< 1350951411 15443 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1350951488 960248 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn you ec2 < 1350951753 348309 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1350952082 998663 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dangit, I don't understand BitCoin enough to elaborate on my thoughts on http://www.loper-os.org/?p=988 < 1350952146 614013 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :people still read loper-os for anything but yuks? < 1350952180 367084 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Arc_Koen < 1350952191 313626 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :He has some interesting thoughts on Bitcoin, I think < 1350952207 919089 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, I find Loper-OS to be interesting rather often, if not perfect < 1350952533 69535 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is no computable set of axioms that uniquely defines the natural numbers. < 1350952554 926172 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damned Gödel. < 1350952773 67459 :kwertii!~kwertii@unaffiliated/kwertii QUIT :Quit: kwertii < 1350952954 264714 :hagb4rd|afk!~perdito@koln-4d0b7001.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :poor gödel finished himself < 1350953091 239106 :hagb4rd|afk!~perdito@koln-4d0b7001.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lucky as i am.. i don't undestand the consequences of this theorem < 1350953108 211645 :hagb4rd|afk!~perdito@koln-4d0b7001.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*his < 1350953774 221451 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh, his incompleteness theorems are nothing special. < 1350953805 725028 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :They state, roughly, that there are things we will never know. Big whoop. < 1350953815 584719 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :His *completeness* theorem is something else, though. < 1350953835 446151 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :It implies that there is no computable set of axioms that uniquely defines the natural numbers. < 1350953846 204674 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :*No computable set of axioms that uniquely defines the natural numbers.* < 1350953866 509719 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no computable set of axioms that uniquely defines the natural numbers < 1350953879 388831 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah! Tell me about it! < 1350953905 132096 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is no computable set of axioms that uniquely defines the natural numbers. < 1350953941 455949 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'd think that there'd be a computable set of axioms that uniquely defines the natural numbers. < 1350953949 461146 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :But no, there is no computable set of axioms that uniquely defines the natural numbers. < 1350953984 948248 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1350954110 814122 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1350955181 321735 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1350955395 484458 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1350955615 148059 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1350956128 950284 :hagb4rd|afk!~perdito@koln-4d0b7001.pool.mediaWays.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1350956266 254906 :barts!~barts@g229021229.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1350956280 336732 :barts!~barts@g229021229.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1350957516 372319 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@209-6-232-56.c3-0.sbo-ubr1.sbo.ma.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1350957537 504821 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@209-6-232-56.c3-0.sbo-ubr1.sbo.ma.cable.rcn.com NICK :Guest14165 < 1350957547 278217 :Guest14165!~copumpkin@209-6-232-56.c3-0.sbo-ubr1.sbo.ma.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Client Quit < 1350957565 104834 :pumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1350957589 69711 :pumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin NICK :copumpkin < 1350958839 375811 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1350960101 123014 :TodPunk!~Tod@166-70-93-209.ip.xmission.com QUIT :Quit: This is me, signing off. Probably rebooting or something. < 1350960927 266401 :TodPunk!~Tod@166-70-93-209.ip.xmission.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1350964957 498163 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1350965665 940250 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1350973206 105631 :sivoais!~zaki@199.19.225.239 QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1350973270 783347 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do look keys? < 1350973786 789184 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1350973884 683884 :barts!~barts@g229021229.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i disagree, zzo38 < 1350974051 50005 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK. Why? < 1350974069 387375 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I neither agree or disagree. < 1350974605 473434 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :barts: still at it? < 1350974933 771877 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :barts: hi < 1350974945 40447 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :barts: "do u hate me" < 1350974946 269910 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Music update! < 1350975196 533290 :MoALTz_!~no@host86-138-31-101.range86-138.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1350975256 759787 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1350975314 980340 :MoALTz!~no@host86-138-31-13.range86-138.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1350976198 456326 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.171 JOIN :#esoteric < 1350976290 281574 :MoALTz!~no@host86-138-31-117.range86-138.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1350976411 989522 :MoALTz_!~no@host86-138-31-101.range86-138.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1350977078 201093 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.171 QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1350977350 851855 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh ffs < 1350977463 652731 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1350977542 438335 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi elliott!!!!! < 1350977584 16099 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fuck. < 1350977590 453739 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1350977593 697977 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Remind me never to tutor for money without a lot of documentation. < 1350977602 503147 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Person is now trying to defraud his government, I think. < 1350977618 901597 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1350977631 249430 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : hi < 1350977634 150766 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::') < 1350977639 118139 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :He paid me, but is asking me to sign his sheet for reimbursement for far more money than he gave me < 1350977718 283534 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did you do.......................... < 1350977758 874774 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tutored someone. He paid me. He is expecting to receive money back. I delayed on the paperwork. Now he's giving me paperwork to sign, but it says I tutored for more hours than actuality. < 1350977804 169947 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1350977830 93571 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1350978739 478006 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1350980736 475860 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whatever. I wrote down and signed for the amount of tutoring paid for, although I have no idea if the actual list of sessions is accurate or not < 1350981381 250654 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-60.dataart.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1350982233 302381 :hagb4rd|afk!