00:00:46 volatile types? 00:00:53 elliott: why are you trying so hard to get rid of kmc? 00:01:25 ais523: Well, he's the worst person in the world and I hate him. 00:01:30 kmc: Right? 00:02:08 ais523: (I'm not.) 00:02:21 `cat /etc/*-release 00:02:22 cat: /etc/*-release: No such file or directory 00:02:46 :D 00:02:55 I think consensus is that we approve of kmc 00:03:44 the #esoteric seal of approval? 00:03:57 possibly 00:04:04 elliott is just jealous of his cool blog 00:04:26 I bet kmc doesn't even get hate mail for his blog. 00:04:30 PH's blog is the true one to be envious of. 00:04:45 Sgeo: You should notify me of updates to mainisusuallyafunction.blogspot.com 00:04:46 aww <3 00:05:10 kmc: I guess you can notify me too, if you happen to notice them first. 00:05:14 shachaf: It's mainisusuallyafunction.blogspot.co.uk 00:05:25 mainisusuallyafunction.blogspot.hebrew 00:05:35 it's trying to tell me its address is http://mainisusuallyafunction.blogspot.se/ 00:05:54 i'm sure y'all are just misspelling http://mainisusuallyafunction.blogspot.no/ 00:05:55 elliott: I think that's spelled ".co.il" 00:06:55 this mortal co.il 00:06:56 you know someone is going to buy .jew 00:07:13 definitely worth the thousands of dollars 00:07:24 hell yes 00:07:38 hm did mentifex mention .jew 00:08:27 kmc: on that note, I hadn't seen that hex-editing kernel module post 00:08:34 that is magnificently horrific 00:08:39 thanks 00:08:54 i thought linux modules had checksums but... not this one anyway 00:09:38 oh, he didn't :( 00:10:00 Bike: do you have a degree in crackpots or something 00:10:13 from crackpottery barn 00:10:38 -!- Nisstyre-laptop has joined. 00:10:42 #esoteric is the best place to study crackpottery 00:10:42 Nothing here 00:10:52 #hi 00:10:54 no, i just took a wrong turn in my life back in the day 00:10:58 #esoteric oonbotti? 00:10:59 Nothing here 00:11:13 greyknight would you help me with this debian installation of mono? i'm not sure why this doesn't work -> http://mono-project.com/DistroPackages/Debian 00:11:22 one day you're just chucling at frakenstein surgery computer gangster boxes, and the next you're smoking kallisti cores off a schizo's back 00:11:30 * shachaf is tempted to quote #haskell now 00:11:43 hagb4rd: one problem with installing things on HackEgo is commands timing out :-) 00:11:51 shachaf: You should do it. Hypocrisy is fashionable. 00:12:03 elliott: It's on-topic this time! 00:12:05 Unlike monads. 00:12:14 hm 00:12:18 Is it about lenses? 00:12:25 No. 00:12:33 It's about, uh, sheep? 00:12:42 yessssss the frakenstein surgery computer gangster boxes 00:12:49 #esoteric What would be here if what was here was shachaf's common sense? 00:12:50 Nothing here 00:12:59 gangster computer god world-wide secret containment policy!! 00:13:16 Finally in Dungeons&Dragons game I got the spellbook. 00:13:28 now you can spell 00:13:47 kmc: I have no idea what is going on. 00:13:57 another crackpot 00:14:15 Related: http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0012.html 00:14:16 lawyer who went nuts and wrote all these barely legible rants about communist gangster frakenstein surgery 00:14:35 GreyKnight: exactly what I was thinking of 00:14:45 elliott: http://www.bentoandstarchky.com/dec/containmentpolicy.htm 00:15:04 there's a nice audio recording linked from there 00:15:23 i love that site's design 00:15:47 Four billion wordwide population - all living - have a Computer God Containment Policy Brain Bank Brain, a real brain, in the Brain Bank Cities on the far side of the moon we never see. 00:15:49 actually i get some "Permission denied" errors :/ 00:16:37 the Brain Bank Cities! 00:16:41 I want to see those 00:16:46 Worldwide as a Frankenstein slave, usually at night, you go to the nearby hospital or camouflaged miniature-hospital van trucks. You strip naked, lay on the operating table, which slides into the sealed Computer God Robot Operating Cabinet. 00:16:47 are you sure i'd have the rights to install packages in the sandbox? 00:16:56 * impomatic wonders when mannerisky was last here... 00:17:27 `which seen 00:17:29 No output. 00:17:43 hagb4rd: everyone can write to it, that's why it's in a sandbox in the first place :-P 00:17:53 WAKE UP SHEEPLE 00:18:02 -!- epicmonkey has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 00:18:04 GreyKnight: http://www.bentoandstarchky.com/dec/containmentpolicy/brainbankcities.jpg uh, HELLO, there's a picture RIGHT THERE 00:18:13 I don't think `run has root access (inside the sandbox) 00:18:17 `whoami 00:18:20 whoami: cannot find name for user ID 5000 00:18:31 `touch /this 00:18:33 touch: cannot touch `/this': Permission denied 00:18:55 there are some restrictions 00:19:06 :( 00:19:07 Bike: clicking takes effort -o- 00:19:14 weak 00:19:39 `uname -a 00:19:41 Linux umlbox 3.0.8-umlbox #2 Sun Nov 13 21:30:28 UTC 2011 x86_64 GNU/Linux 00:20:24 `cat the_list 00:20:26 Sgeo \ Fiora 00:20:27 `update 00:20:30 Sgeo Fiora: update 00:20:52 no more forgetful incidents :-) 00:21:47 Bike: I expected something more city-like, disappointed 00:22:11 You could just make it a wisdom entry.. 00:22:11 @ask Gregor: would you please do me a favour and install the mono-packages? i don't seem to have sufficiant rights. only if you find some time to do so. Can you give me some feedback? I'd be gratful. 00:22:11 Consider it noted. 00:22:14 i enjoy the way Francis E. Dec uses language 00:22:22 GreyKnight: "slow" 00:22:40 @tell Gregor http://mono-project.com/DistroPackages/Debian 00:22:41 Consider it noted. 00:22:54 zzo38: perhaps the Brain Bank Cities on the moon would be a good spot for a D&D game. The illithids would love it there (perhaps they run the place) 00:22:57 his run-on sentences are mostly grammatical, except that a lot of them are just huge noun clauses 00:23:51 hm I should have written it in Haskell for the practice 00:24:26 `ls interps 00:24:28 1l \ 2l \ adjust \ axo \ befunge \ bfjoust \ bf_txtgen \ boof \ build.sh \ cfunge \ c-intercal \ clc-intercal \ dimensifuck \ egobch \ egobf \ fukyorbrane \ gcccomp \ gforth_quit \ ghc \ glass \ glypho \ kipple \ lambda \ lazyk \ linguine \ Makefile \ malbolge \ pbrain \ qbf \ rail \ rhotor \ sadol \ sceql \ trigger \ udage01 \ underload \ unlambda 00:24:39 Hm, no plof ,_, 00:25:32 write one :-D 00:25:46 there is no plof on the wiki 00:25:55 I can't remember how to compile it 00:26:07 http://plof.codu.org/wiki/ fwiw 00:26:11 plof is not esoteric 00:26:23 *more* links to click? 00:26:25 Fair enoughs 00:26:37 enough* even 00:26:50 `cat bin/update 00:26:50 #!/bin/sh \ echo "$(cat the_list | xargs -d'\n'): update" 00:26:51 But neither is Haskell!! 00:26:58 `ls 00:26:59 bin \ canary \ egobot.tar.xz \ etc \ factor \ factor-linux-x86-64-0.95.tar.gz \ foo \ foo.err \ foo.out \ gktemp \ ibin \ index.html \ interps \ karma \ lib \ luabuild \ paste \ quotes \ quotese \ run \ share \ test \ the_list \ wisdom \ zalgo.hs 00:27:16 and it clearly knows how to run haskell programs 00:27:29 FireFly: that was why it's not on the wiki, not why it's not in interps 00:27:33 Haskell is confusing enough to count as an honorary esolang :-) 00:27:38 Oh. 00:27:39 `ls usr/bin 00:27:40 but can hackego's `update compete with sgeo's personality 00:27:43 ls: cannot access usr/bin: No such file or directory 00:27:47 `ls /usr/bin 00:27:48 [ \ 2to3 \ 2to3-2.6 \ a2p \ addpart \ addr2line \ aot-compile \ appletviewer \ apropos \ apt \ apt-cache \ apt-cdrom \ apt-config \ apt-extracttemplates \ apt-ftparchive \ apt-get \ aptitude \ aptitude-create-state-bundle \ aptitude-curses \ aptitude-run-state-bundle \ apt-key \ apt-mark \ apt-sortpkgs \ ar \ arch \ as \ awk \ axi-cache \ base64 00:27:56 monqy: I doubt it. 00:28:02 `install sgeo 00:28:02 `ls /usr/bin | paste 00:28:03 ls: cannot access /usr/bin | paste: No such file or directory 00:28:04 install: missing destination file operand after `sgeo' \ Try `install --help' for more information. 00:28:06 `cat /usr/bin/[ 00:28:07 ELF............>.....�@.....@.......(z..........@.8..@.........@.......@.@.....@.@.....�.......�............................@......@............................................@.......@.....�u......�u........ ............�u......�u`.....�u`.....p.............. ...........�u......�u`.....�u`.....�.......�................ 00:28:11 `run ls /usr/bin | paste 00:28:12 Nice 00:28:16 http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.14597 00:28:21 `run mv sgeo $(which update) 00:28:23 mv: cannot stat `sgeo': No such file or directory 00:28:24 hm maybe I should've file'd it first :-) 00:29:23 I like how HackEgo contains /usr/bin/aptitude-curses, how are we supposed to use that?! 00:30:32 * GreyKnight tries it in private, gets expected garbage 00:30:44 `aptitude-curses 00:30:57 -!- copumpkin has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 00:31:29 -!- copumpkin has joined. 00:31:48 [1;24r[0;10m[4l[?7h[39;49m[?1000h[?25l[?1c[39;49m[0;10m[H[J[24d[0;10;1m[37m[41m[J[H[37m[44m Actions Undo Package Resolver Search Options Views Help[K 00:31:56 pretty 00:32:10 `cat /dev/urandom | hexdump -C | less 00:32:12 cat: /dev/urandom | hexdump -C | less: No such file or directory 00:32:12 er 00:32:16 `run cat /dev/urandom | hexdump -C | less 00:32:18 00000000 57 e0 19 43 83 b8 be 92 4c 8a 68 87 c6 5f ae df |W..C....L.h.._..| \ 00000010 66 50 15 32 bb 8f 48 a2 fc 58 78 50 35 b3 7c 31 |fP.2..H..XxP5.|1| \ 00000020 31 a5 c2 7d 4f e5 1d 2b 02 5f 5e e6 63 f6 88 ab |1..}O..+._^.c...| \ 00000030 02 49 5f 89 48 b1 68 bc 09 be 4f 99 0a d6 20 a3 |.I_.H.h...O... .| \ 00000040 ca da 4f c6 ab 0 00:32:26 not pretty 00:32:35 `run base64 /dev/urandom 00:32:36 mVJnSjwftK95Zyx8f8GkXRRlJ8chsnslHIlp1XzcR4mdgOzg26oUZoLIjXfrg6/G5MHnco1wSQdW \ F1VQnLnImapZhyLkqwVWb7QskNTJofO008uTsucre/cvYXZACci97uy8NU3egKs4aEtqQXaqe4/Q \ j3uhPl0xLBA5dqYBt8VaHVrwaiVEnCogIgRmr88yXZNR8D67BGwPeTwZkkTq5xEMTeT/8XOwb9LD \ wXL/eYryzlJZ9ZJzc9PVWtYOvXfynYERs8NfR8zg8RDtVxcC/33Fq/3GojBhJXSbcjoEg7F9mtIE \ Lj/WdVicmyLDKLzNXi+0Vix98JU6HGaIXd 00:32:40 `run cat /dev/urandom | hexdump -C | vi - 00:33:09 -!- SirCmpwn has quit (Changing host). 00:33:09 -!- SirCmpwn has joined. 00:33:15 `run ls -la /proc/self/fd/ 00:33:30 umm 00:33:39 HackEgo: you alive? 00:33:43 Vim: Warning: Output is not to a terminal 00:33:45 total 0 \ dr-x------ 2 5000 5000 0 Jan 12 00:33 . \ dr-xr-xr-x 7 5000 5000 0 Jan 12 00:33 .. \ lr-x------ 1 5000 5000 64 Jan 12 00:33 0 -> /tty1 \ l-wx------ 1 5000 5000 64 Jan 12 00:33 1 -> pipe:[66] \ l-wx------ 1 5000 5000 64 Jan 12 00:33 2 -> /tty1 \ lr-x------ 1 5000 5000 64 Jan 12 00:33 3 -> /console \ l-wx------ 1 5000 5000 64 Jan 12 00:33 00:33:47 -!- impomatic has quit (Quit: impomatic). 00:33:49 Oh, good 00:34:01 "I think I heard that monads are about something involving overloading burrito operators in an endospacesuit category. I don't know, it sounds pretty complicated." 00:34:21 `? endospacesuit 00:34:23 endospacesuit? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 00:34:29 cospacesuit 00:34:30 /tty1? 00:34:34 `run stat /tty1 00:34:34 vim takes about a minute to start up apparently 00:34:36 stat: cannot stat `/tty1': No such file or directory 00:34:46 GreyKnight: That shouldn't happen 00:34:53 Or the timeout is after about a minute 00:35:01 (and that is when the output is collected) 00:35:08 `run stat /console 00:35:09 stat: cannot stat `/console': No such file or directory 00:35:22 `run echo echo echo 00:35:23 echo echo 00:35:35 Let's try implementing an infinite list in bash 00:35:37 `run sleep 2; stat /tty1 00:35:41 stat: cannot stat `/tty1': No such file or directory 00:35:46 `run yes :D | tr -d '\n' 00:35:47 :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D: 00:36:20 Pipes are partially lazy :D 00:36:22 `run (echo 8; yes =; echo D) | tr -d '\n' 00:36:24 8============================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================= 00:37:07 -!- ogrom has quit (Quit: Left). 00:37:40 `run yes '_,/`¯`\\,' | tr -d '\n' 00:37:42 _,/`¯`\\,_,/`¯`\\,_,/`¯`\\,_,/`¯`\\,_,/`¯`\\,_,/`¯`\\,_,/`¯`\\,_,/`¯`\\,_,/`¯`\\,_,/`¯`\\,_,/`¯`\\,_,/`¯`\\,_,/`¯`\\,_,/`¯`\\,_,/`¯`\\,_,/`¯`\\,_,/`¯`\\,_,/`¯`\\,_,/`¯`\\,_,/`¯`\\,_,/`¯`\\,_,/`¯`\\,_,/`¯`\\,_,/`¯`\\,_,/`¯`\\,_,/`¯`\\,_,/`¯`\\,_,/`¯`\\,_,/`¯`\\,_,/`¯`\\,_,/`¯`\\,_,/`¯`\\,_,/`¯`\\,_,/`¯`\\,_,/`¯`\\, 00:37:43 -!- hagb4rd has quit (Quit: good night). 00:37:51 Fancy 00:37:58 hm too many \s 00:38:05 Try double quotes 00:38:05 `run yes '_,/`¯`\,' | tr -d '\n' 00:38:06 _,/`¯`\,_,/`¯`\,_,/`¯`\,_,/`¯`\,_,/`¯`\,_,/`¯`\,_,/`¯`\,_,/`¯`\,_,/`¯`\,_,/`¯`\,_,/`¯`\,_,/`¯`\,_,/`¯`\,_,/`¯`\,_,/`¯`\,_,/`¯`\,_,/`¯`\,_,/`¯`\,_,/`¯`\,_,/`¯`\,_,/`¯`\,_,/`¯`\,_,/`¯`\,_,/`¯`\,_,/`¯`\,_,/`¯`\,_,/`¯`\,_,/`¯`\,_,/`¯`\,_,/`¯`\,_,/`¯`\,_,/`¯`\,_,/`¯`\,_,/`¯`\,_,/`¯`\,_,/`¯`\,_,/`¯`\,_,/`¯`\,_,/`¯`\ 00:38:09 or that 00:38:32 `run cat /dev/urandom | tr -cd 'A-Za-z' | tr -d '\n' 00:38:34 TLXJzjqIVvmotKMELfBLqdaOtHHwMkUotikPSoBjreENxPzqmMHeEzWSSlOOCrIXOXNVCjwXUGBDqyAKmDzUcYRHQOcXaGfuuNzOJfBGckRYARPutXorbAiUeHtNndjMWIiSUBbTftqzLatYZSccvCTCztlMSAhqBzTwroHUXEUWQYhqQktWFZIxaNbIvcNxOzjJxqTzxfdKDiTWKqyxsqLpKExeQIHkmZTGZahJomZlvBGhvhHIWoGhrUzNmqZVLJjFtnczPrmGjWmcqQwXGFWuTYSBhtskvEaCmolUrxGRjvKYdWIRbKBMNqINyClAhOtcHlVVWdIAfTEFVzdJPGrfCaEBMi 00:38:44 Looks like base64 00:39:05 why are y'all spamming the channel 00:39:06 stop it 00:39:14 `run cat /dev/urandom | tr -cd 'A-Za-z' | tr 'A-Z' \\ | tr 'a-z' / 00:39:14 sowwy 00:39:15 tr: warning: an unescaped backslash at end of string is not portable \ //\//\\\\//\///\\\\\\////\\\\//\\\/\\/\\\/\/\\/\/\/\\//\//\\\/\\//\/\///\///\\\//\\//////\///\/\\\\\\///\\\\/\\\\\/\///\\\/\///\\\\\/\/\\/\/\\\//\//\//\/\\\/\\\\\//\\////\//\\\/\/\\///\///\//\//////\/////\\//\\///\//\\\\\/\/\\/\//\\///\\/\\\////////\\\//\///\\//\/\\\/\////\///\\ 00:39:24 yeah spamming is shachaf's job :-U 00:40:58 -!- sebbu has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 00:41:16 !slashes //\//\\\\//\///\\\\\\////\\\\//\\\/\\/\\\/\/\\/\/\/\\//\//\\\/\\//\/\///\///\\\//\\//////\///\/\\\\\\///\\\\/\\\\\/\///\\\/\///\\\\\/\/\\/\/\\\//\//\//\/\\\/\\\\\//\\////\//\\\/\/\\///\///\//\//////\/////\\//\\///\//\\\\\/\/\\/\//\\///\\/\\\////////\\\//\///\\//\/\\\/\////\///\\ 00:41:45 huh, why is that the same as the /dev/urandom tr'ed output? 00:42:01 * ais523 gets suspicious 00:42:03 oh 00:42:08 it's you saying it not a bot 00:42:36 SPOOOOKY 00:42:48 oerjan isn't a bot? 00:42:51 oh it starts with // no wonder it output nothing 00:43:14 do we know for sure oerjan isn't a bot? 00:43:27 all humans are bots, duh 00:43:38 Ö 00:44:01 hellørjan 00:44:01 `run cat /dev/urandom | tr -cd 'A-Za-z' | tr 'A-Z' \\ | tr 'a-z' / | head -c 10 00:44:03 some of them are just programmed not to believe it 00:44:04 tr: warning: an unescaped backslash at end of string is not portable \ //////\//\ 00:44:12 `run cat /dev/urandom | tr -cd 'A-Za-z' | tr 'A-Z' \\\\ | tr 'a-z' / | head -c 10 00:44:15 \\\\\\//// 00:44:17 `run tr -cd '/\' < /dev/urandom 00:44:19 tr: warning: an unescaped backslash at end of string is not portable \ \/\//\\\\//\\////\\\//\////\/\\/\\\///////\/\/\\//////\/////\//\////\////\\////\////\\/\/////\////\///\//////\\\////\\//\\\\\\\///\////////\/\\///\/\/\/\/\/\/\\/\///\//\/\///\\//\\\//\///\/\\\///\\\/\/////\////\\/\\//\/\/\\/\/\////\\/\//\\\\//\\//\/\\//\\\\\/\/\\\/\/\\//\\/\/\\/ 00:44:21 `run cp -a bin/quoerjan bin/quørjan 00:44:25 No output. 00:44:30 `quørjan 00:44:32 585) But wait what if I'm using a quantum computer <-- there is "quantum entropy". it's the same except no one understands it. \ 16) oerjan: are you a man, if there weren't evil in this kingdom to you! you shall find bekkler! executing program. please let me go... put me out! he's really a tricycle! pass him! \ 59) * oe 00:44:41 `shachaf 00:44:50 /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: shachaf: not found 00:44:57 `run declare -a x=('╱' '╲');while true;do echo -n ${x[$(($RANDOM%2))]};done 00:45:10 ╱╱╲╲╱╲╲╲╲╱╱╲╲╱╱╲╱╱╱╲╲╲╱╱╲╱╲╱╱╲╲╱╱╲╱╱╱╲╲╱╲╱╱╲╱╲╲╲╱╲╲╲╲╲╲╲╱╱╱╲╱╲╱╱╱╲╱╲╲╲╱╲╱╲╲╱╱╱╱╲╱╱╱╱╲╱╲╲╱╱╲╱╱╱╲╲╲╱╲╲╱╲╱╲╱╱╲╱╲╱╱╲╲╲╱� 00:45:12 i sometimes think shachaf seems a little obsessed with me, what do you think? 00:45:22 oerjan: Just with your name. 00:45:26 It's a great name 00:45:31 true, true 00:45:39 I could say ørjan all day. 00:45:42 character encoding fails? 00:45:45 ørjan ørjan ørjan 00:46:16 Are there any english words with /ø/? 00:46:25 `run declare -a x=('╱' '╲');while true;do echo -n ${x[$(($RANDOM/4%2))]};done 00:46:27 ╱╱╲╱╱╲╱╲╱╲╲╲╱╱╱╲╲╱╱╲╲╱╱╲╲╲╱╱╱╲╱╲╱╲╲╲╱╱╱╱╲╲╲╲╲╱╲╲╱╲╱╱╱╱╲╲╲╱╲╱╱╲╱╱╲╱╱╲╱╲╱╱╱╱╱╲╲╱╲╲╱╱╲╲╱╱╱╲╱╲╱╲╲╲╱╱╱╱╱╲╲╲╲╱╲╲╱╲╲╱╱╲╱╲╱� 00:46:28 ønglish 00:46:33 place names? i can't think of any loanwords 00:46:51 Not a lone word. 00:46:55 oh or do you mean the phoneme 00:47:00 elliott subtly(*) hints that shachaf is obsessed with _everyone_. (*) that is, he didn't actually say it 00:47:13 Yes, the phoneme 00:47:20 * FreeFull kisses shachaf to break the obsession curse 00:47:25 elliott: very subtle 00:48:15 FireFly: wikipedia says it's present in south african english "bird". 00:49:21 is it a børd? is it a plejn? 00:49:45 `run while true; do printf "\xe2\x95\xb$(($RANDOM%2+1))"; done 00:49:46 ╱╱╱╲╲╲╲╲╲╲╱╱╱╱╲╱╲╲╱╱╲╱╱╲╱╱╲╲╲╲╲╱╲╲╲╲╱╲╱╲╱╱╲╲╱╲╲╱╱╱╲╲╱╱╲╲╲╲╲╱╲╲╲╲╱╲╲╲╱╲╱╱╱╲╱╱╱╱╲╱╱╱╲╲╱╲╲╱╱╲╲╲╲╱╲╱╱╲╲╱╱╱╲╱╲╱╱╱╲╲╲╱╲╱╲� 00:49:49 ffs 00:50:24 `run while true; do LC_ALL=en_US.utf-8 printf "\xe2\x95\xb$(($RANDOM%2+1))"; done 00:50:27 ╱╱╲╱╲╲╲╱╱╲╱╱╲╱╲╲╱╱╱╱╲╲╲╲╱╱╲╱╱╲╱╲╲╱╱╲╱╲╱╱╱╱╲╱╱╱╲╱╲╱╲╱╲╲╲╲╱╱╱╱╱╱╱╲╱╱╲╲╱╲╱╲╲╲╲╱╱╲╱╲╲╲╲╱╲╱╱╲╱╲╱╱╲╲╱╱╱╱╲╱╲╲╲╲╱╲╱╱╱╲╲╱╱╱╲� 00:51:31 I guess "bird" is pretty close 00:52:05 Well, okay, somewhat close 00:52:17 elliott is now subtly(*) angry at me for referring to things he said in private, especially when he never said them. (*) ARGH STOP HITTING ME WITH THAT 00:52:48 * FireFly subtly swats oerjan -----### 00:56:43 all these copycat swatters around these days 00:56:46 -!- sebbu has joined. 00:56:46 -!- sebbu has quit (Changing host). 00:56:46 -!- sebbu has joined. 00:59:24 :t Monad 00:59:25 Not in scope: data constructor `Monad' 01:00:00 * shachaf swats the copycats -----### 01:00:55 oerjan: What did he actually say to you? 01:00:58 :k Monad 01:01:00 (* -> *) -> Constraint 01:09:14 http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Monad_tutorials_timeline 01:09:32 jesus christ. 01:09:46 while true; do printf "\e[3$(($RANDOM%3+2));1m\xe2\x95\xb$(($RANDOM%2+1))"; done 01:10:39 kmc: Is it just me or does that slow down the longer you leave it running? 01:12:25 a lot of terminals suck at scrolling non-ascii chars 01:14:17 urxvt 01:14:59 elliott: shachaf: sorry, i said too much stupid. 01:15:52 (much more stupid than whatever elliott said, anyway.) 01:20:10 `monad-tutorial 01:20:11 All space stations must put their astronauts into space suits before sending them out. 01:20:31 wat 01:20:35 `cat bin/monad-tutorial 01:20:37 #!/bin/sh \ shuf -n 1 wisdom/monad-tutorials 01:20:50 oerjan: prints random monad analogies from a list :-) 01:20:57 `monad-tutorial 01:20:58 All space stations must put their astronauts into space suits before sending them out. 01:21:02 (all actual examples of the breed scoured from the internet) 01:21:16 `monad-tutorial 01:21:18 Monads are like burritos. 01:21:31 the burrito thing is not from an actual monad tutorial. 01:21:51 @quote copumpkin monads.are 01:21:52 copumpkin says: monads are like monad tutorials 01:21:52 elliott: yeah but it's funny so. 01:21:56 @quote copumpkin monads.are.just 01:21:56 No quotes match. :( 01:22:01 Oh I like that one 01:22:01 @quote copumpkin terminal 01:22:01 copumpkin says: a monad is just a lax functor from a terminal bicategory, duh. fuck that monoid in category of endofunctors shit 01:22:03 @quote monad 01:22:03 psykotic says: the reader monad is your friend. trust the reader monad. be happy! 01:22:18 `cat wisdom/monad-tutorials 01:22:18 monad tutorial jokes are the most overdone thing in the universe 01:22:20 Monads are a bucket brigade with project managers. \ Monads are like burritos. \ Think of a monad as a spacesuite full of nuclear waste in the ocean next to a container of apples. now, you can't put oranges in the space suite or the nucelar waste falls in the ocean, but the apples are carried around anyway, and you just take what you need. \ All sp 01:22:23 this is bad 01:22:24 `run echo "Monads are like monad tutorials." >> wisdom/monad-tutorials 01:22:27 No output. 01:22:27 `rm wisdom/monad-tutorials 01:22:31 No output. 01:22:32 @quote burrito 01:22:32 jmcarthur says: web monads are unicorn burritos that have been laying around in the attic for a few years 01:22:33 `rm bin/monad-tutorial 01:22:36 No output. 01:22:40 @quote burrito 01:22:40 kmc says: une monade est comme une crêpe. una mónada es como un burrito. eine Monade ist wie ein Strudel 01:22:45 monqy: >:-( 01:22:52 shut up about monad tutorials shut up shut up shut up 01:22:57 @quote monqy 01:22:57 Plugin `quote' failed with: getRandItem: empty list 01:23:01 thanks monqy 01:23:03 rude 01:23:07 you'rewelcomechaf 01:23:22 monqy: what's a better topic to talk about 01:23:31 > words "Yep, these are words." 01:23:31 how about lens :-) 01:23:32 ["Yep,","these","are","words."] 01:23:39 lens tutorial 01:23:45 @quote lens 01:23:46 roconnor says: a lens is a monoidal natural transformation between higher-order coalgebra functors, what's the problem? 01:24:02 @quote coalgebra 01:24:03 roconnor says: a lens is a monoidal natural transformation between higher-order coalgebra functors, what's the problem? 01:24:03 i think a monad may have hurt monqy once 01:24:11 `? lens 01:24:13 A lens is just a store comonad coalgebra. 01:24:21 wow, i understand a positively weird amount of that question 01:24:22 `? store 01:24:24 store? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 01:24:31 I apologies for not having the same sense of humour as monqy I guess (!) 01:24:48 `? coalgebra 01:24:50 coalgebra? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 01:24:51 monad tutorial jokes are old as heck 01:25:00 `? heck 01:25:02 heck? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 01:25:05 Oh okay, I'll go turn myself in to the Fun Police immediately 01:25:33 monqy is right btw 01:25:48 `learn Heck is where you end up if you don't believe in Gosh. 01:25:58 monad tutorial jokes are older than programming 01:26:00 I still want to know what an endospacesuit is for, though 01:26:02 I knew that. 01:26:26 possibly related to endoscopy? 01:27:17 `run rm -r gktemp 01:27:20 No output. 01:27:22 `run rm -r luabuild 01:27:22 there have been movies about that. 01:27:27 No output. 01:27:50 about luabuild 01:27:51 ? 01:28:31 `run rm bin/update the_list 01:28:32 Do new versions of C allow duplicate definitions? 01:28:36 No output. 01:29:23 GreyKnight: are you removing everything you added to the bot because monqy removed one thing you added to the bot 01:30:08 I removed two temp directories and a bit of humour which nobody cared about? 01:30:19 `run echo "shachaf, elliot" > the_list 01:30:22 No output. 01:30:31 Bike: it's gotta be newline separated 01:30:46 i applaud the sentiment though 01:30:46 boring 01:31:00 `run echo -e "shachaf\nelliot" > the_list 01:31:02 No output. 01:32:09 -!- ChanServ has set channel mode: +o oerjan. 01:33:00 -!- oerjan has set channel mode: -o oerjan. 01:34:48 Interestingly I only found a handful of monad tutorial things which were halfway amusing. Most of the hits for "monad tutorial" are people complaining about how many monad tutorials there are 01:35:20 I suppose the next level is people complaining about how many complaints there are about how many monad tutorials there are? 01:35:35 that's when it's time to just lay down and smoke a bit 01:36:11 setting fire to yourself is not the answer Bike 01:36:31 oerjan: ? 01:36:34 hey it worked pretty well in africa right 01:38:24 … 01:38:51 that guy was tunisian, right? 01:38:59 yep he was. go me. 01:39:27 he got a postage stamp! 01:42:46 elliott: ! 01:43:03 -!- TeruFSX has joined. 01:44:32 -!- ais523 has quit. 01:45:42 -!- GreyKnight has quit (Quit: zzz). 01:45:58 Is there a way in a C program to tell to open a file with read-only and not allow other programs to write to that file while this program keeps it open for reading? 01:46:32 no I don't think that's something you can do in portable C 01:46:45 different operating systems have different forms of (advisory or mandatory) file locking 01:46:48 that sounds like something you need os-dependent locks for 02:02:34 Is there any such section (in ELF and so on) as a section which cannot read/write/execute but is guaranteed to be unique pointers, which is not valid and is not the same as any valid pointers? 02:04:08 .section .zzo 02:05:25 -!- azaq23 has left. 02:11:06 well in ELF you can have custom sections of any name with whatever permissions you like 02:20:22 But can the system and the programming language support such things which I specified? 02:31:23 i don't understand totally what you mean 02:31:25 but probably 02:32:51 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 02:35:26 System and Method to Support Such Things Which I Specified 02:55:59 -!- mig21a has joined. 02:56:05 -!- mig21a has quit (Client Quit). 02:58:23 Accordion #3! 02:58:24 Gregor: You have 3 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them. 02:58:41 Gregor: How many of them are chromatic button accordions? 02:58:56 shachaf: Zero! This is three because #1 is in Oregon and I sold #2. 02:59:05 They were all roughly equivalent accordions. 02:59:08 *are 02:59:10 You should acquire a chromatic button accordion. 02:59:14 You would be a happier person. 02:59:17 shachaf: I would love to. Ain't gonna happen. 02:59:34 shachaf: I don't think you understand. My initial goal was a chromatic button accordion. Piano accordions are meh. But it just isn't going to happen. 02:59:51 Better no accordion than a piano accordion! 03:00:06 Well now you're just being silly. 03:00:18 Gregor: How about a concertina? 03:00:20 "Better no news than good news," goes the old saying. 03:00:28 One of the sane ones. 03:00:28 shachaf: Concertinas aren't even chromatic! 03:00:34 Gregor: Some of them are! 03:00:43 That one layout, what's-it-called. 03:01:03 Oh, apparently some of them are, quoth Wikipedia. 03:01:11