< 1344729681 835416 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oic < 1344729724 457521 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey guys, what's the maximum damage a spider can do to a computer < 1344729818 656622 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :A big enough spider could eat a small enough computer. < 1344729887 630875 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The worst I've seen a spider do is give a BSOD. < 1344730161 695469 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi QUIT :Quit: ( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.22 :: www.esnation.com ) < 1344730343 293958 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Yes that is possible but probably unlikely < 1344730368 212288 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :david_werecat: Probably it would if it would get inside the computer. Otherwise probably nothing. < 1344730596 16309 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :remember the story of where the term "bug" came from < 1344730604 766612 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :insects in general can do some damage < 1344730636 176102 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes it can, especially to older computers. < 1344730651 794365 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spiders are not insects but they can probably do the same damage to computers. < 1344730656 257834 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you leave your computer off, and a spider webs up your intake fan... < 1344730657 517240 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1344730668 644887 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :spiders are arthropods < 1344730675 495800 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and arthropods are bugs < 1344730685 786852 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But either way it probably won't if it does not get inside the computer. < 1344730701 870717 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it'd be tough for a spider to damage a laptop < 1344730918 600521 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: only insects are bugs < 1344730926 447174 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: lies < 1344730930 493287 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Crustaceans are anthropods, would you call them bugs? < 1344730933 492325 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1344730940 292054 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :shrimp are the ants of the sea < 1344730970 245721 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can picture the whales and dolphins swatting at them like gnats < 1344730977 24867 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shrimp don't have any of the social structure of ants < 1344730981 293144 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My mother said the same thing < 1344730987 607351 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, the gnats of the sea < 1344730998 661347 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :And don't swarm around whales or dolphins < 1344731016 824251 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm trying to invoke the smallness and ubiquity of them < 1344731175 806708 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you may be thinking of krill < 1344731217 921131 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, yes, it should be krill. < 1344731238 953113 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it's settled. < 1344731311 665079 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway i have had very little trouble with krill in my laptop. > 1344731739 591770 JOIN :#esoteric < 1344731740 258225 :glogbot!codu@codu.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1344731740 606351 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@64.31.59.246 PART :#esoteric > 1344731743 721687 JOIN :#esoteric > 1344731744 240813 JOIN :#esoteric < 1344731745 425597 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not in scotland, only in australia. < 1344731795 530706 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn suppurate < 1344731796 727130 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*** "suppurate" wn "WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)" < 1344731796 883351 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :suppurate < 1344731797 29437 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : v 1: cause to ripen and discharge pus; "The oil suppurates the < 1344731797 29606 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : pustules" [syn: {suppurate}, {mature}] < 1344731797 29680 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2: ripen and generate pus; "her wounds are festering" [syn: < 1344731798 773182 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : {fester}, {maturate}, {suppurate}] < 1344731811 588397 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION regrets that already.
< 1344731846 552153 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep, it's like pus. < 1344731852 902718 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Blue pus. < 1344731862 572139 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: your computer contains one very ill hooloovoo. hth. < 1344731917 820921 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what colour is hooloovoo medicine < 1344731996 437898 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tricky question < 1344732101 968798 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1344732121 493395 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :they got fizzie too < 1344732121 740134 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dammit fizzie, right when we need you. < 1344732148 342350 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah we need Gregor, he's the color expert < 1344732159 205471 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :_especially_ alien colors < 1344732190 391490 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's moderate cerise. < 1344732271 83707 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :excellent http://www.colourlovers.com/color/A01266/Moderate_Cerise < 1344732319 604881 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie JOIN :#esoteric < 1344732339 145556 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, nope, it's still leaking blue everywhere. < 1344732364 917520 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, I need you to use your magic colour program to calculate moderate cerise. < 1344732376 624789 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: i think hooloovoo medicine needs to be administered using proper prismatic equipment < 1344732542 892664 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, also can you use your wealth of H2G2 knowledge to give me some tips on hooloovoo medicine. < 1344732772 521822 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suspect fizzie might be asleep, filthy european < 1344732810 205746 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait it's sunday. i suspect fizzie might be out partying, filthy european < 1344732852 789954 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm given he spoke at 0:02, maybe a little unlikely < 1344733993 178885 :derdon!~derdon@p5DE890E4.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1344734494 481413 :augur_!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1344734643 462756 :augur!~augur@pool-71-191-108-180.washdc.east.verizon.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1344736721 895298 :hagb4rd!