< 1361664077 714705 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup! Dunno if this channel HAS a QDB, but still... < 1361664125 992866 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does, but the rules for using it are quite intricate < 1361664135 157869 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-74-117.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? rules < 1361664144 329299 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :rules? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1361664153 120867 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-74-117.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not even HackEgo itself knows the rules < 1361664159 312316 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? qdbformat < 1361664162 519641 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :qdbformat is: message; * nick action; two spaces between messages; all elisions marked with [...] other than irrelevant intervening messages; for messages separated by elision, one space on each side, not two < 1361664165 114804 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i still have no idea why it's necessary < 1361664180 322788 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry let's make that "necessary" < 1361664340 201285 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hi < 1361664343 994600 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1361664359 794543 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi nooodl_ < 1361664366 839787 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1361664374 120543 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-74-117.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1361664432 735799 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hoogle lookup < 1361664432 889877 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo 127.0.0.1 reddit.com | sudo tee -a /etc/hosts < 1361664433 147516 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prelude lookup :: Eq a => a -> [(a, b)] -> Maybe b < 1361664433 186550 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Data.List lookup :: Eq a => a -> [(a, b)] -> Maybe b < 1361664433 200961 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Data.HashTable lookup :: HashTable key val -> key -> IO (Maybe val) < 1361664460 143242 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ? < 1361664461 747592 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​? is wisdom < 1361664467 506704 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: but then i'll miss out on um < 1361664471 929670 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/3rd of /r/haskell! < 1361664473 570549 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1361664474 823056 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wisdom < 1361664476 143290 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom is always factually accurate, except for this entry < 1361664490 179034 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? monqy < 1361664491 796238 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The friendship monqy is an ancient Chinese mystery; ask itidus21 for details. < 1361664509 401844 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, what happened to itidus? < 1361664519 514099 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? itidus21 < 1361664521 236915 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21 just made some instant coffee. < 1361664521 628356 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? itidus20 < 1361664523 355126 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20's entry has been censored. < 1361664526 112231 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn wisdom is always factually accurate, except for this entry, and uh that other one? it started with like, an ø? < 1361664526 367683 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip < 1361664530 220200 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1361664601 408321 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus might have gone crazy and moved to finland < 1361664627 544094 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :or moved in finland if he was already there < 1361664840 946926 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo wisdom/ø* < 1361664842 611866 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/ø < 1361664856 363156 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ø < 1361664858 135531 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ø is not going anywhere < 1361664883 139884 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what have i done.............. < 1361664897 297729 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is ø going somewhere then < 1361664911 312605 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oe < 1361664911 349831 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo wisdom/ø* < 1361664912 645213 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/ø < 1361664912 953928 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oe? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1361664927 457614 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ¯\(°_o)/ < 1361664929 80232 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​¯\(°_o)/? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1361664934 778852 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's deep < 1361664941 30606 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :though you missed a macron < 1361664948 977490 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn < 1361664964 808779 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1361664966 392055 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​¯\(°_o)/¯? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1361664991 19928 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "¯\(°_o)/¯? ¯\(°_o)/¯" > wisdom/¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1361664992 806658 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: -c: line 0: syntax error near unexpected token `)' \ bash: -c: line 0: `echo "¯\(°_o)/¯? ¯\(°_o)/¯" > wisdom/¯\(°_o)/¯' < 1361664999 453373 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fucking hell < 1361665032 668572 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hint: " are evil, use ' < 1361665056 56293 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(unless you actually _need_ the evil) < 1361665112 553084 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo '¯\(°_o)/¯? ¯\(°_o)/¯' > wisdom/¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1361665114 462058 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: -c: line 0: syntax error near unexpected token `)' \ bash: -c: line 0: `echo '¯\(°_o)/¯? ¯\(°_o)/¯' > wisdom/¯\(°_o)/¯' < 1361665122 9423 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :see < 1361665127 811141 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash is impossible < 1361665156 42580 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, _no_ quotes are also evil hth < 1361665173 700454 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have an idea < 1361665181 765744 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION doesn't actually disagree, mind you
< 1361665198 58764 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo '\¯\\\(\°\_\o\)\/\¯\?\ \¯\\\(\°\_\o\)\/\¯' > wisdom/\¯\\\(\°\_\o\)\/\¯ < 1361665199 979654 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: wisdom/¯\(°_o)/¯: No such file or directory < 1361665216 367420 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1361665232 158009 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good idea < 1361665324 9967 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you really need to escape "o"? < 1361665335 435450 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo '\\\¯\\\\\\\(\\\°\\\_\\\o\\\)\\\/\\\¯\\\?\\\ \\\¯\\\\\\\(\\\°\\\_\\\o\\\)\\\/\\\¯' > wisdom/?? < 1361665337 320557 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: wisdom/??: ambiguous redirect < 1361665343 865461 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :impossible < 1361665351 429436 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo '\\\¯\\\\\\\(\\\°\\\_\\\o\\\)\\\/\\\¯\\\?\\\ \\\¯\\\\\\\(\\\°\\\_\\\o\\\)\\\/\\\¯' > wisdom/\?\? < 1361665355 179637 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1361665357 592550 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there < 1361665359 809885 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ?? < 1361665362 170784 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​\\\¯\\\\\\\(\\\°\\\_\\\o\\\)\\\/\\\¯\\\?\\\ \\\¯\\\\\\\(\\\°\\\_\\\o\\\)\\\/\\\¯ < 1361665366 30712 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks bike < 1361665366 291373 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that went well < 1361665366 397685 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy < 1361665378 856264 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the very best result possible < 1361665381 612613 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1361665505 318884 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1361665536 533899 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1361665634 285561 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wisdom < 1361665636 5584 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom is always factually accurate, except for this entry, and uh that other one? it started with like, an ø? < 1361665656 876430 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ? < 1361665658 504156 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ ?? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1361665674 287347 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ?? < 1361665675 928267 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​\\\¯\\\\\\\(\\\°\\\_\\\o\\\)\\\/\\\¯\\\?\\\ \\\¯\\\\\\\(\\\°\\\_\\\o\\\)\\\/\\\¯ < 1361665681 952865 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ??? < 1361665683 742732 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​???? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1361665715 500538 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike: what were you trying to do? < 1361665739 1289 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Waste time inbetween being crushed in a game of Scrabble. < 1361665751 151702 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm watching http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/films/silicon/player/ < 1361665751 681304 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric : ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1361665756 391251 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :about Fairchild Semiconductor and the birth of Sillicon Valley < 1361665759 538727 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1361665761 174550 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​¯\(°_o)/¯? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1361665765 631663 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of the old brochures describes a transistor with "80 milli-microsecond" switching time < 1361665771 997816 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess nanoseconds hadn't been invented yet < 1361665814 122787 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn ¯\(°_o)/¯ `? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1361665815 807623 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/learn: 4: cannot create wisdom/¯\(°_o)/¯: Directory nonexistent \ I knew that. < 1361665863 286246 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh of course < 1361665895 816920 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mkdir 'wisdom/¯\(°_o)'; learn '¯\(°_o)/¯ `? ¯\(°_o)/¯' < 1361665900 204462 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :mkdir: cannot create directory `wisdom/¯\\(°_o)': File exists \ I knew that. < 1361665907 434206 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1361665910 672061 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awesome. < 1361665923 112785 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you not have filenames with forward slashes in them? < 1361665928 805632 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1361665951 173991 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ¯\(°_o) < 1361665952 969080 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: ¯\(°_o): Is a directory < 1361665958 430964 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1361665966 239176 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1361665978 795157 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls ¯\(°_o) < 1361665979 457244 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ¯\(°_o) < 1361665980 282271 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/bin/ls: cannot access ¯\(°_o): No such file or directory \ /bin/ls: cannot access ¯\(°_o): No such file or directory < 1361665981 120747 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: ¯\(°_o): Is a directory < 1361665983 43828 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1361665985 215588 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​¯\(°_o)/¯ `? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1361666007 131367 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh duh < 1361666012 851598 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls wisdom/¯\(°_o) < 1361666013 985823 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​¯ < 1361666014 858373 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea what is happening. < 1361666023 183619 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gonna call this a victory. < 1361666046 45867 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? victory < 1361666047 607510 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn ¯\(°_o)/¯ `? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1361666047 768019 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :victory? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1361666049 402292 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1361666058 489923 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :whee! < 1361666066 891142 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1361666068 798396 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​¯\(°_o)/¯ `? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1361666101 859548 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: the victory of wisdom over you? < 1361666106 45782 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? learn < 1361666107 720396 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :learn? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1361666108 378978 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1361666128 359862 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ` < 1361666129 980053 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1361666155 478004 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :not knowing is the best of states, from which you can only learn more < 1361666178 673916 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :00:32:03 Can you not have filenames with forward slashes in them? < 1361666184 464435 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :consider the ambiguity in a/b/c < 1361666199 368037 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, why not escape them? < 1361666232 91192 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the notion of an escape character does not otherwise exist in filesystems < 1361666247 766056 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't you have null characters? < 1361666255 622308 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :soln. don't insist that everything be represented as a string < 1361666266 884180 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sol.n @ < 1361666268 815973 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think you get Unix philosophy. < 1361666306 736827 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :supporting every possible character sequence as a file name might not have been the goal when this file system thingy was being invented < 1361666313 245666 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :unix syscalls take filenames as strings and not as string-arrays < 1361666352 848435 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :they could use nulls as the path separator and a double-null as a terminator < 1361666371 715291 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, they take bytestrings. < 1361666388 56171 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then you can't have nulls in filenames < 1361666390 231686 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unlike Windows, which takes actual (UTF-16-encoded) character strings. < 1361666459 724992 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :UTF-63 has room for extra data to signal end-of-path and path separators < 1361666485 674225 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think in a capability-based system, you wouldn't have file paths as a kernel-level concept < 1361666493 654548 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Only if they're 3-character-aligned. < 1361666497 770463 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you would open /, read usr out of it, read bin out of that, etc < 1361666515 732513 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i don't really know < 1361666517 970961 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: no, most filesystems reject NUL too < 1361666519 252501 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well most < 1361666521 220790 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think all unix ones < 1361666531 242191 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :generally you can't use / or NUL but anythiing else goes < 1361666542 994605 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmonqy has it right < 1361666550 321231 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think using byte strings (or length/data pairs) is good enough, although using open the root and then usr from that and so on seems good too < 1361666563 864824 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*monqy < 1361666575 675213 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmonqy pinged me too < 1361666630 511799 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe the solution is to abandon hierarchical filesystems < 1361666635 569687 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we can use semantic tagging like in the future < 1361666730 594111 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: you're still behind @ < 1361666748 239948 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck @ < 1361666784 133780 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1361666784 862364 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck you < 1361666818 588304 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck fuck you < 1361666845 59552 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck you < 1361666863 205271 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? fuck < 1361666865 305306 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1361666882 873045 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, love love love < 1361666883 900772 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: not /really/, but i really have to be commands, and bind it to one list, because there's really no single day the stats ' start from', < 1361666895 951269 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: fuck < 1361666896 882917 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: uml doesn't do that), it slows down the code when that's possible for you. as optbot instructed, we will know :d) < 1361666947 342039 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1361666947 836838 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc* iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1361667328 707146 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, i am thinking of amending the rules of continuous chess so the delta in the centre of mass in a move has to be the vector of a legal chess move divided by the measure of the piece being moved < 1361667331 298345 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thoughts? < 1361667369 670125 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the pieces don't vary in size why complicate it? < 1361667370 374652 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :er how do you change the measure of a piece < 1361667395 278998 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :capture < 1361667417 218559 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i recently amended the rules so all the pawn is in one big piece < 1361667436 532642 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: that sounds like the change will make it more boring < 1361667447 731649 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1361667453 544818 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my worry was that it'd make it too interesting < 1361667473 49514 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a delicate balance, how boring to make it < 1361667499 111449 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: well it is a restriction < 1361667504 698761 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it's not < 1361667521 486094 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the measure of a piece can only decrease < 1361667572 940116 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmmmmm < 1361667594 609549 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: by restriction I just meant that the number of moves decreases < 1361667599 370131 :augur!~augur@c-68-55-204-212.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1361667612 919270 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and since the game already seems to have no obvious strategy with the incredibly free number of moves it seems like it'd only decrease the interest < 1361667617 850143 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com TOPIC #esoteric :80 milli-microseconds to freedom | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1361667626 222932 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think there's a problem of empiricism here < 1361667631 196228 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :again, it doesn't (also the amount of moves is, like, some large beth number) < 1361667633 685471 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :namely: i'm not convinced that this game has ever been played < 1361667645 359013 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it seems a bit premature to talk about making it more boring < 1361667664 108964 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it still exists as a platonic game which could conceivably be played!! < 1361667705 665641 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I think we played it once < 1361667706 970553 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if we played a game... right now < 1361667712 553832 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it got too confusing < 1361667722 377477 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: by decrease I merely mean it makes existing moves valid < 1361667723 51922 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :who would have thought < 1361667725 286332 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1361667726 555770 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: by decrease I merely mean it makes existing moves invalid < 1361667729 67398 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that the actual cardinality changes < 1361667734 626714 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, well, ok < 1361667750 441861 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not in a particularly limiting sense < 1361667755 19830 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously continuous chess chess should be invented < 1361667765 683120 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moves are bijections between sets of rules for continuous chess < 1361667766 181188 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just means pieces have to move further as they get captured < 1361667810 750470 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: ok but continuous continuous chess chess < 1361667814 916193 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like continuous chess chess, but continuous < 1361667828 554818 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: perhaps we should step back and invent, say, continuous checkers < 1361667831 642271 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then figure that out first < 1361667837 646266 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh fuck < 1361667845 846250 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't even want to think about continuous checkers < 1361667847 466807 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can we tie this into surreals somehow < 1361667863 153059 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or ordinals at least < 1361667884 578750 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the chess variant corresponding to 0# < 1361667918 366342 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, also it's draughts you americanised piece of shit! < 1361667924 202268 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shut up ph < 1361667928 468025 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: ok how about continuous go < 1361667938 774505 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :go is PRACTICALLY continuous anyway < 1361667941 796410 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh I've actually seen continuous go before. < 1361667963 811291 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about continous reversi/othello < 1361667964 661811 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is thus boring < 1361667976 820771 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :we are the leading exporter of board games only mathematicians can play < 1361667980 252691 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or continouous go fish < 1361667981 483331 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that can't actually be played on a board < 1361667985 245690 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha continuous go fish < 1361667990 624177 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what would a continuous card game even mean < 1361667997 89286 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is continuous ___ about < 1361668005 85040 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a joke gone way too far < 1361668005 212650 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl_: we invented this game called continuous chess once < 1361668006 513242 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well mainly ph < 1361668007 319959 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aka #esoteric < 1361668010 979172 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it kinda spiralled out from there < 1361668035 655841 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : what would a continuous card game even mean < 1361668041 762147 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the... cards can be split up? < 1361668044 617273 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1361668045 846484 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1361668052 521266 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.chessvariants.org/other.dir/continuouschess.html ?? < 1361668052 650329 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think you broke ph monqy < 1361668055 769889 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does continuous anything work? < 1361668057 247876 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, card games are like, fundamentally based on combinatorics. < 1361668061 421385 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously the deck is treated as a cuboid < 1361668065 984933 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you could do soemthing with analytic combinatorics? < 1361668066 728070 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love how nooodl_ googles things we talk about in here and expects useful results < 1361668070 947249 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :go fish with power series < 1361668086 588044 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :chessvariants.org is a wiki-ish thing... < 1361668089 215655 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl_, http://sprunge.us/ZDHO < 1361668089 838130 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does go fish form a field < 1361668091 644789 :augur!~augur@c-68-55-204-212.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1361668097 243339 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is basically a super wimpy version of continuous chess < 1361668116 530948 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I like "called piece" < 1361668117 989901 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it a mass noun < 1361668122 384060 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1361668124 529824 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1361668132 216636 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :piece has always been a mass noun < 1361668138 201413 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :piece of eight < 1361668149 826333 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :piece as a mass noun makes sense here, and it wouldn't make sense otherwise < 1361668152 403485 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i support this decision < 1361668174 186199 :augur!~augur@c-68-55-204-212.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1361668231 324729 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :admittedly i'm a bit inconsistent with what to call each batch of piece < 1361668247 35528 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1361668306 750282 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are there 18 disjoint subsets? < 1361668307 983678 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's like you can call a variety of cheese "a cheese" < 1361668320 447587 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: 9 per player; pawns are one batch < 1361668342 583410 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :IMO pawns should be separate piece!!! very important < 1361668347 805686 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, the pawns ... but the knights and rooks have one each? < 1361668363 856267 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway i stopped understanding this at "bijective, measure-preserving" < 1361668371 997235 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Or a variety of maths "a math"? < 1361668376 598730 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yes < 1361668397 896305 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl_: basically "the same size" < 1361668399 120596 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you do that thing where pawns can get transforme into other piece < 1361668405 514466 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or "preserves size" i guess < 1361668419 68390 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl_: well bijective is pretty simple at least < 1361668422 44187 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just that math makes size/measure hard because this is math so it has to be hard and weird < 1361668428 501686 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :measure preserving is also easy < 1361668434 680994 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not quite as easy as bijective < 1361668451 964642 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :for instance the bijective part doesn't really involve the reals < 1361668454 590061 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i'm more sure it exists < 1361668467 259164 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the reals "totally" exist < 1361668473 630129 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if i want to play chess with vitali sets monqy < 1361668475 377614 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what then < 1361668484 74673 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: can you prove it < 1361668492 280425 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's probably all pretty simple but i'm kinda dumb. < 1361668495 753956 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: imo you shouldn't do that < 1361668499 800515 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll accept that the computable ones exist, conditional on the naturals existing! < 1361668516 976981 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha, ha, constructivism < 1361668519 593425 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :talking about math "existing" in real life is dumb < 1361668527 880961 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :philosophy is dumb < 1361668532 102036 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ur dumb < 1361668534 338379 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1361668554 844244 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :does the banach-tarski theorem apply to batches of piece? < 1361668557 389843 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe if i knew what kind of function this is... what's its "type signature" < 1361668600 74206 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also: maybe if i saw an example game of continuous chess (has anyone played it?) < 1361668608 886072 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :[0,8]^2 -> [0,8]^2 < 1361668615 918711 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :er well < 1361668624 713368 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i'll let Phantom_Hoover explain < 1361668635 327845 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl_: ps its basically impossible for humans to play < 1361668666 278571 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: of course not, it requires 3 dimensions < 1361668706 433555 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it basically impossible for humans to make valid moves, or just really hard in terms of strategy < 1361668711 923747 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : how do you do that thing where pawns can get transforme into other piece < 1361668728 692423 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :any pawn that gets close to the opposite rank gets promoted, i guess < 1361668751 233017 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361668756 44105 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does the castling exist < 1361668761 575876 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahahaha no < 1361668766 231525 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about en passant < 1361668767 857699 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :please add < 1361668768 179239 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :en passant? < 1361668769 801542 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :piece of cake < 1361668771 739733 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :en passant < 1361668773 349605 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl_, that definition is excessively mathematical btw < 1361668775 167548 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1361668775 782913 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: no, they're measurable sets < 1361668777 220105 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg elliott let's be friends forever < 1361668780 596452 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523 < 1361668797 453525 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it basically impossible for humans to make valid moves <-- now you're getting it. < 1361668800 764718 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1361668811 35676 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the gist of it is that at the start of the game each piece is a 1x1 square of stuff, henceforth called 'piece' < 1361668816 74496 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, Linux: fast enough at startup that you can have the entire computer lock up, shut it down with alt-sysrq-reisuo, load it up again, and /still/ connect to IRC before you ping out < 1361668852 789325 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :all the bijective and measure-preserving stuff basically just means that you can only rearrange your piece, you can't shrink or expand it < 1361668882 853668 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: istr this has happened to you before < 1361668892 976318 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: last time it was just X that crashed < 1361668904 223439 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1361668921 849002 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and when you rearrange it, its centre of gravity has to make a legal chess move < 1361668933 40867 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems it was caused by a hung GPU again, just X crashed in a different way this time < 1361668934 537217 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1361668949 853954 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you capture enemy piece by moving yours onto it < 1361668966 349315 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl_: it's easy to make valid moves < 1361668968 132029 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what are you doing to your poor GPUs < 1361668971 533525 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's difficult to figure out what's going on afterwards < 1361668981 624992 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: probably overheating them by forgetting to bang on the case to start the fan < 1361668982 574828 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially win conditions < 1361668989 455023 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :since check and checkmate are like < 1361668991 737103 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moving pawns sounds fun < 1361668995 736169 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :based on the existence of a function with certain properties < 1361669002 570831 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ic < 1361669005 616577 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wow, i hadn't even thought about that < 1361669024 898721 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well Phantom_Hoover did leave a little note saying they're kind of undecidable in the rules < 1361669066 333243 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Good night < 1361669071 385751 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if you just change the win condition into "capture the other guy's king" and remove check/checkmate < 1361669079 37289 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :boring < 1361669092 870830 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this reminds me of the rule in 4D noughts and crosses < 1361669110 524044 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that says that you don't win unless you notice you have a length 4 line and point the fact out to the other player < 1361669126 812373 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You lost me at "4d noughts and crosses" < 1361669138 795840 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone remember oklopol's n-dimensional tic tac toe < 1361669144 82110 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was fucking mindblowing < 1361669149 851757 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: it's just noughts and crosses played on a 4x4x4x4 grid rather than a 3x3 grid < 1361669155 534008 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1361669157 281252 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :\infty-dimensional < 1361669158 74801 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: but is it continouous tic tac toe < 1361669159 922492 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1361669165 163115 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well \infty-dimensional < 1361669167 591068 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :therefore iso to reals!! < 1361669167 999413 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought you meant boxes and lines because i don't speak british < 1361669184 624086 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: infinity-dimensional seems similar to 4-dimensional, really < 1361669184 785634 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you call tic tac toe < 1361669189 508220 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: except not... < 1361669190 316575 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used to play 4d tick tac toe in middle school < 1361669194 45657 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, what about your stint in cornwall... < 1361669201 895978 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I spoke Cornish. < 1361669203 513449 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: in terms of strategy, I mean < 1361669211 293399 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: yeah, it's a pretty obvious generalization < 1361669215 762194 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and 4x4x4x4 seems like the right size < 1361669220 721812 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why would I be speaking British in Cornwall? < 1361669234 689921 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would you be speaking to the cornish < 1361669239 66836 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember challenging the UK maths team to prove/disprove that a draw was possible < 1361669246 638450 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it is possible to draw, but it's quite hard to find a drawn position) < 1361669275 857576 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I could later bring them up when it was disbelieved that I was in Cornwall. Duh. < 1361669285 86474 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't you even know how tax nonfraudulentoperations work? < 1361669454 373615 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counterexamples_in_Topology < 1361669461 229397 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love that list of names < 1361669494 453128 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Niemytzki. I love you Russian < 1361669514 529970 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :closed infinite broom < 1361669535 32560 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cantor's leaky tent < 1361669546 721031 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ones with someone's name are my favourite < 1361669672 802694 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh i just realised it's going to be at least 2 years before i start doing proper topology < 1361669687 751326 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 years? proper topology? < 1361669698 773837 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, like, formally < 1361669711 677323 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :metric spaces are next year but that barely counts < 1361669744 665991 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wheel without its hub < 1361669749 399519 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if you can actually read that book with no understanding of topology < 1361669751 723830 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i'll do topology next year........ < 1361669755 970276 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what book < 1361669758 44530 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i'll try it and send chris an angry email asking for my money back if i can't < 1361669758 451220 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :categories? < 1361669764 240625 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Counterexamples in Topology as recommended by chris < 1361669766 104440 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1361669769 362580 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and not that chris, the other one < 1361669774 261460 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Long line < 1361669776 393721 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/User:Chris%20Pressey#Esoteric_Reading_List.21 < 1361669777 898467 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not pressey? < 1361669778 908179 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1361669780 496248 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In topology, the long line (or Alexandroff line) is a topological space somewhat similar to the real line, but in a certain way "longer". < 1361669781 650756 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes presssey < 1361669785 403280 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :topology sounds good < 1361669789 982535 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i meant not oel < 1361669793 1297 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : i wonder if you can actually read that book with no understanding of topology < 1361669797 38451 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i doubt it somehow < 1361669799 285676 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i thought pressey before oel!!! < 1361669813 864116 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you do sort of need to know what they're a counterexample to < 1361669816 419897 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ive seen presseys reading list before tho so < 1361669843 825101 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gabriel's horn is comparatively simple but i like it a lot < 1361669844 472702 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but do you remember the comment on counterexamples of topology?? < 1361669859 453207 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also not topological really "but whatever" < 1361669859 622366 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not a counterexample in topology though! < 1361669870 377353 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i remember the comments on gödel escher bach and a new kind of science < 1361669886 408928 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey is the best < 1361669902 512707 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: but not laws of form?? < 1361669923 362819 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : topology sounds good < 1361669925 805152 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the best < 1361669927 886263 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i remembered the laws of form comment but not what book it was for < 1361670103 374396 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Laws of Form just reminds me of that biology book except that it is not that biology book < 1361670121 26233 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's it about again < 1361670137 108018 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_of_Form < 1361670138 992430 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what biology book < 1361670143 725098 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh < 1361670145 274546 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can never remember the title < 1361670149 868689 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's that one with the picture of the fish < 1361670156 284729 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't READ when i'm also trying to SEE THINGS < 1361670166 134406 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is Phantom_Hoover trying to see < 1361670170 633512 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1361670182 78628 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey Fiora you like chess and maths right < 1361670189 859307 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, a bit yeah < 1361670201 893983 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :excellente < 1361670202 748425 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/ZDHO < 1361670209 283080 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :JOIN THE DISCUSSION < 1361670249 664071 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think if there is one thing this channel is good at it is welcoming Fiora < 1361670262 437416 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, bike poked me < 1361670284 667025 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can blame kmc and me < 1361670284 681653 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :was it because of the chess < 1361670284 934640 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those who agree point to LoF as embodying an enigmatic "mathematics of consciousness," its algebraic symbolism capturing an (perhaps even the) implicit root of cognition: the ability to distinguish. < 1361670285 960731 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Fiora < 1361670287 261195 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also Bike I guess? < 1361670293 150920 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION resists the urge to `welcome
< 1361670293 894525 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi elliott < 1361670296 695274 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: what the hell < 1361670306 119722 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :laws of form is great < 1361670308 921357 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should read it < 1361670309 44395 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :LoF argues that the pa (primary algebra) reveals striking connections among logic, Boolean algebra, and arithmetic, and the philosophy of language and mind. < 1361670314 659709 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the hell < 1361670316 412747 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should read it too < 1361670320 483018 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the guy eventually gave up and became a full-on quack < 1361670325 462950 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should see his four-colour theorem proof < 1361670331 882024 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh christ < 1361670339 722051 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«He describes himself as a "mathematician, consulting engineer, psychologist, educational consultant and practitioner, consulting psychotherapist, author, and poet."[1].» < 1361670344 867324 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ive read goedel escher bach and a new kind of maththematics so reading lof would complete The Trifecta < 1361670349 359369 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a renaissance man!! < 1361670353 986198 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: did you actually read a new kind of science < 1361670355 349987 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was it like < 1361670357 718486 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What did you think of new kind of science < 1361670358 375323 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I kinda missed this place a little I guess <.< < 1361670365 160499 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it might actually be on my shelf right now < 1361670366 243231 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like i've heard everybody say it's bad but < 1361670374 636339 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: the shelf of neglect mind you < 1361670401 800775 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeeep here it is < 1361670405 804173 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dusty < 1361670417 617363 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: have you seen that rather famous review of it < 1361670425 664414 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've seen shalizi's < 1361670437 93005 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gosh it's long < 1361670462 14743 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did i read this < 1361670499 486562 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :index/Egg/randomness in fertilization of, 970 < 1361670513 68207 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1361670533 852040 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how much of it is words and how much is pretty pictures of cas < 1361670545 441510 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :did any of you read "i am a strange loop" < 1361670550 498211 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lots of both < 1361670554 48430 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like a dry joyless version of GEB < 1361670570 347757 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :where is the famous laws of form review? < 1361670572 675131 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :theres a lot of pages and in those pages there are a lot of words and a lot of CA pictures < 1361670591 644297 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like "nobody understood my book so i'll spell it out in the clearest possible terms, also my wife is dead and i'm super sad about that" < 1361670599 273009 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: nowhere < 1361670602 859746 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there's a famous ANKOS review < 1361670617 814544 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I''ll take that one instead then < 1361670621 520335 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, maybe that's the reason for the harem < 1361670630 167422 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does he have a harem < 1361670631 377863 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i feel terrible now?) < 1361670638 532443 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I read the beginning of it. < 1361670640 232669 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, yes, of beautiful french women* < 1361670642 712678 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: http://vserver1.cscs.lsa.umich.edu/~crshalizi/reviews/wolfram/ < 1361670645 119746 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: he talked about his wife in le ton beau but it was still pretty good < 1361670657 778288 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yeah that book is about something < 1361670659 318014 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*this information is obtained third-hand from a man who was probably a nutcase < 1361670663 242421 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1361670665 446260 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A Rare Blend of Monster Raving Egomania and Utter Batshit Insanity < 1361670668 54687 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds about right < 1361670673 796863 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: it probably helped that he actually knows shit about language, in an academic context :V < 1361670697 474481 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know anything in an academic context. :-( < 1361670702 382925 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and well that that academic context is old and entrenched < 1361670707 57939 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hofstadter himself claims it was his daughter and her piano teacher or something, but that's a likely story < 1361670718 981670 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wish i had a harem < 1361670730 753688 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not in the "imprisoning women" sense ofc < 1361670739 150041 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would you want to have a bunch of french people around you < 1361670755 47533 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: "No one has figured out how to make general relativity, and with it gravity, work in a CA." < 1361670756 57389 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's funny because french people suck, also they smell bad and are bad at wars < 1361670760 252448 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: imo we have a new project < 1361670776 477553 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: as a british person i feel like we are 'on the same wavelength' < 1361670781 703239 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, no it's because they never came through for us against the english < 1361670789 996215 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :who's us here < 1361670801 725383 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the scots obv. < 1361670818 863088 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i'm sure they'll be right behind you in the 2018 Scottish War of Independence < 1361670832 664599 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how's scottish independence going anyway < 1361670835 425265 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :2018 seems a bit far off for that < 1361670837 561485 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk < 1361670844 727143 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're going to have a referendum < 1361670858 956279 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: will you vote for scottish independence??? < 1361670867 776459 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :one sticking point is, if they leave the UK are they grandfathered into the EU or do they have to re-apply < 1361670878 546809 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well somebody pointed out to me that the english are to blame for david cameron so... < 1361670878 801767 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if the latter, do they have to switch to the euro (as new EU countries mostly do) < 1361670891 696860 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i could see independence being good for scottish politics < 1361670893 299531 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i remember hearing about that < 1361670899 384058 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it seems like it'd be really awful for scotland the nation < 1361670901 869344 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and does that mean they have to float the scottish pound and join ERM < 1361670904 126224 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i heard that they've been using euros anyway? i don't know? < 1361670911 734748 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i seriously doubt it < 1361670922 546468 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like being a country is a big deal!! has scotland come of age yet < 1361670922 594506 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :with EUR on the brink of collapse for a year or more < 1361670929 424138 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the argument largely depends on how creative your accounting is vis-a-vis the cash flow over the border < 1361670936 604462 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :spoiler everything i know about this is from a half-read forum thread < 1361670938 356687 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also UK lost their AAA bond rating, does this mean the chancellor will get sacked < 1361670941 487055 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well they were a country for a while < 1361670951 752992 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you know they tried to colonize panama back in the day? blew my fuckin mind < 1361670955 975429 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha yes < 1361670956 569964 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems like if scotland becoming independent is good for politics there then that also might make politics here worse < 1361670961 370914 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you know, I know nothing < 1361670969 802075 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one attempt at a scottish overseas colony and they picked one of the least hospitable places on earth < 1361670980 474143 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: something about John Darwin < 1361670988 9707 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the point that, to this day, is the single gap in the highway that otherwise stretches from argentina to alaska < 1361671001 303930 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1361671014 307040 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it bankrupted Scotland and forced them to join with England < 1361671024 558959 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that er < 1361671027 33802 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kind of simplistic < 1361671027 559627 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that's the bit i heard of < 1361671032 328058 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there were a lot of things going on around then < 1361671032 726808 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course it's simplistic < 1361671042 840706 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's something i've said about history, therefore it's simplistic < 1361671051 714728 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's still funny < 1361671055 476391 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wp says "was an important factor in weakening their resistance to the Act of Union" < 1361671065 106044 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: least hospitable in which sense < 1361671071 697063 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: kmc doesn't live there < 1361671081 648526 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1361671082 301235 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1361671087 192104 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dari%C3%A9n_Gap < 1361671112 599020 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :full of jungle that wants to kill you < 1361671116 136025 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also colombian narco-terrorists < 1361671137 349905 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably not so much in 1698 < 1361671157 300343 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the world was black-and-white and geometrically challenged in 1698 < 1361671162 482823 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if their photos are anything to go by < 1361671171 702941 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait < 1361671175 422374 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"geometrically challenged"? < 1361671175 585203 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess they had figured art out by 1698 < 1361671181 5208 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, a rectangle deficiency or the like? < 1361671185 652193 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you see those old color photos of paris < 1361671192 262195 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: well have you noticed old enough drawings look like a 5 year old did them < 1361671192 354817 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The Darién Gap had a reported population of 1,700 in 1980." uh damn < 1361671200 4373 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because they hadn't quite figured out, like, perspective until... um < 1361671201 755230 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :when was it Phantom_Hoover < 1361671212 125840 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok apparently the color is fake maybe, though? < 1361671228 318727 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the renaissance? < 1361671229 964402 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :before color cameras were invented < 1361671238 464203 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: sure let's go with that < 1361671238 621859 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :color photos were made by taking black and white photos < 1361671240 894763 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :before the 1600s, for sure < 1361671242 848800 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then painting the color on by hand < 1361671245 932836 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I'd usually go with Dürer < 1361671254 42428 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but maybe it hadn't reached scotland yet < 1361671256 976320 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly because he's fucking awesome but hey < 1361671262 324342 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also, interesting historical note: the video camera was invented well before the video projector was) < 1361671270 455508 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so 1400 was the exact year they figured out how to draw things < 1361671275 302042 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1361671280 857293 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is settled < 1361671281 402446 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first vehicular crossing took 5 months < 1361671283 965428 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(they used to make them into flickbooks instead before that) < 1361671304 130828 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :"averaging 201 m (220 yd) per hour over 136 days." is not exactly swift < 1361671310 678574 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy hell < 1361671369 930761 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: I assume that it tended to go much faster sometimes and much slower most of the time? < 1361671389 450716 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe, the sentence doesn't contain full data < 1361671439 734777 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe they drove half the way, stopped for lunch for 5 months, then drove the rest of it < 1361671458 29910 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"missing, presumed Fed" < 1361671648 214572 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you read about the first automobile crossing of the US < 1361671648 900278 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horatio_Nelson_Jackson#Cross-country_drive < 1361671684 174724 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently the crossing I quoted about was partially done by boat < 1361671724 74609 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :because there's a later "first all-land auto crossing" < 1361671739 799360 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it was partly done by air < 1361671786 26227 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :"taking 741 days to travel 125 miles (201 km).", i.e. about 5 minutes per meter < 1361672284 752403 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Turns out the book I was thinking of was On Growth and Form. < 1361672298 325988 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that it completely different < 1361672315 901745 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but it has "form" in it you see and is sort of about laws < 1361672336 755168 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :form of laws < 1361672341 526840 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :book about laws < 1361672343 524193 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and their structure < 1361672364 132262 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kafka? < 1361672911 160987 :Guest87505!nada@c-71-235-21-83.hsd1.ct.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1361673012 608776 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1361673025 128262 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :another book you need to reed to read! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fabric_of_Reality < 1361673083 129075 :Guest87505!nada@c-71-235-21-83.hsd1.ct.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is it about? < 1361673091 335709 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait wrong one < 1361673092 792883 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Beginning_of_Infinity < 1361673097 361392 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, deutsch < 1361673098 424461 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the fabric of reality < 1361673107 784526 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the beginning of infinity then i guess < 1361673114 142891 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(isn't that just 0) < 1361673125 739035 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the enlightenment, apparently < 1361673130 25615 :Guest87505!nada@c-71-235-21-83.hsd1.ct.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 is not infinity < 1361673157 802238 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's got a mind-blowing insight into aesthetics, cultural creativity and moral philosophy < 1361673161 184 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's in it though < 1361673169 17702 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"To test this Deutsch suggests an AI behavioural evolution program for robot locomotion should be fed random numbers to see if knowledge spontaneously arises without inadvertent contamination from a human programmer's creative input." yeah ok < 1361673187 845250 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: that reminds me of a hacker koan < 1361673197 568465 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :me too < 1361673202 701449 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im trying to google it < 1361673206 469746 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but my browser is a freezin' < 1361673206 639645 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know the one < 1361673211 899870 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :about tic tac toe and preconceptions < 1361673214 942235 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im going to quote it anyway < 1361673219 672855 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because i just got the search in < 1361673219 988606 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1361673220 966339 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so go to hell < 1361673224 262250 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1361673232 195184 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the days when Sussman was a novice, Minsky once came to him as he sat hacking at the PDP-6. < 1361673235 159991 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"What are you doing?", asked Minsky. < 1361673237 696528 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I am training a randomly wired neural net to play Tic-tac-toe", Sussman replied. < 1361673237 845257 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike: where'd you get the qoute < 1361673240 607036 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Why is the net wired randomly?", asked Minsky. < 1361673243 200408 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I do not want it to have any preconceptions of how to play", Sussman said. < 1361673245 630533 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Minsky then shut his eyes. < 1361673248 217835 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Why do you close your eyes?" Sussman asked his teacher. < 1361673250 742133 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"So that the room will be empty." < 1361673253 227790 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :At that moment, Sussman was enlightened. < 1361673255 646833 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1361673257 515999 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: the wikipedia article. < 1361673268 615369 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike: ok I'll read it < 1361673283 770879 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What, he criticizes Diamond < 1361673286 48917 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's pretty random < 1361673294 967572 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in jared? < 1361673303 941722 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1361673319 843147 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean not that i like diamond, it just seems a weird place to criticize him from < 1361673394 808158 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does seem like a odd criticism < 1361673397 350064 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.imediaethics.org/News/149/Jared_diamonds_factual_collapse__.php < 1361673422 158700 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh jared diamond is that guns germs and steel guy < 1361673423 132508 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is he bad < 1361673428 214044 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :all i know is that that book exists < 1361673433 879789 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1361673438 704568 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he makes up facts < 1361673446 125314 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm coming to the conclusion that "never trust someone who posits their hypotheses in a popular science book" is a fairly good maxim < 1361673454 791860 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :absolutley < 1361673467 839313 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although dawkins seems to be doing fine < 1361673469 239431 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it's pretty disliked by people in the field, apparently < 1361673475 878999 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly for the usual popsci reasons < 1361673480 154576 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Arc_Koen < 1361673484 920887 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and environmental determinism isn't really his thing, anyway < 1361673498 618667 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well dawkins is kind of bad < 1361673515 893104 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he is kind of bad but not so much in biology < 1361673527 165302 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1361673533 10930 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that maxim does not apply to dawkins < 1361673540 667356 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually was gene selection actually introduced in The Selfish Gene < 1361673556 80303 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow i searched "elfish gene" by accident and that exists. < 1361673564 240463 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ph's least favourite gene < 1361673566 243030 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's an autobiography about D&D) < 1361673575 295033 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i think it was more a popularisation < 1361673582 874165 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that's what i'm guessin < 1361673584 376892 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it wasn't a scientific theory < 1361673602 131412 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :« Dawkins coined the term "selfish gene" as a way of expressing the gene-centred view of evolution as opposed to the views focused on the organism and the group, popularizing ideas developed during the 1960s by W. D. Hamilton and others.» < 1361673604 407845 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you say that like it's a criticism < 1361673611 844896 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the elfish gene, it makes you slender, graceful, and able to ride shields down stairs and take down oliphaunts with arrows < 1361673620 10478 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but it still only counts as one, no matter how sexy you are) < 1361673623 567723 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good gene < 1361673637 985138 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was like writing a book about your favorite (mathematically correct) interpretation of mechanics < 1361673644 594933 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a view on things, it's still a perfectly valid thing to discuss < 1361673646 10757 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:W_D_Hamilton.jpg hm i think hamilton is actually kind of hot < 1361673647 793250 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*quantum < 1361673656 450675 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I agree < 1361673661 470656 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw jbs haldane was the best < 1361673665 134735 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just putting that out there < 1361673666 875696 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haldane owns < 1361673673 398627 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :on being the right size is just great < 1361673687 736606 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you know he wrote a children's book < 1361673692 604695 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's incredible < 1361673693 74111 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :really? < 1361673699 818657 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: no, the unit of selection has empirical consequences in a way quantum mechanical interpretations don't < 1361673747 555891 :Guest87505!nada@c-71-235-21-83.hsd1.ct.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought that the point was thier might be more then one unit of selection < 1361673763 317756 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are several units of selection < 1361673791 125910 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :some hardly ever get selected at < 1361673795 698280 :Guest87505!nada@c-71-235-21-83.hsd1.ct.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i read the book a long time ago, but that is what i took from it < 1361673860 321038 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dawkins' argument was that there was no mathimatical difference but conceptual clarity < 1361673871 815763 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, it's about, like, this wizard who he's friends with < 1361673877 219279 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they do all sorts of crazy shit < 1361673880 438229 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1361673884 398657 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :who Haldane is friends with? < 1361673889 578112 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not irl obviously < 1361673899 682477 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks for clarifying < 1361673917 664625 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do they go to india to fight imperialism and the bourgeosie < 1361673923 190789 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1361673926 319603 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they do go to india < 1361673932 584199 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they do fight the bourgeousie briefly < 1361673935 293087 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha fuck yes < 1361673964 271949 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not at the same time < 1361674001 347457 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good enough for me! < 1361674107 245532 :Guest87505!nada@c-71-235-21-83.hsd1.ct.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :while i understand that the unit of selection at different levels is a nice conceptual device, woudn't thier interactions have real implications? < 1361674114 948516 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"unit of selection" seems silly to me, really. Like just a handle in which we try to approximate an understanding of what's going on. < 1361674133 730042 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: of couse. < 1361674136 110493 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :course* < 1361674152 151880 :Guest87505!nada@c-71-235-21-83.hsd1.ct.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :all of our understanding is an approximation < 1361674152 629993 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think any evolutionary biologist, including Dawkins, would say it's as simple as genes killing each other < 1361674166 308135 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1361674254 567681 :Guest87505!nada@c-71-235-21-83.hsd1.ct.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is probably to general a statment. sorry < 1361674282 616528 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes i think interactions between "levels" is a thing thats researched a good deal. < 1361674309 407513 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guest87505: approximately all of our understanding is an approximation < 1361674324 555282 :Guest87505!nada@c-71-235-21-83.hsd1.ct.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :better < 1361674360 927520 :Guest87505!nada@c-71-235-21-83.hsd1.ct.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :math and logic is not an approximation < 1361674373 896317 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :babby's first existentialism < 1361674436 798678 :Guest87505!nada@c-71-235-21-83.hsd1.ct.comcast.net PART :#esoteric < 1361674454 352028 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guest87505: to be an approximation there has to be something you are trying to approximate < 1361674471 620804 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :woops he's gone < 1361674472 909323 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think you upset guest Bike < 1361674482 204934 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1361674495 619555 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi i havent been paying attn was this guest any good < 1361674499 790469 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its ok they only /parted < 1361674504 245001 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can /msg them saying sorry < 1361674504 823819 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Sounds to me like Anthony Junior may have stumbled across existentialism." "Fuckin' Internet." < 1361674508 664163 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume it was someone with a different name < 1361674529 280934 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I though I was just talking about statistics < 1361674535 546627 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it wasn't me < 1361674547 508972 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Extended Phenotype is a good book as well < 1361674552 882398 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sort of sequel to Selfish Gene < 1361674555 664964 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :written more for scientists < 1361674558 10953 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: there are all kinds of ~philosophical implications~ behind saying that truth exists etc etc < 1361674558 133018 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool stuff < 1361674658 187153 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike: what is our official philosophy? < 1361674667 521899 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dicks < 1361674726 820050 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah you mean the "8===>" operator < 1361674741 148530 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :8==> for short < 1361674758 802233 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are dicks a monad? < 1361674774 269994 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can bind them hurr hurr < 1361674876 10251 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you noticed how immediate the feedback is on whether people like what you said or not? < 1361674892 945795 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1361674924 945727 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is a flurry of messages and then I say something that kills the conversation < 1361674944 576259 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and nobody wants to touch it < 1361674952 528564 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hehehe) < 1361674952 841465 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :god it's < 1361674954 538065 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's too easy < 1361674962 230504 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which, i guess means it must be at least a monoid < 1361674989 747143 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are magmas easy < 1361675009 115418 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1361675023 744927 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1361675024 981667 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :associativity is kind of important, "imo" < 1361675071 155845 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if we mix monads using cont? < 1361675072 331631 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cont? < 1361675096 270750 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although that might not work so well < 1361675110 759460 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Especially with State, but I need to actually think about it for more than 2 minutes < 1361675143 256885 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1361675156 106804 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :even pointed semigroups aren't easy < 1361675210 881068 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: You can mix monads using adjunctions. < 1361675223 89701 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But they aren't monads in your category. :-( < 1361675262 618298 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bialgebra this has a lot of good scary diagrams < 1361675311 233908 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :those diagrams aren't *that* scary < 1361675319 910442 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :help i'm growing toleranti < 1361675323 226518 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i need something harder < 1361675348 999055 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah those diagrams don't look scary < 1361675400 683676 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, I don't know adjunctions < 1361675420 83032 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://encrypted.google.com/search?q=commutative+diagram&tbm=isch has several scarier diagrams imo < 1361675458 424417 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dang < 1361675468 475984 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one with the circle looks like a goddamn feynman diagram < 1361675477 284022 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun fact they're the same thing as feynman diagrams < 1361675489 587281 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well they're the dual < 1361675494 604460 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :string diagrams are the ones that are the same thing < 1361675504 891411 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1361675510 292625 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't lie to me < 1361675525 815728 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/rosetta.pdf < 1361675620 467663 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun fact 0 = 1 < 1361675628 626440 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh < 1361675637 9364 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : | fact n = n * fact (n - 1) < 1361675683 173026 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1361675690 856311 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a definition of gamma in haskell look like < 1361675701 422239 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: zomg https://upload.wikimedia.org/math/3/f/4/3f426579fc0475ca3edbd849a96542b8.png < 1361675717 64587 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1361675727 695657 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: It's mposition! < 1361675738 524427 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1361675760 265521 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That inequality is about the sides of a triangle, by the way. < 1361675783 146195 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"(3) that the triangle inequality holds, meaning that the length of one leg of a triangle xyz cannot exceed the sum of the lengths of the other two legs:" < 1361675837 705743 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1361675850 621269 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the hell does the triangle inequality have to do with cocococococmpisitinnnnnnncococococococococococo < 1361675859 46296 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://hackage.haskell.org/packages/archive/gamma/0.9.0.2/doc/html/src/Math-Gamma.html#gamma mmmhm < 1361675881 328816 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: well look at the letters < 1361675893 867186 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u328PglVpLU < 1361675897 340200 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yes < 1361675898 592636 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :distance < 1361675929 485008 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Remember the mposition/uncategory/type inequality thing? < 1361675934 787349 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl_: is that z == abs z to see if it's real < 1361675936 847825 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :p b a -> Either (p b x) (p x a) < 1361675951 311551 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That thing? < 1361675953 733534 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1361675976 823207 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :real and positive! < 1361675977 835676 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Compare to d(x, z) ≤ d(x, y) + d(y, z) < 1361676020 93035 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok but is that analogy actually meaningful somehow < 1361676033 507640 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bet it is? < 1361676046 476511 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :math! < 1361676052 2774 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :For one, I was trying to find examples of things that satisfy this sort of thing. < 1361676060 594818 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how that + would work, though. < 1361676073 407587 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It can't be coproduct, not in a poset category, can it? < 1361676173 248442 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's d? I guess it's just some sort of bifunctor? < 1361676484 482595 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl_: well 0 isn't positive < 1361676511 595611 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uuuuuuggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhh < 1361676513 885908 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: im sorry to inform you that nooodl_ is Deadly Wrong about 0 < 1361676529 230259 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's ban "positive" and "negative" < 1361676544 680853 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :And instead use? < 1361676559 784126 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :>0 <0 >=0 <=0 < 1361676564 429345 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doubleplusgood and doubleminusbad? < 1361676572 945528 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those look like ducks < 1361676575 142838 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :≤≥ < 1361676575 205669 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nonnegative, nonpositive < 1361676579 570200 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :And can't be pronounced < 1361676588 328709 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nonnonnegative < 1361676597 340893 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi monqy < 1361676599 769263 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi shachaf < 1361676613 706893 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::☼) < 1361676734 962259 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::♲( < 1361676784 888807 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::⚧¦ < 1361676801 786727 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1361676807 670803 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope? < 1361676825 685595 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Your nose has mutated < 1361676827 728223 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm afraid not < 1361676841 553044 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now it's a hermaphrodite < 1361676853 99706 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1361676862 890342 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamma 0 is already defined before that < 1361676893 169259 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the "z == abs z" check after that really *does* check if it's real and positive < 1361677080 726378 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why not z > 0.0 < 1361677104 450842 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because gamma is defined as a class on an arbitrary type, i assume < 1361677125 862813 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :z > 0 if it's for all Nums < 1361677125 918889 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :all numbers are fictitious < 1361677152 52559 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since complex numbers aren't in Ord anyway I think < 1361677160 500711 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's see, it has (Eq a, Floating a, Factorial a) < 1361677166 285682 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(why is Factorial a class) < 1361677173 970550 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :03:38:24 Because gamma is defined as a class on an arbitrary type, i assume < 1361677179 239421 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike you're great but < 1361677182 176102 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this sentence literally means nothing < 1361677187 667699 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1361677195 576528 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clearly gamma is secretly bottom < 1361677199 266536 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um, it's polymorphic? < 1361677202 12751 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm bad at words. < 1361677207 663668 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And thoughts. < 1361677223 980765 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :me too < 1361677232 964502 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just, it's a typeclass < 1361677250 20362 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can have some instance for BullshitNumberA and another one for BullshitFuckshitFuck < 1361677255 100644 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: are you talking about what constraints you're putting on it < 1361677261 860298 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know what sure < 1361677267 294934 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PART :#esoteric < 1361677278 780852 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361677279 104407 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: gamma is just a class on an arbitrary type < 1361677284 200520 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't let the man push you down < 1361677295 690831 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the man is better at haskell than i am < 1361677308 997642 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :good point < 1361677368 185687 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually what do you need for gamma function < 1361677382 646547 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :logarithmic convexity and multiplication? < 1361677423 698275 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and continuity probably < 1361677436 756604 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :except floats aren't actually continuous < 1361678126 660489 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1361679170 103056 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1361679548 539718 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1361679642 595198 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1361680336 852668 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1361680366 359640 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1361680605 154218 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1361680684 3624 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION forgot how crowded this place got
< 1361680702 925461 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :she says, after almost an hour of inactivity < 1361680729 49021 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Fiora < 1361680743 719873 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :<.< *pokes at bike* < 1361680758 189079 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :'Lo, Fiora. < 1361680976 174057 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like cheese and maths < 1361681034 802320 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheese sounds good right now < 1361681147 243692 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1361681178 549102 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1361681262 636559 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :today i ate some cheese that had a Data Matrix code printed on the rind < 1361681573 527432 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :No cheese puns with Neo ): < 1361681642 111273 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1361681656 476306 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Do you have a scanner to scan Data Matrix code? < 1361681686 924981 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my phone could I guess < 1361681698 637392 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I don't think we got the whole code < 1361681701 604081 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Data Matrix? < 1361681707 232351 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it must have been printed on the wheel before it was sliced up < 1361681719 595634 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my friend peeled apart the rind bfore I noticed < 1361681900 671228 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I'm sorry, there are no available nodes on X-Bit BBS at this moment." I got this error message already for 24 hours. When will they fix it? < 1361682083 449447 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: which math is your favourite < 1361682087 792473 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, I don't work for X-BIt BBS, and I doubt any of us do. < 1361682128 541678 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you see that dcoutts interview where they asked him what his favourite monad was < 1361682190 239171 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: What was the answer? < 1361682200 786696 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think he changed it to Cont at the end. < 1361682203 446525 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can look it up. < 1361682227 282300 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :My favorite monad, well I have to admit I do quite a lot of programming in the IO monad but I don’t think I could say that’s my favorite one. It wouldn’t be really politically correct for me as a Haskell programmer to say IO monad. Tricky, there’s so many. < 1361682243 480922 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, I know what the answer is: the Continuation monad that’s my favorite one, yes, definitely… < 1361682293 746447 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i will say IO monad unashamedly < 1361682326 602466 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You like IO more than Cont?! < 1361682362 781061 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate monad transformers and wonder if Cont secretly holds the key to killing them < 1361682364 142117 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So Cont < 1361682376 182426 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It don't. < 1361682386 581954 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I can implement Cont easily myself, and even if I'm not allowed to make it a Monad, i can do all the same things < 1361682401 97621 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if explicit CPS is good enough for startup rockstars then it's good enough for me < 1361682405 595618 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure. < 1361682411 587431 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus i like to be contrary < 1361682417 379890 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you write in explicit CPS with any monad. < 1361682421 542579 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what do notation is. < 1361682422 938000 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you know my rants about imperative programming in Haskell < 1361682429 331088 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, i'll buy it < 1361682439 292596 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :implicit explicit CPS :) < 1361682459 939599 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo >>= \x -> bar >>= \y -> return (x,y) -- you'd call this explicit CPS? < 1361682469 103926 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> liftM (+) `ap` [1,2,3] `ap` [4,5,6] < 1361682470 711913 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `(->) (a0 -> b0)' < 1361682470 743142 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : with actual typ... < 1361682476 614312 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :do { x <- foo; y <- bar; return (x,y) } -- and this implicit? < 1361682478 193922 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> liftM (+) [1,2,3] `ap` [4,5,6] < 1361682480 169360 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [5,6,7,6,7,8,7,8,9] < 1361682492 558495 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't look very explicit CPSey to me < 1361682518 232875 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t liftM < 1361682519 559015 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monad m => (a1 -> r) -> m a1 -> m r < 1361682533 710487 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, it's the same as fmap, but for monads < 1361682554 384014 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t fmap < 1361682555 647032 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Functor f => (a -> b) -> f a -> f b < 1361682555 746630 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, from the perspective of callbacks etc., you make everything much more standard by: Having each callback take exactly one argument; not taking the callback argument directly, but returning a separate object which accepts it. < 1361682565 739334 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought monads were functors... < 1361682578 660823 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, they should be, but in Haskell they're not < 1361682592 151930 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But this is caleskell, land of the brave. < 1361682605 897132 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even Cale won't stoop that low. < 1361682615 170892 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :as low as making monads functors? < 1361682641 523140 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So instead of read(stdout, len, function(data) { ... }, function(err) { ... }), you have the object "read(stdout, len)", which you can run() with a callback or do other thing with. < 1361682658 213903 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :By making it its own first-class object you get all the benefits of that. < 1361682665 240888 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's still pretty mch explicit CPS. < 1361682705 955351 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I think you usually read from stdin... But who knows!) < 1361682807 544918 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Monads are functors (specifically endofunctors), but when they made Haskell they forgot to specify that. < 1361682831 19401 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Haskell got Monads before it got Functors? < 1361682856 483646 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t ap < 1361682858 282169 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monad m => m (a -> b) -> m a -> m b < 1361682859 390049 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think haskell = stupidskell < 1361682868 717720 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hackskell! < 1361682874 899347 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1361682910 149198 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You see here a scroll labelled HASKEM MUCHE. < 1361683221 842265 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :EH, CUM MEKSAH < 1361683268 517013 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monads are functors and applicatives < 1361683446 114239 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull, theoretically yes, in Haskell, no < 1361683501 337920 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Applicative has WrapMonad < 1361683527 801468 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wronad. Wrong Monad < 1361683547 848220 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :We should have a variation of rhyming slang where you LAY-contract a phrase and then LAY-expand it in a different way. < 1361683594 928004 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haskell more like monadaskell < 1361683598 563929 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because of all the monads you see < 1361683610 774116 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1361683620 405083 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1361683626 310340 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :It didn't have to be this way < 1361683642 25865 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskell started out free from the menace of monads < 1361683729 928812 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskell Episode I: The Phantom Monad < 1361683820 146062 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskell Episode V: Most Ever Monadiest Monad Fucker Fuck < 1361683864 238193 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe the indexed Cont monad does what I seek < 1361683876 355361 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm, hmm < 1361683910 52817 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Indexed Cont... Is that like a right kan extension? < 1361683921 814806 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, I have not the faintest idea < 1361683928 471550 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there monad-based esolangs < 1361683946 158881 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: newtype Ran g h a = Ran { runRan :: forall b. (a -> g b) -> h b } < 1361683957 178830 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: haskell. hth < 1361683963 868885 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :one where >>= and return are the only operators or some shit < 1361683974 107664 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i proposed an esolang named "Haskell" which would have all the properties that Haskell is commonly misunderstood to have < 1361683985 148562 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like what < 1361683989 432929 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> "Haskell" < 1361683990 974331 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "Haskell" < 1361683991 989001 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aw. < 1361683993 27895 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monads used for everything < 1361684003 251678 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :separate types for pure and impure functions < 1361684009 822524 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :auto memoization of functions < 1361684028 498825 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :must have 3 PhDs to write any program (this one might be tricky to implement) < 1361684058 543002 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love phds < 1361684060 378998 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are so easy < 1361684088 440076 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :has anyone in the world ever had three PhDs < 1361684097 439936 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :do honorary phds count < 1361684101 516521 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1361684130 237572 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, maybe they're honorary doctorates but not honorary PhDs. < 1361684147 530793 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_honorary_degrees < 1361684238 147898 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I get a PhD? < 1361684272 819536 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This list of honorary degrees lists all honorary degrees, including honorary doctorates. < 1361684274 228 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should get three, so as to optimize your Haskelling. < 1361684275 775531 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is an incomplete list < 1361684304 162904 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :my doctorate is 3 phds/year < 1361684312 787356 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :my doctoseconderivative is positive, though < 1361684380 110948 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was forced. < 1361684393 470460 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :They all are! < 1361684399 15755 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :At last Bike is beginning to see the light. < 1361684404 886988 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Wikipedia article on "Honorary degree" has a "Practical use" section. < 1361684488 852948 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Honorary Doctor of Divinity??????????? < 1361684526 395285 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: are you a doctor yet < 1361684530 805288 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not yet < 1361684532 953830 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :drdoctormonkey < 1361684537 460017 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-) < 1361684540 778944 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not lupus < 1361684566 107390 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: imo become drdoctormonkey proäctively < 1361684601 925132 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :herr doktor professor monqy < 1361684616 511305 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: So my trip report is going to be LGA->Bronx rather than JFK-> < 1361684628 444619 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1361684646 929315 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought that's what you said in the first place < 1361684651 553713 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it is? < 1361684656 440662 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :For a while I thought it'd be JFK-> < 1361684665 856547 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cause i said you should take the M60 and then $train < 1361684695 417052 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's when I was trying to figure out whether to go to LGA < 1361684703 193923 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :JFK -> the void < 1361684714 923490 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :JFK and beyond the infinite < 1361684719 70379 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :My other flight is going to be JFK->SEA, though. < 1361684797 257207 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the best route LGA->~Netherland Ave.? M60+$train? < 1361684840 670932 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that netherland ave 10463 or netherland ave 10471 < 1361684841 372199 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or Q48+M60+...? < 1361684846 541419 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"different apparently" < 1361684853 467262 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :10463 < 1361684858 35179 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would you tak the Q48 first? < 1361684874 882472 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure, that website suggested it. < 1361684881 725812 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is now getting oriented.
< 1361684893 34278 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :google often proposes Comedy Bus Option < 1361684943 504674 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway I would take the M60 to the 1 to 231st St or so < 1361684959 472015 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, maps.google.com and hopstop.com have very different time estimates. < 1361684964 738475 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if i'm not mistaken, the walk from there to Netherland Ave is pretty seriously uphill < 1361684970 605336 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: for the same time? < 1361684998 66645 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, 18:00 on Wednesday. < 1361685027 335209 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the walk from Spuyten Duyvil metro north station is also seriously uphill < 1361685039 514869 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :silly place names: the legacy of the dutch in north america < 1361685072 802768 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :RIP new amsterdam < 1361685083 221789 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously uphill? doesn't soudn very dutch < 1361685130 7622 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, the 1? < 1361685143 569266 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that the closest subway stop? < 1361685182 283234 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can transfer to most of the subway lines from the M60, on 125th St Manhattan < 1361685195 246906 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so just pick the best one for your destination < 1361685249 800683 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Google Maps is suggesting the Hudson train now. < 1361685309 225605 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it costs more and runs less frequently, but ok < 1361685314 81826 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can get that at 125th too right? < 1361685352 918155 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1361685467 134026 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I guess M60->125th is a good first step regardless. < 1361685889 671917 :gatopan!~gatopan@201.170.11.242.dsl.dyn.telnor.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1361685917 292296 :GOMADWarrior!~Regis@186.222.62.175 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1361685938 794392 :gatopan!~gatopan@201.170.11.242.dsl.dyn.telnor.net PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1361686841 540848 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1361687381 602926 :ogrom!~del@143.122.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1361687597 480719 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1361687972 598343 :sirdancealot!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1361688266 309983 :sirdancealot7!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1361689171 569076 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361691562 955096 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1361692517 281178 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361693389 477013 :ogrom!~del@143.122.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1361694093 302282 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-160-140.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1361694938 792602 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1361695068 645344 :ogrom!~del@143.122.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1361695281 972576 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1361696112 138737 :jajaja!~jajaja@cpe-142-136-174-217.socal.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1361696152 896844 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell nooodl_ You can use replicate. I guess. < 1361696152 966517 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1361696155 550991 :jajaja!~jajaja@cpe-142-136-174-217.socal.res.rr.com PART :#esoteric < 1361696184 862519 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell nooodl_ There is the EvalMany function which runs a block n times. < 1361696184 876224 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1361696225 209215 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 0 3CB < 1361696226 91774 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {0} < 1361696243 175452 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq '0'3CB < 1361696243 765767 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : ERROR: Burlesque: (CB) Invalid arguments! < 1361696247 283245 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq '03CB < 1361696247 759262 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : ERROR: Burlesque: (CB) Invalid arguments! < 1361696255 252623 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq "0"3CB < 1361696255 869734 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {"000"} < 1361696269 351964 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq "0"3CB2.* < 1361696269 782923 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {{"000"} {"000"}} < 1361696339 650794 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell nooodl_ If it's ok to have strings then a 3x2 matrix filled with zeroes is "0"3CB2.* < 1361696339 702973 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1361696362 393206 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 0bx3.*2.* < 1361696362 906464 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {{{0} {0} {0}} {{0} {0} {0}}} < 1361696371 935792 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 0bx3.*\[2.* < 1361696372 536496 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {{0 0 0} {0 0 0}} < 1361696405 572715 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell nooodl_ If you need 0 digits as Ints then a 3x2 matrix is 0bx3.*\[2.* which yields {{0 0 0}{0 0 0}} < 1361696405 603347 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1361696443 880011 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :although isn't that actually a 2x3 matrix? < 1361696449 725510 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I always forget which is which. < 1361696686 764930 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 0bx3.*\[3.*1{0 0}D! < 1361696687 392096 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : ERROR: Burlesque: (D!) Invalid arguments! < 1361696693 851959 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 0bx3.*\[3.*{0 0}1D! < 1361696694 427646 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {{1 0 0} {0 0 0} {0 0 0}} < 1361696752 709991 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 0bx3.*\[3.*0 2R@{bx[+1}[m < 1361696753 289214 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : Ain't nobody got time fo' dat! < 1361696760 19624 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 0bx3.*\[3.*0 2r@{bx[+1}[m < 1361696760 431491 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {1 ERROR: Burlesque: ([+) Invalid arguments! {0} 0 1 ERROR: Burlesque: ([+) Inva < 1361696765 544556 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 0bx3.*\[3.*0 2r@{bx\/[+1}[m < 1361696765 945736 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {1 {0 0} 1 {1 1} 1 {2 2}} < 1361696795 109919 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 0bx3.*\[3.*0 2r@{1\/^^bx\/[+}m[ < 1361696795 694911 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {{0 0} 1 {1 1} 1 {2 2} 1} < 1361696809 155469 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 0bx3.*\[3.*0 2r@{1\/^^bx\/[+(D!)}m[e! < 1361696809 683699 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1 < 1361696814 534318 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh come on :( < 1361696818 66307 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 0bx3.*\[3.*0 2r@{1\/^^bx\/[+(D!)}m[ < 1361696818 684753 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {D! {0 0} 1 D! {1 1} 1 D! {2 2} 1} < 1361696830 622115 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 0bx3.*\[3.*0 2r@{(D!)\/1\/^^bx\/[+}m[ < 1361696831 132877 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {{0 0} 1 D! {1 1} 1 D! {2 2} 1 D!} < 1361696834 444121 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 0bx3.*\[3.*0 2r@{(D!)\/1\/^^bx\/[+}m[e! < 1361696835 30743 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {{1 0 0} {0 1 0} {0 0 1}} < 1361696907 807154 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell nooodl_ If you're working with nested blocks d! and D! might be of use < 1361696907 838787 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1361696929 443576 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell nooodl_ 0bx3.*\[3.*0 2r@{(D!)\/1\/^^bx\/[+}m[e! < 1361696929 495114 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1361696943 196498 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok. Enough spam :) < 1361697045 418441 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask nooodl hey mroman just sent nooodl_ a few messages you might want to check them < 1361697045 448977 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1361697079 684885 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask nooooodl hello < 1361697079 738906 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1361697156 460492 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :He should just use one nick instead of hundreds. < 1361697827 883308 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 0 2r@^^z[ < 1361697828 476917 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {{0 0} {1 1} {2 2}} < 1361697846 749027 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's gotta be a better way to generate an identity matrix < 1361697947 513403 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 0 2r@{0bx3.*\/D!}m[ < 1361697948 104949 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {ERROR: Burlesque: (D!) Invalid arguments! 0 {{0} {0} {0}} ERROR: Burlesque: (D! < 1361697961 955098 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 0 2r@{0bx3.*\/1D!}m[ < 1361697962 379777 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {ERROR: Burlesque: (D!) Invalid arguments! 1 0 {{0} {0} {0}} ERROR: Burlesque: ( < 1361697985 22541 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 0 2r@{0bx3.*\/1sa}m[ < 1361697985 481302 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {{{0} 0 {0}} {{0} 1 {0}} {{0} 2 {0}}} < 1361698036 843977 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 0 2r@{0bx3.*1x/sa}m[ < 1361698037 482065 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {{1 {0} {0}} {{0} 1 {0}} {{0} {0} 1}} < 1361698045 51863 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 0 2r@{0bx3.*\[1x/sa}m[ < 1361698045 650753 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {{1 0 0} {0 1 0} {0 0 1}} < 1361698073 307060 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I just need to inject some more code into it < 1361698117 10467 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1361698148 192627 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 3^^0\/?dr@{0bx3.*\[1x/sa}2sa#s < 1361698148 654618 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {{0 1 {0 bx 3 .* \[ 1 x/ sa}} 3} < 1361698273 313798 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :neat. < 1361698333 854164 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1361698949 371802 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-160-140.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how hard it'd be to write a web browser purely in Haskell < 1361699183 43166 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-160-140.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The renderer'd be tricky, but almost everything else already exists < 1361699218 546561 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :there s a web browser in haskell < 1361699226 292433 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not purely < 1361699338 200948 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1361699356 870936 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1361699433 470418 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`plist < 1361699436 854539 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: plist: not found < 1361700388 233524 :HSgeo!~simpleirc@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1361700424 730490 :HSgeo!~simpleirc@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PART #esoteric :"well, this requires me to put a part message. Ok." < 1361700901 83945 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-160-140.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: awwwaaaaaaaaay < 1361701261 190909 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@77.122.91.146 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361702102 335236 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1361702133 788961 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1361703165 223447 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361703281 654807 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1361703395 332670 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi nooodl < 1361703400 480469 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey < 1361703400 511929 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1361703418 627757 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 NICK :nooodl_ < 1361703452 384126 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hooodl_ < 1361703475 148324 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 NICK :nooodl < 1361703499 343559 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell monqy thanks < 1361703499 374417 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1361703516 326741 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :thonqy < 1361703528 74364 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: I sent some messages to nooodl_ < 1361703545 869521 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, monqy sent a message to nooodl telling me so < 1361703551 266866 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1361703554 555940 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :then everything's fine :) < 1361703576 221781 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was working on langton's ant and it looked something like this near the end < 1361703577 52349 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :{1 0} {10 10} 0 {bxcy21.+} 2E! { #R {-1 1} {<-} #s3!!#s5!!d! hd#a if {pd}Z[ #r #s1!! #bn! D! \/#s3!! {++}Z[ \/ x/vv }20E! p^ < 1361703580 734663 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this doesn't work) < 1361703585 356083 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask monqy your services are greatly appreciated < 1361703585 386652 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1361703610 761301 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway stack manipulation in this thing seems... almost impossible < 1361703640 382737 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are #a #b #c the only way to have variables? < 1361703846 189625 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, a burlesque command idea i had while working on this: haskell's "iterate" < 1361703875 187538 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 {2*} It --> {1 2 4 8 16 ...} < 1361705046 396654 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seriously need to stop listening to music when I read < 1361705061 108041 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The songs and the stories get indelibly connected in my mind < 1361705070 860100 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I can't listen to the music without thinking about the story < 1361705107 567449 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is why bad fanfic writers write while listening to music < 1361705298 338077 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: impossible? < 1361705304 79131 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have swap, dup, pop, rotate < 1361705315 372722 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and #a are not variables < 1361705335 407913 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :they just sorta behave like that < 1361705337 314482 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: what bout bopit? < 1361705355 607753 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you retrieve things that have >3 things on top of them in the stack? < 1361705362 509112 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: Also... those "variables" only exist in the current scope < 1361705366 857657 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 5hd#a < 1361705367 444358 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : 5 < 1361705379 786595 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 5hd{1}{#a}m[ < 1361705380 404299 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {ERROR: Can't load non hidden state! Sorry. 1} < 1361705392 336918 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :^- map has no access to #a < 1361705424 818472 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe... < 1361705432 936506 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 1 2 3 4 hdx/ld < 1361705433 96017 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : ERROR: Can't load non hidden state! Sorry. < 1361705438 715559 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: There are a couple of ways to do that < 1361705452 645076 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 1 2 3 4 hdx/ #s < 1361705452 806172 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {1 3 2 } < 1361705454 284355 :jix!~jix@jixco.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1361705464 60452 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :in earlier versions you could pop to a list < 1361705468 137556 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :like < 1361705473 958693 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 1 2 3 4bx < 1361705474 356964 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {4} < 1361705476 615111 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 1 2 3 4bx+] < 1361705477 173436 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : ERROR: Burlesque: (+]) Invalid arguments! < 1361705480 230064 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 1 2 3 4bx\/+] < 1361705480 847182 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {3 4} < 1361705486 566401 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 1 2 3 4bx\/+]\/+] < 1361705487 181409 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {2 3 4} < 1361705496 567320 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then access specific elements in that list < 1361705505 698861 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, now Burlesque has #s and #S (push/pop stack) < 1361705508 968177 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 1 2 3 4#s < 1361705509 364762 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {4 3 2 1} < 1361705510 344787 :jix!~jix@jixco.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1361705527 822603 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can push the whole stack, manipulate it < 1361705553 573607 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :#s #S allows you to do everything with the stack < 1361705566 789410 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 1 2 3 4#s<-#S#s < 1361705567 277891 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {1 2 3 4} < 1361705574 941628 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :^- reverses the stack < 1361705583 492100 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 1 2 3 4#s2di#s#s < 1361705583 994297 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {{ERROR: Burlesque: (e!) Invalid arguments! ERROR: Burlesque: ([+) Invalid argum < 1361705587 387894 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1361705593 817101 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 1 2 3 4#s{2}di#s#s < 1361705594 273800 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {{{4 3 1} 4 3 2 1} {4 3 1} 4 3 2 1} < 1361705599 761330 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 1 2 3 4#s{2}di#S#s < 1361705600 274382 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {4 3 1} < 1361705611 57038 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :^- removes an element from the stack < 1361705615 57695 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(position 2) < 1361705638 514154 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :You essentially have random access to the stack < 1361705655 242916 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can delete elements deep down, you can access elements deep down, you can do everything with it. < 1361705669 368018 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i gues my #s3!! approach wasn't too bad < 1361705688 764394 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :And there's XSwap < 1361705693 521367 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 1 2 3#s < 1361705694 74348 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {3 2 1} < 1361705697 574260 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 1 2 3x/#s < 1361705698 192654 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {1 3 2} < 1361705719 36122 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :which rotates the first three elements < 1361705720 267263 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :!lbsq < 1361705739 478072 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : Lebesque integral not available < 1361705982 838377 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < 1361705992 640233 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a censored bar over a womans bikini on tv < 1361706004 955426 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :like I wouldn't see that all the time during summer but ok. < 1361706026 292904 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :english tv is doing it weird. < 1361706032 149325 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1361706141 692564 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :g'oerjan < 1361706154 739525 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :h'achaf < 1361706302 13660 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i''janachoeraf < 1361706356 397701 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ł'nooga < 1361706384 160474 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : 'ello everybudha < 1361706411 777186 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ü < 1361706437 919382 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :blsqbot: this channel ain't big enough for the two of us < 1361706548 969540 :wareya!~wareya@cpe-67-248-121-45.nycap.res.rr.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1361706581 358980 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i tried to write a minecraft mod in clojure < 1361706584 140580 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :and failed < 1361706592 828110 :wareya!~wareya@cpe-67-248-121-45.nycap.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1361706596 705658 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then i tried the same with Mirah < 1361706645 459445 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :and failed because its compiler is bug ridden piece of crap < 1361706656 592480 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc i wrote a minecraft mod in scala then gave up and used java < 1361706661 494093 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :by minecraft i mean bukkit < 1361706670 908528 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i tried with forge < 1361706687 537536 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : didn't anyone fix this yet. < 1361706739 251041 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically you just build annotated class that initializes the mod and does whatever it likes with minecraft/forge api < 1361706743 234658 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :pack it in jar < 1361706753 250432 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :and FML should load the mod < 1361707100 267214 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :but mirah compiler crashes on imports from forge api and clojure generates weird class files < 1361707117 986304 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I don't know java platform enough to troubleshoot this < 1361707532 8968 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361707926 968461 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you call the category that has all the objects of another category C, but only identity arrows? < 1361707978 720960 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Discrete subcategory? < 1361708183 567713 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, sure < 1361708188 270117 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess there are lots of discrete subcategories. < 1361708203 44433 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So maybe "maximal" or something. < 1361708217 499756 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so equality (as in refl : a = a) in a language Foo is a functor in the maximal discrete subcategory of Foo < 1361708227 983428 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is instead of (a -> b) -> eq x a -> eq x b, you get < 1361708232 471841 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :eq a b -> eq x a -> eq x b < 1361708245 488450 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because every arrow is (a -> a) < 1361708254 606773 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and hence being given hom(A,B) proves A = B < 1361708350 431244 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :An endofunctor? < 1361708353 721617 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1361708363 245758 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eq : MaxDisc(Foo) -> Foo < 1361708370 75516 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1361708371 538123 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you get (a `eq` b) -> (eq x a -> eq x b) < 1361708391 726394 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact every type constructor F admits a functor MaxDisc(Foo) -> Foo < 1361708394 19003 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, sure. < 1361708395 891115 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a `eq` b) -> (F a -> F b) < 1361708404 320660 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's pretty interesting < 1361708427 288838 :SimonRC!~sc@fof.durge.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1361708505 608173 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if F is injective then you get MaxDisc(Foo) -> Foo < 1361708510 960821 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a `eq` b) -> (F a `eq` F b) < 1361708514 901568 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(e.g. doesn't apply to Haskell TFs) < 1361708517 627704 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1361708520 321202 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if F is injective then you get MaxDisc(Foo) -> Foo < 1361708524 198126 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if F is injective then you get MaxDisc(Foo) -> MaxDisc(Foo) < 1361708614 849892 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds reasonable. < 1361708645 690706 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what other "weakened" functors can you get < 1361708652 363429 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. Something(Foo) -> Foo < 1361708658 582106 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :where Somethin only removes stuff < 1361708667 106396 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(forgetful category!!!) < 1361708700 559933 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you get if you forget which arrow is which? < 1361708710 392126 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I.e. you have at most one arrow between objects. < 1361708747 58943 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you pick which arrow? < 1361708753 481679 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just arbitarily? seems like the choice might affect things < 1361708767 991682 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't matter. < 1361708772 396759 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, you mean for the functor back. < 1361708853 287183 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't, but OK < 1361708860 695782 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then what did you mean? < 1361708954 192174 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know < 1361709160 675011 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1361709168 814231 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Client Quit < 1361709180 512450 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1361710292 335859 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: confunctor? < 1361710302 806683 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :cofunctor* < 1361710308 231734 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, wait < 1361710321 338735 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Functors don't even have pure/return/whatever < 1361710332 198952 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1361710337 444631 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is confused
< 1361710373 717390 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your forgetful category < 1361710383 505395 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks like a more general comonad < 1361710447 555649 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you confused because you're trying to understand what FreeFull is saying < 1361710459 981247 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think so < 1361710467 833997 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tend to do that < 1361710548 885296 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1361710634 729912 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: forgetful/free functors are adjoint pairs, which give rise to _both_ a monad and a comonad, in the respective categories. < 1361710728 33116 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you identify all arrows, you get a category equivalent (not quite isomorphic, since there might still be isomorphic non-equal objects) to a partial order. < 1361710733 620686 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ^ < 1361710760 522502 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1361710762 379716 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ^ < 1361710783 461917 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Right. < 1361710794 181639 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: do you have a good name for my thing? < 1361710804 587837 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which one < 1361710807 647981 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google "largest discrete subcategory" < 1361710809 715752 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://planetmath.org/encyclopedia/EmptyFunctor.html < 1361710809 745055 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: PlanetMath < 1361710815 959277 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: same objects as another category, but only identity arrows < 1361710845 940349 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361710867 238839 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not anything official, no < 1361710920 64173 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361710971 339093 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :data Empty a = Empty < 1361710996 435705 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :instance Functor Empty where { fmap f a = a } right? < 1361711009 59818 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait < 1361711016 498880 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably should be f a on the other side too < 1361711029 879022 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :make it fmap f a on both sides < 1361711031 547998 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :just to be safe < 1361711085 847246 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmm, bottommap < 1361711115 595663 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I'm just thinking that fmap bottom should always be bottom < 1361711124 266679 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :That might not be a law though < 1361711125 620308 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-6-64.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1361711125 694687 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-6-64.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1361711125 851858 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1361711170 930578 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1361711215 7470 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361711226 478190 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :f a doesn't type, for one < 1361711239 429495 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t fmap < 1361711239 819621 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nor does a. < 1361711240 753762 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Functor f => (a -> b) -> f a -> f b < 1361711247 186672 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But fmap f a types! < 1361711249 932940 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :∞ < 1361711251 349478 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er. < 1361711253 337383 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :∎ < 1361711261 901695 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: bottom always types < 1361711269 239913 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not true. < 1361711292 417067 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, until a type is assigned to it < 1361711296 853770 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1361711324 810274 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :(let x = x in x) should be able to be put anywhere, right? < 1361711359 494387 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :modulo some edge-cases (rank-n/constraints), sure < 1361711373 241278 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :as long as the whole thing types. < 1361711388 920275 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the whole thing doesn't type, at least the hole thing will type. < 1361711522 262821 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-160-140.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1361711527 3637 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if the hole thing doesn't type? Will the ole thing type? < 1361711628 194169 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what OLE has to do with any of it. < 1361711686 420907 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Haskell used to be a microsoft research project < 1361711692 677636 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :OLE is from microsoft too < 1361711701 880705 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 1 2 3 4 {} c! #s < 1361711702 44140 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {4 4 3 2 1} < 1361711732 313005 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 1 2 3 4 #s ^^ < 1361711732 451295 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {4 3 2 1} < 1361711735 773063 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1361711740 973493 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 1 2 3 4 #s ^^ .+ < 1361711741 135017 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {4 3 2 1 4 3 2 1} < 1361711763 270693 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^ is dup? < 1361711771 205535 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 3 3 ^^ + < 1361711771 396081 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : ERROR: (line 1, column 9): < 1361711772 990349 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 3 3 ^^ .+ < 1361711773 151856 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : 6 < 1361711776 173889 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems so < 1361711815 233733 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-160-140.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1361711854 194658 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: instance Functor Empty where { fmap f a = a `seq` Empty } < 1361711890 419023 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1361711927 298226 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :So evaluate a and return Empty < 1361711946 86847 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ew. < 1361711947 252865 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because a may not be the type of the Empty you want out < 1361711956 862200 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right < 1361711958 360972 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ? < 1361711960 555590 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ok, another possibility < 1361711962 821870 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you hate the Functor laws? < 1361711964 573718 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :And f wouldn't really apply either way < 1361711976 169956 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :instance Functor Empty where { fmap f a = unsafeCoerce a } < 1361711989 706550 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: better? < 1361711992 789556 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1361711993 750064 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Much bettoerjan < 1361712014 307228 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it should be entirely equivalent semantically, i think) < 1361712014 642380 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except you should alpha-reduce it. < 1361712022 311491 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: oh right < 1361712033 960128 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I like the part where you act like unsafeCoerce has semantics. < 1361712049 351257 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :instance Functor Empty where { fmap = const unsafeCoerce } -- perfect? < 1361712123 862140 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i think this is actually one of the listed intended uses of it, changing a phantom type < 1361712132 852883 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe unsafeCoerce (flip const) < 1361712161 428372 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ooh < 1361712205 446982 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: i think we just jumped the shark but i'm not entirely sure where < 1361712227 804560 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :jarked < 1361712292 573553 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hopefully ghc is smart enough to not require unsafeCoerce here < 1361712301 969772 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1361712317 144550 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Probably when we started < 1361712318 358218 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: fmap f a = a clearly doesn't type < 1361712332 236134 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean vs. the seq version < 1361712339 519888 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just fmap f Empty = Empty < 1361712343 143649 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-6-64.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1361712343 174560 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-6-64.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1361712343 189022 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1361712345 351781 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Well... < 1361712354 686423 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :In this case, maybe, but it's not so simple. < 1361712354 701190 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't ruin it. < 1361712357 186267 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well the seq version would allocate a new Empty < 1361712364 13354 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know for recursive stuff it's not so easy < 1361712364 648929 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: No it wouldn't. There's only one Empty. < 1361712392 142399 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: does ghc know that for different types? < 1361712445 315339 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : or just fmap f Empty = Empty <-- oh duh of course :P < 1361712456 507697 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1361712456 990528 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it can't "allocate a new empty" when it's just a constant pointer < 1361712457 154151 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was going to suggest that < 1361712461 61222 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you guys were going wild < 1361712487 561722 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, consider data Blah a b c = Blah a b < 1361712499 381639 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: oh hm right it's a polymorphic constant < 1361712501 191085 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :reblah :: a b x -> a b y; reblah (Blah a b) = Blah a b < 1361712512 764970 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here, GHC will allocate a new Blah. < 1361712540 50679 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Note: Things like this come up in practice.) < 1361712570 353891 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that reblah has an interesting type < 1361712583 220951 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :was about to say < 1361712604 852469 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1361712640 717576 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would've used something like Tagged but then elliott would have pedantically pointed out something about newtypes. < 1361712678 647544 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i'm not sure we're referring to what you are referring to < 1361712688 831443 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I noticed. < 1361712692 423836 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was the "hi". < 1361712698 769604 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1361712700 230949 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1361712700 390244 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought the discussion was done with. < 1361712708 260935 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What, you want me to correct it? Is that what you want, oerjan? < 1361712717 755377 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :reblah :: Blah a b x -> Blah a b y; reblah (Blah a b) = Blah a b < 1361712723 666642 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you feeling happier now? < 1361712735 453236 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :slightly < 1361712737 154350 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION vanishes in a puff of meaningless fury.
< 1361712801 975702 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, oerjan, what do you think of my GHC extension? < 1361712818 266092 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://hackage.haskell.org/trac/ghc/ticket/7633 < 1361712881 144358 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^ is dup. < 1361712886 719952 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1361712896 865300 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: that's so excellent i even remember thinking of something like that myself < 1361712906 797512 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So have I! < 1361712911 928246 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Several times, before I proposed it. < 1361712919 290174 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've wanted it for a long time. < 1361712931 118338 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Is it so excellent you feel like implementing it? < 1361712938 259589 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-6-64.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1361712938 292214 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-6-64.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1361712938 306943 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1361712952 609458 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :very few things are _that_ excellent, shachaf < 1361712977 23470 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1361712980 293781 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i take solace in the fact that there's no way in h* my laptop could compile ghc. < 1361712994 620558 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really? < 1361713005 49039 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Compiling GHC is an old tradition. < 1361713047 269877 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's put it like this: i had to disable the antivirus to get it through compiling lens. < 1361713069 139154 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait < 1361713084 635547 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it may have been cabal itself < 1361713093 820853 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, lens is a virus, so that makes perfect sense. < 1361713104 215398 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then i just did it when compiling lens as well to make things easier. < 1361713313 255132 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-160-140.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1361713435 183984 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1361713435 235622 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1361713442 624930 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no, Vorpal too < 1361713448 398962 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-160-140.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And Taneb! < 1361713452 126341 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-160-140.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe < 1361713461 793367 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: you didn't say "hi". this time, anyway. < 1361713466 887204 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-160-140.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1361713468 341497 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-160-140.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay < 1361713470 626559 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-160-140.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not me < 1361713479 183926 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's good < 1361713485 527927 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric : i take solace in the fact that there's no way in h* my laptop could compile ghc. <-- there are binary distributions? < 1361713487 279554 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that you didn't < 1361713506 939128 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: the context was the idea of me modifying it < 1361713511 425202 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1361713532 500015 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, windows? < 1361713537 598139 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1361713545 437372 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :that explains a bit of it < 1361713556 59417 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :windows XP with very little memory by today's standards < 1361713580 743625 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1361713593 697178 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :do they still provide security fixes for XP? < 1361713598 536281 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1361713605 369975 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird < 1361713623 415716 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :so when are you going to switch from XP? < 1361713706 808212 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno < 1361713787 166352 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-160-140.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if in a few years people will be okay with Windows 8 < 1361713882 146778 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, I think it will become another vista for desktops/laptops but might do okay on tablets < 1361714021 721074 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-160-140.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I SHALL BEAR THAT IN MIND < 1361714023 208275 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-160-140.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1361714029 188242 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-6-64.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1361714029 203342 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-6-64.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1361714029 203448 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1361714094 362596 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1361714638 915667 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1361714695 206978 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1361715234 470784 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I spent like 5 minutes trying to figure out why I couldn't copy a file to a FAT32 partition... It was because it had a : in the file name apparently. < 1361715470 20991 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm currently being amazed by the fact that I can drag a directory from a thunar (xfce file manager) window into a program running under wine and have it work flawlessly < 1361715474 296469 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :wine has come a LONG way since I last used it < 1361715666 204309 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-6-64.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1361715666 217989 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-6-64.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1361715666 218130 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1361715805 988588 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361715817 986688 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1361716123 742765 :ogrom!~del@143.122.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee QUIT :Quit: Left < 1361716832 334727 :impomatic!~digital_w@146.90.165.144 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1361717079 817253 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361719153 907746 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@64.31.59.246 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1361719984 658269 :GOMADWarrior!~Regis@186.222.62.175 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361720120 182945 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-160-140.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1361720745 72875 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A girl is trying to meet me in person so I can fix her computer issue, which boils down to her wanting to use a Windows program on her Mac. < 1361720754 122851 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-137-85.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1361720774 553500 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suggested trying the newer version of the software, which has a Mac version, but she would rather not do that unless she has "someone who knows what they're doing" by her side < 1361720775 131543 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're such a nice guy < 1361720838 920329 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Honestly, I'm almost tempted to think that this is just an excuse to see me or something. But she has a fiancee, and she knows I have a girlfriend. < 1361720853 144616 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you think too much < 1361721310 182275 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1361721522 56247 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1361722062 732410 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361722565 268682 :impomatic!~digital_w@146.90.165.144 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361722636 620790 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork, no it doesn't < 1361722664 123138 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :(sorry if you heard that joke before a hundred times) < 1361722710 927935 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that joke's once been done in a subtle enough way that someone didn't get it < 1361722879 996938 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1361722939 831340 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :What? < 1361722946 2793 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it meant doest his work < 1361724245 314734 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1361724277 108991 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1361724474 92596 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-137-85.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1361724747 258862 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-137-85.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1361724790 254517 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-137-85.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1361724867 92727 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: maybe she wants to have a threesome with you and her fiancee < 1361724903 694674 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-160-140.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So What has a similar theme to I Will Survive < 1361725479 738893 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1361725494 233829 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, eye of the tiger/ < 1361725620 277193 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361727467 596037 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: How are things going? :D < 1361727623 264464 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1361728112 441348 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Barenaked Lades are awesome. < 1361728115 987649 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Ladies < 1361728307 453197 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :barenaked ladles < 1361728448 281221 :Slereah_!x@ANantes-259-1-242-16.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1361728468 248039 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-166-9.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1361728520 314272 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@77.122.91.146 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1361728803 715760 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-160-140.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1361729190 794490 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Home. < 1361729194 458699 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did not have wild sex. < 1361729220 733656 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1361729279 874087 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I manage to have inhibitions somehow even when dead tired. Girl repeatedly says that she owes me, is there anything she can do, etc. etc., and I manage to keep my inappropriate thoughts in my head < 1361729406 756460 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe she < 1361729409 950310 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wasn't talking about sex < 1361729454 362288 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, that seems quite likely, and, as such, it was probably a good thing to keep my thoughts to myself. < 1361729478 117863 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :alright it's burlesque time < 1361729481 866973 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so uh < 1361729481 966076 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is also generally a good life tip < 1361729491 468088 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good job not freaking out some chick?? < 1361729614 332027 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-137-85.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1361729693 568670 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird situation Sgeo_ < 1361729732 445045 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, not.. really? Profoundly computer illiterate girl needs help, I help her, she's grateful? Only thing weird is my mind < 1361729738 579084 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see < 1361729755 94474 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think most men attracted to women have these kinds of thoughts < 1361729779 251922 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least below a certain age < 1361729837 587244 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think though that in the past (not this situation) I may have held inappropriate thoughts back and that was to a detriment? < 1361729842 527640 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems possible, anyway < 1361729865 150585 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that depends on whether they were really 'inappropriate' or not < 1361729879 77495 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :will your girlfriend be upset if you sleep with another woman < 1361729900 24695 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :By "the past" I tend to be thinking of situations before I got together with my gf < 1361729973 256848 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1361729989 106843 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello - to do a taneb < 1361730104 535527 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What just came to mind was the time in 2011 when I was talking to a girl on webcam and she wanted to play a "game" that was just asking each other questions, said I could ask _anything_. And then eventually sexual questions were asked. And I _still_ was convinced that there was no way anything... "interesting" would happen. < 1361730145 624710 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you didn't answer my question but, < 1361730156 312058 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think me trying to bring up discussion of monogamy might constitute trolling < 1361730167 240701 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you talk to girls on webcam, that just sounds wrong sorry < 1361730168 536774 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :2011 was before I got together with my gf < 1361730187 134903 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And my gf would be mad if I slept with another girl. < 1361730200 287970 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume < 1361730258 297303 :md_5!md_5@mcdevs/trusted/md-5 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1361730489 89911 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: why does dupswap exist? < 1361730545 941208 :md_5!md_5@mcdevs/trusted/md-5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361730600 485462 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wubwubwub < 1361730642 946779 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: For completeness obviously. < 1361730709 925040 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :better to have it and not use it than to need it and not have it. < 1361730735 823021 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 25 {^^ ^^ 2 .% { 3 .* 1 .+ } \/ { 2 ./ } \/ ie} {1 != } w! < 1361730735 997853 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : Ain't nobody got time fo' dat! < 1361730741 52040 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1361730743 4783 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :In this case, never ever use it < 1361730747 507557 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 5 {^^ ^^ 2 .% { 3 .* 1 .+ } \/ { 2 ./ } \/ ie} {1 != } w! < 1361730747 719424 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : Ain't nobody got time fo' dat! < 1361730753 311416 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: You got 100 Microseconds < 1361730759 190373 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh :( < 1361730766 815278 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 2 {^^ ^^ 2 .% { 3 .* 1 .+ } \/ { 2 ./ } \/ ie} {1 != } w! < 1361730766 984933 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : Ain't nobody got time fo' dat! < 1361730780 105350 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: division by 2 takes 100 microseconds? < 1361730792 809526 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 10 2 ./ < 1361730793 431294 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : 5 < 1361730797 340187 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :^- no < 1361730807 70149 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, generating the collatz sequence for 2 < 1361730813 885694 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 1 {^^ ^^ 2 .% { 3 .* 1 .+ } \/ { 2 ./ } \/ ie} {1 != } w! < 1361730813 995419 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : Ain't nobody got time fo' dat! < 1361730817 891 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :common < 1361730828 317453 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's no comments, right? < 1361730839 763933 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll have to do something like "hello"vv? < 1361730843 37525 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: Except "this is a comment"vv < 1361730852 236436 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right. < 1361730896 568545 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :or { would this work } vv < 1361730903 946138 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq { would this work } vv < 1361730904 269954 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : ERROR: (line 1, column 8): < 1361730909 36340 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no doesn't of course < 1361730923 945634 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq { li ke th is }vv < 1361730924 94426 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : No output! < 1361730928 897245 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq {wouldthiswork}vv < 1361730929 476122 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : ERROR: (line 1, column 15): < 1361730932 661997 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq {wouldthiswork.}vv < 1361730933 137192 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : No output! < 1361730953 80455 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 2 {0 1}{^^++[+[-^^-]\/}30.*\[e!vv < 1361730953 217251 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : Ain't nobody got time fo' dat! < 1361730955 533627 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :pff < 1361730969 840679 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq {^^ ^^ 2 .% { 3 .* 1 .+ } \/ { 2 ./ } \/ ie} {1 != } < 1361730970 490038 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {1 !=} < 1361730977 943683 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 1 {^^ ^^ 2 .% { 3 .* 1 .+ } \/ { 2 ./ } \/ ie} {1 != } < 1361730978 770134 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {1 !=} < 1361730982 772070 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 4 ^^{\/^^.+\/1.-}{}w!vv < 1361730983 16390 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : 64 < 1361730984 889488 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 1 {^^ ^^ 2 .% { 3 .* 1 .+ } \/ { 2 ./ } \/ ie} {1 != } e! < 1361730985 483171 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1 < 1361730985 790302 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1361730989 116521 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 1 {^^ ^^ 2 .% { 3 .* 1 .+ } \/ { 2 ./ } \/ ie} {1 != } w! < 1361730989 654586 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1 < 1361730999 776875 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 2 {^^ ^^ 2 .% { 3 .* 1 .+ } \/ { 2 ./ } \/ ie} {1 != } w! < 1361731000 338592 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1 < 1361731002 706666 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait, that's ok < 1361731007 860926 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 10 {^^ ^^ 2 .% { 3 .* 1 .+ } \/ { 2 ./ } \/ ie} {1 != } w! < 1361731008 453093 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1 < 1361731013 27617 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :5 {0\/1.-}{1.-}w!vv < 1361731021 600949 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 5 {0\/1.-}{1.-}w!vv < 1361731021 769790 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0 < 1361731027 370881 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: that borke < 1361731031 273022 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :*broke < 1361731037 880853 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :It should output 4 zeroes on the stack < 1361731050 674019 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :blsqbot does not print the whole stack < 1361731053 735549 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :just the top < 1361731141 548919 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1361731151 586734 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok how do I make a string of all stack elements? < 1361731163 392654 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: No. DupSwap is just there because of copy & paste ;) < 1361731170 901377 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: #s < 1361731174 732508 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 1 2 3 4#s < 1361731175 275028 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {4 3 2 1} < 1361731200 67163 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 1 2 3 4#s)Sh < 1361731200 462287 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {"4" "3" "2" "1"} < 1361731204 948939 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 1 2 3 4#s)Shwd < 1361731205 492607 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : "4 3 2 1" < 1361731239 476298 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :great < 1361731251 308406 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 5 {0\/1.-}{1.-}w!vv #s < 1361731251 653369 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {0 0 0 0} < 1361731253 490273 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1361731263 258339 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 100 {0\/1.-}{1.-}w!vv #s < 1361731263 387625 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 < 1361731271 280338 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 1000 {0\/1.-}{1.-}w!vv #s < 1361731271 457680 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : Ain't nobody got time fo' dat! < 1361731279 97417 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 100000000000000 {0\/1.-}{1.-}w!vv #s < 1361731279 266778 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : Ain't nobody got time fo' dat! < 1361731282 112173 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1361731292 47683 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 500 {0\/1.-}{1.-}w!vv #s < 1361731292 164037 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : Ain't nobody got time fo' dat! < 1361731303 701444 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : Ain't nobody got time fo' dat! < 1361731327 465147 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Execution time is limited to 0.1milliseconds < 1361731375 188872 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 < 1361731385 584510 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :make burlesque faster then :p < 1361731389 270113 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes, that currently does not work @privmsg < 1361731396 873426 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 300 {0\/1.-}{1.-}w!vv #s < 1361731397 75105 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 < 1361731399 711496 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :It somehow always prints to the current channel < 1361731440 538943 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq { 0 0 } { 5 6 }ps\[ < 1361731440 716475 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {ERROR: Burlesque: (_+) Invalid arguments!} < 1361731457 431024 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1361731468 13486 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq { 0 0 } { 5 6 }\[ < 1361731468 227238 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {5 6} < 1361731469 812878 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't parse a block < 1361731484 606678 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq { 1 2 3 } { 5 6 }\[ < 1361731484 770816 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {5 6} < 1361731529 238144 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you're looking for _+ < 1361731535 847050 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq {1 2 3}{5 6}_+ < 1361731536 422680 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {1 2 3 5 6} < 1361731538 388572 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suck at burlesque, it's official :( < 1361731571 313496 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq "Hello, world" " ";; < 1361731571 495573 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {"Hello," "world"} < 1361731577 593950 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1361731615 952875 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq "Hello, world" ",";; < 1361731616 125303 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {"Hello" " world"} < 1361731624 487779 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: that's a cool command < 1361731641 239884 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq -5 sn < 1361731641 429524 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : -1 < 1361731648 453641 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's split < 1361731653 677426 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I know < 1361731658 655174 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's nice to have that build in < 1361731660 331257 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a simple split function < 1361731678 904533 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq "Hello, world" "hello";; < 1361731679 75967 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {"Hello, world"} < 1361731691 829206 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :even C++ doesn't have split built-in :p! < 1361731728 834757 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq "What does this do exactly" "w" [S < 1361731729 170677 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : ERROR: Burlesque: ([S) Invalid arguments! < 1361731730 351936 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :strtok? < 1361731737 519795 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not build in < 1361731744 536199 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq "What does this do exactly" 'w' [S < 1361731744 725690 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : ERROR: Burlesque: ([S) Invalid arguments! < 1361731755 87498 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :It says Str a, Char b < 1361731761 607862 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1361731769 227391 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you feed it two chars < 1361731770 34094 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is 'w' not a char < 1361731771 706099 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :a w and a space < 1361731777 251094 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :'w' is not a achr < 1361731779 83161 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :*char < 1361731784 944290 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :'w' is w and a space < 1361731786 821318 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :'w is a w < 1361731791 905212 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq "What does this do exactly" w [S < 1361731792 81180 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : ERROR: (line 1, column 30): < 1361731798 722782 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't get that < 1361731808 69439 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq "www.google.com" 'w [S < 1361731808 258752 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq "What does this do exactly" 'w [S < 1361731808 427988 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : "What does this do exactly" < 1361731808 593433 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : "www.google.com" < 1361731816 682134 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq "www.google.com" 'w S[ < 1361731817 212615 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : ".google.com" < 1361731822 703033 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :blsq "What does this do exactly" 'W [S < 1361731826 808442 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :^- a char is ' followed by something else < 1361731831 741857 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq "What does this do exactly" 'W [S < 1361731831 891392 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : "What does this do exactly" < 1361731842 493030 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :also [S strips on the right side < 1361731849 403898 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1361731851 113533 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :you want to strip on the left side of the string < 1361731859 657896 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq "What does this do exactly WWW" 'W [S < 1361731859 824614 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : "What does this do exactly " < 1361731878 632514 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 0bc5.+bc5.+{2 2}{1 0} {#s^p\/d!^^x/\/ {{-1.*}m[}if g_-1.*_+ #s{1 3 4 0 3 0}si#S n!D!x/x/{++}Z[x/}10E!vvvv^p < 1361731878 818923 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : Ain't nobody got time fo' dat! < 1361731883 557422 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoops < 1361731899 647131 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 5546 46 !~ < 1361731899 816226 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1 < 1361731907 16168 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well. bc5.+bc5.+ {2 2} are the size/start pos, 10E! is the number of generations < 1361731907 382253 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :blsq is nice < 1361731935 78282 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :#s{1 3 4 0 3 0}si#S <- this is nice for stack manipulation :) < 1361731961 86973 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq "hello" "world" z[ < 1361731961 256621 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {{'h 'w} {'e 'o} {'l 'r} {'l 'l} {'o 'd}} < 1361731977 317605 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq "hello" "world" z[ #S < 1361731977 480510 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {'h 'w} < 1361731977 980808 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is {'h 'w} different from "hw", mroman? < 1361732058 580559 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 1 2 3 4 5 #s^p#s < 1361732058 737388 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {1 2 3 4 5 5 4 3 2 1} < 1361732096 61907 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq "hello, world" '. [[ < 1361732096 234622 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : ERROR: Burlesque: ([[) Invalid arguments! < 1361732102 932642 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: Yes. < 1361732107 546170 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq "hello, world" 'h [[ < 1361732107 706290 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : ERROR: Burlesque: ([[) Invalid arguments! < 1361732111 355468 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? < 1361732116 663134 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :"hw" is a string and {'h 'w} is a block containing two characters < 1361732144 359152 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why doesn't this work: !blsq "hello, world" 'h [[ < 1361732147 343076 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq "hello, world" 'h \/ [[ < 1361732147 527312 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : "hhehlhlhoh,h hwhohrhlhd" < 1361732151 700854 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :flip the args < 1361732162 9441 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? it says: < 1361732165 982907 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :"String a, Char b" < 1361732184 351657 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1361732185 656024 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://mroman.ch/burlesque/lref.html says Char a,String b < 1361732188 575995 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[ says Char a, String b < 1361732196 415049 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1361732200 487087 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://mroman.ch/burlesque/cookbook/lref.html < 1361732203 260874 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't < 1361732208 610240 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hu? < 1361732226 270871 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a link to cookbook/lref.html somewhere? < 1361732229 377183 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :because that'd be wrong. < 1361732277 952435 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :in my browser history it appears < 1361732318 944791 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq "does ps give errors?" ps < 1361732319 42474 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {ERROR: (line 1, column 21): < 1361732324 800367 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh it does? < 1361732336 828103 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1361732358 614300 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq "" ps < 1361732358 794915 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {} < 1361732374 51144 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh man. too bad there isn't a "print" command < 1361732390 868688 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's no way to make this print multiple generations without rewriting all of it < 1361732407 505356 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq {5 6 7 5 12 23 456} mp < 1361732407 761373 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : ERROR: Burlesque: (pd) Invalid arguments! < 1361732423 124611 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it relies on #s < 1361732444 11331 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-160-140.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1361732453 7045 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq {5 6 7 5 12 23 456} pd < 1361732453 177789 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : 132148800 < 1361732477 979139 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq "hello Taneb" "^.+$"~= < 1361732478 110516 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1 < 1361732483 118452 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-160-140.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1361732489 908971 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-160-140.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel awful < 1361732498 722190 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :for being matched by a regex? < 1361732510 319738 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: You could run it in a continution or eval < 1361732513 988192 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq "hello Taneb" "Taneb"~= < 1361732514 143060 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1 < 1361732519 555537 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-160-140.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, just in general < 1361732524 418790 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that might work < 1361732526 597914 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, how does c! work < 1361732542 817368 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :c! evals the block on a copy of the current stack < 1361732555 901272 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and pop one element from that after evaluation and returns it < 1361732559 548330 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 5 5 .+ < 1361732560 101432 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : 10 < 1361732561 483720 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's perfect < 1361732567 573127 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 5 5 {.+}c! < 1361732568 413713 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : 10 < 1361732572 78535 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 5 5 {.+}c!#s < 1361732572 677870 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {10 5 5} < 1361732583 605649 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1361732584 350047 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :^- the fives are not destroyed because c! works on a copy < 1361732589 587137 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would've made a lot of this code a lot easier < 1361732607 817765 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well, i'm not going to rewrite it all... yet < 1361732626 153338 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm currently running it for 12000 steps :) < 1361732670 76752 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq "hello taneb, hello mroman" "hello (\w+)" < 1361732670 230950 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : "hello (\\w+)" < 1361732677 579054 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1361732681 660352 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq "hello taneb, hello mroman" "hello (\w+)" =~ < 1361732681 820302 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {"taneb"} < 1361732697 458494 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq "hello taneb, hello mroman" "(hello (\w+))*" =~ < 1361732697 611510 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {"hello taneb" "taneb"} < 1361732714 8949 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codepad.org/nJKmRiJ3 <- output < 1361732723 192538 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq "hello taneb, hello mroman" "(hello (\w+),)*" =~ < 1361732723 362188 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {"hello taneb," "taneb"} < 1361732736 851140 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1361732742 399770 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how would you convert it to a string like < 1361732742 544615 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq "hello taneb, hello mroman" "(hello (\w+)\,\s*)*" =~ < 1361732742 736913 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {"hello taneb, " "taneb"} < 1361732742 751405 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1361732743 947274 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :.#. < 1361732744 873125 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :.## < 1361732745 519081 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :etc < 1361732774 466087 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was stuck on this for a while yesterday, even though my solution itself didn't work yet < 1361732778 119476 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 3 3 #s < 1361732778 282988 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {3 3} < 1361732779 63004 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 1{'.'#}ch < 1361732779 656678 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : '. < 1361732780 196028 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq "hello taneb hello mroman" "(hello (\w+)\s*)*" =~ < 1361732780 328430 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {"hello mroman" "mroman"} < 1361732785 206636 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 0{'.'#}ch < 1361732785 687381 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : '# < 1361732801 66631 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: Map {'.'#}ch over it < 1361732816 227824 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :then i'd put everything into a list < 1361732831 263549 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq { {1 0} {0 1} } { {1 0} {0 1} } mm < 1361732831 453293 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {{1 0} {0 1}} < 1361732837 512247 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Replace p^ with sp < 1361732843 875846 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :burlesque has matrices? < 1361732846 230791 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq {{1 0 0}{0 1 0}}sp < 1361732846 822979 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1 0 0 < 1361732852 649499 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq {{1 0 0}{0 1 0}}SP < 1361732853 267969 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : "1 0 0\n0 1 0" < 1361732860 486654 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have a det command yet? < 1361732872 895146 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :^- SP converts two dimensional blocks to a string < 1361732879 386827 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(sp is SPsh) < 1361732886 311305 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: nope @det < 1361732886 509831 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq { {1 0} {0 1} } { {1 0} {0 1} } {{{'.'#}ch}m[}m[SP < 1361732886 671909 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : ". #\n# ." < 1361732893 981656 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq { {1 0} {0 1} } { {2 2} {2 3} } mm < 1361732894 126566 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {{2 2} {2 3}} < 1361732925 261613 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq {0 0 0 1}{{'#'.}ch}m[ < 1361732925 700394 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {'. '. '. '#} < 1361732930 891174 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq {0 0 0 1}{{'#'.}ch}\m < 1361732931 508438 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : "...#" < 1361732937 138520 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :^- that should do it. < 1361732965 14127 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!! would work too < 1361732981 823537 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq {0 0 0 1}{".#"\/!!}\m < 1361732982 376920 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : "...#" < 1361733006 196297 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: It has transpose and matrix multiplication though < 1361733032 253462 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: conventient element access would be nice < 1361733040 144855 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :*convenient < 1361733047 308246 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :d! < 1361733051 22315 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does that < 1361733071 661193 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, {{{'#'.}ch}\m}m[uN seems to work well < 1361733083 184708 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq "Hello World"wd{1 1}d! < 1361733083 738745 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : 'o < 1361733090 600607 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: ^- < 1361733099 853195 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codepad.org/FeILiAKL < 1361733129 355413 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq { {1 0} {0 1} } 1 d! < 1361733129 526153 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : ERROR: Burlesque: (e!) Invalid arguments! < 1361733144 390820 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :d! is for multi-dimensional < 1361733148 969079 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it requires a list < 1361733153 556565 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :like so?: < 1361733159 376189 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq { {1 0} {0 1} } {1 1} d! < 1361733159 554740 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1 < 1361733161 710266 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :foobar[0][0][1] would be {0 0 1}d! < 1361733163 296187 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh nice < 1361733186 159169 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that allows you to calculate the determinant I guess < 1361733303 210863 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq { {1 0} {0 1} } <- < 1361733303 378911 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {{0 1} {1 0}} < 1361733376 621639 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: Now run it for 12000 steps < 1361733384 332308 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'll take three minutes or so :) < 1361733414 641857 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq { {1 0} {0 1} } ^^ tp mm < 1361733414 804885 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {{1 0} {0 1}} < 1361733418 292 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, it's pretty slow < 1361733466 950567 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq { 'a 'b} 'c im < 1361733467 116455 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : ERROR: Burlesque: (r[) Invalid arguments! < 1361733487 552428 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh blocks < 1361733498 631437 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq { 'a 'b} { 'c } im < 1361733498 955088 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : 'c < 1361733510 866752 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq { 'a 'b} { 'c 'd } im < 1361733511 63272 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : ERROR: Burlesque: (++) Invalid arguments! < 1361733517 495988 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq { 'a} { 'c 'd } im < 1361733517 666873 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : ERROR: Burlesque: (++) Invalid arguments! < 1361734088 568752 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361734361 45775 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p4FDCCFB3.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1361734697 79840 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-168.elisa.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1361734796 632769 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1361735053 534347 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I didn't know GHC used C-- < 1361735069 987751 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's what C-- was for, isn't it < 1361735072 122161 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :just about the only thing which does, isn't it < 1361735090 847538 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1361735099 827126 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the GHC team invented C-- and then failed to get others to use it < 1361735117 317861 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I think it's more correct to say that GHC uses "Cmm" which is a variant of the published documented C-- < 1361735121 23037 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it had been today, perhaps they would have just used LLVM directly < 1361735138 856092 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I think GHC may be the only actively developed tool that can compile any flavor of C-- < 1361735143 198628 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1361735177 106946 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess they are versions of the same idea? < 1361735178 474467 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :C-- and LLVM have different syntactic styles and somewhat different goals, but probably they would have used LLVM today < 1361735211 940218 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :is ghc still using C--? < 1361735214 665675 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1361735221 20919 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :also doesn't ghc have an llvm backend nowdays? < 1361735223 568047 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1361735225 482495 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah this time my laptop updated lens successfully < 1361735235 274748 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it compiles C-- to LLVM < 1361735240 387625 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1361735244 522422 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or "Cmm" to LLVM < 1361735255 913103 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :part of the RTS is written in Cmm < 1361735268 25820 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder why C++ searches fine on google but C-- doesn't work < 1361735275 606600 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if they hardcoded it? < 1361735302 984246 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Either they have hardcoded it or their machine learning has seen ”C++” as a ”word” on enough pages. < 1361735322 717787 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(c minus minus works) < 1361735367 818684 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of the goals of C-- is that, without making garbage collection part of the language, you add the right hooks such that one could develop a garbage collector for C-- < 1361735393 183770 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@77.122.91.146 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361735397 649979 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, develop a GC for language implementations targetting C--, which is independent of the details of those implementations < 1361735404 463802 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and same for other language features like exceptions < 1361735404 520192 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, which sounds like something LLVM allows for too iirc < 1361735408 870572 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know if LLVM has that < 1361735410 983324 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1361735428 117666 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know how realistic this goal is anyway < 1361735442 527326 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good GCs tend to be tuned for the specific language < 1361735450 962172 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1361735467 634086 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. GHC's GC has to deal with a ton of mutation in the form of thunks getting evaluated, but less mutation of arrays than you might have in another language < 1361735500 468258 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I saw some code written directly in C-- before < 1361735500 520042 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, well what about .NET? It is not tuned to a specific language, just to the general byte code, and it doesn't care if that byte code comes from C# or VB.NET < 1361735502 978329 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :For KolibriOS < 1361735503 313271 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :or F# < 1361735532 359022 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: huh < 1361735535 197486 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what do they compile it with < 1361735543 258119 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: yeah, I don't know < 1361735551 202774 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forget < 1361735566 577928 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :night < 1361735588 374261 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.cminusminus.org/ has an interpreter and compiler < 1361735607 619492 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't seem to have been updated since 2008 though < 1361735616 654690 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd guess that the CLR GC is suboptimal for languages that aren't so much like C# or VB < 1361735657 956084 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also F# is not that different from C# operationally, is it? < 1361735685 731421 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hear it's more functional < 1361735736 243524 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not what i meant < 1361735757 448841 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm talking about whether the heap behaves differently at runtime < 1361735768 628004 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would guess that it's not too different < 1361735783 119720 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p4FDCCFB3.dip.t-dialin.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://websvn.kolibrios.org/listing.php?repname=Kolibri+OS&path=%2Fprograms%2Fcmm%2F&#abf1c4e809912c8e0dc9c47ab4528b257 < 1361735901 279539 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1361735944 528970 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1361736121 654398 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: It's all .net underneath < 1361736153 537540 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know < 1361736354 260857 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it all compiles to CLI bytecode, but different languages will produce different patterns of heap access, which makes it difficult to write an efficient garbage collector for all of them at once < 1361736368 595783 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :however I'm speculating that the heap access patterns of C# are a lot closer to F# than, say, Haskell < 1361736389 110410 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i also don't know all that much about GC or how much this is a problem < 1361736572 680677 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :reminds me of discussions on how to integrate GC with an operating system, can each process have its own, can you not have memory protection, bla bla bla < 1361736594 273492 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember reading a thing about some proposed OSs with that < 1361736608 142264 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the idea was that everything was managed, and the kernel owned all the memory < 1361736614 529828 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course you could do like Singularity and just make everything CLR < 1361736617 790199 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and memory protection is just enforced by the VM < 1361736619 700729 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :... yeah, like that < 1361736640 228265 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i was thinking of speculation about each process being able to have its own things specified < 1361736656 657729 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so a compiled haskell process could have a different GC from a JVM < 1361736657 338663 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p4FDCCFB3.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 19.0/20130215130331] < 1361736664 866372 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something like that. < 1361736668 951595 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe they could have different GCs, but written in the same language? < 1361736672 568873 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you could load your own custom GC < 1361736681 920233 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, the kernel provides hooks to allow the GC to perform operations < 1361736688 317935 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you can writre a custom GC using those hooks < 1361736712 698920 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-160-140.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hang on < 1361736716 659015 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-160-140.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hang on hang on hang on < 1361736718 225976 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-160-140.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hang on < 1361736720 548384 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-160-140.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora's back < 1361736733 902990 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, and the heavens cried out in joy. < 1361736741 890503 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :um. bike kinda dragged me a bit < 1361736745 197002 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hangs on
< 1361736746 554199 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did not! < 1361736752 257942 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-160-140.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora's back... IS ON FIRE < 1361736752 824416 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you sorta did! < 1361736760 511559 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :eeeeep < 1361736773 681417 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION puts it out with a blanket
< 1361736774 687383 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: Well the problem was that part of the idea of something like that is that you can hopefully avoid memory protection if C-style operations aren't available < 1361736781 635014 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if every process can do its own thing you don't have that < 1361736808 633942 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :would there be something that bad about using a common intermediate language that's secure? < 1361736818 18325 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, even something like google native code < 1361736835 439185 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that'd get really tricky when you need to write a process that can implement a jit or something... >_< < 1361736839 759012 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think anybody in this conversation had heard of NaCL if it even existed at the time `-` < 1361736920 998949 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should read those eros papers to see how capabilities-based stuff goes < 1361736960 732376 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm kind of irrationally skeptical of "write everything in a managed language" because relying on compilers to generate safe code seems like a bad plan, and that's what Oberon did < 1361737013 809050 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :google native code almost seems safer than managed code on some level but I don't know if it's 'powerful enough' to do everything < 1361737040 92277 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how's it lack power? < 1361737063 879124 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm actually was NaCL able to check for memory accesses only being in a certain range < 1361737064 569080 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, I'm not sure you could write a JIT or VM in it < 1361737067 914652 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's probably not even possible... < 1361737082 113595 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it used memory segmentation or something < 1361737093 488303 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, cellular automata in the hyperbolic plane can supposedly solve NP-complete problems in polynomial time < 1361737098 450848 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the idea is to not have segmentation i guess < 1361737099 104161 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-168.elisa.ee QUIT :Quit: Left < 1361737103 421424 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: continuous automata? < 1361737124 407911 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd have to go check the paper again >_< < 1361737128 726921 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it does say cellular auotmata < 1361737137 554971 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, continuous cellular automata < 1361737150 906939 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(paper: http://t.co/RToPTfuEKH) < 1361737308 598333 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1361737367 867029 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in truth, the language independent runtime of the future is an entire linux install and virtualized x86 chip < 1361737372 96379 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the future is dumb < 1361737392 592883 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh. < 1361737432 199786 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the linux, of course, is written in dalvik bytecode < 1361737473 182548 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which runs in an ARM emulator < 1361737486 138960 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :that and/or sandboxing that skips the full virtualization part when possible < 1361737507 49127 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then there's the VM escape exploits though >_< < 1361737660 837114 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, "The USS Voyager (NCC-74656) *was* an Intrepid-class Federation starship launched in 2371" ... < 1361737727 608159 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I kind of like the idea of memory-alpha being served from the future though < 1361737874 738539 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 13 2 bs < 1361737874 925496 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : ERROR: Unknown command: (bs)! < 1361737897 946999 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361737917 18778 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1361738036 279745 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1361738054 99744 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1361738156 33812 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1361738191 305127 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: your language reference seems to contain many cases of () being used instead of {} ? < 1361738317 281868 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 1MO < 1361738317 449075 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : ERROR: Unknown command: (MO)! < 1361738324 412537 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 1mo < 1361738324 771145 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : Ain't nobody got time fo' dat! < 1361738447 42515 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ? < 1361738475 398760 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 5 5 .+ < 1361738476 41644 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : 10 < 1361738481 205809 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 5 5 (.+) < 1361738481 758234 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : .+ < 1361738482 243982 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :example: MapDup [m Defined as (^^)+]m[ < 1361738489 64215 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1361738503 540468 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq {+.}to < 1361738504 85931 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : "Block" < 1361738509 1305 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :^- that's a block < 1361738512 552175 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq (+.)to < 1361738513 9223 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : "Ident" < 1361738517 915581 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :^- that's not a block < 1361738531 772742 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :To push an identifier to the stack ( ) is used. < 1361738539 383447 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq {+.} (^^) +] < 1361738539 571598 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {^^ +.} < 1361738574 306981 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1361738582 249980 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's for putting them inside blocks < 1361738589 915518 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :with +] or the like < 1361738597 98594 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep. < 1361738601 896754 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < 1361738606 603694 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, i don't think they're useful outside of blocks < 1361738607 525443 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq ((.+))to < 1361738607 990750 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : "Quoted" < 1361738612 456933 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe e! should execute an Ident < 1361738662 774917 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq {+.}-] < 1361738663 377131 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : +. < 1361738666 361253 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq {+.}-]to < 1361738666 939835 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : "Ident" < 1361738670 121509 :gs2bot!~cinch@91.177.52.133 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361738682 190690 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't showed this language off in #esoteric thoroughly yet: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/15495351/gs2/gs2.htm < 1361738694 920572 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just a short way to push an identifier to the stack < 1361738725 485289 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq {mu}p^ < 1361738725 516955 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq "abcd"n! < 1361738725 712422 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : 'd < 1361738725 834162 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq "bye!" < 1361738725 997462 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : mu < 1361738726 13264 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : "bye!" < 1361738729 437177 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PART :#esoteric < 1361738730 493508 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :iiiiiit's also broken. < 1361738732 231603 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq "abcda"n! < 1361738732 245831 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : 'a < 1361738737 449687 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq "abacd"n! < 1361738737 612781 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : 'a < 1361738738 580770 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: i havent read yr spec yet but have you ever heard of "flogscript" < 1361738739 355185 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!gs2 "2 2+" < 1361738739 369571 :gs2bot!~cinch@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"" < 1361738744 201240 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ye < 1361738749 777350 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you know flogscript < 1361738757 374447 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :very little < 1361738765 342282 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo hasn't written any docs and it's really really weird < 1361738770 847597 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn JOIN :#esoteric < 1361738773 43242 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ther'es "docs" < 1361738776 318478 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :?? < 1361738791 515141 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :n! returns the element that appears the most often in a block/str < 1361738803 597764 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only "docs" i know of are http://d.hatena.ne.jp/milieu/20100813 < 1361738849 895514 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"No documentation yet, read the examples and source code to try to figure it out." cool < 1361738893 295651 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: theres http://esolangs.org/wiki/FlogScript which has some example programs to revers-eengineer, http://esolangs.org/wiki/Talk:FlogScript which “explains„ a program, and http://zzo38computer.org/esoteric/FlogScript/FlogScript.php.txt the “definitive ‘doc‚„ < 1361738910 426090 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-160-140.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm < 1361738922 258417 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-160-140.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks to Homestuck, I've actually heard of Dante Basco < 1361738928 75932 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uuuuugh why is gs2bot broken < 1361738943 382542 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-160-140.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`list < 1361738946 353385 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the irc part broken or the gs2 part < 1361738946 812622 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-160-140.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :THAT IS NOT A LIST < 1361738947 950578 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :cuttlefish boily elliott Taneb HackEgo Sgeo monqy pikhq Sgeo_ tswett Phantom_Hoover nortti oklopol < 1361738950 191528 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-160-140.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :UNDO < 1361738951 190113 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-160-140.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :SORRY < 1361738952 527619 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-160-140.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :SORRY < 1361738965 502441 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION patpats Taneb
< 1361738966 703314 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the gs2 part < 1361738979 378881 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-160-140.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, `list now lists people who've used `list < 1361739001 692686 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1361739002 31357 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice command < 1361739003 197011 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1361739009 636248 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-160-140.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's possible to kill HackEgo with it < 1361739039 191849 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat $(which list) < 1361739041 158219 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ oldpwd=`pwd`; cd /var/irclogs/_esoteric; name=$(cat $(ls ????-??-??.txt | tail -1) | tail -1 | sed "s/[^<]*.*//; s/.*\* //; s/ .*//"); cd $oldpwd; fgrep -q "$name" bin/list || echo -n "$name " >> bin/list; echo cuttlefish boily elliott Taneb HackEgo Sgeo monqy pikhq Sgeo_ tswett Phantom_Hoover nortti oklopol < 1361739050 268300 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :undo successful < 1361739053 147194 :gs2bot!~cinch@91.177.52.133 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1361739065 771470 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :??? < 1361739070 796517 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-160-140.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`list < 1361739071 630574 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-160-140.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`list < 1361739073 859024 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :cuttlefish boily elliott Taneb HackEgo Sgeo monqy pikhq Sgeo_ tswett Phantom_Hoover nortti oklopol < 1361739074 695544 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :cuttlefish boily elliott Taneb HackEgo Sgeo monqy pikhq Sgeo_ tswett Phantom_Hoover nortti oklopol < 1361739081 245982 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-160-140.as13285.net NICK :Ngevd < 1361739086 659505 :Ngevd!~nathan@host-92-30-160-140.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`list < 1361739087 269431 :Ngevd!~nathan@host-92-30-160-140.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`list < 1361739094 430284 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :cuttlefish boily elliott Taneb HackEgo Sgeo monqy pikhq Sgeo_ tswett Phantom_Hoover nortti oklopol < 1361739095 177491 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hatesgeo < 1361739097 795693 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :cuttlefish boily elliott Taneb HackEgo Sgeo monqy pikhq Sgeo_ tswett Phantom_Hoover nortti oklopol Ngevd < 1361739103 451289 :Ngevd!~nathan@host-92-30-160-140.as13285.net NICK :Taneb < 1361739105 564354 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-160-140.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm < 1361739115 923925 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what it is I undid. < 1361739117 897146 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 1R@ < 1361739118 58814 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : Ain't nobody got time fo' dat! < 1361739119 241321 :gs2bot!~cinch@91.177.52.133 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361739121 759350 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!gs2 "2 2+" < 1361739122 563147 :gs2bot!~cinch@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"\"$lb<<$stack.size\"\n\"gpush Garray.new($stack.slice!(($lb.pop||0)..-1))\"\n\"a=gpop;gpush ~a\"\n\"a=gpop;gpush a.ginspect\"\n\"a=gpop;\"\n\"a=gpop;$stack<b\"\n\"a=gpop;gpush a.notop\"\n\"b=gpop;a=gpop;a,b=b,a if a.class_id 1361739134 989937 NAMES :#esoteric < 1361739138 337220 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good bot < 1361739143 304767 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"thanks gs2bot" < 1361739145 897951 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-160-140.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did better than Pietbot < 1361739147 134800 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :whew < 1361739150 962866 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -o :oerjan > 1361739150 985354 NAMES :#esoteric < 1361739152 929203 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how much did it flood < 1361739155 765702 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i killed it asap < 1361739161 488131 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you can check the logs < 1361739166 902287 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bout thirty lines < 1361739183 230640 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it didnt flood so many lines but they were big lines < 1361739185 210418 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one time i test it outside /query and this happens....... < 1361739203 665091 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you should make it not print its source code. maybe you should write it in not ruby(??) < 1361739219 227830 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :blame flagitious < 1361739221 219556 :gs2bot!~cinch@91.177.52.133 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361739223 871988 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1361739226 831262 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this is golfscript "upgraded") < 1361739227 621270 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!gs2 "2 2+" < 1361739228 706827 :gs2bot!~cinch@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"4\n" < 1361739229 359928 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck you flagitious < 1361739231 858380 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks gs2bot < 1361739241 270706 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :here's how gs2bot works: < 1361739258 764127 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!gs2 "o(\{1${\(@^}%+}/]" < 1361739259 467402 :gs2bot!~cinch@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"\n" < 1361739262 715617 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks gs2bot < 1361739289 438915 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!gs2 "['aaaa''bbbb''cccc']n*o(\{1${\(@^}%+}/]" < 1361739289 768997 :gs2bot!~cinch@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"" < 1361739313 886329 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right... < 1361739332 349464 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!gs2 "['aaaa''bbbb''cccc']n*n%(\{1${\(@^}%+}/]n*" < 1361739332 645976 :gs2bot!~cinch@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"\naaaa\n\x03\x03\x03\x03\n````\n" < 1361739366 768348 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw nooodl have you noticed your table is messed up < 1361739370 466630 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least it looks messed up to me < 1361739378 136476 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's extremely big < 1361739382 170478 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zoom out a bit maybe? < 1361739392 300430 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it's really 2 tables < 1361739402 117493 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and one of them was put on top of the other < 1361739403 392310 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a t m the documentation is really bad < 1361739407 988220 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1361739416 246526 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does `hatesgeo do btw < 1361739422 245471 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forget < 1361739428 690180 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hatesgeo < 1361739430 150482 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i remember it has to do with pinging lots of people < 1361739433 718828 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but maybe it was neutered < 1361739442 574227 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat $(which hatesgeo) < 1361739443 449817 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i forget how to use it < 1361739444 73655 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ perl -n -e '/:(.*?)!.*JOIN/; $j{$1}++; END {print "$_ $j{$_};" for sort {$j{$b} <=> $j{$a}} keys %j}' $@ < 1361739459 752952 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1361739472 434243 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!gs2 "['12345678901234567890''[][][][][][][][][][]''ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRST']n* n%(\{1${\(@^}%+}/]n*" < 1361739472 758925 :gs2bot!~cinch@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"\n12345678901234567890\njohinklebmjohinklebm\n+-+-+-+-+'!#%'!;=719\n" < 1361739477 621330 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :compare to http://golf.shinh.org/p.rb?XOR+Lines+FIXED < 1361739491 401965 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can i not do that < 1361739510 479811 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : undo successful <-- um you were trying to undo a command that didn't actually _change_ anything. i thought that would revert something earlier instead, but it seems it had no effect. < 1361739530 970569 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not < 1361739549 582272 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, roughly how many of the voyager episodes are about finding dilithium? that plot could become boring after a couple of episodes < 1361739752 304056 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wasn't half the problem with voyager that they didn't spend nearly enough time finding dilithium < 1361739753 741533 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 1 100r@ < 1361739753 920692 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 3 < 1361739766 873229 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 1R@ < 1361739767 194439 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : Ain't nobody got time fo' dat! < 1361739787 61873 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: why does the latter time out when it should be about as fast as the former? < 1361739842 797629 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: aren't you doing the take inside the timeout? < 1361739846 161816 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: I remember there were a lot of episodes about mysterious space anomalies < 1361739875 544380 :impomatic2!~digital_w@146.90.165.144 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361739895 573254 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also what is Take in burlesque, it's not listed where i expected it < 1361739917 124490 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 1 100r@ 1R@ .* < 1361739917 291926 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : Ain't nobody got time fo' dat! < 1361739930 129743 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 1 100r@ 1 100r@ .* < 1361739930 277739 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : ERROR: Burlesque: (.*) Invalid arguments! < 1361739936 173128 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm ok < 1361739950 571102 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's weird < 1361739962 952971 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 1 100r@ 1 R@ .* < 1361739963 272773 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : Ain't nobody got time fo' dat! < 1361740021 801267 :impomatic2!~digital_w@146.90.165.144 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1361740049 792329 :impomatic2!~digital_w@146.90.165.144 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361740050 71779 :impomatic2!~digital_w@146.90.165.144 QUIT :Client Quit < 1361740060 341649 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 1 100r@ 1 R@ {.*}z[ < 1361740060 538511 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {{1 .*}} < 1361740063 569440 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1361740070 297347 :impomatic!~digital_w@146.90.165.144 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1361740088 85751 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 1 100r@ 1 100r@ {.*}z[ < 1361740088 400757 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {{1 .*}} < 1361740113 991951 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1361740117 981113 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 1 100r@ 1 R@ {.*}Z[ < 1361740118 156074 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : Ain't nobody got time fo' dat! < 1361740124 775715 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 1 100r@ 1 100r@ {.*}Z[ < 1361740125 25224 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : Ain't nobody got time fo' dat! < 1361740129 831144 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 1 100r@ 1 100r@ {.+}Z[ < 1361740130 2884 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : Ain't nobody got time fo' dat! < 1361740141 431540 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!gs2 74 2C 7B 2E 33 86 5C 35 86 2B 7D 2C 55 < 1361740141 656748 :impomatic2!~digital_w@146.90.165.144 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361740141 821318 :gs2bot!~cinch@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"233168\n" < 1361740144 160208 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :euler 1 < 1361740155 872795 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 1 30r@ 1 30r@ {.+}Z[ < 1361740156 54661 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {ERROR: Burlesque: (.+) Invalid arguments! {1 1} ERROR: Burlesque: (.+) Invalid < 1361740173 944944 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1361740178 333266 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 1 30r@ 1 30r@ < 1361740178 556773 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 3 < 1361740221 734340 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq {.+} 1 30r@ 1 30r@ Z[ < 1361740221 900108 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {30 29 28 27 26 25 24 23 22 21 20 19 18 17 16 15 14 13 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 < 1361740236 582329 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...wat < 1361740243 557480 :otro_viajero7!~chatzilla@186.19.239.203 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361740264 210745 :impomatic2!~digital_w@146.90.165.144 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi Otro_viajero7 :-) < 1361740272 500863 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 1 30r@ 1 30r@ z[ < 1361740272 799013 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {{1 1} {2 2} {3 3} {4 4} {5 5} {6 6} {7 7} {8 8} {9 9} {10 10} {11 11} {12 12} { < 1361740287 447649 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq {.+} 1 30r@ 1 30r@ z[\/m[ < 1361740287 610199 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {ERROR: Burlesque: (.+) Invalid arguments! {1 1} ERROR: Burlesque: (.+) Invalid < 1361740296 770809 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1361740303 556326 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what're you trying < 1361740303 722783 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, ESR just committed to C-INTERCAL (and approved a pull request too) < 1361740313 627696 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!gs2 0F "." D4 5C "5%|U" < 1361740313 985110 :gs2bot!~cinch@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"233168\n" < 1361740320 569987 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :8 bytes B) < 1361740339 642072 :otro_viajero7!~chatzilla@186.19.239.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi impomatic2 < 1361740350 13351 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: burlesque zipWith is _very_ unintuitive for this haskell :( < 1361740353 947615 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*-er < 1361740367 262605 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/9x15g/programming_thought_experiment_stuck_in_a_room/ < 1361740367 873373 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's burleseq ziwpwith < 1361740384 123351 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :burlesque zipwith takes a function on blocks, not on two things < 1361740405 134742 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/9x15g/programming_thought_experiment_stuck_in_a_room/c0ewj2c < 1361740410 795978 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 1 30r@ ^^ (++)Z[ < 1361740410 992203 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : You can haz errorz < 1361740422 911492 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, I thought about this few times < 1361740424 825475 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq {.+} 1 30r@ 1 30r@ Z] < 1361740425 167839 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {30 29 28 27 26 25 24 23 22 21 20 19 18 17 16 15 14 13 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 < 1361740455 100622 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 1 30r@ 1 30r@ {.+} Z] < 1361740455 276953 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {2 4 6 8 10 12 14 16 18 20 22 24 26 28 30 32 34 36 38 40 42 44 46 48 50 52 54 56 < 1361740461 36136 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah finally < 1361740468 585598 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh Z] is "normal people zipwith" < 1361740471 163701 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 1 30r@ 1 R@ {.+} Z] < 1361740471 321574 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {2 4 6 8 10 12 14 16 18 20 22 24 26 28 30 32 34 36 38 40 42 44 46 48 50 52 54 56 < 1361740490 40807 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: YOUR REFERENCE MANUAL NEEDS WORK < 1361740504 277167 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i suggest forth-style in -- out descriptions) < 1361740520 518195 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, the zipwith thing is pretty well explained < 1361740531 117513 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about english descriptions < 1361740533 916647 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :too < 1361740535 448185 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(see: my reorganizations of the glass page) < 1361740562 532370 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it's wrong :') < 1361740566 756507 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: um it's well explained _if you are willing to trace the code it's explained as_. that's ... ridiculous, really. < 1361740569 770978 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess ther'es sort of english descriptions here < 1361740585 45083 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah when it's like < 1361740585 735925 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for some of them < 1361740587 794019 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Defined as ^^^^avbx(?-)[+m[2?^++\/L[-.?/" < 1361740588 147615 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was pretty tame stuff, though, updating the autoconf input file to a later version of automake and changing some documentation < 1361740627 328427 :impomatic2!~digital_w@146.90.165.144 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1361740652 760470 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Still, he actually pays attention? Moderately surprising. < 1361740673 216029 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :man, http://golf.shinh.org/p.rb?uniq+chars is 2 bytes in GS2 < 1361740677 58471 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should really tell shinh about it < 1361740680 996630 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really, "maintaining open-source projects" is pretty much ESR's job < 1361740691 121729 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but teeeeechnically i'd need flagitious' permission < 1361740697 82054 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, but I thought he'd not done jack on C-INTERCAL in ages. < 1361740705 974968 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: yeah but neither had anyone else < 1361740713 210323 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fair enough. < 1361740743 317286 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: your webpage on burlesque is obnoxious < 1361740752 886401 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i liked the old design more < 1361740758 919962 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell mroman I suspect blsqbot is not doing the take to limit output size inside the timeout, which makes it time out because of parts it would otherwise never evaluate < 1361740758 950715 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1361740759 583640 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://mroman.ch/burlesque/cookbook/lref.html < 1361740797 270414 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361740798 73279 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: imo you should make gs2 even better???? more distinguished from golf script??? in a good???way??? < 1361740813 624744 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know how!!! < 1361740814 462159 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell mroman e.g. there's no reason why 1R@ should timeout < 1361740814 492986 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1361740835 625678 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've considered a change that would make it much less stack-y < 1361740855 218529 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :would it make it like j < 1361740859 212239 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :j is cool < 1361740862 330094 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1361740865 873605 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :golfscript is already backwards j < 1361740881 483154 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhh how about hm < 1361740890 435352 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in j you go "print (h (g (f input)))" < 1361740896 707735 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in golfscript it's just "input f g h" < 1361740920 356804 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they're Short for the same reasons < 1361740928 822778 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway the change is < 1361740963 836547 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it automatically stores things that get pushed or popped on the stack into Buffers < 1361740975 854284 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kinda like registers in vim < 1361741000 167169 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there some kind of documentation on burlesque? < 1361741021 438952 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you don't have to mess around with the stack at all anymore. when you push or pop some thing, you know it got saved as a variable SOMEWHERE, so you don't have to apply Stack Magic to retrieve it < 1361741048 853343 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also: seriously expand on the Mode thingy. it's so good < 1361741207 298830 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the way i've developed gs2 for the past year was just < 1361741216 380779 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :look at other things, why are they short, how do i improve on that < 1361741242 466951 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but maybe if i think of some Radical New thing... i can make things even shorter < 1361741464 496783 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :google translate of golf script into other languages is very disappointing. i was hoping for some amazing new name htats not like golfscript but it just seems to be transliterating it??? a pity. 2 of the best are probably welsh "sgript golff" and esperanto "golfo skripto" and i guess lithuanian is ok too "golfo scenarijus" < 1361741482 344806 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :golfo skripto < 1361741485 43615 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :!rot13 golf script < 1361741486 742536 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :tbys fpevcg < 1361741498 63817 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fpevcg dword ptr [eax] < 1361741498 313495 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"golfoskripto" is actually valid i think < 1361741531 53292 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd probably just be "Golfskripto" though!! jesus christ, that lithuanian < 1361741548 714959 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :japanese is cute, Gorufusukuriputo < 1361741624 431851 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kòruhusukurihûto < 1361741648 599863 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dear god. is that a romanization system people use < 1361741655 747324 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: Me only. < 1361741674 125821 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ゴフスクリプト < 1361741674 140137 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's cute < 1361741691 904534 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gough script < 1361741693 151174 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric : ^ル < 1361741707 602317 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: On the one hand, it demonstrates how kana works. On the other, nobody actually knows it. :P < 1361741750 327624 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the third hand, it doesn't help people who don't already know how kana works at all < 1361741756 330567 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mostly though it just looks arbitrarily exotic. < 1361741774 628980 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"ro'hîȳaku" is funny looking. < 1361741794 999048 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1361741797 446126 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :last time I checked, (mount) fuji is spelled huzi on google earth < 1361741799 677304 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that 六百? < 1361741808 695841 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup. < 1361741822 583754 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perfect < 1361741840 548973 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Which is perfectly valid Kunrei-shiki romanization. < 1361741853 65228 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, it was enlightening < 1361741875 25763 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just weird looking because almost everyone uses Hepburn, which is the one that uninformed people can kinda-sorta pronounce right. < 1361741915 916778 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"hu" and "fu" are just different romanizations < 1361741924 686466 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, hepburn vs kunrei < 1361741931 342448 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : is there some kind of documentation on burlesque? <-- http://mroman.ch/burlesque/index.html < 1361741933 24813 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup. "hu" being Kunrei or Nihon. < 1361742012 13737 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn QUIT :Excess Flood < 1361742055 309125 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1361742127 721368 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: does ん become something funny in your system < 1361742132 650279 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"nn"? < 1361742137 958111 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: "nn", yes. < 1361742159 960874 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn JOIN :#esoteric < 1361742161 924444 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just tend to type the way I type into a computer all the time < 1361742197 789188 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just in case some bastard wants to write んい or some such. :P < 1361742365 771978 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :...which is perfectly normal < 1361742407 210579 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The idea is kinda to be able to encode arbitrary sequences of kana, so. < 1361742471 414794 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could just encode them in like, Unicode < 1361742482 437002 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bah. < 1361742509 282337 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least some people would understand it! < 1361742518 875946 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 1 100r@ 2B! < 1361742519 40060 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {"1" "10" "11" "100" "101" "110" "111" "1000" "1001" "1010" "1011" "1100" "1101" < 1361742519 905706 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :変なローマ字が楽しかったの。 < 1361742522 130288 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: in greek "small code" is "mikrokodika" < 1361742529 688854 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :+WQkwajDtMPww3ltXMExpfTBXMEswYzBfMG4wAg < 1361742547 823285 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's your romanization < 1361742577 823528 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like romanization is more compact than utf-8 (at least for gofusukuriputo vs ゴフスクリプト) < 1361742597 369763 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: good < 1361742598 973397 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shift-jis, though! < 1361742619 778195 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... is hell < 1361742632 132333 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Which makes a difference if... er, your computer is an 8-bit microcontroller? < 1361742645 815692 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1361742647 859361 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gzip? < 1361742655 735565 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361742656 258640 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :BOCU! < 1361742658 65640 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow oops < 1361742659 149996 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :my 4GB of ram is running out, so please use ascii < 1361742659 529981 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi nooodl < 1361742661 959345 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1361742683 318884 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you all know the cute trick for finding memory leaks < 1361742693 467679 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 1 100r@ 2B!{'1==fl2.%}m[ < 1361742693 699482 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : Ain't nobody got time fo' dat! < 1361742698 514247 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 1 10r@ 2B!{'1==fl2.%}m[ < 1361742698 678136 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {ERROR: Burlesque: (.%) Invalid arguments! 2 ERROR: Burlesque: (L[) Invalid argu < 1361742710 923722 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1361742711 676059 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :run the leaky program in a debugger and just look at randomly chosen pages of memory < 1361742719 641879 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :by hypothesis, most of the memory is leaked objects < 1361742728 982702 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 1 10r@ 2B!{{'1==}fl2.%}m[ < 1361742729 112080 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {1 1 0 1 0 0 1 1 0 0} < 1361742738 346187 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 0 100r@ 2B!{{'1==}fl2.%}m[ < 1361742738 517332 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : Ain't nobody got time fo' dat! < 1361742742 808687 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 0 130r@ 2B!{{'1==}fl2.%}m[ < 1361742743 44779 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : Ain't nobody got time fo' dat! < 1361742747 160826 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my trick is < 1361742747 491146 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 0 30r@ 2B!{{'1==}fl2.%}m[ < 1361742747 651276 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {0 1 1 0 1 0 0 1 1 0 0 1 0 1 1 0 1 0 0 1 0 1 1 0 0 1 1 0 1 0 0} < 1361742749 522889 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :stare at source code < 1361742751 479614 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1361742755 840655 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: cute indeed v_v < 1361742758 374246 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you mean look at an arbitrary piece of memory and assume that whatever you're looking at is a memory leak? < 1361742760 503203 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(yay) < 1361742787 824128 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1361742798 861115 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is, assume it's a leaked object < 1361742815 743125 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you still need to figure out what's leaking that kind of object < 1361742842 675758 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you don't need any heap profiler or whatever < 1361742852 785977 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 0 30r@ 2B!{{'1==}fl2.%}m[1SH < 1361742852 981786 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : "[0,1,1,0,1,0,0,1,1,0,0,1,0,1,1,0,1,0,0,1,0,1,1,0,0,1,1,0,1,0,0]" < 1361742854 805943 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can do it on a running production system or a coredump after the fact < 1361742856 201745 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn < 1361742869 760157 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1361742988 964317 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 0 30r@ 2B!{{'1==}fl2.%}m[0SH < 1361742989 127754 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : "[0, 1, 1, 0, 1, 0, 0, 1, 1, 0, 0, 1, 0, 1, 1, 0, 1, 0, 0, 1, 0, 1, 1, 0, 0, 1, < 1361743168 730866 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1361743175 790845 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't load any websites except google... < 1361743432 534465 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you google things < 1361743436 301515 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ye < 1361743437 49732 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s < 1361743445 646113 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i can't actually load any of the results... < 1361743449 644081 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :use google cache forever < 1361743500 515054 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 0 30r@ 2B!{{'1==}fl2.%}m[""+]{_+}r[ < 1361743500 684489 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : Ain't nobody got time fo' dat! < 1361743511 773161 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 0 30r@ 2B!{{'1==}fl2.%}m[""+] < 1361743511 950842 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {"" 0 1 1 0 1 0 0 1 1 0 0 1 0 1 1 0 1 0 0 1 0 1 1 0 0 1 1 0 1 0 0} < 1361743529 892722 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-160-140.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq ("yay") < 1361743530 570782 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : "yay" < 1361743629 150147 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 0 10r@ 2B!{{'1==}fl2.%}m[""+]{_+}r[ < 1361743629 327959 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : "01101001100" < 1361743640 180210 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@77.122.91.146 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1361743645 525220 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-160-140.as13285.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1361743671 96086 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1361743679 190920 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok so basically that works but gets really short because blsqbot has a low timeout. < 1361743992 410171 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 0 30r@ 2B!{{'1==}fl2.%}m[XX < 1361743992 578083 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {0 1 1 0 1 0 0 1 1 0 0 1 0 1 1 0 1 0 0 1 0 1 1 0 0 1 1 0 1 0 0} < 1361744098 280421 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1361744113 6645 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 0 30r@ 2B!{{'1==}fl2.%}m[""+]\[ < 1361744113 176102 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : Ain't nobody got time fo' dat! < 1361744118 339821 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 0 10r@ 2B!{{'1==}fl2.%}m[""+]\[ < 1361744118 510554 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : "01101001100" < 1361744145 794789 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what is that? < 1361744156 378748 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :thue-morse sequence < 1361744190 6187 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1361744194 568798 :gs2bot!~cinch@91.177.52.133 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1361744282 664345 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 0{#s<-)n!^p}8E!#s < 1361744282 837322 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : Ain't nobody got time fo' dat! < 1361744285 420603 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 0{#s<-)n!^p}4E!#s < 1361744285 579680 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {0 1 1 0 1 0 0 1 1 0 0 1 0 1 1 0} < 1361744293 303442 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 0{#s<-)n!^p}5E!#s < 1361744293 462364 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {1 0 0 1 0 1 1 0 0 1 1 0 1 0 0 1 0 1 1 0 1 0 0 1 1 0 0 1 0 1 1 0} < 1361744304 178606 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1361744335 728291 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :{}5E! is "execute 5 times" < 1361744360 776084 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :#s<- pushes the entire stack, )n! negates all of it, ^p adds it to the current stack < 1361744378 622100 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq {1 1 1 1 0 0} #s<-)n!^p #s < 1361744378 796375 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {1 {1 1 1 1 0 0}} < 1361744385 874517 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 1 1 1 1 0 0 #s<-)n!^p #s < 1361744385 889392 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 1 1} < 1361744420 401769 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it also reverses it because stacks in burlesque are kinda backwards < 1361744434 975311 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1361745082 625865 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D http://www.sewingandembroiderywarehouse.com/embtrb.htm < 1361745112 769300 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :funnily enough that website works correctly on IE XD < 1361745119 314822 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm guessing they never tried viewing it on anything else < 1361745144 944667 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this doesn't seem like very good advice anyway < 1361745152 51993 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Needle to small " "You may have to change to a larger needle" < 1361745171 440551 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :THE FOUR-CORNER SEWING MACHINE CUBE < 1361745225 656727 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :gregor: :-D < 1361745231 857530 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: I guess that site had you < 1361745233 69951 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in stitches < 1361745239 1640 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :zing < 1361745247 52101 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 0{#s<-)n!^p}4E!#sim < 1361745247 224346 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : 110100110010110 < 1361745247 954551 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch < 1361745259 701578 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn initial 0 < 1361745418 476437 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I wonder if that's a bug on my side or theirs, the text gets bigger and bigger for every paragraph < 1361745658 861455 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq "a"sh < 1361745659 25075 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : a < 1361745664 905378 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq "a"sh"b"sh++ < 1361745665 67575 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : ERROR: Burlesque: (++) Invalid arguments! < 1361745677 112102 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq "a"sh"b"sh.+ < 1361745677 443952 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : ERROR: Burlesque: (.+) Invalid arguments! < 1361745679 629291 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq "a"sh"b"sh_+ < 1361745679 786405 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : ERROR: Burlesque: (_+) Invalid arguments! < 1361745763 918689 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq {0}{{n!}[m\[}e! < 1361745764 89391 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {1 0} < 1361745764 104413 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: this is so great < 1361745819 783210 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh iv'e seen this before < 1361745823 60136 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it's amazing < 1361745861 313749 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq {0}{{n!}[m\[}8E! < 1361745861 482707 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : Ain't nobody got time fo' dat! < 1361745864 609363 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq {0}{{n!}[m\[}4E! < 1361745864 793851 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {0 1 1 0 1 0 0 1 1 0 0 1 0 1 1 0} < 1361745939 640037 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 char shorter :P < 1361746066 242833 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq {0}{{n!}[m\[}4E!)Sh++ < 1361746066 404640 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : "0110100110010110" < 1361746250 710142 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq {0}{{n!^^n!}[m\[}4E!)Sh++ < 1361746250 841815 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : Ain't nobody got time fo' dat! < 1361746258 370178 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq {0}{{n!^^n!}[m\[}e!)Sh++ < 1361746258 555535 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : "010" < 1361746260 47903 :nada0!~nada@c-71-235-21-83.hsd1.ct.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1361746289 538833 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq {0}{{n!^^^^n!}[m\[}e!)Sh++ < 1361746289 672448 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : "0110" < 1361746294 418923 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq {0}{{n!^^^^n!}[m\[}2E!)Sh++ < 1361746294 619699 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : "0110100110010110" < 1361746300 156359 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq {0}{{n!^^^^n!}[m\[}3E!)Sh++ < 1361746300 318669 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : Ain't nobody got time fo' dat! < 1361746324 761017 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi blsqbot < 1361746356 175574 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what language do you speak? < 1361746430 111733 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :burlesque < 1361746498 106666 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it a hard language to speak < 1361746532 25969 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://mroman.ch/burlesque/lref.html < 1361746539 361097 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is somewhat annoying < 1361746542 516845 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i recognize how that sequence is formed. is it thue-morse? < 1361746546 489640 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1361746567 662656 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although some of the annoyance is because the bot has a 0.1 millisecond timeout < 1361746580 346588 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is short < 1361746611 1199 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not a queue of 1sec executions that can't exceed five in length < 1361746614 230319 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be better right < 1361746620 697828 :nada0!~nada@c-71-235-21-83.hsd1.ct.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1361746621 272268 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq {0}{{{{0 1}{1 0}}\/!!}\m}e! < 1361746621 365742 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {0 1} < 1361746626 232625 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq {0}{{{{0 1}{1 0}}\/!!}\m}8E! < 1361746626 247326 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : Ain't nobody got time fo' dat! < 1361746628 661211 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq {0}{{{{0 1}{1 0}}\/!!}\m}4E! < 1361746628 981693 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {0 1 1 0 1 0 0 1 1 0 0 1 0 1 1 0} < 1361746635 819875 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq {0}{{{{0 1}{1 0}}\/!!}\m}6E! < 1361746635 834441 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {0 1 1 0 1 0 0 1 1 0 0 1 0 1 1 0 1 0 0 1 0 1 1 0 0 1 1 0 1 0 0 1 1 0 0 1 0 1 1 0 < 1361746646 93029 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq {0}{{{{0 1 1 0}{1 0 0 1}}\/!!}\m}6E! < 1361746646 243042 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : Ain't nobody got time fo' dat! < 1361746649 49904 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq {0}{{{{0 1 1 0}{1 0 0 1}}\/!!}\m}4E! < 1361746649 282167 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : Ain't nobody got time fo' dat! < 1361746651 445986 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq {0}{{{{0 1 1 0}{1 0 0 1}}\/!!}\m}3E! < 1361746651 574842 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {0 1 1 0 1 0 0 1 1 0 0 1 0 1 1 0 1 0 0 1 0 1 1 0 0 1 1 0 1 0 0 1 1 0 0 1 0 1 1 0 < 1361746669 469598 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq {0}{{{{0 1 1 0}{1 0 0 1}}\/!!}\m}3E!)Sh++ < 1361746669 634359 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : Ain't nobody got time fo' dat! < 1361746673 67714 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq {0}{{{{0 1 1 0}{1 0 0 1}}\/!!}\m}2E!)Sh++ < 1361746673 207920 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : "0110100110010110" < 1361746686 192252 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems bloody impossible to get a longer sequence < 1361746719 934515 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: yes < 1361747033 88832 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is this that infinite sequence that never repeats? < 1361747035 288340 :impomatic2!~digital_w@146.90.165.144 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361747047 29952 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, not very specific < 1361747209 961358 :impomatic2!~digital_w@146.90.165.144 NICK :impomatic < 1361747341 588998 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it never repeats yes < 1361747381 501896 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's expanding ever 1=>10 and every 0 =>01 ? < 1361747388 339409 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yet every substring is found within bounded intervals < 1361747395 924337 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: that's one formulation yes < 1361747410 142834 :yhojeyisaac!~canaima@190.73.203.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361747417 555562 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's "uniformly recurrent") < 1361747447 92403 :yhojeyisaac!~canaima@190.73.203.233 PART :#esoteric < 1361747457 227980 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :he keeps coming back < 1361747470 947580 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :who's he? < 1361747479 71163 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh nevermind < 1361747499 900430 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know but he came here and wanted to chat in spanish < 1361747511 409208 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and has said very little otherwise < 1361747514 386686 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :afaik < 1361747529 76792 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is spanish an esoteric language? < 1361747535 678309 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1361747710 264950 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there names to all the variations like 0=>01, 1=>00 ? < 1361747777 562226 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :most of them aren't very interesting i think? < 1361747806 872989 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, that one is pretty interesting. < 1361747856 836940 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: automatic sequence, i think. < 1361747860 850124 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1361747936 121280 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let f 0 = [0,1]; f 1 = [0,0] in map (".#"!!) $ iterate (concatMap f) [0] !! 5 < 1361747937 765130 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : ".#...#.#.#...#...#...#.#.#...#.#" < 1361747943 848419 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1361748635 421558 :tswett!~tswett@23.23.86.149 QUIT :Changing host < 1361748635 436132 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett JOIN :#esoteric < 1361749793 503497 :sirdancealot7!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1361749966 245790 :sirdancealot7!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1361750014 261556 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric