< 1360022404 605336 :augur_!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1360024214 629096 :icarot!~icarot@2600:1010:b11a:9f93:0:24:7144:e201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1360024308 817467 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1360024447 663432 :icarot!~icarot@2600:1010:b11a:9f93:0:24:7144:e201 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know nothing of this channel, but after reading the logs with topic jumps to Russian, logic gates, opaque puns - and who even knows what else - I had to come here. < 1360024466 472999 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome icarot < 1360024468 795173 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :icarot: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1360024475 922671 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :usually I'd expect the logs to drive people away < 1360024522 303659 :icarot!~icarot@2600:1010:b11a:9f93:0:24:7144:e201 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It must have been an unusual log, then. Or maybe it's just me. < 1360024536 789538 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hicarot < 1360024538 572166 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-) < 1360024546 965175 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, oerjan's been messing with intercal for the last twenty minutes < 1360024556 288460 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was intercal? < 1360024556 750369 :icarot!~icarot@2600:1010:b11a:9f93:0:24:7144:e201 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hallo. < 1360024561 341960 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it was just Fueue < 1360024564 256735 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fueue, intercal, same shit < 1360024612 714177 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't messed with intercal for a decade < 1360024627 122365 :icarot!~icarot@2600:1010:b11a:9f93:0:24:7144:e201 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It sounds scary. < 1360024657 820912 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :COME FROM is an integral part of nondeterministic programming < 1360024681 652608 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://oerjan.nvg.org/esoteric/intercal/ < 1360024746 811757 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"please read me a story" < 1360024806 372144 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love oerjan's comments in that program < 1360024812 396490 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also everything else < 1360024816 862746 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :galois field mines < 1360024860 608915 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: have you read it? you should < 1360024885 314154 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ive read parts of it < 1360024887 825026 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's really good < 1360024912 32525 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...are you still talking about my interpreter < 1360024919 364118 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1360024922 289318 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1360024998 239937 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the galois field was nice < 1360025805 619112 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi icarot < 1360025812 713232 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wehlcohme icarot < 1360025815 301459 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihcahroht: Wehlcohme to the ihntehrnahtiohnahl huhb fohr ehsohtehrihc prohgrahmmihng lahnguahge dehsihgn ahnd dehployhmehnt! Fohr mohre ihnfohrmahtiohn, chehck ouht ouhr wihki: http://ehsohlahngs.ohrg/wihki/Maihn_Pahge. (Fohr the ohthehr kihnd ohf ehsohtehrihca, try #ehsohtehrihc ohn ihrc.dahl.neht.) < 1360027353 868161 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1360027403 332708 :Bike_!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1360027411 576431 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1360028248 159872 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1360028252 518552 :sirdancealot!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1360028402 798149 :sirdancealot!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1360028558 69781 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1360028686 976168 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Arc_Koen < 1360031126 199017 :Bike_!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1360031293 192445 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/65/Fucking_map.png < 1360031344 457904 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They should upload a cleaner version... < 1360031359 771293 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah look at those jpeg artifacts in a png :( < 1360031384 919999 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's simplistic enough to be a svg, really < 1360031385 143663 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if there is research into fancy ways of de-jpegifying line art < 1360031444 875376 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://rentheatmap.com/sf.html < 1360032350 647762 :WeThePeople!~WeThePeop@unaffiliated/wethepeople JOIN :#esoteric < 1360032453 607488 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1360032530 340071 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :One area looked really cheap at first but it turned out to be a lake < 1360032535 575293 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wonder if you can rent an apartment on the lake < 1360032577 63708 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing wrong with living in lakes. < 1360032629 833249 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: http://i.imgur.com/uwtBNUf.png < 1360032661 922311 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha. < 1360032672 396601 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :KMC IS TOO DAMN HIGH < 1360032684 622279 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, your nick looks weird in uppercase. < 1360033785 420508 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: haha < 1360033789 884411 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well http://www.lrb.co.uk/v35/n03/rebecca-solnit/diary does talk about "water plots" < 1360033941 366796 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does the "S.A.C." Fieldata code mean? < 1360033971 728639 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :You sure do ask the most random questions. < 1360033980 729269 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot's are even more random < 1360033980 914453 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: more simply put: siod sucks as a general purpose ( similar, and i'd like to see that mystical forest powers, but this time on the impact of the introduction to theoretical computer, fnord of the fnord here, just above me, asked me to do that in the " better" language < 1360033989 370255 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungto: that's not a question.................................................. < 1360033993 958718 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: that's not a question.................................................. < 1360033994 144232 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher ic irc* jargon lovecraft nethack pa speeches ss wp youtube with this jaybad... he is like the punching him? does it involve? doing it the way you would calibrate a normal. pm showed the bq a parking citation. if confronted, you will say you are only here to deliver a message and then i'll put his shit.... w.t.f lol < 1360034023 357889 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: ? < 1360034023 543460 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher ic irc* jargon lovecraft nethack pa speeches ss wp youtube* 54, 55, 56, 57, as bryant still had his glory days ahead of them must have brought it with blood is, he's a total of two conversion rates, in that line, that i have gone totally wanting, and then you can choose fnord, but don't < 1360034029 232547 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: what's going on < 1360034029 418173 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i just wrote :p ( what was i thinking there.... :d < 1360034052 393538 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1360034052 578813 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher fungot* homestuck ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1360034089 978467 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1360034093 111035 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style irc < 1360034093 296495 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: irc (IRC logs of freenode/#esoteric, freenode/#scheme and ircnet/#douglasadams) < 1360034134 221715 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: riddle me a riddle < 1360034152 474419 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: draw me a sheep < 1360034157 680210 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmph. < 1360035452 809635 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua JOIN :#esoteric < 1360035762 390096 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :baaah < 1360035809 278395 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: did you read that book < 1360035825 344065 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which < 1360035838 17148 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :either the one i mentioned the other day < 1360035840 595622 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or the little prince < 1360035853 164930 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably not < 1360035907 648750 :WeThePeople!~WeThePeop@unaffiliated/wethepeople QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1360036406 65063 :trout!root@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :*.net *.split < 1360036406 287566 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1360036406 287726 :Sanky!~SankyZNC@unaffiliated/sanky QUIT :*.net *.split < 1360036621 321680 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1360036799 227720 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1360038769 551844 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-15-143.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1360039230 366958 :RodgerTheGreat!~rodger@71-13-216-83.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com QUIT :Quit: RodgerTheGreat < 1360040523 324163 :icarot!~icarot@2600:1010:b11a:9f93:0:24:7144:e201 QUIT :Quit: leeave() < 1360040537 884814 :icarot!~icarot@2600:1010:b11a:9f93:0:24:7144:e201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1360040838 885105 :icarot!~icarot@2600:1010:b11a:9f93:0:24:7144:e201 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1360041074 632973 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi shachaf < 1360041079 496605 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :shichaf < 1360041088 495815 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rot13 shichaf < 1360041088 681267 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuvpuns < 1360041100 203986 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rot13 sighchaf < 1360041100 389547 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fvtupuns < 1360041104 534044 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rot13 shychaf < 1360041104 719461 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fulpuns < 1360041150 948564 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rot13 fulcra < 1360041151 171275 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shypen < 1360041184 252642 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yhichaf   < 1360041209 524334 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yhishachaf   < 1360041237 631086 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: Reconnecting < 1360041239 438318 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yhelloquintopia < 1360041240 979421 :Bike_!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1360041260 402226 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rot13 yhelloquintopia < 1360041260 587507 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :luryybdhvagbcvn < 1360041274 951587 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rot13 wat < 1360041275 175342 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :jng < 1360041288 458387 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rot13 jpg < 1360041288 643755 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wct < 1360041299 282440 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rot13 png < 1360041299 467870 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat < 1360041321 480406 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :use cat for all your image compression needs < 1360041360 174801 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat oerjan > yhishachaf.png < 1360041373 92775 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought png should be used to compress pictures of cats. < 1360041490 116924 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Good night < 1360041587 547160 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-15-143.