< 1345680624 575334 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.114.182.202 PART :#esoteric < 1345680944 291494 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1345681535 514123 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-137-141.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1345681658 358467 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-147-49.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1345682172 26835 :derdon!~derdon@p5DE8BC7F.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1345682718 531287 :nooga!~nooga@dwe98.internetdsl.tpnet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1345684091 470441 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin NICK :gpumpwell < 1345684396 678710 :gpumpwell!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin NICK :copumpkin < 1345685314 839119 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders if strong commutative encryption is actually possible.
< 1345685322 909342 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm asking if anyone knows, if it's not clear.) < 1345685447 129846 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65-183-140-119-dhcp.burlingtontelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: http://crypto.stackexchange.com/questions/1363/software-implementation-of-a-commutative-cipher < 1345685449 133711 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was wondering the same thing a few years ago actually. < 1345685467 175740 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65-183-140-119-dhcp.burlingtontelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not strong, anymore, I guess, but it's a starting point < 1345686560 713880 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: are you CTFing? < 1345686573 824315 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :has anyone ced t f < 1345686598 155781 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not yet < 1345686621 937866 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i got to the last level, then decided i've done enough for the day < 1345686704 208031 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Yes, though I've also been distracted with other things. < 1345686722 542590 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Are we spoilering in here?) < 1345686834 151007 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno < 1345686856 398864 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65-183-140-119-dhcp.burlingtontelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What CTF is this? < 1345686863 634407 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :stripe-ctf.com < 1345686893 275163 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: When I got to level 4 it was down, so I downloaded the code and tried to make it work locally. < 1345686907 248675 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If my hypothesis is correct it's impossible to do locally because of an extra server-side component. < 1345686970 893320 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :true, though that component is nothing special < 1345687025 565782 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, sure, I can emulate it myself if I know that it exists. < 1345687068 739259 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I was assuming my local copy was equivalent to the server. < 1345687088 285811 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're exploiting a web application that has other concurrent users < 1345687095 886100 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1345687097 524885 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the download does not include an emulation of those users < 1345687106 248905 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep. < 1345687113 602456 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I explicitly commented on this before the CTF started. < 1345687138 378952 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, got it. < 1345687156 202956 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, apparently Vi Hart's father is a maths professor. < 1345687164 583653 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That... explains a good few things. < 1345688385 743457 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65-183-140-119-dhcp.burlingtontelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is kinda fun. < 1345690192 633920 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1345690216 362489 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1345690281 975632 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am addicted to the SCP wiki < 1345690488 578079 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1345690500 149821 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1345691440 157193 :TeruFSX2!~TeruFSX@c-75-72-215-30.hsd1.mn.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1345691479 347016 :TeruFSX2!~TeruFSX@c-75-72-215-30.hsd1.mn.comcast.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1345691928 739045 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, fortunately you'll burn through the good content pretty quickly. < 1345691972 133977 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then you rapidly realise that a lot of it is dreck that's either formulaic or written by people who don't get lasting horror. < 1345692002 949777 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Too often the author's thought of the trick already and gives away too much. < 1345692076 938140 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65-183-140-119-dhcp.burlingtontelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Have you played Slender, at all? < 1345692095 311646 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, and there is very little that will make me do so. < 1345692126 473937 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65-183-140-119-dhcp.burlingtontelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh? I downloaded it last week but I haven't run it, yet. < 1345692138 242061 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I scare *incredibly* easily. < 1345692193 475704 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65-183-140-119-dhcp.burlingtontelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neat < 1345692196 506850 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did not sleep at all the night after first browsing the SCP wiki, or after reading some Slenderman stuff. < 1345692215 400477 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65-183-140-119-dhcp.burlingtontelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slenderman was fascinating for a week or two. < 1345692219 88420 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65-183-140-119-dhcp.burlingtontelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love well-done horror < 1345692232 740094 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just can't stop myself from throwing reason to the wind and scaring myself shitless, which is a pity because I love well-done horror too. < 1345692235 972008 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65-183-140-119-dhcp.burlingtontelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't show me the monster, make me fear him < 1345692251 445066 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like alcohol but with a hangover that can linger for months I guess. < 1345692330 976552 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65-183-140-119-dhcp.burlingtontelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The worst bit of it is how it draws you in. Once I get on a creepypasta kick or some kind of new horror binge, I just can't stop until I'm thoroughly tweaked < 1345692408 441405 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think SCP wiki they keep deleting too many files. < 1345692454 220024 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe that's part of the horror. (but probably not) < 1345692490 261214 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, there's so much material I haven't seen before < 1345692495 204715 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-453 < 1345692515 341307 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :They also don't give enough detail of experiments. I have many idea of the kind of experiments but I don't tell them (they are not open enough) and even if I did, I don't think they would know how to do it; they are the most difficult kind of thought experiments. < 1345692736 673257 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, yes, but most of it is crap. < 1345692753 285149 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 confirmed as lovecraftian horror. < 1345692783 950506 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, one of my favorites was deleted some time ago < 1345692787 304936 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, have you read the various Foundation fictions BtW. < 1345692806 779290 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was a gem (a ruby I think) that needed to be suspended in mercury in a thing that rotated < 1345692808 633168 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some of them are pretty good, especially the now-deleted Wanderlust. < 1345692813 571712 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, the Foundation Tales? Yeah < 1345692818 819892 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, some of them < 1345692829 961351 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What was the ruby one. < 1345692831 13737 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there's a new thing, A something something something, that I don't know about < 1345692854 951411 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, it would destroy solid objects it was on < 1345692893 974333 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo has obviously been reading a little too heavily on... 512? 