00:19:07 -!- ARandomOWL has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 00:25:01 -!- azaq23 has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 00:27:03 -!- azaq23 has joined. 00:28:31 -!- epicmonkey has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 00:55:30 -!- hagb4rd has joined. 01:15:38 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: Good night). 01:36:56 -!- hagb4rd has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 01:58:30 -!- sebbu2 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 01:58:54 -!- sebbu has joined. 01:58:54 -!- sebbu has quit (Changing host). 01:58:54 -!- sebbu has joined. 02:02:09 -!- sebbu2 has joined. 02:05:33 -!- sebbu has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 02:08:42 -!- WeThePeople has quit (Quit: Leaving). 02:17:29 -!- sebbu has joined. 02:17:30 -!- sebbu has quit (Changing host). 02:17:30 -!- sebbu has joined. 02:20:08 -!- sebbu2 has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 02:41:50 -!- copumpkin has joined. 02:43:09 -!- hagb4rd has joined. 02:53:02 -!- kallisti has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 03:30:43 " The difficulty in transferring graphical images through the Internet without a resource such as a large Web page or a FTP site, and the fact that most maps already available are in postscript format (when few home users have postscript printers) means these minor rule change variants flourish." 03:30:54 I think that this article might be a little old 03:31:21 glad we all have postscript printers now. otherwise google maps would be so useless. 03:34:09 [The article is talking about Diplomacy variant maps] 03:36:43 its not only old, it didn't even make any sense back then 03:38:30 graphical images.. what is that .. 'through the internet' without a resource(?) as a 'large webspace' lol 03:39:04 and how could the format affect this difficulties? 03:39:25 I think the idea is that back then not many people had access to web space or FTP space 03:39:41 old articles about the internet are fun 03:40:09 I still have an old simcity 2000 strategy guide from 1994 talking about how to connect to services like compuserv to download scenarios off of ftp. and getting on usenet to talk with other players 03:40:49 sounds valid 03:41:00 -!- NihilistDandy has joined. 03:41:03 Does the Usenet group for Simcity 2000 still used, anyways? If so, then it may work. 03:41:15 cutting edge analysis 03:41:20 But you should use internet to download scenarios off of FTP, not Compuserv, by now. 03:42:25 http://webcenters.netscape.compuserve.com/menu/ 03:42:34 The NetScape logo is still in use 03:42:56 NetScape.com is owned by AOL 03:43:30 Tripod still exists 03:46:06 and goatse.cx is now a webmail provider 03:47:31 and john carmack is now building space ships 03:48:01 (which maybe is not surprising at all) 03:49:06 nice 03:50:02 and the google founders, Ross Perot, and James Cameron are starting an asteroid mining company 03:50:17 and in dead cities, djikstra lies dreaming 03:50:17 Ross Perot Jr. i mean 03:50:29 which if you think about it, is basically the setup for a james bond movie 03:50:39 eccentric billionaires develop technology to hurl asteroids at earth 03:50:42 kmc, and from that I learn that there's an outlook.com 03:50:51 Sgeo: goatse strikes again 03:51:13 the ass that launched a thousand clicks 03:51:38 meanwhile jerkcity is still going strong, just as good as it was in 1997 03:51:42 how many webcomics can say that 03:51:49 Superosity 03:52:05 Oh, Superosity's from 1999 03:52:15 "when Carmack was 14, he broke into a school to help a group of kids steal Apple II computers, but during the attempted break-in one of the kids set off the silent alarm. John was arrested, and sent for psychiatric evaluation (the report mentions 'no empathy for other human beings'). " 03:52:23 lol 03:52:39 a true doom murderhead if there ever was one :') 03:52:43 great.. i alway adored this guy 03:52:54 Freefall's from 1998 03:53:14 Freefall is still good 03:53:34 People question whether Superosity is any good, but Freefall is always awesome 03:53:43 oh, keven and kell 03:53:58 and sluggy freelance. of course. 03:53:59 * Sgeo hasn't read Keven and Kell 03:54:03 Or Sluggy Freelance 03:54:16 me neither, but they're the Old Ones. 03:54:17 Oh woah Keven and Kell started 1995 03:54:27 wow, i didn't know PhD dates from '97. 03:55:03 http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/WebcomicsLongRunners 03:55:35 -!- kmccchat has joined. 03:55:57 -!- kmccchat has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 03:56:31 -!- Anonymous has joined. 03:56:36 -!- Anonymous has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 03:57:08 Mezzacotta has been running for all of time, and then some. 03:57:31 -!- kmccchat has joined. 03:57:35 -!- kmccchat has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 03:57:44 this is me trying to join #esoteric from Comic Chat 03:58:17 That's esoteric as shit, kmc 03:58:36 I've played with Comic Chat before 03:59:01 it crashes quite a bit 03:59:01 Please disable the thing where it sends garbage to the channel. Although I haven't seen any garbage, so maybe you did. 03:59:15 i was kind of hoping it would send garbage to the channel 03:59:20 but i can't get that far 03:59:28 kmc: please don't disable the bit where it sends garbage 03:59:28 Well, you're here, aren't you? 03:59:31 I want to see the garbage 03:59:39 When I did it, it was on some VM emulating Windows 98 04:01:30 yeah i'm trying to use wine 04:13:26 "No Fourth Wall - the sheer number of strips make it impossible to say if fourth wall breaking happens constantly or not, but at least this strip is an example. And this." 04:13:31 (About Mezzacotta) 04:14:08 I don't see why one couldn't take a random sample and determine with a certain degree of confidence what percentage are fourth wall breaking etc. 04:16:00 we here at #tvtropescorrections will investigate your complaint 04:18:33 i had a question for tvtropes but i was too lazy to search and find the answer 04:18:37 which is 04:18:49 was Community the first sitcom to have a character who thinks they're all in a TV show and everyone else thinks he's crazy 04:19:03 it seems kinda likely that there is precedent, but i don't know of one 04:19:24 Is it possible to amplify the audio of a HDMI signal without decoding it, and without affecting any other part of the signal? 04:19:59 kmc, there's a webcomic that has a character that thinks he's not in a webcomic and everyone else thinks he's crazy. 04:20:29 -!- sebbu has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 04:20:55 -!- sebbu has joined. 04:20:56 -!- sebbu has quit (Changing host). 04:20:56 -!- sebbu has joined. 04:24:42 zzo38: iirc the audio data is transported on seperate threads.. the signal is specified by http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S/PDIF 04:25:06 giving a max. distance of about 10m 04:26:59 no that's not correct 04:27:10 it is similar zo spdif 04:27:24 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI#Extenders 04:28:17 technically it would be possible. what would be the goal of this amplification? 04:28:29 isn't it encrypted tho 04:30:52 sure you could use amplitude modulation to inject information as done in radios too 04:31:30 but thats not y asked did you zzo38? 04:36:35 I have a HDMI computer monitor with sound and want to be able to adjust the volume (this is not the computer monitor I am using here; my brother paid and it is being used for the downstairs TV) 04:38:42 HDMI is encrypted? To prevent an attack from whom? 04:38:52 Sgeo: the user 04:38:56 ..? 04:39:01 Is this DRM stuff? 04:39:03 Sgeo: the user might attack the content industry 04:40:26 So, I can't make a fully compatible HDMI device without a key? 04:41:08 Oh, according to Wikipedia, the key has been reverse engineered, I guess? 04:41:37 normally the volume is not controlled by the carrier signal but by a transistor at its receiver 04:41:50 I don't like the HDMI but some devices use it so I want to be able to make it connect multiple devices in one computer monitor, some which are Digi-RGB instead, and have it switch simply by acting like the cable is disconnected and reconnected, as well as adjust the volume from the same switching device, without decrypting anything. 04:41:52 Ok, according to Wikipedia, there is a master key and from that device keys can be made. That makes sense 04:42:07 So it's not like every company that wants to make an HDMI device gets the same key. That would be dumb. 04:46:17 are there provisions for distributing key revocation lists? 04:46:31 i know that blu-ray disks can revoke blu-ray keys but can they also revoke HDCP keys? 04:46:44 also is HDCP actually mandatory for HDMI? 04:46:55 zzo38: is Digi-RGB the thing you invented? 04:47:46 kmc: Yes. 04:48:08 http://www.adafruit.com/products/609 is a neat gadget 04:48:45 it can overlay video on HDCP-encrypted HDMI feeds 04:49:51 And any device I build which outputs or inputs video signals, other than adapters (such as what I described above), will be Digi-RGB, and NTSC composite; no HDMI. 04:49:53 and it does so without decrypting the source video 04:51:00 http://rdist.root.org/2011/09/13/the-magic-inside-bunnies-new-netv/ 04:51:18 kmc: OK, but I am not trying to do anything to the video signal; I am trying to adjust the volume. 04:51:23 i know zzo38 04:52:20 kmc: Huh. That sounds like an interesting hack. 04:54:25 Wikipedia says some dispalys will accept HDMI audio over DVI connector, but I have tried that and the one I have doesn't do audio if the HDMI port from the VCR/DVD is connected to the DVI port on the computer monitor. 05:00:25 There is also a royalty for HDMI. Therefore I want to intend to avoid it somehow, even if making passthrough devices. 05:03:58 -!- azaq23 has quit (Quit: Leaving.). 05:04:33 kmc, from Wikipedia, I guess that device keys are revocable but master key isn't (or maybe it is, doesn't really say, but that seems like it would be difficult to deal with), and HDCP might be optional? 05:04:43 * Sgeo sn't sure 05:05:06 New xkcd not up yet :( 05:05:36 It says it costs one cent more if you don't have HDCP, for some reason 05:12:43 one cent and one drop of blood 05:12:57 -!- kallisti has joined. 05:13:48 Sgeo: There's a new one now, at least 05:14:22 Deewiant, ty 05:15:28 SMBC is good 05:17:30 -!- sivoais has changed nick to msivoaisw. 05:18:15 xkcd is up and it sucks 05:19:05 -!- msivoaisw has changed nick to sivoais. 05:20:56 I kind of like it 05:23:31 well 05:23:31 ok 05:24:46 kmc, there may be a jerkcity Minecraft server 05:25:01 yeah there is 05:26:01 this particular xkcd strip sucks mainly because it's a worn-out joke told without any clever variation 05:26:14 ^ 05:26:28 so how's the goatsekcd 05:26:44 which criticism depends on other things you have seen 05:27:34 so it seems reasonable that some people would find it funny 05:27:58 goatkcd will be just a single goatse panel with the title "PROOF" 05:28:07 which is not that good as goatkcd goes 05:31:00 idk i never find goatkcd funny and i still laughed at that description 05:31:14 Conjecture: forall comic. lim t->\infty SNR_comic = 0 05:31:16 -!- copumpkin has quit (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.). 05:32:11 I made the mistake of joining a jerkcity-related IRC channel 05:32:34 was it the secret IRC channel deep in the bowels of the internet where jerkcity is created? 05:32:53 No. Although that was mentioned. 05:33:11 thank god for making #esoteric and making it hilarious 05:33:58 praise vectron 05:34:04 FOR VECTRON 05:34:13 by vectron's kindly claw! 05:34:19 ^ my favorite line 05:34:43 That hand gesture and his goofy inflection make it amazing 05:34:52 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icTrzUuWlHI 05:35:34 𝚪 ^ 05:40:10 what character is that 05:40:13 screen eats it :( 05:40:33 Looks a little like an r with the stem heavily bolded 05:40:35 capital gamma? 05:40:55 And the curvy part straight, come to look at it 05:41:09 Bike: Context 05:41:11 ah, it's kmc's nemesis, MATHEMATICAL BOLD CAPITAL GAMMA 05:41:40 That looks right 05:42:09 kmc: Γ better? 05:42:25 isn't that a box drawing character 05:42:31 ...no, it isn't. huh 05:48:03 ┌────────┐ 06:07:09 yes Windows 98 installer, please perform a bad blocks scan of your virtual emulated hard drive 06:07:19 you have no idea how completely i control your so-called reality 06:07:46 the god of this machine. windows 98 is naught but a helpless puppet before you 06:17:58 kmc: something about windows95tips 06:21:33 Is kmc acting under the control of the urge to use mscc 06:28:38 "Select the directory where you want to install Windows 98: [X] C:\WINDOWS [ ] Other directory" 06:28:41 "Do you want to get punched in the balls: [X] No [ ] Yes" 06:32:57 "Don't tick this box unless you're from the future" 06:34:46 so, i suppose "why on earth are you installing Windows 98" would be a dumb question 06:36:27 Because Comic Chat is the client of the future. Assuming time is cyclic, anyway. 06:36:46 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comic_Chat oh wow, that thing 06:36:51 was that the thing that invented Comic Sans? 06:37:20 i think that was just for word processing 06:37:33 «The typeface has been supplied with Microsoft Windows since the introduction of Windows 95, initially as a supplemental font in the Windows Plus Pack and later in Microsoft Comic Chat.» oh, so close 06:37:58 shit, they got Microsoft Research to make this? XD 06:38:01 AND WHAT WOULD YOU USE, ARIAL? 06:38:24 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/62/MsComicChat.png ...the art style looks like Frank. 06:38:51 Comic Chat was accepted to siggraph 06:38:55 Shit is legit man 06:38:58 comic sans was for microsoft bob 06:39:00 but it was too late 06:39:09 I kind of really want to use it, now. 06:39:13 holy shit, they actually tried to get it look like Frank 06:39:17 that is disturbing 06:39:19 i have a real problem with microsoft comic chat 06:39:29 it just looks like jerkcity to me now 06:39:44 so I just get really confused whenever I see a screenshot :( 06:39:48 admittedly this is not often a problem for me 06:39:54 have you read Frank 06:40:43 nope 06:40:55 you should, so that you can see kmc's Comic Chat journey as a hallucinatory, unending nightmare of spinning tops made of crushed souls 06:41:04 Bike: apparently by "tried to get it to look like" you mean "got the creator of that to make it" 06:41:16 by which I mean "Woodring illustrated Microsoft's Comic Chat program" [1] 06:41:19 == References == 06:41:22 1. an uncited statement on Wikipedia 06:41:27 well i was just going off of "All of the comic characters and backgrounds were initially created by comic artist Jim Woodring. " 06:41:33 wait 06:41:51 wow i uh, i read that totally wrong. i am impressed with this level of failure. 06:42:13 anyway the point is that Woodring is literally insane. 06:42:20 Hahaha. I love that citation. 06:43:06 "Does that have, like, a bibtex entry ot something" 06:43:27 \TrustMe 06:43:44 so I just get really confused whenever I see a screenshot 06:43:45 yes 06:43:50 "why aren't they all talking about gay cocks" 06:44:35 how likely is it that this guy's art is most well-known through jerkcity 06:44:38 I guess he looks a bit too famous for that 06:44:46 jerkcity did a woodring thing? 06:45:03 woodring did the art for comic chat 06:45:07 jerkcity is rendered in comic chat 06:45:14 whoa man. 06:45:16 "rendered" 06:45:30 it is! 06:45:33 they have perl scripts and everything 06:45:37 but, as far as i know woodring is what you call a "cult hit", so a sufficiently popular webcomic probably has more readers 06:46:27 oh fuck it /is/ 06:46:47 not sure it counts as "popular" 06:47:07 http://www.jerkcity.com/jerkcity3274.gif is this autogenerated? 06:47:12 or arguably "webcomic" 06:47:32 "IF I WERE HTML I'D BE &" 06:47:33 I've read it, and am an obvious slave to pop culture. Ergo, it must be popular. QED. 06:47:36 so my understanding of how jerkcity is made is 06:48:05 there's a private IRC channel where a few people write obscene garbage whenever they want to blow off steam 06:48:22 ok that sounds plausible 06:48:36 some scripts chop up the logs of that channel and replay it through a few IRC bots 06:48:47 and gets a screenshot of comic chat in that room 06:48:59 i think it is partially but not fully automated 06:49:14 that's really appropriate for woodring 06:49:22 i don't know if they automated the process to draw red 'X'es over deuce's eyes for several months after they got poke]d out 06:49:23 in his old comics all the dialogue was just cursing 06:49:54 i'm also not sure if the non-standard comic chat backgrounds (e.g. men's room urinals) are customizations to comic chat or are added in postproduction 06:50:02 "postproduction" 06:50:04 pretty sure it did not ship with a men's room urinals theme 06:50:22 server cluster dedicated to the hundred-core high definition rendering of jerkcity 06:50:26 him im back but is this about jerkcity 06:50:30 ah yes <:] 06:50:42 monqy: it was about kmc trying to install windows 98 in a vm for microsoft comic chat 06:50:48 trying and suceeding! 06:50:49 then it turned into being about jerkcity 06:50:50 noice 06:50:59 "Getting ready to run Windows for the first time." 06:51:07 im not ready 06:51:13 Wait, did kmc decide to install Windows 98 because of me? 06:51:22 your claim to fame 06:51:31 twice i've tried to run comic chat in wine, with varying degrees of unsuccess 06:51:32 i also managed to download "Windows NT 4.0 Terminal Services Edition.iso.7z" while i'm at it 06:51:36 so i have that to look forward to 06:51:39 so is the end goal here a fungot-based webcomic 06:51:40 Bike: i. from the east. the low antarctic sun of midnight poured its hazy reddish rays over the white snow, bluish ice and water lanes, and black, fnord, 06:51:51 thank you for your input 06:51:51 i'm pretty sure i already had a win98 VM for this purpose but can't find it 06:51:54 i wonder if they specially configure their irc clients to rewrite "foo: bar" as "t foo bar" 06:51:57 Too existentialist, fungot 06:51:58 NihilistDandy: i now advanced toward the wall at my left, where it was of basalt, where a fanatic fnord a dire future from visions he has seen. 06:52:04 or whether they get the scripts to do it or whether they actually type it out every time 06:52:08 mysterys of the universe 06:52:11 t fungot gay cocks 06:52:12 kmc: " indirectly," he whispered. " it wouldnt do not to answer it anyway, and it leaves you altogether. you have dreamed too well, o wise fnord, for all he could to restore the boy to normal poise. willett was the most phenomenal child scholar i have ever known; the rats they can never fnord the rats, living or spectral, had not the butler spoken of queer noises? 06:52:23 queer noises indeed 06:52:50 "elliott!" fungot ejaculated. 06:52:51 NihilistDandy: hill by so elderly a man, gnawing at the head of a steep flight of steps from the square was visibly padlocked. the path from the gate to those regions. the yellowed country records containing her testimony and that of only thirty million years old. 06:53:45 maybe you could just have so many layers of indirection that the product loses all humanity 06:53:53 feed spam emails, warped by a botnet, into jerkcity irc 06:54:35 Bike: http://www.mezzacotta.net/ 06:54:38 except more profane 06:54:58 look the cursing is an integral component in this 06:55:16 Since that outputs SVG, it should be possible to read the text without OCR, but I wonder if there's a given API for reading the text of a comic 06:55:26 I am not sure whether mezzacotta or jerkcity is more uneven in terms of funny 06:55:50 nice adblock blocks mezzacotta's fake ads 06:55:53 jerkcity is extremely consistent 06:55:53 let's just say they're the same in some principle 06:56:25 the comic from the day i was born sucks, but includes "unthinkable void", so i guess that's ok. 06:56:42 kmc: hobgoblin of little minds 06:56:45 that reminds me has anyone figured out the boole mystery 06:56:52 Boole mystery? 06:56:56 elliott: Use L'Hôpital's Rule and find out if Mezzacotta tends toward funny or unfunny, no? 06:56:56 yes 06:56:59 "If the progress indicator stops for a long time and there is no disk activity, please restart your computer." 06:57:06 yes, it turns out to originally have been posted by jerkcity 06:57:15 monqy: what is the boole mystery 06:57:32 that quote about BOOLE from a few days ago where you got it from like three layers of irc quotes 06:57:33 hmmmm the mezzacotta comic from my dob isn't very good 06:57:40 elliott: origin of boole wisdom 06:57:41 there is no jerkcity comic from my dob because it did not exist 06:57:46 monqy: ahhhh yes 06:57:52 oh i want to play that cool ass hovercraft game from the windows 95 cd as well 06:57:59 http://forums.creativecow.net/thread/19/871261 06:58:02 ? 06:58:18 yes you;ve solved it 06:58:26 @quote boole 06:58:26 Berengal says: 'Bobby Boolean felt horrible. What did he ever do to the other values? He was just a simple bit, a simple answer to a simple question! Suddenly he felt his insides churn; he felt an 06:58:26 exception coming on! Oh no! What should he do, now that he was outside of IO?' 06:58:32 um. 06:58:40 @quote boole 06:58:40 Berengal says: 'Bobby Boolean felt horrible. What did he ever do to the other values? He was just a simple bit, a simple answer to a simple question! Suddenly he felt his insides churn; he felt an 06:58:40 exception coming on! Oh no! What should he do, now that he was outside of IO?' 06:58:43 fine. 06:58:51 `quote boole 06:58:52 he /threw/ up? 06:58:56 563) sadhu: it's been said that boole is the crowning jewel perched precariously upon the perfect peak of programmer prowess, casting its limitless limpid light over the loathesome lands of those who scuff and wallow in the dreary dust of digital depravity and unbounded wilful ignorance of the testament of our lord jesus christ into your l 06:59:02 @quote perched precariously 06:59:02 No quotes for this person. Are you on drugs? 06:59:04 @quote perched.*precariously 06:59:05 No quotes match. I feel much better now. 06:59:08 that, sgeo. 06:59:09 oh 06:59:11 it prolly got lost 06:59:12 the fungot ver. is missing caps and it cuts off 06:59:13 monqy: in another moment the fnord vanished, and he fancied that the manner of an adept, to endure the eon long flight through fathomless abysses. he knew that in this climate such a thing may be like. dholes are known only by dim rumour, from the nightmare caverns of tartarus. 06:59:17 because lambdabot's repetition was ages ago 06:59:20 and lambdabot likes to lose data 06:59:22 rip 06:59:26 %style 06:59:28 ^style 06:59:29 Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft* nethack pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube 06:59:31 this is a good style 06:59:38 Fiora: boo etc. 06:59:50 I guess he just 06:59:51 couldn't handle it 06:59:55 fuck off 06:59:59 ;- 07:00:00 ;-; 07:00:20 ? 07:00:22 http://www.mezzacotta.net/archive.php?date=1985-02-17 mezzacotta seems pretty evenly unfunny. 07:00:40 i can't tell whether my dob mezzacotta is brilliant or awful 07:00:45 i think that means it's art 07:00:46 fortunately he was over the toilet, so that when he threw it, it was -caught- not long after 07:00:59 I'd like to link to my dob mezzacotta, but I don't really want to reveal my dob 07:01:04 Sgeo: anyway, so that quote about preciarious perching is probably from #scheme, but lambdabot got it from a bot which was quoting a bot quoting a bot etc. and nobody here knows where it's from 07:01:11 finally, after all that, he felt better 07:01:25 Bike: http://www.mezzacotta.net/bestbakes.php has some ~crowdsourced~ good mezzacottas 07:01:34 http://www.mezzacotta.net/archive.php?year=1996&epoch=ad&month=01&day=28 here's mine 07:01:51 http://www.mezzacotta.net/archive.php?year=1989&epoch=ad&month=05&day=01 07:02:10 This describes my entire life: http://www.mezzacotta.net/archive.php?year=1989&epoch=ad&month=09&day=14 07:02:27 These suck. You all suck. I hate everybody. I hate mezzacotta. I hate toilets. 07:02:48 this is a great way to assemble 07:02:52 my list of birthdays 07:02:57 s/ \n/\n/ 07:03:05 er 07:03:06 s/fix that/ 07:03:15 http://www.mezzacotta.net/archive.php?date=-1961-06-11 this one is good 07:03:15 Is monqy actually a teenager or is he being a horrible untruthful jerk? 07:03:30 Bike: depends on what you mean by teenage 07:03:35 but yes i am 07:03:40 monqy makes me feel old 07:03:44 i'm more used to making other people feel old 07:04:10 Bike: sorry for the puns. I kind of felt like I needed to unwind 07:04:17 shut 07:04:18 up 07:04:24 Bike, you ok? 07:04:45 * Fiora ruffles Bike's hair 07:05:04 life is an unceasing torment. i ran to the store and it was closed and they didn't have any twinkies. NOT EVEN ANY SUGAR. A raindrop hit me in the nose and my eustachian canal filled with fluid, agonizing fluid 07:06:16 http://www.mezzacotta.net/archive.php?date=1995-08-22 my birthday mezzacotta since i feel left out 07:06:19 "it's not very good" 07:06:31 Hm, what's iGoogle? 07:06:56 Whatever it is, it was mentioned in the same sentence as Comic Chat, Woodring's illustrations are available for it, and kmc's hilarious time capsule installation probably isn't necessary for it. 07:06:59 "iGoogle will not be available after November 1, 2013." 07:07:00 hope this helps 07:07:23 no! i'll have to install a windows 8 emulator ten years from now 07:07:37 I think iGoogle is a website 07:07:38 well it's also a website 07:07:41 so you'll have to install a time machine also 07:08:01 ~OS X already has Time Machine~ 07:08:20 ok, so i'll install an osx virt on my windows 8 capsule. foolproof. 07:08:22 hi 07:08:36 Alcohol 120% With Crack 07:09:20 Perfect 07:12:36 Don't use alcohol with crack, kids 07:15:34 "Mr. Spock succumbs to a powerful mating urge and nearly kills Captain Kirk." 07:19:18 i have rebooted at least 3 times in this install 07:19:25 hmm. 07:20:00 wait, so are you using your 98 install to read star trek too? 07:20:07 no 07:20:15 :( 07:21:24 kmc: go fullscreen and live inside windows 98 for a few days IMO 07:21:30 * elliott used Windows 95 in a fullscreen VM for about a week once 07:21:51 is that like some kind of monastic challenge 07:21:56 Call it an art installation 07:22:20 Bike: it was actually interesting 07:22:32 how so? 07:22:52 well, i suppose you'd learn about a lot of software incompatibilities, for a boring start 07:22:55 You can broadcast it, but I don't know if Windows 98 can do screen capture 07:23:01 well it's interesting in that windows 95 basically invented the iteration of the windowed GUI that people are still using 07:23:04 or at least were until recently 07:23:16 and it's interesting to see what it does differently and how it's so much worse in a bunch of ways but also a bit better in some others 07:23:30 and also you get to learn that some software is actually, like, still released for windows 95 07:23:44 Jafet: presumably if it's running in a vm you can manage it 07:23:48 at the time you could run recent releases of at least two browsers modern enough to browse pretty much any site on windows 95 07:24:03 and it's kind of crazy that that presumably actually gets tested 07:24:06 which browsers...? 07:24:19 well, i guess it's like how half of china is still using ie4 or w/e, huh 07:24:19 Bike: seamonkey and opera 07:24:19 Opera probably 07:24:30 I think Opera still supports 95 07:24:55 when did microsoft stop supporting 95? 07:25:00 I think Opera 9 does and 10 doesn't? 07:25:14 Bike: 2001 07:25:48 Opera 12 (!) does not support Windows 95 07:26:01 The fact that it's on 12 now makes me tempted to try it again 07:26:13 hm, i like the idea of you doing this when you were six, so i'm gonna go with that in spite of reason 07:26:27 Bike: this was like uh 2009? 2010? 07:26:31 shit I can't tell the years from each other 07:26:49 also what kind of VM could run 95 in 2001 07:27:15 what kind of six year old could run 95 in a VM in 2001 07:27:25 i ran windows in vmware in 2002 - 2003 07:27:27 worked all right 07:28:41 kmc were you six years old also why am i channeling monqy 07:28:58 -!- NihilistDandy has quit (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com). 07:29:21 Let us now have a moment of silence, to commemorate the age before VT-x 07:29:26