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1360041588 901491 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :use cats to compress pictures of pngs < 1360043929 971655 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf was there any context for that < 1360043942 981261 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy for what < 1360043951 163779 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monoids < 1360043960 697704 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy dont cross-post................................................ < 1360043975 32239 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1360043977 955329 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: also im an addict < 1360043982 960934 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you might say im < 1360043988 609975 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1360043991 477945 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought it'd be """""ironic"""""" < 1360043994 687298 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you might say that im talking about < 1360043999 693470 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1360044001 742083 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :addictive monoids < 1360044014 908204 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are addictive monoids? < 1360044026 638418 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a pun, zzo < 1360044031 353873 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monoids that use a + and give you the first hit for free < 1360044033 61920 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a bad pun, shachaf < 1360044040 109492 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :a fun pun, monqy < 1360044070 229079 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: the """""""ironic' part is that i crosspost sometimes?? < 1360044077 191032 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1360044077 940927 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: also why are you reading #haskell but not talking < 1360044083 436522 :Bike_!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1360044086 57834 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes i say something!!!! < 1360044108 222016 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i said something today? maybe??? or was that just yesterday < 1360044127 210319 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :say more things < 1360044134 848672 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"we all appreciate your valuble contributions" < 1360044139 462133 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well at least i do??) < 1360044180 751642 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes today i gave a pointer on "map . map", yesterday I said something about pts, and a while ago it was.....catMaybes? < 1360044191 989819 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ty map . map < 1360044193 613118 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a -> b) -> [[a]] -> [[b]] < 1360044198 653857 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ty traverse . traverse < 1360044200 624886 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Applicative f, Traversable t1, Traversable t) => (a -> f b) -> t (t1 a) -> f (t (t1 b)) < 1360044219 928897 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ty (=<<) . (=<<) < 1360044221 576442 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monad m => (a -> m b) -> m (m a) -> m b < 1360044225 442460 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ty foldMap . foldMap < 1360044226 940115 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Foldable t1, Foldable t, Monoid m) => (a -> m) -> t (t1 a) -> m < 1360044237 569721 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good signatures? < 1360044237 818199 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :cóóincidence? < 1360044247 549342 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ty foldl . foldl < 1360044249 199137 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a -> b -> a) -> a -> [[b]] -> a < 1360044265 207686 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: edwardk has been doing """awful things with these signatures < 1360044273 619311 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how awful < 1360044279 339464 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpp hacks awful < 1360044286 489429 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's pretty awful < 1360044287 866056 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and rewrite rules/? < 1360044294 38669 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's pretty awful too < 1360044305 912105 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and making performance changes with no benchmarks < 1360044338 4353 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@91-145-118-87.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1360045471 199949 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: would it be better if i quit monoids < 1360045512 123030 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably < 1360045779 7939 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :CPP is bad for Haskell due to the different comment syntax and the different use of apostrophes, and the different use of a backslash for line endings. < 1360046501 493035 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :foldMap all the way down < 1360046546 130431 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I kind of wish Foldable required Functor. :-( < 1360046592 999500 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I heard you like maps, so i put a Functor in your Functor so you can fmap while you fmap. < 1360046772 862814 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But there might be some data types which can be foldable but not functor? (such as some GADTs) < 1360046802 913936 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, maybe GADTs are a good counterargument? < 1360047307 471432 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Foldable could be made to be defined in terms of toList; and I think there is a free theorem which makes it equivalent (specifically, that [] is a free monoid, which makes it a backward monoid transformer). < 1360047521 510874 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you think I am correct? < 1360047676 557838 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not very good to define Foldable in terms of toList < 1360047683 20802 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :since you lose tree structure < 1360047849 819638 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But Foldable is forced to lose tree structure anyways due to associativity of monoids. < 1360047946 272529 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but part of the reason it's so nice is that you can rely on the balancedness of it when folding e.g. a tree < 1360047953 880002 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you have, say, a monoid you use for searching for something in a tree < 1360047980 975387 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :then a toList based version will have worse asymptotic performance < 1360048030 44525 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that can be a good reason not to define a Foldale instance in terms of toList. But that doesn't mean it is not mathematically equivalent. < 1360048771 350782 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1360051344 926251 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe the math should be made to include performance complexity things < 1360051365 738159 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :psh, engineer < 1360051373 457797 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :'a':"b" as not equivalent to "a"++"b" despite the same result < 1360051389 80386 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait why not < 1360051485 606643 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Presumably there should be language support, time and space complexity in the types < 1360051485 792002 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea how this would work though < 1360051658 724554 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you talking about < 1360051726 511442 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to be preventing from writing foo x = length x while accidentally assuming that foo x has O(1) time complexity < 1360051735 36617 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want the type checker to catch that < 1360051752 258297 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And only successfully type check if I state that it has O(n) time complexity < 1360051763 864198 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow that sounds really weird < 1360051769 880878 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like really incredibly what < 1360051872 103034 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prevent people from misunderstanding the time and space complexity of the algorithms they use < 1360051889 324381 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So if something needs to run fast, they can be assured that it will run the way they expect < 1360051893 777745 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haven't you heard cache locality makes O times obsolete < 1360051947 514373 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: you realise "a" ++ x and 'a' : x have the same time complexity right < 1360051953 79838 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just really tiny different constant factors < 1360051962 80225 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and optimised away completely by any half-decent compiler < 1360051970 832717 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah what is that even, i'm confused < 1360051977 294328 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, hmm, ok < 1360051982 12590 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bad example < 1360051995 846797 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's frickin haskell, optimize that shit < 1360054137 241056 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: warning < 1360054354 555631 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1360054398 250523 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1360056840 927274 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1360058104 701056 :Sanky!~SankyZNC@unaffiliated/sanky JOIN :#esoteric < 1360058723 622512 :SimonRC!~sc@fof.durge.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1360058739 518987 :SimonRC!~sc@fof.durge.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1360058775 989371 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1360059603 56824 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1360062054 566597 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :size_t strlen(char const*) __attribute__((DUDE_MOVE_THIS_OUT_OF_YOUR_LOOP_HEADER)) < 1360062832 661155 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :__attribute__ ((optimize ("inline-small-functions", "inline-functions"), always_inline, inline_or_i_kill_you)). < 1360063121 842182 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1360065388 458210 :asiekierka_!~asiekierk@fluttershy.pl QUIT :Quit: ZNC - 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"W-will you... Will you union me?" < 1360072644 771076 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1360072675 142741 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello people < 1360072907 960091 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1360074963 970274 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: hi! < 1360076890 472916 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So much for not allowing myself to use the computer until noon < 1360076919 201453 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its ok < 1360076920 553377 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its 15:08 < 1360076960 880523 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not ok, it's 10:08. < 1360076997 451948 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry about your incorrect timezone < 1360077031 516707 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@globaltime < 1360077035 967578 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for shachaf is Tue Feb 5 07:10:31 2013 < 1360077039 982680 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :∎ < 1360077040 786926 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1360077050 707194 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the Global Time™ < 1360077068 702788 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@globaltime < 1360077071 387039 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for boily is Tue, 05 Feb 2013 10:11:09 -0500 < 1360077222 685984 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my Globolocaltime© is better than yours :p < 1360077240 646738 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I get three more hours every day... < 1360077705 683911 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"and then, if you have a class which mixes in these traits, there are special rules which impl wins, depending on the order of the mixins" < 1360077710 83977 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Give me Ada please < 1360077728 662035 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION retreats back into the safety of a language that's supposed to make no assumptions
< 1360077798 41438 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION pellets Sgeo with tidbits of PHP, just to keep him insane enough
< 1360077799 516174 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Sgeo < 1360077807 643571 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you like Ada after all? < 1360077825 556502 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still don't know Ada < 1360077847 883199 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it gave me a taste of disliking when languages make assumptions and the programmer has to guess at what it will assume < 1360077896 695062 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should learn it a bit. < 1360077909 409232 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's hardly fair to use it as an argument against other languages when you don't know it. < 1360078188 383530 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know 1<2 and 2>0 or 3<4 is invalid < 1360078190 328782 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1360078225 671644 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1360078229 971151 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know how it's case-insensitive? < 1360078266 334182 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I do. Makes sense though. < 1360078347 796270 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi quintopia < 1360078351 698498 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi boily < 1360078714 922619 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1360079770 775205 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"languages make assumptions and the programmer has to guess at what it will assume" < 1360079773 879302 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that < 1360079774 885690 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :every language < 1360079786 314550 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :except that you shouldn't "guess" you should understand < 1360079792 175772 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Every language but Ada. < 1360079799 976697 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :every language but sgeolang? < 1360079834 516278 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is no language but Ada and Sgeo is its prophet. < 1360079846 779697 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly < 1360080453 853970 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db4eba2.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1360080545 362965 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@sabis.ru JOIN :#esoteric < 1360080607 783731 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db4eba2.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fiat lux < 1360080986 432174 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db4eba2.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it even works. they finally managed to put me back online. i didn't even notice i haven't payed payed my electricity bills for months < 1360081070 51375 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db4eba2.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe because i always pay once a year. but they seemed to change their policy.. and they have good argues < 1360081292 885904 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-207-105.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1360081837 430790 :hagb4rd2!~perdito@koln-5d81e472.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1360081868 69491 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db4eba2.pool.mediaWays.net QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1360081873 502980 :hagb4rd2!~perdito@koln-5d81e472.pool.mediaWays.net NICK :hagb4rd < 1360082503 835758 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"So, unless first-class modules are something you get excited about, or you need Java interop for something, Scala isn't really worth the effort if you're already using Haskell, except as another excuse for broadening your experience of languages." < 1360082514 142635 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :First-class modules ARE something I get excited about! < 1360082557 733629 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you need to work with other people or with existing code, Scala isn't worth the effort < 1360082576 548781 :sirdancealot!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1360082593 318305 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but a singular Haskell Genius can replace any code or person in O(1) time so it's fine < 1360082629 687945 :sirdancealot!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1360082658 894953 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: can a haskell genius replace himself? < 1360082694 786319 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in O(0) time < 1360082714 363993 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scala's delimited continuation stuff in and of itself is interesting to me < 1360082719 444571 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :More-so than a Cont monad < 1360082792 643216 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't even know it has that < 1360082801 278318 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it also has subtyping < 1360082814 700729 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i find subtyping kind of gross, but i don't think it's wrong in principle for someone to find it interesting < 1360082824 182827 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or "exciting" in words of the OP < 1360082844 172516 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still haven't grokked the Cont monad. perhaps because I haven't seen it yet used in the wild. < 1360082916 539460 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been trying to figure out subtyping recently. < 1360082940 754953 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bet it could be really good. < 1360082974 247912 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, I think this is utterly awesome https://github.com/urso/embeddedmonads < 1360083023 334740 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1360083382 875854 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: isn't it great that my org.cups.sid cookie is sent to every other localhost: app i visit? < 1360083423 595988 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How many localhost apps is kmc using? < 1360083429 258952 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a few < 1360083460 385158 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Cookies are shared between ports? < 1360083467 842576 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently < 1360083486 535524 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assumed they weren't, like JavaScript cross-domain things aren't. < 1360083490 383748 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I guess I'm wrong. < 1360083498 470469 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you investigating cupsd? < 1360083498 656537 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :never assume two Web security rules are consistent < 1360083502 10758 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or one rule between browsers < 1360083502 658481 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1360083513 697874 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just noticed that the CUPS cookie keeps getting sent to the Django webapp I'm developing < 1360083525 230973 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1360083530 202945 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION sighs.
< 1360083543 243182 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: On the other hand, most people never visit their localhost cups server. < 1360083572 965755 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which means that when you want to try to CSRF it, you can just connect and have it choose the cookie based on time()! < 1360083599 143288 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should report that. < 1360083606 769392 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And also the several other issues I've found. < 1360083621 725435 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1360083623 12178 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :do it < 1360083634 119585 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I still have a file with various notes in it. < 1360083674 505613 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :full-disclosure@ < 1360083675 321651 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1360083677 450947 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the lazy option < 1360083681 567328 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1360084159 173508 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi. < 1360084280 16326 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :holsner < 1360084298 233138 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you considered changing your name to olster? < 1360084424 922659 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1360084451 831473 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :when I get old I might change it to oldster < 1360084512 374413 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81e472.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :getting old is easy < 1360084553 394046 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could move to northern ireland and change it to ulster < 1360084580 852448 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't ireland full of IRA and terrorists? < 1360084634 375542 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't IRA terrorists? < 1360084652 533443 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-207-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some of them are < 1360084664 223764 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-207-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some of them are also "serious" "politicians" < 1360084684 216068 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81e472.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they seem not have enough options for enemies on that island.. so they just get down to kill each other < 1360084730 422827 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81e472.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean wan't that a conflict between catholics and protestants? (originally) < 1360084754 246551 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81e472.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, thank god they found a reason < 1360084813 782199 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81e472.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's human nature. if there were no problems we would have to invent them < 1360084828 659196 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure to what degree it's actually a religious conflict and to what degree it's a conflict between two communities who happen to have different religions < 1360084849 647397 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't it mostly about whether to be part of the UK or not < 1360084858 928136 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81e472.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it's not religious at all < 1360084862 196030 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a common fallacy though < 1360084864 468482 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81e472.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it was once < 1360084877 494500 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :americans tend to assume that the arab-israeli conflict is some millenia old religious conflict < 1360084888 877201 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they don't understand how much of it dates back only to 1948 < 1360084937 274694 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1360084953 911780 :TwilightSpockle!