505? Whichever it is that's impossible to remember. < 1345692919 140594 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, also uh how did that work, was it a gradual decay process? < 1345692941 288249 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, I don't remember < 1345692970 203926 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it was found at the bottom of the sea on some shipwreck. I think it was deleted because it should have destroyed the Earth already. < 1345692980 613893 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's kind of fun to look through the deleted SCPs sometimes though. < 1345692988 734841 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm, s/deleted/deprecated/. < 1345693007 703942 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because some of them were actually pretty well-known mainstays, like telekill alloy. < 1345693334 520824 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in reality scp is the military version of wikileaks < 1345693389 830437 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i say this from a position that i don't want to read scp because of the chance it might actually be scary < 1345693789 357545 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, Are We Cool Yet? < 1345693797 306008 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1345693825 762192 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, that's the A something something something I said I was unfamiliar with < 1345693831 809695 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.scp-wiki.net/groups-of-interest#toc1 < 1345693874 615872 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's ten to fucking five, sgeo < 1345693881 907072 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am not following any links to scp at this hour < 1345693907 832551 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20, some of them are, some of them aren;t. < 1345693910 88627 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aren't. < 1345693992 268763 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1345694831 833809 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65-183-140-119-dhcp.burlingtontelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: What about tvtropes? http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ButNotTooWhite < 1345694850 5768 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover quit. < 1345694882 880763 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1345694937 560055 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65-183-140-119-dhcp.burlingtontelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aww. I turned join/part display off the other day due to noise, but now I just look a fool :/ < 1345695115 36955 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use something WeeChat calls a “smart filter”. It only hides those lines from users who haven’t been talking for an hour. (And you can toggle their visibility afterwards, too.) < 1345695147 937964 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :For instance, Phantom_Hoover’s quit line is visible for me, but that’s the only one for 6 hours. < 1345695277 636379 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65-183-140-119-dhcp.burlingtontelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that's neat. I should see if there's a setting like that < 1345695289 517489 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65-183-140-119-dhcp.burlingtontelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If not, time for a feature request < 1345695319 696633 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, an hour in my settings. The default was shorter, i think. < 1345695440 192310 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65-183-140-119-dhcp.burlingtontelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's pretty useful < 1345696551 141344 :asiekierka!~asie@078088172191.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1345696708 903833 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-128-137.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1345697176 910601 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-128-137.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1345697399 257544 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65-183-140-119-dhcp.burlingtontelecom.net QUIT : < 1345698074 458634 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65-183-140-119-dhcp.burlingtontelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1345698082 908198 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1345698323 904644 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1345698586 869981 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1345700179 218325 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-141-192.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1345700233 336047 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-137-141.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1345702169 355340 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.114.182.202 JOIN :#esoteric < 1345703156 566017 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you ever used to believe anything like these? http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=10684076#p10684076 < 1345703554 99258 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I once... contemplated the possibility of God acting by manipulating supposedly quantum random events < 1345703608 78539 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but is god a quantum random event? < 1345703714 147963 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Me too < 1345703835 964732 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know there are apples and oranges, but are apples the same as oranges? :D < 1345703875 813634 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Same in what way? They are made of the same atoms, protons, neutrons, electrons, etc < 1345704005 605000 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if some things are different can all things still be the same? < 1345704095 143926 :nooga!~nooga@dwe98.internetdsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1345704283 220520 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: good question < 1345704954 879932 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A while ago (and I still hold this to be true) I decided that at a certain level, the concept of "sameness" is just a human construct. < 1345704995 51947 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whether one object is the same object as another doesn't really make sense when parts of the object cease being parts of the object and other parts replace it < 1345705016 238176 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you step in the same (Loch) ness twice? < 1345705057 113307 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: oh crap.. not a new idea < 1345705074 167851 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least i am not herodotus... i think < 1345705233 750983 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am not the same person that is < 1345705330 724007 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65-183-140-119-dhcp.burlingtontelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not him who is called "I am" < 1345705333 979185 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly you can step in a similar ness twice < 1345705639 842794 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.114.182.202 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1345706320 102762 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.211 JOIN :#esoteric < 1345706476 933581 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1345707809 281716 :BlueStarfire!~Samantha@41.174.20.39 JOIN :#esoteric < 1345707858 491810 :BlueStarfire!~Samantha@41.174.20.39 PART :#esoteric < 1345708677 989248 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what i am trying to say might be, if there is more than one member in a set that they aren't the same < 1345708785 165801 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm starting to think that CLOS can emulate Clojure facilities easier than Clojure can emulate even some of the more basic CLOS facilies < 1345708794 972405 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such as inheritance with generic functions < 1345709078 61383 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.211 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1345709128 882833 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1345709324 809810 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65-183-140-119-dhcp.burlingtontelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: What if the members of the set are the same? < 1345709411 809113 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i tried to forget that part < 1345709842 320358 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can we make a .NSF music where one person write the A track, and then second person can see A track and writes B track, third sees A and B and writes the C track, and so on? (AB = square wave channel, C = triangle wave channel, D = noise, etc) < 1345709895 909180 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess in life, at some point many of us will reach a stage where we essentially accept that the outcomes of our battles are behind us, and all our fears have been tested, and we just live out our days in routine < 1345709913 644292 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: uh, yeah < 1345709918 539689 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :CLOS is very powerful < 1345709921 378534 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clojure is... not < 1345709937 397422 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: oh man nationstates < 1345709939 810790 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i used to play that < 1345709963 170324 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65-183-140-119-dhcp.burlingtontelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I periodically start a nation again until I grow bored and let it go inactive < 1345709987 540940 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro, I did used to be impressed with Clojure's any-function multiple-dispatch, but that's fakable in CLOS via making the generic function something that the normal function just calls < 1345710012 107152 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Normal function converts args into a symbol for generic function to dispatch on, and methods can use eql specializers < 1345710081 950501 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I just play too much homestuck :/ < 1345710535 579965 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: sort of like an online collaborative story thing except with music? < 1345710574 913114 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric : i guess thats not quite what you meant < 1345710615 209595 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65-183-140-119-dhcp.burlingtontelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exquisite_corpse < 1345710781 96097 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: Yes it is not quite what I meant. < 1345710794 622680 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1345711246 155151 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.114.182.202 JOIN :#esoteric < 1345711475 156408 :nooga!~nooga@dwe98.internetdsl.tpnet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1345711617 157089 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65-183-140-119-dhcp.burlingtontelecom.net QUIT : < 1345712402 488154 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So far, advantages Common Lisp has over Clojure: Condition system, CLOS. Clojure over Common Lisp: More libraries accessible (whether or not there are more libraries idiomatic), and generally cleaner design < 1345712406 556668 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And more functional < 1345712553 362608 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clojure has stuff for concurency < 1345712972 189172 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that too < 1345713124 616005 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-20-34.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1345713376 257973 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is debugging significantly harder in Clojure than Common Lisp due to .. stack trace issues and non-resumable exceptions? < 1345713397 944777 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :No idea, I haven't ever tried debugging any Clojure < 1345713816 10735 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-60.dataart.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1345715481 328876 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1345715543 153051 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1345715549 97784 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.114.182.202 PART :#esoteric < 1345716584 684426 :derdon!~derdon@p5DE8A73B.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1345717689 38607 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-141-192.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1345717876 130165 :asiekierka!~asie@078088172191.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1345718008 879539 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1345718023 586662 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-142-44.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1345718551 461766 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.114.182.202 JOIN :#esoteric < 1345718918 700408 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-219-42.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1345719439 733522 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1345719471 152413 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@078088172191.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1345720986 581175 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-219-42.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1345722924 62076 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1345722966 4021 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-128-137.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1345725648 893307 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1345727207 999724 :pikhq_!~pikhq@70-56-224-219.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1345727208 331265 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-142-44.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1345727427 806170 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-20-34.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1345727470 822282 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-20-34.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1345727600 441572 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1345727956 816826 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-20-34.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1345728536 855442 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-20-34.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1345728868 874401 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-20-34.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1345729254 973208 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-20-34.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1345730420 845812 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1345730453 387502 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1345730822 312742 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1345731765 777359 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-148-8-212.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1345731839 859536 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-148-8-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "except this" is now isolated :( < 1345732203 837259 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@161.113.4.249 JOIN :#esoteric < 1345732206 189963 :pumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1345732224 726163 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@161.113.4.249 NICK :Guest61107 < 1345732240 842416 :Guest61107!~copumpkin@161.113.4.249 QUIT :Client Quit < 1345732274 596679 :pumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin NICK :copumpkin < 1345733093 166537 :PatrickRobotham!~chatzilla@ppp118-209-204-193.lns20.mel6.internode.on.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1345734354 748577 :ogrom!~nask@gprs-inet-65-60.elisa.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1345734959 950353 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :atriq: what's an "except this", why is it unconnected, and is it edible? < 1345734995 236954 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-148-8-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Two words, someone changed the topic, yes < 1345735017 366840 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks. < 1345735907 6658 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-154-33.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1345735907 457378 :pikhq_!~pikhq@70-56-224-219.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1345736096 383934 :ogrom!~nask@gprs-inet-65-60.elisa.ee QUIT :Quit: begone < 1345736233 875509 :AnotherTest1!~tim@94-224-20-34.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1345736310 997253 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-20-34.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1345736339 706502 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1345736446 459962 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin NICK :RealFlaccid < 1345736458 205914 :RealFlaccid!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin NICK :copumpkin < 1345737342 432525 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin NICK :asspirate < 1345737459 23638 :asspirate!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin NICK :copumpkin < 1345738718 173039 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-60.elisa.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1345739359 863974 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1345740124 886861 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-60.dataart.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1345740126 68673 :kinoSi!~kinosi@27-96-32-84.ipq.jp QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1345740156 432832 :kinoSi!~kinosi@27-96-32-84.ipq.jp JOIN :#esoteric < 1345741288 775076 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1345741629 789483 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-148-8-212.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1345741889 186670 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-148-8-212.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1345742177 619831 :Dovregubben!~kurt@c-67-160-13-34.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1345742190 165694 :Dovregubben!~kurt@c-67-160-13-34.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1345742645 582899 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-219-42.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1345742680 989981 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1345742711 356444 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1345742731 860172 :cuttlefish!~cuttlefis@2607:fad8:4:0:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1345742988 371571 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1345743089 942963 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-148-8-212.as13285.net QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1345744317 410173 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-60.elisa.ee QUIT :Quit: Left < 1345744970 983990 :logicalguy!~ro@pcproj14.dcs.aber.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1345745091 523678 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-148-8-212.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1345745110 781479 :logicalguy!~ro@pcproj14.dcs.aber.ac.uk PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1345745348 854142 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1345745413 832026 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-148-8-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Help < 1345745418 978113 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-148-8-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The internet's going out < 1345745461 200057 :nortti!nortti@smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1345745470 82768 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :trip it over before it gets to the door < 1345745499 799949 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-148-8-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's handcuffed me to my chair < 1345745529 645606 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :you and your kinky internet, we don't want to hear about your "games" < 1345745555 466719 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-148-8-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This isn't a game! < 1345745568 864763 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-148-8-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's never done this before! < 1345745589 549475 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1345747906 51132 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.211 JOIN :#esoteric < 1345748014 75637 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-148-8-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, regarding what you said about Black Holes and Revelations... < 1345748020 290235 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-148-8-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just re-listened to it < 1345748029 184311 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-148-8-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know completely agree with you < 1345748087 238207 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-148-8-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :War is overdue/The time has come for you/To shoot your leaders down/Join forces underground < 1345748119 188517 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1345748151 211461 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"No one's going to take me alive / Time has come to make things right / You and I must fight for our rights / You and I must fight to survive" < 1345748180 183920 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What would you think of 0^(0^x) function? I would think of the C !! and the Haskell types (Cont Zero) and (Codensity Initialize). < 1345748248 173591 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-148-8-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 0 ^ (0 ^ 1) < 1345748249 169565 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1 < 1345748251 696402 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-148-8-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 0 ^ (0 ^ 0) < 1345748252 662948 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0 < 1345748259 23569 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-148-8-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 0 ^ (0 ^ 7) < 1345748260 77337 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1 < 1345748275 557388 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-148-8-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, what do you think of the 2nd law so far? < 1345748294 833535 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haven't heard it yet < 1345748299 912058 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but thanks for reminding me it exist < 1345748301 337201 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s* < 1345748309 295480 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :today i'm listening to the new Infected Mushroom album < 1345748315 154125 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-148-8-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Madness, Survival, and The 2nd Law: Unsustainable are the songs that have been released < 1345748321 410466 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-148-8-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's it like? < 1345748326 54901 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently they are now enamored with dubstep < 1345748337 324160 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like... dubstep and electro-pop < 1345748342 262037 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :very different from their usual stuff < 1345748348 754897 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-148-8-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...that's the 2nd law < 1345748352 282110 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything is dubstep nowadays < 1345748353 294774 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's still IM too < 1345748354 678472 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1345748357 722099 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was afraid of that < 1345748403 589878 :AnotherTest1!