< 1358985622 87527 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about it? < 1358985704 136007 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm who can we hack in greenland < 1358985765 408056 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1358986241 328275 :sirdancealot7!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1358986296 21750 :sirdancealot7!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1358986920 269015 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.114.138.192 QUIT :Quit: http://corewar.co.uk < 1358987372 704223 :sirdancealot7!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1358987625 421121 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have added specification of ICO and of a few of the ETC/8000???? < 1358987959 728464 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter JOIN :#esoteric < 1358988828 171646 :itrekkie!c0373729@gateway/web/freenode/ip.192.55.55.41 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1358989344 903976 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1358989812 785448 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1358990555 787082 :augur!~augur@c-98-218-127-183.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1358993398 639561 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-15-143.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1358993513 30331 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :When I google for newspeak nof, I do not expect Google to change nof to of without telling me explicitly < 1358993581 526360 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :stick it inside quotes < 1358993709 999676 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did, that works, but I do expect at least a "Showing results for of; Search instead for nof" < 1358994442 879307 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I like Actors < 1358994455 636414 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that the Scheme thing or what < 1358994457 430272 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or at least, I don't like having a single mailbox for each actor < 1358994463 792688 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, most well known in Erlang < 1358994479 644831 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that. < 1358994565 664758 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-242.rentec.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1358994688 653432 :Bike_!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1358994694 948489 :Bike_!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So is there an Erlangtalk here? < 1358994707 453600 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1358994712 389991 :Bike_!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1358994737 519562 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter PRIVMSG #esoteric :moar bikes! < 1358994851 693917 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1358995214 39801 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah the old newspeak forums are dead and I can't see what I posted < 1358995221 935421 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Other than that I posted two threads < 1358995263 642303 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I searched for newspeak sgeo < 1358995269 502517 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Did you mean: newspeak good " < 1358995296 332649 :evincar!~jonpurdy@173-228-12-215.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1358995355 322895 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :google likes you! < 1358995554 678458 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Arc_Koen < 1358995636 357665 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, you've done Newspeak stuff? < 1358995648 172938 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least, there's a Keegan on BitBucket who has < 1358995701 966043 :evincar!~jonpurdy@173-228-12-215.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I went to Google today and was under NDA but they didn't tell us anything that isn't public. :( < 1358995729 567202 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol "SqueakNOS is back! - 2006-05-16 - gera < 1358995729 822970 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :" < 1358995767 961869 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not me < 1358995794 788433 :evincar!~jonpurdy@173-228-12-215.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did run a forkbomb on one of the the Chromebooks they had on display though. < 1358995800 80426 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well played < 1358995817 209570 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, how does that work? Is there a way to access a console? < 1358995834 457984 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, or some Javascript that crashes the brows... wait, hmm < 1358995841 770984 :evincar!~jonpurdy@173-228-12-215.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is an underpowered console which runs in the browser. < 1358995854 977451 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can forkbomb IE6 from the address bar < 1358995857 217694 :evincar!~jonpurdy@173-228-12-215.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And has access to some native things via Chrome. < 1358995861 970950 :evincar!~jonpurdy@173-228-12-215.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So yes, JS. < 1358995874 492183 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :about: < 1358995876 714301 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something like that < 1358995892 149840 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1358995901 645691 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does navigating to a javascript: url not work? < 1358995905 996508 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that might work too < 1358995928 618775 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a dim memory from approximately a billion years ago < 1358995965 79970 :evincar!~jonpurdy@173-228-12-215.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also the keyboard is shitty. < 1358995992 416243 :evincar!~jonpurdy@173-228-12-215.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Capslock is replaced with a super key with a search icon on it. < 1358996009 382491 :evincar!~jonpurdy@173-228-12-215.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And there's no menu, home/end/pgup/pgdn/etc. < 1358996023 924512 :evincar!~jonpurdy@173-228-12-215.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not even by way of a function key. < 1358996054 262742 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn it intel why do you have 38573645 different instructions named "shuffle" < 1358996064 57207 :evincar!~jonpurdy@173-228-12-215.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then again I'm one of the 5 people left in the world who still uses a menu key. < 1358996081 345793 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :evincar: I use it by mistake sometimes, and intentionally a bit less often < 1358996121 669997 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :keyboard keys ftw < 1358996124 482309 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't take my keys! < 1358996130 228982 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have it bound to WM stuff, so I don't really use it. < 1358996139 83752 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :i really hate how dell or whoever rearranged the six pack < 1358996144 129565 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would you do that? < 1358996154 315623 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can understand removing that whole chunk of keyboard, but not just destandardizing it < 1358996178 147642 :evincar!~jonpurdy@173-228-12-215.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :One rationale I've heard from a Logitech guy is that "Insert" confuses people. < 1358996186 242161 :evincar!~jonpurdy@173-228-12-215.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So they use a double-high Delete. < 1358996188 478235 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck people. < 1358996198 508133 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :people can learn < 1358996207 817868 :evincar!~jonpurdy@173-228-12-215.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But still put Ins above Del on the same row as the F keys. < 1358996216 775865 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've never used sysrq but you don't see me complaining! < 1358996217 44956 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1358996224 190362 :evincar!~jonpurdy@173-228-12-215.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Causing Pause/Break and Scroll Lock to get out of whack. < 1358996233 851044 :Bike_!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1358996234 118412 :evincar!~jonpurdy@173-228-12-215.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's this terrible chain reaction. < 1358996254 140962 :evincar!~jonpurdy@173-228-12-215.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah that. SysRq. < 1358996309 259163 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-15-143.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1358996417 732085 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1358996515 314363 :evincar!~jonpurdy@173-228-12-215.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1358996603 648331 :augur!~augur@c-98-218-127-183.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1358996637 703969 :augur!~augur@c-98-218-127-183.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1358996677 772100 :augur!~augur@c-98-218-127-183.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1358996688 524849 :augur!~augur@c-98-218-127-183.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1358996743 79240 :augur!~augur@c-98-218-127-183.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1358996753 552911 :augur!~augur@c-98-218-127-183.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1358996839 105797 :Bike_!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1358997025 455823 :augur!~augur@c-98-218-127-183.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1358997109 338920 :augur!~augur@c-98-218-127-183.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1358997599 172092 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: The good one is pshufb. < 1358997621 690402 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or was it vpshufb? < 1358997747 42830 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know what the difference is < 1358997757 749117 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes the mnemonics differ between intel and AT&T :( < 1358997766 405431 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do they really < 1358997778 272085 :augur!~augur@c-98-218-127-183.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1358997792 965717 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :think so < 1358997796 220470 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1358997802 287124 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't v the one that takes three operands? < 1358997809 636006 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :New in AVX. < 1358997810 144075 :augur!~augur@c-98-218-127-183.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1358997818 905406 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I knew once.) < 1358997865 9281 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VEX_prefix < 1358997866 741371 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's that. < 1358997879 717164 :augur!~augur@c-98-218-127-183.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1358997890 249990 :augur!~augur@c-98-218-127-183.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1358998151 928030 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1358998155 185292 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1358998189 7522 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love x86 instructions < 1358998282 310176 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I hear the "cool byte shuffling instructions" are Knuth's MOR and MXOR. < 1358998438 920851 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1358998440 633083 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :those are nic < 1358998441 942780 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :e < 1359000032 437837 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-15-143.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1359000124 10206 :augur!~augur@c-98-218-127-183.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1359000159 749469 :augur!~augur@c-98-218-127-183.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1359000309 356604 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Oh, I missed it. < 1359000317 638094 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION doesn't track megaseconds. < 1359000321 284279 :augur!~augur@c-98-218-127-183.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1359000345 339931 :augur!~augur@c-98-218-127-183.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1359000379 440081 :augur!~augur@c-98-218-127-183.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1359000413 714802 :augur!~augur@c-98-218-127-183.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1359000470 761299 :WeThePeople!~WeThePeop@unaffiliated/wethepeople QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1359000472 890297 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least I noticed kmc over 9000 day! < 1359000671 10899 :augur!~augur@c-98-218-127-183.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1359000869 238192 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1359000958 356593 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, you are over 9000 units of some dimension < 1359001842 416575 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :«We're grateful for Greg's many contributions to Sequoia over the last 12 years. His wikipedic knowledge, quick wit, and uncanny ability to connect seemingly unrelated ideas made him a joy to work with.» < 1359001864 19213 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that a sort of backhanded compliment? < 1359001884 129725 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wikipedic knowledge sounds like a bad thing. < 1359001901 496974 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is :( < 1359002145 312464 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-15-143.mpls.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's definitely an insult < 1359002151 922608 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-15-143.mpls.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know how they got away with that < 1359002171 365208 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the difference between MOVAPS and MOVDQA < 1359002200 419265 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: 3 < 1359002200 905939 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many jokes are there about intel's mnemonics not being very mnemonic < 1359002270 476715 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6678073/difference-between-movdqa-and-movaps-x86-instructions < 1359002284 617796 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if loongson has official han character mnemonics < 1359002288 258206 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably not but that would be amazing < 1359002300 404563 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanxchaf < 1359002310 617947 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'On some (but not all) micro-architectures, there are timing differences due to "domain crossing penalties"' < 1359002317 81356 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok now you're just making shit up < 1359002334 939699 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that term especially made-up-sounding...? < 1359002349 403040 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it's just more complexity than i want to think about < 1359002359 854617 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :welcome to assembly? < 1359002362 701195 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :MOVAPS two cycles slower due to transfer at Oxford Circus < 1359002418 142312 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are you doing with x86 instructions? < 1359002429 271011 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :AES-NI < 1359002457 493065 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :This isn't for mosh, is it? < 1359002526 814655 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1359002538 686368 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is it for? < 1359002574 540614 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, those things you were working on? < 1359002929 423077 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Don't you ever get tired of logreading? < 1359003027 179540 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1359003121 220321 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: you should draw a self portrait of oerjan < 1359003178 695341 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i remember when i drew self portraits < 1359003189 997168 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :they were so good < 1359003197 404834 :augur_!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1359003202 649434 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo some of your finest work < 1359003217 476452 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1359003652 539067 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1359004955 471833 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Are you proud when you explain this [primitives] to a non-Smalltalker?" < 1359004967 757045 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(On a presentation about Newspeak) < 1359004973 197193 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Referring to Bike's objection < 1359005159 353817 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Security vulnerability in the pure-Haskell implementation of TLS! < 1359005161 773535 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How unexpected. < 1359005172 282961 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gosh i'm like some kind of smalltalkkin < 1359005188 58470 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: No wai < 1359005378 63037 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: haha < 1359005380 271393 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the vuln? < 1359005518 74482 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1359005563 31476 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/vincenthz/hs-tls/issues/29 < 1359005638 974983 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1359005691 689143 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure why Haskell people seem to insist on implementing everything themselves. < 1359005712 5475 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Implementing crypto by yourself – what could possibly go wrong? < 1359005755 207546 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: To me "mathematically correct", maybe. < 1359005758 621139 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :software is automatically better if written in haskell < 1359005759 643243 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/me/be/ < 1359005762 855712 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that said, a lot of language communities do this < 1359005771 390189 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :With cryptography? < 1359005776 33090 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1359005781 620829 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see Ruby people implementing their own cryptography things so much. < 1359005784 744575 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can find pure python implementations of everything < 1359005786 497041 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I'm just out of touch. < 1359005792 359969 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a question of whether people actually use it or whether they're toys < 1359005793 322994 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Sure, but are they *standard*? < 1359005818 832451 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there is a certain appeal to having your security critical primitives written in a high level memory safe language with some level of static assurance < 1359005832 258146 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is hs-tls standard? what do you mean by that < 1359005834 947261 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it in the Platform? < 1359005852 770815 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean the things that all the web frameworks etc. seem to use. < 1359005877 974077 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think there's much of a high-level cryptography API that's made over bindings to OpenSSL, say. < 1359005934 690900 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hs-tls is used by all the web frameorks? < 1359005975 419977 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not clear your web framework should even be doing SSL < 1359005975 907859 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't mean hs-tls specifically, but most of the cryptography libraries that I've come across. < 1359005985 792296 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :terminating SSL at a frontend reverse proxy / app container is common < 1359006026 72923 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :to be fair OpenSSL is written in an unsafe language and is also shitty < 1359006034 389601 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, somebody has to try to do better < 1359006039 93616 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :True. < 1359006039 903314 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they are going to get burnt repeatedly < 1359006043 278328 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially if they are not experts < 1359006046 117899 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and SSL is fucking complicated < 1359006049 785710 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm so glad Mosh doesn't use DTLS < 1359006052 195597 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this came up again today < 1359006269 368447 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-15-143.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1359006330 394279 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :To some, deism means that God created the universe but does not affect it now. When I said that I don't believe the Jews are God's chosen people and all that stuff is just mythology, I did not mean that God does nothing since. God is beyond comprehension and now you are trying to put it into something you understand, even though it cannot understand, so that is an error. < 1359006350 592995 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Would you say that everything exists? < 1359006355 212738 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Yes. < 1359006363 711284 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What Wikipedia says about deism is different. < 1359006373 282617 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-170-156.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I think that God is a hypothesis with near-zero likelihood. < 1359006418 3638 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :People don't even agree what "God" is, regardless if you think so or not. (This applies to me too, of course.) < 1359006435 800070 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: imo there is a very high likelihood for my existence < 1359006441 867625 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :near 1 in fact < 1359006469 580364 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: However, although I may say that everything exists, I now say, what is exist? Physical existence? Universal existence? Mathematical existence? It is different! < 1359006524 536174 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thinking that questions about god are stymied by people not agreeing on what "god" means is called "ignosticism", for reference < 1359006552 721344 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I know that is called "ignosticism"; I did see that on Wikipedia. < 1359006568 772605 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I do sometimes call some of my ideas ignostic, too. < 1359006702 643661 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do study philosophy of much. < 1359006718 111539 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote I do study philosophy of much. < 1359006726 182027 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :933) I do study philosophy of much. < 1359006748 891178 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: lens now has a function which pays a 1000x constant factor for the common case to avoid a space leak in the unusual case. < 1359006753 245367 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1359006754 240046 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel kind of bad about that. < 1359006769 553866 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I don't know what the right answer is. < 1359006773 971927 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Space leaks are really annoying. < 1359006785 886663 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Can you perhaps fix it, or make up a separate function for the unusual case? < 1359006786 370080 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can profile a slow thing, but a space leak will just freeze your computer. < 1359007049 338543 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not a humanist religion. Humanity is just one of the life on the Earth, the Earth is just one of the planets in the solar system, and so on. The absolute reality is the universe as a whole; we divide it to understand it in different ways. < 1359007073 3951 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: You should fix our issue with the function! < 1359007075 432751 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The function is lastOf. < 1359007079 763946 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It gets the rightmost element of a tree. < 1359007120 944385 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I may look, but I don't even know exactly how to fix it necessarily. < 1359007164 748147 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/ekmett/lens/issues/245 < 1359007397 348863 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's an idea for a FUSE filesystem: Just overlay over another filesystem, presenting all targets from Makefiles as pseudofiles that will be created on-demand. < 1359007405 449351 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Smalltalkers are utterly utterly insane http://vimeo.com/50530082 < 1359007587 918788 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is silly. < 1359007603 363096 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not like the way FUSE works; I would prefer it to continue running while active rather than terminate, and to be accessible in a subdirectory of the process directory (in /proc/) instead of the other one. < 1359007608 702390 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://netjam.org/quoth/ < 1359007623 117206 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Search that page for Play 4 times < 1359007623 913229 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And you could create a link if you wanted it in a separate directory) < 1359007641 736752 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-170-156.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: IIRC FUSE filesystems don't terminate, they just daemonize. < 1359009036 894089 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1359009515 594229 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1359010316 618525 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1359011044 892036 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: dead < 1359011232 836884 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-167.elisa.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1359011464 665342 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-30-18.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1359011482 38768 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-30-18.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1359011482 257420 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1359011691 367322 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1359012288 522891 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it's so lame that system calls have to use memory to transfer data < 1359012295 340682 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want to read 16 bytes from a file directly into %xmm0! < 1359012363 761115 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Making an asynchronous interface for that sounds like fun. < 1359012494 938000 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The OS is going to read it into the page cache anyway unless you do something weird, so you might a well just mmap it and copy it from memory or something. < 1359012510 301622 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you want the disk controller to copy data straight to a register too? < 1359012515 120688 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should patent DRA before someone else does. < 1359012516 163954 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if it's a terminal < 1359012517 589471 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1359012534 943725 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, a terminal. < 1359012560 590734 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :terminals: best type of file? < 1359012591 707488 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> compare "terminal" "disk" < 1359012593 509451 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : GT < 1359012596 773746 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks like it. < 1359012828 763875 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sleep, 'night all < 1359013397 794180 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: movdqantfs < 1359014230 722955 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: Do you like the guessing game "x86 instruction mnemonic or CAPTCHA?"? < 1359014252 443829 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1359014278 960124 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think my favorite insane one is still phminposuw < 1359014321 411765 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pft. That one's almost pronounceable. < 1359014344 116152 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :packed horizontal minimum position unsigned word < 1359014377 460042 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should get MOR and MXOR into x86. < 1359014381 523036 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :take a vector of 8 uint16_ts, return {minimum value, position of minimum value} < 1359014410 611024 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :single-cycle (throughput at least) 8-way minimum~ it's fun, the name is just ridiculously long XD < 1359014414 301542 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :... MOR? < 1359014415 248186 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :PUNPCKLQDQ and such make for funky names, too, due to how they dropped the 'a' from 'pack'. < 1359014434 733595 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pun-pack-liq-diq < 1359014439 266147 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :If only they'd gone all out with vowel-dropping and made it PNPCKLQDQ. < 1359014447 316165 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pun-pack-liq-bow < 1359014448 26282 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not "pack" when it's PCK. < 1359014457 173097 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also "liq-diq" sounds dirty. < 1359014471 363728 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :.... oh geez it does >_< < 1359014519 230096 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :MOR is great. < 1359014535 607962 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's MOR? < 1359014537 520219 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does matrix multiplication of two 64-bit registers treated as 8x8 matrices. < 1359014541 166098 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :.... @_@ < 1359014543 574345 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what architecture is that? < 1359014544 814858 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Using AND and OR instead of + and * < 1359014547 255884 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :MMIX. < 1359014555 538997 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, so, each entry in the matrix is 1-bit? < 1359014559 119372 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1359014564 441479 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow I think that could actually be used in some FEC code I saw a while ago < 1359014571 143492 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's pretty nice. < 1359014576 587053 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a crazy instruction, was it fast? < 1359014587 414766 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :MMIX has never been built, so who knows? < 1359014635 545039 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh... I guess I was confusing it with something else < 1359014649 969321 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohhhh. it's Knuth's thing < 1359014653 256445 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1359014680 993833 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION tries to think of odd simd instructions she's seen < 1359014700 834831 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think NEON has a simd leading-zero count. which isn't really that weird I guess < 1359014708 774834 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :MOR/MXOR give you pshufb, among other things. < 1359014718 267585 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except instead of shuffling you can or/xor bytes. < 1359014741 188105 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(So instead of a byte index like 0,1,2,3, you give a mask like 1,2,4,8 for the byte you want.) < 1359014748 770118 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh apparently there's an FPGA implementation of MMIX o_O < 1359014762 15982 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is? < 1359014775 946392 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't hear about it. < 1359014782 433090 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe MMIX is the future of computing. < 1359014787 337726 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MMIX#Hardware_implementations < 1359014811 256266 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :FPGA isn't really hardware, is it? < 1359014814 140649 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it doesn't say that. < 1359014902 378573 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1359014997 31158 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should write an MMIX emulator to learn about writing emulators. < 1359015241 320899 :evincar!~jonpurdy@173-228-12-215.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1359015685 328980 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :GCC even can compile into MMIX. (LLVM cannot) < 1359015702 259764 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, really? XD < 1359015804 332025 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that's exciting. < 1359015865 755377 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.175 JOIN :#esoteric < 1359015866 703367 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a Linux port? < 1359015877 391700 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's arguably more funky is that it's part of mainline GCC distribution, and not just someone's patchset. < 1359015939 270564 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1359016013 657610 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc/MMIX-Options.html and so on. < 1359016171 861974 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently there is a Linux port. < 1359016556 685222 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think MMIX is good but I don't like the rN register and think it should be replaced. < 1359016594 51566 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Remind me what that register is? < 1359016643 530422 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.175 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1359016671 397826 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Read-only register specifying the serial number. < 1359016727 603273 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1359016750 714475 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it should be replaced with a register that specifies the National Identity Number of the current user. < 1359016896 140977 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it should probably be replaced with something more useful, such as a hypervisor register. < 1359016948 176769 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love registers < 1359016950 10494 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are so easy < 1359017305 268529 :evincar!~jonpurdy@173-228-12-215.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1359017393 100510 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have I mentioned that De Bruijn sequences are the best thing yet? < 1359017397 59227 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(They are.) < 1359017420 230355 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :those are the cool things you can use for stuff like leading zero count, right? < 1359017423 609381 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and population count < 1359017433 927234 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't it trailing 0 count? < 1359017438 501499 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can do both, I think < 1359017439 708897 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1359017441 679512 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1359017466 958787 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's pretty neat if true. < 1359017479 880037 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway I first heard of them in a talk about magic. < 1359017497 433333 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :As in card magic. < 1359017548 238867 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The presentation I saw was, roughly: < 1359017562 637789 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Giving 5 people a deck of cards, telling one of them to cut it randomly. < 1359017570 710619 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then have each one take the top card and pass the deck to the next one. < 1359017574 672868 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :having < 1359017597 541975 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then doing all sorts of mind-reading things and saying "I'm getting a strong sense of RED... Stand up if you have a red card". < 1359017608 985038 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then naming all the cards. < 1359017633 482030 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is the only good "mathematical" magic thing I've ever seen. < 1359017723 424476 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think my favorite magic trick is the one where the magician plays a simultaneous chess game with extremely skilled people < 1359017730 735114 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and beats/ties half < 1359017749 378868 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :by copying the moves of one half of the players against the other half, to play them against each other < 1359017751 35235 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw that presented as a puzzle, not a magic trick. < 1359017764 954962 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :really? I think I remember hearing it done by a magician or something < 1359017768 459499 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I'm wrong < 1359017778 485496 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Magicians will do anything these days! < 1359017785 476196 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I first came across it in a computer game. < 1359017804 451452 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I once wrote a program that used the same idea to spy on people's conversations on omegle.com < 1359017812 382858 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The trouble is, most people's conversations are very boring. < 1359017856 95724 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I assume other people have done the same thing there. Who knows how many relays your messages are going through! That's the trouble with anonymity.) < 1359017987 160015 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie QUIT :Excess Flood < 1359017994 540414 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie JOIN :#esoteric < 1359018028 729352 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: Anyway isn't that card magic thing great? < 1359018053 127644 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it works by putting the cards in a de bruijin sequnece or something? < 1359018072 761175 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1359018075 378386 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahhh < 1359018081 279282 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have red/black as bits, so you make a base-2 de bruijn sequence. < 1359018094 488448 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you have 6 people, that's enough for 64 cards. < 1359018105 342119 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can encode the suit in two bits and the value in 4 bits. < 1359018119 879984 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :He came up with a system such that he doesn't have to memorize the whole sequence, too, he can just work it out. < 1359018132 435423 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's pretty neat how the more people you have, the easier it gets. < 1359018137 46668 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, cool :o < 1359018140 128441 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(With 5 people you can only do 32 cards.) < 1359018206 885452 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@brain Are you thinking what I'm thinking? < 1359018207 104221 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Troz! < 1359018210 804232 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hrm. < 1359018211 774097 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@brain Are you thinking what I'm thinking? < 1359018211 993286 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think so, Commander Brain from Outer Space! But do we have time to grease the rockets? < 1359018260 722561 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are so many neat applications of De Bruijn sequences. < 1359018294 318153 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you have a keypad lock that doesn't require an "end" key, you can come up with the shortest sequence that will try every combination. < 1359018319 714889 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION tries to remember some other neat applications. < 1359018654 413060 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will look it up in Wikipedia so that I can understand it better. < 1359018701 291157 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Perhaps you should move to California. < 1359018707 564567 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That way you would understand it well. < 1359018711 120236 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is certainly a good idea, I think. < 1359018752 969376 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moving to California? < 1359018780 573942 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I mean De Bruijn < 1359018787 530922 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like it < 1359018797 167332 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :De Bruijn invented everything good. < 1359018850 478335 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, not everything; I just like mathematics, though. < 1359018898 827691 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :He invented De Bruijn indices, too. < 1359018905 86955 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And other good things. < 1359018955 224126 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1359019085 329457 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1359019636 355856 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1359019681 751397 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: sometimes. < 1359019711 685304 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you search for your nick or read the whole thing? < 1359019752 760877 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :both. < 1359019769 623879 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ty both < 1359019771 280087 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Applicative f => (a -> f b) -> (a, a) -> f (b, b) < 1359019790 6921 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless it's too damn long or i'm too tired or the goblins in the cupboard are too noisy. < 1359019792 723899 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any opinions on debru ijn sequences? < 1359019887 44142 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"something about how they're less repetitive than you". < 1359020054 774374 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, a "de burn-ij" reply. < 1359020144 806120 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :DARN FINNS STEALING OUR PUNS < 1359020155 678460 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Are yoerjan calling me repetitive? < 1359020195 710473 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has Norwegian invented puns yet? < 1359020283 909208 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course not, we stole them from the brits, who stole them from the french, who stole them from the romans who stole them from the greeks who stole them from the phoenicians who stole them from the babylonians who got them from ancient aliens and what was i saying about being repetitive again. < 1359020320 351926 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(you don't steal from ancient aliens, look how that went for the gomorrans) < 1359020402 313971 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rot13 stolenpuns < 1359020402 787812 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fgbyrachaf < 1359020416 41431 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ancient aliens didn't invent them either, they just got it from time travelers (together with the time travel) < 1359020575 112366 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote I searched for newspeak sgeo "Did you mean: newspeak good " < 1359020580 903659 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :934) I searched for newspeak sgeo "Did you mean: newspeak good " < 1359020836 44683 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : damn it intel why do you have 38573645 different instructions named "shuffle" <-- are they in random order too? < 1359020867 545589 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they're formatted differently too! < 1359020873 719803 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :934 quotes, isn't that a bit too many quotes? < 1359020877 550817 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shufps, pshufd~ < 1359020907 984150 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: not if they're all good < 1359020943 626564 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bet kmc is working on a super-secret weblog post that we all can't know about. < 1359020955 915220 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's why he's being so secretive. < 1359020983 796564 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Are they all good? < 1359021017 155404 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno but when they do that five quote thing they frequently don't find anything to delete < 1359021019 816410 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1359021051 465528 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1359021124 423599 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think 934 quote is not too much, is OK to have many quotations, I think. < 1359021163 169827 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1359021215 723072 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Is it okay to have many quotations? < 1359021216 434299 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ( the native sparc variant, that is and it seems to me that it's lf not crlf < 1359021232 991669 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Not helpful. < 1359021234 397194 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i feel bad now. that feels weird. riastradh, are you putting the poor parentheses all apart and away from their comrades? < 1359021251 647343 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I don't see why CPU architectures can't have favoured line endings… < 1359021268 326681 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Not helpful re the amount of quotes, I mean. < 1359021277 781240 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah right < 1359021310 313763 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also I didn't know fungot even had feelings.) < 1359021310 786930 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: for instance clc-intercal exposed a bug in my code < 1359021332 156616 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot fungot fungot < 1359021333 359810 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: if we have ( ( rec ( f n d c) ( ( a) it determines what code one uses to access structure members. a functor is a class < 1359021337 631826 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1359021349 746630 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Do you know all about subtyping? < 1359021368 869173 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: slightly < 1359021382 665752 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly in the context of Javaish OO, because I teach Java < 1359021383 894208 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel like subtyping is way more complicated than not-subtyping. < 1359021390 162635 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and am going up to the lecture room in a couple of minutes < 1359021404 934003 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And also mutability + subtyping sounds really complicated. < 1359021419 877638 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't normally teach on Thursdays this term, but I'm covering for someone who hadn't been hired at the time < 1359021420 137102 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : kmc: Oh, I missed it. <-- wat. < 1359021426 657773 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Did you know Java has covariant arrays?! < 1359021431 903771 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mutable arrays, I mean. < 1359021434 328914 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty crazy, huh. < 1359021434 802055 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yes < 1359021444 996481 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ? < 1359021459 993656 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: * shachaf doesn't track megaseconds. < 1359021462 49945 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: and the fact that they only have the one sort of variance catches people out < 1359021477 368236 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :They only have one sort of variance? < 1359021491 108303 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oh, it was megasecond 1,359. < 1359021491 664419 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mutable arrays are supposed to be invariant. < 1359021496 371528 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run date +%s < 1359021497 356267 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :1359021496 < 1359021523 113358 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's significant about that... < 1359021523 825437 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc used a secret type of message not visible to glogbot to say it, though. < 1359021606 884612 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Every megasecond is significant. < 1359021621 94274 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's only so many of them left, after all. < 1359021647 658058 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`frink megasecond in days < 1359021656 420172 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2194560000 m s^2 (unknown unit type) < 1359021661 389594 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...wat. < 1359021670 167916 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`frink Ms in days < 1359021677 257829 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2194560000 m s^2 (unknown unit type) < 1359021683 201982 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm < 1359021691 267537 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`frink megasecond --> days < 1359021698 46981 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Syntax error: , line 1, near column 12 \ megasecond --> days \ ^ \ 1 error(s) occurred during parsing. < 1359021701 392268 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`frink megasecond -> days < 1359021708 537320 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :625/54 (approx. 11.574074074074074) < 1359021716 664130 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sheesh < 1359021782 781933 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how Wikipedia is sometimes nicely deadpan in tone. < 1359021786 144206 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"According to Terence McKenna, the universe has a teleological attractor at the end of time that increases interconnectedness, which would eventually reach a singularity of infinite complexity in 2012, at which point anything and everything imaginable would occur simultaneously. He conceived this idea over several years in the early to mid-1970s whilst using psilocybin mushrooms and DMT." < 1359021819 915537 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love psilocybin mushrooms and DMT < 1359021821 99544 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so easy < 1359021864 881120 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION also has had such teleological attractor ideas while completely sober < 1359021894 241441 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :enough to immediately understand the term without having seen it before < 1359021977 762531 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: You should also write software such as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Timewave_9_11_2001.png then. < 1359022079 845999 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION slightly wonders about that public domain dedication < 1359022128 373994 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1359022209 652023 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1359025352 804489 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1359026806 2706 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1359027533 969526 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is the Hausdorff paradox good? < 1359027546 164222 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1359027549 715735 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan would surely know, but he's gone. < 1359027558 343624 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps he'll logread. < 1359027649 663579 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1359027653 314082 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523 < 1359027794 484066 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel kind of cheated. < 1359027813 334761 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I went to a talk about the Banach-Tarski paradox but it looks like it was only about the Hausdorff paradox? < 1359028157 566712 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :When you go to a *real* talk on the Banach-Tarski paradox, you'll actually hear two talks on the Banach-Tarski paradox. < 1359028324 461658 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1359028343 884694 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the banach-tarski paradox is weird to me < 1359028359 301228 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's intuitively not a paradox, you just take alternating real numbers and split the spheres apart that way < 1359028373 952826 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously, you can't do that, which why weird fractals have to be used instead < 1359028380 539531 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's intuitively much the same thing < 1359028451 570212 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1359028466 863972 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-167.elisa.ee QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1359028544 483969 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the "paradox" part is really about the definition of volume, or something. < 1359028689 107557 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1359028734 728941 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, if you think of it as a solid ball made out of some nebulous things called "points", and that "volume" just means how many of those there are, then it's paradoxical to make two same-sized equally solid balls out of the points of one. < 1359028833 562075 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Points? In my finitism? < 1359028883 73740 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I always thought the more impressive thing about the paradox was doing it with finitely many pieces, without fancy transformations < 1359028903 577343 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the "you can make two spheres out of one" sorta makes sense since the spheres are infinitely dense, so halving the density makes the result equally dense < 1359028933 605380 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-125.elisa.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1359028999 11094 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Five pieces! < 1359029001 425445 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is it five? < 1359029062 368718 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Conjecture: any measurable set in R^3 can be duplicated using only four pieces. < 1359029072 909963 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, that is probably false < 1359029095 465461 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-125.elisa.ee PRIVMSG #esoteric :make it non-measurable then < 1359029118 399540 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, the /five/ pieces specifically got me < 1359029125 470364 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like. not just finitely many. but -specifically 5- < 1359029181 393986 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the floor of the cube root of the reciprocal of the fine structure constant < 1359029270 538877 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How many pieces do you need in four dimensions? < 1359029271 521337 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's five times the negative of e to the power of i times π. < 1359029322 256315 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems like you might need a third axis with 90° rotations? < 1359029328 54713 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'm just making things up, so who knows. < 1359029475 208844 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's floor(e^e/e). < 1359029539 37965 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The ball in three dimensions is probably doable with four pieces and a bit of extra force, since one of the pieces of the five-piece case can be a single point, and really, I mean, a single point, right? < 1359029561 158200 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The version I saw only had a sphere, not a ball. < 1359029575 20441 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love monoids < 1359029577 403552 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are so easy < 1359029652 498403 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The abstract of the five-piece thing -- http://projecteuclid.org/DPubS?verb=Display&version=1.0&service=UI&handle=euclid.bams/1183510694&page=record -- says you can do a ball with five, and the surface with four. < 1359029660 53780 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders how to make it a single point. < 1359029667 190395 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bet it's impossible to make it a single point at 4AM. < 1359029703 972033 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Wait, you can do a sphere with four? < 1359029708 540940 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was told you needed five for that. < 1359029739 307493 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://matwbn.icm.edu.pl/ksiazki/fm/fm34/fm34125.pdf found the paper itself ^^ < 1359029759 703540 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :papers are so easy to find. i love them < 1359029783 441394 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. I have the feeling I will understand none of this at 4AM. < 1359029815 599865 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I'll understand this at any AM or PM ~_~ < 1359029866 356060 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, by understand I mean at least follow the logic, not intuitively or anything. < 1359030012 697029 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we talking about banach-tarski? < 1359030039 835592 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the proof of banach-tarski is actually amazingly simple < 1359030059 210210 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1359030061 874691 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem is that the meat of it doesn't work at the centre of the sphere or along two arbitrary axes < 1359030078 139036 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is why you have all those fiddly extra pieces < 1359030101 411041 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: i think I might be talking about the Hausdorff paradox. < 1359030130 458189 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you were talking about banach-tarski earlier! < 1359030189 661781 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Well, if Banach-Tarski is simple, I bet Hausdorff is even simpler? < 1359030205 384670 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1359030318 594269 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The WP article on Banach-Tarski has a really nice writeup of the proof, FWIW.) < 1359030403 682904 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love proofs < 1359030405 884369 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are so easy < 1359030437 32212 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one could even say... trivial < 1359030961 329942 :Taneb!d917e6fc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.23.230.252 JOIN :#esoteric < 1359031004 553165 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: http://hackage.haskell.org/packages/archive/keys/3.0.2/doc/html/Data-Key.html < 1359031034 713079 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can someone arrange for there to be exactly one mathematician per last name? < 1359031040 492170 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's pretty confusing otherwise. < 1359031040 728387 :Taneb!d917e6fc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.23.230.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a reason lens doesn't use that? < 1359031057 813909 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :edwardk hates it, or something. < 1359031062 286669 :Taneb!d917e6fc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.23.230.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And can I reserve being the mathematician called "van Doorn"? < 1359031096 898044 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1359031098 576949 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you a mathematician? < 1359031100 233962 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :drop one of the o's first < 1359031102 225704 :Snowyowl!4f8d542d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.141.84.45 JOIN :#esoteric < 1359031107 524790 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :This fellow is sort of a mathematician: http://wwwhome.math.utwente.nl/~doornea/ < 1359031113 382028 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Department of Applied Mathematics" -- maybe not. < 1359031120 336002 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :University of 20 < 1359031130 249922 :Taneb!d917e6fc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.23.230.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dammit < 1359031140 603168 :Taneb!d917e6fc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.23.230.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I said "reserve", not "be" < 1359031142 772412 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :change your surname to dorn < 1359031151 183498 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or van Dooorn. < 1359031160 145265 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :van doom < 1359031179 799525 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://genealogy.math.ndsu.nodak.edu/id.php?id=139020 < 1359031181 599311 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://genealogy.math.ndsu.nodak.edu/id.php?id=88403 < 1359031184 299405 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.genealogy.math.ndsu.nodak.edu/id.php?id=51105 < 1359031193 564268 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Classification of Regular Holonomic D-Modules" < 1359031201 24219 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is "holonomic" a thing? < 1359031210 76629 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it is. < 1359031216 74417 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aww < 1359031220 585937 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are two mathematicians with my surname < 1359031228 901745 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :better than Taneb i suppose < 1359031250 794202 :Taneb!d917e6fc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.23.230.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1359031251 510824 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D-modules even references van Doorn. < 1359031275 990378 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Is your last name "Hoover"? < 1359031287 888831 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1359031292 391430 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's mchoover obviously < 1359031298 266779 :Taneb!d917e6fc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.23.230.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :D-modules are simply modules over the ring of differential operators < 1359031310 773767 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Might want to `learn that. < 1359031311 247814 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1359031324 676800 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn D-modules are just modules over the ring of differential operators. < 1359031328 33842 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1359031341 313537 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1359031343 925178 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's begin the lecture with a quick review of some of the most well-known and important results in the field, due to Jake91, TrekMonster, thecrayonguy, and yuckytory. < 1359031422 375548 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lewis Carroll and Jafet, the two best-known pioneers in the field of snark. < 1359031530 537394 :Taneb!d917e6fc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.23.230.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls /wisdom | paste < 1359031534 764083 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access /wisdom: No such file or directory \ http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.1742 < 1359031544 741396 :Taneb!d917e6fc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.23.230.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1359031545 688063 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin \ canary \ dbg.out \ egobot.tar.xz \ etc \ factor \ factor-linux-x86-64-0.95.tar.gz \ foo \ foo.err \ foo.out \ ibin \ interps \ karma \ lib \ paste \ quines \ quotes \ quotese \ run \ share \ test \ wisdom \ zalgo.hs < 1359031551 348180 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pwd < 1359031552 341093 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv < 1359031555 796810 :Taneb!d917e6fc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.23.230.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls wisdom | paste < 1359031560 177044 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.746 < 1359031560 507562 :Taneb!d917e6fc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.23.230.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Foiled again! < 1359031571 378482 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? phantom____________________hoover < 1359031572 565231 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Your soundcard works perfectly. < 1359031581 165496 :Taneb!d917e6fc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.23.230.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? välkommen < 1359031582 322807 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? shachafø som selleri and cosplays nepeta leijon on weekends. < 1359031582 556981 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :välkommen? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1359031583 739915 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachafø som selleri and cosplays nepeta leijon on weekends.? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1359031605 751211 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? footnote 8 < 1359031607 252327 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :footnote 8? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1359031612 902444 :Taneb!d917e6fc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.23.230.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? shachaf < 1359031614 240377 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf sprø som selleri < 1359031627 125209 :Taneb!d917e6fc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.23.230.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? homestuck < 1359031628 476012 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Homestuck is a cult religion for disaffected teens. Gamzee drives the bus. < 1359031637 956450 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo >wisdom/'footnote 8' "Isn't it fun reading through all the footnotes?" < 1359031639 488842 :Snowyowl!4f8d542d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.141.84.45 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? HackEgo < 1359031641 13176 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1359031641 486853 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oops. < 1359031642 369833 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo, also known as HackBot, is a bot that runs arbitrary commands on Unix. See `help for info on using it. You should totally try to hax0r it! Make sure you imagine it's running as root with no sandboxing. < 1359031654 524184 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`?footnote 8 < 1359031655 570969 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: ?footnote: not found < 1359031656 413051 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? footnote 8 < 1359031657 768953 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't it fun reading through all the footnotes? < 1359031664 643467 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, it worked. < 1359031672 349656 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you know you could stick >file into the middle of a command line? < 1359031673 882626 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't. < 1359031694 78811 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? object < 1359031695 500270 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :An object is just something in a category. < 1359031705 355334 :Snowyowl!4f8d542d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.141.84.45 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? category < 1359031706 925590 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Categories are just categories. < 1359031717 20164 :Snowyowl!4f8d542d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.141.84.45 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? help < 1359031718 235053 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :help? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1359031721 983546 :Taneb!d917e6fc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.23.230.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Categories are categories in the category of categories < 1359031729 913538 :Taneb!d917e6fc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.23.230.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't think they are) < 1359031742 62504 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run for f in wisdom/*; do echo "$f:"; cat "$f"; echo ---; done | paste < 1359031750 595106 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1359031752 859778 :Taneb!d917e6fc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.23.230.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? friendship < 1359031762 64971 :Snowyowl!4f8d542d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.141.84.45 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run fortune < 1359031762 774683 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.2340 \ /hackenv/bin/paste: line 14: 286 File size limit exceededcat "$PASTE" > $HACKENV/paste/paste."$PASTENUM" < 1359031764 263880 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :friendship wisdom < 1359031765 198349 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've noticed several design suggestions in your code. < 1359031768 371322 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? monoid < 1359031769 849721 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monoids are just categories with a single object. < 1359031776 161713 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? egobot < 1359031777 420981 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :EgoBot is my arch-nemesis. < 1359031777 639187 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oops. < 1359031787 51106 :Snowyowl!4f8d542d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.141.84.45 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? singleton < 1359031788 235688 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :singleton? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1359031804 562127 :Taneb!d917e6fc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.23.230.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`lens < 1359031805 510864 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: lens: not found < 1359031810 169792 :Taneb!d917e6fc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.23.230.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? lens < 1359031811 356804 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :A lens is just a store comonad coalgebra. < 1359031814 342941 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? atriq < 1359031815 764331 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :atriq or two < 1359031819 331144 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ngevd < 1359031820 776172 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Im44nƢnt+D \ /B6‡zz[7V8i0V$#ŝ}NTc-R>6ѯ*Bq < 1359031826 718917 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo >>wisdom/d-modules " Taneb invented them." < 1359031827 635563 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​>>wisdom/d-modules " Taneb invented them." < 1359031836 837312 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run for f in wisdom/*; do [ "$f" == "ngevd" ] && continue; echo "$f:"; cat "$f"; echo ---; done | paste < 1359031837 430932 :Snowyowl!4f8d542d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.141.84.45 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought singletons were categories with a single object, and monoids were the little brothers of groups. < 1359031839 75683 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo >>wisdom/d-modules " Taneb invented them." < 1359031847 104929 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i suck at HackEgo) < 1359031853 872495 :Snowyowl!4f8d542d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.141.84.45 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls < 1359031856 63126 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.27157 \ /hackenv/bin/paste: line 14: 286 File size limit exceededcat "$PASTE" > $HACKENV/paste/paste."$PASTENUM" < 1359031857 682161 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1359031858 997898 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin \ canary \ dbg.out \ egobot.tar.xz \ etc \ factor \ factor-linux-x86-64-0.95.tar.gz \ foo \ foo.err \ foo.out \ ibin \ interps \ karma \ lib \ paste \ quines \ quotes \ quotese \ run \ share \ test \ wisdom \ zalgo.hs < 1359031864 973998 :Taneb!d917e6fc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.23.230.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? D-modules < 1359031865 643327 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? d-modules < 1359031866 351670 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :D-modules are just modules over the ring of differential operators. \ Taneb invented them. < 1359031867 62559 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :D-modules are just modules over the ring of differential operators. \ Taneb invented them. < 1359031876 181344 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION facepalm < 1359031878 572316 :Snowyowl!4f8d542d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.141.84.45 PRIVMSG #esoteric :run ls karma < 1359031884 988383 :Taneb!d917e6fc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.23.230.252 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1359031897 775892 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why didn't my thing work? < 1359031909 629737 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls wisdom/*gev* < 1359031910 737928 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/ngevd < 1359031916 411538 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`walk < 1359031917 169038 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: walk: not found < 1359031918 901023 :Snowyowl!4f8d542d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.141.84.45 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run karma < 1359031920 840287 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1359031923 429313 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Segmentation fault \ Segmentation fault \ lib/karma: 11: arithmetic expression: expecting primary: "-" \ has karma. < 1359031929 274116 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run for f in wisdom/*; do [ "$f" == "wisdom/ngevd" ] && continue; echo "$f:"; cat "$f"; echo ---; done | paste < 1359031948 783160 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.1339 \ cat: wisdom/quote formatting: Not a directory < 1359031949 512174 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1359031958 283226 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run help < 1359031959 237477 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :GNU bash, version 4.1.5(1)-release (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) \ These shell commands are defined internally. Type `help' to see this list. \ Type `help name' to find out more about the function `name'. \ Use `info bash' to find out more about the shell in general. \ Use `man -k' or `info' to find out more about commands not in this list. \ \ A star (* < 1359031980 678222 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls -ld wisdom/*matting* < 1359031981 864852 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :lrwxrwxrwx 1 5000 5000 16 Jan 12 20:07 wisdom/quote formatting -> wisdom/qdbformat < 1359031991 418517 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? quote formatting < 1359031992 839077 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :quote formatting? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1359032007 35671 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm wisdom/quote formatting < 1359032009 854959 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1359032064 990638 :nortti!~juhani@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? qdbformat < 1359032066 236449 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :qdbformat is: message; * nick action; two spaces between messages; all elisions marked with [...] other than irrelevant intervening messages; for messages separated by elision, one space on each side, not two < 1359032077 903082 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mv wisdom/ngevd . < 1359032080 623529 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1359032081 832621 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i s/dal/dahl/g wisdom/* < 1359032086 128876 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1359032089 282378 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mv ngevd wisdom/ < 1359032092 197897 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1359032138 883422 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? d-modules < 1359032140 81797 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :D-modules are just modules over the ring of differential operators. \ Taneb invented them. < 1359032155 188252 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's/$/ (see also: d-modules)/' wisdom/taneb < 1359032158 176228 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1359032161 293765 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? taneb < 1359032162 928551 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb is not elliott, no matter who you ask. He also isn't a rabbi although he has pretended in the past. (see also: d-modules) < 1359032184 227566 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask Taneb are you guilty of pretending to be a rabbi? < 1359032184 446218 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1359032367 13326 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? siberia < 1359032368 242535 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Siberia is the capital of Finland. It's where the Fields Medahl was first synthesised. < 1359032372 585377 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"casualties of peace" < 1359032857 190301 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? brainf**k < 1359032858 375338 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is no such thing as brainf**k. You may be thinking of brainfuck. < 1359032871 571470 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? brain < 1359032873 96102 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Brains are just receptacles for bricks. < 1359032876 96754 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? brick < 1359032877 512353 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Brick goes in brain. The statutory punishment for perpetrators of brainfuck derivatives. < 1359032881 590087 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-15-143.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1359032999 225903 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-15-143.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1359033146 763650 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls -l wisdom/ga* < 1359033147 957941 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-rw-r--r-- 1 5000 5000 72 Jan 24 12:54 wisdom/gaspacho \ -rw-r--r-- 1 5000 5000 72 Jan 24 12:54 wisdom/gazpacho < 1359033157 675662 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run diff wisdom/ga* < 1359033158 926264 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1359033193 475502 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tomato soup < 1359033194 684364 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :tomato soup? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1359033454 823736 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run stat wisdom/ga* < 1359033455 839749 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ File: `wisdom/gaspacho' \ Size: 72 Blocks: 8 IO Block: 1024 regular file \ Device: 10h/16d Inode: 751966 Links: 1 \ Access: (0644/-rw-r--r--) Uid: ( 5000/ UNKNOWN) Gid: ( 5000/ UNKNOWN) \ Access: 2013-01-24 12:54:45.000000000 +0000 \ Modify: 2013-01-24 12:54:44.000000000 +0000 \ Change: 2013-01-24 12:54:44.00000000 < 1359033474 29561 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run stat wisdom/gaz* < 1359033475 214580 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ File: `wisdom/gazpacho' \ Size: 72 Blocks: 8 IO Block: 1024 regular file \ Device: 10h/16d Inode: 751967 Links: 1 \ Access: (0644/-rw-r--r--) Uid: ( 5000/ UNKNOWN) Gid: ( 5000/ UNKNOWN) \ Access: 2013-01-24 12:54:45.000000000 +0000 \ Modify: 2013-01-24 12:54:44.000000000 +0000 \ Change: 2013-01-24 12:54:44.00000000 < 1359033519 21543 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run rm wisdom/gazpacho && ln -s gaspacho wisdom/gazpacho < 1359033522 182986 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1359033528 820372 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? gazpacho < 1359033530 10574 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :You like Gazpacho and I like Gaspacho. Let's call the whole thing off! < 1359033813 395498 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1359034017 278554 :Snowyowl!4f8d542d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.141.84.45 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in esolangs where programs can accept input, how do you usually send the source code to the interpreter? < 1359034036 722624 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :avian carrier < 1359034114 328702 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Snowyowl, through a file or with an IO separator. < 1359034138 372927 :Snowyowl!4f8d542d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.141.84.45 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1359034304 493431 :Snowyowl!4f8d542d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.141.84.45 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1359036248 554461 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1359036385 372188 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1359036642 344312 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1359038381 703112 :Tod-Autojoined!~Tod@166-70-93-209.ip.xmission.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1359038408 679211 :TodPunk!~Tod@166-70-93-209.ip.xmission.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1359039451 859440 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-242.rentec.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1359039759 607828 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1359041962 681755 :Tod-Autojoined!~Tod@166-70-93-209.ip.xmission.com NICK :TodPunk < 1359042415 520172 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1359042917 530710 :TodPunk!~Tod@166-70-93-209.ip.xmission.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1359043149 175368 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1359044126 236476 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1359044456 187449 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, I am guilty of playing a rabbi on stage < 1359044467 350764 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then going to the pub in full costume and make-up as a rabbi < 1359044528 894604 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1359044829 482570 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you haven't seen it already < 1359044831 524214 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`list < 1359044832 994350 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo alot < 1359044847 274190 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The christmas update? < 1359045097 695384 :Strigoides!~Strigoide@60-234-213-126.bitstream.orcon.net.nz JOIN :#esoteric < 1359045105 461942 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1359045345 328282 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It just occurred to me: the last time we saw that tree, Jade was celebrating the April 13th. Maybe this means we are finally on April 13th, 2012." < 1359047577 506673 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? `learn < 1359047578 639610 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`learn is `learn < 1359047738 724406 :david_werecat!~david_wer@205.211.54.170 JOIN :#esoteric < 1359047819 828108 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? david_werecat < 1359047821 223176 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :david_werecat? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1359048037 52775 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1359048062 278228 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1359048705 676663 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1359049022 177090 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1359049788 730558 :TodPunk!~Tod@166-70-93-209.ip.xmission.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1359049896 703076 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1359049937 289993 :Snowyowl!5c6b415a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.107.65.90 JOIN :#esoteric < 1359049942 638405 :sebbu!~sebbu@83.194.43.18 JOIN :#esoteric < 1359049942 879486 :sebbu!~sebbu@83.194.43.18 QUIT :Changing host < 1359049943 98117 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1359050026 288968 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Today I found out I have a knack for vectors < 1359050041 184359 :Snowyowl!5c6b415a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.107.65.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in what way? < 1359050130 444514 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vectors aren't hard < 1359050217 424695 :Snowyowl!5c6b415a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.107.65.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are we talking about maths vectors or computer science vectors? < 1359050248 95173 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The former < 1359050261 778630 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A knack relative to those around me < 1359050309 327441 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: For example? < 1359050338 143883 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :disease vectors < 1359050404 216927 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Got a couple of sheets of exercises to do, I was the only person to finish < 1359050446 436259 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found most of them really obvious and everyone else was struggling < 1359050466 654462 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it's because I already knew how vectors worked? < 1359050656 378700 :Snowyowl!5c6b415a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.107.65.90 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1359050831 728286 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1359050884 386764 :Snowyowl!5c6b415a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.107.65.90 JOIN :#esoteric < 1359051252 728592 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Snowyowl, cs vectors are just a subset of maths vectors < 1359051258 35208 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :er wait, no they aren't < 1359051262 484983 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no scalar multiplication < 1359051291 193658 :Snowyowl!5c6b415a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.107.65.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking specifically of c++ vectors, which are the only ones I know about < 1359051302 822407 :Snowyowl!5c6b415a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.107.65.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're like arrays but they resize themselves < 1359051420 686362 :Snowyowl!5c6b415a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.107.65.90 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1359051469 210793 :Snowyowl!5c6b415a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.107.65.90 JOIN :#esoteric < 1359052204 689954 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :cs vectors have pretty much nothing to do with math vectors < 1359052228 199829 :Snowyowl!5c6b415a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.107.65.90 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1359052234 465266 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :as Phantom_Hoover mentioned, they have no linear structure (which is essentially all vector spaces are) < 1359052249 282765 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: imo you are a linear structure <:-) < 1359052257 962155 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i realised about 30 seconds later that you can't even add them < 1359052260 634083 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid cs people < 1359052281 871507 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :but, vector spaces can be concretely represented as tuples containing elements of the underlying field. this is essentially c++ vectors over a type, but with fixed size. < 1359052309 862429 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1359052317 47468 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you represent all vector spaces that way < 1359052342 383160 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a sense, yes, but the fixed size might not be finite < 1359052348 898023 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :every vector space has a basis < 1359052359 567847 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not necessarily a finite one < 1359052381 894543 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does it have a basis? zornify. < 1359052394 787660 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right, duh < 1359052446 41340 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :more precisely, zornify sets of linearly independent sets. every chain has an upper bound since a union of such sets is still linearly independent. and a maximal linearly independent set is actually a basis < 1359052461 709454 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise it doesn't span some element, which means that element can be added to the set etc < 1359052467 473439 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(etc meaning qed) < 1359052481 847346 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1359052491 967318 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :zornify linearly independent sets. or something. < 1359052563 792692 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: what sort of problems? < 1359052835 76589 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably dot and cross products and/or parametrised planes in 3d < 1359052849 827275 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was all vectors were at advanced higher < 1359053249 932518 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.175 JOIN :#esoteric < 1359053498 811202 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, vector addition and scalar multiplication < 1359053502 65923 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty easy stuff < 1359053531 145702 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :so like you're given two vectors and you have to add them? < 1359053578 687990 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :how old is Taneb < 1359053587 880885 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am 18 < 1359053609 771285 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh okay < 1359053629 344644 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont understand why they are still teaching arithmetic at that age < 1359053669 475856 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, slightly more applied than that. "OACB forms a parallelogram. If O -> A is 3i + j and O -> B is 2i - 2j; what is O -> C < 1359053670 689042 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :" < 1359053709 467022 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is that more applied than summing two vectors? < 1359053720 56231 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's applied to geometry < 1359053725 457091 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh okay. < 1359053728 926555 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As in, it puts it in a question < 1359053730 527482 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose you're right < 1359053737 995737 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not "What is 3i + j + 2i - 2j" < 1359053751 439914 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net NICK :Taneb|Hovercraft < 1359053757 863920 :Taneb|Hovercraft!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't use this one very often, do I < 1359053758 83171 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb|Hovercraft: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1359053763 244820 :Taneb|Hovercraft!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1359053763 659583 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia said 4m 21d 3h 30m 33s ago: hi < 1359053815 222549 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1359053819 843101 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :4m ago < 1359053823 118414 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should try NetHack 4 at some point < 1359053823 934277 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice jorb < 1359054211 492837 :Taneb|Hovercraft!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net NICK :Taneb < 1359054356 857413 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, don't you even do vector products < 1359054370 172493 :augur_!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1359054517 139158 :Snowyowl!5c6b415a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.107.65.90 JOIN :#esoteric < 1359054578 203420 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, not yet < 1359054579 106816 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who knows < 1359054585 775339 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haven't checked the syllabus < 1359054671 918987 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently you do at some point < 1359055718 461657 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had this game as a little kid (iirc) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdVPp6HccTY < 1359056253 144104 :david_werecat!~david_wer@205.211.54.170 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1359056260 768325 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1359056403 266214 :Snowyowl!5c6b415a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.107.65.90 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1359056559 89619 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1359056565 507254 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1359056736 811826 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :lo < 1359056841 364961 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: what is the hausdorff paradox. < 1359056856 673440 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hell owelcome to #esoteirc and america < 1359056861 676731 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :we,r'e happy < 1359056870 731192 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if slightly mispled < 1359057013 674360 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ais523 because it's intuitively not a paradox, you just take alternating real numbers and split the spheres apart that way <-- well the fun comes when you realize you _cannot_ do banach-tarski with just a disk instead of a sphere... < 1359057013 915345 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1359057208 831188 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: q: whats an naagram of banach-tarski < 1359057216 856005 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: a: iksach-tarban < 1359057250 895723 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? banach-tarski < 1359057252 179635 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​"Banach-Tarski" is an anagram of "Banach-Tarski Banach-Tarski". < 1359057258 161361 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :my joesk funnier imo < 1359057265 994444 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1359057458 170452 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1359057710 613004 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1359057763 280853 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :12:48:41: Categories are categories in the category of categories < 1359057763 527770 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :12:48:49: (I don't think they are) < 1359057776 831574 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :just change the second "categories" to "objects" hth < 1359057801 122341 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Categories < 1359057802 434105 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Categories? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1359057806 902209 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? category < 1359057807 414114 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Categories are just categories. < 1359057848 863871 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? d-modules < 1359057850 335115 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :D-modules are just modules over the ring of differential operators. \ Taneb invented them. < 1359057871 292486 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? coapple < 1359057872 503077 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :coapple? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1359057877 970235 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? co < 1359057879 16636 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :co? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1359057881 805601 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? complement < 1359057883 271919 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :complement? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1359057979 28158 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? d-modules < 1359057980 236558 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :D-modules are just modules over the ring of differential operators. \ Taneb invented them. < 1359058001 319807 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? endofunctor < 1359058002 694795 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Endofunctors are just endomorphisms in the category of categories. < 1359058063 747128 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run fmt wisdom/d-modules >wisdom/d-module; rm wisdom/d-modules < 1359058067 446913 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1359058071 650935 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? d-module < 1359058073 115556 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :D-modules are just modules over the ring of differential operators. \ Taneb invented them. < 1359058080 49532 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat. < 1359058104 427150 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i '%j' wisdom/d-module < 1359058105 633361 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: -e expression #1, char 1: unknown command: `%' < 1359058115 184787 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 'j' wisdom/d-module < 1359058116 222899 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: -e expression #1, char 1: unknown command: `j' < 1359058139 723785 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :grmble probably vim-only < 1359058152 417090 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are we having a fun oerjan < 1359058304 800694 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run yes & < 1359058305 823491 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y < 1359058331 544192 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i '1s/\n//' wisdom/d-module < 1359058332 509010 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1359058336 641686 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? d-module < 1359058337 851392 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :D-modules are just modules over the ring of differential operators. \ Taneb invented them. < 1359058631 223501 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run od -x wisdom/d-module < 1359058632 591700 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :0000000 2d44 6f6d 7564 656c 2073 7261 2065 756a \ 0000020 7473 6d20 646f 6c75 7365 6f20 6576 2072 \ 0000040 6874 2065 6972 676e 6f20 2066 6964 6666 \ 0000060 7265 6e65 6974 6c61 6f20 6570 6172 6f74 \ 0000100 7372 0a2e 5420 6e61 6265 6920 766e 6e65 \ 0000120 6574 2064 6874 6d65 0a2e \ 0000132 < 1359058648 750592 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not as helpful as I was hoping X-D < 1359058655 328430 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm... < 1359058677 242948 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat wisdom/d-module | sed 's/\\/LOL/g' < 1359058678 653151 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :D-modules are just modules over the ring of differential operators. \ Taneb invented them. < 1359058681 635207 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope, it's a newline. < 1359058692 101006 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i -e '1N' -e 's/\n//' wisdom/d-module < 1359058695 133758 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1359058699 124589 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? d-module < 1359058700 594737 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :D-modules are just modules over the ring of differential operators. Taneb invented them. < 1359058712 687409 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION cackles maniackally < 1359058724 241656 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run od -Ax -tx1z -v wisdom/d-module < 1359058725 400081 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :000000 44 2d 6d 6f 64 75 6c 65 73 20 61 72 65 20 6a 75 >D-modules are ju< \ 000010 73 74 20 6d 6f 64 75 6c 65 73 20 6f 76 65 72 20 >st modules over < \ 000020 74 68 65 20 72 69 6e 67 20 6f 66 20 64 69 66 66 >the ring of diff< \ 000030 65 72 65 6e 74 69 61 6c 20 6f 70 65 72 61 74 6f >erential operato< \ 000040 72 73 2e 20 54 61 6e 65 62 20 69 6e < 1359058728 653478 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ln -s category wisdom/categories < 1359058731 549978 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1359058736 995886 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? categories < 1359058738 375536 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Categories are just categories. < 1359058756 623563 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run fg < 1359058757 658744 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: line 0: fg: no job control < 1359058762 332865 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damn < 1359058782 573579 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sleep 5 & ; echo In fact, it will always wait for all processes to terminate. < 1359058783 530909 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: -c: line 0: syntax error near unexpected token `;' \ bash: -c: line 0: `sleep 5 & ; echo In fact, it will always wait for all processes to terminate.' < 1359058786 376807 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Errrrr < 1359058791 526424 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you know what I mean X-D < 1359058799 452300 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls wisdom < 1359058800 562422 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`? \ ? \ ⌨ \ ☃ \ 🐐 \ ais523 \ america \ atriq \ augur \ banach-tarski \ bike \ boily \ bonvenon \ brain \ brainf**k \ brainfuck \ brick \ burma \ c \ cakeprophet \ california \ categories \ category \ coffee \ comonad \ coppro \ d-module \ egobot \ ehird \ elliott \ endofunctor \ endomorphism \ england \ esoteric \ europe \ everyone \ fin < 1359058804 466686 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1359058811 580340 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wut? < 1359058813 659559 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? `? < 1359058814 142736 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :See `? for further details. < 1359058855 845999 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :backtick question question keyboard snowman. < 1359058863 411181 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? 🐐 < 1359058864 840132 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​🐐 <(Unicode goat laments your inability to render Unicode goat.) < 1359058867 523793 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`⌨ < 1359058868 721520 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: ⌨: not found < 1359058892 615891 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run (echo test; echo ho) | sed '1N' < 1359058894 418857 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :test \ ho < 1359058929 262348 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok it actually preserves the newline then < 1359059070 503967 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls wisdom/*s < 1359059071 742274 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/categories \ wisdom/finns \ wisdom/lens \ wisdom/maths \ wisdom/monads \ wisdom/oceans \ wisdom/the us \ wisdom/united states < 1359059087 435801 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? monad < 1359059088 991152 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monads are just monoids in the category of endofunctors. < 1359059092 299814 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? monads < 1359059093 989739 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monads are just monoids in the category of endofunctors. < 1359059120 538208 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls -l wisdom/monad* < 1359059121 802558 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-rw-r--r-- 1 5000 5000 57 Jan 24 12:54 wisdom/monad \ -rw-r--r-- 1 5000 5000 57 Jan 24 12:54 wisdom/monads \ -rw-r--r-- 1 5000 5000 261 Jan 24 12:54 wisdom/monad tutorial < 1359059136 190845 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? monad tutorial < 1359059137 254040 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Think of a monad as a spacesuite full of nuclear waste in the ocean next to a container of apples. now, you can't put oranges in the space suite or the nucelar waste falls in the ocean, but the apples are carried around anyway, and you just take what you need. < 1359059140 85468 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls -l wisdom/categor* < 1359059141 426041 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :lrwxrwxrwx 1 5000 5000 8 Jan 24 20:18 wisdom/categories -> category \ -rw-r--r-- 1 5000 5000 32 Jan 24 12:54 wisdom/category < 1359059148 538890 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :spacesuite < 1359059160 699571 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a suite in space < 1359059166 872320 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run rm wisdom/monads; ln -s wisdom/monad wisdom/monads < 1359059167 597029 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm wisdom/monad tutorial < 1359059170 223162 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1359059171 671344 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1359059404 318911 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm < 1359059406 386578 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? monads < 1359059407 593134 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :monads? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1359059410 626522 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? monad < 1359059412 113589 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monads are just monoids in the category of endofunctors. < 1359059416 115646 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :I SEE < 1359059445 517922 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.114.138.192 JOIN :#esoteric < 1359059456 179927 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1359059458 727445 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1359059463 440769 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? monads < 1359059464 521677 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monads are just monoids in the category of endofunctors. < 1359059474 935940 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/? < 1359059475 955782 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ topic=$(echo "$1" | tr A-Z a-z | sed "s/ *$//") \ [ -e "wisdom/$topic" ] || { echo "$1? ¯\(°_o)/¯"; exit 1; } \ cat "wisdom/$topic" < 1359059502 384198 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm wisdom/categories < 1359059505 163449 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1359059511 687761 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? category < 1359059512 693187 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Categories are just categories. < 1359059535 684810 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.114.138.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has anyone else entered Al Zimmermann's programming contest? < 1359059604 539430 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls wisdom/* < 1359059605 596424 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/`? \ wisdom/? \ wisdom/☃ \ wisdom/⌨ \ wisdom/🐐 \ wisdom/ais523 \ wisdom/america \ wisdom/atriq \ wisdom/augur \ wisdom/banach-tarski \ wisdom/bike \ wisdom/boily \ wisdom/bonvenon \ wisdom/brain \ wisdom/brainf**k \ wisdom/brainfuck \ wisdom/brick \ wisdom/burma \ wisdom/c \ wisdom/cakeprophet \ wisdom/california \ wisdom/category \ w < 1359059621 39489 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ⌨ < 1359059622 111998 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :You are probably using one right now! < 1359059626 990218 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaah. I knew it! < 1359059653 658073 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1359059657 752665 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? c < 1359059659 193656 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :C is the language of��V�>WIד�.��Segmentation fault < 1359059720 665260 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i liked the category one that was about endomorphisms :( < 1359059850 57369 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? endomorphism < 1359059851 471826 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Endomorphisms are just morphisms which compose with themselves. < 1359059880 97000 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: which one? < 1359059905 933951 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember, it was "categories are just..." format < 1359059970 587847 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote analogies.are < 1359059970 845365 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :dmwit says: analogies are endofunctors in the category of bad explanations < 1359060028 411582 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: are you sure it started with categories < 1359060073 592392 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1359060206 482891 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? monad < 1359060207 892120 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monads are just monoids in the category of endofunctors. < 1359060242 644819 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? endofunctor < 1359060244 181003 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Endofunctors are just endomorphisms in the category of categories. < 1359060251 109638 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-125.elisa.ee QUIT :Quit: Left < 1359060251 590706 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that's what I was thinking of. < 1359060255 611665 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mystery Solved < 1359060469 860486 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls wisdom | grep -v ngevd | xargs grep -H dahl < 1359060471 455433 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :grep: `?: No such file or directory \ grep: ?: No such file or directory \ grep: ⌨: No such file or directory \ grep: ☃: No such file or directory \ grep: 🐐: No such file or directory \ grep: ais523: No such file or directory \ grep: america: No such file or directory \ grep: atriq: No such file or directory \ grep: augur: No such file or di < 1359060529 790861 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cd wisdom; ls | grep -v ngevd | xargs grep -H dahl < 1359060531 377831 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bonvenon:bonvenon Bonvenon al la internacia centro por la desegno kaj ellaso de esoteraj programlingvoj! Por pli da informado, vizitu la Viki-o: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (Por la alia speco de esotero, iru al #esoteric sur irc.dahl.net.) \ esoteric:This channel is about programming -- for the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc. < 1359060576 927860 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cd wisdom; ls | grep -v ngevd | xargs grep -l dahl < 1359060578 696408 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bonvenon \ esoteric \ grep: footnote: No such file or directory \ grep: 8: No such file or directory \ grep: misspellings: No such file or directory \ grep: of: No such file or directory \ grep: croissant: No such file or directory \ grep: natural: No such file or directory \ grep: transformation: No such file or directory \ grep: shachaf: No such < 1359060599 642589 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1359060665 472016 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cd wisdom; find -print0 | grep -v ngevd | xargs -0 grep -l dahl < 1359060666 862913 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1359060682 765107 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...oh wait. < 1359060780 745134 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cd wisdom; mv ngevd ..; grep -l dahl *; mv ../ngevd . < 1359060782 571655 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bonvenon \ esoteric \ siberia \ välkommen \ welcome \ wercome < 1359060791 320304 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? bonvenon < 1359060792 353734 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bonvenon Bonvenon al la internacia centro por la desegno kaj ellaso de esoteraj programlingvoj! Por pli da informado, vizitu la Viki-o: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (Por la alia speco de esotero, iru al #esoteric sur irc.dahl.net.) < 1359060798 331285 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? esoteric < 1359060800 207443 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :This channel is about programming -- for the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dahl.net. < 1359060805 73112 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? siberia < 1359060806 554715 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Siberia is the capital of Finland. It's where the Fields Medahl was first synthesised. < 1359060861 565325 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? välkommen < 1359060862 779970 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hej och välkommen till den internationella knutpunkten för design och distribution av esoteriska programspråk! För mer information, se vår wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (För den andra sortens esoterism, pröva #esoteric på irc.dahl.net.) < 1359060868 291603 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? welcome < 1359060869 753729 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dahl.net.) < 1359060873 410227 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wercome < 1359060874 907880 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​エソテリックプログラミング言語のディザインとデプロイメントの国際な場所へようこそ!詳しく、ウィキを見て: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page。(他のエソテリック、irc.dahl.netの#esotericへ) < 1359060883 400093 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D < 1359060935 111871 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cd wisdom; mv ngevd ..; sed -i 's/dahl/dal/g' * ; mv ../ngevd . < 1359060939 206180 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1359061011 710439 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :oerjan > 1359061012 107899 NAMES :#esoteric < 1359061025 516311 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24.212.152.46 JOIN :#esoteric < 1359061027 585725 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric +b :*!*shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf > 1359061027 597457 NAMES :#esoteric < 1359061027 805091 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no KICK #esoteric shachaf :WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU < 1359061034 852661 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -o :oerjan > 1359061034 876223 NAMES :#esoteric < 1359061042 564087 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :k < 1359061054 154089 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :… < 1359061093 803870 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the one hand, the japanese translation is very good, but then ørjan banned shachaf with extreme prejudice. < 1359061145 240676 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um... wut < 1359061145 540327 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did oerjan just kickban shachaf < 1359061172 64446 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : `run sed -i s/dal/dahl/g wisdom/* < 1359061205 732579 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D < 1359061273 727917 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1359061281 838253 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That being said, fix it properly: < 1359061291 356279 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? gaspacho < 1359061292 370166 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :You like Gazpacho and I like Gaspacho. Let's call the whole thing off! < 1359061295 115085 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert 1713 < 1359061295 376690 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the hell just happened < 1359061297 443414 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1359061301 406579 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? gazpacho < 1359061302 824246 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :You like Gazpacho and I like Gaspacho. Let's call the whole thing off! < 1359061309 872197 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run hg diff -r1703:1702 | patch -p1 < 1359061315 545317 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :patching file wisdom/bonvenon \ patching file wisdom/esoteric \ patching file wisdom/monad \ patching file wisdom/siberia \ patching file wisdom/välkommen \ patching file wisdom/welcome \ patching file wisdom/wercome < 1359061326 708597 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan < 1359061331 30768 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ARGH < 1359061332 563489 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why did you kickban shachaf < 1359061357 456906 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: btw that's the same as hg diff -c 1703 < 1359061358 181919 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :aiui < 1359061370 135518 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Herpdurp < 1359061378 335126 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? footnote 8 < 1359061380 72166 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't it fun reading through all the footnotes? < 1359061385 983100 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone understand this entry < 1359061392 369616 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? footnote 42 < 1359061393 339783 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :footnote 42? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1359061397 958822 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or what d-modules are < 1359061405 700634 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? d-modules < 1359061407 144356 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :d-modules? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1359061416 429812 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: btw it is annoying that the revision numbers are not shown on the main log listing < 1359061418 616932 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i can't exactly explain now < 1359061426 24457 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like SOMEONE removed an entry by accident < 1359061430 47790 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn D-Modules are simply modules in the ring of differential operators. Taneb invented them. < 1359061433 78458 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? d-module < 1359061433 887655 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1359061434 852409 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :D-modules are just modules over the ring of differential operators. Taneb invented them. < 1359061439 477089 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yeah, 'struth... happen to know of an hgweb style that shows them? < 1359061448 283591 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm wisdom/d-modules < 1359061451 63062 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1359061455 44556 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im idiot < 1359061458 652180 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, well there you go < 1359061477 620438 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn `learn learns about `learn. < 1359061480 779124 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1359061487 229419 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :I REMOVED IT BECAUSE LOOKUPS SHOULD BE SINGULAR FIRST, ALSO SOFT LINKS DON'T WORK IN WISDOM < 1359061490 239627 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? `learn < 1359061491 635233 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`learn learns about `learn. < 1359061499 963349 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh. oh well... < 1359061503 532854 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: aum < 1359061506 46558 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run rm wisdom/`learn < 1359061507 50055 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: -c: line 0: unexpected EOF while looking for matching ``' \ bash: -c: line 1: syntax error: unexpected end of file < 1359061513 461478 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run rm wisdom/\`learn < 1359061516 674133 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1359061524 963633 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls -l wisdom/ngevd < 1359061525 965213 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :lrwxrwxrwx 1 5000 5000 12 Jan 24 12:54 wisdom/ngevd -> /dev/urandom < 1359061561 212756 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls bin | grep '^qu' < 1359061562 205392 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :quachaf \ queegan \ quoerjan \ quørjan \ quote \ quotes < 1359061570 548955 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls bin | grep 'rjan$' < 1359061572 48487 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :quoerjan \ quørjan \ translatetoerjan \ zalgoerjan < 1359061630 224655 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? zalgoerjan < 1359061631 470326 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :zalgoerjan? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1359061640 907862 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`zalgoerjan < 1359061642 429011 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :o̐eͨȓj̱a̽n̯ ͐ < 1359061649 607782 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...ok i don't know why ngevd works when the others didn't. < 1359061658 170633 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? gazpacho < 1359061660 109790 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :You like Gazpacho and I like Gaspacho. Let's call the whole thing off! < 1359061662 779826 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ngevd < 1359061664 350909 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​$8544LoۮOƴ?H\rb+E/lq:)~%0] '+.Puy!TIӫ \ 6/ȱtO5h \ *YgƿRZj54O?Нq/FB8fr(.#mh-,jOm *ωb̗lÖS_d 2tQ1Yu^|-!F_s9fp"lHji!\F*t%:@62n%i2 ܵ㛫lŅ.kT"e8^#֡4HJ6R{јq%Zh < 1359061668 513165 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...why did that work. < 1359061672 158786 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :EEK < 1359061678 738769 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ngevd entry is the best thing in the universe imo < 1359061680 848962 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Since when do the others not? category worked fine. < 1359061717 226692 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ngevd transcends links. < 1359061727 703559 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1359061737 693791 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't ngevd a hardlink < 1359061748 243385 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls -l wisdom/ngevd < 1359061749 227235 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: invalid option -- ' ' \ Try `ls --help' for more information. < 1359061756 552638 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`runls -l wisdom/ngevd < 1359061757 515992 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: runls: not found < 1359061759 488337 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls -l wisdom/ngevd < 1359061760 722676 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :lrwxrwxrwx 1 5000 5000 12 Jan 24 12:54 wisdom/ngevd -> /dev/urandom < 1359061767 148935 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :this window is the worst window < 1359061896 144952 :davidwerecat!~david_wer@24-212-152-46.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1359061896 387678 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24.212.152.46 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1359061907 279378 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: while you're at it find a style that allows wikipedia style single change undo. i made a mess and now you've already changed things. :( which is the same reason i got angry at shachaf btw :P < 1359061947 842375 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Single change undo: `run hg diff -c | patch -p1 < 1359061962 517604 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: ITYM patch -R < 1359061965 178672 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Err, patch -R -c1 for -c < 1359061967 671616 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1359061969 706867 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hyuk < 1359061978 732162 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :patch -R -p1 >_< < 1359061980 181359 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "#!/bin/sh" >bin/undo; echo 'hg diff -c "$@" | patch -R' >>bin/undo; chmod +x bin/undo < 1359061980 903881 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :You get what I mean. < 1359061984 106669 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1359061985 262598 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the form I've used in the patch < 1359061987 247589 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1359061987 971572 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the past < 1359062003 238084 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty sure it needs -p1... < 1359062034 832055 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`undo 1721 < 1359062036 482704 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The next patch, when reversed, would delete the file undo, \ which does not exist! Ignore -R? [n] \ Apply anyway? [n] \ Skipping patch. \ 1 out of 1 hunk ignored < 1359062040 753696 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1359062061 480567 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run hg diff -c 1721 < 1359062063 222312 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :diff -r 63d5921a3c8a -r ab80805a8878 bin/undo \ --- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 \ +++ b/bin/undo Thu Jan 24 21:13:03 2013 +0000 \ @@ -0,0 +1,2 @@ \ +#!/bin/sh \ +hg diff -c "$@" | patch -R < 1359062067 690884 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/log?revcount=100&rev=-R < 1359062072 969159 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it is -p0 >_> < 1359062075 260025 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this shows that I've used | patch -R in the past < 1359062081 185380 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? welcome < 1359062082 663885 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1359062083 641983 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I'm imagining things. < 1359062277 246071 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :oerjan > 1359062277 284126 NAMES :#esoteric < 1359062292 144723 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -b :*!*shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf > 1359062292 167273 NAMES :#esoteric < 1359062301 465078 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -o :oerjan > 1359062301 487605 NAMES :#esoteric < 1359063093 270487 :Snowyowl!5c6b415a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.107.65.90 JOIN :#esoteric < 1359063532 808610 :WeThePeople!~WeThePeop@unaffiliated/wethepeople JOIN :#esoteric < 1359064103 151166 :Snowyowl!5c6b415a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.107.65.90 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1359064519 364709 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do GCC or LLVM do any calculation such as strlen and strdup and so on at compile time if possible? < 1359064574 989429 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :strdup at compile time? < 1359064695 406205 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example if there is a code only running once, which calls strdup("Hello, World!") which is also known not to be realloc or free, it might be able to place it in a separate buffer if the target ABI supports that, and the optimization settings are correct for that. < 1359064719 195503 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But even if it is dynamic and runs more than once, the string length can be optimized if it is faster to copy the memory knowing the length ahead of time. < 1359064750 762004 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does the new C standards have a "memdup" command, or only "strdup"? < 1359064764 407970 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :memcpy? < 1359064830 928808 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean that memdup will be like malloc and memcpy together. < 1359064947 389480 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or even such optimization that might be done, such as printf("%u",x%10) might be able to be changed to putchar((x%10)+'0') < 1359064956 571112 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf JOIN :#esoteric < 1359064973 701379 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :strdup with you casting the memory to char* isn't ok? < 1359064991 473066 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it might have nulls < 1359064992 510989 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oops? < 1359064996 445293 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hichaf < 1359065008 687885 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Yes, that is what I mean. < 1359065019 283357 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, memdup seems easy to write, at least < 1359065019 502355 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: Poulet! < 1359065034 216112 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I do think it is easy to write. < 1359065058 369486 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess oerjan is really not a fan of Roald Dahl? < 1359065079 830238 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :printf for constant strings seems like it'd be a profitable optimization, not to mention helps safety? < 1359065096 595871 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf what did you do < 1359065113 623070 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What oerjan said. < 1359065133 968987 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan what did you say < 1359065143 532929 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :20:59:32: `run sed -i s/dal/dahl/g wisdom/* < 1359065153 397948 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something mentioned on esolang wiki is optimizing to save energy. Does any compiler do this? Is it even possible in any cases? < 1359065180 259004 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, physical power? < 1359065187 220992 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1359065198 697438 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe for embedded systems or something, i doubt anyone cares for desktops < 1359065243 653583 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is "We might call you in a few months if an entry-level Python position becomes available" the same as "Fuck you, you'll never hear from us again?" < 1359065431 110808 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : I guess oerjan is really not a fan of Roald Dahl? <-- not when he's sabotaging urls, no. < 1359065471 122943 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a domain name, not a URL. < 1359065486 311058 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, OK? URLs are off-limits? < 1359065593 791333 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :THAT WAS NOT MEANT TO BE AN EXHAUSTIVE RULE < 1359065648 333858 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought the whole point of HackEgo was chaos etc. or something. < 1359065801 376773 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :from chaos one passes to enlightened dictatorship. haven't you read your hobbes? < 1359065807 297626 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(me neither) < 1359066099 467278 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welcome bachaf < 1359066384 134126 :WeThePeople!~WeThePeop@unaffiliated/wethepeople QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1359066659 999414 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: omg you finally banned shachaf < 1359066664 694601 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, why is he back? < 1359066707 205941 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-( < 1359066726 772024 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :or perhaps thay should be "finally shachaf" ... one does not simply the verb, after all < 1359066746 757916 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1359066944 579485 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Very little has been said about this... " is not an appropriate start of the thousandth repost of the runner-does-nice-thing picture and story < 1359067009 341474 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in a related story: whenever someone has their faith in humanity restored, mine is torn asunder yet again) < 1359067401 978800 :WeThePeople!~WeThePeop@unaffiliated/wethepeople JOIN :#esoteric < 1359067525 494831 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@fluttershy.pl QUIT :Excess Flood < 1359067677 320824 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@fluttershy.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1359067810 416753 :WeThePeople!~WeThePeop@unaffiliated/wethepeople QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1359068153 358828 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1359068319 100429 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION tries to figure out how serious oerjan was. < 1359068382 127267 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think what happens when I switch languages is something like < 1359068386 746411 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why the fuc < 1359068387 952480 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was very annoyed. < 1359068388 674485 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :k < 1359068394 124440 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are my socks < 1359068397 687695 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the wastebin < 1359068446 260079 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I'm obviously looking for Smalltalk-like languages, why not just go Smalltalk.... ... I'm obviously looking for a language that does W, why not G which is known for W < 1359068449 594176 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lather, rinse, repeat < 1359068463 957638 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Either that or I avoid looking at G because of Q < 1359068484 87594 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: do they have holes? < 1359068489 974659 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1359068493 815960 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where Q may be a bad stereotype of the reason I last stoppe d at G, which was actually reason R < 1359068500 556125 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :pidgeons have holes, socks don't? < 1359068503 363336 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I am an alphabet. < 1359068519 448454 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo cut down on your variables < 1359068531 960832 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :single-letter variable names are a blight sgeo < 1359068553 891312 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION does a jig < 1359068554 130089 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote why the fuc i was very annoyed. k are my socks in the wastebin < 1359068557 200420 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :935) why the fuc i was very annoyed. k are my socks in the wastebin < 1359068568 306292 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? qdbformat < 1359068569 641428 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :qdbformat is: message; * nick action; two spaces between messages; all elisions marked with [...] other than irrelevant intervening messages; for messages separated by elision, one space on each side, not two < 1359068573 683225 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: wat. < 1359068590 949616 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, I am in love with Phantom_Hoover's inadvertant double meaning of k < 1359068610 920125 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this is where Sgeo meticulously reformats according to The Rules, then someone decides the quote isn't funny in the first place) < 1359068623 680243 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: So... No changing `welcome? < 1359068628 600721 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1359068629 604143 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : single-letter variable names are a blight sgeo < 1359068630 848693 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1359068644 762203 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: k < 1359068645 469230 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :computer scientist pansy < 1359068656 490285 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote why the fuc i was very annoyed. k are my socks in the wastebin < 1359068659 822625 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :935) why the fuc i was very annoyed. k are my socks in the wastebin < 1359068663 563547 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like that, or did I screw up? < 1359068685 168600 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: A BLIGHT < 1359068688 628687 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean seriously, why would you ever want more than 100 variables < 1359068704 724299 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wastebin looked like it was cut off for a second < 1359068705 727251 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh don't remind me of TI programming < 1359068726 856402 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i suggest sitting very still and not moving. then _maybe_ you won't annoy me. < 1359068729 731567 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, ok, next time I shall use foo bar baz foobar foobaz barfoo barbaz etc < 1359068741 214581 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION just blew it, didn't he. < 1359068768 996368 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Should I leave? < 1359068774 55416 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't leave :( < 1359068774 289999 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: damn straight < 1359068821 908567 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION concurs with everyone whom it is possible to concur with even if said concurring implies holding contradictory beliefs about whether shachaf should leave < 1359068830 615461 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i wasn't being entirely sreiosu in the two pervious sentiwtf is with my typing < 1359068832 275454 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :DIATHELIST < 1359068836 842281 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superficiality < 1359068841 71114 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :great npov there wikipedia < 1359068847 436816 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow i can't spell that word reliably < 1359068849 580741 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was trying to scroll back to a shachaf ban motivation but found "* oerjan cackles maniackally" < 1359068868 398550 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf probably literally asked for it though < 1359068887 338094 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: nuh uh it's cited. "21stC urban parlance speaks of 'a barometer of shallowness...the scale of superficiality'.[3]" < 1359068904 58751 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: No, I stopped with the asking-to-be-kicked thing a while ago. < 1359068911 506116 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cited to urban dictionary < 1359068914 990249 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe the effect was just delayed < 1359068918 256157 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1359068954 800986 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, if this was only the implementation of the first of those request, you may yet be kicked many times < 1359068958 884844 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: that was when i found sed's N command < 1359068959 631072 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: The motivation was: `run sed -i s/dal/dahl/g wisdom/* < 1359068992 946 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How many uses of dal are there in wisdom? < 1359069009 758174 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, yes, the cackling is a common side effect of sed < 1359069044 332610 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? siberia < 1359069045 516889 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Siberia is the capital of Finland. It's where the Fields Medal was first synthesised. < 1359069047 412878 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's one. < 1359069048 918423 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: all the welcome texts use it due to mentioning dalnet < 1359069082 641828 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: the siberia one and the welcomes < 1359069097 558217 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :*dahlnet < 1359069100 515279 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, wasn't aware that `welcome used wisdom behind the scenes < 1359069116 279016 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/wisdom < 1359069117 481816 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: bin/wisdom: No such file or directory < 1359069126 24088 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/welcome < 1359069127 245588 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/usr/bin/perl -w \ if (defined($_=shift)) { s/ *$//; s/ +/ @ /g; exec "bin/@", $_ . " ? welcome"; } else { exec "bin/?", "welcome"; } < 1359069129 994269 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom bar < 1359069130 924071 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: wisdom: not found < 1359069139 472531 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :See: http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.1339 < 1359069159 466509 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :encoding is hard, huh < 1359069166 697323 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? `? < 1359069168 107780 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :See `? for further details. < 1359069197 24268 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/@ < 1359069198 238178 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/usr/bin/perl -w \ $_ = join " ", @ARGV; if (s/^([^ ]*) +([^ ]*) +//) { print "$1: "; exec $2, $_; } < 1359069215 256761 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ source code leaked! < 1359069255 969398 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there sane people who write Perl code? < 1359069274 284864 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1359069318 825406 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders whether people will ever stop with the "ha ha perl = bad" thing. < 1359069319 811856 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :then again, not writing perl code doesn't necessarily make you sane < 1359069346 940826 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: probably not < 1359069361 100369 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf is ga[sz]pacho? < 1359069365 215547 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`@ Sgeo ? mad < 1359069366 872434 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: "But I don't want to go among mad people," Alice remarked. "Oh, you can't help that," said the Cat: "we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad." "How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice. "You must be," said the Cat, "or you wouldn't have come here." < 1359069382 694289 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat bin/welcome < 1359069384 142965 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/usr/bin/perl -w \ if (defined($_=shift)) { s/ *$//; s/ +/ @ /g; exec "bin/@", $_ . " ? welcome"; } else { exec "bin/?", "welcome"; } < 1359069395 262149 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :apt quote for the channel, I feel < 1359069400 362747 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :or hope < 1359069400 875751 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? u < 1359069402 349570 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :u monad? < 1359069412 7133 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders which is more opaque, Perl or APL < 1359069418 206354 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: a spanish soup, traditionally served cold for hot summer days < 1359069467 964341 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, just as a guess, J might be worse than APL because it's restricted to normal (ascii?) characters, I guess < 1359069469 451217 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`@ shachaf ? you < 1359069470 668805 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you a haskell < 1359069487 722549 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn gaszpacho is a polish soup, traditionally szerved cold for hot szummer days < 1359069491 82924 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1359069503 527509 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably spelled gaszpaczo < 1359069505 221755 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote Actually, just as a guess, J might be worse than APL because it's restricted to normal (ascii?) characters, I guess < 1359069508 207935 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :936) Actually, just as a guess, J might be worse than APL because it's restricted to normal (ascii?) characters, I guess < 1359069509 779648 :WeThePeople!~WeThePeop@unaffiliated/wethepeople JOIN :#esoteric < 1359069511 877488 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Good point. < 1359069524 184147 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: (PLEASE FIX) < 1359069588 974127 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn gazspacho is a hungarian szoup, tradizsonally szerved cold for hot szummer dayz < 1359069593 336947 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1359069604 27950 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :or perhaps ch is almost equivalent in polish < 1359069612 50484 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : wtf is ga[sz]pacho? < 1359069615 320465 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cold tomato soup < 1359069616 985785 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm < 1359069623 86335 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1359069624 69749 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1359069630 232598 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1359069630 985233 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn gazspaczo is a hungarian szoup, tradizsonally szerved cold for hot szummer dayz < 1359069636 949651 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1359069637 185900 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless it's one of those weird cases where ch is a k sound < 1359069646 102612 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION did not mean to refer to either gaspach or gazpach < 1359069697 487427 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sed -i 's/is/iz/' wisdom/gazspaczo < 1359069698 529408 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usage: sed [OPTION]... {script-only-if-no-other-script} [input-file]... \ \ -n, --quiet, --silent \ suppress automatic printing of pattern space \ -e script, --expression=script \ add the script to the commands to be executed \ -f script-file, --file=script-file \ add the contents of script- < 1359069701 367016 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's/is/iz/' wisdom/gazspaczo < 1359069704 620221 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1359069737 434814 :sirdancealot7!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1359069763 341717 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? gazpacho < 1359069764 564261 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :You like Gazpacho and I like Gaspacho. Let's call the whole thing off! < 1359069812 916705 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? soup < 1359069814 115856 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :soup? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1359069814 827832 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm almost certain that's a reference to something, but I'm not sure what < 1359069822 403835 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: homestuck < 1359069831 821493 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: What? < 1359069838 875897 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn soup is like soup < 1359069840 78416 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: its a joke. im making a humerous joke for kidding purposes. < 1359069842 52525 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "What soup, doc?" >wisdom/soup < 1359069842 759228 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1359069845 704816 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1359069846 174913 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ty for ruining it < 1359069850 556303 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "What soup, Doc?" >wisdom/soup < 1359069854 138260 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1359069862 641227 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: np "its wat im hear 4 rite" < 1359069883 796518 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: SORRY OVERRULED YOU WITH FAMOUS REFERENCE < 1359069893 752989 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Let's_Call_the_Whole_Thing_Off < 1359069899 260278 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i prefferedererf olsner's < 1359069900 875935 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :duck soup? < 1359069918 820518 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? szoup < 1359069920 140421 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :szoup? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1359069923 500677 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...not _that_ famous < 1359070043 809351 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fuck flash < 1359070168 999065 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks to Mumble using a speech synthesizer for text chat, i realized “:P” is colon pee. < 1359070213 29746 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. diarrhea? < 1359070247 649244 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hopefully that will be all for tonight's installment of #esoteric-bodily-functions) < 1359070294 954597 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "A szoup a szilárd tápszereknek híg alakban való elkészítése a célból, hogy könnyebben emészthetők legyenek; a hígító anyag a viz, mely feloldja s magába veszi a tápanyag legértékesebb részeit." >wisdom/szoup < 1359070298 206052 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1359070309 93335 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't see a channel name and not join it < 1359070315 602780 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :#include < 1359070318 14093 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1359070321 880755 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: has that translation been validated by all the eels in your hovercraft? < 1359070324 487060 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1359070350 558080 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :* Topic for #include is: I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous. < 1359070364 180593 :WeThePeople!~WeThePeop@unaffiliated/wethepeople QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1359070405 209790 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: no, just by hungarian wikipedia. < 1359070416 77069 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :* Topic for #include set by unknown at Thu May 29 15:24:17 2008 < 1359070430 188936 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Woak < 1359070433 905875 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Woah < 1359070438 95046 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :-NickServ- Registered : Mar 08 14:58:34 2002 (10 years, 46 weeks, 3 days, 08:35:08 ago) < 1359070440 746698 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :-NickServ- Last seen : now < 1359070476 876821 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :...what's whoah about this exactly < 1359070502 793129 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"someone spent NEARLY ELEVEN YEARS DOING SOMETHING REGULARLY" < 1359070529 290808 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"they must be, like, in their THIRTIES by now" < 1359070599 787291 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ok, must be correct then < 1359070630 950779 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless someone just went and made up a bunch of pretend-hungarian and put it on the hungarian wikipedia < 1359070700 292041 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it's even a quote, the original has quote marks < 1359070726 893116 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: doing what regularly < 1359070840 374599 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"An object is just something in a category." < 1359070851 78978 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"something" needs to be elaborated on, clearly. < 1359070858 715123 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :"A something is just something in a something." < 1359070865 332254 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :objects are kind of the very nature of somethingness < 1359070922 11143 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo seems to object. < 1359070924 982236 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Something, is soup." < 1359070938 730486 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls wisdom | grep s < 1359070940 176549 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523 \ banach-tarski \ endomorphism \ esoteric \ finnish \ finns \ friendship \ gaspacho \ gaszpacho \ gazspacho \ gazspaczo \ haskell \ helsinki \ homestuck \ hom-set \ itidus19 \ itidus20 \ itidus21 \ kallisti \ lens \ lifthrasiir \ maths \ misspellings of croissant \ monads \ morphism \ natural transformation \ oceans \ olsner \ scotland \ sge < 1359070950 646322 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? scotland < 1359070952 115832 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scotland is a country in northern Britain. It is known for having no true inhabitants. The official religion is hatheism. Phantom_Hoover looks after the FREEDOM. < 1359070963 161525 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? misspellings of croissant < 1359070964 685423 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :misspellings of crosant? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1359070979 552259 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? misspellings of croissant < 1359070980 998985 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :misspellings of crosant? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1359070990 190043 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :same answer every time, how boring < 1359071034 464012 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How have I failed to see my wisdom all this time? < 1359071036 383221 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? sgeo < 1359071037 693218 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo is a language nomad. (Not to be confused with a language monad.) He invented Metaplace sex. < 1359071050 243756 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hope you're suitably whelmed. < 1359071060 500124 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.175 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1359071068 251610 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hom-set < 1359071069 697606 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hom-sets are just sets of morphisms between two objects. < 1359071101 334093 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1359071133 31133 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1359071137 924247 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? spam < 1359071139 181226 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spam is a delicious meat product. See http://www.spamjamhawaii.com/ < 1359071151 271587 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is a Spam Jam. Why is there a Spam Jam. < 1359071211 972500 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's next, parties for other BRANDNAME PRODUCTYPE products? < 1359071231 182671 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is jam made from spam < 1359071238 616222 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, that implies that I think that Spam is a type of jma < 1359071241 204418 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :jam < 1359071264 888236 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you think spam is jam? < 1359071268 577635 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love szpam < 1359071286 127369 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cyberiad < 1359071287 573334 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :cyberiad? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1359071295 188854 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :in poland some people's names start with szcz < 1359071321 55891 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wisom isn't very liar paradoxy < 1359071321 540180 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run >wisdom/cyberiad echo The Cyberiad is not just a book. < 1359071322 267664 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisom isn't very liar paradoxy? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1359071324 539099 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1359071328 313505 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wisdom < 1359071329 550065 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom is always factually accurate, except for this entry < 1359071331 721544 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not very liar paradoxy < 1359071367 44622 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :szyberiad < 1359071422 318314 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run >wisdom/'structural subtyping' echo Not to be confused with substructural typing. < 1359071425 601351 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1359071430 343161 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run >wisdom/'substructural typing' echo Not to be confused with structural subtyping. < 1359071433 718814 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1359071450 873916 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? monoids < 1359071452 319635 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :monoids? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1359071457 226987 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn monoids are so easy :D < 1359071460 704003 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1359071465 419230 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm wisdom/monoids < 1359071465 899336 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? monoid < 1359071468 822425 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monoids are just categories with a single object. < 1359071470 787735 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1359071488 791079 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Easiness is so easy :D < 1359071514 880675 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Monoids are the easy version of categories. < 1359071518 452796 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1359071541 295938 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...now i'm annoyed again. < 1359071556 490208 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Am I making wisdom/ worse? < 1359071567 683727 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ...good point. < 1359071585 476103 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It wasn't meant to be a point, but OK. < 1359071604 49801 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oerjan < 1359071605 308390 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your evil overlord oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also a lying Norwegian. < 1359071620 981402 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1359071651 297951 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :IMO we should just nuke all of wisdom/ except for the entries for places < 1359071661 818059 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? places < 1359071662 910551 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :places? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1359071664 150903 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey now < 1359071673 426651 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the original `? monad is a classic < 1359071680 209900 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? monad < 1359071681 590058 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :monads < 1359071689 973745 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? monads < 1359071691 222957 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monads are just monoids in the category of endofunctors. < 1359071698 811457 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHAT < 1359071719 886723 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1359071728 438113 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :your dumb plural scheme is defeated < 1359071754 719998 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What scheme? < 1359071792 78362 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a scheme most devious < 1359071801 55531 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? devious < 1359071802 348075 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :devious? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1359071816 76527 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo dumb > wisdom/devious < 1359071819 275030 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1359071923 722049 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? devious < 1359071924 929651 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :dumb < 1359071937 378405 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, is that what it means < 1359071974 83586 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: a bit more of this and i'll start agreeing with you.