< 1361577672 246098 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`list < 1361577676 560364 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :cuttlefish boily elliott Taneb HackEgo Sgeo monqy pikhq Sgeo_ tswett Phantom_Hoover nortti oklopol < 1361577723 284498 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION gives Sgeo a gentle poke
< 1361577748 593415 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hopefully not of death < 1361577752 264302 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :THIS IS NOT THE `LIST YOU ARE LOOKING FOR < 1361577788 669543 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/WELCOME < 1361577791 57251 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ welcome "$@" | perl -pe '$_ = uc' < 1361577795 225119 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wanted to be sure no unwanted names snuck on it < 1361577821 89809 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just sgeo three times < 1361577840 988271 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"i'm only on there twice?" < 1361577860 105237 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not any more you aren't < 1361577863 106184 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how'd you get hackego on it? < 1361577870 867511 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo $(which list) < 1361577873 495419 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/list < 1361577879 851476 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow that was dumb < 1361577882 496011 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat $(which list) < 1361577886 489270 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ oldpwd=`pwd`; cd /var/irclogs/_esoteric; name=$(cat $(ls ????-??-??.txt | tail -1) | tail -1 | sed "s/[^<]*.*//; s/.*\* //; s/ .*//"); cd $oldpwd; fgrep -q "$name" bin/list || echo -n "$name " >> bin/list; echo cuttlefish boily elliott Taneb HackEgo Sgeo monqy pikhq Sgeo_ tswett Phantom_Hoover nortti oklopol < 1361577905 41568 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it has a check < 1361577925 46234 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork, it's not perfect < 1361577941 87260 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does it do? < 1361577967 827942 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :list? adds whoever's running it to itself < 1361577998 453090 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, echo -n >> file doesn't add a newline so it ends up adding to the last line of the script? < 1361578038 33867 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than adding a new line (which I think the script is lacking some code to handle) < 1361578303 842395 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1361578466 621171 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1361578536 359987 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361578886 702661 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, what was it that went in the bit left over by UTF-63? < 1361578903 775983 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :cthulhu < 1361578904 233268 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1361579065 549048 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, are you talking about http://www.unicode.org/mail-arch/unicode-ml/y2001-m05/0425.html ? < 1361579100 703459 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Distinguishes between ASCII and Unicode < 1361579155 166762 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :although (2^64)/(1114111^3) is actually 13.34, so there's a lot more than a bit left over < 1361579247 69112 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-137-85.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1361579248 443223 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: that's very similar to what I was talking about but not it < 1361579290 769263 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 2^64/1114111^3 :: Double < 1361579292 662399 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 13.339339806819668 < 1361579318 273833 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if there are unicode squiggly numerals to indicate approximations < 1361579360 213890 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 2^64/1114112^3 :: Double < 1361579361 818134 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 13.339303887645023 < 1361579366 922218 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 2^64/1114112^3 :: Rational < 1361579368 487719 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 65536 % 4913 < 1361579472 540704 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :combining squiggle above < 1361579555 374864 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: hm let's reserve it for pointer tagging < 1361579590 383691 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we can have a language with heap pointers and primitive triples-of-unicode-codepoints as the basic datatypes < 1361579612 630288 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently 10fffe and 10ffff are noncharacters (and so are xxfffe/ff for all the other planes) < 1361579628 610514 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1361579632 686546 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 2^64/1114110^3 :: Rational < 1361579634 169206 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2305843009213693952 % 172859889139941375 < 1361579644 972032 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 2^64/1114110^3 :: Double < 1361579645 974779 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good ratio < 1361579646 769514 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 13.339375726123272 < 1361579656 668374 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also U+D800 through U+DFFF < 1361579669 740513 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :so much wasted space! < 1361579837 28634 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, of course, 4913 is 17^3 < 1361579906 758530 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the secret illuminati numerology in unicode < 1361579909 385323 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can use 16 bit per character plus a somewhat compact encoding of the plane for each, and then have 64k/17^3 values left to play with < 1361580158 551572 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1361580286 273237 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1361580462 937902 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361581009 803029 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dreamt about a very strange chess variant, with multiple boards, each piece having four stats (strength, defense, intelligence, and teleport token), if your high priest entered your opponent's church then you gained control over eclipses, and there were various other rules < 1361581043 335646 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :control over eclipses sounds kickass < 1361581160 159631 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, pawns promoted into royalty < 1361581238 555603 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION promotes zzo38 to King
< 1361581660 775551 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did intelligence do? < 1361581674 447111 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. < 1361581688 593485 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A lot of these things I don't know. < 1361582076 903672 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1361582077 560014 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but can it be combined with continuous chess < 1361582107 700911 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. < 1361582175 419750 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What I did know is that if any of the stats other than teleport token reach zero, the piece is removed from the game. < 1361582205 301392 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Otherwise, all of them (including teleport token) which are damaged will recover by one point at the end of each frame. < 1361582358 788146 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how exactly does the teleport work? < 1361582403 457313 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to learn how to play continuous chess < 1361582430 788047 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know exactly, but you can teleport from one board to another, if you have the correct terrains on the board (maybe eclipses affects it too, I don't know for sure) < 1361582484 347 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :change intelligence to speed < 1361582497 25787 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :make it the maximum number of spaces you can move < 1361582571 389587 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, the movements have to do with what kind of pieces it is (like in chess); I think intelligence has something to do with what cards you can play, or something related to that < 1361582599 446369 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually I think strength and defense also have something to do with what cards you are allowed to play < 1361582610 461166 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh cards < 1361582620 516207 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds complicated < 1361582633 551909 :NuclearMeltdown!~rep@AntiLiberal-1-pt.tunnel.tserv9.chi1.ipv6.he.net QUIT :Changing host < 1361582633 727864 :NuclearMeltdown!~rep@unaffiliated/antiliberal JOIN :#esoteric < 1361582781 615945 :dessos!~dessos@c-174-60-176-249.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1361582856 707980 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : I want to learn how to play continuous chess < 1361582862 185129 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this consists of learning the rules < 1361582877 338441 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, where can I read them? < 1361582880 371108 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although with a new revision, you can now move all your pawn as one < 1361582884 114198 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, trawl the logs < 1361582893 794251 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or i guess i could actually write them up < 1361582912 61369 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will love you forever if you write them up < 1361582937 388400 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(note: some/all of prior statement may be hyperbole or falsE) < 1361583276 257487 :GOMADWarrior!~Regis@186.222.62.175 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361583584 270679 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/ZDHO < 1361583585 281858 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i give no guarantees that you will be able to make any sense of this < 1361583585 282019 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. > 1361597055 354556 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361597056 121844 :glogbot!codu@codu.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1361597057 285636 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@64.31.59.246 PART :#esoteric < 1361597058 575430 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1361597058 874075 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org JOIN :#esoteric > 1361597059 483367 JOIN :#esoteric > 1361597059 998630 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361597060 998591 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@64.31.59.246 QUIT :Excess Flood < 1361597140 70021 :Gregor!codu@codu.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1361597140 981698 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@77.122.91.146 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361597150 116539 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's perverse that, when buying a SSL cert, you have no direct incentive to pick a CA with good security practices < 1361597163 205559 :Gregor!codu@codu.org NICK :Guest2624 < 1361597207 698046 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1361597243 358496 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if CA compromise implied customer compromise, would that actually be better for society? < 1361597250 283607 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably not because most cert buyers are clueless < 1361597255 684325 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :trace execution (when you have N extra RISC cores replicating what the first core did and you space memory IO so that only one core is really using it at the same time) needs instruction cache :( < 1361597266 722426 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"wow gee 1024 bits" < 1361597275 253783 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"twice as secure as 512" < 1361597288 222080 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::o < 1361597352 728298 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr is on a mission to eliminate caches < 1361597367 693631 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or else once you do a memory op, that's like multiple memory ops < 1361597386 472780 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you can't keep your pipeline full unless you have the next instructions cached somewhere :( < 1361597482 394879 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc : no cache = easier no? :D < 1361597666 418036 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually you could probably do a design without cache but if you have 8 units it stalls for 7 cycles every time you load something < 1361597865 584298 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://quarkphysics.ca/humour/humor10.html < 1361597898 389322 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is some impressively dated humor < 1361598005 297913 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-137-85.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1361598044 122661 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1361598228 996286 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@77.122.91.146 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1361598253 146936 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sigh* < 1361598274 768840 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The VP developer's response to "Any chance of documenting the protocol so I don't have to do C interop" is "Feel free to reverse-engineer the protocol" < 1361598292 527904 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha (jerk) < 1361598301 702880 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not literal phrasing of response) < 1361598307 162700 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :who's VP? < 1361598317 51517 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Virtual Paradise < 1361598333 731720 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a sort of AW clone < 1361598342 914347 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :advance wars? < 1361598352 553403 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Active Worlds < 1361598483 843671 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think he'd be willing to open-source even the SDK < 1361598484 860917 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :though < 1361598486 397805 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1361598496 613091 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If he was, I wouldn't mind so much < 1361598505 512952 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, he did give a bit of documentation < 1361598524 975851 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :" It's TCP, it sends a 16 bit unsigned int containing the length of a message followed by the message itself. The first byte in the message is the message type " < 1361598542 80665 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which I guess helps a little < 1361598656 881377 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :use KLEE to extract a protocol from the C library < 1361598660 554164 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :write PhD thesis < 1361598661 233176 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :profit < 1361598768 335378 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :extract a PhD thesis from the C library directly < 1361598871 625234 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :PhDaaS < 1361598950 391564 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I get spam like that sometimes. < 1361598969 646569 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a degree mill with a REST API < 1361598972 400619 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be something < 1361599016 787359 :Guest2624!codu@codu.org NICK :Gregor < 1361599017 981922 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, the squamish language uses 7 as a glottal stop. and it's not a glyph that looks like a seven, it is in fact a seven < 1361599084 77521 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :typewriter orthography < 1361599128 145548 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think huron has "8" (actually a modern version of the greek "ou" ligature) < 1361599154 567798 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: o_o < 1361599183 769439 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :american languages are the best, man < 1361599194 651332 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you seen inukitut orthography? that shit is choice. < 1361599208 399207 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i remember cherokee using like, a backwards B < 1361599244 170024 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ᐃᓄᒃᑎᑐᑦ < 1361599248 181391 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zhuang has 2-6 < 1361599254 826391 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cherokee's great. < 1361599271 618569 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Literally by a guy who only *saw* writing before. < 1361599287 642917 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but later on they replaced Zhuang 2,3,4,5,6 with z,j,x,q,h < 1361599317 588105 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :where is zhuang spoken? < 1361599323 539924 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :china somewhere < 1361599336 765586 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a lot of these languages were not written until fairly recently yeah? < 1361599349 967733 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's in the same family as thai < 1361599352 753268 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno < 1361599369 767854 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Yeah, North American languages largely have *recent* writing systems. < 1361599387 117435 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There just weren't that many writing systems pre-Europeans. < 1361599396 444105 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cherokee's alphabet was developed by a missionary i think? < 1361599399 404449 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what determines whether a group of people develop writing or not < 1361599400 186890 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or was it a newspaper < 1361599408 621937 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neither. < 1361599413 29419 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shit. < 1361599427 51014 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :invented by sequoyah, well now < 1361599427 780410 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike: no that's inuit < 1361599440 850543 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_Zhuang#Example < 1361599441 849757 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Latin script" < 1361599443 472412 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah right < 1361599444 779297 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"his was the only time in recorded history that a member of a non-literate people independently created an effective writing system." baller < 1361599450 329323 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the inuit one was originally developed for cree < 1361599450 807229 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sequoyah was a Cherokee man who *saw* writing, thought it was a good idea, and made a writing system for Cherokee. < 1361599463 463699 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is awesome. < 1361599467 706157 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"in recorded history" < 1361599482 934049 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose the earliest writing systems are on the edge of that < 1361599483 322239 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's wrong with that phrase? < 1361599508 110175 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: It's generally believed most other writing systems evolved out of proto-writing, rather than being wholy invented. < 1361599508 769768 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :writing systems were developed rather a long time before history we still have is < 1361599533 230825 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does written cherokee count as a conlang then < 1361599542 327115 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is certainly what we see with e.g. Chinese script. < 1361599551 398326 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which evolved basically out of a divination system. < 1361599558 268628 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: definitely a conscript. < 1361599558 559746 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't remember what's the current status on phoenician vs egyptian vs cuneiform < 1361599568 785493 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you mean the current status? < 1361599580 783699 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: and he hadn't even read zompist! < 1361599617 915700 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1361599628 625572 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, what the currently accepted reseach says on how they were invented < 1361599630 586017 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-166-9.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know who else wrote a script for savage people? < 1361599632 892473 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-166-9.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYRILUS < 1361599636 667865 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-166-9.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wayyy before < 1361599652 318880 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah he came up with glagolithic no? < 1361599666 67502 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-166-9.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :As far as I know the current theory is that cuneiform developed from a tally system? < 1361599667 205408 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-166-9.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like < 1361599668 671347 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which then got turfed out by a souped version of greek < 1361599670 112477 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-166-9.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :counting marks < 1361599677 341754 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1361599679 393818 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my favorite proto-writing is definitely the incan knots < 1361599694 382655 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-166-9.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Egyptian I think is unknown < 1361599702 706509 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the current theory says that phonician was inspired by egyptian < 1361599708 197557 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-166-9.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not even known if there's a primitive form of egyptian < 1361599714 877349 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-166-9.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or if it was created like that, bam < 1361599723 981549 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wasn't it given to them by thoth < 1361599732 900537 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-166-9.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Obviously an ALIEN < 1361599750 891425 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION learned Egyptian history from vague classicism
< 1361599764 950717 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :woa < 1361599781 634075 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zhuang had its own version of chinese characters before they switched to latin < 1361599785 857349 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-166-9.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Egyptian is still pretty spotty in places < 1361599787 321373 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-166-9.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like < 1361599795 177258 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr: I thought everything in the general area did. < 1361599796 493265 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-166-9.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :The phonological reconstruction is pretty hard < 1361599804 16449 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like Vietnamese. < 1361599806 946137 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-166-9.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although it has progressed a lot by looking at loans < 1361599825 380720 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-166-9.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like how egyptians wrote foreign words and vice versa < 1361599840 396816 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-166-9.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also coptic is descended from egyptian, so it helps < 1361599852 672193 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: The degrees to which they were "their own" varied though. < 1361599886 986885 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-166-9.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Although coptic itself is mostly extinct, so that's another problem) < 1361599889 435351 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: you mean the use of hanzi? yeah, i suppose a lot of it was by imperial edict < 1361599907 603030 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, Zhuang is spoken in Guanxi, didn't they have that massive earthquake last year? < 1361599936 109526 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Varying from "whole-sale adoption of the script" to "using the radicals to invent brand new characters" to "taking the concept, clearly having no idea what the radicals are, and making shit up". < 1361599944 861466 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, well yeah. < 1361599973 578620 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :None of Japanese or Korean or Vietnamese are even Sino-Tibetan, are they? < 1361600002 594543 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, yeah. < 1361600030 507743 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of those, Japanese and Korean use/used hanzi straight, while Vietnamese used the radicals to invent new characters. < 1361600033 647413 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i seem to remember kanji having different readings, based on a vaguely Chinese meaning map and a vaguely Japanese one < 1361600044 553497 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :on/kun or something? < 1361600071 193773 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, on'yomi and kun'yomi i guess < 1361600073 361045 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1361600085 761719 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's *great* is Tangut script. < 1361600095 109841 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But... that's pronunciation and not meaning, huh. < 1361600106 672961 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The more I learn about Japanese the more amazed I am anyone can figure it out... < 1361600141 759430 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tangut used the *concepts* of Chinese script, and made it all up from there. < 1361600174 333399 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like someone saw Chinese once. < 1361600194 739935 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Bushell's_1896_decipherment_of_Tangut_characters.jpg Fucking crazy. < 1361600197 337139 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :" < 1361600199 422311 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The [Tangut] language is remarkable for being written in one of the most inconvenient of all scripts, a collection of nearly 5,800 characters of the same kind as Chinese characters but rather more complicated; " i love it < 1361600240 752056 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What, those are numbers? < 1361600243 132005 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :日本語はこんなに難しくないと思うんだって…… < 1361600244 103767 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1361600250 906737 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eleven strokes for the number four? < 1361600262 791076 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1361600276 524084 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though I'm only counting 10. < 1361600281 688743 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess chinese wasn't complicated enough? < 1361600286 537290 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1361600296 291123 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION doesn't know how to count strokes
< 1361600300 766062 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, 11. < 1361600314 878493 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-6-64.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1361600314 892958 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-6-64.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1361600314 893156 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1361600338 813428 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a tiny bit hard to do with Tangut, because some of those strokes are fucking *strange*. < 1361600358 282416 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(how many strokes is that set that looks like ろ, anyways?) < 1361600364 465007 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :annihilated by genghis khan < 1361600417 649909 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm a bit amazed at the complete lack of pictographs. < 1361600448 671817 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most of the really basic Chinese glyphs are pictographic in origin. < 1361600474 413708 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to know how this Renrong guy came up with this. What was wrong with the Chinese numerals, for instance? < 1361600482 270926 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though the pictographicness of stuff like 馬 or 虎 is hard to tell. < 1361600628 195756 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh nice, the vietnamese had a sort of dialect of Chinese script for writing Chinese, and then their own Chinese script for writing Vietnamese. < 1361600668 892647 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.csd.uwo.ca/staff/magi/personal/humour/Computer_Audience/polyglot.%5Bcob|pas|f77|c|ps|sh|com%5D.html < 1361600678 839639 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :7 languages at once < 1361600692 18698 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that's a classic < 1361600693 430671 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are any of them Burman? < 1361600702 700926 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice comment delimiters < 1361600720 979672 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone here (Gregor?) wrote a crazy polyglot < 1361600787 761305 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did a shell/python/haskell/c/com/brainfuck one < 1361600795 900114 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is pretty short < 1361600813 35246 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I liked that one where you ran it in Ruby and got a C program out, and then ran that and got a shell proram, or whatever, and so on. < 1361600819 57060 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1361600826 245409 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about a polyglot in esolangs that have no comments? < 1361600889 894903 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could probably make a brainfuck/befunge polyglot pretty easily, insofar as befunge lacks comments < 1361600892 318172 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kinda wonder what programming would look like if it was invented by ppl that speak tonal languages < 1361600908 585064 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should shove C++ in too < 1361600916 907457 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would pronunciation matter? < 1361600922 659835 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :would probably all be stack based if it were invented by people that speak verb final languages :D < 1361600931 133963 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right, can't easily < 1361600939 510834 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike : the character set would definitely be different < 1361600954 960971 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if they spoke a tonal language that uses the latin alphabet, huh?? < 1361600968 309099 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably the most unpleasant thing about my polyglot is that it needs to start with a blank line < 1361600971 119963 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like vietnamese? hm < 1361600994 336100 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Knowing how programming goes, the character set regardless of whatever it was would be hacked together and *just enough* to represent language, to start with. < 1361601009 371432 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't thing how your natural language is pronounced is going to influence the basic ideas of recursive grammars < 1361601013 404489 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i'm not a linguist. < 1361601017 777559 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :might have just come up with sometehing like C but where tone marks count as part of identifiers < 1361601018 788560 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm imagining a crazy thing like Chinese script with *one* character of each pronunciation. < 1361601027 158562 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you just use it as a god-damned weird syllabary. < 1361601046 693632 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, Japanese folk would just shove in katakana. < 1361601048 82184 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :chinese used to be closer to that I think < 1361601049 364192 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like they did. < 1361601060 444784 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr: Chinese script is still syllabic in nature. < 1361601063 160415 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then with time some characters became homophones < 1361601076 710850 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Each glyph is still exactly one syllable. < 1361601078 817452 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but there are a lot more homophones now < 1361601097 683203 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, but not as many as in Japanese. < 1361601099 716864 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tone helps. < 1361601101 651669 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's also hard to draw conclusions about natural language -> formal language... I mean all European languages I know of are SVO but mathematical notation is pretty verb-initial, so to speak. < 1361601127 163414 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :supposedly classic chinese had about 5000 different syllables, down to about 3000 in cantonese, and down to 1200 in mandarin < 1361601136 381106 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr: Are you accounting for tones? < 1361601143 710243 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that even phonologically possible- oh, tones < 1361601145 572814 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :without tone mandarin is 400 < 1361601161 529869 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike: english has like 5000+ syllables too < 1361601179 969053 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For comparison, Japanese has maybe 80 possible morae. < 1361601193 692319 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, English has a shit-ton of syllables. < 1361601197 705184 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consonant clusters. < 1361601207 924395 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Remember, "strengths" is a single syllable. < 1361601218 423226 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION bad at phonetics :(
< 1361601289 825962 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah english tends to be dense < 1361601302 312004 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :due to so many consonant + vowel + consonant syllables < 1361601325 201765 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And consonant clusters are entirely permissible, which adds to it. < 1361601328 70717 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :English has an unusual amount of vowels < 1361601339 188530 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This too. < 1361601347 901292 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And moderately unusual consonants. < 1361601351 498989 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork : yeah but so do other northwestern european languages < 1361601351 659642 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and since that is a tigher limit raising it has the bigger effet < 1361601360 647514 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(though I don't think it's got too many consonants *in and of itself*...) < 1361601367 797343 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: nah, the consonant inventory is actually pretty standard < 1361601376 245628 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :except for th and the weird variety of r < 1361601387 473682 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :swedish has 9 < 1361601392 786243 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr: th and th are both pretty weird. < 1361601405 684995 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fuck it, þ and ð. There, that's better. < 1361601416 949914 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but they're like only 2 sounds < 1361601417 374997 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thud < 1361601426 731335 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :icelandic 4 lyfe < 1361601440 165405 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the rest of the consonant inventory is like a list of all the most common consonants in the world < 1361601464 773087 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: θ and ð < 1361601482 731903 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: þ and ð are how you write them in (hilariously old) Germanic languages. :P < 1361601497 775394 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :those two sigils were interchangeable < 1361601505 205335 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bah, humbug. < 1361601508 693483 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had a math prof who wrote the days of the week as MTWΘF < 1361601521 901840 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nerd < 1361601528 832781 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Not bad, that way you know the difference each one < 1361601535 476590 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like that < 1361601539 559817 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like it too :) < 1361601540 550427 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did he do for saturday/sunday < 1361601546 168340 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think it came up < 1361601550 794239 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sigma? < 1361601578 15053 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I have also seen "R" for Thursday sometimes; it can be used in case you are using only English alphabets, for whatever reason) < 1361601581 269700 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know how you would spell those english words using greek orthography < 1361601591 736221 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, R is okay < 1361601616 621368 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sadly I don't think contemporary english has any words containing þ < 1361601626 737569 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :even though we still have umlauts and diacritics in a few places < 1361601640 651535 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, þ died with the printing press. < 1361601643 529363 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the þs turned into ys or something < 1361601650 518524 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup < 1361601668 825968 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you write trhorn really sloppy it looks like y < 1361601673 109008 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*thorn < 1361601675 96984 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :日月火水木金土 Man, CJK has it easier. < 1361601722 923627 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder how to type ð with compose key < 1361601726 588065 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can do đ but it's not the same < 1361601743 139586 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just do altgr-d like a sensible person < 1361601746 716317 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boo < 1361601754 755639 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :do i really need compose *and* altgr? < 1361601759 852925 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i could add it to my compose file < 1361601763 44301 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dh < 1361601769 504190 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Compose-d-h < 1361601778 807863 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanikhq! < 1361601781 56174 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: that's japanese < 1361601790 895837 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :chinese has 1-7 :D < 1361601803 201709 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr: Chinese used to do that too. < 1361601816 308607 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :1-7 is a 20th century thing. < 1361601816 991426 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or was it 1-6 with a special one of 7 < 1361601819 924715 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't remember < 1361601837 538132 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but they gave up on names... that would never happen in europe :D < 1361602163 653226 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :One user complained that their program executed, but didn't do anything. The scon looked at it for twenty minutes before realizing that they'd commented out EVERY LINE. The user said, "Well, that was the only way I could get it to compile." < 1361602593 12807 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@77.122.91.146 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361606781 791170 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: He obviously lied. < 1361606811 331207 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo > program.c && gcc -o program program.c && chmod +x program < 1361606934 802774 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it wasn't c? < 1361606954 824425 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: That's actually not valid C. < 1361606984 987291 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not 100% sure, it might be a valid *translation unit*. < 1361607038 692132 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But definitely not a valid program: does not have int main(int,char*) *or* int main(). < 1361607060 985532 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that mroman's point < 1361607091 342261 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, hrm. < 1361607105 888737 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't IOCCC accept an empty program as a quine < 1361607114 766083 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the basis that some compiler would translate it to a no-op binary < 1361607139 351169 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably the C spec allows implementation-defined alternatives to main() < 1361607141 680656 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i,i WinMain() < 1361607429 271523 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does permit implementation-defined entry points, yeah. < 1361607441 694514 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, given that, it is conformant C, but not strictly conformant. < 1361607880 431251 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What was the 8-bit character set used in Amiga computer? < 1361608183 390885 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you thinking of PETSCII? < 1361608186 90789 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1361608218 14493 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure the Amiga used normal ASCII though. < 1361608242 340355 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, I mean whatever character set is used in .MOD on Amiga. I mean 8-bits, I know the 7-bits is ASCII < 1361608374 184511 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it weird that I like Harry Potter fanfics even though I've only read the first four books? < 1361608387 787169 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slightly. < 1361608389 491173 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what sort of harry potter fanfics are we talking here < 1361608398 567486 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :By the way, those are the weaker of the series. < 1361608495 841961 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :HPMOR and The Strange Disappearance of Sally-Anne Perks < 1361608513 864465 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still reading the latter < 1361608522 219034 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it possible to tell GCC to compile the newest files at first? < 1361608530 5639 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :HPMOR is kinda-insanely spoiler heavy. < 1361608537 713894 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can it be done in the shell scripting? < 1361608576 389744 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, I'm fine with HP spoilers, have read some < 1361608603 885631 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :joke about someone killing someone else, double joke whereby < 1361608663 740595 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :After the 7th book came out, I searched for spoilers since I wanted to know how it ended. I'm a bit hazy on the details though < 1361608778 220722 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc everybody except the mainest characters die < 1361608793 388480 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Not really. < 1361608809 853669 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though it is definitely a "anyone can die" thing going on. < 1361608889 573745 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hike < 1361608893 820077 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hho38 < 1361608916 765060 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hhhfsca < 1361609534 837572 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love how fanfic writers can take a little continuity error and just run with it < 1361609537 94704 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is awesome < 1361609600 711501 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my favorite fanfic writer is hans von hozel < 1361609636 289531 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ditto < 1361609767 114766 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently hans von hozel doesnt exist on fanfiction.net anymore??? rest in peace :'( i hope his stories were archived < 1361609800 730532 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :/whois hans von hozen < 1361609988 930281 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com QUIT :Quit: Radiateur < 1361610491 911240 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch JOIN :#esoteric < 1361610493 522372 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq ?? < 1361610493 917315 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : "Burlesque - 1.7.1" < 1361610615 919994 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that the one where sally ann perks is ariana dumbledore in disguise? < 1361610621 246950 :impomatic!~digital_w@146.90.165.144 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361610647 832615 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfgen Hello, World! < 1361610659 739177 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm. < 1361610732 405482 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf_txtgen Hello, World! < 1361610737 700498 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​128 +++++++++++[>++++++>+++++++++>++++>+<<<<-]>++++++.>++.+++++++..+++.>.------------.<<+++++++++++++++.>.+++.------.--------.>+.>-. [574] < 1361610912 504641 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1361611248 670615 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, I think there are things in HPMOR that I don't understand due to lack of canon knowledge < 1361611258 140274 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. Elder Wand references < 1361611264 26871 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Reading /r/hpmor) < 1361611802 398779 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :GameBoy audio seems like difficult to program compared to Famicom audio, and has no software envelopes, apparently only hardware envelopes can be used < 1361611814 899801 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1361612195 981721 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: sleep < 1361612627 958471 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1361613522 25994 :md_5!md_5@mcdevs/trusted/md-5 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1361613884 76310 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Classical logic is not applicable for self reference statements. Do you agree? < 1361613961 476069 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :You sure like to ask random questions out of the blue < 1361613986 142133 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I don't know what you mean. < 1361614043 563246 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In GEB, Hofstadter is defining the system as inconsistent by having two statements X and ~X both theorems, but I didn't (and still don't) like that; shouldn't it be, it is inconsistent if all well formed strings are theorems? At least it seems better to me. < 1361614096 409094 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not always true, though. < 1361614104 178659 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paraconsistent_logic < 1361614107 734682 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"all well-formed strings are theorems -> inconsist" implies "x ^ ~x -> inconsistent" < 1361614129 401241 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But "x ^ ~x -> inconsistent" does not imply "all well-formed strings are theorems -> inconsistent" < 1361614141 885812 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I really need to word that better < 1361614149 292119 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Yes, I know all that. I understand you. < 1361614185 440819 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, so, you want a theory in which x ^ ~x can be proved, but as long as there's a statement which cannot be proved, it is not inconsistent? < 1361614190 568212 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Example of classical logic not applicable to self reference, may be: [1] [2] Both statements are false. < 1361614235 885629 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I am not saying I do or do not want any of these things; I am simply saying that the definition of being inconsistent by having X and ~X seem not a good definition to me. < 1361614298 894815 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1361614413 470698 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Hello, which one do you want, today? < 1361614427 677685 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why are 1-20-13 stickers still being advertised? < 1361614429 290593 :md_5!md_5@mcdevs/trusted/md-5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361614429 434869 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the purple one < 1361614432 205239 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Surely the ads cost money... < 1361614533 679904 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: What is *your* opinion of all of this "logic" stuff? (see logs) < 1361614579 560461 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: i don't think i'm in shape today to form an opinion on that kind of stuff < 1361614581 424376 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot defies logic. Checkmate. < 1361614582 121287 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: but then your upload rate will always suck. :p i think that should work < 1361614596 17521 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my favorite self referential paradox is curry's paradox < 1361614599 269824 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1. Tasmanian devils have strong jaws. < 1361614599 429784 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2. The second sentence on The List is circular. < 1361614599 593661 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric : 3. If the third sentence on The List is true, then every sentence is true. < 1361614599 607776 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric : 4. The List comprises exactly four sentences. < 1361614605 978644 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, not checkmate. It is just check. < 1361614661 712724 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: I didn't see that. Now I did. < 1361614694 540689 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot < 1361614694 874617 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: the fastest i can get one from sörnäs too, if you write code in a library listening to music < 1361614698 674907 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^stylle < 1361614699 651396 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see how that's a paradox < 1361614699 732540 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1361614699 874220 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc* iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1361614708 419519 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are several consistent resolutions to it < 1361614712 134447 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: It's just the third sentence. < 1361614719 875457 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric : 5. The butler isn't the thief. < 1361614728 221345 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I think I forgot the meaning of if < 1361614757 4894 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 and 4 are obviously true, 1 is plausible < 1361614768 422824 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 being true seems to be consistent as long as the others are true. < 1361614790 520821 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup that is the paradox < 1361614812 86753 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is trying to figure out whether 3 can be false
< 1361614849 887798 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :f->f is t < 1361614908 178119 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I see, I think. < 1361614941 201457 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has some very odd properties < 1361614959 361955 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you duplicate it on the list then it is able to be false < 1361615046 452279 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the direction of causality seems to be backwards < 1361615277 263330 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://dailysciencefiction.com/fantasy/fairy-tales/dani-atkinson/said-the-princess < 1361615280 624552 :ogrom!~del@143.122.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1361615956 910569 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@77.122.91.146 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1361616371 232832 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm. < 1361616388 805281 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 2222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222^^2\/?dr@.%{0==}ayn! < 1361616389 189849 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : Ain't nobody got time fo' dat! < 1361616396 943967 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes lazyness breaks :( < 1361616471 19311 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 2222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222^^2\/?dr@.%-] < 1361616471 519814 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0 < 1361616477 501276 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1361616482 12486 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :modulo is lazy < 1361616489 256312 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :> any (==0) [0..] < 1361616490 645684 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : True < 1361616503 178137 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 0R@{0==}ay < 1361616503 534077 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : Ain't nobody got time fo' dat! < 1361616521 858572 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Burlesques any behaves different :( < 1361616563 595782 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1361616566 102697 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah :) < 1361616577 238561 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :it uses a foldl with or < 1361616593 814300 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :> foldl1 (||) $ map (==0)[0..] < 1361616598 66863 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: Time limit exceeded < 1361616599 347189 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that can't work. < 1361616788 622180 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1361618220 565416 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1361618592 545351 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src any < 1361618592 625093 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :any p = or . map p < 1361618598 36567 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src or < 1361618598 68346 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or = foldr (||) False < 1361618608 83564 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it needs to be a foldr to be lazy < 1361618641 993648 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it needs to be a foldMap to be easy < 1361618664 893843 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION mappends shachaf with the swatter -----###
< 1361618723 93645 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just wrote a response to a subcomment on the post that ended up being longer than the original post. < 1361618726 192341 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it's about monads. :-( < 1361618740 624919 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oooooooooooooooooooooops < 1361618752 417196 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: "sry" < 1361618755 573435 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :should have made it about monoids maybe it'd be easier??????? < 1361618771 456219 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: dont you think the monoids/easy thing is a bit overdone < 1361618772 429317 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :monads _are_ monoids. sheesh. < 1361618796 405882 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION reddit-stalks shachaf and doesn't see a comment newer than 2 months old
< 1361618807 934731 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, oerjan, sgeo: :-) < 1361618813 930295 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: did you know part of the internet exists that isn't reddit < 1361618854 370357 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: : ———————————— ¦ < 1361618872 557332 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::¬/ < 1361618885 60455 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION vaguely wants to find a pdf -> epub converter that isn't Calibre
< 1361618921 581571 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :⋰¬/ < 1361618939 267971 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :simplicity: < 1361618940 404971 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ꜘ < 1361618958 472056 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: anyway it's on "that other website" < 1361618969 609544 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: ᓳ < 1361618991 124710 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::¬ < 1361618998 513413 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1361619016 253470 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361619043 412080 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1361619044 61005 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :other website??? sounds sketchy < 1361619044 378350 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :29FE TINY [⧾] < 1361619044 534079 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :29FF MINY [⧿] < 1361619073 232133 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing recent and relevant on either SO or Hacker News < 1361619094 627681 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: idea: what if monoids being easy being overdone is overdone: what now/checkmate??? < 1361619202 795245 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: are you some kind of overdoneintuitionistperson < 1361619241 54550 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :an ideas man < 1361619247 272885 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :today my ideas is that < 1361619361 896363 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1361619367 363074 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was waiting for you to finish that sentence < 1361619372 459785 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the idea came already < 1361619396 695043 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw today is already tomorrow so what's yesterdays/tomorrows ideas¿ < 1361619420 985829 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont think time works like that shachaf -an idea < 1361619452 535959 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1361619460 540903 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hang on one minute was that another idea < 1361619468 158014 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many ideas do we get a day < 1361619490 68203 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if everything i say is an idea -an idea < 1361619499 800368 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no < 1361619505 26960 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe thats why im an ideas man -an idea < 1361619516 30159 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i give you my email address will you spam me with ideas < 1361619522 948109 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no im not a spam man < 1361619528 986960 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1361619532 237279 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :will you email me with ideas < 1361619539 304524 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im not an email man either < 1361619568 180625 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no < 1361619577 685726 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i give you my irc address will you irc me some ideas < 1361619628 463599 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :☺ < 1361619655 303776 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :☻ < 1361619696 160151 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a plant bulb < 1361619766 95144 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy dont be racist < 1361619794 628084 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :☹ < 1361619837 433949 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The faces in U+2639–U+263B were designed to irritate my OCD. < 1361619882 920314 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: What about 261A-261F? < 1361619903 814480 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: heh < 1361619927 201519 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1361620131 90163 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 0R@0Fi < 1361620131 520846 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0 < 1361620143 919457 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361620148 578378 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 2222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222^^2\/?dr@.%0Fi < 1361620149 30175 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0 < 1361620157 378694 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 13^^2\/?dr@.%0Fi < 1361620157 787947 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : -1 < 1361620198 266245 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 13^^2\/?dr@.%0Fi0<.{"Prime""Not so prime"}ch < 1361620198 713231 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : "Prime" < 1361620219 853943 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 222^^2\/?dr@.%0Fi0<.{"Prime""Not so prime"}ch < 1361620220 296031 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : "Not so prime" < 1361620232 642553 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq ?? < 1361620232 778739 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : "Burlesque - 1.7.1" < 1361620235 316716 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq hi < 1361620235 478670 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : ERROR: Unknown command: (hi)! < 1361620246 473351 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION looks up
< 1361620259 355713 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361620277 314721 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: http://mroman.ch/burlesque < 1361620508 206735 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361620578 334454 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm getting some ursala-but-taking-itself-less-seriously vibes from some of this "about" stuff < 1361620625 21657 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :remember when i learned some ursala and never bothered to learn the rest? i forgot it all. probably easy to relearn. not going to bother < 1361620677 844494 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1361620684 393939 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait what's ursala < 1361620688 903120 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you've talked about it before.... < 1361620773 648459 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some sort of language that people in here disliked < 1361620776 577678 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1361620776 796536 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :iric < 1361620777 931593 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc < 1361620780 115794 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :disliked???? < 1361620801 927149 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont think its possible to dislike ursala < 1361620807 538069 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1361620859 496075 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/gueststar/Ursala/ / https://gitorious.org/ursala-manual < 1361620886 613746 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like the manual's in the first repo too.. < 1361620890 158857 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably more up to date thee < 1361620892 926057 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there < 1361620926 821868 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/gueststar/Ursala/tree/master/contrib code examples!! < 1361620990 403304 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I almost want to call it an esolang, but J isn't an esolang < 1361621124 877244 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suggest learning ursala as your next language < 1361621401 442936 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1361621641 572517 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :j doesnt count as esoteric? < 1361621789 238338 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1361622060 501980 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1361622063 264617 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's ursala. < 1361622071 956919 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. I've stumbled upon it years ago :) < 1361622181 860946 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :The manual is 500 pages long o_O < 1361622233 424394 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1361622252 371864 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a image library to render images without using I/O? < 1361622255 300211 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :for haskell. < 1361622352 500982 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1361622467 776378 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: can i have one more idea < 1361622470 249022 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :before i go to sleep < 1361622876 930714 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1361622907 514429 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1361623476 208179 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1361623498 230599 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq {0 1}{^^++[+[-^^-]\/}1500.*\[e!vv < 1361623498 620435 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : Ain't nobody got time fo' dat! < 1361623502 841587 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq {0 1}{^^++[+[-^^-]\/}500.*\[e!vv < 1361623503 463521 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : Ain't nobody got time fo' dat! < 1361623507 380814 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq {0 1}{^^++[+[-^^-]\/}100.*\[e!vv < 1361623507 896465 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : Ain't nobody got time fo' dat! < 1361623513 255938 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq {0 1}{^^++[+[-^^-]\/}50.*\[e!vv < 1361623513 691477 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : 12586269025 < 1361623562 582686 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq {0 1}{^^++[+[-^^-]\/750.*\[e!vv < 1361623563 275473 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : ERROR: (line 1, column 32): < 1361623574 283895 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq {0 1}{^^++[+[-^^-]\/}70.*\[e!vv < 1361623574 689189 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : Ain't nobody got time fo' dat! < 1361623595 908120 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361623814 522745 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Help I'm scared to go to sleep < 1361624024 408771 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1361624054 633321 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1361624193 230744 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm still feeling the same weird way I did when I woke up < 1361624202 240205 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scared what if I can't breathe when I wake up < 1361624208 652200 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I felt horrible yesterday < 1361624584 588981 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :3h 54m 59s < 1361624590 540269 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1361624641 303965 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :He told you the time you have left to live < 1361624653 397366 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :afte that he's gonna kill you while you're sleeping. < 1361624704 251414 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :But no. Seriously. < 1361624704 701212 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :You woke up unable to breathe? < 1361624784 7206 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : I can talk o_O < 1361624917 721315 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :4h 32s < 1361624929 953900 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :^- also, the time is increasing. So no worry ;) < 1361625085 873027 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman, I woke up feeling almost but not quite like I was trying to vomit, and having a bit of trouble breathing through that < 1361625184 265227 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: while in general you seem to have a need to break off from your dad, i _do_ vaguely recall that he is a doctor. maybe you should call him, or otherwise get to another doctor. < 1361625236 91051 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did mention it to him, although I don't know if I really described what I went through last morning < 1361625264 621815 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean i'm not a doctor, but my hunch says it could be either anxiety or an actual heart problem < 1361625298 228096 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It... felt more like a stomach problem < 1361625306 213693 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(of course it could be completely different) < 1361625308 320293 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1361625368 922951 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Ping timeout: 257 seconds < 1361625601 548968 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lots of flu around this time of year too < 1361625601 581921 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1361625606 924266 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1361625606 955225 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 6d 3h 56m 53s ago: also my PS3 controller on my desk random came to life and blinked the 4 LEDS a couple of times <-- probably just the google cloud trying to print < 1361625615 365411 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, :D < 1361625824 337804 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT'S THE OBVIOUS EXPLANATION < 1361625924 904120 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1361626094 169873 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Per my dad's suggestion, going to walk outside a bit before going to sleep < 1361626132 37822 :atehwa_!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1361626534 765890 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :borp < 1361626763 328306 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1361626769 383420 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hoogle a -> [b] -> (a -> b -> (c, a)) -> [c] < 1361626769 890652 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :No results found < 1361626791 806419 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hoogle a -> [b] -> (a -> b -> (c, a)) -> ([c], a) < 1361626792 24990 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :No results found < 1361626793 472403 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1361626806 566808 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t mapAccumL < 1361626808 141268 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(acc -> x -> (acc, y)) -> acc -> [x] -> (acc, [y]) < 1361626851 633436 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought hoogle did better argument rearrangement than that < 1361626973 601089 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also would need tuple rearrangement? < 1361626977 923319 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: have I mentioned that State is the wrong way around < 1361626979 814514 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yeah < 1361626986 85600 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, yes you have < 1361627000 652983 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t state < 1361627002 119381 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :MonadState s m => (s -> (a, s)) -> m a < 1361627017 826981 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wrong way around? As in, the tuple? < 1361627042 366968 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, why does it matter? Because of possibility or lack thereof of using (,)? < 1361627042 691688 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1361627061 779490 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :inconsistent with mapAccumL, the Functor instance, etc. < 1361627072 376152 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :leading to many uses of "swap' < 1361627073 357902 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*" < 1361627215 504010 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :OTOH, “state . randomR” works. < 1361627255 301883 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's because Random is backwards too < 1361627497 171121 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t randomR < 1361627498 565578 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(RandomGen g, Random a) => (a, a) -> g -> (a, g) < 1361627500 789312 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361627505 796358 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe everything else is backwards < 1361627516 747338 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1361627530 330532 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or is there an asymmetry? < 1361627533 964349 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1361627546 359574 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361627554 474544 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1361627586 895711 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361627631 81301 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: yes, the Functor instance. < 1361627638 809864 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you cannot give a Functor instance for (_,e) but you can for (e,_) < 1361627646 578518 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, good point. < 1361627680 667824 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and e.g. the fmap for the State monad matches the fmap for (e,_), which is opposite to (fmap.fmap) on its representation < 1361627691 996600 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :similarly mapping over the random value you generated is more useful than mapping over the resulting generator < 1361627760 338681 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :more uselessly you can express State as the adjunction between ((->) e) and ((,) e) in Haskell (directly, since they're both functors Hask -> Hask) whereas (_, e) of course doesn't work because of the Functor thing < 1361628085 21757 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I'll set an alarm to wake me up in 4 hours, then go back to sleep < 1361628313 201229 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> "aaaabbc" \\ "abbcc" < 1361628317 809569 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: Time limit exceeded < 1361628319 954462 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> "aaaabbc" \\ "abbcc" < 1361628321 869223 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "aaa" < 1361628454 789287 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :" Not recommended to microwave (I forget the exact phrasing of the microwave bit)" <-- as a general rule nothing can be cooked in the microwave unless explicitly made for it < 1361628500 143249 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fresh but refrigerated pizza isn't explicitly made for microwave cooking, is it? < 1361628566 982947 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, that was cooked before being refrigerated, right? < 1361628751 840507 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :if not I would say it's a clear example of something that requires non-microwave cooking < 1361629720 320634 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq "aaaabbc" "abbcc" \\ < 1361629720 698328 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : "aaa" < 1361629748 772397 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1361629881 300977 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361629902 968292 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.31.206 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361630222 244568 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: Is it supposed to return "abbc" ? < 1361630487 829293 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope. < 1361630504 585968 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :> "aaaabbc" \\ "abbcc" < 1361630506 98567 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "aaa" < 1361630513 544658 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :"aaa" is correct. < 1361630552 471486 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's what i needed, anyway < 1361630572 937007 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361630618 345965 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq "aaaabbc"NB"abbcc" \\ < 1361630618 709171 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : "" < 1361630931 850159 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION looks up the definition of \\ again
< 1361631020 55080 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :list difference < 1361631116 286217 :GOMADWarrior!~Regis@186.222.62.175 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361631547 891968 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, difference, not intersection like I thought < 1361632448 3815 :trout!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :variable < 1361633961 554413 :GOMADWarrior!~Regis@186.222.62.175 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in brainfuck , accepts a number from 0 to 255? < 1361633997 516616 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's common yes. although some implementations use -1 for EOF. < 1361634367 517287 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, -1 would be 255, how could you tell the difference? < 1361634382 719444 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :assuming 2-complement at least < 1361634397 852471 :nortti!~juhani@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: there is no way < 1361634415 124193 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti, exactly < 1361634434 451693 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: you are assuming 8-bit < 1361634455 718513 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :-1 makes more sense if you'e >8 bit < 1361634465 726281 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, well yes, given the range 0 - 255 or -128 - 127 < 1361634497 335220 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although i guess it may more often be just an artifact of using C getchar < 1361634497 762745 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :255 is -1 < 1361634515 25753 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ASSUMING 8 BIT i said < 1361634530 634822 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, you already went past the whole 255 is -1 thing earlier, never mind < 1361635863 413099 :GOMADWarrior!~Regis@186.222.62.175 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just made a brainfuck interpreter in lua http://bpaste.net/show/YJWGQ0DQRwuAs4EPjxP4/ < 1361636009 926882 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1361636312 541916 :ogrom!~del@143.122.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee QUIT :Quit: Left < 1361636442 351661 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1361636709 312844 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361637985 426936 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what language is that? < 1361637988 642514 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh you said lua < 1361638125 564112 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lua is creepy. < 1361638202 156157 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how so < 1361638280 14038 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Array indices. < 1361638339 990058 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :sym = C(S"+-*/") * V"ws", < 1361638346 88214 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :^- and that looks Creepy < 1361638385 914261 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not saying it's bad. < 1361638427 658173 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know Lua well enough. < 1361638561 762469 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.31.206 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i made a brainfuck interpreter in TI-BASIC at school yesterday < 1361638572 829690 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.31.206 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should type the code into a thingy < 1361639201 597029 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1361639639 85505 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.31.206 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://bpaste.net/raw/3PIANdqlzqCqcVs69upO/ < 1361639663 1297 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.31.206 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the sample code asks for two numbers and multiplies them < 1361639682 101138 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.31.206 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure how efficient it is (the bf code) but it takes like 20 seconds < 1361639706 222394 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-137-85.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1361639769 279011 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.31.206 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it's pretty "optimal" < 1361639807 703548 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's with all the unclosed parenthesis < 1361639814 294621 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't speak expensive calculators < 1361640340 452429 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess all parens get closed automatically at the end of a line < 1361640382 332277 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codepad.org/3sHWeRWi < 1361640387 332394 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :^- that's freaky o_O < 1361640417 99280 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Q pushes the remaning code to the stack < 1361640431 452962 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :q pops code from the stack and replaces the left to execute code with it) < 1361640449 121213 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I just need to find a use for it. < 1361640530 194336 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: Seems useful for code modification < 1361640546 435544 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe something like lisp macros but stacky < 1361640550 79538 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can already manipulate code on the fly by using eval < 1361640560 12231 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah but this is another way < 1361640566 783837 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :like < 1361640568 839142 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but this is another way of doing it, yes < 1361642227 263136 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1361642834 436537 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1361644094 470140 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.31.206 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: indeed < 1361644133 446712 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.31.206 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and TI-BASIC code is faster when it's shorter! so that kind of thing is pretty common < 1361644207 414248 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-137-85.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1361644221 753502 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wrote a bf interpreter in ti-basic when i was in high school < 1361644229 485412 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :with visualization < 1361644241 290940 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :amazing what boredom with your classes can do < 1361644279 826097 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.31.206 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mine supports "visualization" too if you just add like "Output(1,1,L1" to the main loop < 1361644298 690686 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.31.206 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's so slow you can just see your code execute step by step < 1361644310 81245 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-137-85.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1361644318 651012 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.31.206 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like 5 instructions per second < 1361644401 189497 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah no i meant real visualization, where it displays the part of the code being executed and points to the current command, and it displays the part of the tape being modified and points to the current cell < 1361644425 672221 :kallisti!~eris@168.28.136.16 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361644425 686689 :kallisti!~eris@168.28.136.16 QUIT :Changing host < 1361644425 686819 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1361644450 213508 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i dealt with the slow speed by adding an extra command: "a" which was equivalent to "++++++++++" < 1361644670 813273 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Client Quit < 1361644685 86486 :kallisti!~eris@168.28.136.16 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361644685 117584 :kallisti!~eris@168.28.136.16 QUIT :Changing host < 1361644685 132410 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1361645528 578928 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361645652 629358 :yiyus!1242712427@je.je.je QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1361645746 936038 :yiyus!1242712427@je.je.je JOIN :#esoteric < 1361645839 490837 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this cheese has a Data Matrix code printed on the rind < 1361646004 17945 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-12-44.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1361646099 512911 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in retrospect, TI-83 was a great platform for beginning to learn programming < 1361646123 538804 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i spent a lot of time riding school buses and waiting for school buses < 1361646126 449666 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it allowed me to use that time < 1361646138 317321 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it was unambiguously mine, unlike my parents' computer which i or they would worry about me breaking < 1361646173 395918 :impomatic!~digital_w@146.90.165.144 PRIVMSG #esoteric :My parents thought I might break the computer by programming and typing in the wrong stuff... < 1361646190 817463 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it could do enough things (drawing, graphing, easy text-based menus) to be interesting < 1361646197 502311 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :while still being very easy to dive in < 1361646201 348420 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-12-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm second generation. It's handy < 1361646223 894955 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you could share your stuff with your friends via link cable, which added a social component < 1361646237 709713 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the last part is the biggest difference between now and when i was in middle / high school < 1361646246 348525 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :now kids will want to upload their TI programs to facebook < 1361646249 872749 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-12-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :On the other hand, I have a Casio graphical calculator < 1361646305 686103 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did a 4-shade mandelbrot set renderer in TI-83 BASIC < 1361646309 869609 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it took like an hour < 1361646372 655956 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1361646375 43879 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1361646387 150464 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1361646387 208020 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1361646423 409877 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-12-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest, are you becoming the new me? < 1361646430 80748 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-12-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs Hello < 1361646451 380982 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I hope not :p < 1361646478 801657 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.30174 < 1361646523 132447 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-12-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest, look at that < 1361646772 403147 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1361646801 959703 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-137-85.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1361646952 49035 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361647199 578102 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p4FDCCFB3.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1361647295 868755 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1361647602 522970 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1361647609 242438 :AnotherTest1!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1361647822 968510 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :BASIC was just barely fast enough to do 4-color greyscale by quickly loading saved monochrome images in order < 1361647919 517662 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1361647946 226942 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hi < 1361647963 516512 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi elliott < 1361648073 860045 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.31.206 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've considered making < 1361648079 531560 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.31.206 PRIVMSG #esoteric :TI-BASIC lisp < 1361648099 332620 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.31.206 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it'd be really hard to make (though technically possible with lots of string bullshit) < 1361648123 268179 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.31.206 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it'd be... so slow... < 1361648164 665830 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :The new TI are probably much faster. < 1361648177 794122 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :mine even has color display and touchscreen. < 1361648191 688410 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that a color display is something you'd want for a calculator. < 1361648208 376225 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :except for plotting multiple functions it is utterly useless. < 1361648320 239297 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.31.206 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow i'm looking at a review for "axe parser" on ticalc.org < 1361648324 958623 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.31.206 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and this guy's scoresheet is < 1361648343 595967 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.31.206 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Syntax: 9/10 Speed: 10/10 Usability: 9/10 Practicality: 10/10 Learning curve: Y=2X < 1361648347 240598 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.31.206 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Overall: Y=2X+38/40 < 1361648437 66483 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :axe parser < 1361648517 400700 :AnotherTest1!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: can it plot functions with 2 input parameters? < 1361648553 167778 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-12-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...can you add a constant to an equation like that? I don't think you can < 1361648615 203963 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks lame < 1361648638 717932 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.ticalc.org/archives/files/ss/804/80422.gif <- what's that? < 1361648664 319598 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.31.206 PRIVMSG #esoteric :game of life? < 1361648729 336846 :AnotherTest1!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I actually wrote a multiplayer TI game once. It was pretty bad but some kids actually played it < 1361648781 339552 :AnotherTest1!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I sort of had a singleplayer option, but it was pretty boring as you had to defeat the same monster over and over again < 1361648828 314591 :AnotherTest1!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :which became impossible after a few level ups, because the monster strength calculation was done using a really bad formula < 1361648996 928190 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.31.206 PRIVMSG #esoteric :man, two years ago i wrote something kinda like an idle rpg < 1361649016 107867 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.31.206 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you had to mine for resources to sell them to buy upgrades to mine for better resources. < 1361649039 361455 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so its minecraft < 1361649047 394708 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.31.206 PRIVMSG #esoteric :idle minecraft yes < 1361649051 973027 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.31.206 PRIVMSG #esoteric :with much more "tiers" < 1361649053 893753 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://datamuseum.dk/site_dk/rc/gierdoc/naur8.pdf < 1361649057 861681 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-12-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mindlecraft < 1361649075 304878 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.31.206 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it literally had iron/gold/diamond in it but it went on to all kind of ridiculous things < 1361649075 533792 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :mildly interesting < 1361649082 177504 :AnotherTest1!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone should make a game were you attack guys using functions < 1361649096 111626 :AnotherTest1!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :like I attack you with f(x) = 2x + 1 < 1361649096 220113 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.31.206 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest1: http://www.graphwar.com/ < 1361649133 460423 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.31.206 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Graphwar is an artillery game in which you must hit your enemies using mathematical functions. The trajectory of your shot is determined by the function you wrote, and your goal is to avoid the obstacles and your teammates and hit your enemies. The game takes place in a Cartesian Plane. < 1361649140 160427 :AnotherTest1!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :* someone should make a game not written in java < 1361649218 641538 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone should implement langton's ant in Burlesque < 1361649219 134982 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.31.206 PRIVMSG #esoteric :was this pretty much your idea, though < 1361649232 389128 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1361649245 232392 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.31.206 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: that sounds fun < 1361649310 106668 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i attack you with omega combinator < 1361649311 183297 :AnotherTest1!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodle: well, it would have been nicer if it were not in a plane, but in three dimensions < 1361649324 29523 :AnotherTest1!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I attack you with an elipitic curve? < 1361649327 264439 :AnotherTest1!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :*elliptic < 1361649338 265494 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliottic curve < 1361649349 552387 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-12-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga, sounds dangerous < 1361649353 733957 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1361649375 236214 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.31.206 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliptic is elliott's alias < 1361649405 919282 :AnotherTest1!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you have moduli in the functions? < 1361649419 335004 :AnotherTest1!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, can you do combined functions? < 1361649438 760449 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.31.206 PRIVMSG #esoteric :combined? < 1361649440 571739 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361649466 94679 :ogrom!~del@143.122.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1361649469 410111 :AnotherTest1!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, bad translation from dutch < 1361649470 388736 :AnotherTest1!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1361649491 117477 :AnotherTest1!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :like a function which is different depending on a number of conditions < 1361649493 826140 :AnotherTest1!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :eg. collatz < 1361649530 979973 :AnotherTest1!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would be nice if you could have a list of functions < 1361649542 535334 :AnotherTest1!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :then cast composition and iteration attacks < 1361649587 214052 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.31.206 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fyi i'm from dutch-speaking belgium < 1361649596 938592 :AnotherTest1!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :same < 1361649597 52244 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.31.206 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh god we both are < 1361649603 99841 :AnotherTest1!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be NICK :AnotherTest < 1361649607 536802 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh < 1361649617 131849 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :once I went to Maastricht < 1361649630 341269 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's near belguim i think < 1361649648 972233 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they didn't speak english there, only french and dutch < 1361649651 595916 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :beh < 1361649659 308468 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-12-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of my friends is descended from dutch-speaking belgians, I think < 1361649670 6454 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.31.206 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's right next to belgium < 1361649711 406085 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :What I want to say is probably a function with a, in dutch, "meervoudig voorschrift" < 1361649727 828455 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, we had girls riding bikes from belgium to a party in maas < 1361649728 491512 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.31.206 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, right < 1361649755 475266 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.31.206 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't have that because it'd be really easy to cheat < 1361649766 815743 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.31.206 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you could finetune your function to avoid all obstacles easily < 1361649777 947569 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, probably < 1361649783 136409 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :the obstacles should be moving < 1361649789 843247 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I guess if you predicted their movement < 1361649790 227047 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :google translates that as "piecewise" < 1361649799 469711 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :The obstacles should be moving at random! < 1361649812 311019 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the random number should be really random < 1361649820 48788 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no you should have to buy entropy < 1361649826 594557 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.31.206 PRIVMSG #esoteric :man. i live like 20 minutes away from antwerp; where are you from AnotherTest < 1361649868 622943 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :antderp < 1361649870 129765 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1361649879 572531 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: Flemish Brabant < 1361649896 204334 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :ant derp < 1361649912 943679 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :red pant < 1361649924 296846 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@77.122.91.146 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361649951 285242 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :trap ned < 1361650008 526509 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1361650080 994173 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1361650098 906362 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq "....\n..#.\n...." < 1361650099 529581 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : "....\n..#.\n...." < 1361650118 80198 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq "....\n..#.\n...."ln{1 2}d! < 1361650118 434512 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : '# < 1361650154 418248 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq Q < 1361650154 565093 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : ERROR: (line 1, column 2): < 1361650156 79793 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq q < 1361650156 247497 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : ERROR: (line 1, column 2): < 1361650157 703646 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq Qq < 1361650157 734092 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : ERROR: Unknown command: (Qq)! < 1361650159 79830 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq Q q < 1361650159 236543 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : ERROR: (line 1, column 2): < 1361650169 84969 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1361650171 540678 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 5 5 + < 1361650172 132398 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : ERROR: (line 1, column 6): < 1361650177 133586 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1361650178 674942 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't updated the blsqbot yet. < 1361650183 51887 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 5 5 .+ < 1361650183 417046 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : 10 < 1361650190 46017 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah teh dot < 1361650198 346466 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 5 5 .* < 1361650198 907720 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : 25 < 1361650206 684771 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: Wait a sec. < 1361650243 113588 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361650264 214733 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq "Test 123 1234" < 1361650264 629129 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : "Test 123 1234" < 1361650269 527983 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : "hi" < 1361650274 397906 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :What? < 1361650282 89924 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1361650283 55672 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.31.206 PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg < 1361650287 868939 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone send a privmsg < 1361650290 35871 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : "i'm a robot beep boop" < 1361650308 663963 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : "This isn't funny man." < 1361650309 655022 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.31.206 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: suggestion: have blsqbot respond to queries differently < 1361650317 573112 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : "Yes it is." < 1361650321 692200 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : "#esoteric: anonymous mode" < 1361650332 837684 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : "I'm a little teapot, short and stout." < 1361650337 685309 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361650346 976385 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : Are you mad? < 1361650351 576449 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : "o/` i'm an irc bot short and stout o/`" < 1361650356 25459 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq { "hi" } 1 w! < 1361650356 463425 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : ERROR: Burlesque: (w!) Invalid arguments! < 1361650360 244393 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1361650361 715719 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : "blsqbot should do HTCPCP" < 1361650362 445482 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ican do this < 1361650373 823092 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq { "hi" } {1} w! < 1361650374 227174 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : Ain't nobody got time fo' dat! < 1361650377 733705 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1361650392 871444 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq "hi" "hi" < 1361650393 5435 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : "hi" < 1361650396 953625 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :HTCPCP? < 1361650398 682708 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq { "hi" } {"hi" .=} w! < 1361650399 128335 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : ERROR: Burlesque: (w!) Invalid! < 1361650400 736269 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"how to cook PCP"? < 1361650402 322268 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh < 1361650411 542263 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hypertext coffee pot control protocol < 1361650430 352630 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq { 1 } {50 .<} w! < 1361650430 786057 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : ERROR: Burlesque: (w!) Invalid! < 1361650436 218029 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: drugs, am I right < 1361650439 680373 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :drugs. < 1361650440 823653 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2324.txt < 1361650479 300230 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : I'm going to disney land < 1361650488 120765 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch QUIT :Quit: Exiting < 1361650503 185297 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq { "Why does this feel bad." 1 } {50 .<} w! < 1361650522 267557 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm? < 1361650603 235357 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch JOIN :#esoteric < 1361650616 944457 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.31.206 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: is there a "negate" command? short for -1.* < 1361650625 960965 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq { "Why does this feel bad. Yay!" 1 } {50 .<} w! < 1361650626 526479 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : ERROR: Burlesque: (w!) Invalid! < 1361650635 358166 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok why < 1361650643 783433 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq { 1 } {50 .<} w! < 1361650644 276118 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : ERROR: Burlesque: (w!) Invalid! < 1361650658 781775 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1361650665 873421 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is this burlesque toy? < 1361650671 2725 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: You mean not? < 1361650673 946828 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, burlesque is an esolang < 1361650675 637248 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 0n! < 1361650676 50761 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1 < 1361650677 533756 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I guess blsqbot evaluates it < 1361650678 620185 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 1n! < 1361650679 157645 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0 < 1361650680 519460 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.31.206 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah < 1361650686 543818 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq "I'm back"sh < 1361650687 172334 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : I'm back < 1361650698 185962 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.31.206 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 5 -1.* < 1361650698 217377 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : -5 < 1361650722 839899 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.31.206 PRIVMSG #esoteric :could be "ng" or something, "Negate" < 1361650726 150657 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : nooga: I evaluate all your burlesque expressions < 1361650739 706542 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: Oh. that negate < 1361650741 612777 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq ps+ < 1361650741 955042 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : ERROR: (line 1, column 4): < 1361650750 15500 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.31.206 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also what's "deepmap" < 1361650775 323269 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.31.206 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, nevermind < 1361650781 118275 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :It maps over blocks < 1361650789 550950 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 0.5Tc < 1361650790 21618 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0.8775825618903728 < 1361650796 375130 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq {0.5 0.5 0.4}Tc < 1361650796 712405 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {0.8775825618903728 0.8775825618903728 0.9210609940028851} < 1361650860 522144 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: There is nothing on the stack @ {1}{50.<}w! < 1361650878 183097 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 1{}{50.<}w! < 1361650878 549458 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : Ain't nobody got time fo' dat! < 1361650885 607082 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's an endless loop. < 1361650898 682003 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 1{2.*}{50.<}w! < 1361650899 276214 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : 64 < 1361650905 698474 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 1{2.*}{100.<}w! < 1361650906 113547 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : 128 < 1361650935 860792 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 1R@2?*{100.>}fe < 1361650936 307814 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : 102 < 1361650952 539901 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 1R@2?^{100.>}fe < 1361650953 79849 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : 121 < 1361651015 931226 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361651063 130765 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :^source < 1361651063 295436 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://git.zem.fi/fungot/blob/HEAD:/fungot.b98 < 1361651087 378354 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: #Q pushes remaining code to the stack, #q pops code and replaces remaining code with it < 1361651097 569239 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :#j pops code from stack and prepends it to remaining code < 1361651102 174294 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :#J dose the same but appends < 1361651111 967899 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq #Q1 2 3#j < 1361651112 302505 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : 3 < 1361651116 981852 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq #Q1 2 3#j#s < 1361651117 635574 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {3 2 1 {1 2 3 #j #s}} < 1361651124 138388 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(#s pushes the stack to the stack) < 1361651147 910566 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq #Q1 2 3#j.+#s < 1361651148 450727 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {5 1 {1 2 3 #j .+ #s}} < 1361651174 860858 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq #Q#q < 1361651175 208436 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : No output! < 1361651182 863150 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq #Q#q#Q < 1361651183 359433 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {} < 1361651188 833628 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.31.206 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1361651189 578374 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq #Q#q#Q#q#q < 1361651190 147841 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : No output! < 1361651202 814165 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, ping < 1361651202 999644 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq #Q"Hello, World"sh < 1361651203 466523 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : Hello, World < 1361651207 865443 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq #Q"Hello, World"sh#s < 1361651208 389238 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {Hello, World {"Hello, World" sh #s}} < 1361651224 656733 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq #Q #q < 1361651224 800205 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : No output! < 1361651235 95231 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell fizzie fizzie whatever happened to jitfunge? < 1361651235 124155 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1361651244 924520 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :err why did I write the nick twice? < 1361651247 684327 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh never mind < 1361651284 610630 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: I'm not sure what one can achieve with this. < 1361651338 90134 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq #Q#q#s < 1361651338 680258 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {} < 1361651347 781065 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: There should be a way to stop #Q, so it doesn't change any code afterwards < 1361651362 833459 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :"stop"? < 1361651380 888480 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :So everything from #Q to #E gets pushed onto the stack < 1361651389 389886 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then the rest of the code gets executed normally < 1361651403 996776 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1361651406 316635 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can do that < 1361651413 251384 :AnotherTest1!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1361651414 19408 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq #Q5 5 .+ < 1361651414 461316 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : 10 < 1361651416 957854 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq #Q5 5 .+#s < 1361651417 430066 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {10 {5 5 .+ #s}} < 1361651429 646939 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :burlesque is written in haskell, right? < 1361651435 7053 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq #Q5 5 .+\/5.+#s < 1361651435 522481 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {{5 5 .+ \/ 5} 10} < 1361651441 596422 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq #Q5 5 .+\/3.+#s < 1361651442 200610 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {{5 5 .+} 10} < 1361651452 29666 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1361651457 340040 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :^- you can remove elements from the pushed code < 1361651471 79703 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl_: Right. < 1361651499 513293 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm. i was interested to see how you handled the lazy lists < 1361651502 786357 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but in haskell it's trivial < 1361651515 905063 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I get lazyness for free ;) < 1361651526 685859 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq #Q5 5 .+\/3.+e!#s < 1361651527 91716 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {10 10} < 1361651545 766071 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq #Q5 5 .+\/3.+e!.+#s < 1361651546 257907 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {20} < 1361651554 491830 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq #Q5 5 .+\/3.+e!.+ < 1361651554 886653 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : 20 < 1361651640 413239 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :#Q does not stop code from being executed. < 1361651684 89427 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl_: It wouldn't be just infinite lists. < 1361651711 160859 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd have to implement general lazyness. < 1361651716 526655 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are no available nodes on X-Bit BBS for many hours already. < 1361651736 926801 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't even know how haskell does it < 1361651740 549946 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's magic < 1361651796 573690 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :heap values are thunks, it's not that hard < 1361651852 173862 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might be useful to play with laziness in a strict language < 1361651867 396981 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can defer computation by wrapping it in a zero-argument lambda < 1361651872 453861 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'd be a learning exercise < 1361651875 283433 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then force it later just by applying that function < 1361651876 333548 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :although < 1361651880 187095 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not actually lazy evaluation < 1361651883 751221 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1361651886 314934 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has the same semantics (non-strict semantics) < 1361651889 503910 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but much worse performance < 1361651916 798382 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I actually was playing with the thought of creating a lazy assembler like machine < 1361651918 795057 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :under lazy evaluation you mutate that thunk so that the next time it's evaluated, the result is re-used < 1361651924 834631 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :*language < 1361651949 523439 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :just as an exercise to see how it could be done < 1361651972 416321 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you can do that pretty easily with thunks too, though, it's just a few more lines to think about. < 1361652048 665879 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: how would that work? < 1361652064 271481 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1361652126 999288 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl_: read ezyang's stuff < 1361652140 210649 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://blog.ezyang.com/2011/04/the-haskell-heap/ < 1361652149 448418 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :+ the follow-up posts it links < 1361652153 42435 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has pretty pictures < 1361652163 627116 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott i have a confession < 1361652170 663895 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :we all do < 1361652173 57473 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a matrix isn't enough to define an analytic function uniquely < 1361652174 364607 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1361652175 255627 :AnotherTest1!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1361652177 179275 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-12-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, are you actually a bicycle? < 1361652185 291182 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dude it says "bike" are you blind < 1361652209 426412 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Read/Writes to register/memory is not done immediately < 1361652230 86105 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: isn't that a bit obvious < 1361652256 898571 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but i was still thinking about it < 1361652264 581537 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there an algorithm for compressing joust programs optimally? < 1361652296 520836 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :compressing howso < 1361652306 388275 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's probably useless but ... < 1361652309 319575 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you mean to ()* ()% then yeah < 1361652317 848464 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :expanding those provably halts < 1361652324 239598 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can just brute-force up to the length of the program < 1361652327 667289 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: this is very cute < 1361652401 28407 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder where Fiora went < 1361652412 494606 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :she got pissed after a talk about racism here < 1361652462 732296 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1361652464 426921 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i feel bad < 1361652466 881253 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :was that the awful one that i logread < 1361652475 56898 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wasn't involved in the discussion but I mean i feel bad generally < 1361652494 579377 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :she was cool, I miss the occasional cpu architecture babble < 1361652522 538243 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah :( < 1361652537 297933 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I missed that discussion too < 1361652584 103401 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you ever used the circle algorithm from HAKMEM? < 1361652591 6313 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :discussion is a bit of an overly charitable word for it < 1361652631 515367 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: no < 1361652643 395049 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: is it the sort of thing that people should get banned over? < 1361652644 106324 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes I have < 1361652653 803913 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :driving useful people from the channel is bad :( < 1361652661 456137 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: depends what your threshold for banning is < 1361652684 412132 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably not something you would ban over from what i know of your op policy < 1361652685 730210 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: it gave me a kinda elipse thing < 1361652695 541563 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I guess one way to put it is, if the situation between two people has got bad enough that they refuse to be in the channel simultaneously < 1361652698 964336 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you ban whichever one is less useful < 1361652699 451478 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably something I would ban for but then I'd ban everyone who looks at me wrong < 1361652718 998699 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw you should op me < 1361652720 181289 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I can do that < 1361652729 238367 :nortti!~juhani@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION looks at elliott wrong
< 1361652744 336442 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: =_= < 1361652755 599105 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you trying to get banned < 1361652758 466449 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: the problem is you're a bit too impulsive to make a good op, you'd make good decisions most of the time but harm the channel every now and then < 1361652777 286421 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: hey I've wanted to ban like three idiots on the esolang wiki and restrained myself!! < 1361652790 226138 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: for what? making bad BF derivatives? < 1361652791 670807 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :except for NSQX. but it turns out banning him doesn't actually work anyway < 1361652795 132391 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: if you still talk to her, maybe you can tell her that people here wish she would come back < 1361652798 278800 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean if you want to < 1361652810 848389 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: ok. < 1361652828 93992 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what kmc said < 1361652834 822023 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: in my case, its more that I'm upset that she was driven away for no good reason < 1361652849 681043 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :she doesn't have to come back if she doesn't want to, but whatever drove her away needs fixing < 1361652859 900654 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or him, I guess < 1361652862 182316 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :female name, but… < 1361652864 470655 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-12-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What happened to tiffany and Madam_Konada or whatever her name was < 1361652886 903167 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was this notorious racism discussion? < 1361652913 328532 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it wasn't really notorious < 1361652919 410642 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, and how come none of the channel regulars were there? < 1361652926 921759 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: sure < 1361652928 792132 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes sense < 1361652929 646301 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just have a really good logreading memory < 1361652942 11703 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, the most plausible reason for "none of the channel regulars were involved" is "it was in a different channel", regardless of which channel you're talking about < 1361652945 260769 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless it has no regulars < 1361652959 611502 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well bike and fiora were involved :P < 1361652975 212837 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway it's probably not worth doing anything about N weeks later < 1361652981 229551 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike isn't the first person I'd think of when asked to list #esoteric regulars < 1361652994 157055 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :esoteric irregulars < 1361652997 400504 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike has been here like months now! < 1361653003 504012 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you believe taneb's been here since... < 1361653004 808756 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs taneb < 1361653008 883966 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah the rlist < 1361653012 772777 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, taneb's in my head as a regular < 1361653012 954934 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-12-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :August 2011, I think < 1361653017 241582 :nortti!~juhani@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, who are consisdered regulars and who are not? < 1361653017 997640 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the discussion is here if anyone cares http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/2013-01-27.txt < 1361653027 199852 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :all i do is sit around not knowing haskell < 1361653028 115627 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.12059 < 1361653030 339778 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :p. irregular imo < 1361653034 43890 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: which of us became a #esoteric regular earlier? was it me? < 1361653037 638568 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know Vorpal came later < 1361653040 129913 :impomatic!~digital_w@146.90.165.144 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is irregular :-)
< 1361653044 101127 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-12-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Crikey, 2010!? < 1361653046 598433 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :2010-09-06.txt:20:39:56: -!- Taneb has joined #esoteric. < 1361653050 338297 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you joined in 2010 < 1361653052 775668 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then left < 1361653053 277777 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :when did i join < 1361653055 695977 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :until 2011 < 1361653063 882235 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was probably like 2 days ago < 1361653065 474764 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I joined a few months before I really began to talk much though < 1361653071 719708 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc I joined in 2006 < 1361653074 984680 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(when I was 10!) < 1361653077 706524 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then disappeared until 2007 < 1361653081 376194 :impomatic!~digital_w@146.90.165.144 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmm... when did I join? < 1361653081 857014 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :without saying anything < 1361653083 867366 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-12-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure if the first Taneb is actually me < 1361653087 409210 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway the thing is that fiora is pretty much on high alert for various bad-isms, especially on freenode, land of the grognards < 1361653087 915370 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc there were too many people on the user list and I got scared :( < 1361653089 998142 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: later, definitely, I'm just not sure how much later < 1361653091 704763 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did you know about esoteric programming languages at age 10 < 1361653103 425212 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl_: i spen[dt] a lot of time on the internet < 1361653105 387125 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a grognards, well i guess i can tell from context < 1361653106 165587 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yeah, a lot of people dislike bad-isms < 1361653115 207954 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo badness is actually good < 1361653121 667644 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :- controversial opinion < 1361653129 377753 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, what is a bad-ism? < 1361653134 504010 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-12-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember ever asking cpressey about Hackiki < 1361653135 254471 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i originally heard it as slang for somebody who gets into long involved arguments about which edition of D&D is best < 1361653140 593670 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: it's when your aim gets hecked < 1361653141 386376 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: in this case racism < 1361653144 338719 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't totally understand what in that discussion made it worth leaving the channel forever but, i have done the same thing in similar contexts < 1361653147 149215 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where's the discussion? < 1361653150 131753 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, I see < 1361653155 876028 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's no discussion. She just left < 1361653159 340374 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-12-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember the second incident on that log < 1361653166 816737 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are we going to restart the discussion by proxy of discussing it for an hour < 1361653169 273372 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because that seems unproductive < 1361653190 673354 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, also who is fiora? < 1361653194 112337 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a good discussion < 1361653202 959119 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: someone i know from elsewhere. does a lot of x86 hacking. < 1361653210 69958 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1361653229 853940 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I like how you were mentioned before you even joined < 1361653239 923611 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :she was here for a few... days? weeks? after reading kmc's article about injecting code into a packet filter JIT < 1361653241 626431 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-12-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, oerjan < 1361653250 423405 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :she was here over a month I think? < 1361653253 112332 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it felt like a while anyway < 1361653260 780087 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am timeless < 1361653269 915329 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was a while < 1361653273 189926 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you are a bicycle < 1361653274 839650 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they don't really age < 1361653280 685342 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-12-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They do tyre < 1361653290 774870 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: imo Taneb needs kicking for that < 1361653300 845035 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what, bad puns? < 1361653302 337831 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-12-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I agree < 1361653306 968272 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: oerjan has a patent < 1361653307 132022 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then we'd have to get rid of oerjan too < 1361653312 194069 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :see he even agrees < 1361653316 249341 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the best thing for the channel < 1361653334 185952 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: btw you should learn haskell < 1361653336 609623 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd be like coming of age < 1361653339 243445 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo agda < 1361653350 740760 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-12-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, I seriously do not remember the first time I appeared in those logs < 1361653360 984186 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-12-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seem to remember asking that much later? < 1361653380 44055 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should just implement barebones haskell 98 in a language i'm used to like a sensible person < 1361653384 965052 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is there a standard past 98 < 1361653388 70275 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :was Taneb the first name you used here? istr you changed name a million times before becoming taneb < 1361653389 126732 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :2010 < 1361653391 793001 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but maybe it was actually after) < 1361653394 582348 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haskell of the future < 1361653396 844244 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not very different < 1361653396 908020 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :taneb was the first < 1361653401 184522 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's "retro" now < 1361653406 586852 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they said they were going to do one spec per year < 1361653406 888853 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did they like kill that n+k pattern thing < 1361653408 22930 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-12-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It went Taneb -> Ngevd -> atriq -> Taneb < 1361653412 998397 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or whatever it was people yelled about < 1361653414 628394 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but so far 2010 is the latest < 1361653415 442659 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-12-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :With some switching back and forth < 1361653418 492277 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :starting out in a new community by lurking is common < 1361653418 816563 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: standard haskell is still kind of "a pain" to implement < 1361653422 388763 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the safest method, really < 1361653429 736150 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: so i would assume < 1361653430 52453 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: there's a paper "Typing Haskell in Haskell" < 1361653433 876695 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesome < 1361653437 214228 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-12-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I'm crap at lurking < 1361653437 683341 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's good < 1361653442 315570 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only other method that even has a moderately good success rate is starting by contributing < 1361653453 990629 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i read a paper once about how you couldn't embed system fi n itself, or something < 1361653456 122218 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you read that and the original STG machine paper and "How to make a fast curry" < 1361653462 663454 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then i think you can implement haskell pretty well < 1361653475 464005 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.haskell.org/pipermail/haskell/2009-November/021750.html ← differences between H98 and H10 < 1361653485 318207 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: n+k patterns are gone yes < 1361653492 632948 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuckin' knew it < 1361653499 920206 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: well you can interpret haskell much more easily < 1361653507 264441 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let n+1 = 3 in n < 1361653507 868033 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or even compile it dumbly < 1361653509 776246 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : n < 1361653511 698177 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but interpreters are boring < 1361653513 119946 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :with just dead simple thunking < 1361653517 384240 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :buh? < 1361653524 916954 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats not an n+k pattern < 1361653530 104318 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats a redefinition of (+) < 1361653534 14189 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1361653536 583681 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're rusty kmc!!!!! < 1361653539 55322 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or rather a shadowing < 1361653539 492401 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let f (n+1) = n in f 3 < 1361653542 2762 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:8: Parse error in pattern: n + 1 < 1361653547 414397 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :awwwww snap < 1361653554 374478 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo implementing haskell is a really bad way to learn it because you'll get confused by operational details < 1361653560 46857 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :) a.{~97+5?5 < 1361653560 376556 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl_: aedbc < 1361653563 977358 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :details like what < 1361653565 610946 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :since you need to think at a much lower level (and specify much more) than you need to effectively code in haskell < 1361653571 429303 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :) a.{~97+5?26 < 1361653571 502358 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yeah < 1361653571 923319 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl_: oghyx < 1361653589 584369 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"that's my taneb name generator" < 1361653593 157343 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: well the whole evaluation strategy is irrelevant when reasoning about haskell normally and thinking in low-level terms is a common impediment to people learning haskell < 1361653596 157826 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :esp. as it relates to non-strictness < 1361653607 866876 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl_: Is that gs2? < 1361653608 607481 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1361653609 251314 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm already reasonably familiar with laziness, i think < 1361653612 804788 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's J < 1361653619 188123 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. Ic. < 1361653636 312949 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: non-strictness and laziness are not the same thing :) < 1361653652 254264 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 1'a'zr\0 25rn5.+sish < 1361653652 703651 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : ERROR: Burlesque: (si) Invalid arguments! < 1361653654 154564 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sigh < 1361653657 161947 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the difference then < 1361653657 177360 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh :( < 1361653663 766514 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(indeed, equating the two -- though generally harmless -- is a common example of operational details getting mixed up in haskell) < 1361653675 556471 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 1'a'zr\0 0 25rn5.+sish < 1361653676 145874 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : dbham < 1361653679 754436 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I still try to think about the order of program flow, if not evaluation order < 1361653684 167931 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-12-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hang on < 1361653684 498410 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: non-strictness simply means you have functions f for which f _|_ is not _|_, it is a property solely about the denotational semantics < 1361653689 512826 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, a $ b c means "evaluate b c, then run a on the result" < 1361653691 606099 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-12-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hang on hang on hang on < 1361653695 224332 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: laziness is the implementation of non-strictness with call-by-need < 1361653696 182384 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as a result I end up having to try to read Haskell programs right to left < 1361653696 685809 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelog olsner < 1361653700 261376 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which gives you sharing < 1361653703 150300 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: oh, that's sensible. < 1361653705 677528 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but e.g. call-by-name is also non-strict < 1361653705 691973 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.13540 < 1361653717 673234 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[2] [6] [five] [make-array] [rand] [lowercases] [index] < 1361653720 601874 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's 9 bytes of GS2 < 1361653724 735039 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-12-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This isn't the first time I've been told that I've interacted with something before I can remember having interacted with them < 1361653732 853823 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t ($|) < 1361653736 172728 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a -> b) -> Strategy a -> a -> b < 1361653746 286783 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: You can always use flip (.) < 1361653750 387105 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's defined somewhere < 1361653753 967993 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (|) < 1361653754 875706 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does [five] even exist :| < 1361653755 326114 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :parse error on input `|' < 1361653757 649785 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :21:08:09 as in, a $ b c means "evaluate b c, then run a on the result" < 1361653765 320746 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: the fact that that's inaccurate is a good argument against your reasoning process :) < 1361653786 2394 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what it means in terms of program flow order < 1361653789 791491 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let ($|) = flip (.) in "abc" $| reverse $| take 2 < 1361653791 527823 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `GHC.Types.Char' < 1361653791 558553 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskell doesn't evaluate in that sequence < 1361653791 573201 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : with actual type... < 1361653796 781071 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's what the result means < 1361653805 612384 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :evaluation order is irrelevant, program flow order sort-of isn't < 1361653806 755663 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1361653815 541461 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's hard to understand the program otherwise < 1361653815 731977 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: well, if (b c) is (error "foo"), then evaluating it throws an exception < 1361653823 15322 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but evaluating (const () $ b c) doesn't < 1361653827 456742 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that like (?) < 1361653828 443168 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (?) < 1361653829 736470 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in scope: `?' < 1361653839 470950 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I don't think of evaluating it as throwing an exception in Haskell < 1361653850 190046 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just like ??? doesn't throw an exception in Perl 6 < 1361653855 736912 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let (?) = flip ($) in "abc" ? reverse ? take 2 < 1361653857 370791 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "cb" < 1361653865 295952 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you define evaluation to do nothing, then I agree your reading is correct < 1361653871 361304 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1361653874 179783 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's inaccurate even if (b c) isn't _|_ < 1361653878 1942 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yeah. < 1361653881 222021 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :did anything ever happen to haskell2011? < 1361653882 601113 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's flip ($) not flip (.) < 1361653885 772855 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is _not_ evaluated to WHNF until a cases on its result < 1361653897 746696 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haskell 2002, electric boogaloo < 1361653902 518024 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I think I mentally elide the laziness < 1361653905 959549 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, apply it at a different level < 1361653924 109183 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm… I work with call-by-name a lot < 1361653937 656380 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: if it's remotely relevant i already know the case-is-evaluation thing from a spjones paper < 1361653957 461552 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 1R@#q < 1361653958 8963 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : Ain't nobody got time fo' dat! < 1361653984 180346 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-12-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : by some freak coincidence taneb is elliott's next door neighbor < 1361653990 338712 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-12-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, a prophet < 1361653997 199268 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: did you check? < 1361654017 387511 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p4FDCCFB3.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 19.0/20130215130331] < 1361654020 922247 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-12-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I'm between old Mr Snowdon and the Bradshaws < 1361654023 920998 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey has anyone here tried http://scratch.mit.edu/ < 1361654024 289580 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-12-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No room for the Hirds < 1361654026 57804 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's "an esolang" < 1361654032 922930 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl_: I've heard of it < 1361654034 289829 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-12-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl_, yes, and it really isn't < 1361654049 446864 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-12-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually < 1361654084 147965 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION looks through extensions
< 1361654084 609916 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-12-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm < 1361654088 741232 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's Language.Python do? < 1361654120 437751 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: extensions? < 1361654130 326865 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stuff added in 2010. < 1361654136 654919 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in this case, dots in module names) < 1361654172 85676 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was actually added in 2002 < 1361654174 868685 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but used much earlier < 1361654180 101746 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, so I see. < 1361654190 540316 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what you mean by Language.Python though, Haskell 2010 doesn't specify any such module :P < 1361654208 462320 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's in the wiki's article on hierarchical names as an example < 1361654230 847449 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :on hackage or whatever < 1361654237 431270 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh sure < 1361654245 688933 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1361654248 140930 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1361654251 273967 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well http://hackage.haskell.org/package/language-python < 1361654264 755129 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see. < 1361654287 449017 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hth' < 1361654288 788421 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: hth': not found < 1361654292 501829 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1361654337 31456 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl_: Are you going to implement langtons ant now? < 1361654340 377197 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or should I do it tomorrow. < 1361654346 17500 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1361654348 592028 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was going to do that! < 1361654351 895054 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sounds fun < 1361654356 835843 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok. < 1361654364 808000 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool. < 1361654377 36613 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you have questions just ask me :) < 1361654396 229125 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can put it on rosettacode now. < 1361654408 667414 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was so evil to add Burlesque there to troll everybody with it. < 1361654422 182988 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my favorite part of rosetta code is the befunge examples < 1361654422 214237 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh < 1361654423 356445 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :not now < 1361654424 461613 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :*then < 1361654430 338894 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1361654445 120967 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :my sometimes brain thing mixes up < 1361654497 645011 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm probably going to have a look at conways game of life in burlesque tomorrow. < 1361654501 459669 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I have some time to waste. < 1361654527 86009 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-12-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc, the Haskell version of the Langton's ant was written by me, and really sucks < 1361654540 55687 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't be so mean to yoself :( < 1361654547 532508 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. < 1361654552 435293 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :We all write sucky code for rosettacode. < 1361654573 261877 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want to give away free codegolf solutions anyway :) < 1361654624 566610 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :be mean to yourself < 1361654626 400853 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of < 1361654632 321649 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :including Bike < 1361654633 321729 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i made a scratch program for rosetta code < 1361654644 811329 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I'm mean to you, will you become myself? < 1361654652 155736 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://rosettacode.org/wiki/Mandelbrot_set#Scratch < 1361654663 874432 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's no output example :( rip < 1361654676 792277 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice though < 1361654679 25253 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-12-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hang on < 1361654689 854069 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-12-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I once wrote a Mandelbrot set in Scratch < 1361654713 986575 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :other good parts of rosettacode include: not recognizing some of the languages < 1361654716 24454 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1361654716 96473 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like "seed7" < 1361654718 16635 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a graphical programming language? < 1361654721 796918 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is < 1361654725 501190 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow that looks crazy < 1361654730 461963 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Based on the BASIC Version. Due to the TI-83's lack of power, it takes around 2 hours to complete at 16 iterations." also. < 1361654733 538338 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :how versatile is it though? < 1361654736 32893 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: it's for pedagogy iirc < 1361654744 523650 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1361654744 685898 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's for kids. so not versatile at all < 1361654746 158165 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also slow < 1361654746 496956 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The fact that you can create an image of the Mandelbrot Set with XSLT is sometimes under-appreciated." < 1361654756 661087 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl_, Logo isn't that limited iirc < 1361654766 754309 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm yeah < 1361654769 205854 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl_, so it doesn't need to be bad just because it is for kids < 1361654781 87107 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl_, but it probably needs to be bad since it is graphic :P < 1361654783 94503 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :could be worse, it could be alice < 1361654793 649425 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, there are cool graphical programming languages < 1361654806 806989 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh man. alice is used at my school to teach "programming" < 1361654813 97823 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :TIL that Python comes with a turtle graphics module < 1361654818 849759 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't ever use it though; not all classes got those lessons < 1361654822 547129 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://docs.python.org/2/library/turtle.html < 1361654827 435 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i used turtle in my freshman classes! < 1361654827 466123 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl_, what is "alice"? < 1361654842 810601 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this http://www.alice.org/index.php < 1361654852 379681 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's less than good < 1361654858 976153 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1361654876 157698 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, the CVS article on wikipedia argues that non-atomic commits are mitigated by doing all work on branches and "the final merge is atomic, and performed in the data center by QA." < 1361654882 91102 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it references Alice in Wonderland. While that is a good book, there are way too many references to that already < 1361654890 245011 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I say, with a nick referencing it... < 1361654898 324403 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the next point claims slow branching is fine because "CVS assumes that the majority of work takes place on the trunk, and that branches should generally be short-lived or historical." < 1361654909 844835 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually referencing Alice Through the Looking Glass, but whatever < 1361654937 246528 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, lol what < 1361654960 320314 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :is someone trying to defend CVS? < 1361654964 616433 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :*why* < 1361654998 952545 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: i'm installing burlesque locally atm < 1361655009 222683 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: in the data centre???? < 1361655034 535991 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :21:25:46 "The fact that you can create an image of the Mandelbrot Set with XSLT is sometimes under-appreciated." < 1361655041 301116 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :also why would QA do merging at all < 1361655047 777564 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: https://github.com/isomorphism/esoteric-fractals/blob/master/Make/Makefile < 1361655057 42998 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: to work aroudn a broken version control system? < 1361655066 813138 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, I guess...... < 1361655068 675771 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: the vorpal sword shows up in Alice? < 1361655082 350242 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, in the Jabberwocky poem yes < 1361655087 380944 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is the source of it < 1361655090 163368 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: at first i was like "wait, what language is this for" and then i was like "oh" < 1361655100 488983 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I thought Jabberwocky was a separate thing, I mean. < 1361655121 888280 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, you never read the books then I guess? < 1361655123 831565 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how it defines shittons and then proceeds to not use it ever again < 1361655125 927736 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :you really should < 1361655135 832036 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the final merge should be performed by a licensed & bonded mergemonger with a team of strong oxen < 1361655136 636104 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, that is gnu make isn't it? < 1361655152 927729 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1361655154 844112 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: i haven't read any carroll, no < 1361655169 892005 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, it is a classic, of course < 1361655174 227080 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :both of the Alice books < 1361655178 520171 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :'course < 1361655179 9684 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-12-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, Jabberwocky is a poem-within-a-book of Alice Through the Looking Glass < 1361655191 215727 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-12-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hunting of the Snark is separate < 1361655194 71587 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i second the carroll recommendation (this second is 50x better than the first because Vorpal was the first) < 1361655194 727829 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1361655197 464259 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, also they are references all over popular culture < 1361655201 664583 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've only read like four books explicitly based on Alice, yes < 1361655211 564075 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also read "What the Tortoise Said to Achilles". < 1361655215 76996 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, oh come on, stop hating already < 1361655218 195790 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one i may have read already. < 1361655222 861479 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-12-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alice is like Flatland but backwards < 1361655241 792604 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, how do you mean < 1361655256 869525 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-12-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Flatland is about mathematics, but with references to Victorian culture < 1361655267 992451 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-12-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alice is about Victorian culture, but with references to mathematics < 1361655269 306948 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you should look it up and see if you have. < 1361655274 767748 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then if you haven't, you can read it < 1361655287 64956 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, wasn't that also a satire over the state of the church at the time or something? (I have to admit I haven't read the book) < 1361655300 28251 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-12-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who knows < 1361655340 295843 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep i've read it. < 1361655344 116516 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't know it was originally in Mind. < 1361655359 384751 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :much less dry than On Denoting, that's for sure < 1361655380 840998 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, anyway, the last example of "quoting Alice just cause'" I saw was some shoehorned in quotes on some loading screens after certain missions in Far Cry 3 < 1361655386 709844 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: is there an easy way to make "matrices"? like "3 2 something" -> {{0 0 0} {0 0 0}} < 1361655387 635614 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha < 1361655389 833665 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't even fit all that well < 1361655400 592081 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: that one is also to blame for Hofstadter, I think < 1361655410 290755 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah hofstadter's definitely where i read it < 1361655455 213626 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, GEB? < 1361655469 562345 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :should I (try to) read GEB? < 1361655473 899200 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1361655478 798771 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :really? < 1361655481 600387 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are we talking about carroll < 1361655486 359877 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my favourite thing about carroll < 1361655488 374355 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't "try to", it's not like it's super technical < 1361655490 282350 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: probably not < 1361655495 202581 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@77.122.91.146 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1361655495 840437 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1361655497 690144 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, oh? < 1361655499 179955 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I refer you to http://esolangs.org/wiki/User:Chris%20Pressey#Esoteric_Reading_List.21 < 1361655505 247029 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then leave you to make your own decisions < 1361655507 429072 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that when somebody told him about hyperbolic geometry his response was like "well that's just stupid" < 1361655522 764751 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: continuing in a long line of mathematicians, eh < 1361655525 345409 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: he had no idea how right he was < 1361655536 753304 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The book is riddled with errors, but has a great attitude." < 1361655537 860621 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, hm < 1361655548 225850 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361655551 78339 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, :D < 1361655560 696433 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Oh conflating it with Wolfram is a bit harsh. < 1361655566 918785 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I actually like hyperbolic geometry, it is cool and weird < 1361655579 357092 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: cprsesey never conflates < 1361655581 932216 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*cpressey < 1361655585 196426 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :only relates < 1361655593 648110 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway GEB is much better than wolfram of course < 1361655607 139214 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is an interesting book, I won't say it has no values, but Hofstadter is way too sure of himself < 1361655607 597130 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Don't worry if you don't know topology -- it's not the topology that makes this a worthwhile read, it's the counterexamples." < 1361655613 370106 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh cpressey < 1361655614 339046 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, I think hofstadter is pretty wrong about how minds work, but i still enjoyed reading it < 1361655622 645170 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and borders on quackery when he starts talking about consciousness I think < 1361655641 99767 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my favourite thing about hofstadter is that he has a harem of beautiful french women < 1361655647 626528 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have "Fluid Analogies" < 1361655650 218922 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also you have to live through a few hundred pages of him going through formal proofs step by step < 1361655652 967517 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know that he makes any claims falsifiable enough to be called "quackery" < 1361655659 811858 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i gave up reading it because I was like, no, that's not gonna work bro < 1361655660 921658 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, seriously? < 1361655670 459364 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc unfalsifiable claims are still quackery... < 1361655674 387860 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: some would argue every unfalsifiable claim constitutes quackery < 1361655678 985838 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(though I don't quite agree) < 1361655680 787829 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shrug < 1361655701 519903 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, well iirc the source wasn't very reliable but it's far too amusing to be false < 1361655701 678363 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway maybe GEB is "one of those books everyone should read" and it influenced my thinking < 1361655705 306078 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I can't really endorse it < 1361655705 609988 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly it's just a bunch of cute sideways punny analogies and then a kind of incoherent "what if brains are that?" < 1361655714 259741 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha yes < 1361655716 514820 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1361655722 712003 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have to read that book... < 1361655735 531649 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think The Mind's I was probably better for consciousness < 1361655736 249290 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i agree that people (myself included) tend to see it as a coherent worldview and only years later realize how handwavey it is < 1361655740 580067 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly it is worth reading just for the wit < 1361655745 401773 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :helping: it has an actual philosopher editing < 1361655756 283854 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :GEB also has a great intro to metamathematics though < 1361655761 912715 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is not handwavy in the least < 1361655782 670089 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it presents incompleteness and such in a way that's accessible and yet far more precise than any other 'popular' presentation < 1361655833 345896 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i probably learned predicate logic from GEB < 1361655849 118819 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hofstadter's "A Person Paper on Purity in Language" (http://www.cs.virginia.edu/~evans/cs655/readings/purity.html) was the thing that first made me realise that ingrained sexism existed (or perhaps rather: is a thing that could even be conceived of existed), I think < 1361655863 817519 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah that was good too < 1361655865 734047 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, ingrained prejudice in general < 1361655883 79401 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like "oh" < 1361655928 2660 :ogrom!~del@143.122.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee QUIT :Quit: Left < 1361655961 908713 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I always took the ending of geb as noncannon < 1361656005 667283 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it is immediately preceded by the idea of padding the end of a book so you don't know when it really ends < 1361656023 482939 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: is there a way to run a block n times? < 1361656086 954659 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork, couldn't that just be a trick to make you believe it wasn't canon? < 1361656104 633539 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"cnaon" < 1361656108 519077 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*canon < 1361656109 681098 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork, also non-cannon with two n would be something that is not a piece of artillery < 1361656110 16418 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there geb fanfiction < 1361656137 794921 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh E! < 1361656151 516376 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I invoke rule 34 on it < 1361656157 622020 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be pretty great to see someone failing to write a crab canon < 1361656158 15586 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-12-44.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1361656162 90475 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no, what have I done? < 1361656172 236581 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I googled "GEB fanfiction" and got HPMOR, fuck yes < 1361656181 652147 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1361656189 55249 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's HPMOR? < 1361656203 192999 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gods Eater Burst FanFiction Archive | FanFiction < 1361656204 168996 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yudkowsky's harry potter fanfic < 1361656205 319103 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no google < 1361656208 539248 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hear it is bad < 1361656223 390327 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can not stand the first chapter < 1361656230 43233 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ffcdn2012.fictionpressllc.netdna-cdn.com/imageu/1413586/150/ holy shit < 1361656238 307291 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i heard about that thing but i just don't understand what it is < 1361656247 532787 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I'm reminded of TV Tropes' guide on how to tell which side of a harry potter fanfic is the protagonist < 1361656254 335626 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Occupation: International Baccalaureate student (Majors: Higher Mathematics, Design Technology, Music; Minors: Economics, English, Japanese) < 1361656258 723868 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: it has a tv tropes article < 1361656258 786224 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hit the jackpot here < 1361656262 624536 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :close enough? < 1361656264 45569 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, is that tolkien?? < 1361656264 683573 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric : Phantom_Hoover: I'm reminded of TV Tropes' guide on how to tell which side of a harry potter fanfic is the protagonist <-- oh? < 1361656268 762548 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does it entail < 1361656269 449349 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: orwell, of course < 1361656275 334045 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :502 Bad Gateway on bike's link :( < 1361656279 247089 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1361656280 56514 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1361656281 28228 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric : http://ffcdn2012.fictionpressllc.netdna-cdn.com/imageu/1413586/150/ holy shit <-- 502 Bad Gateway? < 1361656282 690092 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me look it up so other people don't have to visit TV Tropes < 1361656284 919595 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Author has written 9 stories for Transformers/Beast Wars." < 1361656293 771543 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i didn't realise orwell's real name was The E. Language < 1361656302 29304 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-74-117.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1361656304 317103 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i support a guy with a name that terrible too < 1361656307 744114 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :imagine how much he must get teased about it < 1361656308 194344 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :little known fact < 1361656314 332486 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, can you post a working version of that link? < 1361656321 815072 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i remember looking up 'scorpius' and being royally pissed off that like a quarter of the results were harry potter fanfics < 1361656325 417027 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: did you really think that was tolkien < 1361656325 778121 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently i cannot, vorpal < 1361656331 698032 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.fanfiction.net/u/1413586/Seien24 here you go though < 1361656332 562371 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, im bad face < 1361656334 379423 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, neither me nor nooodl_ got it to work < 1361656339 190800 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also how do you pronounce tolkien < 1361656341 454364 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I'm a Libertarian and an atheist. I detest needing to eat or sleep." < 1361656350 764563 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i say tolky-en to remind myself it's not "tolkein" < 1361656352 856460 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: tokin' < 1361656353 941248 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bleh, I'm not sure offhand what page it's on < 1361656363 900505 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dislikes: Most people, < 1361656366 174170 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh... < 1361656370 491568 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike: thumbs up < 1361656371 762536 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl_: nice < 1361656373 553592 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you'll have to read all of them anyway, so it doesn't really matter where you start < 1361656378 788888 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i remember when i would have written a statement like that < 1361656381 713184 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that reminds me of one of my favorite internet games < 1361656382 779557 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Favourite Shakespeare play: < 1361656384 235458 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::||||||| < 1361656386 757689 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, sounds like Sgeo except a dickhead < 1361656388 961837 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1361656391 830695 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :IN A CATEGORY OF ITS OWN < 1361656392 316698 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :going to fanfiction.net and looking at the crossover section for thousands-year-old literature < 1361656397 923030 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I pronounce Tolkien in Sindarin of course < 1361656404 136984 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Dislikes: [...] incompetence" < 1361656413 283187 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :man I just love incompetence though < 1361656418 774646 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :somebody in this world has thought that Powerpuff Girls/Aenid slash fanfiction was a good idea < 1361656419 668215 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :gimme some of that incompetence and I'll have my saturday night < 1361656420 316047 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, is there gilgamesh fanfic < 1361656424 548123 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there must be gilgamesh fanfic < 1361656431 11432 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: you know I can't quite disagree < 1361656433 961902 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it's aeneiad you cock < 1361656438 202682 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what about some illiteracy < 1361656442 973903 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Æneiad < 1361656447 72083 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: lol, latin < 1361656459 772663 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :relatedly: "Dido and Anaeas" < 1361656460 648654 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's apparently aeneid < 1361656469 334542 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Odyssey: Pokemon Ranger style! by XxDragonstarxX reviews < 1361656469 349164 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Will Spenser ever reach Ithica in time to stop Billy and his army of suitors from marrying his wife Natumi?What has he gone through?At which losses? < 1361656472 593644 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this was a good idea Bike < 1361656475 394720 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's "aeneis" if you're Good < 1361656477 363221 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, gilgamesh fanfic? Stop hurting my brain :/ < 1361656477 965762 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1361656483 381604 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.fanfiction.net/s/6365901/1/The-Scibe-Of-Gilgamesh < 1361656487 953549 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh god < 1361656488 929487 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Odysseus and the Battle of Hogwarts by asymmetricalpasta03 < 1361656488 943884 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :This was an assignment for our Odessey unit in 9th grade. It is horrible. I expect this to get very little in the way of views and taken down. I wasn't impressed with it then, and am not now. But hey, it might be great literature for somebody. Enjoy. Or don't. Oh, one more thing. It's set in Book 6: Consider this your spoiler warning. < 1361656492 422103 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not fanfic!!! < 1361656503 892171 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the Priestess of Ereshkigal, Gwenevere Eveili" < 1361656504 4355 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want, like, gilgamesh/enkidu slash < 1361656509 932912 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i hope you understand how this works < 1361656510 239529 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike < 1361656512 683740 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: isn't that the original < 1361656514 413022 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have made me bleed < 1361656515 410425 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey monqy we're looking at bad fanfiction < 1361656522 37287 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im going to < 1361656526 826681 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :look for crossover fanfics < 1361656526 984855 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this because of sgeo < 1361656527 15189 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: You have 2 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them. < 1361656532 987941 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :between literary famous things and other things < 1361656536 897477 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy, what? no < 1361656542 483303 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like aeneid + harry potter or something? < 1361656545 384313 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a horrible thing to say < 1361656576 696056 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan, a prophet <- AUM < 1361656594 735104 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Slender Man and Hetalia crossover ONESHOT! Warnings: a little FrUk, America x France, swearing, etc..." < 1361656596 319468 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-74-117.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :??? AUM < 1361656597 737568 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a good game < 1361656619 726973 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is this hetalia thing < 1361656621 715882 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-74-117.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, two things I used to be in to then I got bored then they got really popular < 1361656628 695228 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, was just about to ask the same < 1361656630 540583 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-74-117.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, it's like Scandinavia and the World but different < 1361656648 129311 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.fanfiction.net/crossovers/Minecraft/7691/ Yeah, I'm done after this. < 1361656648 592768 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :..oh! now I get it the "this will blow you mind" comments are sarcasm < 1361656649 694122 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, what is "Scandinavia and the World"? < 1361656650 208930 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it cloyingly japanese < 1361656663 786722 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-74-117.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, depends on the definition of "cloyingly" < 1361656666 864788 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc it's an anime where a bunch of countries are represented as characters and have fun times together < 1361656667 730002 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.fanfiction.net/Bible-and-Minecraft-Crossovers/700/7691/ < 1361656671 234800 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: it's anthropomorphised world war ii < 1361656673 814034 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-74-117.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, something a bit like Hetalia < 1361656674 396435 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :BIBLE-MINECRAFT < 1361656678 366336 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no word yet on why anyone thought this was a good idea < 1361656682 552633 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, ... great ... < 1361656694 493029 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, do they actually touch on, like, the whole holocaust thing < 1361656695 306114 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.fanfiction.net/Back-to-the-Future-and-Great-Expectations-Crossovers/176/4075/ < 1361656698 353695 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1361656699 455528 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :very good < 1361656701 544042 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :good god < 1361656708 715486 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :that could possibly work < 1361656710 570992 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: how are there *25* Minecraft+My Little Pony fanfictions < 1361656717 3563 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should get in on this fanfictions thing < 1361656720 511095 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you understand now < 1361656739 369245 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, how is there any fan fiction for minecraft... < 1361656740 198746 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric : what < 1361656743 159279 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.fanfiction.net/s/8762946/1/Cave-Minecraft < 1361656746 458110 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cave story + minecraft crossover poem < 1361656752 814814 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: go to http://www.fanfiction.net/ and click a "crossover" link < 1361656756 79167 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then click two things < 1361656761 918139 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is there to base minecraft fan fiction on? < 1361656762 900230 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the twist ending is that it's actually terraria + minecraft crossover poem < 1361656766 382314 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :please click that link < 1361656767 150356 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl_: ye i kno < 1361656773 221994 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: oops < 1361656773 573158 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :minecraft has literally no lore or story < 1361656774 372246 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :please < 1361656776 190281 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im twisted < 1361656777 301058 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :including you monqy < 1361656778 930226 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1361656782 607942 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: already done < 1361656796 792108 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's so much ridiculously bad things on this site < 1361656802 651147 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know which part of it is true < 1361656803 530865 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`http://www.fanfiction.net/r/8762946/ reviews < 1361656805 362425 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: /hackenv/http://www.fanfiction.net/r/8762946/: No such file or directory \ /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: /hackenv/http://www.fanfiction.net/r/8762946/: cannot execute: No such file or directory < 1361656807 211997 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1361656835 262013 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nicholas says it like it is < 1361656845 992740 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anime/Manga Crossovers Naruto (15,429) < 1361656857 869689 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is a harry potter fan fiction that is literally just the books typed in with a couple mentions of harry haveing a sister. < 1361656862 487448 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hetalia - Axis Powers (2,308) < 1361656866 638637 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is more important because < 1361656871 297314 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Naruto Crossovers Harry Potter (1,461) < 1361656876 420539 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hetalia axis powers fans are :| < 1361656889 113021 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.fanfiction.net/s/6139756/1/James-Bond-and-the-Black-Man < 1361656889 360068 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeo likes naruto and harry potter fanfiction right < 1361656893 563652 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :james bond + odyssey crossover fanfiction < 1361656896 419767 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(rated M) < 1361656911 371083 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Harry Potter and the cloaked death » by Dinner < 1361656913 154712 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this sounds kool < 1361656914 272804 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Other fun but more depressing things to do include looking up fanfiction by word count. < 1361656922 333420 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's this one of some anime that's like, longer than Proust. < 1361656924 800836 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meeting Death is the end for most, if not all living creatures. But what happens when it is not Death that sends you to your next great adventure? Rated T for death and gore later in the story. No ships, no yaoi, no bashing and no, this story does not feature a pink pony or flubberworms, seriously; why do you keep asking that? < 1361656926 68955 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think this one is nonserious :( < 1361656935 397114 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: great < 1361656940 244836 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :lets write a fan fiction which is a cross over of everything, and also X-rated < 1361656958 562905 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :or if not everything, at least about a 100 things < 1361656958 879334 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Valentine's Day For the Messenger by Kyuubi16 Hermione Granger was never fond of Valentine's Day. Though things might change when a certain spiky blonde hair friend of hers conveys to her why she's his perfect Valentine. < 1361656961 997236 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And Then They All Fucked: An Epic in Terza Rima < 1361656991 784423 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :does actual good fanfic even exist? < 1361656996 334602 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1361657002 809617 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1361657004 928685 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you ever read anything by hans von hozel < 1361657007 46089 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't remember reading good fanfic < 1361657026 593313 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy, no clue who that even is < 1361657037 822360 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i recall reading fanfiction and liking it but i've forgotten what it was < 1361657040 696617 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Things we hide » by Ezra Scarlet -- Naruot hides many things behind that mask of his.So many things that he has no intention of ever telling anyone.Suddenly,Naruto and the rest of team 7 are sent on a mission to protect Harry Potter.Will Naruto be able to keep his many secrets,protect Harry from evil snake-temes and ward of questions from his teamates,all at the same time?takes place during < 1361657046 690604 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the 5th book. < 1361657062 833373 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hans is basically Homer and Shakespeare and Eliot combined in one sexy, sexy package < 1361657065 745530 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy, oh god < 1361657079 669598 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i only read the first 200 pages of HPMOR but it has some good moments < 1361657081 37286 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has 5 chapters < 1361657085 769275 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :t.s. elliott < 1361657088 77131 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :my names elliott Bike < 1361657098 229276 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You are not sexy enough to be in this package. < 1361657099 183983 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry for joke steal < 1361657108 58054 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you know i'm not sexy!!!! < 1361657119 757241 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aren't you like underage < 1361657130 881552 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't you look like a 10-year-old girl < 1361657131 977396 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you trying to entrap me in a snare of illegal child pornography of yourself < 1361657133 221076 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1361657150 249653 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, what is HPMOR? < 1361657158 447340 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not a libertarian. Also, not sure if I might be a dickhead despite implications in this channel that unlike that person, I'm not a dickhead. < 1361657161 154329 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-74-117.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Harry Potter and the... < 1361657165 321225 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-74-117.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Methods of Rationality < 1361657171 232204 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're not a dickhead, sgeo. < 1361657176 819433 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://cache.futurelooks.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/GIGABYTE-G1-Killer-Assassin-2-Sandy-Bridge-E-Motherboard-2.jpg < 1361657183 587269 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-74-117.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thank god for my memory and wasted time on TVTropes < 1361657188 459469 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is the problem with PC hardware < 1361657201 350538 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: are you eating properly? < 1361657204 554570 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, that is the problem with overpriced PC *gaming* hardware < 1361657205 369397 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i'm almost 18 :( < 1361657211 54354 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: amazing < 1361657216 240444 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, you aren't a dickhead < 1361657218 361827 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If .VGM ever add the support of Amiga Paula chip, then I might make the .MOD to .VGM but in order to do so, also I want to know what character set the Amiga ProTracker use for 0x80-0xFF character codes, and the conversion table into UTF-16. < 1361657221 837603 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't have the conviction for it < 1361657223 118427 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: man I remember when I was 10 and knew more than everyone else around me < 1361657223 744528 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was talking via email to a very religious friend recently. After I emailed her something, she said some stuff and then said "she's kind of tired of this conversation, unless ...", and then I replied to that stuff before saying that I'll be quiet now. < 1361657226 78738 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, is it photoshopped? < 1361657230 677382 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: don't think so < 1361657234 539208 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: possibly that even lasted until I was 12 < 1361657237 971310 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Those were bad times, man. Baaaaad times. < 1361657249 103702 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: there's very little between "shit computers for office workers" and "overpriced gaming hardware" < 1361657256 759316 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, work stations? < 1361657260 660678 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in some product categories there is literally nothing < 1361657262 738397 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example wired mice < 1361657290 642694 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :...Oh, *that* kind of product category. < 1361657292 253857 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i read "product categories" as in < 1361657293 417030 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1361657295 207709 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sigh < 1361657295 839715 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the product of two categories < 1361657296 598825 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :NERDS < 1361657302 999049 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, uh, there is or was, I have a MS Comfort Optical Mouse 3000 that I really like < 1361657311 952500 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't think that model is still being made < 1361657327 537551 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, hahah < 1361657343 534512 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826104577 < 1361657344 237102 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1361657344 622618 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want the wired three buttons mouse without the scroll wheel, do they have those? < 1361657356 201348 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've seen 'em < 1361657361 290470 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, that is right hand only right? < 1361657361 756887 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is advertised as a "gaming mouse" but it doesn't have like a glowing cutout of a skeleton fucking a robot elf < 1361657362 647891 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't know if they're still manufactured < 1361657373 175261 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, I shift often so I need a symmetric mouse < 1361657377 558123 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: hm, i guess so < 1361657382 356851 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you shift? < 1361657390 937968 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, to reduce strain on either hand < 1361657396 959676 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had some issues with that in the past < 1361657407 979524 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1361657420 563059 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :so yeah < 1361657464 16803 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, anyway, you can go for work station rather than "gaming" or "cheap office" < 1361657475 427304 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :but usually it ends up even more expensive then < 1361657498 243563 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :say, thinkpad for example < 1361657502 872665 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my computer is like a netbook i got for under $200, i see people talking about buying computers and get mildly frightened < 1361657518 810171 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, why? < 1361657530 254172 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno < 1361657536 226815 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think my desktop cost around 9000 SEK when I bought it < 1361657549 833168 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :and my laptop around that too < 1361657557 240015 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have this case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129042 < 1361657576 683788 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which i like a lot, but there were very few other options in the same quality/price range that don't look entirely ridiculous < 1361657590 596460 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :my laptop is a thinkpad though, so the price/performance is not all that good, but it is well built and has a track point at least < 1361657626 980019 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, I have a Antec P183, it only has a tiny blue LED on front for the power < 1361657633 888427 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :no glowing silliness or such < 1361657646 934523 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :death to all LEDs < 1361657651 351342 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kill, maim, destroy < 1361657663 277928 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, even tiny faint ones? < 1361657665 847906 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1361657669 263384 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :why < 1361657669 971502 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: looks pretty good, like 3x as expensive though < 1361657677 310006 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty sure blue LEDs don't come in "faint" models < 1361657684 860554 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i got the Three Hundred for $40 < 1361657690 542239 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, isolates the noise quite well though < 1361657695 492041 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, which was the main thing for me < 1361657697 118684 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: i put a 10 kΩ resistor in series with my power LED on one of my computers < 1361657705 222457 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that makes it pretty dim < 1361657723 478221 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, lets just say there is a hell of a difference when I open the front door < 1361657739 860690 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, and I'm quite sensitive to noise < 1361657777 386868 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess elliott is a fan of R"hi(ultraviolent leds)hi" < 1361657791 854683 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1361657801 378884 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, well it is pretty weak and it is also recessed, so from where I sit it ends up faint < 1361657822 293019 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, what is that < 1361657861 472691 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: C++11 quotes < 1361657873 209562 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, uh... < 1361657876 500194 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, okay? < 1361657881 519004 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does it mean < 1361657883 115912 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :R"blahblah(text)blahblah" < 1361657891 301447 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can make up your own delimiter. < 1361657892 450389 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :um? < 1361657895 331559 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :really? c++11 has that? < 1361657901 804837 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :C++11 has everything, man. < 1361657917 119353 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-74-117.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :C++11 even has lenses < 1361657919 735635 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-74-117.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :True fact. < 1361657925 820419 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's really hard to tell if something is a joke or an actual c++11 feature < 1361657943 850973 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc should make one of those online quizzes. < 1361657945 835160 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, it does? how? < 1361657957 254235 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-74-117.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, I was joking. shachaf may not have been. < 1361657981 10048 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1361657981 494604 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you should write a lens library for Boost < 1361657981 773222 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: lenses exist in all things < 1361657987 19010 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-74-117.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I don't know enough about C++11 to know if that's impossible or not < 1361658012 417366 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, oh? I haven't really more than glanced at them, so I couldn't possibly comment on that < 1361658065 391123 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone might want to take a list of koans and replace well-chosen words with lens-related terms < 1361658089 317348 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1361658091 145338 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PART :#esoteric < 1361658144 630015 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-74-117.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A monk once asked edwardk, "What is a lens?". edwardk answered him with "The Six Ungraspables." < 1361658165 733351 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Funny, I'm about to ask a Lens question < 1361658171 647672 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i had a dream about lens < 1361658192 276103 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because i have these funky lens memories but i dont think they ever happened in reality < 1361658237 489750 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy, maybe you were high on lenses at the time? < 1361658246 112050 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i sinned yesterday < 1361658256 884509 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well early this morning? < 1361658259 569230 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what sort of sin are we talking here < 1361658266 581923 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :unspeakable???? < 1361658267 445957 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume the paper from a paper plate won't kill me if some gets ingested < 1361658272 211891 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :should we notify the police? < 1361658280 76717 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :um it involved monad explanations < 1361658286 56320 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1361658294 857656 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that thing < 1361658301 121806 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i remember that < 1361658316 786036 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, maybe I mentioned it in here already. < 1361658326 60744 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you did < 1361658353 444332 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1361658359 395383 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :do i need to say some hail monqys < 1361658365 377530 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :please dont < 1361658381 890632 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: food is commonly served on poison < 1361658382 642886 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361658471 539253 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-74-117.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, at the end of his annual summer meditation retreat, said to his monks "The whole summer I have lectured you. Look! Has shachaf any eyebrows?" aristid said: "A robber knows in his heart he is a thief." ocharles said: "Far from dropping off from too much talking, they have grown longer!" But then edwardk forcefully shouted: "Kan!" < 1361658519 313445 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does lens have full kōan support? < 1361658540 601711 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there such a thing as a full kōan? < 1361658551 235517 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-74-117.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, forall f => Functor f < 1361658726 812364 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa, man. < 1361658746 706298 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-74-117.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ignore the incorrect Haskell) < 1361658764 882621 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :night < 1361658770 320553 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-74-117.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Night! < 1361658905 67629 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :khaaaaaaaaaaan < 1361658921 249234 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ the khan extension < 1361658922 766150 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :this CVS Best Practices guide has a chapter on how to "Institutionalize CVS in the Organization" (sadly they mean the wrong thing) < 1361658923 154802 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey Taneb we're minecrafting again < 1361658932 954764 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-74-117.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh no < 1361658936 375184 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-74-117.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The old channel? < 1361658936 540729 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1361658949 384238 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1361658962 615796 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, seems though like everyone except me and Gregor left on an expidition < 1361658968 123571 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's kind of lonely :( < 1361658994 651906 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe Taneb can keep Sgeo company < 1361658996 305002 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1361659000 750531 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :greyknight was at spawn too < 1361659039 491699 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The notion of Kan extensions subsumes all the other fundamental concepts of category theory." cool < 1361659057 655245 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :istr skipping to the end of cftwm and seeing that < 1361659072 305562 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-74-117.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :THis is a fun time to realise I have neither Minecraft nor Java on this computer < 1361660338 568143 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361660772 557848 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1361661155 627625 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-74-117.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A monk once asked edwardk: "What is this place where knowledge is useless?" edwardk answered him: "#esoteric" < 1361661162 634716 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-74-117.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :another lens koan < 1361661183 632608 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i remember when edwardk was in #esoteric < 1361661201 940977 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-74-117.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently I met cpressey < 1361661204 468257 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-74-117.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which worries me < 1361661233 450268 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like irl?? < 1361661236 2155 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-74-117.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1361661237 164451 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-74-117.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here < 1361661242 650842 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-74-117.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :MANY YEARS AGO < 1361661245 290497 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-74-117.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :MANLY YEARS AGO < 1361661288 681627 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :one time i was here and zomgmodules was here but i forget it. it's like i was a child in that i dont remember it < 1361661307 234219 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is meeting cpressey like the end of 2001 < 1361661308 836607 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :who is zomgmodules < 1361661314 590556 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :was cpresey really not around when monqy was ever? < 1361661317 749634 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :apart from that time < 1361661382 520840 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-74-117.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :edwardk once said to his disciples "However wonderful an operator is, may be that it is better not to have it at all" < 1361661424 382074 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't sound like edwardk at all < 1361661433 450491 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should do the one where he kills his disciple for no reason < 1361661442 835958 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-74-117.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you meat edwardk on the road, kill him < 1361661458 663884 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that one, the other one < 1361661463 101558 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hope never to meat edwardk on the road < 1361661465 15388 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no problem < 1361661465 676798 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :taneb i think you may have made a typo < 1361661470 411666 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hope never to meat anyone, really < 1361661472 948311 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it changes the meaning of your sentence slightly < 1361661481 394762 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-74-117.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant exactly what I said < 1361661490 656557 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at that point it's a mercy kill < 1361661490 727171 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the road is a pretty kinky place to meat people taneb < 1361661501 857750 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :meating's like roadkill right < 1361661506 240157 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-74-117.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, less kinkier than, eg, the train station < 1361661508 248123 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you run over a person and then they're meat < 1361661519 301093 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They were meat before you ran them over too. < 1361661521 297329 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's go with: yes < 1361661523 161385 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I was referring to fucking. < 1361661526 835149 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-74-117.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy, no, meating is when you throw hamsteaks at people < 1361661532 327243 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: :☺) < 1361661542 90300 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-74-117.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy, that is hideous < 1361661678 167 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i met edwardk on the road < 1361661682 680467 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i never meated him < 1361661693 464421 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds dangerous < 1361661696 300033 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is lens? everyday programming is lens. can it be studied? if you try to study, you will be far away from it. if i do not study, how can i know it is for ruby ninjas with ten years of experience? lens does not belong to the typed world, nor does it belong to the untyped world. typing is a delusion and lack of typing is senseless. if you want to reach the true lens, place yourself in the same freedom as fortran. you name it either elegant o < 1361661720 314908 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: /script load splitlong.pl < 1361661727 462773 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1361661736 399421 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i liked the cutting off < 1361661746 350027 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i figured that would cut off but i don't care because it's dumb < 1361661769 952091 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what came after < 1361661781 226713 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: my money is on an r < 1361661787 973455 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you want to reach the true lens, place yourself in the same freedom as fortran. you name it either elegant or not-elegant. < 1361661844 426460 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway I couldn't find it so you got that instead. < 1361661848 419377 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just imagine at some point a monk dies. < 1361661912 202996 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :silly talk, monks don't die < 1361661939 71979 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they just decompose < 1361661951 604414 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like functional languages < 1361661989 395954 :Mathnerd314!~quassel@palevsky-223-221.rh.uchicago.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1361662079 995976 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-74-117.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Remember Miranda < 1361662095 18852 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-74-117.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :copyright whoever owns Miranda < 1361662116 753427 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll never forget her < 1361662129 36807 :Mathnerd314!~quassel@palevsky-223-221.rh.uchicago.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1361662175 130021 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric : laziest girl I ever knew < 1361662555 756725 :impomatic!~digital_w@146.90.165.144 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION has a book about Miranda :-)
< 1361662579 123075 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/math/comments/193r5r/why_infinity_is_stupid/ < 1361662580 937781 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg < 1361662585 660499 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this will be fun < 1361662614 954051 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's quite unlikely < 1361662640 746652 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Out side of human perception it is impossible. I had to do a paper on it ..." < 1361662640 935120 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :If a quantum is the smallest something can get and we have this law about not making new ones if you we're to measure the universe in quanta wouldn't the smallest number that can exist be set by Planck constant and the largest by the total of quanta and we would have a physical cap to all numbers. < 1361662666 588056 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you post that? < 1361662685 617394 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow there are serious replies < 1361662697 756313 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: somehow I doubt that < 1361662703 305661 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or well, one serious reply < 1361662766 212812 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-74-117.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I get annoyed sometimes because nobody else rhymes finite and infinite < 1361662792 254040 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-74-117.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then they make fun of me < 1361662807 229085 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which way do you rhyme it? < 1361662841 31942 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-74-117.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Both rhyme with "in it" < 1361662859 892073 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, and another serious reply (mine) < 1361662876 192416 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yours wasn't there when i looked < 1361662881 578654 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just posted it < 1361662882 94759 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this person is a lost cause < 1361662884 259378 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i didn't mean that as a "hm there should be more serious replies" < 1361662913 260895 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think they're a lost cause yet, their young and trying to understand < 1361662922 471825 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I posted here cause its math it has numbers but ill delete if its out of place." also i think this poster is like fourteen probably < 1361662923 664073 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*they're < 1361662945 219681 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also also i have a horrible feeling that i should get into an argument with you about the True Nature of mathematical reality < 1361662958 160925 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1361662961 128728 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want arguments < 1361662977 512841 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: that's fairly normal I think, think of e.g. excel and excellent < 1361662979 39434 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Do Roman numerals end or is there a point where they run out of new letters and just keep adding the largest numeral to its self?" good poster < 1361663059 808561 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-166-9.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's the bar you can add to some numerals to turn them into thousands or something I think? < 1361663068 48781 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-166-9.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :But overall I believe they run out at some point < 1361663094 171993 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/AdviceAnimals/comments/17ya8x/but_seriously/c8a313e help i can't stop < 1361663110 257074 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thy actually do make sense when you see them as a landmark system < 1361663129 962237 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-166-9.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not like the romans really needed things like a billion < 1361663150 775615 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, beautiful < 1361663152 887843 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: um what if they wanted a list of numbers that don't exist < 1361663154 453762 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361663165 433798 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: perfect comment < 1361663169 177094 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_economy < 1361663171 936290 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-166-9.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well then they invented new numbers! < 1361663187 389116 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-166-9.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Archimedes did a special number system for very large numbers? < 1361663205 310493 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Their economy was in the billion-sesterce range. < 1361663205 608718 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, for the sand reckoner. < 1361663214 578378 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-166-9.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover : But < 1361663220 478087 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :largest number is busy beaver n < 1361663223 73490 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-166-9.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did any individual in particular need ONE BILLION < 1361663240 760531 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the greeks had a billion moneys? < 1361663245 490512 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just kinda assumed they had like 100 < 1361663253 792852 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it was a toy model civilisation like you'd buy in a box < 1361663257 689974 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i shudder to consider how long division works with roman numerals < 1361663258 254668 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-166-9.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah, the greeks are only poor nowadays! < 1361663259 660947 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :simplified down so you can learn about it in history class < 1361663270 74504 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1361663271 832504 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was the romans < 1361663274 782809 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well same thing < 1361663281 399441 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah, well they might well have wanted to know how much money everyone was making... < 1361663283 299242 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The romans are also simplified down, they were just also on fire more often. < 1361663300 185546 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-166-9.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe! < 1361663339 63331 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-166-9.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess maybe there was some bureaucrat who had to estimate the Empire's GDP at some point < 1361663343 886915 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-166-9.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure if that was the case < 1361663539 829276 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The name sestertius (originally semis-tertius) means "2 ½", the coin's original value in asses" < 1361663638 183046 :augur!~augur@c-68-55-204-212.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1361663890 324524 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: That's one hell of a quote right there! < 1361663904 654397 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-166-9.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that means the GDP was about 50 billion asses! < 1361663924 630390 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a quote < 1361663961 407798 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What you said at 23:48... < 1361663974 299508 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1361663989 642835 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one with the romans and the fire?