~tim@94-224-20-34.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1345748412 996777 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-148-8-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's time to make some Muse/MSPA fan art < 1345748418 357914 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-148-8-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :MusePA < 1345748542 592400 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"A woman carrying her soon to be five-year-old son fell onto the Red Line tracks in Kendall Square Wednesday night, after she thought she was boarding a train that was stopped on the opposite track." < 1345749208 454721 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-148-8-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m982mvEFm91rysy5go1_500.jpg < 1345749213 554 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-148-8-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Muse/MSPA art < 1345749259 592796 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-148-8-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even for here, that may be really off-topic < 1345749281 537344 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think that's possible < 1345749314 453906 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :atriq: what is that, it's completely unreadable < 1345749345 639912 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-148-8-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :All natural and technological processes proceed in such a way that the availability of the remaining energy decreases. < 1345749345 791969 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-148-8-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In all energy exchanges, if no energy enters or leaves an isolated system, the entropy of that system increases. < 1345749345 938064 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-148-8-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Energy continuously flows from being concentrated, to becoming dispersed, spread out, wasted and useless. < 1345749345 938256 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-148-8-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :New energy cannot be created and high grade energy is being destroyed. An economy based on endless growth is < 1345749355 762812 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-148-8-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :UNSUTSAINABBLE < 1345749408 747464 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-148-8-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(words from http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EF_xdvn52As ) < 1345749415 979972 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-128-137.as43234.net QUIT :Quit: brb < 1345749425 923850 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-148-8-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except I spelt "Useless" wrong < 1345749430 124605 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-148-8-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a sign < 1345749497 177979 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :is spelt spelt/spelled spelled or spelt? < 1345749521 192145 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-148-8-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :spelt is spelt spelt or spelled < 1345749530 824076 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-148-8-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :spelt is only really found in the UK < 1345749560 573917 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Splet. < 1345749569 186964 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :spelt is a type of flour < 1345749656 679360 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that spelt is also spelt spelt in english? < 1345749672 733277 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-140-86.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1345749690 424169 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-148-8-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Presumably < 1345749853 263236 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-136-187.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1345750022 172374 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-154-33.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1345750570 816266 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-148-8-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh dear god that's got 4 notes on tumblr < 1345750583 590962 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-148-8-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's like twice as many notes as anything I've ever done before < 1345750597 204502 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1345750737 653582 :mjv!~chatzilla@sd4403ae1.adsl.wanadoo.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1345750761 410730 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome mjv < 1345750772 71400 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :mjv: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1345750779 144644 :PatrickRobotham!~chatzilla@ppp118-209-204-193.lns20.mel6.internode.on.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1345751033 430975 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Then you rapidly realise that a lot of it is dreck that's either formulaic or written by people who don't get lasting horror. < 1345751050 324731 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :your quest now is to turn _that_ into an scp somehow. < 1345751118 424454 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"PatrickRobotham"? < 1345751147 162328 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-148-8-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Obviously a robot from Hexham called Patrick < 1345751157 515353 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly. < 1345751282 212980 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, windows, it is _not_ acceptable to delay raising windows in order to trick me into clicking somewhere i never intended to. < 1345751306 790813 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-148-8-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Telegraph website gets me like that EVERY TIME < 1345751319 848732 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-148-8-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Took me ages to get to the page for World NEws < 1345751325 834658 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-148-8-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't care about its cookie policy < 1345751358 144615 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Use keyboard and/or adjust the setting of Windows? < 1345751475 287085 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: i have no idea what setting that would be. the machine was close to thrashing. < 1345751635 9347 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :this time it wasn't a particular website. although the web newspapers sometimes get me that way - i need to click somewhere in the window in order to focus so scrolling works, but *poof* then suddenly there's something clickable there. < 1345751695 581562 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've noticed that annoyingly for wikia i need to click on the scrollbar instead, clicking in the window itself _disables_ scrolling. < 1345751696 815231 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Push ALT+TAB or click the title? I think Windows does have a secret setting for hover focus too, like some UNIX systems have. < 1345751740 138605 :mjv!~chatzilla@sd4403ae1.adsl.wanadoo.nl QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 14.0.1/20120713134347] < 1345751752 378706 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: i guess ALT+TAB would have worked in this particular case. < 1345751934 640114 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : I scare *incredibly* easily. <-- i should point and laugh but i remember for _years_ after jurassic park came out i couldn't walk close to the neighborhood park without imagining dinosaurs watching me :P < 1345752011 479592 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found someone made .NSF simulating the THX deep note using VRC6 and Namco expansions. < 1345752094 389993 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1345752122 845477 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1345752124 552024 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523 < 1345752232 896118 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@078088172191.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1345752808 528851 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-148-8-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, a 502 error < 1345752813 577276 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-148-8-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have I seen one of those before? < 1345753435 9212 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Yeah, I heard it < 1345753970 758006 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :atriq: Many times < 1345754999 649898 :atehwa_!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi NICK :atehwa < 1345755237 97362 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.211 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1345755385 356639 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1345755893 145337 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: are you CTFing still? < 1345755893 415342 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1345755898 81402 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what level are you on? < 1345755947 937444 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I left it off after finishing 6 yesterday. Haven't gotten back to it yet. < 1345755960 759250 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION has some other things to do but plans to finish it.
< 1345755970 905331 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1345755974 446900 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks like you haven't finished it either? < 1345755977 214548 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1345755980 366674 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-148-8-212.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1345755986 640635 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i got to the last level last night, then took a break < 1345755988 490812 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i'm back at it < 1345755991 666976 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I gather that level 8 is tricky. < 1345756001 549702 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is < 1345756023 620104 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think this CTF is harder than the last one. < 1345756033 680963 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it certainly aligns less with things i already know < 1345756056 94479 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried to run mosh-server on level02 but didn't manage it. < 1345756080 523197 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I ended up settling for sending command via HTTP. < 1345756095 856837 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you know mosh doesn't run when it can't read /etc/passwd? < 1345756125 665534 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :level 7 is quite fun :) < 1345756135 281675 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's an easier way to get a shell on level2 < 1345756138 59825 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you want me to tell you? < 1345756152 176383 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I did know that, because you said it in #mosh earlier :) < 1345756157 950396 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is a shell on level02 needed on either level 7 or level 8? < 1345756160 967373 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, good point. < 1345756167 833797 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it is then you shouldn't tell me. < 1345756175 777333 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1345756181 250056 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But now you can't even tell me whether you can tell me. < 1345756189 763111 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-140-86.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1345756302 690274 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1345756310 26695 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1345756508 95912 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, there's an ssh server running. < 1345756609 233052 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But generating and uploading a key doesn't seem to work... < 1345756622 962307 :lexande!arapp@minthe.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: what kind of CTF? < 1345756627 935036 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lexande: stripe-ctf.com < 1345756633 636385 :lexande!arapp@minthe.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that exists again < 1345756634 159248 :lexande!arapp@minthe.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1345756642 322728 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a new one. < 1345756708 637754 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders whether ssh supports login with uid instead of username.
< 1345756752 26714 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks like it doesn't. < 1345756760 436821 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, my username is my home directory's name. < 1345756768 254405 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I guess you pretty much did tell me. < 1345756806 533254 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I'm surprised there's no easy-to-download "standalone telnet server" or something, though. < 1345756810 507446 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you can already run arbitrary code on the box through php < 1345756821 116510 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :which game? < 1345756823 887268 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: every black hat has one lying around < 1345756836 69638 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe just a copy of netcat that supports "-e" and is compiled static < 1345756844 237257 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure. < 1345756860 901115 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I compiled mosh-server with -static to upload it. < 1345756874 432054 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then I thought maybe that got messed up so I uploaded all its dynamic libraries. < 1345756874 769430 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can Checkout programs be compiled to hardware? < 1345757021 411990 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway now I have a shell, but I'll get back to this later. < 1345757065 378879 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can Checkout programs be compiled to: LLVM, some open-source GPU architectures, some GPU with open specification, VHDL, or some custom CPU/GPU architecture specifically designed for Checout? < 1345757092 804943 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is not way that Checkout programs can be compiled to some cusom CPU/GPU architecture specifically designed for Checkout. < 1345757098 203968 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/t// < 1345757251 821463 :lexande!arapp@minthe.ugcs.caltech.edu PART :#esoteric < 1345757378 679700 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks like we lost lexande. < 1345757564 50454 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net NICK :lexande-ersatz < 1345757575 559683 :lexande-ersatz!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can temporarily impersonate him... < 1345757624 329617 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: you probably should ask ais523 that. he's not here now, but checkout is his language and he _is_ an expert on compilation to hardware... < 1345757638 126527 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1345757742 568851 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Only four more spaces open in the top-20 list! < 1345757780 910452 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :;P < 1345757788 424104 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure i'm happy about this leaderboard < 1345758037 975662 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The way it works or its existence? < 1345758055 757643 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :existence < 1345758077 100140 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION usually ignores leaderboards like that.
< 1345758117 120594 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it takes willpower to do that < 1345758118 292353 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for me < 1345758133 682637 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : The "except this" is now isolated :( <-- *MWAHAHAHA* < 1345758144 661584 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's true. < 1345758150 241258 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is he not here to listen to my gloating < 1345758173 189748 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: As you may know, I don't even own a television. < 1345758186 415015 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :This new CTF thing is very webby; though I suppose that's what they said it was going to be. (Went to level 4, then got sidetracked to do other things.) < 1345758211 523307 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But sometimes at public places with televisions in them, I suddenly notice that I've been staring at a screen for the last 20 seconds. < 1345758220 775130 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a strange feeling. I don't even realize what I was looking at. < 1345758227 327200 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never even heard of all these Sinatras and whatnots. < 1345758254 392056 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm happy with it being web stuff < 1345758256 645186 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have all been staring at a screen for _much_ more than 20 seconds. *MWAHAHAHA* oh wait... < 1345758269 753663 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's an opportunity to learn different things < 1345758277 489541 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: It's totally not the same! < 1345758288 721510 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOW THE DENIAL < 1345758296 817228 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION notes that he's currently not making progress with either the CTF or the other things he was going to do.
< 1345758298 657788 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing they do is deeply dependant on arcane knowledge of a particular language or framework < 1345758317 288979 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except JavaScript, maybe. < 1345758332 655827 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think you need *arcane* knowledge of javascript < 1345758355 306273 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think you need to know the very basics and to be comfortable poking around in "Inspect Element" or such < 1345758355 452282 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps not. < 1345758362 167800 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess that's spoilers? < 1345758369 93149 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's spoilers? < 1345758374 194851 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't even tell which level it's for. < 1345758387 343570 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It spoiled the fact that there's going to be some JavaScript. I haven't seen any, I don't think. < 1345758407 651331 :lexande-ersatz!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net NICK :boily < 1345758407 797527 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i implied that you don't need to know subtle details of javascript < 1345758412 276444 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which narrows down where one might look for hax < 1345758493 150100 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :For the level with the regexp, I was trying to figure out a way to match against the program's own code in the git repository. < 1345758503 484399 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder whether that's spoilers. At any rate it didn't work because git compresses things. :-( < 1345758505 394589 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1345758508 881232 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And it's a bare repository.) < 1345758530 691771 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the line checking for the regexp actually does match the regexp. < 1345758544 556881 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION mind = blown
< 1345758570 692354 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you write a regex which matches only itself? < 1345758802 713895 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds like a challenge < 1345758818 527635 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about an empty regex < 1345758831 209066 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh a narcissist regex < 1345758834 191110 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :will match any line < 1345758840 262150 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that's the interpretation of "match" i'm taking) < 1345758850 176857 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise it's easy, any regex containing only literal characters (letters etc) would do < 1345758887 137761 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then a regexp containing the letter a < 1345758898 574973 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually < 1345758903 25888 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :will match any line containing the letter a < 1345758905 39929 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that's the interpretation of "match" i'm taking) < 1345758906 645501 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm < 1345758914 882327 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is tricky < 1345758925 339314 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need ^ and $ or something equivalent < 1345758932 659828 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :You basically have to make a regexp quine < 1345758942 70497 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :^$ matches an empty line < 1345758956 487082 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Narcissist < 1345758973 377626 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :narcissists tend to be quine-like < 1345758980 715608 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^$$ matches a line with ^$ on it < 1345759008 163864 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: you need to handle escaping i think < 1345759013 43896 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1345759015 767316 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which makes things much harder < 1345759038 367142 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: You don't need to escape ^ or $ if they aren't at the start or end of the regex < 1345759048 203649 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't? hm. < 1345759070 834063 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or at least, there is something that makes ^^$$ work as intended < 1345759096 253367 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess that may be connected with the single-line/multi-line options (in perl) < 1345759123 721696 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it's that you don't need to escape ^ or $ if you have them elsewhere in their real meanings < 1345759235 82335 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1345759241 308630 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, this is tricky < 1345759338 631586 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: zzo38 < 1345759552 622422 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless there is a way of embedding a literal representation of the regex inside the regex < 1345759559 22074 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :It might be impossible < 1345759607 769825 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's almost certainly possible with perl's crazy extended "reg"exes < 1345759717 194657 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~jas/toys/inequ.html Looks like we aren't the only ones at it < 1345759962 52438 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: Perl at least has no special magic about ^ matching a literal "^" if it's not the first thing. E.g. /^^foo/ matches 'foobar', doesn't match '^foobar'. < 1345760044 382407 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :grep does < 1345760075 745392 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :!perl print join(" ", map { /^^foo/ ? "$_:yes" : "$_:no" } ("foobar", "^foobar")); < 1345760076 133327 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :foobar:yes ^foobar:no < 1345760111 518360 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo '^foobar' | grep '^^foo'` < 1345760111 664322 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :^foobar < 1345760114 975978 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it seems. Fancy that. < 1345760115 158389 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​'^foobar' | grep '^^foo'` < 1345760124 953557 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, inequ is another name for narcissist then < 1345760134 356161 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lol at HackEgo < 1345760162 147164 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo '^foobar' | grep '^^foo' < 1345760165 278634 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​^foobar < 1345760168 526479 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway. < 1345760202 852257 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo -e 'foobar\n^foobar' | grep -E '^^foo' < 1345760205 816169 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :foobar < 1345760218 787805 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's different with extended RE. < 1345760333 481597 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see, so egrep < 1345760373 456413 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@209-6-232-56.c3-0.sbo-ubr1.sbo.ma.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1345760373 602843 :pumpkin!~copumpkin@209-6-232-56.c3-0.sbo-ubr1.sbo.ma.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1345760373 749022 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@209-6-232-56.c3-0.sbo-ubr1.sbo.ma.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Changing host < 1345760373 749174 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1345760394 310713 :pumpkin!~copumpkin@209-6-232-56.c3-0.sbo-ubr1.sbo.ma.cable.rcn.com NICK :Guest28134 < 1345760419 96835 :Guest28134!~copumpkin@209-6-232-56.c3-0.sbo-ubr1.sbo.ma.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Client Quit < 1345760553 99811 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: aww, I won't be in the top 20 < 1345760814 859066 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Now you get to practice not caring about leaderboards! < 1345760821 971128 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bet the leaderboard was sour anyway. < 1345760836 230435 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't get it < 1345760898 863658 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: Poulet! < 1345760917 485136 :cuttlefish!~cuttlefis@2607:fad8:4:0:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1345760949 849390 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The second thing was a joke about sour grapes. I know you said you didn't like the leaderboard even before -- it wasn't making fun of you in particular. < 1345761040 642848 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION sighs.
< 1345761122 502979 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which community is more likely to want to play with monads, the Clojure community or the Common Lisp community < 1345761133 431340 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :grour sapes < 1345761157 97272 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which community is more likely to want to play with themselves < 1345761169 343179 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the connection to grapes? < 1345761193 125536 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the hgronnection to capes? < 1345761211 83 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION kind of thinks that Clojure is a better language except for lack of CLOS and condition system
< 1345761227 403984 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sour_grapes < 1345761246 64478 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :That daemn esop < 1345761258 424051 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does it have to do with leaderboards < 1345761271 979820 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-( < 1345761279 415182 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :idgi < 1345761293 611939 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :itt: we discover kmc doesn't understand fables and proverbs < 1345761313 594161 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever < 1345761316 319830 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hith wis fabcy fanles < 1345761337 615123 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also that FreeFull cannot spel < 1345761353 819366 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was on a leaderboard thing once < 1345761361 403177 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :C ian jell spust efin < 1345761393 801163 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :aat whre tou yalking tabou < 1345761403 92122 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I can prove it :( < 1345761430 975168 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: You can.. with trime tavel! < 1345761465 87834 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't even prove a connection between YouOS and myself < 1345761471 669509 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I think all my code is gone for good < 1345761501 994512 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dear Google: Not iOS. YouOS. < 1345761614 696303 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's why you "" everything < 1345761671 832366 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only actual connection that I get when I google "YouOS" "Sgeo" is a log of me in a Java chatroom mentioning it < 1345761677 631973 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which makes little to no sense. < 1345761696 726224 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1345761727 652111 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://echelog.com/logs/browse/java/1271368800 < 1345761762 499874 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, context was someone talking about an OS in Java, and OSes that aren't really OSes and me mentioning a project with OS in its name that's not really an OS. < 1345762059 119530 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah, i beat level 8 but the web interface won't take my password < 1345762083 999913 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You completed this level in -34914.789 seconds." That's... unlikely. < 1345762093 735264 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The others show reasonable (nonnegative) numbers. < 1345762101 448960 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the stripe ctf channel is full of "HALP HOW 2 SOLVE LVL 1" so i can't get the attention of admins < 1345762146 867007 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :lvl 1? They got past lvl 0? < 1345762168 125012 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :some of them < 1345762206 988587 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-219-42.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1345762312 974602 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1345762374 800184 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What game is this? < 1345762399 498045 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://stripe-ctf.com < 1345762518 163934 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have stuff I should be doing today < 1345762534 323882 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like endlessly contemplating whether clojure is better than common lisp? < 1345762534 470089 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Working on a sellable product in SL and repairing my IRC bot < 1345762587 255781 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should make a Lisp that compiles to LSL < 1345762861 592542 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, I don't like being timed < 1345762915 451994 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1345763117 355996 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, this is fun < 1345763205 645487 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1345763247 402549 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if it's the same shirt as last time < 1345763363 214805 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was a somewhat low-quality shirt. < 1345763369 641902 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The regular Stripe shirts are much nicer. < 1345763382 935559 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :On the other hand they make people think I work at Stripe. < 1345763395 561732 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION doesn't like shirts with text.
< 1345763411 2557 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you somehow remove the text? < 1345763423 172086 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is Stripe CTF a finite duration thing? < 1345763428 102458 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or will it be open for a while/ < 1345763430 335004 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, one week. < 1345763438 464005 :derdon!~derdon@p5DE8A73B.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1345763480 445577 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :one week from noon yesterday PDT < 1345763526 207852 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : i wonder if it's the same shit as last time That was a somewhat low-quality shit. The regular Stripe shits are much nicer. * shachaf doesn't like shits with text. Can you somehow remove the text? < 1345763526 817416 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION will play more later, I'm a bit stumped, there's an obvious looking area here but it looks secure
< 1345763557 674547 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: is there like a simulacrum of #esoteric which lives inside your head? < 1345763565 992723 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be frightening < 1345763576 683042 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, a poo simulacrum. < 1345763584 997021 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean it's one thing to be crazy but it's another thing to have a bunch of voices in your head who are themselves crazy < 1345763598 856824 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :THE GREAT BIG POO < 1345763611 452975 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean < 1345763616 294360 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :THE GREAT MIGHTY POO < 1345763616 502966 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION had a high quality shit while solving the ctf
< 1345763632 329416 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: If sane voices make you crazy, crazy voices must make you sane. < 1345763664 897931 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure that's how it works < 1345763717 442076 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: That’s just the crazy talking. < 1345763741 469740 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are timezone acronyms like PDT useful? < 1345763746 365285 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the US ones are pretty useful < 1345763757 994022 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but is it the case that (e.g.) all points in EEST switch to EET on the same date? < 1345763765 733866 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think this was not the case before the 90's anyway < 1345763770 106112 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: hey i'm _not_ crazy, it's just all these crazy voices confusing me all the time < 1345763775 851865 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. < 1345763790 160058 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Are you sure you are not crazy? < 1345763793 549697 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pax bruxellana < 1345763809 794994 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION prefers just "PT"
< 1345763817 716896 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: The voices tell me I'm not. < 1345763820 763825 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does "EEST", "EET" means? < 1345763831 193364 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Eastern European (Summer)? Time < 1345763847 957196 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK. < 1345763855 520013 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :confusingly 'S' means DST in most of the world and not-DST in the USA < 1345763858 233027 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eesti time < 1345763862 335898 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes! < 1345763864 263364 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like daylight saving time and summer time < 1345763870 576770 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is eesti time < 1345763883 712755 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had some other pun involving C'EST < 1345763893 325858 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not zzo38? < 1345763895 783081 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0w5neFPat1w < 1345763908 980529 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :BST < 1345763913 656643 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Means british summer time < 1345763923 429961 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes that is a fact < 1345763942 910068 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they used to have double summer time too < 1345763965 215189 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you should use solar time and UTC, and then also use Italian hours and/or astrological houses if you need sunset time as well < 1345763968 847285 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is clearly absurd, as it would imply the brits have summers < 1345764008 22969 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also britain was on GMT+1 for all of 1969 and 1970 < 1345764070 626312 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin NICK :pirateat28 < 1345764236 785363 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but in reality the universe was created in the afternoon (UTC) of Sunday, August 17, 1969 < 1345764274 838409 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and will be destroyed in 9661 after a false alarm in 1996 < 1345764313 30910 :pirateat28!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin NICK :copumpkin < 1345764372 151588 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sun-Neptune has a close opposition of ecliptic longitude at this time. < 1345764433 918656 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is regex really that terrible for web page processing in all circumstances? < 1345764454 586524 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The destruction date of the universe doesn’t matter to us that much after the 2012 destruction of the Earth. < 1345764459 975028 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think regex can be used for web page processing. < 1345764484 274259 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :esr agrees < 1345764526 186320 :SimonRC!~sc@217.155.91.250 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1345764527 996963 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you sure the 2012 destruction of Earth? How will they get destroyed? Atom bomb? < 1345764529 493964 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is XML really that terrible for video processing in all circumstances? I think XML can be used for video processing. < 1345764541 95489 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: come on, we still have a few months to assemble a project orion generation ship < 1345764545 952768 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't think XML would be good for video processing, though. < 1345764552 122268 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Will collide with an antiearth < 1345764570 353884 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Earth cancelled due to lack of ratings < 1345764572 366839 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What antiearth? < 1345764597 680921 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :There’s only one. That one. < 1345764624 930342 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even if there is only one (assuming there is even one), I still don't know which one it is. < 1345764682 121792 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: wasn't that a plot of some tv series < 1345764762 843878 :SimonRC!~sc@217.155.91.250 JOIN :#esoteric < 1345764773 642752 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.114.182.202 PART :#esoteric < 1345764803 730130 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*tv cartoon series < 1345764929 589498 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU GUYS YOU GUYS https://bitbucket.org/GregorR/sysv-dev < 1345764946 180171 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is not a dinosaur. Or a pony.
< 1345764960 655995 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume that Gregor is a dinopony. < 1345765011 838525 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm south park it seems < 1345765141 728466 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: nice < 1345765167 47002 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I did a bunch of video editing with shell scripts that invoked netpnm on individual frames < 1345765170 166243 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no xml though < 1345765244 859424 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does Common Lisp make more sense for video editing than Clojure, for performance reasons? < 1345765250 720206 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not that I plan to do video editing < 1345765338 446280 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :-_- < 1345765353 151043 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh Sgeo you so silly < 1345765355 767556 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Yes video editing can be done with shell scripts although invoking a program on each frame would seem to be slow. Parallel computing might be better way. < 1345765364 13605 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1345765367 619145 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1345765368 363539 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :guys, i was planning on doing some video editing < 1345765374 144603 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have any suggestions as to which lisp dialect i should use < 1345765383 686865 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :at the time I had like the only SMP machine among my friends < 1345765386 327559 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :those were the days < 1345765387 986204 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I may modify pictures using ImageMagick. < 1345765402 468232 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :SYNCHRONICITY < 1345765407 984533 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Hey, you finished it. < 1345765411 285327 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1345765418 267570 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about synchronicity? < 1345765423 397722 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was a dual socket single-core-Opteron machine < 1345765428 272347 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :those were the days < 1345765438 529114 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION will continue soon.
< 1345765440 578327 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...some day i'll snap and ban zzo38 for ruining my bad jokes < 1345765457 80837 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :later we found an even older SMP machine lying around < 1345765486 745179 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it had four Pentium Pro chips < 1345765489 974832 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're all useless < 1345765491 252929 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-219-42.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: zzo's already a hero but then he'll be a martyr < 1345765499 280278 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-219-42.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this what you want < 1345765500 66305 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, a hybrid of newLisp and Arc. < 1345765503 593139 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: ok good argument < 1345765505 28405 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: thx < 1345765506 475497 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1345765511 352712 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and 1 GB of RAM on several cards, each the size of a modern PC motherboard < 1345765540 486219 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what he would have said if I said something that wasn't a Lisp dialect < 1345765544 328894 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Darn < 1345765545 197945 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it was the size of a refridgerator < 1345765557 254308 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i left it in a common area, which caused some annoyance to others < 1345765564 201151 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I assume he can still read this < 1345765569 678040 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i believe the exact threat was "if you do not move that computer, i will open up the case and take a shit inside" < 1345765654 225400 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :how civilized < 1345765689 843639 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1345765708 489419 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pentium bros before pentium pros < 1345765734 43478 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the student computing club also had some pre-release Itanium boxes which were even shittier than regular Itanium boxes < 1345765746 396100 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they had some CPU bugs and were never properly supported by GCC < 1345765755 938661 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think they kept these as a way of hazing new sysadmins < 1345765762 334766 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is Itanium that terrible? < 1345765777 106190 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Avoid anything with CPU bugs < 1345765778 404985 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, it's really hard to write compilers for I hear? < 1345765786 29080 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hardware bugs are nast < 1345765789 540034 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :nasty < 1345765791 694306 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, what Phantom_Hoover said < 1345765804 812923 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :to get good performance you have to pay intel for their crazy compiler < 1345765808 443230 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :though it might be free for academia < 1345765813 288108 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Write everything in assembly! < 1345765819 679608 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What makes it so hard to write compilers for? < 1345765827 957330 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it something fundamental about the architecture? < 1345765833 631465 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: the instruction stream contains hints about parallelism < 1345765841 963539 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the sort of things a normal CPU figures out on the fly < 1345765849 466433 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it turns out, doing this on the fly is easier because you have more information < 1345765852 865861 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, parallelism is hard < 1345765876 347804 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't just write a sequence of instructions, you write a sequence of instruction *groups*, where each group happens in parallel < 1345765879 331398 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something < 1345765887 201734 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :read about it if you want to know the actual situation < 1345765895 752411 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :belongs to the VLIW class of architectures < 1345765901 664123 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good point. < 1345765903 636332 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which has (as a result?) fallen out of favor for general purpose architectures < 1345765908 993448 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but is still popular for DSPs and such < 1345765943 813001 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Itanium was also used largely to emulate x86 and HP PA-RISC < 1345765949 467529 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it kinda sucked at these < 1345766031 946613 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel like I'm guessing at this level (level 2) < 1345766034 24454 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1345766034 870142 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think Intel is contractually obligated to keep making Itanium chips < 1345766044 233116 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :as a result of the deal with HP where it replaced PA-RISC < 1345766047 566028 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that might be bullshit tho < 1345766049 792027 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: want a hint? < 1345766057 373867 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, ok, sure < 1345766071 172096 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :>.> < 1345766077 783514 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, what do you have so far < 1345766080 134454 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(feel free to PM) < 1345766084 736483 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i think we want to avoid spoilers here) < 1345766088 430741 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :We do? < 1345766094 1968 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh maybe not < 1345766097 105395 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatevs < 1345766097 927294 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think other people in here are doing it. < 1345766101 994556 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe they will later, though. < 1345766107 229526 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :except you and me, but we're past level 2 < 1345766110 909583 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Avoid spoilers for ≥7 :-) < 1345766212 315251 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Level 3 was much easier than level 2. < 1345766328 61062 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i found it difficult for two < 1345766329 486019 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :reasons