< 1343433617 134527 :VonSmashington!~VonSmashi@c-67-175-124-3.hsd1.il.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does < 1343433626 101702 :VonSmashington!~VonSmashi@c-67-175-124-3.hsd1.il.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but eventually the variable runs out of space < 1343433656 825369 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :wot < 1343433671 841426 :VonSmashington!~VonSmashi@c-67-175-124-3.hsd1.il.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i programmed it in a high level automation language, so I can't change anything like variable size. < 1343433681 735916 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1343433683 330083 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay. < 1343433697 439744 :VonSmashington!~VonSmashi@c-67-175-124-3.hsd1.il.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i could have it just trim the string < 1343433764 795548 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you wrote your IRC client? < 1343433768 46254 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :in some weird language < 1343433970 593606 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, awesome whatever-the-speech-version-of-a-typo-is on the news: "micro-social blogging site Twitter" < 1343433999 848450 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :a speako? < 1343434004 507005 :soundnfury!~edward@109.176.211.127 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: "slip of the tongue"? < 1343434011 14006 :soundnfury!~edward@109.176.211.127 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(aka "lapsus lingui") < 1343434016 62190 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :a something-o < 1343434046 324322 :soundnfury!~edward@109.176.211.127 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is much more sensible than Von.
< 1343434050 367100 :soundnfury!~edward@109.176.211.127 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wrote /his/ client in C
< 1343434070 103819 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am the sensibilest of all < 1343434072 541071 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just use irssi < 1343434076 782155 :soundnfury!~edward@109.176.211.127 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pfft < 1343434085 172108 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :like a normal computer geek. < 1343434104 225843 :soundnfury!~edward@109.176.211.127 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose next you'll be saying you didn't write your own HTTP server either! < 1343434121 826955 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope. I use nginx. which wasn't even intended to be an HTTP server originally < 1343434276 181339 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :also my ISP is horse shit < 1343434282 494837 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :anytime there;s a thunderstorm I lose my connection. < 1343434293 537617 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :IP over horse shit? that one's new I think < 1343434390 131435 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we went to a bar which has beer taps at each table < 1343434396 244004 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and each tap has a meter, to bill you < 1343434396 414475 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1343434403 9382 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they also report quantity to TVs around the bar, so you can see who drank the most beer < 1343434413 74735 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and on wednesdays you get 20% off if you drink the most beer in the bar < 1343434414 809686 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like fun! < 1343434420 222 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1343434421 68531 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes and it DOESN'T WORK AT ALL OH GOD. < 1343434421 126426 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :soem academic toy thing. < 1343434421 126501 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :also if I respond to something like several minutes after it was said it's because I lost my connection. < 1343434459 86425 :VonSmashington!~VonSmashi@c-67-175-124-3.hsd1.il.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1343434649 653859 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the quality of my code from this point on is going to regrade severely. < 1343434685 159831 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :due to inevitably encroaching alchoholism. < 1343434709 616460 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/r(\w+)/d\1/ < 1343434854 811868 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :regrading goes both ways < 1343434928 601606 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I think right now I'm somewhere near the Ballmer Peak. < 1343434954 279033 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :teetering on the brink of total failure then? < 1343434960 365279 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1343434977 121510 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :just jump right in! :> < 1343434979 238999 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose I should strike you for that but it's not forced, soundnfury take note. < 1343435005 226976 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is this #esoteric baseball system < 1343435007 656321 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Phantom_Striker strikes again! < 1343435008 332276 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm unfamiliar with it. < 1343435018 137690 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have to deal with baseball-inspired legal systems in real life. < 1343435022 719951 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd rather not deal with them in IRC too. < 1343435038 595638 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think if you get a ball thrown near but not at you, you strike if you fail to strike it < 1343435049 722492 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a box < 1343435055 722232 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically around your upper body. < 1343435064 57419 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :that counts as the strike zone. < 1343435066 651021 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also if it starts raining you need a team of statisticians pronto. < 1343435099 326439 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is American therefore expert baseball expert.
< 1343435131 226973 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott is English, he must know how england baseball works < 1343435149 992666 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :england baseball? england only does tea and bad plumbing < 1343435152 436178 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't even know that was a thing. < 1343435187 567583 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bet they suck at baseball. < 1343435205 601624 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The funny part is that they totally do suck at cricket. < 1343435218 184911 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :do they throw baseballs at speeds that could potentially kill small children and animals? < 1343435220 94210 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And everything else, although they suck less at football than Scotland AFAIK. < 1343435245 807398 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti, faster, I believe. < 1343435268 581963 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And they use harder balls. < 1343435282 110983 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think they just roll the balls on the ground (and they even call it bowling) < 1343435286 121344 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :nonsense. < 1343435291 862825 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, that's Scotland bowling. < 1343435296 535511 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's entirely different. < 1343435304 115683 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I refuse to believe that another country has a superior baseball league. < 1343435319 339045 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION nationalism.
< 1343435337 609605 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey now, Japan gives a shit about baseball too. < 1343435341 877300 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes I know < 1343435345 149480 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but their league is not as good. < 1343435352 824816 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You might have some serious international sporting competition one of these days. < 1343435369 783878 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only know these things because some of my friends are baseball fans. < 1343435373 923495 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but otherwise I don't give a shit. < 1343435378 860088 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Suuuure. < 1343435400 1317 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :... says the most expert baseball expert in the channel < 1343435420 267873 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep. that's still true. < 1343435428 941884 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'll just have to deal with it. < 1343435487 318965 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :this interpreter for dogless is incredibly simple. < 1343435494 356465 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I don't know if I want to keep that name. < 1343435521 653698 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a good name for a language that's based very roughly off of dupdog but kind of more like /// < 1343435560 741963 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :dogslash < 1343435571 500166 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah. < 1343435573 36857 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :dup///dog < 1343435585 228024 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :the original name was "godless" < 1343435595 895607 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know why. < 1343435614 943498 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :updog, to reference channel history. < 1343435634 361047 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm unaware of the reference. < 1343435639 28665 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :me too < 1343435681 61780 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno if you remember when elliott made that bot to tell Sgeo_ to shut up about things like ActiveWorlds, Scala and sex? < 1343435689 535435 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, yes. < 1343435690 17813 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then oerjan banned it for being totally not cool man. < 1343435703 13421 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I don't remember anything named updog. < 1343435710 645164 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :because memory. < 1343435713 421341 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric ::_( < 1343435733 350134 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then elliott brought in another totally unrelated bot named updog which did nothing but say "what's updog" whenever its name was mentioned. < 1343435742 83796 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :..oh. < 1343435746 124842 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I don't remember that. < 1343435748 687819 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's updog < 1343435764 975986 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :... and that bot became shachaf < 1343435781 650079 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's shachaf < 1343435804 214225 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a bot < 1343435837 639969 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's bot < 1343435995 843665 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, does bot have soul? < 1343436015 122306 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's owl < 1343436048 427827 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :owl is bird < 1343436085 566715 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :owl is fowl < 1343436105 170855 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :owl is dowel < 1343436207 856766 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :vowel < 1343436208 671140 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :growl < 1343436209 480307 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :cowl < 1343436211 561988 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :foul < 1343436214 319136 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :bowel < 1343436222 118673 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :towel < 1343436234 464188 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(kallisti is a bot that rhymes.) < 1343436239 918092 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kall me isti < 1343436248 374926 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Phantom_Hoover is a bot which describes other bots.) < 1343436264 282407 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :we are all bots on inside. :_( < 1343436274 572580 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also sometimes the outside < 1343436293 640845 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yowel? < 1343436296 445912 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty sure that's a word < 1343436299 200263 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe yowl < 1343436358 994587 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how perl doesn't have a "print to stdout with newline" operator until version 5.10. < 1343436384 50851 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you need to explicitly declare what version you're using to get it. < 1343436387 996255 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :because backwards compatability. < 1343436547 20743 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I'm pretty sure dogless is turing complete now < 1343436558 872144 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :because I added some metacommands that affect the scope of the next command < 1343437674 156256 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey Sgeo_ < 1343437773 192105 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Sgeo Hey you know about Creatures right? How the hell is http://creatures.wikia.com/wiki/Albia#Geography_and_Travel meant to work? < 1343437773 250408 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1343438693 270688 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-144-139.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1343438718 332970 :pikhq_!~pikhq@70-56-230-121.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1343439593 717588 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :perl is the weirdest thing ever. < 1343439645 594441 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :its import statement is resolved at compile-time but you can use it literally anywhere. < 1343439778 177375 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :in python import statements have side-effects instead < 1343439786 469909 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :right. < 1343439788 470758 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :import launch_missiles < 1343439841 584363 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :the way it works in perl is that "use whatever LIST" is equivalent to; BEGIN {require whatever; whatever->import(LIST)} < 1343439862 634575 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :BEGIN being a block that's executed before compilation of the rest of the code. < 1343439876 395890 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think in FIFO order. I don't remember. it rarely matters. < 1343439904 212009 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, right, like in awk < 1343439927 537663 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have any single file C program emulating 6502 CPU which is public domain? < 1343439935 440756 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1343440025 845080 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: the import method is then used to explicitly export things. if you make your package a subclass of Exporter then you can define how symbols are exported. < 1343440038 743224 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :or you could write your own import method and do it by hand. < 1343440133 178054 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :the latter case is used to make "pragma" modules. aka modules that act as compile-time pragmas similar to "use strict". < 1343440294 628923 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, the creatures live on the edge of a disc < 1343440321 419903 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the stuff about centrifugal force? < 1343440364 713140 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, good question, no idea < 1343440395 422281 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also is the edge of the world just a mind-bogglingly steep cliff? < 1343440409 356944 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/steep/tall/, I suppose. < 1343440450 96009 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, although the edges are only in the forwards/backwards direction < 1343440480 530899 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a reason for all of this: Gameplay occurs in a 2d world that wraps around left/right < 1343440513 806873 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In an extremely narrow strip? < 1343440612 877751 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looking for a screenshot < 1343440664 434445 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i1-linux.softpedia-static.com/screenshots/Creatures-Internet-Edition_1.jpg note that this screeenshot does NOT depict Albia and this world does NOT wrap around, but gameplay in the games that show Albia is similar < 1343440701 870809 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although that shows one cramped area of the C3 world I guess < 1343440715 413735 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How illustrative of the large-scale structure. < 1343440731 930583 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Why didn't they put the world in the middle dammit, that makes much more sense. < 1343440735 153203 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1343440760 807155 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you explain that creatures don't leave the screen? < 1343440790 61329 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually they don't need public domain as long as it is Free software and not affecting the license of the rest of the project. < 1343440797 233145 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Imagine the world is a on the edge of a coin < 1343440826 185040 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean using a Halo-type arrangement. < 1343440848 108362 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Coin works I guess, it just seems not-quite-sane. < 1343440905 750496 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure what a Halo-type arrangement is < 1343440929 330724 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know the Halo series? And the Halos in them? < 1343440930 472874 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it's more sane then hypertaco (although the universe where that's used is not entirely intended to be sane) < 1343440967 411853 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hypertaco? < 1343440971 366740 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found something tat might help < 1343441070 992073 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, in Triangle and Robert < 1343441095 662333 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, I fixed the extrernal links on that page < 1343441128 981432 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"World Shapes: Triangle and Robert's world is not a sphere, but a four-dimensional hypertaco. < 1343441129 630568 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :" -- TV Tropes < 1343441149 661933 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't that going to be identical to a normal sphere for those living inside it? < 1343441165 951790 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Flatlanders living on a taco would see it as a circle, after all. < 1343441168 958761 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, no idea < 1343441187 367816 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't even try to understand it, to be honest < 1343441306 169613 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION bluhs at D's non-hygienic string mixins
< 1343442278 190771 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: what does non-hygienic mean in this context < 1343442335 316630 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It means local variables used in the string mixin can get confused with names you pass into it < 1343442344 405443 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(etc) < 1343442349 139779 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What else could it mean? < 1343442358 670248 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. < 1343442401 247093 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :string mixins usually don't have the property of being hygienic or not. < 1343442406 485783 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1343442443 80479 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas a macro or a string mixin that implements variable interpolation does. < 1343444084 278507 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1343444387 144621 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1343444388 151249 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :How would you make a hygienic string mixin? < 1343444600 484429 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Madoka-Kaname, you could possibly make something that looks but isn't like a hygienic string mixin? < 1343445005 931542 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ echo 'Hello, World!' | scripts/Dogless.pl < 1343445008 237870 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, World! < 1343445010 196500 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that was easy. < 1343445019 625877 :soundnfury!~edward@109.176.211.127 PRIVMSG #esoteric :almost, but not quite, entirely unlike a mixin < 1343445041 498274 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :the hello world program also has the nice perk of being a quine. < 1343445089 234822 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :it also doubles as cat, I guess. since the only real input is the program source. < 1343445145 370275 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I should add a notion of input. < 1343445390 682666 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: maybe I don't know what "string mixin" means in this context. < 1343445403 124288 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :to me a mixin is a class that you "drop into" another class. < 1343445436 768805 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti, in D, a string mixin is a function that makes a string at compiletime and then that becomes code < 1343445438 123708 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think < 1343445443 641118 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1343445471 360826 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://dlang.org/mixin.html < 1343445486 424671 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1343445600 464967 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :just never use local variables, or give them terrible names. < 1343445602 86862 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :problem solved. < 1343445604 177110 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_> < 1343445772 809588 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Repeated imports of the same file are of no import." < 1343445814 654397 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :heyo! < 1343445858 571650 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :does D automatically return the last statement of a function? < 1343445869 527696 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :or do you just assign to a constant char[] with the same name as the template < 1343445875 305330 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No idea < 1343445877 574942 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :template GenStruct(char[] Name, char[] M1) < 1343445877 593413 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :{ const char[] GenStruct = "struct " ~ Name ~ "{ int " ~ M1 ~ "; }"; < 1343445878 571356 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :} < 1343445894 868807 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1343446019 544732 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does the documentation mention the part where std.file.read() is broken? < 1343446057 901836 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.O? < 1343446598 240057 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, how is it broken? < 1343446670 326088 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: The buffering code is buggy. < 1343446675 304400 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try reading a file from /proc/ < 1343446687 106393 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Bigger than 4096 bytes.) < 1343446708 599831 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do I do italics in wiki markup again < 1343446731 569228 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :'''''''''''word''''''''''' < 1343446755 499013 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah right < 1343446789 143394 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Walter Bright could probably make a good language but D isn't it. < 1343446812 814682 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :like many improvements to the C language, it shows a lot of promise but isn't quite there.. < 1343446820 744364 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rust is probably better than D. < 1343446834 433910 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rust is still being changed quite a lot. < 1343446839 2581 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but what it's got so far is pretty solid. < 1343447074 592666 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's wrong with D? < 1343447106 584277 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything < 1343447117 671273 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is a mess and half-broken < 1343447123 391558 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that's just the language < 1343447129 289824 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the toolchains are ten messes unto themselves < 1343447456 154517 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :why can I never remember how to do backslash escapes in regex... < 1343447474 297637 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meanm parsing them < 1343447487 597484 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :"match this, unless it's preceded by an odd number of backslashes" < 1343447647 812106 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, what do you think about Dylan? < 1343447666 613314 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's a good musician, but makes for a lousy programming language. < 1343447668 286138 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION elliott.
< 1343447809 114956 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't like bob dylan < 1343447811 661906 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so probably i like the language more < 1343447815 493892 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know all that much about it < 1343447817 345861 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems ok < 1343447825 390784 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is not like anyone uses it or it is really viable in any way though < 1343447905 39950 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1343447928 597033 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, apparently it's going through a revival. At too slow a place to really count as a revival < 1343448011 117674 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Write error: Connection reset by peer < 1343448120 928772 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would be nice if I could even get it working without needing to use a VM < 1343448489 405795 :VorpalPhone!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1343448733 492054 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know what we need? FreeDylan < 1343448944 177377 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1343449155 1880 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm looking at 3d printing stuff for some reason, and thought of a good use: iceblocks pieces < 1343449191 342588 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...or that's not what they're called < 1343449193 555557 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are they called < 1343449200 48128 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Martian Chess is a whatever game < 1343449219 986698 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Icehouse, there we go < 1343449241 757234 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1343449378 401865 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icehouse_pieces < 1343449420 622949 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.O http://www.crystalcaste.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=CC&Category_Code=PY < 1343449423 668379 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are many possible games using these icehouse pieces < 1343449438 680025 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Including some game that uses tarot cards to make a board that the pieces are placed on < 1343449545 436747 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some games require multicolored icehouse pieces < 1343449821 912856 :VorpalPhone!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1343450777 115587 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that too < 1343450815 44952 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The game I mentioned require different color for each player, as well as all the sizes, and can be stand up or pointing to another card < 1343451982 407275 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can sympathize with the way you felt. I'm a staunch young-earth creationist and it bothered me a bit that I might use an email client like "Evolution." So for the first two years or so that I used Linux, I used Thunderbird. Recently, I noticed that the email search is a lot faster on Evolution (I have >14,000 emails to search). So I made the switch to Evolution. < 1343451982 624169 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do wish there was a way to name the application differently (in the title bar). But like the previous poster said, we got other things to worry about (~5 billion souls on their way to hell). < 1343451996 831369 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks for the positive attitude, tak < 1343452046 37712 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1343452428 106243 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-219-42.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1343452647 765700 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Dogless < 1343452651 9849 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :look at the damage I have done. < 1343453138 550725 :ogrom!~nask@gprs-inet-65-124.elisa.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1343453537 507670 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please let me know if anything is worded confusingly < 1343453667 500830 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it is OK < 1343454135 653502 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I once felt uncomfortable with NetHack's #pray because I felt like it was too close to worshipping other gods. < 1343454152 135906 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :.. < 1343454203 810624 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :or in dogless: ..|~ < 1343454212 407353 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :which will eventually converge to an infinite string of dots. < 1343454217 566701 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :or... diverge? I don't even know. < 1343454226 436834 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: hi < 1343454237 181627 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This was when I was younger < 1343454240 808339 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And still believed in God < 1343454260 470618 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Funny, becoming an RL atheist made me more comfortable with violating atheist conduct in NetHack < 1343454260 784866 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: plz berate dogless. inlude that it needlessly overcomplicates dupdogs minimal (read: stupid) design. < 1343454372 388027 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never had an issue making distinctions between in character and out of character. < 1343454408 879052 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew the distinction, it still made me uncomfortable < 1343454853 97639 :asiekierka_!~asiekierk@078088172191.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1343454946 873300 :pikhq_!~pikhq@168-103-254-124.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1343454949 781511 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-144-139.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1343455074 623936 :asiekierka_!~asiekierk@078088172191.elblag.vectranet.pl NICK :asiekierka < 1343455188 713353 :ogrom!~nask@gprs-inet-65-124.elisa.ee QUIT :Quit: begone < 1343455328 473872 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-124.elisa.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1343457910 780281 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: dogless looks dumb < 1343457911 234001 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1343457954 992242 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1343457988 248827 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not attempting to revolutionize computing with my esolangs, here.. < 1343458030 4702 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you asked for beration < 1343458034 985745 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1343458057 803264 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I request a strawman, now please let me defend myself against it. < 1343458062 620427 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :*requested < 1343458089 228560 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO < 1343458090 627560 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*no < 1343458090 798012 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :strawmen are vicious predators after all. < 1343458092 259345 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fucking < 1343458093 91466 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :caps lock < 1343458135 271236 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I'm not entirely sure what the instruction >~ or >>~ or <~ or ><~ etc is supposed to do < 1343458148 501744 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the semantics of that might change. < 1343458212 833279 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :abc|>~def|ghi -> abc|def|~ghi < 1343458254 151802 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1343458289 331302 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :abc|>~def|ghi -> abc|def|ghi|def|~ghi < 1343459810 749201 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@078088172191.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1343459834 198529 :asiekierka_!~asiekierk@078088172191.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1343460320 958908 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you play snooker? < 1343460479 537017 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you? < 1343460509 732433 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1343460520 719418 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a rule in snooker that says you must try hard to hit the ball? < 1343460541 886524 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is no rule in poker that says you have to try hard to win. < 1343460609 203101 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf kind of rule is that. < 1343460631 660429 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote There is no rule in poker that says you have to try hard to win. < 1343460642 563338 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :854) There is no rule in poker that says you have to try hard to win. < 1343460645 369223 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is that even remotely enforceable < 1343460795 979266 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-124.elisa.ee QUIT :Quit: Left < 1343461071 522900 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: I don't know. < 1343461774 851280 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1343461855 838149 :augur!~augur@pool-71-178-130-139.washdc.east.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1343462021 777995 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1343462123 812310 :augur!~augur@pool-71-178-130-139.washdc.east.verizon.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1343462440 285123 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1343462839 255883 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://play.pokemonshowdown.com/battle-randombattle45434 < 1343462841 919130 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :The RNG hates me. < 1343462863 382614 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :This the first time I've wanted to curse the RNG algorithm outside of Nethack. < 1343463185 298717 :augur!~augur@206.196.187.12 JOIN :#esoteric < 1343463784 798557 :augur!~augur@206.196.187.12 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1343463807 37119 :augur!~augur@206.196.187.12 JOIN :#esoteric < 1343463836 93034 :augur!~augur@206.196.187.12 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1343464861 850406 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1343465378 270029 :augur!~augur@pool-71-178-130-139.washdc.east.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1343465546 815087 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-149-174.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1343465903 920233 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1343466656 968258 :augur!~augur@pool-71-178-130-139.washdc.east.verizon.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1343466678 597 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1343467196 987158 :ogrom!~del@143.122.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1343467652 293005 :derdon!~derdon@pD9E1D5C8.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1343468655 851916 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.211 JOIN :#esoteric < 1343469473 575772 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PART #esoteric :"Hug~♪" < 1343471985 122394 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1343472471 973726 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a91-154-82-93.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1343473746 343020 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a91-154-82-93.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1343474017 636786 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a91-154-82-93.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1343474463 12473 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, Phantom_Hoover monqy tswett UPDATE < 1343474514 667101 :nortti!nortti@smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1343474531 675182 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this does not concern you mortal < 1343474540 491985 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg < 1343474543 122947 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sburban jungle < 1343474580 366700 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: epadut < 1343474660 77329 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: Sgeo_ lets us know when monqy gets marginally less terrible < 1343474726 715638 :nortti!nortti@smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1343474792 335667 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok this is definitely best entrance flash < 1343475066 990344 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION parses everything that got posted since phantom joined
< 1343475085 621124 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha. suburban jungle. thats what i was missing < 1343475225 229668 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Rest in Peace, Suburban Jungle - The Bad Webcomics Wiki" < 1343475250 354331 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not even the name < 1343475257 855414 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's Sburban, not Suburban < 1343475262 633982 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh... < 1343475263 119407 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1343475267 645368 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this explains a lot < 1343475371 9246 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1343475371 808556 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it appears to be music < 1343475418 313518 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa < 1343475774 418254 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps whoever made that is a macguyver of art, perhaps < 1343476102 923729 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :made what < 1343476130 849201 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the intro < 1343477473 950486 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :intro to what, sburb? < 1343477501 543153 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1343478689 54513 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21, just go to http://www.mspaintadventures.com and start reading < 1343478706 925355 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah this stuff might infact be too weird for me < 1343478814 280670 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it's some crazy shit man < 1343478824 464688 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just don't do homestuckl < 1343479010 10494 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think part of whats creepy about it is the uncanny way it's based on real life types of events < 1343479127 707502 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no need for me to expound, i'm clearly preaching to the choir < 1343479181 421342 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are < 1343479185 310607 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you talking about homestuck < 1343479277 414819 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe itidus21 is talking about the fact that meteors are a threat IRL? < 1343479330 265151 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe. < 1343479699 448288 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-15-174.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1343479700 768569 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-15-174.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1343479721 792732 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_, hey someone you can update! < 1343479743 146321 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-15-174.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Already seen it < 1343479752 854545 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1343479762 121185 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the fuck I've just read? -> http://notch.tumblr.com/post/20056289891/start-classified-transmission < 1343479784 776341 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-15-174.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :From the URL looks 0x10c-y < 1343479816 88805 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-15-174.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, that's 0x10c < 1343479858 489785 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: uh oh, they say that information is secret < 1343479895 254484 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :0x10c? < 1343479903 952631 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Notch's space sim thing. < 1343479904 932342 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-15-174.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mojang's third or fourth game < 1343479913 504650 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-15-174.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(depends if you count Cobalt or not) < 1343479931 63619 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It incorporates a programmable spaceship CPU. < 1343479941 817322 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :GOD this is lame! < 1343479978 29711 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it has a good side < 1343480000 343302 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-15-174.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's set in an alternate history where the space race led to cryogenics < 1343480002 977453 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga, I'm not well-versed in CPU architecture, is it bad? < 1343480018 303986 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-15-174.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And an endiness mistake led to some people being frozen for trillions of years < 1343480020 415716 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :still better than x86 < 1343480064 263317 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :but programming spaceships in assembler is the stupidiest thing i've ever heard < 1343480086 507 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :x86 assembly is not that bad < 1343480094 807649 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially for writing < 1343480095 241053 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-15-174.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga, it just gives you the CPU and assembler. The community's making a C compiler and other stuff < 1343480100 223173 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: worked for the AGC! (I think) < 1343480114 544893 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :programming spaceships in assembler is how we got to the moon < 1343480116 515339 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fyi < 1343480124 729136 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1343480128 278973 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure that's correct. < 1343480128 602913 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know that < 1343480130 485725 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it's further proof for the moon landing hoax < 1343480135 22794 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-15-174.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought we just hit eachother with slide rules? < 1343480152 88692 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: really? the community is already making a C compiler? < 1343480152 251453 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Assembler seems like a needless extravagance, considering the computers on Apollo 11 had like 1300 NOR gates in total. < 1343480161 783178 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-15-174.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga, have been for a few months < 1343480175 673724 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're not done yet? how hard can it be < 1343480175 861581 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :link please < 1343480178 48949 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-15-174.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://dcputoolcha.in/ < 1343480238 313854 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1343480255 936132 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But will anyone port GHC? < 1343480288 971084 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought about a massively multiplayer online RTS < 1343480293 636230 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-15-174.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure if there's enough ram, Phantom_Hoover < 1343480303 375060 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :should be easy to port after they fix ghc to be properly cross-compilery < 1343480304 276279 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-15-174.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga, will the guns have CPUs? < 1343480307 947179 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the main idea would be that there are no units < 1343480317 480406 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, make a dcpu-targeting cross compiler < 1343480318 861644 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :except for one < 1343480335 506937 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be programmable and multi-purpose < 1343480354 95560 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does seem like it'll be hopelessly niche, though. < 1343480360 926075 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-15-174.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, mixed up RTS with FPS < 1343480362 443533 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's up to players to program their units to network with others < 1343480385 726121 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :porting the RTS might be a different question though < 1343480389 901194 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they could share or trade programs < 1343480395 447665 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :An FPS with programmable guns would be the best thing. < 1343480396 673401 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :x86 has its ugly bits but compared to the overall difficulty of programming in assembly it's not a big deal < 1343480403 42831 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :other architectures have quirks < 1343480414 149390 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just a dumb hipster thing to talk about how awful x86 is all the time < 1343480421 252828 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, you could program it to I dunno, shoot bullets... to the left? < 1343480423 286517 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :remember that RISC is explicitly designed to make writing assembly by hand *harder* < 1343480431 821882 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: okay okay, i was joking abut x86 < 1343480447 670191 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, dude the only reliable way to get it into protected mode is to use the keyboard controller. < 1343480478 61945 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have engaged rant mode < 1343480486 63272 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: a) that's a property of the PC platform, not x86 < 1343480496 837044 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b) i was talking about "normal" code not weird platform specific OS code < 1343480503 214050 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is pretty ugly on most systems < 1343480529 954975 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :setting up the A20 line is, like, two instructions of the whole thing < 1343480559 800276 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :RISC processors offload a *massive* amount of weirdness to the OS < 1343480566 223369 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know, I know, I just find it pretty funny. < 1343480585 184068 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :soft-fill TLBs, incoherent caches, etc < 1343480603 467102 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :on ARM Linux userspace can't do self-modifying code without a system call :( < 1343480681 354097 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, so um wait what does the programming aspect in 0x10c actually handle? < 1343480699 530424 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-15-174.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Controlling the space ship, weapons, shields etc < 1343480702 609224 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-15-174.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also minigames < 1343480713 460350 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-15-174.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somebody made Tetris, iirc < 1343480719 99152 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So... it's basically a straight programming game? < 1343480738 3168 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-15-174.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ish < 1343480747 343349 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-15-174.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can just use other people's code < 1343480763 859335 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-15-174.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It recommends sharing? < 1343480766 449325 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can see it working if the code consists of a layer between the player and the ship, so tweaking it is powerful but not vital. < 1343480780 749664 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the reason x86 doesn't do e.g. incoherent caches is that it tries to preserve compatability with code made at the time a cache didn't exist < 1343480805 263373 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But if having the better code is most of the game it'll just alienate most of the potential audience. < 1343480829 899610 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the potential audience is ultra nerds < 1343480835 833746 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :a lot of that is actually pretty "nice" ... it requires the cpu to guarantee a lot of convenient stuff it wouldn't bother with otherwise < 1343480865 325606 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, not even that, it's the subset of ultra nerds who enjoy programming games. < 1343480871 502535 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is very, very small. < 1343480887 718068 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they're all creaming their pants right now < 1343480901 161122 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so maybe notch cares more about making 1000 people do that < 1343480908 276823 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than making a fun toy for 1,000,000 people < 1343480910 455106 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which he already did < 1343480966 48416 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they have actually relaxed some parts of that... for example, self-modifying code is not supposed to be reliable in multi-cpu systems on x86 < 1343480989 731329 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is olsner just soliloquising. < 1343481014 837314 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :if that means doing what I'm doing then that is what I'm doing < 1343481180 103292 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-15-174.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It means talking to the audience to explain your character's innermost thoughts, feelings and motives < 1343481190 209793 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Urk, the 0x10c website doesn't say anything much about the way the gameplay works. < 1343481205 811893 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-15-174.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's in really early development < 1343481218 961172 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-15-174.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not even at "Cave Game" state yet < 1343481245 352108 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, but I'd hope he'd have some idea of the fundamentals of the gameplay. < 1343481251 110539 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although this *is* Notch. < 1343481257 468728 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-15-174.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's all very hush-hush < 1343481270 122286 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: hmm, sounds like that doesn't really apply here... unless I was describing the inner thoughts of the x86 architecture or something? < 1343481287 549798 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-15-174.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Phantom_Hoover was thinking about monologueing < 1343481310 803149 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No I wasn't! < 1343481761 944172 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1343481770 701002 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :people are writing OSes for DCPU < 1343481806 745856 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :people are writing OSes for x86 too! < 1343481855 106091 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-15-174.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :People are writing OSes for brainfuck < 1343481862 620964 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-15-174.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, at least person tried to write < 1343481932 713883 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric : Urk, the 0x10c website doesn't say anything much about the way the gameplay works. <-- IIRC notch spoke a bit about that on twitter when 0x10c was first announced < 1343481968 490768 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1343481978 473365 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric : I think the reason x86 doesn't do e.g. incoherent caches is that it tries to preserve compatability with code made at the time a cache didn't exist <-- I thought it did for iL1? < 1343481982 54376 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i will write forth like language for dcpu < 1343481983 353215 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha! < 1343482060 109415 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure why not < 1343482106 382162 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :if 0x10c takes off I assume there will be ready-made OSes for it so less nerdy people don't have to bother with programming for it < 1343482142 141428 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I'm going to write DCPU asm, but forth? sure, why not < 1343482158 294970 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :or lisp < 1343482162 889592 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But will the game still be fun if you're not interested in the programming? < 1343482173 487987 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :but GC would suck < 1343482180 588516 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what I'm curious about, and there's not much information there. < 1343482197 949028 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, anyway one interesting aspect of 0x10c is that you could do some really interesting stuff for computer controlled turrets or such potentially < 1343482223 558046 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I know. < 1343482225 623323 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't have to live with a sucky AI any more, you could improve it for your ship < 1343482283 132432 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1343482287 196602 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :also even if you are interested in programming, you might not want to program in a game < 1343482303 284740 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example: personally I tend to play games when I'm exhausted from programming < 1343482328 592144 :nortti!nortti@smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :does DCPU have any specified I/O systems? what about clock interrupt? < 1343482409 798720 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-15-174.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti, yes, and I think yes < 1343482419 265293 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-15-174.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :#0x10c-dev is the place for this < 1343482420 36756 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm my phone has more video capturing devices under /dev than it has cameras... < 1343482443 58599 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cameras that /you/ know about. < 1343482465 466456 :nortti!nortti@smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :big brother is watching you! < 1343482466 707711 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, reading stuff from /sys indicates a few of them are virtual devices, whatever that is < 1343482515 465653 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the touch screen is actually exposed from the kernel as a video device < 1343482530 781145 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, nortti http://sprunge.us/ZfbV < 1343482561 118337 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe video0/video1 (that is 81:0 and 81:1) are the actual cameras based on running strings on a relevant user space library < 1343482586 566449 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, really? Or are you just making that up? < 1343482597 222526 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Yes. < 1343482609 772501 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, yes to which question? :P < 1343482611 748305 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://aws.johnmccann.me/ < 1343482613 374975 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :ow < 1343482616 221349 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti, are you richard stallman < 1343482617 518017 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has clock < 1343482618 245561 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: obviously < 1343482642 866748 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, ? < 1343482704 655105 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm some of those might be output devices, since surfaceflinger has video2 and video16 open < 1343482721 598055 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :(surfaceflinger is the android window compositor thingy) < 1343482773 29764 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :video11, video12 and video20 are not open anywhere. < 1343482989 577669 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I guess I either want video0 or video1 then... Now, how to monitor the device... < 1343483010 34126 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm how would I transparently monitor access to a device file on linux? < 1343483208 612370 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, strace reports I/O errors < 1343483384 661211 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-15-174.as13285.net NICK :Ngevd < 1343483537 881168 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay now it works? < 1343483556 371840 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm video0 is the primary camera, presumably video1 is the user-facing camera then < 1343483578 273 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the driver is s3c-fimc < 1343483597 241747 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :ffffuuu < 1343483598 413481 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/dsmvwld/CamelForth-16 < 1343483603 318879 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :why am I always late < 1343483617 196864 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga, hey you could help me programming instead < 1343483622 829645 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-15-174.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga, write a Cobol compiler < 1343483633 694383 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga, it is more of a reverse engineer job though < 1343483696 817378 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to get raw data from the Samsung Galaxy S3 camera. :) < 1343483733 628039 :nortti!nortti@smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: no. I'm not rms. why? < 1343483784 312286 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A while ago someone quoted RMS saying phones are tools of the government to spy on you. < 1343483823 92665 :nortti!nortti@smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that. I own a phone. it is old nokia bought from second hand store with cash < 1343483840 807545 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: doesn't matter < 1343483855 219106 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :you shold destroy the phone after every call to be 100% sure < 1343483860 732582 :nortti!nortti@smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1343483908 172596 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ow, ow, ow. tarbomb < 1343483910 688853 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :why samsung < 1343483931 828198 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :good thing I did tar -tf first... < 1343483941 864278 :nortti!nortti@smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is tarbomb? < 1343483984 89815 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti, a tar file that gives you multiple files and/or directories when doing tar -xf. Instead of creating one directory and placing all those files inside < 1343484017 681751 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti, so if you did tar -zcf ../kernel.tar.gz . for example < 1343484026 66218 :nortti!nortti@smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know < 1343484036 478712 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :why did you ask what a tarbomb was then < 1343484038 225836 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you knew < 1343484044 411487 :nortti!nortti@smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant what file was tarbomb < 1343484050 103880 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1343484061 189270 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :samsung's kernel code release < 1343484064 739240 :nortti!nortti@smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1343484065 31054 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the S3 < 1343484140 962652 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :why didn't they include a .config < 1343484142 934239 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :idiots < 1343484266 401944 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha, found the relevant kernel headers. Now to figure out if getting raw data is possible < 1343484272 13674 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no sodding clue < 1343484397 533956 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, does v4l present an unified interface to the user space? < 1343484528 609137 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait what, why does the phone platform include CUPS4j drivers. Yes that seems to be a library for java to talk to CUPS < 1343484529 439196 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :why < 1343484636 423046 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :for printing, obviously < 1343484646 802547 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, yes but why printer support on a phone < 1343484655 766786 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :for printing! :) < 1343484664 499160 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously < 1343484880 887530 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :googling suggests that people do indeed want and/or use printing on phones < 1343484893 534038 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-148-15-174.as13285.net NICK :Taneb < 1343484910 446853 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1343484919 481969 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :also there is some jpeg stuff in the kernel driver for it < 1343485055 312721 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :conclusion so far: badly documented code, need data sheet for device to understand it < 1343485437 84612 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoever wrote the Kconfig for this thing at Samsung sucked at English. < 1343485570 562758 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :samsung is korean < 1343485593 645091 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-15-174.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm thinking of Nokia, aren't I? < 1343485830 107030 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: are you? < 1343485840 621040 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-15-174.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that the Finnish one? < 1343485880 746812 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, they make tires, rubber boots and mobile phones < 1343485994 488268 :nortti!nortti@smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: tires and rubber boots are no longer made by nokia. they are produces by nokian < 1343486007 88310 :nortti!nortti@smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :*produced < 1343486094 98139 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh, boring < 1343486102 510453 :derdon!~derdon@pD9E1D5C8.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1343486142 809726 :nortti!nortti@smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :they also produced computers, telephones and telephone switches < 1343487114 305579 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1343487126 169152 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1343488971 227632 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1343490030 233077 :ogrom!~del@143.122.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee QUIT :Quit: Left < 1343490669 407543 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello from the Finnishland. < 1343490684 948976 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-15-174.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello from the Not Finnishland < 1343490727 305269 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello ameriland. < 1343490741 275923 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :great < 1343490787 102126 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello from thessaloniki < 1343490797 947423 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-15-174.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Evidently dubstep is the new punk? < 1343490822 368477 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in what way < 1343490829 954628 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :how long ago was punk the new punk? < 1343490837 645052 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-15-174.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mid 70's < 1343490843 314564 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-15-174.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :1976, I think < 1343490861 385527 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: dubstep is not the new punk. < 1343490867 555385 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is... the new dubstep. < 1343490879 360411 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-15-174.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In terms of the opinion of the world about it < 1343490880 203130 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :new dubstep? that's the old dubstep? < 1343490889 472722 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1343490952 488881 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-15-174.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The opinion being near universal contempt < 1343490986 188730 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-15-174.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like pretty much every kind of music except for the Black Eyed Peas < 1343490987 670885 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like some dubstep. < 1343490990 971866 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait what < 1343490991 304731 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol? < 1343490994 805508 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :SO SPECIFIC < 1343490995 676863 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :punk rock was enormously popular < 1343490995 761559 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-15-174.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I cannot STAND the Black Eyed Peas < 1343490997 490573 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-15-174.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1343491000 541391 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and influential < 1343491007 145758 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think you probably know nothing about music < 1343491012 543864 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why don't you argue with itidus21 about it < 1343491013 722230 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-15-174.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, punk bands got attacked by people with knives < 1343491028 472797 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right some people hate it violently < 1343491031 43586 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-15-174.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :PEOPLE WITH KNIVES < 1343491032 928188 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like anything < 1343491038 527118 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :football fans get attacked thus < 1343491044 731244 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :from which i conclude that the world hates football < 1343491076 12083 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only listen to free baroquecore nintendostep garage folk < 1343491103 480517 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-15-174.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quoth the wiki: "Violent attacks on punk fans were on the rise." < 1343491155 441450 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-15-174.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm probably wrong < 1343491183 80422 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this proves nothing < 1343491193 363931 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the proportion of people who will violently attack anything is so small < 1343491205 635538 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that you cannot generalize to the whole world < 1343491222 33745 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is possibly the most intellectually bankrupt argument i've heard in some time < 1343491249 936278 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose you think the beatles were universally hated too < 1343491252 426911 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-15-174.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah < 1343491257 808089 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-15-174.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm accepting I'm wrong now < 1343491265 606372 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because john lennon got shot by one crazy person < 1343491272 627450 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, jesus christ you don't have to be this hostile. < 1343491288 915866 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no but i want to < 1343491290 101599 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in this case < 1343491297 975300 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION attacks Taneb with knives
< 1343491314 993197 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: jesus christ you don't have to be so LOUD about your distaste of his HOSTILITY. < 1343491322 89877 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Because I want to" is not really a good enough reason. < 1343491324 820188 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-15-174.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION parries with poorly understood IRC features
< 1343491326 591158 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :fucker. < 1343491327 741638 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm offended by the fact that you're offended < 1343491355 673589 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :;P < 1343491367 519256 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not really) < 1343491369 686175 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway i'm done < 1343491373 609346 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is incredibly offensive, we need to just close the channel entirely now < 1343491380 408805 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :three strikes for everyone < 1343491387 714074 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, kick everyone plx < 1343491423 736836 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-15-174.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :On another note, I think Suetonius's chapter on the reign of Caligula is kinda like a sort of not really dubstep song < 1343491449 574856 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I once had a plan to shut up the crickets someone in my biology class was using for an experiment with dubstep. < 1343491457 610658 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It failed due to nobody having any dubstep to hand. < 1343491548 895111 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :dubstep crickets.. < 1343491569 536523 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :now enjoy some dubstep: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sNxRji1STg < 1343491581 275890 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dubstep crickets would possibly have been even worse than the crickets he was using. < 1343491585 201166 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But not by much. < 1343491655 921937 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :greece has about 20x as much anti-fascist graffiti as fascist graffiti < 1343491659 400585 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose this is a good thing < 1343491682 684845 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :allegedly 50% of the cops voted for the neo nazi party in the most recent election < 1343491715 8476 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah but the government have declared that all public surfaces are allowed to have fascist slogans written on them < 1343491743 854300 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh? < 1343491755 564796 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i can't read greek so i wouldn't really know < 1343491758 846840 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, that was a joke that fell apart due to obtuse grammar. < 1343491767 492358 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :every golden dawn logo i recognized was crossed out < 1343491793 516229 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-15-174.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember last time I went to France, I saw some Occitan independence graffiti < 1343491825 711446 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the party with the most recognizable (to illiterate me) street presence is the communist party ΚΚΕ < 1343491827 864985 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Golden Dawn is such a culty name. < 1343491840 291064 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :followed by anarchists if that counts < 1343491845 119980 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :PH: I know, right? < 1343491901 906183 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Write "visca POUM" everywhere and test the Greeks' knowledge of George Orwell's autobiographical work. < 1343492017 3429 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :going to albania soon < 1343492029 334312 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is hoped that albania is not closed on sundays < 1343492049 273189 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :albania? isn't that the fictional country in the dilbert comics? < 1343492068 226361 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it's the fictional country in wag the dog < 1343493760 166227 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1343494811 364316 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: thanks. < 1343494959 56188 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett, you're welcome < 1343495146 705020 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Taneb < 1343495386 296019 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1343495397 15552 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-15-174.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1343495664 129292 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-15-174.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1343496480 808688 :asiekierka_!~asiekierk@078088172191.elblag.vectranet.pl NICK :asiekierka < 1343497307 669106 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-219-42.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1343497565 663728 :ogrom!~del@143.122.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1343497723 984701 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-15-174.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1343497750 756812 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1343498256 520209 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in relation to punk rock) i can't tell if things are good, or if things only appear good because of repeated exposure < 1343498284 479704 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that being said, i am convinced that it is possible to tell how much work has been put into something < 1343498346 122526 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1343498364 214200 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi, everybody! < 1343498425 988805 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then, if you put work into something and you forget to put honesty, emotion, whatever else the platitdes say into it, then it will be as good as having done no work at all < 1343498459 914679 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-15-174.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi, Phantom_Hoover! < 1343498490 347644 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-15-174.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yeah, I do not like Black Eyed Peas < 1343498502 860168 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-15-174.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or polystyrene, but that's for different reasons < 1343498583 62293 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that my humps is a song about celebrating lust and hedonism < 1343498751 922294 :yiyus!1242712427@je.je.je QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1343499019 19224 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1343499281 601035 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Hi Dr. Nick. < 1343499324 941666 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1343499667 195570 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1343499984 185071 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1343499986 818126 :yiyus!1242712427@je.je.je JOIN :#esoteric < 1343501822 174750 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1343501849 689988 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, btw you have to ban everyone < 1343501868 348607 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :again? < 1343501872 125395 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1343501878 530315 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tsk tsk < 1343501994 806860 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im playing smb in slow motion.. and.. i just stomped a goomba, and then on the ricochet i stomped another goomba which was still in midair falling < 1343502008 612221 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reminds me of Braid. < 1343502015 390352 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was like.. omg that just happened < 1343502040 361667 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-15-174.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, Braid is essentially SMB with time travel and different aesthetics < 1343502044 280617 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-15-174.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And puzzles < 1343502053 599246 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And a pretentious creator. < 1343502090 993861 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :smb is my main obsession < 1343502119 994526 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :when i first played it, it didn't mean an awful lot to me < 1343502247 778655 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : it is hoped that albania is not closed on sundays <-- it's muslim so probably fridays < 1343502292 76108 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : albania? isn't that the fictional country in the dilbert comics? <-- elbonia hth < 1343502306 374444 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was playing in slow mo to check which frames are used in the walking animation < 1343502355 587778 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although i recall it was translated as albanania in my old norwegian larson and/or calvin & hobbes magazines < 1343502382 577655 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :* +[sic] < 1343503001 470737 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@078088172191.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: Wychodzi < 1343503009 894838 :ogrom!~del@143.122.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee QUIT :Quit: Left < 1343503013 761284 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@078088172191.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1343503123 946488 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is useless information but those bars made out of flames in the castles turn out to have 32 phases < 1343503317 138308 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1343503490 353659 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i had an idea. what do you think of a geek code-style colorized code to classify programs on the bfjoust strategies page according to which strategies they use? < 1343503707 502633 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1343503750 899614 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :totally speechless < 1343503769 386636 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1343503775 88198 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you think oerjan < 1343503806 800573 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :geek codes are colorized these days? < 1343503852 963592 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1343503861 258367 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats why i had to add that qualification < 1343504149 965112 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :According to Wikipedia there is a rule in snooker that you have to make an attempt to hit the ball otherwise it is a foul and miss. < 1343504167 489440 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: What idea of colors did you think of? < 1343504236 542667 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What colors do you want? < 1343505397 196647 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want better colours rather than more colours < 1343505447 561480 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :who am i kidding? < 1343505477 837913 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what i want is to make something like super mario bros. but 1)original and 2)better < 1343505494 535240 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahh < 1343505601 667459 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it's like a mathematician saying, i want to make euclid's elements but better < 1343505630 998681 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :except not like that at all < 1343505663 127955 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not my place to speak for math < 1343505739 847339 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :euclid probably wasn't that original < 1343505755 437294 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, no way he invented all of it himself < 1343505770 935250 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikipedia's position is "Although many of the results in Elements originated with earlier mathematicians, one of Euclid's accomplishments was to present them in a single, logically coherent framework, making it easy to use and easy to reference, including a system of rigorous mathematical proofs that remains the basis of mathematics 23 centuries later." < 1343505791 168120 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but, i suppose that means, a single editor on wikipedia decided to take that position < 1343505843 155517 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: heh.. is there any traces of pre-numeric humanity? < 1343505848 154101 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :begs for a citation needed, then < 1343505893 857628 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess this is a difficult question i ask < 1343505897 689525 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21: how in the world would you use scant archeological finds and fossils to detect that someone did _not_ know numbers? < 1343505905 862879 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah... < 1343505925 131667 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although there are supposedly recent tribes which don't count beyond 2 or 3 < 1343506006 468117 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1343506039 480519 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :WP mentions the mesopotamians using base 60 about 5400 years ago.. so it has to be older than that < 1343506056 965631 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe noone will ever know < 1343506090 280942 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :numbers 1-10 in indoeuropean languages are commonly inherited, although i'm not sure how old the proto-language is supposed to be < 1343506122 127267 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :WP also says "The units themselves grew out of the tradition of counting tokens used by the Neolithic (c 6000 BCE) cultural complex of the Near East. < 1343506166 366162 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's _possible_ the need to count a lot of things only started with agriculture < 1343506183 272599 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you needed to know how many sheep you had < 1343506198 520795 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it started with taxation, I think < 1343506198 595896 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, wp is looking back at least 8000 years < 1343506250 103050 :rapido!~rapido@37-251-58-128.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1343506273 881161 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my interpretation of that wp sentence was a bit bad too < 1343506309 914724 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's all sumerian to me < 1343506338 185230 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1343506573 358971 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :" The oldest tally sticks date to between 35,000 and 25,000 years ago, in the form of notched bones found in the context of the European Aurignacian to Gravettian and in Africa's Late Stone Age." < 1343506604 877455 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah.. it could be a long search to find how far back it infact goes < 1343506740 293843 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahh .. this is an exciting explanation of life in 300,000BC < 1343506773 482934 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possessions had to be portable, since they had to be carried around. Everything that could not be carried, was left behind. People had to be quick in movement and reaction; being slow meant instant death. Animals were not the stuffy types we keep in zoos nowadays. They were bigger, fast as lightning and regarded a human just as another piece of juicy meat. And there were no gates or anything to keep t < 1343506773 742887 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hem back. < 1343506876 34800 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So wait, the deer and the rabbits saw humans as another piece of juicy meat? < 1343506929 657658 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, there were no herbivores < 1343507033 549269 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, this may sound rather daft, but what does counting actually bring? < 1343507057 201927 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :bigger and bigger numbers < 1343507065 197373 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know how many of a thing you have < 1343507076 495153 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can tell if you have less or indeed, more < 1343507184 888639 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like for example, i imagine the reason people needed to know how many sheep they had is so that they would know if people stole them etc < 1343507204 190465 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :they hadn't invented crime back then, I think < 1343507233 924406 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe the idea was... so you could tell if you needed to search for a lost sheep? < 1343507244 951004 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1343507252 893051 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.. don't see < 1343507273 963483 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1343507277 206818 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, another benefit of counting < 1343507295 824749 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think one of the first uses was taxation: the accountants put a record of the number of sheep you have so that they know exactly how many sheep to demand of you < 1343507297 57354 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hopes this doesn't mean the disconnections are back again
< 1343507300 241599 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: forgive me if this is like trolling, but what is the main benefit of counting sheep? < 1343507325 421719 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^i mean of knowing how many sheep you have < 1343507327 336180 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, AND you can SEE the fundamental THESIS: TAXATION is THEFT < 1343507382 398700 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21: knowing that you have not lost any when shepherding, or from theft? < 1343507390 537573 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :property is theft, taxation is stealing it back again < 1343507408 214016 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: cool. same conclusions i had < 1343507451 859058 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it really does matter < 1343507500 53386 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because, like, suppose that you spill a bag of apples < 1343507524 159199 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you know how many apples you had, you know when to stop expending energy in search of them < 1343507545 443449 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you can also decide its not enough to expend any energy at all < 1343507558 755453 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : they hadn't invented crime back then, I think < 1343507585 788919 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm going to bet that's older than our species. < 1343507603 915264 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if other species do it, it's not crime :D < 1343507629 912817 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if other species will punish you if you're caught, i think it counts as crime. < 1343507631 400711 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i'm not helping < 1343507659 559665 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i saw on a tv show that monkeys don't like to be cheated at cards < 1343508014 331983 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so in the case of shepharding, if you know you have all your sheep theres no need to waste energy searching for lost sheep < 1343508068 410323 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and in the case of theft, i guess at the least you can relax more if you know noone stole stuff < 1343508100 877425 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but of course this can lead into attachment < 1343508631 576823 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love reading anti-Steam rants from 6 years ago. < 1343508643 976893 :nortti!nortti@smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? < 1343508674 241700 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because some of the commentators are people who will sing Valve's praises loudly today, and in general it's amazing just how much the opinions have whiplashed. < 1343508726 54872 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :plashed by the wii < 1343508796 318172 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even better are when the comments are still open so the top ones are all agreeing and the bottom is vitriolic hatred for the author. < 1343508870 853399 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wants there to be a vitriolic hatred comment that ends with "oh wait, i wrote that"
< 1343508918 162025 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember a similar anecdote with some mathematician being shown his own paper or a derivative of it and saying it was all tosh. < 1343509358 350849 :impomatic!~digital_w@31.185.139.168 JOIN :#esoteric < 1343509417 538441 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION thinks he's seen that guy before
< 1343509448 336342 :impomatic!~digital_w@31.185.139.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently I need to add a MIME map in system.webServer/handlers! Does anyone know how? http://corewar.co.uk/infinano/EERIE.RED < 1343509452 503848 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-15-174.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, who? impomatic? < 1343509472 338681 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: quite possibly < 1343509509 937993 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@078088172191.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1343509523 558336 :impomatic!~digital_w@31.185.139.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION thinks he's seen you guys before!
< 1343509533 35520 :nortti_!~juhani@a91-154-82-93.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1343509647 951154 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: on my website you can put .htaccess files in each directory, i have one containing a line AddType text/plain .pl < 1343509730 100086 :Frooxius|TabletP!~chatzilla@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1343509742 761047 :impomatic!~digital_w@31.185.139.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I don't think .htaccess works on the new server. it's something to do with web.config :-( < 1343509766 62095 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it tried to run my code examples as cgi without it. or maybe it just got some other type which wasn't convenient. < 1343509768 853253 :nortti_!~juhani@a91-154-82-93.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Frooxius|TabletP: what does TabletP mean? < 1343509832 78309 :Frooxius|TabletP!~chatzilla@cust-101.ktknet.cz PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's supposed to be TabletPC < 1343509835 101142 :Frooxius|TabletP!~chatzilla@cust-101.ktknet.cz NICK :Frooxius < 1343509878 275341 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well then, i don't know about the central configuration (i'm not even an admin on the machine) < 1343509954 195275 :derdon!~derdon@pD9E1D5C8.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1343510035 555102 :nortti_!~juhani@a91-154-82-93.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.sitepoint.com/microsoft-drop-trident-from-internet-explorer/ :D < 1343510151 482748 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION was going to complain the link was old
< 1343510193 445654 :nortti_!~juhani@a91-154-82-93.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :why you didn't complain? < 1343510215 146230 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because i actually read down to the quote first. < 1343510230 897299 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-15-174.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just seen the date < 1343510525 534846 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-15-174.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ping < 1343510525 553833 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1343510556 97202 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@swing < 1343510556 117868 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1343511102 958758 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.211 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1343511818 990222 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1343512013 44083 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-15-174.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In decades to come, I'm gonna reminisce about IRC < 1343512028 385037 :nortti_!~juhani@a91-154-82-93.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? < 1343512037 854271 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-15-174.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why not? < 1343512043 931878 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-15-174.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You guys are great < 1343512102 318515 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :awww < 1343512123 917767 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :what will actually happen is that in decades to come, you are still here < 1343512145 81244 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1343512174 687734 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-15-174.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then most of you will be gone, and I'll be annoyed that the young 'uns show no respect? < 1343512192 109304 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-15-174.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Crap, I've been here less than a year < 1343512199 851276 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :then one day the singularity arrives. then you'll still be here, there will just be no world _outside_ the net any more. < 1343512215 242535 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-15-174.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'll be a year next month, I think < 1343512268 776112 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: evidence shows that hexhammers get bored by this channel eventually, then just join occasionally to snark. < 1343512285 254586 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-15-174.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your evidence has a sample size of what? < 1343512286 570476 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-15-174.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :One? < 1343512304 746134 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't say it was _good_ evidence < 1343512371 547633 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I read a book once that said this is the basic law of hexhammery < 1343512377 153673 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it must be true < 1343512397 76127 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-15-174.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a book about Hexham? < 1343512417 692478 :nortti_!~juhani@a91-154-82-93.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am picturing a hammer with hexadecimal numbers written on it < 1343512452 269527 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :malleus malificarum < 1343512462 573514 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's all about hammering hexes < 1343512464 54708 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-15-174.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, was it by David West? < 1343512480 309485 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I don't know, I haven't read it yet < 1343512482 120492 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*maleficarum < 1343512600 235003 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The word hex is a good example of the sort of borrowing from other languages that occurred in the English-speaking former colonies of Great Britain. German and Swiss immigrants who settled in Pennsylvania in the late 17th and 18th centuries spoke a dialect of German known as Pennsylvania Dutch. In this dialect hexe was the equivalent of the German verb hexen, "to practice sorcery." The English verb hex, first recorded in the sense "to practice witchc < 1343512692 497389 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :witchcraft" in an 1830 work called Annals of Philadelphia, is borrowed from Pennsylvania Dutch, as is the noun." < 1343512870 859062 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1343513551 610476 :soundnfury!~edward@109.176.211.127 PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't Hexenhammer a German rock band? < 1343513566 257062 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds plausible < 1343513721 675476 :soundnfury!~edward@109.176.211.127 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Death Metal band from Germany (Paderborn), formed in 1999." sagt last.fm hier: http://www.last.fm/music/Hexenhammer < 1343513777 855430 :soundnfury!~edward@109.176.211.127 PRIVMSG #esoteric :score one for useless cultural facts in school languages lessons < 1343513922 710975 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION recalls reading about the hop gardens of kent
< 1343513963 893545 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :somehow that stuck from one of those < 1343514529 275889 :nortti_!~juhani@a91-154-82-93.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: AndroIRC - Android IRC Client ( http://www.androirc.com ) < 1343514841 83550 :Frooxius!~chatzilla@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1343515280 278212 :rapido!~rapido@37-251-58-128.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl QUIT :Quit: rapido < 1343515357 577111 :Frooxius!~chatzilla@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1343515888 33447 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Good night < 1343516769 382818 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-15-174.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Goodnight < 1343516771 277003 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-15-174.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1343517336 151558 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: 16:15 How can I convert `Maybe a` to `IO ()`? < 1343517340 552049 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Refreshing, isn't it? < 1343517533 397563 :Frooxius!~chatzilla@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88-rdmsoft [XULRunner 1.9.0.17/2009122204] < 1343517564 30632 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm a karma whore. I retyped some idiot's images with just a bunch of words < 1343517579 35870 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not even to promote it particularly, because I disagree with much of it < 1343517579 797849 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/ideasfortheadmins/comments/x9yv5/heres_how_you_fix_reddit/c5klrgh?context=3 < 1343518381 155123 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-149-174.as43234.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1343518487 152845 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: i didnt come up with any details yet. feel free to suggest. < 1343518517 346347 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made some changes to MagicKit assembler, so that the target machine can be specified by command-line switches instead of only by filename, and .ASSIGN command to adjust reserved symbols, and it also includes an emulator now. < 1343518535 410639 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Details of what? < 1343518639 139941 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: a code to classify bfjoust programs based onn the strategies they use < 1343518749 564102 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps you can have: slow/fast, offense/defense, file size, ... < 1343519358 620644 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it OK? < 1343519770 993977 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection