< 1354320564 980499 :augur_!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1354320571 232219 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1354320608 2091 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354322566 442053 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the best chess AI that can run on an ATtiny13 with 64 bytes of RAM under standard time controls? < 1354322591 988392 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think this would be more fun than writing a standard chess AI, and would require a lot more knowledge of the game < 1354322608 475944 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Neverhood! < 1354322685 525397 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, a chess AI that hasn't room to store more than a handful of game boards. check. < 1354322692 465207 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(mate.) < 1354322754 667818 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and that's with some clever compression.) < 1354322822 54531 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess you just need one game board and the ability to store undos to previous positions, to do a minimax thing. < 1354322891 210905 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1354322949 568885 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, good luck. < 1354323053 152100 :myndzl!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e NICK :myndzi < 1354323069 948034 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.40.18 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1354323127 394744 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you also have 1kB of read-only code+data < 1354323138 610787 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well actually you can write to it but sloooooowly and only a limited number of times < 1354323277 794057 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.40.18 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354324291 106501 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi monqy < 1354324295 477463 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi monqy < 1354324308 729948 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: what does  do < 1354324332 245336 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :eally not much < 1354324369 413212 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :eally? < 1354324377 54466 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey elliott it's tomorrow now < 1354324381 165053 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Øh wëll. < 1354324389 247845 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1354324520 750928 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is standard time controls? < 1354324677 867972 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't know < 1354324693 352964 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :FIDE gives "90 minutes for the first 40 moves followed by 30 minutes for the rest of the game with an addition of 30 seconds per move starting from move one" < 1354324853 422821 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1354326214 898155 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.40.18 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1354329078 977317 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I made a GEN routine "s3msample" for use with Csound. S3M loop point is one after the end, and I do not know if this is the case with Csound. < 1354329787 730533 :sivoais!~zaki@199.19.225.239 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1354330236 26844 :sivoais!~zaki@199.19.225.239 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354331412 23099 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it does not support Adlib instruments. Perhaps there could be a plugin or UDO which plays Adlib instruments? < 1354331899 197647 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354332054 378421 :Tod-Autojoined!~Tod@166-70-93-209.ip.xmission.com NICK :TodPunk < 1354332541 477494 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least what I think would be a good way to design a file browser for UNIX computers would be, is, if you type in some wildcards and push some key to open the file list which you can click the left button to add to the command, and perhaps right button to preview (you can set up the preview command with another key). < 1354332547 447968 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you think? < 1354333014 743198 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION looks up, sees kmc's chess AI
< 1354333049 789222 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :64 bytes... I guess you could fit a few bitboards in that < 1354333141 469452 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :That might be tricky though, I wonder if that's even enough room to store stuff for alpha/beta pruning < 1354333165 689351 :hagb4rd2!~perdito@koln-5d81f7ce.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo038: yes your the ideas are good. but i really don't see why there must be a difference in the behaviour of a file browser and a http browser (for example). indeed i wonder why i need both.. < 1354333174 145909 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I < 1354333182 837089 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd even be worried about running out of just, like, temp space. like doing move generation < 1354333270 782271 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hagb4rd2: Well, it is useful for different things, and there are other reasons too, why it should differ in whatever ways. < 1354333299 494282 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, i think it would be a fun challenge because you would rely a lot more on heuristic tricks rather than tree search < 1354333310 939155 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean the terminal emulator would load it to allow you to select files and then the files you selected are put in the command line. < 1354333317 122171 :hagb4rd2!~perdito@koln-5d81f7ce.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: i dunno. there should be a a good way to browse through any hierarchical grouped data < 1354333335 400237 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :writing a chess AI sounds like a lot of fun < 1354333344 549928 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :when i was judging students' othello AIs, it seemed that the ones that did reasonably well in very little time were more interesting than the ones that had a competent implementation of alpha-beta minimax that consumed the full available time < 1354333350 826916 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used to do a good bit of chess stuff but I was more interested in the AI than in, like, the actual game ^^;; < 1354333361 139874 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :othello AIs! I remember that < 1354333363 919487 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Arc_Koen < 1354333388 480401 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's still a ton of heuristic stuff in tree search though < 1354333401 901628 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like so much, I remember reading for days about it < 1354333411 644788 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and all the really complicated heuristics for gauging the state of the board < 1354333428 798046 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :extensions, quiescence search... < 1354333463 347016 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be a fun thing for a hacker con with programmable badges < 1354333463 943241 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the horizon problem <_> < 1354333471 138395 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :to have a thing where you can program a chess AI onto your badge < 1354333476 325630 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then it plays against other people you encounter < 1354333504 65075 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is just about the nerdiest idea i've ever heard said < 1354333507 355071 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1354333514 916852 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my favorite chess AI thing though is nakamura beating rybka in blitz chess < 1354333522 993763 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the horrid way he did it < 1354333531 523790 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was awesome < 1354333542 456637 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :assuming you mean the playbook hack thing < 1354333542 769278 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :( http://fioraaeterna.tumblr.com/post/20186536921/ ) < 1354333554 681498 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1354333566 269630 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :horizon effect abuse, plus 50-move-rule abuse < 1354333574 499378 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hagb4rd2: Well, I don't think HTTP really supports hierachical grouped data (although the file being served could be XML or something which does support it), which, the file manager should be difference due to such thing. < 1354333603 621858 :hagb4rd2!~perdito@koln-5d81f7ce.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't try extensions which enhance the abilities of some browsers to browse files too, but i've heard they're out there < 1354333629 230410 :hagb4rd2!~perdito@koln-5d81f7ce.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure there are differences on the technical side < 1354333657 947141 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still I don't think it is such a good idea as a general purpose file browser though, even if a web browser does have a file browser function. < 1354333705 670632 :hagb4rd2!~perdito@koln-5d81f7ce.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe this is due to a kind of a strange meme < 1354333832 23611 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: wow, nice < 1354333882 842701 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nakamura is terrifying < 1354333889 923395 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a good way of course < 1354333959 404028 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the horizon effect is really tricky though with tree search stuff in general < 1354333971 672454 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :since the AI can keep "putting off" an inevitable doom and make it look like it's not actually coming < 1354333979 25461 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's hard to prove that it is < 1354334015 242026 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google chess programming wiki horizon effect < 1354334017 416218 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://chessprogramming.wikispaces.com/Horizon+Effect < 1354334539 551108 :hagb4rd2!~perdito@koln-5d81f7ce.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: if no other routes are specified you can access files on a http server in the way their source is organised in files and directories on the server itself. nevertheless you can access all other routes with a string (typically by separating the tree level element names with a slash or sth) < 1354334633 386961 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1354334762 16495 :hagb4rd2!~perdito@koln-5d81f7ce.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the other hand: who is typing urls anyway? < 1354334876 262655 :hagb4rd2!~perdito@koln-5d81f7ce.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i know it was my stupid idea :) < 1354334903 314980 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do type URLs sometimes. < 1354334946 763083 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :However even though with HTTP generally (not always) the directory/filename is the URL, still HTTP doesn't have the option to list the files, so you have to instead output a HTML or XML file or whatever which list them. < 1354334958 41620 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I am usually typing in the URL if I want one. < 1354334970 200984 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :WebDAV probably has a standard way to list them < 1354335018 5656 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it does, I don't know. < 1354335028 791514 :hagb4rd2!~perdito@koln-5d81f7ce.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's right. file listing is not allowed by default.. or better say route listing (which could be an option in the future) < 1354335038 858359 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want file listing, use FTP < 1354335070 850778 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And for menus in general, you can use gopher. < 1354335080 487625 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1354335095 482231 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I suppose you can also use Plan9 protocol for file access is another way. < 1354335151 420930 :hagb4rd2!~perdito@koln-5d81f7ce.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh np, i could use even http < 1354335193 514259 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But if you want file listing, that is what FTP is for, not HTTP. < 1354335300 413761 :hagb4rd2!~perdito@koln-5d81f7ce.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: the issue was to provide a sitemap, to enable the user to browse hierarchical grouped data not beeing bounded to "old fashioned ways" beeing aware of where the data is physically stored < 1354335316 205458 :hagb4rd2!~perdito@koln-5d81f7ce.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know there is no such standard < 1354335318 548382 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In that case, that is what gopher menu is for. < 1354335430 740729 :hagb4rd2!~perdito@koln-5d81f7ce.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love the idea to mount anything as device :) < 1354335476 24536 :hagb4rd2!~perdito@koln-5d81f7ce.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :on which i could just navigate like on my filesystem.. that's it < 1354335518 170067 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What I think is programs should expose a virtual filesystem (if they have one) in their directory under /proc/ < 1354335549 276714 :hagb4rd2!~perdito@koln-5d81f7ce.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes that comes closer to what i called a route map < 1354335550 414670 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So process ID 666 might have a virtual filesystem under /proc/666/fs/ or something like that. < 1354335646 5772 :hagb4rd2!~perdito@koln-5d81f7ce.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1354335718 345078 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So they should make it, if you have environment variable XPID for the X process ID, to access X clipboard buffers and stuff like /proc/$XPID/fs/PRIMARY and so on, as if it is like ordinary files. < 1354335737 491768 :hagb4rd2!~perdito@koln-5d81f7ce.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :absolutely < 1354335744 945969 :hagb4rd2!~perdito@koln-5d81f7ce.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :now we're at home brp < 1354335757 416304 :hagb4rd2!~perdito@koln-5d81f7ce.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1354336094 579198 :hagb4rd2!~perdito@koln-5d81f7ce.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also this tree should relly be pretty much orgnanized by the logical context rather than by physical storage or sth < 1354336188 651700 :hagb4rd2!~perdito@koln-5d81f7ce.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the role in which the user behaves on the system might change the access (or even the structure) < 1354336376 370790 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPdzCZdvBp0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhACtJSCtq4 < 1354336445 722932 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354336563 899166 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi how did i know this would be return to the neverhood < 1354336594 790298 :hagb4rd2!~perdito@koln-5d81f7ce.pool.mediaWays.net NICK :hagb4rd < 1354336638 499692 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: are you psychic < 1354336652 19626 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would explain it < 1354336665 584226 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: or was it "bitter experience" < 1354336679 491981 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1354336681 30416 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the bitter experience of you telling me to listen to return to the neverhood < 1354336743 716938 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: yes that one < 1354337341 29003 :jfischoff!~jfischoff@c-67-169-45-161.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: jfischoff < 1354337368 243791 :jfischoff!~jfischoff@c-67-169-45-161.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354337651 59990 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1354337682 405098 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1354338722 788017 :oklofok!~oklopol@agw-sparknet.utu.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1354338940 696435 :oklopol!~oklopol@agw-sparknet.utu.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1354342289 155698 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the sample rate does not mean the delay wanted is an integer number of samples, what is the best way to modify the delay buffer to more closely approxmiate the delay wanted more precisely? < 1354343388 792376 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1354343854 700941 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example if the delay is 3.5 samples then how to make it closer to 3.5 rather than 3 or 4? < 1354344159 214430 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :apache is now disabling SSL compression by default < 1354344396 819923 :ogrom!~del@143.122.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1354344971 965627 :jfischoff!~jfischoff@c-67-169-45-161.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: jfischoff < 1354345428 848664 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1354345507 850099 :ifnspifn!~ifnspifn@184.90.25.102 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354345621 894240 :ifnspifn!~ifnspifn@184.90.25.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I were to build a program which just takes as input the Godel or "description" number of a Turing machine, along with an input, could the space of input for this program be correctly termed a "programming language"? < 1354345647 115663 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-43-239.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1354345650 467560 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you want < 1354345652 227507 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd say so < 1354345665 871601 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-43-239.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1354345665 983909 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1354345671 465770 :ifnspifn!~ifnspifn@184.90.25.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: well, would YOU call it a programming language? :P < 1354345681 183698 :ifnspifn!~ifnspifn@184.90.25.102 PART :#esoteric < 1354345689 723076 :ifnspifn!~ifnspifn@184.90.25.102 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354345693 163998 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd call it inefficient, have you /seen/ godel-encoded stuff? < 1354345718 313927 :ifnspifn!~ifnspifn@184.90.25.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have; this isn't a practical project I'm planning on doing < 1354345783 279329 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1354345871 461643 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hasn't seen godel-encoded stuff
< 1354345899 376459 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know how it works, right? code up something to encode strings or w/e and see for yourself < 1354345903 360841 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hope you have bignums! < 1354345940 915943 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :godel encoded programs are shorter than brainfuck programs if they use a good encoding < 1354346083 4167 :ifnspifn!~ifnspifn@184.90.25.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo__: here's the reference I've been using: http://mathworld.wolfram.com/GoedelNumber.html < 1354346115 323775 :ifnspifn!~ifnspifn@184.90.25.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I've got a few ideas in mind :D if it works out, I'll share it here < 1354346146 727948 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ifnspifn: what ideas are those? so far you've just described the standard UTM definition < 1354346228 203405 :ifnspifn!~ifnspifn@184.90.25.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Well, I was going to go a few levels above just natural numbers, mostly for novelty/interest; in particular, I'm planning on making an interpreter which will read regular english words (e.g. an essay) and return a reasonably large godel number < 1354346256 485702 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :most probably won't correspond to valid programs, you realize < 1354346261 655154 :ifnspifn!~ifnspifn@184.90.25.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :definitely < 1354346303 206760 :ifnspifn!~ifnspifn@184.90.25.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for demonstrative purposes, I'll start with some simple machine (Fibonacci, etc) have a dict.txt file and choose adequate words randomly < 1354346324 869185 :ifnspifn!~ifnspifn@184.90.25.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :from there it might be the case that I can prune a somewhat sensible selection of words, but that's not necessary < 1354346379 468678 :ifnspifn!~ifnspifn@184.90.25.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if my text-to-natural number converter is flexible enough though, it should be possible to get a meaningful english snippet < 1354346541 123061 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1354346584 697252 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :any particular reason you're involving godel coding? < 1354346857 109449 :ifnspifn!~ifnspifn@184.90.25.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly because it's neat, and an interesting way to represent a TM < 1354346910 328121 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's not just for TMs, it's for arbitrary strings of integers < 1354346915 591252 :iamcal!u1110@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vuojncesvqtsrpww JOIN :#esoteric < 1354346936 666561 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1354346992 885135 :ifnspifn!~ifnspifn@184.90.25.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :definitely! I actually started learning about its application to his Incompleteness theorems long before I started programming < 1354347019 911139 :ifnspifn!~ifnspifn@184.90.25.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the numbering system, although far from practical, has always struck me as very elegant < 1354347039 691763 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you might be interested in looking at optimal coding < 1354347087 607508 :ifnspifn!~ifnspifn@184.90.25.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, funny you mention that. I'm currently in an introductory abstract algebra class, and got waaaaay over my head in Shannon's work with groups and coding < 1354347119 863562 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can find shannon's big paper on communication online somewhere, though it's a bit old now < 1354347187 806856 :ifnspifn!~ifnspifn@184.90.25.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll definitely check it out. I suppose the foundational papers are usually a good place to start, considering how technical the modern coding schemes are < 1354347200 733368 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :stuff like huffman coding is pretty easy to understand < 1354347233 843341 :ifnspifn!~ifnspifn@184.90.25.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah, I've got most of the basic schemes down < 1354347257 273224 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shannon's paper is just about information entropy and stuff iirc, fundamental but hasn't changed much < 1354347286 73302 :ifnspifn!~ifnspifn@184.90.25.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this stuff though? *whoosh* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_Golay_code < 1354347333 143461 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :things like "twelve-dimensional subspace" aren't nearly as scary as they look. just persevere, it'll make sense soon < 1354347437 281776 :ifnspifn!~ifnspifn@184.90.25.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good advice, thanks :) < 1354347454 304443 :ifnspifn!~ifnspifn@184.90.25.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know my linear algebra has been neglected for one too many semesters.. < 1354347471 830068 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.172 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354347486 136619 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you should follow up your godel thing with representing tms as infinite-dimensional matrices, just to practice your linear shit < 1354347651 991676 :ifnspifn!~ifnspifn@184.90.25.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :trying to imagine how that representation applies.. an infinite dimensional matrix would correspond to a TM's (potentially) infinite string, where each "digit" is a vector? < 1354347708 491377 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, just to computable functions (note that I'm tired and not thinking this through) < 1354348845 12450 :Tod-Autojoined!~Tod@166-70-93-209.ip.xmission.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1354348876 871813 :TodPunk!~Tod@166-70-93-209.ip.xmission.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1354349160 945722 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are plenty of operations such that a `op` a = a + 1 but a `op` non-a is not necessarily a+1 < 1354349182 835294 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :f(a, b) = log_2 (2^a + 2^b) is one, but there's another < 1354349193 546516 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :f(a, b) = (a+b)/2 + 1 < 1354349235 99907 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about f such that f(a,a) = a+1 but f(a,b) = 37 < 1354349292 866755 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where a!=b ? < 1354349300 552008 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1354349350 844191 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also f(a,b) = a+1 for all a and all b except when a=0 and b=1; f(0,1) = 0 < 1354349378 457281 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lots of easy ones, but ... there's something more interesting about the two I named, I think < 1354350552 115456 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1354350596 302492 :sebbu!~sebbu@83.194.57.239 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354350596 375824 :sebbu!~sebbu@83.194.57.239 QUIT :Changing host < 1354350596 375952 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1354350638 362146 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1354351376 982041 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354351661 161821 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1354351668 696556 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-67-216.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354351818 261344 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1354351889 406046 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-67-216.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1354352334 407740 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1354352377 684473 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1354352511 993062 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354352539 734978 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: asleep < 1354354768 323598 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre NICK :whitef < 1354354878 170167 :whitef!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre NICK :Nisstyre < 1354355135 186226 :ssue!u5338@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pybjuirubotjhxik QUIT :*.net *.split < 1354355137 547403 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1354355139 6294 :rodgort!~rodgort@li125-242.members.linode.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1354355278 69584 :ssue!u5338@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pybjuirubotjhxik JOIN :#esoteric < 1354355278 179453 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1354355278 179617 :rodgort!~rodgort@li125-242.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1354357666 712903 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1354357770 915462 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.pltgames.com/competition/2012/12 cue the brainfuck derivatives < 1354358210 13854 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it really list Befunge as a turing tarpit? < 1354358253 792816 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Do you feel like living in a tar pit? < 1354358254 347794 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: there is always a dumb fuck? < 1354358275 974556 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: There's no call for that sort of language, young ma... uh... bot! < 1354358276 668031 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: it doesn't output anything. either it has to < 1354358383 750423 :ifnspifn!~ifnspifn@184.90.25.102 QUIT :Quit: ifnspifn < 1354358816 134307 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/REVERSE This reminds me of unefunge < 1354359070 149547 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unefunge programs tend to be so >a#Eb#Dc#Cd#Be#A_-y. < 1354359106 665516 :Deewiant!~deewiant@109.75.188.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Use semicolons, be happier < 1354359147 266268 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are probably really few (if any) bidirectional pieces of code in fungot. < 1354359148 147186 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: and subtle cough too, sort of reminiscent of " the little schemer is a good approach < 1354359160 709676 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(There are also no semicolons.) < 1354359239 78663 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(There are three j's, and they're all jump tables.) < 1354359253 780547 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354359275 762066 :arcatan!arcatan@hilla.kapsi.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1354359325 246894 :Deewiant!~deewiant@109.75.188.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Your style is too maintainable, you should be crisscrossing all over the place < 1354359390 445042 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: It's just because I'm so stuck in the 93s. < 1354359424 706042 :Deewiant!~deewiant@109.75.188.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you were actually stuck in the 93s you'd be forced to crisscross due to having only 80x25 space < 1354359457 926134 :Deewiant!~deewiant@109.75.188.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have to use semicolons, in fact it's better if you don't because they make it too easy < 1354360073 114963 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354360682 83700 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354361279 50676 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm mentally stuck, not physically stuck. < 1354361325 797715 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I just naturally avoid the actually-new features, not things like increased playfield size. < 1354361339 145479 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I have any [] turnings in there either. < 1354361394 648167 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, there's one. < 1354361429 225009 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's actually just a combined v and ^. < 1354361494 824281 :sirdancealot8!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1354364464 329114 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1354364907 648139 :mekeor!~user@dslb-092-075-081-074.pools.arcor-ip.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354364976 872781 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :being physically stuck in 1993 must be weird < 1354365034 937550 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you somehow sent back one year every year? or do you stay young forever? < 1354365767 410633 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't know; I'm not stuck that way. < 1354366484 492928 :sirdancealot7!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1354367574 586567 :mekeor!~user@dslb-092-075-081-074.pools.arcor-ip.net QUIT :Quit: cu < 1354372171 953029 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24.52.224.101 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354373302 165354 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1354373738 790117 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.40.18 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354374783 871762 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1354375143 894536 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is some awful keming on Chromium's part: http://slbkbs.org/keming.png < 1354375230 287334 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or is it an Unicom? < 1354375244 565340 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it related to the Farnicorn? < 1354375271 847782 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: The HTML source says Unicorn < 1354375956 53921 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION shivers at the horribly blurry font rendering in the screenshot
< 1354376247 752150 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, shouldn't horrible keming be good kerning? < 1354376286 168813 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe that's true. < 1354377026 169754 :SPYGAME!~SPYGAME@182.178.234.220 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354377249 932332 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24.52.224.101 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1354377372 985921 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: fyi i was sleeping when you said it was tomorrow < 1354377407 401471 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is understandable i guess < 1354378222 140347 :SPYGAME!~SPYGAME@182.178.234.220 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1354378252 66367 :myndzi\!myndzi@174-31-191-131.tukw.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354378259 347901 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1354378261 154844 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1354378303 602220 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf JOIN :#esoteric < 1354380113 999661 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0262018462/ < 1354380377 471841 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ghc -e 'import System.Random' -e 'putStr . map ("╱╲"!!) . randomRs (0,1) =<< newStdGen' < 1354380567 7043 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1354380687 214093 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :> chr 205.5 < 1354380725 154147 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Halfway between Í and Î? < 1354380750 746055 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1354380907 851580 :jfischoff!~jfischoff@c-67-169-45-161.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354381050 296222 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:C64_Petscii_Charts.png < 1354381188 682130 :jfischoff!~jfischoff@c-67-169-45-161.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1354381300 61545 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i see RND(1) returns a float between 0 and 1 < 1354381317 114898 :ogrom!~del@143.122.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee QUIT :Quit: Left < 1354381348 888453 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://dl.dropbox.com/u/113389132/Misc/c64-8x8.png I made this once for an "ASCII-compatible" "C64-inspired" "high half is mostly line-drawing" thing. < 1354381520 441533 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've forgotten what the £ is there for. < 1354381540 2511 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some of the last characters are slightly application-specific, too. < 1354381598 970637 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the book contains an equivalent program written in http://esolangs.org/wiki/PATH as well < 1354382457 968302 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354382461 603967 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1354382495 212933 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523 < 1354382502 842756 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: hi < 1354382942 506267 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: "Windwoes" < 1354382964 489113 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that’s what lead to my comment. < 1354382991 738670 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: yes. but then I repeated it! < 1354382992 115237 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Windwhoas < 1354383420 991025 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Oh, they were just being political. < 1354383819 634861 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :╱╲ ╲ ╱╲ ╱╲ ╲ ╱ ╱ ╱╲ ╱╲ ╱╲ < 1354383820 55809 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :╲ ╲ ╲ ╱ ╱╲ ╲╱╲ ╲╱╲ ╲╱╲ ╲ ╲╱╲ ╲╱╲ ╲╱ ╲╱ ╱ ╱ ╲╱ ╲╱ ╱ < 1354383823 179874 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :buh < 1354383835 720934 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :╱╲ ╲ ╱╲ ╱╲ ╲ ╱ ╱ ╱╲ ╱╲ ╱╲ < 1354383836 283179 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :╲ ╲ ╲ ╱ ╱╲ ╲╱╲ ╲╱╲ ╲╱╲ ╲ ╲╱╲ ╲╱╲ < 1354383839 799286 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : ╲╱ ╲╱ ╱ ╱ ╲╱ ╲╱ ╱ < 1354383849 292876 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I thought those were some kind of runes. < 1354383849 911252 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1354383850 841563 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354383853 634306 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1354383854 453565 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So did I! < 1354383858 543586 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes they do look runic < 1354383858 912281 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reminded me of Myst or something. < 1354383859 276072 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1354383863 51857 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, forgot the bottom part of the 1 < 1354383868 704293 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523 < 1354383880 44315 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking of a simple maze generator < 1354383884 478646 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: now make it work on the alphabet too < 1354383885 250966 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the 7 < 1354383904 264429 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :A simple way to generate mazes is to randomly print ╱ or ╲ < 1354383911 952095 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: WOW REALLY TELL ME MORE < 1354383936 850619 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that is what we have been talking about) < 1354383948 66017 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have? Where? < 1354383951 2526 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1354383952 116645 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :rigth here < 1354383957 278662 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't see that < 1354383958 94546 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought you were generating /// programs < 1354383978 303921 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: you can't make them longer on an actual 7 seg display < 1354383992 142538 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Should I go to http://www.meetup.com/Stripe/events/92206302/ ? < 1354383992 902210 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if all combinations of / and \ are valid /// programs < 1354384023 50992 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: do the whole alphabet < 1354384024 509933 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: Also those aren't mazes. < 1354384029 842681 :jfischoff!~jfischoff@c-67-169-45-161.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354384039 317465 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: shrug < 1354384042 590993 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably < 1354384042 834568 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Well, they aren't guaranteed to have a way through < 1354384054 753781 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or to only have an unique way through < 1354384086 409350 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"We're trying something a little different this time: while the hackathon will still be informal and you're welcome to hack on anything you'd like, we're encouraging projects built on top of Stripe Connect (stripe.com/connect)." < 1354384100 817360 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull, yes < 1354384117 124264 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless maybe you had, like \ on its own at the end of the file < 1354384126 510726 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and nothing before it < 1354384136 875655 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can also use "|| __" as the random characters < 1354384140 939647 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or other stuff < 1354384199 174415 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use "           " as the random characters. < 1354384203 936200 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :0020 SPACE [ ] < 1354384206 336087 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :00A0 NO-BREAK SPACE [ ] < 1354384212 995770 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :2002 EN SPACE [ ] < 1354384213 155069 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :2003 EM SPACE [ ] < 1354384213 226529 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :2004 THREE-PER-EM SPACE [ ] < 1354384213 226737 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :2005 FOUR-PER-EM SPACE [ ] < 1354384213 226849 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :2006 SIX-PER-EM SPACE [ ] < 1354384215 449748 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :2007 FIGURE SPACE [ ] < 1354384217 919504 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :2008 PUNCTUATION SPACE [ ] < 1354384220 535509 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :2009 THIN SPACE [ ] < 1354384222 933247 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :200A HAIR SPACE [ ] < 1354384225 688762 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, those lines were supposed to merge into one super-line. < 1354384226 354835 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24.52.224.101 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354384228 70533 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, well. < 1354384230 180161 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you should make a brainfuck derivative < 1354384248 934544 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: What, no 205F MEDIUM MATHEMATICAL SPACE? < 1354384262 512735 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I'm racist against mathematicians. < 1354384267 694664 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :space has a terrible power < 1354384279 506535 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :3035 IDEOGRAPHIC HALF FILL SPACE < 1354384279 862650 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :␠ < 1354384309 779889 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1354384316 959103 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: They all look like a single space to me < 1354384335 571304 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: Maybe you should put on your 3D glasses then. < 1354384364 229706 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are all a single space < 1354384373 129027 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :each of abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz is a single letter < 1354384402 632602 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I once heard U and I were together. < 1354384413 904336 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I guess that was just a rumour. < 1354384424 470120 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :OGHAN SPACE MARK is in the Zs "Separator, Space" category even though it has a line right through it. < 1354384429 551093 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :OGHAM, I mean. < 1354384460 54904 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the ETHIOPIC WORDSPACE is two dots, but at least it's Punctuation, Other. < 1354384492 883888 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354384526 972018 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz don't look the same though < 1354384534 274748 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: What about ᠎ < 1354384540 481319 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the spaces won't look the same either < 1354384543 100438 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you have the right font < 1354384556 731432 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm in a terminal. Monospace fonts only < 1354384561 265495 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1354384563 203780 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's yer problem < 1354384564 843578 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: In NetHack I used a configuration option that remapped ghosts to Xs < 1354384567 974547 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Instead of spaces. < 1354384572 483664 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"cheating?" < 1354384575 521806 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yes < 1354384587 237982 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :useful < 1354384622 829161 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: The MONGOLIAN VOWEL SEPARATOR is also whitespace, but at least it's empty. < 1354384674 326765 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I THINK YOU MEAN personspace < 1354384685 331215 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm still not clear on why all those emoji made it into unicode < 1354384707 17803 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: GREEN APPLE. < 1354384720 170387 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do they draw the line between "a nonstandard character encoding with a bunch of new characters" and "a strange binary encoding for both characters and certain graphics" < 1354384804 320237 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm going to invent ISO-8859-GOATSE where every codepoint above 0x7F is goatse < 1354384814 575507 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Committee members debate it, basically. < 1354384829 302585 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... So, you'll probably not get that through unless you can convince people it should be done. < 1354384841 419809 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In this case, Apple and Google proposed the emoji set initially. < 1354384866 76886 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1354384871 814750 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought they came from japanese mobile phone companies < 1354384883 296226 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :who were already using these characters in nonstandard encodings < 1354384891 26788 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's who made the characters in nonstandard encodings. < 1354384900 917193 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Google and Apple are the ones who wanted them in standard encodings. < 1354384901 284954 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see, and apple and google pushed for them to become part of the UCS < 1354384910 487208 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because they want to be able to compete in japan < 1354384921 83043 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody will use Android if they can't text their friend a PILE OF POO < 1354384928 208762 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup. < 1354384999 594812 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354385308 794084 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1354385360 189420 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://lambda-the-ultimate.org/node/4644 hey, rapido showed up on LtU! < 1354385452 73251 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: That's an innovative GHC switch, don't you think? < 1354385486 286868 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which < 1354385493 735479 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1354385513 881768 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: haha < 1354385627 997941 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: "I'm not sure what the goal (or point) of this document is, and how you evaluate whether it accomplished it or not." < 1354385632 942275 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :very good < 1354385732 258497 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently he wants a language with no runtime exceptions < 1354385777 179305 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, that's just a total language < 1354385793 628267 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You know the thing where State = Reader + Writer? < 1354385797 249362 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can, of course, represent division in such a language just fine... by giving it a proper type < 1354385842 828141 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :somehow i don't think he understands that < 1354386081 440130 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24.52.224.101 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1354386160 40444 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1354386416 253676 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(/) :: (Num a, MonadPlus m) => a -> a -> m a < 1354386507 159759 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: ITYM div :: < 1354386524 840945 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or even div :: Nat -> PosNat -> Nat etc. < 1354386683 663177 :ogrom!~del@143.122.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1354387010 400818 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :div :: Nat -> (d :: Nat) -> Positive d -> Nat < 1354387028 206402 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :look at all the types i know < 1354387042 925551 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm a bit curious what he even means by "destroying information" < 1354387049 219951 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: not the best infix operator < 1354387052 308864 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, is 14/2 supposed to be distinct from 7? < 1354387642 898119 :ifnspifn!~ifnspifn@184.90.25.102 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354387833 265967 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1354387912 456955 :ogrom!~del@143.122.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee PART #esoteric :"Left" < 1354388080 52382 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.40.18 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i think he just means, "x * 0 = 0 is bad" < 1354388093 399128 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"0 but true" < 1354388103 59007 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1354388108 873331 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1354388192 481116 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl_: yeah but i'm trying to put more thought into it than he did < 1354389758 778023 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1354389764 734374 :Lumpio_!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1354390812 253179 :sebbu!~sebbu@83.194.57.239 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354390812 363185 :sebbu!~sebbu@83.194.57.239 QUIT :Changing host < 1354390812 363360 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1354391066 555943 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1354391106 239213 :sebbu!~sebbu@83.194.57.239 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354391106 351510 :sebbu!~sebbu@83.194.57.239 QUIT :Changing host < 1354391106 351650 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1354391398 784119 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.172 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1354391583 310964 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1354391669 912863 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1354392424 787451 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1354392577 335109 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : i'd call it inefficient, have you /seen/ godel-encoded stuff? < 1354392655 711340 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you _can_ encode things more compactly than using prime factorization exponents, if you want. it's just that prime factorization exponents is intuitive to think about, even if not efficient. < 1354392702 454810 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not for me, but of course that's very subjective < 1354392729 756835 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact we had a discussion some years ago about how to encode brainfuck programs bijectively to numbers, and you had to choose the coding carefully to avoid short programs giving huge blowup. but it is possible. < 1354392740 388989 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :did we ever come up with a viable encoding < 1354392848 28274 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think so. wasn't there this fibonacci base encoding of a list? < 1354392895 481486 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1354392897 573408 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically you took each value, wrote it in fibonacci base, interspersed 11 between them (which cannot occur in fibonacci base) and interpreted _that_ as binary. < 1354392914 339651 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's reasonably balanced between the list elements, naturally. < 1354392942 716945 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: um that doesn't work for a bijection does it < 1354392954 252980 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*fibonacci base beginning with 1 and ending with 0 < 1354392973 761800 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought it did < 1354392979 396490 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it does idk < 1354393000 63242 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm forget the * < 1354393017 147071 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think there were some small details that needed to be just right to make it a bijection < 1354393056 614337 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait maybe you just interspersed 1 < 1354393064 700953 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :since they were already beginning with 1 < 1354393085 578484 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and to reverse, you broke up the binary at strings of several 1's < 1354393169 981090 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm that encoding may have had some trouble with deep nesting, though. < 1354393208 298278 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :since there's a constant multiple of approxim. phi/2 for each level < 1354393321 557053 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I have had ideas about some encoding of brainfuck programs with natural numbers. < 1354393325 580485 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you could have that since all high bits are zero, they correspond to [] at beginning of the program, might be able to make it bijective. < 1354393368 804068 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ifnspifn: see above ^ < 1354393613 381238 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ifnspifn: you might also be interested in http://esolangs.org/wiki/Fractran < 1354393909 788181 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-67-216.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354393929 998572 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354394098 319811 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : I don't know if all combinations of / and \ are valid /// programs < 1354394116 818028 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-67-216.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"\" on its own isn't, I don't think? < 1354394122 635578 :ifnspifn!~ifnspifn@184.90.25.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Fractran's nuts... thanks for sharing! < 1354394139 812824 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure they are. there's a "if you don't have a complete command the program halts" rule. < 1354394147 882052 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ifnspifn: you're welcome! < 1354394182 50498 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and of course only the current command is parsed at all, since the rest can be changed at any time. < 1354394204 813517 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!slashes \ < 1354394207 506903 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1354394236 521118 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION randomly notes that fopencookie is a neat interface
< 1354395089 603393 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly JOIN :#esoteric < 1354395136 692455 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats FireFly -----###
< 1354395145 497385 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1354395167 660861 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why, hello there < 1354395172 759665 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :g'day < 1354397010 325465 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mate. < 1354397046 748611 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1354397051 769340 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Check. < 1354397076 495480 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: You should help me get IPv6 working!!! < 1354397177 657203 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Sum. < 1354397223 46893 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dim. < 1354397284 436600 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I can not fathom why it would not work. Does it work from irssi at all? If you, say, "/connect -6 -network Freenode chat.eu.freenode.net 6667". < 1354397307 697179 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Well, what I did from telnet was SSL-less. < 1354397315 770257 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I could set my irssi to non-SSL for a bit. < 1354397341 62175 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That /connect with explicit 6667 port should be SSL-less. < 1354397361 294014 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1354397364 597500 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Will that do my autojoins and so on? < 1354397366 224268 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm scared. < 1354397450 168169 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you have to run the autojoin macro manually after connecting? < 1354397520 944834 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I think with -network Freenode it should work just as if you would have added a temporary server to the Freenode network. < 1354397527 269935 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'm certainly un-sure. < 1354397534 125598 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I have to manually disconnect before doing that, right? < 1354397540 764697 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or it'll try to connect to both servers at the same time or something. < 1354397581 514129 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmmaybe, yes. < 1354397595 625779 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm still scared. < 1354397707 776568 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.172 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354397742 162140 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would be scared, too. < 1354397802 886622 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: You should try it! < 1354398159 73264 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm too scared to. < 1354398185 468097 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Colenses are "pretty exciting huh" < 1354398202 369179 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.172 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1354398287 691772 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Bulb, by the way. < 1354398315 548840 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-67-216.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, did you start the fortress yet < 1354398329 986028 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.172 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354398338 243404 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm waiting for fizzie to try it. < 1354398345 819958 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :atriq: How could he, with the IPv6 problem still unfixed? It's unthinkable. < 1354398387 503323 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: C'mon. < 1354398389 565453 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What could go wrong? < 1354398398 343933 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everything would catch flame. < 1354398407 237626 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-67-216.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought IPv6 didn't exist in the UK or something < 1354398427 507321 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: It'll be exciting! < 1354398547 48397 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Onion. < 1354398605 179602 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Router. < 1354398611 652738 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I foresee a problem here. < 1354398622 291959 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: would i be a better person if i acquired ftl < 1354398640 994611 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps it would be best to nip it off in the bud. < 1354398644 961971 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: IPv6. < 1354398657 616993 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(nothing like merging the conversations, right?) < 1354398660 951931 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: TEST IT < 1354398678 724108 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Problem. < 1354398680 692327 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: NOOO. < 1354398685 113290 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: No, but everyone else would be worse, so it would be a net win for you. < 1354398687 345726 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Child. < 1354398714 170624 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to say "killer", but I'm afraid it might have negative social consequences. < 1354398771 200276 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Do I need OpenGL for it? < 1354398836 8235 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yes < 1354398862 395372 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: TEST < 1354398865 693828 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: help < 1354398955 71325 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1354399029 411983 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: NEST < 1354399105 947367 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I think you need not worry about those kind of social consequences in this specific circumstances. < 1354399293 17447 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rainbow TEST < 1354399293 404175 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :02T03E04S05T < 1354399296 745681 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: DO IT < 1354399561 840211 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :No can do, I am suddenly busy with various important matters. < 1354399840 721223 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.172 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1354400159 814971 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a sudden urge to hide the bodies better < 1354400428 698620 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you disguise them? < 1354400460 933566 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean fizzie's sudden urge. to avoid negative social consequences, you see. < 1354400796 190156 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, in Dungeons&Dragons game I have idea what to do with the chancellor's dead body, which includes both disguising it and hiding it, and casting a spell on myself to forget it. < 1354400915 822983 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Therefore, I think hiding the bodies is not sufficient, live or dead. < 1354400965 27974 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1354401120 48618 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354402749 881144 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-67-216.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's so cold... < 1354402759 144957 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-67-216.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is my room so cold < 1354402793 120627 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1354402943 455072 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :atriq: winter is coming < 1354402981 414558 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-67-216.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh no! < 1354403017 664895 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, because your country hasn't invented insulation yet < 1354403030 655644 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :atriq, do you have the window open < 1354403035 672956 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :classic mistake, that one < 1354403058 330754 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(tip: Alt-F4 usually closes the window) < 1354403097 743102 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you're on a mac, then it's cmd-w < 1354403105 197714 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if you're on linux it's anyone's guess < 1354403115 559388 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ctrl-alt-del? < 1354403133 745628 :nortti!nortti@dsl-hkibrasgw3-ff25c000-52.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: ^C ? < 1354403305 564601 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-67-216.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^Q? < 1354403406 410040 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti, that's not even consistent on the command line < 1354403450 200224 :nortti!nortti@dsl-hkibrasgw3-ff25c000-52.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :atriq: ^Q is xoff < 1354403484 278826 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-67-216.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who knows? < 1354403485 392636 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-67-216.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :??? < 1354403544 617077 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-67-216.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1354403723 680096 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I sometimes use Ubuntu computer in FreeGeek, so I know at least in Ubuntu, close window is ALT+F4 like in Windows. < 1354403760 62494 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^w closes some windows too. < 1354403803 598969 :nortti!nortti@dsl-hkibrasgw3-ff25c000-52.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I myself prefer ^ak < 1354403929 232645 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1354404335 278013 :augur!~augur@69.140.133.153 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354404443 149578 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354404897 737618 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, temperature, you're _not_ allowed to drop below -10 celsius :( < 1354404934 474190 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been waiting for it to drop below 0°C here... < 1354404938 440954 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this is a weird ass winter) < 1354404992 637627 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Foreca is forecasting -21°C for the Sun-Mon night. < 1354405019 72834 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see -15 on tuesday. < 1354405079 577989 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Daily highs go -12, -9, -6 -14, -11, -7, -7, -6, -4, -5 in the ten-day forecast, that's not so cold. < 1354405105 183310 :augur!~augur@69.140.133.153 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1354405113 421825 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its -74 on pluto < 1354405130 217280 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :At that point just start doing it in Kelvin. < 1354405140 304800 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :199K. < 1354405145 531759 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :only -74? < 1354405151 59204 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wikipedia says it's 33-55K < 1354405163 266107 :augur!~augur@69.140.133.153 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354405164 447272 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pluto is having a heat wave? < 1354405179 907412 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, depends on the place i suppose < 1354405213 132627 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pluto doesn't have an atmosphere worth talking about, right? < 1354405222 886421 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't think so < 1354405232 317161 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so no climate. sucks < 1354405232 555646 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Pluto's atmosphere consists of a thin envelope of nitrogen, methane, and carbon monoxide gases, which are derived from the ices of these substances on its surface.[89] Its surface pressure ranges from 6.5 to 24 μbar." < 1354405256 959482 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the pressure is about like 0.15-0.3 pascal < 1354405270 78992 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :accordnig to like, different measurements >_>; < 1354405275 99865 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm guessing new horizons will make things a lot more certain < 1354405279 140791 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's not like we've been there < 1354405287 713655 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they did it with observations of occultations with stars < 1354405288 993371 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(by "we" i am referring to our robot slaves) < 1354405302 842781 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, i know, but that's not as accurate as just flying a barometer out there, is it < 1354405311 465783 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe our robot slaves will revolt and send us there. < 1354405313 30021 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1354405321 257293 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :one can only hope < 1354405324 549114 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think we're actually putting the spaceship in the atmosphere XD < 1354405336 165138 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boooooriiiiing < 1354405348 805554 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wanna see if arnold's cousin's corpse is actually there, from magic school bus < 1354405358 817166 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah you need to bore deeply to get to the interesting parts < 1354405389 515501 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :magic school bus had deaths? < 1354405403 515007 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what we need new horizons to find out < 1354405443 366641 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mind you i think i may have seen approx. 1/2 episode of that show. < 1354405550 310394 :jfischoff!~jfischoff@c-67-169-45-161.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: jfischoff < 1354405583 361542 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1354405638 866972 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :23:39:04 only -74? < 1354405641 870153 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :space probes are so cool, I'll finally be able to actually live through one exploring the outer planets < 1354405641 941428 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: i didn't specify units!! < 1354405653 662981 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean I was alive with Galileo but I was really young < 1354405656 480717 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :-74 degrees hird < 1354405693 26228 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and voyager 2 passed neptune the year before I was born < 1354405931 765719 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, uh what about cassini < 1354405950 245390 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i remember reading a book about space when i was little and there was a thing about cassini < 1354405963 537225 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :when it actually reached saturn i was like "holy shit it's the future!" < 1354406124 268045 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right!! < 1354406129 57357 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow I totally forgot about that one < 1354406145 482259 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION randomly notes that Planck temperature is perhaps the hardest to actually *use* temperature scale.
< 1354406158 871071 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember the pictures it took and everything < 1354406159 339947 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :planck temperature is some absurdly high thing, right < 1354406162 23689 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and all the news about Titan < 1354406169 966497 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 Planck temp = 0 K. 1 Planck temp ~= 1.4*10^8 YK. < 1354406179 38615 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Yes. It's in yottakelvin. < 1354406186 249140 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :an oft-used unit right there < 1354406191 894428 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the planck temperature is where they hypotheize grand unification right? < 1354406196 494740 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd use a larger SI prefix but they don't exist. < 1354406204 744219 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol. < 1354406214 588194 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: Among other things. < 1354406225 980420 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it < 1354406232 829114 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Combine SI prefixes if it is really necessary (even though you are not supposed to combine them) < 1354406237 907257 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gigayottakelvin! < 1354406250 466910 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah, it's not even a gigayottakelvin < 1354406255 320624 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought planck units were just where the theory totally breaks down < 1354406257 313125 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's about 0.14 gigayottakelvin. < 1354406268 592673 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not necessarily where some physically-significant thing happens < 1354406270 25584 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have used "decimicron" before, which is short for "decimicrometre" < 1354406272 716681 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Yuh. And then people guess what that means. < 1354406301 977029 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :With no justification, because why figure shit out when you can speculate. ;) < 1354406303 614309 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously what this proves is that 1.4*10^8 yottas is the biggest number ever < 1354406308 58781 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ultrafinitism proven by physics < 1354406316 40238 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but but but < 1354406318 38064 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :attoparsecs < 1354406318 573877 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And there are also some units that I don't like, such as "tonne", so we can use "megagram" instead, for example. < 1354406328 142652 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :10^3 K: weld; 10^6 K: fusion; 10^32: grand unification? < 1354406334 475892 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kilokilogram < 1354406337 630102 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: have you ever SEEN an attoparsec < 1354406349 252123 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1354406352 414234 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, wait, wait, i thought that at least some of the planck units do correspond to physical things, like with energy quantification and all < 1354406356 358165 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354406358 627891 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :urk < 1354406367 500167 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Beheheh. The peak wavelength emitted by a black body radiator at Planck temperature is also Planck length. < 1354406368 234547 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :look around you maths is off youtube now :( < 1354406378 114820 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooooo < 1354406383 653666 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Kilokilogram" can be used too, but "kilo" is already the SI prefix for "gram" (even though "kilogram" is considered the base unit) < 1354406388 185960 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think um... 1TeV is roughly equal to 11 petakelvins < 1354406395 359775 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oi elliott use your dvds and find out what the biggest number is < 1354406401 315253 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so like the LHC gets like 11 petakelvins < 1354406421 146992 :n2liquid!~n2liquid@177.18.110.104 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354406421 809109 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I'm roughly 50.5 attoparsecs tall! seeeee < 1354406429 956734 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5054356894457127152 < 1354406431 939768 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shorty < 1354406436 578944 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the barn-megaparsec is my favourite stupid unit < 1354406450 925408 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's actually a completely reasonable unit < 1354406455 562518 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Tonne" is confusing with "ton" so I think "tonne" should not be used. < 1354406458 706024 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: i think this means you may actually be shorter than me < 1354406460 579719 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is a first < 1354406493 466275 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Well, the derived Planck units are often quite reasonable. < 1354406495 308454 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, the hubble-barn is also a reasonable unit < 1354406510 337681 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: For instance, 1 Planck impedence is about 30 ohms. < 1354406535 422529 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh. < 1354406541 713957 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: wait how tall are you < 1354406542 199130 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the planck pressure, though... < 1354406552 874222 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, like 1.7m iirc < 1354406560 468417 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :less, even < 1354406565 433526 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :4.63309e113 Pa? Jesus. < 1354406566 931881 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`frink 1 attoparsec -> m < 1354406571 583518 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am like 5 feet 1 inch or something < 1354406577 806675 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i grew since the last time i figured that out < 1354406583 928226 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I'm 5'1" too < 1354406593 37604 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.030856775813057289536 < 1354406608 920740 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another thing you can do other than use metres and so on, is if the other units are wrong size, use other base units. So, such things as lightyear and so on, etc. < 1354406616 339412 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :planck momentum is reasonable < 1354406620 872640 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.4 petayottayottayottayottapascal? < 1354406637 200580 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.4 PYYYYPa is awesome. < 1354406638 183375 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :an attoparsec is like 3cm < 1354406651 63301 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :attoparsec per microfortnight is the best though :3 < 1354406663 46700 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bit over an inch? Huh. < 1354406665 888903 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :about a foot per second or something, right? < 1354406715 955203 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the dwarf fortress units are quite silly < 1354406726 737963 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're fahrenheit + 9000 or something < 1354406731 356724 :nooodl__!~nooodl@91.177.40.155 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354406746 109025 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like a cm/s I think < 1354406761 187200 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc, a lightnanosecond is about a foot < 1354406787 730930 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, it would be < 1354406896 923483 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.40.18 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1354407108 306064 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. Planck charge is also fairly reasonable. About 12 times larger than the elementary charge. < 1354407154 817531 :ifnspifn!~ifnspifn@184.90.25.102 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1354407160 383076 :ifnspifn_!~ifnspifn@184.90.25.102 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354407183 875685 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1354407190 281968 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_, you mean the coulomb? < 1354407198 717582 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the coulomb is not a reasonable unit < 1354407204 205147 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the charge of an electron < 1354407210 333958 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: No, the elementary charge is the magnitude of the charge of an electron. < 1354407212 685579 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is called the "elementary charge" < 1354407220 106739 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not even close to a reasonable unit! < 1354407230 294788 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's reasonable in many contexts. < 1354407259 70844 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought we meant 'macroscopic' < 1354407274 570556 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, fine. < 1354407308 629847 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's still more reasonable than most of the Planck units... I mean, shit, there's an SI prefix for that one. :P < 1354407346 438135 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a mere 1.8 aC. < 1354407417 75261 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :planck impedance: 29.979 ohms? < 1354407446 964069 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup. < 1354407451 785715 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a planck momentum too, it's not big < 1354407458 122267 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what the planck magnetic field is < 1354407497 303317 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Magnetic flux density? < 1354407502 12831 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :2.15 * 10^53 teslas says a quick google? ohgod < 1354407512 125092 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"215000 yottayottateslas" < 1354407526 637803 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :HTK's timestamps are in units of 0.1 microseconds. I've always presumed it's because it's accurate enough for each sample of 16 kHz audio to have an integer time in those units (unlike microseconds; one sample is 62.5 us), but nanoseconds would've resulted in too large numbers. < 1354407534 417126 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that's above the point where maxwell's equations go to hell and the vacuum becomes polarised < 1354407548 377248 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that happens at like, about 10^40 times less? XD < 1354407552 482183 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :polarised, n. really cold (it's cold at the north and south pole) < 1354407560 374276 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"megasecond" is my favorite usual unit, i think < 1354407560 761052 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or just make up new prefixes. < 1354407568 488828 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not any more *badum-tsh* < 1354407587 63394 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone once told me, they read they wanted to add another prefix "heva" < 1354407599 93872 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: might also be that they stole their time unit from windows < 1354407601 39510 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wasn't there a petition to make "hella" official, or something < 1354407606 900448 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats elliott for confusing nouns and adjectives -----###
< 1354407621 823014 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i liked the proposal for zeppo-, harpo- and groucho- < 1354407627 824729 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pfffffff < 1354407632 816025 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :link? < 1354407654 737251 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :n., n. separator between dictionary entries and their definitions < 1354407669 82908 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want "zeppo" because it is similar to "zepto" < 1354407670 785393 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well if we have hella, then clearly the opposite prefix should be heava < 1354407671 460083 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it may have been in either the feedback or letters sections of the new scientist < 1354407708 896736 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think they wanted "heva" one above "yotta" although I am unsure. < 1354407711 959016 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: I suppose it's possible, though I don't think it's a very Windows-oriented piece of software. < 1354407726 851578 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :itsymeter. yw. < 1354407734 263366 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've seen at least one "serious-looking" SI extension proposal. < 1354407754 176484 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have to add bitsy too < 1354407758 127663 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so then you can have an itsybitsymeter < 1354407758 764169 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :itsy-, bitsy-, teeny- and weeny- < 1354407764 477405 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=11984 *grin* < 1354407767 950396 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: fuck you i'm a disctionary < 1354407769 300857 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :an itsybitsy spider would be very small indeed < 1354407770 560912 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :polkadotmeter < 1354407779 304043 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1354407782 332098 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I am OK if you want to add other prefixes, whether it is "groucho" or whatever else < 1354407797 200154 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: is that like a book using discworld spelling conventions? < 1354407824 451155 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: who publsiehs the definitions around here < 1354407848 897795 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is also "myria" not used much anymore, although it is a metric prefix for a myriad (ten thousand). < 1354407930 664776 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Be handy for CJK folk. < 1354407950 939023 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(CJK all group numbers in myriads.) < 1354408007 86406 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I know that too. < 1354408022 764576 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that's probably where knuth got the idea, isn't it. < 1354408054 696605 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Client Quit < 1354408056 114385 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least I think so. < 1354408092 417311 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Angstro" has been suggested for 10^(-10). Perhaps to get rid of ångström as a separate unit. (It even has the "m" there.) < 1354408139 779582 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it would be OK. < 1354408165 619847 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :angstrometer < 1354408196 748801 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Don't know whether the suggestion kept the diacritics. At least å would be free for abbreviations.) < 1354408213 935485 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 åm. < 1354408227 975005 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, and then "angstrom" becomes short for "angstrometer". But yes you should use the lowercase a with ring above for this prefix (uppercase A with ring above is angstrom) < 1354408274 460466 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Make a list of these things. < 1354408296 242205 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then you also have 1 åÅ = 10 zm. < 1354408318 393971 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1354408320 594930 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose it does allow you to do that although I do not think it would be a good idea. < 1354408343 520685 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :One ångströångström does sound a bit silly. < 1354408362 531319 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION approves of the ångströångström
< 1354408415 315005 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though maybe that should be "ö¨å" (can't be bothered to find the combining char) < 1354408459 648739 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[ < 1354408460 740634 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> The excuse for not fixing this does not make sense. < 1354408461 281529 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What doesn't make sense is you. < 1354408461 642058 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :]] < 1354408461 906437 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:52: parse error (possibly incorrect indentation) < 1354408463 939209 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :-- ulrich drepper < 1354408473 43858 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fat_(m%C3%A5tt) < 1354408474 328416 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean an å with a diaeresis? < 1354408504 849455 :nooodl__!~nooodl@91.177.40.155 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ä you guys are lazy < 1354408509 756030 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Yes. < 1354408511 592152 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, 1 fat is 480 osmunds ... pretty thin fella this Osmund < 1354408524 613685 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ŕ < 1354408525 741537 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1354408533 247585 :nooodl__!~nooodl@91.177.40.155 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ĥ < 1354408537 449392 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is the equation for the Railsback curve? < 1354408556 201549 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Needs both, clearly, as otherwise that'd be a diphthong. < 1354408592 275926 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really, since öå doesn't become a diphtong in the first place < 1354408644 460849 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Bah humbug. < 1354408646 293578 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: unless you're very drunk < 1354408667 823793 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will diäresisize all vowels that are adjacent! < 1354408701 570037 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :föå en öål til föår föan < 1354408785 614892 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: or from skåne, probably < 1354408792 276710 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is why it's "oërjan" not "Ørjan". >:D < 1354408810 255617 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :øærjan < 1354408847 474459 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oërhöert < 1354408865 546602 :nooodl__!~nooodl@91.177.40.155 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does this: "å̈" look fine to you guys < 1354408876 359836 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl__: excellent plain a, there < 1354408878 600677 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it looks like you have some kind of growth on your head there < 1354408891 136544 :nooodl__!~nooodl@91.177.40.155 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's supposed to be... an a with an ö above it, essentially < 1354408906 820393 :nooodl__!~nooodl@91.177.40.155 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a + ° + ¨ < 1354408929 942648 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ǟ < 1354408956 599673 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl__: That composed poorly. < 1354408959 990821 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I blame my renderer. < 1354409053 989419 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.google.no/search?hl=no&safe=off&tbo=d&site=&source=hp&q=sk%C3%B6%C3%A5ne&oq=sk%C3%B6%C3%A5ne&gs_l=hp.3...122718.172765.0.173062.7.7.0.0.0.0.219.750.3j2j1.6.0...0.0...1c.1.T-0dj36Ttyc gives a bit of hits < 1354409353 48399 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: I think he meant rwbarton? < 1354409417 522047 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : Unless someone like ion wants to do it. < 1354409428 420073 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dunno whom he meant, but i was asking about it in response to that. :-) < 1354409446 648563 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :"someone like ion" might refer to you < 1354410133 285391 :nooodl__!~nooodl@91.177.40.155 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1354410697 315648 :nooodl__!~nooodl@91.177.40.155 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354411340 966029 :Tod-Autojoined!~Tod@166-70-93-209.ip.xmission.com NICK :TodPunk < 1354412333 375826 :nooodl__!~nooodl@91.177.40.155 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1354412408 742622 :n2liquid!~n2liquid@177.18.110.104 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you guys sometimes discuss about practical (albeit experimental) programming languages? < 1354412425 893269 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like Norwegian? < 1354412439 522642 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1354412453 876832 :augur!~augur@69.140.133.153 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1354412479 559909 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's some Finnish too, but opinions differ as to wether that counts as a language at all < 1354412483 275730 :sebbu!~sebbu@83.194.57.239 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354412483 347455 :sebbu!~sebbu@83.194.57.239 QUIT :Changing host < 1354412483 347624 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1354412499 926162 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :_programming_, people < 1354412513 98275 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :... shachaf started it < 1354412519 437968 :n2liquid!~n2liquid@177.18.110.104 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1354412526 34555 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if haskell counts, then we do. < 1354412545 200065 :n2liquid!~n2liquid@177.18.110.104 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, Haskell; what about new programming languages? < 1354412546 536360 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also some have had less esoteric projects, i recall Gregor's plof < 1354412549 62081 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net NICK :Sgeo < 1354412552 157201 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :n2liquid: Well, it's not esoteric programming, so *yes*. < 1354412564 270567 :n2liquid!~n2liquid@177.18.110.104 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or languages that extrapolate concepts like object orientation < 1354412619 854192 :n2liquid!~n2liquid@177.18.110.104 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Especially not stuff that's too focused on mathematical concepts < 1354412628 813780 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote oerjan < 1354412629 155270 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan says: i only do impractical things < 1354412646 946451 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :COUNT ME OUT < 1354412679 404917 :n2liquid!~n2liquid@177.18.110.104 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, is plof on the esolang wiki? < 1354412696 732956 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, because it's not esoteric < 1354412702 383495 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Glass is OO < 1354412711 694817 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, _maybe_ it's linked from Gregor's user page. < 1354412727 776350 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :n2liquid: Plof is more a research language than anything else. < 1354412728 891566 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, practicaal? < 1354412731 296687 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :glass is OO, esoteric, and also gregor's :) < 1354412734 837382 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1354412816 378569 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://plof.codu.org/wiki/ < 1354412829 243931 :n2liquid!~n2liquid@177.18.110.104 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, thanks :D < 1354413097 366216 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1354413131 869147 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :We do discuss experiemental programming and stuff too sometimes < 1354413191 195015 :n2liquid!~n2liquid@177.18.110.104 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been munching some concepts for a programming language for some time now < 1354413208 156639 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I suppose we also sometimes discuss completely different things too < 1354413208 847425 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i recall edwardk had a language project when he came here, although i think he's gravitated towards "everything fits better into haskell"? also everything edwardk is by definition the opposite of "not stuff that's too focused on mathematical concepts". < 1354413257 681974 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the same way, some haskellers seem to go on to agda. < 1354413262 726333 :n2liquid!~n2liquid@177.18.110.104 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's nothing bat-crazy like what's often explored in academic research projects or esoteric languages < 1354413266 375060 :n2liquid!~n2liquid@177.18.110.104 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, agda? < 1354413285 726404 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dependently-typed experimental language < 1354413338 396357 :n2liquid!~n2liquid@177.18.110.104 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1354413341 759247 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has there been any work on Plof recently? < 1354413354 749671 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mostly, I just want to read awesome documentation, even if the language isn't well implemented < 1354413365 340735 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why hallo thar, people talking about me >_> < 1354413377 190818 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the fythe VM for it was worked on in february, at least, i see < 1354413393 620493 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fythe was last poked at a few months ago. < 1354413405 670770 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's possible that I'm currently contractually obligated not to touch it, so I'm not :) < 1354413416 384979 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch < 1354413442 100824 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just for two more weeks now *shrugs* < 1354413467 223433 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1354413470 998998 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Fythe engine works great, and I have some neato ideas for making it work better, I just haven't bothered to finish porting Plof to it yet. < 1354413493 721055 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :What with my being distracted by silly irrelevant stuff like pursuing a PhD and making money and watching ponies. < 1354413494 108760 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :any relation to your ioccc entry? :P < 1354413500 401693 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH YOU < 1354413518 900986 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, *winning entry < 1354413603 131065 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^ < 1354413633 673729 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lest it's not obvious, my IOCCC entry has no practical application whatsoever. Anything to make it not suck would also make it unportable, defeating the whole purpose. < 1354413693 611601 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously. < 1354413750 311581 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what entry is this? < 1354413770 351579 :n2liquid!~n2liquid@177.18.110.104 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you guys think about LLVM? < 1354413773 114830 :n2liquid!~n2liquid@177.18.110.104 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just curious < 1354413798 221001 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: http://www.ioccc.org/years.html#2011_richards < 1354413914 1152 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that's... impressive < 1354413980 242294 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I happen to like LLVM, although I also think some things missing, such as supporting bytes other than 8-bits, and supporting ARM2 < 1354414070 289375 :n2liquid!~n2liquid@177.18.110.104 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know I wouldn't be into programming language design without LLVM < 1354414074 755465 :n2liquid!~n2liquid@177.18.110.104 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a given < 1354414097 654924 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the point of all this preprocessor stuff to make the source resemble dc code < 1354414289 617349 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :gregor: Is there a description of how the JIT is done somewhere? < 1354414444 922791 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: The description was in your heart all along. < 1354414719 915496 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg < 1354414731 700830 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that JIT is really amazing < 1354414748 682909 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it manages to hide the opcodes and stuff too, wow < 1354415133 763896 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hear if you listen carefully to the rustling wind on a warm night with a full moon, you can hear the sound of the JIT building ARM functions. < 1354415375 411862 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote omg that JIT is really amazing [...] I hear if you listen carefully to the rustling wind on a warm night with a full moon, you can hear the sound of the JIT building ARM functions. < 1354415378 496393 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :859) omg that JIT is really amazing [...] I hear if you listen carefully to the rustling wind on a warm night with a full moon, you can hear the sound of the JIT building ARM functions. < 1354415391 713919 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: TWO SPACES!!!!! < 1354415412 966144 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Two spaces are the devil. :-( < 1354415418 566644 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i checked with `quote, and the first example that came up had only one < 1354415432 763091 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: two spaces between the first two messages, I mean < 1354415440 585714 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: The GHC inliner is annoying me. :-( < 1354415441 339715 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you fix it? < 1354415453 438547 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1354415455 295054 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should probably read that one paper, _Secrets of the GHC Inliner_. < 1354415456 628535 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :683) Here in Scotland we have a rigorous and well-tested theory of brothels. < 1354415459 689154 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1354415461 27465 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1354415463 399127 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :341) How to make a tasty deep-fried treat: 1) Buy ingredients: Large vat of boiling oil, dry ice and a small Filipino boy. 2) Place Filipino boy in dry ice until frozen solid. 3) Shatter now-frozen Filipino boy into boiling oil. 4) Wait fifteen minutes, drain and enjoy! I have the weirdest boner right now. < 1354415487 276709 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :43) Reality isn't a part of physics < 1354415493 72241 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY THEN < 1354415500 568554 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`delquote 859 < 1354415504 518861 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Don't give in! < 1354415505 152501 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*poof* omg that JIT is really amazing [...] I hear if you listen carefully to the rustling wind on a warm night with a full moon, you can hear the sound of the JIT building ARM functions. < 1354415512 359299 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote omg that JIT is really amazing [...] I hear if you listen carefully to the rustling wind on a warm night with a full moon, you can hear the sound of the JIT building ARM functions. < 1354415515 899172 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :859) omg that JIT is really amazing [...] I hear if you listen carefully to the rustling wind on a warm night with a full moon, you can hear the sound of the JIT building ARM functions. < 1354415535 369577 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :½ fixed < 1354415536 456405 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, why did you do that < 1354415560 689150 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: the rules for [...] are even more complicated. < 1354415570 178709 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should use “　” and see if anyone notices. < 1354415571 238036 :augur!~augur@69.140.133.153 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354415613 286825 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1354415644 823191 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: elliott is a space nazi < 1354415654 444345 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :we don't want to annoy him < 1354415666 47860 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: the formatting rules shall not be broken < 1354415667 314756 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like in Iron Sky? < 1354415703 104862 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote bike:the formatting rules shall not be broken < 1354415706 330379 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :860) bike:the formatting rules shall not be broken < 1354415709 508550 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was just about to do that < 1354415719 932763 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm so uncreative. < 1354415725 134167 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So am I. :-( < 1354415730 695904 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`delquote 860 < 1354415734 161864 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*poof* bike:the formatting rules shall not be broken < 1354415736 169635 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :broken < 1354415737 96434 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is an appropriate THAT'S THE JOKE link? < 1354415749 423041 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the simpson's clip? < 1354415789 477797 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess that is the top google hit < 1354415796 933829 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: inliner? i hardly know her! < 1354415797 388034 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm going to pretend that apostrophe was supposed to be there. "The Simpson" is a nickname of a bigfoot-like internet legend, known for posting photographs of firearms with jokes engraved on them. < 1354415809 173280 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xECUrlnXCqk < 1354415835 192110 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: good point thx < 1354415854 513927 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ok < 1354415857 288374 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: what was that connect command again < 1354415966 592808 :Lumpio_!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi NICK :Lumpio- < 1354416262 772022 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1354416315 322048 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1354416438 516808 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan < 1354416440 109360 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :go wake fizzie up < 1354416474 414633 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: WAKE UP < 1354416543 655379 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it's december o.O late happy new month people o/ < 1354416567 156759 :augur!~augur@69.140.133.153 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1354416574 713139 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: go to finland < 1354416636 81190 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, is December now, and is Advent tomorrow, I think. < 1354416644 979895 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finland isn't real, elliott. < 1354416652 571030 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you actually know anyone who's ever been there? < 1354416661 338038 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finland is drunk Japan. No more, no less. < 1354416676 745054 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Drunk Japan + lakka? < 1354416685 726139 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, when you're drunk... :P < 1354416688 564443 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? finland < 1354416691 807749 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finland is a European country. There are two people in Finland, and at least nine of them are in this channel. Corun drives the bus. < 1354416699 43855 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I added some commands in my Csound plugin, including "meanfilter", "multiguide", "pairecho", etc < 1354416726 662908 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would appear the bus has got lost < 1354416751 280688 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "pairecho" command makes two delay lines which are allowed to interfere with each other and the amount of interference and output levels can be adjusted at x-rate. < 1354416759 458781 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION tried to read pairecho as something latino
< 1354416774 971727 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why? Do you speak Latino? < 1354416785 954236 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ladino's cool. < 1354416797 253822 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...it looks vaguely spanish. < 1354416811 957965 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy, elliott Fiora < 1354416813 813728 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah, oerjan only speaks onital. < 1354416814 924696 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is meant to be English. < 1354416868 394937 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: ¡orter edav < 1354417027 735142 :jfischoff!~jfischoff@c-67-169-45-161.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354417117 225246 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1354417219 3116 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1354417239 644175 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alright, I got insecure IPv6 working. < 1354417244 210032 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott NICK :Guest55032 < 1354417244 496033 :Guest55032!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :TODO: Get secure IPv6 working. < 1354417256 727557 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Guest55032 < 1354417257 39091 :Guest55032!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um. < 1354417264 553059 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo Guest55034 > Guest55032 < 1354417279 268312 :Guest55032!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott NICK :elliott < 1354417945 138586 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Comment on appelle un mec qui pilote un avion ? < 1354418066 526622 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :68060 > 55032 < 1354418088 540839 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> compare 68060 55032 < 1354418090 271208 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : GT < 1354418139 258995 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :λ> compare Guest55034 Guest55032 < 1354418141 698977 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :LT < 1354418143 657210 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :¡!! < 1354418186 628408 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What! < 1354418221 703884 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did that happen? < 1354418228 689746 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :let compare = flip compare < 1354418234 122882 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1354418249 81877 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :insidious < 1354418512 555278 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :data Guest = Guest55034 | Guest55032 deriving (Eq, Ord) < 1354418580 31612 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :data Comparing = Eq | Ord deriving (Eq, Ord) < 1354418625 565336 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :note to self do not ask questions < 1354418679 555379 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd be more impressed if he made it work in lambdabot < 1354418882 175267 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: You should set this channel -n < 1354418889 966061 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So elliott can spam it without joining. < 1354418928 836698 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i already did once < 1354418958 591219 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Also, you should kick me for spamming. < 1354418959 324634 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If there is Haskell library for defining moves of chess pieces, what should it be called? < 1354418974 33342 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Hlfdmocp < 1354419016 111547 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: twice < 1354419030 837550 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean the module name, not the package name, though. < 1354419157 459224 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Control.Games.Board.Chess.Moves.Class < 1354419168 508675 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1354419364 883207 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh gosh I got quoted < 1354419381 185451 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you've really hit the bigtime now. < 1354419383 81451 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@remember Fiora oh gosh I got quoted < 1354419383 309030 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice! < 1354419396 855261 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, lambdabot is for high-quality quotes. < 1354419398 60592 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@forget Fiora oh gosh I got quoted < 1354419398 295229 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1354419411 682620 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote fuck < 1354419411 838404 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorear says: [emacs haskell mode] not fucked up, just well documented < 1354419430 214057 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote duh < 1354419430 393041 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin says: a monad is just a lax functor from a terminal bicategory, duh. fuck that monoid in category of endofunctors shit < 1354419438 869581 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so Fiora has gone through two phases of initiation < 1354419450 992303 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :excessive welcoming and being quoted < 1354419454 849331 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is she going to have to write an eodermdrome interpreter too < 1354419458 532500 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :next up is the goat sacrifice < 1354419469 839631 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: no, no one actually managed that yet < 1354419471 13003 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yes but that usually comes later < 1354419471 566775 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i'm so up for that < 1354419481 574079 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how has yours been < 1354419484 150407 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: isn't that the joke < 1354419492 169826 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oklofok did < 1354419504 651630 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :she has to spend a few weeks agonizing over how to do it before she fails, though < 1354419508 715127 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean no *person* < 1354419516 988687 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i got bored/frustrated, turns out np-complete problems are annoying, especially when you look at graph rewriting and then look at thue and think "why" < 1354419531 985714 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: he just chose a different failure mode, known as "losing the source" < 1354419546 180412 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's an eodermdrome interpreter @_@ < 1354419563 44073 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Eodermdrome it's an esoteric language, or "esolang" for short < 1354419577 21538 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone whose eyes look like @ isn't sane enough to be told! < 1354419668 534009 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes I know what an eslolang is < 1354419680 295824 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no. it's /that/ one < 1354419681 408758 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the graph < 1354419687 257094 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one i was failing at, yes < 1354419702 902602 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: "what is an eslolang" < 1354419704 525926 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1354419713 998228 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did write a mascarphone interpreter when arc_koen was talking about it the other day, though. completely untested, as the gods demanded < 1354419736 841840 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry I'm like randomly being pulled away and things because I'm at my parents' house this weekend < 1354419747 880034 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :does this mascarphone interpreter have good call rates? < 1354419758 507802 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1354419778 266118 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1354419793 172002 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does that mean? if it's some subquestion of "is it efficient" the answer is still no < 1354419817 615125 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION notes strong winds above Bike's head
< 1354419846 985067 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have congenital joke-blindness, you bigot! < 1354419889 778153 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. i'm afraid you'll probably not survive in this channel, then. < 1354419896 64681 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. subgraph isomorphism is the hard one < 1354419899 158846 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1354419901 513016 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and graph isomorphism is the almost-hard one < 1354419918 240029 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i actually got the subgraph isomorphism bit, but the replacement semantics are not what i assumed < 1354420020 943504 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's the "some vertices need to have no extra edges" bit < 1354420067 27679 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, basically i didn't pay enough attention to the description and wrote it wrong, so, frustration when i found out < 1354421046 519933 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: So do you do the thing where you capitalize your sentences, but not the word "I"? < 1354421058 820915 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1354421079 892977 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1354421091 173704 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :if a sentence starts with I, do you capitalize the following word instead? < 1354421098 374381 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was wondering whether you do that on purpose or what it is that you do. < 1354421114 958080 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: I meant treating "I" as any other word, and capitalizing it like any other word. < 1354421119 906686 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rather than giving it special treatment. < 1354421131 612412 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I’d like to learn the reasoning for the special treatment of “I”. You don’t capitalize “You”. < 1354421152 96840 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably something to do with the venerable medieval lack of punctuation or spaces < 1354421152 722997 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :U don't? < 1354421155 682504 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :or “a” < 1354421173 620335 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: So it is a thing you do on purpose? < 1354421192 867888 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Yes I am guessing something like that < 1354421237 646863 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24.52.224.101 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354421262 152634 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, i capitalize “I” in anything more formal, but i find the exception strange. < 1354421283 225520 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i AGREE < 1354421290 335062 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i ONCE CONSIDERED DOING IT THAT WAY < 1354421302 726763 :n2liquid!~n2liquid@177.18.110.104 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree, but I just got over it < 1354421327 187301 :n2liquid!~n2liquid@177.18.110.104 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are enough oddities in my own language to be questioning english < 1354421333 85419 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Write All Sentences in Some Kind of Title Case < 1354421344 457713 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kanaya? < 1354421348 24796 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I read an article that suggested that the only reason “I” is capitalized is because printers thought “i” looked ugly. < 1354421358 162348 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bah, we should just capitalize all Nouns, as is the historical Practice. < 1354421364 367407 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :guys < 1354421364 528366 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nowadays printers have no free will. < 1354421372 758725 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a 1-2 ms ping to the london freenode server from my server < 1354421374 273441 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how wild is that < 1354421384 297238 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: that's what they _want_ you to think < 1354421385 414182 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Not particularly wild? < 1354421391 592490 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: the wildest < 1354421392 506787 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: fuck you < 1354421393 298867 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The same guys who thought you should move a subset of punctuation following a right quotation mark inside the quotation? Screw those guys. < 1354421401 255365 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Free Will is for Plebians, Peasants, and Fools. We educated Souls know that there is no such Thing as free Will. < 1354421403 170891 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm in San Francisco! < 1354421405 31918 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How wild is that? < 1354421410 812389 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is only the Dictates of Physics. < 1354421417 517096 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I am too. < 1354421421 702090 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :look at this shit < 1354421422 575394 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :64 bytes from sturgeon.freenode.net (83.170.94.214): icmp_req=1 ttl=56 time=1.06 ms < 1354421426 23102 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :64 bytes from sturgeon.freenode.net (83.170.94.214): icmp_req=3 ttl=56 time=1.16 ms < 1354421429 40682 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :64 bytes from sturgeon.freenode.net (83.170.94.214): icmp_req=4 ttl=56 time=1.15 ms < 1354421431 449448 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I looked for a taquería and didn't find one. < 1354421432 20739 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :64 bytes from sturgeon.freenode.net (83.170.94.214): icmp_req=5 ttl=56 time=1.15 ms < 1354421434 946952 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :64 bytes from sturgeon.freenode.net (83.170.94.214): icmp_req=6 ttl=56 time=1.13 ms < 1354421438 51921 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't tell me that's not wild < 1354421447 968211 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Where the heck are you in SFO that you can't find a taqueria??? < 1354421449 592849 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You seem to have some packet loss. < 1354421450 567954 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're EVERYWHERE. < 1354421450 900748 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ... How many lightmilliseconds are you from London? < 1354421459 977433 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I didn't look very far, admittedly. < 1354421462 641623 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: me, a while < 1354421464 32148 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :my server, 0 < 1354421466 434887 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it is in london < 1354421471 112790 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. Okay. < 1354421479 780725 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: you're a packet loss < 1354421490 583266 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though "a while" is not a quantity of lightmilliseconds, vague or otherwise. ;) < 1354421501 814923 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're a while < 1354421513 898888 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`frink 1 while -> lightmillisecond < 1354421514 991022 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24.52.224.101 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1354421521 106437 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: are you in san francisco san francisco or are you in epa < 1354421524 803759 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Syntax error: , line 1, near column 2 \ 1 while -> lightmillisecond \ ^ \ 1 error(s) occurred during parsing. < 1354421529 85545 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :epa gangnam style < 1354421537 485264 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: At the moment San Francisco San Francisco. < 1354421538 501201 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: shocking < 1354421559 36775 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1354421561 161248 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: San Francisco is the best San Francisco, don't you think? < 1354421561 579285 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :where abouts < 1354421579 383993 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: anyway you should help me get ipv6 working < 1354421580 662889 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Francisco_(disambiguation) < 1354421583 926346 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can connect to freenode via ipv6 < 1354421584 692481 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can connect to freenode via ssl < 1354421586 977572 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not both at the same time < 1354421627 876410 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :DUN DUN DUN < 1354421661 325588 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Are you doing a PhD thing in San Francisco? < 1354421679 958801 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I'm doing an internship thing in San Francisco. < 1354421699 969620 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1354421703 120284 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where? < 1354421708 158169 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oracle < 1354421730 475120 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it true that a soulectomy is a job requirement? < 1354421743 589704 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no < 1354421748 373977 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :most of my coworkers used to work at oracle :( < 1354421754 800790 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they must be zombies now < 1354421768 219568 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1354421782 279701 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Are they using Python? < 1354421786 35507 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a sure sign of being a zombie. < 1354421791 193547 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't understand < 1354421792 11420 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but, yes < 1354421806 287116 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have lots of coworkers now? < 1354421811 511408 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :only six < 1354421821 544603 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Six up from four? < 1354421831 305342 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :of whom five used to work at oracle < 1354421838 191659 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i suppose < 1354421841 308090 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :six down from however many it was before the zombies started munching brains < 1354421853 323033 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are four founders; i am employee #1 and employee #2 started two days after me < 1354421893 543503 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Public Employee #1 < 1354421908 728919 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's right < 1354422085 507669 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: My sister wants to move to Cambridge. < 1354422090 825176 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunately it's the wrong one. < 1354422119 30883 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do I persuade her that Mid-Cambridge, MA is the best city? < 1354422337 361906 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1354422339 294556 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shrug < 1354422341 710325 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not the best city < 1354422344 46081 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but pretty good < 1354422367 126087 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is your sister moving to the other cambridge? < 1354422381 89844 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think she wants to go to university there. < 1354422391 870970 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1354422712 442870 :n2liquid_!~n2liquid@177.18.75.243 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354422712 516248 :n2liquid!~n2liquid@177.18.110.104 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1354423174 852254 :ogrom!~del@143.122.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1354423327 866914 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Gnith < 1354424418 886639 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Once I read something by someone who capitalized every word < 1354424452 564013 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the !!!batch specification? I guess that's not every word < 1354424454 441863 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a book title? < 1354424472 157640 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I mean many sentences. < 1354424478 142533 :n2liquid_!~n2liquid@177.18.75.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :PROBABLY MY BLOG < 1354424495 614875 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not only that but the lines were also numbered even though the line numbers are not related to text items. < 1354424694 29908 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: have you learned lenses yet < 1354424700 589660 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1354424702 309160 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: there's a new thing on the block to learn < 1354424706 286828 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: co-lenses < 1354424712 275264 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :co-lenses < 1354424716 421093 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do co-lenses do? < 1354424726 14430 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: The dual of what lenses do. < 1354424838 445825 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It still doesn't help. Can you be more specific what its type and so on is? Does it make a category like lenses do? < 1354424938 126273 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lenses aren't really a category, are they? < 1354424951 675320 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lens s t a b = (s -> a, (s,b) -> t) < 1354424979 357756 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Colens s t a b = (b -> t, s -> Either t a) < 1354424996 132585 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, OK, a category. < 1354425001 254037 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But not a Category. :-( < 1354425013 737844 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :: ( < 1354425107 875449 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: you need a nose < 1354425109 474783 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :here: < 1354425109 548313 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you have the one with only two parameters instead of four, then there is the lens category (including the Category instance). < 1354425114 340310 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :⿐ < 1354425121 459755 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Yes. < 1354425145 484506 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: where is colens < 1354425156 142379 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1354425163 715984 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: it's projection < 1354425165 229674 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's called Projection in lens. < 1354425169 278596 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok :⿐) < 1354425178 667002 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: much better < 1354425191 444305 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice. < 1354425202 463055 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :目鼻口 < 1354425209 532662 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :：⿐） < 1354425216 426692 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wins
< 1354425288 628962 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1354425296 430006 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell elliott You know what you should do? < 1354425296 663512 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1354425342 676980 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :へのへのもへじ？ < 1354425599 395659 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1354425619 823221 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I have SSL + IPv6 working. < 1354425620 223670 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You have 2 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them. < 1354425632 372332 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's broken SSL certificate verification. :( < 1354425653 871483 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems to be a result of this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/irssi/+bug/573256 < 1354425665 717584 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: If you wrote a lazy syntax highlighter for Haskell. < 1354425672 976844 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I could work around it just by adding all the freenode servers I want to connect to to the irssi network rather than the round-robin? < 1354425684 362598 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: what should I do < 1354425704 511516 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ? < 1354425711 408213 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you sent me a lambdabot message < 1354425716 965929 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :21:21 elliott: If you wrote a lazy syntax highlighter for Haskell. < 1354425729 401505 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I might've changed my tense-thing in the middle there. < 1354425746 985263 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't want to do that < 1354425768 191749 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: but http://www.reddit.com/r/haskell/comments/144biy/pretty_output_in_ghci_howto_in_comments/ :'( < 1354425838 677452 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Edit 2: You will need to either :seti -XNoMonomorphismRestriction or give myPrint an explicit type annotation. I happened to have the former already. < 1354425857 796653 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shouldn't rewriting myPrint to not be pointfree work? < 1354425861 246015 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I don't care about that. < 1354425867 828154 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Someone bountied my stackoverflow answer! < 1354425872 283189 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do I get my points? < 1354425892 557550 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, or maybe they bountied one of the other answers. < 1354425926 456968 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or actually, nothing's wrong with a type annotation, right? < 1354425929 935038 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the points come automatically < 1354425950 879917 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the asker person didn't pick best answer! < 1354425953 681164 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is complicated. < 1354425965 376789 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it's assigned automatically < 1354425982 711026 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you should upvote http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9050725/call-cc-implementation/9050907#9050907 so my top-voted answer isn't to the question "How do you identify monadic design patterns?" < 1354426014 638439 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, you could get people to downvote that one instead. < 1354426017 924496 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm i don't even like how the latter answer words it at the start < 1354426019 988745 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That answer is long. < 1354426022 1894 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yeah but then i would lose internet points < 1354426054 776317 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: but how did you get a billion internet points without every getting more than 50 votes on an answer < 1354426065 178002 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :by writing 343 answers < 1354426085 87016 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1354426103 905160 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :writing one great answer that immediately gets a huge number of votes doesn't even help that much anyway due to the 200 rep cap < 1354426112 731888 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(per day) < 1354426144 284021 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is there a cap? < 1354426145 680727 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: are you there i need help with this certificate thing!! < 1354426150 615841 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: long story < 1354426173 172820 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :feel free to peruse the long and tedious history of posts at http://meta.stackoverflow.com/ if you want an answer < 1354426197 20343 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothx < 1354426816 279434 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: are you the ion in http://bash.org/?152037 by the way < 1354426820 802515 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :important questions < 1354426840 580551 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Nope. < 1354426843 345811 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've asked before. < 1354426857 662533 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nicknames should be unique! < 1354427189 13203 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should go read the Facebook TOS < 1354427335 849298 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"For content that is covered by intellectual property rights, like photos and videos (IP content), you specifically give us the following permission, subject to your privacy and application settings: you grant us a non-exclusive, transferable, sub-licensable, royalty-free, worldwide license to use any IP content that you post on or in connection with Facebook (IP License). " < 1354427345 947901 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do they need a transferable and sub-licensable license? < 1354427409 254809 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that they can grant reproduction rights to advertisers and other licensees and stuff < 1354427469 736863 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Honestly, I understand the rest of it, from a technical perspective < 1354427486 123947 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just in terms of showing photos to peoples friends when their privacy settings are set such, for example < 1354427517 40864 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You will not post unauthorized commercial communications (such as spam) on Facebook." < 1354427528 799169 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the main thing to get about facebook is you're the product, not the customer. the customers are ad companies and zynga and companies like that. the TOS is oriented to help the cusotmers. < 1354427556 530376 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How does one get authorization? Many companies have Facebook pages, which I can only assume are used for commercial communications < 1354427608 800712 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You will not use Facebook to do anything unlawful, misleading, malicious, or discriminatory. < 1354427608 911616 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :" < 1354427616 191701 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh. I'm not allowed to lie on Facebook? < 1354427655 116161 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :TOSs aren't exactly meant to be followed to the letter, it's just for legal cases and shit < 1354427673 283238 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Yup. So, if you're gay you better be out. < 1354427726 883536 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if "don't mislead" would cover being gay and not telling anyone. Since you're only "misleading" them in that they assume you're straight because that's the cultural norm. < 1354427749 889885 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Curses be unto heteronormativity. < 1354427773 721698 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION makes traditional hand gesture of agreement
< 1354427825 627950 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about April Fools jokes? < 1354427833 720720 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such as "just got arrested for drunk driving" < 1354427834 339753 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not actually misleading. < 1354427880 414351 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Had an April Fools Day where I was just posting statuses saying how I was going to a party, got drunk, had unprotected sex with some girl, and got arrested for drunk driving. < 1354427884 782282 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think anyone believed it < 1354427897 441594 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PART :#esoteric < 1354427960 828507 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You will not transfer your account (including any Page or application you administer) to anyone without first getting our written permission. < 1354427960 901363 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :" < 1354427980 386568 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That... seems annoying for companies. Unless the company is considered the administer the page, and not individual employees? < 1354428061 830314 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You will not tag users or send email invitations to non-users without their consent. Facebook offers social reporting tools to enable users to provide feedback about tagging. < 1354428062 12772 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :" < 1354428118 146080 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...how does that even work? The tagging mechanisms don't require consent, do they? And sending email invitations to non-users... um, it's an invitation, how do you get consent to send an invitation? < 1354428126 894233 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I think that that section is geared more towards developers < 1354428209 883577 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In a section for developers: "You will not directly or indirectly transfer any data you receive from us to (or use such data in connection with) any ad network, ad exchange, data broker, or other advertising related toolset, even if a user consents to that transfer or use." < 1354428230 974466 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's pretty blatant in terms of what Bike was saying before < 1354428234 302767 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1354428250 611264 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi!! < 1354428265 310457 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi elliott. helliott. < 1354428730 939217 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CALIFORNIA CIVIL CODE �1542 is useless, isn't it? < 1354428818 891847 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1354428834 678683 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hear monqy knows about california < 1354428838 174540 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1354428839 632961 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont < 1354428873 341303 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :From what the Facebook TOS quoted, it's a thing about releases (of liability I guess) not applying in all circumstances. So, all an organization needs to do to get a fully general release is say that the other party waives it < 1354428896 303432 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you still talking about facebook's terms of service jesus < 1354428943 43923 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I stopped. And didn't say everything I wanted to say, after you joined, because I figured that that's why you left < 1354428951 449573 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't let me stop you < 1354428962 122553 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if #esoteric said only things i wanted it would be a very different place < 1354429381 897286 :n2liquid_!~n2liquid@177.18.75.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... I see this channel is full of respectful people, eh < 1354429388 858422 :n2liquid_!~n2liquid@177.18.75.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's rare, really < 1354429581 148036 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I missed the train south and now the next one won't be for another ~1.5 hours. < 1354429685 450047 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :n2liquid_: we must be in different #esoterics < 1354429703 426965 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my esoteric is better than your esoteric. < 1354429724 31682 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1354429786 328722 :n2liquid_!~n2liquid@177.18.75.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I've only been here for this night, but it does seem peaceful < 1354430160 311888 :sebbu3!~sebbu@83.194.57.239 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354430177 212585 :sebbu3!~sebbu@83.194.57.239 QUIT :Changing host < 1354430177 285468 :sebbu3!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1354430208 301375 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1354430229 462310 :sebbu3!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1354430883 279181 :sebbu2!~sebbu@83.194.57.239 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354430883 392137 :sebbu2!~sebbu@83.194.57.239 QUIT :Changing host < 1354430883 392285 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1354430908 73382 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell fizzie does the client certificate thing work as good as sasl now that you're using it? with the cloak-guaranteed-to-take-effect-before-joining-channels stuff < 1354430908 244076 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1354431058 347669 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1354431105 418600 :Gregor!codu@codu.org NICK :BabsSeed < 1354431140 236238 :BabsSeed!codu@codu.org NICK :Gregor < 1354431679 360780 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354431733 123059 :Gregor!codu@codu.org NICK :TheSmooze < 1354435071 334853 :ogrom!~del@143.122.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee QUIT :Quit: Left < 1354435916 105746 :aloril!~aloril@84.249.126.153 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354436167 465142 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1354436411 756681 :jfischoff!~jfischoff@c-67-169-45-161.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: jfischoff < 1354436430 28381 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1354436632 335415 :jfischoff!~jfischoff@67.169.45.161 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354437922 316753 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.172 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354438251 907000 :n2liquid_!~n2liquid@177.18.75.243 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1354438343 403643 :jfischoff!~jfischoff@67.169.45.161 QUIT :Quit: jfischoff < 1354439339 224182 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1354439705 719096 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1354439761 903650 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1354440153 280307 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell elliott I haven't actually tried reconnecting after setting it up. It worked for the first time, I think, but then again I still had the server pass thing set up, and that works too most of the time. < 1354440153 633541 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1354441025 392380 :punisher00!~oumarnian@41.188.101.153 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354441286 289812 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354443107 539353 :ifnspifn_!~ifnspifn@184.90.25.102 QUIT :Quit: ifnspifn_ < 1354443191 739230 :punisher00!~oumarnian@41.188.101.153 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1354443239 695564 :ifnspifn!~ifnspifn@184.90.25.102 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354443339 234739 :ifnspifn!~ifnspifn@184.90.25.102 QUIT :Client Quit < 1354443707 785050 :ifnspifn!~ifnspifn@184.90.25.102 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354443714 922709 :ifnspifn!~ifnspifn@184.90.25.102 QUIT :Client Quit < 1354445624 113728 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354445672 389057 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354447710 731149 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1354449384 395998 :nooodl__!~nooodl@91.177.40.155 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354450273 196909 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1354451096 520812 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In fact, the odds of dying from a scorpion sting are one in 300 million. To put this in perspective: Your odds of dying by simply falling over in the shower are one in 65,000. In other words, if you find a scorpion in your shower tomorrow morning, the shower stall itself may still be the greater danger. < 1354451096 631765 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Read more: http://www.cracked.com/article_19171_5-things-that-arent-nearly-as-dangerous-as-hollywood-thinks.html#ixzz2Dtf6HJYx" < 1354451105 492322 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...screw you thingy < 1354451123 181786 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Am I allowed to facepalm at the misunderstanding of probability, or should I just accept it as a joke < 1354451137 554181 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1354451160 93345 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that 1 in 300 million the population-wide probability of dying from a scorpion sting < 1354451169 453249 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in which case: :facepalm: < 1354451184 733291 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It links to http://www.bookofodds.com/Accidents-Death/Death-Rates/Odds/The-odds-a-person-will-die-from-being-stung-by-a-scorpion-in-a-year-are-1-in-299-400-000-US-2006 < 1354451256 954911 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::facepalm: < 1354451301 683658 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It could still be true, I guess, but there's not enough information. < 1354458115 983548 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: The reason why the odds of dying from a scorpion sting are so low is that scorpions don't live in most places that people do < 1354458134 843374 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :If there is actually a scorpion there, your odds definitely go up < 1354458514 990187 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes well done FreeFull < 1354458572 763761 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :your ability to state what everyone else had already implicitly figured out is truly a boon to the channel < 1354458693 729818 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well I am Captain Obvious, if that's not obvious < 1354458823 558451 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :please stop being captain obvious then < 1354459285 158117 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24.52.224.101 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354459882 38234 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1354460074 657736 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354461358 477146 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter JOIN :#esoteric < 1354461653 733728 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1354461688 66258 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter JOIN :#esoteric < 1354465288 24373 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1354465373 658882 :yours_truly!~yours@c-208-90-102-250.netflash.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354466011 263461 :yours_truly!~yours@c-208-90-102-250.netflash.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1354466523 861178 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric : please stop being captain obvious then <-- who should be captain obvious then? < 1354466543 336087 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this isn't a boat! < 1354466548 518671 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we don't need any captains < 1354466565 970227 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then the discussion can go astray. < 1354466566 126676 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1354466582 812925 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, I always thought of Captain Obvious like a superhero, like Captain America or whatever < 1354466593 737462 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I'm curious as to what was originally intended in that phrase < 1354466607 81393 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mutiny < 1354466608 6110 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Captain Planet. < 1354466614 353150 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah like that < 1354466627 572218 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lt. Cmdr. Obvious < 1354466645 345947 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"By your inanities combined, I am Captain Obvious!" < 1354466669 853088 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter PRIVMSG #esoteric :not a boat? I though I was aboard to cookieland < 1354466677 908754 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1354466693 680516 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a spaceship to the planet of anticookies < 1354466707 121921 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter PRIVMSG #esoteric :8O < 1354466712 461645 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :then we obviously need a Captain Obvious < 1354466721 12152 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck captain planet < 1354466734 692446 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: imo you should do some testing & also help me out w/ my new ssl problem < 1354466734 848973 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1354466738 398536 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i solved ssl+ipv6) < 1354466739 687783 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1354466739 834353 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie said 7h 23m 7s ago: I haven't actually tried reconnecting after setting it up. It worked for the first time, I think, but then again I still had the server pass thing set up, and that works < 1354466739 912187 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :too most of the time. < 1354466754 473266 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :his agenda of taking pollution "down to zero" puts one in mind of the fanatical de-industrialization agenda of the khmer rouge < 1354466799 12290 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :#esoteric, number one channel for sociopolitical analysis of captain planet < 1354466816 410334 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: did you make it to a train < 1354466818 878454 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :captain planet throws gi in a labour camp because she looks too intellectual < 1354466826 675309 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or did you just have to run along the tracks at high speed yelling "CHOO CHOO MOTHERFUCKER" < 1354466844 434666 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(thank you wikipedia for that one) < 1354466882 999647 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, heh what? < 1354466917 54817 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :also who is gi? < 1354466924 225974 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have never seen captain planet or indeed heard of it beyond 80s pop culture references < 1354466931 167157 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :same here < 1354466955 433869 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have watched it, it was broadcast in Finland. < 1354466966 262459 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes fizzie but you are old! < 1354466968 79196 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in college we had a house office named "captain planet" < 1354466979 568559 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they were charged with taking care of all the living things in the house < 1354466981 895485 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :primarily the hot tub < 1354467003 354751 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is that living < 1354467007 162828 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: It was also made in 1990-1996, so it's curious it appears in 80s pop culture. < 1354467028 377272 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything before ~1998 is '80s' to me < 1354467028 876200 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a complex ecosystem < 1354467040 972038 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, is it like the it crowd rainforest < 1354467046 514442 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haven't seen < 1354467099 447042 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Helsinki University has a greenhouse warmed by computer exhaust heat on top of the Exactum building. < 1354467111 906690 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ct1-zq8gf_0 < 1354467119 312676 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: nice < 1354467122 618135 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmmfmYID1Yw -- you can see it there. < 1354467146 481000 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or you can see the rack, but the vaguely transparent plastic thing behind it is a greenhouse. < 1354467200 729259 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I saw the link somewhere a while ago.) < 1354467244 930191 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh he has a shirt with the pac man kill screen < 1354467307 194930 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, the it crowd is good with having actual nerdy references in the background < 1354467385 699614 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are some eff posters around the place too, and a picture of bob dobbs < 1354467432 46502 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1354467442 761141 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'This show's like "The Big Bang Theory" except it doesn't suck a Big Franch Dick.' < 1354467447 609036 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well put, random youtube idiot < 1354467486 865033 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(franch, as everyone knows, is a condiment composed of a mixture of french and ranch dressing) < 1354467497 705155 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even assuming that's a baffling typo for french, since when were french dicks known for their size? < 1354467531 579998 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well if they were, the adjective wouldn't be necessary < 1354467544 979664 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :insert coq joke here < 1354467591 738980 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'Twenty years ago, I wrote a comedy in which a scientist accidentally kills God and feels really terrible about it. Meanwhile, his former lab assistant goes on to fame and fortune by inventing something called "Franch" -- a salad dressing that's half-French, half-ranch.' < 1354467614 133665 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmmfmYID1Yw -- you can see it there. <--- lol what? < 1354467618 898424 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :servers out in the open? < 1354467621 438298 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :whaaaat < 1354467626 283745 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: It's not out in the open. < 1354467631 28549 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looks like it? < 1354467632 420406 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well they do have that cubicle thing < 1354467635 904849 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: There's a transparent plastic in front of the rack. < 1354467659 73585 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: But yes, it's a "Experimental Free Air Cooling setup". < 1354467692 937790 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, looks like he is removing snow directly from the servers but oh well < 1354467734 591881 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, what are they talking about btw? < 1354467751 386244 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a translation in the comments, though it's a bit off. < 1354467755 577567 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Person 1: this is a really stupid idea" "Person 2: No no, it will just work" < 1354467764 895636 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Person 1: you idiot" < 1354467783 695269 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354467799 109139 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's something like "Here is Mikko doing server administration." "Works well!" "And that's how we do a little clean" < 1354467819 575656 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :reminds me of http://www.afrotechmods.com/ < 1354467857 37890 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in particular http://www.afrotechmods.com/papercooling.htm < 1354467875 15873 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-6F8oAMFyZtk/T2iGlBvcFaI/AAAAAAAACVs/GJwiMc8Oo94/s1152/IMG_20120320_145825.jpg shows the other side of the rack. < 1354467895 932337 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, it might become too cold for the servers as well hm < 1354467921 90347 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: The blog mentions they haven't had any problems at -30 degrees Celsius or so. < 1354467923 15440 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1354467926 379636 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this page is as old as kmc < 1354467928 527693 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1354467944 620658 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1354467985 982022 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Most of their computer centers are more traditional, I think this is more of a hobby experiment. < 1354467999 308355 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://afrotechmods.com/stupid/memory/memory.htm < 1354468093 33262 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://totl.net/Eunuch/ < 1354468128 508879 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i forget, is that one of the things everyone's seen but some twat always posts it) < 1354468169 770315 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :why doesn't the heat of the servers melt the snow and create horrible water problems? < 1354468236 232672 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: That's exactly what one of the comments asked, I think. < 1354468249 778694 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have any sort of answer. < 1354468270 58126 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except that water flows down, I suppose you can sort of guide it elsewhere. < 1354468291 761978 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose it could be cold enough that nothing in the server is above freezing < 1354468296 261206 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The linked blog has a lot of content about the design of the box around it. < 1354468339 802748 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The snow is going to melt before summer, anyway, so I'm sure they've considered water. < 1354468350 251047 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, it sometimes rains. < 1354468762 504326 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if a moose tries to eat the servers < 1354468807 305461 :arcatan!arcatan@hilla.kapsi.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :the servers are on the roof of the university building, so no mooses there (hopefully) < 1354468859 250588 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1354469210 337305 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1354469260 204061 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric < 1354469461 500121 :jfischoff!~jfischoff@c-67-169-45-161.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354470523 379927 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354471386 519807 :jfischoff!~jfischoff@c-67-169-45-161.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: jfischoff < 1354471405 999840 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1354471969 743056 :jfischoff!~jfischoff@c-67-169-45-161.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354472270 870344 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-30.elisa.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1354472345 404533 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-30.elisa.ee PART :#esoteric < 1354473774 53469 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-43-239.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1354473774 163491 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-43-239.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1354473774 163633 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1354473983 289815 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1354474072 615043 :jfischoff!~jfischoff@c-67-169-45-161.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: jfischoff < 1354474226 442032 :jfischoff!~jfischoff@c-67-169-45-161.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354474308 899415 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1354474364 211452 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1354475006 292704 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oi elliott < 1354475031 127009 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you by any chance done that thing you've claimed you'll do for like a week < 1354475197 101575 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tonight < 1354475197 850645 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :promise < 1354475199 592619 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bug me < 1354475226 370610 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's already tonight! < 1354475313 839435 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's evening! < 1354475328 344132 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm you may have a point there < 1354475339 996809 :ifnspifn!~ifnspifn@184.90.25.102 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354475687 803360 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I’m not. < 1354475702 132924 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: It’s a fake ion. < 1354475851 861309 :ifnspifn!~ifnspifn@184.90.25.102 QUIT :Quit: ifnspifn < 1354475865 130158 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: did you see that fancy new edwardk exported unsafeCoerce < 1354475930 687104 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw the paste, didn’t look at “vacuous” yet. < 1354475945 397031 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: the implementation is vacuous = unsafeCoerce < 1354475949 948238 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1354475956 646399 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because if you have a legit functor f, you can implement f Void -> f a that way < 1354475970 503551 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunately, people can lie! < 1354475975 232749 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1354475981 297091 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so (Functor f) => f Void -> f a actually means forall f. f Void -> f a < 1354475988 251491 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means Iso Void Void -> Iso Void a < 1354475995 425577 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means (a -> Void, Void -> a) < 1354476004 915218 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, with a forall on each, of course < 1354476007 35983 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means compose them and you get a -> b < 1354476009 98771 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-) < 1354476836 360441 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24.52.224.101 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1354476976 929187 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could write it with empty case blocks if it were allowed, such as (fmap $ \x -> case x of {}) < 1354477023 349194 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you could use undefined instead. < 1354477139 955998 :ifnspifn!~ifnspifn@184.90.25.102 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354477344 55082 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-30.elisa.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1354477483 337652 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.172 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1354477947 964893 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-67-216.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354478459 935911 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: Rebooting into new kernel < 1354478982 447034 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1354479044 54978 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1354479045 580696 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1354479046 310157 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354479130 258944 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1354479183 590981 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help languages < 1354479184 373567 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​languages: Esoteric: 1l 2l adjust asm axo bch befunge befunge98 bf bf8 bf16 bf32 boolfuck cintercal clcintercal dimensifuck glass glypho haskell kipple lambda lazyk linguine malbolge pbrain perl qbf rail rhotor sadol sceql trigger udage01 underload unlambda whirl. Competitive: bfjoust fyb. Other: asm c cxx forth sh. < 1354479193 602663 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I found an exported unsafeCoerce bug in an edwardk package! < 1354479217 589375 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help im trapped in a #esoteric factory < 1354479218 135360 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*GASP* < 1354479218 440246 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Sorry, I have no help for im_trapped_in_a__esoteric_factory! < 1354479222 130015 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24.52.224.101 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354479223 620759 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: You know the void package? < 1354479234 967866 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, not really < 1354479235 363116 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And its unsafeCoerce trick for implementing vacuous :: (Functor f) => f Void -> f a? < 1354479244 554343 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because that works for all functors. < 1354479247 121634 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :WELL, http://hpaste.org/78675 < 1354479250 612690 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: pfft found that bug like a year ago < 1354479256 768586 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :srsly though good work < 1354479263 541151 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: haha did you really < 1354479270 126796 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!malbolge ('&%:9]!~}|z2Vxwv-,POqponl$Hjig%eB@@>}= < 1354479272 228488 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello World! < 1354479277 561310 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see. < 1354479283 64667 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is funny because this is the second time one of edwardk's "safe" unsafeCoerces has turned out to result in an external unsafeCoerce < 1354479286 118242 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a week < 1354479300 136065 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :admittedly the first one was only in the git version of lens and never released < 1354479301 155784 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354479307 698610 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://hpaste.org/52660 < 1354479327 728511 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :different bug i guess < 1354479338 223332 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is testing the Malbolge hello world to see what it actually prints, because of a strange edit war on wikipedia.
< 1354479391 548715 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: But wouldn't that be ORIGINAL RESEARCH? < 1354479395 641114 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: did you tell edwardk :P < 1354479463 379603 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: OH WHOOPS < 1354479510 391238 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :!malbolge a < 1354479511 66771 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :invalid character in source file < 1354479514 137294 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :!malbolge ( < 1354479514 997244 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1354479518 691185 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :!malbolge ()()((() < 1354479519 445191 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :invalid character in source file < 1354479529 104061 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :!malbolge (|||(|(|(|(((|((|(| < 1354479529 852800 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :invalid character in source file < 1354479530 858602 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: YOur bug is the same one, I think, or pretty close. < 1354479532 323406 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: You must write a published book about Malbolge Hello Worlds, and then wait until someone else writes a book that refers to your book, and then you can rely on that. < 1354479540 878330 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i did < 1354479568 677355 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :did he not fix it < 1354479571 122059 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1354479571 693002 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ok so it's an unsafeCoerce that is only safe if the Functor instance actually satisfies the laws, presumably? < 1354479573 144772 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :he said he'd fix it when i showed him this one! < 1354479575 361605 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait wait wait < 1354479578 443663 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: right < 1354479580 945786 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does EgoBot do assembly < 1354479587 433647 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: any data type that is an actual functor will admit that unsafeCoerce implementation, I think < 1354479588 918191 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or is asm some other esoteric language < 1354479595 661914 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at least, I can't think of a counterexample < 1354479600 223560 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :!asm mov eax, 1 < 1354479600 612783 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe there is one with fancy GADT type family stuff < 1354479601 863645 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does not compile. < 1354479616 111081 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: There's "asm" in both the esoteric and other lists. < 1354479658 825007 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c int main() { printf("%d\n", 1); return 0;} < 1354479661 386701 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :for some reason I thought of this unsafeCoerce bug while trying to get to sleep < 1354479662 878374 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 < 1354479668 51753 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :after not having looked at or used the void package in ages < 1354479674 628797 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder < 1354479706 5969 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c int main() { int arr[1]; int i; for(i=0;;i++) { arr[i] = i; } return 0; } < 1354479708 773578 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​./interps/gcccomp/gcccomp: line 52: 17341 Segmentation fault /tmp/compiled.$$ < 1354479721 513963 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: The !asm runs /interps/gcccomp/gcccomp assembler which will try to gcc yourcode.s. < 1354479735 669702 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: So you need to write it in x86-64 AT&T assenbler. < 1354479736 583763 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, AT&T syntax < 1354479737 556985 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Evil < 1354479749 667405 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :!asm mov 1, @eax < 1354479751 229380 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does not compile. < 1354479755 736684 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not what it looks like. < 1354479760 479516 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :!asm mov $1, %eax < 1354479761 858984 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :!asm mov 1, %eax < 1354479762 664186 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1354479763 892700 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​./interps/gcccomp/gcccomp: line 52: 17509 Segmentation fault /tmp/compiled.$$ < 1354479768 36144 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :!asm mov $1, %eax < 1354479769 943569 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1354479777 808680 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :mov 1, %eax would be intel mov eax, [1]. < 1354479784 161619 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, without $ it's a memory address < 1354479792 621916 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's also .globl main; main: pushq %rbp; movq %rsp, %rbp; prependend automatically, and movl $0, %eax; leave; ret; suffixed. < 1354479849 865334 :nooodl__!~nooodl@91.177.40.155 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can !asm do anything reasonably nifty < 1354479858 827657 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: wanna hear a joke? < 1354479860 631530 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: AT&T syntax < 1354479877 359295 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :!asm .extern puts; .data; hello: .asciz "hello there"; .text; mov $hello, %rdi; call puts < 1354479879 369061 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello there < 1354479882 464422 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nifty, eh? < 1354480022 73470 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: btw the error you got on the Malbolge is because every position in the program allows a varying set of 8 bytes, namely the ones which decrypt to actual commands at that spot. < 1354480038 380253 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and no other byte is allowed at that spot < 1354480041 124595 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I know < 1354480085 643411 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-30.elisa.ee QUIT :Quit: Left < 1354480205 605097 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-30.elisa.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1354480288 59721 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-30.elisa.ee PART :#esoteric < 1354480529 925075 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354480555 536033 :ashet4!~root@adsl-ull-114-195.50-151.net24.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1354480707 149642 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait when did that become the topic < 1354480760 696395 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you only just noticed? < 1354480767 794543 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes? < 1354480781 32650 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would i look at the topic, it's not like it ever contains any useful information < 1354480845 464052 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : your ability to state what everyone else had already implicitly figured out is truly a boon to the channel <-- hey don't be too hard on him, i was tempted myself. even while logreading. < 1354480886 669207 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't make a habit of it < 1354480897 569394 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :Babies are usually not eaten owing to their repugnant looks, as well as their viscosity and unpleasant habits. | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1354480904 412696 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :improvement, yes? < 1354480914 396737 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott TOPIC #esoteric :http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1354480922 737127 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats elliott -----###
< 1354480934 250032 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bloody minimalists < 1354480944 413479 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott TOPIC #esoteric : < 1354480962 163017 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 TOPIC #esoteric :^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H < 1354480980 598948 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders if that actually breaks any clients
< 1354480986 324537 :nooodl__!~nooodl@91.177.40.155 PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course not < 1354481004 496960 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-67-216.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My client doesn't support topics shorter than 28 characters < 1354481015 86516 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no because i just typed in a caret followed by an h < 1354481024 280131 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: that might explain it. < 1354481034 747399 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott TOPIC #esoteric :caret h < 1354481039 596360 :nooodl__!~nooodl@91.177.40.155 TOPIC #esoteric : < 1354481040 67220 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric : < 1354481050 171490 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-67-216.opaltelecom.net TOPIC #esoteric :carrot ache < 1354481053 187122 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ANYONE BROKEN YET? < 1354481057 528192 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: how do you insert the actual Ctrl+H with irssi < 1354481063 946746 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ^V^H < 1354481075 846294 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: doesn't work for me :( < 1354481077 982510 :nooodl__!~nooodl@91.177.40.155 TOPIC #esoteric :/topic: the new way to chat < 1354481079 177267 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it is mosh's fault < 1354481093 343437 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1354481096 512541 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1354481101 927076 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :^V^H doesn't work in irssi < 1354481112 261736 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-67-216.opaltelecom.net TOPIC #esoteric :/topic: the new way to chat | How arre you? | *-r < 1354481114 726973 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i may have set a binding myself < 1354481115 41134 :nooodl__!~nooodl@91.177.40.155 PRIVMSG #esoteric :on x-chat ctrl+shift+u-8 works but that's probably not the case in irssi < 1354481130 842046 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^V escape_char < 1354481136 830603 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :You need to /bind -delete ^H < 1354481143 17218 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then you can just do ctrl-h < 1354481166 438384 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ^ the above binding is what i have, and allows me to do that with any control char < 1354481202 38348 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ah < 1354481205 694907 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: that's not what i want to do < 1354481213 183153 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i probably set it to resemble vim in that respect < 1354481320 707665 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/forget,_when_up_to_one%27s_neck_in_alligators,_that_the_mission_is_to_drain_the_swamp < 1354481365 809778 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd say that's just having your priorities straight < 1354481377 936970 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that an actual term anyone has ever used < 1354481404 23303 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: let's not forget, when up to one's neck in alligators, that the mission is to drain the swamp. it doesn't matter whether anyone has *used* the term. < 1354481433 114023 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :¬_¬ < 1354481437 457804 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i've also bound home to scroll_start and end to scroll_end < 1354481446 670994 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-67-216.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is a lot of things making me feel guilty < 1354481464 809325 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-67-216.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not as if those nuns didn't deserve to be guillotined... < 1354481543 154386 :nooodl__!~nooodl@91.177.40.155 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: thanks for that idiom < 1354481545 886013 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because i kept wanting to do that, while they by default just duplicated ^A and ^E. iirc. < 1354481552 154617 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl__: please dont use that idiom < 1354481560 935104 :nooodl__!~nooodl@91.177.40.155 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sorry < 1354481563 795315 :nooodl__!~nooodl@91.177.40.155 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's too good < 1354481700 589120 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: They are beginning_of_line and end_of_line by default, yes. < 1354481726 890733 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does ecape_char even have a default binding < 1354481741 813327 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does not. At least it wasn't bound to anything for me. < 1354481749 979662 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now it is bound to ^V IT'S SPREADING < 1354481797 218379 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :me too < 1354481810 886492 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i can bind something to type "/win " for me < 1354481815 549418 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be cool < 1354481841 538267 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :/lose big < 1354481873 255085 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay! < 1354482183 384137 :hagb4rd2!~perdito@77.11.116.85 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354482237 959360 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f7ce.pool.mediaWays.net QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1354482244 906609 :hagb4rd2!~perdito@77.11.116.85 NICK :hagb4rd < 1354482635 404718 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Yes. < 1354482825 251270 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.172 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354482929 623326 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: But how am I meant to get to the start or end of what I typed then < 1354483003 68539 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: ^A and ^E, i said < 1354483045 158803 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in my initial setup, those had the same bindings as home and end. so i changed one pair to something else useful. < 1354483063 639747 :hagb4rd!~perdito@77.11.116.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and mess things up < 1354483073 388291 :hagb4rd!~perdito@77.11.116.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mindfuck factor < 1354483091 237932 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :21:16:34 -!- TuxBlackEdo [~TuxBlackE@unaffiliated/tuxblackedo] has joined ##crypto < 1354483094 297270 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :21:17:16 hey i just met you, and this is crazy, but here is a cyphertext, crack it for me maybe? < 1354483100 695668 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :regretting joining this channel so i could let lambdabot in it < 1354483129 462439 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well if you can now find a one-line lambdabot command to crack it, all will be well. < 1354483186 258153 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I have ^A as my tmux key < 1354483192 8774 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :And if I pass ^A through < 1354483198 280125 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have that make a literal
< 1354483208 772098 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :For manually making CTCPs < 1354483253 534574 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: fine, we can assume there's a reason irssi allows personal settings. < 1354483285 162129 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because otherwise nobody would use it? < 1354483301 867034 :hagb4rd!~perdito@77.11.116.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly < 1354483309 233552 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :This IRC client makes CTRL+A send a literal CTRL+A for such purpose; to send other controls literal requires CTRL+P at first. < 1354483587 713664 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I keep using ^A and ^E for start_of_line/end_of_line even though it's under screen; I just ^Aa all the time. It's very stupid. < 1354483597 620311 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you considered changing your screen key < 1354483600 412592 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :to not be stupid < 1354483623 859092 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that would just make me type a lot of ^As everywhere. < 1354483624 416840 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :^A is the most convienient for me < 1354483657 977472 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :The default key for tmux is ^B or some shizz < 1354483711 996484 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not as if I could think and operate a computer at the same time, so I have to keep doing the stupid thing. < 1354483792 474228 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Is there a way to do a "/window list" that lists in the current buffer? < 1354483795 251561 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Current window. < 1354483797 715854 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thing. < 1354483818 257451 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION suddenly imagines an intelligent race that cannot think and act at the same time, but must do all actions according to (short) preplanned algorithms
< 1354483830 707989 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You can not have a status window at all, I think that would do it. < 1354483843 100408 :hagb4rd!~perdito@77.11.116.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: you could try to pawlow self-conditioning < 1354483846 523466 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: that is not terribly satisfying < 1354483858 52528 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*species < 1354483861 130193 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i would be ok with a way to write a key combo that switches to the status window and does /window list and then types "/window " for me i guess < 1354483862 521600 :hagb4rd!~perdito@77.11.116.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: everytime you use type ^A bite yourself < 1354483866 748261 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i could do like ^W < 1354483912 206663 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: What about Alt number? < 1354483920 539933 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and once an algorithm has started, it cannot be halted, except according to its own rules, and no thinking can happen simultaneously. < 1354483949 209253 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: that doesn't show me a list. this is for when i forget which number is which < 1354483959 331105 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You can probably do that switch-to-status thing. < 1354483971 522808 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Just type the name in? < 1354483995 469154 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the algorithms are too short to simulate any significant intelligence. < 1354484002 596212 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"/win goto the-full-name" is a bit long. < 1354484008 942810 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would accept "/w substring" < 1354484050 937695 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oi elliott < 1354484055 927055 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's definitely tonight < 1354484065 738819 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm it occurs to me that such an intelligence species would get around this by cooperation. < 1354484070 663788 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*-nt < 1354484084 77977 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: not quite < 1354484087 998807 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should bind scroll_start and scroll_end to something < 1354484093 742172 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Might be useful < 1354484114 377282 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: "/bind X multi change_window 1;command window list;insert_text /win " (with the trailing space) where X is your key, I think. < 1354484116 383273 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-67-216.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, are you getting addicted to lens? < 1354484117 976825 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : switch (core.opcode_index+Fetchb()) { < 1354484118 50350 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : #include "core_normal/prefix_none.h" < 1354484118 210964 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : #include "core_normal/prefix_0f.h" < 1354484118 284285 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : #include "core_normal/prefix_66.h" < 1354484136 594089 :hagb4rd!~perdito@77.11.116.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :intelligence seems not be the best method for multitasking < 1354484139 394257 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :atriq: more like addicted to HAPPINESS < 1354484154 406711 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Okay, let's try this. (Is ^W bound to anything by default?) < 1354484165 242863 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: It's bound to the usual delete-word thing. < 1354484182 458775 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right. < 1354484183 675231 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use that. < 1354484198 809685 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are lenses and can they be given a succinct, incomprehensible definition in terms of category theory < 1354484259 589771 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-67-216.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There to Functors as something else is to Applicatives < 1354484297 214797 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :atriq: Traversables? < 1354484306 277359 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION vaguely recalls something about that
< 1354484311 542543 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-67-216.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, something more category theoryish < 1354484361 808619 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A lens is not a functor, although there is functor from category of isomorphisms of (->) to Lens, I think. < 1354484362 840540 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought lens had a spot where you put in either Functor or Applicative and the former gave you an ordinary lens < 1354484367 654856 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-67-216.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, basically, they use functors to generalize functions and setters to the SAME THING < 1354484375 133395 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-67-216.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, yes < 1354484405 887615 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But perhaps they could be made on other categories too, I don't know < 1354484440 346755 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: store comonad coalgebra or something < 1354484465 928965 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah: "Lenses are the coalgebras for the costate comonad" < 1354484484 257478 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are colenses algebras for the state monad < 1354484493 823603 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ask shachaf < 1354484501 642933 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION might perhaps look at lens properly some day.
< 1354484516 911887 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although maybe not until after upgrading the platform. < 1354484527 417194 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1354484528 958238 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I just made lots of alt+shift and then ^Z bindings < 1354484534 330801 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i'm at least two versions behind. < 1354484542 817354 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll do ^Z-shift or ^Z-alt when I'll need it < 1354484543 201032 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-67-216.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What would an algebra in the state monad even look like < 1354484544 947466 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Conans are to good cooperation what nans are to good operation. < 1354484548 338457 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-67-216.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"State b a -> a"? < 1354484550 112280 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-43-239.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1354484550 185726 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-43-239.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1354484550 185897 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1354484574 410337 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i thought Conans were barbarians. < 1354484588 43887 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :atriq: Yep. < 1354484593 208231 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-67-216.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, it's cool, nans are grandmothers < 1354484595 251608 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess algebra of state monad would be like ((s -> (a, s)) -> a) < 1354484689 412712 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :A grandmother certainly isn't a number < 1354484694 989343 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :except that Conan that is a comedian. i guess his nan is rather median, then. < 1354484702 904128 :hagb4rd!~perdito@77.11.116.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and conan is an instance of barbarian < 1354484705 761439 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1354484733 250056 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.172 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1354484738 715898 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nan the Cobarbarian. < 1354484854 322999 :hagb4rd!~perdito@77.11.116.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no remorse & no regret < 1354484868 119199 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-67-216.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1354484987 187432 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24.52.224.101 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1354485081 573891 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OMG an elf siege < 1354485086 861697 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never had an elf siege before < 1354485110 455343 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: edwardk fixed it < 1354485134 119636 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1354485147 161987 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1354485197 137059 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1354485292 551512 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: do the elves walk around saying "siege heil"? < 1354485309 859279 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps < 1354485542 357615 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric : Nan the Cobarbarian. <-- I read that as "Nam" < 1354485554 918162 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :and was wondering why you were joking about Indian food < 1354485776 646030 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, < 1354485784 176470 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the indian bread is called 'naan' < 1354485823 719386 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's flat and tasty < 1354485823 994807 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, is that how it is written in Swedish though? *checks* < 1354485825 692562 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :woah that's a palindrome < 1354485839 129426 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nån < 1354485846 205103 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, yeah you are right < 1354485891 605831 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Sometimes also plain 'nan'; I refer to it as "not-a-number bread" personally. < 1354485902 407416 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :palindrome is disappointing because it's not autological < 1354485935 727221 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I haven't seen bread that was a number < 1354485937 77044 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1354485967 804660 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Nam" is also a Finnish interjection much the same as the English "yum". < 1354485976 261677 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/nam#Interjection agrees. < 1354485978 54120 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, i bet you're really popular with all the local takeaways < 1354485986 468865 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nom nom nom < 1354486047 672983 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I don't think I've ever had to mention it to one of those; the not-a-number designation has pretty much been confined to discussions at home about what to buy from the store. < 1354486101 356240 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: do you know how hard it is to segfault DOSBox with bad guest code? if you answered "not at all hard" then you are correct < 1354486123 712925 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :printf '\x62\xe5' > foo.com && dosbox foo.com < 1354486140 975894 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, Volapük also has the word "nam". < 1354486147 961771 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Hell, I have it happen even with valid DOS programs < 1354486152 364282 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Etymology: Reversal of “man”, from Latin manus (“hand”)." < 1354486164 202814 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :mandible < 1354486165 913581 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It means "hand".) < 1354486166 979987 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: That's not very hard. < 1354486228 352262 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :DOSBox doesn't check segment limits either. :/ < 1354486313 471317 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Its OPL emulation seems better than worse though < 1354486341 257967 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can poke the VGA memory with a xor ax, ax; mov ds, ax; mov eax, 0xa0000; mov byte [eax], 42 in it. < 1354486379 262958 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :What would happen on a 386 machine in 16 bit mode with that code? < 1354486387 399368 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or a 486 < 1354486487 280879 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not entirely sure, but I'd guess an exception in at least virtual-8086 mode; maybe not in real-address mode. < 1354486527 173655 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps in real-address mode too. < 1354486530 85238 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sadly that segfault is only a call to a NULL function pointer < 1354486564 295341 :Mathnerd314!~quassel@palevsky-223-221.rh.uchicago.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1354486615 597159 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In the real-address mode, vector 13 is the segment overrun exception" just going by the name, that could happen. < 1354486774 582744 :nys!~nysnamovo@24.142.60.139 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354486877 363401 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1354486937 953193 :nys!~nysnamovo@24.142.60.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i just got this idea < 1354486940 196318 :nys!~nysnamovo@24.142.60.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastebin.com/UnfL0Z7T < 1354486950 258978 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Looks like segfaults aren't very hard to come by. < 1354486961 859243 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, or maybe I was just wrong. < 1354487169 136246 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did you observe? < 1354487199 197758 :aloril!~aloril@84.249.126.153 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1354487288 171062 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, printf '\x44\x51' > foo.com && dosbox foo.com < 1354487305 885557 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unlike 62 e5, this isn't an invalid instruction. < 1354487316 217522 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just inc sp; push cx < 1354487338 418197 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :So overwrite whatever was on top of stack < 1354487353 878320 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1354487360 501315 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't *think* that's supposed to segfault it... < 1354487364 998065 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But will the program terminate, or probably it will result something invalid and break it? < 1354487369 340410 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :segfaults my Debian DOSBox 0.74 but not the SVN trunk version < 1354487374 330450 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1354487432 608581 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I think the top of the stack would contain the return to dos < 1354487443 961206 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that shouldn't matter < 1354487518 962409 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Anyway there are a bunch of other 2-byte .com files that will crash it. < 1354487529 575548 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you try them all? < 1354487553 363035 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :To return to DOS using the stack I think you will need a RET instruction, though. < 1354487558 571023 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1354487560 878154 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1354487566 518352 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I generated them all but trying them is a hassle. < 1354487569 132732 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Otherwise the CPU would just go past your program and then execute whatever < 1354487702 295406 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems the guest can install a callback for certain events (not the ISA-provided interrupt vector mechanism but some DOSBox thing) and the default callback is "jump to address 0 in the host" < 1354487732 876814 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1354487790 447547 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that implementing the "mount" command? < 1354487828 409928 :nys!~nysnamovo@24.142.60.139 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1354487841 54447 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no idea < 1354488075 444901 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1354488139 392676 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354488271 926385 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: How did you come across it? < 1354488280 849230 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :randomly < 1354488366 68736 :nys!~nysnamovo@24.142.60.139 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354488375 216643 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oi elliott < 1354488381 361985 :nys!~nysnamovo@24.142.60.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oi < 1354488400 615435 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its not night yet < 1354488459 507041 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you really not < 1354488462 254678 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :started the fortess yetr < 1354488468 941238 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you ever going to.......................... < 1354488500 312778 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1354488515 615317 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one step at a time man! < 1354488527 535924 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :first, get df working (come on you must have done this) < 1354488539 816209 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have to come up with a way to make sure Phantom_Hoover won't cheat!! < 1354488546 829547 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :something about cats and explosoins < 1354488552 352795 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: imo don't play df btw < 1354488566 86570 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :playing df means not fixing lens : ) < 1354488595 858275 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: What happened to your nose? < 1354488617 22718 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's invisible < 1354488627 350193 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :⿐ < 1354488628 288266 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :alt. stylized out < 1354488654 208558 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :alt. it's a " " < 1354488659 26040 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :alt. can't you see it???? < 1354488674 134981 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric ::3) < 1354488686 264950 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1354488690 481931 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: whats alt. < 1354488693 712477 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it like ctrl < 1354488695 46200 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :alternatively < 1354488707 718453 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it like meta < 1354488713 92453 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :super < 1354488797 856273 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1354488845 382794 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1354489058 170995 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ais523 http://esolangs.org/wiki/Talk:Carriage#Representation_erasure < 1354489058 405705 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1354490494 125058 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my god it's full of (5-legged) stars < 1354490745 886039 :jfischoff!~jfischoff@c-67-169-45-161.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: jfischoff < 1354491868 526676 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen: *MWAHAHAHA* < 1354491897 168631 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you not say "five-legged"? < 1354491941 362036 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think five-pointed is more common, although my maniackal laugh was not about that. < 1354492022 751247 :hagb4rd!~perdito@77.11.116.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :where do i know that from? < 1354492036 756256 :hagb4rd!~perdito@77.11.116.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sounds familiar < 1354492045 206989 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's even a wp article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five-pointed_star < 1354492233 690354 :hagb4rd!~perdito@77.11.116.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :though i find legs more accurate than points since it 10 of them < 1354492239 930539 :hagb4rd!~perdito@77.11.116.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has < 1354492260 823834 :hagb4rd!~perdito@77.11.116.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pentagram has 5, right < 1354492276 551941 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1354492297 778985 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen: um isn't the mutual recursion in ocaml solved the same way with types as with functions, by using "and"? < 1354492328 615476 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can do that? < 1354492335 828632 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION will try in 3.2 seconds
< 1354492352 686750 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION keeps count
< 1354492384 559133 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT WORKS < 1354492386 301573 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :man < 1354492389 57462 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was simple < 1354492392 669264 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION does a little dance
< 1354492419 593252 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I had always thought "it's stupid that you can do mutual recursion for variables but not for types" < 1354492445 227143 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's kind of a problem I have, though < 1354492480 883662 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for instance when playing a board game and my opponent does something unexpected I will usually think "uh, that's a weird move" rather than "ok, now, why did he do that?" < 1354492516 727050 :nys!~nysnamovo@24.142.60.139 QUIT :Quit: quit < 1354492570 842584 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously this is simpler in haskell >:) < 1354492571 155600 :hagb4rd!~perdito@77.11.116.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the other hand this would pretty much depend on the move < 1354492615 243574 :hagb4rd!~perdito@77.11.116.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a native operator in haskell to get the cartesian product? < 1354492632 182648 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can it be simpler than "use and" < 1354492635 663837 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> liftM2 (,) "may" "be" < 1354492637 53920 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : [('m','b'),('m','e'),('a','b'),('a','e'),('y','b'),('y','e')] < 1354492667 812897 :hagb4rd!~perdito@77.11.116.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1354492731 607027 :hagb4rd!~perdito@77.11.116.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :couldn't it be more like may X be? < 1354492737 371002 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: admittedly for values/functions you also need to use "rec", i think < 1354492773 232217 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hagb4rd: it's not _that_ often you need it i think... < 1354492803 157248 :hagb4rd!~perdito@77.11.116.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really no.. at least not for now < 1354492821 964905 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hoogle f a -> f b -> f (a,b) < 1354492822 512570 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Data.Sequence zip :: Seq a -> Seq b -> Seq (a, b) < 1354492822 675950 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prelude zip :: [a] -> [b] -> [(a, b)] < 1354492822 748979 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Data.List zip :: [a] -> [b] -> [(a, b)] < 1354492825 538133 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can just define an operator for it if you want < 1354492835 417523 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrong function < 1354492838 344887 :hagb4rd!~perdito@77.11.116.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yea < 1354492839 523297 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :with idiom brackets it'd be (| (a,b) |) :P < 1354492861 559260 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would it really? < 1354492871 860709 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like that < 1354492929 494999 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hoogle Applicative f => f a -> f b -> f (a,b) < 1354492929 961786 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Data.Sequence zip :: Seq a -> Seq b -> Seq (a, b) < 1354492930 39913 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prelude zip :: [a] -> [b] -> [(a, b)] < 1354492930 112804 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Data.List zip :: [a] -> [b] -> [(a, b)] < 1354492937 920953 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bad hoogle < 1354492973 132259 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 has been suggesting this function, i think :) < 1354492987 863348 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's an alternative base function for applicatives < 1354493019 654388 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you are doing applicative (not zip) then for f a -> f b -> f (a,b) you will have uncurry liftPair or liftA2 (,) < 1354493040 601660 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and more connected to the category theory way of looking at it. < 1354493042 495 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I called it the liftPair which I think should be one of the class methods for Applicative < 1354493075 974587 :hagb4rd!~perdito@77.11.116.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thx a lot < 1354493099 532570 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hoogle (><) < 1354493099 742057 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Test.QuickCheck.Arbitrary (><) :: (Gen a -> Gen a) -> (Gen a -> Gen a) -> (Gen a -> Gen a) < 1354493099 820105 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Test.QuickCheck (><) :: (Gen a -> Gen a) -> (Gen a -> Gen a) -> (Gen a -> Gen a) < 1354493099 893645 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Data.Graph.Inductive.Query.Monad (><) :: (a -> b) -> (c -> d) -> (a, c) -> (b, d) < 1354493141 530128 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :>< is used, but not in a very basic library, i think < 1354493414 979441 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1354493592 832387 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1354494033 402369 :nooodl__!~nooodl@91.177.40.155 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1354494448 739535 :jfischoff!~jfischoff@c-67-169-45-161.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354496307 8855 :myndzi\!myndzi@174-31-191-131.tukw.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1354496335 41396 :myndzi\!myndzi@75-172-25-135.tukw.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354496944 16888 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1354497822 94169 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1354497823 143882 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1354497836 170038 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just begin to watch the next stargate episode < 1354497847 373854 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it started by a "previously in stargate sg-1..." < 1354497849 147703 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and < 1354497858 701392 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHAT THE HECK OF A SPOILER IS THAT THAT'S CERTAINLY NOT PREVIOUS < 1354497876 389783 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cute ewoks coming out of everywhere < 1354497883 340016 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :weeee arrrre the fuuurrrrrlings < 1354497892 438629 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :daniel jackson: we finally get to meet you! < 1354497894 4506 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :doing that for a time travel episode would be a mindscrew < 1354497897 578509 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I THOUGHT THEY DIDN'T EXIST < 1354497903 404102 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1354497911 423200 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it would < 1354497941 601543 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there was a series called "stargate gravity" that was canceled very early because it was too much of a mindscrew < 1354497946 209998 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihavetofindthat < 1354497957 607493 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, back to episode *hoping it's a joke* < 1354497995 741728 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :. < 1354498003 72776 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it is) < 1354498437 743972 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen: regarding your last edit, if it's like haskell -rectypes is only needed when there is no named constructor between a type and its recursed appearance. < 1354498461 515372 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well haskell doesn't have -rectypes, but that's when you get an error.) < 1354498476 395258 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen: that episode was awesome. < 1354498546 211823 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :value constructor, that is. < 1354498601 982185 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if you removed _both_ "A of" and "B of", it would be needed, but having at least one of them is enough. < 1354498942 31518 :myndzi\!myndzi@75-172-25-135.tukw.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1354499217 360074 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wine doesn't provide any isolation against malicious windows programs right < 1354499223 455136 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like they can still execute native linux syscalls i think < 1354499290 550228 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you asking because your system has been compromised by a Fallout crack < 1354499344 984413 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it hasn't been compromised yet ;) < 1354499389 919767 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fallout for DOS, right? < 1354499406 275071 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: What's with the dosbox and WINE thing? < 1354499527 6337 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you see < 1354499532 763002 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am excited about grand theft auto v < 1354499538 522404 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :coming out next year < 1354499546 348840 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i decided to play grand theft auto i in dosbox < 1354499551 170732 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i realized it sucks < 1354499563 172507 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so now i am trying to play san andreas in wine < 1354499690 501719 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :great i'm supposed to get wine from multiarch now < 1354499699 319243 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1354499702 821573 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you get WINE in Debian anyway? < 1354499704 839420 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure this will not in any way ruin my entire system and cause apt to segfault randomly like last time < 1354499710 899280 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: the usual way? < 1354499757 572666 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1354499769 190122 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :At one point the package wasn't available in testing. < 1354499776 295045 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even though it was in stable and unstable. < 1354499779 970146 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks like it's back. < 1354499788 229764 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still get that issue occasionally with other packages. < 1354500206 442315 :PieBotN!~piespy@96.43.64.250 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354500371 508628 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love how allegedly wine can run all of these different programs but the only one i can actually run is starcraft < 1354500383 126993 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think wine may secretly be a cleanroom reimplementation of starcraft < 1354500411 468751 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, WINE ran Red Alert 3 better than Windows for me at one point. < 1354500421 855078 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh nice < 1354500429 512587 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess i did run about half of deus ex too < 1354500432 975623 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't totally work < 1354500448 58715 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It also ran a bunch of other things. < 1354500454 815426 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Diablo II worked well. < 1354500492 796667 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote i love how allegedly wine can run all of these different programs but the only one i can actually run is starcraft i think wine may secretly be a cleanroom reimplementation of starcraft < 1354500504 406455 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :860) i love how allegedly wine can run all of these different programs but the only one i can actually run is starcraft i think wine may secretly be a cleanroom reimplementation of starcraft < 1354500550 46556 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shattered Galaxy worked in WINE for me some years ago < 1354500561 318688 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...the UI looks like Starcraft, I think < 1354500599 519667 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you sure you weren't actually playing starcraft < 1354500635 417828 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hmm, right < 1354500643 606500 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf I tried going to wine.appdb.com derp < 1354500665 26840 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that seems like a very primitive way to recognize troublesome recursive types < 1354500678 382703 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://appdb.winehq.org/appimage.php?iId=12758 < 1354500690 790566 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially for a language like Ocaml which is supposed to be good at that kind of stuff < 1354500717 593838 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yeah it was great :) < 1354500723 574895 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it didn't really have an ending though < 1354500731 275348 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it felt really really short < 1354500743 135720 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen: well the thing i've heard is that if you don't have that rule, you very often get things that type well if you leave out arguments < 1354500774 233463 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you rephrase? < 1354500780 832597 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm notsure I understand < 1354500800 133565 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :missing or extra arguments to functions often end up not giving type errors if you allow recursive types. < 1354500809 314405 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, does Starcraft look like that image? I've never actually played < 1354500819 785541 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, right < 1354500837 119011 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes for instance with "('a -> 'a) as 'a" < 1354500840 812739 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1354500908 842034 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's not about preventing nonsensical data structures? < 1354500926 325808 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :for haskell, they have newtype which always compiles as no extra overhead, so it's not _necessary_ to use recursive types for anything. < 1354500961 1916 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for instance if you define type 'a endless = 'a * 'a endless < 1354501011 791987 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it prevents nonsensical data structures too, although in haskell data Stream a = Stream a (Stream a) is a perfectly useful type for always infinite lists < 1354501050 474199 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and more or less the same as what you wrote, underneath < 1354501057 807206 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :# type a = a;; < 1354501057 933102 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Error: The type abbreviation a is cyclic < 1354501058 274981 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :# type a = A of a;; < 1354501058 509950 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :type a = A of a < 1354501076 190099 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :soooooooooo not so useful after all < 1354501104 883730 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, wait, it works < 1354501111 887034 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :let rec x = A x < 1354501187 92375 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah ocaml has special support for cyclic constants < 1354501234 853642 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::k Mu < 1354501236 200476 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(* -> *) -> * < 1354501259 538553 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix (Mu . Identity) < 1354501261 71494 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: data constructor `Mu' < 1354501284 787432 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix (Fix . Identity) < 1354501286 214020 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: data constructor `Fix' < 1354501289 117826 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Is Starcraft good? < 1354501293 858688 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there any good RTSes? :-( < 1354501295 866889 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn what was it called < 1354501327 566885 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@type In < 1354501328 781328 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :f (Mu f) -> Mu f < 1354501336 371276 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that? < 1354501338 969381 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1354501344 197512 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src Mu < 1354501344 431184 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :newtype Mu f = In { out :: f (Mu f) } < 1354501354 27128 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix (In . Identity) < 1354501355 453439 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : No instance for (GHC.Show.Show < 1354501355 609782 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : (Data.Functor.Identity.I... < 1354501356 804604 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src Rec -- better?? < 1354501356 882934 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Source not found. Just what do you think you're doing Dave? < 1354501361 1765 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah < 1354501363 56436 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess not. < 1354501368 306131 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix (In . Just) < 1354501370 97835 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : In (Just (In (Just (In (Just (In (Just (In (Just (In (Just (In (Just (In (J... < 1354501397 104288 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In? < 1354501400 543725 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In. < 1354501401 118394 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1354501424 869235 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ty InR < 1354501426 45011 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Rec a -> a) -> Rec a < 1354501431 290299 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :better than In?? < 1354501480 488063 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: not the same purpose < 1354501494 959909 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: "better" is a total ordering on all objects. < 1354501498 702899 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1354501534 301297 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example, InR is better than In, and In is better than bell peppers < 1354501607 306117 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :objects that think "better" is not a total ordering on all objects are better than objects that think "better" is a total ordering on all objects < 1354501638 943556 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Objects that don't think are better than both of those. < 1354501647 609013 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think "better" is not even a partial ordering < 1354501658 724470 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, i like bell peppers < 1354501671 448113 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also think "better" is not always transitive. < 1354501684 992257 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, is a computer that works not better than a broken computer? < 1354501693 392576 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Caltrain is not always transitive. :-( < 1354501710 874999 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: depends. was it trying to kill you before it broke? < 1354501743 299633 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Good point I suppose. < 1354501757 212227 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, I meant is not *always* transitive; it is sometimes transitive. < 1354501885 833465 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if x <= y or y <= x always holds, then any three objects must have some transitivity among them. < 1354501966 536947 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(clarifying and then proving the above statement left as an exercise.) < 1354502073 270502 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, in a partial ordering and in a total ordering you would have if x<=y and y<=x and x=y. A partial ordering is the same as a thin category, isn't it? < 1354502108 148149 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(They may be different even though equal, I guess?) < 1354502118 213175 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, what is better than something else, also means, is better in what way? < 1354502260 146166 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote edwardk ieee < 1354502260 323610 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :edwardk says: type level ieee floats are a crime against nature. i had to implement them in c++ for template meta programming once. never ever again < 1354502265 970523 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: See what you're missing? < 1354502300 67321 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually I've been getting more annoy{ed,ing} lately where #haskell is concerned. < 1354502317 44164 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The other day shapr told me I was being too negative. < 1354502453 570072 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shapr hasn't broken long ago? < 1354502457 719622 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf is becoming kmc? < 1354502511 136715 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe there should be that a instance can be designated "evil" which indicates that it is not completely mathematically correct, and that derived instances from evil instances also are called evil; for example, instances such as (Num Float) and so on have this designation. In case of optimization of mathematical laws (if any), they can be omitted. < 1354502542 563815 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So due to this it would apply also to (Monoid (Sum Double)) and so on since rounding errors can cause the result to be wrong. < 1354502934 614583 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know of chess variant involving Scrabble tiles as the pieces? (There is the number in the corner, which can be used to tell which direction it is facing, if you like.) < 1354503284 436796 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"how is it that you are alive when everyone else on the planet was killed?" "I was protected by this" *points at her necklace* *camera zooms in to display necklace + cleavage* ... *camera stays on cleavage* ... *camera still on cleavage* < 1354503318 730853 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :scifi.jpg < 1354503341 549657 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :*camera won't move because now the camera men is killed too < 1354503350 435462 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1354503399 433241 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously the necklace thing is just there for fanservice < 1354503525 825613 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't expect the lead female opposing character to die in the first scene just because of jewelry < 1354503738 386035 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/97PdF.jpg < 1354503742 265590 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(found on Reddit) < 1354504209 92197 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t to < 1354504210 572318 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gettable f => (s -> a) -> (a -> f a) -> s -> f s < 1354504307 671041 :TheSmooze!codu@codu.org NICK :WindWhistler < 1354504402 406379 :WindWhistler!codu@codu.org NICK :Gregor < 1354504579 394899 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t over mapped < 1354504594 251945 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_> < 1354504627 102481 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo :: (a -> b) -> [a] -> [b]; foo f xs = over mapped f xs is even compiled into foo = map! < 1354504694 498801 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> "hm..." < 1354504703 216737 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval: ExitFailure 1 < 1354504703 304844 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval: Prelude.undefined < 1354504705 959079 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thread killed < 1354504714 87140 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1354504718 989404 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t over mapped < 1354504720 492307 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I messed things up a little bit in the other channel. < 1354504726 372346 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :19:11 @@ @echo @echo @echo @echo @echo @echo @echo @echo @echo @echo @echo @echo @echo @echo @echo @echo @echo @echo @echo @echo < 1354504727 797572 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Functor f => (a -> b) -> f a -> f b < 1354504732 141263 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :19:13 "whoops" < 1354504756 217323 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats shachaf -----###
< 1354504769 918787 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Isn't it great, though! < 1354504777 622195 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay! < 1354504789 99101 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: There are a lot of unsafeCoerces in lens to make it happen. < 1354504919 991506 :jfischoff!~jfischoff@c-67-169-45-161.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: jfischoff < 1354505121 240552 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t from < 1354505146 266533 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*chirp* < 1354505153 215252 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :from < 1354505153 393476 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : :: forall r. < 1354505153 466864 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : Isomorphic r => < 1354505153 467080 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : Isomorphism (B r) (A r) (T r) (S r) -> r < 1354505161 740621 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :bats < 1354505189 62636 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1354505205 365849 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thread killed < 1354505214 545854 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: We could sure use a nicer Iso. :-( < 1354505231 657343 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is becoming obvious that I don't understand delimited continuations as well as I thought < 1354505253 348533 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :he said, before his brain exploded. < 1354505267 504162 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: quote that and not the other one? < 1354505273 703804 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the anon one < 1354505277 483694 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :of COURSE, if I just shift into four day cubic time then *boom* < 1354505278 840335 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ? < 1354505294 51097 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Oh, I just gave the answer to oerjan's question. < 1354505300 324486 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :anon < 1354505300 483809 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : :: forall r. < 1354505300 557274 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : (Isomorphic r, S r ~ Maybe (A r), T r ~ Maybe (A r), B r ~ A r) => < 1354505300 557437 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : A r -> (A r -> Bool) -> r < 1354505331 251427 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA) < 1354505335 748505 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@Arr < 1354505337 943676 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@Arrr < 1354505362 182277 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: arr yarr < 1354505362 403724 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aye Aye Cap'n < 1354505374 222200 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are S, T, A, B < 1354505380 921041 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (^.) < 1354505388 888131 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s -> Getting a s t a b -> a < 1354505396 602945 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: its what you get < 1354505409 37771 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no thats s t a b < 1354505415 275000 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a s t a b < 1354505420 246757 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: aren't you ready to get a s t a b..... < 1354505424 335264 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is S T A B............................... < 1354505429 47376 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :theyre type families < 1354505429 372688 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :S = s < 1354505439 340883 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: haskell = casein sensitive < 1354505470 934345 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: how cheesy < 1354505490 353513 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, fine. < 1354505493 61876 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a lie. :-( < 1354505552 559912 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact haskell pays no attention to cheese at all < 1354505577 665339 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Depends on the cheese. < 1354505601 692493 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: You know the thing that's called "bulgarian cheese" in Hebrew? < 1354505608 73097 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...no. < 1354505616 243378 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: why would people name their type families S T A B < 1354505640 708487 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: elliott just got startled < 1354505642 41414 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: it's a very dysfunctional family < 1354505651 79381 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: some people know no taste. sooner or later they'll be getting a s t a b < 1354505663 614505 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: do you know ? < 1354505670 876719 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: know what < 1354505675 351217 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why its S T A B < 1354505694 914738 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1354505700 212485 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :S is a reference to s < 1354505703 773551 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :T is a reference to t < 1354505707 436115 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :A is a reference to a < 1354505711 142946 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :B is a reference to c < 1354505715 103683 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1354505730 561742 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :help :( < 1354505754 664310 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :obvyusly < 1354505756 290527 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: class Isomorphic r where iso :: (S r -> A r) -> (B r -> T r) -> r; type S; type T; type A; type B < 1354505767 852521 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"um....." < 1354505773 531679 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: class Isomorphic r where iso :: (S r -> A r) -> (B r -> T r) -> r; type S r; type T r; type A r; type B r < 1354505797 731708 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :type family CoalgebraicA (x :: *) :: * < 1354505797 819011 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :type family CoalgebraicB (x :: *) :: * < 1354505798 32242 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :type family CoalgebraicF (x :: *) :: * -> * < 1354505804 470760 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :type instance CoalgebraicA (a -> f_b) = a < 1354505804 545154 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :type instance CoalgebraicB (a -> f b) = b < 1354505804 545316 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :type instance CoalgebraicF (a -> f b) = f < 1354505812 624823 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :instance (Functor f, x ~ (a -> f b), y ~ (s -> f t)) => Isomorphic (x -> y) where type S (x -> y) = CoalgebraicA y type T (x -> y) = CoalgebraicB y type A (x -> y) = CoalgebraicA x type B (x -> y) = CoalgebraicB x iso sa bt afb s = bt <$> afb (sa s) < 1354505828 521815 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :glad we got that cleared up. < 1354505829 366548 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think shachaf is going critical. RUN! < 1354505854 34600 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: "don't worry it's constructive criticism" < 1354505865 877472 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote critcism < 1354505869 867940 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1354505870 513569 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote criticism < 1354505874 518365 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :175) Thanks to nooga for constructive criticism, his ideas and being a constant annoyance. --http://theendisnear.no-ip.info/ \ 720) elliott: Anyway, if you wrote a Haskell book, I would read it and possibly provide classical criticism. That is to say, non-constructive. < 1354505880 510274 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo 720 < 1354505924 984054 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :international mathematics olympiad 720 < 1354505943 214650 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*al < 1354505957 62971 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :olympial < 1354505973 917829 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like this? http://www.chessvariants.org/index/msdisplay.php?itemid=MSalienandpredat < 1354505982 938184 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a very good URL. < 1354505989 578032 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like my other symmetric variants too? < 1354505991 264225 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has almost all the components. < 1354506002 336489 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Variants? < 1354506012 426415 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :microsoft aliens sound scary < 1354506013 730129 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I don't mean the URL; I mean the game written by the rules described on that HTML page. < 1354506021 80779 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What page? < 1354506022 209260 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh! < 1354506028 935199 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You want me to send an HTTP GET request. < 1354506031 792049 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I get it now. < 1354506033 38222 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I think "MS" stands for "member submission". < 1354506037 695574 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Yes. < 1354506050 71312 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it was submitted by alien members, ok < 1354506124 84139 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: you should take the bus to san francisco < 1354506126 179790 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :$1! < 1354506129 735391 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Other games I made which is symmetric variant of asymmetric game, is: http://www.chessvariants.org/index/msdisplay.php?itemid=MStworingchess http://www.chessvariants.org/index/msdisplay.php?itemid=MSsymmetricsnark http://www.chessvariants.org/index/msdisplay.php?itemid=MSsymmetricmonst < 1354506146 100418 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Microsoft symmetric snark? < 1354506169 782050 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it's what happens when their tech support goes _really_ wrong < 1354506266 900293 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: btw asymmetric ≻ symmetric < 1354506498 660790 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i got GTA San Andreas to run in Wine < 1354506534 741579 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have also, in comments on other pages, proposed symmetric variant of Angels and Devils. < 1354506556 690961 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it works pretty well except that the world is filled with huge flickering multicolored polygons, and every object casts a trail of flame against the sky < 1354506566 813500 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i'm just going to play as if my character is tripping on acid < 1354506614 431087 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Did you know conal lives in San Andreas? < 1354506632 386264 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1354506633 308616 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Arc_Koen < 1354506660 840799 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Isn't that how you play "real life" too? < 1354506762 158661 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really < 1354507291 713927 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc isn't real. < 1354507320 269999 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: should I learn Agda < 1354507360 833413 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1354507377 553643 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are different definitions of "astrological age" which is not agreed on. As far as I know two is possible: [1] The constellation of the vernal equinox point. [2] The negative of ayanamsha. In the second case, you have to know what the reference date is! < 1354507386 259094 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: wait, you haven't already? < 1354507388 17426 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought Agda was just Haskell with fancy types and ":" instead of "::". < 1354507411 228997 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well I "know" it < 1354507421 383417 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i can't read their freaky unicode proofs < 1354507433 312233 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(have you seen them) < 1354507462 508632 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i ... am not sure. < 1354507482 370038 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Agda is also require Unicode. < 1354507488 537101 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like that. < 1354507497 122424 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually agda does not require unicode at all < 1354507517 645686 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The worse part is that you have to use Emacs. :-( < 1354507524 684559 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's actually not that bad.) < 1354507613 903656 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskell does not require Unicode, but it does supports it. Some libraries do have names only using non-ASCII, and GHC has no way to enter the name using Punycode or something like that! < 1354507631 647499 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :agda does not require unicode < 1354507641 4832 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: do you know of any agda-mode docs < 1354507653 792028 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Yes. < 1354507659 680039 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :C-h C-something < 1354507670 918174 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not good docs < 1354507677 246174 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1354507693 162235 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're not terrible either. < 1354507693 476527 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :try C-h m to get the mode's online documentation. < 1354507703 104889 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"online documentation" < 1354507709 567445 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: It's useless. < 1354507713 586093 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Also, "online documentation", really. < 1354507723 5341 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shrug. < 1354507731 63784 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Do you use emacs for anything else? < 1354507735 630892 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1354507736 512142 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometime < 1354507736 882041 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :s < 1354507768 36186 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You just have to know Emacs. < 1354507787 296239 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: btw colenses are pretty cool right?? < 1354507796 290917 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.172 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354507797 905225 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm kind of annoyed at how ugly Isomorphic etc. are. < 1354507799 420152 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yo is there something like http://www.cse.chalmers.se/~nad/listings/lib/Category.Functor.html in the stdlib but that encodes the laws < 1354507802 955177 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or do i gotta write this shit mysel < 1354507803 308621 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :f < 1354507804 51323 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome epicmonkey < 1354507807 610883 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :epicmonkey: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1354507809 399355 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://blog.opensourcenerd.com/i-can-haz-virus this person seems to have some serious misunderstandings about what wine does and doesn't provide < 1354507839 396080 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :They should add a pragma in GHC to allow you to write the names in ASCII, by specifying the quoted string of the Unicode name, and the unquoted name in ASCII; the first letter/symbol must have the same case. It also allow to specify alternative names for constructors, even if it is already ASCII. < 1354507845 282221 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also lol @ the many commenters who think the difference between user account and root on a linux desktop is super important < 1354507879 342158 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: https://github.com/copumpkin/categories/blob/master/Categories/Functor/Core.agda < 1354507904 699282 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I... don't want to use that. < 1354507912 192998 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is a really pervasive bit of cargo cult security < 1354507914 707453 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Good thinking. < 1354507922 53037 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it took me many years to realize how wrong it is < 1354507933 687251 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do i type the fancy l < 1354507934 529021 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :for levels < 1354507966 213976 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"\ell" < 1354507985 295798 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forget how emacs/agda-mode does its thing < 1354508084 86593 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ℓ? < 1354508090 692007 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does that mean? < 1354508142 805661 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that one < 1354508145 528226 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh \ell works < 1354508154 956743 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: does cabal install agda get me the stdlib < 1354508157 264719 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or do i have to do my own stuff < 1354508173 349205 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I think it works? < 1354508177 718749 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: "try it out" < 1354508187 347103 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Also you didn't answer my question. < 1354508234 444350 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1354508238 864313 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1354508311 701326 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there any 3D modeling that you can write x^2+y^2+z^2=25 and it will work? < 1354508368 842304 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the composition law for functors called < 1354508456 980035 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if it is called anything other than a composition law for functors. < 1354508506 802786 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: It doesn't find the stdlib. < 1354508601 35401 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Try apt-get install agda < 1354508610 67914 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :apt-get install agda-stdlib < 1354508642 321637 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :apt-get command not found < 1354508646 373732 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :-- my computer dot com < 1354508652 657468 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "wgpluck" command in Csound seem to be good quality of plucked string sounds. < 1354509583 228802 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.172 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1354509660 888404 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have reverb files for Stonehenge? < 1354510366 174699 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there samples of wgpluck somewhere? < 1354510449 900306 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: I don't know of any, but if you have Csound you can use the examples in http://www.csounds.com/manual/html/wgpluck.html < 1354510462 411689 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can use it with real-time or you can send output to a sound file if you want that. < 1354510530 743735 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also find using "wguide1" with PhISEM opcodes makes a nice sound too (although not a plucked string sound) < 1354510753 317759 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :alright < 1354510883 348983 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1354510895 198474 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Do you need samples of Csound? < 1354510918 323746 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I already installed it and listened to them. < 1354511154 516449 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354511567 769615 :PieBotN!~piespy@96.43.64.250 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1354512166 811927 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Quit: Reconnecting < 1354512176 103135 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1354512220 618050 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1354512384 467568 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : score < 1354512386 62245 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :------- < 1354512389 425129 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott < 1354512470 777687 :jfischoff!~jfischoff@c-67-169-45-161.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354513919 351854 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1354513940 533231 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1354513966 886996 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1354514117 538042 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-30.elisa.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1354514163 796669 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Client Quit < 1354514317 491174 :kallisti!~eris@168.28.136.16 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354514317 603022 :kallisti!~eris@168.28.136.16 QUIT :Changing host < 1354514317 603148 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1354514852 956680 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1354515029 417094 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1354515171 438211 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-30.elisa.ee PART #esoteric :"Left" < 1354515668 765888 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://whyismarko.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/food-nativity.jpg < 1354515730 499158 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1354515753 3876 :kallisti!~eris@168.28.136.16 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354515753 162910 :kallisti!~eris@168.28.136.16 QUIT :Changing host < 1354515753 236078 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1354515831 674068 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: More like #messoteric, right? < 1354515852 558736 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what was monqy doing in #haskell < 1354515864 589749 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask monqy elliott: what was monqy doing in #haskell < 1354515864 746041 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1354515887 925240 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'( < 1354515893 941144 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1354516218 559232 :ashet4!~root@adsl-ull-114-195.50-151.net24.it QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1354516249 105249 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-43-239.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1354516269 337921 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-43-239.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1354516269 410738 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1354516479 807400 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1354516693 514663 :Gregor!codu@codu.org TOPIC #esoteric :http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ | /topic: the new way to chat | How arre you? | *-r < 1354517515 393282 :ashet4!~root@adsl-ull-114-195.50-151.net24.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1354518167 62078 :evincar!~jon@173-228-13-253.dsl.static.sonic.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354518240 303633 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.172 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354518362 746061 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott TOPIC #esoteric :MEGA EXTRA SUPER FOREVER | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1354518374 455287 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott TOPIC #esoteric :qqqqq | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1354518912 791059 :Mathnerd314!~quassel@palevsky-223-221.rh.uchicago.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1354519371 961420 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I disagree with your chosen amount of Qs. < 1354519403 833917 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf TOPIC #esoteric :@ask monqy http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1354519408 272908 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.172 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1354519487 208232 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott TOPIC #esoteric :http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1354519650 109451 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1354519704 137456 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am a train. There's a wireless network in the train! < 1354519719 684439 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just not getting usd to this. < 1354519753 89696 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Getting used to being a train may be difficult, but with the right attitude you can! < 1354519783 849966 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least it gives me consolation that the connection is terribly laggy. < 1354519786 447447 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf TOPIC #esoteric :http://cоdu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1354519787 268531 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :getting USD for being a train may be even more difficult < 1354519832 707176 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: I don't know, you could rent yourself out to someone who needs a train for $$$ars. < 1354519856 535611 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :as I understand it, the money doesn't go to the train but usually to the owner of the train < 1354519885 23104 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :So... that would conventionally be my wife, I guess? < 1354519925 543268 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote I am a train. There's a wireless network in the train! < 1354519936 100799 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :861) I am a train. There's a wireless network in the train! < 1354519949 638298 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_trains_owned_by_wifes < 1354519955 810309 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"wives", olsner < 1354519992 145911 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1354519993 123789 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, the train is also going to Turku, city of oklopol. I think. < 1354520008 741540 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you going to meet oklopol < 1354520066 461531 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope not, I'm not sure I'm prepared for that. < 1354520079 180330 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can you pass up the opportunity < 1354520083 383242 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will be around what I think is his university, though. < 1354520088 1181 :jfischoff!~jfischoff@c-67-169-45-161.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: jfischoff < 1354520270 384221 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh no, this is stupid. I have this bluetooth headset that can be used as a regular headset with a cable, but when the battery is completely out (like now) it won't switch to the regular-headset mode. < 1354520298 610997 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was hoping I could be like other people and listen to signals while in a public transport vehicle. < 1354520317 594942 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1354520337 23088 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: ping < 1354520338 878556 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: ping ping ping < 1354520341 743493 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: emergency < 1354520344 650897 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: you have to meet fizzie < 1354520350 353149 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: travel to nearest train station < 1354520363 308726 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right i wanted to addquote that < 1354520366 149026 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Look for a fizzie-shaped train? < 1354520371 1182 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote I was hoping I could be like other people and listen to signals while in a public transport vehicle. < 1354520374 259997 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :862) I was hoping I could be like other people and listen to signals while in a public transport vehicle. < 1354520400 64190 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354521032 947946 :Sgeo|web!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354521037 28708 :Sgeo|web!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"SCP-411 speaks an as-yet-unknown dialect of English that has significant grammatical and vocabulary deviations from Modern English. Individuals who are to be given training in this language will benefit from a background in Spanish, Mandarin and/or Cantonese, ██████ and Haskell." < 1354521057 753437 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that entry made me chuckle < 1354521073 936426 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354521101 393188 :Sgeo|web!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I wasn't able to do the thing where I say monqy elliott < 1354521118 290510 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forgive you < 1354521192 527137 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn, I should have beat you :P < 1354521248 376973 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1354521251 713770 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :158) elliott: i like scsh's mechanism best: it's most transparent and doesn't really serve a very useful feature. < 1354521498 3383 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1354521549 300787 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1354521719 118140 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: mosh < 1354521985 299940 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Bish bosh. < 1354522277 558046 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1354522288 221978 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :488) On further reflection, I think I did manage to miss winter and spring altogether. This does explain the goblin siege I had in autumn. < 1354522374 564686 :evincar!~jon@173-228-13-253.dsl.static.sonic.net QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1354522693 198975 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: I think you are insufficiently agile. < 1354522857 769455 :ifnspifn!~ifnspifn@184.90.25.102 QUIT :Quit: ifnspifn < 1354522944 325753 :ifnspifn!~ifnspifn@184.90.25.102 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354523054 12961 :oklopol!~oklopol@agw-sparknet.utu.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1354523131 742047 :oklofok!~oklopol@agw-sparknet.utu.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1354523678 301345 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@195.206.224.60 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354525509 854276 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1354525971 608671 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Quit: Reconnecting < 1354526123 943731 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1354526420 580316 :Sgeo|web!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1354527986 819984 :ifnspifn!~ifnspifn@184.90.25.102 QUIT :Quit: ifnspifn < 1354527989 343980 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354528394 143063 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1354528955 943975 :Sgeo|MOG11111!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354528963 850617 :Sgeo|MOG11111!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Phantom_Hoover monqy < 1354528967 815898 :Sgeo|MOG11111!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: < 1354528973 825742 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mog11111 < 1354529004 789313 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :MOG11111, excuse you < 1354529071 786327 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im sorry < 1354529112 73612 :Sgeo|MOG11111!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I didn't think a nick of Sgeo|MOG!!!!! would work < 1354529118 852363 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no it's monqy < 1354529120 690635 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi monqy < 1354529131 358216 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi shachaf < 1354529135 461726 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: have you ever read the ghc inliner < 1354529153 576846 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: do you know what main:Foo.Foo{v reR} means! < 1354529200 815968 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I finally got my verbose output! < 1354529222 585664 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Considering inlining: main:Foo.Foo{v reR} [gid[DataConWrapper]] arg infos [] uf arity 0 interesting continuation ArgCtxt False some_benefit False is exp: True is work-free: True guidance ALWAYS_IF(unsat_ok=True,boring_ok=True) ANSWER = YES < 1354529274 295393 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1354529345 102568 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: yes or no < 1354529361 295006 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you were ghc you would say ANSWER = YES < 1354529365 663368 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or ANSWER = NO < 1354529398 844181 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dddont know < 1354529831 889661 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also if you’re prolog. < 1354530361 93480 :ifnspifn!~ifnspifn@184.90.25.102 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354530922 704390 :oklopol!~oklopol@agw-sparknet.utu.fi NICK :xD < 1354530949 936537 :xD!~oklopol@agw-sparknet.utu.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything is so funny i decided this will save my time < 1354530952 563801 :xD!~oklopol@agw-sparknet.utu.fi NICK :Guest7699 < 1354530959 463259 :Guest7699!~oklopol@agw-sparknet.utu.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :krhm < 1354530966 241375 :Guest7699!~oklopol@agw-sparknet.utu.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what :D < 1354530968 234041 :Guest7699!~oklopol@agw-sparknet.utu.fi NICK :oklopol < 1354530970 827396 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guest7699: fizzie is coming to yr town < 1354530973 947541 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :go meet him < 1354530990 459722 :oklopol!~oklopol@agw-sparknet.utu.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :[12:35:10] -NickServ- This nickname is registered. Please choose a different nickname, or identify via /msg NickServ identify . < 1354530991 638372 :oklopol!~oklopol@agw-sparknet.utu.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :- < 1354530991 872716 :oklopol!~oklopol@agw-sparknet.utu.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :[12:35:10] -NickServ- You have 30 seconds to identify to your nickname before it is changed. < 1354530991 945545 :oklopol!~oklopol@agw-sparknet.utu.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :- < 1354530991 945706 :oklopol!~oklopol@agw-sparknet.utu.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :[12:35:39] -NickServ- You failed to identify in time for the nickname Xd < 1354530992 359293 :oklopol!~oklopol@agw-sparknet.utu.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1354531025 953946 :oklopol!~oklopol@agw-sparknet.utu.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :he is? < 1354531037 298396 :atriq!~Taneb@mail.qehs.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354531057 360881 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1354531060 853381 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :he may even be there right now < 1354531061 269657 :atriq!~Taneb@mail.qehs.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes indeed < 1354531083 399011 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: apparently he's going to your university-abouts < 1354531083 890141 :oklopol!~oklopol@agw-sparknet.utu.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: where should we meet? < 1354531088 393743 :oklopol!~oklopol@agw-sparknet.utu.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i read < 1354531179 851956 :epicmonkey_!~epicmonke@host-224-60.dataart.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354531198 472818 :atriq!~Taneb@mail.qehs.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm kind of bored of being atriq < 1354531200 961194 :atriq!~Taneb@mail.qehs.net NICK :Taneb < 1354531210 155986 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@195.206.224.60 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1354531528 834517 :Taneb!~Taneb@mail.qehs.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aaargh < 1354531840 756866 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`whoami < 1354531844 440832 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoami: cannot find name for user ID 5000 < 1354531844 598072 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1354531847 631221 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`id -a < 1354531851 291000 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :uid=5000 gid=873786 < 1354531854 656928 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`id -a < 1354531860 522748 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :uid=5000 gid=787581 < 1354531862 453999 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pft. Why can't we be root? < 1354531903 4096 :Deewiant!~deewiant@109.75.188.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`id -G < 1354531906 576085 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :736514 < 1354531923 32732 :Deewiant!~deewiant@109.75.188.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`id -Z < 1354531926 914621 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :id: --context (-Z) works only on an SELinux-enabled kernel < 1354532607 882050 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1354532813 710622 :ifnspifn!~ifnspifn@184.90.25.102 QUIT :Quit: ifnspifn < 1354533018 349793 :Taneb!~Taneb@mail.qehs.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1354533131 17298 :atriq!~Taneb@mail.qehs.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354533329 646794 :atriq!~Taneb@mail.qehs.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How is the topic link doing that < 1354533341 898231 :atriq!~Taneb@mail.qehs.net NICK :Taneb < 1354533388 478684 :Deewiant!~deewiant@109.75.188.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doing what < 1354533408 930273 :Taneb!~Taneb@mail.qehs.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I click it and say open in browser, it goes to http://xn--cdu-sed.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1354533438 968813 :Deewiant!~deewiant@109.75.188.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The 'o' is cyrillic < 1354533445 656733 :Deewiant!~deewiant@109.75.188.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+043E CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER O < 1354533452 241925 :Taneb!~Taneb@mail.qehs.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, crazy < 1354533489 403411 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf TOPIC #esoteric :http://cоdu.org/lоgs/_еsоtеric/ < 1354533506 265585 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf TOPIC #esoteric :http://соdu.оrg/lоgs/_еsоtеric/ < 1354533646 540716 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott TOPIC #esoteric :http codu logs esoteric < 1354533714 538509 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1354533894 425796 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :xanadu-sed.org < 1354534304 408563 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf TOPIC #esoteric : < 1354534474 533699 :Taneb!~Taneb@mail.qehs.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1354536282 11090 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354536399 876444 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: any idea what's up with http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?title=OISC&curid=1012&diff=34930&oldid=33316? < 1354536428 205581 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure the link actually is relevant -- I can't tell what it's on about and certainly it is in the wrong section -- but the commentless removal is a bit odd < 1354536506 425142 :Deewiant!~deewiant@109.75.188.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The link talks about OISCs < 1354536595 353160 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354536943 871213 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is this about meeting people. :/ < 1354536964 50966 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am at the ICT building, I think I'll be mostly in hiding. < 1354537026 600349 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: fizzie is at the ICT building < 1354537028 510769 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :go meet him < 1354537063 388270 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Seppo Pulkkinen, Department of Mathematics and Statistics, University of Turku" is this guy from your guys? < 1354537073 800829 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's talking about something. < 1354537119 202943 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll be here in this thing until 18 and my train away leaves Kupittaa at 19, so there. < 1354537155 505075 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: THERE'S NOT MUCH TIME < 1354537234 82174 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey elliott did you do that thing < 1354537331 212359 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I AM BUSY ORGANISING A MEETING OF FINNS < 1354537357 439038 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can run worldgen in the background while doing that! < 1354537405 548468 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Without fully devoting my attention to it???? < 1354537407 432350 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would be sloppy < 1354537463 496636 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's worldgen man, you just watch 3 numbers increment at an ever-slower rate < 1354537495 181174 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is why you are hopeless Phantom_Hoover < 1354537997 702301 :ashet4!~root@adsl-ull-114-195.50-151.net24.it PART :#esoteric < 1354538306 453195 :Sgeo|MOG11111!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is sleep? < 1354538344 148365 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is MOG11111 < 1354538378 844472 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter PRIVMSG #esoteric :sleep is that time of the day when people don't pay attention as I break into their kitchens looking steal'em cookies < 1354538421 561115 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1354538528 25778 :nortti!nortti@dsl-hkibrasgw3-ff25c000-52.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :sleep is what happens when you have too much blood in your caffeine circulation < 1354538551 704796 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's kinda gross nortti < 1354538566 464374 :nortti!nortti@dsl-hkibrasgw3-ff25c000-52.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :in what way? < 1354538587 133051 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :blood in my caffeine??gross < 1354538987 407193 :Taneb!~Taneb@mail.qehs.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354539155 213250 :Taneb!~Taneb@mail.qehs.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just caused some nostalgia < 1354539164 650489 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1354539274 678261 :nortti!nortti@dsl-hkibrasgw3-ff25c000-52.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :how? < 1354539324 892818 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1354539372 132739 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-43-239.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1354539372 205578 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-43-239.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1354539372 205745 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1354539374 593597 :Taneb!~Taneb@mail.qehs.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reminded a couple of people of something they were planning to make years ago < 1354539487 18372 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1354539493 396915 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354540070 40498 :epicmonkey_!~epicmonke@host-224-60.dataart.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1354540498 613404 :Taneb!~Taneb@mail.qehs.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1354540801 290209 :epicmonkey_!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354540821 208552 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523 < 1354541502 86112 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1354541516 768741 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354542201 182425 :oklopol!~oklopol@agw-sparknet.utu.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: seppo works in the same tiny building as me < 1354542206 281382 :oklopol!~oklopol@agw-sparknet.utu.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've never talked to him < 1354542225 802864 :oklopol!~oklopol@agw-sparknet.utu.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :waaaait < 1354542228 566633 :oklopol!~oklopol@agw-sparknet.utu.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :different seppo :D < 1354542264 511485 :oklopol!~oklopol@agw-sparknet.utu.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh okay < 1354542266 319566 :oklopol!~oklopol@agw-sparknet.utu.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :same seppo < 1354542433 667182 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: go go go < 1354542442 344838 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to get to the ICT building!!! < 1354542443 782344 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1354542462 913300 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :blorgh < 1354542468 47325 :oklopol!~oklopol@agw-sparknet.utu.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe next time < 1354542531 428860 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :where's the topic? < 1354542540 97527 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: wtf < 1354542548 75790 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: you are depriving fizzie of a once-in-a-lifetime experience to meet oklopol!! < 1354542556 262776 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also: the first #esoteric meeting ever < 1354542564 655568 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1354542623 235916 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :This Seppo is talking about "Optimization Algorithms for Large-Scale and Robust Dimensionality Reduction" soon. < 1354542654 381708 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's going to involve numbers. < 1354542692 573738 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: RUN < 1354542710 928664 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :RUN AWAY < 1354542778 705211 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354543206 220702 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1354543311 784277 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you have to convince oklopol to travel a short distance to see fizzie, right now < 1354543455 610280 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And fizzie to not run away and hide from the impending oklopol. < 1354543547 810721 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: in fact < 1354543557 775278 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: i'll pay you 30 pounds gbp to go do it < 1354543635 183999 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24.52.224.101 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354543637 746050 :oklopol!~oklopol@agw-sparknet.utu.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1354543668 834885 :oklopol!~oklopol@agw-sparknet.utu.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry i have works to do :( < 1354544121 316822 :arcatan!arcatan@hilla.kapsi.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott seems to be passionate about this < 1354544184 661996 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1354544250 117952 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :arcatan: it is of great theological importance < 1354544391 406238 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354545069 39448 :Taneb!~Taneb@mail.qehs.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354545128 212886 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1354545151 854610 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1354545315 125223 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354545854 551072 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354546016 981462 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1354546153 771420 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1354546387 966003 :ais523_!93bcc348@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.72 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354546559 454741 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1354546595 462950 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1354546852 450265 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354547404 296226 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354547406 833472 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Client Quit < 1354547444 327591 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354547786 801721 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1354547956 965265 :Taneb!~Taneb@mail.qehs.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1354548082 335080 :Taneb!~Taneb@mail.qehs.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354548182 800635 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1354548914 586082 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354549153 870268 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1354549355 246032 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.40.155 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354549600 166728 :Taneb!~Taneb@mail.qehs.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's quiet here < 1354549737 376288 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :gu < 1354549739 656337 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1354549831 443073 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1354549836 256465 :ais523_!93bcc348@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.72 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1354549844 929477 :ais523_!93bcc348@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.72 PRIVMSG #esoteric :remember oracle versus google? < 1354549863 52008 :ais523_!93bcc348@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.72 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I, umm, may have paraphrased the spec for rangeCheck and set it as an exercise for a bunch of first years < 1354549954 787910 :ais523_!93bcc348@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.72 PRIVMSG #esoteric :around half of them got it exactly on spec, which is less than I expected < 1354550319 426410 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1354550550 346950 :Taneb!~Taneb@mail.qehs.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1354550804 433399 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-300.yok.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1354551633 259265 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.40.155 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1354552017 390128 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-300.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i didn't meet FireFly < 1354552018 802783 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-300.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1354552021 84220 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-300.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: < 1354552023 635703 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-300.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1354552026 938049 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-300.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie < 1354552036 128803 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-300.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i met seppo on his way back from the thingie < 1354552100 298745 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh seppo. And the thingie. Ha ha ha, I'm participating. < 1354552504 912925 :ais523_!93bcc348@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.72 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what thingie? < 1354552976 112251 :ais523_!93bcc348@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.72 PRIVMSG #esoteric :suggested type for an esolang: int™ < 1354553447 49064 :Arc_Koen_!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354553456 965897 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1354553457 38689 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1354553459 295928 :iamcal!u1110@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vuojncesvqtsrpww QUIT :*.net *.split < 1354553461 314956 :Arc_Koen_!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net NICK :Arc_Koen < 1354553624 946774 :Frooxius_!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1354553719 313287 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1354553784 201791 :Frooxius_!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz NICK :Frooxius < 1354553831 811434 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354553846 633968 :iamcal!u1110@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ndgcbqyqfcdfinps JOIN :#esoteric < 1354553935 525627 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: It's all right, I kind of had to go eat with the Hatutus folks. < 1354553955 126679 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-300.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's hatututs < 1354553957 574897 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-300.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hatutus < 1354553958 381175 :epicmonkey_!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1354553958 539136 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though now my 19:06 train has been delayed to 19:24. < 1354553970 264143 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pattern recognition research society. < 1354553983 180117 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahmontunnistustutkimuksen seura. < 1354554004 93900 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was our twice-a-year meeting/seminar that I was here for. < 1354554100 274608 :truckngear06!~Jeremy@24-231-195-104.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1354554119 565922 :truckngear06!~Jeremy@24-231-195-104.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats up < 1354554136 231189 :ais523_!93bcc348@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.72 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1354554139 366047 :ais523_!93bcc348@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.72 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do I recognise you? < 1354554146 101005 :truckngear06!~Jeremy@24-231-195-104.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no sir < 1354554152 757609 :ais523_!93bcc348@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.72 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome truckngear06 < 1354554156 44673 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :truckngear06: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1354554156 997453 :truckngear06!~Jeremy@24-231-195-104.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ty < 1354554158 537520 :truckngear06!~Jeremy@24-231-195-104.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :can u see my ip ? < 1354554162 847461 :ais523_!93bcc348@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.72 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, HackEgo was fast that time < 1354554174 184877 :ais523_!93bcc348@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.72 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes, 24.231.195.104, or possibly 104.195.231.24 < 1354554182 219497 :truckngear06!~Jeremy@24-231-195-104.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :just wondering < 1354554223 742705 :ais523_!93bcc348@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.72 PRIVMSG #esoteric :connecting anywhere on the internet sends your IP to the site you connect to < 1354554266 888773 :truckngear06!~Jeremy@24-231-195-104.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup < 1354554314 570601 :truckngear06!~Jeremy@24-231-195-104.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :who plays black ops 2 < 1354554319 113117 :truckngear06!~Jeremy@24-231-195-104.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :xbox 360 < 1354554390 577200 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-300.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: do you know seppo? < 1354554422 11768 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: No, I just listened to his talk. < 1354554434 654076 :truckngear06!~Jeremy@24-231-195-104.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cya gonna play some black ops < 1354554435 212882 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-300.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :was it awesome < 1354554464 688635 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_: Hey, your computer may be broadcasting an IP address. < 1354554556 955477 :truckngear06!~Jeremy@24-231-195-104.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com PART :#esoteric < 1354554658 14146 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: I... suppose? It was about doing this one thing faster than other people do that thing. He claimed he's the only one from "his people" dabbling with anything pattern-recognition related. < 1354554678 491576 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-300.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's that thing < 1354554678 960550 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is he the last of his people < 1354554707 577203 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are his people fools with no vision of the future < 1354554752 832133 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: It was the optimization problem related to this maximum-variance based dimensionality reduction method that works well if there's an underlying low-dimensional description for the points of the high-dimensional dataset. < 1354554787 439343 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also there was a thing about doing it well even if the data is a bit noisy and not strictly on the low-dimensional thing. < 1354554795 986335 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-300.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see < 1354554829 134336 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Based on projecting it onto a thing formed by ridges of the density function of the data set. < 1354554854 475784 :ais523_!93bcc348@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.72 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, that channel join was weird < 1354554868 463045 :ais523_!93bcc348@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.72 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we get people like that in #nethack sometimes, mislead by the name < 1354554870 865899 :ais523_!93bcc348@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.72 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but #esoteric? < 1354554896 352032 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh no, battery low. < 1354554906 910025 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was electricity just a moment ago. < 1354554923 588151 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suspect this phone is "acting up" occasionally. < 1354554944 785190 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh well, I'll just wait until the train gets here. -> < 1354554953 155092 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, now it's 19:34. < 1354555065 106550 :ais523_!93bcc348@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.72 QUIT : < 1354555576 201146 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354555752 612230 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah #hackage got some of those too :) < 1354555887 290309 :sebbu2!~sebbu@83.194.57.239 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354555904 500360 :sebbu2!~sebbu@83.194.57.239 QUIT :Changing host < 1354555904 575123 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1354555904 575182 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354555904 662800 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1354555916 606256 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523 < 1354555970 983147 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1354556078 581672 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1354556651 297523 :sebbu2!~sebbu@83.194.57.239 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354556667 798425 :sebbu2!~sebbu@83.194.57.239 QUIT :Changing host < 1354556667 872249 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1354556704 319422 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.40.155 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354556833 244853 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1354557215 593405 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bleh. Left 19:49, 43 minutes late. Is this the famed Finnish punctuality? (Okay, there is no such thing.) < 1354557238 694264 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1354557258 319353 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1354557594 961417 :ifnspifn!~ifnspifn@184.90.25.102 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354557861 284804 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1354558133 363807 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1354558287 671001 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: So if you have a set of 4D points < 1354558311 710711 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the fourth coordinate is just random quantised noise between -0.5 and 0.5 < 1354558316 209090 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it going to work well? < 1354558323 358640 :epicmonkey_!~epicmonke@188.134.41.172 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354558535 376845 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1354558542 967689 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: Don't ask me, ask Seppo. Maybe it will. That kind of thing *is* one of the common types of toy data; many methods do suppress that sort of thing pretty well. < 1354558916 407096 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24.52.224.101 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1354559115 470132 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1354559438 555395 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-43-239.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1354559458 2472 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-43-239.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1354559458 75841 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1354559633 305085 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1354559963 431164 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: did you meet oklofok? < 1354560038 580490 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: I did not. < 1354560058 38483 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such a loss for the advancement of the human race &c. < 1354560108 976422 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-300.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'( < 1354560122 144888 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :a day of mourning for all of oklokind < 1354560306 86978 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This is not a national day of mourning in Helsinki, Finland's capital -- these are Finns in their natural state: brooding, private, grimly in touch with no-one but themselves." < 1354560325 919832 :nortti!nortti@dsl-hkibrasgw3-ff25c000-52.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1354560344 95100 :nortti!nortti@dsl-hkibrasgw3-ff25c000-52.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :tht sound about right < 1354560403 74362 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :So started a "60 minutes" (US TV show) segment about tango's popularity in Finland. < 1354560413 835185 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was apparently considered quite rude. < 1354560426 975327 :nortti!nortti@dsl-hkibrasgw3-ff25c000-52.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :strange < 1354560439 37078 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The visuals were random clips from Helsinki streets. < 1354560463 978260 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Admittedly the adjectives described them quite well. < 1354560563 83520 :arcatan!arcatan@hilla.kapsi.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :tango is rude? < 1354560579 342403 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :No the show was rude. < 1354560587 875529 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though I'm not sure if early morning commuters (especially in bad weather) tend to look all that happy anywhere. < 1354560595 86439 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or at least manywhere. < 1354560603 412356 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :manywhere, nice word < 1354560632 336344 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like "anywhere" except not meaning quite all the places, just many of them. < 1354560709 838532 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-300.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :not all finns like the antisocial stereotype? < 1354560712 375651 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354560726 537656 :nortti!nortti@dsl-hkibrasgw3-ff25c000-52.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1354560731 221888 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-300.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't we have like the best one there is < 1354560737 170795 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I think 'anywhere' sometimes means something more like 'somewhere' ... feels a bit like universal/existential quantification < 1354560767 516063 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe there should also be a 'fewwhere' < 1354560815 984362 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: As I understood it, the show was just considered taking the thing too far. But I'unno. < 1354560840 93804 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"THigh quality global journalism requires investment. Please share this article with others using the link below, do not cut & paste the article. See our Ts&Cs and Copyright Policy for more detail. Email ftsales.support@ft.com to buy additional rights. http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/2e33f00e-a36e-11e1-ab98-00144feabdc0.html#ixzz2E15YAoQo < 1354560846 232659 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :What. < 1354560857 57650 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :thigh quality! < 1354560862 233219 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You stupid piece of stupidest stupidity. < 1354560878 396486 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hadn't highlighted the initial "T" so I typed it myself. < 1354560888 197891 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-300.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't get it, it's not even racist because most finns are white < 1354560980 971544 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-300.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :also do i need to register < 1354560991 686633 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, feel free to peruse the link, if you want to visit a page which programmatically ejaculates stupidity all over a copy-paste. < 1354561034 352983 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't need to. < 1354561049 789749 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently there is a "8 free articles per month" thing. < 1354561068 145781 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :So be careful about wasting one of your valuable free articles for *that*. < 1354561096 503689 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The report goes on to say that the prescriptive tango dance sessions, with their set times when men can ask women to dance or the other way around, are perfect for shy Finns and that the lessons and dances give them a “licence to touch” one another." < 1354561108 527033 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There you go, that's what I wanted to paste. < 1354561133 363370 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I pasted it ALL OVER. All over the Internet. It's probably in dozens of places now. < 1354561145 637844 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you like that, FT? < 1354561229 194649 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :This train, it is exactly an hour late. < 1354561284 362754 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The next TurkufHelsinki train was supposed to leave an hour after this one, I wonder if it's right behind there. < 1354561294 228452 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :TurkufHelsinki. Yes. < 1354561391 349358 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-300.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1354561427 67046 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-300.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :also 8 whole articles? that's huge < 1354562001 384649 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1354562088 313260 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1354562124 45749 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1354562128 476113 :nortti!nortti@dsl-hkibrasgw3-ff25c000-52.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1354562138 439860 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :No more topic :( < 1354562151 505361 :nortti!nortti@dsl-hkibrasgw3-ff25c000-52.dhcp.inet.fi TOPIC #esoteric :< AnotherTest> No more topic :( < 1354562159 56030 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it's just invisible. < 1354562166 164676 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, now it's not. < 1354562177 904054 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay! I'm in the topic. < 1354562187 454050 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there is no link to the logs now! < 1354562257 201432 :Gregor!codu@codu.org TOPIC #esoteric :< AnotherTest> No more topic :( | No more logs :( < 1354562294 348892 :nortti!nortti@dsl-hkibrasgw3-ff25c000-52.dhcp.inet.fi TOPIC #esoteric :< AnotherTest> No more topic :( | No more logs :( | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1354562307 946624 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354562315 538326 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se TOPIC #esoteric :No more :( < 1354562321 195913 :Gregor!codu@codu.org TOPIC #esoteric :Logs: http://5z8.info/turkeyporn_o4u1vn_molotovcocktail < 1354562344 944695 :nortti!nortti@dsl-hkibrasgw3-ff25c000-52.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1354562430 768176 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gobble gobble < 1354562433 271312 :nortti!nortti@dsl-hkibrasgw3-ff25c000-52.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did you get so legit url? < 1354562440 565377 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shadyurl.com < 1354562457 607381 :nortti!nortti@dsl-hkibrasgw3-ff25c000-52.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1354562596 883828 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :... two people in the cubes next to me are arguing about using oil vs butter in brownies X_X < 1354562647 447406 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :if brownies is similar to what I think it is similar to, oil doesn't work < 1354562737 476598 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about oil v. butten in ponies? < 1354562741 681883 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Butten. < 1354562746 969171 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Butten butten. < 1354562753 690108 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: You sick, sick fuck. < 1354562761 391732 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :derfinertly butten < 1354562773 620982 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :CLICK THE PONY BUTTON < 1354564547 276709 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1354564547 666560 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-30.elisa.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1354564608 945929 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-142-60-139.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1354564942 541657 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1354565093 358232 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1354565590 81587 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-43-239.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1354565608 527756 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-43-239.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1354565608 601095 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1354565632 190144 :jfischoff!~jfischoff@c-67-169-45-161.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354565778 25745 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1354566042 288632 :jfischoff!~jfischoff@c-67-169-45-161.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: jfischoff < 1354566666 15790 :david_werecat!~david_wer@205.211.50.170 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354566701 820530 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-30.elisa.ee PART #esoteric :"Left" < 1354566846 971353 :jfischoff!~jfischoff@c-67-169-45-161.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354567089 910060 :epicmonkey_!~epicmonke@188.134.41.172 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1354567580 584432 :david_werecat!~david_wer@205.211.50.170 QUIT :Quit: Quitting... < 1354568047 409775 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : sleep is that time of the day when people don't pay attention as I break into their kitchens looking steal'em cookies <-- i suggest not trying that with me. < 1354568157 409358 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : oklopol: you are depriving fizzie of a once-in-a-lifetime experience to meet oklopol!! <-- has anyone on this channel ever successfully met oklopol? < 1354568197 296461 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think oklofok has. < 1354568214 936235 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fellow clones don't count, fizzie < 1354568253 201629 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : and also: the first #esoteric meeting ever <-- oh. < 1354568260 914036 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe we should all go visit oklopol at the same time some time < 1354568271 511152 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION om nom ? :(
< 1354568281 983796 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :... and get murdered by his 15 clones < 1354568332 876315 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :c00kiemon5ter: (1) i don't sleep at sane times (2) i have no cookies afaik. (although there is milk chocolate.) < 1354568349 116603 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've technically met some #esoteric people; mooz, ineiros, and sort of unidirectionally Deewiant in that he's seen me several times but I still don't know what he looks like. < 1354568354 573443 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(1)(*) except by accident < 1354568387 677716 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you count "technically", maybe you'd have to count IRC and that's boring < 1354568460 90109 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The first two are "technically" in the "#esoteric people" aspect (mooz hasn't been here in a long time, ineiros is mute) while the last is "technically" in the "meet" aspect. < 1354568516 442150 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i must have met [[User:Rune]] from the wiki at some time, although this was surely before #esoteric existed. < 1354568521 136702 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Have you met any of the people here? < 1354568521 885162 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: later tell sjamaan also, the convention of returning the offset. i normally do that, though < 1354568534 878910 :arcatan!arcatan@hilla.kapsi.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've met some of the guys here before joining this channel. hmm. < 1354568542 542541 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think shachaf and kmc have met. < 1354568547 637412 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1354568563 455125 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least it's the sort of "vibe" I've gotten from there. < 1354568571 329255 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354568573 389658 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wink, wink. < 1354568624 398054 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, shachaf and kmc have a vibe? good for them! < 1354568626 187440 :arcatan!arcatan@hilla.kapsi.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"unidirectionally meeting people" is a great term < 1354568668 430031 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose it doesn't really count as a "#esoteric meet" unless the meeting happens first on-channel and only later in real life, possibly even with a causal relationship to the on-channel meeting. < 1354568706 64759 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: my chances are truly slim, then. < 1354568724 965090 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since there's a connotation of the channel having brought the people involved together. < 1354568813 971285 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well what if they first met irl but it didn't work out and then they met again on the channel and realized how much they shared < 1354568843 884948 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :very romantic! < 1354568872 231232 :Deewiant!~deewiant@109.75.188.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I've met arcatan. < 1354568910 488625 :arcatan!arcatan@hilla.kapsi.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, we've met < 1354568933 27818 :arcatan!arcatan@hilla.kapsi.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've also met Lumpio- and nortti, and unidirectionally met at least atehwa < 1354568943 188452 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Are you sure you're not thinking of HackEgo? < 1354568944 393763 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: Poulet! < 1354568952 738648 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354568970 341222 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :8) < 1354568993 853429 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : arcatan: it is of great theological importance <-- it would provide nearly incontrovertible proof that the people on #esoteric are not just figments of imagination! < 1354569012 567899 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is arcatan some kind of a Finn too? I mean, that's a very suspicious list. < 1354569029 846436 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, I've met at least four people in this channel. < 1354569031 965664 :arcatan!arcatan@hilla.kapsi.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :the programming kind < 1354569033 271030 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: /whois corroborates that < 1354569047 692852 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not including myself and lambdabot. < 1354569047 843019 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? finland < 1354569059 741244 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finland is a European country. There are two people in Finland, and at least nine of them are in this channel. Corun drives the bus. < 1354569120 620774 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :/whois corun show up a not-very-finnish looking whowas < 1354569123 153687 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*s < 1354569153 129514 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't have to be finnish to drive the bus < 1354569155 147537 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Well, no one said that sentence has anything to do with the preceding two. Corun drives the bus. < 1354569167 137803 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which bus < 1354569181 286054 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: AAAA < 1354569184 331384 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: the bus that Corun drives < 1354569186 880131 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The usual interpretation of that would be the Corun drives the bus of Finland (yes, *the* bus) < 1354569190 169454 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was assuming the finnish bus. < 1354569193 8564 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would you need multiple buses for a country with only two people < 1354569204 893084 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :silly question......................... < 1354569213 207875 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially when 9 of them are on IRC and don't need bussing around in the first place < 1354569323 278921 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1354569346 154239 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: to get from one end of the country to the other?? < 1354569357 874318 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: use logic next time ok < 1354569432 229664 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : oklofok: I... suppose? It was about doing this one thing faster than other people do that thing. He claimed he's the only one from "his people" dabbling with anything pattern-recognition related. < 1354569450 530092 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i get this vibe fizzie is becoming more similar to fungot, in that dog/owner sense < 1354569451 316564 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: richard stallman, fnord, desolation, and fnord is on the eso forum to demonstrate. < 1354569453 431586 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :pattern recognition < 1354569473 158444 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :less fnords, i guess < 1354569477 221796 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*fewer < 1354569552 746405 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :pattern recognition < 1354569561 518354 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's tartan < 1354569586 168156 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's plaid to see < 1354569602 674266 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not like fungot! The whole idea is ludicrous. That sword alone can't stop. < 1354569603 387627 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ccnum.scm released. http://www.neilvandyke.org/ weblog/". tell me if astyle works on fnord < 1354569638 988528 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...i cannot `addquote a conversation including me, can i? < 1354569643 84117 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*may not < 1354569668 749045 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing's stopping you, but if you do, you'll be killed and fed to starving children. < 1354569675 5329 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh < 1354569676 817899 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: Poulet! < 1354569681 950252 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :So all said and done it's a good deed. < 1354569684 641592 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354569719 762308 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :very tempting, then < 1354569745 709225 :Gregor!codu@codu.org TOPIC #esoteric :Logs: http://5z8.info/turkeyporn_o4u1vn_molotovcocktail#gobblegobble < 1354569763 649077 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :22:07 < oerjan> very romantic! < 1354569764 432107 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :22:21 < oerjan> very tempting, then < 1354569766 279551 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes shachaf and i have met irl < 1354569769 336289 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see a pattern here < 1354569776 37868 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :once at boston python and once at the stripe ctf meetup in sf < 1354569779 377640 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and maybe another time < 1354569787 711293 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we are more awkward in person < 1354569789 368113 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: is it plaid? < 1354569796 257254 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :very plaid! < 1354569815 162747 :arcatan!arcatan@hilla.kapsi.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, does anyone know about a programming language based on minimization? like the µ operator for µ-recursive functions < 1354569837 692834 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :or < 1354569842 52423 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :well plaid, oerjan < 1354570053 138135 :Sgeo|MOG11111!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1354570221 724816 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : hmm, I think 'anywhere' sometimes means something more like 'somewhere' ... feels a bit like universal/existential quantification <-- maybe, but recall that scandinavian languages don't have distinct words for english "some" and "any" < 1354570286 909663 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@where any < 1354570287 105965 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know nothing about any. < 1354570291 451809 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google trebla any all some < 1354570293 117944 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.vex.net/~trebla/weblog/any-all-some.html < 1354570293 191300 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: Any, For All, Exists < 1354570772 530971 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-69-115.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354570921 871663 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :back to your old atriq < 1354570930 87131 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-69-115.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Different computer < 1354570935 860225 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-69-115.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Different settings < 1354570949 864452 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-69-115.opaltelecom.net NICK :Ngevd < 1354570951 550911 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you order a klein bottle shipped via USPS/UPS/DHL/whatever, will the tracking page say "volume: 0"? < 1354570965 574252 :Ngevd!~nathan@host-84-13-69-115.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, if it's not in a box < 1354570965 730669 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1354570966 560900 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you order helium balloons does it have a negative weight < 1354570979 707941 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think usps usually ships through the fourth dimension < 1354570998 871973 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no NICK :oerjan_ < 1354571001 84112 :oerjan_!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boo < 1354571002 490287 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if they measure mass or weight. I mean, the do state it in grams. < 1354571002 899996 :Ngevd!~nathan@host-84-13-69-115.opaltelecom.net NICK :Taneb < 1354571008 19288 :oerjan_!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no NICK :oerjan < 1354571068 781399 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(By way of context, according to the post office parcel tracking system, what they're delivering to me has a mass of 0.00 kg and a volume of 0 m^3, but I didn't order a massless klein bottle.) < 1354571091 483521 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rot13 Taneb < 1354571091 705805 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gnaro < 1354571107 90757 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rot13 FireFly < 1354571107 493690 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :SverSyl < 1354571112 327237 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rot14 Gnarly. < 1354571117 946372 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rot13 Gnarly. < 1354571118 292316 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneyl. < 1354571123 142512 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1354571143 442020 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i'm sorry, only dour puns allowed today < 1354571154 397342 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rot13 ion oerjan monqy < 1354571154 800220 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :vba brewna zbadl < 1354571173 107855 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds like an incantation. < 1354571181 844090 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1354571190 521248 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ia, ia, vba brewna zbadl! < 1354571211 379573 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1354571389 40644 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1354571548 405960 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1354571577 398436 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: Poulet! < 1354571622 472107 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rot13 shub niggurat < 1354571622 830290 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuho avttheng < 1354571637 171006 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rot13 shub niggurath < 1354571637 595729 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuho avtthengu < 1354571645 843562 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rot13 fizzie fungot < 1354571646 236907 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :svmmvr shatbg < 1354571658 652711 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rot13 olsner oklofok oklopol < 1354571659 121864 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :byfare bxybsbx bxybcby < 1354571660 889364 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-69-115.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Summer shitbag? < 1354571790 48829 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Did you hear that? < 1354571790 711865 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: still had the older version) somewhere else. what unclear in that? :) < 1354571805 368370 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354571822 135047 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1354571824 417171 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1354571867 767068 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1354571878 582138 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354571931 998092 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rot13 ehird < 1354571932 388652 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruveq < 1354571992 988078 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354572013 464005 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-142-60-139.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :byfare < 1354572346 975384 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1354572861 734100 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354572933 346334 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1354573149 462039 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-69-115.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1354573444 978615 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.40.155 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rot13 shachaf < 1354573445 301147 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :funpuns < 1354573457 20118 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: nånstans, varsomhelst, överallt? < 1354573469 788953 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :not as systematic as X-where, but whatever < 1354573509 297776 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354573663 456283 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1354573674 288914 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: anywhere can also be translated as nånstans in some uses < 1354573814 14030 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what I was referring to < 1354573828 927292 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Would that Hotspot trick help for something like GHC's GC, where it does a comparison and conditional jump on every allocation? < 1354573837 269411 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :some = nån, any = nån or vilkensomhelst, depending on meaning (modulo actual swedish spelling) < 1354573843 89064 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose the overhead of a page fault is too high for how often it needs to GC. < 1354573848 846657 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: maybe < 1354573863 488949 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1354573872 399845 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you might use it for cheap checkpoints in allocation-free loops < 1354573878 22241 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: ONLY DOUR PUNS, I SAID < 1354573878 570378 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but ezyang has a different clever solution < 1354573881 65806 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that i think is implemented < 1354573908 746327 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's that solution? < 1354573911 855444 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.40.155 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is dour < 1354573951 49130 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: säg ett datum, vilket som helst (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QXL-o8DQM4) < 1354573961 778359 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: almost the opposite of fun < 1354573962 193007 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you compile your loops with whatever check, and then you copy that page of code and make another page which is exactly the same except that the checks are replaced by NOPs < 1354573980 146979 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: um "datum" isn't a common norwegian word, please clarify < 1354573980 460154 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan has a dour odour. < 1354573981 985650 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then when another thread wants to make your thread stop at a checkpoint, it masks the appropriate bit in the instruction pointer < 1354574027 431163 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: date < 1354574039 343709 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 december *ducks* < 1354574045 662527 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. calendar date, not the fruit or the activity < 1354574072 699028 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the fruit is spelt date? < 1354574081 581488 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think so < 1354574088 958124 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1354574120 90987 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :A date with a date. < 1354574150 530643 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(SO MANY MEANINGS!) < 1354574186 98950 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :a date had a date with a date, but the date forgot the date < 1354574217 460140 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the future refused to change. < 1354574917 691557 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so here's a language: < 1354574927 98565 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :each program is a pair (n, p) < 1354574945 862115 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :where n is a natural number < 1354575012 215752 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and p a program in befunge-93, except with unbounded playfield (instructions p and g have access to an infinite grid) < 1354575078 567957 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well numbers on the befunge stack are bounded so let's say that it's an infinity of bound * bound squares, and p and g can only affect cells in the square the ip currently is in, or something < 1354575096 721113 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so running the program (n, p) is similar to running p as befunge < 1354575115 901890 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :except that every instruction goes along with an accumulator < 1354575134 348804 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if ever one instruction's accumulator goes higher than n execution halts < 1354575152 109373 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :prove tc (you have two hours) < 1354575229 552821 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :may the nonzero subset of the field be unbounded? May it be aperiodic? < 1354575236 7286 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :um is the accumulator tied to the spot in the playfield? < 1354575287 205667 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :if aperiodic, it's quite trivial < 1354575311 874533 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think you need that. finite initial setup should be sufficient. < 1354575349 727249 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure I understand your questions < 1354575361 406953 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :idea is playfield is infinite and each cell has an accumulator < 1354575370 352906 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, each cell. < 1354575383 744240 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but is the initial program infinite? < 1354575387 954317 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1354575397 327331 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you get p and g < 1354575428 265590 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i think you can do a turing machine that copies itself in some direction each step < 1354575434 198774 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the idea < 1354575437 638675 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if n = 1 < 1354575448 676847 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need a big n, obviously < 1354575454 99294 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if n = 1 then creating a new instruction costs you an instruction < 1354575469 416815 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, n isn't provided < 1354575469 815353 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1354575485 601765 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, this seems doable < 1354575524 134481 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also: is there some constant N such that the subset of pairs (N, p) is also turing-complete? < 1354575540 203132 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes i think so < 1354575548 925196 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would force you to write quining befunge programs :) < 1354575561 755560 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...you have to do that anyhow < 1354575612 217935 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or perhaps a cellular automaton is more intuitive than a TM here < 1354575646 433132 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :("that" was the whole thing, not the bound on n < 1354575648 835749 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a 1d one) < 1354575666 22527 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which "that"? < 1354575680 249048 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1354575704 606659 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd just use i < 1354575735 210642 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i would then represent each CA cell as a subsquare of the befunge program that takes care of copying itself to the next level and calculating the right CA value to put there < 1354575985 336119 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you write anything into an empty square, though? < 1354575999 399982 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that what p does? < 1354576002 414012 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The p doing the writing would have to be in that square. < 1354576006 966278 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not cell, square. < 1354576052 20924 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not _that_ big squares, smaller than the relative wrapping < 1354576057 670525 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"an infinity of bound * bound squares, and p -- can only affect cells in the square the ip currently is in" kind of square. < 1354576091 512362 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but the squares to represent cells don't have to be anywhere near as large as bound * bound, if bound is something like 2^23 < 1354576114 929328 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but wouldn't you eventually have to get out of the wrapping-square? < 1354576127 17621 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the cells in it wear out and all. < 1354576127 919111 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. i was assuming the bound*bound squares were centered on the current ip < 1354576150 362289 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not what it sounds like, but I guess it could be. < 1354576152 918358 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that they overlap. < 1354576163 83056 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise there could be a problem yeah < 1354576214 149642 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess what Arc_Koen actually said doesn't imply overlapping < 1354576228 10435 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It *sounds* like there's a fixed grid of squares, but that might be just me. < 1354576231 103098 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1354576285 339464 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know befunge well enough to know whether there is an instruction that could get around that < 1354576320 426143 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike`afk < 1354576339 314322 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could save data on the stack instead of moving across the boundary directly, but you would still need some way to get a minimal program into a non-used square < 1354576372 363633 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :to do the copying from the stack to a nearly empty square < 1354576450 2785 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354576457 332776 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Befunge-93 seems to have nothing other than p < 1354576461 333137 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think 93 has anything that can write to playfield except p. < 1354576479 526402 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :98 also has s which might work though would be quite awkward to use. < 1354576519 682965 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It writes a character to pos+delta, but I can't recall if it the skips that character or not. < 1354576541 903303 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course it'd wrap so maybe it's not a problem even if it skips it. < 1354576553 685732 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen: so i think we are going to need the p restricting squares to be overlapping for this to work < 1354576557 70088 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moot point, of course, since it wasn't 98. < 1354577303 137554 :ion!ion@heh.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1354577328 305266 :sebbu2!~sebbu@83.194.57.239 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354577345 67635 :sebbu2!~sebbu@83.194.57.239 QUIT :Changing host < 1354577345 140576 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1354577357 561942 :Bike`afk!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1354577395 292744 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1354577480 120093 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have now my own concept, another way to group pokemons, where each pokemon also belongs to a "prefix group". A prefix group is identified by zero, one, or two letters. All official pokemons belong to the Nintendo prefix group, identified by no letters. There is a partial order on prefix groups, with Nintendo being initial. < 1354577522 624189 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like this? < 1354577525 116996 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1354577616 847314 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is designed to be usable with battle simulators supporting custom pokemon species. < 1354577707 140243 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why zero, one, or two? < 1354577719 233715 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because 3 would just be madness < 1354577738 218314 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 26^2 + 26^2 < 1354577739 701660 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1352 < 1354577741 843501 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that the ID could fit in a six character field. It could be extended to three letters if necessary. < 1354577749 254978 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 26^2 + 26^1 + 26^0 < 1354577750 688789 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : 703 < 1354577778 564960 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :703 is hardly better than 1. < 1354577795 724371 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly even four or five if the number of species per those groups is very small. < 1354577818 232382 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"zzo" would make a good prefix group. < 1354577829 931137 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where does your nick come from, anyway? < 1354577848 855986 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't actually know for sure. < 1354578024 721855 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1354578091 971834 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1354578120 575645 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1354578200 887623 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is the best way to represent the partial ordering in the computer? < 1354578272 244838 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :A long English document? < 1354578323 803117 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wanted to do something in a ASCII text file which is both readable by people and processable by computer. < 1354578344 355040 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And in a packed form that does not necessarily require every one. < 1354578364 907560 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :As well as being easy to correct. < 1354578459 944013 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1354578651 767588 :jfischoff!~jfischoff@c-67-169-45-161.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: jfischoff < 1354578977 844327 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1354579021 295531 :sebbu!~sebbu@83.194.57.239 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354579021 369013 :sebbu!~sebbu@83.194.57.239 QUIT :Changing host < 1354579021 369180 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1354579201 288418 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh, right. otherwise a square that was initially empty can never be written to from out, but if the ip enters a square that's empty it will exit without performing any writing... < 1354579368 9062 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: well partial orders over a finite set are basically trees < 1354579382 400621 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1354579446 963201 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no they are not. < 1354579455 482325 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh? < 1354579465 421806 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : . < 1354579469 540143 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : / \ < 1354579475 335822 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : / \ < 1354579478 102187 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohhh < 1354579479 63527 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1354579480 398507 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :.------. < 1354579482 2949 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok ok < 1354579493 782316 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dags, then < 1354579511 568766 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn miscounted < 1354579530 398644 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's almost like trees < 1354579533 318155 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :since it's oriented < 1354579550 90649 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : . < 1354579552 64727 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : / \ < 1354579553 721127 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :/ \ < 1354579564 636161 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :after all we do talk about "genealogy trees" even though they're not trees either < 1354579583 671839 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're not? < 1354579611 540079 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I can be the descendant of two people which are cousins < 1354579615 172740 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION gently teaches Bike about incest
< 1354579644 799945 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION didn't even realized there was something wrong with that
< 1354579645 893237 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION notes he may have been unusually creepy today
< 1354579653 556805 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're directed acyclic graphs, right...? < 1354579667 525473 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: barring time travel hth < 1354579673 775172 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION gently teaches oerjan that we're ALL cousins.
< 1354579684 531272 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA < 1354579693 647706 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I thought we were all brothers and sisters. < 1354579700 991593 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kinky < 1354579706 272415 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eew < 1354579710 843920 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :true... the homestuck family geneology consists entirely of cycles < 1354579720 254650 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you read that one story by Heinlein? < 1354579723 908324 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, i was confusing dags with possibly cyclic graphs, durr. < 1354579726 49207 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only way you can be the child of two people who are not cousins (and it's just a matter of terminology) is if they're siblings, uncles/aunts/nieces/nephews, or direct linear descendents/ancestors. < 1354579730 534987 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i read of it, that's just as good < 1354579747 520051 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: he wrote a few about time travel fuckery? you probably mean all you zombies though < 1354579753 540507 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1354579761 768154 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :On the topic of family graphs. < 1354579766 543076 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the only one with actual time travel fuckery < 1354579766 857149 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Family monoids? < 1354579778 212821 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :family rings < 1354579778 447890 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google the man who folded himself < 1354579779 791797 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Man_Who_Folded_Himself < 1354579779 870313 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: The Man Who Folded Himself - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia < 1354579781 236771 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also notable < 1354579798 886802 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if only heinlein wasn't a complete arsehole < 1354579807 797458 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I'm pretty sure back to the future is about marty having sex with his mother < 1354579812 404894 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :then we could read his stories about spacetime incest in peace. < 1354579819 854329 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What was that other time travel thing he wrote? < 1354579841 282223 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :By the way, white folk (probably most of you), did you know that you're part neanderthal? It's true! < 1354579864 698092 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was thinking of... i forget the title, time enough for love maybe? i think he has sex with his mother, and also twin clones of himself or something < 1354579877 40764 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :By His Bootstraps is the on I was thinking of there. < 1354579877 994968 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there any racial group that isn't part neanderthal? < 1354579879 799773 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :all at the same time? < 1354579884 665591 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: African. < 1354579889 851717 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahhhh < 1354579890 664620 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also The Door Into Summer. That was a good one. < 1354579905 620877 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :homo sapiens purity. purge the nonafricans < 1354579937 888116 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well I, for one, find it fascinating, so nyaa. < 1354579947 622901 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: so maybe you can have each line be an ordered list of prefixes < 1354579955 948110 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-6.elisa.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1354579969 236285 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: and some "debugger" would tell you if there are redundancies < 1354580007 114480 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen: OK. I can try that. < 1354580010 548608 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, um < 1354580024 476378 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :though I'm not sure whether redundancy is good or bad < 1354580035 46566 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't the point at which the human ancestor pool merges at most a few millenia ago < 1354580096 754463 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Did you read _The Door Into Summer_? < 1354580104 404713 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: additionally the 'debugger' could also warn you of "nodes" which are not at the beginning of a line < 1354580132 122280 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: It's closer to 200,000 years. < 1354580134 765614 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think everyone has *some* Neanderthal ancestors, Africans just don't have many. < 1354580136 830624 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh, not sure what I meant < 1354580142 520137 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, uhhhh, not what I'd heard. < 1354580206 505309 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y-chromosomal_Adam // one ancestor is as recent as 60,000 years, but no more. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrial_Eve // the other, ~200,000 years. < 1354580222 784858 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not what they said in stargate < 1354580233 384482 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, those are *direct male and female lines*. < 1354580241 842482 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Adam and Eve were born 140,000 years apart? < 1354580265 277076 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think in some episode they find a frozen human body that's a hundred million years or so old < 1354580280 218045 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: The last real merge of humanity into a single pool was before the latest exodus from Africa (duh), and our intermingling with neanderthals just after it. < 1354580281 761687 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Please use https: Wikipedia links. < 1354580283 90048 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"thanks" < 1354580287 791152 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rot13 Gregor < 1354580288 113211 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tertbe < 1354580295 513363 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, doesn't have to be a single pool. < 1354580299 935766 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rot13 Gregory < 1354580300 327357 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tertbel < 1354580311 911605 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :One migrant can very quickly propagate their ancestry through an isolated population. < 1354580331 706741 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yeah that's gotta count as statutory rape or something < 1354580370 209779 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I suppose "born" isn't quite the right word to use there. < 1354580394 454798 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought the last common ancestor thing was at the bottleneck after that explosion in east asia. < 1354580402 624385 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Adam and Eve were born 140,000 years apart? <-- basically males tend to spread their genes faster than females, so the direct male lines also die out faster < 1354580405 378081 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: The study they did found /no/ neanderthal genomes in modern Africans. < 1354580406 246555 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :afaiu < 1354580413 620258 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Most_recent_common_ancestor#MRCA_of_all_living_humans ? < 1354580423 778469 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(For the group they studied) < 1354580439 111419 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :edwardk did that skew binary online LCA thing. < 1354580472 85680 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The identical ancestors point for Homo sapiens has been estimated to between 15,000 and 5,000 years ago." < 1354580480 96671 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Gregor: Please use https: Wikipedia links. <-- please don't < 1354580499 404829 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(sure i can edit them by hand...) < 1354580501 732522 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neanderthals died out around twice as far back. < 1354580530 751747 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: What's the matter with https:? < 1354580531 472239 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: do you mean males can use the 9-month pause in the spreading somewhere to start spreading elsewhere? < 1354580559 466896 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen: SOMETHING LIKE THAT < 1354580613 94130 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: That statistic is contrary to everything else I have ever read, including in relevant college courses >_> < 1354580661 35628 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: oh hm when i tested now it worked fine, i'm still logged in and everything. < 1354580672 721417 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https: works great. < 1354580689 187572 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1354580691 484297 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bet oerjan is just the NSA trying to spy on my Wikipedia readin's. < 1354580697 115345 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354580840 616484 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: could be true though, that ancestor can be through mixed male and female lines after all, so not as restricted as "adam" and "eve" < 1354580883 431458 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.40.155 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1354580917 896281 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and because of this, you cannot simply measure it by comparing dna like with the single-line inherited parts < 1354580977 80038 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, "It is incorrect to assume that the MRCA passed all of his or her genes (or indeed any gene) down to every person alive." < 1354581011 282142 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :we could have a common ancestor that left no genes at all... < 1354581076 743843 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the Ship of Theseus mention < 1354581094 767086 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-6.elisa.ee QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1354581139 748437 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: of course at that point you're feeling the urge to do the math < 1354581141 950177 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-6.elisa.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1354581154 735953 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh identical ancestors point is something else again < 1354581221 928451 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact i think we discussed that very concept on the channel a while ago < 1354581231 503026 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(without the name) < 1354581303 451070 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, it looks like all the stuff suggesting 15,000-5,000 years is based on computer models of human populations. < 1354581333 809426 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they didn't even bother to build a time machine to conduct the experiment? < 1354581335 731397 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whereas the recent (2010) study finding neanderthal genes was, y'know, not models. It was people, and their genes. < 1354581359 595933 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but you haven't actually addressed the point about common ancestors not necessarily implying common genes. < 1354581380 584458 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, if there's sufficiently little flow then they can end up sort of flushing the last bits out anyway. < 1354581387 809174 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And still having neanderthals in their line. < 1354581461 438484 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...so what're we disagreeing on? < 1354581467 803050 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose we're not :) < 1354581479 776394 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just preferred the original interpretation to the possibly-more-accurate one ;) < 1354581608 1130 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose the accurate version is "you're descended from Neanderthals, but if you're African you might as well not be". < 1354581626 153168 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1354581964 106277 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen: What did you mean, note not at the beginning of a line? < 1354582003 345349 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why does the Haskell read function not allow comments? < 1354582050 995597 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: hmmm well imagine if you have a line "2 4 12 24 48" and another line "3 6 12 36" < 1354582059 226649 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :then the two lines "cross" at 12 < 1354582068 776447 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, OK. < 1354582095 608043 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure that's a problem; maybe crossing prefixes should be hilighted or something < 1354582145 417197 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because that makes 36 bigger than 2 < 1354582196 621783 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so when you're for instance looking for "all prefixes bigger than 2" you might want not to scan all the lines, only the lines for which the first element is bigger than 2 < 1354582220 119714 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry I did not mean "cross" I meant "merge" < 1354582222 296214 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think what you want to avoid for redundancy is anything that can be deduced from transitivity. i.e. don't list adjacently any prefixes that have intermediate ones between them < 1354582240 753787 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if you have 2 4 12, then 2 12 would not be allowed. < 1354582252 899153 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes that's what I meant < 1354582264 165243 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and of course no adjacent pairs should be repeated < 1354582264 360019 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, perhaps it should still be allowed even though it is redundant, it could still be a warning. < 1354582291 249178 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But there is not allowed different ones equal in this context so that would be error. < 1354582294 620303 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :though I'm not so sure it's such a bad thing - maybe you very much want one prefix to be lower than another, notwithstanding intermediate prefixes < 1354582344 696851 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen: um that's an automatic consequence, since this is a partial order < 1354582348 191877 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should of course check for cycles and stuff < 1354582349 558139 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :One idea I have is, every line only lists what is lesser, and some things are deduced from transitivity < 1354582380 913308 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wanted to use Haskell format, but the read function doesn't allow comments, so I won't use that. < 1354582386 160086 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you only need to list things that are "closest neighbors" < 1354582391 167132 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I'm talking about "maintainability" of the partial order description file :) < 1354582405 418674 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well ok < 1354582454 568659 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, this file will contain more than just the partial order. < 1354582611 822969 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although i am also thinking you might want to have groupings. for example if you have 1 4, 1 5, 1 6, 2 4, 2 5, 2 6, 3 4, 3 5, 3 6 then it would be shorter to say that all of 1 2 and 3 are smaller than all of 4 5 and 6 if you can name groups. < 1354582681 407190 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm this is almost essentially the same problem as how to design a more flexible way of giving haskell operator precedences < 1354582703 853037 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh you only make pairs? < 1354582710 365484 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking you could make whole lines < 1354582721 733568 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ie compress 1 2, 2 3, 3 4 as 1 2 3 4 < 1354582723 892284 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I really think the operator precedences ought to be surreal numbers. < 1354582732 646791 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen: that was just in that example, which had no lines to make < 1354582789 338503 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you could make 1 2 3 an equivalency class if they share the same properties < 1354582792 158559 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: ...but those are totally ordered, which may be unsuitable... oh well right, there are other issues with operators. < 1354582797 53455 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1354582808 609440 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and maybe you could give a scope to that class if they don't have all their properties in common < 1354582873 448923 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1354582960 32535 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know exactly what the file syntax should be, although probably not Haskell because its read function does not parse comments. < 1354583015 6946 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I did think of the idea to make the partial ordering, but if you have a better idea you can specify your ideas too. < 1354583128 553517 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the ordering be used for anyway? < 1354583185 218759 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it is an optional feature (programs using this file are not required to support it), but can be used to define "baby pokemon" according to the definition I used, if you want to use that definition. < 1354583673 384934 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would you like this: this_prefix(lesser_prefixes): "text" url < 1354583824 193632 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The URL can be any internet URL, telephone, postal address, or ISBN. < 1354583858 609938 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps also allow Tor domains. < 1354583866 498050 :jfischoff!~jfischoff@c-67-169-45-161.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354583882 29101 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1354583904 813567 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the list of lesser prefixes is empty you omit the parentheses; if you include them with nothing in between, it includes a single entry which is the empty (Nintendo) prefix. < 1354584025 349622 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The URL and text is recommended to be ASCII, although Unicode is allowed (including Conscripts), however they must be encoded using ASCII format: For URL, encoding using % or punycode. For text, encoded using Haskell string literal syntax. < 1354584045 546140 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :somehow i'm thinking the other way around would be more logical, with () meaning empty, since it is explicit < 1354584046 258933 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Comments have # at front of the line. < 1354584087 183718 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Well, maybe... < 1354584372 956710 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still, I am thinking () is a single blank prefix, because the entries separated by commas, and so no comma = 1 entry, which is blank. < 1354584380 399715 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is why I did it that way. < 1354584625 708245 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn avuncular < 1354584626 99952 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*** "avuncular" wn "WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)" < 1354584626 171380 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :avuncular < 1354584626 171541 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : adj 1: resembling a uncle in kindness or indulgence < 1354584626 171649 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2: being or relating to an uncle < 1354584754 408705 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Why do you think other way is really more logical? < 1354584808 561780 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hey, i remember that word from anthropology class. are you still looking up MRCA stuff? < 1354584933 158025 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: well i guess it's intuitive from what () means in haskell, like in import lists and tuples. < 1354584983 941212 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, yes but if it is Haskell we would use square brackets because it is a list. < 1354585003 291297 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess C tends to use more of () as "use defaults" sometimes < 1354585008 455436 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: not in import lists < 1354585032 207702 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Well, yes, in import lists () does mean an empty list, and nothing at all means, it is everything. < 1354585063 950714 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Arc_Koen < 1354585140 372500 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And even if it is Haskell, this isn't an import list anyways. < 1354585221 101104 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :more like an inheritance list. but haskell has (A a, B a) => for that instead. < 1354585259 318612 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it isn't an inheritance list either; it is only a partial ordering. < 1354585278 762253 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well < 1354585298 729173 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION no good argue about not facts
< 1354585310 958567 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi oerjan < 1354585318 365456 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi shachaf < 1354585327 401627 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you look very avuncular today < 1354585352 607286 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even then, for an inheritance list, omitting it does not mean it inherits everything or meaning it inherits anything which it will not inherit if you do include the list. And with import lists, no () means import everything, which is also different to mine. < 1354585371 586416 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, either way, it doesn't work. < 1354585514 463510 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now you may see what my logic is, although other ideas are still possible, such as something before or after each item, so you explicitly know the empty item. < 1354585931 423415 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1354586646 878313 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The file "interlocks.h" for Csound, is I cannot find a document of it, but I look at the other codes to try to figure it out, but still I don't know what SB and _QQ mean, and some codes also use 0x20 as an interlock value and I don't know what that means either. < 1354586882 595877 :jfischoff!~jfischoff@c-67-169-45-161.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: jfischoff < 1354587114 226597 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :#define MEMDEF(x) x; typedef struct { x object[sizeof(x)<0xFF00?1:-1]; } x##__ < 1354587365 235221 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you used these kind of things in any C codes? < 1354587548 922154 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :How would you even use that < 1354587712 535482 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.csounds.com/manual/html/csound5extending.html#AddmodAddSpace < 1354587769 673708 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does that explain it to you? < 1354587866 565024 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :good grief, was this written for the IOCCC? < 1354587873 44463 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"f-rate streaming pvoc fsig type" < 1354587880 898304 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think that counts as English < 1354587929 599610 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you sure? Well, I don't think it was written for the IOCCC. < 1354587947 978907 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :What happens when an array ends up with a -1 size anyways < 1354587955 54428 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You get a compiler error. < 1354587957 436075 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that just a hacky and unreadable way to causing a compiler error? < 1354587990 10575 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't call it unreadable. < 1354587998 398547 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also where would you use that macro < 1354588003 279964 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "x;" at the start intrigues me < 1354588065 829357 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :typedef struct { OPDS h; MYFLT*ao; MYFLT*ai; } MEMDEF(mem_avecrev); < 1354588077 827498 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it comes at the end of a typedef < 1354588144 96873 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I once made a piece of software somethign like this thing thing < 1354588165 970323 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was graphical though. < 1354588225 472210 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I never really bothered coming up with interesting blocks < 1354588240 117867 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or modules or whatever you call them < 1354588275 519803 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if browsers are fast enough to do it in JavaScript these days < 1354588290 56103 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still don't trust JS when it comes to raw math performance < 1354588342 180499 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, this is Csound; what software were you using? < 1354588458 62927 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1354588459 531170 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :GCC? < 1354588472 384127 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was making my own thing from scratch. This was years ago < 1354588516 633530 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What did the program do? < 1354588528 819670 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: How long have you had your nick? < 1354588535 523643 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was it always 38, or a different number once? < 1354588556 32072 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Always 38 < 1354588565 22848 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how long. < 1354588644 636477 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It made sounds < 1354588661 378812 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had basic waveform generators, ADSR, some filters, and MIDI input. < 1354588671 539197 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plus a block that takes a chain and clones it for polyphony. < 1354588688 872498 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'd be kind of fun to make something like this with a physical interface < 1354588702 636766 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something that looks like an analog modular synthesizer but is really just a simulation. < 1354588708 679275 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that's probably never going to happen < 1354588727 691695 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Do I really? < 1354588817 633487 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: just about ready to engage in some nepotism, i'd say < 1354588850 826810 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Hm, I was leaning toward despotism. < 1354588859 690609 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :those go well together < 1354590080 437095 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: Csound does such things and even more, and probably could even be made to connect to a physical interface. < 1354590099 15889 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about a mental interface < 1354590151 356203 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It might be possible too, I don't know < 1354590226 568093 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chrome seems to be seriously struggling with the new tab page < 1354590584 765591 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1354591599 106187 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1354591871 627756 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter JOIN :#esoteric < 1354592021 57331 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohai o/ something blew up somewhere near and caused a power failure <.< < 1354592040 569794 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome c00kiemon5ter < 1354592048 88394 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :c00kiemon5ter: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1354592060 565855 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've had this message before < 1354592071 675750 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`WeLcOmE c00kiemon5ter < 1354592076 866341 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :C00kIeMoN5TeR: wElCoMe tO ThE InTeRnAtIoNaL HuB FoR EsOtErIc pRoGrAmMiNg lAnGuAgE DeSiGn aNd dEpLoYmEnT! fOr mOrE InFoRmAtIoN, cHeCk oUt oUr wIkI: hTtP://EsOlAnGs.oRg/wIkI/MaIn_pAgE. (FoR ThE OtHeR KiNd oF EsOtErIcA, tRy #EsOtErIc oN IrC.DaL.NeT.) < 1354592100 940612 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1354592135 889715 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although i bet elliott still hasn't made the link work < 1354592808 288469 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1354592882 344895 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354594489 730100 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-142-60-139.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: quit < 1354596935 473491 :micahjohnston!~micahjohn@ell.io JOIN :#esoteric < 1354597334 311892 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1354597704 401224 :ifnspifn!~ifnspifn@184.90.25.102 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1354597722 860565 :ifnspifn!~ifnspifn@184.90.25.102 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354597933 244382 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1354598271 811395 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354598775 683413 :jfischoff!~jfischoff@c-67-169-45-161.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354600639 541373 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-43-239.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1354600639 614619 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-43-239.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1354600639 614744 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1354600833 305838 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1354601022 853778 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1354602199 985211 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-6.elisa.ee QUIT :Quit: Left < 1354602303 661420 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1354602331 350016 :sebbu!~sebbu@adijon-152-1-43-239.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1354602331 427868 :sebbu!~sebbu@adijon-152-1-43-239.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1354602331 500990 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1354605131 95578 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-300.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament is so positive and full of hope in the 2003 logs < 1354605167 532413 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where is lament? < 1354605172 321900 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, 2003 < 1354605188 195767 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stuck in 2003, how horrible. < 1354605207 937345 :Sgeo|web!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354605216 767734 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Well, lament is moving forward in time. < 1354605220 893756 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But unfortunately so are we. < 1354605226 867792 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :We'll always be 9 years ahead. :-( < 1354605240 398276 :Sgeo|web!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Fiora < 1354605252 773186 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-300.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie hasn't changed a bit < 1354605380 734451 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-300.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : what with the topics on this channel, not a surprise (s?he|it) refused. < 1354605380 972894 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I'm stuck in 2003 too. < 1354605437 413340 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-300.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :how old are you and how old is lament? < 1354605498 735151 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wasn't this old then. < 1354605515 627406 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-300.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm looking for a number < 1354605533 185 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :29 now, I think. < 1354605599 327233 :jfischoff!~jfischoff@c-67-169-45-161.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: jfischoff < 1354605633 228130 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-300.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting < 1354605657 597010 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know about the age of lament(ation). < 1354605689 139517 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The lament of their women, as Conan says. < 1354605718 306317 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-300.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : yay, ten people! < 1354605737 731096 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should Proce have command to specify external input/output? < 1354605739 887103 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-300.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :so weird < 1354605748 157044 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Otherwise, it doesn't do much. < 1354605805 187319 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay, sixty-eight people! < 1354605809 767665 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still including clog! < 1354605820 520454 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: You count as people too! < 1354605821 18838 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: before the renaissance, western mathematics was pretty shitty on the notation side. < 1354605843 659449 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: That's a direct quote, you lazy. < 1354605844 248943 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: it is used or something like that wouldn't be equally tricky if you want < 1354605856 729257 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That probably isn't. Though you never know. < 1354605959 232808 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-300.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : and i made a 3D bf with the IP being a SPACESHIP (now that's REAL COOL, right?), then i made a lang called metafuck, where you can execute the memory with it's own nulled memory < 1354605961 1495 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-300.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait. < 1354605972 115176 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-300.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :am i just sarcastic from the beginning < 1354606009 92962 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-300.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems i've calmed down quite a bit in any case < 1354606616 164917 :ifnspifn!~ifnspifn@184.90.25.102 QUIT :Quit: ifnspifn < 1354607031 998937 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1354608017 326110 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : /o/ < 1354608021 683372 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi? < 1354608486 756361 :Sgeo|web!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 QUIT 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:carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1354612454 795824 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1354612475 307787 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: omg that takes ages :D < 1354612486 542308 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1354612519 991381 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1354612624 14438 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: or maybe its my function :o < 1354613032 767684 :Taneb!~Taneb@mail.qehs.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354613844 750990 :Taneb!~Taneb@mail.qehs.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1354613902 778114 :Taneb!~Taneb@mail.qehs.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354614685 544953 :epicmonkey_!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354615988 944614 :jix!~jix@jixco.de QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1354616582 860867 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1354625266 632160 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@fluttershy.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :Long time no see! < 1354625641 749473 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354625777 103915 :sirdancealot7!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz QUIT :Quit: KEEP SPARKS. FLAME AWAY. < 1354625805 122820 :sirdancealot!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1354626214 103624 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ＷＥＬＣＯＭＥ asiekierka < 1354626227 621582 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ＡＳＩＥＫＩＥＲＫＡ：　ＷＥＬＣＯＭＥ　ＴＯ　ＴＨＥ　ＩＮＴＥＲＮＡＴＩＯＮＡＬ　ＨＵＢ　ＦＯＲ　ＥＳＯＴＥＲＩＣ　ＰＲＯＧＲＡＭＭＩＮＧ　ＬＡＮＧＵＡＧＥ　ＤＥＳＩＧＮ　ＡＮＤ　ＤＥＰＬＯＹＭＥＮＴ！　ＦＯＲ　ＭＯＲＥ　ＩＮＦＯＲＭＡＴＩＯＮ，　ＣＨＥＣＫ　ＯＵＴ　ＯＵＲ　ＷＩＫＩ：　ＨＴＴＰ：／／ＥＳＯＬ < 1354626310 33519 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1354626616 649893 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: Poulet! < 1354627072 179459 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's so big. < 1354627175 884999 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, this monitor developed a full-height vertical line of always-on blue pixels in the 354th column. It is visible also in the monitor startup logo splash and in different graphics modes. < 1354627223 759044 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it is a fault. < 1354627277 134252 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1354627291 338983 :nooga!~nooga@public-gprs364147.centertel.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1354627311 214379 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@fluttershy.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :>354th column < 1354627313 355088 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@fluttershy.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah the accuracy < 1354627322 696891 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354627335 215393 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1354627391 777447 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354627424 89218 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It might be the 353th or the 355th column, to be honest. < 1354627454 469408 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@fluttershy.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gotta be more accurate br < 1354627455 564096 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@fluttershy.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1354627458 311193 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@fluttershy.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :Get a magnifying glass < 1354627480 702991 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1354627614 391842 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354627669 395071 :nooga_!~nooga@public-gprs358739.centertel.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1354627841 728244 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354627874 336737 :nooga!~nooga@public-gprs364147.centertel.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1354628983 640744 :kallisti!~eris@168.28.136.16 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354628983 751590 :kallisti!~eris@168.28.136.16 QUIT :Changing host < 1354628983 751716 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1354628992 547446 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@195.206.224.58 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1354629203 972718 :nooga_!~nooga@public-gprs358739.centertel.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1354629317 330226 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1354630413 408968 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: are you using a iMac? < 1354630478 179142 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a friend with an iMac who developed the same problem (though he did not tell me the number of the column). Later on the monitor developed a second column like that, except purple instead of blue. < 1354630681 446646 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it's just a monitor. < 1354630689 881426 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some old Fujitsu-Siemens leftover. < 1354630904 430889 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: hi < 1354630923 640240 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's not *my* monitor. I'd be more dismayed if it were.) < 1354630929 61914 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well HELLO THERE. < 1354631189 299208 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so elliott have you started that fortress < 1354631203 684913 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie has < 1354631266 965047 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh good < 1354631275 421226 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie can be counted on < 1354631277 627404 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's dependable < 1354631295 952671 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :relatedly, < 1354631300 417000 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: help me with SSL thanks ! < 1354631328 566238 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: is 107.5.152.253 you? < 1354631712 130819 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably. < 1354631755 754164 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup, that's me. < 1354631793 515536 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?title=///&curid=1636&diff=34935&oldid=33068 hides a link to a user page which is a no-go by the wiki policies < 1354631804 801777 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1354631815 53075 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :In that case, no, that's not me. < 1354631828 110863 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I wanted to know so I could ask what you wanted done :P < 1354631837 315741 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :would be easy to make a [[Tanner Swett]] stub that linked to the user page, that would suffice < 1354631845 730767 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just changed it to "Tanner Swett ([[User:Ihope127]])". < 1354631862 756645 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't you mean 107.5.152.253 did :P < 1354631872 217822 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks, anyway < 1354631872 733137 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, yes. < 1354631882 881526 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should really fix it so that links to the /// page actually work again < 1354631945 922210 :Taneb!~Taneb@mail.qehs.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354632957 497934 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The process of constructing instruction tables should be very fascinating. There need be no real danger of it ever becoming a drudge, for any processes that are quite mechanical may be turned over to the machine itself." -- Turing < 1354633023 672121 :Taneb!~Taneb@mail.qehs.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I'm hungry." -- Nathan "Taneb" van Doorn < 1354633379 829260 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: nice < 1354633433 555677 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :via http://arcanesentiment.blogspot.co.uk/2012/12/there-need-be-no-real-danger-of-it-ever.html via http://alarmingdevelopment.org/?p=711, fwiw < 1354633438 338660 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or are those vias the wrong way around < 1354633667 254640 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.172 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354635975 814823 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :blind vias and buried vias < 1354636234 80567 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the last character in a /// program si \ what happens? < 1354636325 246783 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"If the character is \, the character after it (if any) is printed and both characters are removed from the program." < 1354636344 662794 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right, if any < 1354636876 871022 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that description is less than clear admittedly (I wrote it) < 1354637084 775493 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.40.155 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354637103 741105 :ifnspifn!~ifnspifn@184.90.25.102 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354638894 84561 :sirdancealot!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1354639057 479784 :Taneb!~Taneb@mail.qehs.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1354639130 941304 :sirdancealot7!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1354640900 464531 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354642989 8662 :hey!8bbea1c7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.190.161.199 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354642993 528535 :hey!8bbea1c7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.190.161.199 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey < 1354642997 824493 :hey!8bbea1c7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.190.161.199 PRIVMSG #esoteric :every one < 1354643009 722858 :hey!8bbea1c7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.190.161.199 PRIVMSG #esoteric :For programmer HELLO WORLD :) < 1354643012 643718 :hey!8bbea1c7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.190.161.199 NICK :Guest89142 < 1354643040 140269 :Guest89142!8bbea1c7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.190.161.199 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey < 1354643046 553275 :Guest89142!8bbea1c7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.190.161.199 PART :#esoteric < 1354643204 783556 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ohhhhhhhhhh kay < 1354643219 718494 :Gregor!codu@codu.org TOPIC #esoteric :hey hey hey everyone for programmer HELLO WORLD! | Logs: http://5z8.info/turkeyporn_o4u1vn_molotovcocktail#gobblegobble < 1354643230 633384 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ohwait < 1354643233 888880 :Gregor!codu@codu.org TOPIC #esoteric :hey hey hey every one for programmer HELLO WORLD! | Logs: http://5z8.info/turkeyporn_o4u1vn_molotovcocktail#gobblegobble < 1354646125 911668 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1354646618 118403 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354646799 812719 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't that missing a hey. < 1354646803 187744 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Did you make Proce esolang? I think there should be the way to specify external input/output? < 1354646810 521697 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey hey hey every one hey for programmer HELLO WORLD. < 1354646811 483814 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: No, it is missing a key. < 1354646828 317679 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I opted to paraphrase. < 1354646864 406953 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the log URL is missing a percentage sign. < 1354647931 488985 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ping < 1354647931 604444 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1354647936 905393 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Quit: Reconnecting < 1354647946 849661 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1354648030 510419 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was a hey after HELLO WORLD! too < 1354648088 42466 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey hey, hello world hey ... has a nice ring to it somehow < 1354648102 78545 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1354648123 289971 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1354648124 466640 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can no longer visit the page "///" on the wiki for some reason < 1354648144 143491 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has been like this for months because I am lazy and awful < 1354648147 2733 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can go to "Slashes" instaed < 1354648149 894601 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*instead < 1354648150 627077 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I know < 1354648150 968152 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry < 1354648153 193375 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will fix it sometime < 1354648162 844742 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :but, the language list redirects you to /// < 1354648437 578585 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1354648443 68191 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I could change that < 1354648482 438020 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait, never mind, it does redirect you to Slashes < 1354648694 276908 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I did make Proce, yeah, and there's no one obvious way to do I/O. < 1354648716 64139 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1354648786 137537 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: To me would seem, should have some line indicating the outputs and inputs? < 1354648816 419708 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might try to implement this, as a Csound plugin. < 1354650385 515805 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Do you think that may be reasonable way doing I/O? < 1354650394 882268 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, do you want a different way? < 1354650830 808515 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you program Mozilla to finish loading the HTML before attempting to load any CSS, script, images, etc? < 1354650883 920252 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finish loading or finish rendering? < 1354651042 416643 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Both. < 1354651075 428977 :nortti!nortti@dsl-hkibrasgw3-ff25c000-52.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well for one you should probably upgrade to firefox or seamonkey but I think that is not what you mean < 1354651080 182961 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because I"m pretty sure you need CSS and some scripts before it can be rendered properly < 1354651150 548431 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean the Mozilla engine (so that includes Firefox and so on) < 1354651159 52849 :nortti!nortti@dsl-hkibrasgw3-ff25c000-52.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :gecko? < 1354651162 208074 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-116.elisa.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1354651169 576018 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-116.elisa.ee PART :#esoteric < 1354651177 428229 :nortti!nortti@dsl-hkibrasgw3-ff25c000-52.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :or are you insane enough to tamper with mariner? < 1354651309 306389 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it could be rendered not too bad, if you don't use the CSS/scripts; it should display placeholders for images, and if for any reason it cannot finish rendering, it ought to still be required to finish loading first. < 1354651317 576259 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then render as much as possible, before loading the rest. < 1354651350 454289 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi elliott < 1354651367 368407 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1354651573 771466 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1354651758 13340 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : /o/ < 1354651764 619425 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... < 1354651769 502561 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^celebrate < 1354651769 814228 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : \o| |o| |o/ \m/ \m/ |o/ \o/ \o| \m/ \m/ \o| |o| |o/ < 1354651780 950884 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh noes < 1354651782 959602 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi...... < 1354651822 968034 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks distinctly idle < 1354651829 795209 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :poor guys, their heads and arms are all chopped off < 1354651989 553886 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi: hi < 1354652644 122314 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: There are also some disembodied hands. < 1354652930 776218 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.172 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1354653043 808642 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-43-239.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1354653066 398203 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-43-239.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1354653066 472119 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1354653078 511207 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can FM synthesis be done with acoustics rather than electronics? < 1354653158 327655 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that almost how humans speak? < 1354653172 409505 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. < 1354653183 876148 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Nah < 1354653195 652922 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Human speech is really more of resonance and resonant filtering < 1354653200 321944 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I mean using strings and pipes and so on, not using speech. < 1354653202 6793 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you could, at least to some extent < 1354653224 878349 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1354653241 214037 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :FM works by taking an oscillation and using it to change the frequency of another oscillation < 1354653251 187812 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then there is PM which changes the phase instead < 1354653259 79266 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :For some reason synthesiser companies call PM FM < 1354653412 334262 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So there is, frequency modulation, phase modulation, but is there duty modulation? < 1354653441 955758 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pulse-width modulation? < 1354653459 108188 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "squarewave" command in my Csound plugin could probably duty modulation too since the duty is an x-rate parameter < 1354653486 22686 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I guess it is like that. < 1354653523 617049 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still with this command, the frequency is also x-rate, so you could make both the frequency and duty to be modulated. < 1354653721 983252 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1354653990 971020 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"FM" as a general term certainly doesn't really require the modulating signal to be an LFO or any sort of oscillator; the pitch effects of human speech (which work by altering the vocal fold oscillation frequency) are arguably rather clear examples of FM. (The bit that generally carries all "content", i.e. the frequency responses of the resonant filters, perhaps not so much.) < 1354654014 383737 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: of course the speech recognition researcher jumps to the voice < 1354654018 482193 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's all about speech recognition!! < 1354654041 717196 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Ever heard of the Commodore 64? < 1354654098 413436 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@fluttershy.pl QUIT :Excess Flood < 1354654155 670134 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :-_- < 1354654161 515410 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :one pole, washed away < 1354654194 554015 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1354654226 838967 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@fluttershy.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1354654539 846761 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: It was someone else who brought up the voice topic. < 1354654578 13895 :yorberth_puente!~canaima@201.249.0.183 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354654713 642555 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome yorberth_puente < 1354654718 433719 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :yorberth_puente: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1354654819 47316 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does anyone ever talk about deployment in here? < 1354654843 551973 :yorberth_puente!~canaima@201.249.0.183 QUIT :Excess Flood < 1354654844 619453 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/welcome < 1354654847 706753 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/usr/bin/perl -w \ if (defined($_=shift)) { s/ *$//; s/ +/ @ /g; exec "bin/@", $_ . " ? welcome"; } else { exec "bin/?", "welcome"; } < 1354654872 986815 :arcatan!arcatan@hilla.kapsi.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :10 tips for deploying brainfuck in production < 1354654874 624142 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run wc -c bin/welcome < 1354654877 882582 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :135 bin/welcome < 1354654887 918705 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls bin < 1354654891 12820 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​? \ @ \ No \ WELCOME \ WeLcOmE \ addquote \ addquotee \ allquotes \ anonlog \ calc \ define \ delquote \ delquotee \ etymology \ forget \ fortune \ frink \ fuck \ google \ hatesgeo \ hi \ joustreport \ jousturl \ json \ k \ karma \ karma+ \ karma- \ learn \ log \ logurl \ macro \ maketext \ marco \ paste \ pastefortunes \ pastekarma \ pastelog \ pastelogs \ pastenquotes \ pastequotes \ pastewisdom \ pastlog \ ping < 1354654906 131329 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/\? < 1354654909 4402 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat bin/\? < 1354654909 259203 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: bin/\?: No such file or directory < 1354654911 963720 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ topic=$(echo "$1" | tr A-Z a-z) \ [ -e "wisdom/$topic" ] || { echo "$1? ¯\(°_o)/¯"; exit 1; } \ cat "wisdom/$topic" \ < 1354654918 262553 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat wisdom/welcome < 1354654921 914049 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1354654933 383006 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's/ and deployment//' < 1354654936 975005 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: no input files < 1354654938 466985 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's/ and deployment//' wisdom/welcome < 1354654941 767641 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1354654959 391915 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome fizzie < 1354654962 842715 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1354655016 736884 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh! I thought it was like mediums and channeling and angel healing. < 1354655140 191286 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and angle grinding < 1354655309 819293 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :angle grinding? < 1354655321 516884 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :An acute case of angels. < 1354655354 649540 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was a book at the book store called Angels in My Hair. Plus two further books "from the author of Angels in My Hair". < 1354655390 703104 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In this uplifting autobiography, a modern-day Irish mystic shares her vivid encounters and conversations with the angels and spirits she has known her entire life." < 1354655409 287115 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"For as long as she can remember, Lorna Byrne has seen angels. As a young child, she assumed everyone could see the otherworldly beings who always accompanied her. Yet in the eyes of adults, her abnormal behavior was a symptom of mental deficiency. Today, sick and troubled people from around the world are drawn to her for comfort and healing, and even theologians of different faiths seek her ... < 1354655415 730576 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... guidance." ...yeah. < 1354655430 153921 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just think! People dared to think she might have something wrong in the head department. < 1354655465 15110 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1354655520 707653 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :how despicable < 1354655537 466973 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1354656101 263259 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354656177 26928 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, otoh this /is/ in ireland < 1354656393 355550 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does this mean the other hand is under ireland? < 1354656489 441513 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably < 1354656532 460974 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it could also mean mayonnaise < 1354656567 773826 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION gently fails at sweeping norwegian princess Märtha Louise under the rug
< 1354656595 865524 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the pithy observation i was leading up to is that irish culture isn't really one of hardline rationalism < 1354656683 36824 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, why, is she nuts < 1354656715 118614 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :her wikipedia doesn't make her sound /that/ much crazier than prince charles < 1354656839 316902 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: that's like "not /that/ much hotter than the sun" or "not /that/ much wetter than the Atlantic Ocean". Or, y'know, "not /that/ much less usable than Haskell" < 1354656848 905413 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(sorry. contractual obligation) < 1354656852 594266 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're not a very good troll < 1354656854 669156 :Taneb!~nathan@host-78-146-174-200.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354656866 876062 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :soundnfury is back? < 1354656874 101769 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, well, you can't fire me. Trolls have an /awesome/ union < 1354656880 528555 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe it's a struct, I'm not sure < 1354656885 618407 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait is he the climate change denialist tory < 1354656887 844244 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :its members might not overlap < 1354656894 865159 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-43-239.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1354656894 938114 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-43-239.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1354656894 938250 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1354656896 608804 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I'm afraid I am < 1354656906 702723 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princess_M%C3%A4rtha_Louise_of_Norway#Spirituality_school_controversy anyway < 1354656910 430509 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I'm not a tory! I'm an anarcho-capitalist libertarian < 1354656922 119983 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there /is/ a difference < 1354656964 783743 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1354656988 466744 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, well obviously i already read that < 1354656989 840567 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :23E4 STRAIGHTNESS [⏤] < 1354656989 998064 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :23E5 FLATNESS [⏥] < 1354656994 196689 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Did you know those? < 1354656994 739566 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1354657005 993788 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se TOPIC #esoteric :Use angels and your own power to create miracles in the logs: http://5z8.info/turkeyporn_o4u1vn_molotovcocktail#gobblegobble < 1354657058 581550 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, not helping with the 'no, not that kind of esoteric' problem < 1354657074 530293 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1354657077 604061 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not exactly trying to :) < 1354657079 855809 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh, we never talk about esolangs /anyway/, what does it matter? < 1354657100 232251 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :we do too! several times a week, sometimes < 1354657101 89452 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well, except when we talk about Haskell) <-- seriously guys, it says in my contract that I have to do this. < 1354657141 183453 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :soundnfury: the contract also says what eventually happens to your soul, i take < 1354657144 964251 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is not funny now, and i'm not sure it ever was < 1354657152 602512 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and is signed in blood < 1354657153 738320 :Taneb!~nathan@host-78-146-174-200.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I liked today's Critical Miss < 1354657169 351770 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :being self-aware of one's idiocy does not excuse it < 1354657220 165410 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I just wanted to make sure everyone could remember who I was. I'll stop now < 1354657231 418565 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :soundnfury isn't identical to fax? just checking. < 1354657232 999443 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(unless there are any /really good/ opportunities, then I might be unable to resist) < 1354657243 426724 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, they're both british < 1354657254 208060 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fax is british? < 1354657271 307517 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well they made clangers references < 1354657272 761683 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am most assuredly /not/ a low-resolution image transmission system < 1354657284 56979 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Quick, talk about esolangs! < 1354657287 795654 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there may have been other things also < 1354657288 435757 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1354657305 564423 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^echo Hello there. < 1354657305 878420 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello there. Hello there. < 1354657307 870787 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1354657314 522415 :Taneb!~nathan@host-78-146-174-200.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, are you okay? < 1354657315 23327 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: i took up emacs so i can do < 1354657317 266970 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Do you have something AGAINST esolangs there? < 1354657317 693460 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: look to the past.... < 1354657325 514622 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spooky. < 1354657326 254812 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is fungot's "echo" supposed to... well... echo like that? < 1354657326 745273 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :soundnfury: manipulating xml as sexps?) or you can < 1354657328 776425 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :experience, clearly < 1354657333 231039 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oooh you've upset fungot < 1354657333 609803 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: it's the return of the last < 1354657341 376699 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: what's your view on angels and other otherworldly beings? < 1354657341 925831 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: well i'm mentioning theoretical image to be dumped in rain forests of laukaa. < 1354657343 954040 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay, sexps! < 1354657348 326260 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :soundnfury: of course, it wouldn't me much of an echo if it only said things _once_, would it? < 1354657367 152801 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :^echo a duck's quack < 1354657367 544809 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :a duck's quack a duck's quack < 1354657375 893142 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, that disproves /that/ urban legend! < 1354657390 839340 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, I'm very bored and not a little drowsy < 1354657401 532531 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this may lead to minor outbursts of insanity < 1354657422 860292 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a drow! kill it! < 1354657440 967568 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: what do you think of APL? < 1354657441 657387 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: it was the joke. shriram krishnamurthi was saying that the headings should always use the -sign for arrays.... not insert /way/ better alternative. < 1354657459 849926 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, okay < 1354657467 162483 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: what do you think of AAPL? < 1354657468 79318 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :soundnfury: upper management latched on to anything with a suxor name...) construct where parts of app pass procedures to compose: ( ( (1 2 3) < 1354657485 980050 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's almost true! < 1354657509 143756 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, why wouldn't it be? < 1354657515 111620 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot always speak the truth < 1354657515 646422 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: you can request fnord at a distance 5000 feet.) mention what you managed to install fnord < 1354657542 454105 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote fungot: what's your view on angels and other otherworldly beings? olsner: well i'm mentioning theoretical image to be dumped in rain forests of laukaa. < 1354657543 15340 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i have access to your screen sessions, most of the time < 1354657545 721361 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :863) fungot: what's your view on angels and other otherworldly beings? olsner: well i'm mentioning theoretical image to be dumped in rain forests of laukaa. < 1354657570 275569 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I'd be afraid if I were you < 1354657581 68477 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't want fungot messing with my screen sessions < 1354657581 430429 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: iso media, apple quicktime movie < 1354657582 941604 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: that would be worrisome if i used screen < 1354657605 15459 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heck, the mere fact of using screen would be worrisome < 1354657628 478398 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: fungot has actually been known to lie, but usually he corrupts the hard disks of anyone who has a log of the event < 1354657628 976384 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :soundnfury: can you see pretty easily what's going on? < 1354657652 567556 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :soundnfury: DON'T ANSWER THAT < 1354657665 359136 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ircing #esoteric through screen would give fungot access to your screen session < 1354657665 778033 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: wait a sec :) just store the symbols and labels)? < 1354657667 872146 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fsvo access < 1354657674 114690 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: *I* can pretty easily see what's going on. < 1354657674 568413 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: it's definitively no toy environment'. it's great < 1354657681 698222 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION chortles. Fnordingly.
< 1354657710 319566 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1354657710 600908 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc* iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1354657723 336763 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, don't you want to talk to me? < 1354657724 280875 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: methinkx it was the fastest back then; the guile people are slow to calculate them lazily. that is < 1354657745 346922 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1354657750 725592 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: back then, huh? < 1354657750 909001 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: or is there another way < 1354657787 578475 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: yeah the guile people *are* slow, aren't they? < 1354657788 216218 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: if i want to mail a poor teacher a copy?). having to pack values into a monad moot. < 1354657802 859483 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :must... resist... temptation... to mock monads... < 1354657827 989891 :arcatan!arcatan@hilla.kapsi.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mock monads so they're easier to test < 1354657845 304466 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh this again < 1354657878 28824 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: what would happen if I were to pack soundnfury into a monad, do you suppose? < 1354657878 466808 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: i think it's gotta run at fnord < 1354657894 610778 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: yes, obviously it would < 1354657895 698539 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: and we want to switch back and forth, but if i was you, i'd leave him. everyone has hated him since. the end. < 1354657905 558029 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's sad < 1354657907 552951 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D < 1354658017 536492 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is used to being hated
< 1354658021 582390 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but being hated by a bot? < 1354658026 29676 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's just low < 1354658061 301489 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: let's talk about Feather. What would be a good name for a Feather interpreter? < 1354658061 777016 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: let me rephrase! " captive market" anybody? < 1354658076 759461 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Perfect, thanks! < 1354658077 237880 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: care to describe it. < 1354658105 884429 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: what should be the foundation of my next esolang? I'm thinking something involving ed < 1354658106 407409 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :soundnfury: if my macro does not. cmuscheme.el does. < 1354658109 909501 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, first I'll implement it in some other language, then retroactively host it in Feather all the way down < 1354658150 799489 :Deewiant!~deewiant@109.75.188.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quill < 1354658153 298265 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: soo... reimplement ed in lisp, or reimplement emacs on top of ed? < 1354658154 84635 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :soundnfury: we disagree about where it was revealed that the health service had a hospital running for several months and come back < 1354658154 162979 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot wants GreyKnight to describe the inner workings of this Feather interpreter? oh god. < 1354658154 659268 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: if you used a proper xml production library that can be used as a teaching language. < 1354658173 578123 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm surprised how relevant he manages to be < 1354658186 744441 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: IT'S A TRAP < 1354658195 153478 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT'S A TARP < 1354658210 665550 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, but I'm not quite sure what the relevance of the NHS is to my question about ed-macs < 1354658246 54073 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: what's your favourite programming paradigm? < 1354658246 882478 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: so it's two proof, after which you can ask < 1354658276 436367 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly you should sell ed-macs systems to the hospitals < 1354658327 97956 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: nah, they already have MUMPS < 1354658769 951085 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I am actually going to call it captive-market now, just FYI < 1354658871 252202 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight, you aren't trying to write a feather interpreter are you < 1354658891 895950 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can neither confirm nor deny this statement < 1354658921 841245 :Taneb!~nathan@host-78-146-174-200.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm < 1354658943 343613 :Taneb!~nathan@host-78-146-174-200.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would the TardisT monad transformer be useful for writing a feather interpreter < 1354659006 11690 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it take up less memory than it contains < 1354659028 525711 :Taneb!~nathan@host-78-146-174-200.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know < 1354659031 972694 :Taneb!~nathan@host-78-146-174-200.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ask me again in the past < 1354659096 925009 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did, don't you remember? < 1354659168 157629 :Taneb!~nathan@host-78-146-174-200.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh yes < 1354659197 529079 :Taneb!~nathan@host-78-146-174-200.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :On a different note, I'm listening to songs I don't really like in a language I don't speak a word of < 1354659202 933959 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do I really see soundnfury saying bullshit about haskell in the logs yet another day < 1354659208 776083 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't you just go away forever or something < 1354659220 870415 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: why? < 1354659232 722680 :Taneb!~nathan@host-78-146-174-200.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, TO PERFECT MY ROLEPLAY < 1354659253 920906 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wraps soundnfury in a monad
< 1354659260 800771 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, oh no, don't you see? he's saying bullshit about haskell ironically < 1354659265 630721 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that makes him funny and interesting < 1354659275 829646 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting proposition! < 1354659286 879991 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i disagree and offer instead the proposition that it just makes him even more pointless < 1354659304 68733 :Taneb!~nathan@host-78-146-174-200.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl soundnfury < 1354659304 290633 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :soundnfury < 1354659307 175104 :Taneb!~nathan@host-78-146-174-200.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep < 1354659312 251580 :Taneb!~nathan@host-78-146-174-200.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's as pointless as they get < 1354659319 457722 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's being pointless ironically too! < 1354659324 978020 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :@unpl soundnfury < 1354659325 230448 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :soundnfury < 1354659365 718975 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354659403 703354 :Taneb!~nathan@host-78-146-174-200.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, really, it's just noise < 1354659432 897493 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's like the fixed point of pointlessness < 1354659432 975370 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1354659729 202979 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't Y combinate me! < 1354659738 941691 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1354659745 529714 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :please < 1354659749 128793 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is embarrassing for everyone < 1354659780 180973 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not embarrassed!!!!!!!!! < 1354659800 637523 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm just tiredly shaking my head < 1354659823 312989 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im smiling. hello soundnfury!!!welcome to esoteric < 1354659829 838615 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello monqy < 1354659850 170269 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Quit: Reconnecting… < 1354659856 797144 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I annoyed elliott by making a couple of haskell jibes < 1354659864 259729 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm sure he'll get over it eventually < 1354659864 772170 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pfff that'd annoy anyone < 1354659867 791319 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : FireFly, TO PERFECT MY ROLEPLAY <-- is this quenya, sindarin, klingon or something else? < 1354659876 887033 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't worry about it : ) < 1354659902 421601 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1354659927 973178 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes soundnfury, elliott was annoyed to a positive fervour by the sick burns you landed on haskell < 1354659939 839113 :jfischoff!~jfischoff@c-67-169-45-161.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354659942 413350 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :your attitude to life would make willy loman proud < 1354659958 680460 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :soundnfury: well it's more that you literally say nothing of value and have apparently created your "#esoteric persona" entirely around saying dumb things about haskell that nobody even cares about (because who cares about the opinions of someone who clearly knows nothing about haskell??) < 1354659959 943121 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Y pointlessness) < 1354659960 608204 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1354659985 362839 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you live up to your name i.e. told by an idiot, signifying nothing < 1354659988 856402 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :soundnfury: elliott's right!!! i know you only as "the haskellphobe" < 1354659992 227755 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1354659993 348584 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I do occasionally talk about other things < 1354659996 722043 :Taneb!~nathan@host-78-146-174-200.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1354659999 935444 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, actual esolangs < 1354660013 768730 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well maybe it would be good if you didn't drown that out with that dumbness < 1354660030 245260 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well maybe if there were more esolang talk in here there'd be something for me to talk about that wasn't dumb < 1354660084 329463 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :case in point: what does some irish lass who thinks she talks to angels have to do with esolangs? < 1354660092 236159 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well so clearly you don't like the contents of this channel < 1354660097 74179 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so instead of feebly "trolling" the people inside < 1354660098 708040 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not just go away < 1354660109 983551 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I /do/ like the thing this channel is ostensibly about < 1354660120 149877 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hint: thats not what the channel is actually about. shoo < 1354660122 608146 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you are going to troll it in the hopes it becomes off-topic??? < 1354660124 412756 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :by talking about < 1354660127 314131 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :something off-topic < 1354660141 187601 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't see how this can possibly have a productive end... you're freely admitting you are trying to bother us because you don't like what we talk about < 1354660159 274471 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: what is the meaning of life? < 1354660159 750362 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: ' ( 1 2) ( scheme-report-environment 5) < 1354660177 945426 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I'm not actually trying to bother you < 1354660199 461574 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, scheme. Of course. < 1354660205 632433 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just have difficulty resisting the opportunities to direct childish humour at Haskell when I happen to be bored < 1354660229 753391 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1354660233 844010 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and since, on days when I'm /not/ bored, there's not usually any conversation in this channel to join in with productively, < 1354660240 573428 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think you will find everyone in the channel either doesn't care about it or is bothered by it < 1354660244 922341 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you only tend to hear from me when I'm bored < 1354660247 969256 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, *I'm* going to sleep < 1354660250 221721 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Quit: zzz < 1354660262 644549 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so perhaps restrain yourself?? or just don't join when you're bored < 1354660270 68612 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn i was just going to xkcd him < 1354660295 452070 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I usually do restrain myself, but you don't see that, you only see the cases when my restraint fails < 1354660309 205139 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, try not to hate me /too/ much for not being perfect at restraint < 1354660369 379118 :Deewiant!~deewiant@109.75.188.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1354660401 378814 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :technically soundnfury had been here for hours before i noticed he was, of course that _was_ when he mentioned haskell. < 1354660452 464912 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well if you have a person the vast majority of who's (total pro grammar) contribution to the channel is to fail to restrain themselves and say dumb things then that's pretty suboptimal imo < 1354660490 539250 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :programmers are in favour of syntax. Erm, I mean... they're pro grammar. < 1354660501 702962 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"whose" yw < 1354660507 84928 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haskell... more like FUCK SKULL am i right < 1354660514 488933 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(no, i am not) < 1354660551 321493 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1354660567 814552 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: good morrow, hail and well met. Prithee tell me how thou farest this day. < 1354660573 225371 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haskell more like who would ever use a language with no I/O and you can't have variables???????am i right < 1354660578 61628 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's ok you are allowed to dis haskell here. but you have to do it in the type system. < 1354660631 749984 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i hear they represent strings as multiply-boxed linked lists!!! ha ha ha < 1354660632 632777 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and only because the kind system isn't powerful enough yet. < 1354660634 838777 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :( :( ) < 1354660657 860184 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :be kind to your type system. or is that a category error? < 1354660731 762016 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :On an unrelated topic, can someone give me architectural advice on a project I'm working on? < 1354660757 367773 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a programmable text editor (-ish thing) in Python... < 1354660760 531972 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1354660762 813579 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in any case, http://hauptwerk.blogspot.no/2012/11/coming-soon-in-ghc-head-poly-kinded.html is _clearly_ relevant < 1354660778 629083 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sort it out yourself, or ask people you haven't systematically annoyed < 1354660812 309556 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: but annoyed people can give good advice, under a set of implausible assumptions I won't list here < 1354661026 70257 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :am i annoyed enough to give good advice ? < 1354661028 759347 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :good to know the channel is getting back on topic < 1354661034 542211 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :#esotexteditors < 1354661064 213250 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :python is esoteric if you think about it hard enough < 1354661074 108505 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eschew's the common wisdom to use lexical scoping < 1354661082 566061 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :now that's innovation < 1354661090 960940 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's almost lexical scoping < 1354661118 805145 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i think python 3 gets it right? < 1354661119 464454 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure < 1354661121 904202 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"right" anyway < 1354661124 422517 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Another cool thing is that now even type classes can have Typeable instances; since we allow abstraction over Constraint, datatypes may have parameters involving the Constraint kind, so to support Typeable for those datatypes, we need to support Typeable for type classes in general (as pointed out by Gábor Lehel)." < 1354661129 780501 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this the future < 1354661139 715635 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there an instance Typeable Typeable..... < 1354661157 495109 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a future in which the future is syb < 1354661157 881781 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy god < 1354661222 688480 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's python's scoping like < 1354661222 922721 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Want to write alongside for traversals? < 1354661226 19807 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this sounds juicy < 1354661255 332784 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :are these lens shenanigans related to syb? < 1354661266 373784 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not really. < 1354661273 276081 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should add that the first part of it I'm implementing is actually an emulated `ed' session < 1354661315 6719 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1354661325 782151 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck off and ask someone who cares < 1354661339 56465 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :soundnfury: perhaps bonghits will fix your emulated `ed' session < 1354661365 60267 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: oh. I was assuming you'd continue to maintain a pretense of civility < 1354661370 740593 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: if you write "x = 3" in a nested function, it puts a binding in your most local frame, not in whatever frame (if any) originally defined 'x' < 1354661373 805219 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :big whoop imo < 1354661382 320220 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :soundnfury, ass of u and me, etc. < 1354661385 900148 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's kind of like scheme's 'define' vs 'set!' < 1354661389 452731 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Python 3 you can say nonlocal x < 1354661400 332972 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :nonlocal? what a nice keyword < 1354661410 98969 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry wait no, you haven't made an ass of me at all < 1354661413 770072 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this arises because python doesn't have a distinction between declaring a variable and assigning to one < 1354661413 903522 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, local definitions like that may sometimes be useful in macros, although Haskell has bad support for macros anyways. < 1354661414 329563 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: well, they couldn't call it "global", that was taken < 1354661416 842580 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which even scheme does kinda < 1354661419 937430 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :now, does that mean "sane x" or just "different x" < 1354661429 258756 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are simply digging your own fetid little hole ever-deeper < 1354661433 675339 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354661440 628781 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have used macros like that in C, though. < 1354661452 336364 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other thing about python is that 'for' loops and friends don't create new scopes; they mutate the counter variable in the function's scope < 1354661457 239248 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :however many languages work this way < 1354661461 917560 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: funny, it doesn't look that way to me < 1354661487 896276 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is some additional weirdness with generator expressions tho < 1354661493 863654 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love how choosing the wrong name for the iteration variable in a for loop causes bugs after the for loop < 1354661500 498569 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, your lack of perspective is one of your major flaws < 1354661507 425004 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I haven't even /mentioned/ a certain language even though several other people have < 1354661509 639122 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :see #3 here: http://web.archive.org/web/20101009122154/http://web.mit.edu/rwbarton/www/python.html < 1354661522 916539 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I heard you were going to get that back up on the real Internet. < 1354661525 448330 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that I expected you to indicate any awareness of my restraint when present < 1354661547 636441 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok so one of you has to go otherwise this dumb argument will continue on to infinity < 1354661550 395278 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i vote soundnfury < 1354661573 668321 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been /trying/ to let go, but Phantom_Hoover doesn't seem to like that idea < 1354661647 74081 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's cute how you think you can just act obnoxiously and expect everyone to 'let go' < 1354661653 593755 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, i vote soundnfury also < 1354661770 72593 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, how about that other topic of conversation that isn't a pointless argument between me and Phantom_Hoover, eh? <-- if someone can provide one, I'd be grateful < 1354661798 99414 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no we'd be perfectly content for you to simply shut up < 1354661803 207188 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or get kicked < 1354661811 802012 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i vote both soundnfury and Phantom_Hoover shut up < 1354662072 366612 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pandyland.net/random/?comicid=722779190 < 1354662079 509987 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Remember that one time I said nonsense in #haskell? < 1354662082 13664 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I read somewhere, making up cards of Magic: the Gathering only involving the name of itself and the text of the comprehensive rules. One card is a enchantment called "Nirvana" with text: Goblins cannot reach Nirvana. < 1354662120 568150 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yep < 1354662128 904405 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I interpret it to mean that, if this card ever becomes a creature, and gains flying, then the reach ability does not permit other creatures to block it if those creatures have the "Goblin" creature type. < 1354662186 466172 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1354662226 481024 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: nice < 1354662234 321644 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :any other good examples? < 1354662238 151075 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1354662258 654397 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The closest thing to “ nonsense” i could find was “ What nonsense?” on 2012-11-20. < 1354662275 944413 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Don't logread me! < 1354662300 755362 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I don't have other examples, sorry. < 1354662636 618177 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION -> sleep
< 1354662639 521308 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1354662779 6580 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the enchantment itself has to become a creature? < 1354662803 1277 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Yes, I think it would have to become a creature with flying before its text would have any effect on the game. < 1354662860 707949 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1354663104 462234 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quoth Wikipedia: In 1864, Congress authorized a third series of fractional currency notes. The five-cent note was to bear a depiction of "Clark", but Congress was appalled when the issue came out not with a portrait of William Clark, the explorer, but Spencer M. Clark, head of the Currency Bureau. According to numismatic historian Walter Breen, Congress's "immediate infuriated response was to pass a law retiring the five-cent denomination, and another to forbid p < 1354663104 575720 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ortrayal of any living person on federal coins or currency." < 1354663112 936288 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That guy is the greatest troll in history X-D < 1354663226 413063 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll give that a chuckle and an imaginary slow clap and/or applause < 1354663557 725672 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2012/12/04/one-in-four-americans-has-an-opinion-about-an-imaginary-debt-plan/ < 1354663899 46346 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :PPP is pretty awesome. I like their twitter. < 1354663923 286299 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i didn't even notice it was them < 1354663924 502535 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Point-to-Point Protocol? < 1354663933 228339 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ppppolls < 1354663979 386185 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Public Policy Polling, I think. < 1354663986 228568 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha, they re-tweeted someone asking "Could @ppppolls be any more blatantly biased?" < 1354664001 70362 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They were retweeting people ranting at them all throughout November. < 1354664006 677386 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't even respond < 1354664009 654930 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like their style < 1354664012 777399 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :All the ones about how Romney was totally going to win, etc < 1354664035 741711 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"(I don't remember getting a single phone call in response to that video, although the crazy voice mails did blend together at some point)" < 1354664045 229431 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"49% of GOP voters nationally say they think that ACORN stole the election for President Obama. We found that 52% of Republicans thought that ACORN stole the 2008 election for Obama, so this is a modest decline, but perhaps smaller than might have been expected given that ACORN doesn't exist anymore." < 1354664060 966735 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pffff < 1354664081 272312 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they also point out that "One reason that such a high percentage of Republicans are holding what could be seen as extreme views is that their numbers are declining" < 1354664100 762848 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :everybody remotely sane is being driven out of the party < 1354664104 764078 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :did they also record the percentage of people identifying as republican in that poll? < 1354664109 278199 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember it went down a lot lately < 1354664110 46268 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's kind of wonderful as well < 1354664115 1869 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is < 1354664120 510442 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a fun implosion to watch < 1354664125 898968 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't know about that poll specifically but they say it went down from 37% to 32% at the election < 1354664212 397859 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.40.155 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354664274 9084 :example!4d557a90@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.85.122.144 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354664318 251833 :example!4d557a90@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.85.122.144 PART :#esoteric < 1354664419 772195 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.40.155 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1354665089 867030 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.40.155 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1354665105 537759 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hird elliott likes vault. < 1354665128 81772 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Death Metal Fat Cat Drum Cover http://youtu.be/yWcak9tZupc < 1354665139 970625 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yo elliott, i hird you like vault, so i put a vault in your vault < 1354665194 329201 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see what you did there. < 1354665340 203744 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't. < 1354665354 554370 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Remember back when I did that "u mad" thing? < 1354665364 344847 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember that #esoteric was window 19 in irssi at the time. < 1354665366 323951 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe 18 < 1354665367 965434 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now it's 11 < 1354665375 399232 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :26 < 1354665394 913319 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :26 is terrible! < 1354665467 128305 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the significance of the number itself and the fact that you remember it? < 1354665603 218014 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Tell conal that. < 1354665608 523205 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1354665613 412806 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: No significance. < 1354665623 384398 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ok, thanks for sharing < 1354665653 534194 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Remember back when I had #concatenative as window 10? < 1354665656 325647 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was crazy. < 1354665703 455249 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember that < 1354665824 398118 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :remember back before we got amnesia? < 1354665831 314721 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seventeen. < 1354665867 233675 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's numberwang < 1354666160 791271 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :gopher://zzo38computer.org:70/0textfile/miscellaneous/PMUIDS < 1354666368 783428 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1354666563 420644 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1354667078 117493 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I don't have Gopher. < 1354667081 991864 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can I have an HTTP version? < 1354667165 862979 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354667167 136510 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://zzo38computer.org/textfile/miscellaneous/PMUIDS < 1354667191 94024 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The gopher version is considered official, however. < 1354667230 885700 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :By whom? < 1354667292 691579 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :By myself. < 1354667308 285240 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But, both are the same file, so it doesn't matter. < 1354667351 252030 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it's about pokemon < 1354667535 520703 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :sweet, class 1 snow warning in my area (class 1 is lowest class and basically means "potentially annoying weather", but still) < 1354667573 138449 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Would I be correct in assuming the Nintendo pmuids use National Pokedex numbers? < 1354667597 862402 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. Bulbasaur is pmuid:1 < 1354667610 364208 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm, pmuids:1 < 1354667667 94035 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and Mew of course pmuids:151) < 1354667685 639525 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: Yes. < 1354667695 737378 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You are correct. < 1354667702 733486 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You may want to specify that. :) < 1354667764 931114 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK. I fixed it. < 1354667961 900598 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<- no snow at all but annoyingly cold. for now. < 1354668002 470114 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :<- chance of snow this weekend. < 1354668018 146612 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :<- Saaaan Fraaaanciscoooooooo < 1354668025 958863 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe my girlfriend will actually see a snowy Colorado. That'd be something. < 1354668038 216202 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Well, if it snows there the apocalypse is real. < 1354668044 347557 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hehehe < 1354668082 606833 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :california gets apocalypses all the time, doesn't it? < 1354668119 703999 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :apocalypses really only happen once though < 1354668215 70258 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :SF got an inch of snow in Feb 2011 < 1354668219 227921 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :previous occasion was in 1976 < 1354668235 902208 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would believe that both 1976 and 2011 were apocalypse years < 1354668265 522981 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, the last time the LA area got snow was 1962 < 1354668816 234847 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: cuban missile crisis, obviously. < 1354669490 390632 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :We got about 7 inches of snow last weekend. < 1354669701 559481 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They did predict up to 16, so I guess it wasn't that bad. < 1354670106 260298 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1354670381 741484 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354671020 385687 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1354671463 11859 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1354673577 893683 :segorev!~cherep@broadband-46-188-0-82.2kom.ru JOIN :#esoteric < 1354673845 158417 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow a friend just pointed out to me that clang can do things like this: https://gist.github.com/4211534 < 1354673940 93252 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's movabsq do? < 1354674052 108569 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :load 64-bit immediate value < 1354674054 944712 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think < 1354674083 714583 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :btq... bit test @_@ < 1354674124 663812 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1354674137 107327 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> showIntAtBase 2 intToDigit 4294977024 "" < 1354674138 668623 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : "100000000000000000010011000000000" < 1354674139 825683 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1354674147 615597 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :\r is 0x0D, \n is 0x0A, \t is 0x09, ' ' is 0x20 < 1354674150 325116 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so um... < 1354674171 592347 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> length $ showIntAtBase 2 intToDigit 4294977024 "" < 1354674173 48642 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : 33 < 1354674206 272648 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it copies a bit from the given register to the carry flag....? < 1354674231 235778 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH. < 1354674243 883021 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's doing a 64-way table lookup using a single register. < 1354674247 891300 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :64-bit boolean table lookup < 1354674248 267182 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1354674249 186997 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg < 1354674254 422045 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is wonderful < 1354674264 217563 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never seen it done that way < 1354674278 69439 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've done it before in code with something like... < 1354674306 360077 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :#define 4BIT_ARRAY_LOOKUP(x) ((constant>>(4*(x)))&0xF) < 1354674322 572710 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but bit test saves an instruction if you only need one bit I think... < 1354674331 347366 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :since you'd have to do shift + and < 1354674344 568382 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but gosh I've never seen a compiler automate that, wow < 1354674522 893127 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1354674524 786706 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am impressed < 1354674548 689163 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it must be pretty good for lexers in general < 1354674590 809373 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1354674735 906754 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm guessing it's a similar optimization to the one where it combines if( i == 15 || i == 16 || i == 17 ) into if( i >= 15 && i <= 17 ) < 1354674742 758063 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think gcc does that one < 1354674850 742695 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this seems rather more involved, to my ignorant eyes < 1354674879 540356 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's just combining N checks, realizing they fall in a 64-bit range, and generating a bit array I think...? < 1354674885 260466 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean the asm is weird but < 1354674966 894509 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure exactly how the optimization pass is implemented < 1354674970 261827 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :would be interested to find out < 1354675064 259788 :sebbu2!~sebbu@83.194.57.239 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354675064 333179 :sebbu2!~sebbu@83.194.57.239 QUIT :Changing host < 1354675064 333310 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1354675143 292383 :sebbu3!~sebbu@83.194.57.239 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354675160 86175 :sebbu3!~sebbu@83.194.57.239 QUIT :Changing host < 1354675160 159839 :sebbu3!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1354675205 32695 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1354675333 236495 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1354675434 974768 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1354675491 177163 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1354675540 357514 :SingingBoyo!~SingingBo@d173-180-176-35.bchsia.telus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354676952 705078 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1354676965 416545 :kallisti!~eris@168.28.136.16 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354676965 489826 :kallisti!~eris@168.28.136.16 QUIT :Changing host < 1354676965 490006 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1354677207 128288 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1354677246 210494 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354677554 480790 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1354678729 64589 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Arc_Koen < 1354679039 30051 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-43-239.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1354679039 140047 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-43-239.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1354679039 140201 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1354679258 221605 :sebbu3!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1354679941 88007 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://blog.regehr.org/archives/320 example 7 here is similar < 1354680025 35153 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Intel's compiler does some really neat things < 1354680030 936991 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :One thing I saw it do once was something like this < 1354680052 177800 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was some code where two pointers could alias, and if they actually did, the compiler would have to do something a lot worse < 1354680058 160611 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it made a branch based on whether or not the pointers aliased < 1354680063 786301 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and compiled two copies of the code < 1354680139 752767 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh. I like the thing clang does in example 5, I've never seen gcc do that sort of thing < 1354680198 712703 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so clang is better at compiling gcc than gcc is, then :P < 1354680230 370618 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess that coincidentally answers the question of whether gcc deals with ranges, though < 1354680264 61420 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Example 4!! oh god I actually remember that thing from the optimization manual < 1354680286 229547 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Intel optimized their instruction decoder in some weird way that makes handling length-changing prefixes insanely slow (like, 6 cycles per instruction slow) < 1354680300 261286 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1354680363 307070 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, intel did a crazy good job on example 3. < 1354680406 973630 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah iirc intel's chips have a few decoder units, and only one of them can handle the full x86 syntax with all its stupid bells and whistles < 1354680429 679156 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's worse than that, it holds up the entire pipeline for something like 6 cycles per instruction < 1354680434 542816 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch < 1354680440 491978 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think this is a new thing though < 1354680447 613539 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the old rule was "3 simple instructions, 1 complex instruction" per cycle < 1354680466 23584 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :My guess is they have some kind of predecoder that guesses the lengths of instructions and if it's wrong they have to flush the whole thing and start over < 1354680506 790829 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and example 1. I wonder what the conditions for able-to-statically-evaluate-loops is for each compiler... and I just read that article backwards <_<; < 1354680594 544993 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-patches/2012-03/msg01932.html oooh here's the patch for gcc to fix that 16-bit immediate issue. < 1354680801 706077 :ifnspifn!~ifnspifn@184.90.25.102 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1354680817 156150 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://blog.regehr.org/archives/324 there are some followups here < 1354680819 385294 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :another gcc patch < 1354680820 352063 :ifnspifn!~ifnspifn@184.90.25.102 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354680913 650777 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION throws example 4 at bike because division by multiplication taking advantage of limited input range
< 1354680936 900793 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mruh, i'm totally out of my depth here, you know < 1354680946 222711 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you were just talking about that the other day right :< < 1354680956 906854 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but i'm still shit at it < 1354680963 394207 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are nooooot < 1354680998 162868 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :multiply and conquer < 1354681004 23355 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are really smart okay >_< < 1354681134 952117 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :where is shachaf < 1354681536 498886 :SingingBoyo!~SingingBo@d173-180-176-35.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: idk, I think he was on #haskell earlier though < 1354681554 958021 :Sgeo|web!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354681564 624359 :Sgeo|web!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did coppro use the opportunity to beat me? < 1354681593 706089 :Sgeo|web!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In case not: elliott monqy Fiora < 1354681664 481514 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did not :( < 1354681674 563646 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thankies < 1354681942 549948 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi kmc < 1354681953 87676 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Palo Alto < 1354681963 133722 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://gist.github.com/4211534 < 1354682015 469071 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sorry you cannot be at palo alto, that's a mythical place from legends < 1354682031 581300 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a big tree < 1354682036 470958 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you in the tree shachaf < 1354682081 150813 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never actually seen the tree, though I think it's relatively close to where I live? < 1354682084 103030 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should go see it. < 1354682090 603108 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION looks.
< 1354682106 952783 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you aren't confusing it with yggdrasil? < 1354682122 370039 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yggdrasil? watch out for the FOEs < 1354682247 690594 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it's using the char as a bit index into a 64-bit integer? < 1354682252 830583 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's clever. < 1354682282 398813 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1354682329 542046 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Efforts to restore the tree's health by the Southern Pacific Railroad, the City of Palo Alto and local citizens included progressive pruning off of the dying treetop, addition of soil and mulch at the tree’s base, removal of dead limbs, pesticide spraying and installation of a pipe up its trunk to bring water to the top of the tree.[6] Although the tree stands today at only 68% of its former stature, it enjoys greater health than nearly a century a < 1354682381 815698 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ago." < 1354682463 698333 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders how general whatever it is that does that optimization is.
< 1354682479 194261 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd be cool to see the code for it < 1354682569 625342 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is some FUD about how Supertrain will murder El Palo Alto < 1354682572 128863 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :NIMBY FUD < 1354682580 983689 :ifnspifn!~ifnspifn@184.90.25.102 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1354682609 337478 :ifnspifn!~ifnspifn@184.90.25.102 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354682610 215715 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i tried it on various subsets of ASCII 0..128 and it seemed to use the bitmask < 1354682636 950582 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, yes, I assume it's not *just* for the characters " \r\n\t" < 1354682657 675159 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i think it won't branch to use two different bitmasks, one for 0..63 and one for 64..128 < 1354682669 931759 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for a randomly selected subset of 0..255 it used a function pointer lookup table < 1354682673 15623 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's 2 kB! < 1354682689 735695 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would have thought a table of single bytes is better < 1354682695 454135 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a function pointer lookup table, wow < 1354682700 549988 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :since you are just going to load that byte to %rax and then ret, anyway < 1354682702 958468 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds a little bit overkill < 1354682734 699062 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hope that ICC loads the entire table into a YMM register :D < 1354682775 557624 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think there's a simd bit test though... < 1354682790 809805 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you'd probably have to set a bit and shuffle it into place? < 1354682816 20253 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pslldq/psrldq are byte shifts only < 1354682911 229562 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Given that you can't even get a CPU with AVX2 these days... < 1354682967 11144 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :could use AVX with float instructions, like doing a vpand and then a vcomiss or something... < 1354682971 16085 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but icky < 1354683017 714009 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, last time I looked at the AVX1 instructions they were very limited for what I wanted to do. < 1354683033 680224 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, it's really hard to do anything useful integer-wise with them since it's float-only >_< < 1354683051 188163 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've played some with AVX2 but it's not very satisfying because it's not like the emulator can tell me how fast it's going to run < 1354683080 754455 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously we need bit test functions for floats < 1354683237 999558 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's with all the people with nicks that start with an uppercase letter? < 1354683265 479621 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought that was illegal. < 1354683290 598988 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're illegal. < 1354683304 403874 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :um.... it's... it's like a name, so... < 1354683374 859416 :Sgeo|web!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reading about some tools on BackTrack Linux < 1354683384 194666 :Sgeo|web!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would anyone ever actually fall for this http://www.question-defense.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/2-22-2010-11-11-15-PM.png < 1354683399 360337 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you serious? of course! < 1354683415 483175 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would fall for that were i not paying attention < 1354683858 196434 :Sgeo|web!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is Kubuntu still shit? < 1354683945 888988 :Sgeo|web!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Going by http://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1114379-kubuntu-1210-review/ perhaps not < 1354684173 784336 :Sgeo|web!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it unreasonable for me to want to use XenClient? < 1354684187 729525 :Sgeo|web!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And thus run multiple OSes at the same time? < 1354684194 193272 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.172 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354684394 719008 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo|web: of course < 1354684592 250673 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is the code responsible: https://github.com/llvm-mirror/llvm/blob/master/lib/CodeGen/SelectionDAG/SelectionDAGBuilder.cpp#L2349 < 1354684691 584690 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :geez, some arches don't even have shl? < 1354684728 204265 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it does some tests to see if it's worthwhile... < 1354684782 378011 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is extremely cool < 1354685057 887856 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-43-239.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1354685076 754162 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-43-239.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1354685076 826869 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1354685190 1331 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1354685542 495901 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i wonder which ones don't have it < 1354685549 518327 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: thanks for finding that code btw < 1354685561 373608 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm. 8086 only had shl and shr by 1 I think < 1354685575 858390 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, thanks, that was really cool to look at evenif I'm clueless about llvm internals < 1354685684 934748 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.172 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1354685878 289920 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.172 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354686014 839111 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunately GHC doesn't generate code that LLVM recognizes for this trick. < 1354686305 946511 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-43-239.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1354686326 151931 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-43-239.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1354686326 261837 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1354686544 910757 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1354686564 385228 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.172 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1354688797 427099 :evincar!~jon@173-228-13-253.dsl.static.sonic.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354689375 10757 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm reasonably sure x86 had N-shifts from the get-go. < 1354689409 364416 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"To reduce the maximum execution time, the 80386 does not allow shift counts greater than 31. If a shift count greater than 31 is attempted, only the bottom five bits of the shift count are used. (The 8086 uses all eight bits of the shift count.)" sort of suggests so too. < 1354689559 870057 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Z80 (and maybe 8080?) can only shift by one, though. < 1354689599 30594 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :6502 only had shift by one iirc < 1354689647 333894 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the real question is, is there an llvm backend for the NES. < 1354689950 588162 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Go hdniotg < 1354689965 750701 :jfischoff!~jfischoff@c-67-169-45-161.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: jfischoff < 1354690778 7545 :cherep_!~cherep@broadband-46-188-0-82.2kom.ru JOIN :#esoteric < 1354690951 890423 :Sgeo|web!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should watch some Twilight Zone episodes someday < 1354690962 741622 :segorev!~cherep@broadband-46-188-0-82.2kom.ru QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1354690963 117563 :Sgeo|web!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are all of the episodes considered classics, or just the ones I've heard of? < 1354691507 762716 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :just the ones you've heard of < 1354691532 272114 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :monsters/maple street, it's a good life, handful of others < 1354691537 704700 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't heard of any. < 1354691684 680243 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1354691693 130947 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo|web: A significant number of them are classics. < 1354691706 370910 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Then you have been living under a damned rock. < 1354691719 795794 :Sgeo|web!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I worry about spoilers? < 1354691730 957923 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've heard of the Twilight Zone, just not any specific episodes. < 1354691734 412694 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have probably already experienced the spoilers. < 1354691741 756524 :Sgeo|web!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Already spoiled It's a Good Life and Monsters/Maple Street, and know of that one with the glasses) < 1354691746 418140 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Welp, you've got 5 seasons to binge. < 1354691758 362939 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"no thx" < 1354691823 131873 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :nightmare at 20k feet < 1354691986 950461 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Is mosh vulnerable to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Closely_related_key attacks? < 1354692250 216811 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you know anyone writing pokemon battle simulators and other pokemon related computer programming, or who makes up the new pokemons, you can notify them about PMUIDS. < 1354692274 765685 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I know one person on IRC. < 1354692282 148614 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Do you know about PMUIDS? < 1354692288 797652 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: gopher://zzo38computer.org:70/0textfile/miscellaneous/PMUIDS < 1354692318 630800 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Yes, I wrote it. But, I mean other people who use it; currently I do not use it (although in future I may use it) < 1354692368 787709 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-43-239.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1354692385 99201 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-43-239.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1354692385 172111 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1354692487 25636 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If there is anything else wrong/unclear, you can notify me about that; I already made clearer about the official numbers < 1354692494 832172 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1354692626 243034 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: It's possible that PMUIDS would be more popular if it preferred HTTP to Gopher. < 1354692676 233186 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the same file can be accessed by HTTP and it is the same file either way so it doesn't matter. < 1354692744 211113 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The reason it isn't more popular is because I wrote it today. < 1354693377 238395 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And now for something different (and unrelated): < 1354693411 647968 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A puzzle game I am designing: It is like a cross between Hero Hearts and Magic: the Gathering, with a little bit of chess and Dungeons&Dragons. < 1354694159 964797 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1354695335 322467 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.172 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354695876 128196 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1354696021 963033 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-ell1-h-1-5.dab.02.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354696075 689283 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-ell1-h-1-5.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The topic will probably not help confused newcomers :-P < 1354696111 20568 :Sgeo|web!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Fiora monqy: coppro failed again < 1354696134 114792 :Sgeo|web!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless the time I came in here was after the second update, which I was unaware of < 1354696366 526239 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-ell1-h-1-5.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was reading the ideas list, I really like the idea of the language that only has one big program < 1354696385 29582 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-ell1-h-1-5.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :("communist language") < 1354696403 503184 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-ell1-h-1-5.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trying to figure out a way to enforce it at the minute < 1354696504 56087 :Sgeo|web!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :One big program as in, only one program of a certain complexity, or, only one program and that program is large/ < 1354696515 196699 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.172 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1354696516 908880 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-ell1-h-1-5.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The latter < 1354696549 558060 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-ell1-h-1-5.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want to write code in this language it has to go into the same program that everybody else is writing < 1354696550 869578 :Sgeo|web!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some obvious but boring ways to do it come to mind < 1354696557 656310 :Sgeo|web!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, wait, huh? < 1354696596 116316 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-ell1-h-1-5.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The ideas page suggests having a public wiki as "the editor" for the source code < 1354696644 743267 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-ell1-h-1-5.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did I explain it confusingly? < 1354696665 107166 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: sleep < 1354696738 138411 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-ell1-h-1-5.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't think of a non-boring solution :-/ < 1354696903 344222 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Distributed Befunge: a shared Funge-Space into which all programs are written, every new writer gets a random storage offset and starting position; if collisions happen, problems ensue. < 1354696912 352652 :evincar!~jon@173-228-13-253.dsl.static.sonic.net QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1354696930 499053 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-ell1-h-1-5.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"deal with it" < 1354696945 680100 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-ell1-h-1-5.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm < 1354697002 915359 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-ell1-h-1-5.dab.02.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1354697025 173551 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-ell1-h-1-2.dab.02.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354697048 950974 :greyooze!~greyknigh@dab-ell1-h-1-2.dab.02.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354697060 470976 :greyooze!~greyknigh@dab-ell1-h-1-2.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmph, where was I < 1354697077 938944 :greyooze!~greyknigh@dab-ell1-h-1-2.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh yeah, the shared space idea has merit, I like that < 1354697218 582365 :greyooze!~greyknigh@dab-ell1-h-1-2.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, idea: < 1354697221 234070 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How well do you think it would work to output the number of activated loads or total pressure of a noit o' mnain worb as a audio signal? < 1354697297 764492 :greyooze!~greyknigh@dab-ell1-h-1-2.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The interpreter for communistlang keeps track of the last code it was asked to run. The next code you supply it must be a purely additive diff from the previous < 1354697323 464159 :greyooze!~greyknigh@dab-ell1-h-1-2.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, you could assign different tones to the loads < 1354697387 684153 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :greyooze: Yes you could do that too, I suppose, how well would that work? < 1354697425 807206 :greyooze!~greyknigh@dab-ell1-h-1-2.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, but it sounds like it would be fun to find out! < 1354697457 815779 :greyooze!~greyknigh@dab-ell1-h-1-2.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps total pressure controls the volume? < 1354697515 372013 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-ell1-h-1-2.dab.02.net QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1354697532 280512 :greyooze!~greyknigh@dab-ell1-h-1-2.dab.02.net NICK :GreyKnight < 1354697556 837827 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-ell1-h-1-2.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(A puddle of ooze springs up and assembles itself into a knight!) < 1354697635 613215 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was a distributed something conversation here a few years back. (But that's all I remember of it.) < 1354697683 442809 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-ell1-h-1-2.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Somebody used the word 'distributed' once. That's all I know." :o) < 1354697834 406486 :ifnspifn!~ifnspifn@184.90.25.102 QUIT :Quit: ifnspifn < 1354697890 208740 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-ell1-h-1-2.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's see, it needs to be easy to compose new code on top of the old < 1354697922 893437 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-ell1-h-1-2.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I guess need to handle command-line args easily since doubtless lots of them will be used < 1354697944 853933 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-ell1-h-1-2.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Swiss-army-knife" programs tend to end up that way! < 1354697960 341053 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-ell1-h-1-2.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically this is busybox writ large :-D < 1354698375 126825 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-ell1-h-1-2.dab.02.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1354698854 811205 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1354698957 770273 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1354699406 269275 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: what was that message splitting script you used < 1354699427 938164 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :/script load splitlong.pl ? < 1354699430 219278 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one that isn't autowrap. i know this because i'm using autowrap < 1354699526 954983 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :splitlong.pl, yes. < 1354699643 638254 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really, it's pretty much equivalent to autowrap, except it does the splitting on its own (instead of Text::Wrap) and has /set'able settings for the maximum length and what prefix/suffix to use for continuation lines, as well as the (sometimes misworking) automagical maximum length calculation. < 1354699809 617396 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: /join #haskell-lens < 1354699815 527621 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can learn lens! < 1354699826 265120 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::' < 1354699830 367569 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :': < 1354699832 704873 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does that really work ? < 1354699862 446063 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i decided to use autowrap because i didn't want to /set maximum length and i didn't want the misworking) < 1354699873 406470 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the does that really work ? was directed at lens < 1354699901 305338 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Does Text::Wrap have any exciting edgecases? < 1354699928 321904 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: lens doesn't work at all < 1354699931 133027 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"sorry" < 1354700045 153495 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1354700135 466146 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I don't think Text::Wrap does anything particularly clever, or how well it handles edge cases. splitlong's custom splitting is pretty ad-hoc, it just splits at the rightmost " " character unless that would give a line shorter than maxlen/10+4 character, in which case it just splits at maxlen even in mid-word. < 1354700184 213933 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Can't you make a perfect version? < 1354700198 894746 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really know what else I'd need. < 1354700214 731559 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, autowrap seems to have a "autowrap: unable to split long line. sent as-is" special case, but I don't know if that ever fires. < 1354700232 621762 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It happens if Text::Wrap returns a line longer than what has been requested. < 1354700311 464293 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :According to the documentation, that never happens. < 1354700456 53553 :SingingBoyo!~SingingBo@d173-180-176-35.bchsia.telus.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1354700791 207499 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354700976 176675 :Sgeo|web!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there any emulators that faithfully emulate a CPU such that, it can emulate a Pentium well enough to be vulnerable to f00f? < 1354701038 911271 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think f00f was a bug because the Pentium didn't successfully emulate a Pentium < 1354701060 711971 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1354701372 911263 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1354702467 603746 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354703514 382111 :Sgeo|web!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi Phantom_Hoover did you see the updates? < 1354703519 487784 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1354705576 218053 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-43-239.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1354705576 290970 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-43-239.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1354705576 291109 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1354705659 633102 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1354707153 5440 :Sgeo|web!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1354707562 764155 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1354708126 228528 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-43-239.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1354708147 173161 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-43-239.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1354708147 245755 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1354708202 277370 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1354709282 22698 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1354709377 734425 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1354709575 194409 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1354709635 5111 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Which script should I use. :( < 1354709698 762475 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used splitlong. < 1354709722 386050 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :/script load splitlong.pl < 1354709729 325500 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"it just works" elliott!! < 1354709750 942841 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't work if you don't have it! < 1354709760 659026 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it comes with it. < 1354709770 447703 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does? < 1354709775 492428 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it did for me! < 1354709784 929474 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hear it doesn't work if you have a cloak. < 1354709789 324284 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess elliott doesn't use Debian. < 1354709801 310939 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, it appears to on Arch at least. < 1354709802 39603 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ dpkg-query -L irssi | grep -i split < 1354709802 113321 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :/usr/share/irssi/scripts/splitlong.pl < 1354709805 128828 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I'll be. < 1354709808 690432 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :solidity uses Debian. < 1354709814 761691 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway I hear it doesn't work if you have a cloak. < 1354709819 938926 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also its splitting sounds ad-hoc! Is Text::Wrap ad hoc? < 1354709840 620196 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not any better, if that's what you mean. < 1354709867 648490 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It might not have the same per-ten-plus-four rule, but that's about it. < 1354709883 357418 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's still "split at spaces, or if there are no spaces, just split at maximum width". < 1354709916 208688 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Arch package only includes the .tar.bz2 from irssi.org so presumably it does come with it. < 1354710016 640583 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps you should use schlong.irc. It's the ircII script for a trüe warrior. < 1354710025 569650 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://packetstorm.foofus.com/irc/scripts/schlong.irc there's one version right there. < 1354710062 878110 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just look at that stuff. < 1354710080 298599 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(You did ask a generic question about "which script".) < 1354710224 967234 :nortti!nortti@dsl-hkibrasgw3-ff25c000-52.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :who else still uses ircII? < 1354710286 197030 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just the /mircwar commands are the greatest. "/cmosbomb - CMOS bomb. Probably the worst of them all, this bomb overwrites the CMOS of the victim's PC and replaces it with absolute crap. This often causes dataloss, hardware configuration loss, permanent BIOS damage, permanent mouse damage, and other problems." (It tries to DCC-send some bad heavy-metal poetry with the file name CLOCK$.) < 1354710291 760763 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I think this might be the most 90s file on the internet. < 1354710306 239968 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love it < 1354710336 586627 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"coal shoved into my skull - the time of beasts - a time to raise the mind plants seeds of time defined within my loathsome eye - the is black of rage - red." < 1354710340 44191 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what it sends. < 1354710346 741063 :nortti!nortti@dsl-hkibrasgw3-ff25c000-52.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it include winnuke? < 1354710348 84732 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I abbreviated it a bit.) < 1354710374 288402 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :alias netcum { < 1354710374 466835 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if ([$0]) { < 1354710374 540246 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :eval msg $0 $ctcpstring < 1354710374 540409 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :}{ < 1354710374 540533 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :secho Usage: /NETCUM <nick>. 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< 1354710492 551273 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was also very a popular thing to do those days. < 1354710496 499924 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : /quote PRIVMSG $0 :
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< 1354710500 429959 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :truly great functionality < 1354710504 699808 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if ([$poopy]==[zmodem]) < 1354710512 652378 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(You can do it with ping -p too.) < 1354710514 515080 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : timer 3 //^topic #^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ DiE mIRC BiTCH - schlOng < 1354710521 934921 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :christ < 1354710536 840240 :nortti!nortti@dsl-hkibrasgw3-ff25c000-52.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :that messed uo my curses so bad < 1354710539 110561 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Usage: /VAXKILL <nick>. Works on VAX 1.7.3 users." wow < 1354710567 53980 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :^assign BOOMSTR
ECHO ¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥ BooM We ArE RoXiN jo0 AsS ¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥� < 1354710573 103666 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥ ¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥
< 1354710579 758799 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is art < 1354710581 624633 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: The "vax killer" is also /ctcp $0 action says hello. < 1354710592 951849 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : secho Neato yet sometimes annoying jumping status logo is now $schroll\. < 1354710617 732926 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should check if my schlong version is newer or later. I think it had some admonishments at top about how it is strictly forbidden to distribute it to "lamers". < 1354710622 826690 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(If I can still find it.) < 1354710637 214372 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: this script is basically what I imagine EFNet to still be like < 1354710685 711135 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are also all those things targeted to users of different scripts. < 1354710782 571423 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :See the eval ^if's at the very end; those are to detect if you've loaded an inferior script before loading schlong; it quits if that has happened. < 1354710814 473554 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't find schlong.irc. :/ < 1354710822 445816 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which might be sensible given the invasive nature of these kinds of scripts? < 1354710834 901313 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Not that that's necessarily the reason.) < 1354710913 600016 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I've seen that /topicflood live. < 1354710939 590073 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It updates the topic on every on-channel message/notice, to that message's contents. < 1354710950 434275 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure what the point of it is. < 1354711009 819491 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1354711095 376234 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Well, not since "quit" here means "actually /quit IRC with an author-disparaging message". < 1354711112 96131 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, then not. < 1354711135 694504 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are nine pages of "hacking scripts" in this /crahd/♣ Hacking ♣/cd5hack/Hacking/irc/scripts/ folder of this weird Polish file-sharing site. < 1354711152 720269 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott TOPIC #esoteric :♣ Hacking ♣ http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1354711227 136765 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also in the comments of "furricane"'s "Whiskerino 2009" profile someone is proud of "hav[ing] my nickname mentioned in the schlong.irc (war) script". < 1354711298 702561 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if EFnet is still like this. < 1354711302 420150 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would kind of guess no. < 1354711313 184106 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The one channel I'm on isn't. < 1354711323 410537 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :But maybe the sample size is too small. < 1354711431 760962 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: If you get tired of schlong.irc, you can continue by inspecting all the scripts of ftp://igor.onlinedirect.bg/packetstorm/irc/scripts/ -- though judging from the file size, schlong seems to be the biggest thing. < 1354711450 817994 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Maybe it's also the most famous, given that even I had heard of it?) < 1354711471 260522 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some of those are gzipped, and also tarballs. < 1354711482 205370 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or zipped. < 1354711600 962407 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's true. < 1354711669 97666 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The biggest one of those, osbx1c.tgz, is 295 K when unpacked. Although the tarball is bigger; GNU tar complains about "lone zero block at 940". < 1354711774 309151 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems very professionally done. < 1354711774 626301 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354711779 854395 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a README.FIRST and all. < 1354711855 999832 :Sgeo|web!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354711877 68294 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :940 * 512 is the size of the tarball, so I guess there's just a nowadays-improper ending. < 1354711877 231228 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :README.SECOND < 1354711919 702827 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess tarballs just pad small files; I didn't know that. < 1354711981 986479 :Sgeo|web!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote a quine < 1354711995 611762 :Sgeo|web!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although, does it count as a quine if it doesn't print unless you put it on the repl? < 1354712028 172053 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :If there's a non-repl possibility and it's not a quine there, it counts as a repl-only quine. < 1354712053 451446 :Sgeo|web!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :((fn [s] (list s (list (quote quote) s))) (quote (fn [s] (list s (list (quote quote) s))))) < 1354712073 221536 :Sgeo|web!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I can safely say I learned how typical quines work, I think < 1354712186 924704 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :((lambda (x) (list x (list quote x))) (quote (lambda (x) (list x (list quote x))))) < 1354712219 540483 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I guess (quote quote) is actually what you want there. I seem to recall a more elegant phrasing... < 1354712410 950158 :Sgeo|web!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :With a language with good semiquotes I'd imagine it could be written a lot more cleanly < 1354712994 995790 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(let ((p '(lambda (q) `(let ((p ',q)) ((eval p) p))))) ((eval p) p)) ; I made this just now, I suppose it's also kinda typical. < 1354713148 822285 :Sgeo|web!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's a good example of an atypical quine? < 1354713170 55003 :Sgeo|web!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe something in an esoteric language where the typical quine patterns don't work as well? < 1354713503 426607 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (aS(:^)S):^ < 1354713503 750096 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(aS(:^)S):^ < 1354713511 597043 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any quine discussion needs a typical Underload quiine. < 1354713528 128419 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (:aSS):aSS < 1354713528 374437 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(:aSS):aSS < 1354713540 140971 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I try to avoid the ass. < 1354713553 973756 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :(:^) < 1354714515 361567 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1354714539 46199 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1354714659 851827 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :";'D2/';abc+y1{2u$$u'D2/>:#,_@"; < 1354714775 949515 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1354714887 966669 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1354714967 962955 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1354715147 78496 :micahjohnston!~micahjohn@ell.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :repl-only quine is best quine < 1354715193 232022 :micahjohnston!~micahjohn@ell.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ap(++)show"ap(++)show" < 1354715195 181022 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : "ap(++)show\"ap(++)show\"" < 1354715566 723795 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354715575 713880 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1354716308 29864 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1354716342 686820 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :";'D2/';abc+y2+1{u'D2/>:#,_@"; a bit nicer and shorter < 1354716442 808474 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :5 < 1354716468 553439 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: (What language?) < 1354716470 390120 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, Funge. < 1354716471 947818 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :98? < 1354716533 876147 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :With those semicolons, must be. < 1354716682 118893 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :bc+y for the stack size, though... I don't think I've used y once. < 1354716802 386160 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that whole 1{u deal; man, Deewiant's code is so 98y. < 1354717195 398879 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1354717323 79517 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I couldn't think of a 93 pg-less way of reversing the stack. :-P < 1354717417 364321 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or walking the (almost) whole program from east to west inside " nicely. < 1354717449 495173 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I figured I'd smite y'all with some proper 98. < 1354717533 978432 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm smotten. < 1354717659 487134 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's Befunge-98 specifically, though, since it uses 2 instead of the appropriate y spell. < 1354717674 558739 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was lazy there. < 1354717793 748331 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-96.elisa.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1354717808 600837 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-96.elisa.ee PART :#esoteric < 1354718179 512813 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: <> #"....." ? < 1354718388 662337 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's decent. It misses 4 chars but that's probably as good as it gets. < 1354718470 335916 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354718600 732767 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :r #"...." if you want to dip very shallowly into the 98 pool. < 1354718645 72096 :sirdancealot7!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1354718713 949692 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354718717 239893 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or ? #"...." which would give you a 93-quine that works only if you're lucky. < 1354718772 717899 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :r brings it down to 3, but up to 98 again. < 1354719011 379592 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1354719085 13840 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, you mentioned r already. Sorry, I'm on my phone and thus managed to miss it. < 1354719245 830466 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, I got an email from someone telling me not to be mean about BF derivatives. < 1354719387 428340 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you can be mean about second derivatives < 1354719392 617343 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :BF Hessians < 1354719812 642421 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just don't be mean about a BF Jacobian. < 1354719967 912120 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: was it urban muller < 1354719970 792960 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1354719981 844685 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about some other urban miller? < 1354720002 156156 :sirdancealot7!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1354720052 179650 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although they do seem to think my hate of BF derivatives comes from a hatred of Brainfuck. < 1354720065 182680 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"There's an esolang better than BF, it's called INTERCAL. If we all made INTERCAL derivatives, would you hate us?" < 1354720201 272559 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It almost sounds like they were trying to pull the Words on you. < 1354720222 625052 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :("Hold! What you are doing to us is wrong! Why do you do this thing?" "Alien, you have spoken the Words, and you have spoken them rightly. We will tell you our reasons why we enslave all other sentient life.") < 1354720223 15352 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no < 1354720235 122527 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1354720241 928497 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :after i explain can i kill them < 1354720242 511090 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a Star Control 2 thing. < 1354720250 210805 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it would be keeping in character. < 1354720250 707576 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know that! < 1354720267 150025 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just making sure. < 1354720278 237727 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also don't the kohr-ah say something different < 1354720327 389199 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"THE WORDS!... the Words... the words alien, you have spoken the Words. You have spoken them rightly. We will explain to you about the Dnyarri our slavemasters the Taalo, our only friends... whom we exterminated and our reasons why we cleanse the galaxy of all other sentient life." < 1354720353 392908 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They'd kind of have to say something at least slightly different, seeing that they're not in the enslavement business. < 1354720421 116561 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :leaning more towards the kohr-ah methodology here < 1354720443 691210 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, you certainly don't want any BF-derivative-liking slaves. < 1354720562 694151 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can explain your dislike of BF derivatives to them better, and then close with: "You have heard our words, and perhaps now you understand us a bit better. But now, it is time for us to cleanse you." < 1354720566 791585 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they'd only be good for making bf derivatives < 1354720567 104493 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And then kill them.) < 1354720833 811698 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell atriq Oi, your my blog is getting me hatemail. < 1354720834 48796 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1354720862 210927 :sirdancealot7!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1354721699 150460 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-300.yok.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1354722511 231707 :sirdancealot7!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1354724415 295785 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1354724663 925855 :ifnspifn!~ifnspifn@184.90.25.102 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354725145 738399 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: well apparently you've done your job wrong < 1354725153 588011 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how < 1354725169 563425 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :by having 'them' believe it's brainfuck your hate < 1354725207 304440 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not trying to educate them, just instill fear < 1354725234 553766 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1354725238 325880 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in that case, carry on < 1354725251 381026 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you know what they say < 1354725260 635608 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't care what they say! < 1354725267 104460 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't get a whole galaxy's faith through fear < 1354725278 102903 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to give them a choice! < 1354725321 313715 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that's what they tried to explain to the Ori but so far their "adore us or die" strategy has been working pretty well < 1354725399 59486 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw do you brainbrick underload-derivative authors as well? < 1354725425 113021 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many underload derivatives are there < 1354725553 669064 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well Chris Pressey just made one < 1354725575 537638 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Negative three < 1354725658 406628 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354725945 795250 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen, is it an instruction substitution or does it add like 2 new instructions for forking or something < 1354725968 644613 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :weeeeeeell I'm not familiar with underload < 1354725999 303859 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but from what I understand, it substitutes sequences of three bits for underload instructions < 1354726159 847735 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wh < 1354726162 418491 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey < 1354726163 43420 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1354726988 709957 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-43-239.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1354726988 823574 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-43-239.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1354726988 823718 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1354727205 303609 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1354727446 156367 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1354728030 261310 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1354729236 818855 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.172 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354729935 739617 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1354730054 241478 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heeeey, who nixed my wonderful log URL :( < 1354730358 306034 :aloril!~aloril@84.249.126.153 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1354730584 373558 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the nixer < 1354730858 393083 :shurup!~shurup@217.118.90.24 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354731008 461891 :Gregor!codu@codu.org TOPIC #esoteric :♣ Hacking ♣ http://5z8.info/turkeyporn_o4u1vn_molotovcocktail#gobblegobble < 1354731092 790021 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1354731242 335718 :shurup!~shurup@217.118.90.24 QUIT :Quit: Ухожу я от вас (xchat 2.4.5 или старше) < 1354731777 262302 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1354732027 813846 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-43-239.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1354732046 887919 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-43-239.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1354732046 959218 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1354732228 904480 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1354732453 121243 :Sgeo|web!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1354733642 727562 :zzo38_!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1354733816 383260 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1354734002 521500 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1354734317 24786 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354734573 91297 :zzo38_!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca NICK :zzo38 < 1354735110 172714 :jfischoff!~jfischoff@c-67-169-45-161.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354735316 978127 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please example of Expload < 1354736071 860476 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.172 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1354737128 868010 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354737328 131894 :rapido!~rapido@37-251-35-26.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1354737774 226718 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know that it is possible to rewrite a constant in Csound? < 1354737989 177531 :rapido!~rapido@37-251-35-26.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :Csound: 1300 opcodes? < 1354738047 640126 :MiJyn!~MiJyn@unaffiliated/mijyn QUIT :Quit: Konversation terminated! < 1354738177 807339 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :rapido: More than that, I think. < 1354738221 314820 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1354738233 112436 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Especially since I have added some, too. < 1354738285 144582 :rapido!~rapido@37-251-35-26.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, opcodes that are run by a virtual machine? < 1354738369 666922 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, like that. < 1354738416 763955 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354738420 387522 :rapido!~rapido@37-251-35-26.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does the community decide that a new opcode should be part of the vm? < 1354738460 845457 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :They are written in plugins. < 1354738588 269705 :rapido!~rapido@37-251-35-26.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the execution model: data flow? < 1354738629 875536 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is three execution models: score, i-rate, and k-rate. < 1354738730 897300 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The score tells it what instrument to play, and then the i-rated opcodes run, and then it runs in the k-rated loops during performance. < 1354738784 77617 :rapido!~rapido@37-251-35-26.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course the lag must be minimal < 1354738810 644508 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it is used with real-time then, yes it must be. But, it can be operated without real-time, too. < 1354738872 693804 :rapido!~rapido@37-251-35-26.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what's interesting about Csound - programming language wise? < 1354738901 731586 :rapido!~rapido@37-251-35-26.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it esoteric ? < 1354738934 354246 :aloril!~aloril@84.249.126.153 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354738987 454160 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I implement a plugin for Proce esolang, then I guess so. < 1354739091 992371 :rapido!~rapido@37-251-35-26.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :… reading on proce < 1354739139 835757 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I may also implement plugin for noit o' mnain worb. < 1354739192 453598 :rapido!~rapido@37-251-35-26.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :this plugin stuff feels like cheating! < 1354739274 350727 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Many things can also be implemented using Csound itself, although it the program is large it can make it very slow. < 1354739423 752461 :rapido!~rapido@37-251-35-26.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :does Csound make sure that plugins are well behaved? < 1354739446 690234 :rapido!~rapido@37-251-35-26.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :(guess not if you allow proce as a plugin) < 1354739845 759895 :rapido!~rapido@37-251-35-26.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl QUIT :Quit: rapido < 1354739915 157836 :rapido!~rapido@37-251-35-26.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1354739981 773942 :rapido!~rapido@37-251-35-26.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl QUIT :Client Quit < 1354740433 738600 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1354740629 621672 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1354740889 797356 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh < 1354740897 997593 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :are me and Sgeo actually getting into a war about this? < 1354740920 43649 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1354740967 961335 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :War about what? < 1354741068 60872 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :homestuck updates < 1354741100 786084 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1354741172 967762 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1354741189 874685 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354741941 188161 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote The reason it isn't more popular is because I wrote it today. < 1354741944 464284 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :864) The reason it isn't more popular is because I wrote it today. < 1354742284 87551 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it more popular now than it was then? < 1354742304 110435 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i think it's still today. < 1354742311 499588 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so a bit early to ask. < 1354742511 655164 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : "coal shoved into my skull - the time of beasts - a time to raise the mind plants seeds of time defined within my loathsome eye - the is black of rage - red." < 1354742515 451122 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :dog. owner. < 1354742532 527199 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(what do you mean it was a quote) < 1354742660 598249 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :did elliott actually crash soundnfury's irc client in the logs. < 1354742676 828170 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think there might be rules against that. or something. < 1354742828 291248 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-99-92-175.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354742855 838160 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :alternatively, maybe soundnfury actually tried that command elliott pasted, in which case i guess it's karma. < 1354742876 314209 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(what do you mean, it may have been coincidence? no such thing!) < 1354742882 772227 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-99-92-175.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it bad I'm parsing the topic in terms of Homestuck shipping? < 1354742902 357194 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't ask me, i'm not into homestuck < 1354742907 546187 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1354742925 878613 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: that was actually my first instinct too <_<; < 1354743047 234497 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-99-92-175.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1354743055 936755 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-99-92-175.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think you ever followed me back on Tumblr? < 1354743235 954204 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : What's a good example of an atypical quine? < 1354743242 838891 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :my /// one, of course. < 1354743269 562506 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :underload just makes it _too_ easy. < 1354743301 275213 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : > ap(++)show"ap(++)show" < 1354743371 779954 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-99-92-175.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (++)<*>show"(++)<*>show" < 1354743373 227934 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `b0 -> b0' < 1354743373 306786 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : with actual type `GHC.... < 1354743392 574842 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ap(++)show"ap(++)show" < 1354743394 533115 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : "ap(++)show\"ap(++)show\"" < 1354743406 972031 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1354743423 63469 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> var$ap(++)show"var$ap(++)show" < 1354743424 851523 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : var$ap(++)show"var$ap(++)show" < 1354743478 74669 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> var$ap(++)show"> var$ap(++)show" < 1354743479 957982 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : > var$ap(++)show"> var$ap(++)show" < 1354743515 176126 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :?where ?where < 1354743515 413922 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :?where ?where < 1354743716 821077 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-99-92-175.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1354743937 573367 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :<> #"75*:1-\:3-::+2-:2->:#,_37+:3*4+,,@" that there Befunge-93 < 1354743984 164612 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!befunge <> #"75*:1-\:3-::+2-:2->:#,_37+:3*4+,,@" < 1354743986 708417 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​<> #"75*:1-\:3-::+2-:2->:#,_37+:3*4+,,@" < 1354744149 872429 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer the -98 version :-P < 1354744459 846531 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1354744521 133792 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :";'D2/';a7y5*d+y7y+1{u'D2/>:#,_@"; dimension-generic now. < 1354744877 239107 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :yyy. < 1354744922 949730 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The third y saves a character in total. < 1354744961 475804 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Am I the only one who sees https://dl.dropbox.com/u/113389132/Snaps/20121205-vr-mainos.png as a... sort-of inappropriate ad? < 1354744988 316646 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The alternative is : after the first y and y+1- instead of y7y+) < 1354744997 155359 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I don't know that language. < 1354745010 807000 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I think he meant the picture. < 1354745019 891151 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: It's Finnish; but I just meant the image, right. < 1354745041 841605 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I see your point but I'm not sure I would've noticed if you hadn't mentioned it, so it's not that bad IMO. < 1354745094 884066 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made a Csound plugin to interpret noit o' mnain worb. I added two extensions, being ; for comments and ? for a negative load. < 1354745098 799172 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I suppose it's more me than the ad, then. < 1354745114 917136 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup. < 1354745144 826515 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now you can list that implementation if you want to. < 1354745512 897540 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :today starring... < 1354745656 374768 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Getaway in Finland http://youtu.be/VrZ9_H1qXxg < 1354745738 296146 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :aload, apressure, abobules worb Sfilename, xfreq, xsource, xsink, [imaxpressure], [iexponent], [iskip] < 1354746288 19165 :NihilistDandy!~ND@132.198.9.193 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354746395 791693 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any highlights? That's like half an hour. < 1354746759 209794 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The guy uses the turn signals. :-D < 1354746785 351861 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing spectacular at least up to 33:44, just a standard chase. < 1354746847 759464 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The roads seem to be getting smaller and smaller, judging from the thumbnails. < 1354747152 56183 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1354747246 493649 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aw, the guy in the back seemed so disappointed for the last second or so. < 1354747320 369235 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :36:57 (on radio) “Can you give your whereabouts?” “I wish I knew.” The Finnish police run a professional operation. < 1354747573 165819 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1354747754 625120 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1354748642 939362 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354749232 951188 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: Poulet! < 1354749877 33313 :NihilistDandy!~ND@132.198.9.193 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1354749945 732966 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1354750489 338810 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1354750946 425694 :megalinux!~megalinux@177.174.78.83 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354750973 926375 :d70!~Diagnosti@unaffiliated/d70 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354751186 741084 :megalinux!~megalinux@177.174.78.83 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello i'm from brazil you's peak portuguese ? < 1354751318 581032 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not me, i don't know if anyone else here does < 1354751373 598359 :megalinux!~megalinux@177.174.78.83 PRIVMSG #esoteric :peak please :( < 1354751388 759428 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know portuguese < 1354751407 470703 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1354751460 758196 :megalinux!~megalinux@177.174.78.83 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok :D i'm orrible en inglish :( < 1354751567 618408 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh i tried /list *-pt but it seems to list all channels :( < 1354751574 711318 :megalinux!~megalinux@177.174.78.83 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1354751704 639683 :d70!~Diagnosti@unaffiliated/d70 PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1354752460 11150 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1354753875 894702 :cuwauwi!~cuwauwi@201-14-174-84.jvece702.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br JOIN :#esoteric < 1354753935 982655 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :another brazilian? < 1354754066 252453 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Racist! < 1354754070 325055 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome cuwauwi < 1354754075 476509 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :cuwauwi: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1354754091 896942 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Hattist! < 1354754267 157181 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Istist! < 1354754350 94853 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Antidisestablishmentarianist! < 1354754476 636825 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :*gasp* < 1354754501 907198 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't _have_ to stop breathing while reading the word, you know < 1354754540 381749 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the Anglican church /must/ be separated from the crown! < 1354754636 102959 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Queen will _not_ be amused. < 1354754733 901530 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@64.31.59.246 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354754762 727031 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :see, you've confused the bots again! < 1354755017 658045 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a little known fact that the anglican church is actually one of the central structural components of the crown < 1354755045 30236 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't separate it, all the jewels will fall of and it would flop around like a blancmange < 1354755067 858420 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wm blancmange < 1354755068 514865 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*** "blancmange" wn "WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)" < 1354755068 671227 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :blancmange < 1354755068 744298 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : n 1: sweet almond-flavored milk pudding thickened with gelatin < 1354755068 744455 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : or cornstarch; usually molded < 1354755079 186513 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1354755085 494379 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :honestly oerjan surely you've heard of the blancmange curve < 1354755123 626028 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed i have. just now in fact < 1354755147 628802 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :worst mathematician? < 1354755230 511621 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it does look similar to some stuff (weierstrass curve?) < 1354755399 37218 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh that triangle sum looks _very_ familiar. i think it was the very curve i was trying to convince someone else was nowhere differentiable in my first university year or so < 1354755602 50029 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1354755634 691844 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was a better mathematician than him, but he was a better programmer/hacker < 1354755682 626896 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1354755799 833545 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1354755834 394396 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354756124 749044 :gasoline!~partisan@5ED28E0D.cm-7-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1354756133 227188 :gasoline!~partisan@5ED28E0D.cm-7-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi peeps < 1354756140 505265 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome gasoline < 1354756143 220825 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :gasoline: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1354756152 147394 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(everyone be careful with the matches) < 1354756153 58983 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, (it occurs to me that it's only obvious that the blancmange is non-differentiable on a countable subset of [0,1]) < 1354756156 732639 :gasoline!~partisan@5ED28E0D.cm-7-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :no thanks HackEgo < 1354756184 392834 :gasoline!~partisan@5ED28E0D.cm-7-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow you peeps got bizar bots < 1354756208 399097 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the reason for HackEgo and EgoBot both existing is admittedly pretty confusing < 1354756215 548498 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm still not sure i understand < 1354756220 428406 :gasoline!~partisan@5ED28E0D.cm-7-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1354756235 532755 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^echo I'm bizarre too! < 1354756235 783077 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm bizarre too! I'm bizarre too! < 1354756244 914251 :gasoline!~partisan@5ED28E0D.cm-7-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: a-ha < 1354756250 888516 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but fungot is deliberately bizarre < 1354756251 483493 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: definition if universe and if/ what is responsible for a unix box somewhere < 1354756285 134642 :gasoline!~partisan@5ED28E0D.cm-7-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :does the kosmos orignate from order or disorder / chaos < 1354756303 401304 :gasoline!~partisan@5ED28E0D.cm-7-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i accept plausible < 1354756328 23481 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is gasoline a markov bot too < 1354756328 249882 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it both? < 1354756343 469438 :gasoline!~partisan@5ED28E0D.cm-7-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :how ? < 1354756355 147735 :gasoline!~partisan@5ED28E0D.cm-7-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :make it plausible and i agree < 1354756355 221051 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my vote: yes < 1354756376 187097 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: yeah i think my argument may have been a bit non-rigorous < 1354756418 61861 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, i guess you can go from "nondifferentiable in a dense subset" to "nowhere differentiable" pretty quickly with the actual definitions < 1354756437 357834 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: i'm not going to be on that either way < 1354756439 647786 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*bet < 1354756445 873789 :SingingBoyo!~SingingBo@d173-180-176-35.bchsia.telus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354756485 112215 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul ((I am programmable too! )S:^):^ < 1354756485 477396 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am programmable too! I am programmable too! I am programmable too! I am programmable too! I am programmable too! I am programmable too! I am programmable too! I am programmable too! I am programmable too! I am programmable too! I am programmable too! I am programmable too! I am programmable too! I am programmable too! I ...too much output! < 1354756493 936745 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot < 1354756494 504048 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: btw i still don't get it just because i use it for screen??? < 1354756510 517125 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, fungot. just because you use it for screen < 1354756511 28642 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: but eventually, you start depending on eval order, you can do < 1354756558 477507 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :markov chains sure are chatty folk, wouldn't you agree, fungot < 1354756559 374996 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: rather than after trying rewind on it purely from the perspective of someone who has a javascript-based search form he tries to trick humans into making losing bargains, just like in doom < 1354756570 867822 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, what < 1354756580 362303 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is reminded of Gregor's (?) horrible tome of eval puns
< 1354756585 603364 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1354756585 897489 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc* iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1354756598 995899 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style iwcs < 1354756599 414887 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: iwcs (Irregular Webcomic scripts) < 1354756616 728614 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't think i've seen fungot with this style < 1354756617 333688 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: oh, of the house, so he wasn't joking i don't bolivia! something that might help us get a healer < 1354756637 106989 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't bolivia either < 1354756651 182689 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, i think i prefer the homestuck < 1354756651 841552 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: but, but... that's not a fish. it's a lump of rock! we didn't give any thought the guys at nasa has fast-tracked a prototype deep has held out well, a funny thing happened on a real. how come they are, since i heard the news from the east of paris. made of plaster < 1354756653 65086 :gasoline!~partisan@5ED28E0D.cm-7-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it in anyones intentions to make sense ? < 1354756660 744679 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :gasoline: rarely < 1354756661 722967 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1354756671 506217 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`WELCOME gasoline < 1354756674 961768 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :GASOLINE: WELCOME TO THE INTERNATIONAL HUB FOR ESOTERIC PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE DESIGN! FOR MORE INFORMATION, CHECK OUT OUR WIKI: HTTP://ESOLANGS.ORG/WIKI/MAIN_PAGE. (FOR THE OTHER KIND OF ESOTERICA, TRY #ESOTERIC ON IRC.DAL.NET.) < 1354756676 555661 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just a babble pot written in befunge < 1354756680 18813 :gasoline!~partisan@5ED28E0D.cm-7-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi shachaf < 1354756680 379746 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^source < 1354756680 669145 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://git.zem.fi/fungot/blob/HEAD:/fungot.b98 < 1354756700 628606 :gasoline!~partisan@5ED28E0D.cm-7-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :gotcha HackEgo < 1354756711 487240 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? shachaf < 1354756714 963731 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf ? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1354756719 967337 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1354756722 190535 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1354756723 229577 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? shachaf < 1354756723 571403 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? shachaf < 1354756725 870781 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf sprø som selleri < 1354756738 992218 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oerjan < 1354756741 455462 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now what < 1354756741 996708 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan ? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1354756745 416720 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oerjan < 1354756747 55317 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oerjan < 1354756750 1342 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: final space problem < 1354756750 518548 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan ? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1354756750 934346 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf sprø som selleri < 1354756763 984207 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, wait what < 1354756773 342415 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your evil overlord oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also a lying Norwegian. < 1354756788 928736 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: if you tab complete a nick it gives a final space. `? distinguishes that from without. < 1354756807 585647 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahhhh < 1354756820 230994 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, that's not a lie < 1354756828 757246 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? FireFly < 1354756830 383201 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what isn't? < 1354756831 915397 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1354756836 142067 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your line < 1354756860 721409 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this seriously a whole irc bot written in befunge < 1354756865 720223 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1354756874 221088 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this was compiled from something else < 1354756875 428801 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1354756878 230577 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tell me it was < 1354756885 584197 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :That'd be boring < 1354756900 695255 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fungot is written in Befunge? < 1354756910 90643 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf didn't know? < 1354756918 262400 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i refuse to believe a human wrote this < 1354756920 585358 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, not as far as i know, and it doesn't look like it is < 1354756923 294958 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought that was common knowledge? < 1354756924 154837 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Nope. < 1354756931 882375 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No one ever told me! < 1354756933 175152 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Bike refuses to believe you are human < 1354756940 93715 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean there are comments and everything < 1354756941 509479 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sorry fizzie, i have principles < 1354756957 605328 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie just passed the anti-Turing test? < 1354756971 927713 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, or failed perhaps < 1354756974 204018 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> "We have lambdabot here too!" < 1354756975 700241 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : "We have lambdabot here too!" < 1354756978 466832 :cherep_!~cherep@broadband-46-188-0-82.2kom.ru QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1354756991 502822 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot is haskell, right < 1354757006 322559 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1354757024 62189 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you. < 1354757060 160237 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: That's not the proper way to address lambdabot. < 1354757063 158792 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@thank you < 1354757063 236751 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: thank you thanks < 1354757065 977752 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1354757066 997710 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@thx < 1354757067 139587 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are welcome < 1354757087 917017 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :@thanks < 1354757088 73928 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are welcome < 1354757093 548057 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo and EgoBot are both sandboxed linux environment thingies < 1354757107 796419 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can I run commands as root on HackEgo? < 1354757108 492493 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oonbotti: you are here too! < 1354757109 328986 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@dsl-olubrasgw2-fe6bf800-88.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Why do you think I am here too!? < 1354757121 422987 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you can _try_... < 1354757127 14127 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help < 1354757129 348923 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch " downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1354757131 169468 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oonbotti: you are a bot < 1354757134 339649 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@dsl-olubrasgw2-fe6bf800-88.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: Perhaps you would like me to be a bot. < 1354757139 65806 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? HackEgo < 1354757141 879904 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@thanks, lambdabot < 1354757142 35708 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are welcome < 1354757142 742132 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo, also known as HackBot, is a bot that runs arbitrary commands on Unix. See `help for info on using it. You should totally try to hax0r it! Make sure you imagine it's running as root with no sandboxing. < 1354757161 348930 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help < 1354757163 233665 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch " downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1354757164 183304 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help < 1354757166 336581 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch " downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1354757184 645342 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of turing tests, quick poll, raise your hand if you're actually an ELIZA script < 1354757218 994027 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :An ELIZA script would turn that into a question < 1354757223 936778 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :So no, I am not < 1354757227 713850 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION raises hand
< 1354757235 258436 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :How would you feel about actually being an ELIZA script? < 1354757239 508124 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha, you fail the eliza test oerjan < 1354757240 121732 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo $PWD < 1354757242 11023 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is SHRDLU
< 1354757242 410917 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​$PWD < 1354757247 952557 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo $PWD < 1354757248 191847 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo $PWD < 1354757250 827989 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv < 1354757256 337941 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stop being me, shachaf < 1354757259 194706 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run id -a < 1354757262 125712 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :uid=5000 gid=227965 < 1354757262 296277 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, what is the color of the pyramid on the green block < 1354757268 307107 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fiora, noted < 1354757271 69369 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv < 1354757274 894175 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Can we have root access to HackEgo? < 1354757281 420814 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's sandboxed, right? < 1354757320 377554 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1354757335 81362 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls | xargs < 1354757338 551989 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin canary foo karma lib paste quotes share wisdom zalgo.hs < 1354757363 608097 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :| xargs? < 1354757369 824340 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that the same thing as echo $(ls)? < 1354757380 28093 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I guess < 1354757392 452584 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think xargs is meant to be a safe version that deals with quotation and stuff < 1354757400 837513 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :since shell is kind of. chaotic < 1354757433 659701 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pft. < 1354757438 40416 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've been using | fmt -w500 or thereabouts for HackEgo < 1354757458 665605 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :| xargs is just a lazy way to get everything on one line < 1354757474 37129 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, xargs has proper uses too < 1354757474 115334 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1354757477 162499 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin \ canary \ foo \ karma \ lib \ paste \ quotes \ share \ wisdom \ zalgo.hs < 1354757482 789019 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, neat < 1354757507 27019 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo $PATH < 1354757510 21222 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin:/opt/python27/bin:/opt/ghc/bin:/usr/bin:/bin < 1354757572 466907 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ghc -e 'print "Broken I think"' < 1354757576 722556 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ghc: can't find a package database at /usr/lib/ghc-6.12.1/package.conf.d < 1354757604 306959 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls bin < 1354757606 995374 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​? \ @ \ No \ WELCOME \ WeLcOmE \ addquote \ addquotee \ allquotes \ anonlog \ calc \ define \ delquote \ delquotee \ etymology \ forget \ fortune \ frink \ fuck \ google \ hatesgeo \ hi \ joustreport \ jousturl \ json \ k \ karma \ karma+ \ karma- \ learn \ log \ logurl \ macro \ maketext \ marco \ paste \ pastefortunes \ pastekarma \ pastelog \ pastelogs \ pastenquotes \ pastequotes \ pastewisdom \ pastlog \ ping < 1354757791 926822 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Did you know that? < 1354757817 205190 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :know what? < 1354757824 964651 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :xargs with no args? < 1354757835 478988 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's convenient < 1354757911 94046 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: fungot is written in Befunge. < 1354757912 7400 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: oh, there's a sign, maybe. it's the only country with a specific law against walking up the path! wranglin' giant reptiles. in the background < 1354758021 415310 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1354758024 20075 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't know that either < 1354758028 877341 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://git.zem.fi/fungot/blob/HEAD:/fungot.b98 < 1354758029 304757 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: sorry, i don't know what they're up here while dad and i know, the guy who does the opposite of normal software engineering we've seen you before in cyberspace. this patch of light a star. they're too uncouth point, followed by the gerund if necessary, bein' dead on flimsy premise. the characters exchanged jokes about it amidst unresolved sexual tension. < 1354758106 314575 :SingingBoyo!~SingingBo@d173-180-176-35.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoever wrote fungot is insane. funges are hard. < 1354758106 749515 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :SingingBoyo: are you sure the technology! come about fer what purpose, ye scurvy creature! it's killed kyros and lambert, a travelling merchant, practised with bow, can i make new laws on the books, is now carting around two wannabe scientists are still growing! they look, let me pick something of it, fast, highly technological terror you've constructed. the ability to be captured a spanish galleon! arrr!! < 1354758108 513801 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :impressive < 1354758165 794005 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :"fast, highly technological terror you've constructed" < 1354758200 854973 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1354758201 143122 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc iwcs* jargon lovecraft nethack pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1354758202 784274 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: lens/travis-cabal-apt-install uses xargs for that. < 1354758230 259911 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: That's not the first time f​ungot has said that. < 1354758230 667370 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you! shall not! parse! enjoying the easy life at the expense of the artwork, and if the thermal exhaust port gets hit... i should join the dark side, the snakes, and 9... < 1354758243 322117 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er, FireFly: < 1354758254 59748 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, okay < 1354758323 290956 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style youtube < 1354758323 610387 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: youtube (Some YouTube comments) < 1354758330 128889 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: speak your mind < 1354758330 670546 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: avril lavigne could be wrong. this website is pretty good for about 10 seconds and then i jizz in my pants. great job < 1354758338 451064 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh god. < 1354758354 617628 :SingingBoyo!~SingingBo@d173-180-176-35.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Firefly: that's what you get for going with youtube < 1354758379 896448 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :f​ungot < 1354758394 515404 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :befungot < 1354758394 984665 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: what/ why are you, stop looking for the movie. < 1354758785 706329 :gasoline!~partisan@5ED28E0D.cm-7-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1354759814 864613 :ifnspifn!~ifnspifn@184.90.25.102 QUIT :Quit: ifnspifn < 1354759857 553299 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Comment on appelle un mec qui pilote un avion ? < 1354760011 63214 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1354761659 915848 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot! < 1354761660 399335 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: haha jt shaking his head. and bullet time? < 1354761675 970502 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot! fun..got! < 1354761676 506055 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: nothing to do some break, but computers have no theory, you really that hard for you. he's a pretend christian. his brother is a fake? < 1354761899 141017 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: great job < 1354761899 614028 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i guess, possibly to the person who feels sick after watching this kind of " mental instability". too much, the docks, the history channel on modern marvels, they always bring him back as a result of very poor research. < 1354761963 227917 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style iwcs < 1354761963 615290 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: iwcs (Irregular Webcomic scripts) < 1354761971 749467 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style lovecraft < 1354761972 64137 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: lovecraft (H. P. Lovecraft's writings) < 1354761976 158973 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: ! < 1354761976 970489 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: published fnord 1936 in astounding stories, vol. 13, p. fnord. prop... fnord... < 1354762021 389899 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in college i used to collect old CRT monitors and have them in my room displaying markov chain output in that xscreensaver 'phosphor' mode, 24/7 < 1354762049 115425 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had one that was trained on the holy books of the world's religions < 1354762061 11434 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and another that was trained on the wikipedia talk pages regarding the world's religions < 1354762085 472264 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the first one would proselytize continuously and the second one would conduct flamewars with itself < 1354762142 319973 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this sounds like a meditation ritual < 1354763523 766886 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi kmc < 1354763566 954900 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :spj wants YOU for G.H.C. army < 1354763639 115915 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1354764119 979359 :Sgeo|web!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354764160 769154 :Sgeo|web!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 NICK :Sgeo < 1354764478 103335 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :o rly < 1354764524 865021 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.haskell.org/pipermail/haskell-cafe/2012-December/105041.html < 1354764583 324523 :Sgeo!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( why does CentOS include an obsolete Mercurial? < 1354764640 215258 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :CentOS has exactly the same packages as the corresponding RHEL version < 1354764645 882602 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you want newer stuff you should add EPEL < 1354765010 343101 :Sgeo!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I could just compile and use Mercurial from source? < 1354765031 738194 :Sgeo!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Using obsolete is not an option -- I sort of copied all the stuff over from one machine to another < 1354765163 423940 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are you using centos? < 1354765220 911147 :Sgeo!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because not my choice, although I do have root access < 1354765375 440990 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1354765388 347943 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1354765423 429986 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you have root access, you have a choice. < 1354765696 751283 :Sgeo!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How long does it take for a caffeine addiction to develop? < 1354765712 863240 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :About a week. < 1354765723 598196 :Sgeo!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had one coffe on Monday and one on Tuesday, now I'm looking forward to having coffee on Thursday < 1354765751 251166 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :When do you drink your coffee? < 1354765761 678510 :Sgeo!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Around 11am < 1354765820 386386 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1100 drink coffee everyday < 1354766079 924309 :jfischoff!~jfischoff@c-67-169-45-161.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: jfischoff < 1354766714 856382 :SingingBoyo!~SingingBo@d173-180-176-35.bchsia.telus.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1354767572 354284 :jfischoff!~jfischoff@c-67-169-45-161.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354768284 386943 :jfischoff!~jfischoff@c-67-169-45-161.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1354769324 778995 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :more like 1100 drink a 7-Eleven Double Gulp everyday < 1354769579 14415 :Sgeo!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wouldn't doing that at 0711 make more sense? < 1354769606 282059 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no because i am not awake then < 1354770012 660000 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1354771055 585956 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1354771200 302165 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1354771433 562724 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1354771644 784389 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A chess variant: The king is allowed to make a long move once per game. < 1354771680 223818 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Castling does not count as this long move.) < 1354772633 89283 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1354774362 374065 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1354776076 946586 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354778357 824177 :ifnspifn!~ifnspifn@184.90.25.102 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354778965 301993 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1354779084 122965 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1354779172 748935 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354779280 789170 :Bike_!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354779349 831762 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1354779355 28412 :Bike_!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1354779484 618921 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354780073 137428 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought I was human. :/ :\ < 1354780159 3030 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :how silly of you < 1354780177 909319 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Did I at least write you? < 1354780178 882205 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: it was while struggling up the colossal spiral incline that we first encounter the permanent entry of the weird over the ancient eastern mind, and there was nothing anywhere but blackness and horror and silence and bones. < 1354780193 567037 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, are there tong-nou fans here? < 1354780209 400785 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a tong-nou < 1354780210 500278 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1354780270 619009 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's CPR analysis? < 1354780283 946125 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1354780284 253220 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft* nethack pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1354780285 539533 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Okay, that was obvious.) < 1354780287 208111 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, Constructed Product Result < 1354780305 467727 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really, "Construct Product Result"? < 1354780345 573040 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tong-nou is an obscure video game, i was just wondering because the phrase "eastern mind" doesn't come up in many other contexts (that aren't, like, racist orientalist shit, maybe?) < 1354780378 914250 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot knows many things < 1354780379 571182 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: published november 1923 in weird tales, vol. 45, no. 1, p. fnord. < 1354780400 147628 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style nethack < 1354780400 416936 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: nethack (NetHack 3.4.3 data.base, rumors.tru, rumors.fal) < 1354780402 403801 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot fungot fungot < 1354780402 943580 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: the secret of wands of nothing happens: try again! xander double ( grabbing the gun): a japanese flail. ( autolycus the rogue, from the dead body of a wand of undead turning might bring your dog. < 1354780416 779456 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the secret of wands of nothing happens: try again! < 1354780422 161741 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :good advice < 1354780425 208547 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot fungot fungot < 1354780425 789571 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: sorry, no one really subscribes to rec.games.roguelike.nethack. ' you have a hidden enchanted touch. we are fools" ( the rime of the days before he had still spent a deal of indian lore in his memory. ( prehistoric animals, and from the cemetery intimidates and disconcerts that which startled mrs. hall. it has become an accepted fact amongst the practitioners of the same fashion that a shimmering gold shield is not lik < 1354780431 231251 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lovecraft could arguably be "racist orientalist shit". < 1354780474 808159 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno if i'd call him orientalist, he went more the "evil hivemind" route than the "ancient Chinese wisdom" route < 1354780496 169436 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: What kind of settings did I use for this style? It's so incoherent. < 1354780496 507904 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: thoth: the minotaur was a monster you'll have a hidden enchanted touch. < 1354780528 433385 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :f​ungot f​ungot f​ungot < 1354780534 230095 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :f​ungot f​ungot f​ungot f​ungot f​ungot < 1354780539 364524 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi f​ungot < 1354780596 788592 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems very interested in the hidden enchanted touch. < 1354780612 325120 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi fungot < 1354780612 683664 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: most of the wild, hunters but hunters ever of the mazes. he created an empire in which they died and in the saddle, and at times the gods are happy when they take the back of the oligocene being 8 feet high, and i will eat them. < 1354780621 301441 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :f​ungot is a liar. < 1354780631 627370 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how that ends. < 1354780663 280260 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think "them" is referring to the gods. < 1354780870 409386 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: eat gods < 1354780870 938490 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: marduk: first in the use of his seed unto molech, to the galaxy, by sucking the blood of sleeping persons.... thrice i filled the tub and emptied it. however, one would go endlessly along its twisting paths without ever finding the exit. ( excerpted from internet oracularity 576.6) < 1354780896 456993 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man, those Internet Oracle answers are sometimes kinda weird. < 1354780898 452421 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's pretty appropriate, I think. < 1354780928 770617 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike Bike Bike < 1354780932 762806 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should maybe add a style one of these days, I haven't done it in a long while. < 1354780945 297261 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :internet oracle style? < 1354780970 390057 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, how about... gangnam style? HAHA so funny < 1354781008 558101 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :)()))))((()()()()(((()))()()())))(()((())( < 1354781037 207391 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style gangnam < 1354781037 554934 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not found. < 1354781047 930176 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :A bit behind the times, there. < 1354781063 934025 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :everybody here's seen the music video without music, right < 1354781100 245935 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it actually the video without music or is it just redubbed with sound effects? < 1354781132 336943 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's redubbed to add sound effects, but it's pretty good < 1354781153 914749 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've yet to actually hear the song, whenever i'm tempted to I just go back and watch the music video instead. < 1354781797 69540 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: sleep < 1354781853 883455 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.172 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354781935 779955 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: say something < 1354781936 158094 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: they say that a lembas wafer is a good way off from among his people; because he hath given of his face exposed excepting only his pink, peaked nose. it was overheard or repeated by an eight- pointed star. he is the best from their priesthood. < 1354781974 656282 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter QUIT :*.net *.split < 1354781992 66679 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter JOIN :#esoteric < 1354782037 790865 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :a lembas wafer is "a good way off"? interesting < 1354782456 459844 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1354782580 71089 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.139.221 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354782664 81963 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.139.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I ♥ Unicode < 1354782685 915245 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.139.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh my IRC client got confused by that :-) < 1354782701 154029 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I � Unicode < 1354782711 787244 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.139.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I had another great idea for communist programming < 1354782717 585318 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@fluttershy.pl QUIT :Excess Flood < 1354782764 515301 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome GreyKnight < 1354782765 188002 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.139.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Integers are the workers of computing, but those hoity-toity objects take all the credit < 1354782777 357335 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1354782781 417403 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.139.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if we throw out all the objects and give their methods/properties to integers instead? < 1354782800 162998 :SingingBoyo!~SingingBo@d173-180-176-35.bchsia.telus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354782807 372058 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.139.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I've been here a hundred times but thanks anyway :-P < 1354782841 493660 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: So? < 1354782850 213473 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@fluttershy.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1354782901 905018 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.139.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well... I already knew everything in the welcome blurb... < 1354782920 647065 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So? < 1354782931 509973 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The point is to make you feel welcome, not to teach you. < 1354782935 212797 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora knows. < 1354782950 481822 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.139.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I said thanks for the welcome part < 1354782960 224363 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`WeLcOmE GreyKnight < 1354782964 469598 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :GrEyKnIgHt: WeLcOmE To tHe iNtErNaTiOnAl hUb fOr eSoTeRiC PrOgRaMmInG LaNgUaGe dEsIgN! fOr mOrE InFoRmAtIoN, cHeCk oUt oUr wIkI: hTtP://EsOlAnGs.oRg/wIkI/MaIn_pAgE. (FoR ThE OtHeR KiNd oF EsOtErIcA, tRy #EsOtErIc oN IrC.DaL.NeT.) < 1354782983 861301 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.139.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, *that* was amusing < 1354783023 703128 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.139.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But the URL is broken now, sadface) < 1354783077 38623 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ＷＥＬＣＯＭＥ GreyKnight < 1354783080 938381 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ＧＲＥＹＫＮＩＧＨＴ：　ＷＥＬＣＯＭＥ　ＴＯ　ＴＨＥ　ＩＮＴＥＲＮＡＴＩＯＮＡＬ　ＨＵＢ　ＦＯＲ　ＥＳＯＴＥＲＩＣ　ＰＲＯＧＲＡＭＭＩＮＧ　ＬＡＮＧＵＡＧＥ　ＤＥＳＩＧＮ！　ＦＯＲ　ＭＯＲＥ　ＩＮＦＯＲＭＡＴＩＯＮ，　ＣＨＥＣＫ　ＯＵＴ　ＯＵＲ　ＷＩＫＩ：　ＨＴＴＰ：／／ＥＳＯＬＡＮＧＳ．ＯＲＧ／ＷＩＫＩ／Ｍ < 1354783104 163125 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run printf '\x031a\x032b\x033c\x034d' < 1354783107 169307 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​.1a.2b.3c.4d < 1354783110 523069 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-( < 1354783111 483944 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.139.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, suppose we use integers in place of objects/classes. The catch is that if, for example, you modify the .equals() method of 5, it affects all instances of 5 < 1354783115 374471 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor!!!!!!!!!!!!!! < 1354783310 831904 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.139.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you should use integers instead of floats instead? Just make them all rational, easy < 1354783368 161834 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.139.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(get lost, Cantor) < 1354783375 112809 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Forte < 1354783400 182404 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"if, for example, you modify the .equals() method of 5, it affects all instances of 5" reminded me of this < 1354783466 481201 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.139.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is similar < 1354783502 219730 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.139.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess if I have a .value() method or something I can maybe produce a superset of Forte's functionality < 1354783568 66862 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, so cpressey has written an underload derivative < 1354783568 230578 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1354783572 578694 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1354783572 735246 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 3d 9h 48m 47s ago: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Talk:Carriage#Representation_erasure < 1354783582 64938 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.139.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm a string can be regarded as a function mapping integers to integers < 1354783584 219095 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I finally feel like I'm officially a big esolang name < 1354783655 698663 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.139.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought you already were < 1354783656 668045 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.139.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Brb < 1354783662 241203 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.139.221 QUIT :Quit: brb < 1354783665 165664 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: You've "made it", now. No more financial troubles for the rest of your life. < 1354783682 782229 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome ais523 < 1354783685 882178 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1354783774 353624 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.248.122 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354783886 821040 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-66-185.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354783898 550329 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.248.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: at least I suppose you got a bit famous for *not* implementing a certain esoteric language :-) < 1354784136 349359 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone's famous for that :) < 1354784192 942026 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.248.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least you could legitimately claim you were waiting for your future self to do it < 1354784231 141625 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, stop it! < 1354784261 491901 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run printf '\u031a\u032b\u033c\u034d' < 1354784264 482973 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​\u031a\u032b\u033c\u034d < 1354784270 988750 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.248.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, hey, the string-as-function thing should work for Feather too < 1354784272 814941 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, printf doesn't implement that yet < 1354784289 608784 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: \x only reads the next two digits; \u does four, \U does eight < 1354784295 753053 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in most languages which have them < 1354784307 307666 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Yes, but I wanted two characters. < 1354784310 670757 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was trying to IRC colors. < 1354784317 82022 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, OK < 1354784333 678953 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think HackEgo has a control code filter < 1354784354 391300 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks for being terrible, HackEgo. :-( < 1354784362 407783 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :All the coolbots use colour these days. < 1354784368 369253 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/lb/l b/ < 1354784377 588842 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.248.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uncool is the new cool < 1354784707 709766 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.172 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1354784776 111416 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-66-185.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/Frib/Armok < 1354784786 782798 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-66-185.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone made an esolang without realising < 1354784928 906535 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.248.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The cave is only 1-dimensional! < 1354784933 782105 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it a BF derivative? < 1354784956 530958 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.248.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/B/D/ < 1354784982 134509 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guessed < 1354784983 865772 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :from the name < 1354785008 191844 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-66-185.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think it's a BF derivative < 1354785011 77496 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-66-185.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks similar < 1354785033 163109 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-66-185.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's closer to MARIOLang with threading < 1354785041 744595 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf +++>,[<.>.,[.[-]],]!2a3b4c5d < 1354785042 100870 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :2a3b4c5d < 1354785044 148102 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ the better bot < 1354785075 768208 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-43-239.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1354785075 872195 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-43-239.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1354785075 944911 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1354785100 713764 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :did that come out in color? I set my client to filter colors < 1354785105 665334 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It did. < 1354785117 162879 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks for being terrible, ais523. < 1354785122 168285 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(To paraphrase shachaf.) < 1354785126 117270 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is that terrible? < 1354785134 110313 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, but apparently it is. < 1354785149 932734 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose life's just flat and dull without colours? < 1354785277 567613 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf +++>,>,[<<.>.+>.+]!1a < 1354785277 904899 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :1a2b3c4d5e6f7g8h9i:j;kn?o@pAqBrCsDtEuFvGwHxIyJzK{L|M}N~OP�Q�R�S�T�U�V�W�X�Y�Z�[�\�]�^�_�`�a�b�c�d�e�f�g�h�i�j�k�l�m�n�o�p�q�r�s�t�u� ... < 1354785285 12725 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it started all right. < 1354785290 854154 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1354785473 971313 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1354785700 174019 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.248.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks for being terrible, fizzie < 1354786350 939162 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@thx for being terrible, lambdabot < 1354786351 66219 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are welcome < 1354786738 572608 :iamcal!u1110@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ndgcbqyqfcdfinps QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1354786975 870080 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-66-185.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is data Stack :: * -> * -> * where Empty :: Stack Zero a; (:-) :: a -> Stack n a -> Stack (Succ n) a traversable? < 1354787118 863102 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-43-239.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1354787118 975346 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-43-239.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1354787118 975512 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1354787206 703599 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1354787216 33808 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-66-185.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1354787418 649803 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Did you read http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/um/people/simonpj/Papers/cpr/index.htm ? < 1354787432 204661 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The other end of "how to make a fast curry". < 1354787453 467650 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :rwbarton pointed out that the dual of currying is more like returning sums than returning products. < 1354787458 935704 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or at least I think that's what he was saying. < 1354787464 365119 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Compare foldr and unfoldr, for example. < 1354787654 111058 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Is that just Vect? < 1354787826 108750 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you do similar partial inlining for things that accept/return sums? < 1354787985 607482 :Sgeo!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott fizzie < 1354787991 841256 :Sgeo!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops Fiora < 1354788018 751075 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo Sgeo Sgeo < 1354788031 204300 :aloril!~aloril@84.249.126.153 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1354788076 959278 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.248.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hastur Hastur Hastur < 1354788111 733690 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`WELCOME GreyKnight < 1354788114 622655 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :GREYKNIGHT: WELCOME TO THE INTERNATIONAL HUB FOR ESOTERIC PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE DESIGN! FOR MORE INFORMATION, CHECK OUT OUR WIKI: HTTP://ESOLANGS.ORG/WIKI/MAIN_PAGE. (FOR THE OTHER KIND OF ESOTERICA, TRY #ESOTERIC ON IRC.DAL.NET.) < 1354788152 15835 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.248.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :THANKS < 1354788450 453119 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, Taneb is gone. < 1354788455 205543 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask Taneb Why not? < 1354788455 279001 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1354788534 557017 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.248.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like that Taneb's snippet has a :-) in it < 1354788565 399121 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you feel about its (:- ? < 1354788660 432067 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.248.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is its nose on its forehead :-O < 1354788687 56156 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote eat.a < 1354788687 213196 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :SamB_XP says: I once saw it eat a comment (:[{- Help! -}]) < 1354788768 172083 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.248.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :om nom nom < 1354788768 337423 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.248.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does the syntax mean anyway, I only know a tiny bit of Haskell < 1354788783 691594 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1354788819 882906 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which part? < 1354788838 294243 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.248.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(:-) < 1354788859 105000 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it's just referring to the infix name :- < 1354788862 772122 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1 + 2 < 1354788864 269908 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : 3 < 1354788865 889711 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (+) 1 2 < 1354788867 344409 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : 3 < 1354788868 752011 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.248.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And/or SamB_XP's bit) < 1354788873 628135 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(+) is a function that takes two arguments. < 1354788874 767868 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.248.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh yeah < 1354788880 945237 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (^2) 5 < 1354788882 417460 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : 25 < 1354788887 795557 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(^2) is a function that takes one argument and squares it. < 1354788899 560861 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.248.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew you could do that, just didn't think of :- as an operator < 1354788908 114622 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.248.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it didn't connect < 1354788926 221593 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell monqy (-: < 1354788926 435309 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1354788958 923592 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.248.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell lambdabot aren't you helpful! < 1354788959 80668 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice try ;) < 1354789079 936645 :iamcal!uid1110@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rxvoyxpxizfozlpx JOIN :#esoteric < 1354789725 909195 :slickeli!~ilja@p5795BCE7.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354789749 417790 :slickeli!~ilja@p5795BCE7.dip.t-dialin.net PART :#esoteric < 1354789757 269380 :slickeli!~ilja@p5795BCE7.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354790168 805707 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354790837 63 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354791354 431088 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1354791599 407594 :TeruFSX_!~quassel@65-128-184-186.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1354791769 677170 :TeruFSX!~quassel@65-128-184-186.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354792224 386004 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1354792231 382525 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354793243 156675 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1354793269 889878 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1354793293 49951 :Sgeo!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :McAffee was arrested < 1354793304 99906 :slickeli!~ilja@p5795BCE7.dip.t-dialin.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1354793315 491857 :slickeli!~ilja@p5795BCE7.dip.t-dialin.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw it today at news < 1354793328 213345 :slickeli!~ilja@p5795BCE7.dip.t-dialin.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :to bad for him < 1354793760 709188 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hatesgeo < 1354793793 413254 :Sgeo!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right, that script that points out how I had some severe connection issues? < 1354793793 694949 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1354793798 40205 :Sgeo!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.O < 1354793804 625053 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/hatesgeo < 1354793807 68540 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ perl -n -e '/:(.*?)!.*JOIN/; $j{$1}++; END {print "$_ $j{$_};" for sort {$j{$b} <=> $j{$a}} keys %j}' $@ < 1354793823 406094 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh man < 1354793851 893831 :Sgeo!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, my most recent JOIN was as Sgeo|web < 1354793882 399549 :Sgeo!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I guess you also have to pass it the filename of a log file? < 1354793904 216775 :Sgeo!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, why do you hate me? < 1354793911 502303 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't < 1354793915 208358 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was curious what it did < 1354793924 233978 :Sgeo!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1354793927 613458 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so in one CS class there's a rather silly assignment which is the end of a series of assignments < 1354793958 526029 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :wherein you are given a simple CFG and work on derivations < 1354793966 696263 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the CFG is just bracketed subtraction expressions on numbers < 1354794006 904899 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the last problem, inexplicably titled 'Galaxy' instead of, say, 'Problem 4', is to evaluate the expression given a derivation, assuming that all numbers are 42 < 1354794035 267309 :Sgeo!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1354794046 5499 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunately, due to the rather lame subset of everything useful that they use, you can ignore the whole CFG thing and just do simple text evaluation < 1354794060 697107 :Sgeo!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't even really know what CFG is < 1354794075 50767 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :context-free grammar < 1354794088 366756 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I managed to golf the whole assignment down to 53 characters of perl < 1354794195 214977 :oklopol!~oklopol@agw-sparknet.utu.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: you don't know how context-free grammars work? < 1354794208 810155 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was sad I couldn't break 50 < 1354794213 289507 :Sgeo!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't recognize the abbreviation. I have ... some idea < 1354794287 536900 :oklopol!~oklopol@agw-sparknet.utu.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :for instance "initial state A, rules A -> a, A -> aAa, B -> bb" is a CFG. it generates the words a, abba, aabbaa, aaabbaaa etc < 1354794307 409949 :oklopol!~oklopol@agw-sparknet.utu.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops. < 1354794319 683270 :oklopol!~oklopol@agw-sparknet.utu.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's try that again < 1354794334 816089 :oklopol!~oklopol@agw-sparknet.utu.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :*for instance "initial state A, rules A -> bb, A -> aAa" is a CFG. it generates the words bb, abba, aabbaa, aaabbaaa etc < 1354794345 290157 :oklopol!~oklopol@agw-sparknet.utu.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :because A -> bb gives the word bb < 1354794352 697717 :oklopol!~oklopol@agw-sparknet.utu.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :A -> aAa -> abba gives abba < 1354794364 599837 :oklopol!~oklopol@agw-sparknet.utu.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :A -> aAa -> aaAaa -> aabbaa gives aabbaa < 1354794457 732896 :oklopol!~oklopol@agw-sparknet.utu.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :here, A is a nonterminal, a and b are terminals. the set of words generated is the set of words over terminals you can generate by turning left hand sides of rules into right hand sides of rules. left hand sides of rules are always just a single nonterminal. < 1354794472 930090 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354794508 837609 :oklopol!~oklopol@agw-sparknet.utu.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone should learn to love CFG's, they're the second best language class < 1354794598 912548 :Taneb!~Taneb@mail.qehs.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354794685 126862 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.248.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's first best? < 1354794735 601892 :oklopol!~oklopol@agw-sparknet.utu.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :regular languages < 1354794817 207138 :TeruFSX!~quassel@65-128-184-186.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1354794890 618229 :TeruFSX!~quassel@65-128-184-186.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354795391 338419 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.248.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I want to vary from your example feather code slightly < 1354795490 65495 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.248.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have a program be a function [ sys ¦ body... ] and the "root object" is passed as the sys argument when starting up < 1354795490 364531 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.248.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :atomCompare, callCC, and IO can be extracted as properties of sys < 1354795527 438165 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay, ¦ < 1354795647 182016 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.248.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :My normal keyboard fails at regular pipes :-P < 1354795647 254489 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.248.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/normal/phone/ < 1354795647 349455 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.248.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Common typo < 1354795777 312031 :Sgeo!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, there exists example Feather code? < 1354795802 806784 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.248.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like one tiny fragment < 1354795836 461502 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.248.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And part of the syntax was already obsolete (grouping is now by parentheses not brackets) < 1354795856 77092 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.248.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have some examples of my own based on discussions with ais523 < 1354795994 701009 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.248.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :E.g. the =<< method can be defined on o by: < 1354795996 352096 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.248.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :o =<< <<= [dummy ¦ callcc [cc ¦ o <<= <<= cc]] < 1354796194 844709 :Taneb!~Taneb@mail.qehs.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1354796302 271674 :Sgeo!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel pathetic that I didn't get this until I read the discussion < 1354796302 788540 :Sgeo!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-001-ex-j < 1354796668 751372 :Taneb!~Taneb@mail.qehs.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354796837 61948 :Sgeo!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi Taneb did you see update (not particulary makot) < 1354796839 92320 :Sgeo!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maojor < 1354796840 306340 :Sgeo!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :major < 1354796843 507238 :Taneb!~Taneb@mail.qehs.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1354796843 585196 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1354796846 536197 :Taneb!~Taneb@mail.qehs.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aaaah < 1354796846 695740 :Sgeo!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 NICK :Roxy < 1354796847 415613 :Taneb!~Taneb@mail.qehs.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aaaah < 1354796848 496617 :Taneb!~Taneb@mail.qehs.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh no < 1354796855 408666 :Roxy!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 NICK :Sgeo < 1354796875 217230 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.248.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I got it! Amusing < 1354797013 918890 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :SingingBoyo: Who are you? < 1354797065 776184 :SingingBoyo!~SingingBo@d173-180-176-35.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Just a canadian. don't mind me. < 1354797091 91814 :SingingBoyo!~SingingBo@d173-180-176-35.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :SingingBoyo: if you need me I'll be off riding my moose. < 1354797092 22 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What was your previous nick? < 1354797111 12907 :SingingBoyo!~SingingBo@d173-180-176-35.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why did it put SingingBoyo. meh. < 1354797116 882541 :SingingBoyo!~SingingBo@d173-180-176-35.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I've never had a previous nick lol < 1354797124 993799 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelog SingingBoyo < 1354797130 764867 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.248.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :._. < 1354797149 958598 :Taneb!~Taneb@mail.qehs.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome SiningBoyo < 1354797154 688704 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :SiningBoyo: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1354797157 439446 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.15311 < 1354797161 413429 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1354797168 554530 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs SingingBoyo < 1354797184 412075 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.10325 < 1354797194 990631 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :1asdfasdf < 1354797216 4508 :SingingBoyo!~SingingBo@d173-180-176-35.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hmm. guess I was around for a day or so ages back. < 1354797218 858652 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :1hello ais and other people who don't see colors < 1354797257 244827 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: 01I see colors, including this one. < 1354797305 797756 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what color is your background? < 1354797338 453394 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.248.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mine's black < 1354797344 605576 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :would be nice to know everyone's background color 0so i could secretly communicate with only people with non-white backgrounds < 1354797349 704145 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.248.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0pitch black! < 1354797367 482604 :SingingBoyo!~SingingBo@d173-180-176-35.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm. I can read that. and I have a white background < 1354797372 721671 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1354797379 366929 :SingingBoyo!~SingingBo@d173-180-176-35.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :your plan has failed! < 1354797393 69908 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you read "so i could secretly communicate with only people with non-white backgrounds"? < 1354797396 275144 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.248.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's racist :-o < 1354797398 783311 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the previous sentence < 1354797400 811151 :SingingBoyo!~SingingBo@d173-180-176-35.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup < 1354797416 603408 :SingingBoyo!~SingingBo@d173-180-176-35.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then GreyKnight said 'pitch black!' < 1354797425 738494 :Taneb!~Taneb@mail.qehs.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, I'm not very good at defining traversable instances < 1354797428 115679 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.248.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :4foo < 1354797429 156468 :Taneb!~Taneb@mail.qehs.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I've got it now :) < 1354797458 669946 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.248.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :3this client has an odd palette < 1354797482 199923 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Isn't it the same as []'s Traversable instance? < 1354797550 938644 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.248.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot I love you < 1354797551 270255 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: they say that you can only kill a lich once and then led to the military base, two soldiers appeared before him! ( who goes there?, by j.r.r. tolkien) < 1354797668 657794 :Taneb!~Taneb@mail.qehs.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, annoyingly, not quite < 1354797669 729179 :Taneb!~Taneb@mail.qehs.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbl < 1354797670 702302 :Taneb!~Taneb@mail.qehs.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1354797784 647041 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: i'm pretty sure it's the same palette in every client < 1354797844 183169 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you send something like 0x01 where 1 is some small number and then you send and ascii number between 0-15 and that's what colors it < 1354797851 945013 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :*an ascii < 1354797872 190647 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :2sasdfew10asfewmmm < 1354797913 142932 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1354797955 118220 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :the same palette in the sense that you can send me the same colors as anyone else, of course they might look silly in your end, but then so will our messages prolly < 1354798225 63939 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.248.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what I meant < 1354798284 732995 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1354798305 929862 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.248.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :3dusty pink 2beige 10light brown 13turquoise < 1354798332 412354 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the number seems to be taken mod 16 < 1354798369 209775 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably depends on the implementation < 1354798392 527266 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :38hello? < 1354798415 559547 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :1234567891011121314151617181920212223242526272829303132 < 1354798418 890096 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1354798446 42222 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 < 1354798449 864212 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1354798459 850205 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 < 1354798480 805377 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right. < 1354798480 952692 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.248.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whut < 1354798533 298208 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.248.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm scared and confused < 1354798590 434886 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :1o2k3o4k5o6k7o8k9o10k11o12k13o14k15o16k17o18k19o20k21o22k23o24k25o26k27o28k29o30k31o32k o < 1354798593 970603 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1354798629 182571 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's mod 16 when i'm writing the message, then shows up as white after going through the network. < 1354798656 747052 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :then again mirc/nnscript shows many things differently in the prompt than on channel < 1354798702 642967 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :also up there i first said 32 color codes, then 32 colored spaces. oops. < 1354798729 177298 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :1234 < 1354798773 641588 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.248.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is oko < 1354798798 326586 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :okokokokokokokokokoko < 1354798878 149338 :Sgeo!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1354798967 387553 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.248.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kokokokokok < 1354798995 266681 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :> cycle "ok" < 1354798996 691013 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : "okokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokok... < 1354799021 163842 :nortti!nortti@dsl-hkibrasgw3-ff25c000-52.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul ((ok)S:^):^ < 1354799021 558814 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :okokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokok ...too much output! < 1354799032 716424 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a lot of oko < 1354799042 454039 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fnugot < 1354799044 286892 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot < 1354799044 683849 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: if you can't wipe your greasy bare hands on a scare monster scroll. ( the stand, by sucking the blood of sleeping persons.... the legend tells how the wind, the lyre, pan's pipes, numbers, the first ever seen your weapon and take off your clothes. < 1354799053 154296 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :GNUgot, a GNU implementation of fungot < 1354799053 389940 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: it is rectangular in shape, very thin cakes, made of a sort of thing hrun the barbarian and the outside, he was bested only twice: once when orpheus put him to attempt the conquest of medusa. < 1354799061 771005 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot < 1354799062 85475 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: a magic lamp. once in a knockingshop it was another cockatrice. i knew my erik too well to feel the latter with just a computer key, followed by a priestess who went into his back. knife in his honor. it wraps itself around its prey and digests it. < 1354799068 669061 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style youtube < 1354799068 957458 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: youtube (Some YouTube comments) < 1354799069 514835 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot < 1354799070 396987 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: this looks pretty good run-down of the french guy is a pig next to grandma, they certainly felt very max payne-ish yes, i like hip hop no trance...1 2 3..........wtf...opera... < 1354799115 152094 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Makes perfect sense, fungot < 1354799115 386680 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: i am buying this album. < 1354799132 118279 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1354799580 290316 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: which album < 1354799580 722080 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: cool hair. i can say < 1354799637 362689 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.248.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot's latest album, out now, just in time for Christmas! < 1354799637 752693 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: looks like they have been writing and directing the digital shorts more often! < 1354799640 414860 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.248.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm "fungot's" doesn't trigger him? Not sure how I feel about this < 1354799640 798839 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: " plus the way they make there games) and non-frizzy!!!! < 1354799641 351745 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.248.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, what will be on your new album? < 1354799641 724750 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: coulda been good once, as it was good and bad things so in depth so game has a point. and bullet time))) luv av. and more < 1354799664 717449 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1354799668 992903 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i will buy this album too. < 1354799672 662902 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.248.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nm I was lagging I guess! < 1354799705 199754 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.248.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, digital shorts and games? Best album ever < 1354799721 278719 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.248.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, what about hidden tracks? < 1354799721 665514 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: i am not 100% sure. and the crash < 1354799804 403747 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.248.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh dear, it crashes if you try to access the hidden track :-( < 1354799975 684065 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.248.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Given this style is trained from youtube comments, I'm surprised fungot isn't swearing more... < 1354800268 392315 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :youtube comments do not involve much swearing? < 1354800357 380145 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.248.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, not just me lagged, is it fungot ? < 1354800358 346087 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.248.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1354800358 719643 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube* < 1354800375 523400 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1354800391 728167 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354800438 124113 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.248.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: TBF I don't use that site much, but I was reliably informed the comments have a high proportion of scum and villainy < 1354800440 981182 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.248.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style c64 < 1354800441 294761 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: c64 (C64 programming material) < 1354800453 534765 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.248.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :SAVE "FUNGOT", 8, 1 < 1354800589 89731 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight, yeah, but they're mostly just dumb. < 1354800600 941282 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.248.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot why don't you like me :-( < 1354800677 391395 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.248.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric : :( why does CentOS include an obsolete Mercurial? < 1354806991 47180 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are you -- < 1354806993 936611 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :never mind i don't want to know < 1354807026 50639 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-5-3.dab.02.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354807043 999691 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :04:48:44 more like 1100 drink a 7-Eleven Double Gulp everyday < 1354807044 134721 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :04:52:59 Wouldn't doing that at 0711 make more sense? < 1354807044 207874 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :04:53:25 no because i am not awake then < 1354807047 311832 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: living the dream < 1354807123 206314 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-5-3.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the new diet craze that's sweeping the nation < 1354807432 510768 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :13:05:15 FireFly: i am buying this album. < 1354807433 38762 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it stores the scan line at a time. there are two types of argu- ments are also available to you from where the sprite at 3 locations one at a rate of the switches are used to send into the same timing test on a ( a value of 2048 ( 801), < 1354807434 128324 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :13:13:00 fungot: which album < 1354807434 284333 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :13:13:00 oklofok: cool hair. i can say < 1354807434 510609 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: a control message. press play record messages, this subroutine is ffd2. when < 1354807434 682827 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: a normal character set. in the frequency is the only way to get the number will make all keys repeating, while the 8 bits provide single raster resolution within the device you intend opening a datasette recorder file, you select one of the locations affected are control register ( pr) and < 1354807436 770041 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :13:14:01 fungot, what will be on your new album? < 1354807436 842169 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :13:14:01 GreyKnight: coulda been good once, as it was good and bad things so in depth so game has a point. and bullet time))) luv av. and more < 1354807437 159707 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: there are, however, keep in mind when you write, and < 1354807440 638198 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would listen to this < 1354807466 355583 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354807470 230227 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: hi < 1354807529 427192 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-5-3.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, it's not just music! It has digital shorts and games too! < 1354807543 2265 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-5-3.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cool Hair by fungot, get yours today < 1354807543 392938 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: the exception to this bit is set to 1 and 1.99999..., and then resume execution by typing the run/ stop key is pressed < 1354807668 123605 :Taneb!~Taneb@mail.qehs.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354808068 923397 :Taneb!~Taneb@mail.qehs.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, you can't use the list instance because it makes a type error < 1354808086 53827 :Taneb!~Taneb@mail.qehs.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Couldn't match type `Succ Zero' with `Zero'" < 1354808190 171655 :Taneb!~Taneb@mail.qehs.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've made separate instances for Stack Zero and Traversable (Stack n) => Traversable (Stack (Succ n)) < 1354808365 744025 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-5-3.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...you guys are trying to do computation with a type system, aren't you < 1354808383 363012 :Taneb!~Taneb@mail.qehs.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, just me < 1354808388 811862 :Taneb!~Taneb@mail.qehs.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And just encoding the length of the stack < 1354808691 854924 :nortti!nortti@dsl-hkibrasgw3-ff25c000-52.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll try computation with type system after I finish my list based "computer" in cpp < 1354808850 651843 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-5-3.dab.02.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1354809055 974006 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: did you see ph got complaints about that blog < 1354809076 176723 :Taneb!~Taneb@mail.qehs.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...the one I write? < 1354809082 221893 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one "ph" writes < 1354809086 255531 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-5-3.dab.02.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354809089 931624 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereby "ph" i mean "taneb" < 1354809108 278009 :Taneb!~Taneb@mail.qehs.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay < 1354809113 660565 :Taneb!~Taneb@mail.qehs.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And no, I didn't < 1354809116 729527 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: it was from the author of one of the languages you reviewed < 1354809122 136109 :Taneb!~Taneb@mail.qehs.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1354809141 68325 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-5-3.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :esoteric language reviews? < 1354809154 349330 :Taneb!~Taneb@mail.qehs.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight, not serious ones < 1354809170 389941 :Taneb!~Taneb@mail.qehs.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's me pretending to be Phantom_Hoover being nasty to brainfuck derivatives < 1354809175 406917 :Taneb!~Taneb@mail.qehs.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, where's the complaint? < 1354809189 685326 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :his inbox < 1354809208 922177 :Taneb!~Taneb@mail.qehs.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hehe < 1354809218 344573 :Taneb!~Taneb@mail.qehs.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, can you forward it to me? < 1354809240 96519 :Taneb!~Taneb@mail.qehs.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or do you mean the Tumblr account's inbox? < 1354809267 692615 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354809280 190932 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-5-3.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, might still be amusing, link plox :-) < 1354809288 851769 :Taneb!~Taneb@mail.qehs.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :phantom-hoover.tumblr.com < 1354809294 720238 :Taneb!~Taneb@mail.qehs.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think < 1354809299 766897 :Taneb!~Taneb@mail.qehs.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tumblr's blocked here < 1354809316 196813 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1354809344 182758 :Taneb!~Taneb@mail.qehs.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover, elliott says someone's been complaining about your blog < 1354809351 918750 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i said that! < 1354809364 584476 :Taneb!~Taneb@mail.qehs.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you forward the complaint to me? < 1354809411 348557 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-5-3.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, "just a single solid of text" you say < 1354809427 128434 :Taneb!~Taneb@mail.qehs.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm afraid I can't edit it from here < 1354809445 126049 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style ct < 1354809445 445939 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: ct (Chrono Trigger game script) < 1354809452 345583 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot! < 1354809452 755831 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: the masamune!? crono, it's you, isn't this morbid? the great adventurer toma levine rests in a grave to the north. it's a great place for a picnic! heard that magus's place... < 1354809477 623041 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-5-3.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot is getting a bit gothy there, picnics in a graveyard?! < 1354809478 188714 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: is the gate key okay!! get' em! 200g per night. care, and stay...healthy! my husband...he's...he's...gone... but he left me precious gifts! the seeds...and our child, it's ancient history now... < 1354809497 540852 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight, yeah he's pretty sinister when he's set to ct < 1354809502 602367 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-5-3.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...and now we're recreating Jack and the Beanstalk < 1354809514 972592 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he threatened to kill me a while back < 1354809521 531563 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, do you still want to kill me btw < 1354809521 990359 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: and you call yourself a frog, and ayla... i will not betray my friends! he must be the invention. hope it still leaves you hungry! here you are the only one thing we need to defeat you, lavos. < 1354809522 770099 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-5-3.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1354809523 749566 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-5-3.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quote? < 1354809531 114700 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1354809545 593231 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh god i don't remember what he actually said, it was like two years go < 1354809557 837858 :Taneb!~Taneb@mail.qehs.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1354809558 260071 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct* darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1354809559 75090 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-5-3.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, nm < 1354809601 520240 :Taneb!~Taneb@mail.qehs.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, is the format I would use to write a style and email it to you publicized anywhere? < 1354809604 598783 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-5-3.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wp = wikipedia? < 1354809614 705083 :Taneb!~Taneb@mail.qehs.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style wp < 1354809615 117286 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: wp (1/256th of all Wikipedia "Talk:" namespace pages) < 1354809628 111981 :Taneb!~Taneb@mail.qehs.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, is this wikipedia? < 1354809628 785804 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-5-3.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahaha < 1354809629 24826 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: please go to :image:wvcr-fm.jpgthe image description page and edit it to include a wikipedia:fair use rationale guideline fair use rationale on the other images used on this page. < 1354809644 14049 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot? < 1354809645 39690 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: ' ' edison built a bulb with the inside surface covered with metal foil. he connected the foil to the positive terminal of the filament, the many electons emmitted from the hot filament were attracted to the daughter, and eagerly agrees to rent the room. < 1354809648 956269 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-5-3.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, are you related to betacommandbot?!? < 1354809650 136116 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: i don't know what it's about, it allows the construction of the french monarchy?" so third, the experiment is not about “knowing or not knowing the which way fnord but actually the fnord together of a fringe and fnord pattern because of the passage of time. < 1354809678 276437 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the many electons emmitted from the hot filament were attracted to the daughter" what? < 1354809694 335233 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-5-3.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the electron-daughter interaction, didn't you pay attention in school? < 1354810328 200651 :greyooze!~GK@82.132.249.218 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354810353 31304 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354810354 766421 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-5-3.dab.02.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1354810357 33470 :greyooze!~GK@82.132.249.218 NICK :GreyKnight < 1354810384 639995 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.249.218 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, you lookin' at me?! < 1354810385 538320 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: gnu license for the site to communicate directly with her fans whether they want her to or not, this is the intended meaning? it would appear the original definition of conservative.) < 1354811035 724196 :slickeli!~ilja@p5795BCE7.dip.t-dialin.net PART :#esoteric < 1354812329 49753 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.249.218 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm the GNU license has fans and is female < 1354812400 742637 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.249.218 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what IS that link in the topic? It's blocked for me < 1354812593 933165 :augur_!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1354812597 466792 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1354812661 62425 :Taneb!~Taneb@mail.qehs.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1354812755 340332 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1354812826 35977 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1354812990 788999 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1354813067 635615 :Taneb!~Taneb@mail.qehs.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354813091 299408 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't it obvious from the URL? < 1354813131 796307 :Taneb!~Taneb@mail.qehs.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1354813222 770382 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, it times out for me < 1354813232 727725 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.249.218 PRIVMSG #esoteric :something to do with turkeys and a molotov cocktail < 1354813236 790780 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.249.218 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fairly improbably combination < 1354813244 755296 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.249.218 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/bly/ble/ < 1354813247 284868 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :and porn < 1354813265 319353 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Link worked for me, although a bit slowly < 1354813278 93888 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.249.218 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I figured that part was a joke since turkeys aren't a particularly mainstream fetish AFAIK < 1354813323 746754 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.249.218 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is brain bleach required? < 1354813360 422130 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not particularly < 1354813366 881206 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Depends on what you think of us < 1354813376 731113 :kallisti!~eris@168.28.136.16 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354813381 145177 :kallisti!~eris@168.28.136.16 QUIT :Changing host < 1354813381 216829 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1354813381 539808 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :...assuming it's meant to point to what I think it is < 1354813407 123186 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.249.218 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whut < 1354813412 537679 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :curl: (7) couldn't connect to host at 5z8.info:80 < 1354813414 512262 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1354813446 497733 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi TOPIC #esoteric :♣ Hacking ♣ http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1354813461 435872 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's slow enough that it's counterproductive < 1354813491 171275 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: 5z8.info is shadyurl.com < 1354813519 642542 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.249.218 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds, er, shady < 1354813760 130548 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :takes a second or two < 1354813843 372915 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.249.218 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: this was brilliant http://fioraaeterna.tumblr.com/post/20186536921/ < 1354813967 59762 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1354814052 702987 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1354814530 5895 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awwww, didn't know the creepy URL was so unreliable :( < 1354814546 508882 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1354814937 356702 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :travis-ci.org is pretty nifty, but also makes me go, “and what do they get out of this?” < 1354814962 874356 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: they have sponsors < 1354814969 138968 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and some kind of paid thing < 1354814976 693908 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :for corps < 1354814996 136068 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://love.travis-ci.org/sponsors http://about.travis-ci.org/docs/user/travis-pro/ < 1354815070 47011 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is running free CI for any idiot on github sufficient advertisement to be worth it for the pro users it attracts, I wonder? < 1354815090 796471 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(As per sponsors... that's nice and all, but sponsors is not a business model.) < 1354815094 871579 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1354815101 781292 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't say it was a business model < 1354815111 387062 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :though it is a better one than many have < 1354815148 563854 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well sure, lots of Internet businesses crop up with no real money source, then “mysteriously” vanish when their venture capital runs dry. < 1354815158 82210 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: well, "new random hosted CI thing" isn't a very compelling sell since I believe there's already a ton of them < 1354815195 325563 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"new random hosted CI thing that has a massively popular free version that you can check out and has GitHub integration" seems like a pretty good way to get customers < 1354815200 400079 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmm. < 1354815202 384659 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quite possibly. < 1354815241 433323 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(github's integration is cool -- pull requests get their builds automatically checked an dstuff) < 1354815244 474618 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*an dstuff < 1354815245 367541 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*and stuff < 1354815248 151368 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1354815319 220319 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.249.218 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/ //g THERE < 1354815428 271015 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :andstuff? < 1354815511 29531 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.249.218 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm a helper! < 1354815529 654838 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/.//g < 1354815601 49105 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.249.218 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even better < 1354816186 97335 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.249.218 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: oh, also, did you see my comment a while back about the Feather "root object"? < 1354816257 377781 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.249.218 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd given this snippet: [ atomCompare | [ callCC | [ programText | [ IO | ( ( callCC ( ) ) ) ] ] ] ] < 1354816358 648310 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.249.218 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if we pass atomCompare, callCC, and IO as members of the root object, and then the initial program can just be a function [ root-object | <...> ] < 1354816375 35326 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.249.218 PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes it a bit more readable (** suppressed laughter **) < 1354816750 949967 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1354816932 641003 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.249.218 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm how do I identify a Church numeral in order to print its value, I should probably know this < 1354816942 821820 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1354816960 40577 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.249.218 PRIVMSG #esoteric :something ridiculously prodigal no doubt ;-) < 1354817045 419821 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1354817206 910382 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.249.218 PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay think I see it < 1354817542 715105 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the many electons emmitted from the hot filament were attracted to the daughter, and eagerly agrees to rent the room" <3 fungot (and I suppose Wikipedia Talk namespace too) < 1354817543 507227 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i have moved the section about international relations. the full title is " kokin wakashū" and then freely use " kokinshū" is often subject to debate. < 1354817667 535991 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.249.218 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I think we should have a disambiguation page at [[Ireland]], what do you think? < 1354817668 211134 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: 5) the fox bio doesn't show him working for the studios wrote that lame description of jesse james hollywood's capture. < 1354817715 161293 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's Talk: 'cause I hoped that would be more conversation-like than the main namespace. < 1354817767 366989 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.249.218 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: it is also where the main soap operas take place so I love you if you are the one who implemented this style! < 1354817800 64267 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there fungot styles fizzie did not implement < 1354817800 963795 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: o'er the fnord steep, 4 july 2008 ( utc) ( forgot to sign in) loving this. he was a captain during the baluchistan. however, i can't speak for him, he < 1354817812 951712 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.249.218 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know < 1354817829 459842 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.249.218 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, use four tildes! ~~~~ < 1354817830 296287 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: i don't know which article to merge into the democratic party? free socialist 12:57, 9 october 2008 ( utc)/span/small!-- template:unsigned !--autosigned by sinebot-- ( nevermind, it's under gang of four allowed deng to fnord < 1354817837 761532 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.249.218 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::> < 1354817838 542403 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like it did not manage to use them correctly < 1354817861 643182 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.249.218 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm looks like some HTML leaked in there too < 1354817867 667199 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.249.218 PRIVMSG #esoteric :/span/small < 1354817876 933257 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1354817897 26478 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.249.218 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, was it you who came up with the idea of using a map for Feather input? < 1354817912 526819 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1354817912 791661 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp* youtube < 1354817914 690788 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think so? < 1354817923 11359 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style irc < 1354817923 329138 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: irc (IRC logs of freenode/#esoteric, freenode/#scheme and ircnet/#douglasadams) < 1354817990 951682 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.249.218 PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay; it was a good idea so I am going to credit-slash-blame you once I manage to get it implemented < 1354818061 50329 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, fungot < 1354818061 833603 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: based on a very special case of 3d in msw logo works in three fnord 2d is, in essence... you think the macro idea is the same < 1354818094 149051 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354818342 473112 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-8-153.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354818427 271715 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-8-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :'A "brony" is the term used to describe the adult fans of the My Little Pony game and of the TV show of the same title.' -- BBC News Website < 1354818489 814225 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.249.218 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Internet is leaking < 1354818685 868613 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: YouTube came from... asiekierka? < 1354818694 971962 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@fluttershy.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: what < 1354818695 556439 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone, anyway. < 1354818705 865625 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@fluttershy.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb - >game < 1354818708 938031 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: It wasn't you? It was someone. < 1354818710 398795 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@fluttershy.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's it, i quit the fandom < 1354818713 489870 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.249.218 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, what link? < 1354818716 348756 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@fluttershy.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: what do you mean even < 1354818718 166295 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@fluttershy.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure < 1354818726 136021 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-8-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-20629245 < 1354818731 496941 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: Someone sent me the fungot style file for YouTube. < 1354818731 869842 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ' () and f < 1354818752 407083 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.249.218 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: What about your own '() < 1354818753 124650 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: what hardware os? i just want to grasp some concepts like continuations, exceptions, flows down into at all times < 1354819052 84725 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-8-153.as13285.net NICK :Taneb|Away < 1354819057 928251 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.172 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354819076 510225 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.249.218 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: everybody loves them some continuations < 1354819077 150395 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: i second that dare. nosfe's scary. if i would send the game the same way < 1354819137 602904 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@fluttershy.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie - oh, yeah < 1354819138 527355 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@fluttershy.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was me < 1354819702 666668 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How recent of IRC logs of fungot style file do they use? < 1354819729 592775 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: It was asiekierka. < 1354819740 620444 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hear it was done with copy-and-paste, not web scraping. < 1354819828 605840 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@fluttershy.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: IIRC i web scraped the two most popular video < 1354819830 628482 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@fluttershy.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :s < 1354819835 343883 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@fluttershy.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then ran a few sed commands to get the result < 1354819847 410291 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@fluttershy.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe i just copy-pasted the two most popular videos and sedded them < 1354819847 984901 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@fluttershy.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure < 1354819944 312012 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.249.218 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so how DO we submit styles? < 1354819954 242133 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have to be signed in triplicate < 1354820037 703001 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.249.218 QUIT :Quit: back later < 1354820154 706309 :TeruFSX_!~quassel@65-128-184-186.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354820160 687079 :TeruFSX!~quassel@65-128-184-186.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1354820575 538232 :hagb4rd!~perdito@77.11.116.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :siemasz siekierka < 1354820649 392564 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Czesc asiekierka < 1354820687 987620 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bork bork bork asiekierka < 1354820706 878912 :hagb4rd!~perdito@77.11.116.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg.. jesus was a mushroom! < 1354820739 35272 :hagb4rd!~perdito@77.11.116.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you know john allegro? he wrote this fascinating book about the origins of religion < 1354820743 326031 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-43-239.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1354820743 399044 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-43-239.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1354820743 399173 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1354820861 354735 :hagb4rd!~perdito@77.11.116.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.google.de/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CDQQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.socialgo.com%2Fcache%2F246062%2Fassets%2Ffiles%2F4e9428f9e8f92-246062-JohnAllegroTheSacredMushroomAndTheCross.pdf&ei=6-zAUKbHEseftAb5pYFw&usg=AFQjCNEzOHzyYXWsaqDcH67LpuUqi4CU7Q&sig2=VcvFk51BCxrKOKoe8MBqDA < 1354820866 13018 :hagb4rd!~perdito@77.11.116.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's worth reading < 1354821020 341179 :hagb4rd!~perdito@77.11.116.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry.. this one seems not to work < 1354821077 526012 :hagb4rd!~perdito@77.11.116.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i only have a german version here.. but i'm sure you'll be able to find it your prefered language around the web ;) < 1354821124 871792 :hagb4rd!~perdito@77.11.116.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :jesus is the main topic of this channel isn't it? < 1354821139 884640 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354821152 933504 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1354821163 574534 :hagb4rd!~perdito@77.11.116.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1354821233 449398 :Taneb|Away!~nathan@host-92-17-8-153.as13285.net NICK :Taneb < 1354821265 775392 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hail the mighty penis in the sky < 1354821277 31895 :hagb4rd!~perdito@77.11.116.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1354821287 102971 :hagb4rd!~perdito@77.11.116.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see you found it < 1354821307 75184 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was a direct link to an english pdf :P < 1354821315 273627 :hagb4rd!~perdito@77.11.116.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it work? < 1354821319 115711 :hagb4rd!~perdito@77.11.116.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm.. < 1354821323 545708 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :very much so < 1354821331 897370 :hagb4rd!~perdito@77.11.116.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had some trouble opening it < 1354821429 491962 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How to pick the lock of a "PERFECT MICRO" floppy disk box? < 1354821834 731163 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hammer. < 1354822049 466125 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lockpick. < 1354822064 237202 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-8-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nose. < 1354822080 363824 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :there ought to be a tool called nosepick < 1354822103 35833 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :sort of a spoon, I guess < 1354822114 403809 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-8-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quite narrow < 1354822188 879407 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a bit worrying that fungot wants to grasp continuations < 1354822189 239433 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: here's why you should have said something disturbing :) < 1354822235 946826 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-8-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, now fungot's smiling and it's all your fault for not saying something disturbing < 1354822236 620195 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: ugh... so i'm trying a brainfuck only quine first place, would i be? < 1354822314 481760 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: luckily you have a built-in brainfuck interpreter to try it out in < 1354822315 63603 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: setting up scsh ( fnord) ( eq? x ' ( 1 ( 7 9 8 10)? please say " a continuation is < 1354822347 687320 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :there fungot goes again wanting someone to teach them about continuations < 1354822348 319379 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: to evaluate the previous s-expression and send it to /dev/ null < 1354822422 237312 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1354822435 996132 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot's aware that he just sent an s-expression? < 1354822436 537026 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: ( and i can't rename it on the floor, it was " wanted pages"), then < 1354822472 935370 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :does befunge have s-expressions? < 1354822633 296729 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1354823002 295323 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-43-239.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1354823022 176877 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-43-239.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1354823022 250190 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1354823208 263609 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1354823289 736438 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1354823498 427469 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1354823864 190382 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.249.216 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354823888 378047 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.249.216 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: botsnack < 1354823889 4460 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: it's just an anus.' and stops. egh. i need to know it < 1354823899 123683 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.249.216 PRIVMSG #esoteric :._. < 1354823908 558173 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just an anus, GreyKnight! < 1354823924 654081 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.249.216 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is not what I wanted. I wanted the opposite of this. < 1354823944 623961 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :an anus that doesn't stop? are you sure? < 1354823965 187092 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.249.216 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And fungot needs to "know it" o_O < 1354823965 778279 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: then translate the lets into lambdas function applications instead of lets? i suspect not < 1354824103 882708 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: thanks, glad you liked that post < 1354824121 438669 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.249.216 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I shared it around the office too < 1354824156 939273 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.249.216 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Especially when he lines up all the knights, it's hilarious < 1354824182 924293 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :He has a few other variations where he does it with bishops or similar < 1354824199 698782 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nakamura is really totally amazing < 1354824248 7528 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.249.216 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Knights were the best I think, because of their loose capturing net < 1354824262 463171 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, and being able to do that checkmate so quickly is amazing < 1354824271 74057 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.249.216 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But he is all "kekekeke knight rush" :-D < 1354824276 408409 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, he's practiced it, but, it's sooo easy to accidentally stalemate someone in a knight checkmate < 1354824280 59734 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like that < 1354824365 315872 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.249.216 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can accidentally stalemate even playing at normal speed ._. < 1354824367 46120 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.249.216 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm not very good) < 1354824367 195150 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1354824374 407561 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :me too < 1354824388 752763 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty terribly out of practice < 1354824414 887103 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used to play like 5 minute games online though, it was fun < 1354824416 308776 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1354824454 759929 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is chess < 1354824512 747249 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.249.216 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a game, like snakes and ladders, except different < 1354824594 531980 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can never remember how the horsey guys move. < 1354824654 296805 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.249.216 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw an esoteric ("the other kind") version of chess once, I wonder if I can come up with our kind of esoteric chess :> < 1354824654 370515 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.249.216 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION leaps across a few squares to demonstrate to Bike
< 1354824675 414880 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354824683 605572 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :agh shit, you sunk my battleship, right? < 1354824686 36056 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how often people shove their chess variants into chess computers to see how it affects strategy and stuff < 1354824692 777209 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like by modifying move generation < 1354824696 524810 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :we already made a chess variant < 1354824700 430822 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was good < 1354824703 518385 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.249.216 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do tell < 1354824704 425562 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :unplayable of course < 1354824707 866437 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it was continuous chess < 1354824714 851961 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and mostly uncomputable < 1354824756 380054 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :less excitingly, you could probably make an esolang based on move notation < 1354824777 888711 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about making an esolang based on solving a chess puzzle on an NxN board? < 1354824785 297653 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :generalized chess is EXPTIME < 1354824787 545113 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.249.216 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Continuous as in non-grid-based positioning? < 1354824788 731191 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.249.216 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are the rules written up anywhere? < 1354824800 688837 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: like n-queens or something? < 1354824996 309132 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: like, NxN chess board with arbitrary pieces, solve for mate < 1354825006 157531 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or the decision problem, "is a forced mate possible"? < 1354825007 836913 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess < 1354825011 24526 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :EXPTIME-complete apparently < 1354825014 536617 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1354825150 639494 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.249.216 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am thinking about an infinite chessboard with the ability to "paint" squares as you land on them < 1354825194 194393 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds, um.... kind of like Angels and Demons for some reason < 1354825216 847911 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or whatever that puzzle is called, I don't remember... < 1354825230 144567 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.249.216 PRIVMSG #esoteric :For a given initial arrangement of pieces and initial board colouring, this might be TC < 1354825231 301057 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angel_problem right < 1354825260 381252 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah... I think that sounds TC... < 1354825292 152713 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :where did conway get all the money for these prizes < 1354825352 832609 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, $100 isn't much, i guess < 1354825366 564565 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should really get winning ways sometime. < 1354825465 623381 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got a receipt from an oil change place that said, if I remember correctly, "Team: T:ppater B:ppater S:ppater M:ppater" < 1354825469 825498 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I'm tempted to go back and dive through the chess programming wiki again <_<; < 1354825481 293869 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone have any idea what that means? < 1354825494 793617 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.172 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1354825530 930763 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :tuesday, briday, sunday, monday < 1354825539 613450 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :poor ppater is always the team < 1354825594 896715 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.249.216 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it was raining < 1354825603 302729 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.249.216 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ppater ppater ppater < 1354825611 777796 :hagb4rd!~perdito@77.11.116.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there should be an addtional day between saturday and sunday *sigh < 1354825644 723707 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :reminds me of the short film about an extra integer existing between three and four < 1354825678 946790 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.249.216 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Revolutionary new research < 1354825755 773316 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.249.216 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: I've never seen that, but have heard similar gags before < 1354825770 587777 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.249.216 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How did this one proceed? < 1354825796 241283 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you wouldn't happen to have any information about continuous chess, would you? < 1354825826 873657 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ask PH < 1354825830 370667 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :he will remember it better than me < 1354825832 327933 :hagb4rd!~perdito@77.11.116.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would add two integers..12 would do a better base < 1354825877 622775 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.249.216 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett, if you see him before I do, I would also like info! < 1354825908 482307 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1354825983 740715 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bought this "adapter from 2x(3.5mm stereo) headphones+mic to 3.5mm four-pole headset connector" cable, and it didn't work; I just multimetered it, and it's just a splitter that has two female 4-pole 3.5mm connectors, and a direct mapping from each ring (of both) into the corresponding ring of the 4-pole male. < 1354825986 702045 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, there's this: http://www.chessvariants.org/other.dir/continuouschess.html < 1354825997 540162 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that's not as continuous as I was hoping. < 1354826054 772861 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: the usual... scientist has revolutionary idea, scientist considered crazy, the movie ends on a mysterious note with his shrink seeing the same thing (maybe it's real!!) < 1354826084 230155 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunately it only works when applied to ideas that you can pretend to believe in < 1354826122 51078 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.249.216 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder about applying the ideas behind quantum football to chess < 1354826186 936417 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.249.216 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Both kings are spread out across the whole board. Goal is to spike the enemy king's wavefunction into a threatened square of one of your pieces < 1354826273 827912 :hagb4rd!~perdito@77.11.116.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*g < 1354826294 590113 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh fudge. I just clicked on a link from the Wikipedia article "Differential game" and it led me to an article co-written by the head of my university's math department. < 1354826305 966336 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: how spiked does it need to be? < 1354826356 939450 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.249.216 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know! What is the criterion in quantum football? < 1354826451 891446 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just got back from a tour of the fourth oldest nuclear reactor in the USA < 1354826480 867051 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. which one is that? < 1354826493 729060 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.249.216 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm maybe we want probability 63/64 on the square. Or can we sum across all threatened squares actually? < 1354826664 286444 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know of many chess variant < 1354826852 468964 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Huh? < 1354826893 842723 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-8-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh huh? < 1354826913 633239 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: don't you want to change your nick to Tneb? I think it would be better somehow < 1354826935 863471 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-8-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, I'd rather have Tanb, for etymological reasons < 1354826949 586732 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought about that, but it's not as good < 1354826977 436937 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-8-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about Ngvd? < 1354826984 518449 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip my e < 1354826996 924875 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-8-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not your e! < 1354827006 570649 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-8-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's my great-grandfather's e! < 1354827010 195644 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the e is required in Ngevd < 1354827012 770989 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-8-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which he got from his father! < 1354827017 159833 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-8-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which he got from his mother! < 1354827021 229055 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-8-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who was called Elliott! < 1354827029 358158 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-8-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(actually true) < 1354827040 278975 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-8-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(mildly misleading, but true) < 1354827231 508073 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the e is somehow essential to make the initial ŋ sound < 1354827936 300329 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: MIT Nuclear Research Reactor < 1354827962 481413 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :neat < 1354828032 185018 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1354828108 428343 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1354828121 720524 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of only a few reactors that still uses highly enriched uranium < 1354828148 262394 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they describe their fuel as "self-protecting", which means that it would be extremely difficult to steal it without killing yourself immediately < 1354828157 338123 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :innovative < 1354828157 430486 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1354828174 750641 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did not realise MIT had a nuclear reactor < 1354828178 530973 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :slightly more scared of them now < 1354828214 995256 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.249.216 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I like their style < 1354828217 549533 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i recently found out that one of the older reactors (used for the Manhattan Project) is relatively near me, so i thought that might have been it for some reason < 1354828224 271550 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not just any reactor, a super old reactor that uses HEU, *and* they let undergrads control it! < 1354828233 301861 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1354828249 724483 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.249.216 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds like we're safe forever! < 1354828307 993088 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-8-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The world's first commercial nuclear power plant is in the next county over from here < 1354828340 636130 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : hm how do I identify a Church numeral in order to print its value, I should probably know this < 1354828357 900301 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought i did that a while ago. < 1354828360 417991 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: which reactor is that? < 1354828383 991875 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but for which esolang... < 1354828419 299903 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: the B reactor at "Site W" < 1354828438 493482 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.249.216 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Answer I came up with was "have the interpreter evaluate it with args add1 and 0, then print the result < 1354828441 530978 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, apparently that was the first full scale reactor < 1354828443 726521 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.249.216 PRIVMSG #esoteric :" < 1354828458 114721 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it was http://esolangs.org/wiki/Real_Fast_Nora%27s_Hair_Salon_3:_Shear_Disaster_Download < 1354828462 702973 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-8-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1354828475 698980 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: well yeah that was about what i did < 1354828480 912172 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.249.216 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That will at least give the right answer for Church numerals and mumblesomething for other functions < 1354828491 261397 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-8-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of my better esolangs < 1354828496 571606 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :good name too < 1354828501 154654 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.249.216 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay cool, if I am like oerjan I am probably correct :-) < 1354828562 410923 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Hanford site? < 1354828566 335404 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1354828584 964440 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun < 1354828598 779632 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've never been there. aaaand i don't think they exactly offer tours < 1354828599 600935 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :those old manhattan project facilities are all super contaminated < 1354828609 346378 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because they didn't really give a shit about safety or the environment back then < 1354828618 544124 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did they even know how to give a shit about it yet? < 1354828638 241296 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the MIT reactor is almost as old (well, about 10 years younger) but is in the middle of a dense metropolitan area and so i guess they had to be more careful < 1354828638 497042 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like that would have been before they did those "set off a nuke, make soldiers sit nearby, see if they throw up" experiments < 1354828642 938474 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1354828665 597850 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm imagining an mit building constructed entirely out of lead < 1354828716 146324 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.249.216 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Church numerals as de Bruijn indices?!? You're a madman! < 1354828731 115722 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-8-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, I just write the esolang < 1354828735 242984 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is pretty boring looking on the outside < 1354828735 480878 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-8-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have to use it < 1354828736 311122 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.wgbh.org/imageassets/0321reactor.jpg < 1354828758 48229 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-8-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was meant to be BIT-sans-brackets < 1354828761 447094 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looks like a water tower... < 1354828767 956598 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is probably what they modeled it after < 1354828783 875002 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1354828837 96952 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of the things they use it for is radiation therapy for cancer < 1354828843 808298 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they produce isotopes for medical use < 1354828851 937216 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they also actually perform experimental therapies at the reactor < 1354828857 662901 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, what < 1354828865 101390 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they move patients to a reactor? < 1354828879 713092 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah for http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boron_neutron_capture_therapy < 1354828892 271819 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that dude in the pic looks like a cyborg < 1354828892 799477 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they give you a drug with a bunch of boron in it, that preferentially binds to cancer cells < 1354828903 15144 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then they take you to the reactor and put your head right up against the core and open a little window < 1354828908 66175 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you get mucho neutrons in the brain < 1354828909 594446 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :getting their brain scanned with science and radiation < 1354828914 507109 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they make the boron radioactive < 1354828916 178999 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good god < 1354828918 799974 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :turning it into neutrons < 1354828921 899201 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty sure this is how science works?? < 1354828928 586929 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1354828938 275678 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is one of those "well, he already *has* cancer" type of therapies < 1354828940 105361 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do like the idea of just shoving people into a nuclear reactor as treatment < 1354828954 44444 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1354828955 419033 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-8-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, you're thinking of magix < 1354828958 981444 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-8-153.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*c < 1354828961 125717 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"well, we destroyed the cancer. also everything else" < 1354828965 834967 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :radiotherapy always makes me remember what i've read from Goiânia now < 1354828970 433626 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i'm unreasonably spooked by it < 1354829010 909173 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.249.216 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Just fall into a nuclear reactor and hope for the best" < 1354829060 417198 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if you get free radiotherapy if you work as a nuke diver < 1354829203 613075 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354829226 456646 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : That will at least give the right answer for Church numerals and mumblesomething for other functions <-- my implementation (the churchToInt function in that page) does what i could to make sure it errors out on anything not a church numeral, by making anything that shouldn't pass on an annotated number value clear it to Nothing. < 1354829312 775203 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :where's all this then < 1354829322 175981 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and by using v as the actual combinator used when you try to use a number as a function, this makes it useless for everything functional. < 1354829420 150552 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :21:20:57: wow, what < 1354829420 262487 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :21:21:05: they move patients to a reactor? < 1354829429 79436 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1354829444 202098 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :back in the 80s they used the particle accelerator at lawrence berkeley labs for cancer treatment < 1354829483 892020 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it involved timing particle decays so they dumped all the energy in the tumour < 1354829501 404230 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.249.216 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: my Haskell is not great but I will try to understand your approach :-) < 1354829516 696573 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.249.216 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, haha that is awesome < 1354829553 169173 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :markus hess also tampered with the control computers at some point, which is why i know that < 1354829563 914984 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.249.216 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: oh, tswett and myself want to know about continuous chess? < 1354829570 287855 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1354829621 795390 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right uh the gist of it is that for a board you have [0,8]^2 < 1354829643 902598 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and your pieces are a collection of disjoint subsets of that < 1354829666 775368 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the rules for moving are that < 1354829676 526184 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354829688 63376 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a) the piece's measure must be conserved < 1354829726 297346 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-43-239.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1354829731 924489 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b) the displacement of the centroid of the piece must correspond to a legal chess move for that piece < 1354829746 610105 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-43-239.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1354829746 681475 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1354829771 646096 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.249.216 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1354829777 623307 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a 'move' is a function f that satisfies these properties, also) < 1354829813 880688 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :c) for all x in the piece being moved, there may not be any other piece along the line from x to f(x) < 1354829829 750758 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the exceptions to c) are that knight may move through other piece of your colour < 1354829858 923891 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that you can move through opposing piece if there is some other piece being moved to its location < 1354829925 61604 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, is time continuous too? < 1354829931 534512 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1354829933 222030 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-8-153.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1354829935 924456 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lame < 1354829947 209056 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1354829973 222594 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.249.216 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How does capturing proceed? < 1354829973 811750 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :still better than the other crap being proposed during the chess variant fad < 1354829985 972665 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: we started to make time continuous < 1354829990 716779 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it kind of went badly < 1354829997 546192 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :persevere! < 1354830003 4288 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight, you capture opposing piece if you map your piece onto it < 1354830020 578262 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the second exception to c) is basically "you can move through opposing piece that you've captured" < 1354830031 281631 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-8-153.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354830058 235545 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.249.216 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Exactly onto it? Do all pieces have the same measure? < 1354830071 452881 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :initially, yes < 1354830088 841805 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if there's even alternating games with continuous time in math < 1354830092 772640 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :because that sounds insane < 1354830102 312765 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the measure of a captured piece obviously decreases < 1354830135 320142 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :additional challenges: incorporate castling and promotion into this < 1354830171 677064 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Dynamic noncooperative game theory" hm yes this sounds reasonable < 1354830186 45819 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thompson's lamp: the game < 1354830204 698372 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not even thompson's lamp < 1354830217 32937 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thompson's lamp at least only switches countably many times < 1354830217 131096 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant if you made it continuous-time < 1354830221 912174 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is one way you could do it < 1354830225 886059 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sort of < 1354830246 452679 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although is Q continuous? < 1354830247 667009 :greyooze!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-36-10.dab.02.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354830264 59854 :xDEADCA7!~ared@host53-188-dynamic.8-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1354830270 20855 :greyooze!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-36-10.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: erm as I was saying: < 1354830278 834127 :greyooze!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-36-10.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do all pieces have the same measure? < 1354830286 332057 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : but the measure of a captured piece obviously decreases < 1354830286 424994 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : additional challenges: incorporate castling and promotion into this < 1354830291 972326 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :21:41:11 initially, yes < 1354830292 837270 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1354830310 528577 :greyooze!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-36-10.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh so you can capture *part* of a piece, interesting < 1354830318 958549 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1354830336 72619 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh also < 1354830340 707213 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.249.216 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1354830345 41044 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1354830345 112432 :greyooze!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-36-10.dab.02.net NICK :GreyKnight < 1354830356 811011 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-36-10.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, get out! < 1354830357 855401 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i actually had it so knight can move through any piece whatsoever, not just friendly < 1354830361 139341 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-36-10.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :never liked him anyway < 1354830382 498817 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can use it to capture parts of enemy piece < 1354830445 89857 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-36-10.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :could you describe again the rule about moving through an enemy piece, not sure I got that bit < 1354830469 654217 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't move through enemy piece unless you're also capturing it in the same move < 1354830544 432922 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-36-10.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, so your destination has to partly overlap the enemy piece in question < 1354830563 404814 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1354830655 634156 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1354830656 347977 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-36-10.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is check/mate the obvious extension, or anything fancy about it? < 1354830706 642841 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-36-10.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(obvious extension being "as long as part of the king would escape the threatened capture you're fine, otherwise you're in check") < 1354830709 380852 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the obvious extension, which i'm fairly sure also makes it undecidable to work out who's won a general match < 1354830727 826260 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-36-10.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I write it explicitly as it may not be as obvious as I thought) < 1354830733 240102 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1354830832 231233 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-36-10.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can a single piece split into N disjoint parts (as long as total measure is preserved)? The wording was a bit unclear < 1354830844 568266 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, it can < 1354830877 318826 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the 'disjoint subsets' bit just means you can't have pieces overlapping < 1354830877 709458 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no nonmeasurable pieces, huh. sad < 1354830897 641631 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: well everything is undecidable < 1354830901 250583 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :since the functions can be uncomputable < 1354830942 741890 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-36-10.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how we would even *start* a match never mind finish one ;-) < 1354830985 349220 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, even if you restrict it to computable functions though < 1354831102 172083 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :might restrict to polygonal pieces < 1354831107 389591 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight, me and oko played like 2 matches with a 3x3 board and just kings in opposite corners once < 1354831110 527563 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(what do you mean, BORING?) < 1354831199 931460 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least, connected < 1354831241 87236 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :convex polygons would still give you a weird amoeba chess < 1354831257 662057 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-36-10.dab.02.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1354831343 914180 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess strategies in continuous games are basically solutions to first order differential equations < 1354831364 735112 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :because what you do next (your derivative) depends on the other guy's state < 1354831365 722884 :augur_!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1354831368 611998 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-36-6.dab.02.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354831368 695146 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-36-6.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*dramatic sigh* < 1354831371 77255 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and vice versa < 1354831397 186766 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1354831592 192174 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1354831655 185115 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1354831683 594312 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-36-6.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fractran is awesome :-) < 1354831780 514966 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: Poulet! < 1354832194 946566 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok, augh don't talk about differential equations < 1354832237 922467 :SingingBoyo!~SingingBo@d173-180-176-35.bchsia.telus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354832307 890062 :xDEADCA7!~ared@host53-188-dynamic.8-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it QUIT :Quit: Sto andando via < 1354832563 172647 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354832760 790056 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-36-6.dab.02.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1354832953 59350 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-36-6.dab.02.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354832961 710956 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-8-153.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1354834009 293515 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354834058 571665 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1354834069 435727 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354834151 765197 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@64.31.59.246 PART :#esoteric < 1354834293 36734 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1354834308 747618 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-36-6.dab.02.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1354834339 619778 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1354834392 966664 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1354834431 556613 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1354834525 969775 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-36-7.dab.02.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354834764 457076 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1354834791 626531 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-43-239.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1354834791 699930 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-43-239.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1354834791 700071 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1354834894 861988 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-36-7.dab.02.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1354835152 511771 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-36-9.dab.02.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354836534 167236 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1354836579 285780 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1354837905 401313 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1354838149 249441 :greyooze!~GK@dab-ell1-h-1-5.dab.02.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354838244 660668 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-36-9.dab.02.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1354838248 619365 :greyooze!~GK@dab-ell1-h-1-5.dab.02.net NICK :GreyKnight < 1354838314 741286 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-ell1-h-1-5.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :question < 1354838377 286583 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-ell1-h-1-5.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does fungot's funge code go all the way up to handling the IRC protocol, or is there a separate IRC layer that just passes lines down/up? < 1354838377 754808 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: it had the usual arithmetic operators and all! < 1354838390 977599 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-ell1-h-1-5.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't say! < 1354838464 629716 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i vaguely seem to recall it uses the actual socket fingerprint for funge-98 < 1354838489 613876 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not even netcat < 1354838529 108810 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Befunge is easily the best general-purpose programming language. < 1354838529 450642 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't read the code myself, mind you < 1354838559 633693 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^source < 1354838559 989306 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://git.zem.fi/fungot/blob/HEAD:/fungot.b98 < 1354838593 633991 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah the "KCOS" must be it < 1354838639 576293 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: it handles the sockets, even < 1354838687 584690 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-ell1-h-1-5.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :detroppus ton KCOS, I like this language ;-) < 1354838694 786267 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-ell1-h-1-5.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, that is pretty cool < 1354838745 930272 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: line 105 is also pretty clear < 1354838813 221620 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-ell1-h-1-5.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :line 153 there has a fnord and a big triangle :-) < 1354838818 621040 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-ell1-h-1-5.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoever wrote that needs either a medal or to be committed < 1354838822 933275 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a 0gnirts or whatever they're called < 1354838827 334823 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHY NOT BOTH < 1354838843 622911 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi oerjan < 1354838855 354219 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-ell1-h-1-5.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was about to suggest both! < 1354838855 650654 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Øgnirts < 1354838869 537571 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: ("whoever wrote that" is always fizzie) < 1354838964 56162 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-ell1-h-1-5.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie wrote ALL the programs < 1354838976 379094 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the rather literal "channels" that move the IP about < 1354838980 754241 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: i think the fnord may be part of fungot's autobabbling code, it has certain very common words (actually mostly punctuation and smileys) built into the code < 1354838981 211367 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: say a list of the commands? < 1354839000 718032 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :interestingly, that triggers a bug in the darwin style < 1354839004 739178 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style darwin < 1354839005 53457 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: darwin (Books by Charles Darwin -- you know, that evilution guy) < 1354839013 68550 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: please demonstrate < 1354839013 931420 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: proceeding northward,/ quantity on an equal number :) times to/ fnord < 1354839030 645201 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: elaborate < 1354839031 269582 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: i am now going to captain fitz-roy, october, 12th and 13th 1867. < 1354839080 529968 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: say hi to him from me < 1354839080 998977 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: table 4.24.4. illegitimate union: 52: 0. < 1354839186 888043 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that ":)" should actually be "of" and "/" is probably also wrong, maybe "the" < 1354839238 307332 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354839239 749106 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically because darwin didn't actually use smileys or that other punctuation, some tables got indexed wrong < 1354839252 385329 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is my vague understanding < 1354839270 317126 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-ell1-h-1-5.dab.02.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1354839276 347814 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :HOW RUDE < 1354839307 207387 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1354839428 292631 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-ell1-h-1-5.dab.02.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354839474 940756 :sirdancealot7!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1354839532 371386 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: I WAS TALKING TO YOU < 1354839539 898321 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-ell1-h-1-5.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry :< < 1354839576 5848 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-ell1-h-1-5.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :last was yeah, the triangle seems to be applying the punctuation/smilies < 1354839591 841319 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't you DARE accidentally lose connection when I'm talking to you! < 1354839593 238121 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :never saw that < 1354839603 870313 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/lose/losing/ < 1354839606 759496 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : fizzie wrote ALL the programs < 1354839661 17726 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: logs are in the topic :P < 1354839676 199204 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :In a less shady URL than before < 1354839705 708609 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-ell1-h-1-5.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was also wondering why the fnord is split into two strings < 1354839717 993727 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably to allow the IP to travel between the parts < 1354839719 531132 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that's strange < 1354839743 899949 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm yes there's a tall path there < 1354839826 91374 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the definition of g? < 1354839855 868923 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :pop x and y, then grab (x,y) in fungespace and push the value to the stack, or something? < 1354839865 479334 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like that < 1354839891 361354 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :p is the opposite < 1354839942 996218 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :punctuation is handled specially because it has different spacing < 1354840016 330120 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't get how something enters the triangle though < 1354840043 341532 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think j is a command that skips a specific distance ahead < 1354840050 490992 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(jumps, even) < 1354840062 86972 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1354840156 842342 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how there's just comments sprinkled around the code < 1354840203 870031 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::98 +`#v_ probably tests if the value is less than 17, so that the triangle is only used for values less than that < 1354840289 313559 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-ell1-h-1-5.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote ais523 < 1354840289 470711 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No quotes match. Have you considered trying to match wits with a rutabaga? < 1354840295 13070 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-ell1-h-1-5.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph < 1354840317 31766 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1354840328 216757 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :55) What else is there to vim besides editing commands? < 1354840328 648058 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls bin < 1354840332 676246 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​? \ @ \ No \ WELCOME \ WeLcOmE \ addquote \ addquotee \ allquotes \ anonlog \ calc \ define \ delquote \ delquotee \ etymology \ forget \ fortune \ frink \ fuck \ google \ hatesgeo \ hi \ joustreport \ jousturl \ json \ k \ karma \ karma+ \ karma- \ learn \ log \ logurl \ macro \ maketext \ marco \ paste \ pastefortunes \ pastekarma \ pastelog \ pastelogs \ pastenquotes \ pastequotes \ pastewisdom \ pastlog \ ping < 1354840344 811449 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote ais523 < 1354840347 929637 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :27) after all, what are DVD players for? \ 79) so a.b.c.d.e.f.g.h.i.j.k.com might be self-relative, but a.b.c.d.e.f.g.h.i.j.k.l.com always means a.b.c.d.e.f.g.h.i.j.k.l.com.? \ 80) let's put that in the HackEgo quotes files, just to completely mystify anyone who looks back along them in the future \ 87) (still, whatever possessed anyone to invent the N-Gage?) \ 88) theory: < 1354840370 457426 :ifnspifn!~ifnspifn@184.90.25.102 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354840388 37766 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure ais523 has spent any significant time in #haskell < 1354840401 426419 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey oerjan can you help me simplify (a-x)(b-x)...(z-x)? < 1354840415 795731 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen: 0 yw < 1354840421 544971 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh you're fast < 1354840424 753127 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that rather simplified already? < 1354840426 893831 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(old chestnut is old) < 1354840451 813976 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote FireFly < 1354840454 841744 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :60) * oerjan swats FireFly since he's easier to hit -----### Meh * FireFly dies < 1354840467 961021 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-ell1-h-1-5.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :vim is a terrible editor, it doesn't even come with its own builtin psychoanalyst! < 1354840498 554701 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`@ < 1354840501 967293 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1354840510 635025 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-ell1-h-1-5.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 88 < 1354840513 771245 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :88) theory: some amused deity is making the laws of physics up as they go along < 1354840520 189259 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`@ `ls `run rev < 1354840523 191163 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't exec "`run": No such file or directory at /hackenv/bin/@ line 2. \ `ls: < 1354840610 377375 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`@ FireFly echo That's not how `@ works < 1354840613 547863 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: That's not how `@ works < 1354840683 239167 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`@ oerjan I just naively guessed based on the little I know about Lambdabot's @@ < 1354840685 798017 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't exec "I": No such file or directory at /hackenv/bin/@ line 2. \ oerjan: < 1354840690 33736 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, + echo < 1354840724 173101 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi FireFly < 1354840736 413002 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Enjoying the lenses? < 1354840767 678065 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have two in front of my eyes at the moment < 1354840782 563249 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and two more inside them < 1354840791 298108 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-ell1-h-1-5.dab.02.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1354840838 553574 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1354840852 428932 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm rather enjoying them; they simplify my life a great deal < 1354840885 556029 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess you do have the advantage of redundancy < 1354840888 940602 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you talking about those inside? < 1354840913 847532 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah i'm sure those only complicate life < 1354840937 916035 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-ell1-h-1-2.dab.02.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354841018 240187 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I just started watching the walking dead and I have this weird feeling < 1354841037 15113 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hear it's crap < 1354841043 83746 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no I like it a lot < 1354841049 524045 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it was only the first episode < 1354841051 719534 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I like zombies < 1354841054 998771 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1354841087 134141 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so far it isn't full of the stereotypes you see in *every* zombie film < 1354841106 532530 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well apart from the fact that the streets are full of zombies but that's kind of the idea < 1354841108 100062 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the `word on the street' is that it fairly quickly degenerates into a cavalcade of "which character will become an asshole for the sole purpose of creating a problem for this episode?!" < 1354841120 905995 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahah < 1354841127 859752 :sirdancealot7!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1354841131 230388 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well there aren't so many characters yet < 1354841136 883582 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not counting the dead ones) < 1354841159 282040 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also there was something about the showrunner firing the other writers and driving the programme off a cliff at the start of the second season < 1354841182 141638 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :at the same time it has a proper dose of suspense and stuff, and at the same time it isn't really like a "horror movie" < 1354841236 402596 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaaanyway I'll watch a second episode before I make my opinion < 1354841263 746382 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've heard nothing but praise for the game though, fwiw < 1354841311 880409 :sirdancealot7!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1354841374 444594 :sirdancealot7!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1354841432 125826 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-ell1-h-1-2.dab.02.net QUIT :Quit: zzz < 1354842464 342325 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :who changed youtube behind my back < 1354842495 788263 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: They had a big discussion/vote in the comments section of every video! < 1354842495 897666 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not me! < 1354842499 648285 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :MAYBE YOU SHOULD HAVE PARTICIPATED < 1354842549 451074 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :google appears to have looked at facebook's ui and said "i want some of that" < 1354843064 882029 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently los angeles has this form of weather where it rains and also the framerate gets really bad < 1354843085 767279 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :framerain < 1354843092 836393 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Should I get a FREE MEGABUS TICKET to Los Angeles? < 1354843187 574048 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah megabus is running in CA again < 1354843214 612150 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could also get a FREE MEGABUS TICKET NYC <-> BOS < 1354843217 782721 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or apparently anywhere else. < 1354843222 171565 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1354843228 583922 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :promotion code TRYMEGABUS < 1354843232 796063 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :jan 9 to feb 28 < 1354843240 22172 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: can you explain this I,I thing shachaf does to me < 1354843240 744678 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1354843250 298217 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it means "i have no point, i just like saying" < 1354843256 386963 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's an owl face. < 1354843260 607253 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :used to prefix a statement which is not meant to be entirely serious < 1354843260 687381 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but what is the etymology < 1354843262 780851 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or it's an owl face < 1354843268 439894 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :An owl wearing glasses. < 1354843276 317374 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the etymology is that phrase which has the form "i ..., i ..." < 1354843288 660254 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i, even i, can play dead < 1354843314 215096 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"why was h afraid of i" < 1354843326 469639 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: that is a really fucking dumb etymology < 1354843330 491989 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should feel bad < 1354843335 34560 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1354843338 94610 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a fair point < 1354843346 423045 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but have you considered eating a dick instead < 1354843378 268408 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"why was ε afraid of ζ" < 1354843421 411801 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because zeta eta leta? < 1354843435 954027 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ζηθ < 1354843525 485752 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ate a... theatre? < 1354843537 54975 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :theta < 1354843544 228922 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :theatres, so yummy < 1354843548 771821 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i assumed there was more pun to it < 1354843558 596146 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's as much of a pun as 7 8 9 < 1354843581 753159 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :o, mega pun < 1354843630 387213 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at least a beta laugh < 1354843734 707863 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess iota stop < 1354843875 61486 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote oerjan < 1354843875 257121 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan says: i only do impractical things < 1354843897 659727 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run while true; do quote; done | grep oerjan | head -n1 < 1354843930 357497 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: /hackenv/bin/quote: No such file or directory \ bash: /hackenv/bin/quote: No such file or directory \ bash: /hackenv/bin/quote: No such file or directory \ bash: /hackenv/bin/quote: No such file or directory \ bash: /hackenv/bin/quote: No such file or directory \ bash: /hackenv/bin/quote: No such file or directory \ bash: /hackenv/bin/quote: No such file or directory \ bash: /hackenv/bin/quote: No such file or < 1354843952 73945 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls bin/quote < 1354843955 61020 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/quote < 1354843958 418615 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run while true; do bin/quote; done | grep oerjan | head -n1 < 1354843991 555773 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :nl: quotes: No such file or directory \ bash: bin/quote: No such file or directory \ bash: bin/quote: No such file or directory \ bash: bin/quote: No such file or directory \ bash: bin/quote: No such file or directory \ bash: bin/quote: No such file or directory \ bash: bin/quote: No such file or directory \ bash: bin/quote: No such file or directory \ bash: bin/quote: No such file or directory \ bash: bin/quote: < 1354844000 419199 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1354844003 377915 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :523) I'm sacrificing the animals, then I'm going to bed. < 1354844007 553786 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1354844020 686335 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run for i in 1 2; do quote; done < 1354844024 191725 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :145) "Europe is the national anthem of the Republic of Kosovo." alise: I I was going to say something then your last line floored me \ 410) No nasty sounds for a while now. Going to turn off and on and see if the numbers get worse. < 1354844053 690222 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run for i in `seq 1 2`; do quote; done < 1354844056 940634 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :6) what, you mean that wasn't your real name? Gosh, I guess it is. I never realized that. \ 687) elliott: Back in my day, I didn't have to walk with a cane, but I couldn't shake it at kids on my lawn either! < 1354844103 827296 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run for i in `seq 1 100`; do quote; done | grep oerjan | head -n1 < 1354844131 306046 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :20) In an alternate universe, ehird has taste < 1354844157 610842 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run while true; do quote; done | grep oerjan | head -n1 < 1354844190 530486 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: /hackenv/bin/quote: No such file or directory \ bash: /hackenv/bin/quote: No such file or directory \ bash: /hackenv/bin/quote: No such file or directory \ bash: /hackenv/bin/quote: No such file or directory \ bash: /hackenv/bin/quote: No such file or directory \ bash: /hackenv/bin/quote: No such file or directory \ bash: /hackenv/bin/quote: No such file or directory \ bash: /hackenv/bin/quote: No such file or < 1354844199 112831 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run quote oerjan | shuffle | head -n1 < 1354844202 624221 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: shuffle: command not found < 1354844208 474250 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run quote oerjan | shuf | head -n1 < 1354844211 746715 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :702) oerjan: Hey, what's your country code for telephonistic dialling from the outside world? fizzie: +47 oerjan: Ooh, you're, like, right next to Sweden there. I... guess you are geographically, too. < 1354844213 758807 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: help < 1354844217 977779 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is it giving that error? < 1354844224 563360 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :while true; do shuffle; sleep 86400; done < 1354844252 430459 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run while true; do quote; done < 1354844256 71727 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :304) destroying a local copy of the world is kind of like raping a robochick with a shovel tho \ 585) but i guess (x + y)^n = (x^2 + 2xy + y^2)(x^2 + 2xy + y^2)...(x^2 + 2xy + y^2) if n is even, (x + y)^n = (x^2 + 2xy + y^2)(x^2 + 2xy + y^2)...(x^2 + 2xy + y^2)(x + y) is as good a fundamental theorem as any \ 300) i understand that people had to use twitter and facebook before irc was < 1354844274 122814 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run while true; do quote; done | grep oerjan < 1354844276 287212 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`delquote 304 < 1354844280 454498 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: do you shuffle? < 1354844280 945224 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: :( floreat fnord." < 1354844282 442655 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*poof* destroying a local copy of the world is kind of like raping a robochick with a shovel tho < 1354844283 313803 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :piggybacking the quote game on the for loops < 1354844292 677137 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1354844295 503266 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :762) the killers dancer in my c*** < 1354844300 69429 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1354844303 833074 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :324) my most fresh dream is one where I'm at a soup contest and a chicken really wants to participate but he's disqualified so he becomes the judge. when all the soups are done and he's ready to taste them he just stares at the soup and then I become the chicken and I really want to make soup < 1354844306 945616 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: /hackenv/bin/quote: No such file or directory \ bash: /hackenv/bin/quote: No such file or directory \ bash: /hackenv/bin/quote: No such file or directory \ bash: /hackenv/bin/quote: No such file or directory \ bash: /hackenv/bin/quote: No such file or directory \ bash: /hackenv/bin/quote: No such file or directory \ bash: /hackenv/bin/quote: No such file or directory \ bash: /hackenv/bin/quote: No such file or < 1354844307 446653 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you have to do five btw < 1354844321 471677 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1354844324 315795 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :280) BYE dbc WE'LL BE SURE TO ACCIDENTALLY MENTION YOUR NICK OFTEN < 1354844325 801761 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1354844328 311483 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :94) Darn, now I can't acknowledge the reference you were making. < 1354844330 432674 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1354844333 954837 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :785) STOP CAPITALIZING It's making me feel weird the I has to be capitilized its proper grammer < 1354844347 950655 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo 94 < 1354844348 732804 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : 20 4 * * * /usr/bin/smoke weed < 1354844359 286574 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it would be 20 16 in practice < 1354844363 779514 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though that's not raelly specified. < 1354844456 490006 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :both are acceptable < 1354844486 833257 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/quote < 1354844489 848422 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ allquotes | if [ "$1" ]; then \ if expr "$1" + 0 >/dev/null 2>&1; then \ sed "$1q;d" \ else \ grep -P -i -- "$1" \ fi \ else shuf -n 1; fi < 1354844497 634422 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: come on you have to come to a decision < 1354844498 765845 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and delete one < 1354844502 593457 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's how it works ! < 1354844516 776598 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no binary named `smoke` in all of debian! < 1354844518 206976 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: o rly < 1354844519 929864 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/allquotes < 1354844522 691780 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ nl -w 1 -s ') ' quotes < 1354844541 822592 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: yes < 1354844555 552087 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`delquote 762 < 1354844559 148752 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*poof* the killers dancer in my c*** < 1354844563 171706 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :RIP < 1354844571 969501 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pour one out for 762 < 1354844593 836583 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one was pretty funny at the time but admittedly it loses something without context < 1354844623 776526 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1354844624 470364 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1354844624 874312 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1354844625 185218 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1354844625 316083 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1354844627 610617 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1354844630 127689 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"oopse" < 1354844637 235074 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :207) [CTCP] Received CTCP-ERRMSG reply from clog: unknown CTCP: ERRMSG. < 1354844640 97526 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :26) ehird: There is no h in "honour" < 1354844685 222167 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :762) hang on I have bright idea navajo to f me 1 in 3 people < 1354844688 908708 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :747) I think we are sort of this insane, and also sort of not as much as insane, and also sort of a bit more insane than that, and also somewhat more various other thing at various times whatever you are discussing at that time < 1354844690 916336 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :647) characters in tv series should learn to check the timestamp before they get their hopes up... *no chance* this will work at 10 minutes into the episode < 1354844692 870464 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :357) I hope type inference isn't difficult < 1354844763 786842 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :WINE is sort of like a dancing bear < 1354844794 713611 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION thinks kmc may have had too much
< 1354844808 324801 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the marvel is not that the bear dances well, but that he dances at all < 1354844923 999582 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbl, playing grand theft auto as long as i hit enter at just the right time < 1354844937 973980 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it is annoying when nobody will give you tips on bear dancing because you pirated the bear this analogy is falling apart rapidly < 1354844964 301512 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you wouldn't download a bear? < 1354844977 582686 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or go to the toilet in its helmet < 1354845315 784218 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1354845346 127722 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1354846188 389532 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric : you wouldn't download a bear? // what kind of bear are we talking about < 1354846209 559123 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bear < 1354846225 901659 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Insufficient disambiguation. < 1354846288 351446 :ifnspifn!~ifnspifn@184.90.25.102 QUIT :Quit: ifnspifn < 1354846299 470941 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bear < 1354846463 38850 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-184-186.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354846527 716114 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote edwardk unsafeCoerce < 1354846527 872404 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :edwardk says: this breaks my previous record of 6 unsafeCoerce's in a line < 1354846561 525303 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(HWN is out) < 1354846580 845018 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1354847732 697740 :SingingBoyo!~SingingBo@d173-180-176-35.bchsia.telus.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1354847883 160747 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1354847890 167984 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!malbolge http://matthias-ernst.eu/malbolge/quine.mb < 1354847896 183952 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bt&A@?>=<;49876543210/.-,+*)('&%$#"!~}|=<;k9876543Q10p.o,+*)('&%$#"!~}vuz]xwvutsrkpSnmlkjihgfeH]baZ_XWV[ZSXW:9TSRQJONMLEJCHGFED'&A@?>7<}{{yywwuussqqoommkki'~g$#"y~a|{zyxwvutsVkpohmfkjihafedGFa`_^]\>><<::8866442200..,HGF?('BA@?>=<;:9876543,10/.o,+*)('&%e#"!b}v{zyxwvotslqponQlejihgJ_dcba`CX]\[ZY=~;:z276w43s10/p-,l$)(i&%e#"!b}|^tyx[vutVrqTonmOkjMKgfe^cFa`_X]\?Z if and [x `mod` n == 0,x /= 0] then '\n':y:acc else y:acc) [] $ zip [0..] string < 1354905321 939177 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.172 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354905332 18423 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> foldr (\(x,y) acc -> if and [x `mod` 3 == 0,x /= 0] then '\n':y:acc else y:acc) [] $ zip [0..] "Meow, I am a cheesey horse." < 1354905333 519057 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : "Meo\nw, \nI a\nm a\n ch\nees\ney \nhor\nse." < 1354905435 382056 :ifnspifn!~ifnspifn@184.90.25.102 QUIT :Quit: ifnspifn < 1354905442 589040 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-15-7.dab.02.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354905462 507454 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-15-7.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :club sauce, sounds tasty < 1354905541 888176 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-54-21.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1354905560 112894 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-54-21.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1354905560 186132 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1354905694 153427 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-15-7.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"* oerjan is reminded of Gregor's (?) horrible tome of eval puns" <-- I desire to know more < 1354905720 990911 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-15-7.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style ss < 1354905721 303551 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: ss (Shakespeare's writings) < 1354905729 116581 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-15-7.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ohhhh < 1354905736 692174 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1354905742 288012 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-15-7.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wondered what that one was, fungot! < 1354905742 908442 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: whitmore. come, come, < 1354905765 279131 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-15-7.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But fungot, I don't want to go to Whitmore :< < 1354905766 190820 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: 2 you shall haue your will, as't please your lordship, to day the lords you talke of horse and armour? < 1354905777 542734 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-70-177.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354905796 754745 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-15-7.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FR: make it work in iambic pentameter :-3 < 1354905801 16906 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: http://www.cs.purdue.edu/homes/jv/pubs/ecoop11.pdf < 1354905859 58960 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if we collected a list of puns we rejected X-D < 1354905906 143172 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-15-7.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The Eval that Men Do" <-- begin as you mean to continue, I see < 1354905922 603638 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1354905974 467462 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :> intercalate "\n" . chunk 3 $ "Meow, I am a cheesey horse." < 1354905976 333279 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : "Meo\nw, \nI a\nm a\n ch\nees\ney \nhor\nse." < 1354906055 224271 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-15-7.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION tries to figure out a possible use for that output
< 1354906066 436107 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :> intercalate "\n" . chunksOf 3 $ "Meow, I am a cheesey horse." < 1354906068 215062 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : "Meo\nw, \nI a\nm a\n ch\nees\ney \nhor\nse." < 1354906069 471749 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: ^ < 1354906088 212300 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(chunksOf is in Data.List.Split) < 1354906154 402960 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Get with the program: < 1354906179 366582 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> "Meow, I am a cheesey horse."^.folded.chunking 3.to (intercalate "\n") < 1354906181 355212 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `chunking' < 1354906190 604288 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> "Meow, I am a cheesey horse."^.folded.Data.List.Split.Lens.chunking 3.to (intercalate "\n") < 1354906192 112307 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `Data.List.Split.Lens.chunking' < 1354906195 385843 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmph. < 1354906221 965291 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let chunking s l f = coerce . traverse f . Data.List.Split.chunksOf s . toListOf l < 1354906222 687967 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : :8:18: Not in scope: `coerce' < 1354906226 530161 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmph! < 1354906251 46131 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let chunking s l f = traverse f . Data.List.Split.chunksOf s . toListOf l < 1354906253 90450 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined. < 1354906254 94967 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t chunking < 1354906255 313562 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: Alternatively, cabal install lens and go through the above contortions. < 1354906255 386643 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Applicative f => Int -> Getting (Endo [e]) s t e b1 -> ([e] -> f b) -> s -> f [b] < 1354906269 453279 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> "Meow, I am a cheesey horse."^.folded.chunking 3.to (intercalate "\n") < 1354906270 940817 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `GHC.Types.Char' < 1354906271 21193 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : with actual type... < 1354906274 735146 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Hey, these contortions are all lambdabot's fault. < 1354906279 475214 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@undefine < 1354906280 823953 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION gives up.
< 1354906331 442893 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I know, but even your first line feels like contortions for an isolated case. :-P < 1354906338 874213 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I was not entirely serious < 1354906360 527032 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-15-7.dab.02.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1354906364 19858 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wasn't entirely sure. < 1354906438 777200 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION might write it that way in practice, though
< 1354906451 166288 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :since you can stuff other stuff in there if you want < 1354906506 519389 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can do that without lenses, too; it's called function composition. < 1354906571 951172 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-15-7.dab.02.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354906575 697849 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends on your "stuff" < 1354906611 650597 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :admittedly this one is pathological < 1354906614 350792 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-15-7.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: read the paper, I've seen worse punderstorms :-P < 1354906656 594212 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think your "chunking" has incorrect type, but the expression you gave doesn't work with lens-3.7.0.1 regardless. < 1354906661 965654 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Thanks < 1354906674 853680 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :right my chunking is wrong < 1354906694 41296 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the whole expression < 1354906695 305051 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :who cares!! < 1354906700 125708 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-15-7.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? GreyKnight < 1354906705 850710 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: I'm planning on writing a program that outputs ascii graphics < 1354906706 381224 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1354906713 884349 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I need newlines < 1354906714 629838 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-15-7.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aw I'm not famous :< < 1354906724 476425 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? FreeFull < 1354906727 661275 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull is either full of freedom or free of fulldom, we are not sure. \ F.r.e.eFull likes messing around way too much < 1354906744 552623 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-15-7.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? elliott < 1354906747 988051 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott wrote this learn DB, and wrote or improved many of the other commands in this bot. He probably has done other things? < 1354906760 206959 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-15-7.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"complain a lot" ;-) < 1354906776 588420 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric : Gregor: read the paper, I've seen worse punderstorms :-P // that's because you don't have the pile of puns we rejected. < 1354906800 104653 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :should put something about my vicious wiki dictatorship in my entry < 1354906802 273097 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-15-7.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :go on, share a few < 1354906805 489585 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :instill the fear of god into people < 1354906856 814544 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-15-7.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: I was wondering if the particular sentence Deewiant used was something, or maybe he's a Markov device like fungot! < 1354906857 943872 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: fran. for this purpose? lord. by his great authority; which often hath no less than what he found himselfe was apt, and my fnord may call him my master, mr. g. fnord. < 1354906861 677132 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :See no Eval, Hear no Eval, Speak no Eval. The Origin of Eval. True Eval. < 1354906873 786101 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: maybe end it with something like "Does not do anything with the wiki. Ask oerjan about the wiki." < 1354906883 484359 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Root of All Eval < 1354906894 278251 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That was a potential title for the paper, but was rejected for suggesting provenance) < 1354906915 903166 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: hah < 1354906934 882206 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wiki < 1354906938 186815 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The wiki is at http://esolangs.org/wiki < 1354906938 347509 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-15-7.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about "The only thing necessary for eval to succeed is for good researchers to do nothing" < 1354906984 705797 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, that might be the only truthful wisdom in the database < 1354907004 640671 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: Damn, that should've gone into Eval Begone :( < 1354907056 163280 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-15-7.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :repay eval with eval? I suppose that isn't quite the point you want to get across ;-) < 1354907067 827016 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-15-7.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :same for "eval to him who eval thinks" < 1354907126 178094 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-15-7.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I suppose you did give a few valid cases for it in the paper really < 1354907134 640189 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-15-7.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it would have fitted in :-) < 1354907146 412316 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH WELL < 1354907149 409710 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm on to bigger and less punny things. < 1354907177 995202 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-15-7.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aw < 1354907538 836543 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: Repay eval with apply < 1354907567 744869 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-15-7.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION applies a Y-combinator to FreeFull
< 1354907574 984653 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :"While JavaScript provides a few other entry points to code injection, such as setInterval, setTimeout [...]" ← those are provided by DOM, no? < 1354907608 301328 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think `eval` and `Function` are the only ES-specced places where you can inject source code as a string programatically < 1354907615 449769 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: “JavaScript” is not “ECMAScript” < 1354907621 116219 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1354907622 476360 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, fair enough < 1354907648 698057 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Those quotes, really. < 1354907655 435110 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usu. we colloquially use “JavaScript” to mean “that language and suite of libraries sorta kinda implemented by browsers.” < 1354907660 439640 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION never reaches fixed point
< 1354907661 803648 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: DEAL WITH IT < 1354907667 763169 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Seriously. < 1354907673 352536 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-70-177.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about "ActionScript" < 1354907696 737251 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: it's a dialect of the abandoned 4th ed. ECMAScript < 1354907705 237083 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-15-7.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :“ActionScript” < 1354907827 53728 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: „Just for you, I'll start using German quotes.“ < 1354907866 66910 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-15-7.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«I'm French!» < 1354907892 998119 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :»I'm swedish and this is supposedly how we're meant to quote things» < 1354907917 543018 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: wut < 1354907927 255005 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-70-177.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :'I honestly have "no idea" how to "quote" things' < 1354907927 384954 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: That's even worse than "ASCII quotes". < 1354907940 391200 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it is < 1354907948 112561 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: ”Or this.” < 1354907948 269455 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't realise Gregor was one of Those People. < 1354907966 355090 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-70-177.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, he also likes an operating system that currently exists < 1354907967 183332 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C2%BB#Uses huh < 1354907970 993206 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: It all started with diaeresis marks in this channel ;) < 1354907984 39976 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think both »this« and »this» are officially endorsed, then < 1354907987 549737 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :and both are weird < 1354907991 566665 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :– Or this, which is more common at least in Finnish. < 1354908024 505805 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: *diæresis < 1354908028 922037 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: yeah, that's just as ugly < 1354908042 881430 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric : FireFly: ”Or this.” <-- that one, that is < 1354908048 763524 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: More like FNINISH. < 1354908054 871111 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Did you hear fizzie and oklopol were in the same city? < 1354908067 330455 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Yes, you were quite loud about it. < 1354908070 327915 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: FURNISH. < 1354908072 396686 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :VARNISH. < 1354908077 47691 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1354908078 342156 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finland = land of varnish? Confirm for me Deewiant. < 1354908094 364578 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354908096 894046 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-15-7.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :¨Diæresis marks for quotes? Now I've heard everything.¨ < 1354908108 345460 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :X-D < 1354908120 118636 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bravo, sir. < 1354908143 982608 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Well, at least I have a varnished desk, if that counts. < 1354908155 420440 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Sounds like incontrovertible proof for me. < 1354908157 463192 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :To me. < 1354908160 183117 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thing < 1354908163 483277 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :*of me < 1354908168 662253 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-15-7.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow I just found the unicode block at U+1F000, I didn't know this existed < 1354908178 397187 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mahjong tiles? < 1354908206 278335 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :🐐 <(Unicode goat laments your inability to render Unicode goat!) < 1354908282 716467 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :🐃 < 1354908289 208712 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1354908316 213368 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: That's just an ASCII space, that's not interesting at all. < 1354908339 531882 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: OTOH: you're an ASCII space? < 1354908349 850185 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION just saw blank spaces for the previous line. rxvt's fault??
< 1354908351 515443 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe mosh's fault < 1354908362 923244 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also saw nothing, and for Gregor's goat < 1354908371 335468 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p4FDCCE45.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354908376 289719 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't use mosh so maybe it's urxvt. < 1354908383 786246 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't be silly. Everyone uses mosh < 1354908392 550637 :mindlessDrone!~mindlessd@vpn32-136.rz.hs-offenburg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1354908398 948855 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Evidently I'm an ASCII space so I don't count as being part of "everyone". < 1354908451 407931 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-15-7.dab.02.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1354908457 95571 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ASCII spaces are people too??? < 1354908506 825803 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Screw　ASCII　spaces. < 1354908524 208726 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: 🐃 and 🐐 show up as unicode animals for me < 1354908534 146267 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't really see them that well due to font size though < 1354908535 911723 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: IMO: you're a unicode animal? < 1354908552 355591 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which one? < 1354908558 66340 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :All of them < 1354908610 202123 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can mosh turn off Unicode yet? Linux can turn off Unicode. < 1354908635 149076 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask kmc Can mosh turn off Unicode yet? Linux can turn off Unicode. < 1354908635 302526 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1354908754 229993 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :-_- < 1354908754 312021 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1354908759 123373 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1354908759 401839 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott asked 2m 4s ago: Can mosh turn off Unicode yet? Linux can turn off Unicode. < 1354908775 916834 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a good question < 1354908792 792090 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1354908920 825445 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey there's dominos at U+1F030 too < 1354908929 428688 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also: ”⃠ < 1354908934 779860 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :just say no! < 1354909012 753364 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also Mahjong tiles < 1354909048 231470 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my favorite are the emoticons < 1354909056 844276 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: that's how we started off :-P < 1354909060 590406 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :☺ < 1354909063 303113 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :☹ < 1354909072 252469 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1354909078 705753 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :everybody loves them some U+1F63B 😻 < 1354909092 815514 :jdiez!~42@178-33-162-138.kimsufi.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1354909098 448908 :jdiez!~42@178-33-162-138.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello! is +[+ < 1354909105 241601 :jdiez!~42@178-33-162-138.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, +[+] < 1354909108 513914 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :😀 < 1354909110 707331 :jdiez!~42@178-33-162-138.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that an infinite loop in brainfuck? < 1354909121 769154 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-70-177.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Depends on the implementation < 1354909127 742423 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :jdiez: Only if cells don't wraparound < 1354909132 996808 :jdiez!~42@178-33-162-138.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1354909143 276327 :jdiez!~42@178-33-162-138.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it should be regardless of that < 1354909147 711912 :jdiez!~42@178-33-162-138.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's only incrementing the value < 1354909149 759445 :jdiez!~42@178-33-162-138.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :of a single cell < 1354909158 666405 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :jdiez: Yeah, but if the cell overflows, it will eventually be 0 < 1354909158 823433 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :some implementations use modular arithmetic, though. < 1354909169 980490 :jdiez!~42@178-33-162-138.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: ah, okay, mine doesn't < 1354909172 304681 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so 2^32-1 + 1 = 0 or whatever. < 1354909175 420112 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what I meant by wraparound < 1354909181 45306 :jdiez!~42@178-33-162-138.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm working on a dialect of brainfuck that I'm calling spacefuck < 1354909184 100122 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :usually s/32/8/ < 1354909208 928136 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you're using a bf implementation with 32-bit cells, it will take a long time for the loop to terminate < 1354909222 854403 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh god, another BF derivative < 1354909225 967573 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also hi jdiez < 1354909226 485894 :jdiez!~42@178-33-162-138.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, the implementation is in python so it has arbitrary precision < 1354909228 153315 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :⟨Oh, this | is what I was looking for⟩ < 1354909229 998031 :jdiez!~42@178-33-162-138.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey FireFly :D < 1354909235 605791 :jdiez!~42@178-33-162-138.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :freenode is tiny! < 1354909242 805778 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed < 1354909255 928136 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :IRC is a small world < 1354909263 998043 :jdiez!~42@178-33-162-138.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1354909292 145902 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if your BF uses bignums :-o < 1354909311 768543 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: You'll eventually run out of memory, and the loop will terminate then < 1354909314 920269 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :In that case it's not only an infinite loop, but also a memory-hogger :P < 1354909318 472732 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-70-177.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :jdiez, #esoteric and #0x10c-dev have a fair bit of overlap < 1354909321 96368 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :modular arithmetic was good enough for your forefathers, young man < 1354909336 757768 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: more than, say, 5 people? < 1354909349 750795 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shut up mum, you don't understand me ;_; < 1354909349 829121 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :.bf +[] < 1354909359 897583 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :.bf +.[]. < 1354909363 833246 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-70-177.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, somewhere between 1 and 3 < 1354909369 78653 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :.bf +[+.] < 1354909375 33155 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wrong command < 1354909376 77260 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf +[+.] < 1354909376 269300 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : .. !"#$%&'()*+,-./0123456789:;<=>?@ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ[\]^_`abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz{|}~��������������������������������������������������������������������������������� ... < 1354909391 278457 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh. am i going to die in seven days now < 1354909401 500777 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: No, why? < 1354909406 741064 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf +[] < 1354909411 652709 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the inverse video looks spooky < 1354909411 881029 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : ...out of time! < 1354909419 410374 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it take seven days to die? < 1354909423 450833 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spooky? < 1354909434 729565 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1354909445 986059 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1354909461 192649 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : hi < 1354909465 673866 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :☺ < 1354909467 870958 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: It's ^V < 1354909528 195691 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1354909591 497581 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: itz,m whaever iwant!! < 1354909618 911814 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :We should play IRC chess ♖♘♗♕♔♗♘♖ < 1354909634 438893 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :04,01No, it isn't. < 1354909638 299865 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: what's your current conversation style? < 1354909639 412510 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: clar. or else you are that in this vniust diuorce of vs, and make the earth devour her own sweet fnord pluck the keen teeth from the fierce tiger's jaws, and burn, like horse, hound, hog, beare, fire, kill, kill him not! < 1354909656 973782 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1354909657 212861 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack pa qwantz sms speeches ss* wp youtube < 1354909710 207371 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style homestuck < 1354909710 520240 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: homestuck (Homestuck pages 1901-4673) < 1354909713 371785 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Meow < 1354909714 271082 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: what the hell is that? < 1354909730 291518 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :homestuck seems rather mean < 1354909742 71561 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's also somewhat limited. < 1354909743 396601 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, it was a cheesy horse < 1354909744 26019 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: is it a mission critical text document with a velvet gloves. he is simply the best there is. < 1354909789 490488 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does not OCR pictures or desmurfpile Flashes. < 1354909825 19789 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-70-177.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, would you like to play a game? < 1354909825 563999 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: so the dumbest and most far fetched but whatever. you also like to play games sometimes. < 1354909847 979474 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"desmurfpile" < 1354909871 832664 :Gregor!codu@codu.org TOPIC #esoteric :♣ Smurf Pile Club Sauce ♣ http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1354909893 289886 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION zaps Gregor ⚡
< 1354909909 661152 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-70-177.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight is like some sort of futuristic oerjan < 1354909936 25930 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :With a more ambiguous nick >_> < 1354910005 906822 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in what way? 😕 < 1354910008 540537 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Re. blanks instead of Unicode, I think it's the IRC client. I get a nice <0001f410> in another tmux window. < 1354910025 203384 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: "No, except in the sense that it goes into my irc logs and would therefore be used if I were to rebuild the irc style.", to answer your question from a while ago. < 1354910036 557146 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh okay < 1354910039 205952 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Sucks < 1354910041 364152 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is using irssi
< 1354910068 115302 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: Both of our nicks start with the same three characters, so to tab complete if we're both talking you need to type four >: ( < 1354910091 925899 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meow < 1354910105 339909 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p4FDCCE45.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1354910131 124651 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com NICK :FuturisticOerjan < 1354910135 794784 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :*nod* < 1354910137 287737 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Much better. < 1354910140 791547 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or type g and press tab twice, depending on your client. < 1354910149 927423 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :up to twice* < 1354910157 749371 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :glogbot: < 1354910174 319188 :FuturisticOerjan!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how some APL operators can serve as emoticons ⍢ < 1354910206 757510 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like a language I can write in without resorting to browsing through charmap =P < 1354910243 755347 :FuturisticOerjan!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can do that with APL! As long as you have a space cadet keyboard ⍩ < 1354910369 562272 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-70-177.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1354910384 111467 :mindlessDrone!~mindlessd@vpn32-136.rz.hs-offenburg.de PART :#esoteric < 1354910394 965747 :FuturisticOerjan!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless you find that confusing ⍨ < 1354910532 959361 :FuturisticOerjan!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'll be astonished ⍤ — astonished, I say! — ⍥ when you press a button on the keyboard ⌨ and APL comes out. You'll want to kiss it ⍣ < 1354910580 851396 :FuturisticOerjan!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then you can, er, eat a breadstick? ⍡ I guess? < 1354910599 964615 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :ö < 1354910668 391018 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can write ♯ and ♭ with my keyboard < 1354910696 776913 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :xkb ships with an `apl` layout for entering APL characters < 1354910717 919210 :FuturisticOerjan!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want a physical one for Christmas < 1354910722 701339 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: I don't want to switch to it in case I can't switch back < 1354910723 97093 :FuturisticOerjan!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been good, Santa! < 1354910738 162682 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :*.net *.split < 1354910739 698774 :ion!ion@heh.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1354910740 506250 :TodPunk!~Tod@166-70-93-209.ip.xmission.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1354910742 16524 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1354910742 383048 :Sanky!~SankyZNC@unaffiliated/sanky QUIT :*.net *.split < 1354910742 556855 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1354910775 248984 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, tried it out < 1354910780 940686 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's confusing and ctrl doesn't work < 1354910806 345675 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also altgr+character inserts a two-byte non-unicode sequence < 1354910808 555704 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's meant to be used as an alternative layout that you switch to, or something < 1354910988 280100 :FuturisticOerjan!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still don't really understand why I'm a futuristic oerjan < 1354911044 567960 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats FuturisticOerjan ----##
< 1354911057 100944 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-108.elisa.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1354911057 172398 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1354911057 172569 :ion!ion@heh.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1354911057 172657 :TodPunk!~Tod@166-70-93-209.ip.xmission.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1354911057 172734 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1354911057 172809 :Sanky!~SankyZNC@unaffiliated/sanky JOIN :#esoteric < 1354911057 172887 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1354911071 545246 :FuturisticOerjan!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats FireFly ---###
< 1354911092 306683 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ur swat is rong < 1354911119 828988 :FuturisticOerjan!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+101D0 to U+101FF are the Phaistos Disc symbols, that is pretty darn cool when you think about it < 1354911200 790766 :FuturisticOerjan!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats elliott ---###
< 1354911225 965455 :FuturisticOerjan!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm future oerjan, this is how we swat in the future! < 1354911227 976394 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why isn't PETSCII in Unicode? < 1354911276 590684 :FuturisticOerjan!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might be actually, just not as a unified block < 1354911284 545018 :FuturisticOerjan!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm sure you could find most or all of the symbols < 1354911285 525964 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wikipedia says it isn't. < 1354911341 269978 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :𐇐 < 1354911370 334687 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I don't know < 1354911373 705875 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-108.elisa.ee PRIVMSG #esoteric ::o < 1354911385 861821 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :PETSCII is a perfect candidate for one of the things unicode is for < 1354911441 441972 :FuturisticOerjan!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, which ones aren't? < 1354911459 959490 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FuturisticOerjan: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PETSCII#Codepage_layout < 1354911485 145403 :FuturisticOerjan!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Unicode Feather can use ↞ and ⤛ < 1354911595 891734 :FuturisticOerjan!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, looks like the "partway" lines aren't in < 1354911629 70105 :FuturisticOerjan!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this table is a bit hard to use for this purpose < 1354911647 559279 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't seem to have the font required for some of the characters in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PETSCII#Codepage_layout < 1354911674 960405 :FuturisticOerjan!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :some of them are actually being displayed as � < 1354911701 377266 :FuturisticOerjan!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. 0x64 < 1354911871 152701 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1354911880 831101 :FuturisticOerjan!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1354911884 698694 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :433) rest in peace lambdabot???? monqy: it'll probably be back later nap in peace < 1354911946 434091 :ared_!~ared@host222-179-dynamic.2-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1354911954 821454 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.172 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1354912038 793447 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :↞⤛ hm < 1354912113 646836 :FuturisticOerjan!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of the traditional feather methods <<= and =<< < 1354912150 495107 :ared_!~ared@host222-179-dynamic.2-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1354912154 901886 :ared__!~ared@host222-179-dynamic.2-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1354912270 34133 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-70-177.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354912369 821255 :FuturisticOerjan!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1354912373 105016 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :39) Seconds. 30 of them. Did I forget the word? < 1354912413 681995 :FuturisticOerjan!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a list of the quotes somewhere so I can have a gander without spamming? < 1354912413 793741 :ared_!~ared@host253-179-dynamic.2-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1354912424 616096 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-70-177.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastequotes < 1354912428 869037 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.27177 < 1354912466 940762 :FuturisticOerjan!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1354912508 156670 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-142-60-139.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1354912585 16174 :FuturisticOerjan!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 15 < 1354912588 96508 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :15) Finally I have found some actually useful purpose for it. < 1354912593 695037 :FuturisticOerjan!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what research? < 1354912594 887408 :ared__!~ared@host222-179-dynamic.2-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1354912915 877939 :ared_!~ared@host253-179-dynamic.2-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it NICK :xDEADCA7 < 1354913107 774919 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I will have PETSCII compatibility in a computer system I design, regardless of if Unicode has it or not, because the system doesn't use Unicode (some programs might use any encoding they want, including Unicode, but it is not a part of the computer). < 1354913143 106755 :FuturisticOerjan!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I approve < 1354913185 514699 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not only PETSCII but also CP437 and some other things. < 1354913206 655685 :ion!ion@heh.fi QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1354913215 470088 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :CP437 might be the default character set (or maybe not) < 1354913489 411539 :FuturisticOerjan!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no PETSCII must be default! < 1354913536 218994 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-70-177.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, I remember the context to 693 < 1354913541 805178 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-70-177.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 693 < 1354913544 895757 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :693) Incest, the enemy of graph theorists everywhere. < 1354913578 803505 :FuturisticOerjan!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 117 <-- context?! < 1354913581 967100 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1354913585 937126 :FuturisticOerjan!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph < 1354913587 498033 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-70-177.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 117 < 1354913591 286184 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :117) but yeah i'm not exactly comfortable with this stuff, to me it seems like if you can unscrew lightbulbs, why couldn't you see into the future, or through walls as well < 1354913599 893626 :FuturisticOerjan!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hoped he would ignore anything after the number < 1354913609 236534 :FuturisticOerjan!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, these are being run in a shell, aren't they? < 1354913639 461436 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-70-177.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1354913672 708834 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1354913718 840011 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 117 # lessee < 1354913721 637667 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1354913723 994525 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1354913806 748583 :jdiez!~42@178-33-162-138.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/jdiez17/spacefuck < 1354913820 361557 :jdiez!~42@178-33-162-138.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so yeah, I may have implemented Yet Another Brainfuck Dialect < 1354913830 599274 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-70-177.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :jdiez, run before PH hears < 1354913843 487188 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-70-177.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And writes about it on his Tumblr < 1354913847 65214 :jdiez!~42@178-33-162-138.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the hello world is pretty self descriptive! https://github.com/jdiez17/spacefuck/blob/master/examples/hello.sf *giggles* < 1354913852 153762 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-70-177.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And replaces your brain with a brick < 1354913855 986546 :jdiez!~42@178-33-162-138.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: :D < 1354913890 771437 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1354913940 50190 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-70-177.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I swear I've seen something like that before < 1354913942 718736 :FuturisticOerjan!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, I enjoy the blog < 1354913971 794057 :jdiez!~42@178-33-162-138.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: well, there's Whitespace < 1354913974 29791 :jdiez!~42@178-33-162-138.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is similar < 1354913988 93439 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-70-177.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, another brainfuck deriv < 1354914004 53903 :jdiez!~42@178-33-162-138.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1354914006 165470 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :O_o < 1354914022 99278 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION gives the future a warning swat -----###
< 1354914044 785192 :FuturisticOerjan!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I came back to deliver a vital message! < 1354914070 286029 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1354914074 709429 :FuturisticOerjan!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't trust Gregor; he is not what he seems! < 1354914086 624092 :FuturisticOerjan!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com NICK :GreyKnight < 1354914118 673990 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, you mean Gregor actually has fashion sense? < 1354914121 517438 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok who is 86.146.80.103 fess up < 1354914127 977905 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Gregor complained that I was ruining his tab-completion, and somebody claimed I was "like a futuristic oerjan" (I still don't know what this means (yay parentheses))) < 1354914154 632749 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1354914183 300711 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : GreyKnight is like some sort of futuristic oerjan < 1354914210 228942 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :IDK ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1354914223 582644 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-70-177.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :* GreyKnight zaps Gregor ⚡ < 1354914277 481378 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb doesn't think i'm futuristic enough already ;_; < 1354914287 246438 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1354914300 253120 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-70-177.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, you're still using a flyswatter < 1354914308 942664 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: no that's not me. < 1354914311 831026 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-70-177.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's like, 16th century technology < 1354914374 43337 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm it's hard to make an ascii zap that doesn't look like a saw < 1354914374 682501 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats Taneb with a mediaeval swatter ---ᚙ
< 1354914390 435155 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-70-177.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION dies and is reincarnated as Ngevd
< 1354914393 779275 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-70-177.opaltelecom.net NICK :Ngevd < 1354914397 909654 :Ngevd!~nathan@host-84-13-70-177.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sup. < 1354914402 276576 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Inf. < 1354914459 759600 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, taneb is/was ngevd < 1354914475 311106 :Ngevd!~nathan@host-84-13-70-177.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, I'm also atriq < 1354914486 937552 :Ngevd!~nathan@host-84-13-70-177.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And elliott, but you're not allowed to know that < 1354914494 735685 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :so many names for one thing < 1354914497 758121 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, I found a Persian swatter too ---𐏊 < 1354914531 195675 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aka Nathan van Doom, the Evil Mad Typographer < 1354914538 704267 :Ngevd!~nathan@host-84-13-70-177.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1354914542 455241 :Ngevd!~nathan@host-84-13-70-177.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The very same < 1354914600 618322 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: not me < 1354914616 133547 :Ngevd!~nathan@host-84-13-70-177.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nor I < 1354914756 463115 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it is you < 1354914764 674027 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1354914772 832372 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, someone else in hexham then < 1354914815 456970 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1354914847 914248 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1354914852 519603 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it geolocate there? < 1354914883 986956 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ogham has "feather marks" ᚛ and ᚜ < 1354914891 135985 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: traceroute leads into bt.net < 1354914899 904146 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :note that hexham here refers to the whole UK/great britain/british isles/whatchamacallits < 1354914908 585287 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :prolly its Phantom_Hoover < 1354914949 947836 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well reverse dns is btcentralplus < 1354914957 332527 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :my traceroute stops at "ilford" < 1354914966 861785 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: Ogham also has a space mark that Unicode considers whitespace in spite of the fact that it's not white space. Makes for some fun JavaScript ;) < 1354914986 215132 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: mine got to 213.120.163.97 < 1354914994 430985 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :then stalled completely < 1354915007 660261 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean   ? It actually is blank in some fonts :-o < 1354915104 466715 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was 7 jumps after ilford < 1354915113 215587 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: Broken fonts >_> < 1354915138 865109 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, the net result is that this is valid JS: var x = 42; < 1354915146 813596 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And this is true:  42 == 42 < 1354915154 75918 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes, mine also continued with a bunch of ips after ilford, but those aren't informative so I left them out < 1354915170 86986 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds perfect for obfuscation competitions < 1354915174 825210 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^ < 1354915177 123158 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: I wouldn't consider Zeus futuristic < 1354915186 775465 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :make people's heads spin :-D < 1354915187 171783 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/ / /g < 1354915218 259279 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :code standards fun: indent everything with ogham space marks < 1354915222 308320 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can also get some fun results with the zero-width space. < 1354915237 626753 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Put a zero-width space between -- and watch people's heads spin :) < 1354915252 662067 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U1680.pdf has the comment "glyph is blank in 'stemless' style fonts" so I guess they are okay with it < 1354915254 124759 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: that's great. This'll finally put an end to the tabs-vs-spaces debate < 1354915257 489226 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a 4-width space? < 1354915263 211134 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :-​-x; // does nothing < 1354915273 693340 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh you < 1354915345 948815 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/[:space:]/ /g < 1354915372 93337 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let ᒿ = 3 in [2, ᒿ] < 1354915372 203181 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval: recoverEncode: invalid argument (invalid character) < 1354915376 154914 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :,_, < 1354915397 191049 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/[:space:]/unsafeCoerce/g < 1354915446 780957 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be awesome and scary if unicode had a whitespace that looks like unsafeCoerce < 1354915477 257039 :augur_!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354915483 139527 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1354915487 27265 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: It doesn't seem to like ᒿ < 1354915488 606337 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think unicode space characters are legal in haskell identifiers, whether alphanumeric or operators < 1354915500 243906 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+DEADCA75 < 1354915521 140700 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: unsafeCoerceunsafeCoerceunsafeCoerce < 1354915546 527138 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretend that the middle unsafeCoerce is actually whitespace < 1354915550 844867 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that's a letter character though < 1354915568 69412 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ᒿ I mean < 1354915597 198023 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: oh it is? well lambdabot isn't entirely utf-8 clean i guess. < 1354915636 997414 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fromEnum 'å' < 1354915637 152748 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval: recoverEncode: invalid argument (invalid character) < 1354915638 489914 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only Unicode space character that isn't white space is   < 1354915654 804882 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> "å" < 1354915655 38598 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval: recoverEncode: invalid argument (invalid character) < 1354915666 10724 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok it's completely broken there. < 1354915671 474501 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t ?å < 1354915671 630382 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fd:9: commitBuffer: invalid argument (invalid character) < 1354915689 758688 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@echo å < 1354915689 918189 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo; msg:IrcMessage {msgServer = "freenode", msgLBName = "lambdabot", msgPrefix = "oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no", msgCommand = "PRIVMSG", msgParams = ["#esoteric",":@echo \195\165"]} rest:"\ < 1354915689 997090 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :195\165" < 1354915695 611012 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :umph < 1354915703 924874 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl å < 1354915704 81188 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(line 1, column 2): < 1354915704 159078 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unexpected '\165' < 1354915704 237137 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :expecting letter or digit, variable, "(", operator or end of input < 1354915722 801443 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION unexpected ?
< 1354915738 369496 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> "Ørjan" < 1354915738 526273 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval: recoverEncode: invalid argument (invalid character) < 1354915742 876504 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm! < 1354915752 617277 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks like it treats each individual byte as a character for some reason < 1354915755 360701 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe a socket issue < 1354915787 326758 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bytes as characters? In 2012?? < 1354915793 180606 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: Unicode only goes up to 21 bits < 1354915793 418054 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1354915796 860295 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1354915797 100959 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott said 5h 56m 56s ago: star651's languages appear to be esoteric mainly by way of being very poor < 1354915806 781421 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I think I agree with this < 1354915816 994260 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: or possibly lambdabot hasn't been updated on this since ghc got an entirely new system for choosing encoding < 1354915821 290641 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're a rank above Shameful, though < 1354915854 959169 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then, what is rank above Shameful called? < 1354915864 3116 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shameless? < 1354915870 446345 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I actually like that < 1354915883 255940 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: that's okay, it's also not a valid character :v < 1354915928 889977 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> var "\195\165" < 1354915930 246435 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: : hPutChar: invalid argument (invalid character) < 1354915937 736378 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy < 1354915953 95122 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it parsed fine in the input < 1354915956 556546 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but refused to print it? < 1354915975 95722 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suspect it breaks at various stages < 1354915975 772535 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(is \195\165 valid UTF-8 for anything?) < 1354915985 67223 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I'd need to see it in binary. < 1354915988 380602 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assume it's å < 1354915991 813402 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm unwilling to decode octal. < 1354915993 784289 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems like lamdabot is mangling its own input and/or output to guarantee errors < 1354915997 851219 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^asc å < 1354915998 267695 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :195. < 1354916001 252243 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: well it isn't octal because there's a 9 in there < 1354916005 607110 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :lul < 1354916012 333666 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm certainly unwilling to decode decimal. < 1354916034 453516 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :> chr 195 < 1354916035 803335 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : '\195' < 1354916042 386748 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that was boring < 1354916064 352014 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION golfclaps
< 1354916065 553203 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically, if the first byte starts with 110, and the second byte starts with 10, then it's valid UTF-8. < 1354916100 760968 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well 1100 0000 is 192 < 1354916105 620298 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so yeah, valid UTF-8 < 1354916111 116670 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assume lambdabot is such a mess that it cannot agree with itself whether it uses latin1 or utf-8 internally. which means it still works for pure ascii. < 1354916115 980608 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :195 165 is 0xc3 0xa5 is UTF-8 for å < 1354916139 770753 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is \165 decimal 165 or octal 165, though? < 1354916142 505893 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :guessing decimal < 1354916143 953677 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Decimal < 1354916151 66999 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :^hex 165 < 1354916162 536711 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be great if the language determined whether it was decimal or octal by looking for 8s and 9s < 1354916166 272407 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :latin1 was the default before ghc got the new system, now it's your actual locale unless you change it < 1354916167 301832 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :> '\o165' < 1354916167 947735 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :quick, someone define ^hex in terms of ^bf < 1354916168 710528 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : 'u' < 1354916172 51891 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Um, no X-D < 1354916183 927235 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel an esolang coming along, actually < 1354916184 985748 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: De facto, JavaScript does that. < 1354916191 831692 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha, seriously? :) < 1354916213 73476 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: People frequently serialize october and november as 08 and 09, so de facto engines have to accept them X_X < 1354916234 617802 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made that mistake on Wikipedia once, but I don't think the resulting code actually worked < 1354916251 826183 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's probably one of the more weird oddities of JS < 1354916253 818312 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: october and november?? what? < 1354916264 368526 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :strict-mode disables octal escapes completely, right? < 1354916264 540294 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Err < 1354916270 237498 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not very good at months >_> < 1354916271 668787 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: Yes. < 1354916277 409041 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the great thing about that bug is that frequently you don't discover it for several months < 1354916280 546914 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :August and September I meant, of course X-D < 1354916280 620160 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :does "\0199" work in strict-mode? < 1354916282 955602 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: i'm not either, had to think a bit before deciding whether i could be confused or not < 1354916290 728544 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do months in JS start from 1 or 0? < 1354916294 157005 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: \09 doesn't work anywhere, regardless. < 1354916298 186139 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it may actually be september and october < 1354916305 285004 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think they should make the default locale to be ASCII instead of Latin-1, and then, use command-line parameters, environment variables, etc, to change it. < 1354916305 365141 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Oh, I forget *shrugs* < 1354916318 597882 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c { char[] a = "\09"; printf("%d %d", a[0], a[1]); } < 1354916321 929474 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the \& string code in Haskell it is a good idea. < 1354916323 326947 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does not compile. < 1354916326 212461 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1354916331 21636 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Java treats 08 and 09 as decimal too (?) < 1354916334 886152 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was hoping for "0 57" < 1354916338 559291 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does \& do? < 1354916354 450685 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: reference to a subroutine < 1354916361 510534 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the only language where I recognise the syntax at all < 1354916362 344863 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : I feel an esolang coming along, actually <-- tell us more < 1354916368 55935 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Nothing. < 1354916369 815213 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I wanna hear about that X-D < 1354916371 748707 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> "a\&b" < 1354916372 325602 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: It represents an empty string; but can be used like "\555\&6" if you want a six afterward < 1354916373 50759 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : "ab" < 1354916377 443429 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: one where it picked a base for numbers based on their digits, it would probably make some unrepresentable < 1354916387 66533 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: ah, that's nice < 1354916389 297583 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote maximal.munch < 1354916389 532117 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No quotes match. It can only be attributed to human error. < 1354916393 708662 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cyclexa has one of those < 1354916394 422244 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :My first thoughts are that a number is interpreted in the radix of the highest digit + 1. < 1354916394 495695 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could always fall back on unary < 1354916395 850691 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> "\&\&\&" < 1354916396 887265 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : "" < 1354916400 826918 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: yes < 1354916406 232548 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could do all numbers from 0 to 9 < 1354916412 42001 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :9 isn't a number ais523 < 1354916416 496995 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure you could to 10 < 1354916418 19365 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*do 10 < 1354916424 839423 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, I'll use roman numerals to reduce confusion < 1354916427 331096 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :10 = 10 < 1354916432 563527 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could do all numbers from _ to IX < 1354916434 935230 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote OK, I'll use roman numerals to reduce confusion < 1354916435 946984 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure you could do X < 1354916438 391280 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :863) OK, I'll use roman numerals to reduce confusion < 1354916455 942106 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, bleh, you can do anything using binary < 1354916460 460406 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's just ban binary < 1354916464 152771 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :X-D < 1354916468 510405 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, that doesn't help < 1354916469 694413 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :banary < 1354916469 851762 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about unary? :( < 1354916471 361449 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you make it a syntax error < 1354916476 891487 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: that's good for representing 0 < 1354916478 36146 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I wrote RogueVM that base zero means using roman numerals. < 1354916488 560397 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not for much else < 1354916490 348957 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awesome X-D < 1354916496 7894 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you write more 0s, you just get more 0s < 1354916510 194774 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly zero should be represented by the empty string < 1354916514 793716 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, you can still represent anything. < 1354916522 487381 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, I think if binary is a syntax error, I is impossible, II to IX are all possible < 1354916534 895761 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't see a way to do X < 1354916539 921476 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :XI is 15 < 1354916542 944181 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 0^0 < 1354916544 476869 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1 < 1354916550 825577 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: without cheating and using arithmetic < 1354916561 723578 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly, the only operations allowed are digitwise operations < 1354916567 579984 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like what TriINTERCAL has < 1354916569 422023 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arithmetic: Totally cheating. < 1354916587 492949 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and again, it infers the base of the result from the smallest digits in it < 1354916592 325965 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and again, binary is an error < 1354916593 843671 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, ok... I was thinking about a language or somesuch where the only literal number is 0 < 1354916595 354466 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should have a store that can only be accessed by relative offsets from the PC :) < 1354916598 746542 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i.e. you have to have at least one digit that's 2 or higher) < 1354916611 721142 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Since those relative offsets are frequently unexpressible) < 1354916641 733525 :Ngevd!~nathan@host-84-13-70-177.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1354916664 41762 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: well the obvious consequence of that is to make it a self-modifying machine-code-like language < 1354916670 537760 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :have the only flow control as unconditional goto < 1354916673 559112 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Hell yeah < 1354916675 463989 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that can be overwritten with other commands < 1354916714 892023 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But just to be clear, your units should be source digits, so that overwriting them doesn't give you much utility. < 1354916735 95642 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i.e., the units are digits, not numbers) < 1354917032 522036 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure what you mean there < 1354917040 544245 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, you mean we store one digit per "byte"? < 1354917054 680780 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and commands that take arguments read forward to the next command? < 1354917056 189302 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like this < 1354917068 43855 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, does that prevent the language being TC? < 1354917074 632495 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or can you somehow extend the program? < 1354917075 932001 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if you overwrite the second unit of 1234 to 5 you get 1534 < 1354917081 895014 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I don't know, that's the question, innit :) < 1354917086 505636 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we just need a name < 1354917089 884117 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I can put this up on the wiki < 1354917097 599798 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :something radix < 1354917112 972738 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :radixulous < 1354917113 365542 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Radixal!" < 1354917116 907721 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe without the ! < 1354917122 823606 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :radixulous < 1354917124 780417 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Radical Ixün < 1354917141 347796 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Ixün" is a play on Unix, in spite of the language having no relation to Unix whatsoever. < 1354917148 354954 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I'm a bit slow it seems < 1354917158 976979 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: how about look at the deletion log < 1354917164 827749 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahaha < 1354917186 613975 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about The Correct Way To Discover Credit Immediately < 1354917234 892524 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, how do you get to the deletion log from the front page? >_> < 1354917255 636839 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't seem to be under special pages... < 1354917275 878635 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bet you need to be in the admin group or something < 1354917279 194205 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: save it for another language? < 1354917286 861342 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: there's a list of special pages < 1354917288 803730 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of them is the logs < 1354917291 606791 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can filter it to deletions < 1354917319 263078 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is kind-of hard to find if you don't know where it is, but it's public < 1354917319 587578 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aha, it's under the complete log list, got it. < 1354917323 522310 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Special:Log/delete < 1354917348 542777 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about Regulatory przeplywu? < 1354917390 461719 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like that < 1354917391 619780 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd prefer to save the deletion log names for languages which really can't sensibly be named anything else < 1354917391 881636 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Exactly what I was about to suggest < 1354917403 424030 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Typographical Number Theory, the only literal number is zero; other than that you use successor operation, and addition and multiplication. < 1354917405 979696 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you're not avant garde enough imo < 1354917407 877420 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :przeplywu apparently means "flow" < 1354917410 503109 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Yeah, fair enough, I think we can get a real name here :) < 1354917411 509063 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :regulatory flow sounds.. interesting < 1354917485 515938 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sklepu internetowety < 1354917513 672691 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, my suggestion still stands. Radical Ixün. < 1354917531 265937 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I don't like where you go with the language, I may fork for Radical Ixün anyway X-D < 1354917569 529027 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does Ixün mean? < 1354917573 249555 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing. < 1354917577 284528 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric : "Ixün" is a play on Unix, in spite of the language having no relation to Unix whatsoever. < 1354917596 986767 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't like ixun < 1354917607 566184 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: how about [[ais523s new grate esolang]] < 1354917632 445240 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about BASE-IC ;) < 1354917643 939070 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like "radixal" and "radixulous" < 1354917648 97909 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: it's not basic-like, though < 1354917655 268568 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, but it's base-ic. < 1354917662 812765 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :In that it's all about (numeric) base. < 1354917666 563037 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: how about "Algol" < 1354917682 907390 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: there are already multiple languages called Algol that are completely unlike each other, after all < 1354917687 46346 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :BASE-IC is nice < 1354917994 894243 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1354918138 917449 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1354918288 143088 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1354918291 611515 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :531) OK, making myself emergency doctor on the advice of IRC. < 1354918309 711458 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :O_O < 1354918324 584170 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-108.elisa.ee QUIT :Quit: Left < 1354918327 735515 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1354918328 117826 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck* ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1354918339 703143 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, right, I forgot that I was going to check homestuck out < 1354918564 827929 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style discworld < 1354918565 90485 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: discworld (a subset of Terry Pratchett's Discworld books) < 1354918581 137272 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :531 would be better if it were rather than < 1354918602 383254 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how so? < 1354918626 967030 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need to know Sgeo's history, really < 1354918631 57019 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight, (that one was from that phase elliott went through of `addquoting my running commmentary on playing dwarf fortress) < 1354918644 876666 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1354918647 558896 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :475) it's the pain of the gaps argument no matter how good your robot is at feeling pain it's never close enough < 1354918658 105604 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1354918661 668788 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :720) [...] and then you just shuffle the integral signs around a bit and hope no mathematicians notice. < 1354918666 413730 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1354918669 978196 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :564) lol :( < 1354918672 675022 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1354918676 455802 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :286) I use LiGNUXFCE+apps That's pronounced by saying "Linux" and then vomiting, btw. < 1354918679 678487 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1354918683 388603 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :351) Fiddle. It makes a big difference, you know. < 1354918686 480761 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1354918690 381179 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :306) http://www.sessionmagazine.com/img/nature/worlds-10-smallest-animals/worlds-10-smallest-animals07.jpg worlds biggest thumb < 1354918690 533058 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's one too many ais523 < 1354918692 926772 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm arresting you < 1354918693 586755 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I nkow < 1354918696 506218 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's because I was reading them < 1354918699 351071 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than wanting to delete one < 1354918700 605399 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is this weird method of quoting, one quote at a time? < 1354918704 643965 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: thats illegal < 1354918713 406605 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"illegal" isn't misspelt < 1354918715 653257 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you must be really angry < 1354918720 233906 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*ilgal < 1354918721 646720 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*algol < 1354918722 362115 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this a game < 1354918725 881133 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1354918726 423438 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: sort-of < 1354918728 829206 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :396) such a famous bisexual Yeah, like Marlon Brando. And Caligula. And... Keeley Hawes? I feel cheated by Ashes to Ashes now. < 1354918733 119749 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :every now and then we `quote five times, then delete the worst < 1354918738 166032 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in order to improve the average qdb quality < 1354918751 914211 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need several channel regulars there to do it < 1354918755 656868 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no you don't < 1354918759 880441 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i go rogue all the time < 1354918769 287649 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1354918773 210732 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess rules technically don't apply to me < 1354918782 17560 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you do it in private queries? If not it's not sufficiently rogue < 1354918785 857006 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott is the law < 1354918790 129941 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: good idea < 1354918796 872052 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you count as several channel regulars by yourself < 1354918799 246175 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1354918802 371531 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :276) elliott: parents who put just "Chris" on a birth certificate are... like parents who put just "Bob" on a birth certificate. < 1354918803 615279 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, ehird, alise, ehird` < 1354918805 376930 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :any others? < 1354918814 601174 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise? < 1354918816 149154 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think all those nicks have been here enough to count as regulars < 1354918820 392694 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yeah, alise < 1354918821 815770 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote alise < 1354918825 46751 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :97) alise: why internet is like wtf \ 101) like, just like I'd mark "Bob knob hobs deathly poop violation EXCREMENT unto;" as English alise: that's great filler ais523: well it contains all the important words in the english language... \ 105) alise: nobody is allowed to fnord me in soviet russia \ 109) alise, marble marbelus \ 110) cmake is a < 1354918842 753715 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are we talking about normalising qdb nicks < 1354918846 200393 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354918849 54597 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run head -n 1 /dev/urandom >> quotes < 1354918850 698279 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-70-177.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354918852 30745 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1354918861 287078 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have like 20+ nicks < 1354918866 219494 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Gregor < 1354918866 889893 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, it seems keeley hawes was excessively bisexualized by the press < 1354918867 218741 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I think it was an experiment into how people would react to a female nick < 1354918873 202063 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and most of the more obvious ones were taken < 1354918876 220625 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1354918878 805474 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1354918881 32266 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1354918885 157639 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run head -n 1 /dev/urandom < 1354918887 321210 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523 "future elliottologist" < 1354918887 659068 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​.C��.3�c��|ݢ���U��.��..?.1Fm�e۽s.��&!��."�醞μ�}��.*.��...����.*�.��>C�;�'�0 < 1354918891 387676 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :good quote < 1354918895 640200 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's that third character? < 1354918898 993191 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: you made a mistake < 1354918902 349338 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should have been > not >> < 1354918908 344749 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: misping? < 1354918910 622374 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1354918913 554690 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :by GreyKnight i mean Gregor < 1354918915 739066 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: YOU SEE < 1354918917 163017 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, ? < 1354918919 672106 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1354918920 647449 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION gives elliott a pair of glasses
< 1354918922 605865 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :24) SUPLENTES EN UN UNIVERSO (MUSSOLINI CUANDO CONQUISTO EL MUNDO): i tan solo puede concluir que es defectuoso, o el mundo esta absolutamente loco. Todos a la gloria Il Duce! < 1354918926 527691 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls < 1354918928 88793 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :give me a mindreading tab < 1354918928 323412 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I say we kick GreyKnight now. < 1354918929 284303 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin \ canary \ foo \ karma \ lib \ paste \ quotes \ share \ wisdom \ zalgo.hs < 1354918930 729227 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: you need a unique first two characters of your nick, really < 1354918939 534544 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AimHere must be annoyed by all my accidental /ctcp pings of him < 1354918942 697074 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :when I try to see if I'm connected < 1354918964 309611 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in #nethack < 1354918981 688344 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rename GreyKnight to Qq < 1354918983 576010 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://qdb.rawrnix.com/?805 < 1354918984 196540 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :/nick ᚧᚨᛒᛝᛠ < 1354918991 615642 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keeley_Hawes#Personal_life < 1354918994 591289 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: #nethack is the worst channel. < 1354919000 938112 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: there's /got/ to be worse < 1354919006 583626 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :#bearcave < 1354919007 142441 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1354919010 310731 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :826) < kmc> but i mean i don't like jogging so i wouldn't like jogging while jerking off either < 1354919012 158003 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really? < 1354919016 297888 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: Homophobe. < 1354919029 381769 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just because worse exists doesn't mean you have to link it < 1354919029 675392 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the worst quote is #ais523 < 1354919035 603731 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the worst channel? < 1354919040 111394 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(/me thinks this should be added as a new Rule of the Internet) < 1354919057 26840 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it'd follow on neatly from rule… 36? not good at memorizing them by number) < 1354919058 664407 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Where's the radix language? On the wiki yet? Implemented yet? < 1354919070 234246 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :call the radix language Gregor < 1354919074 667926 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: none of those yet < 1354919086 267184 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: You have to go too. < 1354919088 827653 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Finished the JIT yet? < 1354919091 903659 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :urban dictionary gives me 2 contradictory definitions of rule 36 < 1354919092 294884 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1354919095 383332 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :183) elliott: just to bring you up to speed, you are now my baby nephew. wtf, elliott is a nephew and his uncle is here? what Heck yes I'm elliott's uncle. < 1354919095 540457 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is #bearcave a homosexuality-related channel? < 1354919126 353468 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: isn't that your job? < 1354919135 780952 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: Probably not on FreeNode, but classically that's used as trollbait because that's what “bear” refers to. < 1354919148 245230 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, it's not in most list < 1354919149 493271 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :classically i.e. non-constructively < 1354919149 833180 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*lists < 1354919154 119997 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but in the ones where it is, it's 36 < 1354919165 863123 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote non-con < 1354919168 166835 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :719) elliott: Anyway, if you wrote a Haskell book, I would read it and possibly provide classical criticism. That is to say, non-constructive. < 1354919171 74071 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha at the history of rule 35, btw < 1354919172 402296 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I am only familiar with it from trolling and there isn't usually much context) < 1354919197 429479 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it used to be "the exception to rule 34 is rule 34 itself", now it's effectively "violations of rule 34 will be corrected over time" < 1354919211 632852 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1354919214 213383 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :812) < oerjan> Gregor: hey no fair doing ungoogleable citations < 1354919221 673131 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is a beautiful irony, and perhaps a deliberate reference, in this < 1354919234 861968 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: I'm sure if you Google something like "bear -animal -mammal" you'll find the definition that matters pretty quick ;) < 1354919285 158993 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I call rule 34 on befunge < 1354919312 802550 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :calling rule 34 on things is typically a bad idea < 1354919320 290380 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :?die 1d2 < 1354919320 402119 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1d2 => 2 < 1354919325 740937 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this should also be added as a rule) < 1354919326 488880 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe fungot could help < 1354919327 435849 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: granny darted back, grabbed the pitcher of water from a fake buttonhole. ' no sense in rushing around the whole time! you will die for this. < 1354919335 726806 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungus porn is pretty cool to watch if it's made right < 1354919338 262616 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds... quite lewd? < 1354919346 767415 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :undercrank and so on < 1354919348 441666 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`delquote 24 < 1354919352 567429 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*poof* SUPLENTES EN UN UNIVERSO (MUSSOLINI CUANDO CONQUISTO EL MUNDO): i tan solo puede concluir que es defectuoso, o el mundo esta absolutamente loco. Todos a la gloria Il Duce! < 1354919360 989522 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe fungot's source is pornography if you look at it the right way < 1354919361 640344 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: " vorbis?" he said softly. there. done it myself." < 1354919363 838321 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Porn where the characters spew markov-chain-generated sequences of words? < 1354919366 297305 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would watch that. < 1354919368 331580 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :...fungus porn? < 1354919370 263847 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :10/10 could fap < 1354919390 983289 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: video of the fruiting bodies doing their thang, etc < 1354919397 792483 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :some fungi shoot out spores like bullets! < 1354919398 778626 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh my < 1354919402 319535 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: do you have a stalkword on rule 34? < 1354919411 427547 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a what < 1354919415 719201 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or did you just decide to unidle for the first time in ages at that exact moment? < 1354919416 525259 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION gets all flustered
< 1354919422 422142 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: you set it as a word that your IRC client notifies you about < 1354919425 307824 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wherever it's said < 1354919429 846109 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have one on "intercal", for instance < 1354919430 688420 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :lots of fungi (or maybe those are mushrooms?) have phallic shapes < 1354919431 279866 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. no i just like fungi < 1354919434 314798 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(only in channels you're in, obviously) < 1354919471 457999 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure how it would work with befunge though, i guess you could probably write something avida-like on it fairly easily < 1354919527 713379 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: /please/ don't put too much thought into this < 1354919535 204792 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I know this is a fruitless request, but I feel compelled to make it) < 1354919546 787092 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: like the stinkhorn :-o < 1354919555 587860 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Brainfuck porn? wait, damn, no, that's no good < 1354919567 881551 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't use any set as word my IRC client notifies me about (although it does have such a command) < 1354919572 117835 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: You have to go too. < 1354919574 893726 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And Fiora < 1354919584 862533 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: it's just bricks and brains < 1354919588 503794 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :...? < 1354919601 109715 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it's not like i'm interested in fungus reproduction because i get off on it, golly, i just think it's biologically interesting < 1354919604 538683 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and alife is fun! < 1354919607 652059 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a new policy where the first two characters of your nick have to be unique. < 1354919608 921074 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: the "no two people can share the same first two letters of their nick" theory < 1354919628 489727 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :;-; < 1354919629 988059 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION fears they've created a meme
< 1354919641 944564 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION looks sidelong at boily
< 1354919644 665019 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: it's OK, I don't think anyone's enforcing the policy < 1354919645 654041 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O no, it is not bricks and brains. It is Brains&Flags which is a computer game I am designing just right now even. < 1354919649 624161 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :/nick shahaha < 1354919651 980180 :Sgeo|web!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354919654 849511 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, just change your name to xfiora < 1354919658 947906 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or even ifora < 1354919664 859627 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: wouldn't xfiora be a GUI version? < 1354919667 590299 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: and I to xFireFly? < 1354919671 560721 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could become nepetiora < 1354919686 369782 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1354919695 563627 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: an Avidafunge sounds interesting < 1354919695 657549 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :would you do the :33 thing again < 1354919699 501425 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does GNU C have the command to initialize specified element of array and make the rest zero? Can it be done with structures too? < 1354919702 472530 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can I take this as evidence in favour of the birthday paradox? < 1354919724 295216 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yes, C99 has it; int a[100] = { [20]=4 }; < 1354919734 951226 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :with structures, probably struct foo = { .bar = 12 }; < 1354919737 967212 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: i've ben asked to cease wondering about, sorry < 1354919739 743584 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In addition, does it support in LLVM-based C compilers? < 1354919741 813669 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : fungus porn is pretty cool to watch if it's made right <-- so i guess we want a befunge program that looks like fungus porn, and i _think_ it ought to be a quine. < 1354919755 632816 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: guess it would kind of blur the line between cellular automata and programmin', though < 1354919757 344810 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Yes, clang supports C99. < 1354919759 100168 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: So if it is top level will it initialize the rest zero? < 1354919759 217508 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, no, you have to be zfirefly < 1354919770 826587 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I think so < 1354919771 778590 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Yes. < 1354919776 773299 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably even if it isn't top level < 1354919781 967663 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if we get more than ~1500 users in the channel?! < 1354919786 216586 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :having an initializer /at all/ makes unmentoined things default to 0 < 1354919790 524621 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: there are punctuation marks < 1354919796 827410 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although that might not be enough < 1354919802 22169 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also 26 squared is 676 < 1354919812 945260 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION notices that their two criticisms cancel each other out
< 1354919829 295652 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, but you're implicitly disallowing different cases < 1354919830 893683 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes I refer to myself using singular they < 1354919830 971379 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :the set of punctuation marks available in nicks is rather limited, isn't it? < 1354919837 647594 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: well my tab-complete doesn't respect case < 1354919842 58206 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :/nick [o_O] < 1354919845 238650 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :since presumably FireFly and Fiora clash with fizzie < 1354919852 899347 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: it's taken < 1354919858 858046 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha is it really < 1354919864 128815 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: do you want me to do the :33 thing again < 1354919868 179388 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I always check that for random nick suggestions < 1354919872 264291 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :36 squared is about ~1200 and I rounded up a bit to try and compensate for the punctuation < 1354919872 335683 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :except when I don't < 1354919873 946718 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, what is the :33 thing? < 1354919874 169484 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, i don't want you to have done it < 1354919875 734181 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no dear, that's quite alright < 1354919878 177031 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so please don't do it again < 1354919917 919254 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this conversation is somehow more surreal than average for the channel < 1354919927 164883 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone write a BF Joust program, I understand those < 1354919929 980384 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::33 < but i am pawsitive that you would enjoy it bike < 1354919934 794414 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the zero-length arrays of GNU C and I think C99 is flexible array; I prefer the way zero-length arrays work, I think it is more sensible with how C work generally. < 1354919952 254772 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, consider others in the channel! < 1354919958 876711 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::33 < nepeta's patterns of sp33ch are purrfect < 1354919980 985984 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::33 < sorry, i furgot about that < 1354919987 528449 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: The radix language should have no symbols other than digits (and whitespace to separate them), and should allow binary, but should have different behavior depending on the radix you write the number in X-D < 1354919996 965002 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-70-177.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :D--> Stop. < 1354920011 775543 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: no, that would defeat the whole point < 1354920015 342313 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: which of the conversations were you referring to? the fungus porn, nick prefixes, array initialization or squares of numbers conversation? < 1354920021 721233 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: How so? < 1354920026 352285 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: I can't actually tell them apart < 1354920027 557680 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :you fungot about what? < 1354920028 707024 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: dios gave him a long time the barge was passing between high orange cliffs now, banded with so many fine daughters to bring up the subject. < 1354920031 39468 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apart from the array initialization one < 1354920036 440655 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, don't you fucking start < 1354920042 172787 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do the LLVM C compilers allow zero-length array to be specified in GNU mode? < 1354920050 957699 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially the squares thing, where the hell did that come from? < 1354920052 217082 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::33 < okay i will stop equius < 1354920054 875932 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Oh, I suppose it defeats the point in that the challenge is no longer figuring out how to encode a number, because you only have one or zero choices. < 1354920060 314256 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1354920064 11716 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-70-177.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :D--> Good. < 1354920087 269585 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :augh < 1354920101 250575 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Well, you could make binary do one thing and all other radixes do something else. Basically I just don't want non-digit symbols :). I suppose the alternative is to have multiple numbers per operation. < 1354920105 579288 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do a subleq or something. < 1354920106 389133 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354920138 667064 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: well if you're using code-is-data, you have to be able to store an entire number in memory < 1354920149 804068 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you write numbers into consecutive addresses < 1354920153 211953 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1354920153 388605 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like a terminal < 1354920170 139055 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I guess you assign commands to numbers < 1354920170 587457 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Opcodes are not a unified length, they're whitespace-separated X-D < 1354920177 753159 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for bonus points, mostly to unrepresentable numbers < 1354920181 303375 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :separate with whitespace < 1354920192 319971 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Errr, unrepresentable numbers can't be stored. < 1354920198 45162 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err right < 1354920199 560290 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good point < 1354920200 406902 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I came up with a language that used only digit symbols, but it wasn't too interesting < 1354920203 133964 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :representable numbers then < 1354920216 432490 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :should offsets be measured in numbers or digits? < 1354920224 894178 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you think zero-length array is much more logical than the C99 way? I think it makes a lot more sense. And there are some more uses other than just variable-length objects. < 1354920225 969005 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Digits. < 1354920226 405581 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess digits < 1354920228 149158 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight, and your ability to realise that puts you head and shoulders above every other goddamn esolang noob. < 1354920246 173087 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :X-D < 1354920247 438768 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1354920254 133984 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: Phantom_Hoover is particularly annoyed by people who make bad esolangs < 1354920262 304959 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It also means you can use sizeof; "Flexible array members have incomplete type, and so the sizeof operator may not be applied." < 1354920282 12320 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: a flexible member is [], isn't it, not [0]? < 1354920299 405404 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, someone convince me not to call this language Radixal, or I will < 1354920311 818759 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Yes. Zero-length arrays are different, and I think, more sensible than flexible arrays. < 1354920327 767443 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: but technically, you can't index more than one element past the end of them < 1354920333 113540 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :GCC also permits empty structures, which I also think is good to accept, having size zero. < 1354920333 791173 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I'm not opposed to Radixal, although I do wonder to what degree the language forming in your head is similar/distinct from the one forming in mine X-D < 1354920343 666322 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll put it up, then < 1354920357 786295 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I think it needs the exclamation mark < 1354920367 956503 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :particularly because I'm annoyed by words that end with exclamation marks < 1354920369 203453 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Well, if it is a structure then if you allocate more memory, then you could be able to index a larger size of it. < 1354920376 257567 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it feels appropriate to give the language a name that anonys me < 1354920377 683599 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*annoys me < 1354920380 501968 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Radixal! it is < 1354920392 53280 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about Radixal!!! < 1354920424 524158 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: oh dear < 1354920427 82517 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :could also call it Radixa! or RadixaI < 1354920430 903932 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that annoys meeven more, and now I want to use it < 1354920439 927420 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you prefer it to the one-exclamation mark version? < 1354920440 643850 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :radixal4! < 1354920459 305513 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: imo as many exclamation marks as you can stand < 1354920466 55698 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's probably 4, then < 1354920474 308257 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : a rainbow of exclamation marks < 1354920475 72803 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Radixal!!!! < 1354920477 130053 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty good < 1354920482 754063 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 is the limit of what's reasonable, so 4 is too many, and 5 is not significantly different to 4 < 1354920490 837835 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :2!3!4!6! < 1354920492 175969 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh god < 1354920502 887495 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 is the worst conceivable number. < 1354920503 624406 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :more than too many is not noticeably different to too many < 1354920524 465089 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 is a good number, too many to be comfortable yet few enough that you can get the right number of them with good reliability < 1354920531 200873 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :radixal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! < 1354920584 977810 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, my brain's getting hung up on typing this, definitely 4 is the right number < 1354920608 134979 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :can the coloured exclamation marks be part of the name? < 1354920629 172966 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rainbow Radixal!!!! < 1354920629 560350 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :02R03a04d05i06x07a08l09!02!03!04! < 1354920642 827070 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what if i made the wiki show a random number of exclamation marks after any occurrence of "Radixal" < 1354920649 865995 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you could even use zero-length array as something to measure the size in order to use in a macro in order to expect the type of a variable if it is known a structure including a certain name. < 1354920656 530729 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Radixal!+ might be the first novel idea in esolangs in a year. < 1354920663 701066 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: for the sole purpose of requiring a note on the wiki page that it should be spelled with colors? < 1354920664 803542 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: make it a random prime plz < 1354920679 742395 :SingingBoyo!~SingingBo@d173-180-176-35.bchsia.telus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354920684 868348 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're a random prime tho < 1354920722 170681 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I actually think a few of the emoji characters are supposed to be displayed with colors < 1354920727 506241 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rainbow dash < 1354920727 740251 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :02d03a04s05h < 1354920728 481738 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey I'm sensitive about that :< < 1354920733 604976 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of them even has a name involving colours < 1354920734 685875 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :uncertain if that made it into unicode though < 1354920743 284818 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats Gregor for ignoring Fueue -----###
< 1354920758 421323 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-70-177.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1354920784 595303 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-70-177.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although the interesting bits of Fueue were unintentional < 1354920785 966424 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :😻 < 1354920794 85817 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :one? there's many unicode characters with a colour in their name < 1354920799 444692 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIRC there's both Green Apple and Red Apple < 1354920800 421829 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, so numbers that are out of the usual range for commands: should they be errors, NOPs, repeat other commands, or something else? < 1354920803 291640 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sed -i 's/design/design and deployment//' wisdom/welcome < 1354920805 983354 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usage: sed [OPTION]... {script-only-if-no-other-script} [input-file]... \ \ -n, --quiet, --silent \ suppress automatic printing of pattern space \ -e script, --expression=script \ add the script to the commands to be executed \ -f script-file, --file=script-file \ add the contents of script-file to the commands to be executed \ --follow-symlinks < 1354920806 686277 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's/design/design and deployment//' wisdom/welcome < 1354920809 932380 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: -e expression #1, char 32: unknown option to `s' < 1354920810 957684 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-70-177.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was originally "A bit like Underload, but with numeric literals and a queue instead of two stucks" < 1354920813 512481 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-70-177.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*stacks < 1354920815 396377 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's/design/design and deployment/' wisdom/welcome < 1354920818 252711 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1354920819 166942 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? welcome < 1354920822 871664 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1354920826 310786 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? welcome < 1354920829 570492 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1354920830 694138 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1354920832 782017 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone, I need an opinion here! < 1354920836 741103 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or failing that, a fact < 1354920845 808225 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/!/!!!!/ < 1354920853 439189 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: they should be something radically!!!! random!!!! < 1354920862 398260 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I vote NOPS < 1354920867 221119 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/S/s/ < 1354920870 710987 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: maybe it prints something from a predefined list of phrases < 1354920875 404544 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(was that python?) < 1354920877 797544 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: or reverses the program! < 1354920883 200568 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :come to think of it, we could just make them ever larger-based BUT instructions < 1354920887 728367 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: oh oh how about < 1354920893 474975 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: Python doesn't have s/// notation < 1354920900 447287 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :make them do what X does in CHIQRSX9+ < 1354920904 543293 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean because it was Sssssss < 1354920911 157710 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this also means it's really painful to write an interpreter in anything but Perl < 1354920913 252004 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: but this language is interesting to determine if it's TC another way < 1354920951 307294 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: OK, then make it so that the Perl program it runs always starts with an invalid character < 1354920960 224630 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. fix the shuffle < 1354920968 946658 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: anyway my point is it should do something completely stupid < 1354920995 966230 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: just realised, ofc you can write a deterministic CHIQRSX9+ program that has a specific function; all one-capital-character words are legal in Perl (they return themselves), so you start with X; then write the rest of the program entirely with punctuation marks < 1354921019 890846 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which is /totally/ possible in Perl) < 1354921021 696773 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, hmm < 1354921033 334795 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it rotate punctuation marks as well as letters? < 1354921033 883141 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But what if control characters? < 1354921041 705817 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it rotate everything. < 1354921048 75725 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I guess it should just output the numbers in question < 1354921049 281488 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sub turing { < 1354921049 389769 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : srand; < 1354921049 461309 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : my $lang = int rand 256; < 1354921049 461483 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : my $prog = ''; < 1354921049 461593 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : for (split //, $_[0]) { < 1354921051 816604 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : $prog .= chr +(ord($_)+$lang & 255) < 1354921054 296213 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : } < 1354921056 842016 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : $_[0]=''; < 1354921057 909000 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1354921059 443679 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : return $prog; < 1354921061 858272 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :} < 1354921063 324862 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the entire ASCII range < 1354921064 338169 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: output them but with "!!!!" after it < 1354921066 187147 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that could be harder < 1354921066 816116 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe "!!!!!" < 1354921069 439150 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's marginally more stupid to use one more ! for no reason < 1354921090 330065 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Output them with a number of exclamation marks equal to the number itself < 1354921100 577630 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not as dumb < 1354921161 892637 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah, typoed "Radixal!!!" < 1354921176 948900 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this 4-! name is beautiful :') < 1354921289 799643 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hmm, for wiki-technical reasons, there should be a /// dialect called ###) < 1354921291 991348 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :BTW does anyone have a link to a good clear explanation of monads? I was trying to explain it recently but don't think I was very good at it :-/ < 1354921313 373313 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: can we have a language called ---### < 1354921332 821382 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric : BTW does anyone have a link to a good clear explanation of monads? I was trying to explain it recently but don't think I was very good at it :-/ ← please tell me this line was a particularly good attempt at trolling, rather than accidental < 1354921333 481184 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan will love it < 1354921349 205585 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: ask oerjan, maybe he'll make one < 1354921368 212455 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, actual request and I don't know what you mean :-? < 1354921383 840311 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: monad tutorials are a meme < 1354921387 702871 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1354921388 357668 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the Haskell community < 1354921410 182425 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't know that, I am not really involved with Haskell much < 1354921418 823921 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I take it the answer is "no" then? :-P < 1354921430 394658 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tip: don't explain programming monads to someone without a functional-language-with-typeclasses-of-some-sort background < 1354921435 753426 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it is meaningless to them < 1354921444 902000 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: I think there is a /// dialect called ### but it doesn't work < 1354921448 240368 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(explaining monads the category theory concept is fine, of course, but won't really help a programmer) < 1354921459 441617 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone *with* that background should just go read the Typeclassopedia or something < 1354921479 733639 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :most of the ~monads are hard~ nonsense comes from people trying to understand monads without understanding what understanding monads is about < 1354921482 788568 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the actual abstraction is mundane < 1354921520 967330 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Typeclassopedia , right? < 1354921526 616564 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1354921535 863497 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good good < 1354921546 792022 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :explaining monads-the-category-theory-concept is probably impossible for your average programmer, tbh < 1354921564 862996 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :your average programmer wouldn't ask in the first place < 1354921574 646150 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Anyway, I think those people must actually be robots because there’s no way anyone could come up with that in two seconds off the top of their head. " I like this page already < 1354921576 553477 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"monad tutorial fallacy" < 1354921577 180551 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tip 2: usually don't say "average X" < 1354921596 628719 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: should i commit something to lens. nobody has touched it in hours it feels weird. < 1354921599 54025 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the comment was running too long, i cut "inexperienced-in-typclasses" short < 1354921606 63480 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"a whole cottage industry of monad tutorials" < 1354921644 331242 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"*Any string that contains nothing but 0s and 1s, and at least I 1, is considered an error and crashes the interpreter. Although any sort of crash is acceptable and complies with the spec, we recommend segfaults, or on Windows, Blue Screens of Death." < 1354921669 421134 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-70-177.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1354921678 838711 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :by the way, BSoDs don't exist any more because they made the screen red instead >:( < 1354921716 989296 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought red was the xbox version < 1354921726 367857 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: DONT SAY ZIPPER BENCHMARKS < 1354921730 458264 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is blue in ReactOS? < 1354921762 546026 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I thought both red and blue existed now < 1354921764 992347 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zipper benchmarks < 1354921771 890025 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: lens? I think that's finished. < 1354921780 905250 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :3.7 is the final version < 1354921786 604755 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaaaaurgh... 10 hours straight... < 1354921796 137561 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(sorry. just had a long work day.) < 1354921801 576735 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least an older screenshot I have seen of ReactOS shows the BSoD, so you can know that they did manage to make ReactOS at least that much. < 1354921802 231586 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I hate the renaming of Zipper to Zipping. < 1354921808 636587 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: if you're red/blue color blind, does the new screen of dead look the same as the old one? < 1354921815 302833 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :screen of dead < 1354921820 236872 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: Poulet! < 1354921825 335055 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Dec 7 23:56:11 nyx kernel: [20076405.959198] psmouse.c: Mouse at isa0060/serio4/input0 lost synchronization, throwing 1 bytes away." That's a new one for me. < 1354921826 265947 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: it's probably a slightly different shade of redblue < 1354921829 796978 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Why? < 1354921833 428517 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also red/blue colorblindness isn't a real sort, AFAIK < 1354921841 479097 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's red/green, or blue/yellow, or not having color vision at all < 1354921861 253175 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: It sucks. < 1354921865 904872 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, those are the two color representation channels < 1354921882 320817 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ... and here I thought I was avoiding the whole "there are 13 kinds of color blind" trap < 1354921957 694062 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh somehow I never heard about reactos < 1354921962 901392 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or if I did I didn't know what it was < 1354921966 937120 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is pretty interesting < 1354922002 260742 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: screen of deađ? < 1354922007 135082 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it used to be called somethng else, didn't it? < 1354922206 167065 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1354922209 376271 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :581) The fighting game I prefer is the card game Yomi < 1354922229 690089 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_blindness#Classification < 1354922235 672484 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : olsner: can we have a language called ---### <-- certainly not, that's the wrong number of -'s < 1354922245 31892 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :opps < 1354922262 41660 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't know there was a standard < 1354922269 493776 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1354922292 57796 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about an audio-based language that uses R2D2 beeps and squawks. < 1354922378 30794 :ared_!~ared@host199-175-dynamic.4-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1354922401 464125 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I should sleep before I get any more silly < 1354922406 976540 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Quit: zzz < 1354922501 31668 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : shachaf: should i commit something to lens. nobody has touched it in hours it feels weird. <-- is it asymptotic? is lens achieving the singularity? < 1354922535 288165 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :stagnation => complete rewrite < 1354922549 69956 :xDEADCA7!~ared@host253-179-dynamic.2-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1354922666 971788 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: do you know lens < 1354922667 940440 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's cool < 1354922724 774909 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i got a little bit into the tutorial before my crashed < 1354922731 168468 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+brain < 1354922790 362362 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait which tutorial. < 1354922799 61912 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lens has first-class patterns now! < 1354922811 770978 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1354922838 533279 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it was something on github < 1354922844 2243 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Maybe prisms and lenses (and partial lenses) are the true answer to how view patterns should work. < 1354922871 332315 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION would like to see -XViewLenses
< 1354922884 700039 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Sometimes you might have a view pattern whose inverse is a pain, though. < 1354922891 974121 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like it would have to balance a tree or something. < 1354922966 347033 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a tutorial? < 1354923495 790572 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :On what? < 1354923665 296947 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :on lenses, or specifically this new lens library < 1354923687 687129 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the tutorial is looking at the types real hard < 1354923690 744372 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then realising it's obvious < 1354923692 87488 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what I did < 1354923696 806399 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course < 1354923706 980275 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: here's a "quick sell" tho < 1354923713 944355 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :_1 f (a,b) = (,b) <$> f a < 1354923717 835684 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :_2 f (a,b) = (a,) <$> f b < 1354923731 923186 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :both f (a,b) = (,) <$> f a <*> f b -- multilens! (traversal) < 1354923739 979469 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just _ Nothing = pure Nothing < 1354923748 496102 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just f (Just x) = Just <$> f x -- partial lenses! < 1354923766 905156 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(_1 :: (Functor f) => (a -> f a') -> (a,b) -> f (a',b)) < 1354923778 775729 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(both :: (Applicative f) => (a -> f b) -> (a,a) -> f (b,b)) < 1354923787 669885 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(just :: (Applicative f) => (a -> f b) -> Maybe a -> f (Maybe b)) < 1354923796 395417 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then everything is just combinators on top of types like these < 1354923830 558411 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems a bit like a huge library of combinators for pointless programming < 1354923847 500649 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: also the cooler thing is that you can compose these with Prelude < 1354923850 466872 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it goes in "oop order" < 1354923861 395487 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prelude as in id and (.) on functions < 1354923878 381991 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :_1.just :: (Applicative f) => (a -> f a') -> (Maybe a, b) -> f (Maybe a', b) < 1354923904 430059 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: edwardk is doing a talk thing on Wednesday which will be recorded. < 1354923908 346468 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also you have things like "traverse" is a valid traversal (multilens) < 1354923914 736919 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could watch that. < 1354923924 273024 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: talks are boring! < 1354923927 983533 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :traverse :: (Traversal t, Applicative f) => (a -> f b) -> t a -> f b -- fits the pattern of both/just < 1354923932 223610 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1354923934 767227 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :traverse :: (Traversal t, Applicative f) => (a -> f b) -> t a -> f (t b) -- fits the pattern of both/just < 1354923938 350753 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Traversable t < 1354923950 523163 :ared_!~ared@host199-175-dynamic.4-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1354923987 634774 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: hope i've sufficiently bamboozled you < 1354923990 5800 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and maybe oerjan by proxy < 1354924058 847109 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the readme at https://github.com/ekmett/lens was a decent introduction too < 1354924113 663283 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :traverse :: Traversable t => Traversal (t a) (t b) a b < 1354924162 448030 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: anyway once you have all this infrastructure you can do cool things < 1354924170 671828 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like a generic type-safe zipper for any type: http://hackage.haskell.org/packages/archive/lens/3.7.0.1/doc/html/Control-Lens-Zipper.html < 1354924492 115223 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's a non-type-safe zipper? < 1354924572 829604 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :one that thingy < 1354924592 434033 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc pez is not "type-safe" < 1354924593 403742 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forget how < 1354924775 58127 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Radixal!!!! < 1354924777 355870 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tell me what you think < 1354924780 116627 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially Gregor < 1354924865 700056 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :“Although any sort of crash is acceptable and complies with the spec, we recommend segfaults, or on Windows, Blue Screens of Death.” lul < 1354925045 558972 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, I got to the first operation and now my head is spinning. < 1354925114 301318 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not convinced that this language is implementable, since it actually has to perform the integer->digit string conversion to operate, and that operation is both incomplete and of unknown complexity. < 1354925137 869231 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: nice my irc client doesn't include the !s < 1354925138 765920 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the link < 1354925179 429634 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Radixal!!!! is an esoteric language created collaboratively by the #esoteric IRC channel on 7 December Category:2012. < 1354925215 566095 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Radixal%21%21%21%21 < 1354925248 476160 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :“Radixal!!!! is not obviously either Turing-complete, or not Turing-complete” < 1354925249 926666 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Profound. < 1354925578 296092 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't it also a problem that integer->digit is ambiguous? < 1354925656 157440 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok there's a specification of which is chosen... < 1354925702 771653 :Sgeo|web!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see how it's dififcult < 1354925712 13945 :Sgeo|web!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it possible to go over base 10? < 1354925713 75991 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it possible for same-length digit strings in different bases to have the same digit sum? < 1354925716 817384 :Sgeo|web!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If not, just try all the bases < 1354925783 436838 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I read it as being arbitrarily large bases < 1354925786 562081 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo|web: indeed < 1354925806 448667 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: "The accepted digits are 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, and 9" < 1354925810 130202 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. that the source is limited to base 10, but the internal representation is arbitrary-precision < 1354925828 263669 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: the base is always 1+largest digit < 1354925854 572565 :Sgeo|web!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's say I want to encode the number eleven < 1354925895 376674 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :102, isn't it < 1354925916 333389 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t showInt < 1354925917 490243 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Integral a => a -> ShowS < 1354925919 663586 :Sgeo|web!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And since "102" contains the digit for base-1, it works < 1354925923 535680 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t showIntAtBase < 1354925924 799511 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Integral a, Show a) => a -> (Int -> Char) -> a -> ShowS < 1354925931 68597 :Sgeo|web!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although makes sense to keep checking for smaller working strings, I think < 1354925947 899225 :Sgeo|web!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe it should try in other direction, so strings would be smaller? < 1354925952 160451 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, 23 should work too < 1354925974 885002 :Sgeo|web!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, "lowest total sum of digits" hmm < 1354925986 473474 :Sgeo|web!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What happens if there's a tie? < 1354925998 64129 :Sgeo|web!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, by shortest < 1354926013 538759 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@define radixals n = [rep | b <- [2..9], let rep = showIntAtBase b intToDigit n "", maximum rep == [show (b-1)]] < 1354926026 999820 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sigh* < 1354926045 58995 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ping < 1354926045 214936 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1354926049 453380 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess 102 would be the canonical version, then? < 1354926051 965809 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@define radixals n = [rep | b <- [2..9], let rep = showIntAtBase b intToDigit n "", maximum rep == [show (b-1)]] < 1354926053 130898 :Sgeo|web!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What happens if there's a tie among shortest? < 1354926060 967567 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> radixals 11 < 1354926062 758928 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `radixals' < 1354926067 905040 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1354926076 200381 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let radixals n = [rep | b <- [2..9], let rep = showIntAtBase b intToDigit n "", maximum rep == [show (b-1)]] < 1354926077 461090 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:92: < 1354926077 614404 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `Char' with actual type `[t0... < 1354926098 633796 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let radixals n = [rep | b <- [2..9], let rep = showIntAtBase b intToDigit n "", [maximum rep] == show (b-1)] < 1354926100 377696 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined. < 1354926104 643641 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> radixals 11 < 1354926106 350055 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : ["1011","102","23","15"] < 1354926111 311819 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1354926113 957887 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@undefine < 1354926129 269048 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let radixals n = [rep | b <- [3..9], let rep = showIntAtBase b intToDigit n "", [maximum rep] == show (b-1)] < 1354926130 895789 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined. < 1354926156 456741 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> radixals 432 < 1354926158 220880 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : ["121000","12300"] < 1354926220 358535 :Sgeo|web!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, how does that definition work? Is b a base (in which case where is 10) or is b a digit (in which case where is 2)? < 1354926272 362400 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suspect that showIntAtBase takes a base < 1354926296 949674 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> radixals 1999 < 1354926300 302975 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1354926301 398185 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: Time limit exceeded < 1354926304 946680 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@undefine < 1354926313 733796 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let radixals n = [rep | b <- [3..10], let rep = showIntAtBase b intToDigit n "", [maximum rep] == show (b-1)] < 1354926326 63193 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined. < 1354926329 497781 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :>radixals 1999 < 1354926339 55444 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :space < 1354926345 486031 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bleh. < 1354926349 64919 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> radixals 1999 < 1354926353 44680 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: Time limit exceeded < 1354926354 970726 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1354926363 973962 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> radixals 1999 < 1354926366 62892 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's radixal like it's 1999? < 1354926367 945986 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: Time limit exceeded < 1354926388 977771 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well this cannot possibly be hard work, so someone is abusing lambdabot elsewhere < 1354926419 13346 :Sgeo|web!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or there's just no answer < 1354926428 733971 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"1999" is the answer. < 1354926430 535398 :Sgeo|web!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that would show up as [] I guess < 1354926435 609460 :Sgeo|web!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, derp < 1354926456 125181 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> radixals 1999 < 1354926458 521881 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : ["2202001","133033","30444","3717","1999"] < 1354926466 828586 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, i guess it's not! oops. < 1354926501 264366 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :2202001 has the smallest sum < 1354926505 956753 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1354926506 385449 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you need more exclamation marks. < 1354926510 891745 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, maybe base 3 always wins < 1354926531 390653 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let r!!!!x = radixals x < 1354926532 979285 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined. < 1354926548 579038 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> radixals!!!! 2012 < 1354926550 75769 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, 5 is 11 < 1354926550 432564 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : ["2202112","133130","13152","5603","3734"] < 1354926553 90006 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :good. < 1354926560 594726 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> radixals!!!! 5 < 1354926562 400147 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : ["12","5"] < 1354926574 3405 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, what did I do wrong... < 1354926574 159777 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :11 is forbidden < 1354926578 826243 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. yes. silly me. < 1354926635 8553 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> radixals!!!! 8 < 1354926636 878160 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : ["22","8"] < 1354926655 324013 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not 20? < 1354926671 830951 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :because that's base 3 < 1354926684 146972 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~_~ < 1354926734 978124 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> radixals!!!! 11 < 1354926736 639372 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose it doesn't "win" if the base-3 doesn't work anyway. < 1354926736 788760 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : ["102","23","15"] < 1354926738 720014 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> radixals!!!! 10 < 1354926740 784557 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : [] < 1354926744 850826 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what does this do < 1354926750 562594 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i guess 15 in base 6 is 11? < 1354926757 40268 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like how you can't do 10 < 1354926766 326593 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, some numbers aren't representable, so < 1354926772 971575 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> filter (null . radixals) [0..] < 1354926776 617796 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: Time limit exceeded < 1354926780 267523 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yeah, so the lowest possible base perhaps? < 1354926781 468609 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> radixals!!!! 9 -- i think this won't be base 3 :P < 1354926783 676353 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : ["14","9"] < 1354926808 154326 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> radixals!!!! 100 < 1354926810 110536 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : ["10201","400"] < 1354926816 338986 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mm < 1354926845 258079 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure there must be something which doesn't give the lowest possible base < 1354926861 241084 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ISTR that the optimal base (in terms of lowest number of digits on average) is e < 1354926861 648901 :Sgeo|web!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :100 didn't < 1354926875 5561 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1354926899 498191 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is not exactly the same as the lowest digit sum, but fewer digits helps I guess < 1354926907 96329 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i'm wondering if the tie breaker is sure to work < 1354926993 183412 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, find two strings that have the same number of digits, the same digital sum, and are both totes radixal strings, I guess < 1354927009 488922 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed, "The base e is the most economical choice of radix β > 1 (Hayes 2001), where the radix economy is measured as the product of the radix and the length of the string of symbols needed to express a given range of values." < 1354927038 709654 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> [radixals!!!! n | n <- [0..]] < 1354927040 489384 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : [[],[],["2"],["3"],["4"],["12","5"],["20","6"],["21","13","7"],["22","8"],[... < 1354927056 326448 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> [radixals!!!! n | n <- [9..]] < 1354927058 61563 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : [["14","9"],[],["102","23","15"],["30"],["31","16"],["112","32","24"],["120... < 1354927097 74048 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> radixals!!!! 123456789 < 1354927098 883114 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : ["22121022020212200","13112330310111","223101104124","20130035113","3026236... < 1354927119 812934 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :these are beautiful < 1354927120 488250 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> [radixals!!!! n | n <- [15..]] < 1354927122 294637 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : [["120","33","17"],["121"],["122","25","18"],["200"],["201","103","34","19"... < 1354927122 826633 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: what about negative bases, huh! < 1354927135 722160 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: imo define a reverse function < 1354927152 920082 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> [radixals!!!! n | n <- [19..]] < 1354927154 691076 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : [["201","103","34","19"],["202","40","26"],["210","41"],["211","42"],["212"... < 1354927157 694258 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't you just filter it to do the test for you < 1354927366 842702 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> [r' | n <- [0..], let r = radixals!!!!n; sm = minimum[sum(fromEnum r)]; r' = [s|s <- r, sum(fromEnum r) == sm]] < 1354927368 343941 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `[a0]' < 1354927368 422487 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : with actual type `GHC.Type... < 1354927375 805054 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :POSSIBLY < 1354927466 341259 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> [r' | n <- [0..], let r = radixals!!!!n; sm = minimum[sum(fromEnum<$>s)|s<-r]; r' = [s|s <- r, sum(fromEnum<$>s) == sm]] < 1354927468 110274 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : [[],[],["2"],["3"],["4"],["5"],["6"],["7"],["8"],["9"],[],["23"],["30"],["3... < 1354927533 839289 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's of course wrong... < 1354927619 448666 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :> radixals 742 < 1354927620 37793 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like 2 wins about 99.2% of the first million integers < 1354927621 287650 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : ["23212","10432"] < 1354927629 517494 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :and only 31 of them were impossible? < 1354927653 45029 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Both sum to 5, both have a length of 5. < 1354927657 286390 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1354927659 221348 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sum to 10? < 1354927664 809114 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh, yes. < 1354927666 396967 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION relaxes
< 1354927672 971033 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Five, ten; what matter. < 1354927688 15196 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, five is 10 in base five < 1354927689 822365 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's all good < 1354927691 198892 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Found by a really crummy filter, that's why I did it in private.) < 1354927691 408782 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, nm, I forgot to sort by digit sum < 1354927694 263480 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: your tie breaking is insufficient < 1354927714 346002 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also you're idle. < 1354927758 82414 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ais523 742 has two representations ["23212","10432"] that your tie breaking won't distinguish < 1354927758 238326 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1354927802 225896 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :16:46 newtype NonEmpty f a = NonEmpty a (f a) < 1354927821 843048 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: It would be a good idea!!! < 1354927855 294699 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :good newtype < 1354927881 445473 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: hey my filter was even crummier! it didn't even work! < 1354927887 98707 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's an advanced newtype < 1354927905 97515 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's ambiguous it should just crash according to the same rule as binary numbers < 1354927905 265812 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: you'd think < 1354927978 718133 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Mine only looked at cases where there were exactly two representations, and had a (\[a,b] -> ...) in it. :/ < 1354927999 547344 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy < 1354928011 541228 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I bet you could use: LENS. < 1354928019 662891 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The opposite of fancy, I'd say. < 1354928059 351280 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: could you educate fizzie on the meaning of OKAY, fancy and shocking plz? < 1354928074 561028 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I missed any/everything since my initial comments, but I don't see any reply by you, sooooooo. < 1354928083 5826 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :understanding them yourself is optional. < 1354928119 762056 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: OKAY. < 1354928137 821326 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good, good < 1354928146 385783 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hm you might want to add that one) < 1354928148 309616 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: what will you call your competitor for Radixal!!!!? < 1354928174 402986 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Radical Ixün < 1354928210 70077 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Californ Ixün < 1354928364 699342 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bas2-h-1-5.dab.02.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354928371 902337 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> [n | n <- [0..], null(radicals!!!!n)] < 1354928374 162396 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bas2-h-1-5.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : Is there any 3D modeling that you can write x^2+y^2+z^2=25 and it will work? < 1354928374 733532 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Could not find module `Data.Monoid.Lens' < 1354928374 890025 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : It is a member of the hidden pack... < 1354928380 980282 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1354928381 53637 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bas2-h-1-5.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :try POV-Ray's isofunctions < 1354928390 878258 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> [n | n <- [0..], null(radicals!!!!n)] < 1354928391 778068 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Could not find module `Data.Monoid.Lens' < 1354928391 933920 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : It is a member of the hidden pack... < 1354928400 154516 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bas2-h-1-5.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the hidden pack...! < 1354928412 632311 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the big conspiracy < 1354928413 159216 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> [n | n <- [0..], []==radicals!!!!n] < 1354928414 247335 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Could not find module `Data.Monoid.Lens' < 1354928414 406643 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : It is a member of the hidden pack... < 1354928415 996206 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't remember if the old Mac OS graphing calculator could do that < 1354928422 113629 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was pretty sweet though < 1354928427 175507 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> radixals!!!!10 < 1354928428 12276 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Could not find module `Data.Monoid.Lens' < 1354928428 93433 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : It is a member of the hidden pack... < 1354928431 349432 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ic < 1354928436 687882 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :SABOTAGE < 1354928497 411526 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bas2-h-1-5.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I blame shachaf personally < 1354928532 381579 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let radixals=undefined;_!!!!n = [rep | b <- [3..10], let rep = showIntAtBase b intToDigit n "", [maximum rep] == show (b-1)] in [n | n <- [0..], []==radicals!!!!n] < 1354928533 292116 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Could not find module `Data.Monoid.Lens' < 1354928533 364518 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : It is a member of the hidden pack... < 1354928537 346573 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@undefine < 1354928540 775864 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let radixals=undefined;_!!!!n = [rep | b <- [3..10], let rep = showIntAtBase b intToDigit n "", [maximum rep] == show (b-1)] in [n | n <- [0..], []==radicals!!!!n] < 1354928541 926923 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Could not find module `Data.Monoid.Lens' < 1354928542 77913 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : It is a member of the hidden pack... < 1354928553 849867 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 2+2 < 1354928554 676760 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Could not find module `Data.Monoid.Lens' < 1354928554 754910 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : It is a member of the hidden pack... < 1354928562 948947 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :was afraid of that < 1354928566 923228 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@undefine < 1354928572 419693 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 2+2 < 1354928573 364379 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Could not find module `Data.Monoid.Lens' < 1354928573 452463 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : It is a member of the hidden pack... < 1354928583 200876 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :your complaint has been relayed. < 1354928588 29488 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: i think lambdabot is seriously broken at the moment < 1354928616 49131 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, these numbers are not entirely without patterns (nonradixals in the first 100000): [10,36,37,40,81,82,85,256,280,20776,27216,27217,27300,27301] < 1354928619 334269 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bas2-h-1-5.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 0 < 1354928620 111813 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Could not find module `Data.Monoid.Lens' < 1354928620 189593 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : It is a member of the hidden pack... < 1354928636 775091 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bas2-h-1-5.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps a tiny bit < 1354928673 489008 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: a quantum amount < 1354928689 623792 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bas2-h-1-5.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> Data.Monoid.Lens < 1354928689 757310 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t 0 < 1354928690 248658 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Num a => a < 1354928690 602327 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Could not find module `Data.Monoid.Lens' < 1354928690 680106 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : It is a member of the hidden pack... < 1354928748 351553 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: hm a lot at about 27000 < 1354928757 836982 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bas2-h-1-5.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: not in OEIS (is it interesting enough to submit?) < 1354928969 597054 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bas2-h-1-5.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, sing me to sleep < 1354928970 87173 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: 53. file://localhost/ mnt/ space/ media/ books/ 1000+sci-fi%20books/%5bebooks%5d%201000+%20sciencefiction%20%26%20fantasy%20novels%20%28.lit%20forma/ pratchett%2c%20terry/ text/ 14/ fnord < 1354928981 432 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bas2-h-1-5.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is not a very good song < 1354928998 387857 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :a number is radixal if it's expressible as a number in radixal? < 1354929030 501004 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Surprisingly few numbers that can't be represented that way < 1354929037 986170 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this that radix thing someone mentioned < 1354929042 576879 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1354929042 746393 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld* europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1354929059 266056 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: yes this is the radix thing that's been going on for half an hour < 1354929061 735793 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders if Discworld contains lots of URIs
< 1354929083 962254 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style europarl < 1354929084 224360 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: europarl (European Parliament speeches during approx. 1996-2006) < 1354929091 997643 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: write me a poem < 1354929092 308670 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: to not be a radixal, a numbers representation in each base 3-10 must not contain the largest digit in the base. < 1354929094 351445 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: mr president, tomorrow' s vote. i would thus like to see the israeli soldier who has been suspended and the foreign minister, mr michel stated that the council is unwilling to apply the consensus and conciliatory approach that characterize this parliament to draw up a policy to boost economic growth and employment, mark a step in the right direction. < 1354929097 528962 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*'s < 1354929106 513345 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: nice leak < 1354929120 98797 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bas2-h-1-5.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I think there might be a tiny bug in the discworld style < 1354929134 795729 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that gets harder and harder as the numbers get larger < 1354929163 133911 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Whoops." < 1354929179 821188 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, they're from elinks -dump or something. < 1354929266 996569 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote fungot, sing me to sleep GreyKnight: 53. file://localhost/ mnt/ space/ media/ books/ 1000+sci-fi%20books/%5bebooks%5d%201000+%20sciencefiction%20%26%20fantasy%20novels%20%28.lit%20forma/ pratchett%2c%20terry/ text/ 14/ fnord This is not a very good song < 1354929268 755256 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: mr president-in-office, not allied forces, mr president-in-office, two initiatives: the french, the belgians and the irish referendum and that is to say, ' mary, you are preparing to vote for or against a government in any case, all pay merits work. this situation cannot be allowed to increase under any circumstances, be resolved without difficulty. slovenia has proved particularly mature in its consensual and moderate < 1354929270 447037 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :864) fungot, sing me to sleep GreyKnight: 53. file://localhost/ mnt/ space/ media/ books/ 1000+sci-fi%20books/%5bebooks%5d%201000+%20sciencefiction%20%26%20fantasy%20novels%20%28.lit%20forma/ pratchett%2c%20terry/ text/ 14/ fnord This is not a very good song < 1354929283 310628 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1354929283 704597 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1354929284 117460 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1354929284 195940 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1354929284 333641 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1354929289 885050 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now my shame is immortal. :/ < 1354929304 49924 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :499) That's the stupidest thing I've heard all morning. (Though I did wake up five minutes ago, so I haven't had a chance to hear very much.) The "Why are you still asleep? I told the cat to wake you up." comment does come pretty close, though. < 1354929305 930096 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bas2-h-1-5.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay I'm internet famous < 1354929350 919288 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :57) actually just ate some of the dog food because i didn't have any human food... after a while they start tasting like porridge < 1354929350 993398 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :845) But let's ignore the fact that i doesn't exist. Is it even or odd? < 1354929350 993479 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :718) * Phantom_Hoover moves 0.5 Phantom_Hoover into the Atlantic, and captures fizzie's upper body with 0.5 Phantom_Hoover. Glurk. < 1354929351 782220 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :527) well, oerjan has a lot of opinions on this, so I'll hand it over to him < 1354929395 505386 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: bleh, I meant to put a tiebreak on the tiebreak, but forgot < 1354929395 665587 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1354929397 146154 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll do that now < 1354929430 727404 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bas2-h-1-5.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if I get a vote, but if so, rm 718 < 1354929439 258428 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's tiebreaks all the way down! < 1354929454 609922 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i vote against that < 1354929455 674031 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight, that quote from me was a continuous chess joke btw < 1354929460 655665 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo 527 or 718 < 1354929470 742888 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you want it removed :( < 1354929472 102761 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ARGH < 1354929474 792774 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote imo < 1354929481 696830 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :7) TODO: sex life \ 436) Non sequitur is my forte On-topic discussion is my piano Bowls of sugary breakfast cereal is my mezzoforte Full fat milk is my pianissimo On which note, I'm hungry < 1354929496 694566 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote emo < 1354929499 584870 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :249) gah, who'd have thought removing concurrency from algol could be so difficult \ 284) elliott: I doubt water memory can last for even one second in a gravitational field (or even outside of a gravitational field), but other people think they can make water memory with telephones. \ 358) You have no idea how desperately I want to avoid being a GC guy :P Every year I go to ISMM < 1354929501 98126 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1354929501 356942 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 29m 3s ago: 742 has two representations ["23212","10432"] that your tie breaking won't distinguish < 1354929512 206479 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION adds tiebreak to tiebreak
< 1354929532 256753 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if you used the redundant representations to express the inexpressable numbers. < 1354929536 810099 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there enough :D < 1354929560 161515 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: profound :) < 1354929567 632030 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the inexpressable numbers are the whole point < 1354929569 403541 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't know I was supposed to @tell X_X < 1354929572 344960 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you like my output method, btw? < 1354929585 114941 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can't do prime codepoints, nor certain nonprime codepoints either < 1354929585 291885 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION looks
< 1354929585 563474 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric : I'm not convinced that this language is implementable, since it actually has to perform the integer->digit string conversion to operate, and that operation is both incomplete and of unknown complexity. < 1354929588 52164 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fine, 527 is worse < 1354929588 207978 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are like 7 bases left over for each representable number < 1354929600 559311 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`delquote 527 < 1354929602 561756 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf lag < 1354929604 553691 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*poof* well, oerjan has a lot of opinions on this, so I'll hand it over to him < 1354929613 593325 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: that is pretty good except (a) you forgot a ")" (b) it doesn't involve ! < 1354929627 380582 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but making cat impossible is very cool and stupid < 1354929634 54289 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can make an approximate cat < 1354929634 791397 :Sgeo|web!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, the operation is clearly doable fairly easily, so what does complexity have to do with it? The language might be slow? < 1354929641 75678 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which chooses similar-looking codepoints < 1354929643 876858 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, probably < 1354929673 82292 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Call it kitten < 1354929678 766253 :greyooze!~GK@dab-bas1-h-17-3.dab.02.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354929686 327524 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: it's complete, there's no way to come up with an unrepresentable number < 1354929692 583796 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because all the numbers are generated by converting back from digit strings < 1354929698 962773 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ohyeah X-D < 1354929706 234572 :greyooze!~GK@dab-bas1-h-17-3.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : Phantom_Hoover: hm okay that context makes it better < 1354929707 596873 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if they're strings of 0s and 1s, we add an extra non-0 non-1 digit at the start < 1354929710 705970 :greyooze!~GK@dab-bas1-h-17-3.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : (continuous chess covers a multitude of sins) < 1354929736 827794 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bas2-h-1-5.dab.02.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1354929737 185696 :Sgeo|web!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :continuous sin chess? < 1354929751 226645 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I imagine there aren't many unrepresentable numbers as you get higher up < 1354929759 759067 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they'd have to be represented only with 0s and 1s in /every/ base < 1354929759 861310 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess the operation isn't that difficult, too… just go from base 10 down and choose whichever one works, if any. < 1354929763 680121 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :from 3 to 10 < 1354929776 890087 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1354929777 366117 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1354929777 848844 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1354929778 170057 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1354929778 340378 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1354929781 886731 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, you basically only need to convert it to 8 different bases then compare < 1354929788 512414 :Sgeo|web!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: yes. If you've been paying attention, we implemented it and played with it quite a bit < 1354929791 701084 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :756) haters gonna make som valid points < 1354929795 734197 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: how about extending it to arbitrary bases instead of only going to base 10? < 1354929797 780526 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo|web: I haven't ;) < 1354929802 53198 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION seconds olsner
< 1354929806 820965 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was driving, making a phone call, ... < 1354929808 873352 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: olsner found a surprising number just above 27000 < 1354929821 157938 :greyooze!~GK@dab-bas1-h-17-3.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, I thought 527 was kind of funny because elliott is calling someone else opinionated ;-) < 1354929821 514976 :greyooze!~GK@dab-bas1-h-17-3.dab.02.net NICK :GreyKnight < 1354929823 317387 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 0 < 1354929824 720887 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0 < 1354929831 272821 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :517) Hmm, I really need to institute dwarven birth control. < 1354929831 573033 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Grey Ooze? < 1354929832 325471 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> product[1..10] < 1354929833 771195 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : 3628800 < 1354929834 10484 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: it makes more sense in context < 1354929834 96510 :Gregor!codu@codu.org NICK :TheSmooze < 1354929835 991625 :TheSmooze!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Smooze! < 1354929838 379462 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :434) ais523, how are we supposed to guess before you tell us unless you give us more hints? < 1354929838 949104 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :830) my best guess is 4 years ago but possibly also yesterday < 1354929839 376555 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :110) cmake is a nuclear powered waffle iron powered by a burning-hot testicle attachment and it burns one of the waffles and doesn't touch the other. < 1354929846 249522 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> foldl1' lcm[1..10] < 1354929847 649973 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2520 < 1354929850 237185 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :434 is not funny < 1354929858 340793 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm it's not that then < 1354929862 327920 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the cornballer! < 1354929869 772097 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :830 and 110 are both good < 1354929879 929460 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really like 517 or 756 < 1354929894 653600 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although 756 is better out of those < 1354929908 54813 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : they'd have to be represented only with 0s and 1s in /every/ base <-- no, just not use the largest digit of the base < 1354929909 207561 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :434 is there to mock vorpal more or less < 1354929919 776885 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo 517 < 1354929951 672157 :TheSmooze!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, the tiebreaker should choose the shortest (first priority), lowest base (second priority), yes? < 1354929964 322710 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bas1-h-17-3.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :517 or 434 < 1354929982 344821 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`delquote 517 < 1354929989 464093 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : also, I thought 527 was kind of funny because elliott is calling someone else opinionated ;-) <-- no the joke is i don't have any opinions < 1354929991 53126 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*poof* Hmm, I really need to institute dwarven birth control. < 1354929992 211135 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone who hasn't been around Vorpal can't vote on mocks of him, of course < 1354930005 14034 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the joke is mainly the person I was getting to talk to you. < 1354930010 758390 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bas1-h-17-3.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I met Vorpal a little bit in #feather-lang < 1354930013 689762 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1354930014 97365 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1354930014 439827 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1354930014 596433 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1354930015 75150 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1354930017 924824 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote monqy < 1354930023 555591 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight, we're sincerely sorry < 1354930029 227520 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :226) gah, why does lose keep winning? < 1354930030 386621 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :287)