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00:08:03 <elliott> kmc: "Why is selective function import a part of the language and not a part of the compiler process?"
00:08:29 <shachaf> Don't bug kmc with #haskell annoyances, elliott.
00:11:40 <shachaf> elliott: did you hear::
00:11:47 <shachaf> toListOf "recently got upgraded"
00:11:57 <elliott> no
00:12:12 <shachaf> "old defn:"
00:12:29 <shachaf> toListOf l s = foldMapOf l return
00:13:06 <elliott> oh the Endo thing
00:13:22 <shachaf> "new defn:"
00:13:28 <shachaf> toListOf l = foldrOf l (:) []
00:13:33 <oerjan> :t toListOf
00:13:34 <lambdabot> Getting [a] s t a b -> s -> [a]
00:23:31 <kmc> künstlerroman is a good word
00:23:43 <Bike> story of an artist, right?
00:28:26 <kmc> eah
00:28:27 <kmc> yeah
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00:34:49 <elliott> monqy: hi
00:34:56 <monqy> hey
00:37:04 <Phantom__Hoover> nomqy
00:39:26 <Phantom__Hoover> my only nose, quickly yanked!
00:50:26 <monqy> better get another
00:54:09 <Phantom__Hoover> bga?
01:03:43 <Sgeo> hi monqy
01:04:12 <ion> Meanwhile in Finland http://dublimat.blogspot.ch/2012/11/9-year-old-girl-prosecuted-for-piratism.html
01:04:18 <kmc> shachaf: oh, now i understand why you said the other channel was talking backwards
01:04:22 <Bike> "piratism", that's new
01:04:59 <ion> An easy mistake, piracy is “piratismi” in Finnish and many loanwords from English pretty much just have an additional “i” in the end.
01:05:09 <kmc> https://www.google.com/search?q=meanwhile+in+finland&tbm=isch
01:05:09 <Bike> oh, heh.
01:05:15 <shachaf> kmc: "od ot gniht looc eht sti"
01:06:23 <kmc> most of the joke seems to be "finland is cold"
01:09:53 <kmc> and maybe finnish people are also bad drivers???
01:10:03 <ion> and alcoholics
01:10:04 <shachaf> I thought Finnish people were good drivers.
01:10:23 <kmc> ion: no any image with such joke is automatically converted to "meanwhile in russia"
01:10:51 <kmc> i wanted to see pictures of people doing esoteric programming in saunas
01:15:02 <shachaf> kmc: Isn't any kind of programming esoteric if you do it in a sauna?
01:17:26 <kmc> no
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01:38:55 -!- kmc has set topic: (using fingers to indicate triangular shape) SMELL SMELL SMELL GOOD NEW NEW NEW slice drink MATCH SPARKLER (thrown in air) STARS STARS STARS | the good news is, /usr/bin/make-loud-noises works. the bad news is, I think I just woke everyone up. | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/.
01:42:40 <Arc_Koen> I hate this whole "supervillain team-up" thing
01:43:04 <Arc_Koen> the trust and senator kinsey were bad, the goa'uld were bad, therefore kinsey and the trust have become goa'uld
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01:43:45 <Arc_Koen> the jaffa garrek is bad, the ori are bad, thus garrek becomes a prayer of the ori
01:44:09 <Arc_Koen> it's like they have no free will, no personality, no nothing, they are just "the bad guys"
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01:46:24 <Arc_Koen> I wonder why no replicator has been infected by a goa'uld yet
01:47:34 <Arc_Koen> when they were first introduced I thought they had a lot of potential
01:48:13 <Arc_Koen> but every episode where they appeared basically was "the replicators almost took over the galaxy, but we managed to destroy them all at the last minute"
01:48:40 <Arc_Koen> I mean, you have an enemy whose attribute is that it can replicate and evolve
01:48:51 <Arc_Koen> meaning you can do *anything* with it
01:49:14 <Arc_Koen> well they did try that little "take human form" thingy but once again they blew it really fast
01:49:34 <Arc_Koen> "oh hey look at my sonic disruptor"
01:51:12 <Arc_Koen> hopefully some of them were left on the asgard's galaxy and they can come back in season 9 or 10
01:54:48 <kmc> apparently it's a thing where you hack a website but only change the content seen by Googlebot
01:55:00 <kmc> so you game pagerank without the admin finding out
01:55:36 <Arc_Koen> are you talking about programming in saunas, or about replicators?
01:55:48 <Bike> you haven't seen that? sometimes you see the weirdest shit in the meta tags
01:56:28 <kmc> Meta Tags Say The Darndest Things
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02:00:08 <Arc_Koen> there's no input in MURIEL? :(
02:01:52 <Arc_Koen> oh, ~ works
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03:14:08 <Arc_Koen> wait, it's spelled "prior", not "prayer"??
03:14:53 <elliott> prior is spelled prior
03:14:56 <elliott> prayer is spelled prayer
03:15:01 <kmc> hth
03:20:55 <Jafet1> Not to be confused with prier
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03:31:21 <Arc_Koen> oh, thanks, elliott
03:31:25 <Arc_Koen> now I understand
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03:49:28 <shachaf> help
03:49:41 <shachaf> I took my computer out of the bag and it was off.
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03:53:35 <shachaf> How do I find out why?
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03:56:40 <Jafet> Anal probes
03:57:20 <shachaf> Yay, PDFs are working in my browsers again.
03:57:24 <shachaf> So not all was lost.
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04:17:27 <Sgeo> Is Java reflection slow?
04:17:45 <Sgeo> Because I'm considering creating closures in order to avoid repeatedly performing reflection
04:24:34 <Sgeo> ...that was intended for #clojure
04:25:04 <Sgeo> <Raynes> It depends on how fast it turns around and sees itself.
04:26:42 <shachaf> Wait, mosh is written in C/C++?
04:26:45 <shachaf> I thought it was C++
04:29:58 <kmc> there are actually some files compiled as C
04:30:00 <kmc> or... there were
04:30:27 <shachaf> How's Android mosh doing?
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04:30:56 <shachaf> Hmm, I wonder what's going on with the ConnectBot annoyance I'm encountering.
04:41:54 <kmc> shachaf: this person who says that grepping for malloc and free is sufficient to security audit C code is scaring me
04:42:05 <Bike> what
04:42:18 <shachaf> kmc: Silly person.
04:42:22 <shachaf> You have to grep for realloc too
04:42:24 <shachaf> And strdup
04:42:26 <shachaf> And all sorts of things.
04:42:40 <kmc> also that it's "barely a security hole at all" if a server you log into can attack the machine you logged in from
04:42:58 <kmc> shachaf: but not alloca because it's automatic, am i right?
04:43:35 <shachaf> kmc: Was this person talking about C or C++?
04:43:47 <kmc> C++ but they actually included new and delete too
04:44:07 <kmc> i mean these days nobody has any business logging into any shared server
04:44:15 <kmc> you should spin up a new VM in the cloud for every program you ever want to run
04:44:53 <kmc> i mean the idea that an operating system should provide some kind of security or fault isolation or any usable service at all is just laughable
04:45:23 <pikhq_> Everyone knows that's the job of the hypervisor.
04:45:27 <kmc> right
04:45:37 <kmc> see the OS is insecure because it's a bunch of hairy C code
04:45:43 <kmc> but the hypervisor, now that's a bunch of hairy C code
04:45:49 <kmc> so it's probably fine
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05:47:53 <kmc> shachaf: I had another idea for devious code
05:48:25 <kmc> a latex package which does something useful but also exfiltrates your SSH private key through slight adjustments in the positions of letters
05:48:45 <shachaf> Since no one reads TeX code?
05:49:06 <pikhq_> Could probably be well-commented as doing that, in fact.
05:49:11 <kmc> heh
05:49:32 <shachaf> kmc: Did you know Firefox will let a .html file read files in the current directory?
05:49:34 <kmc> well i think it would be more fun to bury it inside the kind of incomprehensible gibberish one expects to see in a latex package
05:49:38 <kmc> shachaf: woah, how's that?
05:49:52 <shachaf> I.e. if you $ cd; wget evil.html; firefox evil.html, it can see your SSH key.
05:49:56 <shachaf> I have a proof of concept somewhere.
05:50:02 <kmc> that's awful
05:50:20 <shachaf> It just lets your XMLHttpRequest() it!
05:50:25 <shachaf> Apparently they don't consider that a bug.
05:50:28 <kmc> you can also make it open that tab from a website
05:50:38 <shachaf> Yes, but the file needs to be on your disk.
05:50:38 <kmc> you can do an xhr to a file:// url?
05:50:40 <kmc> sure
05:50:48 <shachaf> No, just XHR to a relative path.
05:51:05 <kmc> but it should be pretty easy social engineering of something people wouldn't generally consider dangerous
05:51:18 <kmc> in fact
05:51:19 <kmc> hmm
05:51:27 <kmc> a lot of people set ~ as the default download directory right?
05:51:53 <kmc> so you could serve this html file as application/octet-stream, it gets downloaded automatically, and then you navigate to it
05:52:00 <kmc> so i think this actually requires no user interaction :(
05:52:05 <shachaf> http://slbkbs.org/evil.html
05:52:15 <kmc> let me just download this to my home directory to inspect it
05:52:15 <shachaf> kmc: Hmm...
05:52:53 <shachaf> Things get downloaded to ~/Downloads by default in most browsers, I think.
05:53:17 <shachaf> But I hadn't considered that aspect.
05:53:45 <kmc> well first dumb question: can you use ../
05:54:26 <shachaf> No.
05:56:23 <kmc> ok
05:56:30 <kmc> but i can at minimum read any file in your downloads directory
05:56:34 <kmc> just by you clicking a link i construct
05:56:37 <shachaf> If you have autodownload, yes.
05:56:41 <shachaf> But you can't list the directory.
05:56:55 <kmc> and by knowing the path to your downloads directory, maybe
05:57:09 <shachaf> Can file:/// use ~?
05:57:23 <shachaf> Looks like not.
05:57:56 <shachaf> If you ask the user to upload a file, do you get that file's path on disk?
05:58:07 <kmc> chrome sends C:\fakepath\something
05:58:13 <kmc> i don't know about ff
05:58:33 <kmc> shachaf: did you report this as a bug in firefox?
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06:00:16 <shachaf> kmc: I talked to someone who worked at Mozilla about it and he agreed it was a bug, but I don't know if anything came of that.
06:00:20 <shachaf> Well, not a bug.
06:00:26 <shachaf> He agreed it was a security issue.
06:00:32 <shachaf> I think this is pretty well-known, though.
06:01:00 <shachaf> It didn't work in Chrome when I tried.
06:01:26 <shachaf> Maybe I should file a bug.
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06:03:02 <kmc> i think you should
06:05:27 <fizzie> It's at least documented to work that way; http://kb.mozillazine.org/Security.fileuri.strict_origin_policy "True: Local documents have access to other local documents in the same directory and in subdirectories, but not directory listings. (Default)"
06:06:40 <shachaf> Yes, this is considered pretty well-known and expected behavior in Firefox, as far as I could tell.
06:12:40 <kmc> sigh
06:13:04 <fizzie> All those "this CD has an index.html which uses resources from the disc" things would perhaps bork if you enforced an even stricter thing.
06:18:12 <fizzie> http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=40787 -- it's not like Chrome's way is exactly popular either, apparently.
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06:31:26 <Gregor> HERE'S A FUN GAME: Find a YouTube video on the semi-recent scientific discovery of Neanderthal genes in modern humans, and see how many clicks through related videos it takes to get to something incredibly, intensely racist.
06:31:32 <Gregor> ALL TIME HIGH: 1
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06:34:43 <pikhq_> Gregor: I don't have enough alcohol at hand for that.
06:34:58 <pikhq_> I know it's not a drinking game, but it's needed.
06:35:51 <Gregor> X-D
06:50:15 <kmc> i think instead i will watch some youtube videos of trains running down the middle of the street
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07:45:37 <shachaf> https://github.com/ekmett/lens/commit/7ec5e55c130093ad3f3428da12f866453d9f8412
07:45:42 <shachaf> ion: See what you made me do!
07:46:29 <shachaf> I think this is the first time I've run into a type problem such that the easiest "legitimate" solution to it is to add unsafeCoerce.
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07:51:23 <shachaf> The purpose of this chapter is to expose the student to the use of pointer data types in the C and C++ language. Pointers are the most advanced feature of the C/C++ programming language and serve to set the language apart from other languages.
07:52:04 <Bike> what are you reading
07:52:15 <shachaf> "i dont even know"
07:52:29 <Bike> well yes but beyond that
07:53:11 <shachaf> The words you are now reading are the words I am now typing.
07:53:37 <Bike> whoa
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07:58:57 <Sgeo> monqy, Fiora asixifour
07:59:39 <shachaf> monqy: https://github.com/ekmett/lens/commit/7ec5e55c130093ad3f3428da12f866453d9f8412
07:59:44 <shachaf> "look what u made me do monqy"
08:00:35 <monqy> shachaf.............................
08:00:41 <monqy> no........................................
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09:17:41 <Sgeo> Turns out the apartment had cheese and I just didn't know where it was
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09:53:54 <atriq> Well, I've got a test on hyperbolic trig in about half an hour
09:54:15 <fizzie> You just add 'h' after everything, right?
09:54:29 <atriq> Pretty much
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12:20:21 <ion> shachaf: nice
12:22:54 <shachaf> ion: Even better: The comment is wrong.
12:22:59 <shachaf> You can segfault using that code.
12:26:11 <ion> :-D
12:26:52 <ion> think this sounds about ready for inclusion in the Platform.
12:26:55 <ion> I
12:27:25 <shachaf> ion: Look, I suggested EvilBazaar as a *joke*
12:27:35 <shachaf> edwardk was the one to tell me to push it.
12:29:09 <atriq> You could have called it UnsafeBazaar
12:29:14 <atriq> Like the Grand Bazaar in Istanbul
12:29:49 <shachaf> "Unsafe" is taken.
12:29:56 <shachaf> We have a function called unsafeEvilOuts now.
12:30:12 <atriq> Sounds like an exorcism
12:39:25 <ion> “Skype™ Version Copyright 2003-2012 Skype and/or Microsoft” and/or
12:40:39 <atriq> Maybe there was a bit they both made together
12:40:59 <shachaf> ion: So when people say monads are like boxes, what they really mean is that monads are covariant.
12:41:09 <atriq> Or maybe saying "and" would be wrong and "or" would look stupid
12:41:20 <atriq> Are comonads variant?
12:41:28 <shachaf> No, comonads are also covariant.
12:43:18 <atriq> When I say "Monads are like boxes", I generally mean they're pointed
12:43:30 <shachaf> What does that mean?
12:43:54 <atriq> Has a "return" or "pure" type functions
12:44:01 <atriq> *-s
12:44:09 <shachaf> Which does what?
12:44:18 <shachaf> The trouble with Pointed is that it doesn't mean that much.
12:45:02 <atriq> No, it really doesn't
12:45:08 <atriq> Neither does having a box
12:45:32 <atriq> I'm like a box, you can put stuff in me
12:46:07 <atriq> Does that mean I'm a monad?
12:46:08 <atriq> No
12:53:38 * ion puts stuff into atriq and draws x out of him.
12:53:52 <atriq> ion, I just ate!
12:54:31 * ion joins atriq who ate atriq who ate x.
13:25:57 <fizzie> Man, a gastroscopy isn't really all that much fun.
13:27:03 <Phantom_Hoover> good thing you said that, i had one booked next tuesday
13:27:39 <ion> It *sounds( fun.
13:27:41 <ion> *
13:28:02 <Arc_Koen> is that the thing where they put a camera in your belly?
13:28:07 <fizzie> Yes.
13:28:29 <Phantom_Hoover> i bet you feel like a right tit now
13:28:38 <Arc_Koen> do you get to keep the tape afterwards?
13:28:44 <Phantom_Hoover> "why did i ever think this would be enjoyable"
13:28:52 <fizzie> Well, a tube; it's got a camera and some kind of a pincer for taking samples.
13:29:29 <fizzie> And no; I would've gotten stills if there had been anything interesting to look at.
13:29:45 <fizzie> But apparently I've got a boring stomach.
13:30:49 <Phantom_Hoover> so are you doing anything to liven it up
13:31:17 <fizzie> I don't know, they didn't have any suggestions.
13:32:39 <Phantom_Hoover> waste of taxpayer money
13:32:46 <fizzie> I think I'll go put some food in it, though; had to keep it empty for the "fun".
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14:01:15 <shachaf> I don't know whether the worst thing about #haskell is the newcomers or the regulars.
14:01:19 <shachaf> I just hate everyboddy.
14:01:31 * shachaf = h8r
14:05:15 <ion> ∴ h8r = shachaf
14:10:59 <atriq> Note to self: "install" has an s in it
14:11:27 <shachaf> Huh?
14:11:38 <shachaf> I'm pretty sure none of the three characters in that word are 's'
14:11:50 <shachaf> i
14:11:50 <shachaf> n
14:11:52 <shachaf> <tab>
14:11:54 <shachaf> Nope, no 's'
14:12:34 <atriq> :P
14:13:06 <shachaf> What's Hexham like this time of year?
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14:14:37 <fizzie> It's always Hexvember at Hexham.
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14:17:09 <Phantom_Hoover> fizzie, that should be hexember
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14:23:21 <ion> Enhance? http://fi3.eu.apcdn.com/full/89448.png
14:24:25 <fizzie> Computer, enhance!
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14:37:49 <fizzie> Hey, Stephen Elop is Pole Nehpets backwards.
14:38:31 <fizzie> ^rot13 Stephen Elop
14:38:31 <fungot> Fgrcura Rybc
14:38:58 <Phantom_Hoover> which is...
14:39:12 <Phantom_Hoover> cbyr arucrgf backwards!
14:39:17 <fizzie> Oh no!
14:39:17 <ion> !
14:39:36 <Phantom_Hoover> ^rot13 cbyr arucrgf
14:39:38 <fungot> pole nehpets
14:39:42 <Phantom_Hoover> :O
14:39:42 <shachaf> Phantom_Hoover: but what is it forwards
14:39:44 <fizzie> How!?
14:40:04 <shachaf> Phantom_Hoover: I bet you could get a commutative diagram out of this.
14:40:08 <shachaf> And maybe a couple of PhDs.
14:40:36 <Phantom_Hoover> should i email my tutor or would he just steal my brilliance
14:41:06 <shachaf> publihs yourslef
14:41:08 <shachaf> on arxiv
14:42:09 <fizzie> Publish yourself, on pamphles distributed from a soggy cardboard box on campus.
14:42:20 <fizzie> (The more prestiguous way.)
14:43:15 <shachaf> Make sure you talk about how your discovery revolutionizes the field.
14:43:21 <shachaf> And also renders Einstein obsolete.
14:43:36 <Phantom_Hoover> i can be the next wolfram!
14:43:44 <fizzie> There was a well-known (FSVO) Finnish physics crackpot who used to self-publish books and potter around on university campusi.
14:44:09 <fizzie> His book was called (translated title) "Ether vortices".
14:44:19 <shachaf> There was a well-known British author who used to publish books and potter.
14:44:23 <shachaf> *At the same time*, man.
14:46:04 <fizzie> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kauko_Armas_Nieminen oo, notable.
14:46:24 <fizzie> The infobox photo is nice.
14:51:52 <Phantom_Hoover> i like how neutral that article is
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16:08:19 <ion> http://i.imgur.com/aAY28.png
16:09:42 <fizzie> That's ((TRUE ? "a" : TRUE) ? "b" : "c"), right?
16:09:48 <Deewiant> Yep.
16:10:00 <ion> Yeah, with automatic coercion of anything into a boolean.
16:11:17 <elliott> that one is a bit lamely obvious
16:11:17 <lambdabot> elliott: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it.
16:11:23 <elliott> isn't the only difference a precedence change from C
16:11:27 <elliott> er
16:11:29 <elliott> associativity change
16:11:40 <ion> elliott: The problem isn’t the associativity change, it’s the lack of a type error.
16:11:40 <Deewiant> s/C/all other languages with a ternary operator/, but yes
16:11:51 <elliott> ion: re message: indeed, that sugar was what I had in mind
16:11:57 <elliott> but I'd be willing to accept another syntax until -XIdiomBrackets is a thing :P
16:12:09 <elliott> and you wouldn't get that type error in C anyway
16:12:22 <elliott> "a" ? "b" : "c" works fine in C, I'm sure
16:12:51 <Phantom_Hoover> ion, should've done that hex parsing one
16:13:03 <Phantom_Hoover> where 0x0 +2 equals 4
16:13:59 <Deewiant> ("a" ? 1 : "c") is likely to give you a warning, though.
16:14:54 <ion> Yeah, C is the shining example of a great type system, no need to compare to anything other.
16:15:38 <fizzie> Random trivia for today: R7RS (draft) Scheme has six (6) different {quotient,remainder} function pairs. That should shut up the people complaining that R5RS's {quotient,remainder,modulo} triplet lacks the version of quotient corresponding to 'modulo'.
16:15:40 <elliott> well complaining that PHP is no stronger-typed than C, Java (I think? not sure how it behaves here), JavaScript, Ruby, Python, and a trillion other languages seems a weaker argument than associativity... nobody is expecting PHP to be Haskell :P
16:15:50 <fizzie> Java is stricter.
16:16:38 <fizzie> You don't get a default "!= 0" for numbers or "!= null" for reference types; bools need to be actual bools.
16:19:53 <fizzie> (The six types are {ceiling,floor,truncate,round,euclidean,centered}{/,-quotient,-remainder}.)
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16:20:41 <ion> http://ideone.com/zYaya4
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16:37:03 <ion> In PHP 5.2.11 that evaluates to true, in PHP 5.3.8 it evaluates to false and in PHP 5.4.8 it evaluates to true. So… == takes whether the version’s minor number is even into account?
16:42:34 <ion> The guy testing with 5.3.8 made a mistake. PHP is still absurd, but it’s consistent. :-P
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17:09:40 <elliott> ugh #haskell
17:10:04 <atriq> elliott, plot twist: Marr is DMM
17:10:27 <elliott> plot twist: pile-on 10-channel conflicting explanations help nobody
17:10:40 <atriq> Saw that one coming a mile off
17:10:44 <elliott> shouldn't have contributed to it by saying anything
17:10:48 <elliott> i suck
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17:17:45 <elliott> kmc: dispatches from #haskell: <Marr> Sooo about that " Halting Problem"...when you think about it, it really is possible to create a program that detects infinite loops <Marr> you just have to define what infinite is, right?
17:19:14 <atriq> That's strictly speaking true, but also completely useless
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17:38:42 <Sgeo_> Marr as in that idiot who was on B some time ago?
17:38:49 <Sgeo_> (Or was it Agora?)
17:46:35 <kmc> B?
17:47:06 <elliott> dead online nomic game
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17:52:14 <Sgeo_> M P Darke, in B
17:53:02 <kmc> tocatta and fugue in B
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18:09:27 <Phantom_Hoover> so uh, atriq, elliott said he'd be interested in starting a succession game
18:09:42 <atriq> Another one? But it's late winter!
18:09:53 <atriq> Talk to me, I'll read it when I get back
18:11:43 <Phantom_Hoover> idk, he said he'd be up for it
18:12:41 <Phantom_Hoover> it'd be fun to not use danger rooms, i think
18:13:46 <Phantom_Hoover> marksdorfs actually train at archery ranges in the new version, combine that with ballistas and intelligent trap placement and i think you could have a good passive defence
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18:15:56 <elliott> Phantom_Hoover: but if we don't have soldiers how will we invade hell
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18:19:59 <Phantom___Hoover> why am i dropping all the goddamn time
18:31:08 <atriq> elliott, we shall flood it!
18:31:14 <atriq> With cats!
18:32:30 <ion> “// in case /dev/urandom is reusing entropy from its pool, let's add a bit more entropy” *adds more entropy for crypto with a Mersenne twister* “$entropy .= uniqid(mt_rand(), true);” http://toys.lerdorf.com/archives/55-Writing-an-OAuth-Provider-Service.html (Rasmus Lerdorf, the creator of PHP)
18:35:36 <atriq> Anyway, elliott, Phantom___Hoover, I'm game
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18:43:50 <FreeFull> For encryption and related stuff
18:43:56 <FreeFull> Never, ever, use /dev/urandom
18:44:23 <ion> freefull: It’s okay if you add entropy on top of it with a PRNG.
18:45:02 <elliott> ISTR it is actually fine to use /dev/urandom in many cryptographic scenarios.
18:45:19 <elliott> which is to say someone who sounded credible said that once on LWN and I read it
18:45:40 <elliott> received wisdom being wrong is cool so I am obligated to believe it
18:48:23 <coppro> haha
18:48:37 <kmc> FreeFull: the urandom(4) man page says "As a general rule, /dev/urandom should be used for everything except long-lived GPG/SSL/SSH keys."
18:49:05 <elliott> bam I was right!!!
18:49:07 <elliott> take that received wisdom
18:49:14 <elliott> go cry with received punctuation
18:50:17 <kmc> there are a lot of cryptographic uses of randomness besides long-lived public/private key pairs
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19:04:53 <atriq> elliott, go start/continue/whatever the succession fort!
19:06:42 <elliott> you
19:06:45 <elliott> don't want me to start it
19:06:48 <elliott> ask Phantom___Hoover about forts I start
19:06:57 <Phantom___Hoover> uh
19:07:03 <Phantom___Hoover> what happens to forts you start
19:07:04 <atriq> Ask atriq about always being ready for a challenge
19:07:15 <atriq> In fact, I will
19:07:28 <atriq> @ask atriq What about always being ready for a challenge?
19:07:28 <lambdabot> You can tell yourself!
19:07:32 <elliott> well
19:07:35 <atriq> So I can!
19:07:36 <elliott> i could start it but
19:07:39 <elliott> i haven't played df in many months
19:07:42 <elliott> and it might not even survive a year
19:08:33 <atriq> Then it will be the BEST SUCCESSION FORT EVERY
19:08:36 <atriq> *-Y
19:08:46 <elliott> i
19:08:47 <elliott> Phantom___Hoover
19:08:48 <elliott> what do you think
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19:09:21 <Phantom__Hoover> this fucking connection
19:09:26 <Phantom__Hoover> yes go for it
19:09:40 <Phantom__Hoover> the more horrifying the better
19:10:25 <elliott> alright but
19:10:28 <elliott> you know not what you ask for
19:10:30 <elliott> um
19:10:32 <elliott> can i start it a bit later
19:10:34 <elliott> like not right now
19:10:43 <Phantom__Hoover> fine
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19:45:11 <kmc> sigh, things that are not the same: 360° range servo, continuous rotation servo
19:45:20 <kmc> also: 90° range, "90 degrees of freedom"
19:46:34 <fizzie> Wow, 90 degrees of freedom.
19:47:38 <kmc> i know, right?
19:48:23 <fizzie> I suppose it's some kind of a really complicated and redundant arm thing.
19:49:53 <kmc> maybe an octopus arm
19:50:26 <kmc> octopuses don't have proprioception of their arms because they have too many degrees of freedom
19:50:38 <kmc> instead the octopus just kind of gives high level instructions to the arms
19:50:43 <kmc> and then can use its eyes to see what the arms do
19:51:24 <Bike> infinite degrees of freedom, according to some random paper
19:51:58 <elliott> kmc: that sounds cool
19:52:00 <elliott> I wish I was an octopus
19:52:20 <atriq> You can be, with the magic of technology!
19:52:30 <olsner> infinite degrees? that doesn't make sense, I think
19:53:10 <Bike> it's 'cos of muscular hydrostats, I guess
20:03:18 <kmc> sure, anything with a finite number of particles can't have infinite degrees of positional freedom
20:03:32 <kmc> it's an approximation i guess
20:03:47 <kmc> like saying a rope has infinite degrees
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21:03:46 <oerjan> <shachaf> I think this is the first time I've run into a type problem such that the easiest "legitimate" solution to it is to add unsafeCoerce.
21:04:05 <oerjan> elliott: did you ever upload your type-threaded version of Data.Sequence?
21:04:17 <oerjan> that seems relevant
21:05:58 <elliott> it turned out to already exist but slightly different iir
21:05:58 <elliott> c
21:06:14 <oerjan> the unsafeCoerce in reflection also comes to mind, but "legitimate" is not a word i would use for that...
21:06:18 <oerjan> ah.
21:06:48 <elliott> oerjan: hey, you're illegitimate!
21:06:59 <elliott> :'(
21:07:14 <oerjan> well by some ancient definitions...
21:07:27 <oerjan> (i was born about a month after my parents married)
21:08:37 <atriq> I was probably born a considerable time after your parents married
21:09:19 <oerjan> atriq: and divorced, for that matter
21:11:33 <atriq> Heh
21:14:33 <oerjan> elliott: cannot find it on hackage, anyway
21:14:52 <elliott> thrist
21:14:53 <elliott> iirc
21:15:10 <oerjan> ...i know about thrist. i don't consider that the same at all.
21:16:49 <elliott> iirc it was basically identical when i compared things
21:17:34 <oerjan> well the part i considered interesting was how you combined thrist with Data.Sequence by simply using unsafeCoerce instead of redefining Seq
21:17:46 <elliott> wait, I didn't redefine Seq?
21:17:59 <elliott> oh hmm I didn't did I
21:18:01 <oerjan> not internally, no
21:18:02 <elliott> well maybe I can find the code
21:20:22 <kmc> shachaf: what was your problem?
21:20:41 <oerjan> the reason i don't consider the unsafeCoerce in reflection legitimate is that it's using accidents of similar representation, not just the guaranteed properties of unsafeCoerce
21:20:51 <oerjan> *"legitimate"
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21:21:12 <elliott> yeah i know
21:21:14 <elliott> but still
21:21:17 <elliott> monqy: hey waht's up
21:21:31 <monqy> hey
21:21:31 <lambdabot> monqy: You have 6 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them.
21:21:35 <elliott> 8)
21:21:41 <monqy> i
21:21:41 <lambdabot> monqy: You have 7 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them.
21:21:46 <monqy> i sent lambdabot a @messages
21:21:46 <lambdabot> monqy: You have 8 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them.
21:21:51 <monqy> elliott this is cheating
21:21:51 <lambdabot> monqy: You have 9 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them.
21:21:58 <elliott> 8 - )
21:22:30 <oerjan> `addquote <Sgeo> Turns out the apartment had cheese and I just didn't know where it was
21:22:41 <HackEgo> 868) <Sgeo> Turns out the apartment had cheese and I just didn't know where it was
21:22:45 <elliott> oerjan: what a coincidence
21:22:46 <ais523> `quote
21:22:48 <ais523> `quote
21:22:49 <ais523> `quote
21:22:51 <ais523> `quote
21:22:51 <HackEgo> 60) <oklopol> if a girl is that cute, i don't care how many penises she has
21:22:52 <ais523> `quote
21:22:55 <HackEgo> 100) <soupdragon> if you claim that the universe is more than 3D the burden of proof is on you to produce a klien bottle that doesn't self intersect <soupdragon> ^ I learned that trick from atheists
21:22:57 <oerjan> elliott: hm?
21:23:01 <HackEgo> 854) <oklopol> t <oklopol> y <oklopol> also i didn't say t\ny on purpose, i just accidentally hit the keyboard with my head
21:23:01 <elliott> oerjan: nothing
21:23:16 <HackEgo> 435) <Taneb> That offers me some social standing, feudal system wise
21:23:17 <HackEgo> 174) <Sgeo> HOT SEXY SEX BITS
21:23:29 <ais523> elliott: 174 and 435 are both pretty bad
21:23:42 <monqy> 174 is good
21:23:45 <atriq> Hot sexy sex bits offer me some social standing, feudal system wise
21:24:46 <oerjan> has the many-nicked one been seen lately
21:24:48 <elliott> ais523: 174 is undeletable, sorry
21:24:49 <shachaf> kmc: Problem?
21:24:51 <oerjan> (soupdragon etc.)
21:24:54 <elliott> oerjan: no
21:25:14 <ais523> elliott: what makes it undeletable?
21:25:18 <elliott> i
21:25:21 <olsner> ooh, are we doing the five quotes thing again!
21:25:21 <elliott> don't know how to explain it to you
21:25:22 <elliott> monqy: you try
21:25:29 <monqy> i cant
21:25:31 <monqy> its undeletable
21:25:33 <ais523> `delquote 435
21:25:37 <atriq> Noooo!
21:25:37 <HackEgo> ​*poof* <Taneb> That offers me some social standing, feudal system wise
21:25:39 <atriq> My legacy!
21:25:41 <elliott> i woul dhave done 854 btw
21:25:50 <Sgeo_> There is in fact context for me saying HOT SEXY SEXY BITS
21:25:50 <ais523> elliott: I was mixed on 854
21:25:57 <ais523> Sgeo_: but that's not what you said
21:26:16 <elliott> `quote
21:26:16 <elliott> `quote
21:26:17 <elliott> `quote
21:26:17 <elliott> `quote
21:26:17 <elliott> `quote
21:26:23 <Sgeo_> erm, also context for me saying HOT SEXY SEX BITS
21:26:31 <HackEgo> 575) <Gregor> Let us discuss the correct procedure for converting LP -> FLAC <fizzie> The correct procedure is: you put the LP into a flatbed scanner, scan it as a Windows .bmp file, and then rename that file to .flac.
21:27:05 <HackEgo> 131) <cheater99> incest is best
21:27:06 <HackEgo> 841) <itidus21> i think in general it's against nature for an animal to be a boat
21:27:08 <atriq> It would be amazing if 575 worked
21:27:11 <HackEgo> 398) <oerjan> as i was filled with zzo38 mystery at the moment i saw <zzo38> quintopia: I am at Canada.
21:27:13 <HackEgo> 145) <Gregor-W> You people. You people are so stupid. I'm making a SOCIOLOGICAL statement here.
21:27:18 <monqy> 131??? ???????? ?????
21:27:30 <olsner> monqy: it rhymes
21:27:34 <ais523> elliott: can we delete 131 because cheater is banned?
21:27:41 <elliott> yes
21:27:42 <elliott> `delquote 131
21:27:45 <elliott> we can delete it because it's a bad quote, too
21:27:46 <HackEgo> ​*poof* <cheater99> incest is best
21:27:49 <ais523> indeed
21:28:00 <ais523> I was going to argue for deleting it for that reason instead if I couldn't delete it for the first arugment
21:28:06 <olsner> we can only delete it once though, so which reason got it deleted?
21:28:07 <ais523> also, 398 is awesome
21:28:16 <atriq> Agreed
21:28:47 <ais523> it confuses me on at least two levels
21:29:10 <ais523> also, the quote in the topic, did it actually happen? because it should probably be addquoted in that case
21:29:13 <ais523> unless it is already
21:29:16 <ais523> `quote make-loud-noises
21:29:20 <HackEgo> No output.
21:29:34 <Sgeo_> Do flatbed scanners have enough resolution to see sufficient detail that a program would be able to determine the sounds?
21:29:58 <elliott> Sgeo_: sort of
21:30:08 <ais523> I can believe flatbed scanners with enough resolution exist
21:30:10 <elliott> http://www.phys.huji.ac.il/~springer/DigitalNeedle/
21:30:14 <ais523> I don't think typical consumer ones could do it, though
21:30:20 <Phantom__Hoover> wh
21:30:25 <Phantom__Hoover> are you scanning records or something
21:30:30 <ais523> `quote 575
21:30:34 <HackEgo> 575) <tswett> Come to think of it, I've praised you a little too effusively. I'm not *that* pleased. If you'll permit me to compensate slightly... <tswett> elliott: fuck you. <tswett> There. Perfect. Carry on.
21:30:37 <ais523> err
21:30:40 <ais523> `quote 574
21:30:43 <HackEgo> 574) <Gregor> Let us discuss the correct procedure for converting LP -> FLAC <fizzie> The correct procedure is: you put the LP into a flatbed scanner, scan it as a Windows .bmp file, and then rename that file to .flac.
21:31:37 <elliott> `quote
21:31:38 <elliott> `quote
21:31:38 <elliott> `quote
21:31:38 <elliott> `quote
21:31:38 <elliott> `quote
21:31:44 <elliott> i keep worrying something dumb i've said will come up
21:31:51 <elliott> there has to be something dumb i've said in the qdb
21:31:52 <HackEgo> 739) <fizzie> Stupid W|A doesn't even understand "Vatican papal density". (As far as countries go, they've got a quite high one.)
21:32:13 <atriq> I remember that!
21:32:18 <HackEgo> 454) <itidus20> Game theory is not a perfect tool for analyzing video games. <itidus20> Nash failed to create a "video game theory"
21:32:21 <HackEgo> 661) * oerjan concludes that unsafeCoerce has no effect on strictness
21:32:23 <atriq> Today I was trying to differentiate x^x
21:32:24 <HackEgo> 52) <apollo> I like Country music, Contemporary Christian, Alt. Rock, Folk, etc.
21:32:28 <HackEgo> 179) <ais523> fizzie: 50kB is quite a lot
21:32:35 <atriq> 52
21:33:53 <monqy> 52, 179
21:34:08 <ais523> 179 is only funny because 50kB is really small, right?
21:34:15 <atriq> Yes
21:34:28 <ais523> also, 661 isn't very funny either
21:34:30 <atriq> But I wouldn't like to copy 50kB by hand
21:34:30 <elliott> problem with 179 is it could be in a context where that statement is reasonable
21:34:35 <elliott> rather than the unreasonable context it was actually in
21:34:45 <ais523> 52 is just bad though
21:34:55 <elliott> i think 52 is there as mockery
21:35:00 <elliott> `delquote 52
21:35:04 <HackEgo> ​*poof* <apollo> I like Country music, Contemporary Christian, Alt. Rock, Folk, etc.
21:35:06 <elliott> `quote
21:35:06 <elliott> `quote
21:35:07 <elliott> `quote
21:35:07 <elliott> `quote
21:35:07 <elliott> `quote
21:35:11 <ais523> also it's by someone I've never heard of so I can't laugh at them
21:35:26 <HackEgo> 391) <elliott> oerjan: can you delete that and the meta turing completeness page <elliott> thanks <oerjan> elliott: IN UNIVERSO ALTERNATIVO, OERJAN PAGINAS DELET
21:35:30 <elliott> you can laugh at anyone if you try hard enough
21:35:50 <ais523> 391 is only funny because of the meme
21:35:53 <ais523> and it's not that great a meme
21:35:55 <HackEgo> 401) <Phantom_Hoover> oerjan, little do you realise that everything you say and do is part of that great monad tutorial we call life.
21:35:57 <HackEgo> 284) <ZOMGMODULES> elliott: parents who put just "Chris" on a birth certificate are... like parents who put just "Bob" on a birth certificate.
21:35:57 <elliott> i like 391
21:36:01 <HackEgo> 532) <Phantom_Hoover> The fact that the elves will be happy with this will hopefully be counteracted by the fact that I plan to drop them into the magma cistern.
21:36:02 <elliott> and 401
21:36:04 <HackEgo> 51) <Warrigal> I think hamsters cannot be inert.
21:36:04 <elliott> and 284
21:36:06 <elliott> and 532
21:36:07 <olsner> it's a little bit funny because of the latin I think
21:36:08 <elliott> and 51
21:36:18 <elliott> maybe one of them is worse than the others though
21:36:27 <ais523> I like the last four
21:36:37 <elliott> monqy: any opinions
21:36:41 <oerjan> ais523: in the beginning the `quote database was shared with another forum, which i don't recall the name of. the quotes from there seem to be gradually exterminated.
21:36:51 <ais523> oerjan: yes because they aren't actually any good, mostly
21:36:53 <monqy> elliott: probably there are worse quotes that are better to delete
21:36:58 <olsner> `quote 1
21:37:03 <HackEgo> 1) <Aftran> I used computational linguistics to kill her.
21:37:03 <ais523> we can leave them all if we like
21:37:09 <ais523> olsner: I knew that one off by heart :)
21:37:11 <Phantom__Hoover> wasn't it sine or something
21:37:13 <elliott> `quote
21:37:13 <elliott> `quote
21:37:13 <elliott> `quote
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21:37:27 <HackEgo> 566) <shachaf> elliott: GHC bug? Come on, it's the parentheses. <shachaf> The more parentheses you add, the closer it is to LISP, and therefore the more dynamically-typed.
21:37:51 <oerjan> ais523: it's not just that meme, but also the meme of elliott pretending i'm a wiki admin.
21:37:57 <HackEgo> 292) <zzo38> elliott: I doubt water memory can last for even one second in a gravitational field (or even outside of a gravitational field), but other people think they can make water memory with telephones.
21:38:05 <HackEgo> 619) <Phantom_Hoover> I think the worst part of growing up is that it isn't retroactive.
21:38:05 <HackEgo> 450) <monqy> itidus20: i saw a dancing cgi skeleton named malaria. i danced and played with him.
21:38:05 <HackEgo> 47) <oklopol> GregorR: are you talking about ehird's virginity or your soda beer?
21:38:06 <shachaf> imo 566
21:38:15 <ais523> oerjan: I thought you were a wiki admin
21:38:29 <elliott> apparently it has spread to ais523
21:38:42 <Phantom__Hoover> i thought you were an admin too
21:38:44 <ais523> elliott: shall we make oerjan an admin to help reduce confusion?
21:38:51 <monqy> what's up with 47
21:38:55 <ais523> 47 is great
21:39:02 <elliott> ais523: i think oerjan would not like that
21:39:07 <elliott> monqy: it's a long story
21:39:23 <ais523> 292 is particularly good
21:39:25 <olsner> has the oklo ever made a bad quote?
21:39:38 <shachaf> 566: worse quote or worst quote?
21:39:40 <ais523> I'd say 566 is the only one there I'd be willing to delete
21:39:46 <ais523> but it's still above average
21:39:47 <shachaf> ==ais523
21:40:03 <Phantom__Hoover> `quote 523
21:40:07 <HackEgo> 523) <zzo38> I think Perl is a programming language too. [...]
21:40:12 <elliott> oklofok: i think you owe me 50 pounds by the way
21:40:14 <elliott> `quote
21:40:15 <elliott> `quote
21:40:15 <elliott> `quote
21:40:15 <elliott> `quote
21:40:15 <elliott> `quote
21:40:21 <ais523> elliott: which bet was that?
21:40:24 <oerjan> ais523: and then we all change name to bruce?
21:40:26 <monqy> elliott: is this a long story too
21:40:28 <elliott> monqy: yeah
21:40:30 <HackEgo> 71) <Dylan> Warrigal is the Harlem Globe Frotter
21:40:31 <shachaf> `delquote 566
21:40:36 <elliott> i like 566
21:40:47 <shachaf> which one is 566
21:40:49 <shachaf> `quote 566
21:40:51 <HackEgo> ​*poof* <shachaf> elliott: GHC bug? Come on, it's the parentheses. <shachaf> The more parentheses you add, the closer it is to LISP, and therefore the more dynamically-typed.
21:40:57 <elliott> `revert
21:41:00 <HackEgo> 202) <zzo38> I have plans to make the computer and one day I will do it!! (I have access to barter some people might help with these things) It is many difference from other computer.
21:41:01 <HackEgo> 566) <shachaf> elliott: GHC bug? Come on, it's the parentheses. <shachaf> The more parentheses you add, the closer it is to LISP, and therefore the more dynamically-typed.
21:41:01 <elliott> RIP 566 not being there
21:41:08 <HackEgo> Done.
21:41:12 <ais523> wait what?
21:41:13 <shachaf> rip (rip 566)
21:41:20 <HackEgo> 737) <kmc> has there been any work towards designing programming languages specifically for stoned people
21:41:21 <HackEgo> 516) <Vorpal> ais523, how can TAEB take too long? It is turn based. As long as it isn't taking like several minutes per move it is acceptable! <ais523> Vorpal: it gets boring waiting for it
21:41:21 <HackEgo> 752) <fungot> elliott: the new fnord <fungot> elliott: what is the point? nothing changed.
21:41:21 <elliott> ais523: hackego is non-linear
21:41:22 <ais523> there's some weird race conditions going on /there/
21:41:25 <ais523> I know
21:41:31 <elliott> it makes sense if you know how it works
21:41:39 <elliott> 752 is a masterpiece
21:41:43 <ais523> this means we can't be sure on what numbers those quotes have
21:41:48 <elliott> 71 sucks
21:41:55 <elliott> 202 is good
21:41:56 <elliott> the other two I am apathetic about
21:41:57 <ais523> 737 is bad, 516 sucks, 71 sucks
21:42:04 <shachaf> ais523: plus how do we really know anything, man
21:42:08 <elliott> `delquote 71
21:42:10 <ais523> 202 is below-average for zzo38 quotes but still quite good
21:42:12 <HackEgo> ​*poof* <Dylan> Warrigal is the Harlem Globe Frotter
21:42:13 <ais523> yeah, agree on 71
21:42:15 <elliott> `quote
21:42:15 <elliott> `quote
21:42:15 <elliott> `quote
21:42:15 <elliott> `quote
21:42:16 <elliott> `quote
21:42:32 <HackEgo> 254) * yorick has quit (K-Lined)
21:42:37 <Sgeo_> We're going to run out of Sine quotes
21:42:47 <elliott> well 1 will never be deleted
21:42:48 <elliott> because it's 1
21:42:53 <elliott> shachaf: don't delete it just to contradict me
21:42:59 <monqy> `quote 2
21:43:06 <monqy> what's with 254
21:43:12 <HackEgo> 2) <Slereah> EgoBot just opened a chat session with me to say "bork bork bork"
21:43:17 <HackEgo> 278) <zzo38> I also do not like that it should be disallow just because of too weird. They haveto make up more name so that not everyone has the same name!!!
21:43:18 <ais523> 2 is good
21:43:19 <HackEgo> 808) <itidus21> you are like the linux torvalds of quiz engines
21:43:23 <monqy> i can relate to 2
21:43:23 <HackEgo> 713) <NihilistDandy> Benchmarks are only a good measure of surprise
21:43:23 <HackEgo> 488) <itidus20> well, you have bested me <zzo38> itidus20: Yes.
21:43:37 <ais523> elliott: I'd say 278
21:43:37 <elliott> 488 is also a masterpiece
21:43:42 <shachaf> elliott: can we delete 566
21:43:44 <elliott> i'd say 254
21:43:46 <elliott> what value does it have
21:43:50 <ais523> oh, missed 254
21:43:53 <ais523> yeah, 254
21:43:56 <Sgeo_> tswett, is Sine down?
21:43:58 <elliott> `delquote 254
21:44:02 <HackEgo> ​*poof* * yorick has quit (K-Lined)
21:44:04 <ais523> 487 is definitely a masterpiece
21:44:08 <ais523> it's so much better than 278
21:44:14 <elliott> `quote
21:44:15 <elliott> `quote
21:44:15 <elliott> `quote
21:44:16 <elliott> `quote
21:44:16 <elliott> `quote
21:44:28 <ais523> 808 and 713 are good too
21:44:28 <HackEgo> 550) <Phantom_Hoover> We have no leather. <Phantom_Hoover> Time to use that most venerable of resources, the puppy.
21:44:35 <Sgeo_> What's 487
21:44:41 <shachaf> `quote 587
21:44:42 <Phantom__Hoover> 550 is crap
21:44:45 <ais523> Sgeo_: 488 after a quote gets deleted before it
21:44:45 <shachaf> `quote 487
21:44:49 <ais523> yep, 550 is bad
21:44:51 <Phantom__Hoover> don't let elliott say otherwise, he added it
21:44:52 <HackEgo> 587) <Phantom_Hoover> Guys no don't fly a Jem Hadar ship into Cardassian space to shoot things I played that mission in FreeSpace and it never works.
21:44:59 <elliott> tsop quoting stuff while we're doing `quotes
21:45:02 <elliott> it's rly confusing
21:45:05 <HackEgo> 326) <Phantom_Hoover> Scotland turns from red and yellow to A DIFFERENT SHADE OF YELLOW
21:45:16 <HackEgo> 580) <Phantom_Hoover> It's like Pygmalion and Galatea but more weeaboo. <Phantom_Hoover> Also lesbian.
21:45:16 <HackEgo> 149) <alise> Why do you use random acronyms you know we don't know the expansions of? <pikhq> alise: TLAAW
21:45:20 <HackEgo> 641) <fungot> elliott: young john soon afterward receives as a visitor a fnord spaniard, fnord de moncada, who has escaped from fnord fnord dissolved in the absolute.
21:45:29 <HackEgo> 487) <itidus20> well, you have bested me <zzo38> itidus20: Yes.
21:45:30 <Phantom__Hoover> why are like 3 of those mine
21:45:31 <shachaf> fungot: join in "plz"
21:45:32 <fungot> shachaf: only format allowed to make money
21:45:36 <shachaf> fungot: hi
21:45:37 <fungot> shachaf: if your string is utf8, you might find it easier to implement
21:45:43 <shachaf> goood point fungot
21:45:44 <fungot> shachaf: so numedia cyclops didn't participate? you can do that to the docs.
21:45:51 <shachaf> fungot
21:45:51 <fungot> shachaf: what does it do with the difficulty of analyzing arbitrary code execution in the interim, if i can
21:45:54 <shachaf> fungot
21:45:54 <shachaf> fungot
21:45:54 <shachaf> fungot
21:45:55 <shachaf> fungot
21:45:55 <shachaf> fungot
21:46:01 <shachaf> hlep
21:46:23 <elliott> `quote
21:46:23 <elliott> `quote
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21:46:24 <elliott> `quote
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21:46:39 <HackEgo> 104) <alise> like, just like I'd mark "Bob knob hobs deathly poop violation EXCREMENT unto;" as English <ais523> alise: that's great filler <alise> ais523: well it contains all the important words in the english language...
21:46:49 <ais523> 104 is the best quote in the QDB, no exceptions
21:47:09 <HackEgo> 353) <fizzie> You make a fist, shake it at the sky, and shout "why, GNU, why?!" -- that is the standard reportig practice.
21:47:14 <HackEgo> 394) <oerjan> as i was filled with zzo38 mystery at the moment i saw <zzo38> quintopia: I am at Canada.
21:47:15 <HackEgo> 697) <Phantom_Hoover> (I vehemently oppose the SNP because they want closer ties with Sweden.)
21:47:16 <HackEgo> 563) <Sgeo> Can you build the ... why wouldn't you be able to, just and all the computables
21:47:30 <ais523> 563
21:47:37 <olsner> `addquote <shachaf> fungot <shachaf> fungot <shachaf> fungot <shachaf> fungot <shachaf> fungot <shachaf> hlep
21:47:39 <fungot> olsner: i read through the fnord service, you automatically grant to us a worldwide, fnord, lispme objects
21:47:41 <elliott> 563 is pretty good but maybe it's the worst one there
21:47:42 <HackEgo> 864) <shachaf> fungot <shachaf> fungot <shachaf> fungot <shachaf> fungot <shachaf> fungot <shachaf> hlep
21:47:47 <elliott> i change my mind, 864
21:47:47 <shachaf> imo 684
21:47:48 <elliott> `delquote 864
21:47:53 <HackEgo> ​*poof* <shachaf> fungot <shachaf> fungot <shachaf> fungot <shachaf> fungot <shachaf> fungot <shachaf> hlep
21:47:54 <elliott> `quote
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21:47:54 <elliott> `quote
21:47:54 <elliott> `quote
21:47:55 <elliott> `quote
21:48:00 <olsner> short-lived quote... oh well
21:48:08 <ais523> yeah that was a really bad quote
21:48:09 <HackEgo> 163) <zzo38> catseye: Please wake up. Not recorded for this timezone. The big spider is not your dream
21:48:19 <elliott> <3 163
21:48:28 <shachaf> ELLIOTT.
21:48:32 <shachaf> stop saying thingsngs
21:48:36 <shachaf> before we see all 5
21:48:47 <HackEgo> 337) <elliott> sgeo do you actually know what sex looks like i am just checking here <Sgeo> I think so
21:48:47 <shachaf> "don't bias the jury"
21:48:51 <HackEgo> 664) <fizzie> Do you want me to live dangerously and just stick it in the bot without testing it? <elliott> fizzie: Yes. <elliott> There is pretty much no way it won't be amazing.
21:48:52 <HackEgo> 598) <Ngevd> "Unlike other operating systems, Linux operating systems use Linux"
21:48:53 <HackEgo> 77) <MissPiggy> bi is like sqrt(2)/2 * straight + i * sqrt(2)/2 * gay
21:48:56 <ais523> shachaf: you're taking this way too seriously
21:49:09 <elliott> 77 is not very good
21:49:16 <ais523> yes
21:49:18 <ais523> because it isn't a joke
21:49:22 <ais523> I was looking there for one
21:49:23 <ais523> but there isn't one
21:49:27 <elliott> well, there are good non-jokes in the qdb too
21:49:28 <elliott> `delquote 77
21:49:33 <HackEgo> ​*poof* <MissPiggy> bi is like sqrt(2)/2 * straight + i * sqrt(2)/2 * gay
21:49:34 <shachaf> `quote joke
21:49:37 <HackEgo> 259) <oklopol> actually the first joke i thought elliott was making was that he's so small masturbation is gay pedophilia \ 298) <elliott> <Yahweasel> <Vorpal> that one doesn't make a lot of sense outside context. Unless it is supposed to be a rather lame joke about STD as in HIV, and so on // HELLO WELCOME TO QUOTE DATABASES 101
21:49:41 <ais523> elliott: yes but that would only be good if it were a joke
21:49:44 <elliott> `quote
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21:49:45 <elliott> `quote
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21:49:52 <elliott> i don't remember 259
21:49:59 <HackEgo> 483) <Patashu> it's the pain of the gaps argument <Patashu> no matter how good your robot is at feeling pain <Patashu> it's never close enough
21:50:35 <HackEgo> 550) <itidus20> according to physics and maths can we theoretically have a box with infinite cookies inside?
21:50:36 <HackEgo> 158) <oklopol> comex: what? <oklopol> *vorpal <oklopol> comex: hi, tab-complete completed c to comex instead of Vorpal, dunno why
21:50:38 <HackEgo> 730) <roper> ioihgfdddf
21:50:41 <HackEgo> 821) <mroman> You can't quote me.
21:50:52 <shachaf> > 730 + 821
21:50:54 <lambdabot> 1551
21:50:56 <shachaf> imo 1551
21:50:56 <elliott> `delquote 730
21:51:01 <HackEgo> ​*poof* <roper> ioihgfdddf
21:51:06 <elliott> `quote
21:51:06 <elliott> `quote
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21:51:08 <ais523> 730 was awful
21:51:17 <HackEgo> 12) <fungot> GregorR-L: i bet only you can prevent forest fires. basically, you know.
21:51:51 <elliott> come on HackEgo
21:51:52 <HackEgo> 175) <oklopol> well i just ate some stuff and watched family guy <oklopol> and i own a piano <oklopol> and i'm not wearing socks
21:52:02 <HackEgo> 208) <quintopia> vorpal: a lot of people in AK fly <Vorpal> quintopia, well getting a pilot cert is a lot more complex than a driving license :P <quintopia> being an AK resident is a lot more complex than a driver's license too
21:52:14 <ais523> OK, all good so far
21:52:15 <HackEgo> 766) <kmc> aim hecker (n): when ur dronk and u pee so bad all over the toilet that ppl make fun of u <kmc> (corruption of "aim heckler")
21:52:16 <HackEgo> 653) <ais523> the parser would be even simpler if I didn't try to do type inference in it
21:52:25 <ais523> 653 was meant seriously, at least
21:52:40 <ais523> 766 I don't get
21:52:51 <elliott> 766 is there to mock some guy who came in the channel for one day
21:52:59 <elliott> and talked about how php was good
21:53:08 <elliott> so we spent the whole day making fun of them
21:53:11 <elliott> "that's the story of aim hecking"
21:53:36 <ais523> OK, the context is interesting
21:53:40 <elliott> (they had this website with an "AIM Hecker" which I think was meant to be "AOL Instant Messenger Hacker")
21:53:43 <elliott> (but instead it was "AIM Hecker")
21:53:50 <elliott> (is the joke dead yet)
21:53:51 <kmc> elliott: ur aim is hecked
21:54:02 <kmc> and the fact that you are still talking about whats his face is proof that he wins
21:54:05 <kmc> according to him
21:54:07 <kmc> 'wins'
21:54:22 <elliott> kmc: i hope i'm still talking about it in 10 years
21:54:28 <monqy> was there ever any doubt he won
21:54:29 <kmc> yes
21:54:33 <elliott> 653 isn't that good probably
21:54:34 <kmc> winners don't use php
21:54:35 <elliott> 208 also
21:54:39 <shachaf> elliott: btw help did you see what edwardk did in lens
21:54:42 <shachaf> "my fault"
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21:55:10 <shachaf> elliott: This is complicated enough that I can't tell whether it's valid or not.
21:55:21 <shachaf> By "valid" I mean "doesn't let the user write an invalid instance which segfaults".
21:55:23 <kmc> shachaf: problem = the one legitimately solved by unsafeCoerce
21:56:08 <shachaf> kmc: https://github.com/ekmett/lens/commit/7ec5e55c130093ad3f3428da12f866453d9f8412
21:56:23 <shachaf> We need something which is suitably lazy and polymorphic.
21:56:39 <elliott> `quote
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21:56:41 <shachaf> Such that you can use it both as a traversal and as a fold.
21:56:55 <HackEgo> 34) <oklopol> anyway, torture would be fun to experience, true <oklopol> should put that on my todo list
21:56:56 <shachaf> edwardk has since renamed EvilBazaar to BazaarT
21:57:23 <HackEgo> 320) <Cheery> when I command it to do couple useful operations it instead mutilates my cock.
21:57:26 <HackEgo> 618) <Pavitra> That was me being *nice*. I could have made the request by word of mouth to my My Little Pony toys and it would count.
21:57:30 <HackEgo> 256) <oklopol> zzo38: you missed the point. the point was way stupider than that.
21:57:33 <HackEgo> 857) <zzo38> Can you vote for just the green party or rainbow party instead of both? <kmc> nope, it is the same party <zzo38> That is the problem with political parties.
21:57:44 <elliott> `delquote 320
21:57:49 <HackEgo> ​*poof* <Cheery> when I command it to do couple useful operations it instead mutilates my cock.
21:59:41 <Phantom__Hoover> ooh
21:59:49 <Phantom__Hoover> farscape gets a new theme tune for season 3
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22:16:19 <HackEgo> 187) * pikhq sticks several thousand kg m^2/A s^3 through elliot <elliott> pikhq: I'm underage!
22:16:48 <HackEgo> 19) <bsmntbombdood> there is plenty of room to have two heads
22:16:49 <HackEgo> 726) <shachaf> elliott: Anyway, if you wrote a Haskell book, I would read it and possibly provide classical criticism. <shachaf> That is to say, non-constructive.
22:16:56 <HackEgo> 724) <itidus21> the possession of diamonds by the bourgeois is more about establishing their bourgeoisness more than wanting a malleable metal <itidus21> oops i forgot i said diamonds instead of gold
22:16:57 <HackEgo> 192) <elliott> oerjan: What, can girls aim their penises better?
22:17:14 <shachaf> imo 726? not that great
22:19:45 <kmc> oh iti
22:20:04 <kmc> 'oops i forgot i am wrong about everything'
22:20:32 <elliott> i'll let monqy decide b/c im lazy
22:20:38 <elliott> well
22:20:42 <elliott> 724 is classic
22:20:52 <shachaf> 726 is classical
22:20:53 <elliott> 19 can't be deleted for historic reasons
22:20:56 <elliott> `delquote 187
22:20:56 <shachaf> so it should be deleted
22:20:56 <elliott> RIP
22:21:00 <HackEgo> ​*poof* * pikhq sticks several thousand kg m^2/A s^3 through elliot <elliott> pikhq: I'm underage!
22:21:05 <elliott> `quote
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22:21:20 <HackEgo> 424) <oklofok> god created the natural numbers, the rationals were done by man and the work was finally completed (topologically) by satan himself
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22:21:48 <shachaf> 424 is good
22:21:56 <HackEgo> 32) <oklopol> i can get an erection out of a plank, you can quote me on that.
22:22:02 <HackEgo> 776) * elliott is back not for killing purposes but here to kill people.
22:22:03 <HackEgo> 745) <itidus21> to think that i could accidently catch the bus with the person who wrote "###b#ott#les#of#b#eer o#n t#he #w#all#, ###lovely ###[[Esme]]ralda ###o#n ###t#h#e #b#ee#r..."
22:22:07 <HackEgo> 615) <Phantom_Hoover> http://i.imgur.com/dosYw.png <Phantom_Hoover> WELCOME TO FUCKING STEELROMANCED
22:22:34 <elliott> now it's monqy's turn
22:22:37 <Phantom__Hoover> 615's just baffling if you don't know a fair bit of DF's format
22:22:41 <elliott> i wish 776 gave knowledge of its context to anyone who read it
22:23:00 <shachaf> context: "elliott = bad person?"
22:23:05 <kmc> `quote
22:23:08 <HackEgo> 840) <kmc> the other day I bought a recycling can from amazon <kmc> it came in a cardboard box <kmc> i took the can out of the box, broke down the box, and put it in the can <kmc> it was amazing
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22:23:17 <ion> ∴ bad person = elliott
22:23:28 <kmc> yeah that was the best
22:23:32 <shachaf> ion: Don't you know how quotes work?
22:23:42 <shachaf> You can't shuffle things around if they're inside quotes.
22:23:51 <shachaf> "invincibility to the press"
22:24:09 <ion> shachaf: “a is equal to b” implies “b is equal to a”!
22:24:16 <FreeFull> shachaf: yes but you can cut them off
22:24:28 <shachaf> ion: I don't know what those funny “” things are.
22:24:35 <FreeFull> "in(...) to the press"
22:24:35 <shachaf> But "a = b" doesn't imply "b = a".
22:24:41 <shachaf> It might be that a = b implies b = a.
22:24:47 <shachaf> But that's a totally different proposition!
22:24:49 <oerjan> > unwords . reverse . words $ "elliott = bad person"
22:24:51 <lambdabot> "person bad = elliott"
22:25:31 <ion> λ> over (iso words unwords) reverse "elliott = bad person"
22:25:33 <ion> "person bad = elliott"
22:25:43 <elliott> `quote
22:25:43 <elliott> `quote
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22:25:53 <monqy> hey im back was i supposed to make any decisions
22:25:57 <HackEgo> 365) <Phantom_Hoover> The eigenratio of reality has to be enormous, though.
22:26:07 <elliott> monqy: ye.
22:26:09 <elliott> but you let us down
22:26:27 <HackEgo> 245) <Gregor> I'm blond with blue (sort of) eyes, so I could totally stealth my way through the holocaust ... or some such logic :P
22:26:28 <HackEgo> 726) <fizzie> [...] and then you just shuffle the integral signs around a bit and hope no mathematicians notice.
22:26:31 <HackEgo> 635) <ais523> Just about all females often feel that exactly why all Hollywood stars common maintain its brightness as Tom in spite of frantic operate routine and large operate pressure from the skin. What do you think that they have got sufficient time to observe all attractiveness strategies and tips that his grandmother utilized to abide by?
22:26:34 <HackEgo> 582) <fungot> sadhu: it's been said that boole is the crowning jewel perched precariously upon the perfect peak of programmer prowess, casting its limitless limpid light over the loathesome lands of those who scuff and wallow in the dreary dust of digital depravity and unbounded wilful ignorance of the testament of our lord jesus christ into your life.
22:27:15 <oerjan> ...did ais523 just turn into fungot above
22:27:16 <fungot> oerjan: yeah and some funky symbol too) about how much you can abuse programs to get them in every area. if you're in something like bnf?
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22:27:39 <elliott> 245 isn't all that good
22:27:53 <kmc> elliott: it's funny because it's about the holocaust
22:28:04 <oerjan> Gregor: elliott wants to apply the final solution to 245
22:28:24 <elliott> kmc: prescient
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22:28:58 <elliott> `delquote 245
22:29:02 <HackEgo> ​*poof* <Gregor> I'm blond with blue (sort of) eyes, so I could totally stealth my way through the holocaust ... or some such logic :P
22:29:04 <elliott> `quote
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22:29:18 <HackEgo> 241) <ais523> OK, I give up, logging into Wikia is harder than writing a Firefox extension
22:29:27 <oerjan> we now have final proof elliott is hitler
22:29:43 <HackEgo> 698) <Phantom_Hoover> Incest, the enemy of graph theorists everywhere.
22:29:50 <HackEgo> 742) <fizzie> fungot: Feeling scrambled after all that? <fungot> fizzie: but it's much like new zealand, in my stone-age country, we still like you even if you're only using the new fnord
22:29:51 <HackEgo> 169) <cpressey> fizzie: I can never tell with OpenBSD! <cpressey> everything looks like an error anyway
22:29:55 <HackEgo> 62) <fungot> Oranjer: the taylor's series is also alternately fnord as follows ( i'm using the latex notation here): david ben gurion signed the compensation agreement with germany when there was considerable division over these issues, because these are speculations without " any historical basis".
22:30:04 <elliott> monqy: you get to choose
22:30:21 <olsner> ooh, looks like macgyver is building an airplane again
22:30:45 <shachaf> `quote
22:30:49 <HackEgo> 158) <oklopol> comex: what? <oklopol> *vorpal <oklopol> comex: hi, tab-complete completed c to comex instead of Vorpal, dunno why
22:31:43 <elliott> monqy: :(
22:32:15 <shachaf> `quote
22:32:15 <monqy> i finished reading the scrollback
22:32:18 <HackEgo> 304) <pikhq> o.O <pikhq> There's a birth defect which results in the formation of a cloaca. <Gregor> It's called "not being a mammal" :P
22:32:40 <kmc> that's classist
22:32:52 <elliott> kmc thats literally the worst joke made today
22:32:54 <elliott> please leave
22:32:57 <kmc> haha
22:32:58 <Phantom__Hoover> anywhere
22:32:59 <Phantom__Hoover> by anyone
22:33:00 <kmc> 8=====D
22:33:06 <monqy> kmc that joke is bad
22:33:10 <kmc> and i should feel bad?
22:33:24 <elliott> kmc i like you don't make me ashamed of your jokes
22:33:24 <monqy> maybe just a tiny bit embarrassed
22:33:31 <kmc> haha
22:33:40 <kmc> 8=====D
22:33:44 <kmc> ok done
22:33:50 <elliott> monqy: have you chosen yet
22:33:50 <monqy> `qote
22:33:52 <monqy> no
22:33:53 <kmc> `quote
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22:33:56 <elliott> : /
22:33:56 <HackEgo> 547) <itidus20> according to physics and maths can we theoretically have a box with infinite cookies inside?
22:34:00 <elliott> -
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22:34:13 <HackEgo> 587) <oerjan> i am sorry to disappoint you, but my musical taste is on the side abba, verdi, and celine dion. i know this may not be popular and that you would have preferred me to be a satanist.
22:34:28 <monqy> 587???
22:34:42 <monqy> oh im starting to "get it"
22:34:44 <monqy> but just starting
22:34:47 <FreeFull> Money money money, must be funny, in a rich man's world
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22:35:00 <elliott> maybe monqy has the same musical taste as oerjan
22:35:00 <HackEgo> 125) <fungot> ais523: elf corpses are not considered expensive health food. but the most expensive.
22:35:00 <HackEgo> 485) <zzo38> What is miff-muffered moof? <itidus20> that's a tough question
22:35:01 <shachaf> monqy monqy monqy, must be funqy
22:35:03 <HackEgo> 816) <olsner> when everyone else was busy going "ewwww, comic sans!" I was reading the text and learned everything
22:35:03 <HackEgo> 245) <fizzie> file:///home/fis/src/chainlance/tapestats.png -- yes, I think it's nice that way when the edge is always the opponent's flag.
22:35:10 <monqy> elliott: no i dont...........
22:35:22 <elliott> monqy: you cant prove anything
22:35:26 <oerjan> also platypi and echidnae have cloacae, iirc
22:35:26 <elliott> except
22:35:27 <elliott> in reverse
22:35:39 <Phantom__Hoover> fungot is a man after my own heart :')
22:35:41 <fungot> Phantom__Hoover: is it possible compare scheme to other languages is not a function definition is handled by 10 fnord. " is this better than haskell
22:35:44 <FreeFull> oerjan: And lay eggs
22:35:49 <kmc> `quote
22:35:53 <HackEgo> 146) <cpressey> < ais523> then running repeatedly until you get the right sequence of random numbers < ais523> and just completely ignoring the input <-- some people live their entire lives this way, i reckon
22:35:53 <shachaf> Phantom__Hoover: sexist?!?
22:35:56 <kmc> FreeFull: no really?
22:35:57 <FreeFull> And they don't have nipples, their skin secretes milk directly
22:35:59 <Phantom__Hoover> kmc, omg fungot is trolling by proxy
22:36:00 <fungot> Phantom__Hoover: also for most other languages do), i don't think that would help in this channel for example. :)
22:36:02 <kmc> FreeFull: please tell me more irrelevant facts
22:36:03 <elliott> guys
22:36:06 <elliott> we're trying to delete quotes here
22:36:13 <elliott> please shut up about anything other than that and grilling monqy
22:36:14 <elliott> thanks
22:36:17 <kmc> FreeFull: fungot is a bot
22:36:17 <FreeFull> kmc: Humans are dumb
22:36:18 <fungot> kmc: the excel hack is countered by a ( thunk, type) pair.
22:36:19 <elliott> grilling kmc is acceptable too
22:36:24 <kmc> FreeFull: IRC is a form of internet relay chat
22:36:26 <Phantom__Hoover> are monqy and kmc elves
22:36:28 <monqy> maybe 816
22:36:32 * kmc runs away
22:36:33 <Phantom__Hoover> because if so i am: cool with that
22:36:38 <FreeFull> kmc: Most IRC servers will respond to a help command
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22:36:45 <kmc> fungot: help
22:36:46 <fungot> kmc: there is an ansi standard." maybe it is easier that... well, uhm. no. ...do i want to
22:36:53 <elliott> i give up let's try again and hope we don't get any about monqy's musical tastes
22:36:54 <kmc> good thinking fungot
22:36:54 <elliott> `quote
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22:36:55 <fungot> kmc: which strings??? cool, where can i find dybvig's paper? ( what's l's equivalent of begin?
22:36:55 <elliott> `quote
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22:37:00 <shachaf> kmc: It's like boats in an ocean, right?
22:37:05 <HackEgo> 611) <Phantom_Hoover> You know what annoys me about Deep Space 9. <Phantom_Hoover> It wasn't in deep space. <Phantom_Hoover> It was orbiting Bajor.
22:37:06 <kmc> yessssss
22:37:38 <HackEgo> 376) <Gregor> You just went from "no sexualized ads" to "we have ads for dildos, but they're different for ads for Orangina" X-D
22:37:43 <HackEgo> 343) <Sgeo> Oracle's awesome
22:37:53 <HackEgo> 733) <itidus21> ok in other words, its a lot easier to reason about 2^43112609-1 apples by using the text "2^43112609-1" than it is to actually produce 2^43112609-1 apples
22:37:53 <HackEgo> 809) <zzo38> Is mathematics a lifeform? <itidus20> zzo38: i'm looking into something interesting(debatable) which might be up your alley(debatable). warioware diy ... being a proprietry game about making games i know it's not extremely relevant here(debatable), but it's <insert gibberish term> <zzo38> itidus20: I don't know.
22:37:58 <monqy> 343????
22:38:05 <shachaf> 343 is p. good
22:38:20 <FreeFull> `quote
22:38:21 <shachaf> but not good enough for us
22:38:23 <elliott> FreeFull
22:38:24 <elliott> stop
22:38:24 <HackEgo> 645) <ais523> also, why isn't monqy from Hexham? his name sounds like he should be
22:38:27 <shachaf> `delquote 343
22:38:28 <elliott> you're violating procedure!!
22:38:31 <HackEgo> ​*poof* <Sgeo> Oracle's awesome
22:38:32 <elliott> um
22:38:33 <elliott> i like 343
22:38:36 <FreeFull> elliott: What
22:38:38 <FreeFull> I only did it once
22:38:38 <elliott> it's there to commemorate that time sgeo said that
22:38:42 <shachaf> elliott: wrong
22:38:54 <elliott> fine
22:38:55 <elliott> `quote
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22:38:55 <elliott> `quote
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22:38:59 <monqy> but why did sgeo say it???
22:39:01 <Sgeo_> I have no idea what context I would possibly say that in.
22:39:04 <monqy> there so much left unanswered
22:39:07 <HackEgo> 813) <oklopol> i don't get how people are afraid of parachute jumping but they routinely drive a car in fucking traffic
22:39:09 <Phantom__Hoover> so since everyone's going off topic i'm just going to comment on the fact that farscape continues to wow me in the field of blatant s&m scenes
22:39:10 <elliott> actually i like it
22:39:11 <elliott> `revert
22:39:18 <HackEgo> Done.
22:39:19 <shachaf> `unrevert
22:39:27 <kmc> oklopol++
22:39:28 <Phantom__Hoover> `rerevert
22:39:35 <Sgeo_> Can the revert be reverted, Emacs-style?
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22:39:39 <HackEgo> 269) <fungot> Phantom_Hoover: mutation is often considerably harder for both humans and compilers can analyze it much more difficult' part that induces bloody vomit... huh....intriguing
22:39:54 <HackEgo> 663) <oerjan> wolfram armageddon, the genius overlord game
22:39:56 <HackEgo> 533) <elliott_> now that we've cleared that up let us hug fungot = <fungot> elliott_: let's not start that again."
22:39:57 <HackEgo> 616) <ais523> it's not a list of /all/ interesting esolangs, btw; otherwise you can take the first command from the first esolang, the second from the second, the third from the third, etc, then add 1 to all of them <ais523> and you get a new interesting esolang <ais523> diagonal principle…
22:40:19 <shachaf> imo 616 would be better without the third part
22:40:26 <kmc> that 809 is a true meeting of the minds
22:41:02 <monqy> are any of these quotes numbered correctly
22:41:08 <monqy> "it's hard to tell"
22:41:15 <elliott> le'ts just try again
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22:41:32 <HackEgo> 687) <Phantom_Hoover> Here in Scotland we have a rigorous and well-tested theory of brothels.
22:42:05 <HackEgo> 809) <zzo38> Is mathematics a lifeform? <itidus20> zzo38: i'm looking into something interesting(debatable) which might be up your alley(debatable). warioware diy ... being a proprietry game about making games i know it's not extremely relevant here(debatable), but it's <insert gibberish term> <zzo38> itidus20: I don't know.
22:42:07 <HackEgo> 62) <fungot> Oranjer: the taylor's series is also alternately fnord as follows ( i'm using the latex notation here): david ben gurion signed the compensation agreement with germany when there was considerable division over these issues, because these are speculations without " any historical basis".
22:42:14 <HackEgo> 764) <ais523> and then I spent much of the rest of the time trying to work out how to implement 3D Hashlife efficiently when at least one of the colors has free will
22:42:15 <HackEgo> 397) <oklopol> [...] only the hamster's nervous system was tortured. although probably torturing a large logical gate constitutes a horrible thing to do if it comes in a cute container.
22:43:08 <olsner> I don't like 809 anymore
22:43:31 <monqy> i doubt i'll ever not like 809
22:43:43 <olsner> I like 397 though
22:44:47 <elliott> monqy: have you decided
22:44:57 <monqy> no
22:45:22 <monqy> they're all "above the bar" but maybe some are only hanging by a chin?
22:45:27 <elliott> mm
22:45:31 <elliott> 62 doesn't seem that good
22:45:32 <elliott> for a fungot quotes
22:45:33 <fungot> elliott: in emacs you can select from. i think i get the tex sources. he never continued the web server
22:45:34 <elliott> quote
22:46:35 <elliott> `delquote 62
22:46:39 <HackEgo> ​*poof* <fungot> Oranjer: the taylor's series is also alternately fnord as follows ( i'm using the latex notation here): david ben gurion signed the compensation agreement with germany when there was considerable division over these issues, because these are speculations without " any historical basis".
22:46:41 <elliott> `quote
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22:46:56 <HackEgo> 532) <fungot> elliott_: it's a machine that looks like you!
22:47:19 <olsner> that's another fungot quote
22:47:20 <fungot> olsner: the resource may not be able to use it yet, but it's hardly userfriendly to install documentation with no obvious way
22:47:31 <HackEgo> 55) <Madelon> both of you, quit it with the f-bombs. <Madelon> kaelis: what's the matter? something censoring stuff you're interested in?
22:47:34 <HackEgo> 707) <NihilistDandy> Benchmarks are only a good measure of surprise
22:47:35 <HackEgo> 464) <fungot> Phantom_Hoover: it is a hate so pure and... pumpkin seeds?
22:47:36 <HackEgo> 565) <Gregor> Hulu's movie selection is like MST3K without the MST3K characters.
22:47:53 <monqy> whats with 55
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22:49:08 <elliott> i think the joke is
22:49:25 <monqy> it's not as good as that other joke
22:49:30 <elliott> which
22:50:06 <monqy> the one about censorship where the joke is the joke gets spoiled?? it's complicated
22:50:16 <elliott> hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
22:50:21 <elliott> you mean the one that goes "censorshi"
22:50:24 <elliott> or the other one that i forget
22:50:54 <monqy> the one where ais says something about something zzo said
22:51:22 <elliott> mmm
22:51:34 <elliott> 565 isn't that good
22:51:53 <monqy> have you seen hulu's movie selection
22:52:04 <shachaf> monqy: Is it like 565?
22:52:11 <shachaf> "ie not that good"
22:52:24 <monqy> maybe
22:52:26 <elliott> monqy: i haven't. should i
22:52:32 <elliott> hulu isn't really available in my country......
22:52:40 <shachaf> elliott: switch to a better country
22:52:46 <shachaf> elliott: your country is unamerican btw
22:53:00 <kmc> did you know, america is the only country with freedom
22:53:07 <kmc> it's really quite an advantage
22:53:36 <shachaf> kmc: well it's also the best country
22:53:40 <shachaf> which is an advantage too
22:53:43 <shachaf> "if u think about it"
22:53:52 <elliott> monqy: should i : (
22:54:08 <monqy> elliott: if you want to understand 565 it would help
22:54:13 <tswett> Sgeo_: Sine is not down.
22:54:20 <shachaf> sine is up
22:54:22 <shachaf> no, down
22:54:24 <shachaf> no, up
22:54:26 <shachaf> no, down
22:54:36 <Sgeo_> Was it down before?
22:54:39 <shachaf> "sine of the times"
22:54:42 <elliott> `quote
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22:54:48 <monqy> shachaf..............................
22:55:00 <HackEgo> 393) <Sgeo> Will anyone be irritated if I tend to disconnect and reconnect a lot? [...] <oerjan> we _almost_ have an established policy that bots will be banned it they do that. which means we might have to administer a turing test to sgeo, and that could get ugly.
22:55:01 <tswett> Sgeo_: looks like it hasn't been down in the past 24 hours.
22:55:34 <HackEgo> 413) * Sgeo is risking massive forest fires <Sgeo> The bacon is worth it
22:55:34 <HackEgo> 280) <olsner> django is named after a person? <olsner> thought it would be a giraffe or something
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22:55:38 <shachaf> monqy: what
22:55:38 <HackEgo> 520) <Phantom_Hoover> FFS, building a perpetual motion machine should not be this hard.
22:55:40 <HackEgo> 472) <fizzie> I suck at the gravitron, I have survived something like 15 seconds in it at most.
22:55:58 <elliott> 472 isn't very good
22:56:11 <monqy> `delquote 472
22:56:16 <HackEgo> ​*poof* <fizzie> I suck at the gravitron, I have survived something like 15 seconds in it at most.
22:56:20 <elliott> `quote
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22:56:35 <HackEgo> 528) <oerjan> theorem prover yada yada halting problem.
22:56:40 <HackEgo> 115) <Mathnerd314> Gregor-P: I don't think lambda calculus is powerful enough
22:56:51 <shachaf> uh oh
22:56:55 <shachaf> bad batch already
22:57:08 <elliott> both of those are good tho
22:57:17 <HackEgo> 769) <Taneb> may I use my phone says it's nick to clarify
22:57:17 <HackEgo> 721) * Phantom_Hoover moves 0.5 Phantom_Hoover into the Atlantic, and captures fizzie's upper body with 0.5 Phantom_Hoover. <fizzie> Glurk.
22:57:17 <shachaf> good FOR DELETION
22:57:20 <HackEgo> 502) <fizzie> That's the stupidest thing I've heard all morning. (Though I did wake up five minutes ago, so I haven't had a chance to hear very much.) <fizzie> The "Why are you still asleep? I told the cat to wake you up." comment does come pretty close, though.
22:57:21 <HackEgo> 747) <Sgeo_> Why does CL get called functional? <oerjan> it's sort of like how you call ancient greece democratic.
22:57:51 <monqy> 769?
22:57:55 <elliott> monqy: my positions: 502 is good, 528 is good, 115 is good, apathetic about 721, 769 is not very good
22:58:07 <elliott> `delquote 769
22:58:12 <HackEgo> ​*poof* <Taneb> may I use my phone says it's nick to clarify
22:58:17 <elliott> `quote
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22:58:27 <HackEgo> 88) <ais523> (still, whatever possessed anyone to invent the N-Gage?)
22:58:29 <HackEgo> 21) <oerjan> In an alternate universe, ehird has taste
22:58:51 <Sgeo_> Is there supposed to be a joke in 88?
22:58:53 <HackEgo> 42) <Deewiant> I spent the last minute or so killing myself repeatedly
22:58:53 <HackEgo> 307) <elliott> ais523: YOU WILL HAVE YOUR QUOTE SOON
22:58:56 <HackEgo> 610) <fizzie> If you jump a car from a ramp and hit the wall of a building, in midair, you tend to get ejected up and fly to the sky-ceiling, then slowly slide at that height to one corner of the world; then you land, make a complicated spinning-around thing for a while, and then explode. <fizzie> Also probably works in real life?
22:59:24 <elliott> 610 is good, 42 is good, 21 has historical value, I like 42 personally
22:59:28 <elliott> 88 is a bit lame
22:59:36 <Sgeo_> Unless "N-Gage" is some pseudoscientific spiritual mumbo-jumbo, I don't get it.
22:59:39 <elliott>
23:00:04 <elliott> i retract my position on 88
23:00:22 <Sgeo_> Oh, it's a cell phone gaming thing apparently
23:01:28 <elliott> `addquote <HackEgo> 88) <ais523> (still, whatever possessed anyone to invent the N-Gage?) [...] <Sgeo_> Is there supposed to be a joke in 88? <Sgeo_> Unless "N-Gage" is some pseudoscientific spiritual mumbo-jumbo, I don't get it. <Sgeo_> Oh, it's a cell phone gaming thing apparently
23:01:32 <HackEgo> 856) <HackEgo> 88) <ais523> (still, whatever possessed anyone to invent the N-Gage?) [...] <Sgeo_> Is there supposed to be a joke in 88? <Sgeo_> Unless "N-Gage" is some pseudoscientific spiritual mumbo-jumbo, I don't get it. <Sgeo_> Oh, it's a cell phone gaming thing apparently
23:01:33 <elliott> adding a quote is like deleting one
23:01:42 <elliott> `quote
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23:01:49 <Sgeo_> "N-Gage attempted to lure gamers away from the Game Boy Advance by including cellphone functionality. This was unsuccessful, partly because the buttons, designed for a phone, were not well-suited for gaming and when used as a phone the original N-Gage was described as resembling a "taco"."
23:01:53 <olsner> Sgeo_: iirc, that was long before "cell phone gaming thing" managed to become a thing
23:01:57 <HackEgo> 119) <AnMaster> oerjan, can you ever get any number higher than 3 at the start of "ordinary" [look-and-say sequences]? <ais523> it's not clear from the RFCs
23:02:26 <HackEgo> 415) <oklopol> you know that thing in the movies where they put a pillow on someone's face and try to suffocate them <oklopol> that doesn't work. <oklopol> we tried that with my ex once, but we just couldn't kill each other that way
23:02:31 <HackEgo> 799) <itidus21> you are like the linux torvalds of quiz engines
23:02:33 <HackEgo> 55) <Madelon> both of you, quit it with the f-bombs. <Madelon> kaelis: what's the matter? something censoring stuff you're interested in?
23:02:33 <HackEgo> 91) <AnMaster> fungot!*@* added to ignore list. <fungot> AnMaster: i'd find that a bit annoying to wait for an ack.
23:02:40 <elliott> hmm
23:03:29 <elliott> monqy: any input
23:03:34 <monqy> whats with 55 [again]
23:03:49 <shachaf> which one is 55
23:03:51 <shachaf> `quote 55
23:03:52 <Sgeo_> It's from Sine.
23:03:55 <olsner> unless it has context that makes it good, it's bad
23:03:55 <HackEgo> 55) <Madelon> both of you, quit it with the f-bombs. <Madelon> kaelis: what's the matter? something censoring stuff you're interested in?
23:04:11 <Sgeo_> I could ask in Sine about the context
23:04:13 <olsner> shachaf: it's the one about f-bombs and censoring
23:04:34 <shachaf> monqy: i prefer p-bombs personally
23:04:52 <Phantom_Hoover> i prefer l-bombs
23:05:18 <olsner> I like them pu-bombs and u-bombs
23:05:22 <shachaf> remember when monqy was all like
23:05:23 <shachaf> You smile, you flirt, you ask questions and listen patiently in a friendly, non-committal/unneedy sort of way. You let the conversation develop, sometimes helping it along. You laugh at the right jokes, you fire back witty (but not to witty) remarks, your eyes take on a extra little sparkle and then, it happens. The 'P' Bomb.
23:05:57 <Phantom_Hoover> wats the 'p' bomb
23:06:13 <monqy> did you miss our p-bomb discussion
23:06:19 <Phantom_Hoover> y
23:06:20 <Phantom_Hoover> yes
23:06:32 <shachaf> Phantom_Hoover: pastry
23:06:42 <elliott> `quote
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23:06:50 <Phantom_Hoover> ah
23:06:53 <shachaf> Phantom_Hoover: p bomb = cherry pastry with a cherry bomb
23:06:57 <HackEgo> 597) <Phantom__Hoover> Also you steal Berwick from us and then say you don't want it? <Ngevd> You stole it from us first!
23:07:21 <Sgeo_> I'm currently being told context for 55
23:07:25 <Phantom_Hoover> do tell
23:07:35 <HackEgo> 246) <elliott> lol @ closed character set standard <elliott> "What does this codepoint represent?" "Nobody knows."
23:07:37 <HackEgo> 789) <monqy> moral of the story with enough peer pressure nything is possible
23:07:38 <HackEgo> 152) <Phantom_Hoover> It's only been 2 months since anyone last made a commit! <alise> WRONG 8 WEEKS
23:07:39 <HackEgo> 822) <itidus21> world peace is for fascists
23:07:53 <shachaf> elliott: @ closed character set standard?
23:07:55 <shachaf> when did @ do that
23:08:25 <olsner> "What does this @ represent?" "Nobody knows."
23:08:48 <Sgeo_> 'Kaelis used to snap at Madelon sometimes whenever she got involved at all in conversations he was in.'
23:09:19 <olsner> that's ... not very convincing evidence
23:10:17 <FreeFull> @ is at
23:10:28 <elliott> kmc: you're right
23:10:34 <FreeFull> Or alternatively, a monkey
23:10:35 <shachaf> am i right
23:10:56 <Sgeo_> What were those things called. Franklin something. Had a keyboard and removable cartridge
23:11:54 <Phantom_Hoover> ...typewriter?
23:12:23 <shachaf> TypeWriterT
23:12:58 <elliott> `addquote <HackEgo> 55) <Madelon> both of you, quit it with the f-bombs. <Madelon> kaelis: what's the matter? something censoring stuff you're interested in? [...] <monqy> whats with 55 [again] <Sgeo_> It's from Sine. <Sgeo_> I could ask in Sine about the context [...] <Sgeo_> I'm currently being told context for 55 <Phantom_Hoover> do tell <Sgeo_> 'Kaelis used to snap at Madelon sometimes whenever she got involved at all in conversations h
23:12:58 <elliott> e was in.'
23:13:00 <elliott> fuck
23:13:05 <HackEgo> 857) <HackEgo> 55) <Madelon> both of you, quit it with the f-bombs. <Madelon> kaelis: what's the matter? something censoring stuff you're interested in? [...] <monqy> whats with 55 [again] <Sgeo_> It's from Sine. <Sgeo_> I could ask in Sine about the context [...] <Sgeo_> I'm currently being told context for 55 <Phantom_Hoover> do tell <Sgeo_> 'Kaelis used to snap at Madelon sometimes whenever she got involved at all in conversations h
23:13:10 <elliott> `delquote 857
23:13:13 <HackEgo> ​*poof* <HackEgo> 55) <Madelon> both of you, quit it with the f-bombs. <Madelon> kaelis: what's the matter? something censoring stuff you're interested in? [...] <monqy> whats with 55 [again] <Sgeo_> It's from Sine. <Sgeo_> I could ask in Sine about the context [...] <Sgeo_> I'm currently being told context for 55 <Phantom_Hoover> do tell <Sgeo_> 'Kaelis used to snap at Madelon sometimes whenever she got involved at all in conversations h
23:13:19 <Phantom_Hoover> meta
23:13:20 <Sgeo_> :/
23:13:35 <Sgeo_> https://www.google.com/search?q=Franklin+devices&rlz=1C1TSND_enUS401US401&aq=f&oq=Franklin+devices&aqs=chrome.0.57j60l2j0l3.5016&sugexp=chrome,mod=17&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#hl=en&tbo=d&rlz=1C1TSND_enUS401US401&sclient=psy-ab&q=franklin+spanish+english+translator&oq=Franklin+Spanish+English&gs_l=serp.3.0.0l2j0i30l2.54459.56839.1.58044.
23:13:35 <Sgeo_> Ly0&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.&fp=ff999713c9217bd7&bpcl=38897761&biw=1366&bih=667
23:13:42 <elliott> :/
23:13:43 <Sgeo_> ...wtf at all the garbage in the URL
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23:15:28 <Sgeo_> http://www.franklin.com/book-cards
23:16:19 <elliott> i've never understood a Sgeo_ link less
23:16:53 <Sgeo_> As a kid I had a device that accepted those cards
23:17:24 <pikhq_> ... Why would anyone *buy* one of those?
23:18:29 <Arc_Koen> is that like, a franklin the turtle usb drive?
23:18:30 <Phantom_Hoover> well let's think
23:18:44 <Phantom_Hoover> who would have supervised the things sgeo owned as a child
23:19:02 <Sgeo_> http://www.amazon.com/Franklin-Spanish-English-Dictionary-Bookman/dp/B000034D68 except that's a card, not the device itself. Wouldn't have had that card because the device was natively a Spanish/English dictionary
23:19:20 <Sgeo_> So that particular card would be unnecessary.
23:19:24 <elliott>
23:19:25 <Sgeo_> But if I wanted to do other things
23:19:29 <olsner> why would you have a spanish/english dictionary?
23:19:34 <Sgeo_> I have no idea.
23:19:41 <olsner> me neither!
23:20:03 <Phantom_Hoover> americans are dimly aware that there is a language other than english, and some of them even know it's called 'spanish'
23:20:27 <olsner> you're not thinking of "swedish" are you? because that's not even a language
23:20:39 <Phantom_Hoover> of course not, it's an obscenity
23:21:01 <Phantom_Hoover> please don't say it again
23:21:26 <olsner> I'm currently watching star wars
23:21:27 <Sgeo_> Found it!
23:21:28 <olsner> dubbed
23:21:32 <olsner> ... in swedish!
23:21:39 <Arc_Koen> irk
23:21:58 <Sgeo_> model ssa-840 but the one I found is the wrong book
23:22:39 <Sgeo_> It looks like http://www.iltech.org/Classifieds/DRSItemDetails.aspx?Id=1206
23:22:50 <Sgeo_> But different labels on the colored buttons
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23:23:08 <Sgeo_> And a tilde over the N button
23:23:57 <oerjan> jag har en dålig känsla om detta
23:24:34 <olsner> "dålig känsla" låter som direktöversatt engelska
23:25:11 <olsner> tror det är mer idiomatiskt att ha "onda aningar" om någonting
23:25:14 <oerjan> ...busted. although coincidentally, those were the only two words i couldn't think of myself...
23:25:25 <olsner> then again, who knows ... this swedish thing is dying out anyway
23:25:29 <olsner> (I hope)
23:26:22 <oerjan> also the idiomatic norwegian _would_ be "dårlig følelse"
23:26:40 <olsner> a foolish foaling
23:27:10 <oerjan> dårlig doesn't mean foolish in norwegian, just bad
23:27:26 <oerjan> although it obviously does come from dåre, meaning fool
23:27:52 <olsner> Obviously
23:27:57 <kmc> elliott: what am i right about?
23:28:23 <elliott> yes
23:28:45 <kmc> i'm right about yes
23:29:18 <elliott> yes
23:30:27 <elliott> `quote
23:30:27 <elliott> `quote
23:30:27 <elliott> `quote
23:30:28 <elliott> `quote
23:30:28 <elliott> `quote
23:30:40 <HackEgo> 425) <Taneb> Someone with that sort of grasp of logic shouldn't be allowed anything more computationally powerful than a plastic spoon
23:31:07 <Phantom_Hoover> oerjan, i learnt that off doctor who!!
23:31:13 <HackEgo> 258) <Phantom__Hoover> Gregor, yeah, but Purdue has poultry science facilities beyond the dreams of avarice.
23:31:16 <HackEgo> 7) <oerjan> what, you mean that wasn't your real name? <Warrigal> Gosh, I guess it is. I never realized that.
23:31:21 <HackEgo> 232) <Vorpal> !bfjoust test (-)*10000 <EgoBot> Score for Vorpal_test: 12.9 <Vorpal> yay
23:31:22 <HackEgo> 173) <pikhq> Give me a beaver and I'll put it to work.
23:31:35 * pikhq_ finds the non-Americans funny
23:32:22 <olsner> Phantom_Hoover: the "americans are dimly aware" thing?
23:32:48 <Phantom_Hoover> no
23:32:54 <Phantom_Hoover> darlig = bad
23:33:22 <olsner> doorly
23:33:45 <Phantom_Hoover> pikhq_, was that a lead-up or just a solitary statement
23:33:57 <elliott> monqy: imo 173
23:34:08 <monqy> hii iim back
23:34:08 <pikhq_> Phantom_Hoover: Solitary statement.
23:34:19 <pikhq_> "Lawl, you guys talking on Thanksgiving"
23:34:23 <Phantom_Hoover> is 173 a double entendre or something
23:34:25 <oerjan> Phantom_Hoover: learnt what?
23:34:28 <monqy> imo 173
23:34:33 <olsner> pikhq_: talking on what?
23:34:34 <Phantom_Hoover> oerjan, darlig = bad, jesus
23:34:43 <Phantom_Hoover> i said it like 10 lines ago!
23:35:06 <elliott> `delquote 173
23:35:10 <HackEgo> ​*poof* <pikhq> Give me a beaver and I'll put it to work.
23:35:29 <elliott> `quote
23:35:30 <elliott> `quote
23:35:30 <elliott> `quote
23:35:30 <elliott> `quote
23:35:31 <elliott> `quote
23:35:42 <Phantom_Hoover> pikhq_, wait, are you not meant to talk on thanksgiving
23:35:44 <HackEgo> 708) <Phantom_Hoover> I had a dream last night where I got hit by a van but the van had a brain uploader in it and I was uploaded and I angsted because I was stuck spending eternity with singularitarians?
23:35:49 <oerjan> Phantom_Hoover: i'm sorry dårlig doesn't mean jesus, what the heck made you think that?
23:35:55 <pikhq_> Phantom_Hoover: You're meant to be stuffed to the gills.
23:35:56 <olsner> meanwhile in europe, not a single thanks was given
23:36:05 <oerjan> (also i was slightly in backscroll)
23:36:09 <HackEgo> 357) <ais523> I think I managed something like a one-expression increment that was only a few hundred characters long
23:36:12 <HackEgo> 103) <pikhq> And... WTF is it doing. <pikhq> :( <Sgeo_> Is it sexing?
23:36:18 <HackEgo> 679) <zzo38> The book "Science Made Stupid" ends with a list of things that might happen in the future (some already have), one of them is a woman president. Some things in the list are reasonable but a few are just funny instead.
23:36:19 <HackEgo> 227) <ais523> gah, why does lose keep winning?
23:36:47 <Phantom_Hoover> pikhq_, ah, here we do that at christmas
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23:37:18 <pikhq_> Here we *also* do that at Christmas.
23:37:21 <oerjan> pikhq_: americans have gills? you learn something new every week!
23:37:50 <pikhq_> oerjan: Yeah, we're not actually human.
23:37:58 <oerjan> figures.
23:38:14 <oerjan> i guess that lovecraft story was true, then.
23:38:21 <Phantom_Hoover> pikhq_, otoh you haven't invented boxing day
23:38:24 <Phantom_Hoover> or so i hear
23:38:54 <pikhq_> Not at all.
23:42:13 <Phantom_Hoover> or kettles
23:45:08 <Phantom_Hoover> elliott have you started the dwarf fortress
23:45:19 <elliott> no i will in the next
23:45:20 <elliott> 30 minutes?
23:45:51 <Phantom_Hoover> btw get dfhack, it now makes the ingame interface waaaay better
23:46:25 <elliott> mmmmh
23:46:26 <elliott> howso
23:46:28 <Phantom_Hoover> it adds text search to the unit lists, an ingame version of dwarf therapist
23:46:33 <elliott> btw do you need to do something to unhack your raws to get our stuff compatible
23:46:38 <Phantom_Hoover> no
23:46:42 <elliott> are you sure
23:46:46 <Phantom_Hoover> region files have their own raws
23:46:49 <elliott> oh
23:46:49 <elliott> good
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23:47:14 <elliott> is there a screenshot of this in-game dt
23:47:51 <Phantom_Hoover> uh
23:48:06 <Sgeo_> There's an ingame version of dt?
23:48:09 <Phantom_Hoover> just imagine dt's spreadsheet interface, except in ansii
23:48:29 <Sgeo_> Is this part of DF proper, or part of dfhack?
23:48:32 <Phantom_Hoover> dfhack
23:48:35 <Sgeo_> Ah :/
23:48:55 <Phantom_Hoover> it's not quite a replacement for dt but it's a lot nicer to use if you just want to twiddle a few labours
23:52:24 <elliott> `quote
23:52:25 <elliott> `quote
23:52:25 <elliott> `quote
23:52:26 <elliott> `quote
23:52:26 <elliott> `quote
23:52:32 <FreeFull> .
23:52:35 <HackEgo> 400) <monqy> it was a wonderful dream <monqy> i died in it <monqy> that's how it started
23:52:38 <HackEgo> 265) * Received a CTCP VERSION from nyuszika7h * VERSION Microsoft IRC# 2011 64-bit (Windows 8 Beta, x64, 2GB RAM) <nyuszika7h> Gregor: Windows 8 Beta? o_O <Gregor> A small benefit of my brief time as an intern at MS.
23:52:51 <elliott> FreeFull: ,
23:53:00 <HackEgo> 523) <Phantom_Hoover> The fact that the elves will be happy with this will hopefully be counteracted by the fact that I plan to drop them into the magma cistern.
23:53:03 <HackEgo> 799) <Gregor> `log [o]klopol wasn't usually nude
23:53:04 <HackEgo> 7) <oerjan> what, you mean that wasn't your real name? <Warrigal> Gosh, I guess it is. I never realized that.
23:53:04 <FreeFull> ;
23:53:44 <olsner> `log [o]klopol wasn't usually nude
23:54:11 <olsner> hmm, is that supposed to do something?
23:54:15 <HackEgo> No output.
23:54:56 <oerjan> of course not, you cannot search for a blatantly false statement
23:57:43 <tswett> I think I'm going to make a major change to the way that I type. So major.
23:58:10 <elliott> what is it
23:58:38 <tswett> I see that my change is so drastic that you have decided to sarcastically point it out by asking a rhetorical question.
23:58:54 <olsner> are you going to start using a keyboard?
23:59:13 <Phantom_Hoover> i made a small change to my handwriting recently which has immensely improved my appreciation of it
23:59:27 <tswett> Nah, I started using a keyboard about three years ago. This is a much more major and drastic change.
23:59:42 <elliott> what did you use before three years ago
23:59:53 <tswett> A piano.
23:59:55 <tswett> `quote piano
23:59:58 <HackEgo> 173) <oklopol> well i just ate some stuff and watched family guy <oklopol> and i own a piano <oklopol> and i'm not wearing socks \ 438) <NihilistDandy> Non sequitur is my forte <NihilistDandy> On-topic discussion is my piano <Taneb> Bowls of sugary breakfast cereal is my mezzoforte <Taneb> Full fat milk is my pianissimo <Taneb> On which note, I'm hungry
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