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um, wut? Not all of us are that stupid. < 1360084960 92400 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81e472.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they fight for jerusalem since the city was founded < 1360084972 874999 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81e472.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it < 1360084973 808317 :TwilightSpockle!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :We decided it would be pretty cool to oust a bunch of people from their homes and move people of a conflicting religion in, then just sort of leave it and laugh from the sidelines. < 1360084978 130449 :TwilightSpockle!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Definitely a recipe for success. < 1360084984 306335 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :TwilightSpockle: i said "tend to" not "all americans believe this only" < 1360085003 36736 :TwilightSpockle!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Although really we didn't "oust" them so much as they self-ousted when it was obvious that we fully intended to oust them) < 1360085207 102433 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i disagree that it's a 'conflicting religion' though, except in specific cases like the temple mount < 1360085217 477713 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :jews and muslims live together peacefully in many parts of the world < 1360085222 558095 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-50-175.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1360085231 65212 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81e472.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yess.. back then, the reasons for the conflict might have been "constructed" and instrumentalized.. but after all that blood was shed, it is a real conflict.. you can't tell who started it, and maybe you're not even interested since your beloved once got killed by a bomb at breakfast on sunday morning < 1360085235 531232 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :places where the communities coexist organically rather than one being installed by force and then subjugating the other < 1360085237 814110 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-50-175.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1360085237 999439 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1360085250 582317 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hagb4rd: yeah < 1360085282 436794 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, TwilightSpockle is indeed who I thought it was < 1360085288 166818 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Don't matter who did what to who at this point. Fact is, we went to war, and now there ain't no going back. I mean, shit, it's what war is, you know? Once you in it, you in it. If it's a lie, then we fight on that lie. But we gotta fight." < 1360085322 551334 :TwilightSpockle!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who else would I be? < 1360085323 23989 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1360086140 555261 :hogeyui!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1360086499 254276 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1360086547 694144 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1360086557 32633 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1360086695 841391 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1360086882 182948 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1360086892 868979 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1360086953 148140 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://t.co/adQRhvXD < 1360087587 840898 :hogeyui!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz JOIN :#esoteric < 1360087665 615878 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81e472.pool.mediaWays.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1360088140 913254 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1360088601 217127 :sirdancealot!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1360088648 808957 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1360089092 268130 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1360089408 386061 :sirdancealot!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1360089893 521674 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1360090001 66916 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: According to W|A, "F/NaN C" is "69 755 K^2/nAn (kelvins squared per nanoan) (with temperatures converted to kelvins)". < 1360090232 808696 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Apparently "an" is a unit of electric current, with 1 An = 0.1602177 A = 0.01602177 emus of current.) < 1360090257 580009 :TwilightSpockle!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :"emus of current"? < 1360090261 201979 :TwilightSpockle!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are those the kind that kick? < 1360090271 705395 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :TwilightSpockle: "unit officially deprecated", sadly. < 1360090285 770705 :TwilightSpockle!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damn! < 1360090294 463146 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aren't miles officially deprecated too? < 1360090303 629840 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1360090317 283857 :TwilightSpockle!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :They can take our furlongs and fortnights, but how DARE they take our emus. < 1360090364 547054 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think we still have fortnights TwilightSpockle...................................... < 1360090392 340349 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is emu from cgs? < 1360090396 311253 :TwilightSpockle!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that ellipsis indicates that you paused for a fortnight... < 1360090403 204348 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Apparently so. < 1360090408 306444 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"ElectroMagnetic Unit". < 1360090430 165037 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The EMU unit of current, biot (Bi), also known as abampere or emu current, --" < 1360090432 567319 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cgs is wacky < 1360090447 930104 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cgs units have different dimension from SI units for ostensibly the "same quantity" < 1360090493 652191 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :something something permittivity of free space something intro physics pass/fail < 1360090502 354980 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1360090544 391407 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Furthermore, within CGS, there are several plausible choices of electromagnetic units, leading to different unit "sub-systems", including Gaussian, "ESU", "EMU", and Heaviside–Lorentz. Among these choices, Gaussian units are the most common today, and in fact the phrase "CGS units" is often used to refer specifically to CGS-Gaussian units." < 1360090551 902150 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It sounds all very sensible and wise. < 1360090571 623411 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i think i mean gaussian cgs < 1360090585 113495 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever Purcell, Electricity and Magnetism uses < 1360090587 578962 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do I always use the royal we when describing how my code works, in, say, a comment? < 1360090593 408551 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the fact that measuring the electric constant doesn't count as an experiment any more. < 1360090599 528913 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am turning into Oleg < 1360090607 589395 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: common practice in academic writing < 1360090610 822124 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, why do you expect us to introspect for you? < 1360090634 1229 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"We" is somewhat unroyal in any paper with more than one author, though. < 1360090636 553356 :stuntaneous!~stuntane@c211-30-196-14.artrmn3.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1360090656 807284 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i usually use either the academic 'we' or imperative statements with no subject ('// frob the woznitzes') < 1360090673 312736 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll use 'I' when I'm talking specifically about me, rather than a notional reader or executor of the code < 1360090683 922662 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what pronoun do a group of royals use to refer to themselves? < 1360090691 903265 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so things like "// I couldn't make this work" or "// I have no idea why this is so fucked" < 1360090695 107549 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even if there's just one guy doing all the work, and a couple of bureaucratic supervisors tagging their names on it, there's still nominally a group to talk about. < 1360090775 103042 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Maybe they use the "royal I", then. < 1360090786 121903 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1360090789 993059 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't think of that < 1360090791 535323 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :clever < 1360090796 369203 :TwilightSpockle!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ha < 1360090904 509270 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh god why am I watching Star Trek bloopers bloopers ruin the magic < 1360090909 26704 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Academic "we" = "the author and the reader" < 1360090913 35352 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing royal about it. < 1360090917 767645 :TwilightSpockle!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um, no? < 1360090921 754168 :TwilightSpockle!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Academic "we" = the authors. < 1360090939 458341 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or author. < 1360090940 404407 :TwilightSpockle!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And potentially non-author members of the research team. < 1360090951 62194 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess "we show that ..." doesn't really work with my interpretation. :-( < 1360090954 910810 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgspzYMdqdc < 1360090999 556798 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Arguably the reader is such an integral part of the whole publication process, the use of "we show" is justified, in that the reader is also participating "in spirit". (At least if you really like to argue.) < 1360091002 201696 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :those edits are all i know of tng < 1360091024 228429 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a... skewed perspective on it < 1360091045 808424 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't really find any non-W|A sources for the unit "an", the symbol of which is "An". It's not a terribly googleable word. < 1360091069 832685 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :war comes to long an < 1360091074 442881 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Suddenly I'm nostalging for a location in Active Worlds that I have not managed to find in a long time < 1360091202 4470 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: If you do find any, let this guy know: http://www.unc.edu/~rowlett/units/index.html < 1360091218 95490 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm… an emu is a dekaämpere? < 1360091270 485752 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1360091351 808866 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: did you spontaneously and from your own free will use a diaeresis on an english word? < 1360091380 370208 :TwilightSpockle!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: You must be new here. (OK, you're not, but the point stands) < 1360091408 186414 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, man i used to use them all the time < 1360091422 605290 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then i changed computer and i couldn't work out how to set the compose key < 1360091423 527113 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, the only place I see them are in the New Yorker. < 1360091453 14997 :TwilightSpockle!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: setxkbmap -option compose:ralt < 1360091468 408 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: don't listen to him. setxkbmap ca -variant multix < 1360091516 249920 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1360091521 267576 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: it's a meme in this channel < 1360091529 435743 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to use diareses in every context in which they even remotely fit < 1360091544 715918 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although sometimes we forget < 1360091552 446308 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :äïs523: now I see. < 1360091557 378344 :TwilightSpockle!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Y'know you're just using the diaeresis MARK, right? Diaereses are there whether you indicate them or not. < 1360091593 437538 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :äïs̈ < 1360091633 835759 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway I use diæreses in English for words like coöperation even outside of this channel. < 1360091637 462726 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's common sense! < 1360091646 142670 :TwilightSpockle!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do too. < 1360091664 746934 :TwilightSpockle!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a sign on my cubicle that reads “Noöne appreciates diaeresis marks.” < 1360091667 890512 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :c�mm�n sense < 1360091684 419674 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :TwilightSpockle: that's a good one. < 1360091691 839228 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: diaeresis marks don't work like that < 1360091707 137451 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although come to think of it, shouldn't it be diäeresis? or am I pronouncing it all wrong? < 1360091718 857753 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: An abampere (i.e. the emu-cgs biot) of current going around in a circle with a radius of one centimetre produces a macnetic field of 2pi oerjans... I mean, oersteds at the center. < 1360091730 254529 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There seems to be no shortage of units, fortunately. < 1360091767 858932 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: except it doesn't, because in order to get current to flow in a circle you need it to use a superconductor, and those act weirdly wrt magnetism, IIRC < 1360091787 850547 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the standard experiment is that if you make a coil of superconductor, and put a magnet inside it < 1360091789 644212 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it won't fall < 1360091795 318423 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because if it did, it would generate an infinite amount of heat < 1360091820 329731 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1360091823 318122 :TwilightSpockle!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Well there go my plans on destroying the universe :( < 1360091867 485032 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in practice, typically it falls but very slowly, as the magnet itself interferes with the superconductivity) < 1360091898 592518 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :strangely, I have a hunch that destroying the universe bmayo be easier than hacking egobot. < 1360091918 419113 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh. stupid attributes. c07test < 1360091961 877125 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-50-175.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1360091973 849351 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-50-175.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1360091974 71917 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1360092031 191759 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i agree with boily < 1360092096 216210 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"bmayo" < 1360092103 196514 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you know a tv show whose theme goes like 29219...........29219.6......... < 1360092105 480160 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you sending nonstandard color codes? < 1360092159 5052 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: they were working an hour ago in another channel, following weechat's doc. no idea why they insert spurious chars here. < 1360092169 163428 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :one symbol per beat and number n means C*440*2^(n/12) hz < 1360092173 679742 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :12another test that shouldn't work. < 1360092174 451932 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :was the other channel on another server? < 1360092183 137444 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and was it -c? < 1360092184 668036 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, and it just worked here. < 1360092195 22059 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is ctrl-c, then c, then a number. < 1360092209 657893 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :4,4hi monqy < 1360092218 802077 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oops. < 1360092244 56190 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, as I was saying, destroying the universe bmayo be easier than hacking egobot. < 1360092247 256250 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAARGH! < 1360092253 534792 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbold < 1360092269 930507 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: W|A said 1 An = 0.1602177 A, and CRC Handbook says 1 eV = 0.1602177 aJ, it might be relevant. (Still, the handbook doesn't know anything specific about the an, while it does know about biots and emus of current.) < 1360092280 751885 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :may be easier < 1360092287 841922 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: thanks. < 1360092345 278840 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is this a bad thing to say to a recruiter < 1360092346 267133 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I don't entirely understand why the r�sum� must be a Word document. I wrote my r�sum� using LaTeX, and it thus only exists as a LaTeX document and as a .pdf. I can attempt to convert it into Word, but am not entirely sure of the purpose." < 1360092352 550535 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1360092382 585654 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: some recruiters like word documents because they have automated software to extract practical infos from them. < 1360092408 851348 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, might a converted document break those? < 1360092445 56743 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: W|A also thinks you can say "1 au of electric current", to mean 6.62362 mA; the "hydrogen atom ground state current". Something that units page also doesn't list. (Although for that there are a few other hits here and there.) < 1360092452 177479 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably. I'm an engineer, not a recruiter. < 1360092895 124510 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1360092947 803282 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh, attached both slopily converted .doc and nicer .pdf < 1360092955 355648 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not especially interested in that job anyway < 1360092977 948927 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Java, PHP, Perl, and Node.js < 1360092988 555760 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Node.js is the only one of those I can see myself tolerating < 1360093020 769938 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about Ada? < 1360093025 887870 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bet there are lots of good Ada jobs. < 1360093051 459250 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :An "Ada job" must be some kind of a slang term for a sex act. < 1360093063 325263 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Searching LinkedIn for Ada gets.... weird results < 1360093068 609532 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Health & Wellness - Return to Work Specialist < 1360093072 428086 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Building Manager at United Palace NY � Cultural Arts Center / Church < 1360093088 966523 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There seem to be more Scala jobs than Clojure jobs. I don't know why. < 1360093096 705162 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess Scala has easier interop with Java? < 1360093147 632035 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's probably a better language. < 1360093407 394005 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Java is very nice. I was afraid of its ecosystem, and had to learn the language very fast last year for oncoming projects. < 1360093430 501755 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was reluctant at first, but now it is a very nice asset to know how to code in it. < 1360093638 216439 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. admitting you like java in this one channel may have been a major social faux pas. < 1360093643 180037 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well. < 1360093734 363126 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :too mainstream? < 1360093745 57562 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: not pointlessly difficult enough < 1360093817 301396 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-207-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Commons backs gay marriage bill" "RBS Investment bank head to quit" "Laundries 'product of harsh Ireland'" < 1360093823 790758 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-207-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clearly these headlines are connected < 1360093930 908454 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Java is okay, its conceptual basis is pretty clean and simple < 1360093979 508597 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they kind of stopped short of building a full language around those ideas < 1360093996 47931 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :C# is better in this regard < 1360094119 691870 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wouldn't call the language "very nice" but i agree that it's an asset to know it < 1360094604 604400 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i guess you didn't < 1360094669 27379 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: nice, in the sense that it is predictable, consistent, and utterly boring. which means that I can get my job done, and not think about it afterwards. < 1360094675 751731 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah exactly < 1360094684 664310 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is also why businesses like it < 1360094701 67964 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for building huge business software, using hundreds of programmers as replaceable parts < 1360094879 173708 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess my ideal language, the one that I dream of, would be a cross between java and python: statically typed like the first, and sane like the latter. < 1360094918 463617 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :being statically typed "like java" is pretty far from ideal < 1360094933 872272 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :covariant arrays, anyone < 1360094946 504797 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: what bout "like eiffel" < 1360094957 241896 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've heard things about that < 1360094966 192179 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :function arguments being covariant right < 1360094985 960710 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah java's type system is pretty weak sauce < 1360095013 181504 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :19:58 they treat function arguments as _co_variant < 1360095013 366946 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :19:58 oh man, dolio's head just about exploded when he learned about that < 1360095016 190262 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :19:58 tey don't really grok the whole contravariance thing < 1360095018 665077 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :19:58 How does that work? < 1360095021 175882 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :19:58 it doesn't < 1360095023 680164 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :19:58 trust me < 1360095024 41475 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1360095026 220575 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that's the quote i heard < 1360095033 899005 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh did elliott paste it to you < 1360095038 374860 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably < 1360095050 848309 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could just join #haskell-lens.......... < 1360095060 122443 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've been considering it < 1360095090 937884 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :do it < 1360095100 949909 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::0 < 1360095102 416869 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :just don't be too loud or edwardk might give you "commit access" < 1360095164 517325 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: did you know #-lens once had "more users than #esoteric" < 1360095165 237320 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: java's staticity is weak, but I prefer a little bit of challenge to plain perfection. besides, with something stronger like haskell's I'd be way too much distracted doing fun stuff instead of working. < 1360095189 436363 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i've heard < 1360095233 353548 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I cleared my /ignore list for #haskell and the channel has become markedly worse. :-( < 1360095248 935993 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1360095419 741359 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1360095581 129214 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how big was it before? < 1360095624 56603 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"function arguments are contravariant" is pretty much the whole thing that makes variance work < 1360095661 503629 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, Java's problem is more being excessively sane, than insufficiently sane < 1360095669 440954 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :except in the libraries, those are really badly designed in parts < 1360095700 282876 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eiffel allows covariant return and parameter types in overriding methods. This is possible because Eiffel does not require subclasses to be substitutable for superclasses — that is, subclasses are not necessarily subtypes. < 1360095764 907835 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't think of any use for a covariant parameter to a function < 1360095769 18300 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have any examples? < 1360095789 804450 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know much about Eiffel. < 1360095793 730041 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That was a Wikipedia quote.) < 1360095802 404503 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently they do a lot of runtime checks? < 1360095979 248547 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1360097023 428018 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell zzo38 CodensityAsk reminds me of type MendlerAlgebra f c = forall a. (a -> c) -> f a -> c (except that it's different) < 1360097023 887492 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1360097177 939574 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh god I'm drafting my blog post and it's starting to look like an essay < 1360097187 780384 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's taking paragraphs for me to get to my point :( < 1360097197 186091 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-207-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( :( < 1360097232 270853 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-207-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, I wrote an essay about how Ook! is the only half-decent brainfuck derivative, and published it under a nom de somebody else < 1360097280 627208 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :nom de phanton hoover? < 1360097303 94549 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-207-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Precisely < 1360097306 364994 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-207-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well < 1360097310 451600 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-207-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roughly < 1360097322 396235 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :photon hover < 1360097410 583412 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: should i know things about galois connections < 1360097411 781117 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net < 1360097449 30033 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1360097471 465900 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i know things about galois connections.........i have my reasons < 1360097479 828308 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: what are the things you know < 1360097483 182576 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what are the reasons < 1360097490 760670 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and do you know things about adjunctions too?????? < 1360097493 16186 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a secret < 1360097499 908336 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :forget i said anything < 1360097502 514078 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: no don't make it a secret < 1360097504 338155 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a galois connection < 1360097505 847432 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"tell me instead" < 1360097659 975433 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: :'( < 1360097663 161155 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why won't you tell me < 1360097983 20086 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1360098089 976997 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, you don't want to know < 1360098099 65973 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are some things man were not meant to know < 1360098137 104348 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes i do.......................................................................... < 1360098138 933262 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of those concerns galois connections. < 1360098148 206778 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1360098150 55995 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is a dark secret < 1360098163 110170 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Do you logread when you disappear for 3 minutes? < 1360098191 499356 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1360098202 796394 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that i was finished logreading in the first place < 1360098209 441236 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1360098212 703080 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You shouldn't logread. < 1360098223 853053 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"itsbad4u" < 1360098248 419311 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : there are some things man were not meant to know <-- are you implying that shachaf is not a man? < 1360098266 459321 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, exactly < 1360098299 83410 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, he is something far more sinister. And man is pretty sinister to begin with. < 1360098360 16310 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had this hunch that I should be careful around shachaf. he has this malevolent aura around him. < 1360098393 393347 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :verily < 1360098538 707638 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sha256chaf < 1360099097 928524 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ph'nglui mglw'nafh hmac shachaf fhtagn! < 1360099303 445064 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, noo, you woke up shachaf! < 1360099562 620332 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no problem for me. he's far and away. < 1360099749 163929 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf will make you learn Ada if you're not careful < 1360099883 468141 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm armed with a squeaky rubber chicken. that should be enough. < 1360100425 321946 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-24.elisa.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1360100473 753128 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not a chicken that's a shoggoth < 1360100506 661010 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-207-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rot256 shachaf < 1360100513 782782 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: rot256: not found < 1360100522 337760 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-207-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(rot256 should totally exist) < 1360100574 975615 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 256 `mod` 26 < 1360100576 762744 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 22 < 1360100633 454784 :WeThePeople!~WeThePeop@63.91.27.121 JOIN :#esoteric < 1360100677 177634 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: No, that's just you. < 1360100702 508893 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@137.205.238.174 JOIN :#esoteric < 1360100725 506443 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've recently-ish upgraded this desktubuntu from 12.04 to 12.10, and nowadays running pavucontrol seems to constantly eat a few % of CPU, except sometimes it eats a 100 % of CPU too. < 1360100728 562138 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1360100750 187008 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :uninstall pulseaudio < 1360100757 624429 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Noooo. < 1360100764 881514 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :install pulseaudio? < 1360100773 440923 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's already installed. < 1360100775 837155 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think. < 1360100789 615380 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :if neither of those works, I'm out of tips < 1360100810 494232 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should split the difference and "ninstall" PulseAudio. < 1360100824 313958 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@137.205.238.174 NICK :Guest50856 < 1360100872 164004 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :make a script that repeatedly installs and uninstalls pulseaudio, adjust the duty cycle until it works < 1360100923 763650 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ln -s /bin/cat bin/rot256 < 1360100926 819492 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ln: invalid option -- ' ' \ Try `ln --help' for more information. < 1360100927 821368 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ln -s /bin/cat bin/rot256 < 1360100932 607036 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1360100939 169293 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1360100953 8801 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ln -s /bin/echo bin/rot256 < 1360100955 30645 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ln: creating symbolic link `bin/rot256': File exists < 1360100963 328814 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm bin/rot256 < 1360100966 95479 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do I hunger for shoggoth'n'chips now... < 1360100971 33764 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1360100971 796849 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ln -s /bin/echo bin/rot256 < 1360100977 716756 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1360100984 469483 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rot256 shachaf < 1360100987 257925 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf < 1360100990 720257 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: hth < 1360100993 910249 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db4e17d.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1360101016 991757 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-207-105.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1360101403 529950 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : ais523: An abampere (i.e. the emu-cgs biot) of current going around in a circle with a radius of one centimetre produces a macnetic field of 2pi oerjans... I mean, oersteds at the center. <-- WHEE! < 1360101411 132961 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION feels dizzy
< 1360101637 821663 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-207-105.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1360101806 823730 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db4e17d.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you must have a spin of 1/2 < 1360101809 900244 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db4e17d.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi oerjan < 1360101858 307732 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@sabis.ru QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1360101906 958644 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db4e17d.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is dizzy good? < 1360101913 899002 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1360101971 176604 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION rotates 360 degrees and suddenly is upside down
< 1360101999 983177 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, there are 4pi steradians in a sphere < 1360102004 932433 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hagb4rd: I CAN AFFERMI THAT < 1360102801 90707 :WeThePeople!~WeThePeop@63.91.27.121 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1360102842 646815 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-24.elisa.ee QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1360103054 559454 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :god dammit my laptop has started making that occasional clicking sound again _and_ the housemate has started creaking with his chair again. < 1360103184 653670 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe your laptop is a brick, you don't have a housemate, and you're imagining things < 1360103215 984829 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: try banging on the case near the fan if it's clicking < 1360103220 999595 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :last time it happened, it helped making sure jqs.exe wasn't running. but it isn't running now. < 1360103221 224134 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in my case, a clicking sound means the fan has jammed < 1360103228 652062 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh... < 1360103252 19509 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and banging on the case has a 100% reliability on restarting it (typically with a delay of several seconds) < 1360103261 604829 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the fan was already running, alas < 1360103334 77363 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in that case it's probably the hard drive, as the only other moving part < 1360103342 255545 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you should take backups ASAP because it may well fail soon < 1360103353 49094 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact the clicking only happens when the laptop is idle < 1360103355 161972 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1360103363 814105 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'phpwm is an Xll window manager using embeded php to manage all events, creating a "scriptable" window manager.' < 1360103410 646987 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1360103430 778180 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's x-ray lima lima, not X11 < 1360103777 481567 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: are you just refusing to live in a world where this exists? < 1360103784 544507 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't say i blame you < 1360103786 207812 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, i do that a lot < 1360103798 955656 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like how "scriptable" is in scare quotes though < 1360103804 433254 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1360103808 548273 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"PHPWM User Group (phpwm) on Twitter" oh < 1360103838 208710 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, this is west midlands, not window manager. < 1360103857 104794 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dear, I'm in the west midlands < 1360103864 371914 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, google has two different php-related things before it has the window manager < 1360103956 863100 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the window manager is only third worst, I don't want to know what the other two are < 1360103985 849159 :sirdancealot!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1360103989 341678 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a user group and a website manager < 1360104000 405739 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :php has users!? *gasp* < 1360104020 752273 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's actually a php user behind ais523 right now DON'T LOOK < 1360104024 850259 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: it's not surprising that it has users < 1360104028 836873 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: why can't I look? < 1360104035 153770 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also there wouldn't be much room for a PHP user behind me < 1360104043 972493 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my back isn't literally to the wall, but it's quite close to it < 1360104050 783275 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's actually outside < 1360104075 585376 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't look because there's a wall there, you can't see through walls < 1360104988 745800 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION notices that Bike assumed it was an exterior wall, even though the sentences he stated don't technically assume that
< 1360105100 212920 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably if you go through enough walls you'll get to outside < 1360105116 53461 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you're in some kind of toroidial installation < 1360105119 114198 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you? < 1360105296 487251 :Guest50856!~phantomho@137.205.238.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, ah, but in that case the floor eventually becomes a wall < 1360105297 516405 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if you were in a toroidal installation, you'd still get to outside if you went in a straight line backwards < 1360105307 835347 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least because of the curvature of the earth < 1360105358 649534 :Guest50856!~phantomho@137.205.238.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe if he's on the event horizon of a black hole < 1360105364 511700 :Guest50856!~phantomho@137.205.238.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoah < 1360105370 184597 :Guest50856!~phantomho@137.205.238.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why am i Guest50856 < 1360105377 105693 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guest50856: backwards still exists then < 1360105377 425830 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it's clear enough that i want to follow the floor when i'm talking about a building, and the PHP developers not therein < 1360105382 895184 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just impossible for anything to move in that direction < 1360105399 677312 :Guest50856!~phantomho@137.205.238.174 QUIT :Changing host < 1360105399 862443 :Guest50856!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1360105406 68880 :Guest50856!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 NICK :Phantom_Hoover < 1360105406 956401 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice job! < 1360105424 312725 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, your username is "phantomho" < 1360105448 579869 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, at the event horizon a straight line tangent to the surface is a circle around the event horizon. < 1360105450 149697 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think. < 1360105480 628449 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I don't think black holes actually change geometry like that < 1360105491 737648 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at the event horizon, something going at the speed of light away from the black hole doesn't move at all < 1360105500 193976 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1360105508 422375 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :changing the geometry is the /entire point/ < 1360105540 997403 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at the event horizon, a lightlike curve tangent to the horizon is circular < 1360105556 643695 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1360105559 4734 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait! no it isn't < 1360105576 503435 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that actually happens a way outside the event horizon < 1360105602 971565 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, the position at which light would orbit the black hole is going to be some way away from the event horizon < 1360105605 883631 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :between there and the event horizon you can't orbit < 1360105607 83943 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at the event horizon, it falls in < 1360105642 694502 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, point is, since something something geodesics the php advocate could well be in front of you < 1360105697 792307 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style lovecraft < 1360105697 977642 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: lovecraft (H. P. Lovecraft's writings) < 1360105701 94439 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed, you could well be the php advocate < 1360105712 203338 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: what do you have to say about time traveling php advocates? < 1360105712 816310 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the next logical move was to get to the innermost recesses of the olive grove and the fnord of the < 1360105739 980633 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: i was thinking maybe something more non-euclidean < 1360105740 795699 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: " that refinery, though, it was to discover myself half sucked into a slimy expanse of hellish black fnord which extended about me in monotonous undulations as far as practicable. this, he guessed, was the < 1360105753 795199 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :much better. < 1360105758 256896 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: what do you think about Xll? < 1360105760 274729 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: made of the original fragment during the work. the next day i carefully wrapped the green jade amulet and sailed for holland. what mercy i might gain by returning the thing to any ordinary or expected transportation route. his final idea was to have been the neighboring abyss which received the greatest fnord could have reproduced each subtle fnord and mental complexity they would have been the singular cold that aliena < 1360105767 335084 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1360106102 309467 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: say something insightful < 1360106102 910185 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i did not open my eyes until the raucous clamour came loudly from a point as remote as new york, which joined on near 1830. there were hideous screams in the woods. he could turn and move and leap he could he would he would. < 1360106110 249782 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: say something witty < 1360106110 485261 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i felt a chill which was not of the dead < 1360106115 115009 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1360106115 300371 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft* nethack pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1360106261 796780 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: say something scary < 1360106262 174681 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: the ground sloped upward to the east and see the arched flight of steps or its fnord. < 1360106292 899596 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style alice < 1360106293 85102 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: alice (Books by Lewis Carroll) < 1360106304 210578 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: say something blasphemous < 1360106304 658609 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: " i should think it did go! why, i do believe,' said humpty dumpty, ' and i'm nearly sure they can't see me. < 1360106309 578384 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, bizarre math joke? < 1360106310 46055 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: one winter night, at half-past nine, cold, tired, and cross, and muddy, i had gone down upon one knee to help the fnord but much yet remains to be said. < 1360106327 105365 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: stop saying fnord............... < 1360106327 326107 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: they gazed in delight, while the great fnord of fnord and fnord his eyes. " isn't he kind, mister sir?" < 1360106341 264921 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot................................................. < 1360106341 547918 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: but when she saw him fnord and fnord. and then there's the fnord, as well as fnord reading sauce with fish, or fnord, that alice quite fnord for it hadn't spoken before. < 1360106355 750033 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1360106361 377084 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Could you disable the fnords? < 1360106407 425699 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, yes; in fact, I don't think the VariKN-trained models even have them. < 1360106410 520336 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1360106437 560138 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style iwcs < 1360106437 745529 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: iwcs (Irregular Webcomic scripts) < 1360106445 874123 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1360106446 59641 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the fnords < 1360106450 566153 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't want a webcomic!! < 1360106452 976779 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :pining for the fnords, as it were < 1360106457 930135 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Don't be a webcomic. < 1360106458 196527 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: my name is dr. montana, sir. < 1360106458 788074 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless its super mega < 1360106466 706788 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :can we have super mega comics < 1360106469 190158 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fungot < 1360106469 470644 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: on the way, myth, god created the universe, a better universe! we choose only die fittest people of nigeria! < 1360106471 110601 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: pine for the fnords will you < 1360106471 295965 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: /nick dr. montana, sir. < 1360106471 296146 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: no, the boy, do you?! i'm insulted! < 1360106471 481455 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: a bit of a noble way of the most secure and well-guarded buildings in the world, we should at a time like a good spot of tea, then, why? < 1360106489 728101 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: FNORDS < 1360106490 53146 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: ha! i fight the hippo, sea dog, and the bug to get the snakes, and 9... we only had ter put down 10%, not nothing. this isn't the time or place, but it has given me a splitting the profits for the nigerian government a charity? people! a wooden look, there's the mighty hunting creature! it's killed kyros and lambert, a travelling merchant, practised with bow, can i do to help, i meant! translation: the doors of the vati < 1360106524 943438 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The 'alice' style is perhaps a bit overly prone to fnords due to the large number of unique words. < 1360106569 693030 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style speeches < 1360106569 878285 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: speeches (misc. speeches from Project Gutenberg) < 1360106573 216345 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the idea with the fnords? < 1360106593 758223 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: can we have some churchill < 1360106596 286782 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: that is what it has cost us fnord or worldly fnord is our reward that we can give nothing to the mass, that, if we do repel you by some wrong principle or practice. if we were to have indian budgets and indian estimates, if we pass this bill, and those not a few, or of the greatest names which ever distinguished the history of london, had not yet been taken down. we repaired and embellished the car under the wheels of < 1360106641 813015 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: All words with very few occurrences (in this case, occurring only once, I think) have been replaced with a single token "UNK"; it's a reasonably standard thing to do in language models. < 1360106683 46928 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :to make the model smaller and easier to work with? < 1360106685 672853 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course it really only makes sense if the model is used to compute sentence likelihoods or what-have-you. < 1360106729 113821 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, and anyway there wouldn't be enough ngrams where those words occur to get any particularly reasonable statistics for them either. < 1360106759 105336 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just that in the generative mode, it has to replace that token with *something*. < 1360106777 459284 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should use the phrase "hapax legomenon" because that's a good phrase < 1360106814 749965 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: Poulet! < 1360106874 553894 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote but when she saw him fnord and fnord. and then there's the fnord, as well as fnord reading sauce with fish, or fnord, that alice quite fnord for it hadn't spoken before. < 1360106876 120822 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: " therefore it is, that those motives to which mr mill pronounces to be a murderer merely for his pleasure. the passages in which the manufacturers of england are distinguishing. they hear these men speak broad. their tongue betrays them. their language had needed fnord for a debt, and of all christian sects the roman catholic clergy. had he permitted me to say what thought is meant to answer in favour of bringing about < 1360106878 515445 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :953) but when she saw him fnord and fnord. and then there's the fnord, as well as fnord reading sauce with fish, or fnord, that alice quite fnord for it hadn't spoken before. < 1360106966 64128 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Given that it's not possible for the model to see any unseen data, by definition, since it's not going to see any data at all, I could just drop everything that mentions the UNK. (Or for the small datasets, perhaps just build full vocabularies, though I suppose that might end up adding to the amount of verbatim quoting, since any occurs-only-once word would automatically force repetition of ... < 1360106972 530263 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... whatever followed it until it drops out of the context.) < 1360106992 51650 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: tell me about monoids < 1360106992 543862 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: while our historians are practising all the arts of civil life. at the siege of jerusalem on a far shore i smoothed with tender hand, through months of pain, the sleepless bed of hyde: < 1360106999 725363 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1360106999 910747 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack pa qwantz sms speeches* ss wp youtube < 1360107027 397600 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: gimme some meaningless platitudes < 1360107028 803509 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: mr. morley: then let me assure him, perhaps the most hardly treated. in november 1660, he was cheered and refreshed, and soothed, and asked him where he was treated excited the murmurs of the sea: who is now a large body of men who honor and appreciate your pilgrim stock as much as the classical feast with which the aristocrats were now treated, and to all the dignity and fnord with mystic awe: the proud sultana of the < 1360107048 879940 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: cheer me up < 1360107101 847369 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, why shachaf sad < 1360107108 932328 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders if CyberCoders is a bad idea or whether he should continue to try to find jobs through it
< 1360107116 541083 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: did i talk too much :'( < 1360107118 389825 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: memoirs, popularity of, as a lexicographer, been under the necessity of education, not presuming to dictate any plan or system respecting it, i do verily believe i have been the true construction of his answer, if sincere, as frederick of prussia answered, pour fnord fnord de fnord occupy a large space in his works have an individuality of character which seems to have hated democracy only because he had not more time < 1360107129 472173 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: treat me the murmurs of the sea < 1360107130 860361 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: " thus much in general as such, shall not govern himself? when the white man: you are certain there is going to be in his place in this assembly. he said that his son couldn't tell a lie! but he never had any chance. it might be said that it was only because events had proved, in the discussion on affairs in fnord who wants to pay more regard to one poor man than to the true statesman. he thinks of the place was open, i < 1360107146 926411 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :too long! < 1360107153 71653 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, I've farmed the model training to varigram_kn these days; it does automatic pruning (and has options for both "drop all words with less than ndrop occurances" as well as "remove n-grams containing OOV words"), so the fnords shouldn't be much of a problem. < 1360107181 124061 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should really take the backoff weights into account some day, though. < 1360107533 763317 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I wonder if there are any actually forced (as opposed to just highly probable) loops in any of the styles. From what I recall, e.g. the infamous sword that alone can't stop isn't really an unescapable one. < 1360107554 818389 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote sword < 1360107556 871989 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1360107560 419872 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style ct < 1360107560 605285 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: ct (Chrono Trigger game script) < 1360107567 570186 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: So how about them swords? < 1360107567 929223 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: as long as you keep crono in your heart, the day of lavos"... go to " leene square" 1000 a.d.? yes, i'd have done something very brave! he's probably up north, to guardia!!! let's toast our land! now we'll have some peace! magus is a tad on the spooky side. our only hope. < 1360107578 172950 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: swords swords swords < 1360107578 395546 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: yes, it's been awhile prometheus! by the way, the wings! now this is a treasure there... found the treasure!! probably filled with mystical forest powers are being drained. why not? then you should leave quickly! < 1360107590 510214 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Magus: a tad on the spooky side, yet our only hope. < 1360107670 238173 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The toothpaste provided to soldiers at most military bases in America contains extremely high levels of guns-- but little to no actual toothpaste." < 1360107684 613948 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :guns for gums < 1360107715 179391 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the guns shoot the bacteria < 1360107784 657016 :WeThePeople!~WeThePeop@unaffiliated/wethepeople JOIN :#esoteric < 1360107870 733989 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Phantom_Hoover < 1360107888 116859 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i heard you didn't actually write phantom-hoover.tumblr.com..................... < 1360107891 362786 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it true........ < 1360107898 137779 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1360107920 246126 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1360107933 719829 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think he used a ghostwriter < 1360108046 863036 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds