00:00:05 and at the end of episode 4, she takes the cuffs off 00:00:13 no, at the end of episode 3, sorry 00:00:18 and episode 4 starts with her leaving 00:00:36 with unsurprising "oh hey I was hiding an artefact in my pocket" scenes 00:00:43 ah 00:00:43 and then daniel jackson collapses 00:00:46 and she's back 00:00:50 *shocker* 00:01:04 was he an artefact-powered robot 00:01:08 and then the opening sequence starts, and that's where I am 00:01:59 but there is a goa'uld glider in the opening sequence, that's... disturbing 00:02:12 though I guess they should be called "jaffa glider" now, or something 00:02:35 so these goa'uld haven't invented the aer 00:02:37 oplane 00:02:43 -!- nooodl_ has joined. 00:02:56 wooooow Amanda Tapping is still in the sequence 00:03:06 that's weird 00:03:28 well from what I could gather from the 8 first seasons the goa'uld haven't invented anything 00:03:42 they just stick around for millenia and took stuff from about every culture in the galaxy 00:03:50 except the airplane? 00:04:17 -!- sirdancealot has joined. 00:04:20 and then 3 people from earth discover the stargate, and a couple years later, the goa'uld are all dead 00:04:35 "it was an accident, we swear" 00:04:55 yeah they have a tendency to start all-out galactic wars by accident 00:05:21 actually that's how season 9 starts :( 00:05:34 -!- nooodl has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 00:06:03 "oh hey, now we at last are gonna have peace in our galaxy! finally! hey what's that device?" *teleports to another galaxy* *start an all-out intergalactic war* "oops" 00:07:21 -!- copumpkin has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 00:07:22 that works for atlantis too (though in that case I guess they only "awakened" a war that had been slowly going on for the past ten millenia) 00:08:02 -!- copumpkin has joined. 00:08:22 ok, the dominatrix girl is definitely not in the opening sequence 00:12:24 http://www.cosplayisland.co.uk/files/costumes/1333/26176/Vala%20Mal%20Doran.png 00:12:32 you think *that* looks dominatrixy? 00:20:30 -!- pikhq has joined. 00:20:34 -!- pikhq_ has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 00:25:57 -!- elliott has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 00:26:25 -!- elliott has joined. 00:27:48 -!- FireFly has quit (Excess Flood). 00:29:24 -!- FireFly has joined. 00:45:53 Phantom_Hoover: dazzle me 00:46:53 uh 00:47:39 http://www.thescifiworld.net/img/interviews/raelee_hill_03.jpg 00:47:51 (she did make an entry in the previous season dressed in one of those darth vader clone trooper outfits) 00:48:08 uh, is that the same actress? 00:48:36 no, aeryn's costumes generally just have an overabundance of leather 00:49:03 but: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nv2EWaCPRz8 00:50:21 haha 00:52:01 then there's most of the rest of that season, but i can't be arsed to check if it's on youtube 01:07:05 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 01:08:42 -!- nooodl_ has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 01:14:49 -!- pikhq_ has joined. 01:15:01 -!- pikhq has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 02:19:11 -!- Sgeo has joined. 02:30:48 random thought of the day before I wish you sweat dreams: 02:31:19 if I give my blood every other month until I'm too old 02:31:40 sweat dreams 02:31:43 is there a risk to develop a left elbow cancer? 02:32:14 I just felt I had to share that thought :-) 02:32:31 -!- Arc_Koen has quit (Quit: Gateship. 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It goes through the gate!). 02:38:13 is "nondeterminacies" a word 02:46:49 ew 02:47:00 arc wished us sweat dreams? 02:47:17 "the gross version of wet dreams" 02:47:23 or even "nightmares" 02:48:05 haha 02:50:11 and you want indeterminacies probably 02:50:26 i think i'm still not allowed to give blood 02:50:50 i'm ineligible until next november 02:51:18 i think indeterminacies means something slightly different 02:51:29 i want to talk specifically about the parts of a system which are nondeterministic, rather than just the ones whose state i don't know 02:51:34 granted that is something of a subjective distinction 02:52:46 then say "nondeterminstic subsystem" 02:53:13 ew 03:14:53 -!- elliott has quit (Quit: Leaving). 03:43:26 I feel like I'm being adored by my gf and her parents for what I consider to be basic human decency. 03:46:00 I get the exact same feeling from my gf, oddly enough. 03:49:31 Well, in this case, it's more one specific thing that happened today 03:59:29 * pikhq_ inquires 04:04:08 another way to phrase that is "i don't give myself enough credit for being a good person" 04:05:16 I'd accept that phrasing. 04:17:22 -!- elliott has joined. 04:45:34 Oh, didn't see your inquiries 04:45:37 inquires 04:46:42 gf was feeling very sick at school and upset at being sick. I met up with her as soon as she texted (I was on campus), stayed with her at medical office, and until she got a cab to go home 04:46:59 -!- copumpkin has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 04:47:31 -!- copumpkin has joined. 04:51:10 pikhq_, poje 04:51:14 poke 04:51:23 Sgeo: Hmm. 05:01:07 poje 05:01:58 "Poje", Finnish for "poke" 06:02:42 play -n synth 5 sine 350 sine 440 channels 1 06:11:42 -!- segorev has joined. 06:12:00 -!- FreeFull has quit (Quit: Bye). 06:16:19 Is it pathetic that I'm using a Java decompiler on a .jar I made? 06:17:48 not pathetic, just a little bit funny 06:17:56 you do what you gotta do Sgeo 06:18:07 I don't have to do it 06:18:20 There are other ways for me to view the code 06:18:28 Just right now I find the decompiler the most convenient 06:18:54 (I did not download the decompiler for this particular .jar, but for another one for which a decompiler actually makes sense) 06:25:53 -!- Bike has quit (Quit: leaving). 06:30:27 -!- Bike has joined. 06:34:57 -!- Jafet has quit (Quit: Leaving.). 06:47:31 -!- Frooxius_ has joined. 06:47:32 -!- Frooxius has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 06:47:33 -!- Frooxius_ has changed nick to Frooxius. 06:52:41 22:44 mostly what I wanted to know when I came here was a general idea of why Haskell did everything with monads so I could see the way the languages was coming together in my mind as I progressed through the tutorials. 06:52:53 Why is the Internet so misleading? :-( 06:53:49 -!- elliott has quit (Quit: Leaving). 06:54:11 -!- elliott has joined. 07:00:43 oh no i've learned how to use bash arrays 07:01:58 also i have written some silly commands, like 07:01:59 f() { echo : synth 0.2 sine $1 sine $2 channels 1 pad 0 0.1; }; play -n synth 2 sine 350 sine 440 channels 1 $(f 1336 852) $(f 1477 770) $(f 1209 852) $(f 1336 770) $(f 1477 697) $(f 1336 941) $(f 1477 852) : synth 2 sine 440 sine 480 channels 1 pad 0 4 repeat 99 07:03:40 -!- Jafet has joined. 07:05:01 kmc: That's a weird experience. 07:06:28 kmc: Context? 07:06:51 ? 07:07:07 which experience is weird 07:07:10 learning to use bash arrays? 07:07:17 The phone dial thing. 07:07:39 it's just the sound of dialing a phone 07:07:54 Unexpected, and even though I'd just run the command I immediately wondered what phone the sound was coming from. 07:08:02 :) 07:09:24 Why is it 8675309? 07:09:47 There's a song. 07:10:05 Oh, is it that Jenny thing? 07:10:08 I don't know if I've ever heard the actual song. 07:10:21 I'm sure I haven't heard it, but I have heard of it. 07:10:32 Just not often enough to recognize the number. 07:11:03 wow you decoded it 07:12:00 I'm a bit sad I didn't get to decode it from a waveform. 07:12:11 It would've felt so CSI-ish, I believe. 07:12:37 "It's in redbook. Fortunately, I speak redbook!" 07:12:51 (This was not a request for making a waveform with some other DTMF digits, I've got actual work to do.) 07:13:28 DTMF decoding was one of the Matlab exercises on the introduction-to-DSP course, I think. 07:13:41 Death To Motherfuckers decoding 07:13:59 the true meaning of christmas??? 07:15:04 yes 07:38:24 I'm not sure whether to be impressed by JSONP or disgusted that it needs to exist. 07:39:20 sgeo: Yes. 07:40:18 ...I feel like a derp for only realizing the horrific security implications after having read that part of the Wikipedia article. 07:44:30 -!- nooga has joined. 07:53:27 -!- w64code4670 has joined. 07:53:57 God! www.mejesus.com 07:54:59 "It's-a me, Mario." 07:55:15 w64code4670: I think you accidentally the protocol. 07:55:37 I’m going to assume you meant gopher:// 07:57:15 I assumed HTTP, but I think I assumed wrong, because there an ArgumentOutOfRangeException in c:\domains\mejesus.com\wwwroot\App_Code\MeCulture.cs, on the line if(avaliable.Contains(s.ToLower().Substring(0, 5))). (That's one detailed error message.) 07:58:23 So… not avaliable. 07:59:10 -!- w64code4670 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 08:08:13 -!- Bike has quit (Quit: fak). 08:16:45 -!- epicmonkey has joined. 08:18:10 -!- copumpkin has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 08:18:42 -!- copumpkin has joined. 08:34:33 -!- epicmonkey has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 08:43:10 -!- elliott has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 09:14:10 -!- segorev has quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep). 09:25:59 -!- Gracenotes_ has joined. 09:28:05 -!- Frooxius_ has joined. 09:28:05 -!- Frooxius has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 09:28:09 -!- Frooxius_ has changed nick to Frooxius. 09:29:50 -!- Lumpio- has quit (*.net *.split). 09:29:50 -!- Gracenotes has quit (*.net *.split). 09:40:55 -!- Lumpio- has joined. 09:42:00 -!- epicmonkey has joined. 09:46:39 -!- Frooxius has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 09:46:57 -!- Frooxius has joined. 09:58:31 -!- oerjan has joined. 09:59:32 -!- Lumpio- has quit (*.net *.split). 10:10:04 -!- Lumpio- has joined. 10:13:09 the rumors of my death etc. etc. 10:13:09 oerjan: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. 10:13:15 @messages 10:13:15 shachaf said 13d 10h 33m 36s ago: sorry 10:13:42 Poignant. 10:13:54 @tell shachaf YOU WILL BE SORRY 10:13:54 Consider it noted. 10:14:17 @massages oerjan 10:14:18 oerjan said 24s ago: YOU WILL BE SORRY 10:14:23 hi oerjan 10:14:31 we missed you :'( 10:14:37 it doesn't help that shachaf missed that i'd been there just two days before 10:14:54 oerjan: I don't logread. 10:15:13 oerjan: What was I sorry for, again? 10:15:22 i dunno, haven't got to that part yet 10:17:31 -!- monqy has quit (Quit: hello). 10:17:48 23:40:06: shachaf: Maybe you shouldn't make jokes about oerjan dying. 10:17:51 23:40:29: @tell oerjan sorry 10:18:47 Were they at least funny jokes? 10:19:32 i think they were undetectable jokes 10:19:41 @messages 10:19:41 You don't have any new messages. 10:19:48 @@ @tell shachaf @messages 10:19:48 Consider it noted. 10:20:28 @@ @tell ion @messages 10:20:28 Consider it noted. 10:20:40 @_@ 10:20:45 @@ @tell shachaf @messages 10:20:45 Consider it noted. 10:20:49 @messages 10:20:49 ion said 3s ago: shachaf said 17s ago: ion said 40s ago: You don't have any new messages. 10:21:21 oerjan: So you didn't die? 10:21:23 What happened? 10:21:36 despite shachaf’s best efforts? 10:21:46 I bet he's logreading this right now <-- WOW SPOOKY 10:22:06 -!- Lumpio- has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 10:22:10 ion: No way! oerjan > /me / 3 10:22:27 Is that a "fat guy" joke? 10:22:28 wtf is that notation 10:22:52 oerjan: You're worth barely a third of a shachaf, I think. 10:23:06 OKAY 10:23:14 *more than* a third! 10:23:22 People! Pay attention! 10:23:30 oerjan: Speaking of which, have you used any lenses lately? 10:23:54 nope, my eyesight is ... ok maybe i should have checked it again. 10:24:10 *it checked 10:26:58 ok now the people in the logs are _actually_ joking about my death. 10:27:33 -!- Lumpio- has joined. 10:27:36 and then it went downhill from there. 10:27:49 don't do it, oerjan! 10:27:51 don't logread! 10:28:03 ...i'm just searching for my nick... 10:28:13 no intention of reading _everything_ 10:31:26 I just searched for your nick too. 10:31:32 "Downhill" is kind of mildly put. 10:37:30 hm i'm still logged in on esolang on this computer 10:38:04 i sort of expected logouts to be global for a nick 10:56:30 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: Trying a reboot). 10:58:43 -!- oerjan has joined. 11:07:41 -!- nooga has quit (Quit: Lost terminal). 11:40:35 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: Ribbit, ribbit). 12:21:12 -!- atriq has joined. 12:25:24 -!- segorev has joined. 12:32:47 poonikins the magic warrior princess http://youtu.be/rt4p9A-U4Ko 12:44:23 -!- segorev has quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep). 12:49:44 -!- segorev has joined. 12:50:48 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 13:09:57 -!- atriq has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 13:10:47 -!- atriq has joined. 13:21:23 -!- segorev has quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep). 13:22:01 -!- segorev has joined. 13:34:42 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 13:35:51 -!- ineiros has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 13:37:48 -!- copumpkin has quit (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.). 13:53:22 -!- hagb4rd has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 14:10:19 -!- copumpkin has joined. 14:22:50 -!- Gracenotes_ has changed nick to Gracenotes. 14:35:04 -!- Mousey_tongue has joined. 14:36:46 -!- Mousey_tongue has left. 14:51:40 -!- Arc_Koen has joined. 15:01:32 -!- nooodl_ has joined. 15:08:00 -!- PinkStack has joined. 15:11:04 -!- boily has joined. 15:20:51 -!- nooodl_ has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 15:27:10 -!- PinkStack has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 15:30:10 -!- carado has joined. 15:38:31 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 15:39:15 Hello 15:45:14 hi. 16:16:58 -!- carado has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 16:17:36 -!- carado has joined. 16:30:08 -!- epicmonkey has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 16:38:41 ok, carriage interpreter in Ocaml seems to be working 16:57:36 Yay! 16:58:08 I was writing in Haskell, but I don't know if I'll bother 16:59:36 Because CPressey already did 17:00:30 On another note, how easy is it to set my computer up as a proxy server? 17:02:18 I guess that depends a proxy server for whom 17:02:28 buuuuut I really don't know anything about it 17:06:28 and what kind of proxy 17:06:37 What Are You Really Trying To Do (tm) 17:07:29 Who Knows 17:07:32 (tm) 17:15:35 -!- FreeFull has joined. 17:18:00 -!- Bike has joined. 17:39:13 Well, the candidate I voted for lost quite badly 17:39:45 -!- epicmonkey has joined. 17:47:29 for what? 17:47:33 fedora code name? 17:48:01 Police and Crime Commissioner 17:48:11 Much less important 17:48:22 oh 17:48:49 But yeah, 16.4% turnout 17:48:54 Not many people care 17:50:03 -!- oerjan has joined. 17:50:45 Huh 17:50:58 > (56 + 26.6) + 10.6 17:50:59 93.19999999999999 17:54:11 -!- Vorpal has joined. 17:55:27 lambdabot: Are you SURE? 17:55:50 why didn't it print 93.2, HASKELL SUCKS 17:56:00 -!- elliott has joined. 17:56:09 Yeah, even the Windows calculator is better! (Disclaimer: didn't test Windows calculator.) 17:56:44 windows calculator is 5 times as fast because it has fewer assembly instructions (disclaimer: did not measure speed) (disclaimer: did not look at disassembly) 17:56:59 kmc: Because it doesn't use decimal/fixed-precision arithmetic by default 17:57:42 Windows calculator calculates 2^100000 like a champ. Yep. 17:58:38 LIKE A BOSS 17:59:33 > 2.0^100000 -- LIKE A CHUM 17:59:35 Infinity 17:59:40 We're impressed by your “haskell” tag answers on Stack Overflow. We appreciate your contributions, and would like to invite you to create a professional profile on Stack Overflow Careers 2.0. 17:59:41 A Careers 2.0 profile is a great place to showcase your professional work as a programmer – Stack Exchange answers, open source projects, even the books you’ve read. 17:59:41 Click here to accept the invitation. It’s free! 17:59:50 guys I already have an account I just don't use it 18:00:20 i got that email once 18:00:24 and ignored it hardcore 18:00:42 cuz like...doesnt every poster get one? 18:00:59 something like that yes 18:01:20 I actually do have a shitload of rep from the haskell tag though so if there was a reasonable threshold I would probably cross it 18:03:32 -!- sirdancealot has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 18:05:44 -!- copumpkin has changed nick to doliator. 18:09:09 Trivia: GEDCOM doesn't support people having more than 999 children 18:11:49 i wonder how many have had that. 18:13:26 i recall that a significant fraction of asians are decended from the same man, theorized to be genghis khan. although that doesn't mean he'd have had to have that many directly. 18:13:34 *descended 18:14:18 I heard 0.5% of everyone, and 5% of Asians 18:14:25 He did rape, pillage, and burn a lot. 18:14:32 If he focused on the first, he could maybe manage it,. 18:16:34 if you look far enough into the future, odds are extremely high that either everyone alive is descended from you, or nobody is 18:17:08 -!- sirdancealot7 has joined. 18:17:39 -!- doliator has changed nick to copumpkin. 18:18:09 kmc: 93.2 may be a more correct approximation, but it would mislead you into believing the answer is exactly 93.2 18:18:37 whereas everyone knows what 93.1999999999999 means! 18:20:05 kmc: would it be possible that every person x from generation (far enough into the future) is descended from *every* person y from generation (present)? 18:20:22 unlikely 18:20:26 some people will have their line die out 18:20:28 assuming we dump those who don't have kids 18:20:35 even if you have kids, your kids might not 18:20:54 Arc_Koen: obviously it should use interval arithmetic by default 18:20:55 there are also isolated groups, like the sentinelese. 18:21:00 no, I mean, if my kids don't have kids, then we dump my kids, thus I don't have kids, thus we dump me 18:21:25 (sad story) 18:22:38 oh 18:31:31 it might be possible that for some pair of generations, everyone who has descendants has all of the others as descendants 18:32:08 ./carriage '11+$11+111+@!' 18:32:08 Fatal error: exception Carriage.EXPLOSION 18:32:12 atriq: :( 18:32:58 heh, I finally got my SB Live card working under windows 7, with the alpha kX drivers. What a difference to the crappy on board Intel "HD" it is. 18:33:19 of course that's what should be expected when being overconfident and putting raise (EXPLOSION) everywhere where something might go wrong, with no indication as to *what* went wrong 18:33:56 examples 1 and 3 work fine, though 18:34:01 raise TheRoof 18:34:44 what language is it that uses "raise" to throw exceptions? 18:35:02 Ocaml does 18:35:06 ah 18:35:59 C does… ^^ 18:36:12 you can also use failwith "some text here" , which is equivalent to let _ = raise (Failure "some text here") in () 18:36:50 :t raise 18:36:51 Not in scope: `raise' 18:36:59 that is, it is equivalent to ignore (raise (Failure "some text here")) 18:37:20 @hoogle Exception a => a -> b 18:37:20 Control.Exception.Base throw :: Exception e => e -> a 18:37:21 Control.Exception throw :: Exception e => e -> a 18:37:21 Control.OldException throw :: Exception e => e -> a 18:38:42 i feel like i should say something about ocaml sucking 18:39:30 go ahead 18:39:53 ocaml sux 18:40:03 mm yes 18:40:07 quite 18:43:38 F♯ is AWESOME tho 8-D 18:43:57 props for using correct sharp symbol 18:44:16 Well, I was actually referring to the musical note. 18:44:20 The language is fucking terrible. 18:44:28 someone should make a language called F♯ A♯ ∞ 18:44:42 -!- Frooxius has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 18:45:05 -!- Frooxius has joined. 18:54:43 kmc: did you know that C Sharp is actually officially C# 18:54:46 not C♯ 18:55:01 kmc: I think there actually is an A♯ 18:55:07 so all someone has to do is make ∞ and then write a polyglot in 'em 18:56:28 that sucks 18:58:08 you suck kmc 19:00:00 probably so 19:00:09 i suck myself?? 19:02:45 -!- Frooxius has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 19:04:11 -!- Frooxius has joined. 19:09:01 Grah GEDCOM is so ridiculously complicated 19:10:54 Bike: now i am arguing with a friend about whether south sentinel island should count as an independent country 19:11:02 they don't have international recognition, but neither do some other things he counts 19:11:15 they have complete control over their territory and its foreign policy and trade 19:11:19 why no one tell me about this https://github.com/orangeduck/CPP_COMPLETE 19:12:32 hahaha, you're welcome 19:14:17 their claim to such is not really disputed either 19:15:57 aren't they officially just sort of vaguely "administrated" by the indian government? 19:16:08 yeah 19:17:12 "Ultimately just this should be enough for turing completeness. Using these truth tables one could theoretically make a binary computer much like has been done in systems such Conway's Game of Life or even Minecraft." 19:17:15 that's only finite memory goddamn it 19:17:18 charlatan 19:18:13 oh good it gets fixed later 19:18:17 yeah, that sounded off to me too, but it does look like what he actually created /is/ at least a LBA 19:18:21 i'm more disappointed that he didn't use NAND instead of AND 19:19:34 /*! Empty Data Array - Extend for more Cells */ 19:19:34 #define BF_DATA_EMPTY() (0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0) 19:19:34 okay 19:19:38 so it's not a proof of turing completeness 19:19:40 go home everybody 19:20:26 This should be really easy why isn't this really easy :( 19:20:29 Not that, this. 19:20:38 because of karma. 19:20:49 @karma atriq 19:20:51 atriq has a karma of 1 19:21:38 it's not a TC proof, but it is a passable implementation of BF 19:27:50 -!- Frooxius has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 19:27:52 oerjan: I thought it was more readable without the plainpres 19:27:56 (talking about LOCK) 19:28:12 or maybe it would be better as a "horizontal" table? 19:28:49 though the point of it being vertical is you can see identation 19:28:53 indentation 19:29:07 -!- Frooxius has joined. 19:29:25 exec 3>&2 > >(ts >> log) 2>&1 19:33:07 O KAY 19:33:32 I sense some disagreement in that okay 19:33:42 the force is strong in this one 19:33:45 *with 19:34:12 i missed O KAY 19:38:20 BUT IT'S RIGHT THERE HOW COULD YOU MISS IT 19:38:43 must be some disturbance in the force 19:39:01 atriq: how's your fueue interpreter going? 19:39:05 ah right 19:39:21 Arc_Koen, I had a really weird error 19:39:31 That worked differently when I tried to debug it 19:39:45 tell me more I want to laugh too 19:40:01 I said weird, not funny 19:40:03 But anyway 19:40:26 Running oerjan's Thue-Morse sequence program, it printed 0 then got caught in an infinite loop 19:40:30 So I tried to debug it 19:40:55 It printed "011" and errored trying to print an invalid character 19:42:18 And because the code is awful, I'm gonna clear it and try again 19:43:13 -!- Frooxius has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 19:43:33 -!- Frooxius has joined. 19:43:54 I think I might have run is similar bugs 19:44:21 oerjan: do you agree we blame this on your Thue-Morse sequence program? 19:44:28 I do not 19:44:54 that's why I asked Oerjan 19:47:20 well is there any interpreter which _does_ run it with the intended result? 19:48:03 mines do 19:48:12 good, good. 19:48:19 but they did have some problems the first times they encountered it 19:48:20 in which case, no. 19:48:50 what, just because one or two interpreters interpret it correctly, you assume there is nothing wrong with it?! 19:49:05 sure, that's the standard policy, right? 19:49:46 what if the interpreters are wrong and it cancels out? 19:50:18 then everything explodes in gamma rays. also standard policy. 19:58:41 -!- boily has quit (Read error: Operation timed out). 20:10:32 -!- AnotherTest has left. 20:19:22 heh 20:20:56 -!- monqy has joined. 20:25:57 -!- Nisstyre has quit (Quit: Leaving). 20:37:12 -!- Vorpal has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 20:37:45 -!- Frooxius has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 20:38:36 -!- Frooxius has joined. 20:40:28 -!- epicmonkey has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 20:42:51 Okay, writing it like this makes it significantly shorter 20:43:01 From about 100 lines of code to about 30 20:43:58 What did you change? 20:47:46 Replaced a big nested case tree thingy with viewpatterns 20:49:36 And it still behaves in the same way! 20:49:42 The same, really incorrect way 20:50:35 Everybody stock up on Twinkies! 20:50:50 The Twinkies you buy now will be the last for the REMAINDER OF YOUR LIFE 20:51:13 Screw twinkies 20:51:19 Eclairs all the way 20:51:28 what's Gregor babbling about 20:51:49 hehehe just beat my father 8-0 in backgammon 20:52:05 I think that's a pretty good argument in favour of "none of us knows how to play" 20:52:48 http://money.cnn.com/2012/11/16/news/companies/hostess-closing/ 20:52:52 oerjan: ^^^ 20:53:37 but but how then will america identify their future leaders 20:53:51 ` 20:53:53 oops 20:54:03 ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: : not found 20:54:08 ... loooooooooooool 20:54:19 Please, HackEgo, run the epsilon program. 20:54:26 oerjan: I don't know! 20:56:05 A world without Wonder “Bread” is a world not worth living in, my friends. 20:58:54 Real bread or no bread 20:59:27 "The Bakery, Confectionery, Tobacco Workers and Grain Millers International Union" 20:59:44 one of these is even less like the others... 21:00:31 -!- segorev has quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep). 21:01:27 -!- hagb4rd has joined. 21:10:37 Hmm, that could be causing problems 21:11:30 -!- ais523 has joined. 21:18:03 Okay, the Fueue program that should print the alphabet is instead printing out ^A, \-91 21:19:51 Arc_Koen, could you send me a run-through of the first couple of hundred steps of that program? 21:20:23 for some values of "a couple", yes 21:20:54 Does that include "a couple" == 2? 21:21:40 Or "all of them" 21:22:15 uh, well 21:22:24 truth is I don't have an option to count the number of steps 21:22:36 so I'll try to interrupt it before it overflows my window 21:23:08 Could you do "fueueinterpwhatever > file", and send me the file? 21:23:28 I don't think I wanaa do that directly 21:23:41 unless you can provide me with knowledge on how not to create an infinite-length file 21:24:22 or can I do ./fueuec --print ')$2[)$--------2~)~~[)[)~(~[~[$~H~]~)%+~91-):]~1+:])]]~[$~H~])%+-91)[65][65]' > file and then still halt at any time with ^C or ^D ? 21:24:40 wait, I seem to remember having that conversion with you a couple months ago 21:24:48 I don't recall this 21:25:14 hey can I combine that with sprunge directly? 21:25:21 ok, probably not a good idea 21:25:57 oh wait, it's a finite loop 21:26:01 that was instantaneous 21:26:07 probably not 200 steps then 21:26:18 ok, how do I send that to you? 21:26:30 Some pasting service? 21:26:32 is there some nice way I can send an email directly from the shell? 21:26:32 Email? 21:26:47 Originally email was only sent from the shell, Arc_Koen 21:26:54 shocker 21:27:13 I don't think so? 21:27:13 Not without setting it up, at least 21:27:33 so can I do something like "email -from koen@stuff -to atriq@stuff -content Hello atriq how are you"? 21:27:36 pastebin is easier 21:27:37 /usr/sbin/sendmail 21:27:48 I'm gonna abuse that command! 21:27:57 It's not abuse, that's what it's there for X_X 21:30:30 https://github.com/zodman/dpaster 21:30:58 that looks incredibly complicated 21:31:13 there are about 30 options and none of them seems to be the recipient's mail 21:31:39 It will probably be easier to paste it somewhere 21:31:49 in fact, it almost looks like I'm supposed to know stuff about email protocols 21:32:00 Arc_Koen: You're supposed to pass in the email headers. 21:32:11 that's what I just said! 21:32:12 Just use dpaster from above or something similar 21:32:12 mailx is a thing 21:32:19 And then give atriq a link 21:32:26 I'm gonna use thunderbird for tonight 21:32:33 but one day I sware i'll know how to send an email 21:32:48 Arc_Koen: Dude, email headers are ASCII pairs, it's not even remotely difficult X_X 21:33:12 To: whoever@wherever.com\nFrom: whosinwhatsit@wherever.weee\nSubject: I will eat your brains.\n\nBody 21:33:44 And /usr/sbin/sendmail -t is the only option you want. 21:34:00 i am intimately familiar with this structure, it being that i use vmail for my email, which has you edit the email document directly ;D 21:34:43 also, i believe you meant "Subject: Re: Your Brains\n" 21:35:14 Subject: Lunch? (was Re: Your brains) 21:36:20 ok, well, email sent 21:36:35 Recieved 21:36:44 that was easy 21:39:05 atriq: also all numbers in the queue are preceded with a space, so "- 2" means [subtraction, 2] whereas "-2" means [-2] 21:40:16 atriq, elliott blah blah blah 21:40:26 21:40:29 you forgot monqy 21:40:57 hisorry monqy 21:41:05 hi Sgeo 21:41:15 and elliott too 21:49:08 -!- epicmonkey has joined. 21:59:30 -!- copumpkin has quit (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.). 22:00:21 -!- segorev has joined. 22:03:54 Sgeo, Homestuck update 22:03:58 Do the thingy 22:04:08 I did the thingy. 22:04:38 Oh wait 22:04:39 You did 22:04:58 I thought that was you being annoyed at me and Arc_Koen for some reason 22:05:15 Thank you for the thingy 22:05:52 understandable 22:06:18 seeing as how similar "elliott" and "Arc_Koen" look 22:10:50 Got it! 22:10:52 Aha! 22:10:54 Ahaha! 22:11:33 mad with fueury 22:21:20 Okay, it now successfully prints "A" 22:21:27 And I know why it doesn't get onto "B" 22:32:07 -!- epicmonkey has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 22:32:40 SUCCESS! 22:33:17 IMPOSSIBLE! 22:33:53 now to write a fueue interpreter in fueue 22:34:15 Oh no! 22:34:21 Oh don't you dare be wrong now! 22:34:30 The Alphabet program works 22:34:39 The Thue-Morse sequence program prints "0" 22:38:17 a good beginning 22:38:51 And nothing else... 22:44:50 Arc_Koen, could you give me a similar run-through for the Thue-Morse one? 22:44:58 of course 22:45:08 Thank you 22:47:43 75.5 Mo 22:47:45 is that too much 22:48:09 What unit is a "Mo" 22:48:27 oh right 22:48:37 the o stands for octet, which is french for byte 22:48:44 Aaah 22:48:45 Heh 22:49:02 so, 1000000 bytes, or something 22:49:12 Could you pipe it through "head -n 1000" or something? 22:49:16 I never know whether it's 2^20 or 10^3 22:49:20 ok 22:50:45 sent 22:50:58 Recieved 22:56:41 75.5 mol 23:09:00 that's a lot of bytes 23:09:34 Especially seeing as it diverges from mine in about 12 lines 23:11:28 > 75.5*6e23 23:11:30 4.53e25 23:12:07 the o stands for octet, which is french for byte 23:12:08 joking right 23:12:29 well 23:12:29 how so? 23:12:37 i guess french might use octet where others would use byte but 23:12:42 octet is a term outside of french 23:12:51 and actually octet and byte have subtly different meanings that nobody cares about 23:12:57 SUCCESS 23:13:04 yeah, "octet" has an "eight" thing into it 23:13:30 Hmm, someone should use "octave" for something. 23:13:35 As far as I can tell octave = bit 23:13:44 but since "Mo" didn't ring a bell, I just assumed it was french 23:15:13 But you might be able to get away with octave = 12 bits? 23:15:29 Now I need to write a main action, test it, make a back up, and then mess with it 23:15:46 byte meaning 8 bits is like word meaning 16 bits except more so 23:16:19 thing is we really don't have another word for byte in french 23:16:22 i'm not sure what the distinction is between the machine-specific definitoins of byte and word, though 23:16:38 other than that byte got fixed to 8 bits and people still needed a term for one unit for the machine 23:16:53 (which is ok, because anyone caring about the distinction would do their work in english anyway) 23:16:55 People use "word" to mean 32 or 64 bits, though. 23:17:04 Sometimes they prefix it with "machine" or something. 23:21:46 02:40:18 < Sgeo> ...I feel like a derp for only realizing the horrific security implications after having read that part of the Wikipedia article. 23:21:57 your intuition is bad and you should feel bad 23:23:01 Sgeo: having dealt with someone who needs a lot of attention, it is on some level basic human decency, but there is definitely a point where it stops being because you have other shit to do 23:24:06 Do I want to know context? 23:25:09 First part about horrific security implications is about JSONP 23:25:37 Second part is how I felt like I adored by my gf for having basic human decency for staying with her on campus when she got sick 23:25:38 -!- segorev has quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep). 23:26:36 I am not familiar with JSONP 23:26:42 Or your girlfriend, for that matter 23:26:42 it's ok 23:26:44 it's dumb 23:27:32 My girlfriend is not dumb. 23:28:01 was not talking about it 23:28:11 How seriously sick are we talking? 23:29:11 Nothing lethal. 23:31:23 Sick as in "acutely sick in class" 23:31:56 Actually, I can imagine using JSONP, if I control both services 23:33:01 atriq, JSONP is the idea of doing an AJAX-like thing from a different domain by making a SCRIPT tag that src's the service and the service returns the data wrapped in a function call, function supplied by the requestor 23:33:04 Okay, that sick, I would say it definitely is basic human decency 23:33:12 Okay 23:33:18 yeah, if it's acute, definitely 23:33:21 I'm gonna go now and probably sleep or something 23:33:24 Who knows 23:36:08 Apparently her ex wouldn't have done that. I asked. 23:37:25 ass 23:38:38 -!- atriq has quit (Read error: Operation timed out). 23:39:55 but would her ex have asked 23:46:28 Sgeo: My girlfriend is not dumb. / coppro: was not talking about it 23:46:28 nice 23:47:44 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 23:59:15 df update: i'm so awful at designing things