~pedito@212.23.103.25 JOIN :#esoteric < 1344736917 312311 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/tswett/Smokefly - you know, that commit message is highly misleading. < 1344736924 167321 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Change copyright license from BSD to GNU GPL" < 1344736942 909140 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric : it is < 1344736947 857750 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of the files with that message is the GNU GPL. The GNU GPL was never available under the BSD license, and it is not available under the GNU GPL. < 1344736957 121495 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1344736962 173820 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, just to spite you < 1344736970 414373 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ima go grab a copy from just before the license switch < 1344736974 546462 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and start coding on it and distributing it < 1344736975 633792 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Two of the files with that message are now in the public domain, rather than available under the GNU GPL. < 1344736988 322976 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably untrue < 1344736999 314706 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :most countries' laws don't have a concept of "public domain" per se < 1344737011 526965 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :And two of the files with that message are available under the GNU GPL, but still also available under the BSD license, because licenses don't just go away. < 1344737617 414665 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1344738059 646672 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why the license switch? < 1344739229 705486 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1344739358 241632 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also want to know why < 1344739380 46787 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And why are two of those files in the public domain? < 1344741595 650015 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1344743243 187448 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: because if people modify it, I want them to release the modified version under the same license. < 1344743482 20177 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Am I evil for selling software? < 1344743532 967962 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: because they're not software, and producing them did not require a significant amount of effort. < 1344743534 542970 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Note that this is not a response to your license thing) < 1344743535 995699 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: not in my opinion. < 1344743579 150830 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I wonder, if I gave it away back then, would the scourge of poseballs be non-existent? < 1344743627 943266 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a poseball < 1344743628 791435 :augur_!~augur@208.58.5.87 NICK :augur < 1344743666 426592 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://secondlife.wikia.com/wiki/Poseball "A poseball is a common kind of scripted object in Second Life, appearring as a round colored sphere. There purpose is to play an animation on the avatar that sits on them." < 1344743703 527610 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1344743710 920676 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...thanks? < 1344743748 544643 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You did ask what a poseball is, and that is the answer. < 1344743751 443098 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They annoy me. < 1344743778 81043 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I called my product the "antiposeball" < 1344743800 665213 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://marketplace.secondlife.com/p/Antiposeball-5-SAVE-PRIMS-ON-FURNITURE/219014 < 1344744471 486652 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1344744711 517412 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1344745017 447055 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1344746522 700071 :mig22!~miguelort@bb116-15-1-16.singnet.com.sg JOIN :#esoteric < 1344748344 185867 :ogrom!~del@143.122.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1344750651 943982 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :22:50 elliott was last seen on #haskell 60 days, 5 hours, 24 minutes and 34 seconds ago, saying: teneen: That doesn't really clarify to me. < 1344750845 541579 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Good night < 1344751698 161829 :ogrom!~del@143.122.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee QUIT :Quit: Left < 1344751719 146781 :ogrom!~del@143.122.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1344755932 565282 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would think one CPU instruction for bitwise calculation should be one like INTERCAL's select operator except that the nonselected bits are just moved instead of deleted. It would be useful for some things and if you have AND/OR/XOR as well, then you could implement some other things with this too. < 1344755940 969375 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@078088172191.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1344756056 947302 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such as if it is a C code binary ~ operator then implement INTERCAL select by ((x~y)&(y~y)) < 1344756066 747428 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another things might be wanted is the Muxcomp stuff. < 1344756256 522944 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.211 JOIN :#esoteric < 1344756346 258844 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have written most of a program called Famitile, except: full documentation, load/save in GUI, nametable editor. (Load/save already works for command-line, and you can also use any command-line operation in lastline mode in the GUI, though) < 1344756575 470188 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I intend to support both standard nametables and MMC5 nametables. < 1344757294 103204 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: Right < 1344759180 558113 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-9-82.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1344760771 352713 :kmc_!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net NICK :kmc < 1344761299 298138 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i propose a railway! < 1344761456 650970 :mig22!~miguelort@bb116-15-1-16.singnet.com.sg QUIT :Quit: mig22 < 1344761511 250684 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :high speed line from Helsinki to Tallinn (through a tunnel) and on to Tartu, Riga, Kaunas (with a branch to Vilnius), Białystok, and Warszawa < 1344761579 387927 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :They sought it with thimbles, they sought it with care; / They pursued it with forks and hope; / They threatened its life with a railway-share; / They charmed it with smiles and soap. < 1344761742 484176 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, kmc. Talking about trains even in #mosh. < 1344761748 500310 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1344761752 996953 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey i wasn't the one who brought it up < 1344761856 265916 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok it looks like i am not the only one to propose this railway < 1344761857 13814 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rail_Baltica < 1344762010 259345 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Don't you hate it when you ask a Haskell question and the answer turns out to be the Yoneda lemma? < 1344762028 391043 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the yoneda lemma again? < 1344762040 250525 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :16:55 basically the yoneda lemma says in big fancy words that forall r. (a -> r) -> f r is isomorphic to f a < 1344762043 327255 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :16:57 It basically says something way more general than that. :) < 1344762045 853979 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :16:58 yes, the actual lemma is much more powerful < 1344762048 389815 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :16:58 but when translated and embedded in haskell for a 'Functor' with a capital f, thats the takeaway < 1344762077 557896 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel like I'm missing a whole world of category theory. < 1344762086 663515 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :More useless than even the most useless Haskell code could ever be. < 1344762219 681908 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Norway is called Norvēģija in Latvian? < 1344762225 90372 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a good name. < 1344762240 219626 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Are you still in the Latvia? < 1344762397 981434 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yes < 1344762436 426569 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :going to go AK-47 shooting in a bit < 1344762438 240840 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if all goes well < 1344762451 966621 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tomorrow i will take a bus to Tallinn and the next day a ferry to Helsinki < 1344762459 605246 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can see why I would be interested in high speed rail in the area! < 1344762478 994485 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders if he should join #trains or something
< 1344762496 729483 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You won't be an op. < 1344762557 63496 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so? < 1344762598 942534 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So someone has presumably been there before. < 1344762618 694184 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, now ChanServ is in there. Weird. < 1344762728 523485 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, i just assumed it would be a real channel < 1344762737 562608 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i am disappointed < 1344762857 753072 :lin19897485!~root@119.142.210.167 JOIN :#esoteric < 1344762949 692769 :lin19897485!~root@119.142.210.167 PART :#esoteric < 1344763415 183639 :Eladith!~eladith@gzrrplox.kortex.jyu.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1344763832 548436 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-126-72.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1344763852 303271 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :latvia.. ah yes. they won the bmx race! < 1344764676 645420 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :leaving australia with silver < 1344764699 276567 :derdon!~derdon@p5DE892CF.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1344766933 432263 :derdon!~derdon@p5DE892CF.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1344768222 470225 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-9-82.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1344769031 901991 :ogrom!~del@143.122.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee QUIT :Quit: Left < 1344769791 607480 :lilja_!~lilja@cs27103076.pp.htv.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1344773356 984921 :sirdancealot7!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1344773834 195627 :ogrom!~del@143.122.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1344774570 758262 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-219-42.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1344774605 520788 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-9-82.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1344774734 452859 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1344774880 763181 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1344774918 148794 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-9-82.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1344775472 398239 :pikhq_!~pikhq@70-56-224-137.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1344775517 16445 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-146-61.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1344776164 955070 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1344776642 412423 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1344776647 695521 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1344777500 437761 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1344777543 511975 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.211 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1344780535 654927 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1344781395 356286 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1344781396 868210 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11922134/haskell-how-to-increment-i-i1 < 1344781401 207751 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PART :#esoteric < 1344782211 385508 :lexande_!~lexande@91.105.3.118 JOIN :#esoteric < 1344782263 727066 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1344782423 694794 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Leonard Nimoy Laserdisc Demo http://youtu.be/0f3524BQ0Ms < 1344782839 912220 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The one answer to that question is brilliantly evil. < 1344782938 325475 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1344782942 208425 :derdon!~derdon@p5DE892CF.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1344783110 793034 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The answer to the question is by the person asking the question. < 1344783230 774298 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh wow you're right, that just makes it even better. < 1344783611 255812 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In the summer of 2012, members of Ansar Dine broke down the doors of the Sidi Yahya Mosque, which according to legend were not to be opened until the Last Days. They claimed that reverence for the site was idolatrous, but offered roughly $100 US dollars to repair the mosque." < 1344783882 242723 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: would this be more evil? http://hpaste.org/52268 < 1344783943 852293 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh, maybe from a technical standpoint, but I think the obfuscation makes it less misleading. < 1344784432 724404 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-9-82.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1344784456 709754 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should contribute to haskell stack overflow more < 1344784468 660667 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :SO improves on IRC with respect to the things i complain about #haskell < 1344785355 977877 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1344786655 228054 :sirdancealot7!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1344786914 798055 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Did the legend specified what would happen if the doors were to open? < 1344786968 96177 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no idea < 1344787133 981639 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :" it takes a lot of time and practice to think functional instead of imperative." < 1344787147 779003 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Weird, as soon as I saw functional programming, I didn't have much trouble comprehending it < 1344787295 395774 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then, I had really good resources about it at hand < 1344787475 596286 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://twitter.com/SarcasticRover/status/234677032456450048 < 1344787632 710481 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: how much imperative programming had you done before that? < 1344787638 10825 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the two aren't really in opposition either < 1344787650 285003 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :combining functional and imperative techniques is very powerful < 1344787656 829781 :AnotherTest!~tim@d51A4C649.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1344787659 617277 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not just "this part is functional, that part is imperative" but actually using them together < 1344787662 563437 :AnotherTest!~tim@d51A4C649.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello hello < 1344787670 927649 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello test person < 1344787702 982404 :AnotherTest!~tim@d51A4C649.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello algorithm < 1344787727 482438 :AnotherTest!~tim@d51A4C649.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunately I should lookup what the KMC algorithm did again :( < 1344787778 273855 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :knuth - morris - carlsberg < 1344787820 299269 :AnotherTest!~tim@d51A4C649.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :something with substrings I recall < 1344787844 102530 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: popular languages force you to use mutable variables even when it's not conceptually necessary < 1344787848 883875 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or anyway they make it cumbersome to do otherwise < 1344787866 899166 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so people get used to thinking in terms of mutable variables, when there is often a simpler explanation in terms of immutable values < 1344787900 22638 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good programmers and good languages transcend "paradigm" and let you use whichever style(s) are appropriate < 1344788063 141941 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :butts < 1344788080 952513 :AnotherTest!~tim@d51A4C649.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: that seems like the reason why I dislike to use Java < 1344788112 462847 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1344788116 292139 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Java is the #1 culprit here < 1344788130 989893 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the style Java forces on you is appropriate for some tasks < 1344788134 391042 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but Java forces it for every task < 1344788163 182344 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Java sort of exists to tie the hands of good programmers while preventing bad programmers from doing too much damage < 1344788179 297390 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in order to make creating boring business software a more repeatable process < 1344788219 301963 :AnotherTest!~tim@d51A4C649.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :what I dislike in Java code a lot for example is an "Utility class" < 1344788275 939996 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: My first language was C < 1344788284 31951 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I still use C widely < 1344788311 384966 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: yeah < 1344788319 555332 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's funny because people hold up Java as the pinnacle of OOP < 1344788329 947134 :AnotherTest!~tim@d51A4C649.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1344788330 596229 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lol < 1344788337 431531 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Java as pinnacle of OOP < 1344788342 104357 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but OOP philosophy would say you should creat objects which model your problem domain < 1344788345 394102 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Smalltalk is the pinnacle < 1344788352 707410 :AnotherTest!~tim@d51A4C649.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm. < 1344788361 367999 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Racket is okish < 1344788363 237655 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas in Java you need all these nonsense classes which represent things that would be basic control flow elements in another language < 1344788418 909886 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shrug < 1344788421 724668 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a canned rant of mine < 1344788424 641424 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not saying anything new < 1344788431 843750 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :today i went shooting guns for the first time < 1344788441 912343 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fired a Glock 17, an AK-103, and a pump action shotgun < 1344788446 761065 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sadly the AK was semiauto only < 1344788455 703774 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it is probably very dangerous to let untrained shooters fire full auto < 1344788849 438981 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-9-82.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This day is called the feast of Crispia < 1344788850 126610 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-9-82.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :n < 1344788862 484830 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-9-82.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :He that outlives this day and comes safe home < 1344788876 123966 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-9-82.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Will stand tiptoe when this day is named < 1344788891 339105 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-9-82.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And rouse him at the name of Crispian < 1344788904 725995 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-9-82.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :He that shall see this day and live to old age < 1344788917 792623 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-9-82.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Will yearly on the vigil feast his neighbours < 1344788936 878454 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-9-82.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And say "Tomorrow is St Crispian" < 1344788958 787487 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-9-82.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then he will strip his sleeve and show his scars < 1344788979 442348 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-9-82.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And say "These wounds I got on St Crispian" < 1344789366 708020 :AnotherTest!~tim@d51A4C649.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :taneb < 1344789386 923254 :AnotherTest!~tim@d51A4C649.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Willt thou draw near the nature of the gods? < 1344789407 445409 :AnotherTest!~tim@d51A4C649.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Draw near them then < 1344789412 515232 :AnotherTest!~tim@d51A4C649.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :in being merciful < 1344789466 624267 :AnotherTest!~tim@d51A4C649.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry that I could not reply to your earlier Richard II < 1344789474 443643 :AnotherTest!~tim@d51A4C649.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :my connection was bad < 1344789495 583468 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :THATS NOT IN THE PLAY < 1344789516 525259 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-9-82.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm more of an Oscar Wilde fan, anyway < 1344789599 30251 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-9-82.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, I'm off now < 1344789602 22035 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-9-82.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Dinner < 1344790427 739539 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: It's very dangerous to let untrained people shoot any gun < 1344790465 154005 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Other than as part of training, with someone watching over them < 1344790559 277333 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1344790563 418552 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, this was kind of training < 1344790568 527863 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was a person there telling us what to do < 1344790599 390318 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : i think it is probably very dangerous to let untrained shooters fire full auto < 1344790619 349036 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it still seemed pretty lax compared to what i imagine a first gun course in the USA is like < 1344790622 382214 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but maybe i imagine wrong < 1344790632 120230 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought full-auto was, like, not useful. < 1344790635 784216 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or something. < 1344790647 852492 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1344790652 924965 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :after a few rounds your aim is way off < 1344790662 848712 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that one. < 1344790663 644496 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's still useful for suppression fire though < 1344790665 888051 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i imagine < 1344790670 473445 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(don't actually know anything) < 1344790677 45003 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think most militaries encourage the use of 3-round bursts < 1344790753 569096 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also full auto is good for indiscriminately murdering protesters < 1344790937 570311 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dinner bbl < 1344791287 17805 :lexande_!~lexande@91.105.3.118 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1344791432 267457 :derdon!~derdon@p5DE892CF.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1344791608 386039 :AnotherTest!~tim@d51A4C649.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1344791891 134889 :AnotherTest!~tim@d51A4C649.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1344792178 146330 :AnotherTest1!~tim@d51A4C649.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1344792192 427039 :AnotherTest!~tim@d51A4C649.access.telenet.be QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1344792200 753452 :AnotherTest1!~tim@d51A4C649.access.telenet.be NICK :AnotherTest < 1344792510 730268 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-145-253.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1344792533 138912 :pikhq_!~pikhq@70-56-224-137.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1344793199 445050 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :"There, I just saved you 1 day of WHAAAAAAAAA!" good summary < 1344793273 794489 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, great, now someone’s advocating the shadowing of variables. < 1344793340 17138 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :And someone else NIH’d lenses in shkler answer. < 1344793353 314430 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe he means he saved it on stack overflow so that if we ever need "1 day of WHAAAAAAAAA!" we know where to find it < 1344794943 254665 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shadowing is basically mutation. < 1344794956 253453 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why should I have to write my program in SSA form? That's what my compiler is for! < 1344795123 531189 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION tries to wake up.
< 1344795136 159114 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@078088172191.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1344795445 33956 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-9-82.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1344796657 599347 :ogrom!~del@143.122.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee QUIT :Quit: Left < 1344796781 127255 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1344797507 130341 :TeruFSX_!~quassel@174-20-34-153.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1344798182 981955 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1344799788 88506 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I cannot beat BUZZSAW MCGRAW < 1344799811 248719 :AnotherTest!~tim@d51A4C649.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1344800564 417189 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hichaf < 1344800591 454862 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-9-82.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, is the problem you need to learn the power of friendship? < 1344800631 888411 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt that will make any difference here < 1344800872 2164 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: hi < 1344800905 496776 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is about to go off to Berkeley. Will be back $SOMETIME.
< 1344800913 181683 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh what's in berkeley < 1344800940 702397 :cheater!~cheater@p4FD0E38A.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1344800943 80777 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :$PLAY, $FRIEND, etc. < 1344801045 904060 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :have fun playing with your friend < 1344801539 27184 :lexande_!~lexande@91.105.3.118 JOIN :#esoteric < 1344801706 891222 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi lexande_ < 1344801729 9174 :lexande_!~lexande@91.105.3.118 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi kmc < 1344801801 187836 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have discussed and changed my digital video signal design to use single signals instead of pairs, so that it has four red, four green, four blue, one clock, one synchronize, one power, and the rest ground, using a twenty-pin cable. The aspect ratio is always a power of 4:3. < 1344801898 828007 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So this means two clocks per pixel. A screen of half a pixel means to turn off the picture. < 1344802048 530593 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-9-82.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, power of love? < 1344802080 299208 :cheater!~cheater@p4FD0E38A.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1344802193 8956 :lexande_!~lexande@91.105.3.118 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1344802421 344889 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tabeb: ? < 1344802422 171368 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1344802707 125281 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: The world has pretty much moved to packet-based serial buses even with video. < 1344803176 280025 :lexande_!~lexande@91.105.3.245 JOIN :#esoteric < 1344803222 167023 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-9-82.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, maybe to defeat Buzzsaw McGraw you first need to defeat yourself < 1344803613 494996 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I do not get an option to fight myself, it just lists the valid opponents (which changes sometimes) and then you have to pick one. So, there is no option to fight yourself. < 1344803632 884190 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-9-82.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, I'm pretending this is a movie for fun < 1344803642 807791 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-9-82.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I'm your mentor figure or something < 1344803650 458015 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1344803714 340060 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: What clock speed is needed for that? I think my format is simple and is better. < 1344803752 373885 :lexande_!~lexande@91.105.3.245 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1344803999 540141 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: DisplayPort supports other color spaces than just the limited sRGB, other aspect ratios than just 4:3, stereoscopic images etc. and you can carry protocols such as USB, Ethernet and PCIe over it as well. Wikipedia says the widest and fastest DisplayPort bus achieves 17.28 Gbit/s < 1344804081 824930 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, better color resolutions than whatever your limit is. < 1344804103 499257 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that is too complicated. My system does support aspect ratios other than 4:3 as long as they are a power of 4:3 (so 1:1 and 16:9 are also accepted), but data is only one way, which has some advantages. < 1344804155 72991 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My system is 2 clocks per pixel, so it is 24-bit color. < 1344804193 600377 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The most common aspect ratios for movies nowadays are 1.85:1 and 2.39:1. < 1344804324 126119 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why? Well, they can still be used just make part of the screen black (can also be used for status information). < 1344804455 672599 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :TV screens are going to be 4:3 or 16:9 anyways, and you can use 64:27 if necessary. < 1344804515 83293 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But this digital RGB system is also mostly for computers rather than TV, anyways, even though it can be implemented on TV screens too. < 1344804684 595506 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1344806715 594075 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1344806797 764389 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1344806967 150177 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: recognizing a distinction between TVs and computer monitors seems extremely quaint < 1344807003 779604 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-9-82.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That reminds me, I need a new computer monitor < 1344807037 19945 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-9-82.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mine is a) 12 years old, and b) broken < 1344807175 702069 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :TVs have hardware to allow you to watch images and listen to sounds sent over radio waves < 1344807227 330995 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :CRT TVs don't really have the concept of a pixel, LCD and plasma TVs tend to have bigger pixels than computer monitors < 1344807255 736955 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-145-253.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: A modern TV has hardware to allow you to watch an MPEG-2 bitstream sent over radio waves. < 1344807273 968128 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1344807288 89965 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Which still counts as images and sounds sent over radio waves < 1344807293 625867 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :The encoding doesn't matter < 1344807294 357347 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-145-253.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As well as hardware to watch a framebuffer sent via HDMI. < 1344807308 577561 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-145-253.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whereas a computer monitor just has hardware to watch a framebuffer sent via HDMI. < 1344807350 613245 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about wireless HDMI < 1344807356 286484 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about streaming MPEG streams over wifi < 1344807397 679332 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-9-82.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dear god I suck at pop culture < 1344807405 897003 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i've seen things which are marketed primarily as computer monitors (small, high dpi) but have a tuner built in < 1344807500 781606 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Not necessarily HDMI < 1344807504 177795 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could be DVI or VGA < 1344807525 820305 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-145-253.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: Or CGA? < 1344807529 235225 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could connect old TVs to computers using S-VIDEO < 1344807542 274089 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: VGA still gets used =P < 1344807559 184470 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :My desktop's monitor has a VGA port and DVI port < 1344807578 358363 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-145-253.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, but it's increasingly outdated... < 1344807625 786200 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :HDMI and DVI use the same kind of signal so you can buy simple plugs that convert between the two < 1344807637 619886 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not entirely true < 1344807647 624193 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's more like, HDMI devices are able to downgrade to the DVI protocol < 1344807649 156480 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought < 1344807653 472329 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :VGA is still common < 1344807660 682085 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least, in my experience < 1344807669 396972 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I do think it doesn't work for encrypted stuff < 1344807674 736826 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yeah < 1344807675 47207 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know you need not distinguish between TV/computer, but you can if you want to. But some devices can act as both. < 1344807685 25444 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :This laptop has HDMI and VGA ports < 1344807697 368514 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess DVI is too big of a port for laptop nowadays < 1344807711 163098 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Despite my laptop from 2005 having enough space for a printer port < 1344807717 965011 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thinkpads ship with displayport now < 1344807719 852408 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not that it's too big, it's just that it's uncommon < 1344807731 593602 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :macs have their own micro-displayport or whatever < 1344807735 603614 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least, in the average of all laptops that see use < 1344807742 620376 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :VGA is still the common denominator for presentation projectors < 1344807746 725858 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: I never saw a monitor with HDMI rather than DVI < 1344807752 917331 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :DisplayPort is nice < 1344807753 63506 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I guess I'm outdated < 1344807758 836839 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: I was referring to VGA < 1344807766 8179 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: that's because if it had HDMI, you would call it a television < 1344807766 497036 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :;P < 1344807776 711256 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-9-82.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, on the inside of my mind I've had George Michael mixed up with Guy Fieri all along < 1344807777 288220 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :HDMI costs extra $$ because of HDCP < 1344807780 693680 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Modern TV sets take too long for turning on < 1344807798 684100 :hagb4rd!~pedito@212.23.103.25 QUIT :Quit: hagb4rd < 1344807802 39206 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-145-253.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: HDMI 1.0 is nothing more than DVI-D with a smaller connector and support in the protocol for audio packets. < 1344807802 725941 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for a while i ran my monitors through a long DVI-HDMI cable with a HDMI-DVI adapter on one end < 1344807810 411658 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus making a DVI-DVI cable < 1344807842 807570 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-9-82.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This explains a lot < 1344807844 415948 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :true story < 1344807848 973247 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-9-82.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it doesn't. < 1344807849 214694 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :then i found five dollars < 1344807850 763153 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like those kinds of display signal (DVI, HDMI, DisplayPort, ATSC) they are complicated and encrypted and have patent issues and so on. < 1344807860 625640 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :DVI isn't < 1344807861 335158 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-9-82.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really care who either of those people are < 1344807863 248469 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least, not usually < 1344807864 603635 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can be < 1344807872 810428 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :same with DisplayPort aiui < 1344807875 810348 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: what about George Michael Bluth < 1344807879 595027 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-145-253.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Technically, HDCP is optional on DVI, HDMI, and DisplayPort. < 1344807887 631500 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :in practice, HDCP is not optional on HDMI < 1344807887 777612 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-9-82.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, I care about him even less < 1344807892 903443 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-145-253.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: And ATSC is perfectly in the clear. < 1344807930 694145 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some feature I dislike about ATSC is not only the video/audio codecs, I also dislike virtual channel numbers. < 1344807947 747325 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-145-253.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not even a ludicrously complicated display signal: it's an MPEG transport stream with quadrature amplitude modulation. < 1344808060 135082 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then why is it so slow? Or is ATSC not what makes it slow? < 1344808064 699205 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :“ You could connect old TVs to computers using S-VIDEO” I have a computer connected to my main monitor using S-Video. < 1344808093 285703 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-145-253.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Yeah, that's a fairly *weird* UI mapping of the fact that a given radio allocation broadcasts its own radio stream, and we call those "channels", and that a given MPEG transport stream can have multiple programs in it, and we would also call those "channels"... < 1344808097 946061 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: *Everything* has patent issues. Hello World probably has patent issues. < 1344808106 698218 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-145-253.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: ATSC isn't inherently very slow. < 1344808126 523212 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Software patents shouldn't exist < 1344808127 430519 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Then it must be something else that makes it slow, such as having an operating system or something like that < 1344808140 837277 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-145-253.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Well. Before you can begin displaying you need to wait for a key frame, but that is literally *all* the lag there is. < 1344808163 673110 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even I have a VCR/DVD combination including ATSC, and it is very slow even if ATSC is not being used. < 1344808189 812739 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-145-253.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: The issue is that a lot of embedded software is developed by idiots. < 1344808205 896364 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-145-253.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is how we get TVs with bootup times. < 1344808211 244315 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, yes, maybe that is what makes it slow. < 1344808245 137 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-145-253.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because they run Linux, and... I guess use a "normal" init scheme? < 1344808252 12789 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Btw, Commodore 64’s almost-S-Video output has *much* better quality than its composite output. That probably applies to all S-Video and equivalent composite signals, but C64 is the only thing whose outputs i’ve compared.) < 1344808276 363685 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-145-253.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: That should be true of any comparison between something with S-Video and composite out. < 1344808335 809552 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes it is what I said I think running an operating system (whether it is Linux, Windows, or something else) would make it slow. < 1344808365 127221 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess an RGB or YPbPr output would have much better quality again. < 1344808365 627099 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-145-253.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: A Linux system *can* boot in a second or so if you know what you're doing. < 1344808368 937137 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-145-253.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: They don't. < 1344808383 595508 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think one of the fastest operating system is DOS, and there is FreeDOS as well which is also fast. < 1344808395 538379 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-145-253.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: S-Video has luma on one wire and chroma on another, so you don't have to do any filtering on the signal to get luma and chroma. < 1344808418 604390 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-145-253.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Also, S-Video has more bandwidth, so you inherently get a better signal. < 1344808419 841013 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Doesn’t the chroma wire encode two signals using modulation? < 1344808434 516198 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-145-253.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Yes, U and V. < 1344808451 903659 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Split that into two wires without modulation, i’d expect to see a better picture still. < 1344808460 934543 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-145-253.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, that's called component video. < 1344808479 978097 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :So are RGB and YPbPr, that’s why i mentioned them. :-P < 1344808480 858288 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-145-253.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it does give you better picture still. < 1344808508 512242 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-145-253.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Specifically, that's YPbPr component video. < 1344808525 642636 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: DOS doesn't imply MS-DOS < 1344808547 89505 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: I know, it can be FreeDOS as well, which is just as fast as MS-DOS. < 1344808620 619977 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :QDOS, DR-DOS, PC-DOS, PTR-DOS, ROM-DOS, Novell DOS, OpenDOS, many others because a DOS is easy to write < 1344808667 99936 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-145-253.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, yeah; DOS is little more than a standard library, a shell, and a couple utilities. < 1344808688 757015 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo, copy, prompt, etc < 1344808781 136062 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :AmigaDOS < 1344809027 926891 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :AmigaDOS had different commands and syntax < 1344809094 743151 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-219-42.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1344809658 500520 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.211 JOIN :#esoteric < 1344809803 533949 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-146-130.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1344809908 433910 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-145-253.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1344810039 870183 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know any open source software for emulating NTSC color artifacts? < 1344810144 662560 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose it wouldn’t be too difficult to write a GLSL shader for that. < 1344811247 239018 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-9-82.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1344811530 170088 :lilja_!~lilja@cs27103076.pp.htv.fi QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1344812409 578828 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.211 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1344812655 484176 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oops I found something wrong with MediaWiki when cutting off text in the search results it cut off in the middle of a UTF-8 code < 1344813019 632787 :derdon!~derdon@p5DE892CF.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1344813098 591828 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://imgur.com/OcBuk < 1344813102 80762 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :deserts! \o/ < 1344813248 2308 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hooray for desolation! < 1344813258 522034 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: hooray for mars :) < 1344813288 466600 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. I really wouldn't have guessed. *shrugs* < 1344813356 997705 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1344813377 520764 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moar: http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl/multimedia/raw/ < 1344813377 666704 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :theres something intense about seeing something so mundane < 1344813382 170190 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and knowing its on another planet < 1344813524 409437 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: I was trying to find a way to express exactly that, and you've done a better job of it. < 1344813570 384209 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: you're the third person to tell me that < 1344813631 420639 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. Well, here's something intense from right here on planet Earth: http://youtu.be/pkV6hX66HO0 http://youtu.be/FvNmA7FSCW0 < 1344814417 411054 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1344814693 816305 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1344814828 410097 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1344814944 509249 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds