186373 179256 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does not mention plarimasthugl < 1343186382 233222 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tragically, no. < 1343187266 495169 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1343187364 69440 :MDude!~fyrc@67.232.230.96 NICK :Mdoze < 1343187369 88255 :Mdoze!~fyrc@67.232.230.96 NICK :MDoze < 1343187852 828868 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: it reminds me of this: http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-1074 < 1343188131 606268 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-153-7.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1343188138 568196 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-147-252.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1343188288 889313 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_> < 1343188290 27024 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :<_< < 1343188292 879749 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ohhhhhhh kay. < 1343188614 79305 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover.... dangit < 1343188621 506070 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to ask him when Red Dwarf starts to suck < 1343188695 992633 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-153-7.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'll know. < 1343189228 246022 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: http://codu.org/fiction/LensCap.html I wrote a short story. < 1343189283 893718 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-153-7.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: K. But first, ponies. < 1343189301 489355 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, good, you've got your priorities straight. < 1343189323 209993 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-153-7.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is IRCing while watching, so.
< 1343189553 325296 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: Also, don't forget to put Ponies in your Interwebs ( http://websplat.bitbucket.org/ ) < 1343189568 577317 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where'd the extra Kryten head come from? < 1343190215 896816 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-153-7.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*cough* < 1343190224 554340 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1343190224 900994 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-153-7.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :By your powers combined I am Captain Planet. Again. < 1343190298 634904 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you trying to tell me something? < 1343190305 646256 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-153-7.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah, more Gregor < 1343190320 813110 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, #esoteric! < 1343190329 102452 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: Why, are you up to the Season 2 opening or something? < 1343190333 224056 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-153-7.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Yes. < 1343190338 576994 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1343190339 67114 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you make a language that can evaluate algorithms as decribed in this? http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=5060147.PN.&OS=PN/5060147&RS=PN/5060147 < 1343190339 327199 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-153-7.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Specifically, just finished. < 1343190469 418348 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: Just wait for the S2 finale ;) < 1343190717 516535 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.O I know a girl with a name in that story < 1343190720 497107 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.211 JOIN :#esoteric < 1343190759 533609 :nvt!nvt@kapsi.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1343191034 188590 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo__: ? < 1343191059 896327 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, . < 1343191411 284753 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1343191899 324073 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-157-236.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1343192037 536578 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-153-7.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1343192055 465259 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1343192065 871733 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :does websplat ponies now? < 1343192086 285653 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup. < 1343192096 930567 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hrray! < 1343192153 683550 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1343192299 115363 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :how come dead with two hearts left? < 1343192325 745815 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you fall off the bottom of the screen, you die automatically. < 1343192329 755791 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Otherwise, shouldn't happen. < 1343192407 279404 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :who did graphix? < 1343192421 221195 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I stole them from Adventure Ponies, so Hasbro. < 1343192447 645973 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does applejack's tree accomplish < 1343192456 500219 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can climb it. < 1343192512 519582 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :pinkie appears to be overpowered < 1343192557 866885 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're not intended to be balanced, it's one-player. < 1343192591 759351 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you should get more points for winning with the weaker ponies < 1343192605 175531 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, ponyswitcher button to change at any time < 1343192608 385058 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and reset button < 1343192639 641407 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reset is nigh-on impossible, though for stupid reasons. Ponyswitching just isn't built into the system. < 1343192691 832659 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, the points don't matter ;) < 1343192716 657537 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, I now intend to make a ponified web based version of Worms, which will be multiplayer and balanced. Need time and graphical assets. < 1343192721 556296 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :never mind the ponies game < 1343192728 265188 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :make a web page version of Worms < 1343192733 529012 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1343192757 881367 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it has to not JUST be Worms. < 1343192764 587425 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think yo me and wryen are thinking identically < 1343192775 58453 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1343192775 510951 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wrote that message before seeingyour message about Worms < 1343192785 817184 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :afterwryen said antigravity pony was like worms < 1343192824 265613 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is wryen… a person? < 1343192831 814710 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1343192841 928100 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1343192843 70581 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :currently playing websplat with asscannon pony < 1343192868 706551 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I once played a color GameBoy game which is like breakout, but has both horizontal and vertical paddles, and color graphics, sound effects, all in only 1K ROM. The instructions say it even has a hidden movie. < 1343192882 747967 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :never mind antigrav pony < 1343192889 165246 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :asscannon pony is the most powerful < 1343192895 818960 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ohhhhhhh kay, so I'm goin' to sleep, but yeah, Worms at some point X-D < 1343192922 576200 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :where's the reddit thread for this < 1343192950 856015 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The smallest (and only) GameBoy game I made is 3K, but it is monochrome and has no sound effects, and has 256 levels in total so most of the ROM space is taken up by the level data. < 1343192961 573041 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: http://www.reddit.com/r/mylittlepony/comments/wrz8a/ponies_in_your_interwebs_ponies_on_any_web_page/ < 1343192966 74279 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It is a clone of StroQ but not ll the same levels) < 1343193355 523035 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, I have to know if this is a permanent cast change < 1343193394 960568 :nvt!nvt@kapsi.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1343193452 725923 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-157-236.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo__: ? < 1343193473 46395 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In season 7 < 1343193482 988361 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should just watch the next episode < 1343193568 476109 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-157-236.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you're *past* where it sucks < 1343193613 512738 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How would you do if you are the President of United States? (even if you do not live in United States) < 1343193648 741161 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :First thing I would do is try to figure out why this happen, especially since I am Canadian. < 1343193656 984595 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-157-236.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Poorly. I have no tolerance for bullshit. < 1343193973 502524 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What happened to the laugh track? < 1343194349 980687 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you think the Gregorian calendar is difficult to learn, has no sync with the moon, days of week do not stay in sync with days of the month, and does not accurately track the equinoxes and solstices? I think at least the last three is correct, although the third (about days of week) I think is not important and is perhaps better the way it is anyways. < 1343194991 486072 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-157-236.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Personally, I feel we should change the Earth's orbit so we can have decimal time. < 1343195059 333361 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I say we shouldn't mix up the solar system like that. < 1343195082 971965 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-157-236.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, if we're going to mix up the *solar system* I have a much better idea. < 1343195095 506842 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-157-236.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I guess it's Freeman Dyson's idea. < 1343195123 137972 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is what I would do if being President of United States: ... < 1343195138 71835 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :First I would wonder what happened and how I got there especially since I am Canadian. I would probably just make my own breakfast. I would ensure my own personal money is kept separate from the government's money. I would try to abolish the DMCA and overturn some court cases. I would try to abolish the patent office. ... < 1343195146 832472 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would try to make more so the government is not so secret from others. I would try to make it illegal to bribe the government. I would ask people to vote whether they want me as President of the United States, and what policies they want, so that we can have proper democracy. < 1343195147 276514 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1343195257 110257 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Freeman Dyson's idea to do what, specifically? < 1343195333 334871 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-157-236.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Dyson sphere. < 1343195389 563111 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, I looked it up on Wikipedia. < 1343196289 792170 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, why would you need to change the orbit to have decimal time? < 1343196305 350194 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-157-236.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo__: So you could have a round number of days in a solar year! < 1343196307 24637 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking maybe so you'd have some units equal in old and new time, but I don't quite see how it would work < 1343196307 695303 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1343196330 141373 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought you meant as in unit x is 10 unit y etc < 1343196345 992715 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, yeah, non-integer days in a year would still break that < 1343196455 69060 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not think it is much of a problem. You can still use units such as dekaseconds and kiloseconds and so on if you like to do so. To track moon, solstices, and equinoxes, you can use a horoscope (you can also view the moon with a telescope, although you would use an ephemeris if you wanted to calculate ahead of time). < 1343196461 696430 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you still shouldn't mix up the solar system. < 1343196494 789250 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And at least we do now have Gregorian calendar instead of the older Julian calendar; John Dee also wanted to have the Gregorian calendar despite hating the Pope. < 1343196743 667711 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1343196765 341417 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1343196773 465922 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can also use UNIX timestamps or Julian day numbers. < 1343196871 526936 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or use Planck times...... < 1343196915 45259 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: Finally! I proved the Twin Prime conjecture! The proof is *dies suddenly* < 1343197194 936911 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1343197587 931190 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1343198401 334379 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1343198784 550937 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1343198975 885293 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/oldnewthing/archive/2004/12/15/313250.aspx < 1343198988 443654 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@localtime kmc < 1343198989 164074 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for kmc is Wed Jul 25 02:50:37 2012 < 1343198991 545191 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I guess that's wrong. < 1343200526 271510 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1343200565 988935 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1343201237 152712 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1343201268 585542 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1343201626 424666 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :@localtime mroman < 1343201629 748399 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for mroman is Wed Jul 25 09:33:46 2012 < 1343201667 726136 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :@localtime lambdabot < 1343201668 108712 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I live on the internet, do you expect me to have a local time? < 1343201673 697869 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes! < 1343201956 75377 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: Your local time should obviously be that Swatch Internet Time. < 1343201960 71253 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "beat time". < 1343202015 47488 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's now @361 .beats, I believe. < 1343202063 766096 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's Internet because it's got @s and .s in it. < 1343202235 206349 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I have (in C++) a templated function which turns into the exact same code for two different instantiations, should I expect g++ to combine the generated code for them? < 1343202334 638605 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't expect that, but I guess miracles can always happen. < 1343202425 412816 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-157-236.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: gcc doesn't even merge identical jump tables. < 1343202476 546368 :AnotherTest!~tim@d51A4C7DD.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1343202481 13984 :AnotherTest!~tim@d51A4C7DD.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1343202481 165231 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1343202514 675468 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Microsoft's compiler apparently does it. :-( < 1343202549 609387 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spam quote of the day: "You must be very discrete in the area of confidentiality". < 1343202552 715166 :AnotherTest!~tim@d51A4C7DD.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: I'll put it online somewhere later today ;) < 1343202570 322594 :AnotherTest!~tim@d51A4C7DD.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :(github probably) < 1343202780 415300 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1343203058 614777 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah continuous confidentiality just won't do < 1343203112 419646 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Ministry of Silly Walks approves. http://gizmodo.com/5928737/this-must-be-the-stupidest-way-to-fire-one-of-the-worlds-deadliest-cannons < 1343203160 328142 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1343203192 293628 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1343203630 531479 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: http://eso.mroman.ch/cgi/burlesque.cgi?q={qu+in+e.} < 1343203636 451174 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now with fancy highlighting :) < 1343203815 629135 :AnotherTest!~tim@d51A4C7DD.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1343203826 260637 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://eso.mroman.ch/cgi/burlesque.cgi?q={%27c+5.6+7+%22HELLO%22} < 1343204174 736623 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1343204263 522262 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1343204397 147980 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-165-130.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1343204398 759382 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-165-130.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1343205057 639818 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-165-130.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::k Const < 1343205058 574845 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :* -> * -> * < 1343205063 6252 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-165-130.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::k (:<) < 1343205064 106114 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in scope: type constructor or class `:<' < 1343205069 294029 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-165-130.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::k Cofree < 1343205070 373797 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in scope: type constructor or class `Cofree' < 1343205074 933060 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-165-130.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::< < 1343205504 509569 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1343205544 589529 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1343206086 362692 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1343206117 429051 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1343206508 891177 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1343206526 24427 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D (:o) < 1343206533 232851 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::? < 1343206657 122845 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-165-130.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (:<) < 1343206658 263392 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in scope: data constructor `:<' < 1343206662 285792 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-165-130.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hayoo (:<) < 1343206662 437003 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1343206681 570936 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hoogle (:<) < 1343206681 930545 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Data.Sequence (:<) :: a -> Seq a -> ViewL a < 1343206703 426779 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-165-130.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not the :< I am looking for < 1343206730 873448 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what they all say < 1343206745 288083 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-165-130.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hackage free < 1343206745 439182 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://hackage.haskell.org/package/free < 1343206759 109978 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-165-130.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Control.Comonad.Free < 1343206762 453859 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-165-130.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Cofree < 1343206774 780208 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-165-130.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was wondering if lambdabot had it < 1343206945 608892 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh. < 1343206964 667243 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :The cookbook is finished :) < 1343206969 990580 :AnotherTest!~tim@d51A4C7DD.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay! < 1343206971 262461 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not finnished this time. < 1343207157 326503 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@078088172191.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1343207168 151491 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://mroman.ch/burlesque/cookbook/ < 1343207195 114344 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warning: Content could be satiric. < 1343207238 913089 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or whatever the right englisch word for that is. < 1343207248 297399 :Deewiant!~deewiant@109.75.188.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: Typo: "stock" instead of "stack" < 1343207279 95239 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oops :D. Thanks. < 1343207396 703845 :AnotherTest!~tim@d51A4C7DD.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: typo "list of value" should probably be "list of values" (in Understanding Blocks) < 1343207403 881034 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1343207408 262099 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: is "Mikee" a finnish first name < 1343207411 262308 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: you may also answer < 1343207442 556510 :Deewiant!~deewiant@109.75.188.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Not as far as I know. < 1343207452 30216 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you < 1343207455 822327 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :however i did not solicit your response < 1343207458 671580 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-165-130.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, you are neither fizzie nor oklopol! < 1343207473 800528 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :however i will accept it anyway < 1343207479 144928 :Deewiant!~deewiant@109.75.188.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was just making a comment, it was not intended as a replacement for fizzie/oklopol < 1343207503 824093 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: the alleged Mikee points me to http://www.nordicnames.de/wiki/Mikee < 1343207523 344455 :Deewiant!~deewiant@109.75.188.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The statistics are descriptive < 1343207526 138658 :Deewiant!~deewiant@109.75.188.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I must go now < 1343207528 337468 :Deewiant!~deewiant@109.75.188.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--> < 1343207568 223401 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: he claims it is short for mikael < 1343207594 687112 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is also a type in "compares pops". Fixed that. < 1343207618 270249 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :*typo < 1343207624 511949 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I make typos in spelling typo :( < 1343207637 993356 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :The typo in the typo would make a great movie title. < 1343207693 430773 :AnotherTest!~tim@d51A4C7DD.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: what other features do you plan on adding? < 1343207872 105189 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :More builtins < 1343207877 284453 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially string manipulation < 1343207881 392574 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and golfing stuff :) < 1343207908 743594 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then I'll try to get my language accepted for golf.shinh.org :) < 1343208027 6294 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1343208064 676442 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not planning on adding actual features < 1343208080 318959 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the mistake I did with Stlang. < 1343208091 45092 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has useless features like OOP and stuff ;) < 1343208102 31541 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, useless. Depends of course. < 1343208113 675039 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it made the language bloat :) < 1343208155 884666 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some colleagues of me dared me to add OOP in stlang :D < 1343208320 79360 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/66953/golfscript-in-codegolf-on-so-cheating-or-not :D:D:D < 1343208332 554499 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I think, that Golfscript is unuseful, and it's not a language at all." < 1343208343 672226 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It's a kind of Ruby library (proof - http://www.golfscript.com/golfscript/golfscript.rb)," < 1343208348 331670 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :OMG, HE proof! < 1343208387 286294 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1343208410 819269 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh no, I'm too late. < 1343208419 989444 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elliott hates me :( < 1343208428 695608 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, you can search for Finnish given-name statistics at http://verkkopalvelu.vrk.fi/Nimipalvelu/default.asp?L=3 < 1343208474 770476 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't heard of anyone called Mikee, though there are very many Mikas and Mikaels. < 1343208522 369212 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also some Miikas and Miikkas. < 1343208570 379876 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1343208579 928138 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I hear it was short for Mikael. < 1343208583 144775 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I don't hate people. < 1343208586 31432 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure some Mikael could have a nickname "Mikee", even though it sounds pretty weird. < 1343208609 666019 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nobody has it as an official name according to the gummint, though. < 1343208627 209966 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think while I'm waiting to get my license renewed today, I'll finish up my new esolang interpreter. < 1343208631 128790 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :and write up a spec. < 1343208632 11823 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Mikke" is a name that exists, also. < 1343208643 647723 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe read a book. < 1343208645 485092 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. < 1343208658 956809 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :About 360s Mikkes listed in the Registry. < 1343208668 465945 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe it's the System. < 1343208673 804553 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Population Information System. < 1343208687 268296 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1343208782 392042 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I may or may not have taken the concept of dupdog and modified it to the point that it's turing complete, without feeling really cheap. < 1343208962 952306 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-165-130.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1343208976 955316 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1343209025 903627 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric < 1343209753 647163 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-153-199.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1343209760 901247 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-157-236.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1343210437 313430 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-165-130.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1343210845 796974 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ya hahahahah < 1343210857 617059 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-165-130.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1343210878 181088 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :<-- possibly over excited about dupdog? < 1343211052 903712 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-219-42.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1343211694 547773 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-219-42.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1343211833 847727 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-165-130.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, expanding on what I have previously written < 1343211856 473564 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-165-130.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Many monads can be made using the base monad Foo a b c = Foo (a -> b) < 1343211867 887729 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-165-130.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Const a = Foo () a < 1343211874 914294 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster JOIN :#esoteric < 1343211877 758368 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-165-130.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Empty = Foo () () < 1343211883 599304 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-165-130.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Foo needs a better name) < 1343211913 505860 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-165-130.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Actually, it's stupid) < 1343212293 338798 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, what is Foo? < 1343212307 460966 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-165-130.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :newtype Foo a b c = Foo (a -> b) < 1343212315 772671 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1343212998 583962 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1343213066 279116 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1343213467 364555 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i like math a little bit. it's always pleasant to see how things can be more fully understood by trying to approach them more mathematically < 1343213698 702684 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh.. < 1343213717 360775 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but now i will say the part that will get people fuming < 1343213745 212912 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i often wonder what is it which someone like gauss does so well exactly < 1343213794 315501 :AnotherTest!~tim@d51A4C7DD.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :his brains I think < 1343213806 975204 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know it's not something you can acquire at a gym, and it's something which money will only slightly help until a threshhold < 1343213829 883249 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Isn't that the definition of Void? < 1343213847 175086 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-165-130.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the definition of Void is "data Void", I think < 1343213871 459614 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm no @() () < 1343213881 608133 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just for the sake of consistency, i mean that after some arbitrary figure such as $500,000 then any more money won't really aid in a persons education < 1343213884 279255 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: And it's data Void = Void Void < 1343213888 786538 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it's not < 1343213895 593592 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-165-130.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That defeats the point of Void < 1343213898 676899 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's "newtype Void = Void Void" < 1343213898 828425 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or Void !Void < 1343213905 51921 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is equivalent to "data Void" in haskell 2010 < 1343213910 748301 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the latter is not possible in haskell 98 < 1343213939 511445 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-165-130.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The point of Void is it has zero possible values. < 1343213941 795245 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's not simply a matter of having a powerful memory, or is it? exactly how far one can get on the strength of memory alone is unclear to me < 1343213949 420650 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-165-130.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Foo () () a has one possible value < 1343213952 389213 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-165-130.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Foo id < 1343213972 930163 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i personally don't believe that memory, no matter how powerful can make you gauss < 1343214135 516296 :AnotherTest!~tim@d51A4C7DD.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21: maybe it's just genetics? However, I'm not sure whether his brains have a different physical structure. < 1343214146 859437 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1343214250 101013 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: Well, there's the fact that they work with positrons... < 1343214270 588515 :AnotherTest!~tim@d51A4C7DD.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but is that the reason? < 1343214282 488559 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a different physical structure, at least. < 1343214288 304904 :AnotherTest!~tim@d51A4C7DD.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :ititdus21: I don't think the speed at which you can remember / calculate things is that important. < 1343214303 972382 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(At least according to the so-called "Positronic Gauss" theory.) < 1343214317 242818 :AnotherTest!~tim@d51A4C7DD.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's the speed at which you can connect to things with each other. < 1343214350 659041 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1343214365 958952 :AnotherTest!~tim@d51A4C7DD.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :no idea why asimov decided that the brains would have to be Positronic too < 1343214400 614913 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-165-130.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Picnic time, bye < 1343214402 343873 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-165-130.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1343214418 10453 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh, ask elliott < 1343214444 559674 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: I think officially because it sounded more sci-fi. (At least his intro to one of the short story collections said as much.) < 1343214534 735709 :AnotherTest!~tim@d51A4C7DD.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: # something (\d+) := $1 something < 1343214534 886975 :AnotherTest!~tim@d51A4C7DD.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :something 10 < 1343214547 245906 :AnotherTest!~tim@d51A4C7DD.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that becomes 10 something) < 1343214568 133166 :AnotherTest!~tim@d51A4C7DD.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'll make a git after I had lunch) < 1343214655 177529 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(now i'm getting really offensive) ok put another way what i am asking is, whether math is like a million monkeys typing, and occasionally one of them has reams of breakthroughs and things named after him/her < 1343214685 919320 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.211 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1343214762 820141 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that just doesn't make sense since it implies the monkey didn't merely get lucky like a lottery winner < 1343214795 432732 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but rather like all the lottery winners had eventually won the jackpot, say > 5 times in their life < 1343214849 667482 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like somehow they are defying any sort of odds < 1343214947 618312 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it that the system can't handle too many such people? < 1343215095 698231 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe there is a decreasing amount of things to discover, and an increasing number of people working to discover them < 1343215356 167359 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric : I think it's the speed at which you can connect to things with each other. -- is this related to art? < 1343215567 418202 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that constraining connections to those where a logical connection is clear can be a problem < 1343215638 794710 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then i'm wacked out of my mind < 1343215640 41816 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: Cool. < 1343216022 366585 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PART #esoteric :"bye, have a beautiful time" < 1343216527 576722 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1343216988 291170 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster QUIT :Changing host < 1343216988 479438 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1343217423 445626 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1343217817 715907 :AnotherTest!~tim@d51A4C7DD.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21: maybe. Although there are many forms of art (I think thinking can be an art, it doesn't have to be manual) < 1343217873 68285 :AnotherTest!~tim@d51A4C7DD.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh he left < 1343218106 595480 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finished season 7 < 1343218201 813971 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1343218552 360516 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 JOIN :#esoteric < 1343218600 72219 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1343218691 568866 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, if i have a repeating sequence say 56777..., what happens if i try to say 1234(56777...)(56777...)(56777...)... < 1343218699 733067 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-60.dataart.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1343218755 396723 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-122-243.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1343218828 350462 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1343218833 225234 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably there is no simple answer to this that i would need to know < 1343218859 782532 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dear < 1343218867 86078 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it's a generalization of, 12333...4 < 1343218899 402519 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is missing the whole point of the ... < 1343219237 379977 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1343219260 993562 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk JOIN :#esoteric < 1343219610 710593 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, what happened? < 1343219621 261179 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21 started talking < 1343219625 730996 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1343219639 508680 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fortunately he stopped < 1343219714 300030 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1343220183 976727 :Deewiant!~deewiant@109.75.188.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1343220550 357664 :Deewiant!~deewiant@109.75.188.190 JOIN :#esoteric < 1343221304 487950 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1343222015 597755 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1343222039 806993 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Deewiant: Hey, what's a simple way to set up an FD (from a BSD socket later but a file now) with non-blocking reads? < 1343222147 663471 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1343222276 296791 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :long flags = fcntl(fd, F_GETFL); fcntl(fd, F_SETFL, flags | O_NONBLOCK); or some-such, maybe. < 1343222318 805201 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: :/ < 1343222321 653867 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: What about on, uh, Windows? < 1343222333 280363 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Isn't there a way to open a file in non-blocking mode?) < 1343222358 292956 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1343222362 838200 :AnotherTest!~tim@d51A4C7DD.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: https://github.com/AnotherTest/HELP < 1343222369 302101 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, that was the "turn it on post-creation" approach. You can | O_NONBLOCK to the second argument of open(2), too. < 1343222385 717041 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not so sure about Windows, though. < 1343222400 37080 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Thanks. < 1343222409 61502 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll wait for Deewiant for Windows since didn't he do mcmap's Windows socket stuff? < 1343222414 384681 :AnotherTest!~tim@d51A4C7DD.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: link with libboost_regex and -std=c++11 < 1343222601 924884 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: unsigned long yes = 1; ioctlsocket(s, FIONBIO, &yes); is what you'd have done in some winsock versions, but that place is a bit of a mess. (I don't think sockets and files are quite so interchangeable in Windows.) < 1343222677 347458 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, OK, this should be, uh. < 1343222680 839804 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Easy? I... guess. < 1343222701 918283 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(According to infallible SO, before POSIX standardized fcntl O_NONBLOCK, there used to be ioctl FIONBIO and fcntl O_NDELAY to do the same thing, with all kinds of amusing incompatibilities and discrepancies between them. < 1343222703 802887 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: (And is there a way to figure out "reading from this file wouldn't block" without actually reading from it?) < 1343222744 37359 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can of course poll/select it, if you mean the "figure out for the very next read call" way. < 1343222749 226783 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a select for sockets in winsock. < 1343222772 74630 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And of course Windows-API ways to do it too, presumably. < 1343222785 264385 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Ugh, well. I guess poll/select would work. < 1343222789 448757 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So heavyweight for a simple check though. < 1343222814 33582 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :If only there was a poll1 or such. < 1343222925 762234 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's an fcntl to ask for the number of bytes readable < 1343222926 889006 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1343222938 271007 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe it was an ioctl < 1343222979 481040 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds more awful. :( < 1343222987 477630 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Socket APIs will return WSA errnos, rather than the standard ones (e.g. WSAEWOULDBLOCK, although Windows also has EWOULDBLOCK). Except when they don't. Refer to MSDN." Lovable. < 1343223111 775491 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :they would've been better off not even trying to emulate those unix apis < 1343223151 664702 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Currently it just makes people go all "they're *so* close I think if I squeeze a bit I can just use the same code". < 1343223168 354627 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Can you fix this codebase? < 1343223171 701081 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It uses event polling and oh. < 1343223215 751110 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: I wouldn't count on FIONREAD to (a) work on Windows' socket-ioctl-alike or (b) work on all kinds of fds in general, anyway. < 1343223266 829139 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, what do I know: ioctlsocket in fact does do FIONREAD. < 1343223313 275285 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Might still be better with a select.) < 1343223355 260292 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I can just use read directly into a global buffer. Ugh. Ugh. UGH. < 1343223451 424329 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guh, it's SO HOT. < 1343223483 191052 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Us nordics should say out of these kinds of southern desert countries such as e.g. Belgium. < 1343223490 677647 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like 28 Celsoids. < 1343223535 225130 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's about degrees here. < 1343223536 348142 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :WTF are you talking about, the average summer high in Helsinki is like 22 degrees. < 1343223549 749312 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Yeah, and this is like six more. < 1343223552 367816 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HOW DO YOU LIVE < 1343223567 372952 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: The high today in this town is 37C. < 1343223583 725933 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, are you a magma being < 1343223614 452646 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Actually for the previous three weeks it's been around 12-18 degrees and mostly rainy here, it's just this particular week; and to be honest, there's often a single hot week in a Finnish summer too.) < 1343223663 149044 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Two-digit temperatures that start with 3 (let alone 4) are scary. < 1343223667 630367 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you all sit in your saunas eagerly awaiting the Hot Week < 1343223682 896934 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think we just sit around complaining. < 1343223692 689252 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Oh, it's been such a miserable summer." < 1343223696 776082 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Two-digit temperatures that start with 3!? Isn't that like above the melting point of humans? < 1343223697 82973 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you sure you aren't british < 1343223709 91316 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, but not magma beings. < 1343223725 681200 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Their melting point is well into the high 50s. < 1343223730 373906 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :south europeans are magma beings < 1343223756 251395 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, does anyone know a tool to find differences between sets of files? With that I mean if I have two sets of files (A and B) each containing several files with some differences I want to find the set of differences such that the difference is not a difference of the files within set A or B but only between them < 1343223771 209237 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and the files are binary files, so standard diff and such are pretty useless < 1343223788 91403 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is currently +49 degrees Celsius in Kut, Irak. < 1343223820 801899 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The (Finnish) weather site I use has this handy "hot and cold spots around the world" info-box. < 1343223823 818476 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is like +27 C here, it is terrible < 1343223832 189698 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you can be all "I'm glad I'm not there". < 1343223916 618663 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, does anyone know a good way to do that sort of comparison? < 1343223925 713615 :MDoze!~fyrc@67.232.230.96 NICK :MDude < 1343223981 630235 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I'm not sure what the question is, but maybe you want to e.g. take the md5sum of each file and compare the sets of sums of the sets of files < 1343224010 592207 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, I mean "I'm not sure what the question is, but maybe you want to e.g. google it" < 1343224021 977321 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not entirely sure what you wanted either. All differences between A1-B1, A1-B2, A1-B3, ..., A1-Bm, A2-B1, A2-B2, ..., An-B1, ..., An-Bm where |A|=n and |B|=m? < 1343224044 96219 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's 19 here, and it's a warm day. < 1343224066 706378 :AnotherTest!~tim@d51A4C7DD.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: that's actually extraordinary; we normally have much lower tempratures < 1343224089 558184 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: So I've heard. It's so extraordinary some of the people here are going camping. < 1343224114 764323 :AnotherTest!~tim@d51A4C7DD.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :global warming! < 1343224121 564855 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: if what you want is to know how similar the aarch64 (arm64) code is to the arm code in the linux kernel, that comparison has already been done < 1343224154 947994 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :10-day gue.. uh, I mean, predictions suggest that Friday's the last warm day. < 1343224163 267242 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Coincidentally, that's when we're going home. < 1343224228 311980 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest, hardly the globe. < 1343224249 455028 :AnotherTest!~tim@d51A4C7DD.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm leaving for vacation Friday :) < 1343224264 132936 :AnotherTest!~tim@d51A4C7DD.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: true < 1343224267 990976 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dreamt about having a discussion where someone claimed the days of the week were sunday, monday, ..., sunday < 1343224289 806768 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. 8 day weeks with two days having the same name < 1343224323 279708 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sunday_1 and Sunday_2. < 1343224338 428445 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sunday and Sunday'. < 1343224376 276838 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It sounds quite confusing, especially since the Sunday of one week is right adjacent to a Sunday' of another. < 1343224397 453656 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's possible that they meant that each sunday is in two weeks at the same time < 1343224415 109919 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :or more likely, they were idiots < 1343224443 762741 :AnotherTest!~tim@d51A4C7DD.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :So would, after a year, Sunday be Sunday'? < 1343224446 237076 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: perhaps you are tired of having days and months named after celestial beings and gods who don't seem to get discussed often lately < 1343224447 801763 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, they were Romans. < 1343224464 106450 :AnotherTest!~tim@d51A4C7DD.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/Sunday be Sunday'/Sunday' be Sunday/ < 1343224485 426647 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Romans had 8-day weeks but counted inclusively so they said the weekly market was every ninth day. < 1343224486 988228 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*) < 1343224508 780998 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the song "sunday bloody sunday" is in fact about a mixup over the two sundays < 1343224624 797673 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1343224635 152142 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :While "Sundae, bloody sundae" is the lamentation of a dessertmaker. < 1343224648 933604 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or possibly a mishap with a blender. < 1343224650 580780 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Either-or. < 1343224658 817681 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, both < 1343224667 29904 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the dessertmaker's mishap with the blender < 1343224708 52081 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that the suicide song? No, that's Gloomy Sunday. < 1343224821 458534 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the chorus of sunday bloody sunday is funny in swedish < 1343224850 104187 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sounds like they're singing "little negros in the sand" in a southern-swedish accent < 1343225036 11562 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, it's also the cold stone day today. < 1343225060 950324 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :a ceremonial freezing of magma people? < 1343225150 733384 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :A Finnish folklore that today Jaakko casts a cold stone to the sea (and/or your local lake), causing it to cool down, signifying that summer's about to start ending, and the swimming season's going to be over. < 1343225158 303906 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, olsner: Y'know, although 37C is a typical high in the summer, -23C is a typical low in the winter. < 1343225179 126743 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks to calendarical confusion, the day's a bit earlier than it should. < 1343225183 959888 :hughfdjackson!~hugh@host-92-30-228-187.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1343225191 53560 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Muahahahaha < 1343225193 708161 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome hughfdjackson < 1343225194 859628 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Must be inconvenient for you magma beings. < 1343225198 133664 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :hughfdjackson: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1343225206 843387 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: It really is! < 1343225214 198459 :hughfdjackson!~hugh@host-92-30-228-187.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D cheers < 1343225466 868946 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-60.dataart.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1343225852 417783 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1343225904 726801 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there any evidence that the universe isn't a closed system? < 1343225923 888907 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. heat death might not occur. < 1343226084 631789 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Phantom_Hoover, olsner: Y'know, although 37C is a typical high in the summer, -23C is a typical low in the winter. < 1343226094 596144 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, that's just wierd. < 1343226097 132309 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*weird < 1343226104 72881 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :magmar will rise again... < 1343226132 51160 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ /s/magmar will rise again.../magmar magmar/ < 1343226179 673407 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the itch king of magmar < 1343226263 176482 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric : :3 "According to IGN, its English name is derived from the word "magma"." < 1343226297 867118 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :who the hell wrote that < 1343226308 299442 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have to see what other edits they made < 1343226359 94209 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't bother, it always turns out to be some IP. < 1343226532 503300 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :User:New Age Retro Hippie < 1343226561 361983 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just think it's funny... it's probably not contrary to fact < 1343226595 992488 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol... goals.. 1. Create articles for every character in Punch-Out!! for Wii. < 1343226657 357608 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks for all the work you did in making Rugrats: Search for Reptar a certified "Good Article"! Your work is much appreciated. < 1343226686 476260 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Impressive. < 1343226849 768819 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is "repmat" a thing in some thing? < 1343226858 328264 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's a Matlab function, but I mean otherwise.) < 1343228420 618660 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: hey, how do you feel about forming a sort of Agoran partnership? < 1343228448 343548 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll say "Machiavelli agrees that from now until further notice, all messages published by Sgeo are also published by Machiavelli", and then you'll say something similar. < 1343228512 731928 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"if i am sgeo, i transfer all my possessions to tswett then deregister" < 1343228536 397154 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd state that as "Sgeo transfers all his possessions to Machiavelli and then deregisters." < 1343228566 936849 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Naturally, it doesn't work unless we trust each other not to be dicks. < 1343228769 533195 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know I trust anyone with a good, solid name like Machiavelli to not be a dick. < 1343229727 757070 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-219-42.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1343231164 27026 :hughfdjackson!~hugh@host-92-30-228-187.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1343232091 363808 :soundnfury!~edward@109.176.211.127 QUIT :Quit: Time < 1343232668 100905 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1343234460 997753 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric : Vorpal: I'm not sure what the question is, but maybe you want to e.g. take the md5sum of each file and compare the sets of sums of the sets of files <-- I want to find specific offsets in the files for the differences < 1343234471 454478 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric : Vorpal: if what you want is to know how similar the aarch64 (arm64) code is to the arm code in the linux kernel, that comparison has already been done <-- nope < 1343234501 728458 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, basically I want to reverse engineer which byte in a binary file contains a specific flag < 1343234508 739635 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 NICK :honest_niccolo < 1343234513 479502 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are however always going to be other differences between the different files < 1343234519 900736 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus I need to filter those out < 1343234525 138167 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :and just find the one I'm interested in < 1343234579 840501 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus I would have two sets of files, one set with the flag set, and one set with it unset. There would in all cases be a number of other differences between the files. So I want to find the byte that differs /between/ the sets but not /inside/ each set < 1343234593 748951 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, ^ < 1343234596 537127 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How can you find out such a flag? < 1343234610 232128 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What kind of flag is this anyways? < 1343234612 531643 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :(sorry for going afk, got an important call and have to leave immediately) < 1343234636 516742 :honest_niccolo!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i am ...ST_NIC... < 1343234636 962383 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric : How can you find out such a flag? <-- that is what I'm asking < 1343234638 141058 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Do you mean all the files are of the same size or what? < 1343234644 308810 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :honest_niccolo: me 2 < 1343234644 550618 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, oh yes indeed they are < 1343234655 422872 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, the file is basically a huge struct as far as I can tell < 1343234663 635974 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric : What kind of flag is this anyways? <-- boolean < 1343234692 925305 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, what is it measuring? < 1343234702 606957 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk JOIN :#esoteric < 1343234709 384498 :honest_niccolo!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 NICK :good_guy_machiav < 1343234713 837271 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, if a specific feature is enabled or not. < 1343234745 884402 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, you know, what I want to do is kind of similar to those "find cheat" features in zsnes and so on, except on binary files < 1343234759 465425 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, the same sort of algorithm would work < 1343234815 619202 :good_guy_machiav!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 NICK :itidus21 < 1343234819 667273 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it would at least be an approximation, if you fed to the algorithm always one file from set A and then set B alternatingly. < 1343234850 90900 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes those kind of cheat finder is one idea < 1343234875 568717 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, hm? Do all the files in set a and select "same value", Do the same for set b. Then look for "differs" between those sets < 1343234878 111989 :AnotherTest!~tim@d51A4C7DD.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: # while\s+(.*)do(.*)od := {\2} {\1} w! < 1343234878 272627 :AnotherTest!~tim@d51A4C7DD.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :# \n := < 1343234878 423922 :AnotherTest!~tim@d51A4C7DD.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :# \s{2,} := < 1343234878 424097 :AnotherTest!~tim@d51A4C7DD.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :50 < 1343234878 424215 :AnotherTest!~tim@d51A4C7DD.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :while 5 .> do < 1343234878 575083 :AnotherTest!~tim@d51A4C7DD.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric : ^^ < 1343234878 575249 :AnotherTest!~tim@d51A4C7DD.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1 .- < 1343234879 422340 :AnotherTest!~tim@d51A4C7DD.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :od < 1343234893 589339 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, anyway it is fairly easy to write the software to do this, I just wondered if anything existed already < 1343234913 255336 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I would probably write it in erlang btw) < 1343235061 569347 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least it would make it dead trivial to adapt the algorithm if it turned out to be part of a bitfield < 1343235163 951662 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doing all files in set X with "same value" will only find you the offsets that are "fixed" throughout set X. It doesn't really sound like comparing those lists directly will help all that much. You want to find the masks of fixed bytes, take the & of them, and then considering only bytes in that find the ones in which there is a difference for each pair (a,b) with a in A, b in B. < 1343235204 394880 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, well I expect the byte I'm looking for to be fixed in each set. < 1343235219 647627 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk PART #esoteric :"Leaving..." < 1343235226 508236 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, but you also want to consider only bytes that always differ when you look across-set. < 1343235241 444206 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course I don't know what your files are like. < 1343235284 646707 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :binary blobs < 1343235288 434796 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PART #esoteric :"fungot?" < 1343235298 28517 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, whether just finding the fixed bytes is enough. < 1343235301 725635 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, anyway I'm surprised this sort of software doesn't exist. It would seem like the ideal way to find stuff like which byte contains the flag for "this phone has a locked SIM". Which is kind of similar to what I'm trying to find. < 1343235334 678145 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But if files of set A contain A000000 and A000111, and set B has B000000 and B000111, finding the fixed bytes of both sets would give you a mask like 1111000 while you really only want 1000000. < 1343235348 872643 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin NICK :scampumpkin < 1343235383 635115 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, err why are you not comparing the values when comparing between the sets? < 1343235408 637244 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need to use "differs" for the between-set comparsion < 1343235415 319529 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :comparison* < 1343235552 125851 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just use two equally long binary strings in memory for each set. One is the data of the first file, the other is the mask. For each file in the same set you compare and update the mask. Then when you compare between sets you compare again but this time you instead looks for where they differ rather than for where they are the same < 1343235579 10893 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that is what I would do. < 1343235586 349517 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just didn't really catch your "differs" thing. < 1343235617 365639 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :the most elegant way would be to consider each new file a new set, and then simply offer two merging operations between set: "mask-same" and "mask-different" < 1343235748 157350 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :if we do this bitwise, then updating the mask is very easy. If we assign 0 to mean masked out (thus the mask starts out at all 1) then the new mask becomes (for "must be the same" case): newmask = m1 & m2 & ~(d1 ^ d2), no? < 1343235760 648334 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :where m is mask, and d is data < 1343235786 69876 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you would remove the bitwise not for the "must be different" case obviously < 1343235803 914292 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love bitwise operations < 1343235813 336373 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what m1 and m2 are. < 1343235824 630127 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :mask from old set 1 and mask from old set 2 < 1343235829 468578 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :same for d = data < 1343235860 929208 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, since there is no point is not generalising both operations to not work between sets < 1343235868 277524 :scampumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin NICK :copumpkin < 1343235934 552255 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, okay, but you can't sensibly define the "new data" for the "must be different" case. < 1343235955 398477 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :well okay < 1343235979 874850 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1343236004 527797 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, actually the data is then meaningless since we know that that bit is either 0 or 1. < 1343236013 486903 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could add a third mask to represent this I guess < 1343236043 413372 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't see the point for my usage < 1343236453 98345 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION grumbles about having to use e2fsck -c -c
< 1343236509 277938 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro, -c -c? < 1343236552 509272 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: rtfm < 1343236584 290532 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro, my manual only says what happens if you use it once < 1343236596 943397 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro, so that doesn't help at all < 1343236606 958176 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: do a non-destructive read-write test < 1343236612 367733 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1343236622 348541 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :to find stealth bad block < 1343236624 38345 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :*blocks < 1343236654 190357 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Your man page really doesn't have the "If this option is specified twice, then the bad block scan will be done using a non-destructive read-write test." bit? < 1343236701 604785 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, nope < 1343236709 75907 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a pretty crummy man page. < 1343236711 969377 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1343236740 904577 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, it actually seems they cut out a bit because that section ends with "If this option is specified" < 1343236747 841281 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess it is a bug fixed in newer versions < 1343236756 102187 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :this laptop is running a pretty old distro < 1343236773 433681 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was from Ubuntu 10.10. < 1343236780 186763 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, that is very new < 1343236781 828852 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "perfect ten", I think it was called. < 1343236786 641527 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not very new. < 1343236786 792665 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, I have 10.04 < 1343236799 512055 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, it's just six months newer. < 1343236846 548467 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't really know why they didn't stick with the LTS, but then also didn't keep updating things.) < 1343236863 306935 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Though they do have a 12.04 installation rolling out, I believe.) < 1343236885 146646 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :who are they < 1343236903 157830 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie's evil overlord < 1343236908 633088 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :People at regular-work. < 1343236933 627217 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, Finland then? < 1343236937 30602 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1343236947 32076 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's see what they have at temporary-work. < 1343236960 506640 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except I don't remember what the workstation was called. < 1343236989 555036 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :CentOS 6.3, apparently. < 1343237020 68182 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's very new, in fact the newest, apparently. < 1343237035 940564 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is it with youtube and not the "buffered up until this point" marker not matching how far it actually buffered < 1343237078 702704 :soundnfury!~edward@109.176.211.127 JOIN :#esoteric < 1343237080 27659 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what it is with YouTube and the frame-thumbnail-for-the-seekbar that randomly seems to sometimes be there, sometimes not. < 1343237083 406056 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Videos are like WiFi. < 1343237096 434237 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, I think it is there for older videos < 1343237103 992621 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess they don't generate that straight away < 1343237110 142526 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :They defy all mortal comprehension when examined too closely, despite being apparently simple. < 1343237121 927954 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, wifi is in no way simple < 1343237131 225951 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe they generate them only when sufficiently many people have bothered to seek the video in question. < 1343237141 41478 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :not even apparently < 1343237164 60429 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :also this video sometimes just breaks, stops loading < 1343237171 968417 :soundnfury!~edward@109.176.211.127 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You want "defies mortal comprehension"? Try getting CPU frequency scaling to behave < 1343237173 757251 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, well it certainly isn't obvious that your connection's stability is going to be incredibly variable for no apparent reason. < 1343237194 848192 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, well, that follows from the SNR < 1343237209 184752 :soundnfury!~edward@109.176.211.127 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION has just spent about an hour on it, and "cpufreq-info" still doesn't work
< 1343237270 696725 :soundnfury!~edward@109.176.211.127 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I still don't know whether the bug's in the kernel, the module, the bios, or whether I just have a shit and borken CPU < 1343237272 932754 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :soundnfury, what CPU? < 1343237277 780300 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :what system in general < 1343237305 771406 :soundnfury!~edward@109.176.211.127 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Celeron. Linux (3.2.0-3-686-pae). MSI CR500X laptop < 1343237312 251598 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1343237319 167352 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :no idea about that, maybe it is too old < 1343237324 682236 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :does the CPU even support it? < 1343237339 211615 :soundnfury!~edward@109.176.211.127 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Celeron T3500 < 1343237357 519689 :soundnfury!~edward@109.176.211.127 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure, but there was a BIOS option to enable it < 1343237371 497998 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds like acpi-cpufreq then. < 1343237374 808073 :soundnfury!~edward@109.176.211.127 PRIVMSG #esoteric :any idea which of the /proc/cpuinfo flags might indicate it < 1343237390 532740 :soundnfury!~edward@109.176.211.127 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: acpi-cpufreq wouldn't load (No such device). But, speedstep-lib did < 1343237418 939796 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it does the speedstep thing, then. Though module loading isn't really proof positive. < 1343237513 902705 :soundnfury!~edward@109.176.211.127 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tru dat < 1343237530 107297 :soundnfury!~edward@109.176.211.127 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the BIOS option was (iirc) called speedstep too, < 1343237535 660352 :soundnfury!~edward@109.176.211.127 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so unless the BIOS is overly generic < 1343237564 790587 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.notebookcheck.nl/Intel-Celeron-Dual-Core-T3500-Notebook-Processor.48260.0.html through Google Translate sounds somewhat negative. "The Celeron T3500 does not have support for Enhanced SpeedStep (and other technologies), the average power consumption is so, however, higher, lower battery life as a result." < 1343237589 952054 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe they have a real English version too. < 1343237598 680214 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Geolocation seems to have given me a .nl thing. < 1343237639 55205 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, http://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Celeron-Dual-Core-T3500-Notebook-Processor.37117.0.html isn't any better English. < 1343237643 901525 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that's what they claim. < 1343237658 493522 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about the intel data sheet page < 1343237664 156003 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ark.intel.com or something iirc < 1343237667 78625 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's http://ark.intel.com/products/42104 < 1343237669 837584 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's silent on it. < 1343237693 668955 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :soundnfury, looks like you may be out of luck < 1343237721 913769 :soundnfury!~edward@109.176.211.127 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, just found out that "Enhanced SpeedStep" is cpuinfo flag "est", which isn't here < 1343237736 860703 :soundnfury!~edward@109.176.211.127 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, so in other words My Laptop Is Shite < 1343237739 124074 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: wrong < 1343237743 54157 :soundnfury!~edward@109.176.211.127 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I already knew that < 1343237760 867981 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :soundnfury, well obviously.... Anything with a Celeron is super-old anyway < 1343237765 817529 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :and thus shit in modern terms < 1343237784 611954 :soundnfury!~edward@109.176.211.127 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was cheap < 1343237793 317693 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :soundnfury, how long have you had it? < 1343237810 644222 :soundnfury!~edward@109.176.211.127 PRIVMSG #esoteric :umm, year and a half I think < 1343237816 612565 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm okay < 1343237823 336696 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1343237827 242868 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :bought it used then I guess < 1343237841 313780 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1343237846 118403 :soundnfury!~edward@109.176.211.127 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my previous laptop developed an intermittent fault due to (we think) a hairline crack on the mobo < 1343237856 516229 :soundnfury!~edward@109.176.211.127 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, new from Novatech < 1343237866 324056 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Celeron T3500 launch date is listed as Q3'10, that's less than two years ago. < 1343237867 75803 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Celeron new 1.5 years ago? < 1343237870 139926 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1343237871 591999 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1343237877 823495 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Celeron was still alive as a brand then < 1343237878 630185 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1343237895 245073 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Celeron feels so 10 years ago < 1343237908 683048 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: There are Sandy Bridge Celerons from 2012. < 1343237927 546104 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought they killed the brand ages ago? < 1343237939 440279 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Celeron 797, release date January 2012. < 1343237951 455873 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ark.intel.com/products/63917 < 1343237975 902107 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1343238029 367872 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :No Ivy Bridge Celerons (yet), though. < 1343238050 619089 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1343238061 437976 :soundnfury!~edward@109.176.211.127 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Celeron T3500 (what I have) release date September 2010 (says Wiki) < 1343238074 503216 :soundnfury!~edward@109.176.211.127 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_Celeron_microprocessors < 1343238081 344692 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1343238101 359258 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did quote the Intel spec-sheet launch date, up there. < 1343238155 972944 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Also Celeron G550 (a desktop thing) from June 2012, that's like last month. < 1343238218 488951 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, whoa. < 1343238233 535327 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1343238236 308900 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Win-tab does some kinda threedee alt-tab in Win 7. < 1343238241 23712 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The more you know, I guess. < 1343238246 24493 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't really used this much. < 1343238246 718334 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :sec < 1343238253 84921 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, doesn't for me < 1343238256 967247 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you using Areo? < 1343238260 669373 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1343238263 512173 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aero. < 1343238266 27809 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use the classic looks < 1343238268 111522 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :so no Areo < 1343238276 631473 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, what does it look like? < 1343238313 965300 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.windows7taskforce.com/uploads/alt-win%20tab.jpg like that top thing. < 1343238320 700090 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That's some kind of a combined thing.) < 1343238329 821756 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the thing with the "sheets". < 1343238338 865884 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1343238342 348389 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty useless < 1343238360 313323 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, I was just surprised. Thought I was alt-tabbing. < 1343238364 779669 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1343238394 709134 :sirdancealot7!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1343238526 914767 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also it's still Aero and not Areo.) < 1343238567 188189 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever < 1343238637 132512 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1343238696 704015 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, orejan. < 1343238710 923968 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :g'day fuzzie < 1343238721 974433 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was hoping you'd correct the spelling. < 1343238728 527481 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then I could've said "whatever". < 1343238751 143832 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds dangerous. < 1343239212 588235 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-165-130.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1343239214 364729 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-165-130.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello! < 1343239914 121397 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-165-130.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's quiet < 1343240178 31388 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :too quiet < 1343240320 768120 :soundnfury!~edward@109.176.211.127 PRIVMSG #esoteric :All quiet on the esoteric front? < 1343240322 592396 :erwin!~erwinm874@180.249.59.243 JOIN :#esoteric < 1343240345 997470 :erwin!~erwinm874@180.249.59.243 QUIT : < 1343240402 321683 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-165-130.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed < 1343240994 265961 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is it with google services today. I'm having massive issues with youtube, gmail and google reader. Timing out or giving me 500 internal server errors sometimes < 1343241163 311909 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :we hate yuou < 1343241183 145937 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :who/what is "yuou"? < 1343241250 862911 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-153-199.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1343241260 464638 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-231-37.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1343241282 511979 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.211 JOIN :#esoteric < 1343241291 617321 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. < 1343241300 624085 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kann a PDA reverse its stack? < 1343241320 686820 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1343241394 689470 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-165-130.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Public display of affection? < 1343241546 285228 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "no takebacks" rule of public displays of affection. < 1343241583 543167 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: if it could, then you could easily implement a tape < 1343241611 672937 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or queue < 1343241618 619694 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what I figured @queue < 1343241663 920121 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: pushdown automaton hth < 1343241665 822517 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :A nondeterministic public display of affection can recognize a palindrome, though. < 1343241684 930762 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :The thing is... < 1343241687 422099 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/71/Pushdown-overview.svg < 1343241695 253421 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's state supposed to mean? < 1343241701 454159 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that some sort of internal state? < 1343241708 970223 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-165-130.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Roll the dice, if it's 1, we just hug" < 1343241711 872988 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Modifieable by instructions on the input tape? < 1343241714 326556 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-165-130.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"That's not a palindrome!" < 1343241733 731162 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: Just look at the mathy definition as opposed to confusing images. < 1343241748 962567 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: yes, it has internal finite state in addition to the stack < 1343241763 583022 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The thing that starts with the 7-tuple. < 1343242364 128632 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to figure out whether Burlesque is a PDA < 1343242374 416965 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's probably not. < 1343242384 864554 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't reverse the stack though. < 1343242416 736073 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you know how many elements on the stack are or leave a marking element somewhere < 1343242581 530067 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-165-130.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1343242697 990751 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you have only finite memory other than the stack, and cannot do anything to the stack below some depth without removing what's above, then it's probably a PDA. < 1343242725 272519 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric : A nondeterministic public display of affection can recognize a palindrome, though. <-- what? < 1343242763 727240 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I blame Taneb for that < 1343242804 605032 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and each stack element has finite bounded size < 1343242823 179932 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :A stack element can have an infinite size. < 1343242831 283890 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(eg. Blocks (Lists)) < 1343242851 123274 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can simulate a queue with a list I guess. < 1343242855 396811 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm right < 1343242974 362213 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :which would probably make it turing complete. < 1343243026 367212 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can simulate brainfucks >< by rotating a list, +,- obviously by incrementing the head of the list < 1343243040 354965 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :[] using a while loop that checks the head of the list, done. < 1343243078 416787 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: can you do underload's :()^ ? those are very simple for a stack language with blocks... < 1343243082 928256 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman, are you trying to prove a new language TC? < 1343243121 136241 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :: is duplicate, I can do that. < 1343243165 20783 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :duplicate, swap, pop not a problem. < 1343243176 367777 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and stuff is pushed automatically. < 1343243241 314282 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quite possibly !a* are also easy, but :()^ are all that are needed for TC < 1343243264 855449 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ modifies the program? < 1343243295 67624 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's really just eval < 1343243309 730661 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. < 1343243420 992639 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(:^):^ < 1343243485 529198 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's probably easier to translate brainfuck to Burlesque than translating underload :) < 1343243515 413507 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you have integers of infinite size as the stack elements, and can do suitable things to it, you could go via a two-counter machine too. < 1343243518 942445 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pushing instructions to the stack is possible < 1343243527 734976 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it requires a lot of wrapping stuff in blocks :) < 1343243556 289891 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: ah so you don't have a way to simply parse nested blocks? < 1343243572 366757 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Nested blocks are no problem. < 1343243617 297945 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well then, hm < 1343243634 557036 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/vorpal QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1343243650 621696 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can put code in a block and eval it. < 1343243651 72295 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :( -> { , ) -> } , : -> ^^ , ^ -> e! < 1343243661 149696 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there anything wrong with that translation? < 1343243686 442751 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so (:^):^ becomes {^^e!}^^e!? < 1343243694 183714 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1343243698 902124 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, that works. < 1343243713 668503 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well then it's TC < 1343243837 172013 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :! and * may be vv and ** < 1343243921 102302 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe .+ for the latter < 1343243990 379156 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :.+ doesn't work for commands yet. < 1343243994 23414 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that'd be a good idea < 1343244012 354465 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :although < 1343244017 386628 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :.+ works for blocks < 1343244054 392171 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. < 1343244058 187031 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah... should work with .+ < 1343244069 43486 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a might be {}\/[+ , assuming [+ nests if the arguments are both blocks < 1343244104 264620 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :blsq ) {ab} {cd} [+ < 1343244104 455224 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :{ab {cd}} < 1343244121 854198 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :excellent < 1343244148 393464 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so then you have all of underload except S, which tends to break with reencodings anyhow < 1343244212 458180 :AnotherTest!~tim@d51A4C7DD.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: http://pastebin.com/bMpJPxQA -- just a quick example. It lacks many things. < 1343244301 363490 :AnotherTest!~tim@d51A4C7DD.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had to make it skip whitespace because blsq gives me errors if I don't? Shouldn't all whitespace be ignored? < 1343244363 468787 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :White spaces are optional < 1343244368 996223 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :*whitespaces < 1343244378 560620 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :except after { < 1343244422 942052 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. < 1343244443 715814 :AnotherTest!~tim@d51A4C7DD.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: it seems to happen only with newlines(?) < 1343244500 6733 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let me put an "optional spaces" after { < 1343244534 448710 :AnotherTest!~tim@d51A4C7DD.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastebin.com/gW3bfVu0 < 1343244538 151968 :AnotherTest!~tim@d51A4C7DD.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :that gives me: < 1343244550 611863 :AnotherTest!~tim@d51A4C7DD.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :blsq: (line 3, column 1): < 1343244550 763004 :AnotherTest!~tim@d51A4C7DD.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :unexpected " " < 1343244570 296850 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that's invalid because whitespace can't follow {. < 1343244580 832983 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is a missing optional spaces in my parser. < 1343244612 887961 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1343244619 820521 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't git just ignore binary files < 1343244627 172494 :AnotherTest!~tim@d51A4C7DD.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1343244633 823932 :AnotherTest!~tim@d51A4C7DD.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :.gitignore < 1343244639 774133 :AnotherTest!~tim@d51A4C7DD.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :That should be possible < 1343244669 33431 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought that only allows extensions? < 1343244672 141657 :AnotherTest!~tim@d51A4C7DD.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless your binary files are in the same directory as the source code? < 1343244688 438339 :AnotherTest!~tim@d51A4C7DD.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I put bin/* in there today, and that worked < 1343244713 3221 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/FMNSSun/Burlesque/commit/8d7addc5667a703091fff9194b79a613c29d6da4 < 1343244716 503287 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: Yeah that works. < 1343244722 72287 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I whish it would ignore binary files at all < 1343244724 962371 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :no matter where they are. < 1343244778 216062 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-165-130.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1343244824 364856 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I sometimes do ghc --make main.hs -o burlesque to test things. < 1343244829 987176 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-165-130.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1343244833 232269 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then when I do git add . it adds it < 1343244842 105384 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and haskell binaries are like 6MB or so < 1343244938 691270 :AnotherTest!~tim@d51A4C7DD.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going. Tomorrow I will try to add functions or something else to Burlesque by using HELP. I think it's possible by adding a flag that will make it preprocess everything twice (this will allow a macro to generate a macro) < 1343244968 167340 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't use git add ., just add the right files instead < 1343244986 518036 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm too used to git add . :D < 1343244992 948010 :AnotherTest!~tim@d51A4C7DD.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, if you really are lazy < 1343244998 19121 :AnotherTest!~tim@d51A4C7DD.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :*.hs < 1343244998 175114 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because < 1343245007 279543 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes I just edit files and have no idea which I edited < 1343245009 339902 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i just do < 1343245016 824241 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :git add .; git commit -m "*bump*"; git push; < 1343245020 625608 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :git commit -a is also a lazy solution. < 1343245022 92085 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :silly me :) < 1343245033 601752 :AnotherTest!~tim@d51A4C7DD.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1343245037 451905 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :git add *.hs? < 1343245039 928238 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It will only add modified/deleted, not new files.) < 1343245048 956869 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1343245050 971429 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Thanks. < 1343245162 333267 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Overuse of "commit -a" might make one forget to actually add new files, though. (Personally I just take a quick git status to see what I've been doing lately, and then add explicitly.) < 1343245183 636429 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-165-130.as13285.net PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1343245188 845608 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-165-130.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1343245201 528046 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-165-130.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've... never figured out how to use git < 1343245206 381530 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-165-130.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not that I've tried < 1343245579 593501 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not too difficult once you understand some basic stuff < 1343245828 326731 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you're Gregor < 1343246405 422076 :SimonRC!~sc@fof.durge.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1343246412 233354 :SimonRC!~sc@fof.durge.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1343246763 514120 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1343247044 288234 :sirdancealot7!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1343247048 292600 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-122-243.as43234.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1343247917 668737 :soundnfury!~edward@109.176.211.127 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can put filenames in .gitignore < 1343247927 806111 :soundnfury!~edward@109.176.211.127 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I usually put in the names of my binaries < 1343248607 857147 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Good night < 1343249576 484390 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@078088172191.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1343250207 561078 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.3.8 < 1343250216 123295 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1343250755 840149 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-165-130.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It occurs to me, that I have now bought Amnesia 3 times < 1343250759 840083 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-165-130.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Never played it < 1343250885 39875 :Gregor!codu@codu.org NICK :Friendship < 1343251414 119531 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1343251513 738701 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.3.8 < 1343251858 252670 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett, what's this about a partnership? < 1343252500 372094 :Friendship!codu@codu.org NICK :Gregor < 1343252556 250829 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1343252592 497981 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@123.118.123.33 JOIN :#esoteric < 1343252592 649276 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@123.118.123.33 QUIT :Changing host < 1343252592 649437 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1343252667 366857 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-165-130.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1343253660 987909 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: I think it was a trap. < 1343253856 946257 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1343254189 268466 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1343254250 19997 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1343254307 424733 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1343255229 446620 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1343255581 195101 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1343256274 499998 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@123.118.123.33 JOIN :#esoteric < 1343256274 690685 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@123.118.123.33 QUIT :Changing host < 1343256274 690850 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1343256816 629789 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.211 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds > 1343257388 616596 JOIN :#esoteric > 1343257392 739824 JOIN :#esoteric > 1343257393 256401 JOIN :#esoteric > 1343257423 741001 JOIN :#esoteric < 1343257424 33189 :glogbot!codu@codu.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1343257424 603275 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@64.31.59.246 PART :#esoteric > 1343257427 872341 JOIN :#esoteric > 1343257428 388902 JOIN :#esoteric < 1343257494 371763 :MDude!~fyrc@67.232.230.96 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1343257904 201251 :MDoze!~fyrc@67.232.230.96 JOIN :#esoteric < 1343257904 363263 :MDoze!~fyrc@67.232.230.96 NICK :MDude < 1343258061 908055 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-155-66.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1343258065 681273 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-231-37.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1343258227 310188 :yiyus_!1242712427@je.je.je QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1343258378 185149 :yiyus!1242712427@je.je.je JOIN :#esoteric < 1343259789 98459 :Gregor!codu@codu.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1343260465 862701 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1343260603 14467 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric