< 1359677086 118879 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1359678723 965151 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.176 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1359678797 147740 :WeThePeople!~WeThePeop@unaffiliated/wethepeople QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1359678871 107096 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the /topic program? SUBLEQ interpreter or something? < 1359678887 855466 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is it actually a linux rootkit? *fucked* < 1359679152 74744 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-170-156.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks to be a SUBLEQ interpreter, yeah. < 1359679252 388441 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a linux rootkit < 1359679253 934961 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :for qnx < 1359679256 941925 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the amiga < 1359679288 55136 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can something be a linux rootkit for qnx? < 1359679297 912492 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it could be a program that roots qnx if you run it on Linux < 1359679328 540870 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-15-143.mpls.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or a rootkit that runs on a linux kernel modified to run at the same time as qnx < 1359679329 228554 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1359679359 942256 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you can build UML for QNX < 1359679370 914920 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo's shameful secret < 1359679376 230223 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1359679388 956396 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1359679404 559523 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently blackberry OS is based on QNX? < 1359679408 690897 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody told me < 1359679541 136830 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-15-143.mpls.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :10 and playbook are < 1359679546 907755 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-15-143.mpls.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :previous versions are not. < 1359679550 43219 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1359679556 32685 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1359679618 236641 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1359679670 494622 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-15-143.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1359679824 831859 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1359681255 262572 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1359681471 552819 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1359682124 144593 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1359682773 718091 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :more inappropriate haskell questions: is "main" a standard thing or what because I can't find it < 1359682843 192408 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it is < 1359682909 691921 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-170-156.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Yes: "main" is the Haskell entry point, just like main is the C entry point. < 1359682926 361173 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.haskell.org/onlinereport/haskell2010/haskellch5.html#x11-980005 < 1359682929 93550 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"A Haskell program is a collection of modules, one of which, by convention, must be called Main and must export the value main" aha < 1359682936 891937 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1359682970 175933 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(there's a flag to call it something else, naturally >:) ) < 1359682982 857423 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a standard flag? < 1359682985 423061 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(mostly intented for running test suites and the like) < 1359682989 832835 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, in ghc < 1359682997 145499 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooooo < 1359683302 690073 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm has Taneb revealed his email... < 1359683320 767304 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :taneb@taneb.taneb < 1359683326 520997 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :taneb@ngevd.atriq? < 1359683339 87761 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott i don't think taneb is even a real tld are you lying < 1359683395 313549 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im sure it is < 1359683502 190015 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh there is an email on his webpage < 1359683851 914913 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1359683911 42057 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric < 1359684319 353741 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Taneb I sent an email to your gmail account. < 1359684319 895207 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1359684706 299712 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65-183-140-119-dhcp.burlingtontelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1359685326 417912 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lecture went well < 1359685330 203584 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the crabputer was a crowd pleaser < 1359685349 533609 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks Bike < 1359685374 236284 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1359685402 937832 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :trying to design a "trace CPU" < 1359685403 196119 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :crabputers know what's hip < 1359685471 801728 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, instead of just executing the code < 1359685499 427105 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it allocates a new execution unit (ALU, multiplier, etc...) for each instruction < 1359685527 888434 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :once it reaches a loop, it just lets data stream through the already allocated units < 1359685637 581977 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1359685671 939700 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there any really good tracing JITs for VLIW architectures < 1359685677 351935 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that could be kind of an approximation of that < 1359685686 136414 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :where's my V8 for itanium =( =( =( < 1359685977 256142 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it reasonable to look at a language mostly because of its implications for how one would structure a program written in it < 1359685983 397675 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, yes < 1359686010 569072 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1359686037 292282 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskell tends to imply a certain structure (IO layer using non-IO layer) < 1359686048 272042 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1359686049 27389 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, why not try to get a grasp of how Erlang programs are structured < 1359686053 375100 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still don't understand it :/ < 1359686059 706704 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about Ada? < 1359686115 970784 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: it's kinda scary how VLIW architectures tend to bomb :o < 1359686153 66413 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo have you seen Erlang: The Movie < 1359686210 908538 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think part of it, I don't remember if I've seen the whole thing. If I have, I don't remember it < 1359686214 869455 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know I've heard of it < 1359686232 621808 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think erlang programs involve lots of small concurrent agents which interact through semi ad-hoc algebraic-data-ish protocols < 1359686233 55819 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's kind of ... dry and old, isn't it? < 1359686265 446065 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :one point of it being dynamically typed is that you can restart small parts independently from each other < 1359686295 252262 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure that dynamic typing is a requirement for that < 1359686297 268389 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1359686298 144165 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :harder to migrate a distributed system piecemeal if your protocols are very rigid < 1359686310 649062 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not a requirement but it makes things easier < 1359686314 691642 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION doesn't think that argument makes much sense
< 1359686323 460583 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I guess I would say that all protocols are rigid < 1359686325 885438 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway i don't know erlang < 1359686331 58250 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is just a question of how much your code acknowledges that fact < 1359686374 768458 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd like to see more languages structured like zzt-oop (or megazeux's "robotic") < 1359686378 391316 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :all protocols are rigid but their implementations are crazed nuttiness? < 1359686387 359293 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzt, isn't that something for games < 1359686402 534038 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike : yes! < 1359686410 805793 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zomg moreutils has /usr/bin/errno -l? < 1359686424 131902 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike : so it would probably work well for GUI < 1359686457 415291 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«Note the use of an invisible "timer" object to send a periodical ShootDownward message to the Shooter.» man this reminds me of game maker < 1359686461 749476 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm... not sure if that's a good thing < 1359686473 622116 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"They are neither operating system processes nor operating system threads, but lightweight processes[citation needed]." < 1359686482 549265 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :1+1=2[citation needed] < 1359686518 27491 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1359686540 20172 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: principia mathematica, done < 1359686546 245666 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> monoidize "threads" < 1359686549 41334 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "are threads like monoids? I love monoids" < 1359686554 756467 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf < 1359686556 630220 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1359686565 448523 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i didn't write monoidize....................................... < 1359686571 890619 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> monoidize "monoids" < 1359686574 454194 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "are monoids like monoids? I love monoids" < 1359686578 560051 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeo..... < 1359686582 175136 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no.............................. < 1359686589 562037 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> monoidize "monqy" < 1359686592 56838 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "is monqy like monoids? I love monoids" < 1359686597 547068 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"ok maybe thats enough....." < 1359686597 730516 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly, they have very simple languages yet they're fairly usable actually < 1359686597 730603 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh nice < 1359686607 400985 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> monoidize "people" < 1359686610 52687 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "is people like monoids? I love monoids" < 1359686613 510206 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :megazeux didn't have any functions or even subroutines < 1359686614 441327 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@undefine < 1359686619 612080 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'( < 1359686623 596417 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or objects/structs < 1359686624 679703 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy < 1359686628 562150 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or strings < 1359686633 149311 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you just @undefine!! < 1359686639 836279 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :who knows < 1359686643 6039 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i sure said @undefine < 1359686644 955384 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr: if i'm reading the zzt-oop article right it has objects? < 1359686690 645342 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: "thats what @undefining is" < 1359686695 637335 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: nice re errno < 1359686701 748863 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :<3 moreutils < 1359686722 111005 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I've spent way too much time hunting down the lesser-known errno mappings in some cases. < 1359686739 519412 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean e.g. pretty-printed message to number. < 1359686781 653961 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's at least one errno that can only be produced by a single point in the Linux kernel < 1359686797 141422 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :EACHIEVEMENTUNLOCKED < 1359686820 850354 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :each and every ievement < 1359686909 311750 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I came to the conclusion that mkaing an MD5 collision under those constraints would be hard. < 1359686916 835293 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I just posted a bug. < 1359686928 512875 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: what is it? < 1359686954 595681 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist #I don't think shachaf was here when I did this < 1359686958 124285 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf oerjan Sgeo < 1359687022 531963 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this the super mega list < 1359687052 279755 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the oots list < 1359687057 918813 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`smlist < 1359687061 503502 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: smlist: not found < 1359687073 599456 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I saw it. < 1359687093 32922 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay! < 1359687106 938012 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone should just echo echo `/names` > bin/smlist < 1359687115 271414 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because who wouldn't want to read super mega comics? < 1359687135 67264 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm does irssi have interpolation like that i wonder < 1359687404 504185 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1359687471 517494 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Good night < 1359687903 601382 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike: objects? yes and no < 1359687920 860072 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has objects but objects can't store any data < 1359687935 893420 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :each object has its own code < 1359687945 72085 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it runs once per frame < 1359687985 130440 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and when it runs it essentially keeps running until it reaches a command that has a pause in it < 1359688007 526401 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :such as "wait 1" (megazeux, zzt-oop has an equivalent) < 1359688022 896945 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then next frame it continues from there < 1359688033 720659 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so they're really kindof like cooperative threads < 1359688053 432537 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also objects are part of the tile map and the player can't go through them < 1359688842 972289 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: http://livegrep.com/search?q=ETOOMANYREFS < 1359688849 805543 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's in the UNIX socket garbage collector >_< < 1359688907 592698 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yeah it was a bit ACHIEVEMENT UNLOCKED when i wrote code which hit this error < 1359689100 680163 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Too many references: cannot splice" informative < 1359689217 943947 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: LC_ALL=de_DE.utf-8 errno -l < 1359689308 890094 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Veraltete NFS-Dateizugriffsnummer < 1359689346 210699 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eingabe-/Ausgabefehler < 1359689369 631090 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Unterbrechung während des Betriebssystemaufrufs" i think that was in the Ring Cycle < 1359689665 220224 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com QUIT :Quit: Radiateur < 1359689822 494469 :TwilightSpockle!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION tests something.
< 1359689830 420391 :TwilightSpockle!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did that show up as a /me to y'all? < 1359689856 110973 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1359689904 372588 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did you do < 1359689923 607291 :TwilightSpockle!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I actually typed in the \x01. < 1359689929 279888 :TwilightSpockle!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :To me it showed as messages with \x01 X-D < 1359689937 250226 :TwilightSpockle!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I thought maybe it'd actually sent something weird. < 1359689952 201695 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was a bot in another channel such that we had it send arbitrary CTCPs with its echo command < 1359689955 193092 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was fun < 1359689973 405201 :TwilightSpockle!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, you could do that with HackEgo until somebody whinged about it. < 1359690008 828279 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(you should put that back) < 1359690039 996255 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Arc_Koen > 1359692235 722753 JOIN :#esoteric > 1359692239 852357 JOIN :#esoteric > 1359692240 369883 JOIN :#esoteric > 1359692284 935164 JOIN :#esoteric > 1359692289 61992 JOIN :#esoteric > 1359692289 577587 JOIN :#esoteric > 1359692346 931827 JOIN :#esoteric > 1359692351 53816 JOIN :#esoteric > 1359692351 564074 JOIN :#esoteric > 1359692400 54087 JOIN :#esoteric < 1359692401 268256 :glogbot!codu@codu.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1359692401 911157 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@64.31.59.246 PART :#esoteric > 1359692404 166662 JOIN :#esoteric > 1359692404 676983 JOIN :#esoteric < 1359692489 915045 :RodgerTheGreat!~rodger@71-13-216-83.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com QUIT :Quit: RodgerTheGreat < 1359696437 895906 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com TOPIC #esoteric :char*a,b[9999];main(){gets(a=b);while(*a){a+=(b[*a]-=b[a[1]])?3:a[2];}puts(b+1);} | fiat luxembourg http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1359696955 628990 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: what does that program do mannnnnn < 1359696968 496385 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it cant be the shortest missing subscript < 1359696975 645224 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :*string < 1359696977 749004 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it hecks your aim < 1359697019 249412 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: halp i is too unsmart < 1359697029 924095 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody can avoid the aim hecking < 1359697045 496918 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION dodges
< 1359697467 625002 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a SUBLEQ interpreter or similar < 1359697468 939810 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think < 1359697471 638824 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it was said < 1359697476 100496 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didnot invent it < 1359697559 515370 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :who said it < 1359697577 868777 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gregor. < 1359697589 842991 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :gregor says lots of things < 1359697943 325343 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1359698046 942237 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1359698739 335947 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@admin - shachaf < 1359698740 914782 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@admin + shachaf < 1359698748 578534 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: It's official now. < 1359698750 596578 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1359698759 208197 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's actually not official. < 1359698767 301213 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um, I'm the office. < 1359698776 315557 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the configuration file is the office. < 1359698799 706314 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1359698804 296453 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hike < 1359698827 906989 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :seven hundred and sixty one armless and legless corpses < 1359698844 64126 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: do you love monoids yet < 1359698894 477531 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there will be no love, except for love of monoids < 1359699001 940411 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw congratulations shachaf < 1359699031 349990 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :congratulations!!! < 1359699064 276536 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you going to do with this new “power„ < 1359699149 618126 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe rule with an "iron fist" < 1359699157 668792 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just a copper fist?? < 1359699190 460981 :clog!~nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1359699195 975512 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rule with a fencyclidine fist < 1359699207 12710 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow that was some shitty spelling < 1359699231 873017 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi clog < 1359699233 793184 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wasup < 1359699244 162239 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wehlcohme clog < 1359699249 95333 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :clohg: Wehlcohme to the ihntehrnahtiohnahl huhb fohr ehsohtehrihc prohgrahmmihng lahnguahge dehsihgn ahnd dehployhmehnt! Fohr mohre ihnfohrmahtiohn, chehck ouht ouhr wihki: http://ehsohlahngs.ohrg/wihki/Maihn_Pahge. (Fohr the ohthehr kihnd ohf ehsohtehrihca, try #ehsohtehrihc ohn ihrc.dahl.neht.) < 1359699842 103254 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course it is mandatory for me to join #ehsohtehrihc on Freenode < 1359699868 414168 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat wehlcohme < 1359699871 233592 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: wehlcohme: No such file or directory < 1359699872 66475 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :#ifdef _CPLUSPLUS < 1359699873 220440 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "esoteric" | ?hh < 1359699876 237866 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/wehlcohme < 1359699877 358646 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1359699880 94404 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :welcome "$@" | h < 1359699882 325127 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1359699885 102418 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1359699887 542360 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "esoteric" | h < 1359699891 331997 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehsohtehrihc < 1359699892 713543 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :#endif < 1359699897 155461 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "char*a,b[9999];main(){gets(a=b);while(*a){a+=(b[*a]-=b[a[1]])?3:a[2];}puts(b+1);} | fiat luxembourg http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/" | h < 1359699899 880568 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy - < 1359699900 949380 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :chahr*a,b[9999];maihn(){gehts(a=b);whihle(*a){a+=(b[*a]-=b[a[1]])?3:a[2];}puhts(b+1);} | fiaht luhxehmbouhrg http://cohdu.ohrg/lohgs/_ehsohtehrihc/ < 1359699952 84551 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, hm? < 1359700924 286955 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Y combinator has a similar structure to a typical quine < 1359700931 204438 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're based on the same trick of implicit self-reference < 1359700947 872304 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :as is the proof by contradiction of the undecidability of the halting problem < 1359700953 37262 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that's fun < 1359700988 718941 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about kleene recursion < 1359701792 811293 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1359701807 110467 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kind of mentioned that too but not really < 1359701829 113840 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need it to do the halting proof in full rigor < 1359701863 280767 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :diagonalization? < 1359701872 717026 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about it? < 1359701890 856651 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that what you mean by "full rigor" < 1359701914 258906 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :personally i just like the intuitive loop scooper thing but that's not as useful... < 1359701979 347200 :sebbu!~sebbu@83.194.47.37 JOIN :#esoteric < 1359701979 571631 :sebbu!~sebbu@83.194.47.37 QUIT :Changing host < 1359701979 571809 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1359702119 870264 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well in this lecture i just went with the good old (define (f x) (if (halts? x x) (loop-forever) 0)) < 1359702127 165991 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, that < 1359702147 538352 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think, if you want to do that proof in full rigor on turing machines specifically, you need kleene's recursion theorem < 1359702150 699238 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure though, it's been a while < 1359702157 897767 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google scooping the loop snooper < 1359702160 203863 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.lel.ed.ac.uk/~gpullum/loopsnoop.html < 1359702160 389268 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: Scooping the Loop Snooper — Geoffrey K. Pullum < 1359702186 493265 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, i don't think i've actually read turing's original paper. < 1359702187 391304 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did talk about diagonalization but not specifically about halting, just showing that the set of functions is uncountable while the set of programs is countable < 1359702190 537528 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1359702206 961747 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually just about the only turing i've read is the test paper. that's probably not good < 1359702213 681809 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that article is great < 1359702222 76624 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my favorite part is the ESP speculation < 1359702223 209896 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: did you like the part where he speculates about beating the turing test using ESP < 1359702226 214170 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yesssss < 1359702240 458558 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just imagine singulatarians reading it dumbfounded < 1359702270 483878 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think nobody is quite sure if he was joking or not < 1359702306 958931 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i read a nice article on turing's article from a lit perspective once < 1359702316 500941 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :guy thought turing was a pretty funny guy overall < 1359702356 612011 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...i can never find it again when i want it, though. < 1359702356 914333 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, that sounds interesting < 1359702368 361802 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you see the article about how maybe turing didn't kill himself on purpose < 1359702382 543378 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, i've heard rumors about that however < 1359702393 777489 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-18561092 < 1359702398 350720 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.furtherfield.org/features/articles/why-arent-we-reading-turing here we go < 1359702463 604795 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, i didn't know he wrote about the chemical basis of morphogenesis < 1359702475 397086 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's cool < 1359702483 52853 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah there was a bit of news stuff about that last year when they actually found some turing morphogens < 1359702606 185409 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it numberwang? we'll have to check with the boffins. < 1359702664 330690 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In a man of his type, one never knows what his mental processes are going to do next." one can only hope he meant "genius" and not "teh ghey" < 1359702681 557328 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :saying "what if it wasn't suicide??" seems to have an uncomfortable whiff of downplaying the awful treatment turing was going through at the time to me < 1359702709 433275 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: the article i linked doesn't downplay it really < 1359702742 479645 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's more like "what if he had the strength to endure awful treatment in relatively good spirits" < 1359702750 800243 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean if the facts stated are true, we will never know if it was suicide or not < 1359702761 167034 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: the professor made a point of saying "no this was still horrible" < 1359702770 982484 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it shouldn't affect whether the treatment was unjust or the legacy of his life before his death < 1359702832 614908 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.kcl.ac.uk/newsevents/news/newsrecords/2012/02Feb/Scientists-prove-Turings-tiger-stripe-theory-.aspx it is apparently impossible to find the actual goddamn paper < 1359702896 388268 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of the classics, it's funny that Gödel never got around to publishing part 2 of the paper on incompleteness < 1359702900 809143 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because part 1 was such a bombshell < 1359702923 137832 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you've seen his letter to von neumann, right? < 1359702925 733064 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i also think it's kind of weird that all this theory developed in super abstract form just a decade or so before people started building actual computers < 1359702929 904423 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't think so < 1359702963 203007 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://rjlipton.wordpress.com/the-gdel-letter/ "hey i heard your sick but whatever let me talk about proofs" < 1359703036 30038 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha he even mentions type theory as foundational < 1359703098 287334 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1359703118 440658 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"ramified" is still the silliest goddamn word < 1359703131 504875 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah type theory is an alternative to set theory, or something < 1359703140 577431 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure if it's exactly the same thing programmers mean by 'type theory' < 1359703182 269566 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i mean the math. people do that as foundational nowadays. < 1359703190 190372 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that that has much to do with ramified types any more. < 1359703335 66362 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :greecallister < 1359703795 274064 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hichaf < 1359703797 32399 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :going to bed tho < 1359705070 179947 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-131-156.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1359705122 327471 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-131-156.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan Thanks for your Fueue fix! < 1359705122 513591 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1359705166 973231 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :thoerjan < 1359705219 412944 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-131-156.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, the balloons have returned < 1359705219 598057 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1359705232 638925 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :happy birthday!! < 1359705242 285344 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-131-156.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Turns out they didn't come for me < 1359705245 404504 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-131-156.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am still only 18 < 1359705269 411252 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh, that's such a shitty age though. < 1359705271 788127 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're sure? < 1359705280 354536 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-131-156.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1359705284 184686 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-131-156.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's my mum's birthday < 1359705303 569255 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait i thought you said that if you were fifty you'd be older than your parents < 1359705306 571767 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!!?!?!!!??? < 1359705363 282473 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-131-156.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was yesterday < 1359705377 666380 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Taneb < 1359705400 519929 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-131-156.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi shachaf < 1359705413 492584 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-131-156.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Explain the meaning of your "hi" < 1359705436 680814 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Happy bIrdthay < 1359705440 55984 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(to your mum) < 1359705466 433624 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(here in america there aren't any mums) < 1359705487 716347 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are mumps though. < 1359706424 50175 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-131-156.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1359706610 958255 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: memorize < 1359709998 326009 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1359710231 163708 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask zzo38 What about newtype Foo b s a r = Foo (Either b (s, a -> r)); CodensityAsk (Foo b s a) t? < 1359710231 550839 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1359710648 92513 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.176 JOIN :#esoteric < 1359712891 190826 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://literallyunbelievable.org/post/41195269567/theres-no-such-thing < 1359712892 490203 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just < 1359712914 992103 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :One particular xkcd comes to mind < 1359713412 685065 :TwilightSpockle!codu@codu.org QUIT :*.net *.split < 1359713592 12717 :TwilightSpockle!codu@codu.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1359715634 844520 :TodPunk!~Tod@166-70-93-209.ip.xmission.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1359715668 255070 :Tod-Autojoined!~Tod@166-70-93-209.ip.xmission.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1359717214 263475 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, #haskell-lens is bigger than #esoteric < 1359717449 889271 :impomatic!~digital_w@148.54.112.87.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1359717548 426025 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.176 QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1359717937 123299 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Let's imagine that utilities are radioactive; If we are careful with out containment procedures, we can safely combine and compare them, but if we interact with an unshielded utility, it's over, we've committed a type error." < 1359717945 280976 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh god utilities are monads < 1359717951 840089 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(note: utilities probably not monads) < 1359719283 679325 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1359719714 759291 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-26-37.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1359719730 146624 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-26-37.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1359719730 447759 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1359720807 487502 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1359720890 726678 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :unsafeNmap :: MonadIO m => m Utility -> m () < 1359720902 684110 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1359721351 546992 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1359721578 646358 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1359721904 847985 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1359722450 960242 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1359722946 258294 :salehkamali999!~kamal@5.121.209.189 JOIN :#esoteric < 1359722970 69693 :salehkamali999!~kamal@5.121.209.189 QUIT :Client Quit < 1359723284 618428 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1359723330 990969 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1359723348 758824 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1359723493 813635 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1359723509 623119 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1359723585 205769 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1359724263 957164 :Kosova!~ardi98_1@91.187.125.194 JOIN :#esoteric < 1359724287 140812 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1359724840 418785 :Kosova!~ardi98_1@91.187.125.194 QUIT : < 1359725486 184457 :Taneb!d917e6fc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.23.230.252 JOIN :#esoteric < 1359729927 631384 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1359730933 14447 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1359731741 144154 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1359732275 5769 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89-rdmsoft [XULRunner 1.9.0.17/2009122204] < 1359732394 682362 :Taneb!d917e6fc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.23.230.252 QUIT : < 1359732503 574361 :Tod-Autojoined!~Tod@166-70-93-209.ip.xmission.com NICK :TodPunk < 1359732595 498650 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1359733097 315908 :noam__!~noam@213.57.201.130 NICK :noam < 1359734306 666215 :nortti!~juhani@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :can anyone ping nortti.dy.fi now? < 1359734401 458645 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1359734438 872255 :nortti!~juhani@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :great < 1359735048 182068 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@91-145-118-87.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1359735129 305894 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89-rdmsoft [XULRunner 1.9.0.17/2009122204] < 1359735299 610009 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1359735779 794166 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: what kind of server are you running? the only response header I get by visiting http://nortti.dy.fi/ is "Content-Type: text/html" < 1359735878 466749 :nortti!~juhani@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: my own http server written in python < 1359735891 874257 :nortti!~juhani@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: what is your exact request? < 1359735939 684055 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: I tried firefox first, just to see if you had anything running, then raw telnet to get a pretty list of all headers. < 1359735954 158055 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and I admit running a fast nmap against your domain.) < 1359735960 960297 :nortti!~juhani@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the request you used with telnet < 1359735989 868162 :nortti!~juhani@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that's ok. I used to have "run nmap here if you want to test it" on my homepage < 1359735990 667922 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :telnet nortti.dy.fi 80, then GET / HTTP/1.1. < 1359736018 39422 :nortti!~juhani@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what kind of line terminator? < 1359736039 58396 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eeeeh... I hope CR+LF, but probably only LF. < 1359736050 20727 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can see your stub web page just fine, too. < 1359736059 727530 :nortti!~juhani@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :very strange < 1359736084 698600 :nortti!~juhani@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have your telent in char or in line mode? < 1359736103 464430 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no idea. bog standard vanilla telnet on my machine. < 1359736117 821087 :nortti!~juhani@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what os your machine runs? < 1359736137 266000 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :arch linux, Linux njorun 3.7.5-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Mon Jan 28 10:03:32 CET 2013 x86_64 GNU/Linux. < 1359736146 694221 :nortti!~juhani@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you tried netcat? < 1359736166 30960 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, not yet. < 1359736243 633829 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :same behaviour with netcat: echo -e "GET / HTTP/1.1\r\n\r\n" | nc nortti.dy.fi 80 < 1359736267 582410 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :by the way, telnet (GNU inetutils) 1.9.1 and GNU netcat 0.7.1. < 1359736282 591279 :nortti!~juhani@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :very, very strange < 1359736294 546996 :nortti!~juhani@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you only see the headers? < 1359736309 670608 :nortti!~juhani@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and not the page itself= < 1359736311 191982 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, no. I was just wondering what was the webserver and stuff and anything. < 1359736319 567924 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the pages renders correctly. < 1359736329 722973 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/pages/page/, as I only saw a single page for now. < 1359736334 563413 :nortti!~juhani@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. then it works just as it shoudl < 1359736389 666295 :nortti!~juhani@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried to make it compatible with normaly used subset of HTTP 1.0 < 1359736469 998651 :nortti!~juhani@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: in case you are interested these files are available: foo.txt mcsnapshot strace_failed_config.log index.html os_cars.html < 1359736533 640973 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :playing with slitaz? < 1359736542 721003 :nortti!~juhani@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :using it as my main os < 1359736610 13883 :nortti!~juhani@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well slitaz 3.0 with all kind of crap put on top of it like toybox and my own coreutils replacing parts of busybox, pkgsrc and jpkg package managers and a lot of hand compiled stuff < 1359736624 958689 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1359736658 524991 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1359736949 620286 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1359737351 754002 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@91-145-118-87.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1359738591 676650 :TwilightSpockle!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :How are there people who don't program for fun. < 1359738593 635526 :TwilightSpockle!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't get it. < 1359738966 459412 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :programming is a combination of mentally challenging and tedious < 1359738987 613570 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus some people like things like being outside or interacting with humans in person < 1359738991 417671 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and would rather spend free time on that < 1359739057 185777 :TwilightSpockle!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :All I'm hearing is that people like to fritter their potential away on completely nonproductive uses of time. < 1359739057 545967 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"hacker" communities have a huge amount of prejudice against people who don't spend every waking hour thinking about programming < 1359739072 411981 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it's largely unfounded < 1359739079 98384 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://geekfeminism.org/2013/01/21/re-post-hiring-based-on-hobbies-effective-or-exclusive/ < 1359739089 217744 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I’ve seen other people imply that there’s something even morally suspect about somebody working an engineering job just for the money, and that someone who doesn’t do the same stuff in their free time is obviously just in it for the money. Of course, that’s classist. It’s easier to feel like you’re motivated by the sheer love of your work if you don’t really need the money." < 1359739116 729319 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :TwilightSpockle: oh yeah because writing the 2,000th toy Lisp interpreter or Python webapp framework nobody will ever use is so productive < 1359739132 334681 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway i think you're trolling < 1359739140 748700 :TwilightSpockle!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit X-D < 1359739156 642953 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :glad that's settled then < 1359739765 777261 :impomatic!~digital_w@181.253.125.91.dyn.plus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1359739900 586678 :WeThePeople!~WeThePeop@unaffiliated/wethepeople JOIN :#esoteric < 1359740726 31055 :tswett!~tswett@23.23.86.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I propose that we use the prefix "wyo-" to denote the fixed point of a word. < 1359740733 896338 :tswett!~tswett@23.23.86.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that, for example, a wyopicture is a picture of a wyopicture. < 1359740776 834505 :tswett!~tswett@23.23.86.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wyothinking is the act of thinking about wyothinking. < 1359740824 682523 :TwilightSpockle!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And Wyoming is... waaaaait < 1359740933 424001 :tswett!~tswett@23.23.86.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A wyoprinter is something that prints a wyoprinter. So, a quine is a type of wyoprinter. < 1359741027 1513 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, that wasn't obviously a joke from the start? < 1359741050 951271 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some people just love monoids, Phantom_Hoover. < 1359741063 383347 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is it with you and monoids < 1359741073 335132 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(DON'T SAY "THEY'RE SO EASY") < 1359741191 969821 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not easy being a monoid :( < 1359741270 934054 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You used to think that it was so easy? < 1359741345 258079 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1359741398 579107 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1359741478 699237 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone explain this monoid thing shachaf has developed, for god's sake < 1359741903 244424 :noam!~noam@213.57.201.130 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1359741913 577263 :tswett!~tswett@23.23.86.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf developed a monoid thing? < 1359741927 351465 :noam!~noam@213.57.201.130 JOIN :#esoteric < 1359742007 416789 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett, yes, he developed a condition where he inexplicably brings monoids up all the time. < 1359742066 613704 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I like monoids. they are ea... NOOOOOOOOOO! I think it's contagious! < 1359742286 983904 :cuttlefish!~cuttlefis@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1359742347 233449 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~fortune < 1359742348 117367 :cuttlefish!~cuttlefis@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kent's Heuristic: < 1359742348 440882 :cuttlefish!~cuttlefis@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Look for it first where you'd most like to find it. < 1359742412 224300 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. hoping to get useful guidance from a fortune DB is like trying to find a needle in a wyohaystack. < 1359742585 635625 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :finding a needle in a wyohaystack is pretty easy < 1359742598 613693 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :almost all of it is empty space, after all < 1359742683 86859 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover's method to find a needle in a wyohaystack: 1. Remove all empty space; 2. Whatever isn't empty in what's left is a needle < 1359742702 662557 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PART :#esoteric < 1359742716 893661 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty efficient < 1359742743 178045 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1359742845 701025 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Client Quit < 1359742859 307535 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1359742894 348223 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn wyohaystack is that which hasn't been sifted for emptiness yet. Easily needled. < 1359742898 222282 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1359742952 121711 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1359742974 928335 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.176 JOIN :#esoteric < 1359743000 465474 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you allow the -irth form to be used as a gerundive you can express a contradiction pretty easily < 1359743025 266020 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: You should encourage Sgeo to learn Ada. < 1359743029 889804 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's been giving up on it. < 1359743035 72127 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, don't give up! < 1359743070 500492 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: wyohaystackirth? < 1359743085 59904 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, nonono, the -irth form is applied to verbs < 1359743099 307602 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whyohaystacksearchirth < 1359743177 7094 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1359743256 682186 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and its French cognate, ouaillohéstaqueseurtchirtant. < 1359743288 356839 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: i don't know, maybe it is obviously a joke here < 1359743297 45632 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :on Hacker News such things are said in apparent seriousness < 1359743300 131564 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but poe's law etc < 1359743320 405713 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :cole's law etc < 1359743327 863075 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monoid's law < 1359743329 819962 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also hichaf < 1359743346 554164 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellogan international airport < 1359743354 658512 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: did shachaf tell you ~the news~ < 1359743358 178647 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :man coleslaw is such a weird word < 1359743359 308112 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i'm saying he's pregnant) < 1359743361 633291 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the news < 1359743365 164066 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1359743369 505632 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's pregnant with #haskell ophood < 1359743369 959262 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :congratschaf < 1359743370 325447 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't spread the news < 1359743382 225006 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=kmc < 1359743390 394211 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :corridor < 1359743395 103385 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now there's an amazing word < 1359743421 831996 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'The term "coleslaw" arose in the eighteenth century as an Anglicisation of the Dutch term "koolsla", a shortening of "koolsalade", which means "cabbage salad"' < 1359743431 663626 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the space of about 2 minutes, I'm now completely confused. I love Fridays. < 1359743432 787048 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'koolsalade' < 1359743459 269339 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cabbage salad? < 1359743459 620286 :TwilightSpockle!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cole slaw is some pretty cool salad. < 1359743460 901416 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eugh < 1359743469 356428 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sauerkraut is better < 1359743473 985716 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :here you can buy bright neon nite-glo aggressive toxic green coleslaw in small plasting containers. < 1359743477 646305 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dutch always sounds like that < 1359743484 510615 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it tastes weird. < 1359743488 108868 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: what do you think of LC_ALL=de_DE.UTF-8 errno -l < 1359743503 857283 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :When I run it I just see English. :-( < 1359743509 553063 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is my computer racist ☹ < 1359743509 946580 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :try having more locales < 1359743522 836458 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :can i just get a globale and have it done with < 1359743554 520288 :impomatic!~digital_w@181.253.125.91.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a better way to do this regex? ((mul|add|sub)(\.i|\.f|\.x)?) I just watch to match and return mul mul.i mul.f mul.x add add.i add.f .... etc < 1359743560 691183 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf_SHACHAF.UTF-8 < 1359743579 741721 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf_SHACHAF.UCS-2.625 < 1359743580 57749 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: you could factor the dot out < 1359743603 452207 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh but you want the .f .i etc to be optional? < 1359743633 802287 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it would be like ((mul_add_sub)(\.(i|f|x))?) which is kinda ugly < 1359743646 586114 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretend those underscores are bars < 1359743650 515940 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Now it works! < 1359743658 951890 :impomatic!~digital_w@181.253.125.91.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Yes, optional < 1359743698 518381 :impomatic!~digital_w@181.253.125.91.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm writing a JavaScript syntax highlighter for Redcode :-) < 1359743698 840633 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :((mul|add|sub)(\.i|\.f|\.x)?) seems perfect to me < 1359743708 391223 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it's fine < 1359743730 438561 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh I guess (i|f|x) could also be [ifx] < 1359743736 829022 :impomatic!~digital_w@181.253.125.91.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks... never used regular expressions before. < 1359743742 359816 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not a biggie though < 1359743752 951373 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: congrats then :) < 1359743766 202121 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :((mul|add|sub)(\.[ifx])?) < 1359743816 588060 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I'd install a funpuns locale. < 1359743845 113198 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1359743850 648018 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about an anagrams locale for error messages < 1359743861 402550 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just to make linux harder to understand < 1359743974 65012 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I don't even have an errno(1). < 1359743979 756830 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :install moreutils < 1359743985 721060 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :moreutils is the greatest < 1359743987 407124 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds like work. < 1359743989 159311 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bow down before moreutils < 1359744000 64901 :impomatic!~digital_w@181.253.125.91.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I need to figure out to to not exclude any matches preceded by a semicolon < 1359744004 180167 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then you'll have 'parallel' and 'ts' and 'sponge'! < 1359744004 691647 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :moreutils is "rly good" elliott < 1359744018 257409 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but is it easy < 1359744023 825457 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :remember the time when you first found out about moreutils < 1359744029 220021 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just man page after man page of greatness < 1359744047 317334 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1359744048 56552 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :sponge is the only really great one < 1359744057 70674 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'parallel' is very handy < 1359744066 37125 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :though xargs can almost do the same thing < 1359744066 479633 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :xargs can do that, though. < 1359744081 800529 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it has ts < 1359744097 310443 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :sl is the best unix utility < 1359744110 798901 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zomg < 1359744113 649323 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : Copyright 2006 by Joey Hess < 1359744125 8791 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mm ls typos < 1359744128 50104 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the same JoeyH!! < 1359744139 466343 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i admin'd a server once where if you typed 'lsd' it would open the TiHKAL page about LSD inside links < 1359744144 599126 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1359744147 861043 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :sl is still better < 1359744158 562550 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The best thing about Ubuntu is that it has the "command-not-found" handler such that when you type ls, it waits a couple of seconds anyway. < 1359744164 164594 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er, whne you type sl < 1359744167 328681 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even if it's not installed. < 1359744172 705420 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :counterpoint: moreutils' favicon is esr's stupid glider emblem thing < 1359744176 34767 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(fuck that guy) < 1359744177 292491 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: :( < 1359744288 935849 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I am pretty sure esr was just a loudmouth rather than a self-admitted awful racist loudmouth when that emblem was popularised < 1359744294 12285 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :less bad than it could be??? < 1359744304 16921 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's also just a dumb idea though < 1359744316 754178 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hackers aren't already enough of an elitist cult, we need a logo to be smug about too < 1359744353 799633 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it uses the ugly phase of the glider < 1359744386 645704 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which phase would you prefer? < 1359744472 416382 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the... other one < 1359744500 504558 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was afraid you'd say that. < 1359744512 41288 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It sounds like you're just wrong here. < 1359744530 967910 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1359744536 972764 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that phase is way better < 1359744538 763072 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no question < 1359744555 609120 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't be wrong, Phantom_Hoover. < 1359744563 601740 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to save your soul here. < 1359744592 689963 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www-rohan.sdsu.edu/~rcarrete/teaching/M-596_patt/images/glider.gif so which one is better here < 1359744618 724618 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :0/2/4 are equally good < 1359744630 305786 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/3 are just is that even a glider?? < 1359744656 504954 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: what do you think about HighLife < 1359744656 983280 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, 3 < 1359744662 880194 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 is sort of eh < 1359744665 976599 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"i don't like life, it's too mainstream" < 1359744680 616237 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 isn't as good as 3 but it's still strong < 1359744681 672523 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: that's just normal life for me, man < 1359744684 696002 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 is just wtf < 1359744689 131189 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hackers are pentacellular protists that can't do anything but plod along in one direction, and die when they hit the slightest resistance < 1359744692 969068 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1359744708 98346 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mm protists < 1359744714 54212 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, but in HighLife they sometimes explode! < 1359744714 504088 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Bike < 1359744726 240218 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: the LED sign that i programmed uses HighLife on a projective plane < 1359744737 355810 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi shachaf < 1359744744 841493 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds nifty. < 1359744753 412268 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :exploding protists high on life? < 1359744764 103762 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(fun fact, you can turn the highlife replicator into an n-length spaceship by tacking a traffic light to one end) < 1359744764 920640 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the rule is similar enough to Life that it looks the same, except the probability of getting various still-lifes is different < 1359744790 243867 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the boat is notably absent < 1359744791 466412 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Day & Night is the coolest CA imo < 1359744808 984596 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I programmed it to spawn gliders occasionally, to keep the world from settling into a boring state < 1359744825 496747 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: are you with me < 1359744843 639992 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :def. the coolest moore-type ca < 1359744853 806188 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: did you also use the monster all the time in simcity < 1359744868 23699 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was kind of wondering how the poisson rate of glider generation affects the entropy over time of the system < 1359744871 898025 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: instead of gliders it sohuld have spawned replicators < 1359744882 19001 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: who didn't? < 1359744882 830227 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :whether there's a specific best rate for interesting patterns, or whether lots of different rates are roughly equivalent < 1359744899 842460 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*should < 1359744903 534145 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Causing various disasters is the only thing I remember about SimCity. < 1359744924 198817 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :since it wraps around, if you spawn gliders on an empty plane they will live forever until they hit something < 1359744925 847474 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the most bestest CA is wireworld. < 1359744951 664672 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i hypothesize that there's some natural feedback between the complexity of existing patterns and the ability of created gliders to add complexity < 1359744954 635349 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: that's a fun fact < 1359744960 190809 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like von neumann's because it's so ridiculous < 1359745062 271999 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Evoloop is best CA. < 1359745106 887646 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Pixel_golly.gif efficient < 1359745276 977639 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if anyone's gotten around to building a true replicator in Life < 1359745360 92521 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo the most bestest CA is the one everyone should live in < 1359745371 127070 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and monqy already lives in?? < 1359745501 521962 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: http://www.argentum.freeserve.co.uk/lex_u.htm#universalconstructor yeah < 1359745545 477937 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's outdated < 1359745565 82385 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :since then someone gave an explicit pattern for something that's almost, but not quite, a true replicator < 1359745601 579380 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://b3s23life.blogspot.co.uk/2013/01/replicator-redux.html < 1359745606 993019 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1359745689 165619 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi monqy < 1359745693 412176 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :welcome to our little channel < 1359745711 801224 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :#haskell-lens was bigger than #esoteric earlier < 1359745740 351813 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, uh, shut up? < 1359745752 124047 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1359745759 519850 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Should I? < 1359745766 317273 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Phantom_Hoover might be right. < 1359745792 525102 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :certainly not! < 1359745793 189919 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1359745841 929567 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now to go see what i was answering -> < 1359746291 905968 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote shachaf: LC_ALL=de_DE.utf-8 errno -l Veraltete NFS-Dateizugriffsnummer Eingabe-/Ausgabefehler "Unterbrechung während des Betriebssystemaufrufs" i think that was in the Ring Cycle < 1359746295 872423 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :946) shachaf: LC_ALL=de_DE.utf-8 errno -l Veraltete NFS-Dateizugriffsnummer Eingabe-/Ausgabefehler "Unterbrechung während des Betriebssystemaufrufs" i think that was in the Ring Cycle < 1359746394 559951 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : there was a bot in another channel such that we had it send arbitrary CTCPs with its echo command < 1359746409 816659 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ctcp ACTION can do that too < 1359746418 844746 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...well, could. < 1359746423 890417 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^show < 1359746424 210844 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo reverb rev rot13 rev2 fib wc ul cho choo pow2 source help hw srmlebac uenlsbcmra scramble unscramble asc ord prefixes tmp test celebrate wiki chr ha rainbow rainbow2 welcome me tell eval elikoski list < 1359746442 709113 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^me easily does this < 1359746443 25641 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION easily does this
< 1359746506 981456 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess ^ctcp wasn't saved. < 1359746577 559001 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^tell what now < 1359746577 846466 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you mean @tell instead? < 1359746591 325549 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^pow2 5 < 1359746591 801422 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 2 4 8 16 32 64 128 256 512 1024 2048 4096 8192 16384 32768 65536 131072 262144 524288 1048576 2097152 4194304 8388608 16777216 33554432 67108864 134217728 268435456 536870912 1073741824 2147483648 42949672 ... < 1359746601 66245 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^show pow2 < 1359746601 263336 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :+2[[<+7[-<+7>]>[-<+<+>>]<[->+<]<-2.[-]<]+4[->+8<]>.[-]>>[-[>+2<-[>+2<-[>+2<-[>+2<-[>-8>+>[->+>+<2]+>>[<2->>[-]]<2[>+<-]>[-<+>]<4-[>+2<-[>+2<-[>+2<-[>+2<[-]]]]]]]]]]<[->+<]>+>[-<+>]>>]<3] < 1359746653 611336 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^reverb verily brevity < 1359746653 797280 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :vveerriillyy bbrreevviittyy < 1359746659 596791 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or not. < 1359746678 545056 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rev obvious? < 1359746678 768066 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :?suoivbo < 1359746679 203296 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1359746685 936980 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rev2 obvious? < 1359746686 123101 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :?suoivbo < 1359746686 597903 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1359746698 131286 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^echo fib < 1359746698 317082 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fib fib < 1359746702 354923 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1359746708 467160 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1359746712 863499 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^show fib < 1359746713 49401 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :>+10>+>+[[+5[>+8<-]>.<+6[>-8<-]+<3]>.>>[[-]<[>+<-]>>[<2+>+>-]<[>+<-[>+<-[>+<-[>+<-[>+<-[>+<-[>+<-[>+<-[>+<-[>[-]>+>+<3-[>+<-]]]]]]]]]]]+>>>]<3][] < 1359746717 411980 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^fib < 1359746717 756806 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.1.1.2.3.5.8.13.21.34.55.89.144.233.377.610.987.1597.2584.4181.6765.10946.17711.28657.46368.75025.121393.196418.317811.514229.832040.1346269.2178309.3524578.5702887.9227465.14930352.24157817.39088169.632459 ... < 1359746777 579505 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^eval < 1359746780 488665 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^eval what < 1359746785 147136 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^show eval < 1359746785 332851 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :()! < 1359746790 95419 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy. < 1359746867 577356 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^show echo < 1359746867 800141 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :>,[.>,]<[<]+32[.>] < 1359747977 777023 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^show < 1359747977 963028 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo reverb rev rot13 rev2 fib wc ul cho choo pow2 source help hw srmlebac uenlsbcmra scramble unscramble asc ord prefixes tmp test celebrate wiki chr ha rainbow rainbow2 welcome me tell eval elikoski list < 1359747987 961164 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The best "eval" ever. < 1359748002 664494 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^show ul < 1359748002 850117 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :>,[>,]<[<]>[<+4[>-8<-]+>-[-7[-2[<+3[>-4<-]+>[<+4[>-5<-]+>[-11[-3[[-]<2[>[-]>+<2-]>>[<2+>>-]+<[->-<3[[>+<-]<]>>[>]]>[->[>]<[[>+<-]<]<2[[>+<-]<]<[[>+<-]<]>>[>]>[[[>]>+<2[<]>-]<2[[>+<-]<]>>[>]>[>]>[<2[<]<[<]<+>>[>]>[>]>-]<2[<]>]>>[[<+>-]>]<2[<]]]<[->>[>]<[[>>+<2-]<]<2[[>+<-]<]>+>[>]+5[>+8<-]+2>-[<+[<]>+[>]<-]]>]<[->>[[<2+>>-]>]<3[[>+<-]<]]>]<[-<[[<]>.[-]>[[<+>-]>]>>[[<+>-]>]<2[<]<2]>>>[[<+>-]>]<2[<]<]>]<[->>[>]<[[>+<-]<]<2[>>>>[>] < 1359748009 41282 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's probably what ^ul used to be. < 1359748029 48291 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i vaguely recall that < 1359748317 388219 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65-183-140-119-dhcp.burlingtontelecom.net QUIT :Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com < 1359748428 174730 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rev foobar < 1359748428 400074 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :raboof < 1359748430 98328 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rev2 foobar < 1359748430 283961 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :raboof < 1359748431 892889 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1359748434 338606 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^show rev < 1359748434 524324 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :>,[>,]<[.<] < 1359748435 332631 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^show rev2 < 1359748435 518369 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :>,[>,]<.<[.<] < 1359748478 906715 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't quite see the point of that. < 1359748537 948223 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rev2 < 1359748620 387554 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rot13 ravine < 1359748620 573180 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :enivar < 1359748625 376293 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rev ravine < 1359748625 562117 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :enivar < 1359748627 823943 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-131-156.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1359748628 893653 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :QED???????? < 1359748856 287800 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-31.elisa.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1359748869 288848 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rot13 QED < 1359748869 475069 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :DRQ < 1359748987 905150 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1359748991 965061 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :pok < 1359749007 174395 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Have you considered /nick Fandom_Hoover < 1359749075 90345 :ineiros!~itniemin@bayesianconspiracy.org QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1359749082 290085 :ineiros!~itniemin@bayesianconspiracy.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1359749133 360934 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Day & Night is the coolest CA imo <-- yes! < 1359749145 818246 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes! < 1359749150 803271 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm glad someone understands me. < 1359749204 889550 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1359749497 545113 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1359750144 40299 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1359750232 946177 :j201!~chatzilla@99.237.20.191 JOIN :#esoteric < 1359750266 426401 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1359750581 50608 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hardest part about Windows development: getting used to the difference between ls and dir < 1359750593 190081 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then getting back to ls again when you're going back to Linux again < 1359750602 262179 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps I should just install a ls for Windows < 1359750763 88049 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ais523: http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?title=1mpr0mp2&curid=3430&diff=35321&oldid=20650 < 1359750795 558638 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION looks
< 1359750802 91564 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha, spam! < 1359750807 152128 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you want me to delete it from recent changes? < 1359750812 140519 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just revert it and block the user? < 1359750823 107858 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah otherwise i'd undone it myself < 1359750850 885759 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, I deleted it from recent changes too < 1359750893 688047 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if it's a bot who beat the CAPTCHA, or a human CAPTCHA solver < 1359750923 780569 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :just install cygwin < 1359750943 28886 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :avoiding cygwin is part of the point of the exercise < 1359750947 609750 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my favorite way to solve CAPTCHAs is to run your own free porn site which is protected by other people's CAPTCHAs < 1359750969 169677 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, it's hard to install cygwin without an internet connection < 1359751088 152247 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know of some C program to use with SDL, to play .NSF (including all expansions) and other formats, with the function to play audio, pause audio, and poke data into the VM? < 1359751088 526754 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1359751092 285771 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :?messages < 1359751092 516633 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf asked 11h 21m 3s ago: What about newtype Foo b s a r = Foo (Either b (s, a -> r)); CodensityAsk (Foo b s a) t? < 1359751554 54471 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn `? `? `? < 1359751558 383249 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1359751560 819602 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? < 1359751564 633511 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1359751565 938583 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? `? < 1359751569 852295 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`? `? `? < 1359751585 634663 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn. < 1359751603 667522 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm wisdom/\`? < 1359751606 883143 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `wisdom/\\`?': No such file or directory < 1359751612 128064 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm wisdom/`? < 1359751615 375644 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1359751854 65062 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sheesh < 1359751895 501039 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert 1934 < 1359751898 707881 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :find: `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/wisdom': Permission denied \ Done. < 1359751914 868927 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? `? < 1359751918 638054 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :See `? for further details. < 1359751924 448482 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat... < 1359751936 831721 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shit. < 1359751964 825209 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run chmod a+r wisdom < 1359751968 375960 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1359751971 847788 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert 1934 < 1359751972 906667 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1359751995 511601 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: that was a nasty effect, do you think i should put the a-r back? < 1359752020 919859 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it breaks hg, it's gregor's fault < 1359752082 650334 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo is smarter than I. it won't answer to its own output. < 1359752101 275331 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :IRC clients don't receive their own output if not sent directly to themself. < 1359752112 328076 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Some servers have an option to make it do anyways, but this is non-standard.) < 1359752127 160180 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Gregor We did chmod a-r wisdom to prevent the rampant nickpinging when people ls'ed it... that apparently made `revert break for things inside it. < 1359752127 611651 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1359752127 978469 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, HackEgo prefixes any message starting with a punctuation mark with a zero-width space. < 1359752142 745196 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well. < 1359752168 602226 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you have rampant nickpinging then it is rather the client which needs to be reconfigured. < 1359752189 218167 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sigh. my feeble plans have been foiled again. < 1359752240 404098 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you send a message to a channel in IRC, you will not receive a copy of the message. If you send directly to yourself, though, then you will receive a copy of the message. < 1359752254 982701 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1359752285 19487 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter PRIVMSG #esoteric :irc clients are responsible for writing out their user's message < 1359752287 823725 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "What it says." >wisdom/"As this directory contains many files named after nicks, listing it in public annoys people. Try `pastewisdom instead. " < 1359752289 38187 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: -c: line 0: unexpected EOF while looking for matching ``' \ bash: -c: line 1: syntax error: unexpected end of file < 1359752292 823862 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1359752310 280577 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`yes < 1359752311 842397 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is the same reason why bots don't know what they've written < 1359752312 28498 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y < 1359752318 40442 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter PRIVMSG #esoteric :but only when they've joined < 1359752333 12312 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "What it says." >wisdom/'As this directory contains many files named after nicks, listing it in public annoys people. Try `pastewisdom instead. < 1359752334 495802 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: -c: line 0: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `'' \ bash: -c: line 1: syntax error: unexpected end of file < 1359752341 791559 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph < 1359752345 167572 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-131-156.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :--You need to close the quote < 1359752351 864972 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-131-156.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "What it says." >wisdom/'As this directory contains many files named after nicks, listing it in public annoys people. Try `pastewisdom instead." < 1359752352 833983 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: -c: line 0: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `'' \ bash: -c: line 1: syntax error: unexpected end of file < 1359752358 188758 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-131-156.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :See < 1359752362 368745 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-131-156.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That worked perfectly < 1359752369 523449 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy < 1359752377 303602 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: my point was to pad it with spaces < 1359752378 705096 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-131-156.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway I'm asleep < 1359752382 121432 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-131-156.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't listen to me < 1359752394 760722 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you shouldn't add that. I think if you have problem with nick pinging that is the client that the user should reconfigure if they don't want that. < 1359752439 800604 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: people don't seem to agree with that. < 1359752454 717266 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "What it says." >wisdom/'As this directory contains many files named after nicks, listing it in public annoys people. Try `pastewisdom instead. < 1359752456 333949 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: -c: line 0: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `'' \ bash: -c: line 1: syntax error: unexpected end of file < 1359752470 575429 :WeThePeople!~WeThePeop@unaffiliated/wethepeople QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1359752476 220089 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm < 1359752498 832056 :j201!~chatzilla@99.237.20.191 QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [Firefox 19.0/20130130080006] < 1359752535 604312 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "What it says." >wisdom/'As this directory contains many files named after nicks, listing it in public annoys people. Try `pastewisdom instead. < 1359752537 189129 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: -c: line 0: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `'' \ bash: -c: line 1: syntax error: unexpected end of file < 1359752545 856972 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo run echo "What it says." >wisdom/'As this directory contains many files named after nicks, listing it in public annoys people. Try `pastewisdom instead. < 1359752547 556760 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :run echo "What it says." >wisdom/'As this directory contains many files named after nicks, listing it in public annoys people. Try `pastewisdom instead. < 1359752575 431973 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "What it says." >wisdom/'As this directory contains many files named after nicks, listing it in public annoys people. Try `pastewisdom instead. ' < 1359752576 862656 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: wisdom/As this directory contains many files named after nicks, listing it in public annoys people. Try `pastewisdom instead. < 1359752584 367579 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls wisdom < 1359752585 888017 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`? \ ? \ ⌨ \ ☃ \ 🐐 \ $1? \ ais523 \ america \ atriq \ atrix \ augur \ banach-tarski \ bike \ boily \ bonvenon \ brain \ brainf**k \ brainfuck \ brick \ burma \ c \ cakeprophet \ california \ category \ claustrophobia \ coffee \ comonad \ coppro \ cyberiad \ devious \ d-module \ egobot \ ehird \ elliot \ elliott \ endofunctor \ endomorphis < 1359752592 396018 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: That is no excuse. If you don't want to follow the protocol, then don't use it. < 1359752623 817223 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: what? there is nothing in the protocol that says people shouldn't be pinged when their nick is mentioned. it is common practice. < 1359752665 201530 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is nothing in the protocol that say people *should* be pinged when their nick is mentioned. If you want to, that is your choice to set up your client configured that way. < 1359752667 452652 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and adjusting it for the behavior of a single bot is unreasonable < 1359752708 324771 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: nickpinging is considered an annoyance on irc. that is a social rule, which is as much a part of irc as the protocol is. < 1359752721 199657 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*excessive nickpinging < 1359752753 380510 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: one of the bots on another channel changes characters for similar-looking ones in order to avoid pinging people < 1359752771 679465 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter PRIVMSG #esoteric :nickpinging is irrelevant to the protocol, it is a setting in your client < 1359752771 866049 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I think that is a bad idea!! < 1359752803 541210 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since it prevents copy/paste from working properly! < 1359752809 245927 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There may be other solutions, though. < 1359752875 248209 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such as use NOTICE messages. That *is* part of the protocol that you should use NOTICE messages to avoid auto-reply. < 1359752992 704734 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, well yes, but most clients don't implement it like that < 1359753027 31086 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then they are not following the protocol correctly. My client does follow the protocol and if yours doesn't, that is not my fault that is your fault. < 1359753029 439104 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :xchat for instance treat a channel notice as something thats highlights you < 1359753047 632588 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, IRC is pretty much based on de facto standards these days < 1359753065 762389 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :most modern IRC stuff is not in any RFC < 1359753092 953403 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :like the 005 ISUPPORT line that tells you what modes and so on the server supports < 1359753095 508993 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "What it says." >wisdom/'As this directory contains many files named after nicks, listing it in public annoys people. Try `pastewisdom instead. ' < 1359753095 734238 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :and how to parse them < 1359753097 263768 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: wisdom/As this directory contains many files named after nicks, listing it in public annoys people. Try `pastewisdom instead. < 1359753105 407767 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :only a de facto standard < 1359753111 27662 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder what's wrong. < 1359753112 365550 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, annoying spaces < 1359753128 207877 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "What it says." >wisdom/'As this directory contains many files named after nicks, listing it in public annoys people. Try `pastewisdom instead. ' < 1359753129 123864 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :IRC has no standard < 1359753129 925202 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: wisdom/As this directory contains many files named after nicks, listing it in public annoys people. Try `pastewisdom instead. : File name too long < 1359753130 788184 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, I got an entire line of spaces at the end of your line and the end of HackEgo's line < 1359753132 172020 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :RFCs are not standards < 1359753137 588771 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are exactly what they say on the tin < 1359753138 588733 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, what the hell is going on < 1359753143 162560 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is no single defined IRC protocol < 1359753145 589505 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Adding additional stuff which is optional, I think is OK though. < 1359753147 7055 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: can't you do this in PM? < 1359753156 492567 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: i'm trying to create a very long filename in wisdom/ to hide the nicks < 1359753166 912528 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...oh wtf < 1359753167 996591 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, okay < 1359753186 737376 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fine, i'm giving up, if people are going to complain in addition... < 1359753201 644551 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :also wtf, nix* should support that length of filenames < 1359753204 493225 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it was more of a suggestion to avoid complaints < 1359753221 902062 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, and just do it in a pm < 1359753231 78160 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, it wouldn't be annoying for you < 1359753235 306626 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: There is no IRC protocol? Why do you say that? I use the IRC protocol. < 1359753242 14090 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it would be less annoying for everyone else < 1359753402 697730 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: There is no standard for the IRC protocol < 1359753464 653358 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: No, it is just that your client doesn't follow the standard. < 1359753476 285822 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Please provide me a copy of the standard < 1359753484 123058 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :as agreed to by implementers of it < 1359753494 304195 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that means that an RFC is insufficient < 1359753499 232213 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :because an RFC does not define a standard < 1359753530 801694 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know it says it doesn't define a standard < 1359753552 51052 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But still, the RFC is what I used to implement the client and the server < 1359753572 769937 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And anyways if you really think there is no standard, then the RFC should be as good as otherwise. < 1359753620 682624 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some others have follow the RFC, too. < 1359753692 340819 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The RFC has SUMMON command but most IRC servers doesn't have such things, is one thing. < 1359753706 952212 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it can be OK if it is not applicable to your computer. < 1359753750 182147 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it is not < 1359753760 506287 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :most implementations of IRC do not follow the RFCs < 1359753763 291862 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i tried some more, and failed for an entirely different reason: `ls wisdom sorts case-insensitively and ignores non-alphanum characters if there are any alphanum ones. so there is no way to get the message _first_. i guess i could pad with AAAAAA to get it nearly first. < 1359753782 325369 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :just hack ls imo < 1359753786 250443 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: I know they don't. But probably they should! < 1359753790 685932 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really < 1359753801 82177 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody follows them because there's a bunch of shit in them < 1359753808 292321 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is [ still lowercase { in irc < 1359753811 225232 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter PRIVMSG #esoteric :if they did, we'd only have up to 9 letter nicks (iirc) < 1359753816 145175 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yes < 1359753819 553227 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1359753839 566297 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo '[{' | iconv -f iso646-fi < 1359753841 305893 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Ää < 1359753845 202897 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is not extensions to the protocol I am complaining about, it is following the standard parts of the protocol wrongly, that I complain about. < 1359753904 468029 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo $PATH < 1359753905 838975 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin:/opt/python27/bin:/opt/ghc/bin:/usr/bin:/bin < 1359753917 500981 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: hm that could actually work :P < 1359753928 808787 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even extensions should follow the protocol as much as it applies, but, it doesn't! Such as the CS and NS commands which don't follow the protocol, it doesn't parse the parameters separated as the IRC protocol says, so that is the kings of things I am saying is wrong. < 1359753963 153084 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ln sl ls < 1359754018 290373 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/kings/kinds/ < 1359754020 291527 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: um i _do_ want ls to work if you don't use it on wisdom you know. which is a bit of a problem; how do you get a shell script to pass its _exact_ arguments to another command? < 1359754050 556191 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if Scotland becomes an independent country, what will their ccTLD be < 1359754058 596051 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run which ls < 1359754060 264684 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/bin/ls < 1359754062 697071 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: $@ I think < 1359754152 796813 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha it's specially magic to work that way < 1359754222 664465 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: .ab for alba of course < 1359754282 39518 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1359754345 659203 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What I mean by following the protocol, is that if both the client and server will send/receive things only according to the protocol, that it should work according to the protocol, and that any extensions follow according to the similar format to avoid confusion, although neither has to accept the extensions, since then it is a extended protocol instead. < 1359754365 967246 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proposed_top-level_domain < 1359754370 670775 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :.vlaanderen is probably the worst of these < 1359754372 481309 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :either that or .gay < 1359754394 129652 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: we had our provincial prime minister visit scotland to help them with their independentist movement. < 1359754396 889556 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :._. < 1359754437 571487 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the hell is .eng supposed to be for... < 1359754448 892724 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it some kind of BNP thing < 1359754452 516312 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I propose some pseudo-TLDs such as .ipv6, .ipv4, .opts, .proc < 1359754487 340835 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.doteng.org/ right < 1359754496 526787 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :poor oppressed english < 1359754516 824937 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what is your opinion of pseudo-TLDs anyways? < 1359754563 307642 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, Proposed internationalized ccTLDs [..] .ελ < 1359754723 213139 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't even know how the BNP feels about the scottish and the welsh < 1359754740 985074 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is the British National Party and not the English National Party < 1359754747 837331 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but don't expect racists to be terribly consistent < 1359754750 308147 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's an english national party too < 1359754752 447431 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not nearly as insane < 1359754753 918984 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just meant, you know, whining < 1359754770 343049 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is .web the TLD equivalent of stumbling upon an AbstractFactoryBuilderManagerWrapperDecorator? can you get *more* vague than .web? < 1359754784 288499 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :.net < 1359754791 614498 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1359754795 537028 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like .africa as well < 1359754799 458066 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know, the country of africa < 1359754802 598907 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :full of poor people and lions < 1359754813 375118 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«.ln and .le - Currently being sold by Dennis Hope's "Lunar Embassy Commission" alongside .lunar, .moon, .venus, .mars, .jupiter, .saturn, .uranus, .neptune, .pluto, .space. People who purchase novelty deeds for outer space property from him are also given free domains.» < 1359754826 204162 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1359754849 569262 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :.le would make for nice French novelty domains. «www.mange-moi.le». < 1359754974 135259 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really like protocol TLDs such as .mobi .web .gopher and so on. < 1359754987 455477 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think they are not what TLDs are for. < 1359755007 624475 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone really use urls as intended, with schemas and all < 1359755008 665195 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pest-control.gopher < 1359755039 714090 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :canada.eh < 1359755041 507887 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I only use them with schemas and stuff like that < 1359755064 443658 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That is, whatever parts are applicable.) < 1359755067 848721 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: lmao at doteng.org < 1359755098 65664 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :England is again being treated as second class to Scotland and Wales - give England parity on the net < 1359755303 727830 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1359755379 292179 :trout!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :constant < 1359755414 958825 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not a Nationalist by any means but this seems yet another case where the 53000000+ inhabitants of England are ignored. We should have the suffix.en. In other respects it's as if inhabitants of England should not have some pride in their Nation or not have the world to know they are an entity and have a voice hopefully for good. < 1359755420 128665 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :great petition < 1359755518 949972 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@fluttershy.pl QUIT :Excess Flood < 1359755528 487111 :TwilightSpockle!codu@codu.org NICK :Gregor < 1359755529 795995 :Gregor!codu@codu.org QUIT :Excess Flood < 1359755542 513243 :Gregor!codu@codu.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1359755566 486753 :Gregor!codu@codu.org NICK :Guest56826 < 1359755912 321088 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls wisdom < 1359755913 978280 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :As the wisdom directory contains many files named after nicks, listing it in public annoys people. Try `pastewisdom instead. < 1359755919 116573 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there you go. < 1359755922 805556 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@fluttershy.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1359755934 456696 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(pretty easy to get around if you really want, of course) < 1359755947 100431 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is .en currently used? < 1359756032 883629 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't think so. < 1359756193 11704 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls wisdom | tr n-za-mN-ZA-M a-zA-Z < 1359756194 302313 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nf gur jvfqbz qverpgbel pbagnvaf znal svyrf anzrq nsgre avpxf, yvfgvat vg va choyvp naablf crbcyr. Gel `cnfgrjvfqbz vafgrnq. < 1359756209 857710 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a rot-13 tr, right? < 1359756210 98673 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: Poulet! < 1359756214 967064 :cuttlefish!~cuttlefis@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1359756216 546614 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1359756221 86131 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIRC there's some crazy golfed way to do rot13 which doesn't work on all punctuation marks < 1359756227 141911 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run /bin/ls wisdom | tr n-za-mN-ZA-M a-zA-Z < 1359756228 404692 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`? \ ? \ ⌨ \ ☃ \ 🐐 \ $1? \ nvf523 \ nzrevpn \ ngevd \ ngevk \ nhthe \ onanpu-gnefxv \ ovxr \ obvyl \ obairaba \ oenva \ oenvas**x \ oenvashpx \ oevpx \ ohezn \ p \ pnxrcebcurg \ pnyvsbeavn \ pngrtbel \ pynhfgebcubovn \ pbssrr \ pbzbanq \ pbcceb \ plorevnq \ qrivbhf \ q-zbqhyr \ rtbobg \ ruveq \ ryyvbg \ ryyvbgg \ raqbshapgbe \ raqbzbecuvf < 1359756232 774010 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/ls < 1359756234 152256 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ if [ "$1" = wisdom -o "$1" = wisdom/ ]; \ then echo 'As the wisdom directory contains many files named after nicks, listing it in public annoys people. Try `pastewisdom instead.'; \ else exec /bin/ls "$@"; \ fi < 1359756241 695722 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls wisdom// < 1359756243 158512 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`? \ ? \ ⌨ \ ☃ \ 🐐 \ $1? \ ais523 \ america \ atriq \ atrix \ augur \ banach-tarski \ bike \ boily \ bonvenon \ brain \ brainf**k \ brainfuck \ brick \ burma \ c \ cakeprophet \ california \ category \ claustrophobia \ coffee \ comonad \ coppro \ cyberiad \ devious \ d-module \ egobot \ ehird \ elliot \ elliott \ endofunctor \ endomorphis < 1359756248 669368 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :DIE < 1359756249 643647 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1359756252 278040 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hey elliott < 1359756256 107437 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm -r wisdom < 1359756257 485387 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: invalid option -- ' ' \ Try `rm --help' for more information. < 1359756261 662824 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what does the second slash do? < 1359756267 704173 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: fool oerjan < 1359756268 607082 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote DIE oh hey elliott < 1359756271 339589 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I see < 1359756271 889832 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :947) DIE oh hey elliott < 1359756274 752287 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: what is the point of that < 1359756277 873612 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's ls that was changed < 1359756278 863739 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: express my rage < 1359756280 355695 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that it works < 1359756290 34587 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm widsom/* < 1359756291 477629 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `widsom/*': No such file or directory < 1359756296 430055 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm wisdom/* < 1359756297 857410 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `wisdom/*': No such file or directory < 1359756301 38263 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop < 1359756301 852487 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls ./wisdom | tr -d a-z < 1359756302 996198 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/bin/ls: cannot access ./wisdom | tr -d a-z: No such file or directory < 1359756307 611345 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls ./wisdom | tr -d a-z < 1359756308 922350 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`? \ ? \ ⌨ \ ☃ \ 🐐 \ $1? \ 523 \ \ \ \ \ - \ \ \ \ \ ** \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ - \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ 8 \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ 4 \ \ \ \ \ \ - \ \ \ \ \ \ \ 19 \ 20 \ 21 \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ ø \ Ø < 1359756325 516558 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo ø | tr -d a-z < 1359756326 483214 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ø | tr -d a-z < 1359756334 559516 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1359756335 541838 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo ø | LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8 tr -d a-z < 1359756336 519059 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ø | LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8 tr -d a-z < 1359756338 913557 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: maybe if all you do in the channel is whine that you are being pinged and mess with bots because of it to show everyone how angry you are you should just... /part < 1359756340 462024 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo ø | LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8 tr -d a-z < 1359756341 758126 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ø < 1359756350 40198 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then you'd not be getting pinged by a channel you don't want to look at. < 1359756366 633936 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :um sometimes he says stuff about that webcomic < 1359756369 897954 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know, the one sgeo likes < 1359756374 516811 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : ais523: fool oerjan <-- i _said_ it was simple. i don't want to do something which breaks an unrelated ls use. < 1359756391 673646 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo ø | LC_ALL=da_DK.UTF-8 tr -d a-z < 1359756392 991933 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ø < 1359756398 999849 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: maybe I should. but you usually are the one to /part this channel in rage < 1359756401 767024 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: right. I think you can normalise the path though. < 1359756402 415320 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so meh < 1359756407 436377 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run LC_ALL=da_DK.UTF-8 locale < 1359756408 911904 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :LANG=en_NZ.UTF-8 \ LANGUAGE= \ LC_CTYPE="da_DK.UTF-8" \ LC_NUMERIC="da_DK.UTF-8" \ LC_TIME="da_DK.UTF-8" \ LC_COLLATE="da_DK.UTF-8" \ LC_MONETARY="da_DK.UTF-8" \ LC_MESSAGES="da_DK.UTF-8" \ LC_PAPER="da_DK.UTF-8" \ LC_NAME="da_DK.UTF-8" \ LC_ADDRESS="da_DK.UTF-8" \ LC_TELEPHONE="da_DK.UTF-8" \ LC_MEASUREMENT="da_DK.UTF-8" \ LC_IDENTIFICATION="da_DK < 1359756414 686426 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :en_NZ? what a country < 1359756439 538544 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, people have commented on HackEgo being set to en_NZ before now < 1359756451 674150 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's because gregor is from new zealand < 1359756455 668058 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: what's that supposed to do with anything / do you not want to associate yourself with elliott / maybe you should leave you're associating with him just by being in here < 1359756507 959564 :RodgerTheGreat!~rodger@71-13-216-83.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1359756510 454562 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: actually, I thought it was normally me who rageparted < 1359756513 19100 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although elliott does it too < 1359756551 481480 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it goes in and out of fashion < 1359756567 619785 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: oh my god your right < 1359756569 369358 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should leave < 1359756582 808067 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :also elliot is a human < 1359756588 169110 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should commit suicide to avoid shame by association < 1359756595 419775 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the worst shame of all < 1359756613 414607 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: you misspelt his name deliberately? < 1359756628 357453 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :im not sure < 1359756653 114990 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunately i can't stick around to see this to its conclusion / prior engagements / bye bye < 1359756656 585247 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1359756686 588874 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-131-156.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? elliot < 1359756688 34980 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No one was ever called Elliot. < 1359756700 95826 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@fluttershy.pl QUIT :Excess Flood < 1359756722 881170 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan: right. I think you can normalise the path though. <-- i don't know how to do that without hunting through more manuals than i have patience for. also it mustn't break if it's actually a flag or something. < 1359756723 307948 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: oh no youre using monqy spelling < 1359756742 854957 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hmm… without knowing the context, I'll guess readlink -f < 1359756746 451495 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: *your < 1359756753 731926 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: no he just removes apostrophes < 1359756764 23249 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :he literally just used apostrophes the last line he said < 1359756777 642933 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ☃ < 1359756779 606740 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​☃ brrr... < 1359756830 39534 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :def method_missing(n, *a, &b); send(methods.min_by { |m| levenshtein(n.to_s, m.to_s) }, *a, &b); end < 1359756839 379513 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: absolutely not. < 1359756853 777296 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: monqy doesn't always use monqy spelling < 1359756870 588093 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: the argument isn't guaranteed to be an actual existing file < 1359756875 785249 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's reserved for specific circumstances < 1359756889 282844 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh, readlink -m then < 1359756908 87850 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or readlink -e if you want the directory it's in to exist < 1359756938 844727 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it would _still_ break if someone just adds a flag in front of the file argument. < 1359756978 188232 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, you'd have to filter out things that started with - < 1359756992 29102 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then someone'd do something like mkdir -; ls -- -/../wisdom < 1359757002 708696 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@fluttershy.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1359757154 9521 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, I think it's probably OK to have an `ls that will stop people listing wisdom by mistake < 1359757167 134098 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'll always be possible to do it intentionally if you really want to < 1359757189 464949 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1359757269 949598 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: so what's the best poison to get rid of housemates i'm sure you're an expert on this. < 1359757292 155442 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I don't think I'd ever attempt to get rid of housemates < 1359757296 533308 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not via poison, at least < 1359757302 728901 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd suggest something non-fatal, anyway < 1359757310 712855 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :how boring < 1359757318 774112 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they'd likely leave and/or press criminal charges upon discovering you attempted to poison them < 1359757321 518784 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suggest using a poison which does not harm the environment or light your house on fire. < 1359757324 907768 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :regardless of whether or not it suceeded < 1359757342 641011 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But first tell them to go away; maybe you need not waste any poison. < 1359757400 220214 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but telling them to go away would be rude! < 1359757458 327375 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`stat wisdom < 1359757459 483685 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ File: `wisdom' \ Size: 4096 Blocks: 8 IO Block: 1024 directory \ Device: 10h/16d Inode: 752131 Links: 2 \ Access: (0755/drwxr-xr-x) Uid: ( 5000/ UNKNOWN) Gid: ( 5000/ UNKNOWN) \ Access: 2013-02-01 21:20:23.000000000 +0000 \ Modify: 2013-02-01 21:20:14.000000000 +0000 \ Change: 2013-02-01 21:20:14.000000000 +0000 < 1359757473 398715 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: poisoning them would probably be ruder < 1359757482 890648 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`stat -c %i wisdom < 1359757484 72776 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :stat: missing operand \ Try `stat --help' for more information. < 1359757485 493506 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you want to get rid of your housemates anyway? < 1359757497 311835 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run stat -c %i wisdom < 1359757498 781804 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :752131 < 1359757506 80959 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because they're occupying the kitchen with theire girlfriend hth < 1359757507 683848 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/ls < 1359757508 847334 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ if [ "$1" = wisdom -o "$1" = wisdom/ ]; \ then echo 'As the wisdom directory contains many files named after nicks, listing it in public annoys people. Try `pastewisdom instead.'; \ else exec /bin/ls "$@"; \ fi < 1359757510 438435 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: oh no, I know what you're doing < 1359757513 300932 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*their < 1359757514 544580 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, in reverse < 1359757520 590810 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought you were planning to `ls wisdom by inode < 1359757528 99978 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than setting ls to reject the inode < 1359757583 85771 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this all seems a bit... overengineered < 1359757603 965490 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know, checking for the trailing / might be overkill < 1359757634 212145 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you could just tell people not to do `ls wisdom < 1359757654 52657 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: every newbie in the channel does it. < 1359757670 146757 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the log paste command again < 1359757671 456430 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not what i call a sustainable policy. < 1359757687 690341 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo -e '#!/bin/sh\nif [ $(stat -c %i "$1") -eq 752131 ]; then echo "As the wisdom directory contains many files named after nicks, listing it in public annoys people. Try `pastewisdom instead."; else exec /bin/ls "$@"; fi' > bin/ls < 1359757690 531499 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1359757692 465826 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1359757693 611824 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/ls: 3: Syntax error: EOF in backquote substitution < 1359757703 350153 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh backquotes work inside "" don't they :/ < 1359757722 576220 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs "`ls wisdom" < 1359757724 172489 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i did the same mistake < 1359757753 853394 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo -e '#!/bin/sh\nif [ $(stat -c %i "$1") -eq 752131 ]; then echo '"'"'As the wisdom directory contains many files named after nicks, listing it in public annoys people. Try `pastewisdom instead.'"'"'; else exec /bin/ls "$@"; fi' > bin/ls < 1359757755 485018 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there the environment variable to check the sender and recipient of the message? < 1359757759 577438 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.28297 < 1359757762 226027 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1359757763 34000 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1359757764 521910 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :stat: cannot stat `': No such file or directory \ [: 2: -eq: unexpected operator \ = 0 \ bin \ canary \ dbg.out \ egobot.tar.xz \ etc \ factor \ factor-linux-x86-64-0.95.tar.gz \ foo \ foo.err \ foo.out \ ibin \ interps \ karma \ lib \ paste \ quines \ quotes \ quotese \ run~ \ share \ test \ wisdom \ zalgo.hs < 1359757778 762009 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/ls < 1359757779 932598 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ if [ $(stat -c %i "$1") -eq 752131 ]; then echo 'As the wisdom directory contains many files named after nicks, listing it in public annoys people. Try `pastewisdom instead.'; else exec /bin/ls "$@"; fi < 1359757790 151144 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1359757793 699626 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs `ls wisdom < 1359757795 869581 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you cannot assume the first argument is a file < 1359757800 385887 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah :/ < 1359757805 328010 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm < 1359757806 598226 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.18708 < 1359757818 421092 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :did that break mine as well... < 1359757829 266694 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo -e '#!/bin/sh\nif [ "$(stat -c %i "$1" 2>/dev/null)" -eq 752131 ]; then echo '"'"'As the wisdom directory contains many files named after nicks, listing it in public annoys people. Try `pastewisdom instead.'"'"'; else exec /bin/ls "$@"; fi' > bin/ls < 1359757832 45603 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1359757834 666564 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1359757835 973742 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[: 2: Illegal number: \ = 0 \ bin \ canary \ dbg.out \ egobot.tar.xz \ etc \ factor \ factor-linux-x86-64-0.95.tar.gz \ foo \ foo.err \ foo.out \ ibin \ interps \ karma \ lib \ paste \ quines \ quotes \ quotese \ run~ \ share \ test \ wisdom \ zalgo.hs < 1359757839 905462 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fffffffff < 1359757858 270590 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what, maybe once in the entirety of december < 1359757861 259828 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh mine works without argument, ok < 1359757875 493430 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run stat -c %i "" < 1359757876 611971 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :stat: cannot stat `': No such file or directory < 1359757880 385566 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run stat -c %i "" 2>/dev/null < 1359757881 527198 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1359757883 640644 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: You can get ls to output inodes. < 1359757885 780994 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i don't know what the problem is then < 1359757889 224006 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about strace ls? < 1359757891 277932 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`strace < 1359757892 746386 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: strace: not found < 1359757907 227743 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls -id -lmkr wisdom < 1359757908 987884 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[: 2: Illegal number: \ 752131 wisdom < 1359757913 301889 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run builtin ls -id -lmkr wisdom < 1359757914 720789 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: line 0: builtin: ls: not a shell builtin < 1359757916 800410 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run command ls -id -lmkr wisdom < 1359757918 508842 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[: 2: Illegal number: \ 752131 wisdom < 1359757918 694691 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run /bin/ls -id -lmkr wisdom < 1359757918 880428 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo -e '#!/bin/sh\nif [ "$(stat -c %i "$1" 2>/dev/null)" = 752131 ]; then echo '"'"'As the wisdom directory contains many files named after nicks, listing it in public annoys people. Try `pastewisdom instead.'"'"'; else exec /bin/ls "$@"; fi' > bin/ls < 1359757919 817129 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :752131 wisdom < 1359757921 801288 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1359757924 272673 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1359757925 577659 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​= 0 \ bin \ canary \ dbg.out \ egobot.tar.xz \ etc \ factor \ factor-linux-x86-64-0.95.tar.gz \ foo \ foo.err \ foo.out \ ibin \ interps \ karma \ lib \ paste \ quines \ quotes \ quotese \ run~ \ share \ test \ wisdom \ zalgo.hs < 1359757926 589676 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So ls -id "$@". < 1359757930 241767 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then compare that against the inode. < 1359757931 192083 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls wisdom < 1359757932 486377 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :As the wisdom directory contains many files named after nicks, listing it in public annoys people. Try `pastewisdom instead. < 1359757932 671971 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems pretty reliable. < 1359757934 935766 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1359757963 908753 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls -id "$@" wisdom < 1359757965 187575 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :752131 wisdom < 1359757985 326408 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-131-156.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1359757996 275051 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run stat -c %i wisdom < 1359757997 893611 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :752131 < 1359757998 541136 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo -e '#!/bin/sh\nif ls -id "$@" | grep -q '^752131 '; then echo '"'"'As the wisdom directory contains many files named after nicks, listing it in public annoys people. Try `pastewisdom instead.'"'"'; else exec /bin/ls "$@"; fi' > bin/ls < 1359758001 659916 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1359758006 264588 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1359758009 170333 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh it _is_ stable < 1359758018 297023 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/ls: 2: Cannot fork \ = 0 \ bin \ canary \ dbg.out \ egobot.tar.xz \ etc \ factor \ factor-linux-x86-64-0.95.tar.gz \ foo \ foo.err \ foo.out \ ibin \ interps \ karma \ lib \ paste \ quines \ quotes \ quotese \ run~ \ share \ test \ wisdom \ zalgo.hs < 1359758024 360322 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :dur < 1359758028 654234 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo -e '#!/bin/sh\nif /bin/ls -id "$@" | grep -q '^752131 '; then echo '"'"'As the wisdom directory contains many files named after nicks, listing it in public annoys people. Try `pastewisdom instead.'"'"'; else exec /bin/ls "$@"; fi' > bin/ls < 1359758031 611661 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1359758035 827579 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1359758037 135594 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​= 0 \ bin \ canary \ dbg.out \ egobot.tar.xz \ etc \ factor \ factor-linux-x86-64-0.95.tar.gz \ foo \ foo.err \ foo.out \ ibin \ interps \ karma \ lib \ paste \ quines \ quotes \ quotese \ run~ \ share \ test \ wisdom \ zalgo.hs < 1359758038 603498 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls bin < 1359758039 936271 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​? \ @ \ ＷＥＬＣＯＭＥ \ addquote \ allquotes \ anonlog \ aseen \ botsnack \ bseen \ calc \ define \ delquote \ emoclew \ etymology \ forget \ fortune \ frink \ gaseen \ google \ h \ ?h \ h! \ hatesgeo \ ?hh \ interp \ joustreport \ jousturl \ json \ karma \ karma- \ karma+ \ learn \ list \ liste \ lists \ log \ logurl \ ls \ lua \ luac \ < 1359758041 53503 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls wisdom < 1359758042 376598 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :As the wisdom directory contains many files named after nicks, listing it in public annoys people. Try `pastewisdom instead. < 1359758047 388037 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i declare this Good Enough < 1359758051 935237 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks all for putting up with it < 1359758149 557463 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls -l . < 1359758151 534356 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :total 36748 \ -rw-r--r-- 1 5000 5000 0 Jan 31 20:36 = 0 \ drwxr-xr-x 2 5000 5000 4096 Feb 1 22:33 bin \ -rw-r--r-- 1 5000 5000 4 Jan 31 20:36 canary \ -rw-r--r-- 1 5000 5000 341112 Jan 31 20:36 dbg.out \ -rw-r--r-- 1 5000 5000 2974360 Jan 31 20:36 egobot.tar.xz \ drwxr-xr-x 3 5000 5000 4096 Jan 31 20:36 etc \ drwxr- < 1359758171 305448 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls ./wisdom/ < 1359758172 752408 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :As the wisdom directory contains many files named after nicks, listing it in public annoys people. Try `pastewisdom instead. < 1359758236 785750 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls wisdom/* < 1359758238 488149 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/`? \ wisdom/? \ wisdom/☃ \ wisdom/⌨ \ wisdom/🐐 \ wisdom/$1? \ wisdom/ais523 \ wisdom/america \ wisdom/atriq \ wisdom/atrix \ wisdom/augur \ wisdom/banach-tarski \ wisdom/bike \ wisdom/boily \ wisdom/bonvenon \ wisdom/brain \ wisdom/brainf**k \ wisdom/brainfuck \ wisdom/brick \ wisdom/burma \ wisdom/c \ wisdom/cakeprophet \ wisdom/cali < 1359758239 147557 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Next patch bash not to do that. < 1359758248 950074 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're worried about noobs doing it why would you care about them finding a way around it < 1359758259 777491 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm with Bike < 1359758275 674248 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1359758290 29221 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially since /bin/ls is still there the same as always. < 1359758300 682194 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just kickban people in a rage like a normal irc channel!! < 1359758563 246577 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1359758655 224967 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1359758725 989695 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously < 1359758726 943069 :Bike_!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1359758874 182182 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :DDR3: trinary memory, the bandwidth increases by 1.5x (compared to binary DDR2 memory) due to using trinary encoding instead of binary < 1359758885 222110 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Can't you just do ls -id wisdom and compare that? < 1359758890 786273 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rather than hardcoding the inode, which might change. < 1359758910 903930 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever < 1359759089 384815 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the original unary DDR memory allowed only the canonical truth to be stored - while both thread-safe and fast, it was somewhat limited in application) < 1359759343 550878 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, trying to find the context to your line about DDR3, but I can't. Did it just start there? < 1359759347 927408 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ECC - European (or Error) Control Central: memory with ECC support reports all errors to the central database in Brussels. Manufacturers of faulty memories are fined appropriately. < 1359759361 782943 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://goto.ucsd.edu/~rjhala/liquid/haskell/blog/blog/2013/01/31/safely-catching-a-list-by-its-tail.lhs/ < 1359759369 655304 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: it started some months ago, dunno when < 1359759372 45913 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Am I going to need to read the prior blog posts to understand this? < 1359759374 458786 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote SDRAM < 1359759375 961011 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :712) the allocation is done by the "Dynamic" in DRAM before that we used SRAM where everything was preallocated in the factory olsner: So what's this SDRAM then? fizzie: synchronized, it's for multithreading < 1359759393 324558 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1359759401 21290 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, and this has been a regular thing since then? < 1359759408 77282 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, this is the second installment < 1359759411 212575 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1359759416 172861 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, what about QDRAM? < 1359759454 690717 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, Quantum DRAM? in layman's terms it's everywhere at once but seldom in your particular computer < 1359759458 9049 :Guest56826!codu@codu.org NICK :TwilightSpockle < 1359759478 594613 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1359759487 24329 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, that is a bit of a bummer then < 1359759500 834758 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, RAMBUS? < 1359759546 140223 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a common myth that QDRAM stands for quad double ram, but that's just silly since that'd be some sort of octaram and ram is already measured in octets < 1359759581 264837 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1359759690 292510 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, actually rambus is not related to memory at all. It is basically sheep herding using large vehicles. < 1359759708 196738 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, the so-called trick question < 1359759759 470927 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :a rambus can either be a bus used for ramming or a bus dressed out as a ram ... both are implements extensively used in sheep herding < 1359759769 537612 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1359759774 705705 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if you believe all this, you're what the germans call RAMMSTEIN < 1359759789 409938 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :that or a sheep herder < 1359759798 93353 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless that's what rammstein means < 1359759815 751991 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, google translate fails that :/ < 1359759823 788706 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, but it *does* detect it as german < 1359759827 726422 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is interesting < 1359759847 930279 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: btw, rammstein is also the name of a well-known german band < 1359759854 135519 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh okay < 1359759865 880292 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1359759868 308193 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, I wouldn't know, I don't listen much to modern music < 1359759879 580868 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :most sheep herders don't < 1359759926 45120 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, are you saying I'm a sheep herder!? Come on, don't insult me. I'm a honest goat owner. I'm not some shady sheep farmer. < 1359759927 32682 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"They took their name (adding an "m") from the location of a German tragedy where 80 people were hurt and killed as the result of a crash during an American Air Force flight show. The literal translation of "ram stein" is a battering ram made of stone." < 1359759939 313236 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: goat are sheep < 1359759948 208015 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, now you are getting worse < 1359759963 629000 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :go tar sheep? < 1359759972 579956 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if you fuck _one_ goat... < 1359759985 456492 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, I prefer using pax to tar < 1359759987 574189 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is posix < 1359759994 806175 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, ask ais < 1359760020 422680 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: but I use pax as a joke :) < 1359760021 821308 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1359760023 335991 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: < 1359760024 892285 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1359760026 414503 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: < 1359760028 336527 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :got there in the end < 1359760030 347415 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, anyway I thought DDR memory was a dancing game, right? < 1359760040 872976 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, so do I < 1359760047 298104 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it stands for "double data rate" as well as "dance dance revolution" < 1359760058 103268 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's clocked on both the rising and the falling clock edge < 1359760069 418512 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, you are wrong. Or so says olsner < 1359760076 84036 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that makes your circuitry so much more complex you only do it if you're trying to squeeze out the last few points of performance < 1359760077 728716 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think DDR memory is called "Ostalgie" these days. < 1359760097 619288 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, did you say what DDR itself meant? You didn't did you < 1359760128 189761 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't, but the memory standard is named from the Deutsche Demokratische Republik ... it took until DDR2 to figure out how to store binary data in the thingies though < 1359760130 411058 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, anyway this whole discussion was a big joke, so thus don't treat it seriously :P < 1359760145 380613 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I don't think I was :) < 1359760281 907707 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, anyway if you are interested, look QDR up, that stuff actually exists. < 1359760296 562267 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I know it exists < 1359760308 422778 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I think ODR exists too. Which is insane < 1359760310 99806 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :from an electronic engineering point of view, I think it's crazy, but see why it might be necessary < 1359760328 296070 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it involves breaking simplifying assumptions that are used pretty much everywhere < 1359760333 975117 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's much harder to reason about such circuits < 1359760335 273984 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, oh? < 1359760340 974610 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example? < 1359760358 596136 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I believe RAMBUS was ODR btw < 1359760375 170572 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"things happen at leading edges only" and "the clock rate is the only thing that determines timing, because timing differences are eaten up by latches" < 1359760385 721965 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't use the standard combinatorial+latches model of the circuit any more < 1359760386 655547 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, apparently the Quadrennial Defence Review was requested as a consequence of the dissolution of the soviets, presumably including the DDR < 1359760389 102936 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah... < 1359760399 311781 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, heh < 1359760421 786144 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ddr wasn't part of the soviet union. sheesh don't you know _anything_. < 1359760438 153507 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(only oppressed by them.) < 1359760494 210100 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I presume you have already seen this, but it seems pretty crazy: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-21193634 < 1359760495 174659 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I don't know anything about Gwleidyddiaeth or any such business < 1359760508 163612 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I've seen that < 1359760530 691851 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, Antigua were given permission to violate a certain amount of US copyrights as compensation for the US violating a trade agreement, or something like that < 1359760541 970611 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, by this logic you could semi-legally move GPL code from US into that country and re-release it as BSD? < 1359760547 111729 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think? < 1359760578 838591 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe not < 1359760581 460877 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: not quite, as far as I can tell there's no way to get a workable downstream license < 1359760589 230296 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm okay < 1359760590 123947 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so Americans wouldn't be able to use the resulting code < 1359760602 187052 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, well okay, what about the rest of the world? < 1359760610 527623 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :not at all, or just not under another license? < 1359760623 121328 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I don't know < 1359760626 503706 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, presumably they could under the original license < 1359760663 691757 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably... otherwise you could just Antiguate all code and make it unusable in the US < 1359760756 70229 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1359760835 85377 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, what the fuck, BBC breaks middle-click-to-open-in-new-tab < 1359760838 69980 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least in chrome < 1359760841 641336 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :utterly annoying < 1359761234 326285 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :can anyone explain the theory behind darcs < 1359761249 928616 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would guess either ais523 or elliott knows where to find out more about it. < 1359761280 203696 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Understanding_Darcs/Patch_theory < 1359761299 784821 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :my knowledge on the subject is a little patchy < 1359761521 408361 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, middle-click works fine in chrome for me. < 1359761550 467010 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...but not on article links. < 1359761564 835970 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :??? < 1359761604 118284 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: no, nobody can < 1359761621 564784 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(AIUI) < 1359761624 166907 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, that's unfair < 1359761626 619720 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's what ais523 would say :) < 1359761641 723156 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellorpal < 1359761647 637757 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hais523 < 1359761654 470256 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: except I replied with a link < 1359761658 339191 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are some good concurrency primitives < 1359761667 211054 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: how primitive do you want? < 1359761676 630512 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mathematically, the mutex is the one we use most often, and we build other things out of that < 1359761687 736189 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you want something practical, compare-and-swap can be more efficient < 1359761697 38367 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it requires some sort of scheduler support if you don't want to busywait < 1359761707 174986 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so basically, high-level or low-level? < 1359761710 923877 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about for coöperative threading < 1359761713 292213 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :high-level and nice < 1359761756 275507 :Bike_!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1359761760 938159 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, with coöperative threading, you don't need any primitives but yield < 1359761766 482982 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're not yielding, you're automatically in a critical section < 1359761814 593628 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, some things could be nice as primitives. < 1359761823 904001 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want to communicate with other threads, for example. < 1359761845 461809 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote what are some good concurrency primitives shachaf: how primitive do you want? < 1359761849 418204 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I was assuming shared memory < 1359761849 603810 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :948) what are some good concurrency primitives shachaf: how primitive do you want? < 1359761870 582613 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :without that, you need some sort of send/receive that can figure out what each other are talking about < 1359761898 487553 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1359761929 17622 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey ais, do you use pi calculus in your academic whatevers? < 1359761957 28322 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shared memory is fine but what sort of variables do you take as primitives? < 1359761978 127308 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: no, but enough other people do that I know it's relevant here < 1359761986 281192 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I recognise it, but don't really reason with it < 1359762013 285081 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kay < 1359762098 977513 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's mostly used in security in my department < 1359762161 414465 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric : ...but not on article links. <-- yeah that is what I tried < 1359762184 772518 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, ais523: thanks < 1359762215 317802 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric : if you want something practical, compare-and-swap can be more efficient <-- what about double compare and swap < 1359762240 528485 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, as in compare a and swap with b, and also compare c and swap with d. IIRC some old Motorola had that < 1359762262 161271 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, compare a with b and swap with c, and compare c with d and swap with e < 1359762264 557041 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously < 1359762275 114386 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: that sounds like an optimization < 1359762307 624017 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, iirc it allow you to do some stuff normal CAS can't do reasonably. Like a wait-free queue. Read about that somewhere < 1359762343 835440 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: atomicity isn't an optimisation < 1359762350 364213 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I think both needs to match for any of the swap to happen? < 1359762374 9340 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well CAS is enough to implement anything < 1359762378 658676 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_compare-and-swap < 1359762383 894914 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it often takes a bunch of commands to do so < 1359762405 830706 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, "One of the advantages of DCAS is the ability to implement atomic deques (i.e. doubly linked lists).[2]" < 1359762406 721035 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1359762425 123129 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sort-of like you can see C as an optimization of brainfuck < 1359762494 18367 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, remember that paper I linked at one point, of that interesting OS that used DCAS amongst other things? < 1359762499 936627 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, do you remember the name of it? < 1359762510 473092 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :some old master thesis iirc? < 1359762517 759990 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :synthesis? < 1359762532 428540 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Synthesis is cool. < 1359762533 584084 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, thanks < 1359762540 786065 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's on whatshername's site < 1359762549 430199 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :valerie... something? < 1359762601 960850 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://valerieaurora.org/synthesis/SynthesisOS/ < 1359762612 15153 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION read it as a .ps version.
< 1359762617 116370 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That HTML version is a bit 90s. < 1359762645 906273 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, i have it as pdf, but it's nice to have html sometimes < 1359762729 373046 :sirdancealot7!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz JOIN :#esoteric