< 1360368216 962399 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, (>>=)(+)($), ((+)>>=($)) or (($)=<<(+))? < 1360368300 438757 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it would be like ((+)>>=id) which is like (join(+)) so it is doubling < 1360368315 505036 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1360368330 433032 :augur!~augur@c-69-138-251-193.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1360368345 203791 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you figure out any of these sequences of natural numbers? < 1360368351 774994 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :663, 896, 84733, 3687, 3473, 749, ...? < 1360368355 492275 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :17, 13, 5, 18, 20, 25, 21, ...? < 1360368363 948147 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :1, 6, 10, 2, 5, 4, 9, 0, 8, 50, 40, 7, 60, 80, 11, ...? < 1360368385 152000 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :2, 4, 6, 30, 32, 34, 36, 40, 42, 44, 46, ...? < 1360368390 306192 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :0, 0, 0, 0, 4, 9, 5, 1, 1, 0, 55, ...? < 1360368401 204636 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@oeis 663, 896, 84733, 3687, 3473, 749 < 1360368401 548150 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing rings a bell yet < 1360368402 849360 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Sequence not found. < 1360368413 232311 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :@oeis 663 896 84733 < 1360368413 418188 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@oeis 17, 13, 5, 18, 20, 25, 21 < 1360368413 603766 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Numerical equivalents of the words zero, one, two, three, ... on touch-tone ... < 1360368413 603953 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [9376,663,896,84733,3687,3483,749,73836,34448,6463,836,353836,893583,8447833... < 1360368414 901385 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try to figure out without OEIS. < 1360368415 86764 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Sequence not found. < 1360368442 857071 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@oeis 17,13,5,18,20,25,21 < 1360368444 103154 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Sequence not found. < 1360368447 545335 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O perhaps I did a typing mistake? < 1360368467 249661 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think oerjan is just needing to figure out how @oeis works < 1360368479 224472 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no 3473 should have been 3483 < 1360368479 766829 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I just made them up and do not remember all of them myself) < 1360368484 184727 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@oeis 663, 896, 84733, 3687, 3483, 749 < 1360368484 998515 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Numerical equivalents of the words zero, one, two, three, ... on touch-tone ... < 1360368485 184077 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [9376,663,896,84733,3687,3483,749,73836,34448,6463,836,353836,893583,8447833... < 1360368545 13413 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: the second also seems to have a type, i get qmertyu < 1360368556 732801 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*typo < 1360368559 678303 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I will fix that one too then. < 1360368574 477194 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(These are some I have on my computer.) < 1360368655 312658 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that 2,4,6,30 one i have this weird feeling it's been mentioned before < 1360368672 256144 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it has. But I forget what it means too < 1360368717 247899 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :after 30, it seems to only skip 38 and is otherwise linear < 1360369032 245567 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have read about different tests for a pseudo random number generator, of a few such as with dice and so on. Would a Fourier transform help at all? < 1360370208 200630 :augur!~augur@c-98-218-127-183.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1360371385 38038 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1360371962 480255 :augur!~augur@c-98-218-127-183.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1360372197 45244 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what block cipher mode is used by OpenSSL cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA256? < 1360372784 877294 :augur!~augur@pool-108-28-129-16.washdc.east.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1360372799 555927 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i suspect the anonymous ip who once cleaned up IINC was me < 1360372816 581557 :augur!~augur@pool-108-28-129-16.washdc.east.verizon.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1360372961 541413 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently it is "TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA256" < 1360372977 579565 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's too much to expect that all the CBC modes should have "CBC" in the unique id < 1360373774 30529 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1360374808 413073 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ] < 1360374808 635397 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mismatched []. < 1360375504 747173 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar KBOS < 1360375511 576845 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :aww < 1360375527 925125 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well anyway we're up to +SN now < 1360375757 647526 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does googling -4^(1/4) produce 822,000 porn links and nothing else < 1360376998 66741 :WeThePeople!~WeThePeop@unaffiliated/wethepeople QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1360378028 743079 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Maybe you need an equal sign afterward; did you try that? < 1360378102 478233 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have anyone else in here ever using LodePNG? < 1360378143 158436 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(If so, in C or C++?) < 1360378493 135438 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo test | fueue ')[)~~[)$--1[)~]<~~<)<[)$%0]][):]~[)~~[)$--1[)~]<~~<)<[)$$6-%0]][~~~)*[)~(:+~~-)+1]---256%):]~[)~~[)$--1[)~]<~~<)<[)$--%0]][~~)<~~~(]~[)~~[)$--1[)~]<~~<)<[)$%0]][):]~[)~~[)$--1[)~]<~~<)<[)$$7--1]][~~~)%[~~)~:(+-)(~)+-1*256]+-~)255:]~[~~~~<)[)))~$([[)[~~~~()+1])][0]$%~~1)][]]~[)~~[)$--1[)~]<~~<)<[)$--%0]][))(($3~)<(]~[~~~~<)[)))~$([[)[~~~~()+1])][0]$%~~1)][]]~[[0]:[[0]<:[[0]<:]][48H])~!]]]]]]]]][)[H]][33H]' < 1360378499 190231 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :fs < 1360378519 956003 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :excellent < 1360379864 506326 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If all of the channels of VGM are enabled then how many channels will there be? < 1360380945 569735 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1360381243 506350 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1360381384 499756 :WeThePeople!~WeThePeop@unaffiliated/wethepeople JOIN :#esoteric < 1360381503 81948 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: so basically it assumes it's a time so far back in the past that it can't compute the difference? < 1360381515 670001 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"eons ago" < 1360381959 178596 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^list < 1360382253 867657 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo -n test | fueue ')[)~~[)$--1[)~]<~~<)<[)$%0]][):]~[)~~[)$--1[)~]<~~<)<[)$--%0]][~~)<~~~(]~[)$--1[$8~)$4<[)$$6-%0[)]]<]~)~:~[!~)~~[)[)$--1[)~~~[)$4~[~):~~[~:~)~[)$$6-%0~~[$~])~]<~]<~<]$3~[)$~~~%~~)]<~(~~<]~~<<~[0]]<<<:]][1)[)[)$--%0[)))~$([[)[~~~~()+1])][0]$%~~1)][][))$11~<<~:(~:<]])[))(($3~)<(]]]]]~[~~~~<)[)))~$([[)[~~~~()+1])][0]$%~~1)][]]~[[0]:[[0]<:[[0]<:]][48H])~!]]]]][)[H]][33H] ' < 1360382255 662083 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :t < 1360382264 776598 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo -n anothertest | fueue ')[)~~[)$--1[)~]<~~<)<[)$%0]][):]~[)~~[)$--1[)~]<~~<)<[)$--%0]][~~)<~~~(]~[)$--1[$8~)$4<[)$$6-%0[)]]<]~)~:~[!~)~~[)[)$--1[)~~~[)$4~[~):~~[~:~)~[)$$6-%0~~[$~])~]<~]<~<]$3~[)$~~~%~~)]<~(~~<]~~<<~[0]]<<<:]][1)[)[)$--%0[)))~$([[)[~~~~()+1])][0]$%~~1)][][))$11~<<~:(~:<]])[))(($3~)<(]]]]]~[~~~~<)[)))~$([[)[~~~~()+1])][0]$%~~1)][]]~[[0]:[[0]<:[[0]<:]][48H])~!]]]]][)[H]][33H] ' < 1360382266 584574 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :t < 1360382272 72521 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :excellent < 1360382318 272656 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mlist < 1360382319 760238 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: mlist: not found < 1360382321 796807 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that was ,[>,]<. btw) < 1360382322 85498 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hlist < 1360382323 746566 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: hlist: not found < 1360382326 817137 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: `slist < 1360382330 297026 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist < 1360382331 746381 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1360382368 65290 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... < 1360382389 997555 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls *list < 1360382391 911657 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/bin/ls: cannot access *list: No such file or directory \ /bin/ls: cannot access *list: No such file or directory < 1360382396 151302 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls bin/*list < 1360382398 59574 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/list \ bin/makelist \ bin/olist \ bin/slist < 1360382407 424397 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/makelist < 1360382409 15507 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo 'tail -n +2 $0 | xargs echo; exit 0' >$1;chmod +x $1 < 1360382904 682112 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1360382956 513545 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes JOIN :#esoteric < 1360383193 442186 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf JOIN :#esoteric < 1360383315 253513 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :welcome back?? < 1360383362 303302 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :???????????? < 1360383375 997064 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :¿ < 1360383435 302908 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 ft of snow accumulation and no sign of it slowing down < 1360383549 459865 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It turns out shachaf.net expired in Oct < 1360383558 41623 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1360383569 903915 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hardly :( < 1360383572 128450 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have it now! < 1360383593 869176 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, you didn't before? < 1360383597 821379 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope. < 1360383600 421547 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :conchafulations! < 1360383602 727505 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had that jumble of letters. < 1360383619 485956 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I have to become an ISP, right? < 1360383678 732364 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The maximum channels in a VGM file using all chips must be a lot; especially since most of them can be doubled. Even the OPL4 alone supports 42 channels (I think it does). < 1360383719 699974 :DH____!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you do, can I connect though you? Bound to be more reliable than Virgin Media... < 1360384075 332072 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1360384117 192728 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you get shach.af < 1360384143 589709 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1360384152 410570 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but it's $100/year or something. < 1360384158 750379 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Arc_Koen < 1360384690 809596 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How much money do you want to pay for it? < 1360384944 284969 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Presumably less than $100/year < 1360384965 955378 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently I can get it for $78/year. < 1360384969 19107 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :100$/year seems nicer to write since the unit is really $/year and nice to have the unit all together like that < 1360385075 768466 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION prepares to watch Sgeo apply that to parentheses
< 1360385107 211862 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloerjan < 1360385111 277284 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :welcoerjan back? < 1360385179 432313 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :have i been gone? < 1360385205 464357 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, for the last day or something? < 1360385205 676045 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i _was_ making food for a few minutes < 1360385211 489302 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat. < 1360385225 856688 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :/whoerjanis < 1360387168 844399 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it's not snowing in CA is it < 1360387179 37309 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope. < 1360387198 160890 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was ~12° and sunny today. < 1360387369 769279 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :C or F? < 1360387379 153975 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or... R < 1360387383 585355 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :C < 1360387414 328898 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also that's a TILDE, not a HYPHEN-MINUS. < 1360387536 542178 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: do you understand adjunctions < 1360387544 922432 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"i dont have much intuition for them..........." < 1360387644 774450 :WeThePeople!~WeThePeop@unaffiliated/wethepeople QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1360387740 117421 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hyphen-tilde < 1360387794 143705 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: is dnscurve "the future" < 1360387888 415341 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i... don't know < 1360387902 511148 :DH____!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1360387914 434806 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does 'future' here mean 'actual future' or 'epcot' < 1360387923 830139 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1360387927 167923 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :a@wn epcot < 1360387928 751580 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn epcot < 1360387929 902254 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :No match for "epcot". < 1360388029 663493 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the "70s vision of the year 2000" theme park at disney world < 1360389370 527979 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist < 1360389372 156756 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1360389434 654566 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: By the way am I on the pbfcomics.com update list? < 1360389438 860637 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You didn't notify me. < 1360389475 186950 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo more test | fueue ')[)~~[)$--1[)~]<~~<)<[)$%0]][):]~[~~~~<)[)))~$([[)[~~~~()+1])][0]$%~~1)][]]~[[49 33H])[))$12~[:]<<$4~~~<[)$--1[$8~)$4<[)$$6-%0[)]]<]~)~:~]~[!~)~~[)[)$--1[)~~~[)$4~[~):~~[~:~)~[)$$6-%0~~[$~])~]<~]<~<]$3~[)$~~~%~~)]<~(~~<]~~<<~[0]]<<<:]]]<<[1)]]~[)~~[)$--1[)~]<~~<)<[)$$7--1]][~~~)%[~~)~:(+-)(~)+-1*256]+-~)255:]~[[0]:[[0]<:[[0]<:]][50 33H])~!]]]]][))$11~<<~:(~:<][)[[48 33H])~[)[H]]~~!]!]' < 1360389477 332980 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :more test < 1360389481 283641 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay! < 1360389562 549332 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that was +[,.] in yet a more primitive form) < 1360389672 92456 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(obviously "primitive" is something very different from "shorter") < 1360389712 448745 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, I don't check PBF. So no. < 1360389716 59119 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks for telling me though < 1360389724 448798 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: are you eliminating instructions? < 1360389731 253108 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1360389750 665513 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :by "primitive" i mean earlier in the parsing stage < 1360389761 838755 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Please put me on the PBF list. < 1360389778 852908 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is no PBF list. There will never be a PBF list. < 1360389779 281004 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: thx < 1360389849 51967 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically i am simulating the point just after parsing the ], while faking the final EOF read. < 1360389896 741420 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-170-156.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use RSS. < 1360389903 30366 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo 'tail -n+2 "$0" | xargs; exit' > bin/pbflist; chmod +x bin/pbflist < 1360389903 629338 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or ! read if you use the +[,.]!more test convention < 1360389906 945833 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1360389909 8988 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo shachaf >> bin/pbflist < 1360389912 565055 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1360389920 418344 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo Sgeo >> bin/pbflist < 1360389923 802069 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1360389924 894610 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo quintopia >> bin/pbflist < 1360389928 479632 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1360389929 41158 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pbflist < 1360389930 822918 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf Sgeo quintopia < 1360389950 113972 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION does not mind being on the PBF list. But I will not be the one to trigger it.
< 1360389965 87287 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`supermegalist < 1360389966 119874 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: supermegalist: not found < 1360389967 859025 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :help??? < 1360389998 458518 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo 'tail -n+2 "$0" | xargs; exit' > bin/emptylist; chmod +x bin/emptylist < 1360390001 913432 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1360390009 707002 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cp bin/{empty,supermega}list < 1360390013 289516 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1360390017 915301 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo shachaf >> bin/supermegalist < 1360390021 679172 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1360390072 588015 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mv bin/{supermega,sm}list < 1360390076 498773 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1360390085 517641 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo $'monqy\nelliott' >> bin/smlist < 1360390088 923205 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1360390089 467464 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`smlist < 1360390091 328897 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf monqy elliott < 1360390102 16282 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunately super mega has not updated < 1360390102 281483 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`emptylist < 1360390104 158507 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1360390115 534760 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: sry < 1360390164 366401 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: should i get a odmaininame in afghanistan < 1360390200 239707 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shacha.af < 1360390238 455745 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :shacha.fi < 1360390447 774727 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: you talk like super mega < 1360390456 29298 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do I < 1360390477 120685 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes!!!!!!! < 1360390519 970716 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :super mega resonates with me deeply at a personal level < 1360390524 139804 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1360391718 314412 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1360391723 862909 :DH____!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1360392197 505490 :sirdancealot7!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1360392338 650707 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo also test | fueue '):[)~~[~:~~~)<[)~~[)$--1[)~]<~~<)<[)$--%0]][))(($3~)<(]~]][)~~[~:~~~)<[~~~~<)[)))~$([[)[~~~~()+1])][0]$%~~1)][]]~]][)~~[~:~~~)<[)~~[)$--1[)~]<~~<)<[)$$7--1]][~~~)%[~~)~:(+-)(~)+-1*256]+-~)255:]~]][)~~[~:~~~)<[)~~[)$--1[)~]<~~<)<[)$%0]][):]~]][)~~[~:~~~)<[)~~[)$--1[)~]<~~<)<[)$--%0]][~~)<~~~(]~]][)~~[~:~~~)<[)~~[)$--1[)~]<~~<)<[)$$6-%0]][~~~)*[)~(:+~~-)+1]---256%):]~]][)~~[)[[50 33H])~[)[H]]~~!]!][]!]!]!]!]!]!]!][[0]:[[0]<: < 1360392342 273023 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: -c: line 0: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `'' \ bash: -c: line 1: syntax error: unexpected end of file < 1360392350 323338 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1360392413 156415 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :just a little too long < 1360392492 761740 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo also test | fueue '):[)~~[~:~~~)<[)~~[)$--1[)~]<~~<)<[)$--%0]][))(($3~)<(]~]][)~~[~:~~~)<[~~~~<)[)))~$([[)[~~~~()+1])][0]$%~~1)][]]~]][)~~[~:~~~)<[)~~[)$--1[)~]<~~<)<[)$$7--1]][~~~)%[~~)~:(+-)(~)+-1*256]+-~)255:]~]][)~~[~:~~~)<[)~~[)$--1[)~]<~~<)<[)$%0]][):]~]][)~~[)[[50 33H])~[)[H]]~~!]!][]!]!]!]!]!][[0]:[[0]<:[[0]<:]][49 33H])~!][48 33H] ' < 1360392494 901366 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :also test \ ÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿ < 1360392501 423756 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn < 1360393237 61175 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo also test | fueue '):[)~~[~:~~~)<[~~~~<)[)))~$([[)[~~~~()+1])][0]$%~~1)][]]~]][)~~[~:~~~)<[)~~[)$--1[)~]<~~<)<[)$$7--1]][~~~)%[~~)~:(+-)(~)+-1*256]+-~)255:]~]][)~~[~:~~~)<[)~~[)$--1[)~]<~~<)<[)$%0]][):]~]][)[[50 33H])~[)[H]]~~!]!]!]!]!][[0]:[[0]<:[[0]<:]][49 33H])~!][48 33H] ' < 1360393238 944504 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :b < 1360393245 735526 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay! < 1360393458 833776 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo also test | fueue '):[)~~[~:~~~)<[)~~[)$--1[)~]<~~<)<[)$--%0]][))(($3~)<(]~]][)~~[~:~~~)<[~~~~<)[)))~$([[)[~~~~()+1])][0]$%~~1)][]]~]][)~~[~:~~~)<[)~~[)$--1[)~]<~~<)<[)$$6-%0]][~~~)*[)~(:+~~-)+1]---256%):]~]][)~~[~:~~~)<[)~~[)$--1[)~]<~~<)<[)$%0]][):]~]][)[[50 33H])~[)[H]]~~!]!]!]!]!]!][[0]:[[0]<:[[0]<:]][49 33H])~!][48 33H] ' < 1360393460 567218 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​` < 1360393466 96334 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good, good < 1360393640 715800 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: why do subtyping people say covariant instead of monotonic < 1360393653 644020 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"wouldnt that be a more obvious" name < 1360393653 949025 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo also test | fueue '):[)~~[~:~~~)<[~~~~<)[)))~$([[)[~~~~()+1])][0]$%~~1)][]]~]][)~~[~:~~~)<[)~~[)$--1[)~]<~~<)<[)$--%0]][~~)<~~~(]~]][)~~[~:~~~)<[~~~~<)[)))~$([[)[~~~~()+1])][0]$%~~1)][]]~]][)~~[~:~~~)<[)~~[)$--1[)~]<~~<)<[)$%0]][):]~]][)[[50 33H])~[)[H]]~~!]!]!]!]!]!][[0]:[[0]<:[[0]<:]][49 33H])~!][48 33H] ' < 1360393655 777491 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :l < 1360393750 727640 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Good night < 1360393798 6045 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: probably they sometimes say monotonic/antimonotonic? but i don't know "why" they say covariant/contravariant < 1360393804 908472 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"just a words" < 1360393837 44474 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo the category theory words should be monotonic too............ < 1360393842 428692 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone knows what that means < 1360393851 486293 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and covariant/contravariant are confusing < 1360393857 456862 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :they both start with co!!!! < 1360394087 451647 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: does "monotone functor"/ "monotonic functor" mean anything in category theory < 1360394204 640487 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk < 1360394249 18858 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"oopse maybe there is??" < 1360394296 123383 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You have a problem and decide to use threads. have two Now problems. you" < 1360395026 512479 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-170-156.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION reaches new levels of laziness...
< 1360395054 223067 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-170-156.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :IRC from bed is a very different experience. < 1360395059 335498 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-170-156.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Profoundly, profoundly lazy. < 1360395064 129076 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sounds uncomfortable < 1360395094 604894 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-170-156.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah. < 1360395112 122966 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-170-156.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wireless keyboard to my computer that's a mere few feet away. < 1360395119 67491 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-170-156.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just damned lazy. < 1360395179 641945 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-170-156.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tiny bit hard to read though. < 1360395223 280058 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-170-156.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure I need to get an eye appointment done sometime, though, so... < 1360395240 83917 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-170-156.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My refractive error has changed somewhat. < 1360395318 284777 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :my previous apartment was slightly tiny < 1360395341 909914 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :so my bed was my kitchen table and my computer chair and also everything else < 1360395387 5932 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i don't even have a computer in the bed*room* :( < 1360395414 96217 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-170-156.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why, the bedroom's the only space that is my own. < 1360395433 540311 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you live with someone? < 1360395443 370905 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-170-156.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mother's basement. < 1360395446 942706 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :my bedroom isn't really mine either :( < 1360395477 407743 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a bedroom but i sleep in a little side-room on the floor < 1360395511 895083 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :why < 1360395523 153730 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-170-156.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of these days, I will move out, and it will be delightful. < 1360395523 339120 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :better ventillation < 1360395574 404693 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i always irc from < 1360395575 972139 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :bed < 1360395578 354180 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :so last night i realized how to solve a problem with an article. then i slept for 9 hours. i have no idea what the solution was. < 1360395579 612823 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am doing it now < 1360395584 793614 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-170-156.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though probably not alone per se; it would seem most likely, given life, that it'd just be me moving in with my girlfriend. < 1360395612 893740 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :do realize you will not have a bedroom then. < 1360395639 476293 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-170-156.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not to myself, no. < 1360395644 21102 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: The solution was: sleep for 9 hours. < 1360395649 105404 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like living with your mother but she sleeps in your bed and occasionally asks that you help with the cooking. < 1360395671 371323 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-170-156.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not quite < 1360395702 979302 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: oh that's actually a good point. maybe i should consider thinking about the problem instead of trying to remember last night. < 1360395728 215150 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i made a good point? < 1360395728 939518 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1360395735 107359 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoopsies < 1360395788 458527 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-170-156.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For starters, my mom is not quite nerdy enough to be video chatting with me while playing a video game. :P < 1360395839 85002 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes and the sex is usually much less awkward < 1360395848 59695 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-170-156.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Profoundly. < 1360395849 980220 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://web.mit.edu/jgross/Public/brahm-lullaby-quirrel.mp3 < 1360395892 184289 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Too bearable < 1360395894 614572 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-170-156.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mechanics are also rather different, I imagine, but that's just my particular life circumstances being strange. < 1360395920 109296 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean < 1360395940 716972 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: i'm starting to feel drowsy < 1360395946 258341 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-170-156.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :She's trans. *Pretty* sure my mom isn't. :P < 1360395984 887759 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :she, so guy -> girl? < 1360395993 869837 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-170-156.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yuh. < 1360395994 196084 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: you should check that. your mom i mean. < 1360396013 177742 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-170-156.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: :P < 1360396023 661618 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :my ex had a trans girlfriend for a while < 1360396045 887826 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1360396067 906833 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe not girlfriend and more like friend. < 1360396069 371507 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-170-156.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Other way 'round would be a boyfriend. *shrug* < 1360396127 436872 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and maybe not friend and more like acquaintance. < 1360396186 915061 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :girlacquaintance < 1360396195 999953 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1360396222 151435 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like wireless computer so I have the keyboard, mouse, internet, display, printer, etc, is wired. < 1360396245 644768 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The router supports wireless but that is used to connect my brother's computer; my own is wired to the router. < 1360396392 327359 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@sabis.ru JOIN :#esoteric < 1360396514 902761 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know when the next Kaiji anime season is being released with subtitles? < 1360396534 675171 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: which comic lists do you want to be on < 1360396641 708820 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Akagi, and Kaiji. < 1360396641 894334 :DH____!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1360396943 729947 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1360397801 433829 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is your opinions on neutral monism? < 1360397867 142146 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i agree with it < 1360397938 750826 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm a materialist < 1360397958 971709 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or, arguable, some other term that encompasses the fact that energy does exist) < 1360398048 784621 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course energy exists but it is not necessarily fundamental. (Or is that not what you mean by "energy"?) < 1360398152 684386 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"sociologists have studied [MissingNo.'s] impact on players." < 1360398165 361922 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, by energy I mean the sort of energy that the Sun emits < 1360398191 576825 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: So same as I mean, the energy described by physics. < 1360398200 781725 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not the word used as a metaphor for spirit by people who misunderstand science and wonder "where does the energy go when someone dies" < 1360398332 643309 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It really says something about Pokémon fans that they took what is a potentially game-ruining glitch and used it as a shortcut to level up their Pokémon," < 1360398452 881727 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@sabis.ru QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1360399097 567748 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist < 1360399101 529154 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1360399214 517127 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-170-156.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: That's still philosophical materialism. < 1360399232 249567 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-170-156.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Materialism" is more-or-less the standpoint that physics governs all. < 1360399246 788013 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-170-156.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not how it'd be phrased usually, but that gets the sense of it better. < 1360399251 46160 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok < 1360399301 913743 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Physics is made of mathematics. < 1360399323 207416 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-170-156.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very much so. < 1360399338 669303 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What, Tegmark-style? < 1360399356 261607 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is Tegmark-style? < 1360399364 329814 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, does a Tegmark multiverse go against materialism? < 1360399384 425700 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-170-156.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not know enough about the implications of that to answer. < 1360399410 957178 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-170-156.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I know what you refer to, I just don't know the full implications to a degree I could answer) < 1360399503 751468 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, I see what Tegmark classification is. < 1360399511 674801 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://space.mit.edu/home/tegmark/multiverse.jpg < 1360399516 326602 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In particular level 4 < 1360399561 621705 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I looked it up in Wikipedia and it is something same as what I have read in a magazine article once. < 1360400448 407811 :hover!~nico@dynamic-adsl-94-34-211-11.clienti.tiscali.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1360400491 992307 :hover!~nico@dynamic-adsl-94-34-211-11.clienti.tiscali.it PART :#esoteric < 1360402824 520166 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1360402944 479191 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn JOIN :#esoteric < 1360405914 235403 :sirdancealot7!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1360406029 528374 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db42ad7.pool.mediaWays.net QUIT :Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de < 1360406092 949907 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1360406130 816902 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1360406153 499584 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1360406300 898824 :ogrom!~del@143.122.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1360407033 193445 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-d9329e48.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1360407283 18049 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PART :#esoteric < 1360408569 655913 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@sabis.ru JOIN :#esoteric < 1360409651 104625 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1360410086 523958 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1360410449 865222 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1360412674 22886 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Language idea: A language where you write CPS-style code manually, but the syntax of the language is such that it feels natural < 1360412810 282238 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :how much heat can a human handle? < 1360412860 339579 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :100 celsius is just fine even with high humidity, but if you put something in 200 celsius it's black after 20 minutes < 1360412904 124598 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well perhaps 20 minutes in high humidity 100 celsius is also dangerous, we don't have a very good sauna here so my intuition is not very calibrated. < 1360413606 609505 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-170-156.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1360413713 812648 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1360414090 467747 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-189-234.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1360414726 533058 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there is some research on that. < 1360414820 762167 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like 67 °C in the sauna in our building, though. < 1360414898 972020 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aww where's jconn? < 1360414901 49209 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :) 'hi' < 1360414921 361624 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :jconn is also not in #jsoftware < 1360415100 21815 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: You know about bots, any clues? < 1360415100 243819 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: they say that eggs, pancakes and juice are just a touch. < 1360415121 718019 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I don't think that really helps. < 1360416049 674689 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://dl.dropbox.com/u/21559589/databases.png < 1360416965 919296 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Getting the character (byte) at position N:" < 1360416969 328005 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION facepalms
< 1360417240 550819 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-99-87-86.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1360417353 292580 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1360417653 390336 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is now reading about a different Io language
< 1360417770 888726 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :12:24:33 Language idea: A language where you write CPS-style code manually, but the syntax of the language is such that it feels natural < 1360417771 212693 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You have 3 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them. < 1360417773 881418 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, haskell < 1360418107 143661 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan re: * oerjan is still annoyed by whoever replaced his carefully crafted ASCII graph without crossing edges with a picture with crossing edges, even if it's prettier graphics < 1360418107 614880 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1360418112 564053 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?title=Eodermdrome&diff=22229&oldid=14568 < 1360418112 821366 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1360419196 770831 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :By changing Io's stdlib, could I make it such that non-name-colliding monkeypatching is possible? < 1360419201 915981 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION thinks so
< 1360419236 600924 :sirdancealot7!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1360419468 865195 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1360419582 692665 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://web.media.mit.edu/~lieber/Lieberary/OOP/Act-1/Concurrent-OOP-in-Act-1.html makes references to old languages. I think it's old < 1360419644 138192 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1360420802 89450 :impomatic!~digital_w@65.30.113.87.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1360420804 703651 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :.... at least one other person in #yfl has toyed with Atomo < 1360420808 665424 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I feel at home < 1360421620 873338 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1360421812 779083 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1360425044 180288 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.115.38.254 JOIN :#esoteric < 1360427240 64349 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1360427614 351862 :Mathnerd314!~quassel@palevsky-223-221.rh.uchicago.edu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1360428468 878703 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@sabis.ru QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1360429220 522363 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1360430076 173495 :sirdancealot7!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1360430089 823902 :nortti!~juhani@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :traceroute 216.81.59.173 < 1360430120 374543 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1360430167 14724 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-99-87-86.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What an interesting route < 1360430921 683426 :sirdancealot7!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1360431214 825605 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION vaguely wonders what kmc thinks about Io. It reminds me vaguely of Kernel
< 1360431532 848504 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua JOIN :#esoteric < 1360432402 3356 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :) 'yay' < 1360432402 323622 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: yay < 1360432429 160860 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-99-87-86.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1360432437 506433 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-99-87-86.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :PietBot uses ) < 1360432446 506920 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-99-87-86.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Saying that, PietBot is dead < 1360432529 430248 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-99-87-86.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :) help < 1360432529 792974 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: |value error: help < 1360432533 604267 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-99-87-86.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :) 7 < 1360432533 988800 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: 7 < 1360432536 964350 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-99-87-86.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :) pi < 1360432537 376474 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: |value error: pi < 1360432541 557180 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :) o.1 < 1360432541 742818 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-99-87-86.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :) 'what' < 1360432541 939748 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: 3.14159 < 1360432542 125515 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: what < 1360432556 861388 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-99-87-86.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :) o.2 < 1360432557 283445 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: 6.28319 < 1360432562 113129 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-99-87-86.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :) o.0 < 1360432562 521669 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: 0 < 1360432565 846360 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-99-87-86.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :) p.1 < 1360432566 276346 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: |domain error < 1360432566 461947 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: | p.1 < 1360432570 285934 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-99-87-86.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :) e.1 < 1360432570 716488 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: 1 < 1360432573 114113 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-99-87-86.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :) e.2 < 1360432573 521808 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: 1 < 1360432603 971651 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :) ^1 < 1360432604 373421 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: 2.71828 < 1360432630 108982 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :) ^0 < 1360432630 488497 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: 1 < 1360432655 902146 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :) 0^0 < 1360432656 317956 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: 1 < 1360432663 497599 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-99-87-86.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :) 3+5 < 1360432663 865808 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: 8 < 1360432672 798980 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-99-87-86.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :) 1*28*5 < 1360432673 190787 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: 140 < 1360432674 634715 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :) 1*2+3 < 1360432675 27173 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: 5 < 1360432686 57393 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :) 2*3+4 < 1360432686 497361 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: 14 < 1360432823 287549 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1360432827 872422 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1360432935 900718 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :) /:~ 'Hi boily' < 1360432936 291316 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Hbiiloy < 1360432960 323509 :Mathnerd314!~quassel@palevsky-223-221.rh.uchicago.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1360433081 42585 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hillbilly < 1360433217 474832 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi! < 1360433221 202831 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just a moment... < 1360433223 680730 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: Poulet! < 1360433233 920569 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1360433265 557275 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :show that I'm an IRC addict now, I guess. came in to work on a saturday, absentmindedly start weechat in screen. < 1360433312 580740 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: hi! weren't you Adaing instead of Jing? < 1360433325 688380 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I ain't no hillbilly. much too cold to be one. < 1360433406 175538 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm Ioing now < 1360433407 305033 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kind of < 1360433418 688431 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? sgeolang < 1360433420 517201 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeolang? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1360433461 343552 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-99-87-86.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn sgeolang currently is either J or Io. < 1360433465 95408 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1360433529 155626 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless it's Cecil < 1360433531 793019 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or the other Io < 1360433540 243043 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe Diesel. Does Diesel still exist? < 1360433551 367934 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's been a while since I broke my brain failing to understand gBeta < 1360433622 501664 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are multiple ioes? < 1360433693 388073 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1360433805 272127 :Mathnerd314!~quassel@palevsky-223-221.rh.uchicago.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1360433881 649418 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, I like Io's exception stuff < 1360433899 645783 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty cool to just wrap something in try and it returns an exception if there was.... wait < 1360433938 399894 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which io are you looking at < 1360433940 980036 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it the continuation one < 1360433960 863501 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1360433972 514772 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what I meant by the "other" Io though < 1360434423 262189 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1360434428 831347 :DH____!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1360434560 208375 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-99-87-86.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There exists at least one relatively simple number system with single radix such that 1111 + 1100 = 1011 < 1360434574 636576 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-99-87-86.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No there isn't < 1360434586 210196 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-99-87-86.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well, there may be) < 1360434596 136004 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-99-87-86.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(just I've made a mistake that means that I'm wrong) < 1360434628 509686 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-99-87-86.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :11011 + 11000 = 10011 < 1360435079 834881 :Mathnerd314!~quassel@palevsky-223-221.rh.uchicago.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1360435193 597568 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i 'love' reading copy-pasted code < 1360435201 112543 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like one of those 'spot the differences' picture puzzles < 1360435451 682712 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have been guilty of copy/pasted code < 1360435457 787224 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Including in that Tcl code I wrote < 1360435468 512143 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably why Transcriptic never talked to me again :'( < 1360437011 773134 :DH____!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1360437017 832206 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1360437485 27837 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1360438059 890089 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1360439134 534587 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1360439139 830144 :DH____!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1360441119 551910 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1360441177 528547 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1360441178 26475 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott said 6h 24m 32s ago: re: * oerjan is still annoyed by whoever replaced his carefully crafted ASCII graph without crossing edges with a picture with crossing edges, even if it's prettier < 1360441178 212025 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :graphics < 1360441178 212225 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott said 6h 24m 26s ago: http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?title=Eodermdrome&diff=22229&oldid=14568 < 1360441191 376096 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yeah i already checked < 1360441276 810887 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I've complained about the edge-crossings-for-a-planar-graph problem before. I wonder if it's automagically generated. < 1360441334 840439 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assume timwi just put it into some graph visualizer < 1360441410 777770 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :from the ascii graph i made, it was almost trivial to read out all the properties listed. < 1360441492 471003 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just revert it < 1360441509 72168 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it _is_ prettier graphics too :( < 1360441536 907908 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clearly you must both do it in your layout but with prettier graphics. < 1360441904 798873 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1360441913 253813 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but timwi obviously didn't upload it in an easily editable format < 1360441939 199895 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1360441988 532366 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :my brain protests against learning a drawing program for this. < 1360442010 484155 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(MS Paint's quality was obviously inadequate, i tried.) < 1360442050 799228 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages? < 1360442051 254978 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, no messages today. < 1360442072 705337 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: use html tables < 1360442073 650013 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and my memories of getting letters placed just right in xfig are not positive. < 1360442077 316329 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and css hacks < 1360442082 382637 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something < 1360442107 101922 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i don't actually know those either. you can do line drawing? < 1360442145 573735 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :with enough hacks you can do anything! < 1360442150 694004 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunately without enough hacks, you can't do anything. < 1360442169 728346 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well what my brain protests against is really anything that isn't just point and click. < 1360442280 213512 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :open an on-screen keyboard < 1360442340 457555 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean point and click to get lines to start and end in the right place. and also to adjust automatically when i move the boxes. actually xfig _could_ do that... too bad i'm on windows now. < 1360442343 660859 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo learning the basics of using inkscape was a good time investment < 1360442365 631674 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: There are point-and-click things online. Like draw.io or something. < 1360442380 472728 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :xfig sucks < 1360442398 890850 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :inkscape may suck on windows / mac though < 1360442404 812611 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is pretty usable on linux < 1360442426 913641 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: please don't discuss this subject in ways that discourage me further. thank you. < 1360442489 528437 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION finds winfig
< 1360442546 451294 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : k < 1360442570 101244 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just pirate illustrator < 1360442602 85080 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't see a reasonable argument against any of the things like draw.io that you can just point a browser at and draw. < 1360442619 184970 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: many of the microsoft office programs can do that; powerpoint is probably the best at it that's relatively cheap < 1360442625 117161 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(visio is better but it's mindboggingly expensive) < 1360442625 302869 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually you can pirate Adobe Creative Suite CS2 from Adobe's own website < 1360442635 694552 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: yeah but you're not supposed to < 1360442645 784427 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why i said "pirate" and not "legally download" < 1360442649 861233 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't have any office programs < 1360442699 691862 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what you really need is a vector drawing program < 1360442715 117267 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :inkscape's the best known, I think, but I don't know much about it < 1360442717 764251 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, you need a graph drawing program, of which there are quite a few. < 1360442776 536275 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, right < 1360442785 911544 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The one in draw.io lets you make one node, then draw a connection from it to empty space, and when you release it, it creates a duplicate of the node you started from, meaning you get to specify the shape and size you want just once. < 1360442787 75326 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't actually know what oerjan's problem is, because I haven't checked scrollback < 1360442797 321365 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Then you double-click and edit the label, and that's about it.) < 1360442804 213926 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :before when I joined, I mean < 1360442813 752377 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i want to fix the eodermdrome initial graph drawing < 1360442822 761576 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah right < 1360442849 958094 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, so if you care about efficiency, ST actually mixes two *different* concerns that require rank-2 to be safe... < 1360442851 717864 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :draw.io doesn't load. < 1360442910 850923 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It works fine for me, which admittedly isn't helpful. (I'm twiddling together a graph there at the moment, just for the funs.) < 1360442938 565564 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't there the "DOT" graph visualization? < 1360442978 324798 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: oh it worked when i changed https to http in the google link < 1360443003 794521 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yes, it's okay if you want to put no effort into the layout, but it often does things stupidly and there aren't good tools for adjusting it < 1360443007 637263 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that i've found anyway < 1360443081 805638 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm an idiot. I just forced myself into a position where I have to explain monads to C# people < 1360443082 673041 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: It comes with a tool. Oh, you said "good tools". Never mind, then. < 1360443167 246316 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeo can you explain monads to me < 1360443409 817893 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which tool does it come with? < 1360443416 229099 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: dotty. < 1360443443 180051 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy, this is about that http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0EF0VTs9Dc < 1360443456 170586 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Something like https://dl.dropbox.com/u/113389132/Misc/20130209-eoderm.png for example would follow your layout but with boxes. < 1360443463 776658 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :c00kiemon5ter: so i hear < 1360443605 93577 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: almost perfect, but would it be hard to get the letters slightly lower down in the boxes? < 1360443606 195977 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Sgeo please say another word for monad (if not atom,particle mean)" < 1360443629 160553 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also ideally -t-h- should be a straight line, i think < 1360443633 487354 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Curiously enough, they are in the interface; PNG export made them be in the current stupid place. I'll try some other export. < 1360443641 965794 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Though now that I look at your ASCII graph, I can't help noticing there's no edge between r and o. < 1360443654 765356 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I missed it. < 1360443660 810509 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was that goes-around-the-whole-thing one. < 1360443683 630113 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, it seemed impossible not to have one of those < 1360443842 11612 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: there are any number of monad tutorials you could link them to… < 1360443862 254294 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should do that < 1360443924 630250 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: it seems like the "y" is perfectly placed, but the rest gets skewed because of missing under or extra over parts < 1360444043 741668 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I think it has just put the letter baselines in the middle of the box. I'll see if something can be done. Is https://dl.dropbox.com/u/113389132/Misc/20130209-eoderm2.png layoutwise okay, though? < 1360444128 314017 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :has there been any feedback on my omnipotent BF Joust program? or the one before? < 1360444138 374797 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I even went and wrote them up, now I want someone to comment on them >:( < 1360444145 467095 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Linky? < 1360444151 193219 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(For the lazy) < 1360444153 198846 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aka me < 1360444197 100994 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Last I looked at Timwi's version, it seemed to me that with very few edits it would've made an edge-crossing-free graph with somewhat more equal edge lengths. (If only it were sensibly editable.) < 1360444197 680030 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/BF_Joust_strategies#2013 < 1360444257 800552 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yes i noticed you didn't need too many changes, although i think you'd force a long curve then too < 1360444273 289995 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :between the o and r < 1360444282 901173 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1360444333 828715 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: as for your layout it's okay but i'd ideally like the placement to be more symmetric along each major line. < 1360444354 168913 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I don't understand the terminology well enough :( < 1360444385 779872 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/113389132/Misc/20130209-eoderm3.png has letters in a slightly more reasonable positions (it's from the SVG export), though arguably now they're a little too low. < 1360444400 710899 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: well that entire page is about explaining it, but I can talk you through it myself if you ask questions < 1360444428 771517 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh, I'll read it later < 1360444436 910431 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My eye hurts a little from lack of sleep < 1360444495 16490 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :< move the tape pointer away from the opponent < 1360444495 239810 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> move the tape pointer toward the opponent < 1360444497 70222 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `move' < 1360444497 255929 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Perhaps you meant `mode' (imported from Text.PrettyPr... < 1360444524 748764 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Imagine if < and > moved away and from the opponent's current memory pointer, rather than goal < 1360444556 843380 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-99-87-86.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How would they behave when the two players are in the same place < 1360444587 561414 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know! < 1360444592 443643 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Both players die < 1360444601 766102 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds like a good way to make it impossible for anyone to win < 1360444602 199229 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-99-87-86.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't move? < 1360444627 909316 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.115.38.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :traceroute 216.81.59.173 :-) < 1360444629 743611 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you have to understand BF Joust to propose random changes to it and have them make sense < 1360444635 837037 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: what's special about that IP? < 1360444636 501613 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could be toward/away from enemy goal in that case. Not a good solution, but there will be some implications < 1360444659 413736 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.115.38.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: trace it and you'll see :-P < 1360444667 348966 :Slereah_!x@ANantes-259-1-241-212.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello folks < 1360444684 875359 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I can advertise my new BF Joust program at impomatic too, now he's here < 1360444711 41590 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i guess it's a _bit_ better. can you move the t-h more vertically like the j-x and the v more horizontally like the q? ideally i'd like the l-a-z-y-d to be symmetrically placed between the e and o, but it might be hard to fit with the rest on the right < 1360444726 999496 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: http://esolangs.org/wiki/BF_Joust_strategies#2013 < 1360444744 23813 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I had made an alternative, more "griddy" look of https://dl.dropbox.com/u/113389132/Misc/20130209-eoderm4.png before you said that. < 1360444744 209680 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.115.38.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Definitely, looking now :-) < 1360444780 465217 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic, wtf < 1360444785 399971 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how < 1360444787 56570 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1360444799 396889 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could make that one a bit more symmetric. < 1360444825 362061 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: hm yes if you move l-a-z-y-d in that a bit, it would look nice in a different way. < 1360444842 345900 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think. < 1360445000 183028 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/113389132/Misc/20130209-eoderm5.png has l-a-z-y-d symmetric w.r.t. e/o, though I did fiddle with the o-w-n-f-o loop a bit too. < 1360445022 892753 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Sgeo: there are any number of monad tutorials you could link them to… <-- i suddenly wonder if there's a monad tutorial for stoners < 1360445245 936294 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION defines the "any number" as the number of currently existing monad tutorials; it changes over time
< 1360445267 326046 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i say you upload that one :) < 1360445306 313326 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.115.38.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders if it's possible to mimic space_hotel's decoy to confuse omnipotence :-P
< 1360445326 811368 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose I will need to pngcrunch it, because that has been done to the existing file too. < 1360445368 593298 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also it currently has a transparent background, but maybe that is not a problem. < 1360445398 12913 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :we'll have to check that < 1360445446 129513 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the current graph is on a white background anyway < 1360445470 276889 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno if there are skins that make it different < 1360445667 94556 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : and covariant/contravariant are confusing <-- just use "variant" and "ntravariant" hth < 1360445706 274557 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :good moerjaning < 1360445724 418319 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the hi < 1360445724 603964 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is (hopefully) done. Also made the version on the page to be the native size now that it's somewhat smaller overall; though it's still a bit bigger than what it was before. < 1360445782 769497 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :um i thought it looked smaller. < 1360445795 437371 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :than timwi's that is. < 1360445809 181472 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes, but the old one was with |300px on the page. < 1360445844 506164 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1360445859 424973 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was looking at an old diff, which confused me < 1360445870 466035 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the picture changed but not the page) < 1360445897 829654 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if the official way would've been to upload a different picture, and use that. < 1360445908 86450 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since it's not really a new "version" of the previous picture. < 1360445908 825097 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: it's been a pleasure working with you sir (cackles madly) < 1360445939 984838 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the work others do for you is the best) < 1360445957 169505 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also maybe the recommended way working with Mediawiki would've been to insert the SVG version and let it create the rasterizations? I don't know. It's all so multimedia these days.) < 1360445983 729090 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: oh right it probably is. < 1360445990 749691 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523 probably knows better. < 1360446013 469222 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :MediaWiki comes with optional SVG rasterization, I don't know if Esolang has it instaled < 1360446015 882425 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*installed < 1360446024 195801 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it does, you just upload the SVG file and everything just works < 1360446128 524861 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: If it's installed, and you include an uploaded SVG image on a page, does it actually put a raster version on the page, or does it expect browsers these days to manage SVG? < 1360446182 867004 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it puts a raster version on the page < 1360446224 398393 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm isn't it a bit bad that mediawiki historical article versions are shown with new versions of pictures? < 1360446303 205032 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably that applies to templates too. < 1360446332 958727 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: indeed, it does < 1360446365 532925 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps it would be even more confusing the other way. < 1360446377 81416 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[".svg" is not a permitted file type. Permitted file types are png, gif, jpg, jpeg.]] I guess that's a no-go. (Well, less work for me.) < 1360446403 481133 :ogrom!~del@143.122.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee QUIT :Quit: Left < 1360446449 757146 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a way to link to the original editable version of a picture? < 1360446480 216936 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do i enable svg < 1360446611 535958 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you need to install an extension, I think < 1360446620 794003 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also an SVG renderer < 1360446636 536172 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like work < 1360446671 515574 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's a good way to have email at my domain name? < 1360446699 146052 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you actually bought shach.af? < 1360446710 870263 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: a lot of registrars will run free email forwarding for you < 1360446712 983283 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is the lazy way < 1360446726 680103 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The sooner I'm not dependent on my dad's money the better < 1360446839 71837 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should get hachaf.net so I can have the emails s@hachaf.net and t@hachaf.net (for when people want to thank me). < 1360446848 172732 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the harder way is to hire or buy a mailserver, and point the domain name at the mailserver < 1360446862 159340 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what I did with nethack4.org < 1360446866 116793 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which is a lots-of-things server) < 1360446875 349018 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(although mostly nethack 4) < 1360447014 360000 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The middling way is presumably then to buy a mail redirection service you can point your own domain to. (I'm sure there are some.) < 1360447060 166348 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Incidentally, does MediaWiki have a "git blame" style view? I remember seeing a thing like that in something, but it might've been Confluence or some-such. < 1360447074 2174 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: not by default < 1360447078 652199 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's probably an extension that does it by now < 1360447080 923889 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :when i was in high school i thought it great fun to run my own DNS and MX and such < 1360447089 449463 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :now it all seems like a total pain < 1360447091 675327 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't run my own DNS < 1360447096 617151 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do run my own mailserver, though < 1360447116 205350 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i used djb approved software < 1360447117 979285 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for everything < 1360447130 310550 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :djbdns, qmail, publicfile < 1360447139 54349 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :on openbsd < 1360447150 462416 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was one of the cool kids in high school for sure < 1360447166 297761 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: did you use /package < 1360447202 494321 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1360447207 901758 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: what's git blame? i found on wikipedia an option for a button that gives you much more readable diffs for confusing edits < 1360447212 928136 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that djb's wacky init system that nobody else uses? < 1360447265 242897 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: The same as "svn annotate", it gives you a copy of the file with every line annotated with the revision (and committer) when it was last changed. < 1360447265 845605 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1360447268 382934 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :djb doesnt have an init system < 1360447274 543593 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's daemontools that you can run as pid 1 if you do hackery < 1360447282 769372 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so not the same < 1360447329 745165 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :by init system i meant not a replacement for /sbin/init but, like, a daemonizer < 1360447334 775852 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :poor choice of words < 1360447337 693620 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway yes i used that thing < 1360447346 526077 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(wikEdDiff in the Gadget section, btw) < 1360447371 284366 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: /package is his weirdo packaging system < 1360447396 974350 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Not quite, no. It's (sometimes) useful when the question you have is "who's responsible for this piece of text". (Of course sometimes all it tells you is who fixed the commas in it.) < 1360447426 811793 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the gadget things are written entirely in JS and CSS < 1360447450 24386 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should get an SSL certificate. < 1360447453 772237 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact, there's a large amount of stuff done like that that would be better done server-side, because of the ratio of the number of people who can work on client-side extensions, and on server-side extensions < 1360447493 825187 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: http://www.startssl.com/ will give you one for free < 1360447521 798190 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway yes < 1360447531 757677 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should run a HTTPS-only website with HSTS < 1360447537 982474 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you can get one for free why do some people charge lots of money for them? < 1360447544 597357 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and only allow RC4 and GCM-mode AES < 1360447548 843091 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't get all that much for free from StartSSL. < 1360447549 303789 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know < 1360447553 404818 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i think i saw someone desiring to merge that diff gadget into mediawiki proper, but it would require rewriting it in PHP. or maybe it was something else. < 1360447555 175698 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wildcard certs is one < 1360447568 396528 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :StartSSL will give you a cert that is good for www.shachaf.net and shachaf.net but not *.shachaf.net < 1360447575 18199 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can however request another one with s/www/whatever/ < 1360447580 408849 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/desiring to/desiring that someone/ < 1360447586 281246 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wildcard certs are a scam < 1360447593 956644 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It also won't give you a cert that's good for www.shachaf.net, shachaf.net and servername.shachaf.net at the same time. < 1360447598 377342 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's no technical reason why they cost a lot more than specific certs < 1360447618 597108 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: s/^wildcard // < 1360447620 337376 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the certificate companies can get away with charging more for them, so they do < 1360447622 312114 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well yes < 1360447627 410144 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's all, just, bits, man < 1360447631 621154 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a small fee to allow for verification cost would be reasonable < 1360447636 654844 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you consider anything where pricing is set demand-side to be a 'scam' < 1360447636 841017 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they charge more than that /and/ they don't verify :) < 1360447720 813896 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :As for getting multiple certificates for your different names, you need to use a not-supported-everywhere SSL/TLS extension (SNI) in order to use those with a single IP address. < 1360447743 268576 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How unsupported? < 1360447748 724835 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why's that? < 1360447752 200611 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"As of November 2012, the only major user bases whose browsers do not support SNI appear to be users of Internet Explorer 8 or below on Windows XP and versions of Java before 1.7 on any operating system." < 1360447764 184830 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :As of November 2012, the only major user bases whose browsers do not support SNI appear to be users of Internet Explorer 8 or below on Windows XP and versions of Java before 1.7 on any operating system. < 1360447768 173494 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1360447776 841602 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh server name whatever < 1360447783 798784 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because SSL setup happens before a HTTP Host: header is sent, right < 1360447789 553791 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1360447817 927249 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Admittedly it *is* quite widely supported by now. < 1360447846 316272 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also you don't get anything else than an email address inserted into the free StartSSL certificate. < 1360447856 59296 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :On the other hand, nobody will look at the certificate contents ever either, so... < 1360447856 433983 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Language idea: A language where you write CPS-style code manually, but the syntax of the language is such that it feels natural <-- that's essentially levin's IO (not the modern language called IO) < 1360447961 126148 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: the "or below" is redundant, since IE >= 9 doesn't work on XP. < 1360447964 598744 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: aka do notation < 1360447971 990557 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: good idea or bad idea? I wanted to restart Chromium without losing my currently opened tabs < 1360447977 410212 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I did killall -SEGV chromium-browser < 1360447983 422262 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it would think it had crashed, and try to recover < 1360447983 634579 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I do killall -9 chromium < 1360447986 529778 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: hm is that writing it manually though? < 1360447988 247246 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I suppose then the "8" is redundant too. < 1360447998 621730 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: seems like a fairly ill-defined notion < 1360447999 725048 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed. < 1360448006 120845 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: do is at least the "most general" CPS notation < 1360448010 500790 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mother of all monads etc. < 1360448051 281495 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well ok >>= is CPS, so i guess. < 1360448083 551780 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: right, and do notation never uses "return" < 1360448086 24507 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is just (>>=) < 1360448090 618301 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(+ fail, but for irrelevant reasons) < 1360448096 977042 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(+ (>>), but that's obviously irrelevant also) < 1360448100 143143 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :do notation is writing CPS manually. < 1360448106 429923 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not terribly expensive to go through StartSSL's identity validation, after which you can generate as many certificates as you like -- with expiration dates up to two years in the future -- during the 350 days that it's valid, and get your own name on them. (Apparently it's $60 now; I think it used to be cheaper.) < 1360448112 625092 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suspect Java 1.7 isn't supported on XP either, i keep getting patches for 1.6 and no suggestion to upgrade. < 1360448120 768903 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: That's the point. < 1360448154 876886 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Right. I'm agreeing with you(/whoever said it). < 1360448192 971223 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: my understanding is that the continuation IO language defines ; to basically be a pass-a-continuation lambda, right? < 1360448199 548203 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's how I see do notation < 1360448206 705546 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(except you write the lambda's parameter a statement early) < 1360448217 869322 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : so I did killall -SEGV chromium-browser <-- well did it work? < 1360448222 778040 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes < 1360448228 439837 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do { foo -> x; bar -> y; return z } -- I can imagine this as a possible alternate do notation syntax < 1360448234 335351 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd be nice if there was a less obscure way to do that < 1360448237 15459 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :where you have lambda syntax (-> var; body) < 1360448244 186478 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's right-associative < 1360448248 872308 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about idiom brackets? < 1360448251 931531 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a kind of CPS. < 1360448253 335861 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can see that's literally writing CPS, the "do" part now does nothing < 1360448258 518323 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except not really. < 1360448275 594463 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's always the monad-embed sort of CPSing. < 1360448279 260596 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Applicatives are do notation where you never reference any of the variables you bind until the last statement. < 1360448296 236774 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: IO syntax is iirc f x y -> var ; g z ... < 1360448296 422852 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Right. < 1360448296 608921 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :More or less. < 1360448300 711461 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well... < 1360448305 392992 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And also the last statement is return. < 1360448325 861780 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :where -> vars ; ... is a continuation. < 1360448342 392092 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :do notation isn't strictly CPS. < 1360448345 121922 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's pretty close. < 1360448402 705037 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and the -> vars is optional if the continuation takes no arguments) < 1360448484 505350 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: so it's what I said < 1360448491 844890 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can just change the tokens and get < 1360448494 975874 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :f x y \ var -> g z ... < 1360448495 439960 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :etc. < 1360448507 753003 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess the difference with IO is you only have m () values, not m a) < 1360448510 180700 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*-) < 1360448515 714052 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Io < 1360448521 513576 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if you accept that Io is writing continuations "manually" and "directly" as can be < 1360448528 284417 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only leap to do notation is that you move where the variable is bound < 1360448539 486266 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which IMO is completely syntactic enough to still be direct < 1360448653 189259 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need f x y $ \ var -> g z ... to get syntactically correct haskell though < 1360448715 776558 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes. but that's just an issue of operator precedence, really < 1360448729 736255 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :consider $ \ as one token if you like < 1360448804 510220 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's an issue of those right-gobbling expression forms not being acceptable directly as arguments to functions, only operators. but minor difference. < 1360448813 316026 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1360448951 802364 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : how much heat can a human handle? <-- i think they pretty much settled that at that fateful "sports" event, no? < 1360448994 944809 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Sauna_Championships < 1360449004 706019 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess the _dry_ case may still be open, hth < 1360449084 581797 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :two nicks and both idle < 1360449127 817682 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait is high humidity supposedly worse < 1360449139 554229 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess i'll leave the science to the finns. < 1360449177 784749 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Humidity makes sweating less effective < 1360449225 40644 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :* Sgeo is now reading about a different Io language <-- hey no fair finding the solution before i tell you < 1360449248 597409 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I knew he said that all along and was hiding it from you < 1360449272 588469 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT'S NOT FAIR < 1360449353 741104 :Mathnerd314!~quassel@palevsky-223-221.rh.uchicago.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1360449355 562199 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : By changing Io's stdlib, could I make it such that non-name-colliding monkeypatching is possible? <-- is hygienic monkeypatching a known term, please say yes < 1360449375 526202 :Mathnerd314!~quassel@palevsky-223-221.rh.uchicago.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1360449409 440807 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sadly google search is not optimistic < 1360449434 758920 :Mathnerd314!~quassel@palevsky-223-221.rh.uchicago.edu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1360449547 787578 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do Scala implicit conversions count? < 1360449610 112618 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : traceroute 216.81.59.173 < 1360449636 305942 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :had to add -m 100 (actually 64) < 1360449650 92506 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I originally thought that nortti intended to type that into console to do stuff < 1360449656 17140 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :When impomatic said it is when I tried it < 1360449657 736782 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-99-87-86.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Same < 1360449682 267845 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-99-87-86.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My interesting traceroute comment referred to elliott's hi < 1360449699 865798 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :when impomatic said it is when i pasted it into a terminal window, then forgot about it until i found nortti in the logs. < 1360449709 600301 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: traceroute: command not found < 1360449710 868577 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :good route < 1360449747 669425 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :might be under something administrative? < 1360449769 148777 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION doesn't remember what that prefix is
< 1360449800 877286 :nortti!~juhani@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :sbin? < 1360449807 265656 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that may be it < 1360449838 568232 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, oh, didn't realize there was more to it than the little I saw < 1360449841 311760 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sudo: traceroute: command not found < 1360449862 813590 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah without -m it got cut off early < 1360449946 572563 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it's not restricted here at nvg... < 1360450019 673286 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just dont have it installed < 1360450030 985668 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :TRAGEDY < 1360450084 556853 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :never actually reached the 216.81.59.173 IP btw < 1360450123 269813 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok so what is the thing < 1360450148 897592 :Mathnerd314!~quassel@palevsky-223-221.rh.uchicago.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1360450343 617829 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: http://sprunge.us/dNgW < 1360450358 411715 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1360450391 89654 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :WARNING: it feels better to do it yourself with traceroute. < 1360450645 461083 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :too late < 1360450656 72496 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sad trombone < 1360450916 684342 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"tracepath" is what I did it with. < 1360450925 539222 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems to have ended up being installed by default, unlike traceroute. < 1360450993 15416 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ubuntu-standard depends on iputils-tracepath, but not on traceroute/inetutils-traceroute.) < 1360453559 643269 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I had that graph editor open, so I clicked together also a straight-lines-only crossing-free version starting from the Timwi layout; I don't think it's æsthetically an improvement, but I'm sure it'd win in some metrics: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/113389132/Misc/20130209-eoderm8.png < 1360453725 973524 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1360453841 386325 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's also even more compact.) < 1360453952 860695 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you supply a non-planar graph to eodermdrone? < 1360454078 738490 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1360454111 223480 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, why not? < 1360454187 105365 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :certainly < 1360454191 676846 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-99-87-86.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think abcdeacebda is planar, for example < 1360454208 468685 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1360454230 493865 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was this || close to giving a much longer K_5. < 1360454235 375342 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I suppose that's what it is?) < 1360454237 8532 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aka "eodermdrome" hth < 1360454255 776471 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooooh, I never knew *that*. < 1360454275 76442 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like onions upon onions. < 1360454277 537649 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, layers. < 1360454330 659011 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :) '+';'-' @. 0 < 1360454331 104782 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: |domain error < 1360454331 290538 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: | '+'; '-'@.0 < 1360454396 254149 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :) '+`- @. 0 < 1360454396 711399 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: |open quote < 1360454396 897486 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: | '+`- @. 0 < 1360454396 897672 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: | ^