< 1363737914 257463 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It makes me feel funny that AngularJS is some sort of pseudo-HTML < 1363737983 557520 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks a lot like any of a bajillion other HTML template languages < 1363737988 988307 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, it looks like it wouldn't play nice with server-side things that attempt to insert plaintext and do escaping for you... hmm.... looks like XSS possibilties if you attempt to output AngularJS code from serverside < 1363737990 731358 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :some kind of......... markup language < 1363738012 105905 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, it's clientside though < 1363738019 85965 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: so? < 1363738032 848577 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a) there are plenty of < 1363738038 699929 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :client side template systems < 1363738039 366375 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION tends to think of HTML templating as a server-side thing
< 1363738053 168511 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b) in 2013 you need to get comfortable with the idea that the client is a VM running a program < 1363738154 554802 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the traditional client/server webapp architecture kinda sucks anyway < 1363738169 207675 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :much nicer to implement an API on the server, which can be used by many clients < 1363738181 670458 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and one of those clients happens to be a totally static blob of HTML/JS/CSS that you can serve up < 1363738234 696269 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't work too well with people using NoScript though < 1363738243 116225 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1363738306 630628 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's hard to write programs for someone who has disabled the ability of their computer to run programs < 1363738317 868212 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway you can provide both < 1363738333 483205 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the server-side backend of the NoScript app can be an API client like everything else < 1363738417 336114 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the NoScript client and the rich web client will necessarily be pretty different < 1363738424 641151 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the latter can do a lot of things client-side and instantaneously < 1363738429 836324 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that the former requires a server round trip for < 1363738443 986164 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you end up implementing the functionality twice anyway, so might as well separate it nicely < 1363738546 27669 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the need to write code for both "backends" there is just an artefact of how low-level the web is imo < 1363738552 316605 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1363738560 208399 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also an Android backend in Java and an iPhone backend in ObjC < 1363738561 598210 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sucks < 1363738595 727375 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :er frontend whatever < 1363738602 526857 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like there is no reason you couldn't have one codebase that adapts to how fast replies are expected to be < 1363738611 386659 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: if your backend is JS-like then you can at least share some code < 1363738614 276484 :carado!~carado@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:221:63ff:fe9a:3747 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1363738616 817273 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yeah, that's kinda like how Meteor works < 1363738642 16595 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything looks like the web client code is directly accessing a database < 1363738651 429955 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the client transparently caches part of that database < 1363738664 777048 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in particular you want JS code generation for this < 1363738669 27663 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's good because it means you get to not write JS < 1363738673 966818 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you want to force something to run server side, it's still the same language and same APIs < 1363738681 167181 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also authentication works somehow but I don't know how < 1363738696 639960 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also if something changes in the database, it automatically gets pushed out to those client caches & updates the DOM < 1363738715 716845 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the last part is also something Quora's LiveNode does < 1363738722 36232 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have server side templating I think < 1363738732 907336 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but whenever they render some HTML, they remember which SQL queries went into determining it < 1363738738 636977 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if those things change they push new HTML out to you < 1363738741 592157 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :another thing is that since page history APIs exist now, if a browser supports JS then there is basically no reason to ever do a full page load when you can avoid downloading all the surrounding site design crap and just insert the new page in place < 1363738749 465543 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had these thoughts when considering rewriting the esowiki's software < 1363738754 487209 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which of course I bikeshedded to oblivion < 1363738804 316486 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yo < 1363738818 136496 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1363738853 820045 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-29-1.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Friend of mine is actually working on doing this for his company's website. < 1363738895 236696 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you designing elliottwiki < 1363738898 116931 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-29-1.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because, for various reasons, he's been working pretty hard on making the thing load as quickly and smoothly as possible. < 1363738903 946728 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the nice thing is that it should be easy to just send down a diff of the DOM or such rather than actually coding this update logic by hand < 1363738916 36692 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but again you need a higher-level thing than what all web programming is done in to do this automatically < 1363738921 436774 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-29-1.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, sorry, he's actually already done this. < 1363739148 956495 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: well it was actually going to try and be as much like mediawiki as possible < 1363739153 416792 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just because i hate maintaining a mediawiki install that much < 1363739167 976897 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :medielliot < 1363739196 446676 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's literally like a major version behind < 1363739201 207618 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because my "upgrade workflow" broke < 1363739202 805950 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i'm so lazy < 1363739222 268048 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so we can't write a wiki cyclic tag interpreter in embedded lua is what you're saying < 1363739272 251089 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that;'s an extension Bike < 1363739275 486643 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if i upgraded it < 1363739277 398330 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it wuold never beyours < 1363739290 376911 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow guys do you remember beinga ble to type < 1363739305 106619 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aww < 1363739305 347506 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1363739336 457785 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: don't you remember being 12 and always using totally correct punctuation and shit < 1363739340 607304 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it used to be so easy! < 1363739344 415974 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :positively monoidal < 1363739354 727879 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think i had a computer when i was twelve < 1363739368 997834 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you poor person < 1363739387 154484 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or if i did i was using it for Putt Putt or some shit < 1363739396 906673 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :putt putt at 12??? < 1363739406 635658 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm "slow" < 1363739408 562468 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok for real, < 1363739411 470556 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i don't remember the normal ages for games < 1363739412 797128 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :spy fox was the fucking greatest < 1363739418 395225 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you all know it < 1363739419 300194 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes he was < 1363739457 607098 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm glad we have consensus < 1363739521 158624 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1363739916 96105 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-d9329819.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the nice thing is that it should be easy to just send down a diff of the DOM or such rather than actually coding this update logic by hand <== well, i wouldn't send the DOM transformations but just update the ViewModel of a page.. as it's recommended by the MVVM design pattern. And for the transformations of the DOM you could _observe_ the client.side ViewModel! there are several JS libs providing observable < 1363739916 96322 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-d9329819.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : bindings sparing you a lot of eventhandling and backgroundworking.. like knockout.js < 1363739916 96436 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-d9329819.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://knockoutjs.com/ < 1363740145 837448 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-d9329819.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you implement the domainn tier server side and provide a light webservice interface, which handles the communication between the ViewModel (client) and the BusinessModel (server).. i prefer JSON and REST rather than the haevier XML/SOAP stories < 1363740195 17360 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sorry but this is _definitely_ too enterprisey to be on topic in this channel. < 1363740221 269460 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-d9329819.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay :> < 1363740222 447322 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :enterprise lambda calculus < 1363740303 525025 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had to argue with someone who wanted to use "REST" to mean basically "not SOAP" < 1363740320 907877 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice. < 1363740321 822281 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for an API which, though lightweight and JSON-based, was not remotely RESTful < 1363740592 562680 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-d9329819.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, ok.. i guess you could argue on that (not splitting hairs on the definition of REST architecture) and reach consesus and understanding in single meeting < 1363740612 369856 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-d9329819.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :one must try hard to fail on that < 1363740768 556057 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-d9329819.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean.. if you read the wiki article, and unterstand the few restrictions and ideas you're ready to go.. you probably will do, if you already have some experience on the SOA issue < 1363740774 353283 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Oh, wow. < 1363740782 733265 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-d9329819.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and begin to love the less is more idea < 1363740803 802403 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION starts using “Haskell” to mean basically “not PHP”.
< 1363740831 373359 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haskell pipertext processor < 1363740865 521987 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pipertext < 1363740889 507040 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pipertext. < 1363740894 516349 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pipertext. < 1363740906 453434 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.indiana.edu/~librcsd/etext/piper/text.html good poem, i recited it once < 1363741073 472118 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo, more like reshited. < 1363741080 421921 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :only works with british pronunciation < 1363741099 155794 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1363741166 582241 :Bike_!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1363741198 133117 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm random page gave me http://esolangs.org/wiki/Talk_talk:Turing_tarpit is that supposed to happen? < 1363741221 383186 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1363741249 133269 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps it actually counts that as in Main: < 1363741263 457580 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, it is < 1363741272 804242 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :see also http://esolangs.org/wiki/Talk:Talk_talk:Turing_tarpit < 1363741309 274758 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ic < 1363741319 104706 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forget the context < 1363741608 49925 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-d9329819.pool.mediaWays.net NICK :hagb4rd|brb < 1363741705 645301 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes this will definitely be a language someday < 1363741735 456328 :kallisti_!~eris@168.28.136.16 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1363741934 148366 :Bike_!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1363741938 195503 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1363742055 417038 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :(((((()))(()()))((()())((()))))((((()))(()))((())((()))))((((())))(((()()))))(((()())((()())))(((()()))(())))((((())((()())))((()()))))(((((()())))((()()))))((((()))))(()())(())(())(()())) < 1363742129 852932 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1363742151 615917 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1363742154 435451 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow freefull you know ursala too?? < 1363742180 860504 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there some library in C to run Verilog programs and can be used with other programs? < 1363742205 210034 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wants a simple Scheme-like language on which it's convenient to build esolangs off of
< 1363742214 345435 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Scheme like except has this function" for instance < 1363742232 46844 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you tried banana scheme < 1363742239 245574 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :alt. analogy to awful brainfuck derivatives < 1363742246 545564 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :alt. is this about trustfuck(trustscheme?) < 1363742248 558419 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :alt. =/ < 1363742264 935281 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it's about trustfuck < 1363742305 455460 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Memfractal < 1363742308 845490 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forget, did you rename it to braintrust so you could put it on your resume? how did that go < 1363742333 806628 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so just uh, write a scheme, i guess? it's pretty easy if you don't ccare about stupid things like numbers < 1363742336 226639 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think + is a bit underdefined < 1363742338 524949 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I renamed it to Braintrust, it's not on resume, but during interview I mentioned that I had projects not listed on resume, he asked for one, and I mentioned Braintrust < 1363742374 822531 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and how did that go < 1363742421 726012 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was hired, so I assume that went well < 1363742578 876120 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree with FreeFull < 1363742587 577191 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you access the copy? Entering the +? < 1363742592 706130 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where do you end up? < 1363742596 227085 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, ping < 1363742629 831323 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not even sure what the arrows mean/do < 1363742737 569350 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think a new Trust language should just have an easy way to make a quine < 1363742756 898327 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah i recall memfractal. i believe it works in the obvious way hth. < 1363742792 478265 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, should be obvious if you know what a fractal is. < 1363742812 481746 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Maybe I didn't make it clear. The ^v<> are entry/exit points. < 1363742851 466560 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :..Oh, I think I see < 1363742860 188871 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :When you enter a copy, you come out the side you just entered < 1363742870 488461 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, i must stop assuming people share my idea of what things are obvious. < 1363742870 786232 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So hit + from the right you enter the new copy from the < < 1363742882 419561 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But where does the top level one come from/ < 1363742899 388012 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1363742936 875937 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that does indeed seem unspecified < 1363742944 817968 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is not indicated where the top level one come from; maybe it should be < 1363742946 626378 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :by analogy with befunge, i'd assume > < 1363743113 275366 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, to use + as a memory cell, you make coming from (say) right the memory test, coming from top is 1 coming from bottom is 0 < 1363743122 978113 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And coming from left is regular program usage < 1363743133 427465 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This allows for a bounded amount of memory < 1363743168 106669 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see a way to build any sort of addressing scheme, at least not immediately.... hm < 1363743179 656155 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see something, but not sure how many sides it requires < 1363743193 588437 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm < 1363743312 120982 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Needs to be a prefix-free code. < 1363743319 226545 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 means just use local memory < 1363743326 128494 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm, as in, return immediately. < 1363743387 336968 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :After that, a cell can get multiple bits by returning and storing the address so far, then the client asks for more < 1363743532 557559 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We can send a + a 0, 1, or 2. (3 is assumed to be the start of the program) < 1363743618 967217 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm i think maybe there _shouldn't_ be a particular direction of entering a program. instead the program input is a sequence of ^v<> 's that are used for entering, and the output is simultaneously the sequence of exits. < 1363743642 676142 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/simultaneously/similarly/ < 1363743656 487737 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A sequence? < 1363743685 248831 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wouldn't each piece of output be independent of each other < 1363743692 648128 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Every thing in the input is a separate execution < 1363743700 367626 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although that does make it convenient to test things, I guess < 1363743703 547446 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, because you remember the bits of the subprograms < 1363743711 181109 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right < 1363743767 447565 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :alternatively you could encode input as the initial pattern of bits set somehow < 1363743869 68008 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, so address 0 is "What is your bit" < 1363743999 187732 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw memfractal looks like it can be compiled, there are only a few possible control paths < 1363744031 946466 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the difference between a compiler and an interpreter glued to some input? < 1363744069 379458 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because my implementation for my 'compiled' language is really an interpreter glued to some input < 1363744074 897819 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :by "compiled" i mean that you don't have to work directly on the 2-dimensional program. < 1363744094 774562 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :since it doesn't actually change < 1363744226 316450 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to think how you could compile a Boolfuck-like thing to Memfractal < 1363744233 540836 :md_5!md_5@mcdevs/trusted/md-5 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1363744248 187699 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Obvious is where the memory for the tape comes from. Not obvious is where each instruction gets encoded < 1363744261 618022 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems tricky to get room for the [] flow control < 1363744314 17807 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the one hand you can have as many + as you want, on the other they all must work identically < 1363744336 107795 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can give input to a + < 1363744345 988096 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So maybe the input encodes whether to... do... something < 1363744475 955303 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... < 1363744544 908967 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can also hopefully have some of the +'s be used only for added local state for the surrounding one < 1363744606 795521 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, also memfractal is reversible, this tends to awkwardize things. < 1363744673 40339 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i don't think we ever found out how to use backflip in a convenient way, ais523's derivatives notwithstanding) < 1363744735 438655 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :backflip? < 1363744739 509705 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should look at that < 1363744876 987721 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :backflip is really elegant, yet incomprehensible < 1363744915 468552 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :BF isn't TC < 1363744932 379429 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love ambiguous acronyms. < 1363744994 929396 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed not. but it still might have an intuitive way of doing computation which we haven't found yet, and which could be TC if you say allowed infinite setup < 1363745133 809285 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't understand why it doesn't have infinite loops < 1363745163 768707 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, guess can't put an always-reflecting mirror at the entrance, and... it will always end up at the entrance if not halted elsewhere? < 1363745335 120309 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a general property of any reversible finite state system that it cannot go into an infinite loop unless it started in it < 1363745337 108747 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe we should look for a storage device in Memfractal < 1363745358 758701 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Similar to ABCDXYZ < 1363745402 787256 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe. i felt that the control flow was the real problem in backflip. < 1363745407 14016 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, no, any device would have to comprise most of the program < 1363745427 298851 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most you could do was say "Ok, here's the section of the program where you can do your own unique stuff" < 1363745781 199941 :p3t3r!~chatzilla@pool-72-88-90-31.bflony.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1363745826 549655 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :one property of memfractal that doesn't have an analogue in backflip is that if you leave a block by the same exit that you entered, you have to retrace your steps backwards until you hit that block again < 1363745848 799662 :p3t3r!~chatzilla@pool-72-88-90-31.bflony.fios.verizon.net PART :#esoteric < 1363745867 698689 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm < 1363745962 944842 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1363746018 428379 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi p3t3r. by p3t3r. < 1363746033 361374 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1363746218 839652 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :this means that for useful computation, you _never_ want to leave a block by the same exit the first time < 1363746236 229122 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fwiw < 1363746403 624167 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Good night < 1363747542 261882 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1363748077 853516 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1363748341 721428 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reversible computing both interests and confuses me < 1363748825 154629 :md_5!md_5@mcdevs/trusted/md-5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1363748872 70206 :hagb4rd|brb!~perdito@koln-d9329819.pool.mediaWays.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1363748877 937503 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders if Phantom_Hoover would like The Melancholy of Suzumiya Haruhi
< 1363748919 409488 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that the one in the school < 1363748928 112138 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1363748929 970352 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm very suspicious of the japanese around schools < 1363748941 342843 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although "the one in the school" seems like it's probably ambiguous < 1363748945 157765 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it is in a school < 1363748949 13834 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except when it isn't, I guess < 1363748972 909294 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-29-1.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Being set in a school is so common for anime it's practically cliche. < 1363748982 902492 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :definitely not practically < 1363748998 553480 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*use-mention distinction < 1363749289 358667 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1363750417 602868 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders if PMMM is on crunchyroll
< 1363750611 277852 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=torrentinfo&tid=386505 < 1363750716 851181 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :#esoteric's secret quest to cram as much logged illegality into 24 hours as possible < 1363750756 202180 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db4fd89.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1363751315 40715 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kinda want to take salvia while watching pirated medukas now < 1363751348 240483 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wouldn't it help to pick an actually illegal drug < 1363751351 316635 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is salvia illegal where you are < 1363751523 610024 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know i'm not sure < 1363751526 360874 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Arc_Koen < 1363751540 761226 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i could just get some child porn and burn it and get high off the ashes mixed with salvia? < 1363751543 920243 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :to be safe < 1363751683 874238 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could try killing someone also < 1363751710 810489 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :better safe than sorry < 1363751714 247821 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-29-1.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I couldn't even smoke marijuana illegally. < 1363751836 40812 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why's that < 1363751841 79890 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-29-1.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Colorado. < 1363751842 989235 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PART :#esoteric < 1363751851 300574 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :poor bastard < 1363751871 971392 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-29-1.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guess I'll have to settle for blackjack and hookers. < 1363752107 750399 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why did i think you were in finland < 1363752111 313197 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1363752112 619528 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know why < 1363752129 760910 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it legal to buy and sell as well? < 1363752177 892119 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's like washington there's a whole licensed dispensary system < 1363752197 971686 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure how that works since it's still federally illegal, but whatever < 1363752247 630683 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :guys i think we scared zzo away < 1363752253 952334 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-29-1.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: It's not *yet* legal to buy and sell, but that's a matter of the regulations pending. < 1363752285 371427 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :CO has had medical marijuana for a while.... maybe those same dispensaries will start selling to the general public? < 1363752297 700835 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-29-1.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically, the state has a few months to decide precisely how to regulate recreational marijuana. < 1363752303 621497 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yeah it's federally illegal, and in CA as well, and the various other states with MMJ < 1363752325 125396 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes the feds get in a mood to go busting dispensaries and sometimes they stay away < 1363752330 340682 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :michael michael jackson < 1363752332 785184 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like what does that mean though, the DEA just.. oh, well, okay < 1363752335 134654 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :medical michael jackson < 1363752336 970658 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good legal system we have < 1363752363 873066 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: the great thing about a country where everything is illegal is that the actual power of the law is vested not in legislatures or judges but in enforcement agencies and prosecutors < 1363752383 251624 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's all about, did you piss someone off, do they want to make an example of you < 1363752401 651095 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, i know < 1363752408 830391 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's still weird to think about < 1363752426 668959 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't remember the most recent official word from obama regarding medical marijuana as an enforcement priority < 1363752440 701499 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think they decided to lay off but not sure < 1363752460 394125 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :with legalization in WA and CO, they might crack down to prove a point there < 1363752462 813458 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :obama more like... maybebama < 1363752467 801386 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :power is sort of, use it or lose it < 1363752487 160069 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what would even be the point? insofar as the drug war even has a point it's screaming about cartels, which is hardly relevant to growing your own < 1363752491 344453 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :am i just not cynical enough < 1363752505 321322 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1363752523 704731 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shit < 1363752545 359318 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the drug war exists to perpetuate the organizations which prosecute it < 1363752552 332615 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :militarized police, the DEA, the prison system < 1363752559 247945 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the cartels < 1363752576 901164 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, that just makes me wonder why it started < 1363752580 391155 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can i just blame reagan < 1363752593 583476 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :partially but marijuana was banned long before him < 1363752600 841325 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it started as a moral panic against the mexicans and the negro jazz musicians < 1363752602 172213 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :those damn jazzists < 1363752606 322437 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the drug war actually only exists to keep people distracted from chemtrails < 1363752614 341214 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(im not being serious please dont use this against me in the future) < 1363752621 41314 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why it's called "marijuana" in the USA and "cannabis" everywhere else < 1363752622 432002 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :420 blaze the towers? < 1363752626 651476 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :marihuana < 1363752631 782620 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: oh damn, for real < 1363752645 791124 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :marijuafunkyana < 1363752651 191691 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the secret messag....... < 1363752652 92074 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact I'm told that when the drug was banned, very few people understood that this devil weed "marijuana" was the same ordinary hemp crop that every farmer had growing in their fields < 1363752678 602013 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hemp more like.... help < 1363752696 675445 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know what's weird about hemp? they make milk out of it. that's weird < 1363752718 931561 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :do they call it hilk or helk < 1363752735 252123 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :helk, it's a new age thing < 1363752742 441339 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hilk, more like silk < 1363752756 151437 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I ain't a hilk! / I'm a gnu. < 1363752769 281568 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :er. < 1363752771 961206 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/./E/ < 1363752774 958293 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hain't a hilk! / I'm a gnu. < 1363752777 803703 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1363752781 870209 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hain't a helk! / I'm a gnu. < 1363752879 588797 :sivoais!~zaki@unaffiliated/sivoais QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1363752934 32651 :sivoais!~zaki@unaffiliated/sivoais JOIN :#esoteric < 1363752993 541105 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I’d like to interject for just a moment. < 1363753188 800978 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION waits
< 1363753510 728949 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: you can make anything out of hemp and sell it to hippies and wannabe hippie-yuppies < 1363753537 811574 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, but i wouldn't know about it if it didn't show up at the food bank of all places. < 1363753918 771578 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1363753921 582679 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is odd < 1363753942 320472 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunately # wannabe hippie-yuppies >> # hippies these days :( < 1363753950 516362 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :people donate the weirdest shit, though. < 1363753980 822250 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, i have a tub of frozen steak. no you can't ask me why or why it's in a tub. no i don't need a receipt you don't need my name. bye! < 1363753990 771879 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1363754084 924548 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its actually salvia < 1363754107 971533 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you process donations at a food bank? < 1363754120 432246 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the foodbank is being clandestinely used by the salvia cartles, who freeze it into meat < 1363754124 396582 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, we get donations all the time. < 1363754158 484884 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously people's donations are a pretty minor part of what we give out though. Plus it's usually bizarre or way out of date. < 1363754181 431451 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it reasonable to reject a gaming computer CPU if it doesn't have VT-x because I want virtualization just as a toy? < 1363754191 431660 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :virtualization is fucking useful < 1363754204 421339 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which processors don't have it? aren't they really low-end anyway? < 1363754207 449641 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I don't have a use for it other than messing around < 1363754211 564879 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The super high end unlocked ones don't have it either, I think < 1363754213 791551 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :market segmentation thing < 1363754216 452048 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohh < 1363754216 902142 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-29-1.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, but it's reasonable to reject a gaming computer CPU for not having VT-x because *seriously what fucking chip are you buying, a Dorito?* < 1363754230 114750 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, so they mostly all have it, ok < 1363754235 261910 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could back up your whole hard drive on a floppy diskette / you're the biggest joke on the internet < 1363754242 514972 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.neowin.net/images/uploaded/haswell_cpu_lineup.jpg like I saw this the other day < 1363754248 210920 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-29-1.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION nods sagely at kmc
< 1363754250 942233 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My computer from 2001 didn't have VT-x I think < 1363754251 866653 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the "K" CPUs are missing "VT-d" < 1363754260 492044 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used it until maybe 2007 or so < 1363754262 442266 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-29-1.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have your own newsgroup / alt.total.luser < 1363754270 796866 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :VT-d is different though < 1363754276 296796 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's VT-d? < 1363754288 351837 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it's the IOMMU virtualization thing < 1363754290 951979 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am vaguely thinking of putting XenClient on the machine and putting OSes on top of that < 1363754295 567679 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're different? @_@ oh geez < 1363754295 912046 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lets you route a physical ethernet card to a VM, for example < 1363754326 812074 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-29-1.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure you can do that without it, it's just more CPU-intensive. < 1363754330 513450 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Windows for games and Linux for everything else, without rebooting to switch between them < 1363754331 111944 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-29-1.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Might also need Xen. < 1363754336 791720 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, and/or less secure < 1363754337 617510 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is vt-x in cpuinfo somewhere, i want to see how hard i lack it < 1363754342 111996 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's called vmx i think < 1363754360 301833 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-29-1.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Is your computer 4 years old or newer? < 1363754371 371984 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :AMD's is called svm < 1363754375 803214 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-29-1.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If so, is your computer using an Atom CPU? < 1363754377 151833 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably not, but it's also an Atom < 1363754396 761602 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suspect one of the processors is in fact a dorito. < 1363754400 871579 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of the cores* < 1363754406 370235 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that must be the uncore < 1363754410 725547 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :<.< >.> < 1363754420 935198 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-29-1.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, the Atom doesn't have it I don't think. < 1363754421 144889 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haunted 'ghost cores' < 1363754435 876995 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :brutally killed with a laser at the factory, they haunt your data forevermore < 1363754482 277737 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :intel cpus are powered by the ghosts of murdered silicon -- buy amd! < 1363754532 844277 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i want a horror film called "Fear Uncertainty and Doubt" < 1363754534 42324 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1363754546 721784 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fear Uncertainity and Doubt in Las Vegas < 1363754565 902113 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :subtitled The Microsoft Story < 1363754569 681970 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh there's such a thing as All-In-One computers < 1363754570 881770 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :about Ballmer's adventures while very high < 1363754576 962449 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe there's enough room here for one of those < 1363754623 838404 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-29-1.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Yeah, um, computers have gotten kinda crazy lately. < 1363754627 735705 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: that's with monitor built in? < 1363754632 322490 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, I think so < 1363754645 55470 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why does /r/buildapc seem to have a Microcenter fetish? < 1363754654 405192 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm suspicious of those < 1363754669 935038 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-29-1.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can actually get really tiny and cheap x86 systems these days. < 1363754675 29460 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-29-1.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay, $50 Atom boards. < 1363754685 485055 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can get a 'nettop' or 'booksize' computer and a separate monitor and it'll take up the same space, plus you can upgrade one or the other < 1363754688 984034 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe the specs are worse though < 1363754702 395784 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-29-1.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Might not matter though. < 1363754717 44917 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :do the all-in-one machines actually have good monitors < 1363754722 429992 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-29-1.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doubtful. < 1363754735 399898 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh i'm spoiled monitor-wise though < 1363754738 184569 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably fine < 1363754765 854991 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders if 3d monitors are worth it
< 1363754793 683965 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :jesus that's a thing now? i mean of course it is, but still < 1363754829 674259 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-29-1.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In a word, no. < 1363754834 334316 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-29-1.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In more words, no no no no no. < 1363754857 634711 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :red-cyan glasses suck, cross-eyed sucks < 1363754876 774703 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also maybe the monitor will make 3d games that wouldn't particularly support that kind of thing support it? < 1363754902 655487 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My normal glasses are like 3d glasses for reality... < 1363754955 793856 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha Sgeo < 1363754984 888884 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the most stonertastic thing that's been said here in a while < 1363755110 219701 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They are! They're not necessary for me to see what's going on, they just make things look nicer and pop out < 1363755366 29349 :Mathnerd314!~quassel@palevsky-223-221.rh.uchicago.edu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1363755798 386883 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's how it is for me sort of < 1363755805 974682 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also needed for reading far away things < 1363755901 223340 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need mine for not being blind < 1363755947 277503 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-29-1.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stuff's kinda fuzzy but I can *see* without glasses. < 1363755957 710378 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-29-1.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I can't read my monitor without them. < 1363756033 157406 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1363756049 659279 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it possible to design a computer with CF cards? < 1363756061 962445 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somebody said it isn't. < 1363756083 374692 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-29-1.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why wouldn't it be possible? < 1363756107 464714 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's quite easy -- CF and PATA are compatible electrically < 1363756110 785191 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :all you need is a pin adapter < 1363756120 550071 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Yes, it is what I thought. < 1363756127 398491 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :although some CF cards can't do DMA and are slow < 1363756138 215785 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was the ill fate of my attempt to have an SSD laptop in 2006 this way < 1363756157 937886 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is SSD laptop? < 1363756165 590209 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a laptop with an SSD instead of a hard drive < 1363756166 474695 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-29-1.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can go crazier still. < 1363756188 946290 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-29-1.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :PATA is also electrically compatible with ISA. < 1363756190 366700 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is "SSD", though? < 1363756254 333314 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :When I am designing the computer, I intend to have both CompactFlash and hard drives, as well as optical drive. < 1363756266 825529 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-29-1.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solid state drive. < 1363756268 674707 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"solid state drive" < 1363756273 262514 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: OK, thanks < 1363756299 344827 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :typically, a SATA storage device using flash memory, which has the same form factor as a laptop hard drive and is fast enough to be one's primary / boot disk < 1363756304 785119 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed much much faster than spinny disks < 1363756362 374645 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My right eye has good vision but my left eye gets fuzzy at distance even short distances < 1363756367 733548 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, say, an SD card would not get called an SSD, even though you could run your whole system off of it, and it might be fast < 1363756371 445615 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-29-1.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mine are equally bad. < 1363756378 664897 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: huh, I didn't know it's ISA compatible, weird / cool < 1363756408 614571 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have perfect vision < 1363756418 595726 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i've been staring at computer screens since i was 3 < 1363756418 894671 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm so how hard is it to talk to a PATA hard drive from an Arduino or whatever? probably actually fairly easy < 1363756419 624591 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so y'all weird < 1363756424 587286 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need glasses for far away < 1363756426 865892 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-29-1.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. The history of the bus is literally just that Western Digital moved the controller board to the bottom of the hard drive. < 1363756432 694622 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed elliott, let us mock the inferior race < 1363756435 354705 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha HA < 1363756438 416320 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah this has been done < 1363756441 612008 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, we'all weird, including you < 1363756458 834667 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you all saw http://dmitry.gr/index.php?r=05.Projects&proj=07.%20Linux%20on%208bit right < 1363756487 34706 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Linux running [*] on an ATmega1284 < 1363756504 395549 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what an exciting footnote that must be. < 1363756507 617122 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I make the design much simpler so that it does not have to load so much from the hard disk to boot, using BIOS to boot, mostly, rather than hard disk. < 1363756508 406347 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: the race of bad eye people < 1363756511 734583 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1363756525 538144 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And even then you don't need as many files as Windows or Linux, so it is faster due to that, too. < 1363756530 35857 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm pretty sure eugenicists have wanted them all to die at some point and that's basically what makes you a "race" so! < 1363756536 86228 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess my eyesight will probably go bad sometime < 1363756554 495264 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :better get our superiority in now < 1363756569 503767 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Is that why they call it the "human race"? < 1363756571 610084 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: do bicycles even have glasses < 1363756590 314561 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: uh yes how do you think we pick up hipsters < 1363756601 122524 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: eugenicists tend to be somewhat misanthropic, yes. < 1363756617 726347 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: why would you want to!! < 1363756641 445360 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :where do you think bikes get our sustenance? just pedaling? i need meat. < 1363756720 247624 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, my opinion is that human dignity is not the most important things in the universe; how does that make me? < 1363756777 204708 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not enough information to determine if you're misanthropic. < 1363756785 971479 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't think so. < 1363756798 944709 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you don't think human dignity is that important but you still think humans are pretty cool. Maybe you'd still have a beer with us sometime or shoot the shit. < 1363756837 861054 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually I don't drink alcohol, and I don't know what "shoot the shit" is. < 1363756848 1112 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi zzo38 < 1363756851 55109 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :welcome back < 1363756853 812288 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I kind of understand you, a little bit. < 1363756862 344865 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shoot the shit, you know. Chill. Hang. < 1363756871 163998 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mosey. < 1363756873 904702 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like moseying? < 1363756896 83987 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes. < 1363756900 564318 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2010/05/24 < 1363756909 593966 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We cool, zzo38. We cool. < 1363757015 585014 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn moseying < 1363757016 184645 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No match for "moseying". < 1363757018 877484 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn mosey < 1363757019 843714 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*** "mosey" wn "WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)" < 1363757019 843922 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mosey < 1363757019 844037 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : v 1: walk leisurely [syn: {amble}, {mosey}] < 1363757031 775570 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is leisurely an adj. or an adv. < 1363757032 584289 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1363757036 970359 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I found it in Wiktionary, the same things < 1363757047 308660 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn leisurely < 1363757047 714473 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*** "leisurely" wn "WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)" < 1363757047 924152 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :leisurely < 1363757047 924255 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : adv 1: in an unhurried way or at one's convenience; "read the < 1363757047 924302 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : manual at your leisure"; "he traveled leisurely" [syn: < 1363757047 924345 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : {at leisure}, {leisurely}] < 1363757049 708181 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[3 @more lines] < 1363757051 557071 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@more < 1363757051 791860 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : adj 1: not hurried or forced; "an easy walk around the block"; < 1363757053 864127 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : "at a leisurely (or easygoing) pace" [syn: {easy}, < 1363757055 764554 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : {easygoing}, {leisurely}] < 1363757056 364041 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh shit!!! < 1363757058 826301 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :4gasp < 1363757067 245285 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :related: http://media.tumblr.com/ca94f121e29dfdf9d2a4ea79ee369ffd/tumblr_inline_mjxbylJCb91qz4rgp.png < 1363757082 908250 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: are you in vancouver or something < 1363757090 485150 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn literally < 1363757090 785715 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*** "literally" wn "WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)" < 1363757090 994068 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :literally < 1363757090 994267 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : adv 1: in a literal sense; "literally translated"; "he said so < 1363757090 994382 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : literally" [ant: {figuratively}] < 1363757090 994492 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2: (intensifier before a figurative expression) without < 1363757092 767928 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : exaggeration; "our eyes were literally pinned to TV during < 1363757094 716407 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : the Gulf War" < 1363757096 614633 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I live in the woods north of Vancouver. < 1363757109 447420 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are bears. < 1363757117 575358 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay autoantonyms < 1363757121 64797 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought you were a student at uw < 1363757128 544947 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not yet. < 1363757145 593973 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does "autoantonym" also mean "a word which isn't an antonym of itself"? < 1363757150 904672 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yet? < 1363757159 204182 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...oh, well done < 1363757187 274647 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: did you read "breakfast of champions"" < 1363757193 822649 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1363757202 484895 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask monqy for forgiveness < 1363757202 692849 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1363757220 684765 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh? < 1363757284 624839 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ur quotes mismatched < 1363757305 104832 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: its "alrigt"" i already asked monqy for forgiveness < 1363757322 210193 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that how this game is played < 1363757322 810710 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh god i talked while his quote was open < 1363757328 64488 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i'm going to be quoted forever :( < 1363757359 715245 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : yes < 1363757363 24534 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-- permanent record < 1363757372 664799 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( :( :( < 1363757478 564813 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :double secret probation < 1363757495 578820 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: did you read it < 1363757528 385156 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :today i bought a bunch of vonnebukks < 1363757597 435553 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fac t i bought too many?? < 1363757604 606651 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe ill never read them all < 1363757612 278630 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i read it < 1363757820 954126 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you buy timequake i bet you did < 1363757853 366425 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i bought the books that the used bookstore in town had < 1363757857 305392 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :timequake was one of them < 1363757862 799595 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :calle dit < 1363757864 875659 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it good < 1363757879 753444 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno < 1363757978 489228 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you read it < 1363757989 445381 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1363758017 705997 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't get it Bike. explain. < 1363758023 294900 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Suppose you're severely ill. There's a medical procedure that has a very small chance of saving your life. You are a registered organ donor. If you attempt the procedure and die anyway, your organs will not be usable for organ donation. What do you do? < 1363758158 936371 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you dying Sgeo < 1363758170 355602 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1363758191 795915 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But there is an actual situation this could be considered analogous to < 1363758205 975895 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have good reason to believe that someone's response would be indicative of their behavior < 1363758209 197047 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scratch that. Yes, I am dying, just like everyone else who currently exists. < 1363758225 566327 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a meta-question: how many third world children are going to die of preventable disease while we discuss this moral hypothetical < 1363758263 835856 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc you colonialist! gosh. < 1363758281 928399 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it's just my cultural imperialist viewpoint that children shouldn't die by shitting themselves inside out < 1363758290 88845 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. exactly. < 1363758446 466266 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck, I have 98.4% of Time Trumpet downloaded and it's been stuck there for 2 days < 1363758484 446197 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the last 1.6% of the time trumpet is inaccessible to mere mortals. < 1363758486 975582 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to find it for yourself < 1363758505 516906 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was intended to be analogous to cryonics < 1363758514 656345 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh for god's sake dude. < 1363758517 22714 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :take it to #lesswrong < 1363758536 571833 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"oopse did i just inform Sgeo of that channel" < 1363758552 18006 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that actually exists doesn't it oh no < 1363758750 79703 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think people should die if they want to do so (but think of it first; there is no going back) < 1363758760 759733 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if you're jesus < 1363758773 285578 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :He probably thought about it a lot. < 1363758779 957426 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Irrelevant. < 1363758793 686609 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why < 1363758869 115194 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, what of a person who currently wants to die but if they take a pill every day they stop wanting to die? < 1363758869 743228 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That question is irrelevant. < 1363758889 355490 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: WHAT IF YOU'RE IRRELEVANT............>>>>>!!!!!!!!! < 1363758905 308207 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: It depends on that person, I guess. < 1363758954 920448 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh. Is there a source that is NOT Wikipedia or Wikipedia derived for finding out when a song was released < 1363758968 205058 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1363758970 284770 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good luck finding anything at all not wikipedia derived, nowadays < 1363758984 465627 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :before 2001 people literally had no idea when songs were released < 1363758986 95854 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also you know what also involves taking a pill and death? That short story by Smullyan about epiphenomenalism. Way better. < 1363759011 245117 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because this Wikipedia page about this song that I thought I heard in 1998 claims it was released in 2000 < 1363759011 806780 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: An Unfortunate Dualist? < 1363759021 766652 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google an unfortunate dualist < 1363759023 685458 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://themindi.blogspot.com/2007/02/chapter-23-unfortunate-dualist.html < 1363759026 545776 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, that one. < 1363759031 565505 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Mindi < 1363759036 360128 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is it with everyone in here and fucking smullyan < 1363759041 697648 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Might be another version or a cover or something. < 1363759043 253577 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do think "Suppose you're severely ill. There's a medical procedure that..." is up to their individual choice, but I would want to know an estimate of the choice, what things I was intending to do otherwise, my age, its effect on non-human lifeforms and on the environment in general, etc. < 1363759065 347419 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: have you seen his youtube videos they're so dumb how could anybody not like him < 1363759073 325776 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have not isn't he dead < 1363759075 109804 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have the book written by Smullyan but I was wanting to have them. < 1363759086 85493 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i never! it's entirely platonic < 1363759106 585868 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: somehow, no. < 1363759118 605681 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think he's like 997 though. < 1363759162 945750 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lexande went to a Smullyan talk this year or something. < 1363759251 286722 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, that only works with a belief that the soul does not have write access to the brain < 1363759268 986059 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :er what does < 1363759274 955648 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the soul had write access to the brain, the dualist could know that he no longer has a soul < 1363759276 185648 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :covers? < 1363759284 282435 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1363759303 795765 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the soul has write access to the brain then epiphenomenalism is false < 1363759319 585198 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, yes, it does assume that, that is the point. < 1363759347 665654 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :um Bike. i think you'll find nothing has a point. < 1363759390 715787 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Even a circle with one point missing? < 1363759417 756355 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yes. < 1363759432 418356 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I don't believe in Cartesian dualism; I don't think it makes sense. < 1363759446 145985 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Funny, that story doesn't mention epiphenominalism, just dualism < 1363759469 536156 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, maybe i remember it from smullyan's commentary or something. < 1363759485 186683 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't read past the bolded Reflections < 1363759539 723474 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe in neutral monism, mostly. < 1363759548 936220 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how you can make a two-dimensional bounded shape which is congruent to a subset of itself. < 1363759572 56348 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a triangle? < 1363759586 386676 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1363759592 117013 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should say "proper subset". < 1363759596 921528 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"What distinguishes neutral monism from its better known monistic rivals is the claim that the intrinsic nature of ultimate reality is neither mental nor physical." wow i suck at metaphysics though < 1363759628 566837 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i never metaphysics i < 1363759629 820202 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't agree with all kinds of neutral monism, though; just in general. < 1363759721 727087 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neutral monism in general is, mental and physical are two ways of organizing some "higher things" (I am kind of paraphrasing Wikipedia). < 1363759738 450688 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :'pataphrasing < 1363759777 672051 :md_5!md_5@mcdevs/trusted/md-5 QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1363759812 75778 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is monism like gnomism < 1363759885 25675 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think so?? < 1363759914 397794 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i only said things which i think so would i even say anything < 1363759920 765686 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if someday i will care about metaphysics agagin. < 1363759952 495350 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1363759985 798667 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Well, yes, you can think of things other than only some things, too; it is good to consider and to discuss it and to figure it out. < 1363760004 45408 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, good. < 1363760022 186594 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike more like take a hike < 1363760027 256157 :md_5!md_5@mcdevs/trusted/md-5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1363760031 805780 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dude mean :( < 1363760045 566037 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i work with what i have < 1363760075 696658 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike more like ignore elliott he's mean to everyone we all think you're like cool and stuffike < 1363760125 385624 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see what you're doing you're playing good cop bad cop < 1363760155 767022 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should come to #haskell where we play good op bad op < 1363760160 22650 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :except we're both pretty bad at it < 1363760187 465783 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've banned two more people than shachaf < 1363760201 364639 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott is the macbeth of #haskell and i am the hamlet < 1363760202 107687 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what mean things are you sayig about elliott :< < 1363760203 269847 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"so to speak" < 1363760215 245966 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so who's your uncle < 1363760217 695423 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: elliott is the mean one < 1363760224 975666 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and... well i don't know macbeth really < 1363760234 895513 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think he kills everyone though. that seems elliotty. < 1363760240 852026 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even, this book and that book, are two ways to organize the state of physical matter, which it makes up, even if the books are otherwise identical. < 1363760277 857839 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait am i thinking of macbeth or some other shakespeare person < 1363760305 466685 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1363760308 355715 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1363760334 195525 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i am macbeth who is Bike < 1363760349 187274 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably my favorite shakespeare character, Osric. < 1363760356 586043 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey i played osric once < 1363760370 801091 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No I want to be played by Robin Williams. < 1363760375 762601 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no sorry < 1363760379 555772 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to be played by shachaf < 1363760380 330802 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1363760394 141353 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1363760420 256314 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty sure Bike has to be played by a bicycle. < 1363760420 555987 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're a shakespeare character who's an actor you must be one of the actors in the play Hamlet watches. < 1363760430 916039 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike can be rosencrantz and guildenstern < 1363760437 345813 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe Bike and Fiora < 1363760444 996127 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: In shakespeare's time all the chicks were played by men. This extends to the bicycles. The bicycles are also played by men. < 1363760459 735921 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :All the props are men too. < 1363760468 955731 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The play is a circus of writhing male flesh. < 1363760488 415858 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you got a problem with that............................... < 1363760496 546244 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1363760499 347285 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the stage men < 1363760540 165787 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :who are the men played by < 1363760590 508596 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I'd be a very good actor < 1363760605 214889 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't believe Shakespearian scholarship is advanced enough to ask that question, shachaf. < 1363760605 423375 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yes elliott. The original globe theater was made of peasants. < 1363760605 632209 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :peas ants? < 1363760605 632508 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :: FREE 0 OVER BLOCKFREE! DUP RIGHTBLOCK@ DUP IF DUP BLOCKFREE@ IF DUP RIGHTBLOCK@ ROT 2DUP RIGHTBLOCK! SWAP 2DUP LEFTBLOCK! DROP DUP BLOCKSIZE@ ROT DUP BLOCKSIZE ROT 4 CELLS + + ROT SWAP OVER BLOCKSIZE! DROP THEN THEN (...) < 1363760605 632624 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Forth is so readable. < 1363760605 632735 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that like the woman who cooks carrots and peas in the same pot < 1363760605 632844 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can read every single one of those words. < 1363760606 654440 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Forth looks very exciting. < 1363760613 142057 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :IKNOW! < 1363760616 684091 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And excited. < 1363760618 965905 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: That's OK, you're not playing an actor. < 1363760687 220813 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :<.< < 1363760697 122677 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION pokes shachaf's nose
< 1363760697 660659 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I make the computer, it will be including Forth. Also including BASIC, since many programs in books are written in BASIC. < 1363760708 1911 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: don't you mean pheasanrs < 1363760709 845798 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*t < 1363761096 412487 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: I'm not a very good actor either, I just play one on stage. < 1363761126 196969 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot should have a mode to generate forth programs < 1363761127 125815 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i don't disagree that professors tend to guard their time. i just found. < 1363761174 796344 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot is a ""serial entrepreneur" < 1363761175 96124 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: killer annotated 8676 with " rambaby " lamer" sucks!" at http://paste.lisp.org/ display/ fnord what do you have < 1363761191 176246 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastie.org/6635890 - comments removed because comments are lame. < 1363761220 434870 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: uhh fungot just told you to use http://paste.lisp.org/ < 1363761220 435086 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: at least it's very expensive) workaround to that, but as those fields are used a lot of this stuff < 1363761251 805792 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, well, I don't listen to anything fungot says, because fungot is made of one really long spaghetti noodle. < 1363761252 573765 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: in that it doesn't correspond in some 1:1 way to some known enumeration type correct? its like: if: a b < 1363761272 66116 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow i don't think i've ever seen forth long enough to indent before < 1363761275 686316 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :At first I didn't realize that was fungot speaking, and so I tried to understand what he was saying. < 1363761276 341249 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: sure, understood to mean unzip and look at these... barbarians?? oh, yeh!! first you need to < 1363761307 225287 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhh < 1363761346 392141 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://paste.lisp.org/display/136107 < 1363761349 705942 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: xpln urslf < 1363761349 936353 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: s/ udded/ fnord something like this with good printing formatting will work. he just pointed out < 1363761515 586304 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoops, I forgot. FREE isn't supposed to leave anything behind. < 1363761613 297106 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except freedom, of course. < 1363761968 957259 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn ngevd is not random < 1363761975 443240 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1363761994 515521 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls wisdom/*sz* < 1363761996 415780 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/gaszpacho \ wisdom/szoup < 1363762002 57437 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? szoup < 1363762003 806371 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :A szoup a szilárd tápszereknek híg alakban való elkészítése a célból, hogy könnyebben emészthetők legyenek; a hígító anyag a viz, mely feloldja s magába veszi a tápanyag legértékesebb részeit. < 1363762005 668280 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? gaszpacho < 1363762007 485834 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :gaszpacho is a polish soup, traditionally szerved cold for hot szummer days < 1363762034 695749 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ngevd < 1363762036 530752 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :N��8�+�F)�(�_�5lt�&*L�y�le<�nU�٫�����r��d�q(OxR��Sufn�v#\�!�(mQCǒ�n���ZݶSI�LpZ?��9rh���d¸�g�&��x�<�׳K��W�iB��!���D�|d�K��ԍ�v�#4�-*r�(�bv��j�B:����������^�^49��*�YC�pYQ�3�e�f��~<�m�dP���O��{�E�Q�n�&���T�����՗𔌝@أ9�qlF̚��]C���zƕ�̍&�pEN:������� \ �|Z�F��,ˑ�$[z۠�#}����nh���L�O��C� \ 1�e�]�.b,� < 1363762051 525338 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmph. < 1363762057 88776 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run rm wisdom/ngevd < 1363762060 485944 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1363762088 555773 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn ngevd more like ein gedi < 1363762092 468933 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1363762562 997357 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Modern computer designs are too stupid. Do you think so? < 1363762704 76525 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they work pretty well < 1363762747 742095 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :They work, but that is not good enough. < 1363763179 135826 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`erflist < 1363763180 516044 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.112 JOIN :#esoteric < 1363763183 115905 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: erflist: not found < 1363764162 946997 :carado!~carado@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:221:63ff:fe9a:3747 JOIN :#esoteric < 1363764287 866480 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to eat :(:( < 1363764316 120528 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION gives Sgeo chocolate
< 1363764344 933201 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Long story short, there was a fly in the pasta I prepared so I threw it out. Turns out that was the last bag of pasta afaict < 1363764463 938752 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wuss < 1363764712 376771 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :why throw away a good fly? < 1363764725 576330 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fly away, little fly. < 1363764732 536149 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not just, you know, eat it? < 1363764929 357032 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.112 QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1363764958 177022 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1363765036 37593 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like to eat it? (Maybe you can, if you want to.) < 1363765111 546667 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant that I threw the pasta away < 1363765117 186318 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(incl. fly) < 1363765411 247568 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I know that. < 1363765542 437109 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1363765546 834748 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :All right, so, here's my malloc function: < 1363765618 609791 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1363765642 596242 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :mov eax, 0 < 1363765642 805017 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :ret < 1363765688 772589 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :: MALLOC >R 0 0 HEAP @ BEGIN DUP BLOCKSIZE@ DUP R@ >= IF ROT 2DUP > IF DROP DUP THEN -ROT THEN DROP DUP INVERT UNTIL DROP DROP SWAP DUP INVERT IF DROP DROP RDROP 0 EXIT THEN 0 OVER BLOCKFREE! SWAP DUP R@ 4 CELLS + > IF OVER R@ 4 CELLS + + ROT 2DUP SWAP LEFTBLOCK! DUP RIGHTBLOCK@ ROT 2DUP RIGHTBLOCK! >R ROT R> SWAP R@ - 4 CELLS - OVER BLOCKSIZE! 0 OVER BLOCKFREE! 2DUP SWAP LEFTBLOCK! NIP SWAP R@ OVER BLOCKSIZE! 2DUP RIGHTBLOCK! NIP ELSE DROP THEN 4 < 1363765688 980684 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :CELLS + RDROP ; < 1363765721 812036 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should probably write it in separate lines, and possibly factor into multiple blocks, though < 1363765722 227524 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1363765738 874585 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastie.org/6636240 < 1363765963 882067 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is better. < 1363766049 381061 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My current computer does not supprt VT-x < 1363766050 666324 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1363766209 939952 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They keep doing "market segmentation" with that thing. < 1363766220 623510 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most of it is good; but I still think the definition of MALLOC is too long, and it might help to have comments in the definition of MALLOC as well. That definition of MALLOC would not fit on a single page in BBL Forth. < 1363766311 675856 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :In related news, the cpuinfo "flags" field is getting kind of ridiculous. This computer, for example, supports fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx rdtscp lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good nopl xtopology nonstop_tsc aperfmperf pni pclmulqdq dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx smx est tm2 ssse3 cx16 ... < 1363766317 918862 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... xtpr pdcm pcid sse4_1 sse4_2 x2apic popcnt tsc_deadline_timer aes xsave avx f16c rdrand lahf_lm ida arat epb xsaveopt pln pts dtherm tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority ept vpid fsgsbase smep erms. < 1363766339 623445 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Yes, modern computers designs are too stupid. < 1363766495 946143 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: you should move to a less confusing market segment. < 1363766648 316798 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :errr.... what happened to NxTop < 1363766661 27707 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :XenClient ate it apparently < 1363766742 706169 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yeah. The original version has comments, but I removed them for #esoteric's benefit. < 1363766804 6237 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aw man. My definition turned out to be too long to fit in one command. < 1363766838 554220 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :MALLOC is probably the only one there that needs to have comments, as far as I can see, but it is OK to put comments on the other ones too. < 1363766892 381348 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I find the definition of FREE to be really hard to read *with* a comment every other line. < 1363766951 30818 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Yes, I said, only MALLOC in that code needs comments; FREE doesn't need comments. < 1363767117 797011 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's the version with all the comments: http://pastie.org/6636212 < 1363768732 131506 :ThatOtherPerson!d46b64cb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.107.100.203 JOIN :#esoteric < 1363769233 67546 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1363769741 148951 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found some pasta < 1363770342 427469 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1363770542 138331 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1363770825 678667 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1363771132 297884 :Taneb!d917e6fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.23.230.253 JOIN :#esoteric < 1363772617 970673 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh god there's another subreddit for computer hardware. And apparently its opinions are distinctly different from buildapc's opinions. I don't know which to trust now < 1363772661 898500 :Taneb!d917e6fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.23.230.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trust your hart < 1363772670 188615 :Taneb!d917e6fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.23.230.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trust Adam Hart-Davis < 1363772781 620071 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Tldr bapc is for cutting costs and gapc is for being extravagant " < 1363772821 95885 :Taneb!d917e6fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.23.230.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, it depends on your budget < 1363772835 808833 :Taneb!d917e6fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.23.230.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Based on what I know about your economic position, I'd go for bapc < 1363773414 630820 :ThatOtherPerson!d46b64cb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.107.100.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-_- < 1363773431 879205 :ThatOtherPerson!d46b64cb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.107.100.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of my classmates turned a programming assignment in AS A WORD DOCUMENT < 1363773448 358112 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was it a word macro assignment < 1363773456 952330 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :just trolling, I hope < 1363773479 903948 :ThatOtherPerson!d46b64cb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.107.100.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was a Java programming assignment < 1363773490 501799 :ThatOtherPerson!d46b64cb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.107.100.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and now another classmate did as well < 1363773501 578877 :ThatOtherPerson!d46b64cb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.107.100.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait now it's three < 1363773502 349812 :ThatOtherPerson!d46b64cb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.107.100.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1363773502 573249 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was it crafted to run code when opened by openoffice < 1363773508 638738 :ThatOtherPerson!d46b64cb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.107.100.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1363773510 536926 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you were free to choose the language, doing it as a word macro in a word document might be not entirely unfun < 1363773512 227756 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lame < 1363773585 548868 :carado!~carado@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:221:63ff:fe9a:3747 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1363773597 138690 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1363773610 503593 :ThatOtherPerson!d46b64cb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.107.100.203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have lost my hope in humanity < 1363773637 370179 :ThatOtherPerson!d46b64cb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.107.100.203 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1363773718 468818 :Taneb!d917e6fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.23.230.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ThatOtherPerson: submit it as a Flash file < 1363773763 679535 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :main.gif < 1363773780 628961 :Taneb!d917e6fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.23.230.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :main.bmp < 1363773786 828760 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello.jpg < 1363774146 430235 :Taneb!d917e6fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.23.230.253 QUIT : < 1363774149 878366 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1363774499 600924 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1363775136 738645 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1363778907 893722 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://xkcd.com/1188/ ah, the classic game of throw the ball to yourself and teleport it to your friend who then throws it to himself and teleports it back to you and repeat. < 1363779025 682280 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Until stack overflow. < 1363780104 993155 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1363780442 203293 :[mbm]!~mbm@openwrt/developer/mbm JOIN :#esoteric < 1363780622 525701 :[mbm]!~mbm@openwrt/developer/mbm PRIVMSG #esoteric :>-[<-->+++++]<++.---.+++++++..+++. < 1363780636 752492 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf >-[<-->+++++]<++.---.+++++++..+++. < 1363780637 582436 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1363780662 472820 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome [mbm] < 1363780665 563744 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[mbm]: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1363780755 709066 :[mbm]!~mbm@openwrt/developer/mbm PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, cool. < 1363780810 113490 :[mbm]!~mbm@openwrt/developer/mbm PRIVMSG #esoteric :>+++++[<++++++>-]<+.>>----[<----->--]<+.>++++++++.>.>>----[<->----]<---.>>-[<->---]<-------.>>-[<->+++++++]<.++++++++.>++.+.>>-[<->+++++++]<++.>>-[<->-----]<+.+..++.++++++++++++++++++.>++.>.>>----[<------>+]<.>+++++++++.>>-[<-->-----]<.>>---[<------>+]<-.>++++++.>... < 1363780822 433584 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf >+++++[<++++++>-]<+.>>----[<----->--]<+.>++++++++.>.>>----[<->----]<---.>>-[<->---]<-------.>>-[<->+++++++]<.++++++++.>++.+.>>-[<->+++++++]<++.>>-[<->-----]<+.+..++.++++++++++++++++++.>++.>.>>----[<------>+]<.>+++++++++.>>-[<-->-----]<.>>---[<------>+]<-.>++++++.>... < 1363780822 906109 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :� < 1363780824 252905 :[mbm]!~mbm@openwrt/developer/mbm PRIVMSG #esoteric :bot probably won't like that one. < 1363780828 202297 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1363780837 762667 :[mbm]!~mbm@openwrt/developer/mbm PRIVMSG #esoteric :(gzipped data) < 1363780922 493089 :[mbm]!~mbm@openwrt/developer/mbm PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf +.>>-[<->+++]<-----.-------.+++++.-------.>>++++[<++++++++>-]<.>>-[<->+++++]<--.+.+.>+.+++++++++. < 1363780922 793009 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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. < 1363780927 793373 :[mbm]!~mbm@openwrt/developer/mbm PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol. < 1363780976 852993 :[mbm]!~mbm@openwrt/developer/mbm PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf >-[<->+++++]<----.>>-[<-->-------]<+.+.>>++++[<++++++++>-]<.>>-[<->+++]<++++++.>>-[<-->-------]<-.-----------.+++++++++++.----------------.>++++++++++. < 1363780977 243672 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :/op [mbm]. < 1363780985 992331 :[mbm]!~mbm@openwrt/developer/mbm PRIVMSG #esoteric :*shrug* had to try < 1363781013 223316 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :funny guy. none of our bots have ops anyway. < 1363781066 813731 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most people try bot loops < 1363781075 52771 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :most? < 1363781092 364400 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that's a wee bit exaggerating < 1363781093 653604 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Four or so billion, yes. < 1363781095 693307 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of the people who mess around with the bots trying to get them to behave weirdly < 1363781129 713215 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's cute when they try to crash hackego < 1363781135 252871 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most people who mess around probably mess around with HackEgo? < 1363781135 554652 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah most people try rm -rf / in HackEgo and never manage to achieve anything disruptive at all. < 1363781144 907449 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's kind of more suitable for that than fungot. < 1363781163 670838 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i doubt it. the whole thing, there is a stty command i need < 1363781172 553373 :[mbm]!~mbm@openwrt/developer/mbm PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf >-[<-->-------]<-.++.++++.+.--------.+++++++++++++.>>++++[<++++++++>-]<.>>-[<-->+++++]<++++.+++++++++++.--.+.>>++++[<++++++++>-]<.>>----[<+++++>--]<--.---------------.++++++++++++++.+.-----------.+++++.-------.>>++++[<++++++++>-]<.>>-[<-->+++++]<-----.>>++++[<++++++++>-]<.>>-[<-->+++++]<----.++++.>>++++[<++++++++>-]<.>>-[<-->+++++]<---.++++++++++++.-.++++++++.>>-[<-->+++++]<-.+++++++++++++.+.----------.++++++.-.>>++++[<++++++++>-]<.>>----[<+++++>--] < 1363781173 2679 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly just testing a bf conversion < 1363781185 802742 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it doesn't require you finding a security hole in befunge. although that _would_ be cool. < 1363781207 72496 :[mbm]!~mbm@openwrt/developer/mbm PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, bot dropped the last word < 1363781208 252646 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bt_txtgen mostly just testing a bf conversion < 1363781213 682283 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1363781216 353174 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf_txtgen mostly just testing a bf conversion < 1363781220 784496 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​247 +++++++++++++++[>+++++++>+++++++>++++++++>++<<<<-]>>++++.++.>-----.+.<<+++.>++++++++++.>>++.<<<--.>----.--.>.>.<.---------------.<.+.-----------.<++++.>--.>>.<----.>.<+.<-.>>.<+.<<+.-.++++++++.>>++.<<----.+.>>++++.++++++.-.>----------------------. [641] < 1363781234 533251 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf +++++++++++++++[>+++++++>+++++++>++++++++>++<<<<-]>>++++.++.>-----.+.<<+++.>++++++++++.>>++.<<<--.>----.--.>.>.<.---------------.<.+.-----------.<++++.>--.>>.<----.>.<+.<-.>>.<+.<<+.-.++++++++.>>++.<<----.+.>>++++.++++++.-.>----------------------. < 1363781236 422636 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly just testing a bf conversion. < 1363781247 992450 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :bf_txtgen adds that silly newline. < 1363781258 185024 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :right. < 1363781300 754541 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I suppose fungot didn't drop anything, the program was just truncated due to IRC line length limits. It ends kind of abruptly. < 1363781309 362332 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: oh come on. you had to remove a temporary directory when i'm done < 1363781309 730184 :[mbm]!~mbm@openwrt/developer/mbm PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1363781325 612975 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Yes, I'm always cleaning up after you, it's ridiculous. < 1363781326 213504 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: practice safe eating always use fnord wms. no desktop. sawfish, pekwm and ion are my favourites. you've been really helpful. thanks :) the more references, the literal 2 < 1363781349 562582 :[mbm]!~mbm@openwrt/developer/mbm PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, didn't even know there was an existing txtgen < 1363781427 613545 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The existing one is this one: http://esoteric.voxelperfect.net/files/brainfuck/util/textgen.java < 1363781438 331205 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I think.) < 1363781482 454668 :[mbm]!~mbm@openwrt/developer/mbm PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems to do better than my admittedly braindead tool < 1363781529 992655 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yours seems to have a lot of loops < 1363781563 484703 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :textgen.java has a rather strict format for the generated code, it's always of the form +N[>+A>+B>+C...<<<-] and then a loopless series of ><+-. to output; and the number of "terms" inside the initial setup is fixed and given as a command line attribute. < 1363781577 50134 :[mbm]!~mbm@openwrt/developer/mbm PRIVMSG #esoteric :mine is character driven with a minor optimization to do deltas between characters < 1363781604 554127 :[mbm]!~mbm@openwrt/developer/mbm PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's basically the shortest sequence for any particular character < 1363781673 951347 :[mbm]!~mbm@openwrt/developer/mbm PRIVMSG #esoteric :alternate version builds up a string in the bf cells < 1363781679 73063 :[mbm]!~mbm@openwrt/developer/mbm PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf >----[<+++++>--]<-->>-[<-->+++++]<->>-[<-->---------]<+>>----[<+++++>--]<-->++++++++++>[-]<<<<<[.>] < 1363781679 523113 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :test. < 1363781684 582892 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i noticed you used loops that require wrapping cells < 1363781719 522335 :[mbm]!~mbm@openwrt/developer/mbm PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, the alternate version uses a max of two cells < 1363781860 714714 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1363782018 995674 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1363782237 130519 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : intel cpus are powered by the ghosts of murdered silicon -- buy amd! < 1363782298 493697 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, it all makes sense now. our VLSI chips aren't just alien technology... they're made from _actual_ aliens! < 1363782356 483685 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :this explains why the aliens don't want to make official contact, too < 1363782638 64893 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1363782688 423948 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah sunlight < 1363782729 904259 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is about lunchtime, oerjan < 1363782738 345872 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're not THAT far north < 1363782746 646795 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i just ate < 1363782831 583175 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just about solstice (i saw something about nowruz on wp today, i think that's at solstice) so i doubt it'll be dark even at the north pole < 1363782845 993580 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, not solstice < 1363782849 563378 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*equinox < 1363782875 94599 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's solstice today or tomorrow < 1363782911 254427 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it would be tomorrow, given wp _didn't_ say it was today < 1363782921 614546 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The requinox. < 1363782997 123903 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equinox table says March 20th, 11:02 UT, which should make it today. < 1363783005 443885 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway the sun shines through the window right behind my laptop, and it was getting overly hard to read even with the drapes shut < 1363783021 464171 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1363783048 185646 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :this happens just as i come to the discussion about glasses in the logs < 1363783065 696827 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm afraid the universe might be giving a hint there. < 1363783084 354371 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are those thingies with the boxes that describe algorithms < 1363783084 562697 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Flowcharts! < 1363783084 562870 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone know any good flowchart-drawing software? < 1363783134 113741 :[mbm]!~mbm@openwrt/developer/mbm PRIVMSG #esoteric :ditaa? < 1363783154 962258 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[mbm], I don't recognize you < 1363783180 442955 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've drawn a couple of flowcharts with that JGraph-driven thing; also with the online draw.io thing, which is built on mxGraph, which is related. < 1363783206 644568 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :[mbm]: that reminds me, we need to ask some essential newbie questions. (1) do you happen to live in Hexham? < 1363783216 683710 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, like http://www.websequencediagrams.com/ < 1363783229 623814 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter PRIVMSG #esoteric :or http://www.asciiflow.com/#Draw < 1363783230 353734 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or is it called Diagramly. I forget exactly. < 1363783250 604288 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The application version at least had all kinds of fancy autolayout/routing stuffs in it. < 1363783257 43727 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter PRIVMSG #esoteric :or http://ondras.zarovi.cz/sql/demo/ < 1363783289 104269 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter PRIVMSG #esoteric :or Graphviz, http://www.ffnn.nl/pages/articles/media/uml-diagrams-using-graphviz-dot.php < 1363783306 973909 :[mbm]!~mbm@openwrt/developer/mbm PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: no, not unless there's a joke in there that I'm missing < 1363783307 276183 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently at least www.diagram.ly == draw.io now. It's all so confusing. < 1363783311 593579 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :draw.io looks pretty cool < 1363783326 903998 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And of course for the special case of UML, there's bazillion solutions of various degrees of enterpriseness. < 1363783355 757787 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :[mbm]: the joke is that hexham is a very small place in England which nevertheless has two regulars in our channel - who don't know each other in real life < 1363783385 644524 :[mbm]!~mbm@openwrt/developer/mbm PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1363783399 304373 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Despite having pretty much the same tastes and are roughly the same age < 1363783420 253878 :[mbm]!~mbm@openwrt/developer/mbm PRIVMSG #esoteric :have they since met irl? < 1363783420 854510 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok (2) do you happen to live in Finland? < 1363783429 131283 :[mbm]!~mbm@openwrt/developer/mbm PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope. < 1363783441 94213 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[mbm], they refuse to, for the safety of the universe < 1363783447 229573 :[mbm]!~mbm@openwrt/developer/mbm PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1363783450 364158 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's been a while since anyone answered in the affirmative to those two questions. < 1363783473 334632 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok (3) (i think this is the last one) do you want to be on the homestuck list? < 1363783496 363663 :[mbm]!~mbm@openwrt/developer/mbm PRIVMSG #esoteric :explain < 1363783537 513833 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you don't know of "the list" already, i think it's best left without explanation… < 1363783542 626155 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :every time there is a homestuck comic update, Sgeo runs the ^list command to tell people < 1363783553 26692 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: no, that's the _other_ list. < 1363783559 624680 :[mbm]!~mbm@openwrt/developer/mbm PRIVMSG #esoteric :figures as much; get enough spam as is < 1363783614 336787 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there used to be even more, but they were wiped out (how will i now know when oots updates?) < 1363783673 4079 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, it hasn't. < 1363784035 802891 :[mbm]!~mbm@openwrt/developer/mbm PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/03/you-bought-it-you-own-it-supreme-court-victory-common-sense-and-owners-rights < 1363784216 12423 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1363784443 965095 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : I like how you can make a two-dimensional bounded shape which is congruent to a subset of itself. < 1363784447 545395 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait what < 1363784467 584149 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds fractally < 1363784510 784489 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"congruent" implies same size, afair < 1363784524 131364 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that sounds _really_ weird. < 1363784575 665113 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm < 1363784589 404069 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe he's abusing the fact that subset isn't necessarily strict subset < 1363784611 704831 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, he explicitly clarified that he didn't < 1363784661 645130 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm maybe some vitali construction on the circle... < 1363784726 15436 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1363784743 274684 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i expect whatever this construction is, it shall need the axiom of choice somewhere < 1363784780 735636 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1363784807 405108 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1363785109 734689 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh http://mathoverflow.net/questions/82416/a-set-of-points-congruent-to-its-proper-subset gives an obvious example: { e^(i n) | n natural } < 1363785177 534656 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not very AC-y :P < 1363785234 814652 :[mbm]!~mbm@openwrt/developer/mbm PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, somehow I was thinking more http://www2.stetson.edu/~efriedma/packing.html < 1363785289 345665 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1363785358 804426 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"tan"? < 1363785384 316486 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :never seen that term before < 1363785418 364970 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that squares in squares case rings a bell < 1363785431 484618 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tan as in sin/cos? < 1363785435 864880 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1363785509 325188 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :by the pictures, tan as in equilateral triangle, possibly with equal catheters < 1363785512 86274 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1363785517 764856 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not equilateral < 1363785522 125517 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :right triangle < 1363785569 645569 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, pretty sure i've seen the squares in squares subpage before < 1363785707 865500 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar CYUL < 1363785708 165390 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 201300Z 27006KT 10SM -SN OVC012 M05/M07 A2970 RMK SC8 SLP060 < 1363785719 705013 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. still -SNing. yeeeeah... < 1363785738 716781 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :neither wikipedia nor wiktionary mentions it < 1363785769 684358 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Perhaps it's related to "Tan (goat pattern)". < 1363785777 785238 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: a supernova in your weather report is _not_ good, i'll just say < 1363785815 154625 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: SKEPTICAL < 1363785857 394662 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: goats are mathematical objects. < 1363785872 490431 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Square_packing_in_a_square < 1363785977 634669 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony JOIN :#esoteric < 1363786007 105358 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Circle packing in a square is, apparently, not serious business. < 1363786022 315588 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Circle packing in a square is a packing problem in recreational mathematics -- Recreational mathematics is an umbrella term for mathematics carried out for recreation, self-education and self-entertainment, rather than as a fully serious professional activity." < 1363786039 374870 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Square packing is totally notable < 1363786073 174730 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently even Erwhat wrote a paper on it! < 1363786107 825635 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :more like Er-douche, right < 1363786119 285877 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dear ive started a meme < 1363786123 499502 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the 13 circle pattern is beautiful. < 1363786128 605372 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1363786130 605390 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: I'M SORRY < 1363786147 425666 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it's ok. it's not your fault < 1363786151 73064 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I blame jafet < 1363786264 715238 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone recommend me a unit-testing thing for C? < 1363786276 590307 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: huh http://www2.stetson.edu/~efriedma/cirinsqu/ has a much uglier pattern than wikipedia, but the same number < 1363786285 984833 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: here's a nickel, get a real language < 1363786314 580181 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro, I have a real language, just I'm challenging myself not to use it < 1363786316 395265 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1363786395 225080 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: (also my joke is that er-douche is probably about as close as a native english speaker can get to the real pronunciation) < 1363786455 815171 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(disclaimer: this may wildly misrepresent how native english speakers pronounce anything) < 1363786477 226122 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you heard native english speakers speak english < 1363786494 775865 :impomatic2!~digital_w@211.25.113.87.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Quit: http://about.me/john_metcalf < 1363786523 355400 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't erdos like erdoosh but with the oo kind of closed at the back, like an ee < 1363786551 879621 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: all I'm thinking about when perusing those packing patterns, is how ikea could benefit (or is alreding doing so) from that. < 1363786569 417246 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1363786590 14715 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: just write them and offer your consultancy < 1363786612 274670 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: the o from erdős is a front rounded vowel, [ø]. < 1363786625 615772 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1363786656 465167 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I'll as my friend who's working there. < 1363786668 384985 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(btw, we're going to have the largest ikea in north america. MWAH AH AH AH AH!) < 1363786669 225603 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't IKEA the one that nobody actually owns < 1363786708 912682 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably it's owned by swedes < 1363786714 230697 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so yes, because they're not real people < 1363786742 137185 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: is the «oe» in «oerjan» also pronounced [ø]? < 1363786802 36440 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony JOIN :#esoteric < 1363786810 415626 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Makes one wonder how close the Er-douche ő is to the Finnish ö. Wikipedia seems to suggest that it's pretty close; the difference between IPA /ø/ and /ø̞/ is supposedly rather small. < 1363786838 315996 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :merriam-webster's audio sample makes it sound like erdursh < 1363786918 607527 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :/ø/'s page says it's the vowel that a South African English speaker puts in "bird". < 1363786962 85174 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: heh < 1363786990 155755 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I actually *can* pronounce it because I know French phonetics < 1363787015 224888 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :We need to go around telling south africans they should pronounce "bird" like the second vowel in "Erdős" < 1363787112 445566 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1363787983 676815 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: it's short, and wikipedia seems to think that's [œ], at least in "standard eastern norwegian" (which isn't my dialect, but i don't know that my own pronunciation of that sound is that different). the long version is [ø]. < 1363788024 465683 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :* [øː] < 1363788085 398012 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have both phonemes, so I can mispronounce it either way. < 1363788129 595380 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ø KAY < 1363788629 330032 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1363788836 746668 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay so it turns out that the life and career of stephen wolfram actually makes for a p. good tragedy if framed the right way < 1363789018 335781 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Remember that weird SK calculus interpreter I wrote < 1363789025 34937 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The C version is going well < 1363789092 649256 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird in what sense < 1363789128 45446 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Weird in that it stores the Ss and the Ks in an integer < 1363789134 90938 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Using Cantor's pairing function < 1363789172 296471 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1363789189 380913 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :couldn't you just use a regular tree serialisation!! < 1363789201 349438 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah < 1363789476 256067 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.168.16 JOIN :#esoteric < 1363790319 576576 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think ais523's spam measures _might_ be failing. < 1363790347 313739 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is a possibility < 1363790526 867698 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: doit < 1363790647 318094 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck doit < 1363790647 526933 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :doit definition: an old Dutch coin equal to about ^^^1^^^D^^8^^ stiver. < 1363790753 676607 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are those old dutch numbers there < 1363790771 537355 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1363790933 267677 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah, just someone trying to make 8^D smiley while high < 1363791228 495645 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's a "stiver" < 1363791238 697348 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1363791240 576806 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~suck stiver < 1363791241 28732 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- Possible commands: dice, duck, echo, eval, fortune, metar, ping, yi < 1363791243 606975 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck stiver < 1363791244 188537 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The word stiver is derived from the Dutch Stuiver. < 1363791255 554096 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of them < 1363791282 340587 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck stuiver < 1363791282 550316 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The stuiver was a pre-decimal coin used in the Netherlands. < 1363791304 747830 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck netherlands < 1363791305 48086 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Often called Hol�land A country of northwest Europe on the North Sea. < 1363791310 618028 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck europe < 1363791310 826693 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The sixth-largest continent, extending west from the Dardanelles, Black Sea, and Ural Mountains. < 1363791314 477764 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck continent < 1363791314 686709 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :continent definition: exercising continence. < 1363791327 8023 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The sixth-largest continent < 1363791331 928253 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe at that point < 1363791333 507358 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck monads < 1363791333 827317 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monad definition: unit, one. < 1363791347 207709 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we may stop using the adjective "largest" < 1363791351 497344 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and go with "smallest" < 1363791363 31018 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Europe isn't a continent at all? Eurasia is < 1363791363 607654 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many continents are there now? < 1363791372 615939 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :9 < 1363791377 47629 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that depends on your definition of a continent AnotherTest < 1363791389 897243 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :9? like the planets? < 1363791400 671279 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(seriously, 9?) < 1363791405 719491 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :y < 1363791407 468358 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there may or may not be more definitions of "continent" than there are continents according to any of them. < 1363791434 127040 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continent < 1363791439 168959 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eurasia, Africa, North America, South America, Antarctica, Oceania < 1363791439 621736 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :welll I'm guessing most people's definition of "continent" are enumerations of continents < 1363791445 399374 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't spot europe on that map < 1363791450 3020 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just see eurasie < 1363791453 87771 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :*eurasia < 1363791454 688857 :impomatic2!~digital_w@31.185.189.137 JOIN :#esoteric < 1363791461 948295 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would you put Europe and Asia together, but split america? < 1363791473 327514 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest, it's animated and switches back and forth < 1363791501 117955 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen, the border between the Americas is tiny compared to the Eurasian border < 1363791501 326753 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen: America isn't split either? < 1363791506 517231 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen, do /you/ know where the line between europe and asia is? < 1363791513 157839 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest, it's an animation < 1363791513 366592 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1363791514 454723 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the oural < 1363791516 979671 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it shouldn't be < 1363791517 578280 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: um you realize that map is an animation < 1363791524 391248 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1363791536 89166 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm talking about the frame with 5 continetns < 1363791540 719456 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :*continents < 1363791552 612840 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: at least that's what they used to say before that eurasia shit hit us < 1363791569 800863 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The narrowest meaning of continent is that of a continuous[6] area of land or mainland, with the coastline and any land boundaries forming the edge of the continent." < 1363791587 295292 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: in that case Africa-Eurasia is only one continent < 1363791596 545114 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest, so... the Isle of Wight is a continent? < 1363791597 155695 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen, oh, a fairly low mountain range that doesn't even correspond to a geopolitical border? < 1363791608 769320 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1363791619 608950 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rockall is a continent? < 1363791625 132341 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and both Russia and Turkey would be split between two continents < 1363791763 66601 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually in dutch we have the difference between "continent" and "werelddeel" (what you seem to be callling a continent) < 1363791768 179369 :impomatic2!~digital_w@31.185.189.137 NICK :impomatic < 1363791801 706703 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest, is one of those what I would call "landmass"? < 1363791834 153485 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :"continent" (Dutch word, not the English word) would be landmass < 1363791846 511624 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And there is the problem < 1363792047 653372 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: land mess < 1363792123 909241 :dbelange!yevunye@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :"incontinent" < 1363792180 199601 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/user/EliezerYudkowsky < 1363792183 857960 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1363792188 83719 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/math/comments/1al5n5/really_overwhelmed_and_frustrated_my_concerns_are/c8ysc20 < 1363792197 313440 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :honestly cannot tell if this is a parody account from this comment < 1363792272 837422 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that looks pretty serious < 1363792278 755625 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the last parenthetical is too true < 1363792346 65782 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's suspiciously similar to the 'oh i can't do maths, it makes no sense' thing < 1363792396 423365 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :A line heard only from students and mathematicians. < 1363792449 172919 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-148.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :~ duck duck < 1363792449 462504 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- Possible commands: dice, duck, echo, eval, fortune, metar, ping, yi < 1363792458 507838 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-148.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck duck < 1363792458 763626 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :duck definition: any of various swimming birds (family Anatidae, the duck family) in which the neck and legs are short, the feet typically webbed, the bill often broad and flat, and the sexes usually different from each other in plumage. < 1363792531 261179 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see how understanding Python code makes you a good programmer though < 1363792578 92513 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's like saying "if you can prepare an egg, you're a great cook" < 1363792593 409593 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :or "you will be a great cook" < 1363792616 366501 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest, he's saying that it means you have the possibility of being a great cook, and if you can't prepare an egg, you'll never be able to be a good cook < 1363792650 756981 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :EliezerYudkowsky is the real one as far as anyone knows < 1363792666 901811 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I'm not sure about that either. People might be confused at first, but later sort it all out < 1363792690 360889 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, AnotherTest < 1363792699 307484 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Away with this frequentist rhetoric. < 1363792709 987042 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ability is a function of innate genius only, don't you know < 1363792735 43353 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you can't understand something within 5 minutes you're a useless impostor < 1363792822 240463 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel like a useless impostor now for not understanding every decision made in the Tor design right now < 1363792831 743557 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :in 5 minutes that is < 1363792845 818796 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it like checkout < 1363793154 46798 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so even someone who has never seen an egg in his life might be considered to have the ability to prepare an egg? < 1363793170 547431 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if it takes him more than five minutes to figure out the shell is not edible < 1363793184 628984 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moron < 1363793204 869036 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, if for example, this person has never seen an egg before it was to be prepared by this person himself < 1363793223 378528 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can I request we remove a few layers of sarcasm and talk about something else < 1363793230 487538 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I guess he can still make hard-boiled eggs < 1363793246 109980 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just not boil them an make raw eggs of course < 1363793249 68302 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :*and < 1363793273 857951 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you're saying anybody can be a cook < 1363793282 763519 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I'm not saying that < 1363793317 521652 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anybody who can hold an egg for five minutes without letting it break on the floor or being eaten by a kitten < 1363793326 699323 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1363793333 312518 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :and who has access to a source of eggs! < 1363793358 278610 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1363793366 997545 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :forget not, that one cannot boil an egg that is not present! < 1363793374 805764 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :(at least not AFAIK) < 1363793385 841037 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, i don't want to think about what would happen if we ablated off more than a couple of layers of sarcasm < 1363793559 17819 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck ablative < 1363793559 326335 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In grammar, ablative case is a case in various languages that is used generally to express motion away from something, although the precise meaning may vary by language. < 1363794685 299087 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1363794814 589417 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1363795554 398007 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1363796251 99671 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.168.16 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1363796661 1326 :impomatic!~digital_w@31.185.189.137 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1363797090 139432 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.114.149.18 JOIN :#esoteric < 1363797465 900467 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know < 1363797491 380963 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Effects EDSL is a very cool thing < 1363797764 655121 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :What’s that < 1363797991 309906 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes, you can get pretty far in that sort of thing without the axiom of choice. < 1363797991 610484 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1363798219 24173 :sirdancealo2!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1363798316 570221 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if anyone was wondering < 1363798330 109720 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the new soprano spam page on the wiki is definitely *not* proper french < 1363798360 452943 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in fact it's hardly readable at all) < 1363798362 130486 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Next up, you can make an uncountable bounded shape which is congruent to a subset of itself. < 1363798376 183105 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's the same idea.) < 1363799834 834659 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, Loughborough studying Computer Science and Maths, or Newcastle studying Maths < 1363799844 249045 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What advice would you give < 1363800425 153731 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not terribly sure I like the interaction paradigm frameworks of this "Feedly" thing. < 1363800461 965578 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: The struct held his beloved integer in his strong, protecting arms, his eyes like sapphire orbs staring into her own. "W-will you... Will you union me?" < 1363800571 488612 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION SEGFAULT: Too many buzzwords: `interaaction paradigm frameworks'
< 1363800682 665843 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1363800859 300634 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sweet. “Beetle Juice - A Minecraft Roller Coaster” http://youtu.be/afcudstM9zA < 1363801215 933375 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sweet < 1363801234 152214 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some of my friends made a big coaster back in beta 1.8, but it wasn't anywhere near as arty < 1363801312 283141 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpMRGzdSM5s < 1363801525 585084 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's longer now, but parts of the extensions don't work < 1363801658 6206 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1363801716 41577 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :taneb: Cool < 1363802261 585399 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, there's a Loughborough university? < 1363802272 7428 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...there's a place called Loughborough? < 1363802276 634825 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, yes < 1363802283 649323 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's got good sports and engineering < 1363802338 820628 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Loughborough_University%27s_Coat_of_Arms.svg < 1363802349 571519 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like how hard that coat of arms is trying to look Olde < 1363802544 769251 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have no actually useful advice, though < 1363802593 632470 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck advize < 1363802593 915313 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1363802598 203995 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck advice < 1363802598 581464 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :advice definition: recommendation regarding a decision or course of conduct. < 1363802952 397220 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1363803169 981287 :Mathnerd314!~quassel@palevsky-223-221.rh.uchicago.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1363804059 784152 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask ais523 can you look at the newest wave of spam pages? looks filterable < 1363804060 36410 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1363804141 358910 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, if I go to Loughborough, it will increase the esoteric migration to the midlands < 1363804167 802855 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :better than northumberland! < 1363804179 683902 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not really, the midlands are scary < 1363804186 84862 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The horizon is too low < 1363804197 684747 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1363804218 572480 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just stay close to the buildings and don't look up much < 1363804234 560571 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(either way, my first choice is York, I'm just deciding my insurance work) < 1363804296 843067 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :did birmingham fall through? < 1363804305 628533 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I didn't like it < 1363804315 564127 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wasn't for me < 1363804320 488295 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :understandable < 1363804413 381984 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Newcastle is a much nicer offer, but it's barely away from Hexham < 1363804424 594706 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And also, no computer science < 1363804449 439118 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the center of mass of this channel? I weigh ~150 lbs, and I'm at FN35EM (maidenhead locator). < 1363804467 175271 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd say somewhere in the north-east atlantic < 1363804477 603672 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, what're the conditions for york vs. loughborough? < 1363804536 698972 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :York is AAA, Loughborough is AAB < 1363804583 155505 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can get an approximation from /who * + geoip of all locations + averaging. (Just remember to average actual points and not some globular coordinates.) < 1363804598 627755 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck, how do you average spherical coordinates < 1363804676 842664 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you find the centroid in R^3 then project it onto the sphere, i guess < 1363804759 12796 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: One way is to take a unimodal parametric distribution supported on the surface of the sphere (like the von Mises-Fisher), maximum-likelihood estimate the parameters, and then get what that gives. < 1363804774 862485 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was afraid of that < 1363804781 112798 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what I do (except for two dimensions) for the hue in gcolor/fcolor. < 1363804802 715987 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :too complex. < 1363804809 227395 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bessel functions of the first kind < 1363804816 123625 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :much way too complex. < 1363804817 448444 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't my method work... < 1363804827 336563 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's too complex, I said! < 1363804836 198671 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1363804876 427575 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can do what PH suggests, too. (Perhaps they're equal for some family of distributions?) < 1363804947 831465 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok. lessee what happens with /who * < 1363804995 591485 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(fcolor uses the Wikipedia-listed approximation of kappa, I think.) < 1363804999 644307 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: what if the centroid in R^3 is... THE CENTER OF THE EARTH < 1363805006 50527 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. it just returns a bunch of «[#esoteric] Phantom_Hoover (~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486) H 0 (Phantom Hoover)». < 1363805019 642067 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, in this case, unlikely < 1363805028 495540 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1363805030 347002 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I forgot about freenode and cloaks. < 1363805057 445058 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, in a real IRC network you could do that. < 1363805062 673677 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone is «H 0», except some like nortti who a «G 0». < 1363805069 496006 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here, or Gone. < 1363805071 617533 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, i think in that case the average isn't well-defined < 1363805080 974375 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I ue XenClient, I won't be able to run VirtualBox, will I? < 1363805100 330429 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: you can, you just have to tweak a parameter in your VM config file. < 1363805102 19235 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i'm just guessing < 1363805112 113613 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, o.O ? < 1363805127 678692 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm at approx 42.364537,-71.102614 if that helps < 1363805146 34538 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm at ~0,55 iirc < 1363805164 169196 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I may be confusing VirtualBox and VMware Player together, but to run a virtualised system inside a virtualised system, you have to explicitly enable that. < 1363805196 449098 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :55�57',3�11' < 1363805212 785952 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps 8m above MSL < 1363805213 381976 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, huh, but there is an option that can be enabled. Cool < 1363805262 146077 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I don't need elevation yet, not launching any ICMBs at anyone, but thanks anyway. it may come handy sometime... < 1363805278 897680 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :intercontinental missiles ballistique? < 1363805301 886427 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Actually, now that I look at it, the mean direction parameter of the von Mises-Fisher is the mean in R^3, normalized. I just do the concentration parameter estimation because I use the "directivity" of the distribution in the weight function. < 1363805303 710745 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/MB/BM/, says I. < 1363805304 566564 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Intercontinental Magic Bananas, Phantom_Hoover < 1363805389 628375 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm somewhere around 60.2N 24.8E. < 1363805465 341230 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm to the east of the middle of Hexham < 1363805557 252756 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is near ~34N/118W?
< 1363805585 376069 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the drones are on their way to your houses < 1363805587 691547 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :please stand by < 1363805601 941516 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Though as the question was about the center of mass, I'm not sure how averaging spherical coordinates is relevant; the center of mass is not going to be on the sphere. Unless we're all in the same point.) < 1363805638 761152 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are we doing btw < 1363805658 461282 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily wanted to know the center of mass of #esoteric, presumably for some good and proper reason? < 1363805662 80750 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :finding out where the average esolanger is < 1363805679 611779 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :won't you need to know peoples' masses too for that? < 1363805682 784005 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if he wanted to know the centre of mass then projecting the centroid is obviously the right way to go < 1363805720 104510 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Why would you project it anywhere? < 1363805760 253949 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.112 JOIN :#esoteric < 1363805767 764870 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: that's why I stated that I weigh around 150 lbs. < 1363805774 429203 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am ~2500 miles from where I was last week and ~700 from where I'll be next week. < 1363805783 653574 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: indeed, it is to find the average esolanger. < 1363805787 730014 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: I was thinking of an approximation, assuming identical weights. < 1363805797 539206 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm the average esolanger < 1363805801 244792 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I thought it was canonically established that the average esolanger is in Hexham, Finland. < 1363805817 234283 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So boily's statement is 100% accurate if you're elliott < 1363805823 323505 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Alternatively, the average esolanger is probably suffocating somewhere deep underground.) < 1363805843 410236 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is about 45kg if you need that, I guess
< 1363805846 484170 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, so THAT'S what cpressey's up to! < 1363805878 332903 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1363805883 344233 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: is this the kind in Taphophobia or in < 1363805884 631927 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1363805892 400022 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey Phantom_Hoover what was that chapter called < 1363805900 284084 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you guys just get a girl to tell her weigh? < 1363805902 316000 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh Failure Mode < 1363805909 321917 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen: stfu < 1363805930 325888 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1363805935 664067 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, er, right, that's only for finding the average < 1363805937 162379 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I volunteered it, slly :p < 1363805940 654686 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*silly < 1363805948 10245 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what you think < 1363805955 640875 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I guess you could project it if you want to know where to start digging. < 1363805969 865777 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, also crushed underground < 1363805976 827197 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what to type in Wolfram|Alpha in order for it to compute the maximum depth that a direct line between (the center of) Finland and Hexham attains, even though I'm sure that is a number it can compute. < 1363805998 93807 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: you could also say that chris has been........ presseyd < 1363806008 105381 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I guess that counts < 1363806010 495629 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(please, someone, give me a blunt object to hit me with) < 1363806014 194266 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: omg < 1363806029 747954 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google distance from finland to hexham < 1363806031 317350 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.distance-calculator.co.uk/world-distances-oulu-to-hexham.htm < 1363806031 526373 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: Travel Distance between Oulu, Finland & Hexham, Great Britain (UK) - Find out ho ... < 1363806037 951299 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :good web page < 1363806048 929062 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I remember using a point averager thing to find the perfect place for a Hexham/Helsinki meetup < 1363806052 228352 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was in the sea < 1363806059 916994 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't know crows fly between Finland and Hexham. < 1363806061 553842 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds perfect. < 1363806115 36913 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how W|A gives distances in terms of speed of light in optic fiber. < 1363806132 295418 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it's telling you the meeting should be on a ship? < 1363806134 586259 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1363806138 52905 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Well, it's the "direct travel times assuming constant-speed great-circle path" table, not the actual result.) < 1363806142 766371 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it was maybe telling us not to bother < 1363806201 704908 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not everything has to be about shipping, Fiora. < 1363806205 311182 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"midpoint between Hexham and Helsinki" computes [ line segment | endpoints (1,5) | (5,-4) | midpoint ], for some reason. < 1363806214 674566 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*pfff* < 1363806217 414520 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's (3,0.5). < 1363806260 34562 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, after edwardk said something in #haskell-lens, I now ship tables/acid-state < 1363806272 148768 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Purely by eyeballing, the midpoint on the great-circle path it plots on the map would be quite close to Sweden's coast, but it could be in the sea. < 1363806285 883763 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thaneb < 1363806322 652468 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :your welcomelliott < 1363806661 189512 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1363806762 641698 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: hi, could I please get your coordinates and body weigh? < 1363806784 110635 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1363806981 562933 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy.. its for the greater good.. < 1363807044 778760 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im sure < 1363807084 705175 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good evening < 1363807147 468601 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's trying to calculate the center of mass of the channel apparently < 1363807220 614070 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :TWIST: monqy is the center of mass of the channel < 1363807262 209313 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION contributes with (Stockholm, ~65kg)
< 1363807268 794630 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is no channel but #esoteric and monqy is its centroid < 1363807378 259220 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hexham, ~60kg < 1363807526 74011 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? monqy < 1363807537 908808 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The friendship monqy is an ancient Chinese mystery; ask itidus21 for details. < 1363807559 315193 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? #esoteric < 1363807561 739624 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#esoteric? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1363807580 899081 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn #esoteric is the only channel that exists. monqy is its centroïd. < 1363807588 244383 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1363807614 301716 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? d-modules < 1363807618 386188 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? itidus21 < 1363807622 525127 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :D-modules are just modules over the ring of differential operators. Taneb invented them. < 1363807624 564821 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21 just made some instant coffee. < 1363807634 597094 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is itidus21 still alive < 1363807643 244994 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently < 1363807651 412893 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Given that he just made some instant coffee. < 1363807660 712846 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty sure hell has instant coffee too < 1363807664 344523 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sooooooooooo < 1363807672 808023 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :instan coffee doesn't proove nothing. it's not even coffee. < 1363807858 139701 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-176.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1363807898 764160 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah! another vict^H^H^H^Hhappy volunteer! < 1363807910 300841 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: hi, could I please get your coordinates and body weigh? < 1363807939 354069 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't do it Bike < 1363807948 880709 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily is trying to make a voodoo doll of you < 1363807956 77114 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey didn't you tell me to do it < 1363807961 587162 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's with this turnaround!!!!!!!! < 1363807966 569021 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: are you Bike < 1363807985 975230 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: shush! you're interfering with the experimental protocol! < 1363807990 643587 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-176.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if he is, i must have already given him my coordinates and body weight. < 1363808000 580829 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: no monqy refused < 1363808019 348683 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :even when i said its for the greater good....................... < 1363808019 986361 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, I don't have shachaf's coördiweights. < 1363808032 982181 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: what's with the ö < 1363808047 81479 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you trying to sweet-talk me with diæreses < 1363808059 336045 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: subliminal messages. you shouldn't have noticed them. < 1363808063 148306 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn sweet-talk < 1363808063 816693 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*** "sweet-talk" wn "WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)" < 1363808064 27111 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sweet-talk < 1363808064 27315 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : v 1: influence or urge by gentle urging, caressing, or < 1363808064 27472 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : flattering; "He palavered her into going along" [syn: < 1363808064 27580 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : {wheedle}, {cajole}, {palaver}, {blarney}, {coax}, {sweet- < 1363808065 723999 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : talk}, {inveigle}] < 1363808071 466516 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck sweet-talk < 1363808071 753595 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sweet-talk definition: cajole, coax. < 1363808088 1226 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yes, indeed. < 1363808116 648999 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-176.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good job monqy. you're a credit to your race. the bicycle race. < 1363808117 938334 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :12:03 shachaf: you do love your diaresis in english words :P < 1363808121 70611 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you aristid < 1363808712 638768 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.168.16 JOIN :#esoteric < 1363808759 263393 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe third time. let me try another pitch... < 1363808808 89358 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: hi there, you fine gentleman. how's the weather today? would you mind to lend me your cöördïnäẗës and your body weigh, if you would mind, please? < 1363808822 117442 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(shachaf: watch the power of ultra diæreses.) < 1363808828 955105 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ülträ < 1363808850 332153 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :yltreh? < 1363808852 528364 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ülträ dïæ̈rësës < 1363808871 312242 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.168.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Edegem, Belgium: Mostly cloudy, 2°C (36°F). Wind chill: 2°C (36°F). Winds: calm. Dewpoint: 1°C (34°F). Relative humidity: 96%. Pressure: 1012 mb (29.89 in) (⇑). Visibility: 10.0 km (6.2 mi). Station: IANTWERP1. Updated: March 20, 8:45 pm CET. Alerts: 08◼  Snow/Ice. < 1363808872 68920 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.168.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1363808886 392537 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :coördinate seems to be the right way to write it < 1363808895 845872 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wooooah. that is some nifty formatting. < 1363808905 283605 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :cöordinate < 1363808909 419488 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: um wheres teh body weight < 1363808912 381209 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*theh < 1363808916 684425 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.168.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i weigh 1012 mb < 1363808917 330863 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*hhhhhh < 1363808944 149820 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.168.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i literally don't know my body weight tbh < 1363808954 206023 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :body weight is for losers with bodies < 1363808954 994205 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo < 1363808961 684639 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :belgium < 1363808962 704264 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :silly corporeals < 1363808985 631181 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: I'll note edegem, and about 150 lbs. < 1363809010 667884 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if i could estimate monqys body weight < 1363809016 607684 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good luck < 1363809022 770934 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont even know it < 1363809024 786566 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.168.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i had to guess: juuust under 60kg (130 lbs) < 1363809026 936592 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: How's about your weight? Or is that a too personal question? < 1363809027 382613 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: if you have tcp/ ip back when it used to listen on all interfaces not so long ago < 1363809035 218591 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder how much i weigh these days < 1363809038 436285 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it used to be like 40 kg < 1363809053 980401 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know my body weight < 1363809074 459015 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.168.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric :was that when you were 12 elliott < 1363809075 615129 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :although i know what it was 3.5 years ago?? because i have a card that says it < 1363809087 958261 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: that was when i was like 13, 14 < 1363809104 15095 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :close enough < 1363809105 210259 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it used to be 25kg < 1363809112 322516 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the last kg body weight i remember < 1363809133 834981 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have eight entries, and none of you supplied me with the same format for your coordinates. gj. < 1363809144 793199 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :TIL Unicode has Mathematical Operators: Invisible Operators < 1363809152 679768 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.168.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wow it's only... 52 kg wow < 1363809154 665999 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.168.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm skinny!!! < 1363809168 640836 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats a lot of kgs < 1363809177 977745 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I've mentioned those once. < 1363809180 410721 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont know what weights mean < 1363809188 56687 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION used to weigh 3.8 kg
< 1363809189 604314 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're not just mathematical -- there's also 2060 WORD JOINER [] < 1363809198 526781 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i know of these < 1363809201 677934 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I am still the smallest here < 1363809203 72231 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i did not know about INVISIBLE TIMES < 1363809208 47513 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval 52 / 0.45359237 < 1363809210 530696 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Error (1): < 1363809211 648032 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but wow esoteric is like all skinny people < 1363809213 667745 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i used to way 0 kg < 1363809215 741659 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :when i didnt exist < 1363809215 961942 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval 52 / 0.45359237 < 1363809216 258980 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :114.64037633613634 < 1363809219 200228 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow did i just... < 1363809220 42520 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: i'm not skinny!! < 1363809220 787337 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :typo weigh as way < 1363809234 547288 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, iinm kg is a unit of mass, not weight < 1363809235 297661 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc is one with the planet < 1363809245 176756 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.168.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: 1 kg is the mass of the International Prototype Kilogram hth < 1363809249 460206 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can never remember what iinm means < 1363809253 740354 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc is made out of degenerate matter < 1363809257 839586 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: if I'm not mistaken < 1363809261 170199 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so he weighs about 6e24 kg < 1363809273 113688 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.168.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sqrt(-1) * inch * meter < 1363809291 508967 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :with a height of about 13k miles?? < 1363809292 386887 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i also don't know what masses mean < 1363809300 697420 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the prototype kilogram is not in an inertial reference frame!! < 1363809306 832204 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"May you live in invisible times." (An old Chinese proverb.) < 1363809317 40748 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :++ < 1363809322 341222 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-176.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank god < 1363809332 306226 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.168.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: force over acceleration :-) < 1363809339 232625 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: bad < 1363809340 245337 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about 2061 FUNCTION APPLICATION [] < 1363809345 33424 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo ghc should support that one < 1363809349 614396 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :UnicodeSyntax < 1363809356 302677 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1363809379 793474 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should it be like a synonym for $? < 1363809402 261541 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you can already define it?? < 1363809412 817610 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, someone has english.pm and *isn't* using it as a perl documentation site? < 1363809415 728318 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone-- < 1363809427 194513 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let (⁡) = ($) < 1363809427 406276 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Illegal character ''\8289'' < 1363809430 991706 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ffffuuuuuu < 1363809455 902714 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you meant $ in Haskell and not $? in Perl, though. < 1363809459 468403 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is .pm < 1363809467 327507 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :perl module hth < 1363809498 87229 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-176.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh what is the nature of this character, is it just a zero width space < 1363809515 497628 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has buddha nature < 1363809518 127598 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.168.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's to make stuff like "f(x+y)" properly parsable < 1363809532 366904 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.168.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. "is it the function f applied to x+y, or a number f times a number x+y?" < 1363809536 533363 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-176.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1363809551 995298 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's invisible so it doesn't get in the way < 1363809565 48209 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happened to unicode not encoding shit like that < 1363809574 962580 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-176.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the unicode committee happened? < 1363809583 855603 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.168.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love unicode < 1363809615 996833 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :function application much less important than "pile of poo" or cat faces < 1363809627 452383 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well thats just because of emoji import < 1363809634 733721 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo people complaining about the emoji import are dumb < 1363809652 387571 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :in elliotts o people are dumb < 1363809778 161552 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.168.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but theres < 1363809779 657610 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.168.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dominos < 1363809780 454818 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.168.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1363809804 345714 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :your password must contain: two numbers, two punctuation, two Yijing hexagrams, two invisible mathematical operators < 1363809812 794028 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :two ancient greek musical notes < 1363809838 973609 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Is this one of those games where the requirements uniquely specify one password? < 1363809851 383935 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1363809855 34743 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should make a website with a password requirement like that. < 1363809855 249191 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a thing < 1363809859 40145 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like a Mystery Hunt puzzle < 1363809862 937669 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not as far as I know. < 1363809867 108106 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I think you should, if you can < 1363809879 260835 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, if you want to < 1363809881 863393 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.168.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"your password must match the following regexes:" < 1363809906 166574 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :"your password is abc123" "confirm your password:" < 1363809951 297511 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have 30 minutes to confirm your password or it will be towed at owner's expense < 1363809966 811537 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, bonus if you can make it look like there are many < 1363809971 625601 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(oh, and the forgot your password? page would just list everyone's password (i.e. print abc123)) < 1363809976 174810 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And all the requirements seem sensible < 1363809982 994331 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: do it < 1363810007 332728 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :password satisfies requirements when preceeded by its quotation < 1363810037 714913 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-176.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :your password must match the following regexes <-- oh, did you see the mystery hunt regex crossword? i still haven't finished it < 1363810043 836707 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did see it < 1363810047 247211 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.168.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i finished it a couple weeks ago < 1363810049 268429 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you see the solution in 30 lines of Haskell < 1363810050 957556 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :using Z3 < 1363810051 751304 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.168.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i made my own little thingy too! < 1363810056 180941 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"30 lines of Haskell and 300,000 lines of C++" < 1363810071 78541 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.168.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me look for it < 1363810084 19500 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you see ion's solution < 1363810085 612869 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.168.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was smaller and had a much tinier alphabet ([abcd]) < 1363810088 250515 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: no < 1363810093 750598 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.168.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i solved it manually fuck all of you < 1363810097 384834 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is Z3 named after http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z3_(computer) < 1363810104 208950 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's kind of an awesome name for a theorem prover < 1363810135 161657 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/ekmett/ersatz/tree/master/examples/regexp-grid < 1363810164 212495 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :22 bit word length??? < 1363810165 880733 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-176.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was thinking of writing something up to solve it but i figured it would be more fun to do it manually < 1363810178 214294 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-176.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then i got like 70% of the letters filled in only to realize i'd made a mistake < 1363810181 245204 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-176.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :such is life. < 1363810184 324846 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i used Yices to win at pub trivia once < 1363810190 754563 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.168.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok imma make my puzzle into a html thing < 1363810191 9895 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :This? Cool, hadn’t seen it. https://gist.github.com/LeventErkok/4942496 < 1363810198 508546 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.168.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i don't know if it's actually solvable! it probably is < 1363810206 163741 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the one i saw < 1363810217 836256 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.168.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's probably even too many clues < 1363810248 650070 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-176.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably < 1363810278 607747 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone know where i can buy 2,000 relays on the cheap < 1363810304 139905 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: http://www.digikey.ca/ < 1363810306 82089 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dont talk about drugs in #esoteric kmc < 1363810334 645644 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, if you're willing to PM I know a guy < 1363810340 10311 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh really Taneb? < 1363810341 508363 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe later < 1363810342 185090 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah < 1363810348 485853 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm making the same joke as elliott < 1363810350 534627 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1363810352 882970 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry < 1363810366 525510 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was going to make a joke about radio shack but your jokes are better < 1363810378 459494 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty sure the punchline was just going to be "radio shack" anyway < 1363810387 447586 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there was something called Silk Road where you can buy relays with bitcoins? < 1363810403 633611 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: is radio shack a real place < 1363810413 6882 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: do you not have radio shack in uk < 1363810413 718268 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I think there's one in Gateshead < 1363810415 129570 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: radio shack doesn't exist anymore. < 1363810421 289970 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :A Radio Shag. < 1363810423 93274 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-176.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: http://www.theonion.com/articles/even-ceo-cant-figure-out-how-radioshack-still-in-b,2190/ < 1363810429 864502 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought my solution was slow, but the one in the gist says it takes 7 minutes. :-) < 1363810438 218391 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-176.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i think i remember reading about the illicit relay trade in soviet academia once < 1363810446 12570 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/solution/solver/ < 1363810453 226929 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Does your solution also prove uniqueness? < 1363810457 11453 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: nope < 1363810469 53753 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: The one in the gist says it takes 7 additional minutes to do that as well. < 1363810571 410329 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :We don't have any Radio Shaqs in Finland, but there's some national electronics chains that I think are kind of bit of similar? (Like Yleiselektroniikka.) < 1363810581 440900 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-176.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good name < 1363810593 710896 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It means vaguely something like "general electronics". < 1363810608 207 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-176.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but i has yl in it which is not a digraph i think i've seen initially before < 1363810623 993218 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :radio shack still has a not entirely terrible selection of hobbyist / DIY electronic stuff < 1363810635 519739 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yleinen, ylin, yllättävä, ylpeä, ... it's kind of common. < 1363810637 313385 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you can make it to the back without someone trying to sell you a mobile phone < 1363810657 250230 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think YE sells any mobile phones. < 1363810673 508773 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yliesierikoisapulaisvaravaurioraivausvuorovarausratkaisupäällikkö < 1363810682 397624 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hyfinate yliesierikoisapulaisvaravaurioraivausvuorovarausratkaisupäällikkö < 1363810687 706562 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that a thing < 1363810696 615073 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :~hyfinate yliesierikoisapulaisvaravaurioraivausvuorovarausratkaisupäällikkö < 1363810696 863303 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- Possible commands: dice, duck, echo, eval, fortune, metar, ping, yi < 1363810701 263533 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo … | hyfinate < 1363810701 690446 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck it < 1363810702 446763 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, it should be < 1363810703 306169 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was also a shop called RadioDuo around when I was young, they were perhaps even more hobbyist/DIY-oriented. YE's kind of professional place. < 1363810710 786553 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo yliesierikoisapulaisvaravaurioraivausvuorovarausratkaisupäällikkö | hyfinate < 1363810712 418537 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it wasn't a thing then HackEgo would still print something. < 1363810714 180394 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1363810715 264395 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :y-lie-sie-ri-koi-sa-pu-lais-va-ra-vau-ri-o-rai-vaus-vuo-ro-va-raus-rat-kai-su-pääl-lik-kö < 1363810720 99656 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hyfinate will utterly fail with that one, though, since it’s a compound word. < 1363810735 278524 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's it mean < 1363810751 335516 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo yli-esi-erikois-apulais-vara-vaurio-raivaus-vuoro-varaus-ratkaisu-päällikkö | hyfinate < 1363810753 147029 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :y-li-e-si-e-ri-kois-a-pu-lais-va-ra-vau-ri-o-rai-vaus-vuo-ro-va-raus-rat-kai-su-pääl-lik-kö < 1363810782 636044 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently you can do the word separations manually. < 1363810790 126141 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-176.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pääls stick together < 1363810816 911415 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone has translated it. http://forums.nexuswar.com/viewtopic.php?p=243480&sid=136cdf7b3a8634e1fc95ef9a27d8d256#243480 < 1363810817 739377 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :la la la la < 1363810868 863522 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've heard the lentokonesuihkuturbiinimoottoriapumekaanikkoaliupseerioppilas one before. < 1363810890 827617 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also kolmivaihekilowattituntimittari is allegedly a word with real-world use. < 1363810905 246803 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION loves his French, short, simple words
< 1363810907 207574 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Three-phase kilowatt-hour meter.) < 1363810929 199752 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :donaudampfschifffahrtsgesellschaftskapitän < 1363810999 329670 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should write that kolmivaihe-kWhm instead < 1363811000 847872 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of my favourite German words is "entgegengegangen", especially when written in script by hand. < 1363811020 278569 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatsit mean < 1363811054 528156 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's one of their two-part verbs, entgegen/gehen, except inflected. < 1363811057 323762 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, not far from ngengengengeng < 1363811061 841505 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: "minimum" is pretty good to write in script by hand. < 1363811082 721278 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.168.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://dl.dropbox.com/u/15495351/regex.html < 1363811085 500217 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.168.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric :have puzzle fun!! < 1363811087 364937 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But English can hardly hope to compete here. < 1363811165 900867 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1363811175 761354 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've forgotten most of my German, but the base verb is something like "to go to meet [someone]", or "to go towards". < 1363811187 187365 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then it's some past tense of that. < 1363811196 558145 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1363811206 322111 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it means something like "gone against" < 1363811213 825543 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They have a "ge-" prefix for some of those, that's where the "ge" in "gegangen" comes from. < 1363811224 277403 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Funny how the show instance for () is strict < 1363811234 908491 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rather than just ignoring its argument < 1363811240 871845 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"to go toward(s), to approach , (um jdn zu treffen) to go to meet (fig) [einer Gefahr, dem Tode, der Zukunft] to face" says a random dictionary for entgegengehen. < 1363811261 476638 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Entgegen itself is kind of like against, toward. < 1363811282 77355 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm confused. do you go against, or towards? < 1363811328 95089 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you know, you go against ("in contrary direction") someone, if you go towards someone who is coming to meet you. < 1363811337 571610 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're not opposites. < 1363811347 426177 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1363811352 844757 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: You’ll need to add some content to the s for all browsers to render the boxes.   perhaps. I think there’s also a CSS property you can use alternatively. < 1363811356 281100 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/entgegen has different meanings for the preposition and the adverb < 1363811370 96653 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: aaaah, it's more clearer that way. < 1363811373 409699 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.168.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yikes < 1363811375 811111 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.168.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does it break on < 1363811398 136135 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Every empty td. < 1363811408 516488 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.168.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i mean, which browser(s) < 1363811414 546862 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least my Firefox. < 1363811438 956790 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and my IE < 1363811440 778956 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :19.0.2 < 1363811441 31176 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.168.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric :try now < 1363811444 242634 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and my sword < 1363811459 519459 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Works now. < 1363811461 951104 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well empty td's in general) < 1363811472 294261 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :No  s needed with the ones with numbers in them, though. < 1363811488 693167 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.168.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric :'course not. i'm just lazy < 1363811508 727877 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.168.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric :replaced by   < 1363811770 628599 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: btw, how did you make that weather report? I'm thinking about adding something similar to metasepia. < 1363811784 559989 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.168.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a weather bot in another channel < 1363811790 810751 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh. < 1363811822 415116 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :German compound verbs are kind of silly. Like that entgegen/gehen, it's split as "Ich gehe [...] entgegen.", but in the pluperfect tense it goes back together, with the auxiliary verb taking the place of the main verb bit, becoming something like "Ich war [...] entgengengegangen." (Disclaimer: only studied Germany for like a couple years in high school, forgotten most of it.) < 1363811845 66356 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Where the [...] says where you're actually going.) < 1363811897 951092 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.168.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd want to use something like http://www.worldweatheronline.com/free-weather-feed.aspx < 1363811973 646255 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, you should buy a commercial weather data feed. < 1363811993 93547 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :E.g. http://corporate.foreca.com/en/products/forecaweatherapi/ for FINNISH PRECISION-GRADE WEATHER. < 1363812002 249651 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :much better to just grab what's available from NOAA's NWS FTP. < 1363812002 490963 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Various product packages are available! < 1363812008 444543 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I have a friend who works there.) < 1363812027 371004 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't get a commission.) < 1363812056 866708 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :precision-grade? < 1363812084 324872 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Doesn't it sound impressive? < 1363812128 209783 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like AIRCRAFT GRADE TITANIUM except MORE PRECISE. < 1363812204 632284 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I've updated my Chromium, and I have a keyword search thing for google (so that "g foo" google-searches for foo) except now the SoSmartItHurtsBar has decided that the first alternative is to do a Google search for "g foo", and then there's a pile of history, and only at the bottom is the keyword bookmark thing. < 1363812215 548422 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :For "wp foo" it goes to Wikipedia search immediately. < 1363812250 513170 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there some kind of priority setting to make what I want more preferrable? < 1363812307 928681 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also why is the history bit full of things that don't have either "g" or "foo" in them?) < 1363812335 96056 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it searches on history contents and stuff too < 1363812383 594516 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I suppose the *page* does have "foo" as a substring, there's that. < 1363812387 848261 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And at least one g. < 1363812409 882999 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it's called Omnibox, not SoSmartItHurtsBar. < 1363812420 150727 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'd like a bit more stupider address bar. < 1363812459 479837 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's also ten gazillion search engines in the "manage search engines" list, I suppose it auto-populates that as I come across sites that can search for things? < 1363812552 716022 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mhm, well, I made my "g" search the default selection, and now it seems to behave better. (Something had also made it "g_" instead. And there's a pile of other duplicates where there's www.example.com and www.example.com_ with slightly different URLs.) < 1363812569 14424 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: Does that crossword have a unique solution? < 1363812576 36316 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.168.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i believe it does < 1363812586 648233 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is "that crossword has a unique solution" one of the clues? < 1363812603 131923 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.168.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm. yeah < 1363812715 411330 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.168.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know if it'll help though < 1363812744 297346 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.168.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i'm loving the idea of that "clue" being necessary to solve one of these < 1363812753 826754 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's see. < 1363812764 215171 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only clues that refer to square 4 are 1A and 4D, right? < 1363812803 643809 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1363812840 375884 :WeThePeople!~WeThePeop@unaffiliated/wethepeople JOIN :#esoteric < 1363812923 960703 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.168.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1363812947 107635 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.168.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh i see what you're doing < 1363812954 86819 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And all 1A tells you is that row 1 starts with A, and all 4D tells you is that column 4 has two As. < 1363812977 772505 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.168.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's clever. it's valid imo! < 1363812982 69455 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If neither of these tells you anything about square 4, then you don't know anything about it. Therefore square 4 should be A, unless I'm wrong somewhere. < 1363812989 923464 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it solvable without that sort of thing? < 1363813023 842135 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.168.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should be < 1363813042 392296 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, hmm. < 1363813049 800434 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, I'm just saying nonsense. < 1363813055 26948 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.168.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but feel free to use this kind of logic, i approve of it < 1363813058 215631 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90-rdmsoft [XULRunner 1.9.0.17/2009122204] < 1363813061 156969 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or am I? < 1363813071 456841 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1363813135 958730 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moreover the fact that it's solvable uniquely must mean there's only one other A in the column. < 1363813424 948789 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you didn't write the puzzle with that fact in mind. < 1363813479 431715 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I can't figure out whether square 6 is A or D. < 1363813483 796974 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which probably means I made some mistake. < 1363813522 596861 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd imagine that "this puzzle has a unique solution" cannot possibly be necessary information, because if the puzzle is _really_ unsolvable without it that means it is false... < 1363813561 530728 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm maybe if it's one of those self-referential meta-logical things < 1363813635 179557 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.168.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: probably my bad < 1363813636 238608 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it could be uniquely solvable with help from that statement, but has multiple solutions otherwise < 1363813662 288039 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: but how can that possibly be true? < 1363813679 379951 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: I have: ADDA␤ABBC␤.CBB␤BCBA < 1363813685 398890 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where the . is [AD] < 1363813701 12823 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I don't know, by using some kind of logic on it perhaps < 1363813708 60601 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-176.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn that logic < 1363813708 731995 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.168.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric :both are valid, yeah. i need to remove one of the diagonal 6 options < 1363813719 203733 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.168.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also, everything else is correct) < 1363813777 401508 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: it could not be ordinary logic afaict < 1363813790 225220 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: Poulet! < 1363813793 82315 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1363813814 632284 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: maybe the puzzle has a square that has to be filled in with how many solutions it has < 1363813824 165901 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Can you figure out a metapuzzle way to make it work? < 1363813829 772120 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :when i become world dictator i'll make it illegal to talk in a phone within earshot of other people that aren't participating. hth. < 1363813856 492470 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ooh, maybe < 1363813868 666650 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what if you're talking in russian though < 1363813873 955182 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still illegal? < 1363813879 89660 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: perhaps i could if the housemate wasn't frying my brain with his phone talk. < 1363813884 93314 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it might be more interesting to make it illegal not to participate < 1363813898 146004 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-176.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many correct answers does this question have? hint: at most one < 1363813918 4562 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: ½ < 1363813925 545826 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because that answer is only half true (there is actually 1 answer) < 1363813937 347049 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: i'm not interested in making it interesting, i'm interested in giving people some peace and quiet. Also: snooze buttons will be illegal. < 1363813946 869084 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-176.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah zero isn't a fixpoint < 1363813948 753438 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-176.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :woe < 1363813965 852927 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you want to give me some peace and quiet and also deprive me of snooze? < 1363813984 50536 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-176.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan that's terrible. oerjan for antipope < 1363813987 779661 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would you want to give people peace and quiet? < 1363814005 342693 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan is a hippie < 1363814010 488317 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: if you don't need to get up when the alarm rings you shouldn't have set it to that time hth < 1363814012 538467 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know someone who declared himself antipope a few years back < 1363814013 306780 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not the protesting kind, because that's too loud < 1363814023 309048 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what if I do have to get up at that time but don't want to. < 1363814034 761659 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: imo elliott makes a good point < 1363814047 687477 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :He later experienced something very similar to a layman's idea of quantum immortality after being hit by a car < 1363814067 494022 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1363814070 791906 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that another way of saying he died < 1363814075 31296 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: then do what i do, turn off the alarm. it's not like you'll want to get up when the next alarm goes off either. < 1363814122 486354 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you don't understand. i have to pretend to myself that i am a functioning person who can get up. < 1363814166 914297 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :my alarm clock has some maximum number of snoozes, after which it just turns off the alarm entirely < 1363814225 375837 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: ok that's clever. maybe i'll allow _1_ snooze. < 1363814240 189084 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.168.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i fixed the issue in a pretty interesting way < 1363814244 711796 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.168.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric :down 1 is now < 1363814245 150468 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.168.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(.)(?!.+\1)[^B]+.* < 1363814268 374906 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's easier to only have an off button < 1363814294 87448 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.168.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which forces it to be D < 1363814305 37889 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: I already closed my file... < 1363814307 845371 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're serious about not getting up you might as well not interrupt your sleep every 9 minutes < 1363814330 556979 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I have to remember how lookahead works. < 1363814335 997536 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-176.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many correct answers does this question have, hint at most zero < 1363814338 385771 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.168.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric :me to < 1363814339 865767 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.168.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1363814348 299653 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait is this another regexp crossword? i solved the other one that was linked the other day, that was fun. < 1363814356 836528 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.168.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a small cute easy one < 1363814360 313524 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just schedule three or so alarms with longer-than-9-minute intervals, and in the morning turn off as many as I need. < 1363814368 397694 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: Did you change the other letters at all? < 1363814372 357167 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.168.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't < 1363814378 657695 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.168.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/15495351/regex.html < 1363814409 535510 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: Also you should specify that there's an implicit ^$ around every clue. < 1363814442 111510 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.168.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, i didn't bother mentioning that because it's how the mit puzzle hunt one works as well < 1363814446 73513 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.168.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should, though < 1363814469 250034 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: Does this solve the ambiguity? < 1363814472 609800 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.168.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does < 1363814472 851602 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You only changed 1 down? < 1363814481 214223 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.168.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric :irb(main):008:0> r.match('AADB') < 1363814481 503578 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.168.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=> # < 1363814481 724763 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.168.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric :irb(main):009:0> r.match('AAAB') < 1363814481 724940 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.168.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=> nil < 1363814498 406873 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it does. < 1363814499 532477 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.168.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric :where r is that down 1 clue. < 1363814506 606595 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used perl -pe and forgot that it always prints. < 1363814530 220614 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo you should get rid of the lookahead because who even remembers how that works < 1363814541 707374 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I don't actually care since I've solved it. < 1363814546 911741 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.168.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no the lookahead is beautiful < 1363814558 740269 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.168.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo i should make more clues silly things like it < 1363814574 384760 :AnotherTest1!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1363814597 809629 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo go for it i guess < 1363814601 196098 :kallisti!~eris@168.28.136.16 JOIN :#esoteric < 1363814601 428894 :kallisti!~eris@168.28.136.16 QUIT :Changing host < 1363814601 429047 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1363814610 654560 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo you should make more clues depend on "this has a unique solution" < 1363814619 115547 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.168.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that's fun < 1363814623 238154 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and figure out the issue oerjan pointed out < 1363814626 796119 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: *sigh* i need to import that into a paint program to annotate it... which would be easier if it were actually a picture format... < 1363814633 433650 :Bike_!~Glossina@63-229-130-176.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1363814641 961776 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Just do it in a text file like I did. < 1363814650 262789 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-176.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1363814663 790142 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.168.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric :print it out? PrtSc? < 1363814691 656497 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1363814697 12459 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.168.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/b9U64y0.png use this? < 1363814719 307507 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I kind of cheated my way to figuring out that the 12th square is a B. < 1363814726 896323 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was probably an honest way to do it. < 1363814739 453065 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the search space of nooodls crossword small enough to brute-force < 1363814740 590870 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :guessing yes < 1363814754 458395 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.168.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric :4^16 = 4294967296 < 1363814754 688225 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 4^16 < 1363814756 95154 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : 4294967296 < 1363814756 894156 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.168.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"go for it???" < 1363814776 77260 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also called "32 bits". < 1363814776 411947 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :absolutely\ < 1363814805 480525 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: thanks < 1363814812 400435 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott is so hardcore he won't even prune the tree < 1363814838 405817 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: "Tree"? I think you just uint32_t u = 0; it. < 1363814857 554854 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then write some bitmask tests for the clues. < 1363814870 107533 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Writing those bitmask tests is more work than solving the puzzle. < 1363814881 809220 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.168.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's also a fun way to spend time though < 1363814919 7136 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It gets more annoying when people introduce lookahead. < 1363814920 596608 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.168.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric :write a "4-length-ABCD-string" regex -> bitmask converter < 1363814966 685992 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 4^4 < 1363814968 210260 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : 256 < 1363815010 341420 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.168.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, not just length 4. the diagonals are shorter < 1363815013 768639 :Bike_!~Glossina@63-229-130-176.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1363815053 617542 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-176.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i wonder if there's a cool way to do it with automata < 1363815141 957299 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :a new kind of crossword puzzle < 1363815254 217834 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :++ < 1363815430 598122 :AnotherTest1!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PART :#esoteric < 1363815609 428247 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1363815627 751925 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we know column 4 contains 2 As, and a C or a D in its second row < 1363815722 741032 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, fuck it < 1363815762 249555 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1363815763 250264 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :most of the boxes contain one A, B, C or D < 1363816058 679154 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there are some +s in those regular expressions that are meaningless, except perhaps psychologically implying that there ought to be more than one. < 1363816083 279151 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :E.g. I think A+.* and A.* would describe the same languages. < 1363816089 443560 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i thought so too < 1363816131 688486 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: wait i was assuming there was exactly one letter in each box :P < 1363816164 778555 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Yes. < 1363816165 26596 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1363816183 588247 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :X+.* might as well be X.* < 1363816312 555791 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh my, what a silly assumption! < 1363816693 665201 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The guy in the video that I'm watching is saying that the anti-static bag is "non-conductive material" < 1363816816 759688 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: that's the opposite of reality, isn't it? IIRC anti-static bags are as conductive as possible < 1363816816 967722 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1363816820 18692 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1363816820 226810 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott asked 3h 32m 40s ago: can you look at the newest wave of spam pages? looks filterable < 1363816842 68857 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, the guy is going on a rant about it < 1363816876 950230 :Lymia!~moe@108-205-143-75.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1363816877 249185 :Lymia!~moe@108-205-143-75.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Changing host < 1363816877 457998 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1363816914 329615 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :He has a video called anti-static mythbuster < 1363816917 299450 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This should be interesting < 1363817011 949905 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think what's going on is he hears myths "It's bad to put electronics on top of an anti-static bag because the bag is conductive", sees and tests that no harm comes from it, then decides that it's "the bag is conductive" that is the problematic part < 1363817071 481153 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTGar7aoLDs < 1363817247 173788 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf i've made an error < 1363817305 420057 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan's first ever error was thinking he made an error. < 1363817309 199452 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I've installed a filter that catches and automatically blocks every spambot we've had recently < 1363817313 975987 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and should have few false positives < 1363817350 219413 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the filter is hit, the user who hits it is taken to a page that looks like a submit edit form, with a warning not to submit; the submit button blocks them < 1363817363 192972 :WeThePeople!~WeThePeop@unaffiliated/wethepeople QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1363817364 540817 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i see lots of spam on the wiki < 1363817376 127699 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I know, did you see the message from elliott? < 1363817385 880153 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, you assume that people actually read. < 1363817386 999892 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been configuring the spam filter to try to automatically deal with it < 1363817396 809749 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: well if there's a user acting like a spambot and not reading messages < 1363817398 79205 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1363817410 949938 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're indistinguishable from a spambot anyway < 1363817411 971511 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wants to see this warning
< 1363817422 916274 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: http://esolangs.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Abusefilter-spambotlike-warning < 1363817429 634187 :WeThePeople!~WeThePeop@unaffiliated/wethepeople JOIN :#esoteric < 1363817469 490632 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-176.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't get those instructions. go me < 1363817503 80063 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: what don't you get about them? < 1363817563 435568 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-176.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"please make an edit elsewhere..." "There is a button on this page to submit the edit". "this page" implies it should be the abusefilter page, to me < 1363817585 195817 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: that message shows on the top of an edit page < 1363817587 142936 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :normally < 1363817593 279348 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're seeing it out of context because you aren't a spambot < 1363817609 79057 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-176.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1363817633 909507 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-176.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well then wait, it tells me to go edit another page, but then don't save "that edit" < 1363817640 11294 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-176.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :where what you mean to say is don't save /this/ edit < 1363817711 920169 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I see < 1363817740 489462 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: better? < 1363817755 269281 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-176.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, i think so < 1363817762 849698 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Instead of watching this video I''m going to go read < 1363817798 201417 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-176.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :still seems a bit overcomplicated, non-fuckedimage captchas i see are usually more like "what's the next number in this sequence", but i'm not an admin, so i dunno how well that works. anyway brb vampirism < 1363817809 80125 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: we have captchas < 1363817810 934147 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :people get past them < 1363817813 130569 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm attacking two regularities in the spambots' posting: a) they always try to edit their userpage first, b) they seem to be using some sort of wikitext generation library that uses
tags in a way that humans rarely use < 1363817817 866698 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that warning only shows if you do suspicious things < 1363817877 610304 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the current way to trigger it is to use a sequence of
tags with no surrounding whitespace, in your first edit ever, to a userpage, and have no newlines anywhere in the page < 1363817889 734631 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :most humans will use \n\n for paragraphing, not

< 1363817944 100359 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the sort of page with markup complicated enough to want
will almost certainly contain paragraphing or headings elsewhere on the page < 1363817955 179703 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even without the "new user" restriction, I don't think we get false positives < 1363817981 689858 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: do you mind if i make the warning more red < 1363817986 856669 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: no < 1363817989 479654 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am just wary about giving people a block themselves button like that < 1363817994 468973 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :since they might not notice the warning < 1363817999 705896 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tend to not make warnings too colorful because then they hit my mental ad blocker < 1363818003 811493 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they can also appeal on their user talk page < 1363818014 559576 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :finally, we have a log of things that hit the filter < 1363818023 281076 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db4fd89.pool.mediaWays.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1363818026 662373 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Special:AbuseLog < 1363818030 876252 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so we can check for false positives manually < 1363818035 949763 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well, I've made it red < 1363818037 889539 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :we'll see < 1363818155 589651 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: i keep reaching a contradiction D: < 1363818212 780307 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :one possible thing: those regexes are meant to match the _whole_ line, aren't they? < 1363818247 918001 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1363818251 9629 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :he said so earlier < 1363818293 350251 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made a solve, and submitted it to the TEACHER a moment ago. < 1363818294 249290 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, oerjan isn't talking about the spam filter < 1363818302 779797 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the question was reasonable in that context too < 1363818303 158772 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's possible I misthinked something. < 1363818320 699966 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw < 1363818321 679613 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?title=Gothlaw_The_Witching_Hour_The_Bitchin_Hour&action=edit&redlink=1 < 1363818325 499726 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone please make this spam title esolang < 1363818326 159700 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1363818356 249615 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"And yes, we will talk about about these Fleshlight. Nothing was heard about her Fleshlight from one of the most confusing things in our lives. I continue to worry that the new fleshlight Girls." < 1363818397 809850 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :That looks hard to write an interpreter for. < 1363818503 478571 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Bitcoin Hour < 1363818527 302688 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that like the Dark Hour is persona 3? < 1363818552 726712 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :at midnight, time stops and everyone turns into bitcoins < 1363818566 148499 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and bitcoin scammers and hackers roam the streets and steal your wallets < 1363818571 443959 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :salvia trip idea: everyone turns into bitcoins < 1363818582 746776 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*in persona 3 < 1363818667 729599 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :When you hit the P switch, all bitcoins turn into blocks, and then you can jump on them. < 1363818893 913046 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1363819102 709748 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: the one you solved, was it with 1 down being (.)(?!.+\1)[^B]+.* which i think was a final change? < 1363819296 890703 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I think so. It was that .png version. < 1363819304 379733 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1363819508 802981 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: to be precise, i interpret that clue as "there cannot be an A in the last two rows of the first column, nor a B in the second row of the first column < 1363819529 379855 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if you have either of those, that might explain it < 1363819665 980083 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have an A in the last two rows, nor a B in the second. < 1363819677 594151 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1363819701 219978 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And I interpret it the same way. Though you spoiled the top-left corner!) < 1363819718 268291 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1363819727 849966 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it wasn't precisely a hard corner to find :P < 1363819730 379735 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I spoiled the whole puzzle already. < 1363819866 360163 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.112 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1363820000 914378 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b722f.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1363820325 11533 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: you don't have D,B,C down the second column do you? (that's what i get as a contradiction) < 1363820391 418678 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, the B above the C < 1363820478 878662 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I liked the old 1↓ clue better. < 1363820565 750671 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait what < 1363820576 479670 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1363820587 45103 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Did you use the clue that there's a unique solution? < 1363820591 503493 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what i just asked fizzie was a misreading < 1363820593 879482 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: no < 1363820841 679736 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did not use that clue either. < 1363820865 69818 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And no, I don't have DBC in the second column. < 1363820882 830648 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Use: /last ␤ to see my solution. < 1363820941 511207 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe I do have DBC there and can't read my mousewriting. < 1363820975 550218 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(How's DBC in 2 down a contradiction?) < 1363820985 100808 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's good, because i realized that wasn't an error anyway. i must have messed up 2 down and 2 diagonal at some point. repeatedly. < 1363821063 730316 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Come to think of it, dbc hasn't been around in a while. < 1363821082 260762 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps he's been stuck in 2 down all this time. < 1363821086 260451 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it works! < 1363821155 172826 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :same as shachaf < 1363821173 160565 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you didn't use my nifty extra clue. < 1363821190 330274 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i have a D instead of your period. < 1363821203 400514 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, i didn't. < 1363821211 841025 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's because you're using the new 1↓ clue. < 1363821219 959343 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was using the old one, which left it ambiguous between A and D. < 1363821231 609779 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1363821274 632325 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :food -> oh, and laundry -> < 1363821736 703474 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1363822081 980616 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree with you folks there. < 1363822111 430856 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except mine is done in https://dl.dropbox.com/u/113389132/Misc/20130320-regexsol.png HIGH FIDELITY. < 1363822135 631221 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.168.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoops, i was gone for a while < 1363822159 180810 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.168.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie's solution is correct < 1363822545 230346 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott.............. < 1363822642 287127 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………… < 1363822975 330905 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :16:52:42: oerjan: Next up, you can make an uncountable bounded shape which is congruent to a subset of itself. < 1363822978 859927 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :16:52:56: (It's the same idea.) < 1363822983 580531 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :still without the axiom of choice? < 1363822989 358493 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep. < 1363822994 440857 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i guess as long as it is zero measure < 1363823085 680937 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm < 1363823112 150501 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :{r*e^(in) | 0 < r < 1, n natural} < 1363823119 720736 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(duh) < 1363823122 401992 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep. < 1363823141 370529 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but can you manage with just the unit circle? < 1363823156 351833 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.168.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha my brother walked in on me staring at this regex puzzle a couple of minutes ago < 1363823163 789839 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.168.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he asked, "what's that, a sudoku?" < 1363823164 782172 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.168.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is now < 1363823191 911640 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.168.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously. imagine if i made a 9x9 sudoku/regex crossword puzzle < 1363823194 29857 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you weirdos and your siblings < 1363823215 728789 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.168.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric :siblings are pretty good imo < 1363823250 871327 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo... no < 1363823265 394122 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo i don't think you have any, elliott? < 1363823269 661780 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly < 1363823272 281348 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :siblings are terrible < 1363823281 441978 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION doesn't either
< 1363823308 860569 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although not having siblings might be worse? < 1363823333 932523 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1363823346 80994 :carado!~carado@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:221:63ff:fe9a:3747 JOIN :#esoteric < 1363823384 311161 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.168.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone who participated in solving my little puzzle thingy should try to make one theirselves! tons of fun guaranteed < 1363823403 791072 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 across: A+ < 1363823406 143828 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 across: A+ < 1363823408 641904 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 across: A+ < 1363823412 301839 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 across: A+ < 1363823447 12765 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 diagonally: B+ < 1363823475 330696 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :HEY GUYS I JUST HAD THREE CUPS OF COFFEE AND THESE CAPS ARE NOT NEARLY ENOUGH TO REFLECT HOW I REALLY FEEL < 1363823480 241174 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's up? < 1363823484 270875 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.168.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm going to bed now but i expect at least 15 of them in my lambdabot inbox when i get back!! < 1363823487 433916 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Arc_Koen < 1363823491 566156 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.168.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye monqy < 1363823495 274784 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye nooodl < 1363823495 572795 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello monqy < 1363823497 573233 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye noodl < 1363823504 222647 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.168.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye Arc_Koen < 1363823507 471137 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :send my apologies to the third o < 1363823516 854062 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.168.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's used to it :') < 1363823517 151443 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe the missing o was one of the first two < 1363823521 111294 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we'll never know < 1363823540 331795 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.168.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sometimes "nooodle" too which is fun < 1363823553 713650 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :never nooodles? < 1363823554 461748 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.168.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently reading is hard? apparently reading my name is hard at least < 1363823560 722607 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1363823567 981422 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cause it's so unusual < 1363823570 761363 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Help I mapped my tab key to capslock < 1363823576 922007 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I get that a lot when I have to spell my name to someone < 1363823589 411584 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :S - T - E - P - H - A - N < 1363823604 482204 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they answer "yeah yeah I know" and write stephane < 1363823626 190243 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.168.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(huh i was guessing your name would be "koen") < 1363823636 731505 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not my first name < 1363823643 441883 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also Koen isn't the right spelling < 1363823666 520654 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the spelling I use when I'm being incognito on the internet < 1363823672 532058 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :stephan cohen? < 1363823675 651072 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you say incognito in english? < 1363823680 302662 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1363823682 682599 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, that's even worse a spelling < 1363823683 815186 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or anonymous < 1363823692 749034 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :stephan koan? < 1363823696 391589 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"when i'm being incognito" felt wrong < 1363823707 201728 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where's cognito? < 1363823710 481611 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can try many spellings and maybe in a few hours we'll reach the good one < 1363823719 911473 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: I reckon it's in mexico < 1363823735 831452 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: also my real name figures somewhere on the wiki < 1363823819 471631 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also 'going incognito' would be more standard < 1363823826 581750 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohhhh right thank you < 1363823891 780441 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sooo nooodl you were talking about a puzzle < 1363823917 921242 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i conclude from the logs that the average esolanger has a heavy mantle to bear < 1363823931 533917 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that because the average esolanger is like, inside the earth < 1363823933 29895 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :under the mantle < 1363823937 969562 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1363823952 272661 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora is quite smart < 1363823965 330119 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.168.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/15495351/regex.html < 1363823976 182721 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but she needs to work on not explaining jokes < 1363823981 224504 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :regew puzzle < 1363823996 152235 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for some reason I knew it wasn't going to be an everybody puzzle < 1363823996 743544 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. that was. actually a joke < 1363823997 251114 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora did you explain a joke again