< 1356912229 419711 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@fluttershy.pl QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net < 1356912272 615210 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, monqy Fiora Phantom_Hoover Whatever-Taneb-is-being-today < 1356912273 827077 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :UPDATE < 1356912292 740680 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do not want to think about my backlog any more < 1356913037 718966 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.211.80 JOIN :#esoteric < 1356913045 605157 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.211.80 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: how did the candles thing work? < 1356913120 495965 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"According to some mathematical theorem, 7 is a large enough n to get a perfect shuffle." < 1356913134 477304 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :" Shuffling simulates an actual shuffle: the list is split into halves which are merged back together by repeatedly pulling the top card off one of the halves, randomly selecting one half or the other" < 1356913208 918733 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: Candles? Do you mean in the Dungeons&Dragons game? I am almost finished recording it and then you can read how it work. < 1356913220 298820 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.211.80 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes and okay < 1356913248 438650 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.211.80 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You said "It is a little bit like a game of chess." which interested me < 1356913294 581350 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What I mean is that a few of the kind of tactics involved in chess have similar things in this game. < 1356913412 871744 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.211.80 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like when you castle your level 20 Fighter with a stone golem? :o) < 1356913483 8218 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, but that isn't precisely what I was thinking of; read my recordings to see more specifically what it is in this case. < 1356913515 308512 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.211.80 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::o) means joke :-P < 1356913531 858798 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1356913543 973578 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK :o) < 1356913602 218429 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.211.80 PRIVMSG #esoteric :where are your recordings? < 1356913632 466903 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://zzo38computer.org/dnd/recording/level20.tex < 1356913711 877921 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.211.80 PRIVMSG #esoteric : I think anticipation2 may be the first successful program that intentionally sets its flag to zero, and knows it's intentionally setting its flag to zero when it does so < 1356913712 106012 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.211.80 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that is how most people use the word "intentionally" :-P < 1356913717 546144 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.211.80 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: not on gopher?? < 1356913783 908027 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a different meaning that ais523 intentionally stumbled upon < 1356913813 937102 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Currently it is not on gopher but I may fix that. < 1356913831 348106 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, that file alone is not sufficient because if you want to print it you need dungeonsrecording.tex as well. < 1356913866 625846 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.211.80 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am just reading the text anyway < 1356913880 165769 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.211.80 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a Tristan to go with Isolde? :o) < 1356913896 592041 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: No. < 1356913968 865092 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.211.80 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hopping forward is an interesting tactic, although risky if the enemy manages to identify what power you just used < 1356913980 827978 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.211.80 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(now they have a minute to prepare :-o) < 1356913993 588247 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes I know, it can be risky < 1356914048 388492 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.211.80 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did you anticipate where the candles were to go? Was there a diagram drawn on the floor? < 1356914076 276683 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No; I did not manage to anticipate it. That was Isolde, not me (Kjugobe), anyways. < 1356914143 967092 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders how zzo38 pronounces the "Kj"
< 1356914164 755578 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: By itself it isn't, but with "Kju" it can be pronounced. < 1356914186 780793 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.211.80 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, well, how did Isolde anticipate it then :-P < 1356914207 650675 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: Badly. < 1356914208 573815 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.211.80 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: first name "Iuckqlwviv" < 1356914217 687938 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1356914224 977340 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.211.80 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you need mouth-tentacles to pronounce it correctly < 1356914238 431003 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or to be granny weatherwax < 1356914239 558397 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.211.80 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(he is an illithid) < 1356914251 404890 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, maybe it is difficult to pronounce without < 1356914329 927169 :nortti!~juhani@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: pronounced witjout mouth-tentacles < 1356914330 534122 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just that kjugobe is _very_ simply to pronounce for a norwegian with norwegian spelling rules :) < 1356914342 837422 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*simple < 1356914350 834086 :nortti!~juhani@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :also for finnish < 1356914385 307912 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.211.80 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Iuckqlwviv might be easy to pronounce if you are from Hungary :o) < 1356914388 511364 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: O, I don't know Norwegian and Finnish spelling rules! Maybe, if you are Norwegian you can pronounce it that way. Otherwise, I will pronounce my way. < 1356914411 423446 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, not hungary. czechia or georgia maybe. < 1356914432 672027 :nortti!~juhani@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :finnish spelling rule is pretty much: pronounce it as it was IPA < 1356914543 783803 :nortti!~juhani@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :only exception I can think of is ŋ being written as ng < 1356914585 287222 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: nk maybe? < 1356914602 736429 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(those tend to go together in many languages) < 1356914646 613214 :nortti!~juhani@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1356914667 433910 :nortti!~juhani@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :short ŋ was nk ans long ŋ was ng < 1356914678 189339 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1356914694 53856 :nortti!~juhani@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1356914713 568390 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nk = ŋk is what i meant, but maybe finnish doesn't do that < 1356914730 329243 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I have it on gopher named dnd/level20.tex < 1356914730 897501 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i don't think ä and ö are the ipa forms :) < 1356914760 770965 :nortti!~juhani@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. forgot that < 1356914834 425401 :greyooze!~GK@82.132.211.72 JOIN :#esoteric < 1356914872 637807 :nortti!~juhani@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ä ia æ and ö is ə, I think < 1356914877 345111 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if you look closely there are probably other details. e.g. is a pronounced as ipa a or ipa ɑ < 1356914886 840453 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.211.80 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1356914949 630936 :nortti!~juhani@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think a < 1356914989 761437 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikipedia says ɑ < 1356915031 48453 :nortti!~juhani@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is a pronoumced then? < 1356915155 830446 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :further back. i believe the swedish short a is like that < 1356915158 625334 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have typed the last few paragraphs now; where we are in the card playing room. < 1356915172 579731 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually I missed one. < 1356915204 746652 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1356915217 667003 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, now I am done. < 1356915227 972793 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not further back, it's _middle_ < 1356915247 602973 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and very low < 1356915343 415050 :nortti!~juhani@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. I never thought about those two as different letters (?) < 1356915365 678800 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :phonemes < 1356915406 969050 :nortti!~juhani@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :finnish spelling is derived from swediah, german and latin < 1356915414 972621 :nortti!~juhani@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :*swedish < 1356915458 166738 :greyknigget!~GK@dab-bhx1-h-1-5.dab.02.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1356915475 274154 :greyknigget!~GK@dab-bhx1-h-1-5.dab.02.net NICK :GreyKnight < 1356915503 448355 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The phonemic contrast between front /a/ and back /ɑ/ is only partially maintained in Standard French, leading some researchers to reject the idea of two distinct phonemes.[11] However, the distinction is still clearly maintained in other dialects, such as that of Quebec." < 1356915516 516846 :greyooze!~GK@82.132.211.72 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1356915563 551458 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess those two vowels tend to get merged and split a lot as languages evolve < 1356915598 226092 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :norwegian has only ɑ < 1356915861 379524 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How I mean tactics of similar to chess game, is such as: confusion, repairing weaknesses, zwischenzug, counter, conservation of resources, and so on. < 1356915871 591527 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently swedish a is either IPA ä or ɑ < 1356915919 112796 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx1-h-1-5.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what exactly happened at the end there with the candles anyway < 1356915942 469704 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx1-h-1-5.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it might be /pyrotechnics/ at first but that only creates light or smoke, not actual fire < 1356915954 759118 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx1-h-1-5.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe something similar or a modification of it < 1356915963 886905 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-41-54.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1356915997 394660 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: I did finish typing what happened so far, by now; you can reread it. Yes I know it is not pyrotechnics; I thought of the same thing as you, there. I am unsure exactly what it is, but I know it is much bigger fire; and I do have some plans to defend against it. < 1356915999 250601 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: you dare to tell on 31 dec that pyrotechnics doesn't create fire? :P < 1356916018 134240 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure there will be plenty of firefighters to disagree with you < 1356916043 689455 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: They mean the spell called "pyrotechnics", which creates light, not fire. < 1356916058 629158 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT YOU TO THINK < 1356916106 786802 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes I think that is what they want you to think (whether or not it is correct). < 1356916229 135368 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx1-h-1-5.dab.02.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1356916351 810984 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My defense is partly inspired by Soltis's book "The Art of Defense in Chess". < 1356916355 190634 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: i'm not sure if anyone answered you, but 3-SAT is NP because any logic circuit can be evaluated in time linear in the number of logic operations. < 1356916376 916079 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Gregor has yet to install it. elliott objects to its installation. < 1356916408 403366 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx1-h-9-6.dab.02.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1356916484 1467 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wta. < 1356916484 448944 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: install what? < 1356916538 200368 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't recall elliott being against the principle of the new scoring... < 1356916549 762918 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx1-h-9-6.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: so what is the plan for your Raspberry Pi? < 1356916553 825472 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1356916560 39883 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :torrenting things basically < 1356916582 95350 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx1-h-9-6.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was hoping for something marginally more esoteric. Are you using a befunge torrent client at least?? < 1356916595 61886 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: see the bfjoust talk page and the logs for the most recent day i posted to it < 1356916604 917751 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1356916618 574994 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :(chan logs, not wiki history) < 1356916625 345466 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps an esolang based on torrenting? < 1356916686 911693 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx1-h-9-6.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :some sort of distributed computation? < 1356916701 66790 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: man, when did you stop being really annoying < 1356916703 691065 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had an esolang bunny attack me the other night < 1356916730 742749 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a language based on algebra? where the only command is "solve this equation"? < 1356916741 739997 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fractran doesn't really count < 1356916758 931920 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is that thing with diophantine equations < 1356916759 722161 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: chaitin wrote a lisp to diophantine equation compiler once, apparently. < 1356916774 74778 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: sounds awesome < 1356916847 328229 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey guys does anyone know of turing-equivalent graph colouring problems? < 1356916895 626151 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :graph-coloring doesnt seem turing-complete < 1356916906 540344 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: why not? < 1356916908 228519 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you are talking infinite graphs? < 1356916914 346089 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course < 1356917055 559050 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx1-h-9-6.dab.02.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1356917141 898786 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx1-h-1-5.dab.02.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1356917146 516306 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx1-h-1-5.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION shoots a firework at oerjan -----==>
< 1356917203 812264 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro, well the context was heraldry < 1356917213 169243 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so infinite graphs would require... some thought < 1356917300 645898 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx1-h-1-5.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It takes the compiler only a few minutes to convert the 300-line LISP interpreter into a 200-page 17,000-variable universal exponential Diophantine equation. The resulting equation is a little large" < 1356917332 351329 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the maxwell's equations of programming :') < 1356917344 856373 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx1-h-1-5.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chaitin's conception of "a little large" is similar to ais523's conception of "intentionally" :-) < 1356917412 103034 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx1-h-1-5.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this little adventure takes place in Algorithmic Information Theory BTW < 1356917427 500851 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything chaitin does takes place there < 1356917512 349267 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx1-h-1-5.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chapter LXVII: Making Lunch < 1356917524 686649 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :chapter of what? < 1356917569 749830 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx1-h-1-5.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was making a joke < 1356917619 738343 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jokes are hard. < 1356917874 422790 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx1-h-1-5.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was just reading https://github.com/ginatrapani/todo.txt-cli/wiki/The-Todo.txt-Format from the logs earlier < 1356917902 936294 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx1-h-1-5.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The beauty of todo.txt is that it’s completely unstructured [...] To get started, use special notation [...]" < 1356917939 418022 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx1-h-1-5.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The syntax rules are about three screenfuls long here < 1356917943 995140 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so is that thing seriously just for todo lists? < 1356917962 56457 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i'm just not busy enough but i'd usually use just a list < 1356917983 640231 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or org-mode if i was writing for a productivity blog, maybe < 1356917985 719427 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx1-h-1-5.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION files "completely unstructured" alongside "intentionally"
< 1356917986 235812 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx1-h-1-5.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and "a little large") < 1356918003 269324 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx1-h-1-5.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: well there is some software that helps you organise the list < 1356918006 318808 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx1-h-1-5.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and this is the syntax for it < 1356918013 955799 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx1-h-1-5.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll stick with hiveminder I think < 1356918031 75971 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx1-h-1-5.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least it is more honest :-3 < 1356918050 497235 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you communicate with it via pheremones? < 1356918106 819813 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx1-h-1-5.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no but somebody should create a pheromone interface layer < 1356918174 449340 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx1-h-1-5.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"We use a lowercase x so that completed tasks sort to the bottom of the task list using standard sort tools." <-- erm x wasn't the last letter of the alphabet last time I checked < 1356918211 776495 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But maybe 'y' and 'z' and so on are not being used. < 1356918265 602124 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: as gone through before, this is someone who thinks "plain text" is easy and universal. < 1356918296 624910 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, probably someone who's not even very good at English. and/or dumb. < 1356918301 503670 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx1-h-1-5.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I may want to have a task such as "yell at elliott" or "zap oerjan"! < 1356918321 726669 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :or "zot zzo38" < 1356918325 649648 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx1-h-1-5.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: "This format has been developed and refined over the course of 5 years by the Todo.txt community of users and developers." < 1356918339 853701 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it ASCII sorting order? < 1356918341 786086 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx1-h-1-5.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or "zzo38's birthday" < 1356918351 97179 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: great, now i'm depressed < 1356918353 850755 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If that is it then you should use ~ if you want to put at the end. < 1356918380 327110 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx1-h-1-5.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I guess it is? They don't say ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1356918387 880462 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: sorting tools don't seem to be specified beyond "standard" (lol) < 1356918405 791109 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: also, tasks can apparently be arbitrary text, so zapping zzos is quite allowed... < 1356918425 66674 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(is that the correct plural of "zzo"? what is the significance of 38? so many questions) < 1356918433 295212 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx1-h-1-5.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I liked how they think txt files are OS agnostic too. As far as I know Notepad.exe STILL can't handle line endings other than CRLF. < 1356918480 490721 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx1-h-1-5.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzos 1--37 were dismal failures. But the lessons learned from them led to the construction of the biggest and best yet < 1356918496 953091 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: bush hid the facts < 1356918514 84367 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx1-h-1-5.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :about zzo38? < 1356918533 126074 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_hid_the_facts quite possibly < 1356918680 464773 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx1-h-1-5.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah that's awesome < 1356918802 618918 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx1-h-1-5.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/todotxt/message/3229 <-- CHOMP < 1356918835 872044 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx1-h-1-5.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank goodness for plain text < 1356918901 14836 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Yes that solved the problem.... sort of" < 1356918909 714301 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The easy fix is to use wordpad instead of notepad." awesome. < 1356918976 805659 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The MS-DOS text editor, Visual Studio, and other programs, support LF line endings and CRLF line endings. < 1356918990 280559 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although it doesn't work with Notepad. < 1356919040 339767 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx1-h-1-5.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wordpad, the text editor for Real Men < 1356919120 511372 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i kind of have to respect notepad's continuing lack of features, though. unless it can read mail since XP but I doubt it? < 1356919186 868445 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1356919335 871615 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx1-h-1-5.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/todotxt/message/4611 <-- I have no idea what a MIT is or what's going wrong with that command < 1356919348 908128 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx1-h-1-5.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like sed vomited all over the terminal < 1356919432 540231 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«can't read 11 s/{[0-9]\{4\}\.[0-9]\{2\}\.[0-9]\{2\}}/{2012.10.26}/: No such file or directory» wow, i almost want to know how you fuck up that bad < 1356919558 547960 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm starting to think that Racket isn't as flexible as I'd like < 1356919683 537762 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx1-h-1-5.dab.02.net QUIT :Quit: Reconnecting… < 1356919694 929918 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Paint did get more feature-ful though < 1356919717 860610 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx1-h-42-9.dab.02.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1356919755 486546 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx1-h-42-9.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"There’s no [...] tags or flags" There are both of those things :-I < 1356919771 826138 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :today i am learning how to make bastardized pirozhki out of biscuits in a can < 1356920101 270908 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: yeah, i edited that article to tone down their paean to the mythical format of "plain text" < 1356920490 66649 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's with british people using 'stone' as a unit of weight < 1356920536 849796 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx1-h-42-9.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :People use units of mass as units of weight all the time, this one is no different < 1356920548 346162 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not what i object to < 1356920560 438549 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just a weird unit that nobody else uses or even knows about < 1356920614 395654 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps the imprecision is a virtue though < 1356920644 736820 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's easy to obsess over weight fluctuations of 1 lb or 1 kg[f] < 1356920645 70674 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx1-h-42-9.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shrug, I consider the Imperial system a waste of my brain cells to remember anyway :-) < 1356920665 982049 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a way that is counterproductive < 1356920672 83844 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx1-h-42-9.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it amuses me slightly that America is one of the great bastions of Imperial measure though, what with the whole Independence thing) < 1356920701 889738 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :except we don't use quite the same system, either < 1356920704 77421 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc the american imperial units are all slightly different from the british ones < 1356920714 83592 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a US fluid ounce is significantly different from a UK fluid ounce < 1356920715 404597 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :for Independence, presumably < 1356920718 839279 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1356920772 420039 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx1-h-42-9.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: that and the refusal to use SI is enough evidence to make me think they deliberately want to be incompatible :-) < 1356920857 375250 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx1-h-42-9.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I discovered recently that many Americans don't know what a fortnight is < 1356920887 307005 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx1-h-42-9.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think we should revive the use of sennight just to mess with their heads B-) < 1356920926 398287 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :about that, it's really quite weird how everyone seems to agree on the seven-day week < 1356920982 354866 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx1-h-42-9.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it fits neatly into a lunation < 1356920988 788666 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx1-h-42-9.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(as much as anything else anyway) < 1356921161 577242 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, romans had an 8-day week < 1356921184 339923 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the french revolutionary calendar had 10-day weeks! < 1356921186 923589 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(although they thought it was 9-day because romans didn't understand counting) < 1356921194 761224 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it also had Pantsless Days < 1356921239 61183 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Do you mean that the last day of one week was the same as the first day of the next week? < 1356921299 303960 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1356921518 779870 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Today is Prickle-Prickle, the 72nd day of The Aftermath in the YOLD 3178 < 1356921579 436005 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like something out of dwarf fortress < 1356921677 254031 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like a discordian date < 1356921701 614785 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the aftermath is my favorite month. < 1356921850 340872 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :secundo kalendas januarii < 1356921944 262462 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1356921951 533584 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*pridie kalendas januarii < 1356922001 302807 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that's today btw) < 1356922143 540430 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/onetesla/onetesla-a-diy-singing-tesla-coil < 1356922143 749351 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1356922154 698726 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this was developed at the hackerspace two blocks from my house :) < 1356922185 847725 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :singing tesla coils are pretty old hat, i thought < 1356922188 923618 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.roman-colosseum.info/roman-life/julian-calendar.htm (possibly beware of popups) < 1356922336 343327 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: sure, many people have made them, but i don't know about an easy to assemble kit < 1356922398 209378 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1356922520 223794 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is neat because it's something that anybody can build with basic soldering skills in an afternoon < 1356922537 607239 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it seems to be reasonably and safely designed, with MIDI / computer connectivity < 1356922549 802154 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it does not fundamentally advance humanity's understanding of the laws of physics < 1356922608 100428 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the midi interfacing bit is not just optically isolated but actually lives in a separate box with a fiber optic cable to the HV board < 1356922780 921583 :TodPunk!~Tod@166-70-93-209.ip.xmission.com QUIT :Read error: No route to host < 1356922824 291697 :WeThePeople!~WeThePeop@unaffiliated/wethepeople QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1356922851 893740 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx1-h-42-9.dab.02.net QUIT :Quit: zzz < 1356922943 81854 :TodPunk!~Tod@166-70-93-209.ip.xmission.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1356922946 88029 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :$250 is steep though < 1356922951 195799 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i might get one if the price goes down post-kickstarter < 1356922974 772756 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Good night < 1356924384 219175 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.25.167 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1356924476 938111 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1356925631 214286 :TodPunk!~Tod@166-70-93-209.ip.xmission.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1356925631 424843 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :*.net *.split < 1356925631 938361 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@dsl-olubrasgw2-58c0c6-161.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1356925632 577994 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes QUIT :*.net *.split < 1356925644 100321 :TodPunk!~Tod@166-70-93-209.ip.xmission.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1356925650 656381 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes JOIN :#esoteric < 1356925909 518379 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1356926835 806142 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would be cool to have one, but yeah, that price is a bit high. < 1356927337 168842 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For purpose of making some computer game, I wanted to make the second C preprocessor. Instead of "CPP" it can be "CPQ" the second one, which run after the first C preprocessor. Which finds commands with $ first to do replacements, and then further reads it to remove duplicate definitions and so on. < 1356927358 334808 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not exactly sure what to start with. < 1356927373 748648 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I do have some ideas about how to write such a program. < 1356927455 245216 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders if zzo38 would enjoy Racket
< 1356927604 385986 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Racket? < 1356928040 159099 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1356928193 495867 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a C parser code which I can change to what I need? < 1356928333 482958 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1356929029 548797 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, Racket is a Scheme derivative that, among other things, lets you make new languages that smoothly interoperate with other Racket modules < 1356929056 857584 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Redefining function application, defining a different reader, etc. < 1356929176 100915 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1356929263 431232 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm currently reading a tutorial about implementing Brainfuck as a Racket language < 1356929401 221103 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some examples of what I wish of a second C preprocessor (I have some ideas how to implement but not quite): < 1356929480 318741 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :$macro(red,x,y) { int @z=(x); hello(z,y); } red(1,2) becomes int _newname0=(1); hello(_newname0,2); < 1356929502 488061 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :int x=5; void xxx(int) {} int x=5; becomes int x=5; void xxx(int) {} < 1356929515 501954 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :int x; void xxx(int) {} int x=5; becomes int x=5; void xxx(int) {} < 1356929551 50794 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :int a[]={1,2,3,,,,}; becomes int a[]={1,2,3}; < 1356929629 265951 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :$pool(256); 'Apple'+'0'+'Car'+'Bat'+'Car' becomes "Apple","Bat","Car"; 256+'0'+258+257+258 < 1356929812 30134 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :void xxx(void) { $promote(-1) { int global1; } return; } becomes int global1; void xxx(void) { return; } < 1356929936 546791 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Furthermore there must be $template and $data commands < 1356929967 741390 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there anything like this which already exist? < 1356931359 225696 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :One problem seem to be, that in C some commands you will have the } terminates it but in other cases it is not terminated unless a semicolon. < 1356931518 852151 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-41-54.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1356931618 69591 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Will it work for this kind of preprocessor to just require that they all end in a semicolon or separated by a semicolon (like Haskell does)? < 1356931922 719178 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-45-88.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1356931923 152774 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-45-88.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1356931923 323036 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1356932144 739496 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1356932453 23626 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1356933389 745234 :WeThePeople!~WeThePeop@unaffiliated/wethepeople JOIN :#esoteric < 1356933791 316984 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1356933797 57302 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example, is this valid? void xyz(int x, double***y) { putchar(x); *y=0; }; int uuu=9; (notice a extra semicolon) < 1356933981 708934 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it is not < 1356934018 533765 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it allowed in GNU? < 1356934222 306643 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a way to work around? < 1356934229 480667 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, gcc doesn't care. < 1356934297 816560 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do other compilers which support GNU extensions care? < 1356934327 904391 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :They might, but I don't care about other compilers. < 1356934395 305083 :WeThePeople!~WeThePeop@unaffiliated/wethepeople QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1356934420 79667 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :some compilers actually bother to warn about extraneous semicolons < 1356934687 91844 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean such as clang with GNU89 mode. < 1356934816 22382 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which compilers make such warning and can it be suppressed partially? < 1356937844 125865 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is the command in GCC to add an extra step after the preprocessor? < 1356937866 630142 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(For if the filename suffix is a certain suffix) < 1356938280 246516 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :XKCD is kinda okay today, but the alt text is wonderful < 1356938497 87855 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://goatkcd.com/1154/sfw [nsfw] < 1356938818 526858 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1829 < 1356938886 551290 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i read a story about the search for the goatse guy once. i think his name might actually have been kirk? i forget. < 1356938956 93983 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :To boldly go... < 1356938987 602323 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :to boldly split infinitives where no one has split infinitives before < 1356939054 291421 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i read that article < 1356939153 33018 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my friend is talking about how he put an Intel SSD in his original Xbox < 1356939175 547118 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think he should put on neon lights and a big spoiler < 1356939201 721861 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: it is, in fact < 1356939214 793498 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: coincidental, though < 1356939226 284954 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: What's the matter with split infinitives? < 1356939240 299807 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, just an old joke <_<; < 1356939244 184601 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: or is it?? etc < 1356939247 486861 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I always attempt to pointlessly split infinitives < 1356939254 306612 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pff. < 1356939255 372059 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: or is it?? etc < 1356939262 699154 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: no, it is. The comic was posted before goatse's identity became well-known < 1356939270 306027 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know. < 1356939357 11486 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Did you work out the type derivatives thing? < 1356939404 907045 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :4:20 split infinitives every day < 1356939429 9024 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh? no. < 1356940721 992926 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.173 JOIN :#esoteric < 1356942251 858693 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-41-54.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1356942739 514278 :etb!~flood0r2@173.255.247.188 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1356942974 278906 :WeThePeople!~WeThePeop@unaffiliated/wethepeople JOIN :#esoteric < 1356943058 531760 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know how I know that Clojure has utterly poisoned my brain? < 1356943071 103002 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone keeps telling you so? < 1356943074 798893 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am impressed by the foo in (let foo () ...) being first-class < 1356943081 308388 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seriously impressed < 1356943083 265829 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a bit nuts < 1356943090 889062 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wha < 1356943091 708070 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should not be this impressed < 1356943127 319790 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :clojure doesn't lack recursive lexical functions, does it < 1356943145 278391 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It lacks them being tail-recursive < 1356943158 621121 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's that got to do with first-class-ness? < 1356943187 239441 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's also the fact that with that let it's sort of anonymous, don't need to letfn < 1356943190 191757 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :>.> < 1356943209 480073 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I'm just slowly forgetting Clojure < 1356943211 984618 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the exact opposite of anonymous, "foo" is right there! it is nonymous < 1356943291 739918 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tend to think of "anonymous" as "not exposing a name to the outside directly" < 1356943322 92417 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1356943328 874636 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats up with this?? < 1356943329 517559 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"not pushy" < 1356943335 282853 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed, what is up with this < 1356943648 565088 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi monqy < 1356943651 949831 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :good night < 1356943656 19891 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good night shachaf < 1356943686 520735 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know how in GCC to tell it to add an additional step after the preprocessor for files with a certain suffix, while otherwise treated them as a C source file? I looked at the document of spec strings but am not sure how to do it. < 1356943946 147457 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'd have to just separate those steps. < 1356943961 225558 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :gcc -E > foo.tmp; othertool foo.tmp > foo.i; gcc foo.i < 1356943988 494972 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is not a way to specify it in the spec strings? < 1356944252 49226 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo -e '#!/bin/sh\ncpp "$@" | foo' > /usr/local/bin/cpp < 1356944282 803055 :WeThePeople!~WeThePeop@unaffiliated/wethepeople QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1356944345 603646 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awesome, I can in fact write macros that redefine #%app within their lexical scope < 1356944407 970726 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :perfectly safe < 1356944435 62166 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastie.org/5601436 < 1356944442 605910 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The result of that is "HONK" < 1356944473 152377 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aight < 1356944602 582674 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: I don't think GCC will work like that though < 1356944648 470769 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, because it's dumb and hardcodes the path to its favourite cpp < 1356944675 186144 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you can force it to use another one < 1356944704 906694 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :with stocks and a riding crop < 1356944730 942966 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think CPP is built-in to GCC though. < 1356944767 836081 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even though it can be told to run only the preprocessor, and there are spec strings to control them, I don't know how to make it run differently. < 1356944856 25863 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't tell it to run another cpp? Weak. < 1356944872 842953 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can specify such that .ZZ are C++ source files or whatever, and check the prefix within a spec string, but I don't know how to make spec strings run additional programs. < 1356944935 430157 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It also says you can use pipes but it doesn't really explain how. < 1356944940 56025 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: you should make a variant of the unix 'top' utility and name it 'zztop' < 1356945036 855540 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-153-98.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1356945412 346150 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-153-98.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why the hell am I still subscribed to totheark on Youtube < 1356945420 208963 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-153-98.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't watched Marble Hornets in months < 1356945505 602694 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: quit < 1356945760 456042 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.173 QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1356946638 62963 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net NICK :Sgeo_ < 1356946678 139473 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net NICK :Sgeo < 1356947774 544576 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1356947779 235684 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1356947818 541179 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1356947877 587531 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :which are our markov bots again? < 1356947964 533769 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help < 1356947966 17803 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch " downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1356947971 79356 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls bin < 1356947974 61313 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​? \ @ \ ＷＥＬＣＯＭＥ \ addquote \ allquotes \ anonlog \ calc \ define \ delquote \ etymology \ forget \ fortune \ frink \ fuck \ google \ hatesgeo \ hi \ interp \ joustreport \ jousturl \ json \ karma \ karma- \ karma+ \ learn \ log \ logurl \ lua \ luac \ luarocks \ luarocks-admin \ macro \ maketext \ marco \ No \ pastaquote \ paste \ < 1356948066 165284 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm bin/hi < 1356948069 602516 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1356948087 865798 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1356948125 406369 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm bin/fuck < 1356948128 454850 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1356948133 299716 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1356948244 781474 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1356948246 641041 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :329) I figured out something about C program. If you use ? : a lot then you don't need as much parentheses but it makes it more difficult to understand. < 1356948333 57634 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what were bin/hi and bin/fuck < 1356948348 484869 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe they were worth keeping... < 1356948352 175024 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :no they weren't < 1356948365 960249 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi was "echo hi" and fuck was "printf '%s' '$1' < 1356948428 748147 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1356948536 478123 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log < 1356948538 146142 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2003-07-27.txt:02:09:56: Gravy made out of people! < 1356948810 242152 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: do you realize you've been here nearly 10 years? < 1356950146 968878 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I figured out how it might be done, by using the COLLECT_GCC and COLLECT_GCC_OPTIONS environment variables (which are not available inside of spec strings, but are available to the programs called by spec strings, and COLLECT_GCC_OPTIONS but not COLLECT_GCC needs to be processed by eval) < 1356950325 567949 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1356950771 498129 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1356951789 45105 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1356952392 987215 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@dsl-olubrasgw2-58c0c6-161.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1356952652 549014 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Noooo... that can't be right. < 1356952663 839446 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: check the logs < 1356952686 725383 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It must be some kind of a mistake. Maybe some of the years were skipped. < 1356952735 881470 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1356954286 664757 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1356955085 387419 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1356956087 300806 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's not even "nearly 10 years", it's over it already: "[2002-12-14 22:21:33] -!- fizzies [fizban@bistromath.gehennom.org] has joined #esoteric") < 1356956166 834990 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, have you mastered the esoteric? < 1356956262 766924 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not quite my first join either, since it seems there was a "fizzie [fizban@colin.befunge.org]" on-channel at that time; it seems to be just when I got my new (well, then-new) IRC box up and running. < 1356956315 747177 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, Mon Dec 09 07:24:10 2002 would have been the first. < 1356956362 313078 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And there were already six other dudes/duders/dudettes present. < 1356956445 975134 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, one's a bot. < 1356956485 819927 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :A dudit < 1356956501 795864 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(navigator, dbc, lament, deltab, exarkun; and very soon after, calamari.) < 1356956806 510222 :augur_!~augur@c-75-74-129-116.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1356956948 878386 :augur!~augur@c-75-74-129-116.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1356957112 197396 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1356957121 437007 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1356958356 446138 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1356960444 615100 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-45-88.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1356960463 82490 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-45-88.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1356960463 253450 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1356960634 765701 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1356961476 344985 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1356961959 596938 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1356962031 945258 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1356962750 912619 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-153-98.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1356962927 569605 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1356963390 312611 :WeThePeople!~WeThePeop@unaffiliated/wethepeople JOIN :#esoteric < 1356964477 862907 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1356964549 210185 :hubs!~flood0r2@173.255.247.188 JOIN :#esoteric < 1356964584 719850 :hubs!~flood0r2@173.255.247.188 NICK :etb < 1356964658 582773 :WeThePeople!~WeThePeop@unaffiliated/wethepeople QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1356964677 152193 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1356965082 577258 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1356965583 776405 :WeThePeople!~WeThePeop@unaffiliated/wethepeople JOIN :#esoteric < 1356965588 526148 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-85-12.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1356966196 71596 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.25.167 JOIN :#esoteric < 1356966488 654762 :mig22!~miguelort@180.194.201.184 JOIN :#esoteric < 1356967092 562885 :mig22!~miguelort@180.194.201.184 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1356967742 306939 :mig22!~miguelort@180.194.201.184 JOIN :#esoteric < 1356967767 17562 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-85-12.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1356968054 358583 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :19:44:23: but > and :t pass an expression to mueval, which has some charset problem < 1356968054 823160 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You have 2 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them. < 1356968057 367145 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: incorrect < 1356968061 250674 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: :t actually uses ghci directly < 1356968083 77891 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i corrected myself < 1356968116 400922 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was TOO LATE FOR THAT. < 1356968135 255982 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in any case, it's clearly a heap of charset messes < 1356968154 72918 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: The problem is not with mueval, it's with lambdabot. < 1356968182 959292 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot is using the same mueval as before, but the version of GHC it's using has been upgraded. < 1356968195 76399 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :% mueval -e 'let ä = 42 in ä' < 1356968197 412980 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::1:5: parse error on input `�' < 1356968207 307448 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah right, the new charset selection system... < 1356968214 861058 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :% ghc -e 'let ä = 42 in ä' < 1356968217 393426 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :42 < 1356968224 254136 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1356968230 10868 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps I'm wrong, then. < 1356968234 667036 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why did it use to work with mueval? < 1356968240 830490 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno < 1356968296 812536 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: what are the relevant environment variables as you start mueval? < 1356968311 998743 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno < 1356968323 95387 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1356968352 491280 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm asking you to check, btw < 1356968364 954055 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are the relevante environment variables? < 1356968366 620997 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, for their values, not their identities < 1356968367 391354 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :+typos < 1356968399 208420 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :LC_* and LANG stuff, i assume < 1356968406 386841 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :LANG, LC_CTYPE and LC_ALL are reasonably relevant for character sets. < 1356968534 888127 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :% env -i LANG=en_US.UTF-8 HOME="$HOME" PATH="$PATH" mueval -e 'let ä = 42 in ä'; env -i LANG=en_US.UTF-8 HOME="$HOME" PATH="$PATH" ghc -ignore-dot-ghci -e 'let ä = 42 in ä' < 1356968537 80184 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::1:5: parse error on input `�' < 1356968538 959184 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :42 < 1356968570 735151 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :LANG does not override what LC_FOO are set to, FWIW. < 1356968582 57084 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :env -i < 1356968639 716612 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ghc uses utf-8 for files regardless, this is documented < 1356968671 522211 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*for haskell files < 1356968683 34284 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :% env -i HOME="$HOME" PATH="$PATH" mueval -e 'let ä = 42 in ä'; env -i HOME="$HOME" PATH="$PATH" ghc -ignore-dot-ghci -e 'let ä = 42 in ä' < 1356968687 390533 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mueval-core: Enum.toEnum{Word8}: tag (56515) is outside of bounds (0,255) < 1356968690 381180 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::1:5: lexical error at character '\56515' < 1356968730 445856 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 'ä' < 1356968730 913343 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval: recoverEncode: invalid argument (invalid character) < 1356968745 768900 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Onneksi ääkköset eivät ole enää ongelma. < 1356968989 421300 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Myöntävä vastaus. < 1356969038 32886 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1356969072 348993 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ääliö, älä läiky. < 1356969127 566261 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Älä rääkkää kääkkää. < 1356969135 239386 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kenelle soitat ääliö < 1356969151 721651 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kenelle kellot soivat. < 1356969182 973848 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kokko kokosi kokon Kokkoon. Koko kokonko kokosi? Koko kokon. < 1356969208 580848 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vesihiisi sihisi hississä. < 1356969257 618953 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Onkiva rovasti on kiva rovasti sillä onkiva rovasti onki varovasti. (This loses something in the textual representation.) < 1356969310 824613 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Onkiva dean dean is nice it has a nice fishing rod gently Dean < 1356969335 771031 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Weird, I got: "Onkiva dean dean is nice because onkiva dean angling gently." < 1356969336 808724 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :poor google translate is very confused < 1356969407 248982 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it suggested replacing an onkiva with on kiva, so I did that < 1356969422 495436 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also Wiktionary says "rovasti" is "canon, provost" which I find more likely. It's a church title, and "provost" probably has the same roots. < 1356969456 425817 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :provost is "test cheese" in Swedish < 1356969466 819042 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :or perhaps sample cheese < 1356969493 384272 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"From Medieval Latin prōpositus, from Latin praepositus (“placed in front”)." < 1356969584 508620 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Bonfire bonfire gathered the pile. Size kokonko your size? Size bonfire." I think you're right, it must be all confuzzled. < 1356969588 882932 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Can you do better? < 1356969590 229658 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: was mixed with something very like fear seized the whole assemblage on the vaguely hexagonal pillar beyond the first gate, had not troubled me; and nigger-man was admitted as much for help as for companionship. we decided to find a bell or peal of bells in the tower whose narrow, louvre-boarded lancet windows his fnord had studied so often. here he knew strange things had happened. < 1356969600 752717 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently not. < 1356969663 409362 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Bonfire bonfire gathered the pile." could be part of a nursery rhyme about burning witches < 1356969826 876522 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: what do you think about witch hunts? < 1356969828 689453 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: as i thought of the lands and persons i had left seemed involved in a passage from any given dimensional plane to the next opening and began to climb the worn stone steps which must originally have emerged to earth somewhat southwest of the present day, was fnord though no one seemed to him to continue, since conditions so singular are fnord but the rationalism of my mind and made me wish fervently that i might wake up < 1356969865 224774 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interestingly Google has interpreted "kokosi" correctly in the first sentence (as "gathered", the third-person singular imperfect tense of verb koota 'to gather'), but not in the second (where it has opted for "your size", from the noun koko 'size' with the second-person singular possessive suffix -si). < 1356969906 799490 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION bans fungot for saying the n word
< 1356969907 831543 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: perception envisaged. edmund carter had dared to see. i moved toward the window and let himself down to the express office i was informed that no shipment for me had arrived. my next act, performed amidst a growing alarm, was to convey press reports to the arkham for fnord and forgiveness. zann said that he had < 1356969931 481802 :mig22!~miguelort@180.194.201.184 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1356969937 690155 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the n word? fnord? < 1356969955 620423 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think oerjan meant "narrow". < 1356969963 858169 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoops, I said it too. < 1356969978 418951 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it was a different word with the same syllable structure < 1356970060 605281 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somehow I was reminded of http://basicinstructions.net/storage/2012-03-08-mobyrerun.gif < 1356970065 176180 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1356970065 751891 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft* nethack pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1356970076 614554 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lovecraft. "of course" < 1356970124 941555 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style europarl < 1356970125 680671 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: europarl (European Parliament speeches during approx. 1996-2006) < 1356970126 223474 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Any policy resolutions for the upcoming new year? < 1356970129 288748 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: mr president, i should like to mention a couple of, in order not to affect the fishing industry after the year 2000 on whether a " brave new world, preferring instead to turn the new rules, either. since irradiation is practised in the member states have expressed. we are committed to promoting the dialogue. amendment to the corbett report the second report on fraud prevention for 1996, and this without specifying what < 1356970172 733930 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot should learn to match quotes and parens < 1356970207 214054 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh ho, you hit The Bug again. < 1356970209 893208 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The Perl version knows how to do that.) < 1356970224 671181 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :perl version!? < 1356970236 751569 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a Perl version of the babbling that I use for testing. < 1356970240 201964 :mig22!~miguelort@180.194.201.184 JOIN :#esoteric < 1356970262 306242 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also for fun, since it can take an initial context. So you can use it as a "continue the sentence" thing. < 1356970276 809931 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, you should port that to fungot < 1356970280 40895 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: the commission is nonetheless proposing to extend the period mentioned. i can assure you, however, as stated in the letter does not, in my opinion, zero risk does not stop there. i fully support my colleague, mr monti, i will insist on what i see as two quite fundamental points. the first is that the mental confusion of the same opinion from the international community to keep support for the right of those regions whic < 1356970324 517690 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: http://sprunge.us/OURc < 1356970345 858997 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is such a bonus pretzel!
< 1356970369 611372 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh no, the explosions have begun. < 1356970402 508877 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's 13 minutes past 6pm here; fireworks are permitted past 6pm.) < 1356970424 416245 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1356970425 518815 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :6h before the new year? poor dogs and owners < 1356970469 357424 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there's generally a burst at around this time, then it simmers down, and then heats up again for the 9pm-to-midnight period. < 1356970507 411521 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if there are any regulations at all here < 1356970525 626144 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :We have this... rocky hilltop with no buildings kind of thing to one direction of the house, a lot of people launch their fireworks from there. < 1356970540 60455 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1356970568 120758 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently the allowed time interval is from 6pm to 2am. < 1356970580 772287 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :explosions have begun here too. like, two days ago. < 1356970661 204150 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The firework sales started on December 27th, and there were a couple of booms back then too. < 1356970667 517935 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But only very sporadically. < 1356970687 682885 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i guess it was sporadic until today < 1356970710 195263 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: does new year exist in finland < 1356970712 224351 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does finland exist < 1356970726 389583 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? finland < 1356970727 657176 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, and no, respectively < 1356970727 827659 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finland is a European country. There are two people in Finland, and at least nine of them are in this channel. Corun drives the bus. < 1356970728 743521 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :can new years exist in a place that doesn't exist? < 1356970812 489632 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-85-12.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1356970851 567529 :mig22!~miguelort@180.194.201.184 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1356971009 324972 :mig22!~miguelort@180.194.201.184 JOIN :#esoteric < 1356971387 376218 :mig22!~miguelort@180.194.201.184 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1356971436 458165 :mig22!~miguelort@180.194.201.184 JOIN :#esoteric < 1356971516 413341 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1356971625 222841 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1356971754 886489 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1356971947 477264 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1356972283 489504 :mig22!~miguelort@180.194.201.184 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1356972806 481919 :mig22!~miguelort@180.194.144.68 JOIN :#esoteric < 1356973067 489414 :mig22!~miguelort@180.194.144.68 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1356973206 487336 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-45-88.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1356973215 253526 :mig22!~miguelort@180.194.144.68 JOIN :#esoteric < 1356973225 838132 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-45-88.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1356973226 8497 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1356973296 917080 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1356973341 449364 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-85-12.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1356973408 585515 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1356974044 216890 :mig22!~miguelort@180.194.144.68 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1356974122 853432 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1356974148 413595 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-85-12.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1356974597 36846 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1356974819 932188 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-85-12.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uses for Godel, Escher and Bach by Douglas Hofstadter number #427: holding down the circle button so you get loads of bolts on Ratchet and Clank < 1356975009 915450 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1356975237 226780 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :most uses of geb are a result of its physical properties though < 1356977099 485404 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-41-54.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1356977117 54547 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :happy australian mailman mailing list reminders day! < 1356977166 463724 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what do you call the one that comes right before new year's specifically < 1356977189 183056 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :new year's eve, I guess < 1356977240 944815 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean the reminders occasion < 1356977242 784841 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-85-12.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1356977258 324527 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :australian mailman mailing list reminders eve, presumably < 1356977269 154802 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, that would be the day before new year's eve < 1356977562 411757 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently my blog made it to Planet Clojure < 1356977569 463806 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/ghoseb/planet.clojure/commit/3e6b511d81acd1cde2f1fa2e63f44d3f48eab550 < 1356977592 839711 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although it's not like it's only the best and brightest who make it there < 1356977610 761898 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*cough* Ryan Kelker *cough* < 1356977619 18663 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes mr. comet, now you are famous! < 1356978067 32714 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the oldest post on your main page lacks at least a clojure tag. < 1356978622 515299 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1356978747 944546 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good point < 1356978778 971512 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :who is ryan kelker < 1356978796 171844 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Added the tag. No idea how that interacts with Planet Clojure < 1356978813 499359 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: who is clojure < 1356978859 209508 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :roland "lispy" clojure, french mad scientist supervillain < 1356978878 181832 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, the guy who posted this http://www.reddit.com/r/Clojure/comments/122ll8/free_clojure_course/ and http://www.reddit.com/r/Clojure/comments/zrs7c/doseq_vs_for/ < 1356978996 792949 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :are they bad or something < 1356979211 893005 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the person doesn't understand Clojure that well < 1356979219 250994 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yet believes he is capable of teaching it < 1356979261 744651 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The loop function / The doseq function / The for function" nice < 1356979520 515701 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just can't not paste this http://phenomena.nationalgeographic.com/2012/12/24/the-quantum-earthworm/ < 1356979576 652892 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :underground alchemists < 1356980029 457464 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds like half of #haskell :/ < 1356980056 117700 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :half of #haskell are underground alchemists, check < 1356980070 178740 :GreyKnight!586098ae@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.96.152.174 JOIN :#esoteric < 1356980136 36839 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: #haskell is better now! < 1356980138 674930 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha, just kidding < 1356980151 179894 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1356980222 262881 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The answer to a portion of the badness seems obvious: Two lambdabots < 1356980230 315291 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :One with Caleskell, one with Realskell < 1356980235 75848 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about just one lambdabot < 1356980237 42778 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :with haskell < 1356980244 69808 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there is only one Caleskell thing now < 1356980256 542677 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it is also the one Cale is least likely to get rid of < 1356980257 332863 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :By Realskell I mean non-Caleskell Haskell < 1356980278 990175 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but Caleskell barely exists any more < 1356980299 853803 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, what's the remaining Caleskell thing < 1356980303 219611 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I misread that line atfirst < 1356980305 212492 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :at first < 1356980313 55993 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (.) < 1356980314 742884 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Functor f => (a -> b) -> f a -> f b < 1356980328 161164 :GreyKnight!586098ae@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.96.152.174 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1356980635 332134 :augur_!~augur@c-75-74-129-116.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1356980644 195771 :GreyKnight!586098ae@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.96.152.174 JOIN :#esoteric < 1356980648 385178 :augur!~augur@c-75-74-129-116.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1356980862 582006 :GreyKnight!586098ae@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.96.152.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fooo < 1356980910 982477 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t 2 3 < 1356980912 312436 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Num a, Num (a -> t)) => t < 1356980914 968666 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^^^ < 1356980920 340259 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t x < 1356980921 658021 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Expr < 1356980930 655592 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t 3 x + 7 < 1356980932 201761 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: read ":t 2 3" again < 1356980932 372317 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Num (Expr -> a), Num a) => a < 1356980939 745670 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh ok < 1356980940 774832 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 2 3 < 1356980943 392852 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Could not deduce (GHC.Num.Num (a0 -> t)) < 1356980943 563774 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : arising from the ambiguity chec... < 1356980956 121076 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: the f/x/etc. things might be Caleskell but they're also very useful for pedagogy < 1356980959 122980 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I don't count them < 1356980967 765107 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> foldr f z [a,b,c,d] < 1356980969 719412 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : f a (f b (f c (f d z))) < 1356980970 377742 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :etc. < 1356981026 614081 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are useful yeah < 1356981089 217077 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1356981122 309657 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1356981128 106801 :GreyKnight!586098ae@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.96.152.174 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1356981383 542533 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.113.183.37 JOIN :#esoteric < 1356981394 381736 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.113.183.37 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Half of #haskell are earthworms < 1356981546 949343 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.113.183.37 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 804 < 1356981548 146262 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :804) * oerjan makes a brainfuck derivative for quoting xkcds < 1356981746 184526 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1356981769 890302 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.113.183.37 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION shoots oerjan with a firework -----==>
< 1356981772 525011 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION makes a brainfuck derivative for stabbing people in the face over the internet
< 1356981846 549387 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.113.183.37 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION makes a firework for deriving people over the Internet
< 1356981860 214921 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION makes a brainfuck derivative for bricking brains. checkmate Phantom_Hoover!
< 1356981990 326365 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.113.183.37 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to read more of http://phantom-hoover.tumblr.com/ < 1356982000 732647 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.113.183.37 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there are only two posts :< < 1356982041 67869 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.113.183.37 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm I'm hungry < 1356982207 412062 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight, read my blog instead? < 1356982217 50193 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.113.183.37 QUIT :Quit: Reconnecting… < 1356982238 706225 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1356982248 890830 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.113.183.37 JOIN :#esoteric < 1356982280 872804 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom Hoover's tumblr is funny. Mine is not. < 1356982284 394002 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION has a sad
< 1356982350 937764 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to be AFK later < 1356982351 253315 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the bright side, your tumblr is written by you < 1356982368 568723 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heading out east < 1356982571 133093 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.113.183.37 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIRC it is ghostwritten by someone else < 1356982574 779544 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.113.183.37 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't recall who < 1356982693 154363 :WeThePeople!~WeThePeop@unaffiliated/wethepeople QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1356982788 166503 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: Taneb < 1356983017 76991 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.113.183.37 QUIT :Quit: Reconnecting… < 1356983032 211707 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.113.183.37 JOIN :#esoteric < 1356983495 68250 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sadly my tumblr is inactive now < 1356983532 318658 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the wake of hate mail < 1356983554 649349 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hate mail for what? < 1356983567 891867 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my tumblr < 1356983618 362717 :WeThePeople!~WeThePeop@unaffiliated/wethepeople JOIN :#esoteric < 1356983638 291347 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome WetThePeople < 1356983639 608431 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :WetThePeople: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1356983662 899542 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, what was the hate about < 1356983676 991928 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuck derivatives, what else < 1356983688 266891 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1356983701 670154 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, not like, an unpopular homestuck ship? < 1356983730 100606 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have this nagging suspicion neither Bike nor Fiora has seen Phantom_Hoover's tumblr < 1356983743 261997 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1356983747 423485 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1356983763 663818 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh is it that prettycurehentaixxx one that followed fiora? i bet it is < 1356983773 674050 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://phantom-hoover.tumblr.com/ < 1356983795 812885 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :... just two posts? XD < 1356983805 296096 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :god damn it, i thought you were joking < 1356983810 161651 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pester taneb if you want more < 1356983871 137423 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.113.183.37 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1356984282 825921 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1356984418 662151 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1356984488 146000 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1356985178 855504 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-41-54.mpls.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could cover Immi < 1356985908 701599 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter QUIT :Quit: c00kiemon5ter < 1356986096 243124 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter JOIN :#esoteric < 1356986307 600227 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish it was socially acceptable for men to use purses. < 1356986328 610797 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's socially acceptable for you to hit jerks with them so go for it < 1356986330 42778 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also hate the fact that at least on this matter I'm valuing social acceptability over function < 1356986352 351134 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It isn't? < 1356986534 935259 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe strike a balance by using a messenger bag? < 1356986550 452190 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use one instead of a purse anyways most of the time < 1356986564 539361 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it socially acceptable to wear a backpack outside of school contexts? < 1356986581 776896 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter QUIT :Quit: c00kiemon5ter < 1356986591 651787 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I always felt weird with that, it's actually kind of frustrating < 1356986604 92402 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was infinitely easier to carry my laptop in a backpack than with my messenger bag < 1356986610 186652 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :since my back is way stronger than my arms or shoulders < 1356986620 547481 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but after graduating from school I felt like an idiot wearing it < 1356986670 487129 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bas2-h-21-6.dab.02.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1356986753 282769 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION tends to carry a backpack most places.
< 1356986766 661372 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bas2-h-21-6.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have my backpack on pretty much everywhere < 1356986783 365652 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps I should go to school to get rid of that habit. < 1356987021 410167 :greyooze!~GK@dab-bas2-h-1-2.dab.02.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1356987026 531702 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bas2-h-21-6.dab.02.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1356987027 195613 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter JOIN :#esoteric < 1356987032 360593 :greyooze!~GK@dab-bas2-h-1-2.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: http://sgeo.tumblr.com/post/38587255013/straight-translations-of-monads-from-haskell-to-x is interesting, I didn't know people were exporting monads to other languages < 1356987034 386631 :greyooze!~GK@dab-bas2-h-1-2.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should write more about the hows whys and wherefores :-) < 1356987044 27666 :greyooze!~GK@dab-bas2-h-1-2.dab.02.net NICK :GreyKnight < 1356987086 826033 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could rant about the how nots < 1356987119 125833 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to get going soon < 1356987392 157273 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bas2-h-1-2.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1356987393 871066 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :100) like, just like I'd mark "Bob knob hobs deathly poop violation EXCREMENT unto;" as English alise: that's great filler ais523: well it contains all the important words in the english language... < 1356987451 859095 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote profunctor < 1356987453 450163 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1356987457 139619 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote functor < 1356987458 641695 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :857) [after discussing lens] they seem to be the fashion of this winter hagb4rd is wearing this season's Lens, a stunning little ensemble with functor trim < 1356987467 341230 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :all i can think is "prolapse", weird < 1356987472 609068 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote variant < 1356987474 98152 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :198) 22:55 < qfr> How am I supposed to develop software in Haskell if I can't even prepare my projects in UML?! It seems like an impossible task. HAHA [...] this is amazing, like meeting a Mormon or something \ 213) I need a new desktop background j-invariant: Try http://codu.org < 1356987520 973827 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like this guy < 1356987521 272733 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bas2-h-1-2.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 213 < 1356987522 931429 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :213) I need a new desktop background j-invariant: Try http://codu.org/spinners.png (tiled) uhrghoaudp < 1356987544 407866 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, i actually used to use that as my background. < 1356987545 935835 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Going now < 1356987658 142191 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bas2-h-1-2.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo is off to have a social life < 1356987673 433973 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1356987675 50135 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's absurd < 1356987725 339971 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: we know Sgeo has a social life < 1356987729 65154 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but his social life is indeed absurd < 1356987736 862173 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1356987755 493812 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-41-54.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1356987787 169238 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :my social life is pretty absurd < 1356987923 970152 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bas2-h-1-2.dab.02.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1356988078 888119 :sirdancealot!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz QUIT :Quit: KEEP SPARKS. FLAME AWAY. < 1356988130 165839 :sirdancealot!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1356988620 712171 :etb!~flood0r2@173.255.247.188 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1356988653 129617 :flood0r2!~flood0r2@ebuc.co JOIN :#esoteric < 1356988730 358463 :flood0r2!~flood0r2@ebuc.co QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1356988743 790065 :flood0r2!~flood0r2@ebuc.co JOIN :#esoteric < 1356988779 656638 :flood0r2!~flood0r2@ebuc.co QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1356989143 812286 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: http://zem.fi/egostats/plot_tapeheat.png < 1356989171 460088 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ty < 1356989208 597277 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I also made the per-program-and-tape-length plots have a fixed cell width, like quintopia suggested, which indeed made them look better.) < 1356989231 176495 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Your program is kind of the odd one out.) < 1356989351 943808 :etb!hubs@198-84-219-56.cpe.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1356989459 742625 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yeah, it does a full tape clear < 1356989472 571040 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so when it wins, it's often either at its own flag, or has been going back and forth for most of the game < 1356989779 37605 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you could make monads in whatever programming language or other stuff if you know what category it is; such as, Haskell is pure functions but in other programming language it might not be do you mean monads on the pure function category, or something else? However, impure functions with side effect does form a category too, it is the (Kleisli IO) category. < 1356989842 466121 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :awwww < 1356989861 90490 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :all the episodes of jam got taken down from youtube when i was only halfway through < 1356989981 883566 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-41-54.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1356990397 649356 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if some programming language is made to use monads with some category other than functions? < 1356990606 127785 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1356991222 465931 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: i once tried to find out what would be the monads of a prolog-like language, which is based on relations instead of functions. and whether the definite clause grammar syntax was a monadic syntax. couldn't wrap my head around it properly, though. < 1356991246 587865 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: there's an established relation between its grammar thing and monads, I think < 1356991277 145624 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think a relations can form a category too. < 1356991280 429366 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the usual DCG interpretation is essentially state threading like the State monad in haskell) < 1356991298 195566 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: sure they do, i just don't know what kind of monads that category has < 1356991317 530161 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I don't quite know either. < 1356991320 166840 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yaaarrr it's 20-13 here now. < 1356991336 234680 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :x (R . S) y = exists z. x R z & z S y is the usual composition < 1356991336 429324 :nortti!~juhani@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: it is 7 there? < 1356991340 63728 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is a identity monad for all categories though. < 1356991344 390632 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Happy using the wrong timezone, Finnish fuckers!!!! < 1356991345 214730 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :for binary relations < 1356991346 400805 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: It's 7 here. < 1356991411 210544 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: do you think that because i've discussed this question here before, or because you have an actual reference? :P < 1356991438 688458 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I forget, but I've definitely heard it before, and I think not from you < 1356991446 660453 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(possibly both at the same time, in which case i've forgotten the reference) < 1356991651 661776 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fireworks at ten? < 1356991656 550805 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :idiots < 1356991702 60877 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fireworks from six to two. < 1356991731 277904 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fireworks from yesterday to next week < 1356991838 406107 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fireworks all year. < 1356992247 890207 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-41-54.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1356992290 561170 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The category of relations is the Kleisli category of the set monad on the category of functions. Therefore, will a monad transformer possibly tell you anything about monads on a category of relations? < 1356992529 82767 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :do monad transformers give monads on the kleisli category of the underlying monad? < 1356992596 922945 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. < 1356992628 392378 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I wonder if monad transformers could tell you anything at all about such things. < 1356992659 241426 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know either, but that would mean you at least get some monads < 1356992712 918800 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1356992737 518203 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the pure morphism should have type forall a. Kleisli m a (...something...) < 1356992768 736338 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or forall a. a -> m (...something...) < 1356992806 11120 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :where something shouldn't be a itself unless you want the identity monad < 1356992846 328265 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems unlikely to me that every monad transformer gives something of that form < 1356992919 538988 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems unlikely to me too < 1356993018 817500 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But does WriterT do that? < 1356993055 824371 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a -> m (w, a) < 1356993074 165438 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t runWriterT < 1356993075 708555 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :WriterT w m a -> m (a, w) < 1356993083 484733 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1356993085 902291 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :weeeeeeee < 1356993104 938080 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so return of WriterT rewraps to the right type < 1356993111 768748 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :eat okay < 1356993114 326993 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait no < 1356993121 923361 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :star ham < 1356993137 965762 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t runWriterT . return < 1356993139 456448 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Monad m, Monoid w) => a -> m (a, w) < 1356993147 172245 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it does < 1356993184 12180 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1356993242 413061 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so T = (, w) < 1356993323 591835 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you talking about corepresentability or somethin'? < 1356993331 610570 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then we need mu : T (T a) -> m (T a) < 1356993353 562300 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've seen an argument between theorietic physicists < 1356993366 15795 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: no, we're wondering if WriterT (and perhaps some other transformers) gives a monad in the kleisli category of the underlying monad < 1356993366 700679 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :in Max Planck Institute < 1356993382 439759 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looked as follows: < 1356993396 794125 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :one guy writes pi sigma tau on the blacboard < 1356993403 33298 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :10 minutes later < 1356993419 132171 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mu :: ((a, w), w) -> m (a, w) < 1356993419 531896 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pacific standard time? < 1356993420 252146 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other guy erases pi and puts lambda instead < 1356993445 234555 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike? < 1356993451 622098 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :who's Bike anyway? < 1356993455 513145 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike is bike < 1356993457 653828 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you drunk < 1356993462 700753 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are bikes? we just don't know < 1356993464 961348 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly < 1356993478 621248 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've got a bike, you can ride if you'd like < 1356993483 918151 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :& stuff < 1356993491 436380 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Bike < 1356993500 162125 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you like corepresentability or representability more < 1356993505 904240 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"choose wisely" < 1356993509 976278 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: how did you know? < 1356993520 996140 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Corepresentability is a dog. < 1356993565 744894 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hoogle ((a, w), w) -> m (a, w) < 1356993566 175131 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :No results found < 1356993596 7382 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: it was kind of obvious < 1356993642 423526 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t return . writer . join . runWriter < 1356993644 4081 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Monad ((,) a), Monad m, MonadWriter w m1) => Writer (a, w) a -> m (m1 a) < 1356993657 970055 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should use (w,) instead of (,w) < 1356993665 227346 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(,w): THE ENEMY < 1356993677 658802 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: sadly transformers disagrees < 1356993687 381954 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :sadly transformers is a liar < 1356993732 314745 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree that (w,) would be a better way to define it (and it should be itself defined as a monad) < 1356993929 490165 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t return . writer . join . runWriter :: Monad m => ((a, w), w) -> m (a, w) < 1356993930 989211 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `((a, w), w)' < 1356993931 159624 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : with actual type `Writer w0 a0' < 1356993931 159818 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Expected type: ((a, w), w) -> (w, (w, w1)) < 1356993942 237426 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm < 1356993965 291553 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t return . join . writer < 1356993966 747723 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Monad m, MonadWriter w m1) => (m1 a, w) -> m (m1 a) < 1356993984 721079 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :*.net *.split < 1356993984 891740 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch QUIT :*.net *.split < 1356993992 721578 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch JOIN :#esoteric < 1356993993 408702 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1356993993 578915 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t return . join . writer :: Monad m => ((a, w), w) -> m (a, w) < 1356993994 685124 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Could not deduce (Monad ((,) a1)) arising from a use of `join' < 1356993994 855989 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : from the context (Monad m) < 1356993994 856185 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : bound by the inferred type of < 1356993997 901210 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ignoring wrappers and stuff, (return . join) would obviously be the correct type, at least. < 1356994099 286078 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t return . join . map writer . writer :: Monad m => ((a, w), w) -> m (a, w) < 1356994100 310109 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `(a, (a, w))' with actual type `[b0]' < 1356994100 480681 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Expected type: [a0] -> (a, (a, w)) < 1356994100 480893 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Actual type: [a0] -> [b0] < 1356994117 642151 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION decides to ignore the wrappers
< 1356994177 818227 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hhttp://www.cs.earlham.edu/~jeremiah/linux-pix/linux20shark.jpg < 1356994259 180452 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does linux even have that level of WordArt < 1356994320 378116 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1356994429 247543 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously you just write a TRIVIAL raytracer as a bash script < 1356994457 267539 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote obviously you just write a TRIVIAL raytracer as a bash script < 1356994461 71691 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :891) obviously you just write a TRIVIAL raytracer as a bash script < 1356995273 112643 :WeThePeople!~WeThePeop@unaffiliated/wethepeople QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1356995510 943392 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :happy new year etc. < 1356995655 618880 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: fuck you it's not new yea'rs yet < 1356995659 68297 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :UTC+1? < 1356995659 879934 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :FUCK YOU and FUCK THE NEW year < 1356995666 345765 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :UTC+norway < 1356995686 416799 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ÜτÇ < 1356995699 654176 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Happy happy new year's day day < 1356995756 217502 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hapy nyr. < 1356995785 67370 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --finnish --norwegian 10 < 1356995788 891673 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :kuva ressaksjon jøyalaistid sykeoritselvist lasterämilliardean herrettelever persona hipeämme trenemenevimme korrekursidi < 1356995804 755290 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Happy jøyalaistid, everyone. < 1356995830 772452 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :happy jøyalaistid < 1356995839 393981 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But see if you have the monad laws to make a writer monad on a category of relations. < 1356995945 284527 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Happy new year! < 1356995964 849300 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :(at least in UTC+1) < 1356995976 328272 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --swedish 10 < 1356995978 197409 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :insens bråks förarna nationenskansens ohyggarna lovspännis ogärnblick infotoket arkt involutslöj < 1356995988 94056 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly you must mean göalaistid < 1356995989 445452 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Happy involutslöj too. < 1356996031 572211 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And an ogärnblick lovspännis också. < 1356996101 886634 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, what the hell? < 1356996109 379950 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :just keep the ohyggarna away < 1356996128 176853 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't start any bråks. < 1356996137 528039 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, "involutslöj" look more like Finnish than Swedish to me < 1356996166 435940 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: UTC+1 ISNT REAL < 1356996168 400276 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aka "Vorpal has no idea how finnish works" < 1356996171 380185 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, oh? < 1356996179 249069 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, true < 1356996223 397353 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: tycker du inte det är löjligt med involutionar? < 1356996233 387166 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --gaelic 10 < 1356996234 226214 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think there's any Finnish word that would end in a "j". < 1356996235 45960 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :h-eòla slaid deilinn sìth thar camhnapag rìochadh shèidh cè fis < 1356996237 773998 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, "involutionar"? < 1356996243 70902 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, my user account is there. < 1356996297 621115 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: fis is Finnish for "a really dumb terrible person", right < 1356996311 199373 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --esolangs 20 < 1356996312 701184 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oddball v-- jump shersuble colambda crab unisp sheltaplex betal numberwatesyze kayak bline etaplet bub fob toi formula hatercal p xs < 1356996318 400902 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: sorry, *involutioner < 1356996341 948460 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :HATERCAL < 1356996375 988394 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :some of those are clearly missing in the wiki < 1356996409 785808 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sheltaplex and colambda in particular < 1356996413 58142 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run words --esolangs 20 #MORE < 1356996415 26050 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :chinter per alpaca 01_ nullfuck/w/ind rever eneversioncom 2d-ref hat2.0 ihat arbf nhohnhehr limp boat ver minitum bet thesquiem mdpn bit < 1356996418 434056 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1356996423 412967 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :colambda exists < 1356996432 373819 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :hat2.0, the best language for hats. < 1356996440 708517 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :hat2.0 is also right next to ihat. < 1356996453 321581 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least it's obvious whose bot HackEgo is. < 1356996468 809116 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: You didn't answer my question :,( < 1356996496 96585 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: IT DOES NOT EXIST < 1356996504 700166 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, make up HATERCAL then. I think list of ideas does now have section about names, with some things written there. < 1356996513 562167 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: fis is norwegian for fart, hth < 1356996536 268267 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :HATERCAL < 1356996560 411947 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric : Vorpal: sorry, *involutioner <-- I have no idea what that is? < 1356996632 309008 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Involution might help. < 1356996652 796638 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, I see < 1356996710 312399 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION looks up the esoteric meaning
< 1356996790 681692 :TodPunk!~Tod@166-70-93-209.ip.xmission.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1356996793 810250 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :numberwatesyze sounds like the polish version of numberwang < 1356996800 570780 :Tod-Autojoined!~Tod@166-70-93-209.ip.xmission.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1356996821 103621 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: you get right working on that. < 1356996881 373799 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :HATERCAL is like intercal except with a rather different politeness calibration. also it has GOTO. < 1356996919 802642 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523 cannot maintain it, as it uses "DAMN YOU" obligatory in places < 1356997020 901448 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :COMPILER LANGUAGE WITH NO PRINTABLE ACRONYM < 1356997052 543281 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*ACRONYM FIT TO PRINT < 1356997126 353610 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure that's an improvement. but then, what in HATERCAL is. < 1356997164 84005 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :except the GOTO, which complements the flow control in the way ais523 has suggested. < 1356997380 172128 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the esoteric involution article is clearly relevant btw: < 1356997384 540662 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"As an example, the so-called descent of the Monad into matter means an involution or involving or infolding of spiritual potencies into material vehicles which coincidentally and contemporaneously, through the compelling urge of the infolding energies, unfold their own latent capacities, unwrap them, roll them forth; and this is the evolution of matter." < 1356997400 998413 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that leibniz or something < 1356997414 904356 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :– Gottfried de Purucker < 1356997445 211741 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :same first name < 1356997517 309383 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :As an example, the so-called descent of the Monad into matter means an involution | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1356997530 181526 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ? < 1356997545 544067 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: numberwatesyze sounds like the polish version of numberwang < 1356997556 974143 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's numberwang? < 1356997568 511368 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --esolangs 20 < 1356997570 304654 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :hev dumbf*ck mempovar murin con bytep underix wikipleaseporth fullfuck-- rever shack bak 2d-ref shogoriendevia fanjix incal evil cha fugue flog < 1356997589 822994 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :THAT'S NUMBERWANG < 1356997603 540401 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shogoriendevia < 1356997603 843985 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :pitty people < 1356997612 134145 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also http://esolangs.org/wiki/Numberwang < 1356997644 496675 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :provide context of kmc's statement' please < 1356997684 323444 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i wonder how it got that, i don't recognize any of the pieces < 1356997711 513400 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :last ' -> , < 1356997752 487552 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : oddball v-- jump shersuble colambda crab unisp sheltaplex betal numberwatesyze kayak bline etaplet bub fob toi formula hatercal p xs < 1356997761 42383 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: ^ < 1356997781 614132 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :and? < 1356997800 601548 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: it's an autogenerated esolang name < 1356997808 822623 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :am I supposed to approve that this shit is polish version of numberwang? < 1356997850 155697 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, you are supposed to _make_ the polish version of numberwang, duh < 1356997860 99275 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION thinks people are _so_ slow today
< 1356997861 856680 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :pierdolę < 1356997897 128171 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :DON'T MESS WITH ME, I HAVE GOOGLE TRANSLATE < 1356998004 609939 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: this should help you get started http://translate.google.no/translate?sl=en&tl=pl&js=n&prev=_t&hl=no&ie=UTF-8&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fesolangs.org%2Fwiki%2FNumberwang < 1356998019 893686 :etb!hubs@198-84-219-56.cpe.teksavvy.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1356998026 941477 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the worst thing is, i'm entirely sober < 1356998039 268328 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :I completely understood the english version < 1356998049 852620 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's unbelievably stupid < 1356998058 131422 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :and oerjan < 1356998080 770515 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know that hi-voltage alcohol is almost unavailable in Norway < 1356998089 911452 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a pitty < 1356998093 418657 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :come to PL < 1356998105 543302 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's ok i had aquavit on christmas eve < 1356998117 585699 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.2l ? :P < 1356998172 31108 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, a small glass. < 1356998187 326149 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.1ml ?:P < 1356998191 172166 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i'm not complaining about not having alcohol. < 1356998199 353830 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1356998207 608135 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you're boring Norwegian < 1356998211 852270 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just realized i was behaving as if i was drunk above < 1356998221 548961 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :you were < 1356998253 943179 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll tell you a story < 1356998270 746974 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i am fully assuming you are drunk. you're polish after all. < 1356998291 919684 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not drunk constantly, mind You < 1356998308 976169 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :and pilish is for nails < 1356998313 630733 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :polish* < 1356998320 575773 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :IF YOU SAY SO < 1356998322 349694 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :Polish is the word