< 1358468764 372110 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote Usually I'd use Rankine, but the fucking weather doesn't support it. < 1358468768 271268 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :920) Usually I'd use Rankine, but the fucking weather doesn't support it. < 1358468792 794922 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I cannot live without list comprehensions < 1358468803 804714 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure you can! < 1358468810 88648 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :just use do-notation instead! < 1358468857 350732 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> do x <- [1..10]; y <- [1..10]; return (x*y) < 1358468858 685141 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,2,4,6,8,10,12,14,16,18,20,3,6,9,12,15,18,21,24,27,30,... < 1358468891 540371 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is struggling with Smalltalk < 1358468892 875385 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> join.liftM2(*)$[1..10] < 1358468894 268832 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match type `[]' with `(->) [a0]' < 1358468897 120263 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :eep < 1358468950 803112 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> join`id`liftM2(*)$[1..10] < 1358468952 136316 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,2,4,6,8,10,12,14,16,18,20,3,6,9,12,15,18,21,24,27,30,... < 1358468967 751842 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : #((1 2 3) #(4 5 6)) reduce: [:x :y | < 1358468967 974264 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : x gather: [:a | < 1358468968 154284 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : y collect: [:b | a + b]]] < 1358468974 367111 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea what's going on in that < 1358469009 225761 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1358469018 435005 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> liftM2(*)`join`[1..10] < 1358469020 15007 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,2,4,6,8,10,12,14,16,18,20,3,6,9,12,15,18,21,24,27,30,... < 1358469190 696612 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? helsinki < 1358469191 945119 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :helsinki? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1358469233 15044 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Helsinki is the capital of Finland. Its main suburb is Hexham in Northumberland. < 1358469236 589500 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1358469273 36040 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan: Fix this immediately. <-- OKAY < 1358469307 967713 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that wasn't very immediate < 1358469318 142641 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was immediate on logreading < 1358469323 251925 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1358469357 805717 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sed -i 's/ in/,/' wisdom/helsinki < 1358469358 733039 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usage: sed [OPTION]... {script-only-if-no-other-script} [input-file]... \ \ -n, --quiet, --silent \ suppress automatic printing of pattern space \ -e script, --expression=script \ add the script to the commands to be executed \ -f script-file, --file=script-file \ add the contents of script- < 1358469362 881505 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's/ in/,/' wisdom/helsinki < 1358469365 580461 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1358469369 368435 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: I'm more confused on what #((1 2 3) #(4 5 6)) is. An array of a list and an array would just be too easy. < 1358469370 962462 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? helsinki < 1358469372 301789 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Helsinki is the capital of Finland. Its main suburb is Hexham, Northumberland. < 1358469377 505570 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm < 1358469381 981450 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p5B02DED4.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [Firefox 18.0/20130104151925] < 1358469386 505991 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's/ / /' wisdom/helsinki < 1358469389 489147 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1358469393 29553 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? helsinki < 1358469394 362220 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Helsinki is the capital of Finland. Its main suburb is Hexham, Northumberland. < 1358469422 160566 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, I'm guessing just a redundant # < 1358469427 621736 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hexham < 1358469428 762648 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hexham is a European town. There are nine people in Hexham, and at least two of them are in this channel. Taneb looks after the ham. < 1358469443 20948 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Both with and without the inner # ends up printing #(#(1 2 3) #(4 5 6)) < 1358469456 113498 :comex`!~comex@ec2-23-22-255-183.compute-1.amazonaws.com NICK :comex < 1358469481 244190 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Bike is from Luxembourg. < 1358469484 448819 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1358469520 880626 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Fiora is from some island somewhere. < 1358469524 524784 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1358469544 11605 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: i feel these lack a certain something. < 1358469553 968669 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm too tired for something < 1358469558 969048 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's not just truth < 1358469567 708056 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter PRIVMSG #esoteric :beaky is on C :D < 1358469571 331477 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Fiora is from some island somewhere. She just doesn't want to be bothered, as she works out her domination plan as immortal queen of the dragons. < 1358469574 739390 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1358469586 549831 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's/ / /' wisdom/fiora < 1358469589 699431 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1358469596 660290 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanerjan. < 1358469604 256696 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Thoerjan. < 1358469626 89575 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: DON'T SPEAK LIKE THAT ABOUT YOUR THANE < 1358469627 500723 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's/Than/Tho/' wisdom/bike < 1358469627 714590 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh http://sprunge.us/TLTi < 1358469628 829243 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1358469640 540434 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :c00kiemon5ter: holy shit XD < 1358469655 776680 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter PRIVMSG #esoteric :who is collecting the beaky quotes ? :P < 1358469665 66767 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :c00kiemon5ter, idiot or troll? < 1358469674 467524 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :c00kiemon5ter: actually i know a guy was doing wacky things with llvm bitcode to get partial evaluation in compiled C, it was cool < 1358469680 530147 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Don't do that in front of kmc btw or he'll say you're trolling by proxy) < 1358469705 826567 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly need scare quotes for "partial evaluation" but whatevs < 1358469712 863341 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :soon Beaky will be emulating STG by hand < 1358469761 346025 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter PRIVMSG #esoteric :.. earlier: http://sprunge.us/OaUL < 1358469799 434412 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"imo goto is like the lambda of imperative programming" Holy shit. He's reverse-Steele! < 1358469831 163336 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sheesh everyone knows it's tail recursion which is goto. < 1358469856 59648 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what areyou people doing <_> < 1358469881 536300 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: stalking, i think < 1358469910 836186 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :climbing the Beaky-stalk < 1358469923 95368 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, C doesn't have garbage collection... < 1358469936 796655 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does with boehm!!! < 1358469942 393469 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has this half-suspicion that beaky is cheater or something. < 1358469946 882343 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter PRIVMSG #esoteric :boehmmmm < 1358469950 735091 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: hm.... < 1358469951 644720 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::< < 1358469952 536934 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is bad < 1358469958 555852 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah so i've heard < 1358469964 548867 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well he's not cheater < 1358469972 823667 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless cheater is proxying through UAE < 1358469977 766377 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also maybe not a he. < 1358469980 139881 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :beaky is or something, okay < 1358469998 908247 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: hey, I discovered that my thing won't work unless I add some stuff to circumvent my solution to that one problem. < 1358470011 787682 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: are you secretly beaky < 1358470053 357809 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha! < 1358470056 795959 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora is from the uae! < 1358470065 504515 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What proble, and why do you need to circumvent your solution, is your solution bad? < 1358470087 793612 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :._. < 1358470096 180922 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the problem is that NFU is not cartesian closed: there is no function ((a -> b) * a) -> b. < 1358470108 370102 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter PRIVMSG #esoteric :is Fiora a terrorist ? < 1358470110 998078 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe... maybe Fiora is from everywhere < 1358470116 292642 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe we are all Fiora < 1358470124 406114 :augur!~augur@c-69-138-251-193.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1358470130 269590 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :My solution is to let Si a be the set of one-element subsets of a; then we can circumvent this non-cartesian-closure by having a function ((a -> b) * Si a) -> Si b, instead. < 1358470135 401966 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION would be Fiora if Fiora had cookies < 1358470147 64037 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett, stop logicing up our channel! < 1358470160 274879 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: but I'm talking about a relatively esoteric set theory! < 1358470173 376201 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IS IT TURING COMPLETE < 1358470174 727785 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has no idea what tswett is doing < 1358470192 372978 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes i was a little bemused by that < 1358470194 658787 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION needs food < 1358470208 620644 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh... well, it's equiconsistent with ZFC. < 1358470209 994527 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ummm cookies? I like cookies < 1358470212 49839 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :are they chcoolate < 1358470221 338128 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, no < 1358470222 510893 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pasta. With Parmesan cheese. < 1358470227 781021 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1358470232 44632 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: and tomato sauce? < 1358470233 603764 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is the sort of cookies that they are < 1358470233 784161 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: You americans call all biscuits cookies right? < 1358470242 912487 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett, no < 1358470244 442577 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, and they call scones biscuits! < 1358470253 655904 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only use ketchup when there's no cheese < 1358470255 460815 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :So *that's* what the Brits call biscuits. < 1358470261 312004 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :So... what do they call scones? < 1358470262 201392 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Americans are weird. < 1358470269 911524 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's a scone? I've heard of them < 1358470272 364251 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: What do you call scones??? < 1358470277 530215 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_, it's like a biscuit < 1358470284 985310 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: as far as I know, American scones are the same thing as British scones. < 1358470301 784567 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a little cakey thing but harder and not as sweet < 1358470307 937772 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The first I've been exposed to the word "scone" was in Dilbert < 1358470310 421450 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Americans don't even have, like, digestives do they? < 1358470314 688867 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do they live? < 1358470324 675682 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where Dilbert gives a guy a styrofoam cup and claims it's a scone < 1358470346 385240 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :My only exposure to digestive biscuits is an episode of Arthur in which the titular character discovers a tin of them buried in his back yard. < 1358470353 251648 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter PRIVMSG #esoteric :((cookies -> omnomnom) => happines true) < 1358470359 360183 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :He decides they probably have something to do with Reader's Digest. < 1358470368 482985 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : is Fiora a terrorist ? <-- not everyone from the uae is a terrorist, c00kiemon5ter. some are filthy rich oil billionaires or their slaves. < 1358470372 746313 :TeruFSX2!~TeruFSX@174-20-15-143.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1358470385 350134 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aha: < 1358470391 663589 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Round-shaped British scones can resemble North American biscuits in appearance, but scones rely on cold butter for their delicate, flaky texture, while biscuits are more often made with animal fat or vegetable shortening and are crumbly rather than flaky." < 1358470440 990389 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, butter is animal fat... right? < 1358470443 600225 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: they do, in fact. < 1358470453 963624 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw you guys should have digestives they are really quite nice despite appearances < 1358470457 730704 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does "animal fat" mean something other than "fat that comes from an animal"? < 1358470462 610764 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/1994-05-06/ < 1358470464 830818 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: what do you think of chocolate digestives < 1358470469 793538 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Uh... well, it's equiconsistent with ZFC. <-- completely equi-? < 1358470476 582712 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, INFERIOR < 1358470489 866938 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The other mention of scones in Dilbert that I haven't seen until now http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/2004-01-28/ < 1358470499 212072 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I think so? ZFC is consistent if and only if NFU is consistent, if I remember correctly. < 1358470512 131806 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I think they are pretty good sometimes < 1358470517 708527 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: maybe you have had the milk chocolate kind < 1358470520 311560 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that kind is not very good < 1358470531 857252 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1358470538 929172 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :biscuit minimalism is the only way < 1358470540 539451 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :British biscuits sound like crappy cookies. < 1358470557 670982 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett, can you dunk cookies answer no < 1358470559 725520 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :qed < 1358470567 936801 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Therefore, Oreos are biscuits? < 1358470578 742808 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1358470579 611651 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I must consult oreo.co.uk. < 1358470580 484666 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-130-33.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1358470581 929096 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't count < 1358470600 804939 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, they are. < 1358470609 871461 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :British Oreos are biscuits. < 1358470616 527478 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :And they have telly ads. < 1358470657 837529 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: it doesn't count as animal fat if the animal survives the procedure, thus butter isn't. < 1358470666 663969 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I see. < 1358470874 362127 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :GRRRR I HATE THIS APARTMENT < 1358470893 870887 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :STUPID FLY/BUG/WHATEVER DECIDED TO DIE IN MY POT OF BOILING WATER RIGHT BEFORE I WENT TO PUT SOME PASTA IN < 1358470921 818274 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no < 1358470926 518694 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :otoh < 1358470930 349503 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could use some protein < 1358470935 421614 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oreos aren't very good < 1358470952 365958 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean it's not that they're bad < 1358470957 475748 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they say the biscuity parts are chocolate < 1358470960 326537 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they plainly ain't < 1358470968 411795 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I poured out the water and started again < 1358470969 82074 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they don't taste of chocolate it just tastes of... black < 1358470974 672671 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm very annoyed because I'm hungry < 1358470991 66819 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_, uh don't you boil it in a kettle and then pour it onto the pasta < 1358471005 915614 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is that thing about americans not having kettles actually true?? < 1358471006 940373 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.175 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1358471017 401030 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I've seen a kettle onc < 1358471018 767577 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :once < 1358471022 94634 :augur!~augur@c-69-138-251-193.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1358471027 694053 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you make tea exactly < 1358471037 20360 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION doesn't make tea < 1358471045 285798 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if you want to boil water < 1358471048 944640 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. to make pasta < 1358471050 566402 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you like boil it in a pan and use that < 1358471061 192200 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, put it in the pot, turn stove on, wait 15 minutes < 1358471082 982758 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(there is probably some wasted time but don't care) < 1358471089 529229 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1358471127 602580 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok how do you make like < 1358471128 775768 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coffee < 1358471135 942521 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you weird americans < 1358471137 271162 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :& your weird american bvgs < 1358471145 35856 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have machines < 1358471153 219151 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow abbreviating beverages as "bvgs" feels at least 120% punk < 1358471158 380937 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bvgs bvgs bvgs < 1358471195 622139 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :observe process of coddled american trying to make coffee without assistance from mechanical nanny: http://www.shamusyoung.com/twentysidedtale/?p=2056 < 1358471224 798021 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I assume other Americans do have kettles, btw < 1358471242 323376 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do not assume that I am a typical American < 1358471271 821341 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: update < 1358471275 195872 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`list < 1358471276 169570 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo alot < 1358471280 996481 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, awesome < 1358471294 732731 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_, oooh ooh ooh < 1358471302 714030 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you say 'pahsta' instead of 'pasta' < 1358471319 837955 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the difference pronounciation-wise? < 1358471325 433679 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1358471335 251267 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah as in open mouth say ahh? < 1358471339 786465 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :construct in your head the Standard American British Person < 1358471343 900186 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :have him say 'parsta' < 1358471398 981830 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: i don't read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Foundations as implying NFU is as strong as ZFC. "to our usual base theory, NFU + Infinity + Choice. This base theory, known consistent, has the same strength as TST + Infinity, or Zermelo set theory with Separation restricted to bounded formulas (Mac Lane set theory)." < 1358471472 753684 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :queen of the dragons eh < 1358471485 158430 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :scroll down, kmc < 1358471504 499575 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: do you have a kettle < 1358471519 94279 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'Disgruntled Williamsburg Resident Arrested After Making 403 Phony 911 Calls About Hipsters' not the onion < 1358471526 297479 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yes why < 1358471531 184276 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i'm surver < 1358471532 598825 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ying < 1358471533 302484 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :just a stove one, not an electric one < 1358471533 523671 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :aemrcians < 1358471536 163560 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1358471537 848379 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't count < 1358471545 468683 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're all so fucking weird < 1358471547 750999 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HOW DO YOU MAKE TEA < 1358471550 392220 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :at work we have a fancy japanese hot water heater than plays a tune when it's done < 1358471563 40658 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we make tea by boiling water on the stove < 1358471570 97081 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's so much fuss though < 1358471654 101426 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, how does that work < 1358471657 599924 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't the kettle melt < 1358471729 440836 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I might not know what a kettle is < 1358471741 918123 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I though they're things that go on a stove that hold water and whistle when water is boiling < 1358471753 153222 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1358471771 588672 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes that is one kind of kettle < 1358471781 688979 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_, electric ones are made of plastic < 1358471784 179034 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is also the kind you plug in and they contain water and have a little poury thing and you press them and the water gets hot < 1358471784 480697 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for obvious reasons < 1358471792 921196 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1358471804 304911 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://tesco.scene7.com/is/image/tesco/778-6535_PI_TPS1508478?wid=170&hei=170&$Offers$ like this < 1358471816 356939 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :$Offers$ < 1358471865 336994 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my lecrci keetle has multiple materials < 1358471870 342375 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :some are metal?? < 1358471872 150273 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :17000x17000 is apparently an illegal image size < 1358471893 814694 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: it's metal < 1358471902 4208 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it's the whistly kind < 1358471905 571241 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: lecrci kettle < 1358471923 799323 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy, ok but the base at least is always plastic < 1358471933 119502 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does tesco put horse meat in their kettles < 1358471951 335829 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :base is plasticy-looking < 1358471965 737578 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: yes < 1358471976 811423 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you want one cup of tea you can also boil water in the microwave and then put a tea bag in < 1358471981 944028 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :watch out for superheated water < 1358471990 183943 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter PRIVMSG #esoteric :here is a nice kettle: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBw618geqyI < 1358472006 139237 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: by watch out for you mean aim for < 1358472031 95297 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean the thing where it's above boiling point but doesn't boil due to being in an ultra smooth container < 1358472036 602429 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it explodues when you put your spoon in < 1358472042 291159 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: but then the water aims for YOU! < 1358472052 50292 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's true, superheating water makes it russian < 1358472058 21402 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey are we talking about tea < 1358472058 242793 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :c00kiemon5ter, what the shit < 1358472080 494418 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1358472156 159532 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: yes but exploding tea is a good thing??? < 1358472187 290488 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, but it explodes before it becomes tea < 1358472217 136242 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :c00kiemon5ter: hahaha nice < 1358472232 158459 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the submerged pulsejet part looks like a bong < 1358472249 831295 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :c00kiemon5ter: wtf < 1358472316 375476 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :New Topic Foundation with Urelements | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1358472353 231588 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :überelements < 1358472367 806813 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the topic was nearly 10 days old, it smelled < 1358472478 287713 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: you make it into a tea cleverly befor eit explode sometimhow < 1358472506 263432 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, horrible, horrible solution: < 1358472518 48082 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :brew the tea cold, remove teabag, microwave < 1358472535 465359 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: perfect < 1358472536 411283 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are u using tea bags < 1358472544 839043 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: pshawwwwwwwwwwwwww tea snob pshawwwwwwwwwwwwwwww < 1358472549 666781 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1358472550 593614 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pshawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww < 1358472553 748993 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pshawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww < 1358472578 235280 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: for a start its not even allowed for americans to be tea snobs to brits < 1358472582 598821 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats the opposite of how its meant to be < 1358472590 412039 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :for an end pshawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww < 1358472636 403682 :augur!~augur@c-98-218-127-183.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1358472643 824329 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i forget did i mention pshawwww yet < 1358472645 715468 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pffff most teas arent even british < 1358472656 635056 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: look what he's saying < 1358472676 89236 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats like saying, most wines, arent french............... < 1358472680 744742 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: the important thing isnt who < 1358472691 993304 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its who oppressed and generally made life miserable for the people who < 1358472702 2047 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :we are really good at that < 1358472727 344938 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :scottish not so much < 1358472728 715406 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry Phantom_Hoover < 1358472734 801787 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't have our work ethic < 1358472745 66389 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you're not american so it's okay < 1358472787 162504 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote okay so i went to wikimapia per Bike and found a tiny little nowhere that looked like it might be it zoomed in thought aw yeah this looks remote maybe it's it turns out it's hawaii i am not very good at this < 1358472790 626486 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :921) okay so i went to wikimapia per Bike and found a tiny little nowhere that looked like it might be it zoomed in thought aw yeah this looks remote maybe it's it turns out it's hawaii i am not very good at this < 1358472833 737751 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: also are you saying you drink american teas < 1358472837 159548 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pshawww pshawww ww w w ww < 1358472837 876104 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1358472867 562117 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like lots of teas!!!! have you tried chinese & japanese teas < 1358472874 971324 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats like drinking american wine < 1358472882 931058 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1358472889 473714 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy you literally cant hear how hard im pshawing right now < 1358472894 739703 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but its definitely too loud to do anything but pshaw < 1358472899 236127 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't have the soul of a tea-drinker < 1358472904 100831 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :tea for dong < 1358472909 148096 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably you don't even have milk with it < 1358472921 905324 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :youre right i dont have milk with it < 1358472925 205121 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :see < 1358472937 958958 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i bet you have like a little ritual < 1358472945 421298 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :where you pray to the tea first or sth < 1358472950 987195 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at least use special gloves < 1358472964 332338 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i just use my normal hands < 1358472976 501295 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: is it loud enough to hear over that jettle thing? < 1358472980 482067 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that's not the point! < 1358472993 460360 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats the point..... < 1358473001 379843 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop drinking tea < 1358473004 501332 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1358473007 872977 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're doing it wrong < 1358473015 427761 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no............... < 1358473095 344158 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you dont stop, elliott will fly there with his jettle to teach you a lesson < 1358473103 861759 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter PRIVMSG #esoteric :a lesson on how to have tea < 1358473207 114484 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION time to dream cookies 0.0 < 1358473242 820234 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote Taneb: STOP TRYING TO GET LENS INTO EVERYTHING Bike: You should use lens! NEVER shachaf: i'm getting mixed messages here < 1358473246 120954 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :922) Taneb: STOP TRYING TO GET LENS INTO EVERYTHING Bike: You should use lens! NEVER shachaf: i'm getting mixed messages here < 1358473258 956982 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :um is that spacing really correct < 1358473262 879715 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1358473266 354914 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the second space is wider than the first < 1358473284 774765 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i '922s/ / /g' quotes < 1358473289 137268 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1358473291 740877 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 922 < 1358473293 357397 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :922) Taneb: STOP TRYING TO GET LENS INTO EVERYTHING Bike: You should use lens! NEVER shachaf: i'm getting mixed messages here < 1358473334 659662 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: apparently vim puts two spaces after ! when autojoining lines < 1358473350 608582 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Emacs does that too, it's annoying < 1358473360 763464 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you just learn to live with double spaces at the end of a sentence < 1358473824 327423 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "The pacific ocean is half the world and surrounded by fire. The atlantic ocean is less cool than its giant underwater moutain range. The arctic ocean is cold. The indian ocean is full of typhoons and non-eurocentric shipping." >wisdom/oceans < 1358473827 431428 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1358473829 393756 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1358473831 909299 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm < 1358473857 610063 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's/ / /g' wisdom/oceans < 1358473861 84438 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1358473881 168979 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i thought your wisdom fit better as wisdom than as a quote. hth. < 1358474230 434738 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I don't hate OO as much as I thought I did < 1358474258 443310 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it h indeed < 1358474258 624264 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does that mean < 1358474260 928396 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does oo mean < 1358474262 398541 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In functional language channels, I tend to find myself asking hypotheticals that are easily resolved in an OO world < 1358474265 614028 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :object-oriented < 1358474271 178247 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: i'm sorry, haven't you been fucking with squeak for the last two... whenever after Racket was < 1358474273 316294 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does object-oriented mean < 1358474281 922692 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :encapsulation! < 1358474287 25764 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait add more exclamation marks < 1358474330 774141 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, I'm fucking around with Smalltalk because of the IDE and resumable exceptions, not because I suddenly decided to immerse myself in pure OOness < 1358474333 348605 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: are you new to sgeo < 1358474364 866051 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: anyway have you implemented Smalltalk-80 as a Racket language yet? < 1358474434 750640 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really see a point in doing so. Implementing Racket in a Smalltalk environment makes more sense to me < 1358474468 786550 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really like the Racket language and Smalltalk environment. Smalltalk-80 as a Racket language would be Smalltalk language and Racket environment. < 1358474479 833894 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :x/last shachaf < 1358474482 200671 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er. < 1358474524 435027 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/ha/cha/f < 1358474558 423164 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloegan < 1358474615 484731 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hallogen < 1358474959 317467 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hallogens, the gases that speak to you < 1358475027 396812 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION remembers when he started playing NetHack for the first time < 1358475033 817036 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did something, got Hallu in the status thing < 1358475049 385589 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it meant Hallelujah, I'm no longer hungry and I was hungry before < 1358475087 757358 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Halleloerjan! < 1358475089 506619 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (pi :: CReal) == (pi :: CReal) + 10^^(-100) < 1358475090 666495 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : True < 1358475098 226238 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :I CLAIM FOUL < 1358475101 234696 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hallu is the best status effect in that game < 1358475103 528520 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: It only checks 40 decimal digits. < 1358475120 577274 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FOUL, I SAY < 1358475128 519037 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Take it up with augustss. < 1358475155 389031 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :he'll just use argument from authority (him) < 1358475196 982855 :Bike_!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1358475210 554114 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love arguments from authority < 1358475220 87046 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oops! < 1358475227 300461 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you're a jew aren't you? i don't think you're supposed to be worshipping me like that. < 1358475261 116597 :Bike_!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does it only take forty digits... < 1358475277 830288 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I CAN WORSHIP WHOMEVER I WANT < 1358475282 45524 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: (How does that look?) < 1358475293 156609 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, ? < 1358475295 346449 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike_: People like their programs to terminate or something bizarre like that. < 1358475298 999572 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: That "whom". < 1358475308 899011 :Bike_!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are you trying to equate reals if you want to terminate < 1358475327 87616 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike_: They're computable reals. So you want to be able to COMPUTE equality???? < 1358475332 84886 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :use logic plz < 1358475346 419537 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1358475348 11948 :Bike_!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1358475351 419103 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (pi :: CReal) - (pi :: CReal) + 10^^(-100) < 1358475352 753034 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0.0 < 1358475360 227179 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yeah, that's OK < 1358475364 116218 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (pi :: CReal) - (pi :: CReal) < 1358475365 77181 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: show uses the same 40 digits. < 1358475365 257157 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0.0 < 1358475366 797406 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so they're just fancy floats < 1358475372 372183 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, guess not if it's just show < 1358475377 923820 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: No, you can get them to whatever precision you want. < 1358475378 369884 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"cool" < 1358475389 163440 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just that show/(==)/etc. take 40 digits. < 1358475396 231216 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there "equality up to n digits" standard too or < 1358475404 346089 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i'm just wondering how it can even calculate the digits. < 1358475407 651453 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (pi :: CReal) - (pi :: CReal) + 1 < 1358475408 950309 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1.0 < 1358475421 704996 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it has to round at some point < 1358475429 998035 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> showCReal 100 pi < 1358475431 522242 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375105820974944592307816406... < 1358475466 548441 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let sh = showCReal 100 in sh pi == sh (pi + 10^^(-100)) < 1358475467 809578 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : False < 1358475473 425778 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let sh = showCReal 40 in sh pi == sh (pi + 10^^(-100)) < 1358475475 91038 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : True < 1358475477 181167 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :∎ < 1358475493 493319 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :perl-style numeral comparison, i can dig it < 1358475503 978776 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also this reminds me of when i tried implementing cont frac arithmetic. that was dumb < 1358475540 69249 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'A cleaning woman stole an empty commuter train in a suburb of Stockholm and crashed it into a house, injuring herself' < 1358475600 811765 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i < 1358475602 421641 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :was the house built on train tracks < 1358475616 750893 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it probably derailed < 1358475619 421581 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :bad place to build a house imo < 1358475654 990717 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi elliott < 1358475665 824772 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: lemme look at the NFU home page again. < 1358475686 573352 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, Google is doing some serious Googlebottage of my website. < 1358475708 394420 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :NFU has a home page? < 1358475715 465743 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't stand it, i know you planned it < 1358475718 901497 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yep. http://math.boisestate.edu/~holmes/holmes/nf.html, by M. Randall Holmes. < 1358475726 49718 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Holmes states that NFU "is consistent". < 1358475729 693931 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :New Topic Foundation with Urelements | FOUR SIMULTANEOUS TYPE SYSTEMS IN A SINGLE ROTATION OF THE LAMBDA CUBE | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1358475729 911990 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How did it even get these URLs? < 1358475760 436489 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: that's quite an assertion < 1358475767 490878 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed. < 1358475768 891087 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: that just means it's not stronger than ZFC < 1358475784 174122 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: so it does. < 1358475813 628148 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, where's it say that on the page < 1358475824 217260 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see "NF is not known to be consistent" < 1358475826 70170 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :"NFU: New Foundations with urelements. This system is consistent, consistent with Choice, and does not prove Infinity but is consistent with it ( Jensen, 1969)." < 1358475829 513018 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, wait, nfu < 1358475832 239777 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1358475849 916950 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. NF seems like more of a curiosity. < 1358475856 496980 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's so nice < 1358475880 162818 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think NFU is significantly nicer. < 1358475908 996060 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :NFU is pretty much NF, without the assertion that all objects are sets, and with the assertion that given variables x and y, the ordered pair (x, y) has the same type as x and y. < 1358475962 311824 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :The result is a "consistent" theory that has a few nice properties that NF doesn't have. < 1358475987 105195 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, the type of a function is one higher, rather than three higher, than its elements. < 1358475996 777779 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i prefer inconsistent systems < 1358476001 113830 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are so easy < 1358476006 822987 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Inconsistent systems have their uses. < 1358476044 287179 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is consistent in scare quotes < 1358476064 194087 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf… < 1358476064 464187 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Consistent" here just means "consistent if (but not necessarily only if) ZFC is consistent", I think. < 1358476074 700571 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes, you want to be able to have an infinitely long proof, or a circular proof, or a proof that leaves some things out. < 1358476076 966058 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, ok. < 1358476090 172903 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@where falso < 1358476090 353255 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know nothing about falso. < 1358476097 317368 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@where+ falso http://www.inutile.ens.fr/estatis/falso/ < 1358476097 497567 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1358476123 477295 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Falso is an axiomatic system developed by Estatis Inc." shachaf what is this < 1358476143 660201 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it's a joke, ok < 1358476207 651305 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Proportion of true statements < 1358476216 347163 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ZFC 50%, Falso 99.9% < 1358476367 550009 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The above proofs and mathematical ideas are a trade secret and a trademark of Estatis Inc. and have also been copyrighted and patented." < 1358476374 24152 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patented trade secrets. The best kind of trade secrets. < 1358476421 421999 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :now that's what i call "so easy" < 1358476431 542266 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. yes, i love falso. < 1358476441 275344 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: it fits the theme of inconsistency! < 1358477085 957298 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24.212.152.46 JOIN :#esoteric < 1358477491 794537 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome david_werecat < 1358477493 351740 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :david_werecat: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1358477529 553015 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24.212.152.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1358479177 763533 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: rip list of places with fewer than ten residents < 1358479186 286982 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what it's gone already? < 1358479188 901744 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1358479191 36794 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :murdered < 1358479208 102528 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott.......is this your fault........... < 1358479213 4753 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1358479226 424329 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooooooo < 1358479283 926713 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: You should boycott Wikipedia. < 1358479320 95964 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I uh, I have four articles open already. < 1358479809 592999 :augur!~augur@c-98-218-127-183.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1358480144 515764 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi david_werecat < 1358482152 569769 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1358484446 438996 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION attacks the troll on our wiki head on for once. < 1358484490 690058 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which thinking about it may not be wise. < 1358484510 380806 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure "troll" is quite right :P < 1358484526 910018 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1358485634 498819 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://defragger.info/ < 1358485715 497638 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :man, i loved watching that thing < 1358486166 653218 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :now does anyone have skifree in browser < 1358486191 191959 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course I mean a cycle-accurate simulation of a 386 running the original skifree binary < 1358486192 585046 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my favorite is that chiptunes site that works like an amiga < 1358486205 799587 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you seen http://www.visual6502.org/JSSim/ < 1358486236 347961 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that the one that has a visual representation of it running? < 1358486383 298145 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1358486399 392022 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :derived from an actual micrograph of a 6502 die < 1358486427 185727 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i heard about that hwne it came out, i think it crashed my browser < 1358486455 902726 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :great < 1358486465 388365 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do I learn things about computers and audio? I know nothing at all. < 1358486477 408212 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's also http://bellard.org/jslinux/ of course < 1358486487 831945 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i kind of feel like there should be a list of Fabrice Bellard facts < 1358486488 722658 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one, shockingly, does actually run < 1358486517 376511 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: what specifically are you interested in? like, synth, the linux audio programming hellscape, compression formats? < 1358486521 131732 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a la chuck norris / oleg / whatever < 1358486524 347416 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's all played out though < 1358486559 38120 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it is fun to write small C programs that generate audio waveforms as (say) 16 bit unsigned integers on stdout, and then pipe them into 'play' with appropriate flags < 1358486573 830905 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :generate or filter, i should say < 1358486588 125355 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course sox/play can already generate lots of things itself < 1358486627 131771 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm currently writing Haskell programs that generates various byte patterns and piping into aplay. < 1358486631 335740 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is fun too < 1358486636 694090 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is indeed fun, but I have no idea what I'm doing. < 1358486681 42416 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know anything about audio waveforms. < 1358486698 726456 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose I should read about that. < 1358486709 940854 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mm < 1358486727 223294 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well sure there is plenty to read about < 1358486743 927839 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but more or less any function that's periodic in an audio frequency will generate some interesting sound < 1358486769 166708 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sine waves, square waves, triangles, sawtooths are classic examples < 1358486785 898249 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you can combine them however -- addition, multiplication < 1358486794 80826 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :multiply some noise by a sine wave etc. < 1358486806 681590 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :more than most programming toys it lends itself to immediate experimentation < 1358486812 295188 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if you add waves at different frequencies you can get harmonies! < 1358486824 697098 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :FM synthesis is cool < 1358486893 921735 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :some day i will synthesize strings and it will not sound horrible < 1358486895 582073 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :some day < 1358486940 986481 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you implement FM synth with a couple of knobs, and an ADSR envelope, then you are much of the way toward classic DOS game music (OPL3 / AdLib) < 1358486961 996041 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've had a lot of fun playing around with Adlib Tracker II < 1358486978 797208 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the UI is not great but you can find tutorials on youtube < 1358487005 215740 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf you should get really good at Adlib Tracker and then we can make a 4k demo for DOS < 1358487234 139424 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for one of the adlib emulators they decapped an actual OPL3 chip to read out its lookup tables for more accurate emulation < 1358487368 156152 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :These byte pattern sound a lot like old computer games. < 1358487658 755308 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which? < 1358487688 885344 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :None in particular. < 1358487753 317681 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :k < 1358488846 664374 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :k < 1358490814 7782 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1358490840 62842 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1358490897 177694 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1358491506 259057 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bluhhh it's -19 °C (-2 °F) out there. That's stupid. < 1358491527 284086 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :No it's not, it's a temperature. < 1358491530 370543 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should move to Australia? < 1358491545 715043 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I've heard there it's poisonous everything instead. < 1358491555 349441 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Every place is stupid in its own way, I understand. < 1358491568 686968 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I heard California is the place to be. < 1358491571 305304 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: Right? < 1358491592 984214 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought Fiora was Belgian. < 1358491611 714776 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I've heard you need to have flour in your head there, that doesn't sound fun. < 1358491612 502472 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Since Fiora is the same person as you, you ought to know. < 1358491629 855027 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs fizzie.*flour < 1358491641 919684 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, yes, I've said that before. < 1358491653 841155 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was wondering if it was you! < 1358491661 950545 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? bike < 1358491667 328718 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Bike < 1358491674 775301 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.10962 < 1358491674 955140 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gosh. < 1358491675 699557 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike is from Luxembourg. < 1358491675 880315 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike is from Luxembourg. < 1358491681 796950 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? bIkE < 1358491683 282282 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike is from Luxembourg. < 1358491686 456191 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1358491689 33793 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, guess she's from Luxembourg then. < 1358491694 567426 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But maybe she could be, uh, wherever I am now. < 1358491703 572049 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Maldives maybe. I hear they're nice. < 1358491866 857001 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Fiora < 1358491867 895301 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora is from some island somewhere. She just doesn't want to be bothered, as she works out her domination plan as immortal queen of the dragons. < 1358491886 689421 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? shachaf < 1358491887 841285 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf sprø som selleri < 1358491896 910884 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that French? < 1358491901 298842 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastequotes Bike < 1358491905 306983 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.32089 < 1358491914 285740 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :French with ø? < 1358491942 727238 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Frøncais < 1358491962 998648 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: !!!!!!! < 1358491966 990176 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't know about ^O < 1358491969 911215 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :O < 1358491974 983683 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :O changes everything! < 1358491981 485137 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What, remove formatting? < 1358491993 708395 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also: hackego needs to learn about content types. < 1358492003 695682 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean codu.org does? < 1358492056 359426 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure codu is just the peripheral manifestation of HackEgo. < 1358492600 334341 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1358492605 942956 :DH____!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1358492635 151652 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1358492636 262299 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :624) elliott: well how will you represent "The dog jumped over the lazy dog" then? < 1358492641 258139 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote Bike < 1358492641 695437 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sieni says: python, like php, is just training wheels without the bike < 1358492665 415746 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kind of a bad quote. < 1358492693 578117 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree. < 1358492703 646440 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote < 1358492703 827298 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorear says: (after someone complains of ghc using much memory) Only 500M? encode for lists is strict, I would have expected around 80GB usage... < 1358492712 480128 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote < 1358492712 660487 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hgolden says: pioneers are the ones with arrows in their backs. at least ours will be categorical arrows. < 1358492722 24004 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's with all these quotes < 1358492722 693653 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote < 1358492722 914154 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :robertmassaioli says: I hereby name (>=>) as "fish" and (<=<) as "back-fish", swim fishy swim, compose those Monads. < 1358492726 292981 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote < 1358492726 473081 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :vagif says: Sometimes i wish haskell would force me to do other good things in my life. Like for example start doing yoga or aikido again :) < 1358492752 703627 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :These quotes are from other lambdabottic channels, I assume? < 1358492758 299793 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote < 1358492758 480269 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :remember says: the 5th of november < 1358492764 970764 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mostly #haskell < 1358492766 82780 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote < 1358492766 263147 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :therp says: and minion pro comes with acrobat reader. I never thought that I would find this proprietary thing useful for anything than blocking my cpu < 1358492783 448120 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :These are boring. < 1358492787 89256 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Need more bikes imo < 1358492789 319850 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where are the good quotes? < 1358492790 783674 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote bike < 1358492790 963477 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sieni says: python, like php, is just training wheels without the bike < 1358492794 313503 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote bicycle < 1358492794 493582 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :No quotes match. Where did you learn to type? < 1358492797 425807 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote unicycle < 1358492797 605822 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :jjuggle says: I was riding around town and this cop on patrol on a bike rode up next to me and said, "There's always a show off." I offered to teach him to ride and help set up a unicycle patrol < 1358492797 606063 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :squad, but he declined. < 1358492806 446980 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, that's not bad. < 1358492808 679594 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote unicycle < 1358492808 894260 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :dons says: xerox: what analogy or metaphor did you use? monad-as-garbage-bin? monad-as-refrigerator? monads-as-unicycle? < 1358492815 699587 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote unicycle < 1358492815 917982 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale says: The real reason for the installed size of GHC being so large is that in the background it secretly downloads a video of SPJ riding a unicycle. < 1358492824 159295 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote unicycle < 1358492824 339419 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale says: The real reason for the installed size of GHC being so large is that in the background it secretly downloads a video of SPJ riding a unicycle. < 1358492824 520214 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...why are there so many unicycle quotes? < 1358492827 843998 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I may have a competitor here. < 1358492832 353925 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Unicycles are very popular in #haskell. < 1358492838 163350 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why so? < 1358492852 670180 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe because shapr (who started the channel) is a fan of them? < 1358492854 226141 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote mmorrow unicycle < 1358492854 405778 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmorrow says: in langs with dependent types, you can just map numbers directly to types instead of having to ride a unicycle along a tightrope while battling an unruly gang of monkey with knives < 1358492857 51866 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote gwern unicycle < 1358492857 274015 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gwern says: I sometimes think of writing Haskell fanfiction where I ship dons and SPJ. "'Dr. Simon...' Don trailed off - 'call me Simon', Simon said, standing erect on his unicycle" < 1358492867 351738 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I guess SPJ rides them? < 1358492870 100102 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Going by these quotes. < 1358492878 566254 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"rides" if you know what i mean < 1358492904 75040 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote love < 1358492904 255238 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :twb says: But, I love my job. It's like being in a rock band. i.e. no pay, but fun. < 1358492920 385583 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote love < 1358492921 774346 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :73) I can do everything a Turing machine can do, except love \ 134) I love logic, especially the part where it makes no sense. \ 137) Sgeo: hahaah, and i love when they announced it i dare u to press alt f4 and your house ( acts 16:31 your bible) \ 172) Vorpal loves the sodomy. elliott, sure why not \ < 1358492942 793198 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: do you love monoids? < 1358492944 127361 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: indeed you do. ;p cannabis and fnord are left to right < 1358492953 497498 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: do i love monoids? < 1358492954 577151 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :big fan of Either it seems < 1358492954 757470 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i don't suggest adding palette support and different color space can be on lots of srfis to provide different, incompatible features to do some of those pics taken out at daytime are underexposed, i guess < 1358492965 576216 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1358492966 245243 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc* iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1358492966 911396 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :color spaces in srfi. the horror... < 1358492988 266082 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: do you love anything < 1358492996 767748 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1358492998 101448 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(things like monoids or other things) < 1358493005 141357 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: what!not even monoids < 1358493015 221454 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are so easy :( < 1358493018 248043 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1358493030 800976 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's a comonoid? < 1358493031 468155 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love them though :D < 1358493042 506222 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Apparently comonoids are boring in Hask. < 1358493051 242933 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sucks. < 1358493127 308297 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quonqy < 1358493128 366634 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: quonqy: not found < 1358493129 479723 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1358493134 854151 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> :t monqy < 1358493136 222109 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:1: parse error on input `:' < 1358493137 334272 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1358493155 39906 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (:t) monqy < 1358493155 970582 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `monqy' < 1358493179 436595 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let (:t) = id < 1358493179 660044 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Parse error in pattern: : t < 1358493188 169145 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hooookay < 1358493188 390830 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike........ < 1358493198 43154 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some things are important, shachaf. < 1358493213 663821 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: You would do it by letting t = a list < 1358493218 228163 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it won't work. < 1358493267 480433 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (:t) < 1358493268 814896 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `[a0]' < 1358493268 995467 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : with actual type `Debug.Si... < 1358493278 72771 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (\:t) < 1358493279 443677 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `\:' < 1358493279 648074 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Perhaps you meant one of these: < 1358493279 648282 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : `\\' (imported from ... < 1358493286 113253 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :\ : < 1358493292 213823 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How am I supposd to have colons in identifiers! What an outrage. < 1358493314 609180 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :\: :\ < 1358493319 389757 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can have colons in identifiers. < 1358493325 321460 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :":" is magic, though. < 1358493334 639522 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And :t isn't an identifier.) < 1358493341 96495 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why not? It should be. < 1358493386 784011 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try #agda < 1358493403 680385 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can I learn Calegda? < 1358493426 563402 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ᄑ < 1358493452 323884 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't speak Korean, sorry. < 1358493546 166508 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Agda lets you name identifiers almost anything! < 1358493565 837678 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :agda identifier naming is cute < 1358493671 237018 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn NICK :SirCmpmn < 1358493675 945016 :SirCmpmn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn NICK :SirCmpwn < 1358494473 944426 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh no. :/ Every day I come to work, that dick is more and more tilted. < 1358494489 781403 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://dl.dropbox.com/u/113389132/Misc/20130110-crop.jpg -> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/113389132/Misc/20130118-crop.jpg that's like eight days. < 1358494514 943363 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's about man-high, in case the scale isn't quite obvious.) < 1358494672 159179 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of yours? < 1358494718 43055 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I just walk past it in the mornings these days. < 1358494720 509054 :md_5|away!md_5@mcdevs/trusted/md-5 NICK :md_5 < 1358494731 60048 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's approximately next to Ossinlampi there.) < 1358494902 77276 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I tried something -- did you get any Twitter notification? < 1358496470 363898 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-102.elisa.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1358497121 619860 :TeruFSX2!~TeruFSX@174-20-15-143.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1358499242 374604 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.175 JOIN :#esoteric < 1358499818 843278 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1358499906 781392 :atehwa!atehwa@188.127.205.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1358500081 285267 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.175 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1358501053 377895 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1358501133 272190 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1358501321 333563 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1358502151 916333 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1358503830 899797 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1358504405 120563 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie QUIT :Quit: Coyote finally caught me < 1358504432 373218 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie JOIN :#esoteric < 1358506432 29743 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-102.elisa.ee QUIT :Quit: Left < 1358507021 744294 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1358508550 993902 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24.212.152.46 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1358509579 166958 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://twitter.com/search/realtime?q=%22armstrong%22+%22the+moon%22 < 1358509596 68616 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1358510717 856601 :syncLock!~syncLock@mx1.pcsys.dk JOIN :#esoteric < 1358510727 430071 :syncLock!~syncLock@mx1.pcsys.dk PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1358510742 56117 :syncLock!~syncLock@mx1.pcsys.dk QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1358510910 451410 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1358511078 657178 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1358511437 559224 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1358511552 313950 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome synLock < 1358511556 394566 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :synLock: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1358511789 721503 :WeThePeople!~WeThePeop@unaffiliated/wethepeople JOIN :#esoteric < 1358512125 788243 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, OOTS update < 1358513639 516385 :WeThePeople!~WeThePeop@unaffiliated/wethepeople QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1358514395 228785 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1358514928 707889 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1358515724 511910 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, I am hungry. I should eat. < 1358516561 590910 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_ begins to understand the needs of his new human form < 1358516584 917297 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps he shall encounter some hilarious mixup whilst attempting to purchase food with human money < 1358516639 678435 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe he will learn of this human thing called `love' < 1358516792 720881 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152413599715277 ~ 100 likes per sec < 1358516868 572480 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they both look stupid enough that it might even be true < 1358517242 498449 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, that was amusing. Today at work https://dl.dropbox.com/u/113389132/Misc/20130118-cola1.jpg "hmm, what are those papers" https://dl.dropbox.com/u/113389132/Misc/20130118-cola2.jpg < 1358517495 425601 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!!! < 1358517505 389120 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any carbonated beverage? < 1358517544 415862 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't stop to read the paper in question, but it's probably in the Internet. < 1358517601 717858 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Drinking 2 or more colas per day was associated with increased risk of chronic kidney disease (adjusted odds ratio = 2.3; 95% confidence interval = 1.4-3.7). Results were the same for regular colas (2.1; 1.3-3.4) and artificially sweetened colas (2.1; 0.7-2.5). Noncola carbonated beverages were not associated with chronic kidney disease (0.94; 0.4-2.2)." < 1358517636 771869 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(From the "Results" section I cleverly cut away.) < 1358517664 529546 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@dsl-olubrasgw2-58c0c6-161.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1358517688 536915 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's a "cola"? < 1358517746 960692 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I'm sure they define it in the text. < 1358517861 807078 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems like it's just the word they used in the interviews the thing is based on. < 1358518005 629757 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That seems like a bad idea < 1358518127 279599 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or possibly there was an explicit list. It's slightly hard to say. < 1358518141 254509 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The interviews were done in 1982-1983.) < 1358519815 253260 :david_werecat!~david_wer@205.211.50.170 JOIN :#esoteric < 1358519851 264258 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1358519962 683859 :davidwerecat!~david_wer@205.211.50.170 JOIN :#esoteric < 1358520107 697885 :boink666!~david_wer@205.211.50.170 JOIN :#esoteric < 1358520121 6291 :david_werecat!~david_wer@205.211.50.170 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1358520296 477340 :davidwerecat!~david_wer@205.211.50.170 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1358520364 605965 :impomatic!~digital_w@211.67.125.91.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoops. I drink 2 litres of Cola a day :-( < 1358520507 887487 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :DEAD MAN WALKING < 1358520644 592656 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lots of things seem to hate kidneys < 1358520659 626698 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nurses%27_Health_Study showed a 50% increase in the most common form of kidney cancer from regularly taking nsaids < 1358520716 676038 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter PRIVMSG #esoteric :cookies mean no harm! studies be crazy! < 1358520828 301518 :impomatic!~digital_w@211.67.125.91.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :At the rate of likes, Petter Kverneng should be getting laid in approx 62 minutes! < 1358520858 511509 :sirdancealot!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1358520960 812086 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@222.122.156.78 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1358520977 717098 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@222.122.156.78 JOIN :#esoteric < 1358521135 307138 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett QUIT :*.net *.split < 1358521163 901626 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@222.122.156.78 QUIT :Client Quit < 1358521170 765188 :tswett!~tswett@23.23.86.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1358521763 611757 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I commented on a Dilbert strip < 1358521770 471489 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The comment appears not to be present < 1358521893 319594 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic, I think it got another hundred thousand between when you said that and just now < 1358521908 475062 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or when I checked after you said that and just now, to be more exact) < 1358522836 560636 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1358524422 538743 :TeruFSX2!~TeruFSX@174-20-15-143.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1358525277 434098 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: o_O < 1358525459 261365 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :jesus christ how is it this snowy in the midlans < 1358525462 898125 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*midlands < 1358526727 638535 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: do you know how often they mean by "regularly"? < 1358526795 162551 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :q < 1358526847 665782 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :1,101,114 people like this. < 1358527315 295516 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1358527541 30987 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is this a horribly unprofessional picture? < 1358527541 477548 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://m.c.lnkd.licdn.com/media/p/1/000/1ef/023/1a57a0b.jpg < 1358527627 444000 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1358527633 155212 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter PRIVMSG #esoteric :who cares ? < 1358527692 408458 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's my LinkedIn profile picture, I don't know if it's bad < 1358527766 912560 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a fine picture < 1358527773 675480 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would adjust the color levels though < 1358527783 619994 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I have a happy cookie for a pic, so it is definately "better" if the people searching judge by the profile pic or its quality < 1358527907 665426 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION doesn't really know anything about color levels < 1358527927 395954 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except I used an EXIF viewer on it to make sure my location wasn't in it, and it said something about random color levels < 1358528024 365520 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can load it in Gimp and play with the levels and curves dialogs < 1358528032 880776 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's an 'auto' button that usually does an ok job < 1358528141 618710 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the next thing I want to do is rewrite my resume in LyX < 1358528510 487635 :boink666!~david_wer@205.211.50.170 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1358528524 497748 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mine is written in LaTeX and based on http://www.mcnabbs.org/andrew/linux/latexres/ < 1358528546 17056 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mine is non-existent but it's written in @ < 1358528550 347940 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do i win < 1358528555 190117 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1358528559 25330 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1358528594 860965 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1358528675 829454 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should put that on your résumé. < 1358528855 698287 :TeruFSX2!~TeruFSX@174-20-15-143.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1358529019 668790 :TeruFSX2!~TeruFSX@174-20-15-143.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1358529096 851954 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott's resume is just the single character '@' sized to fill a sheet of A4 paper < 1358529112 94053 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahahaha < 1358529128 591100 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1358529137 90434 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :see also http://i.huffpost.com/gen/683049/thumbs/o-NIC-CAGE-JOB-APPLICATION-570.jpg?12 < 1358529310 143702 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1358529383 146753 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1358529622 26353 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know, if our current topic were an accurate representation of our community's way of working, i suspect the languages on the wiki would be quite a bit more interesting. < 1358529689 742707 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : shachaf, OOTS update <-- ooh < 1358529737 962324 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "echo shachaf oerjan" > bin/olist < 1358529741 53698 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1358529745 649402 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks! < 1358529751 181642 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run chmod a+x bin/olist < 1358529754 412303 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1358529754 592681 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist < 1358529755 605077 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf oerjan < 1358529758 545050 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1358529763 822024 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yw < 1358529909 562026 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :RSS shunning syndrome, one of the worst ailments known to webcomic fans < 1358530274 371974 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: i actually had OOTS on rss once, but something was so buggy it kept giving me old comics as new < 1358530309 965111 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :The old strips were the better ones, anyway. < 1358530322 227847 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that may be < 1358530515 442160 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, the Twitter feed I maintain bugged out like that once < 1358530534 118139 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : they both look stupid enough that it might even be true <-- name looks norwegian too < 1358530536 929252 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I was using an old service. That service stopped working, so I added one, but never removed permissions from the old one < 1358530846 611661 :FreeFull_!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1358530905 763884 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : That's my LinkedIn profile picture, I don't know if it's bad <-- now i know what you look like *MWAHAHAHA* also that picture should give you some excellent offers, provided you are looking for a career in crime < 1358530939 65374 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :try smiling next time hth < 1358531005 39672 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1358531018 100875 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it takes skill _not_ to look like a criminal in photobox pictures.) < 1358531071 605541 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :photobox? < 1358531081 650426 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hear that crime pays < 1358531124 109298 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looks like it's taken in one of those cheap airport of whereever boxes with curtains < 1358531165 333724 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION used a mirror, his phone, and an image editor with a cropping tool < 1358531224 290128 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, probably even worse. < 1358531260 47328 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i recall i once had an id photo that i was quite satisfied with. but i got it after visiting a professional photographer shop. < 1358531307 201086 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :He was wearing a caulander on his head. < 1358531335 969632 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :grraaargh < 1358531340 523163 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck S3 < 1358531342 824649 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the group) < 1358531376 6456 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's to complain about it, it's even solvable! < 1358531391 892239 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you get to S5 you can start complaining < 1358531400 951121 :FreeFull_!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover NICK :FreeFull < 1358531461 986814 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I've got a graph. I need to show it's a Cayley graph. I think it's over S_3^2 < 1358531476 751563 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1358531484 814921 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION doesn't remember cayley graphs. < 1358531548 834316 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: let G be a group and let C be a sub*set* of the group that is closed under inverse and doesn't contain the identity < 1358531592 935292 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Define X(G,C) to be the graph where V(X(G,C)) = G and where a ~ b iff ab^{-1} \in C < 1358531642 47105 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know that in this case, |G| = 36 and |C| = 15 < 1358531644 192370 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :wheee < 1358531772 473499 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i guess you don't have the colors described in the wikipedia article < 1358531857 888838 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :36 vertices and each vertex has 15 adjacent edges? < 1358531932 888278 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's going to be a messy diagram < 1358532078 10784 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: wiktionary helpfully asks "Did you mean: colander" < 1358532094 161554 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which seems to fit, i guess < 1358532217 965531 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, so I can't spell AND you don't know the joke X-D < 1358532278 800445 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yeah, we aren't working with colors < 1358532284 336981 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: so yeah, it's messy < 1358532348 509597 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :15+1 = 4*4, is it possible that it's taken by using 3 generators + the identity from each factor group? < 1358532364 925315 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and then dropping the identity of the whole) < 1358532389 990963 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :possible, but please don't help < 1358532391 998671 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just ranting < 1358532398 422144 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's noted on wp that the cayley group of a product is a product of the graphs < 1358532410 927475 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*a cayley graph < 1358532438 550854 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :WELL EXCUUUUUUSE ME < 1358532603 413633 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Princess) < 1358532811 513653 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would have added that but coppro makes a pretty shitty princess < 1358532944 207895 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :*shittty < 1358533500 22103 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1358533549 836900 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@fluttershy.pl QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net < 1358533665 976806 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@fluttershy.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1358533707 140178 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 JOIN :#esoteric < 1358533972 847788 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes, please stop helping, this is homework < 1358534116 570326 :TeruFSX2!~TeruFSX@174-20-15-143.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1358534179 833223 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i want to know the answer. please tell me. < 1358534220 436955 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I want coppro to fail his homework after cheating. please tell him. < 1358534685 912796 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i don't actually know the answer, as he hasn't provided the actual graph... < 1358534719 723895 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :technicalities. < 1358534964 277923 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we don't have A4 paper here in America < 1358534983 650755 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have something that is basically the same but slightly different for no reason < 1358534986 749544 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course < 1358535122 787219 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just tried to print a quick LibreOffice document today. It had defaulted to Letter, and then I got to fiddle with really unintuitive printer menus to tell it to go ahead and put it on A4 instead. < 1358535139 563107 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was the 2013 equivalent of PC LOAD LETTER. < 1358535148 368440 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this non sequitur friday? < 1358535159 924930 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: not yet, I have my orange shirt on. < 1358535199 792835 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume this was still in the context of the hour-and-a-half-ago comment that involved A4 paper. < 1358535204 433048 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION imagines boily highlighting on "non sequitur" < 1358535241 601108 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather imagine me actually highlighting on *non sequiturs*. < 1358535282 297354 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :because i like being imagined < 1358535310 987964 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1358535317 702095 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, your ai-complete technology is unimaginable < 1358535324 147977 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :trust me trust me trust me yeah! < 1358535343 107923 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :O ... KAY < 1358535370 503040 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdvWBgyfKLg < 1358535381 974195 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has that song in his head < 1358535487 822009 :Snowyowl!~fake@90-65.107-92.cust.bluewin.ch JOIN :#esoteric < 1358535839 579409 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1358536346 835458 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy hi monqy < 1358536352 364081 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi monqy hi < 1358536388 1634 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :#esoteric is like 50% hi monqy, 50% homestuck updates < 1358536388 226744 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@dsl-olubrasgw2-58c0c6-161.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing here < 1358536410 654639 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi sgeo < 1358536423 418708 :Snowyowl!~fake@90-65.107-92.cust.bluewin.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, is there a homestuck update? < 1358536495 48247 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :+1 < 1358536584 143427 :Snowyowl!~fake@90-65.107-92.cust.bluewin.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :last night someone asked me whether the Cartesian product ordinals*ordinals was a thing < 1358536595 356768 :Snowyowl!~fake@90-65.107-92.cust.bluewin.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's a collection < 1358536597 673290 :Snowyowl!~fake@90-65.107-92.cust.bluewin.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :just fyi < 1358536615 530342 :TeruFSX2!~TeruFSX@174-20-15-143.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1358536647 2506 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a collection of what < 1358536682 223445 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: good question < 1358536694 220365 :Snowyowl!~fake@90-65.107-92.cust.bluewin.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :a collection of ordered pairs of ordinals < 1358536706 43490 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the ordinals are a class in the NGB sense, then so is their cartesian product. < 1358536713 460606 :Snowyowl!~fake@90-65.107-92.cust.bluewin.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but good question, that's how you maths < 1358536733 986363 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*NBG < 1358536747 958263 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so do ordinals form a class? or just a "collection", whatever that is < 1358536756 197149 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and by if, i mean they do) < 1358536765 203405 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well then. < 1358536768 473620 :Snowyowl!~fake@90-65.107-92.cust.bluewin.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :... uh, s/collection/class < 1358536778 521613 :Snowyowl!~fake@90-65.107-92.cust.bluewin.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll just go hide in a corner now < 1358536834 599017 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically since the pair of two ordinals is a set, you can make the class of all of them < 1358536852 828886 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1358537222 984318 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.175 JOIN :#esoteric < 1358537398 107419 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do code browsers work in prototype-based OO environments? < 1358537496 557902 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Self worlds can be built from scratch from the sources - see below for download instructions. " < 1358537497 703468 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.O < 1358537623 352690 :FreeFull_!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1358537806 425517 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1358537964 82445 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Good night < 1358538175 223283 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders if web browsers count as browsers in the Smalltalk sense at all < 1358538223 875491 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe if HTTP had more messages than GET and PUT < 1358538236 385732 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :did smalltalk and the web ever exist at the same time? < 1358538237 533680 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's POST PATCH and DELETE too. < 1358538247 93035 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er, POST HEAD and DELETE < 1358538251 613468 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think PATCH is nonstandard maybe < 1358538265 353159 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, Smalltalk didn't exist. There wasn't an EMP that wiped all Smalltalk images and now Smalltalk is dead forever, or anything < 1358538274 104967 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :....*Smalltalk didn't stop existing < 1358538279 816933 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes there was < 1358538291 754412 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's OPTIONS and CONNECT, too. < 1358538327 745768 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And I suppose POST is in fact more common than PUT.) < 1358538360 843063 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think get, head and post are the only ones used in practice < 1358538383 216372 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :CONNECT is used when you want to use a proxy for HTTPS stuff. < 1358538394 367360 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The sort of proxy that doesn't man-in-the-middle you, anyway. < 1358538427 436539 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The PATCH method -- RFC5789 -- seems to be at PROPOSED STANDARD status at the moment.) < 1358538475 619096 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :WebDAV adds quite a few methods too, but maybe that doesn't quite count as HTTP any more. < 1358538497 492032 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though the official name *is* "HTTP Extensions for Web Distributed Authoring and Versioning (WebDAV)". < 1358538533 739394 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :does http allow arbitrary methods? or do you make an extended http when you make up a method? < 1358538549 85333 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :GET, POST and HEAD are the only pre-1.1 ones, so it sort of makes sense they're also the only ones that get used. < 1358538552 367182 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope, the standard doesn't allow extra methods. < 1358538570 898883 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah and apparently some browsers (or perhaps mostly proxies) have trouble understanding anything besides HEAD/GET/POST < 1358538587 663895 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The set of common methods for HTTP/1.1 is defined below. Although this set can be expanded, additional methods cannot be assumed to share the same semantics for separately extended clients and servers." < 1358538590 279338 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :So pretty much every "hey we're RESTful yo" kinda thing actually uses POST for everything and a field to specify the "actual" method. < 1358539412 342155 :FreeFull_!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1358539516 519825 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1358539722 198544 :TodPunk!~Tod@166-70-93-209.ip.xmission.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1358539820 175464 :FreeFull_!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1358539933 551172 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1358539936 875287 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-09-12/commonly-used-pain-pills-increase-kidney-cancer-risk-in-study.html < 1358539974 827680 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bleh, it doen't have a link to the study :< < 1358539989 685881 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION keeps using ibuprofen anywas >.>; < 1358540020 397178 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everything that "increases cancer risk" ends up in the news < 1358540034 139305 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even if it's only when you get 50kg of it every day or it only increases it by 0.00000002% or whatever < 1358540049 652094 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was from the Nurse's Study though, which is rather a big deal < 1358540055 329327 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1358540062 775248 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(51% increase in risk, N=125000 over 20 years) < 1358540065 15491 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's too bad < 1358540079 67672 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i take ibuprofen when I have a headache which is... not that often? < 1358540084 268629 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but maybe i should try harder not to < 1358540085 664928 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, basically the same here < 1358540087 22567 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought it was super safe :( < 1358540108 869386 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tylenol always worries me though because of its liver toxicity < 1358540112 765237 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1358540119 845265 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if they found any link there, or if it's only if you take too much < 1358540141 798793 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does that compound with alcohol i wonder < 1358540201 400756 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikipedia says chronic alcohol abuse increases the risk of tylenol (probably since it means less liver cells so easier to reach a toxic dose?) < 1358540279 210475 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really wish wikipedia had the p-values for some of the results from that study though < 1358540283 78044 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1358540337 6567 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't trust p-values < 1358540351 628005 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :20 people do a study, 19 people get no result and don't publish, one person gets an awesome significant p=0.05 result!! < 1358540392 973719 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this a sarcastic xkcd joke, i'm confused < 1358540410 72975 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it's just a thing that happens < 1358540442 167149 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess once xkcd makes a strip about any existing phenomenon or item of culture it becomes forever 'an xkcd reference' < 1358540465 274732 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm just trying to correlate the possibly sarcastic multiple exclamation marks with your use of goatkcd < 1358540465 765910 :Snowyowl!~fake@90-65.107-92.cust.bluewin.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :people are trying to convince scientists to publish negative results. < 1358540472 584769 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1358540482 33794 :Snowyowl!~fake@90-65.107-92.cust.bluewin.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds boring to read though < 1358540488 691173 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :some of the negative results journals are interesting reading actually < 1358540494 129764 :Snowyowl!~fake@90-65.107-92.cust.bluewin.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :rly? < 1358540496 258250 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like you meant "haha, people who say they don't trust p-values don't know anything about stats and are just parroting xkcd" < 1358540506 651340 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a lot of them are like "this seemed promising but we ran out of funding before we could finish" < 1358540516 787244 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: sorry 4 the confusn < 1358540522 566266 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.plosmedicine.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pmed.0020124 also < 1358540528 77193 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it's just fun to see what people think of trying < 1358540540 274472 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I meant more that, it's such a huge study that it'd be cool to know which conclusions are reliable < 1358540549 325974 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, I could totally believe them finding conclusions with p=0.001 < 1358540556 750903 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.jnrbm.com/ < 1358540557 195430 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :since most studies have 100 times lower < 1358540559 722509 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*lower N < 1358540561 675702 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1358540567 807985 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1358540569 819048 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's kind of artifical though < 1358540588 841988 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you pick any two things in the world, there is probably *some* correlation and if you pump the sample size high enough, you can get any p value you want < 1358540596 243263 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just don't take painkillers < 1358540597 923543 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that "most published research findings are false" is awesome though < 1358540611 505478 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems to work out okay because I can never tell if they are working or not anyway < 1358540622 69007 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Could titanium oxide coating from a sol--gel process make stone baskets more resistant to laser radiation at 2.1 mum?" < 1358540623 779840 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1358540625 103340 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"no" < 1358540663 986895 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ibuprofen is like, the only NSAID that works well for me >_< < 1358540681 594564 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: correlation between bathtub manufacturing and dying in space < 1358540694 798724 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wonder if i should look up studies on the effectiveness of the antidepressants i'm on < 1358540697 19527 :Snowyowl!~fake@90-65.107-92.cust.bluewin.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're right. The actual result probably won't affect my life too much, but it's interesting to see what they did, how they did it, and why they got the results they did. < 1358540698 869625 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably would not cheer me < 1358540712 45897 :Snowyowl!~fake@90-65.107-92.cust.bluewin.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: torture the data and it will admit to anything < 1358540740 699110 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :just use a log log plot < 1358540764 275120 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :why torture the data? just torture the subjects and they'll give you any data you want < 1358540768 60230 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the side-effects of SSRIs don't seem so bad at least < 1358540785 847659 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're really bad for some people < 1358540794 314620 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean besides the increase in suicidal ideation or < 1358540801 686892 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also once you're on them it's hell to get off < 1358540820 390776 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fucking three pages of warnings about how i'm going to die, man. < 1358540823 812647 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought the increase in suicidal ideation was immediate after starting them, because it gave people more motivation? XD < 1358540831 93564 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*immediately < 1358540836 176004 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that's what i've heard too < 1358540838 702421 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :motivation isn't ideation, but there's that too yes < 1358540863 905341 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like, it increases motivation before it starts treating depression? < 1358540867 895049 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno, I ran out of mine a while ago and really didn't feel like going to ask for more < 1358540885 906546 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you have awful withdrawal symptoms? < 1358540887 240971 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: in part. < 1358540902 834206 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I followed the same regime as for starting (cut dose in half, then to zero after a week) < 1358540907 462474 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1358540907 685592 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't notice anything < 1358540942 819332 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was kind of frustrated that they conflicted with tryptans < 1358540955 30490 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"tryptans are totally safe! except if you're taking SSRIs. then they'll kill you." < 1358540971 628911 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Tylenol always worries me though because of its liver toxicity < 1358541002 550721 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1358541013 899895 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, according to wikipedia, tryptan is an essential amino acid? < 1358541014 80283 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm. triptan. < 1358541015 465818 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure it's safe in reasonable doses? < 1358541017 743310 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not tryptan. they are not the same thing. < 1358541019 722190 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :damnit biology < 1358541049 797618 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: yeah, it's just like, it has a relatively low gap between toxic and effectivenes.s I forgot what the word was for (toxic dose) / (effective dose) < 1358541062 484295 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the max dose per day is around ~4g, the toxic dose is around... 10g < 1358541071 687659 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1358541096 870185 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, you need to be very aware of how much you've taken. < 1358541112 998384 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are a lot of physicians who think tylenol should not be available over the counter < 1358541118 966789 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh. interesting < 1358541149 288630 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they feel it's that dangerous relative to the others? < 1358541164 827377 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :paracetamol (AMERICAN TRANSLATION: TYLENOL) scares me < 1358541165 271926 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah for this reason < 1358541177 787472 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the toxic dose is not much higher than the effective dose < 1358541179 288954 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably the incredibly wide use is a factor < 1358541184 769166 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's easy to kill yourself accidentally or deliberately < 1358541205 949917 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember reading that it's really dangerous suicide-wise because it's easy to take a whole bunch and not die immediately, and feel fine < 1358541209 212434 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but 3 days later your liver fails < 1358541211 164082 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :having used as the default pain killer forever, I am not the least scared of paracetamol < 1358541223 866907 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, accidentally a paracetamol there < 1358541225 84669 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, is paracetamol the same thing as tylenol? I had no idea. < 1358541227 421320 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: iirc by the time you feel anything it is already too late and you are going to die no matter what, or something < 1358541231 391094 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not scared of it probably because my parents have been giving it to me since forever and they're doctors? < 1358541233 21341 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a close friend of mine actually tried to kill herself with tylenol a few years ago < 1358541241 793414 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :she probably survived because she managed to puke it all up < 1358541244 78791 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: "acetaminophen" < 1358541244 302284 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tylenol scares me, but Aspirin is probably more dangerous for me since I'd need to force myself to eat < 1358541249 128880 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1358541257 22169 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1358541267 676201 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As far as I know my liver is in good working order, and I am careful with how much Tylenol I take < 1358541276 809498 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yeah, it's also called APAP < 1358541279 738128 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(My mother was actually in a transplant ward with a woman who lost her leg and liver from an accidental overdose.) < 1358541310 568601 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember also that like surgeons tell people to take tylenol instead of NSAIDs during recovery I think, because it isn't a blood thinner < 1358541313 610959 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :while aspirin/ibuprofen are < 1358541319 872714 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a brand in Finland too, but it's also known as paracetamol. I keep forgetting it. < 1358541323 219418 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Panadol, right. < 1358541357 391322 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sure has a long list of countries in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_paracetamol_brand_names next to it. < 1358541363 279773 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm told that paracetamol is also more effective against headaches whilst ibuprofen is better for muscle pain. < 1358541402 739071 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, "Neo-Kiddielets" < 1358541421 740863 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And "Biogesic-Kiddielets" < 1358541460 950446 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ireland has a lot of brands for paracetamol < 1358541486 581492 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love eating biogesic kiddielets to make me feel better. < 1358541490 844258 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Biogesic adults just aren't as tasty :( < 1358541506 327061 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Calpol! I remember Calpol! < 1358541511 9246 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It tasted dangerously nice. < 1358541512 29013 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«Paracetamol hepatotoxicity is, by far, the most common cause of acute liver failure in both the United States and the United Kingdom» huh < 1358541521 617059 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, note the 'acute'. < 1358541532 335551 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: dude... < 1358541533 950681 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alchohol-induced liver failure doesn't count. < 1358541535 64058 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Calpol tastes disgusting. < 1358541539 239571 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, ... < 1358541540 887343 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gonna be honest, I don't know what "acute" means in this context. < 1358541550 191713 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: well ugly liver failure is far worse < 1358541551 603688 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, acute is basically "bam your liver's dead" < 1358541565 604958 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh good < 1358541569 469270 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: Look OK the only decent-tasting paracetamol is that banana-flavoured stuff I had when I was a kid. < 1358541571 524122 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, it's like "not chronic damage" < 1358541584 67019 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :since alcohol is probably not going to destroy your liver in one go < 1358541589 305040 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(let me tell you about how I can't swallow pills and therefore have to deal with the fact that all liquid medicine is the worst thing :( ) < 1358541602 111434 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't swallow pills? < 1358541604 169653 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can you be unable to swallow pills? < 1358541613 28786 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea, I just literally can't < 1358541616 459089 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do they get stuck in your throat or something < 1358541619 231370 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the worst < 1358541619 412048 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sucks < 1358541619 936269 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might well be psychological < 1358541637 611394 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :just stick the pills in food and chug it down? < 1358541639 488241 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like I can have the pill in my mouth and everything but I just cannot make the actual movements required to get it down < 1358541644 908806 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ibuprofen is our to-go pain medicine, by the way, just to add one more point of data. (But I know of people who go with paracetamol.) < 1358541660 575701 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i keep dry swallowing my pills even though i suspect that exacerbates one of the side effects < 1358541664 197681 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've found that drinking milk instead of water works relaly well < 1358541669 448683 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: doesn't work (which points to it being psychological I guess) < 1358541669 669879 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in that I often can't even tell the pill is there < 1358541677 687632 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: That's because your mouth-eye then can't see it. < 1358541681 672232 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1358541687 250901 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I may have not studied much of biology.) < 1358541689 951376 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you can swollow food then? < 1358541692 798957 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so THAT'S what the dangly thing is < 1358541694 673169 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: yes... < 1358541706 224174 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"no, i can't swallow food" < 1358541709 161657 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that what you expected < 1358541714 67963 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yes < 1358541722 814451 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well gregor can't smell < 1358541723 531158 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: What about stones? (Isn't that how digestion works? As mentioned, still pretty hazy on this...) < 1358541724 20626 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :same thing right < 1358541727 286626 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, what if it was some sort of schroedinger's pill arrangement < 1358541728 313449 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :#esoteric: full a weirdos < 1358541737 776036 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my mouth is actually sewn shut, i have to get all my nutrition through IV tubing < 1358541748 40840 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the worst thing are those pills that don't have a proper casing and just tasty super nasty < 1358541748 876862 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you should team up! you smell the food and then gregor can eat it < 1358541749 57825 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm a hoover :( < 1358541753 993973 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't have a mouth < 1358541759 689368 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: welcome to my world < 1358541761 102590 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :IV food tubes are... sure something < 1358541771 179950 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :one pill makes you larger, and one pill makes you small < 1358541798 903676 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is portable IV food tube stuff and it is the most cumbersome looking thing in the universe < 1358541808 62466 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The diameter of a feeding tube is measured in French units (each French unit equals 0.33 millimeters)" what on earth < 1358541809 648473 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the ones that mother gives you, they do nothing at all. < 1358541818 381116 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, sounds like Sgeo_'s kind of thing < 1358541821 205922 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or is that "don't do"? < 1358541823 475174 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but guys the worst thing about pills < 1358541824 572553 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's something like that. < 1358541825 824588 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"A catheter of 1 French has a diameter of ⅓ mm" I... but... < 1358541826 83675 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that you take one < 1358541829 527854 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and suddenly you escape the matrix < 1358541832 197964 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :"don't do anything at all" iirc < 1358541832 870356 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you're plugged into this fucking thing < 1358541842 746244 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric : elliott: you should team up! you smell the food and then gregor can eat it // worst superhero duo ever < 1358541843 229206 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: That sounds more correct, yes. < 1358541846 630358 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then you have to go fight a bunch of dudes to save the world < 1358541862 662101 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and your life gets turned into a 1999 scifi film < 1358541864 958784 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the fuck is the point of this! < 1358541866 534234 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :never again < 1358541866 793184 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you get to shoot elrond and stark too < 1358541890 270201 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: do you hoover up food < 1358541896 551122 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eew no < 1358541928 853132 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i think it's "don't do anything at all" < 1358541930 15534 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :just remember that elrond is not priscilla, because priscilla is (iirc) the bus < 1358541950 914199 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: olsner just SCOOPED you few lines up, but yes. < 1358541954 457308 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1358541957 658081 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've been scooped < 1358541962 552181 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :scooped like poop < 1358541977 286656 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is getting scooped up better than getting hoovered? < 1358541981 365257 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :In general, I mean. < 1358541993 918120 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think so, yes < 1358542016 722410 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :depending somewhat on the carefulness of the scooping < 1358542482 289178 :FreeFull_!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :What would a language that would be higher-level than, say, haskell, look like? < 1358542514 833079 :Snowyowl!~fake@90-65.107-92.cust.bluewin.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :you write English sentences and it executes them < 1358542544 923886 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull_: ask kmc < 1358542568 977181 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"higher-level" meaning what < 1358542569 492011 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ada. < 1358542582 96043 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's used by the US air force -- you can't get higher-level than that, right? < 1358542594 608311 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nasa! < 1358542609 791441 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that's true. < 1358542611 702490 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nasa uses java. what now < 1358542622 474328 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well then. < 1358542627 776679 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it's Java. < 1358542633 321223 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the software on voyager < 1358542637 78691 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that should be the highest right? < 1358542640 642923 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION installed GNAT yesterday for some reason. < 1358542643 610459 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :technically < 1358542657 940363 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does "high" mean "far from the earth"? < 1358542664 295043 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the software on voyager is some godforsaken nightmare assembly, from what i remember of the apollo computers < 1358542665 23835 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :programming in English would be terrible, have you tried giving precise instructions to a *person* in English? < 1358542667 582496 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lesson learned: shit sucks < 1358542692 565454 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :domains that need precision (like law) develop their own unusual dialects of English that resemble programming languages a lot more < 1358542694 244693 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ada is a weird language. < 1358542695 341321 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the other meaning of "high", I guess English could actually work < 1358542708 489607 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: You should make Ada the new Clojure. < 1358542718 870548 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^^^^ this < 1358542735 431238 :FreeFull_!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskell on a shelf < 1358542737 831700 :FreeFull_!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskell with weed < 1358542744 141012 :FreeFull_!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskell in a rocket < 1358542756 381943 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :haskell in hats < 1358542756 562374 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ada's typing is actually kinda neat < 1358542766 352801 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the thing that was apparently debugged and fixed on a REPL while in space? < 1358542790 332794 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: cobol was the new clojure for a while < 1358542792 524817 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was an interesting time < 1358542794 99010 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :deep space explorer or something, and that's not really an accurate story, they used a sim < 1358542805 561167 :FreeFull_!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looking at Ada right now < 1358542815 787641 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hope you realise fizzie was joking < 1358542820 51670 :FreeFull_!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :And looks good, other than looking a bit imperative < 1358542830 788286 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha < 1358542851 655979 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: yeah, you're thinking of DS1's Remote Agent. < 1358542924 603641 :FreeFull_!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot doesn't have System.Cmd imported, does it < 1358542952 850006 :FreeFull_!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> system "echo test" < 1358542954 243650 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `system' < 1358542970 464049 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: one of the Mars rovers froze up due to a basic priority inversion deadlock and they had to fix it via the VxWorks serial console, with mars lag < 1358542984 505699 :FreeFull_!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: ouch < 1358542994 291381 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kind of crazy to think they, like, use vxworks < 1358542994 471272 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in space < 1358542997 780274 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1358543001 136666 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"not as crazy as using linux" < 1358543003 558718 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's also Linux in space. < 1358543007 327898 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's, like, a human OS < 1358543025 552816 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i admit i would not trust linux in space < 1358543028 496650 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no way < 1358543032 492099 :FreeFull_!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :For anything that has that amount of lag, you want to be able to do whatever you want locally first to see if it works < 1358543036 308269 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :human OS as in "just as unreliable as humans"? < 1358543038 357768 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially not if humans are involved < 1358543041 951689 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that there ever are these days < 1358543048 167910 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: no as in humans wrote it :P < 1358543058 893634 :FreeFull_!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: What OS would you put in space? < 1358543061 933616 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the ISS they use lenovo thinkpads < 1358543065 427067 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's really quite silly and pointless to put humans in space < 1358543071 356299 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably with windows? < 1358543074 550969 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: mars rover 0wned due to accidentally included driver for printer from 1983 < 1358543079 499919 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1358543085 386613 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be pretty sweet < 1358543095 646802 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mars rover 0wned through video4linux1 firmware 32-bit compatibility layer < 1358543098 811029 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :4chan hacks mars rover, it starts printing out obscenities through its printer < 1358543101 115285 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :while moving < 1358543109 515509 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mars rover draws giant goatse on surface of mars < 1358543111 943092 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"shit why did we even put CUPS on this thing?" < 1358543112 123069 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :trail of paper dicks spread throughout mars < 1358543125 840102 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"i dunno, fedora is hard okay" < 1358543129 648691 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :aliens arrive believing it to be a mating display < 1358543131 795771 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You reminded me of a thing. < 1358543137 12471 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like the idea of the mars rover having a printer sort of by accident < 1358543137 902495 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: imo so easy < 1358543146 269315 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"well the computer came with it when we bought it from Gateway" < 1358543146 881725 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :aliens mating with 4chan? awesome < 1358543153 511991 :Snowyowl!~fake@90-65.107-92.cust.bluewin.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :4chan makes first contact < 1358543160 835409 :Snowyowl!~fake@90-65.107-92.cust.bluewin.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :we come in peace tits or gtfo < 1358543178 338311 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: end result: nasa ends up having a distribution choice flamewar with Beaky < 1358543192 540369 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh does beaky have opinions about linux distros?!?!? < 1358543193 866914 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :tell me more < 1358543199 570656 :FreeFull_!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nasa puts Arch on the mars rover. The system then proceeds to break after an update and never work again < 1358543218 738099 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :see just like that. i am the linux whisperer. < 1358543222 629819 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nasa puts Gentoo on mars rover, batteries run down while recompiling openoffice < 1358543249 301562 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://isometric.sixsided.org/strips/the_future_of_advertising/ this is what you went and reminded me of. < 1358543255 360814 :FreeFull_!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :NASA puts its own linux distro on the rover. Stallman demands source code. < 1358543282 520547 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i like how the images inexplicably don't show < 1358543294 321005 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :mars missions are perfect for source-based distros though, gives you plenty of time to compile the base system before you get there < 1358543296 933315 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy shit talking cubes < 1358543300 732900 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It worked for me. But the site is the mess. < 1358543310 379907 :FreeFull_!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :funny how the gnu ada compiler is called gnat < 1358543320 382642 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: haha < 1358543322 806517 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you using "chromium" < 1358543326 52518 :FreeFull_!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: You could cross-compile < 1358543329 804382 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I am using that. < 1358543331 261497 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i will send http://isometric.sixsided.org/data/strips/the_future_of_advertising/7.gif to a friend with no context < 1358543332 846510 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm using "chromium" and it worked < 1358543341 47823 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just white for me < 1358543341 266558 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1358543344 741366 :FreeFull_!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even sending the binaries over would take a lot of time though < 1358543350 901653 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull_: it's also written in ada and requires gnat to build, iirc < 1358543358 221925 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sav eme!!!! < 1358543366 542074 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1358543370 629985 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :looking at the DOM in the html inspector < 1358543375 281841 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it thinks it's just composed of
s in divs < 1358543377 148845 :FreeFull_!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: All languages should be written in C < 1358543377 599250 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :with no image tags < 1358543384 874638 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe they have CSS background images < 1358543388 426625 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the UP < 1358543391 37535 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :

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< 1358543411 80294 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chromium 24.0.1312.52 < 1358543412 570951 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you two? < 1358543413 603058 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull_: the delivery system would string along a PC to cross-compile the OS for the rover on the way over? < 1358543422 427767 :FreeFull_!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :That future of advertising page appears completely blank to me with firefox 18 < 1358543424 590533 :FreeFull_!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just a scrollbar < 1358543439 894666 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull_: Is there a "More" at the bottom < 1358543440 135319 :Snowyowl!~fake@90-65.107-92.cust.bluewin.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm seeing the word "more" at the bottom but that's it < 1358543440 354112 :FreeFull_!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: That sounds expensive < 1358543444 220664 :FreeFull_!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: no < 1358543445 32051 :Snowyowl!~fake@90-65.107-92.cust.bluewin.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :also firefox < 1358543446 110926 :FreeFull_!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1358543447 341453 :FreeFull_!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1358543450 555883 :TeruFSX2!~TeruFSX@174-20-15-143.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1358543451 500750 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1358543454 124187 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe the jquery is fucking it up < 1358543459 890516 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: fizzie: do you two have js disabled < 1358543461 265686 :FreeFull_!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clicking it takes me to another page that is all black < 1358543462 710178 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I had http://isometric.sixsided.org/data/strips/only_when_youre_ready/21.gif printed with a dot matrix printer on tractor feed paper as a wall decoration back when. < 1358543468 814197 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I do not have js disabled. < 1358543470 69170 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: no < 1358543479 525372 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :heeeelp < 1358543484 290163 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have jesus disabled < 1358543488 509262 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1358543491 399358 :FreeFull_!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Yes < 1358543492 606371 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :disabling js now shows images < 1358543495 292747 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they're all a "broken image" icon < 1358543497 263466 :FreeFull_!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't know that could cause issues < 1358543500 201927 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The site: it's a mess. < 1358543522 323886 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It used to have some sort of malware javascript infestation at some point too. ("You're welcome" if it still has one on some pages.) < 1358543538 564822 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont understand < 1358543541 502241 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can such simple html be fucked up < 1358543566 19154 :Snowyowl!~fake@90-65.107-92.cust.bluewin.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :why doesn't disabling javascript help? < 1358543587 423038 :FreeFull_!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Screwed up css and javascript? < 1358543597 900870 :FreeFull_!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Disabling javascript didn't fix anything for me, although it should have < 1358543620 498917 :Snowyowl!~fake@90-65.107-92.cust.bluewin.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems like it should be screwed up css, but I can't find anything in there either < 1358543626 864342 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay this comic is like seven jpegs in sequence, how can it not be rendering, what the heck < 1358543628 276936 :FreeFull_!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll try with midori < 1358543649 279741 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Time to watch some DS9 < 1358543655 290221 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: It looked like https://dl.dropbox.com/u/113389132/Misc/20130118-juliste1.jpg this. < 1358543668 976089 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you read "The Man Who Sold the Moon" < 1358543675 8662 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1358543679 872126 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then I need to force myself to work on resume < 1358543733 129437 :FreeFull_!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :The website works in midori < 1358543738 356714 :FreeFull_!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still don't see how it doesn't in firefox < 1358543745 377164 :FreeFull_!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :The firefox web console doesn't give any errors < 1358543747 622636 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull_: It's: a mess. < 1358543752 363024 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i hav eno idea < 1358543758 737989 :Snowyowl!~fake@90-65.107-92.cust.bluewin.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :it works in chrome < 1358543762 769279 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it makes N O S E N S E < 1358543769 532232 :Snowyowl!~fake@90-65.107-92.cust.bluewin.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait now it doesn't < 1358543777 30697 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Snowyowl: It's some kind of a heisensite. < 1358543777 261883 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what have i unleashed < 1358543782 236085 :Snowyowl!~fake@90-65.107-92.cust.bluewin.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :... it vanished while I was tabbed out < 1358543855 230984 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://isometric.sixsided.org/data/strips/the_future_of_advertising/16.gif k < 1358543918 99494 :FreeFull_!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :It works in links2 < 1358544315 975925 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is Self dead? < 1358544364 675632 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: Just use Ada. < 1358544369 973475 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: Poulet! < 1358544397 368186 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :we used to have our introduction to imperative programming in ada < 1358544566 94917 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Instead of resumeing I am watching videos of Brogue < 1358544588 420759 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No I'm not < 1358544590 943511 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm bored. < 1358544616 563437 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :here, read: http://www.history.ac.uk/reviews/review/903 < 1358545026 106084 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Thanks. I am not trying to be an asshole, but the way I see it is if a company doesn't bother responding to me when it is a private matter, they don't deserve the opportunity to try and respond to me because it became a public matter." < 1358545029 928428 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :--a reddit comment < 1358545050 873359 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1358545137 575562 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I started learning about how OCB works internally! < 1358545160 735025 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are a few thing that look strange to me < 1358545165 686282 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i only know enough crypto to be dangerous < 1358545167 739853 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are probably fine < 1358545175 635479 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are the things? < 1358545195 870205 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OCB? < 1358545202 960830 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a block cipher mode, ocb < 1358545204 464393 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1358545207 668323 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.cs.ucdavis.edu/~rogaway/ocb/ocb-faq.htm < 1358545239 509542 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: well for example, the integrity tag is computed (essentially) by simply xoring all the plaintext blocks and then encrypting that < 1358545255 941995 :FreeFull_!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover NICK :FreeFull < 1358545271 611983 :Snowyowl!~fake@90-65.107-92.cust.bluewin.ch QUIT :Quit: Snowyowl < 1358545315 779080 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: That does sound rather weird < 1358545319 377546 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So if you add an all-zero block you get the same tag? < 1358545342 265110 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, because the number of blocks will change < 1358545363 464473 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but what if you transpose two blocks? < 1358545367 10643 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, if you swap two blocks you get the same tag? < 1358545369 226219 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1358545385 773579 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know, i should try it < 1358545522 762871 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if you swap two blocks in the ciphertext, the tag will be wrong because the two plaintexts will come out completely wrong < 1358545551 920119 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure. < 1358545581 20945 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and an attacker can't use this to discover if one message is a transposition of another < 1358545585 425138 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the nonce will be different < 1358545607 82513 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :still vaguely sketchy < 1358545624 90109 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oops, I completely forgot about http://crypto.stanford.edu/RealWorldCrypto/program.php :-( < 1358545640 621075 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently it was last week. < 1358545746 789943 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think at the time I heard about it I thought I wouldn't be in CA that week. < 1358545895 185344 :jdiez!~42@178-33-162-138.kimsufi.com PART :#esoteric < 1358546307 61629 :derkus!~derk@c-174-60-176-249.hsd1.pa.comcast.net NICK :dessos < 1358546320 200059 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently shitake mushroom mycelium can be encouraged to fruit by beating the crap out of it with sticks < 1358546330 112461 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this was discovered when some monk got pissed off that his mushrooms weren't growing < 1358546427 219669 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought monks were meant to be serene and at one with the universe < 1358546446 277226 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and priests are supposed to be celibate < 1358546529 269549 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1358546669 480303 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1358546686 260708 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1358546686 440889 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Client Quit < 1358547100 290046 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1358547172 738052 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1358547269 931601 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1358547443 588040 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65-183-140-119-dhcp.burlingtontelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1358547545 948321 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.O DCSS keeps advancing < 1358547548 453729 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's now 0.11 < 1358547850 387610 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes sgeo < 1358547853 125367 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :software gets released < 1358547894 869269 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless it's NetHack past 3.4.3 < 1358547978 835158 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1358547996 247682 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I have a binding in ghci, how do I get rid of it? < 1358548025 20078 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I accidentally declared overlapping instances and had to restart ghci to get rid of them < 1358548144 834043 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's it. Fuck Kopete. < 1358548157 687206 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: try #haskell < 1358548177 981067 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I then read that :r will get rid of all bindings (which wouldn't have been useful) < 1358548181 97775 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok < 1358549032 639854 :WeThePeople!~WeThePeop@unaffiliated/wethepeople JOIN :#esoteric < 1358549061 348448 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-94.elisa.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1358549070 245752 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1358549087 68506 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`list < 1358549088 298766 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: /hackenv/bin/list: Permission denied \ /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: /hackenv/bin/list: cannot execute: Permission denied < 1358549100 625137 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run chmod a+x bin/list < 1358549103 980560 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1358549105 314599 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`list < 1358549106 207346 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :/hackenv/bin/list: line 1: Taneb: command not found < 1358549114 684396 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo bin/list < 1358549116 101445 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/list < 1358549122 823478 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/list < 1358549124 154241 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo alot shachaf < 1358549131 963817 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1358549173 430903 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so just put in "echo" < 1358549275 588503 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something to do with sed? < 1358549319 973499 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i s/Taneb/echo Taneb/ bin/list < 1358549321 170497 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: -e expression #1, char 12: unterminated `s' command < 1358549323 63560 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :#!/bin/cat < 1358549326 179216 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i s/Taneb/echo/ Taneb/ bin/list < 1358549329 447646 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: can't read Taneb/: No such file or directory < 1358549337 568323 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_ why am i on the regular list < 1358549340 236906 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: haha, does that actually work? < 1358549340 466807 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i "s/Taneb/echo/ Taneb/" bin/list < 1358549341 836901 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: -e expression #1, char 15: unknown option to `s' < 1358549346 220926 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, I haveno idea < 1358549349 818297 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :take me off!! < 1358549357 826827 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Take off yourself < 1358549362 907031 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i s/shachaf// bin/list < 1358549366 26375 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1358549368 507127 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thike < 1358549377 779842 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i "s/Taneb/echo Taneb/" bin/list < 1358549378 957339 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1358549384 64934 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: sure, easiest language to write a quine in < 1358549384 285795 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/list < 1358549385 481369 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo alot < 1358549394 561676 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: cool beans < 1358549398 689690 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is Taneb not on there < 1358549423 379235 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what we need is irc-based vi. < 1358549431 28941 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkdir quines < 1358549431 835307 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried to /nick echo but echo is online < 1358549432 80910 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1358549444 98853 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoever echo is, e's on the list < 1358549453 541733 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run touch quines/ruby < 1358549456 899889 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1358549459 699576 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run touch quines/python quines/perl < 1358549459 879318 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :editors like ed made more sense when I realized they were originally used off-line < 1358549463 98360 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1358549469 101399 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :off-line? < 1358549469 662988 :WeThePeople!~WeThePeop@unaffiliated/wethepeople QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1358549470 127292 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run touch quines/cat < 1358549472 356544 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :"a square is a quadrilateral in the category of rectangles" < 1358549473 22246 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1358549487 259036 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: imagine using it over irc < 1358549502 51295 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION doesn't really know what ed was like < 1358549508 202623 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run chmod +x quines/cat < 1358549510 627344 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1358549521 186079 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"was", he says < 1358549534 151642 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, don't +x < 1358549540 48876 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ruby quines/ruby < 1358549541 211781 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: ruby: not found < 1358549546 102049 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pft. < 1358549548 821574 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"When first invoked, ed is in command mode. In this mode commands are read from the standard input and executed to manipulate the contents of the editor buffer." < 1358549549 484904 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like you would get a printout of compiler errors and prepare by hand an editor script to fix them < 1358549551 52294 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think hussie is going to have it a running gag that fefeta never talks on-screen < 1358549560 302845 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i "s/echo/echo\ Taneb/" bin/list < 1358549560 525571 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1358549563 329682 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1358549567 772982 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/list < 1358549568 767163 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo alot < 1358549569 212855 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that way you aren't using insanely expensive computer time to fix your dumb mistakes < 1358549580 154533 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1358549585 456670 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank god we have Eclipse now < 1358549655 90435 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Java is the replacement for COBOL < 1358549670 371404 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :¬_¬ < 1358549672 94475 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Java is a COBOL in the category of FreeFull < 1358549692 396969 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can never decide what's more annoying, people hating on Java for bad reasons, or ava. < 1358549695 442260 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Java < 1358549711 258852 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Java is insanely better than COBOL < 1358549728 7524 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you ever used COBOL? < 1358549743 177349 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, only saw some < 1358549754 142978 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would you say Java is worse than COBOL then? < 1358549768 629139 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1358549776 861451 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, just that putting things on a scalar scale of "good", and judging things based on hearsay, is kinda silly. < 1358549813 367404 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Tell me what the main application of COBOL was, and then what the main application of Java is < 1358549871 525922 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Programs for large businesses? < 1358549878 870555 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: surely you're not suggesting i should know something about a programming language before i hate on it < 1358549897 482467 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"programs for large businesses" is impossibly vague < 1358549902 230040 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, it is. < 1358549974 834224 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: But once I know a language I can't hate it unless it actually is horrible < 1358549982 394192 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well then < 1358550034 401072 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't like this thing where all software is either awesome magic pony rainbows, or unusable garbage < 1358550040 628969 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact most software is solidly okay < 1358550051 104253 :TeruFSX2!~TeruFSX@174-20-15-143.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1358550066 609237 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most software is buggy if you look close enough, but people learn to walk around the bugs < 1358550077 405298 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's ok because humans are buggy too < 1358550091 250907 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How are humans buggy? < 1358550111 230197 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: also as a diehard snobol4 programmer that is exacty what i'm saying!!! < 1358550143 87578 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Have you ever seen an optical illusion? Or irrational decisions? < 1358550157 120930 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are those bugs? < 1358550166 728256 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i will be very impressed if you have a good definition of "rational" for this < 1358550173 196058 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well optical illusions can be considered features < 1358550174 480579 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: no all software is in fact unusable rubbish < 1358550176 653591 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :SORRY < 1358550182 418015 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :But irrational decisions can lead to all sorts of problems < 1358550211 880367 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what about @ < 1358550223 341116 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Ones that benefit the person more than the other choice, and where the person has all the information needed to make the choice and the capability to process it adequately < 1358550224 230561 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull, how can you have a bug in something that wasn't even designed with a purpose < 1358550291 989811 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: not really software < 1358550307 237604 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull, "benefit" might not be the best approach. "Works towards the goal that the person has in mind" might be better < 1358550331 107773 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: example of this?S < 1358550334 633970 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If someone wants to benefit someone else at their own expense, it's not irrational to choose the thing that will most accomplish that goal < 1358550350 289464 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: Assuming the person has a goal above "don't get hurt, stay alive, be comfortable" < 1358550362 266943 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also yeah, "benefit the person" isn't exactly in the human design doc. < 1358550397 506758 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: What if the benefit is feeling better < 1358550411 984402 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this discussion is stupid btw < 1358550414 250046 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or rather < 1358550422 563922 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it will rapidly approach maximum stupidity if allowed to continue < 1358550423 454762 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah well you're stupid < 1358550432 487267 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well nobody even knows what they're arguing about < 1358550438 467750 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in < 1358550451 148440 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see any evidence that anyone even agrees over what the disagreement is < 1358550517 355006 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly i think "humans are irrational" is something thrown around by people who've seen some intro game theory and don't work on psychology or sociology much, and it bugs me a bit, which is why i'm writing this silly message instead of, what else was i doing, reading probably < 1358550535 455028 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull, you could construct a scenario where someone's goal may not involve any benefit including feeling better. There's an example I read: You're a mother, aliens come, they state that either your child will be tortured but you will be made to believe they have a happy life, or your child will have a happy life and you will be made to be tortured < 1358550553 778376 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok wow forget it yeah < 1358550556 485955 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any personal "benefit" of choosing the second over the first is purely temporary < 1358550566 41318 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm, "you will be made to believe that they are being tortured" < 1358550573 282199 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not "you will be made to be tortured" < 1358550625 654210 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: remember when you said I was stupid instead of nodding your head at my wisdom < 1358550634 249297 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: thx 4 "the update" < 1358550642 345646 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid wisdom < 1358550657 126861 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :By the way the funny thing is that I run an OotS RSS feed. < 1358550662 153808 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eep am I being called the center of the stupidity of this discussion? < 1358550668 233313 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, OOTS has an RSS feed < 1358550671 364401 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :from giantitip < 1358550675 556302 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know. < 1358550681 738823 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not one that shows the pictures, though. < 1358550685 31586 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have to click on the link. < 1358550686 235411 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1358550695 751692 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also run an SMBC RSS feed that shows the votey. < 1358550699 367956 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't use either of them.) < 1358551102 128705 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should just do what kmc did and write resume via LaTeX < 1358551106 246995 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Likely to be less broken < 1358551119 27166 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'd need to learn how to LaTeX < 1358551153 646143 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're applying for grad school, right? You'd need to learn that anyway. < 1358551201 239632 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it looks like Aaron Swartz was a big fan of Ray Dalio's < 1358551218 575320 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa, copumpkin talking in #esoteric < 1358551220 394390 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it christmas < 1358551225 812972 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not! < 1358551227 467112 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :who's Ray Dalio? < 1358551232 992849 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: very rich guy < 1358551238 79787 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: you can just copy that template (or one of a few others) and make content changes < 1358551242 231750 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, I think I'm not going to work on grad school < 1358551247 611671 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't really need to understand LaTeX deeply < 1358551247 871971 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, I lost the link < 1358551257 774868 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i used http://www.mcnabbs.org/andrew/linux/latexres/ < 1358551263 538593 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ty < 1358551264 737951 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if you google "latex resume" you will find a few others < 1358551266 971150 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pick one that you like :) < 1358551334 535019 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :this whole series seems kinda inspired by him: http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/rawnerve < 1358551343 505748 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :and several of the articles cite him directly < 1358551392 106760 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: resume describing your experience manufacturing latex < 1358551421 164362 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: the twist is, it's printed on latex! < 1358551424 285185 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :at Vandelay Industries? < 1358551466 854867 :dessos!~derk@c-174-60-176-249.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PART :#esoteric < 1358551607 165509 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1358551632 605242 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1358551648 932676 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, I think I can get the hang of this < 1358551675 359130 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1358551868 511152 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1358551905 317446 :FreeFull_!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1358551910 479266 :FreeFull_!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PART :#esoteric < 1358551974 425899 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi copumpkin < 1358551979 317318 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome copumpkin < 1358551980 697353 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1358552065 488181 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1358552220 997642 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, ooh, there's a line for proficient and a line for familiar < 1358552233 553149 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does this mean I get to list every language I've ever tried as something I'm "familiar" with? < 1358552251 417599 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: thanks! < 1358552276 578933 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no the police will arrest you < 1358552304 604972 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh god yes do that < 1358552324 23122 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.175 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1358552567 371229 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=freespire < 1358552572 395348 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Last Update: Tuesday 14 August 2012 04:36 GMT" < 1358552590 177840 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :....why does it still need to be updated. Has it changed from being dead to still being dead? < 1358552626 519108 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1358552631 443246 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://fiberandfumes.tumblr.com/post/38178202379/text-mode-this-letter-was-sent-to-a-russian < 1358552758 389140 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Proficient: Python, C#, LSL; Familiar: Javascript, Haskell, Clojure, Ruby, Java, Tcl, Smalltalk < 1358552764 965801 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure there's more to go in the familiar column < 1358552772 573786 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Factor seems a bit silly to add < 1358552846 349738 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, do it < 1358552867 121173 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Factor, Racket (formerly PLT Scheme < 1358552869 131174 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1358552884 398798 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Artist Formerly Known As Lisp < 1358552917 676338 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if I really count as proficient with C# :/ < 1358552929 133598 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a resume, the entire point is arrogance < 1358553077 271690 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I should probably do the résumé thing. < 1358553092 775956 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: pfft < 1358553096 44711 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: don't do it! they'll give you a job! < 1358553096 489545 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would you do that! < 1358553117 156385 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a big trade-off with resumes < 1358553136 574386 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :whether to write résumé, and risk people thinking you're pretentious, or to write resume and risk people thinking you're uneducated < 1358553147 538542 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rêsumê < 1358553171 9326 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: What do I write if I want people to think I'm crazy? < 1358553187 786425 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Curriculum mortis < 1358553193 889235 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :rësumë < 1358553210 95226 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like "resume" because I always read it as "resume" instead of "resume". < 1358553216 311505 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: anything promoting extreme instrumental rationality < 1358553222 904734 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I call it CV, no latin, no funny letters, nothing < 1358553235 289727 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: they have slightly different connotations, in the US at least < 1358553275 418170 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1358553310 575849 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, what's the difference? < 1358553324 319953 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CVs are usually academic? < 1358553328 566105 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, and more detailed < 1358553341 883538 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :will often have a list of all papers, talks, P.C. memberships, etc. < 1358553436 450238 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure I forgot some languages that I could list < 1358553443 639311 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not going to list Scala, I barely remember a thing < 1358553453 232162 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you forgot LSL < 1358553455 730057 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1358553458 483950 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :never mind < 1358553487 210490 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :15:46:12 Factor seems a bit silly to add < 1358553489 447750 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yet lsl isn't < 1358553502 156968 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is LSL like LTL? < 1358553509 30891 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :LTL is "pretty cool i hear" < 1358553517 46651 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but instead of being linear temporal logic it's linden scripting language < 1358553518 380143 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :LSL could, in theory, land me a job. I think < 1358553524 882722 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: sounds like it's a US vs british thing even, where the british "CV" seems to be what I'd call CV/résumé < 1358553527 650448 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65-183-140-119-dhcp.burlingtontelecom.net QUIT :Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com < 1358553543 269543 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: *copumpkin < 1358553555 753602 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I'm kind of familiar with PHP < 1358553557 756025 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1358553568 748521 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :u know u want the php jobs < 1358553570 625964 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love php < 1358553572 480809 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is so easy < 1358553573 679195 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: yeah, I think so < 1358553580 769380 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf... < 1358553593 458614 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: SORRY I WENT FOR A LONG TIME WITHOUT IT