~perdito@koln-4db405ab.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1350983585 655625 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is no computable set of axioms that uniquely defines the natural numbers? < 1350983706 342841 :carado!~user4539@78.250.187.139 JOIN :#esoteric < 1350984343 939199 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Is there a way to write foo :: (a -> b) -> a -> Identity b which doesn't eta-expand without unsafeCoerce? < 1350984431 243000 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, monqy something < 1350984601 502594 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Strictness-wise, that is.) < 1350987682 406388 :barts_!~barts@g230224002.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1350987764 984566 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1350987897 254890 :barts!~barts@g229021229.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1350988301 700818 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1350988544 388389 :barts_!~barts@g230224002.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1350988910 752339 :barts!~barts@p4FFB07AC.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1350988998 784886 :barts_!~barts@p4FD0F494.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1350989174 786575 :barts!~barts@p4FFB07AC.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1350989780 44324 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Did CCBI 2 ever become a thing? < 1350989842 487890 :Deewiant!~deewiant@109.75.188.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes? http://iki.fi/matti.niemenmaa/befunge/ccbi.html < 1350990030 406740 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I mean, a thing more than the thing it was. < 1350990033 490352 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember there being some un-thinginess. < 1350990103 255531 :Deewiant!~deewiant@109.75.188.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I'm working on the C library version of its funge-space right now and at some point I intend to convert/rewrite the interpreter itself in C as well. Does that count? < 1350990199 496265 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1350990310 319946 :hagb4rd|afk!~perdito@koln-4db405ab.pool.mediaWays.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1350990355 190090 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Oh, you're still writing that fungespace? < 1350990425 887093 :hagb4rd|afk!~perdito@koln-5d81f501.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1350990462 743144 :Deewiant!~deewiant@109.75.188.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :More "began working again a week ago" than "still", but yes. I'm doing some stuff related to it as part of a data structures course. < 1350990534 162352 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Oh no, is it getting even fancier. < 1350990549 259640 :Deewiant!~deewiant@109.75.188.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing that wasn't in the works anyway. < 1350990639 767701 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: So have you finally given up on D? < 1350990642 699027 :Deewiant!~deewiant@109.75.188.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm hoping to be able to throw out the hash table fallback in favour of using a decent spatial data structure for the boxes, and the course work is essentially trying that out and seeing if it's any good. < 1350990714 302929 :Deewiant!~deewiant@109.75.188.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kinda-sorta. For this C makes the most sense IMO since I'm trying to stay as low-level as possible for performance. :-P C++ might be a better idea, but, well, it's C++. < 1350990745 588535 :Deewiant!~deewiant@109.75.188.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And my higher-level language of choice is Haskell so there isn't room for D. < 1350990764 268357 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I guess shiro 2 will just have to beat you with Haskell then!! < 1350990769 179649 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even though C is totally cheating. < 1350990775 414904 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I can write Shiro 2 in Rust. < 1350990777 863105 :Deewiant!~deewiant@109.75.188.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The main thing here is that D1 is totally deprecated, so if I have to convert my code to D2 I might as well convert it to C instead. < 1350990783 421501 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds sort of pleasant. < 1350990788 725300 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I thought it was D2 already. < 1350990794 337735 :Deewiant!~deewiant@109.75.188.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope. < 1350990819 928365 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Did you know about GitHub's : pictures. :-( < 1350990820 161257 :Deewiant!~deewiant@109.75.188.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hence good luck getting it to compile anywhere nowadays. :-P < 1350990850 464456 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: GitHub's what? < 1350990862 892286 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I needed good luck to compile it anywhere when D1 wasn't deprecated... < 1350990875 852431 :Deewiant!~deewiant@109.75.188.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: That, too. < 1350990897 689170 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: When you're editing text and press : < 1350990921 195438 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Smilies? < 1350990933 673708 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1350990937 331066 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Anyway CCBI 2 isn't going to have a scrubber-based debugger, is it?! Therefore Shiro is better. < 1350990977 263195 :Deewiant!~deewiant@109.75.188.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Now that I ended up talking about this stuff: what's the most funge-space-allocation-intensive stuff fungot does and (how) can I easily make it do only that? I could use a 'ready-made' 'real-world' benchmark. < 1350990981 592157 :Deewiant!~deewiant@109.75.188.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Scrubber-based? < 1350990995 189845 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: You know, scrubbers like you have to seek around in media players. < 1350991000 735781 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Except this one seeks in TIME. < 1350991013 863502 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you get to see the funge-space animated with all your IPs dancing around while you drag the scrubber along. < 1350991017 680668 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And get the stack in a sidebar and so forth. < 1350991025 305175 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not exactly sure how that will work with TRDS, admittedly. < 1350991033 555116 :Deewiant!~deewiant@109.75.188.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah I wanted to do that back when we were talking about the Funge debugging protocol thing. < 1350991054 756186 :Deewiant!~deewiant@109.75.188.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Not in CCBI but in the external debugger program.) < 1350991083 156181 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Microsoft Visual Funge 2012 has that, right? < 1350991083 806076 :Deewiant!~deewiant@109.75.188.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I got approximately as far as drawing a triangle in an opengl frame with gtkhs. < 1350991119 677629 :Deewiant!~deewiant@109.75.188.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That's pretty much what usually happens when I try to program something non-CLI.) < 1350991183 573802 :Deewiant!~deewiant@109.75.188.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: With TRDS you just need to drag along executed ticks, not in-Funge ticks. < 1350991231 13523 :Deewiant!~deewiant@109.75.188.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or then you can execute everything once and draw only the last executed tick matching the corresponding in-Funge tick, but that doesn't seem useful for a debugger. < 1350991537 242502 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : elliott: With TRDS you just need to drag along executed ticks, not in-Funge ticks. < 1350991550 699338 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, but it'd be cool if you somehow made the scrubber have a topology whereby it linked up with the previous ones and stuff. < 1350991558 708827 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I guess TRDS is too leaky for that anyway. < 1350991562 946534 :Deewiant!~deewiant@109.75.188.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well yeah, you can make it fancy if you want. < 1350991997 704243 :carado!~user4539@78.250.187.139 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1350993018 543800 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1350993778 806866 :sivoais!~zaki@199.19.225.239 JOIN :#esoteric < 1350993931 523988 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Oh, right, I forgot to answer. Um. My guess would be that it's the Underload interp that does the most funge-space manipulation. (Though it does it all with STRN, if that matters.) < 1350994008 803968 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of the "major modules" (eh, heh), the babbling doesn't write much at all because it's all about FILE-seeking around and reading four-to-five byte things, and the Brainfuck has a 1000-cell tape that it manipulates (plus a few cells of state) and that's it. < 1350994065 859238 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Underload, though, has the stack (and sometimes the program) both growing to negative X direction. (Though I suppose optimally you'd then need a "real-world" Underload benchmark to run in it.) < 1350994094 949195 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1350994241 775822 :Deewiant!~deewiant@109.75.188.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should load the babble stuff into Funge-Space instead of using FILE. :-P < 1350994511 126882 :Deewiant!~deewiant@109.75.188.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But, thanks for the info. That's what I suspected anyhow; I recall messing with that Underload interpreter at some point. < 1350994529 371797 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's that standalone copy of it somewhere too. < 1350994534 842463 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Easier to run than fungot. < 1350994535 459968 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ( and that's where your coding skills come into play? < 1350994541 642625 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1350994552 719673 :Deewiant!~deewiant@109.75.188.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have an underload.b98 which is probably it. < 1350994616 508260 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1350994645 655795 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, having the babble stuff in fungespace would be such a memory-waster. (Admittedly, though, it'd then at least do the silly base-128 number-parsing only once.) < 1350994678 578802 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was about to say "and I don't have that much memory to waste, anyway", but apparently fungot's box has (-/+ buffers/cache) 128M used, 872M free. < 1350994679 106919 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ok, what's next? fnord? yow! it's some people inside the wall! < 1350994706 228356 :Deewiant!~deewiant@109.75.188.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How much does it take up on disk? < 1350994732 563062 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The 'irc' style (which is the largest) is 195659600 + 1042812 bytes. < 1350994772 918263 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :627M for the whole chroot dir it runs in. < 1350994773 709750 :Deewiant!~deewiant@109.75.188.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Binary-loading that into a 32-bit fungespace would nicely eat up most of that 872M. < 1350994822 475215 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Given that with buffers/cache it's 888M used, 113M free, there's a reasonable change a large amount of it is already "in memory" in a sense anyway. < 1350994827 642862 :Deewiant!~deewiant@109.75.188.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In CCBI2, that is. In the hash table interpreters I guess you should something like double that. < 1350994829 788337 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chance. < 1350997125 345761 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1350997332 339959 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-60.dataart.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1350997627 842830 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1350997820 49180 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-60.dataart.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1350997843 268634 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a language that doesn't have any form of conditonal statements < 1350997855 303943 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's basically an automaton, right? < 1350997971 425786 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or don't we have a computational class for those < 1350998015 666187 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your statement is conditional on what a conditional statement is < 1350998035 786898 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, yes < 1350998052 145732 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I'm reading http://www.esolangs.org/wiki/Beebles < 1350998064 1455 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically it has 13 simple commands to manipulate two stacks < 1350998084 297724 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but none of those commands can retrieve information from the stack < 1350998132 100379 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait it does have "if the top item of the stack is not 0" on the jump command < 1350998135 958592 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't know why I missed that < 1350998142 190961 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, but imagine it didn't < 1350998186 730279 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :It could have unconditional computed goto < 1350998209 478957 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-60.dataart.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1350998219 412231 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean? < 1350998226 579636 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :pop x -> goto x < 1350998341 796174 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :If there is a fork command, you could also make the interpreter angry in the branch that you don't want to run. < 1350998342 539606 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure the "pop" commands pops and discards the top item < 1350998395 634623 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it does have a "kill" command so making the interpreter angry shouldn't be necessary < 1350998495 747612 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :But without a conditional operator, you can't exercise discretion on killing the program < 1350998524 822628 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :as far as I know you can't exercise discretion on making the interpreter angry, either < 1350998563 973660 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can push some numbers that happen to be prime if a condition is met < 1350998577 837738 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouh, nice < 1350998593 180762 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, but it's limited to 30 numbers on the stack anyway < 1350999228 826656 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell AnotherTest well apparently you were right, zzz is not strictly-speaking equivalent to brainfuck... see cpressey's comment on zzzzzz! < 1350999228 944824 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1350999272 471786 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1350999316 652820 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Why am I awake? < 1350999342 270696 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :who knows < 1350999358 230155 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :who: Why am I awake? < 1350999369 527118 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: who is a doctor right < 1350999840 37021 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo ℓ = foo' True < 1350999862 27058 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, writing comments in BF is annoying < 1350999871 802676 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only punctuation mark you can normally use is the semicolon < 1350999876 244107 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just zencode them. < 1350999880 149394 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you use it in all sorts of contexts it'd otherwise be inappropriate < 1350999890 218558 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :y u no type lik this lol? < 1350999898 248778 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or write them like telegrams. < 1350999898 723048 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, and ? and ! < 1350999907 562601 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And () < 1350999914 676643 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't use () in BF Joust < 1350999920 437681 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is where I mostly write BF comments < 1350999921 214902 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, Joust. < 1350999965 704625 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telegram_style < 1351000006 331018 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is a telegram exchange consisting of "?", followed by "!" < 1351000085 988457 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's mentioned on that page. < 1351000096 401698 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :«In 1843, a school girl remarked that General Charles James Napier on his having conquered the Indian province of Sindh, should have sent the telegram peccavi, Latin for "I have sinned", as used in the confessional.[2]» < 1351000122 471558 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1351000144 359634 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : so you use it in all sorts of contexts it'd otherwise be inappropriate < 1351000151 700859 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you already do that though! :) < 1351000722 873878 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, even more so < 1351000830 141689 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1351001338 428037 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1351001339 547784 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1351001476 199643 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1351001522 90715 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1351001707 734681 :hagb4rd|afk!~perdito@koln-5d81f501.pool.mediaWays.net QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1351001813 592298 :hagb4rd|afk!~perdito@koln-4db43b22.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1351003268 374679 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1351003286 708875 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1351003364 878563 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1351003663 284379 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1351003698 893251 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-20-131.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1351003703 345133 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-20-131.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1351003703 426264 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1351003709 276806 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-20-131.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1351003709 671621 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen said 1h 14m 41s ago: well apparently you were right, zzz is not strictly-speaking equivalent to brainfuck... see cpressey's comment on zzzzzz! < 1351003715 881044 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1351003734 18946 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, "zz" is a command and "zzz" is another < 1351003742 543163 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so parsing might turn out to be somewhat difficult < 1351003758 177757 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-20-131.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :The author probably thought it was a good idea < 1351003771 848101 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-20-131.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :but was obviously worng < 1351003773 534541 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-20-131.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :*wrong < 1351003891 471633 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-20-131.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Intended brainfuck equivalent, but failed" < 1351003892 346983 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-20-131.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1351003931 364915 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1351003986 296155 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1351004125 884589 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@222.122.156.78 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1351004502 788518 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: I'm starting to think we should have a category for that :p < 1351004637 878692 :atriq!~Taneb@host-84-13-87-177.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1351004639 808547 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there an esolang whose syntax consists entirely of invisible unicode characters? < 1351004645 396827 :atriq!~Taneb@host-84-13-87-177.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whitespace? < 1351004673 278344 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1351004678 739168 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zero-width as well, i mean < 1351004700 521965 :atriq!~Taneb@host-84-13-87-177.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unispace? < 1351004815 474123 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you can start an Emmental program by renaming all instructions \0, \1, etc. < 1351004864 537274 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :soft hyphen is a fun invisible character < 1351004881 804440 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :as are the various bidirectional overrides/embeds < 1351004904 721396 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :What happens when you use a combining mark next to an invisible character? < 1351005000 161899 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know, if you create this language and use it to implement itself, it would probably be the first unicode aware self-interpreter < 1351005007 663623 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :for an esolang < 1351005091 954657 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was about to say < 1351005174 139931 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm I guess the prevalence of brainfuck equivalents is a corollary of Wadler's Law < 1351005238 613189 :atriq!~Taneb@host-84-13-87-177.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew someone called Wadler. < 1351005243 549864 :atriq!~Taneb@host-84-13-87-177.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how he's doing < 1351005280 411452 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@222.122.156.78 JOIN :#esoteric < 1351005431 72814 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: I think I wrote a partial Underlambda interp which was Unicode-aware for no obvious reason < 1351005436 294670 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it wasn't a self-interp < 1351005437 280337 :barts_!~barts@p4FD0F494.dip.t-dialin.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can name things with utf word characters in php. is php an esoteric language? < 1351005498 677521 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, PHP lacks even that redeeming quality < 1351005517 725481 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, it's not really unicode aware < 1351005530 486459 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=18556 < 1351005558 61009 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it is unicode aware, it just becomes aware that it can break things in more ways < 1351005564 456645 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, I recognise the email address of the reporter < 1351005566 923314 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but am not sure from where < 1351005584 31809 :barts_!~barts@p4FD0F494.dip.t-dialin.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i remember you were able to use non-breaking spaces in names < 1351005624 443079 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey is there a "random" service on google ? < 1351005625 170501 :barts_!~barts@p4FD0F494.dip.t-dialin.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in another life, you were a php developer < 1351005629 886997 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, show me random pages from the internet < 1351005633 179510 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: it looks like it's using the current locale to parse identifiers < 1351005650 889715 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :A good approximation is to search for porn < 1351005658 974013 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, in Turkish, lowercase I is ı, capital i is İ < 1351005662 248650 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :And throw in random words < 1351005673 214533 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: I doubt it, porn is one of the most heavily seo'd of industries < 1351005741 49030 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, how the hell does the "I'm feeling lucky" button work? as soon as you start typing you're redirected to the search page < 1351005773 175465 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try < 1351005775 184335 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :pressing it < 1351005817 103672 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen: it automatically goes to the first result < 1351005829 499540 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: my point is it cannot be pressed < 1351005833 844469 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or clicked or whatever < 1351005834 967639 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the name is because if you're lucky, the first result will be what you want < 1351005845 394621 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen: well it probably only works if you have instant results off < 1351005850 36904 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1351005852 992127 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do I do that < 1351005862 499948 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha, wow < 1351005870 338152 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I'm feeling lucky is now a button that exists just to be there < 1351005873 646090 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's beautiful < 1351005900 645926 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bet Clint Eastwood uses it. < 1351005904 801645 :barts_!~barts@p4FD0F494.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1351005909 688818 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also, if I hover the mouse over it, it starts spinning < 1351005919 383597 :barts!~barts@g230224002.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1351005942 599056 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen: it's in the options somewhere < 1351005952 228607 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and is replaced by random stuff like "I'm feeling hungry" or "I'm feeling stellar" (which redirects to results for "restaurants" or image results for "nebulae", respectively) < 1351005955 956068 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it's probably like the upvote/downvote counter on Reddit < 1351005961 780217 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the numbers are actually entirely made up < 1351005964 291488 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: recently I haven't even be able to get google in english < 1351005980 105305 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIRC Google did studies that said people would be super mad if they got rid of I'm feeling lucky < 1351005986 437048 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :even though nobody actually /used/ it < 1351005989 770744 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :other than manually typing google.com/search?hl=en&q=(query here) < 1351005996 173096 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but apparently user feedback was that they preferred blatant lies to removing the values entirely < 1351006006 359971 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yes, I thought it'd be similar to the reddit situation < 1351006018 355411 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the reddit situation < 1351006024 720339 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :every now and then someone asks why there are so many downvotes on what looks like an uncontroversial post, and someone has to explain < 1351006050 314977 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen: well I dislike Google, and typically preferred other search engines < 1351006052 89850 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen: haha, I never noticed the spin before < 1351006060 563531 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :neither did I < 1351006061 940389 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used Wikia Search back when it existed < 1351006068 871809 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the numbers are entirely made up? < 1351006074 993688 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(note: I started hating Wikia some time after it stopped existing, so there's no real contradiction there) < 1351006075 889618 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: well I'm seriously considering using something else < 1351006076 455167 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then what is it based on < 1351006087 419482 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nowadays I use DuckDuckGo < 1351006102 428633 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: nothing < 1351006103 840565 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wasn't that just a proxied google? < 1351006108 422696 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just upvote and downvote numbers that add up to the right thing < 1351006114 479665 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen: it's mostly a proxied Bing, acutally < 1351006121 70433 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the net upvotes - downvotes is real? < 1351006125 152238 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: yes < 1351006133 93797 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*kmc: yes < 1351006135 807807 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: sorry about the misping < 1351006139 799436 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see < 1351006149 580112 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel misped. < 1351006154 601345 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I think it is actually based on the real numbers. < 1351006159 577805 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're just so heavily fudged it's meaningless. < 1351006175 518997 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would seem strictly inferior just to making it entirely fudged < 1351006955 647950 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-71.elisa.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1351006997 909562 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: anyway that PHP bug you linked seems to be a demonstration of the fundamental problem that it's impossible to be case-insensitive in every language at once < 1351007023 345202 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only backwards-compatible solution I can think of would be to insist that PHP identifiers are case-insensitive in English, regardless of what language is being used to process data < 1351007042 119247 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :meanwhile, the PHP devs are trying (and failing) to solve every possibility at once, which is ofc impossible < 1351007070 880019 :atriq!~Taneb@host-84-13-87-177.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1351007141 536337 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it's perfectly possible to fail at that < 1351007175 815288 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1351007185 879176 :atriq!~Taneb@host-2-99-90-135.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1351007394 610716 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: not sure I understand < 1351007402 780860 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I see < 1351007406 320712 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you intentionally misparsed my sentence < 1351007424 439345 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's possible to be case-insensitive in every language at once. Simply make no distinctions at all. < 1351007446 256799 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the PHP developers are trying and failing so hard at so many things < 1351007453 103428 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :The downside is that this means that there is only one usable identifier. < 1351007487 355798 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, what happens if you try to be case-insensitive in every language at once? Can you show that if you do that, then two "obviously different" identifiers end up being the same? < 1351007565 513345 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :How would one be case-insensitive in chinese < 1351007595 847222 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chinese makes no case distinctions. I'd say it's impossible *not* to be case-insensitive in Chinese. < 1351007689 983249 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the contrary < 1351007700 120539 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you can be case-sensitive and case-insensitive at the same time < 1351007743 951117 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, if you define "case-sensitive" as "sensitive to at least one case distinction", and "case-insensitive" as "not sensitive to any case distinction"... < 1351008140 312286 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-20-131.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1351008575 959177 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How soon after a job fair will employers typically contact you if they're interested < 1351008656 573186 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could ask them < 1351009125 565777 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-71.elisa.ee QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1351009210 93637 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-60.elisa.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1351009414 545986 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1351009589 802116 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1351009741 330286 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1351009785 570690 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: did he say "we'll be contacting you" or something? < 1351009842 239247 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of them said if you don't hear back from us, let me know. I don't remember about the others < 1351009943 578170 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the logical answer to that would be to let him know immediately, and then if in the future when you hear back from them, use your time machine to stop yourself from letting them know < 1351010243 507400 :atriq!~Taneb@host-2-99-90-135.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure xkcd has made that joke before < 1351010335 70405 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember that. Perhaps Munroe thought it was trite and went back in time to erase it. < 1351011200 522898 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does Famicompo Mini have a maximum song duration rule? < 1351011757 741831 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's like the law of the excluded middle < 1351011853 653652 :barts!~barts@g230224002.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1351011955 339961 :barts!~barts@p4FD0F494.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1351012039 347098 :carado!~user4539@78.250.232.165 JOIN :#esoteric < 1351012193 960505 :atriq!~Taneb@host-2-99-90-135.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1351012427 963792 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-60.elisa.ee QUIT :Quit: Left < 1351012592 812833 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1351012667 225927 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: i don't think there's a circumstance where it hurts to try to contact them again < 1351012716 109405 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not to be like "WHY WON'T YOU TALK TO ME?!?!?!!?" but just "I enjoyed talking to everyone at the job fair, and I'm excited to hear back about the next steps" < 1351012780 191951 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, well, that one employer gave a time frame < 1351012806 188083 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :even then I don't think it would hurt to send them an email < 1351012892 167018 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :companies like to see that you are excited < 1351012950 776831 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dear Shankly, < 1351012951 135491 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric : SO ARE YOU GOING TO GIVE ME A PAYCHECK OR WHAT < 1351012951 216473 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yours sincerely < 1351012962 24029 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the company actually called shankly < 1351013686 375461 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1351013881 786414 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-20-131.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1351014369 378597 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1351015642 98051 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, is that the name of the people whose job it is to give you a paycheck? < 1351015686 8087 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: What are you saying is like law of excluded middle? < 1351015806 298074 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1351015816 926826 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1351015818 548213 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523 < 1351016010 937654 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'let him know immediately, and then if in the future when you hear back from them, use your time machine to stop yourself from letting them know' < 1351016043 447947 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is like the proof of excluded middle using call/cc i.e. peirce's law < 1351016118 925403 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here, have some absolutely disgusting gross and, worst of all, useless Clojure code that I wrote < 1351016119 519518 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ideone.com/BTJxYN < 1351016156 910307 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, so that is how it is. I don't entirely see how it is like that, but I guess it may be. (I think I made a law of excluded middle by call/cc) < 1351016162 825691 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"p is false! what, you claim p is true and provide a proof? let me just steal your proof and go back in time and claim that p was true all along!" < 1351016169 904778 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :^----- this is what classical logic actually believes < 1351016176 382547 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1351016335 507703 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, I suppose that is sort of like law of excluded middle with call/cc, although classical logic is not about time like this < 1351016365 650357 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1351016369 751424 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since I have once made the law of excluded middle from call/cc you may have seen before on this channel. < 1351016381 781396 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it is somewhat like how you described. < 1351016382 704068 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not entirely fair and accurate way to interpret classical logic < 1351016384 397247 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it is amusing < 1351016401 775838 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1351016462 740292 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(call-cc (lambda (cont) (Left (lambda (proof-of-p) (cont (Right proof-of-p)))))) < 1351016490 636535 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shankly would be a good name for a social network devoted to swapping information about how to shank people in prison < 1351016495 537250 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://achewood.com/index.php?date=01142005 < 1351016582 174233 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mine was Haskell, but OK < 1351016814 621475 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-20-131.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :What syntax highlighting schemes do you all use in vim? I'm sort of trying vim out for the first time, but I dislike the white background and yellow colors when I do :syntax on < 1351016904 393371 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: I use an old revision of lucius, slightly tweaked to fit with a transparent darkish background. < 1351016921 606174 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i use the default but my terminal is white on black < 1351016931 953523 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-20-131.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1351016942 435735 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-20-131.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Debian seems to have black on white as a default < 1351016944 382797 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-20-131.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should change that < 1351017037 633121 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: White background? Are you using gvim? =P < 1351017059 991353 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1351017065 157282 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-20-131.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, the debian terminal seems to have white as the default background < 1351017067 486591 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :What terminal do you use? < 1351017070 217565 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-20-131.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I changed that now < 1351017140 926089 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-20-131.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: the same with in another profile (gnome-terminal) < 1351017273 178322 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-20-131.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1351017278 270062 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-20-131.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :dumb question < 1351017287 905642 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-20-131.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do I switch to a second tab again? < 1351017303 297937 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-20-131.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I did vim -p *.ext < 1351017356 44013 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's :n < 1351017428 167974 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-20-131.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :It worked with :n < 1351017429 390920 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-20-131.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1351017460 624614 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could just close the current file with :q too < 1351017464 839523 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then you can't come back to it < 1351018339 581017 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.171 JOIN :#esoteric < 1351018869 20384 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are trapdoors that you can't come back from < 1351019171 331457 :carado!~user4539@78.250.232.165 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1351019197 69976 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also my law of excluded middle in Haskell put Left and Right the other way around but basically that is what it was < 1351019724 831546 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-20-131.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1351020287 295077 :Master7!~as989892@177.115.228.86 JOIN :#esoteric < 1351020422 869 :Master7!~as989892@177.115.228.86 QUIT : < 1351020464 278151 :Master7!~as989892@177.115.228.86 JOIN :#esoteric < 1351020975 370721 :barts!~barts@p4FD0F494.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1351021544 921919 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you tilt an underground cave? < 1351022126 713460 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1351022296 514999 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :tectonic motion < 1351022350 865626 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, by replacing once side of it with neutronium < 1351022676 376798 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think we have any of those things. < 1351022973 172326 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is this for? d&d? < 1351023000 561635 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1351023109 870337 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you need to tilt it? < 1351023132 872368 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :To gain an advantage in fighting the demon who owns it. < 1351023192 124785 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I already realized some things: I have an amulet which can negate magic, which I think will cause the water on the ceiling to fall down, extinguishing the candles, but it is probably not enough to cause much of a flood. < 1351023241 72125 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :This antimagic will still help a lot, though, since they will not be able to cast any spells at us. < 1351023346 864898 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there another way to get advantage (besides the usual stuff)? < 1351023409 791110 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :flanking, partial/complete cover, and the maneuver that shall not be named. < 1351024406 742516 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure those are some ways, but I think tilting the floor will help a bit, and so will the anti-magic. One thing that can be done with the anti-magic is cause the water to fall down, so we can pick it up and extinguish the candles which are lit around that room. < 1351024470 268164 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1351024833 719215 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@seen Oerjan < 1351024834 55941 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1351024848 778250 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!seen oerjan < 1351024856 479584 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`seen oerjan < 1351024867 174909 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: seen: not found < 1351024927 518133 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, /ns info is responding < 1351025573 18486 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1351025918 189274 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1351026145 454087 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arrow's theorem sucks. (As in, the implications suck, not as in I think that it's incorrect) < 1351026267 115616 :Master7!~as989892@177.115.228.86 QUIT : < 1351026629 985823 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.171 QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1351026652 514515 :Master7!~as989892@177.115.228.86 JOIN :#esoteric < 1351026859 530335 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: imagine I had created a wiki page for an "esolang" and was especially ashamed of it < 1351026879 839253 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it is a derivative of an already existing esolang, and doesn't bring anything new or interesting at all < 1351026902 505483 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :could I blank the page or something? < 1351027777 531124 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen, you could just ask Phantom_Hoover to kill you < 1351027813 213077 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey! it's not even a brainfuck derivative! < 1351027830 913543 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :to people tend to survive getting their brain replaced with a brick? < 1351027834 255430 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :*do < 1351027847 112960 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently yes < 1351027866 681958 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he threatened someone to have his brain repeatedly replaced with a brick then replaced with the brain again < 1351027907 490263 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's totally harmless < 1351027919 554753 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the brick or for the person? < 1351027946 45545 :hagb4rd|afk!~perdito@koln-4db43b22.pool.mediaWays.net QUIT :Quit: hagb4rd|afk < 1351028246 35889 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no comment < 1351028614 353164 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1351028627 487331 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1351028629 63665 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523 < 1351028642 475030 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you know why, in this Dungeons&Dragons game, that I need a wig and nail clipper and facial hair trimmer? (Hint: I don't use them on myself! Also, the wig has two purposes and the others only one.) < 1351028658 576603 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably you don't know because I haven't told you, but you can try to figure out. < 1351028686 342636 :hagb4rd|afk!~perdito@koln-4db4112f.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1351029329 878396 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1351029576 879434 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1351029952 50893 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Based on the hearts surrounding it when it was briefly shown in one of the videos, I think http://blog.cgpgrey.com/politics-in-the-animal-kingdom/ likes Schulze voting < 1351029987 852958 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wooo i got my first letter from tv licensing trying to extort me < 1351030002 371296 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at last i am a man grown < 1351030147 122898 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are they writing? < 1351030147 459351 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1351030155 343645 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1351030201 326105 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu PART :#esoteric < 1351030335 902643 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, uh, do you know how TV licensing works < 1351030395 802637 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1351030404 366497 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not quite. < 1351030450 630465 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need to pay for a license to watch live tv on any device < 1351030476 428109 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the attitude of the agency that collects it is that the onus is on you to prove that you don't have to pay < 1351030477 409178 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, yes, in England yes I read that somewhere. I still don't know exactly how they work, though. < 1351030493 279903 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How can you prove that you don't have to pay? < 1351030533 704297 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :by not being caught watching live tv < 1351030554 790143 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if you never do that they'll still assume you're a freeloader and try to intimidate you < 1351030668 820788 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1351030669 934744 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :usa < 1351030723 30084 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1351030750 451279 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I read somewhere, you can watch it later, you don't have to pay, and that if it is black and white you still have to pay but not as much as colors? < 1351030774 496654 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that how it works? < 1351030926 558174 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno about the second part < 1351030929 524399 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :first part is true < 1351030938 520423 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION vaguely wonders if it would be possible to have a voting system where voters submit functions.
< 1351030986 168618 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have to pay for audio? I think I might have read somewhere that you don't but I am unsure. < 1351030987 843027 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As in, apparently one criticism of IRV is that voters can't actually change where their "next" vote goes based on who lost, so multiple rounds gives more flexibility. < 1351030995 279343 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But maybe a function that ... hm < 1351031104 178027 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could they encrypt the broadcasts and then broadcast the key afterward, so that if you don't pay you are forced to watch after you can decrypt the recording you have made? < 1351031568 778599 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9rk-JTCCck < 1351031611 109001 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: possible, certainly < 1351031614 280141 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :worth it? probably not < 1351031981 231226 :MoALTz!~no@host86-138-31-117.range86-138.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1351032682 578661 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: Poulet! < 1351032741 870213 :sivoais!~zaki@199.19.225.239 NICK :cooljj_21 < 1351032759 121624 :cooljj_21!~zaki@199.19.225.239 NICK :sivoais < 1351032872 878991 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1351033473 832732 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Arc_Koen < 1351034509 864080 :Master7!~as989892@177.115.228.86 QUIT : < 1351034724 934498 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should play Alchemy < 1351034748 640657 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I actually bought the standalone version a long time ago < 1351034762 405677 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to say PC version, but the flash version runs on PCs, so.. < 1351034937 600034 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1351034949 482803 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Many programs can run on PCs. < 1351034969 200983 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :git log --pretty=%s | grep ^[A-Z] | awk '{print $1}' | sort | uniq -c | sort -nr | head -n 10 < 1351034978 390674 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whether it is native codes, running standalone, by an operating system, or an emulator, it may run. < 1351035105 471088 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1351035135 243112 :SimonRC!~sc@fof.durge.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1351035209 671369 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, but what's the best way to distinguish between the Flash version of a game and a version that's a .exe? < 1351035289 512301 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, it seems to actually be Java not Flash < 1351035328 888651 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it is a Windows .exe file then call it the Windows version. < 1351035408 163004 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it should only be called software for PC if it is meant to run on the PC with only the hardware and BIOS not needing operating system and so on. That way, you can distinguished more easily you can say specifically what operating system/programming language/whatever if it is for some specific system. < 1351035443 522344 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :After having watched a video of some expert playing Alchemy, I realized I have no idea of basic Alchemy strategy < 1351035473 15944 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The person discarded runes that could have been placed < 1351035477 252866 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rather often, actually < 1351035537 379595 :SimonRC!~sc@fof.durge.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1351035855 606440 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1351036354 713856 :Slereah_!x@ANantes-259-1-204-58.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1351036415 812487 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-230-15.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric