< 1364947201 50299 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw Bike did you write lift and lower for CoYoneda < 1364947319 238677 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : He usually logreads, so perhaps no particular need to tell (or @tell). <-- well it went faster that way < 1364947354 625480 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Didn't I ask you something while you were gone? < 1364947358 159015 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you logread it? < 1364947378 604483 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't get how liftFoo :: f a -> Foo f a makes sense actually. < 1364947397 656465 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you write it? < 1364947406 476551 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try to write it with the Functor constraint. < 1364947417 667209 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then you'll see how it works. < 1364947428 64852 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: #haskell took too much time < 1364947434 223314 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i mean where's the function come from < 1364947438 183152 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right. That's what I asked. < 1364947438 652218 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or do you just throw in id or something < 1364947449 732939 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the puzzle < 1364947455 914139 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the answer is yes) < 1364947463 362977 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shitty puzzle < 1364947470 43583 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: What this does is turn zero or more applications of fmap into exactly one application. < 1364947487 969591 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Given the two functor laws, you can show that the end result is the same as what you'd've gotten anyway. < 1364947492 474456 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fmap id = id < 1364947499 161423 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fmap f . fmap g = fmap (f . g) < 1364947533 425299 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lift fuck = Foo fuck id, lower (Foo f a) = fmap a f < 1364947533 849156 :sivoais!~zaki@unaffiliated/sivoais QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1364947553 48737 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep. < 1364947570 108926 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So look at what you're doing -- Foo is literally holding the two arguments to fmap in a data structure. < 1364947573 506015 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's all it is. < 1364947579 570552 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1364947593 599773 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :every time i learn a haskell thing i just think "well, that was simple" < 1364947596 29470 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And a bit of type system nonsense to forget about the original type, since it don't matter.) < 1364947603 785011 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: OK, now Yoneda. < 1364947613 874768 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or not) < 1364947627 942965 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what, write it? < 1364947635 385276 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er, if you want. < 1364947648 822128 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where CoYoneda has the *arguments* to fmap, Yoneda has the *result* of fmap. < 1364947649 36594 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have no idea how so i'm going to not do that atm < 1364947661 788948 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fmap :: forall a. forall b. (a -> b) -> F a -> F b < 1364947675 563397 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :flip fmap :: forall a. F a -> (forall b. (a -> b) -> F b) < 1364947685 495781 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yoneda F a = forall b. (a -> b) -> F b < 1364947685 719195 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1364947701 630799 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :With Yoneda, lift has a Functor constraint, but lower doesn't. < 1364947791 451981 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you could say: fmap :: CoYoneda f a -> f a < 1364947795 762371 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fmap :: f a -> Yoneda f a < 1364947879 849584 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok so with Yoneda you aren't guaranteed any elements even exist unless f is a functor, right? < 1364947894 961475 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but with CoYoneda you are < 1364947899 839959 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1364947910 712923 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, there could still be inhabitants of Yoneda f a when f isn't a Functor. < 1364947920 235863 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it won't be very well-behaved. < 1364947927 326976 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No guarantees, either way. < 1364948029 389725 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :otoh with CoYoneda you aren't guaranteed that you can get any f element out of it again. < 1364948047 858989 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(unless f Functor) < 1364948057 129014 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1364948080 756116 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I,I (>>=) :: m a -> Codensity m a < 1364948101 374456 :sivoais!~zaki@unaffiliated/sivoais JOIN :#esoteric < 1364948107 425728 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(=>>) :: Density w a -> w a < 1364948141 574405 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1364948166 264295 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Codensity is the same thing as Yoneda except for monads. < 1364948178 869590 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1364948181 616252 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :newtype Codensity m a = Codensity { runCodensity :: forall r. (a -> m r) -> m r } < 1364948207 672944 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :data Density w a = forall x. Density (w x) (w x -> a) < 1364948597 537870 :sivoais!~zaki@unaffiliated/sivoais QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1364948671 938304 :sivoais!~zaki@unaffiliated/sivoais JOIN :#esoteric < 1364949009 482140 :SDr!~ask@unaffiliated/sdr NICK :SDr|LND < 1364949073 26471 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-166-51.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1364949118 884627 :sivoais!~zaki@unaffiliated/sivoais QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1364949195 507711 :sivoais!~zaki@unaffiliated/sivoais JOIN :#esoteric < 1364949372 126006 :TheFreediver!~Georgian@host86-148-183-187.range86-148.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1364949613 479759 :TheFreediver!~Georgian@host86-148-183-187.range86-148.btcentralplus.com PART :#esoteric < 1364949664 883340 :sivoais!~zaki@unaffiliated/sivoais QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1364949763 345114 :sivoais!~zaki@unaffiliated/sivoais JOIN :#esoteric < 1364949791 748154 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay got the second admission test tomorrow morning < 1364949803 523719 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's supposed to last ten minutes < 1364949849 399424 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and since the first test actually took 30 minutes instead of the whole hour they advertised... good luck having the motivation to wake up early just for five minutes of playing with tangrams < 1364949954 384423 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :admission to what? < 1364950030 279227 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :some computer science school < 1364950043 40612 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good luck < 1364950044 199087 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's so excited about it he doesn't even remember its name. < 1364950051 615070 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the name is "42" < 1364950059 278700 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :scss.edu < 1364950061 759876 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but "some computer science school" makes it look more serious < 1364950065 244989 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it really < 1364950069 508443 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it is < 1364950100 707211 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :42-grok-combinator-dojo.edu < 1364950110 556041 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just 42.fr < 1364950111 880005 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok seriously though, what are you talking about < 1364950133 771725 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The SKI Institute of Lambda Calculus < 1364950138 322585 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the guy who owns free decided he had so much money he could just create his own school just like that < 1364950149 479056 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean free.fr? < 1364950154 110344 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup < 1364950162 380303 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm gonna level with you i thought that was a government service < 1364950168 79819 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1364950179 568816 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike it's france everything is a government service (zing) < 1364950181 730915 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no that's a telephone / internet company < 1364950204 992648 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently the guy became wealthy thanks to the sex minitel business < 1364950206 717080 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :à prix incroyable, apparently < 1364950226 191077 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah they have a reputation like that < 1364950231 336155 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: um, so I kind of let myself calm down and get less anxious by doing some other things, and so, I'm up to level 5 < 1364950231 530255 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what's the deal with this "computer science school" < 1364950237 813200 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: cool cool :) < 1364950240 813186 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my exploit works fine in gdb, but... it sigills outside of gdb? < 1364950241 8234 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it < 1364950241 475416 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like < 1364950242 640077 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :legit??? < 1364950254 237298 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea < 1364950254 944651 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're named '42' as a clever reference to 'hacker culture' < 1364950256 605423 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and in gdb it doesn't get me the level6 shell, just a level5 shell) < 1364950260 77301 :sivoais!~zaki@unaffiliated/sivoais QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1364950267 86845 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a clever reference to 'h2g2 culture' < 1364950270 91050 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: oh no < 1364950271 633921 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn sigil < 1364950273 460691 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :No match for "sigil". < 1364950277 426420 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :???????????????????? < 1364950278 587361 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's much worse than that < 1364950278 781401 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: yeah, programs running in a debugger lose setuid bits < 1364950280 96973 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, nerd culture strikes again < 1364950285 954993 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise you could exploit them so easily < 1364950286 150532 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: gdb does all sorts of things to make debugging easy < 1364950291 979148 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :every mail they sends me is full of 1337 crap < 1364950293 146307 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: Like disable ASLR and what not. < 1364950303 52676 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and other references to geek stuff < 1364950304 561978 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. the system has ASLR on? :< < 1364950308 389116 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does GDB actually disable ASLR? < 1364950311 381994 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you sure they teach compsci and not like < 1364950314 13625 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and no, the io.sts system doesn't have ASLR enabled < 1364950320 112945 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk something stupid < 1364950320 307226 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: wait wait wait, is this a for-profit school? < 1364950322 134048 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a few binaries have ghetto ASLR glued on < 1364950326 239456 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I ran my exploit like 100,000 times < 1364950326 517138 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'll see it in the source < 1364950327 238470 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :to be sure < 1364950327 796022 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because like... fuck that shit, you know? < 1364950337 996630 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway apparently you have to pass the tests online, and then if you pass you get a free course over the summer < 1364950338 191885 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: do you have a big NOP sled? < 1364950339 156814 :eyni_espt!~canaima@190.121.238.157 JOIN :#esoteric < 1364950341 503642 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :15h/day < 1364950343 139881 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ummmm no, no nop sled < 1364950345 309012 :sivoais!~zaki@unaffiliated/sivoais JOIN :#esoteric < 1364950349 17004 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how big should the nop sled be? < 1364950356 974470 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :as big as you can get away with < 1364950358 636015 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then if they still want you after that you get in the school starting november or something < 1364950361 961652 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :4GB < 1364950364 979759 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i've put 1MB nop sleds on the command line < 1364950365 479872 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's supposedly all free < 1364950373 52055 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I figured I could as well enter < 1364950394 401568 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but this is a 128 byte array I'm overflowing < 1364950417 327421 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you asking for spoilers here :4'( < 1364950419 676136 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and at the end I have to clobber a return value < 1364950426 237323 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :n-no... I don't mean that...! < 1364950434 583678 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you can just fuck memory right < 1364950441 360141 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fill that shit with xchg eax eax < 1364950442 581685 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :be free < 1364950455 223944 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: yeah your shellcode might go in a different arg from the buffer overflow < 1364950458 355593 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or even in an env var < 1364950467 386255 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1364950471 448461 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just need to get that code somewhere in the process's address space, and guess its address < 1364950473 622964 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought you put the code in the buffer and then try to jump to it < 1364950482 562867 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if you have a big nop sled then you don't need to guess too accurately < 1364950499 193530 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: that's often the case, with remote exploits especially, but not here < 1364950509 940335 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :iim interested to see what "42" actually teaches, what "42" really is < 1364950510 614435 :eyni_espt!~canaima@190.121.238.157 PART :#esoteric < 1364950512 106469 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the great thing about setuid binaries is that the user^Wattacker controls so much of their execution environment < 1364950514 299817 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how would I iterate over a gazillion different addresses in my overflow to try it? < 1364950524 850739 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: weeeeeeeell it's really really unclear < 1364950527 171122 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess perl magic or something < 1364950529 341901 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im betting it's a front for i-drugs. < 1364950530 711458 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know < 1364950531 865773 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for like < 1364950533 856102 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i-dosing < 1364950534 691090 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm probably not interested < 1364950534 886497 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: i think you'll find that env vars are loaded at a roughly constant address < 1364950537 713438 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :as is argv < 1364950544 667304 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gdb's results should be reasonable accurate there < 1364950549 81765 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Codensity f) is not necessarily the same as f, but in some cases it is such as Identity or Finalize. Other times you get other existing monads such as (Codensity ((->) x)) making (State x). In all cases it makes a monad though, even if f isn't. < 1364950558 232863 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which will make it even harder to get up tomorrow morning :p < 1364950559 680267 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah, you could use perl's pack function to generate a bunch of addresses < 1364950566 979871 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, how would I look at an env variable in gdb? < 1364950569 191234 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: A curious scientific phenomenonis that the fingernails grow after death. As does the beard. < 1364950569 672678 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The answer to free, peer-to-peer IT courses and everything? For France, it's 42" why did i look this up < 1364950581 140733 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: *smack* < 1364950591 303075 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable it's your own damn fault < 1364950592 787449 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :When writing Linux programs meant as setuid I have tried to be careful to ensure that it won't cause a security issue < 1364950605 35002 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: wow < 1364950614 901570 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: that's a news article not the thing < 1364950616 5433 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: cat /proc/pid/environ hth < 1364950624 825235 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oww, what did I do :< < 1364950625 295462 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't give you the address of the environment array does it < 1364950631 885629 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the thing is http://www.42.fr/ supposedly but it doesn't seem up < 1364950635 751405 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: pinged 'em < 1364950640 865300 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :level5@io:~$ cat /proc/pid/environ < 1364950641 223772 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: /proc/pid/environ: No such file or directory < 1364950641 418333 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: show environment var < 1364950654 207274 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :/proc is the root of many bugs < 1364950669 311341 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: you can set with set environment foo = bar < 1364950672 223950 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: pid is something you replace with your pid < 1364950676 6972 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the goal isn't to find out what's in the environment, the goal is to find the address of the environment array itself < 1364950678 396381 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but how do I know where the address is >_< < 1364950680 29829 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: uuuuuh what have you done I can't log in to their site < 1364950686 87900 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I don't know the pid < 1364950690 276868 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: i broke it. this cannot be allowed to stand. < 1364950690 508216 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: for some reason "p environ" isn't giving useful values in gdb :/ < 1364950700 864101 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: which architecture? < 1364950702 501822 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway it's usually right after argv < 1364950706 678393 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :somewhere on the stack < 1364950708 506688 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but where is argv < 1364950711 308880 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: for the x86 its right before the argv < 1364950712 334638 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you could break on main < 1364950713 764158 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure there's a cheat folder to get your own pid but i forget it < 1364950719 273355 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: print &argv :) < 1364950719 467002 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, kmc, I already did that... < 1364950722 820975 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it's self < 1364950723 927302 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's how I got the current address... < 1364950726 888155 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : and it's supposedly all free <-- so... did you happen to discover this yesterday? *cough* < 1364950728 611014 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it doesn't work... < 1364950740 112348 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, the day before yesterday < 1364950745 583338 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: you can turn on ASLR in gdb to get a "more realistic debugging experience" hth < 1364950746 569489 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: but did you try it with a huge nop sled + some fudging of addresses < 1364950748 602484 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: a week ago I think < 1364950749 250145 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/ASLR/aslr/ < 1364950754 580388 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: but the machine has aslr off < 1364950760 239460 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does? < 1364950761 921976 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fudging? < 1364950765 570074 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So why isn't it working without gdb? < 1364950766 706211 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc just said that it did... < 1364950773 344593 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't knowwwwwwwwwwwwww < 1364950774 26273 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo investigate what's going on < 1364950775 609516 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what I am trying to ask < 1364950777 98343 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :howwww < 1364950785 363381 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :investigating what's going on is the whole point of these exercises imo < 1364950792 87903 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but, how < 1364950796 251120 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fudging meaning just try adjusting it < 1364950799 467958 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: /proc/self is your own pid in rootmefs < 1364950809 435271 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :but don't depend on that < 1364950810 594611 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried adjusting it up/down 16/32/48 ish manually < 1364950811 918676 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it didn't work < 1364950815 290308 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if your nop sled is 4 kB then try moving the address up and down in 4kB increments < 1364950818 344179 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1364950821 710315 :sivoais!~zaki@unaffiliated/sivoais QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1364950824 626780 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but... I only have 128 bytes of room... < 1364950824 821823 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is rootmefs an insult < 1364950829 668498 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yeap < 1364950835 371727 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: no because you can put your shellcode in a separate argument or env variable < 1364950839 420929 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kay < 1364950841 113350 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but how ._. < 1364950848 43313 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION decides to watch some Emo Philips
< 1364950856 867720 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: /proc has been the cause of many a linux kernel bug < 1364950863 401442 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I asked how to get the address of an environment variable but nobody answered me,.. < 1364950863 732050 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's level05? < 1364950869 782083 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: I told you already < 1364950882 784944 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :char buf[128]; strcpy(buf, argv[1]); ...? < 1364950897 244125 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: there is no *portable* way to get the address of "the envrionment"; you can cheat if you know the architecture < 1364950907 642777 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :or you can usw show envrionemnt < 1364950918 195788 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :./foo "$(perl -e 'print "x" x 128; print "\xef\xbe\xad\x0b"')" "$(perl -e 'print "\x90" x 4096'; cat shellcode)" < 1364950921 113081 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: something like that < 1364950932 500714 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first arg overflows the buffer and overwrites the return address < 1364950943 47041 :sivoais!~zaki@unaffiliated/sivoais JOIN :#esoteric < 1364950944 135050 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the second arg is ignored by the program, but gets your shellcode into its address space with a big nop sled < 1364950950 998499 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable: I don't think /proc is relevant or helpful here < 1364950968 108853 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: someone else mentioned it < 1364950974 136984 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is shellcode supposed to be a file...? < 1364950978 864740 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: in that case yeah < 1364950982 985208 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I can't write files < 1364950985 919868 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :at all? < 1364950988 444405 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no! < 1364950999 517371 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that's not supposed to happen, but anyway, you could also do it inline < 1364951001 173375 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not in tmp not anywhere < 1364951016 884967 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in /tmp/Fiora? < 1364951020 179591 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no!!! < 1364951026 146907 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :!!!!!! < 1364951035 183783 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fiora, it's alright < 1364951038 564539 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: you don't need the shellcode to be in a file < 1364951040 222612 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just helps < 1364951047 144266 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: you could move the shellcode into the perl invocation, like the first one < 1364951068 998510 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but your example gives the program two arguments but it needs 1 < 1364951082 263951 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION tries to connect
< 1364951087 324134 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did they change the passwords or something? < 1364951095 548171 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: they do change them periodically < 1364951101 893606 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can get the new password in IRC < 1364951103 86029 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmph. < 1364951110 313236 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :IRC? < 1364951116 183541 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: well does it actually refuse to run with 2 args, or does it just ignore the second one? < 1364951130 563511 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it refuses to run, you can put that shellcode in an environment variable instead < 1364951148 69868 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, it supports more, but... I don't get it < 1364951149 940838 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just needs to end up somewhere in the process's address space, with a vaguely predictable address < 1364951166 628226 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that you can overflow the buffer and make that function return to this address < 1364951170 646292 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: You just need the shellcode to be in the address space when the buffer overflows. It doesn't matter so much how it gets in. < 1364951178 502941 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I already got it in < 1364951181 237373 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I already checked the address < 1364951183 225194 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I jump to it < 1364951194 599133 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm I'm lost < 1364951200 539567 :iamcal_!uid1110@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gshojyeecydaotiy JOIN :#esoteric < 1364951204 880536 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: but your address is probably slightly off, due to differences between gdb and non-gdb environment < 1364951209 278410 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the point of the NOP sled < 1364951216 686660 :WeThePeople!~WeThePeop@unaffiliated/wethepeople JOIN :#esoteric < 1364951221 732689 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :means you don't need to be so precise guessing the address < 1364951256 205178 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and needing a big NOP sled is why you want to put the shell code in a separate arg / env var, rather than the buffer you're overflowing < 1364951382 28309 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1364951384 787533 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw I found that addresses would differ depending on whether I ran the program as ./level05 or /levels/level05 < 1364951390 819985 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because that alters the length of argv[0] < 1364951399 975975 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if your nop sled is big enough then this doesn't really matter < 1364951401 503374 :sivoais!~zaki@unaffiliated/sivoais QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1364951454 145937 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :gdb always puts the full path in *argv < 1364951510 101115 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://privatepaste.com/e72a7592bf bash doesn't seem to want me to do this... < 1364951512 822994 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :with the $a and $b... < 1364951542 287806 :sivoais!~zaki@unaffiliated/sivoais JOIN :#esoteric < 1364951548 546239 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's inside a string that's single-quoted from the shell's perspective isn't it < 1364951556 716957 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh... um < 1364951557 914538 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so those $a and $b are perl variables but not shell variables < 1364951559 743417 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do I do that < 1364951563 916342 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to just bruteforce it < 1364951571 347538 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :move the assignment into perl :) < 1364951577 848566 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :... I don't know any perl < 1364951585 290513 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good excuse to learn some < 1364951588 974195 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and um, I need to loop < 1364951593 975844 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I can loop inside that... < 1364951595 543588 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or python, or whatever simple thing. < 1364951599 701424 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :perl has loops < 1364951603 583381 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: i did it without knowing any perl < 1364951604 416952 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry to state the obvious < 1364951621 476665 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't modify constant item in scalar assignment at -e line 1, near "FB;" < 1364951623 650226 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :._. < 1364951651 453365 :nooodl__!~nooodl@91.177.109.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :$a="\xFB"; maybe? < 1364951653 165678 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw if I ssh to level1@io.smashthestack.org and then mkdir /tmp/esoteric_rulez and then cd /tmp/esoteric_rulez < 1364951654 145734 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: just pretend it's AVX2, hth < 1364951655 831362 :nooodl__!~nooodl@91.177.109.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i don't know perl either) < 1364951656 467634 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then i can create files there < 1364951661 974991 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: ????? i can't < 1364951668 937603 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1364951672 805977 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure what I'm doing differently :( < 1364951678 728831 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :level5@io:~$ touch /tmp/fiora/test < 1364951679 60344 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :touch: cannot touch `/tmp/fiora/test': Permission denied < 1364951712 385081 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm: mkdir: cannot create directory `/tmp/fiora': File exists < 1364951718 751790 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, because I already made it... < 1364951721 636788 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1364951729 700760 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you make it as a different user < 1364951736 380060 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need one directory per level basically < 1364951881 89210 :SDr|LND!~ask@unaffiliated/sdr NICK :SDr < 1364951917 786722 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1364951923 274551 :DH____!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1364951987 613075 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :At *least* one. < 1364952007 531799 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1364952030 214335 :sivoais!~zaki@unaffiliated/sivoais QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1364952094 110189 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh... < 1364952100 646290 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh cool I can write c code now < 1364952116 113431 :sivoais!~zaki@unaffiliated/sivoais JOIN :#esoteric < 1364952124 933267 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can always write C code locally and upload it via base64. < 1364952160 148253 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fiora proceeds to write a complete suite of tools for autogenerating shellcode instead of using perl < 1364952214 308329 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: i read that in the same tone as "i know kung fu" < 1364952228 897369 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: would that work? I mean, like, it wouldn't be compiled on the same system... < 1364952245 571911 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :if only binaries could be compiled on one system and run on another < 1364952256 982573 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :an innovation left for the 22nd century < 1364952257 411478 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't need to be sarcastic. < 1364952282 260934 :GOMADWarrior!~Regis@187.65.192.206 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1364952286 228753 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought linux wasn't that great at that... like you can't go and run some random gentoo binary on an ubuntu system and have it using an identical libc and stuff or something can you or am I totally confused < 1364952331 683536 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can always write a program that doesn't use libc!! < 1364952337 75822 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The kernel ABI is very stable. < 1364952372 574610 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : what I went and just like ran my original code that didn't work < 1364952373 733858 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it worked < 1364952381 771394 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it was because I had a different cwd? @_@ < 1364952382 798227 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :programming defined :D < 1364952410 227017 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: Maybe it only works some of the time? < 1364952420 892278 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I ran it 5^5 times without success earlier... < 1364952427 984754 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes on games like this with ASLR I just ran my program a few thousand times until it worked. < 1364952431 19456 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1364952434 891841 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 5^5 < 1364952436 383073 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 3125 < 1364952448 410348 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually I think I ran that loop like a few dozen times too so < 1364952457 216776 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, bignum. < 1364952466 431230 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: /levels/level05 "$(echo McBQaC8vc2hoL2JpbonjUFOJ4bALzYBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEDQ+/+/ | base64 -d)" < 1364952468 156062 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bignum? < 1364952470 799146 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that ended up doing it) < 1364952472 289295 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a big number < 1364952475 675637 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1364952490 704013 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zbigniewm < 1364952491 300484 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought you meant the next level was about exploiting a bignum implementation, that'd be cool. < 1364952495 91548 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1364952511 547890 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION doesn't know anything about implementing bignums other than the obvious way though.
< 1364952558 942732 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good job stressing yourself out over stupid things fifi < 1364952566 630902 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: you beat the level? cool < 1364952570 442506 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there there fiora < 1364952575 553647 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are infinity times farther in this than i am < 1364952612 583848 :sivoais!~zaki@unaffiliated/sivoais QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1364952693 418289 :sivoais!~zaki@unaffiliated/sivoais JOIN :#esoteric < 1364952714 981091 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The kind of MediaWiki skin I want to use would be something like this: http://sprunge.us/Jgci Maybe I can try to write one. < 1364952728 788969 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are others who have said they wanted to have "unstyled" skin, and so on. < 1364952733 339604 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you think of this? < 1364952769 483795 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Render as HTML if you want to yourself, to see how it appears on your computer) < 1364952772 821302 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that a skin because it looks li- oh. < 1364952785 230077 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does mediawiki seriously use allcaps html? < 1364952847 905584 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it doesn't. < 1364952858 475716 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't have to, either. < 1364952859 478336 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your skin looks like every professor's webpage. < 1364952873 723158 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1364952883 911939 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Using allcaps HTML is not what I mean at all; that doesn't matter (unless it is XHTML, which mine isn't) < 1364952916 88753 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like every professor's webpage? I didn't know that, but that is irrelevant. < 1364952974 720264 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it matters in XHTML? < 1364952981 980797 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well I mean... I don't know what a skin is, but there's no css or nuthin < 1364953000 371355 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: xml is case sensitive < 1364953006 375824 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :XHTML has to use lowercase HTML tags and has to be valid XML (so tags without a corresponding closing tag have to be self-closing in XHTML) < 1364953040 498734 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: TIL :( < 1364953071 30083 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno, i feel a bit more lukewarm about case insensitivity after thinking about other scripts < 1364953108 781338 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Yes, I know, no CSS or anything like that; It is what I wanted (some other people also wanted an "unstyled" skin, like that, perhaps), which is just ultra-minimal with no CSS, JavaScripts, section-edit links, edit toolbars, etc; only plain. < 1364953162 169925 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1364953180 101073 :sivoais!~zaki@unaffiliated/sivoais QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1364953220 608654 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Can you be more specific please? < 1364953304 206492 :sivoais!~zaki@unaffiliated/sivoais JOIN :#esoteric < 1364953319 605927 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :specific about what. < 1364953365 41441 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway html doesn't really specify how to be displayed does it < 1364953391 212651 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Correct; it doesn't specify. It is up to the client to display it. < 1364953402 10316 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant specific about lukewarm about case insensitivity after thinking about other scripts. < 1364953429 914440 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, just that it doesn't always seem clear how multiple characters "share a case" across languages < 1364953513 862259 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, case-insensitivity is specific to the language/alphabets/character-sets you are using. < 1364953731 836899 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1364953766 116346 :sivoais!~zaki@unaffiliated/sivoais QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1364953829 880538 :sivoais!~zaki@unaffiliated/sivoais JOIN :#esoteric < 1364954097 632962 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1364954149 958897 :sivoais!~zaki@unaffiliated/sivoais QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1364954206 703774 :sivoais!~zaki@unaffiliated/sivoais JOIN :#esoteric < 1364954757 728470 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1364954832 96815 :WeThePeople!~WeThePeop@unaffiliated/wethepeople QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1364954864 164134 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1364955099 949613 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/divarvel/phpz < 1364955795 160059 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-166-136.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1364955969 31914 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-166-51.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1364956007 354142 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :y'all're lucky you're not in #haskell right now < 1364956050 487574 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's going down < 1364956054 134608 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :morpheus is fighting neo? < 1364956066 820891 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's high noon and the sheriff ain't got his gun < 1364956113 693515 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Who's the commanding officer here?" "Ain't you?" < 1364956117 242441 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hey it's ralith < 1364956119 891638 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and sw2wolf! < 1364956127 726947 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no are you reading the logs < 1364956129 462461 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't do that < 1364956136 199509 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just being annoying in there now. < 1364956140 357551 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"roshan: JS is usually faster than Python" yeah i'm done < 1364956195 957688 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-166-136.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1364956232 808197 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7xjjevoeE1rn95k2o1_250.gif < 1364956274 416532 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :only the dead shall know peace from this evil < 1364956397 447214 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway you guys should convince sw2wolf to use xmonad. thanks in advance < 1364956510 678913 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :truly #esoteric is the shitposting subforum of #haskell < 1364956587 586406 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Where do you know sw2wolf from? < 1364956592 600394 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: why don't you appreciate my puns......... < 1364956627 256847 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :#lisp, he asks for people to debug everything in broken english < 1364956641 459338 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow that sounds like #haskell < 1364956644 972206 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you sure #lisp isn't #haskel < 1364956645 640796 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :l < 1364956656 657012 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :honestly? no < 1364956657 154679 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :use ze macro < 1364956810 649924 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote ubuntu.freebsd < 1364956810 844626 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :NIXDAEMON-COOL says: how to uncompile make into java gcc 3.3 under ubuntu freebsd ?? < 1364956824 458479 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :has putin ever been asked that < 1364956871 306708 :WeThePeople!~WeThePeop@unaffiliated/wethepeople JOIN :#esoteric < 1364956937 536185 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1364957191 906635 :WeThePeople!~WeThePeop@unaffiliated/wethepeople QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1364957547 804003 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey poll < 1364957551 544691 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does "strongly typed" mean < 1364957605 967850 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: /kick Bike plz thx < 1364957641 892297 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yikes < 1364957657 231923 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you wound me < 1364957681 137360 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but seriously i'm 80% sure it's meaningless so I'm wondering if anyone thinks differently < 1364957685 295437 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :have at thee, knave! < 1364957687 898704 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this "a recurring #haskell thing" perchance < 1364957695 729853 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"a little bit yes" < 1364957704 551933 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it's meaningless. < 1364957707 602700 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm just gonna drop this here http://cdsmith.wordpress.com/2011/01/09/an-old-article-i-wrote/ < 1364957709 266492 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :alt. it means whatever you want it to mean < 1364957713 869712 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: 'like LISP' < 1364957718 950517 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's 80% meaningless < 1364957725 401102 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :alt. it means whatever makes the person you're talking to look stupid < 1364957738 557505 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: it's like "stringly typed" but with steel cable hth < 1364957761 117250 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Strong typing: A type system that I like and feel comfortable with" okay the problem here is that the other half of the conversation is supporting weak typing, as in, saying they like "weak typing" < 1364957780 655897 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no some people say strong typing is bad < 1364957791 788657 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only weak people. < 1364957802 4310 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :weak types for the weak minded < 1364957812 592324 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is strong bad typing? < 1364957828 47047 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, this says static typing and dynamic typing are orthogonal. I love you, article. < 1364957828 632225 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if you support both strong and weak typing at once < 1364957830 459308 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : typing < 1364957831 332901 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that stereotyping < 1364957832 595239 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: well weak types are types that know their place and don't get in the way of the programmer. duh. < 1364957852 855352 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :itt uppity types < 1364957853 50428 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't be a misotypist < 1364957858 211501 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :THE JOKE IS STEREO < 1364957870 870694 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: the joke is coming from inside the irc < 1364957910 529086 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :intermediate representation c < 1364957913 182510 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :a competitor of c-- < 1364958014 882297 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: how bout them leibniz equalities < 1364958016 11245 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: wouldn't you love to secure boot GPG directly from UEFI < 1364958022 5085 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha leibniz. < 1364958032 80883 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also in this discussion i mentioned unsafeCoerce < 1364958033 619386 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This is like looking at a finely chiseled sculpture made from beautiful and purely white wood. Then you realize in horror that the material is actually human bone." < 1364958034 34792 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :slight problem is that GPG's UI is beyond unusuable < 1364958044 26528 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Would I? < 1364958047 815110 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cool intermediate representation C using steroids < 1364958054 605944 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sedlec_Ossuary < 1364958064 198156 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a good ossuary. < 1364958077 705069 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"id = unsafeCoerce" welp < 1364958085 491353 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :efficiency < 1364958099 233398 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we don't have time for your types at web scale < 1364958133 506485 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: offer it next to Unity < 1364958149 772439 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :spj called my code "ferociously-unintuitive" < 1364958152 641358 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :do i win a medal < 1364958155 663237 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"null = not . unsafeCoerce" this is beautiful < 1364958163 859445 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is a ferociously-unintuitive use of 'gcast'! It too me dome while to convince myself that it was right. Though it does indeed work. I'd see (gcast Refl) as the primitive, with 'gcast' itself as a simple derived function. < 1364958170 854047 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-- spj < 1364958181 229550 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you're winner < 1364958181 728926 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote unsafeCoerce < 1364958181 923507 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :roconnor says: unsafeCoerce isn't even safe < 1364958196 816219 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote unsafeCoerce < 1364958197 150896 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e says: What, unsafeCoerce# is kind-preserving? how boring :/ < 1364958202 830411 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote = unsafeCoerce < 1364958203 63941 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :No quotes for this person. This mission is too important for me to allow you to jeopardize it. < 1364958204 904901 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote =.unsafeCoerce < 1364958205 98832 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ddarius says: isJust :: Maybe a -> Bool; isJust = unsafeCoerce < 1364958206 767667 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote =.unsafeCoerce < 1364958207 96172 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ddarius says: isJust :: Maybe a -> Bool; isJust = unsafeCoerce < 1364958207 933589 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote =.unsafeCoerce < 1364958208 128941 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf says: isTrue :: Bool -> Bool; isTrue = unsafeCoerce < 1364958211 484936 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote =.unsafeCoerce < 1364958211 738598 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ddarius says: isJust :: Maybe a -> Bool; isJust = unsafeCoerce < 1364958213 949580 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmph. < 1364958226 16842 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :It might be there; keep trying. < 1364958234 405049 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote Jafet < 1364958234 599124 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet says: Wouldn't that violate the laws of thermodynamics? not if you indent the `|' properly < 1364958240 904686 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1364958243 971870 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :You made spj too dome while? < 1364958252 325880 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote Bike < 1364958252 520093 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Conor says: So, taking Void to be the colour of the empty bikeshed ... < 1364958291 186583 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :undefined = unsafeCoerce unsafeCoerce < 1364958305 146961 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow this has "thanks edwardk" in it < 1364958370 201623 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1364958372 660786 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are you reading? < 1364958383 709741 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :some old gist you've probably all seen < 1364958391 519116 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1364958399 988334 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you know who edwardk is < 1364958415 754301 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :His true name is spoken only in whispers. < 1364958424 280997 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the k stands for "hi monky" which is a misspelling of monqy < 1364958435 789475 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask monqy hi < 1364958435 983824 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1364958493 491355 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a C program that I'm pretty sure will kernel panic umlbox but I don't want to try it out on HackEgo because Gregor might murder me < 1364958506 959144 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo try it < 1364958513 862899 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: You don't mind, right? < 1364958543 753339 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: that definition of undefined looks unreliable < 1364958560 951998 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed. < 1364958589 341980 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I'm trying to work out what "fix unsafeCoerce" is < 1364958599 18054 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :an infinite loop, I guess, if its value becomes relevant < 1364958609 181810 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fix unsafeCoerce = fix id < 1364958616 385212 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it's just a plain old infinite loop. < 1364958671 914805 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help < 1364958672 216296 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch " downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1364958680 154092 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? HackEgo < 1364958682 584786 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo, also known as HackBot, is a bot that runs arbitrary commands on Unix. See `help for info on using it. You should totally try to hax0r it! Make sure you imagine it's running as root with no sandboxing. < 1364958683 19651 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yeah < 1364958696 637533 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think `? HackEgo is somewhat sarcastic < 1364958706 315474 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :unsafeCoerce unsafeCoerce < 1364958708 852882 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Segmentation fault < 1364958709 47299 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :now the ptracer becomes the ptraced < 1364958712 254756 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That went well. < 1364958723 349174 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i vaguely think `? HackEgo was added by Gregor himself. < 1364958730 790610 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: imo `? HackEgo tells you the way < 1364958750 54876 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`url wisdom/hackego < 1364958751 611921 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog `learn HackEgo < 1364958752 585948 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/wisdom/hackego < 1364958770 826767 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it cannot be `learn because of the comma < 1364958774 503266 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I got two gdb to debug each other, it was great < 1364958778 21220 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: right, missed that < 1364958782 640678 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1364958884 750726 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: hm the repository has had its history wiped since that was added < 1364958899 531831 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog wisdom/HackEgo < 1364958907 81126 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs wisdom/hackego < 1364958907 340291 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Causing a kernel panic in umlbox would be pretty mundane, really. < 1364958916 297115 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :In terms of its effect. < 1364958921 788519 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2011-09-14.txt:23:05:16: mv: cannot stat `wisdom/HackEgo,': No such file or directory < 1364958930 572575 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.31897 < 1364958954 500239 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs hax0r < 1364958958 515262 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: it also wouldn't be visible on IRC, would it? < 1364958967 213941 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog You should totally try to hax0r it! < 1364958969 889985 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.31776 < 1364958970 659675 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: It should be. < 1364958970 853626 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: oh it actual was `learn XD < 1364958975 351969 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Well, Idonno. < 1364958977 87527 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2011-09-14.txt:23:04:34: `learn HackEgo, also known as HackBot, is a bot that runs arbitrary commands on Unix. See `help for info on using it. You should totally try to hax0r it! Make sure you imagine it's running as root with no sandboxing. < 1364958977 353584 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, no. < 1364958980 112466 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there we go < 1364958984 96719 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't keep the system console. < 1364958994 496537 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: yeah < 1364959005 316694 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/2011-09-14.txt < 1364959010 41030 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that's true. It starts a new UML every time, doesn't it? < 1364959014 599492 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :potentially if I did a bunch of them it would be obnoxious to the server < 1364959029 54120 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if there's nothing that kills wedged umlbox-linux processes < 1364959036 666906 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but, probably there is such a thing as that < 1364959086 558851 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :All these Crypto Exceptions in mosh are annoying. < 1364959093 836378 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And they disappear immediately so I can't even read them. < 1364959103 127186 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Oh, it leaves the uml process running in a borked-up state? < 1364959244 34097 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1364959262 885846 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i like how that article is like "lol, performance" < 1364959272 53586 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: use it to make a HackEgo daemon imo < 1364960272 695075 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com TOPIC #esoteric :One for yes, two for no | IGMuYwpjLmMuYwogYy5jCg== | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1364960326 229564 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1364960369 566150 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :! < 1364960377 232272 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1364960382 264727 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: is that a multiocular c.c < 1364960395 302413 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1364960497 619683 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry for getting all nervous earlier, I think I'll continue that wargame thing later < 1364960501 143215 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks for the help < 1364960551 101572 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hope we didn't overwhelm you with attempts to help < 1364960552 438448 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :#haskell style < 1364960575 878892 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, maybe a little < 1364960583 432701 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry :/ < 1364960589 860681 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :CAN I HALP < 1364960593 626421 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's okay! < 1364960594 261288 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was trying to not help. < 1364960599 209631 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because that would be spoilers. < 1364960602 561023 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe that was unhelpful. < 1364960610 230121 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi copumpkin < 1364960614 392504 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :HALP < 1364960626 864370 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how's CT < 1364960644 84394 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the coend of the line < 1364960680 357177 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey copumpkin did you ever read that story by ted chiang _Liking What You See: A Documentary_ < 1364960688 493414 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1364960698 631459 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :what/where? < 1364960719 941489 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.clarku.edu/welcome/placement/pdf/reading.pdf < 1364960750 113199 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1364960770 358502 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :thankee < 1364960775 670790 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :what made you think of it? < 1364960794 971490 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :MCALLISTER Keegan can confirm that it's good. Or not good. Depending on what he wants to confirm. < 1364960804 265275 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i will confirm < 1364960827 349035 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I'm glad < 1364960840 968306 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :MCALLISTER Keegan is reputable < 1364960848 944518 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf has better taste in readings though < 1364960862 532338 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1364960918 912206 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes User Mode Linux is definitely like a dancing bear < 1364960929 543167 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the miracle is not that the bear dances well, but that he dances at all < 1364960956 635298 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the sort of thing that is obviously possible in principle, and yet obviously not going to work, and yet it does < 1364960966 212532 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION thinks most of computers is like that, sometimes
< 1364961026 659743 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dancing is pretty miraculous even for humans imo < 1364961185 460494 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION agrees with Bike
< 1364961212 288179 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mine isn't < 1364961225 609764 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :your dancing? < 1364961239 922001 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1364961268 603301 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if you fell flat on your face that would be amazing < 1364961278 332462 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you ever thought about the amount of coordination involved in falling on your face < 1364961290 669678 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1364961314 489889 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a lot. Keepin your hands in front of your head and such. < 1364961369 215368 :yours_truly!~yours@mc-193-90.IPReg.mcmaster.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1364961380 402518 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1364961492 236454 :yours_truly!~yours@mc-193-90.IPReg.mcmaster.ca QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1364961531 740744 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1364961709 616810 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1364961877 724497 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist < 1364961879 492970 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1364962326 196943 :nooodl__!~nooodl@91.177.109.136 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1364963559 227341 :shachaf_!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1364963564 182588 :shachaf_!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com QUIT :Changing host < 1364963564 377089 :shachaf_!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf JOIN :#esoteric < 1364963579 169222 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1364963583 755272 :shachaf_!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf NICK :shachaf < 1364963845 646184 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found out there is a ?action=render in MediaWiki which is close to what I have asked for. < 1364964934 94446 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1364964976 752200 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1364965121 471431 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1364965581 657853 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Ghoti < 1364967068 33169 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1364967819 625578 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1364968147 376998 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1364969514 694167 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-14-72.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION would like to randomly interject by saying that the Japanese MLP translation is well-done.
< 1364969539 446511 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think that qualifies as an interjection < 1364969562 947952 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-14-72.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :More a statement really. < 1364969578 345381 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it better in japanese or english? < 1364969596 127037 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :really only the maltese localization preserves all the subtleties < 1364969602 285551 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Bike < 1364969607 57876 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome Bike < 1364969611 144902 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1364969637 280583 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thx shachaf < 1364969647 648479 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: So have you learned about rank-2 types yet? < 1364969648 579749 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-14-72.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm probably not in a position to answer that... I *enjoyed* it more in Japanese, but when I watched it in English I had much less serotonin floating around. < 1364969673 345702 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :more like serotonout am i right < 1364969682 235781 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :maltese is apparently derived from arabic, with mixed-in italian and sicilian vocabulary < 1364969900 130600 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: personal issues? < 1364969930 538202 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-14-72.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Antidepressants are great, man. < 1364969931 270950 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah he was just chillin' in a pool filled with neurotransmitters < 1364969938 596795 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: wheeeeee < 1364969983 983851 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, so what you're really saying is that MLP is better on drugs < 1364970033 780592 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-14-72.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, drugs that enhance your ability to derive pleasure from things, enhance the pleasure derived from things. < 1364970053 201599 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pbflist < 1364970054 654481 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf Sgeo quintopia < 1364970085 784998 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: die < 1364970390 262059 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1364970483 40320 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1364970581 349147 :btiffin!~btiffin@CPE002369b7648c-CM0014e88ec3b0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1364971304 635960 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1364971361 287691 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1364971427 336908 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1364972215 768729 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1364972276 666228 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1364972307 306673 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony JOIN :#esoteric < 1364972998 295638 :ThatOtherPersonY!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony JOIN :#esoteric < 1364973010 559672 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1364973127 566230 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1364974158 315766 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.112 JOIN :#esoteric < 1364974845 35914 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1364974946 373789 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1364975384 110528 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.112 QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1364975589 549784 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony JOIN :#esoteric < 1364975637 23365 :ThatOtherPersonY!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1364975701 853738 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1364975869 562403 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1364975927 662468 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK????!!!?!?!?!?!!!??? < 1364975946 756061 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you do that yet? < 1364976000 267781 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: What? < 1364976015 843356 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If not, it doesn't matter anyways. < 1364976479 59591 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did zzo38 finally lose it completely? < 1364976567 296446 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a difference? No. < 1364976592 213081 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that's a "yes". < 1364976602 340482 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, there is not a difference. < 1364976935 522740 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am glad that esolang wiki has not upgraded; the new stuff (even other than removing some skins) is completely crazy! < 1364977064 974278 :btiffin!~btiffin@CPE002369b7648c-CM0014e88ec3b0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PART :#esoteric < 1364977293 427482 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1364977418 70752 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pblist? < 1364977438 315703 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Paddington Bear? < 1364977448 393976 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know that. < 1364977450 67801 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pb usually means peanut butter ime < 1364977451 789471 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :4look again < 1364977467 383812 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm surprised you haven't made a Gopher proxy for the wiki already < 1364977647 170011 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :A generic Gopher plugin for MediaWiki? < 1364977657 898385 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could make some which is read-only; however, the wiki has too much formatting and stuff is needed... < 1364977666 841567 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would work with simpler wikis though. < 1364977712 780762 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure you could persuade elliott "the energetic wiki sysadmin" elliott to install a Gopher plugin. < 1364977796 157328 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would a gopher plugin for esolang wiki be useful in any ways anyways? I don't think so! < 1364977907 783976 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist < 1364977911 180036 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1364977913 822824 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If there is one, you can say what it is; that way, is more persuasion and more explanation too. < 1364978123 251877 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could not find one with a cursory search. < 1364978132 186843 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Which is maybe slightly surprising?) < 1364978192 370543 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you expect it to do? < 1364978328 705787 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would think it'd offer at least that read-only access to the wiki in question over the gopher protocol. I don't know what sort of menus it would have. < 1364978374 190699 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly the menus for each category, is what menus it would have. < 1364978397 277228 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the pages are written clearly enough, rendering them may not even be needed at all. < 1364978423 635583 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1364978433 332710 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gopher can serve HTML if needed, but generally you should use plain text if possible, to use on computers and programs and so on that are not HTML. < 1364978456 706994 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there are some existing tools for rendering MediaWiki markup into a plaintext approximation. < 1364978584 765966 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also think that such a thing would not be a MediaWiki extension, but a separate program (possibly running on the same computer as the MediaWiki, accessing the same database). But, yes, such tools may be helpful for such purpose, I suppose. The file archive on esolang could also be accessed in the same gopher service. < 1364978614 982703 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1364978687 404883 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is this correct? < 1364978732 386353 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know anything about MediaWiki extensions. But if they are bits and pieces of PHP, possibly it indeed makes more sense for it to be a separate program using the same database. < 1364979822 657004 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1364979843 892792 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1364979898 219826 :DH____!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1364979903 973270 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1364979936 514429 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1364979937 950217 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Random thought: 0xfull == 15. < 1364980000 928172 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :0x0 == 0 < 1364980037 528365 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: possible loss of precision in comparison < 1364980046 368972 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, hmm, probably not < 1364980053 269203 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably both sides get cast to unsigned long long? < 1364980083 95706 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The usual arithmetic conversions are performed." < 1364980123 826827 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Do you prefer one of Yoneda/CoYoneda? < 1364980138 318677 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: no, partly because I don't know what they are < 1364980144 563838 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they get mentioned here every now and then, though < 1364980144 757837 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The unsigned type has a rank greater than or equal of the rank of the signed one, so the 15 gets converted to unsigned long long. < 1364980149 963552 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :0xDEADBULL < 1364980159 397821 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :newtype Yoneda f a = Yoneda { runYoneda :: forall b. (a -> b) -> f b } < 1364980163 278524 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :data CoYoneda f a = forall x. CoYoneda (f x) (x -> a) < 1364980165 483984 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it hasn't yet been converted to 0xDEADBEEF < 1364980210 247533 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :0xFEEDAF0E 0xBADDECAF < 1364980255 308446 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :0z5HACHAF (it's base-18). < 1364980257 484948 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if we 0xCULL a 0xBULL we end up with 0xDEADBEEF? I don't know where I'm going with this < 1364980273 826684 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: imo this is 0xadeadfad < 1364980285 614489 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's all very 0xDULL. < 1364980305 917769 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1364980306 352511 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 0xfull < 1364980308 167892 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `ull' < 1364980308 359568 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Perhaps you meant one of these: < 1364980308 359739 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : `all' (imported fro... < 1364980313 310601 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1364980319 757370 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let ull = ull in 0xfull < 1364980321 802836 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 15 < 1364980342 722431 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn ull < 1364980343 222067 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*** "ull" wn "WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)" < 1364980343 413086 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ull < 1364980343 413174 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : n 1: (Norse mythology) one of the Aesir known for his beauty and < 1364980343 413219 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : skill with bow and skis; son of Sif and stepson of Thor < 1364980343 413282 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [syn: {Ull}, {Ullr}] < 1364980345 748926 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: counting dots was great < 1364980376 557020 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it must be too late at night because I'm laughing at that XD < 1364980377 47216 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this morning's test was kinda like the game simon, except with a number of squares that doubled at every good answer, rather than always four squares < 1364980404 609538 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sonuds tricky < 1364980424 267169 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and sequences getting longer and longer AND a very limited time to give an answer < 1364980443 898738 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :near the end he blew a correct answer because I was one second late :( < 1364980468 726512 :ThatOtherPersonY!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony JOIN :#esoteric < 1364980493 719602 :ThatOtherPersonY!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :O_o < 1364980517 483295 :ThatOtherPersonY!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just had a Red Screen of Death < 1364980526 175899 :ThatOtherPersonY!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :And had to reboot my computer < 1364980536 103504 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1364980542 320355 :ThatOtherPersonY!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :but um... I've never even heard of a Red Screen of Death before < 1364980552 217528 :ThatOtherPersonY!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony NICK :ThatOtherPerson < 1364980553 665157 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't hear either. < 1364980560 959217 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But now you told me. < 1364980632 261999 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1364980655 913913 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ThatOtherPerson: way to spoil windows! < 1364980702 264128 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The color of the blue screen of death is customizable, at least. But maybe this was something else. < 1364980704 747516 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found a chart in Wikipedia of religious % of people who belief evolution is a good explanation of human life on Earth. The most is Buddhist 81%. Unaffiliated is 72%, Jewish is 77%, Catholic is 58%, Jehovah's Witness is 8%. The total population surveyed has 48% in favor of the evolution explanation. < 1364980852 169847 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :It wasn't like a BSOD either; it was completely red < 1364980857 112700 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was no text < 1364980902 781425 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was it blood? < 1364980917 536221 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I don't think so. < 1364980925 746221 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps it was digital blood? < 1364980928 567936 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could it have been a cable coming loose? < 1364980934 634322 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: are you belief evolution is a good explanation of human life on Earth < 1364980938 484823 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it's a laptop < 1364980952 549587 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it stopped when I restarted the computer < 1364980960 658707 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :I get the feeling that it was one of those things that isn't supposed to happen that isn't supposed to happen. < 1364980974 962066 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Yes. I think the theory of evolution is a good theory. It may not be perfect, but that is why corrections are made is new thing are figure out! < 1364980981 479090 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :As opposed to a BSOD, which is one of those things that isn't supposed to happen which is supposed to happen. < 1364980995 838466 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run quote evolution | shuf < 1364980998 261681 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The wrong wrong thing and the right wrong thing. < 1364980998 808507 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1364981002 318254 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also never seen red screen of death. < 1364981012 522856 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run quote telescop | shuf < 1364981014 628434 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1364981018 688497 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run quote charcoal | shuf < 1364981020 860262 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :29) is there a problem with it being carbonized :D yes: carbonized coffee bean is known more commonly as "charcoal" < 1364981085 285399 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run quote $(words) | shuf < 1364981091 957865 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1364981095 665172 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :One day that will return an output. < 1364981219 609598 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some people say evolution is no good; it is just a theory. Some people say, no; it is a fact. But those people seem to not understand. Evolution *is* a theory (not a fact), but a scientific theory is one that has the scientific method and all that; and it happens to be a very good theory. < 1364981249 152842 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you agree? < 1364981461 737287 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run words | (read w; echo "$w: $(quote $w | shuf -n 1)") < 1364981470 311286 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :afia: < 1364981480 75107 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net NICK :Taneb < 1364981483 659170 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dang. (Both two of my in-query tests produced something.) < 1364981572 405749 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`which shuf < 1364981578 898169 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Evolution is a theory that agrees with people's observations. Sometimes I guess we need to make small modifications to that theory to make it fit better. It's probably pretty correct tho. < 1364981579 478136 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/usr/bin/shuf < 1364981598 338938 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that's handy < 1364981600 640378 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run words | (read w; echo "$w: $(quote $w | shuf -n 1)") # NOT GIVING UP < 1364981602 190669 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least it's more correct than saying some random creature created the world < 1364981605 836844 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :hexact: < 1364981610 360252 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :So close. < 1364981617 7525 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote hexham < 1364981619 696781 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :622) also, why isn't monqy from Hexham? his name sounds like he should be \ 691) oh right: Frooxius, you wouldn't happen to live in Hexham, would you? No, sorry. phew How about Finland? Why would I live there? That's a *very* good question. Why would anyone? \ 955) drinks should come in long long pipes that drip liquid at varying speeds, and you shouldn't just casually taste to them, you should really try to understand what the artist (the canposer?) was trying to convey when making the drink olsner: well you know i'm a genius. anyway i like how food works tho, because it has bo < 1364981745 930091 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, if made up at random it will perhaps sometimes make up real words too that is how they do. < 1364981766 176112 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I think I am atheist. Although I like to call myself realist more < 1364981770 352630 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"canposer" is a nice word. < 1364981789 720658 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :If someone could give me great proof that God exists, I would probably check it out < 1364981826 285716 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is no proof that God does or does not exist; it isn't that kind of thing. However, do you know ignostic? I am also ignostic, so consider that, too. < 1364981916 812202 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Well, I'm not sure if I understand "ignostic"... but, does it mean that a God if well defined might be possible? < 1364981928 57103 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although there is no clear definition of God? < 1364981987 836226 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not believe in a personal God, in a anthropomorphic God, in a "sky fairy" God, in a God that directly created the world in a few days or whatever, etc. However, I do believe in God (but not necessarily what you mean by "God"). < 1364982020 826327 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: How would I know? < 1364982052 398734 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/MTIG that's probably not good. < 1364982067 892920 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I do not believe in the kind of God that created the universe because that seems like a contradiction to me < 1364982070 795430 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have now got 5 stars on all set-list songs on Guitar Hero 3 < 1364982105 257801 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :although if someone could proof there was such a god / show observations that point in that direction, I would reconsider < 1364982123 852390 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :But currently, it seems pretty much impossible < 1364982149 843609 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Then in what kind of god do you believe? < 1364982167 946553 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :A lazy god? < 1364982188 978700 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: How many stars are there? < 1364982191 298479 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :and he's called... HASKELL! < 1364982213 829562 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe that the universe is part of God, and that you could say God created everything but it would be extremely indirect! < 1364982220 922947 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :5 < 1364982224 19411 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I was under the impression that it had some sort of difficulty levels. < 1364982245 727186 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: I do not think assigning qualities such as "lazy" and so on to God is meaningful, unless perhaps you mean lazy evaluation. < 1364982247 240889 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: So you believe in some sort of multi-verse? < 1364982249 291679 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Maybe.) < 1364982263 802903 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :medium < 1364982264 482326 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: Yes. However, that too, must be part of God. < 1364982285 205091 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm. Seems a little unending-recursive to me < 1364982316 926463 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yeah, who knows < 1364982347 539073 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now to start on the bonus songs < 1364982452 913822 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: what if we're actually in the matrix? < 1364982484 91859 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: Then what is the matrix in? < 1364982502 872106 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: in the matrix < 1364982512 255422 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that matrix is also in a matrix < 1364982550 667160 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK. I don't believe we are in the matrix, but of course I don't know; for the sake of the argument I will call it reasonable. < 1364982578 393637 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think it makes much difference < 1364982641 935617 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't change what God is, though, in what I mean by that. In what you mean by that, it might, though. < 1364982680 234456 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I notice that in a statement "God exists" not only is it not entirely clear what "God" means but also it is not known what "exists" means in this context, either. < 1364982700 145300 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: What about the theory where ais523, who came from the year 523 (I have reason to suspect ais523 is actually pope Hormisdas), and then created the matrix where he put us all in? < 1364982721 613609 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok probably not that likely < 1364982746 992153 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: I don't think that is likely or reasonable, but it doesn't change it anyways. < 1364982803 284379 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if there does not exist a supernatural creature? That's what I like to believe. < 1364982820 36666 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :God is more like an idea to me. < 1364982825 319357 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not mean by "God", some kind of supernatural creature. < 1364982842 521349 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :what /do/ you mean by God? < 1364982859 673351 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it something physical? < 1364982911 719394 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No! Physical things are in the universe, the universe is in (maybe) some multiverse, is in ..., is in mathematics, is in ... [infinitely much, possibly?], is in God < 1364982941 950503 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Therefore, God is not in spacetime, so it doesn't make sense to say what comes before God, nor what comes after God. < 1364982947 837843 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :where is God in? < 1364982959 984617 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :God. < 1364982989 499799 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1364982999 480379 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :the universe in /in/ mathematics? < 1364983015 725395 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't you mean: mathematics can be used to describe the universe < 1364983041 33489 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do think I made some mistakes there; I didn't really mean all of that literally like I said. < 1364983055 288432 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just meant that it is all a part of God. < 1364983062 322235 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :So actually you're saying God is the universe set < 1364983069 321130 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :*universal < 1364983096 71593 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, mathematics can be used to describe the universe. < 1364983102 998298 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I'd just call it the universal set then < 1364983107 458653 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :not "God" or anything < 1364983115 203806 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: That is probably the closest concept you have, but it is not precisely what I meant. < 1364983153 477334 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Is God idea you have conscious? < 1364983190 613135 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh < 1364983190 855544 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that is describing with words. Not everything you can describe with words! < 1364983207 670371 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Is this God idea of yours conscious?" < 1364983229 27491 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, why wouldn't you be able to answer that < 1364983230 693524 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just a property < 1364983241 385960 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it have a free will? < 1364983295 174986 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is difficult. I suppose you could say yes, but in other words it is also no; that is what makes it difficult. I also find it difficult to explain why this is. < 1364983312 354288 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And what I mean by this isn't contradictory.) < 1364983353 549721 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also don't mean that I don't know; even though I don't know. < 1364983389 422104 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :that does sound like a contradiction to me < 1364983393 444897 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :"yes and no" < 1364983398 256369 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I know but I also don't" < 1364983415 450709 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is not at all what I meant. I simply am unable to explain what I mean. < 1364983420 165483 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would either mean contradiction or it would mean something in between < 1364983426 891894 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1364983460 558572 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, I can try a little bit, by asking a question: Can you precisely define what you mean by "consciousness" and "free will"? < 1364983530 781985 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well I think conscious could be defined by 1. can it do self reflection 2. can it think of the future < 1364983541 106981 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's probably incomplete though < 1364983574 432372 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :as for free will, can it make independent decisions (some people think humans can't) < 1364983594 268724 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For 1. I suppose yes; for 2. you still need to define "think" though; furthermore, as to the future, that has to do with time, so what future do you mean, specifically? < 1364983656 155222 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: can it plan what it's going to do / should do in the future < 1364983665 279404 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :eg. I can plan making a city trip tomorrow < 1364983679 78922 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can even imagine how that would be (roughly) < 1364983680 623643 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For independent decisions, it means, independent from what? What is there to be independent from? < 1364983712 748281 :nooodl__!~nooodl@91.177.109.136 JOIN :#esoteric < 1364983713 343604 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And for the future, that is an error because time is really a function of the universe, not directly of God, surely! < 1364983717 531827 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :independent from the exterior < 1364983743 156635 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: oh right, I forgot that God was a 1 dimensional being < 1364983747 57187 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :although that's impossible < 1364983763 344342 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :We always think of times as being some sort of "absolute" even though we have theories to know it isn't. < 1364983766 565977 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you can never put n dimension into n-1 dimensions? < 1364983782 986323 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or am I wrong about that last < 1364983818 568308 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did not mean God was a 1 dimensional being, or really a "being". However, in some cases you can put n dimension into n-1 dimensions, I think. < 1364983865 951667 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: well s/being/entity < 1364983904 253326 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe 0-dimensional would be a better description, but I am unsure. < 1364983905 251914 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think if you want to put an n dimension object into n - 1 dimensions you'd have to make a projection of it < 1364983925 800625 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means it would become n - 1 dimensional < 1364983969 68784 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: That is one way. However, I can also make a one-dimensional chess game which is the same as the two-dimensional chess game. < 1364984008 725312 :nooodl__!~nooodl@91.177.109.136 QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1364984019 520233 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Really? I'm not sure about that. The basic concept is the same, but it isn't exactly the same right? < 1364984040 860040 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, that's definitely not possible for everything < 1364984056 377689 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1364984058 994661 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :eg. you can't make a non-animated animation < 1364984072 473837 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: Yes, I know, it is not possible for everything. But it is possible; you can look it up if you want to! < 1364984200 275554 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spinoza said "Whatsoever is, is in God, and without God nothing can be, or be conceived." [7] "Individual things are nothing but modifications of the attributes of God, or modes by which the attributes of God are expressed in a fixed and definite manner." [8] < 1364984211 124370 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(These numbers are footnotes in Wikipedia) < 1364984266 323574 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The world is not God, but it is, in a strong sense, "in" God. (Also according to Wikipedia; same paragraph) < 1364984282 639622 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone else said "God doesn't exist." I guess < 1364984316 555221 :nooodl__!~nooodl@91.177.109.136 JOIN :#esoteric < 1364984341 298650 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, probably many people have. Probably many people have said "God exists", too. < 1364984350 366032 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1364984369 652766 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's just a little unlikely how everything is in some abstract entity known as God < 1364984396 143467 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think infinity doesn't exist in practice < 1364984418 475830 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :well not in practice < 1364984425 409966 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :in physical sense < 1364984434 276837 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :the universe isn't on infinite size < 1364984437 463878 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :*of < 1364984484 130777 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1364984508 911287 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I understand you, perhaps you are correct; you can have your own beliefs. But I think mathematics is a "higher reality" than the universe. < 1364984540 245706 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, as long as people don't use god as an excuse for stuff or reason to do something bad, they can think whatever they want < 1364984566 202022 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like "oh let's kill them because gods wants us to" < 1364984609 899741 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do agree with you that using God as an excuse for all this stuff is a bad idea; I am against that kind of stuff as much as you are, probably. < 1364984890 105547 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1364985452 255109 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1364986086 802804 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq "122333444455555"F:u[vv^^{1\/?/2\/LG}m[?*++ < 1364986098 920526 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. < 1364986185 342607 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: do you have the pdf for that compression algorithm in English too? < 1364986189 405537 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :My german isn't that great < 1364986269 901799 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1364986502 345522 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well. I can write one if you like. < 1364986720 842882 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't think anybody would be interested in it so I didn't bother with an english one. < 1364986872 546833 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1364987019 311482 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1364987356 337362 :jix!~jix@jixco.de QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1364987392 348297 :jix!~jix@jixco.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1364987518 982349 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :It appears that my code has a heisenbug < 1364987545 614395 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1364987667 784250 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1364987765 464976 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ThatOtherPerson: You need to use a deplancker. < 1364987778 594124 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1364987800 780189 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's this kind of a spray that removes quantum effects. < 1364987920 178111 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds like a very fine spray. < 1364988329 935052 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's made of tiny eyeballs. < 1364988347 41542 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :GET IT? BECAUSE PEOPLE HONESTLY THINK THAT QUANTUM MECHANICS HAS TO DO WITH OBSERVATION. < 1364988383 449633 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1364989008 533759 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1364989084 907802 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1364989280 717723 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1364989285 898244 :ThatOtherPersonY!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony JOIN :#esoteric < 1364989318 230700 :ThatOtherPersonY!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1364989347 565065 :ThatOtherPersonY!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony JOIN :#esoteric < 1364990500 237041 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1364990640 409339 :ThatOtherPersonY!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1364990924 21607 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1364991021 51323 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1364991062 57623 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@91-145-118-87.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1364991177 191516 :kyyni!~jokarkka@melkinpaasi.cs.helsinki.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1364991424 229874 :kyyni!~jokarkka@melkinpaasi.cs.helsinki.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1364991517 858936 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1364991690 359511 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1364991742 183774 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1364991801 512470 :bengt_!weed@ya.lolk.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1364991880 728876 :bengt_!weed@ya.lolk.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1364992669 556743 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: Why are you actually interested, if I may ask. < 1364992926 252904 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1364993012 510784 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1364993631 113294 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: I'm always interested in new compression algorithms < 1364993675 582245 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I needed to compress text some time ago < 1364993689 894363 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I'm going to need to do that again < 1364993726 194318 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :with just really small texts. I want to see whether you can use this in combination with something like gzip though < 1364994042 236644 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1364994067 959016 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1364994424 25988 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony JOIN :#esoteric < 1364994435 509052 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1364994726 725829 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: I should've trained more with your game < 1364994794 588243 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1364994801 721480 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1364994832 397416 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1364996121 670264 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1364996223 535849 :GOMADWarrior!~Regis@187.65.192.206 JOIN :#esoteric < 1364996226 189691 :carado_!~carado@static.29.44.47.78.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1364997575 556144 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1364997686 911721 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1364997746 618537 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Recently I've been ordering Coke with various syrup flavor shots, because the little shop in the Purdue CS department gives me that option so why not. < 1364997754 431315 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Discovery: Coke with coconut syrup is not a good idea. < 1364997997 220085 :nooodl__!~nooodl@91.177.109.136 NICK :nooodl < 1364998109 120101 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tromp_, oerjan, the translation of the Prime sieve for Real Fast Nora's Hair Salon 3: Shear Disaster Download changes only one half of the IO conventions < 1364998143 128000 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, nevermind < 1364998358 110169 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: how come? coconut usually tastes pretty good. < 1364998374 800046 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not with Coke. < 1364998380 68575 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I definitely like coconut. < 1364998383 59620 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :... but not with Coke. < 1364998387 11788 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1364998456 921605 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-148.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :atriq: right; because primes usees only the output half. it ignores input:) < 1364998513 289975 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I completely misunderstood what the output was trying to be < 1364998621 136538 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-148.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'th char is '1' (ascii 49) iff i is prime < 1364998630 709659 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if I brought a bot in that always replied to what fungot said with fungot in the message < 1364998631 216200 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: went to bed). i have used such a device is a wacom fnord). < 1364998632 340639 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-148.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise '0' (ascii 48) < 1364998636 292391 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :would it start a conversation? < 1364998693 709057 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1364998699 154162 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Until fizzie made it not < 1364998779 441692 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck fizzie < 1364998780 178890 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1364998935 265518 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: How are you today? < 1364998940 655387 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1364998945 578134 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would start a conversation for a few lines < 1364998946 577883 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then stop < 1364998946 843008 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: How are you today? < 1364998947 105163 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: s location sucks.)" < 1364998973 182748 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, what if AnotherTest's bot had a delayer built in? < 1364998997 993787 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is not time-based < 1364999136 986916 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is a house in new fungot < 1364999137 658653 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :atriq: or the compiler could fnord the machine code requirement, but we need a fnord to use ( fnord function expression*) and ( min) < 1364999141 476293 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they call the fungot fungot < 1364999141 861220 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :atriq: i wrote an article about that. couldn't have been ' development.' ' a. < 1364999148 470586 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's been the ruin of many fungot < 1364999148 756324 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :atriq: i dunno why this is happening < 1364999154 867568 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and fungot knew was one < 1364999155 201535 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :atriq: ' lo fnord :p.) and humorous, though. < 1364999159 825785 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot what < 1364999168 201284 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, good test < 1364999173 702547 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot yay < 1364999178 927301 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net NICK :Ngevd < 1364999180 437038 :Ngevd!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot < 1364999180 698767 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1364999180 961099 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: or the files? sockets? last time i had problem with it < 1364999186 143700 :Ngevd!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net NICK :atriq < 1364999188 427 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot < 1364999188 472571 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :atriq: yet more evidence that catfive is at least memorable. when i use syntax-case i can no longer face the torment < 1364999194 805110 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, what if it changed nicks < 1364999210 271349 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would probably work < 1364999228 279949 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-163.elisa.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1364999268 613470 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does fungot base some part of its messages on what's being said? Or just totally random generated text? < 1364999268 923263 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: i think. i mean when i say you don't want infix function calls. < 1364999360 192000 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :latter < 1364999385 856321 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-163.elisa.ee QUIT :Client Quit < 1364999467 377496 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's fungot opinion on the Underhanded C contest? < 1364999467 729564 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ThatOtherPerson: says mikrobitti but doesn't mention how one'd get the number of < 1364999522 294785 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I will not put! < 1364999522 830202 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ThatOtherPerson: but unload: pop *top fnord if possible from the relevant stacks of stacks of function pointers < 1364999543 635653 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is fungot so obsessed with fnords all of a sudden < 1364999543 903366 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ThatOtherPerson: the language list < 1364999560 936570 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which language list? < 1364999575 421946 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the `list. < 1365000032 206740 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ThatOtherPerson, it uses fnord as "I didn't get enough examples of this word so I didn't bother remembering it" < 1365000198 255293 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't type `list, especially in-channel < 1365000204 603565 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1365000205 580343 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'll annoy a bunch of people < 1365000229 503678 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`list < 1365000231 950565 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523 atriq Bike boily cuttlefish elliott fgrep Fiora fungot metasepia monqy Ngevd nortti oklopol Phantom_Hoover pikhq quintopia Sgeo SUPREME_BUTT_SUI Taneb < 1365000253 261670 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mayswell type it know, ThatOtherPerson < 1365000407 15308 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1365000443 946863 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm < 1365000453 534866 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how hard it'd be to play dwarf fortress via ssh < 1365000488 779458 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :atriq: probably not hard, if I compare that to my experience with crawl. < 1365000648 858420 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, what's the font Dwarf Fortress uses in its graphical interface? < 1365000717 865504 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a reproduction of CP437 from the elder days. < 1365000723 315408 :carado_!~carado@static.29.44.47.78.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1365000723 632004 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably fixedsys or something. < 1365000793 584946 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then, you have stuff like this, confusing the matter: http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/Tileset_repository < 1365001084 746443 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow i missed some deep philosophy < 1365001153 257970 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar CYUL < 1365001154 40233 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 031400Z 26021G31KT 30SM OVC200 M03/M13 A2997 RMK CI8 CF TR SLP150 < 1365001156 561781 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: yes < 1365001303 904622 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1365001472 502565 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1365001828 1906 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony JOIN :#esoteric < 1365001913 876228 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1365002610 764092 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: I see. < 1365002745 304122 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar KBOS < 1365002745 580913 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :KBOS 031454Z 27019G27KT 10SM FEW050 SCT250 03/M13 A2997 RMK AO2 PK WND 27031/1405 SLP149 T00331133 57010 < 1365002852 531179 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did deadfish replace Emmental on the front page < 1365002855 368103 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how dit that happen < 1365002919 676695 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: windy for you too? < 1365003093 749090 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :generic random haskell question: what is Traversable? < 1365003108 562522 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a fun thing of fun < 1365003115 233623 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t T.traverse < 1365003116 405575 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Couldn't find qualified module. < 1365003118 878958 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t traverse < 1365003120 409719 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Applicative f, Traversable t) => (a -> f b) -> t a -> f (t b) < 1365003125 981441 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the core of it < 1365003143 992603 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's something you can map an applicative action over and collect the effects, basically < 1365003216 114034 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval traverse Just [1, 2, 3] < 1365003219 376140 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Error (1): < 1365003220 633156 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval traverse Just [1, 2, 3] < 1365003222 824890 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just [1,2,3] < 1365003233 959143 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: an administrator waved a magic wand < 1365003283 514156 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval traverse (\x -> if even x then Just x else Nothing) [1..4] < 1365003284 357117 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing < 1365003331 584391 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval traverse (\x -> (Sum x, x `div` 2)) [1..4] < 1365003332 134274 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Sum {getSum = 10},[0,1,1,2]) < 1365003345 233441 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1365003356 329177 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooooooh. < 1365003367 81133 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'm beginning to be illuminated. < 1365003392 323982 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1365003397 205932 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval traverse (show x, x) [1..4] < 1365003397 699166 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Error (1): Not in scope: `x'Not in scope: `x' < 1365003405 166792 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval traverse (\x -> show x, x) [1..4] < 1365003405 671104 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Error (1): Not in scope: `x' < 1365003411 150967 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval traverse (\x -> (show x, x)) [1..4] < 1365003411 646351 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :("1234",[1,2,3,4]) < 1365003451 905386 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION puts on his glasses of +5 protection from radiance
< 1365003509 468126 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: why should you have trained more? are you being tested for astronautship or something? < 1365003513 661923 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval traverse (\x -> [x, x + 1, x + 2]) (Just 4) < 1365003514 98686 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[Just 4,Just 5,Just 6] < 1365003520 435373 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval traverse (\x -> [x, x + 1, x + 2]) [1..3] < 1365003520 923445 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[1,2,3],[1,2,4],[1,2,5],[1,3,3],[1,3,4],[1,3,5],[1,4,3],[1,4,4],[1,4,5],[2,2,3],[2,2,4],[2,2,5],[2,3,3],[2,3,4],[2,3,5],[2,4,3],[2,4,4],[2,4,5],[3,2,3],[3,2,4],[3,2,5],[3,3,3],[3,3,4],[3,3,5],[3,4,3],[3,4,4],[3,4,5]] < 1365003524 182922 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually i think you mentioned what these tests are about but i have no idea < 1365003556 443573 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok, a computer science school that some rich guy is paying for < 1365003558 928705 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc < 1365003584 222837 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1365003664 116508 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd love a school that teaches these sorts of important skills instead of just testing your ability in them and then teaching you something else < 1365003666 850385 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1365003672 200717 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :counting dots 101 < 1365003693 231236 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :when i get rich there's gonna be such a school < 1365003703 260343 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what tests < 1365003731 856161 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_'s ability to remember sequences and make pictures out of triangles are being tested < 1365003887 352016 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...Martin Freeman will be in all three of the Blood and Ice Cream trilogy < 1365004475 297824 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-28-243.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1365004513 694017 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-28-243.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1365004513 888259 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1365004600 250603 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: https://github.com/FMNSSun/noe/raw/master/noe_en.pdf < 1365004605 878594 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :^- is that good enough? < 1365004612 386390 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow thanks < 1365004629 657033 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1365004696 637066 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1365004713 357455 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are some typos probably :) < 1365004735 342262 :ineiros_!~itniemin@bayesianconspiracy.org QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1365004756 678632 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I probably should mention the parameters I used :) < 1365005043 753979 :ineiros!~itniemin@bayesianconspiracy.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1365005351 790020 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1365005364 967657 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok. I updated it. < 1365005370 669873 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :it now includes also some calculations ;) < 1365006531 621086 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: Botloops are kind of a channel tradition, but usually (well, I don't have hard stats on this) they're been done using vaguely quine-like tools. There's one really short one in Underload. < 1365006539 443128 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Though regular chat-loops have happened too.) < 1365006586 778404 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1365006602 449321 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not that scary! < 1365006605 662944 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1365006610 882528 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Come on. < 1365006613 507504 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1365006625 567407 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry my client completely crashed < 1365006634 44848 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Botloops of the first kind are still possible with fungot; it only has the "only reply up to four times consecutively to the same bot" rule for chat, not ^commands. But it also has an ignore list of known bots. < 1365006634 370827 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: writing out memoized versions of the program than it's formatting < 1365006641 836435 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1365006646 942560 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(One day I'll adopt the Gregor solution™.) < 1365006677 665533 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That's prefixing every line of output with a zero-width space so it doesn't trigger commands that are triggered with a prefix.) < 1365006680 201028 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :gregor solution is worst solution < 1365006695 168047 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Actually I only prefix lines that don't match /^[A-Za-z0-9]/ < 1365006708 914016 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :my new bot prefix: 0 < 1365006726 666560 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: That's even fancier. < 1365006745 61056 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ignore < 1365006745 255140 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :^(EgoBot|HackEgo|toBogE|Sparkbot|optbot|lambdabot|oonbotti|metasepia|jconn)! < 1365006759 161325 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Don't you mean that your new bot prefix is zero-width space? < 1365006775 271087 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1365006776 342985 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :good idea < 1365006778 930839 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365007435 529265 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365007456 903701 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1365007458 297293 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: The algorithm can be optimised to perform better on longer texts by using prefixes etc. to encode to length of the positions etc. etc. < 1365007469 873412 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :it however doesn't stand a chance against other compression algorithms < 1365007480 985673 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :with longer texts. < 1365007486 31752 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I therefore did not describe that. < 1365007587 504919 :NuclearMeltdown!~rep@unaffiliated/antiliberal PART :#esoteric < 1365007811 312864 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1365008574 144345 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/15792934/how-is-merge-and-split-not-in-scope-haskell < 1365008679 191428 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haskell is so confusing < 1365008755 624347 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :as a professional expert confusion consultant, I concur. < 1365008819 820539 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, iain m banks is dying. < 1365008858 424654 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1365008881 459232 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-148.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :methinks a language that avoids confusion altogether can't beall that great < 1365008888 702916 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1365009100 453902 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1365009424 362518 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe the best language is one that causes the most possible amount of confusion < 1365009468 407216 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means that java is pretty poor, but C++ is excellent? < 1365009520 449516 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, yes < 1365009589 76332 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is something to be said for deceptive simplicity though - and I think C++ often seems close to as confusing as it is < 1365009600 157406 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-148.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's only goof if the confusion can be overcome and lead to enlightenment < 1365009602 861655 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-148.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1365009638 911505 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :therefore, the best language out there is lisp. < 1365009805 68991 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1365010387 685863 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1365010394 695617 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1365010839 633505 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :You meant to say Smalltalk. < 1365010983 750491 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony JOIN :#esoteric < 1365011065 568582 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, i am spartacus < 1365011342 525361 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1365011373 234318 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1365011506 104685 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am alive < 1365011575 331306 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not < 1365011576 416298 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm making a note here: Huge success. < 1365011701 144036 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is the success that I am alive or that not is elliott? < 1365011811 645994 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's hard to understate my satisfaction < 1365011909 791330 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :atriq: I was considering saying that it was hard to overstate my dissatisfaction. < 1365011914 942903 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I was too dissatisfied. < 1365011919 25318 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thank you for doing what you must. < 1365011920 135193 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because. < 1365011920 957072 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can. < 1365011962 619125 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I exist, therefore I Can-adian. < 1365012006 847727 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I or elliott exist. < 1365012011 898443 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott does not exist. < 1365012015 265017 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Therefore I exist < 1365012021 815420 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :I both exist and don't exist < 1365012026 131996 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :at the same time < 1365012035 12549 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then I'm the pope < 1365012066 314550 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did that just happen < 1365012167 692763 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :ni < 1365012170 908067 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :*no < 1365012175 564413 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it did not < 1365012184 401942 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1365012184 594075 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We are not the knights who say ni < 1365012190 164193 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They aren't us < 1365012211 395564 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365012237 604494 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, we are the coders who say "it" < 1365012253 621648 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1365012259 530909 :AnotherTest1!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1365012274 745063 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :somebody make an h2g2 joke so i can flop around in shame < 1365012389 365906 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.115.210.249 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365012410 800389 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait where is the h2g2 joke < 1365012422 972594 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know any < 1365012430 986211 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I MUST FLOP < 1365012459 865806 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :flop like uhhh zem < 1365012462 452233 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :remember zem < 1365012466 498482 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :from squornthingy zeta! < 1365012470 350834 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the mattress planet. AM I HELPING < 1365012477 982599 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION flops all over elliott
< 1365012484 122121 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :were you around yesterday when Koen_ told us all about the 42 institute of computer science and horrible nerd culture < 1365012498 456938 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yesh < 1365012512 821737 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're right i'll have to flop all over him too < 1365012516 145859 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a yes or a yeesh < 1365012531 927353 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: oh boy what did i miss < 1365012541 739400 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw i like h2g2 :---/ < 1365012543 890695 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess i forgot to tell you to check the logs < 1365012556 750003 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In Finland we have a saying: ‘Pitäkää tunkkinne’. It means: I fucking tried to pay for this, but your service only promotes piracy through rather expensive pricing, shitty image quality — and, well, unfortunately also your programs are unnecessarily late." < 1365012560 578701 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i liked h2g2 when i read it!! i read it a lot of times i own the complete edition with all the books it's big and....blue? < 1365012561 34062 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like monty python and portal too < 1365012569 41730 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :... finnish is quite terse < 1365012573 101861 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: ye i own a combined one too (possibly the same one? i dont think its blue) < 1365012579 130653 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's real good < 1365012580 921774 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well there are 2 combined ones < 1365012583 650879 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :one is green and one is blue < 1365012584 493989 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The one with the grinning circle on the cover? < 1365012591 302870 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the one I've got. < 1365012591 497463 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :both have a grinning circle < 1365012592 106795 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok you know more about combined h2g2 editions than me monqy < 1365012594 46376 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you a COLLECTOR < 1365012599 593541 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well like < 1365012604 746322 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the grinning circle is green? < 1365012612 470375 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the grinning circle can also be blue < 1365012623 849430 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok well i have the green circle one < 1365012628 81167 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have to find my copy then i can tell you all about how it's exactly the same except it's blue and has another book in it < 1365012645 188289 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mine has the uh, young zaphod gets stoned, or whatever it's called < 1365012647 417466 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i actually don't mind the tired h2g2 references unless they're really really tired like 42 b/c it's just nice to see it < 1365012759 656911 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunately the only reference anyone can fucking bother with is 42 soooooooooooooooo < 1365012769 557477 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :42 < 1365012786 913305 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: um there's also almost but not entirely unlike X < 1365012789 157727 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: the koen Thing in question is http://www.42.fr just so you know < 1365012790 108862 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and uh < 1365012803 694056 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hanging in the air the way bricks don't < 1365012807 28211 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :something about whales? < 1365012810 674732 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh or the drink < 1365012817 640425 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :getting smashed in with a golden brick or whatever? < 1365012832 637510 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's also MarvinPA [laugh track] < 1365012842 340985 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(rest of the channel that isnt monqy: ignore above line) < 1365012884 666425 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: what the heckers is this < 1365012918 285703 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :some french internet guy doing a learny thing < 1365012918 751602 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :42 < 1365012920 70436 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uuuuugh i forget where i put it ~all those years ago~ < 1365012921 786610 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :42 42 < 1365012935 146471 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :filled with Nerd Jokes apparently < 1365012974 804308 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it's not that nerds like bad things, it's that we like good things and run them into the fucking ground < 1365012986 156112 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I may be just as guilty of this as anyone else < 1365012993 729369 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck 42 < 1365012994 296675 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1365013000 129297 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck forty-two < 1365013000 735124 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Forty-two is a 1945 clone which can be scripted in Guile (GPLv3, Games). < 1365013017 706528 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck answer to universe < 1365013018 287768 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1365013018 620940 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: do you remember when the word "grok" was actually a useful neologism and not just a pretentious synonym for "know" < 1365013031 97732 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't grok you, kmc < 1365013031 825645 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did it mean < 1365013032 715283 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well probably not because it was like 10 years before either of us was born but, < 1365013044 78998 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION stopped reading that book once!
< 1365013050 417202 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(kmc is about the same age as elliott?) < 1365013051 297185 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'Grok means to understand so thoroughly that the observer becomes a part of the observed—to merge, blend, intermarry, lose identity in group experience. It means almost everything that we mean by religion, philosophy, and science—and it means as little to us (because of our Earthling assumptions) as color means to a blind man.' < 1365013053 693421 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't mind grok that much idk < 1365013055 477092 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see it much < 1365013056 226683 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i'm older < 1365013059 949286 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i see it a lot < 1365013066 717612 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck grok < 1365013067 185649 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a job posting cliché, almost as much as ninja rockstar < 1365013067 380427 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :grok definition: to understand profoundly and intuitively. < 1365013076 836873 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that just sounds like "know really well" to me idk < 1365013088 712112 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...I've been using "grok" to mean "come to understand" < 1365013096 493978 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc is like twice as old as me or something < 1365013108 577019 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :job postings are largely about companies signalling that they're cool and integrated with 'nerd culture' < 1365013111 536498 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...34? < 1365013119 120642 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is 25
< 1365013122 687089 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe if i like actually read Strange < 1365013124 806089 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stranger* < 1365013129 188628 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't read it either < 1365013129 917003 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :have any of you done that? kmc? < 1365013132 282119 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well then < 1365013139 499393 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you fraud. < 1365013142 419781 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc is almost as old as I've been mistaken to be < 1365013143 127134 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :welp < 1365013155 849229 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :that kind of job posting is usually an instant disqualification < 1365013158 868691 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :25 is roughly 34 really < 1365013163 608008 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Saying that, I've been to a pub and ordered alcohol wearing a fake beard < 1365013173 868248 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how old are you actually atriq < 1365013177 4645 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :18 < 1365013183 898364 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Old enough to legally drink < 1365013184 574450 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I think using "grok" in one of those is completely different from using grok in almost any other circumstance < 1365013187 967969 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :18 and 25... noted. < 1365013202 293505 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah i'm old < 1365013208 294583 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, I do announce my birthday when it comes round < 1365013211 641307 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :42 42 42 < 1365013215 638055 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then one day you find, ten years have got behind you, no one told you when to run, you missed the starting gun < 1365013218 612947 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :♫ < 1365013227 61933 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :♫ ♫ ♫ < 1365013235 143959 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: omg ur so old < 1365013235 477930 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Unicode needs a character specifically for "Pink Floyd guitar solo") < 1365013240 112294 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :42 42 42 42 42 < 1365013246 629322 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :COMBINING_WALL_ABOVE < 1365013247 597450 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote (Unicode needs a character specifically for "Pink Floyd guitar solo") < 1365013247 792384 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :one day i may even be 42 years old < 1365013252 337028 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :1007) (Unicode needs a character specifically for "Pink Floyd guitar solo") < 1365013258 736926 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should include the rest < 1365013260 504465 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`delquote 1007 < 1365013265 34762 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*poof* (Unicode needs a character specifically for "Pink Floyd guitar solo") < 1365013268 482026 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the rest is just lyrics < 1365013270 305548 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah then it's just embarssing < 1365013271 17153 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :42 42 42 42 42 42 42 42 < 1365013276 964692 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote and then one day you find, ten years have got behind you, no one told you when to run, you missed the starting gun ♫ ♫ ♫ ♫ (Unicode needs a character specifically for "Pink Floyd guitar solo") < 1365013282 904926 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: that is ok < 1365013283 147649 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :1007) and then one day you find, ten years have got behind you, no one told you when to run, you missed the starting gun ♫ ♫ ♫ ♫ (Unicode needs a character specifically for "Pink Floyd guitar solo") < 1365013285 212980 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i'm embarassed < 1365013287 188834 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION puts on Bike
< 1365013287 635423 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :look what you've done el < 1365013288 899928 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :liot < 1365013289 407631 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :t < 1365013290 623580 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is ok < 1365013294 789003 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :42 42 42 42 42 42 42 42 42 42 42 42 42 < 1365013295 945345 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've got a bike, you can ride it if you like < 1365013303 303212 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`logs * cigar < 1365013304 467218 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: logs: not found < 1365013309 258077 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlogs * cigar < 1365013310 624657 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: pastlogs: not found < 1365013311 211346 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I don't think I've realized that song has lyrics before < 1365013314 690073 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog * cigar < 1365013316 368178 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :42 42 42 42 42 42 42 42 42 42 42 42 42 42 42 42 42 42 42 42 42 < 1365013322 23965 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :have a cigar? < 1365013326 486776 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :person could you just like < 1365013328 394404 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop < 1365013335 507968 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :who is person < 1365013337 850898 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1365013340 307137 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :BUT WHO WAS PERSON < 1365013340 617994 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :fibonacci sequence < 1365013341 514695 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was mentally ignoring him < 1365013345 435860 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, I don't any more < 1365013345 630860 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :for saying 42 a lot < 1365013345 876579 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1365013348 257390 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :without even realising it < 1365013350 26807 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah me too but it's getting long now < 1365013360 533599 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let fib n = 42 in map fib [1..] < 1365013361 565229 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like i don't think i even saw the first one? < 1365013397 581937 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trivia: I have a cousin who is just like me, except Australian and somehow less awesome. < 1365013434 427146 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is awesomeness inversely related to Australianness? < 1365013446 189935 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're at 1007 quotes? < 1365013498 30021 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let fib n = case n of {0 -> [42]; 1 -> [42]; n -> fib (n - 1) ++ fib (n - 2)} in fib 42 < 1365013532 479614 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 1000 < 1365013534 326324 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :1000) `quote 1000 < 1365013534 964147 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ThatOtherPerson, it's positively correlated < 1365013537 799546 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ThatOtherPerson: presumably non-inversely < 1365013542 101981 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or it wouldn't be "somehow" < 1365013550 575922 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 999 < 1365013552 11718 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, of course < 1365013552 536792 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :999) ok im sober now and DNS makes sense again [...] Domain Name System [...] ♫ domain name system ♫ < 1365013578 869115 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :domain name system surrounded by two pink floyd guitar solos < 1365013584 786285 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 1 < 1365013587 259691 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote ♫ < 1365013587 917447 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :1) I used computational linguistics to kill her. < 1365013588 920734 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :999) ok im sober now and DNS makes sense again [...] Domain Name System [...] ♫ domain name system ♫ \ 1007) and then one day you find, ten years have got behind you, no one told you when to run, you missed the starting gun ♫ ♫ ♫ ♫ (Unicode needs a character specifically for "Pink Floyd guita < 1365013590 91803 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you've become a little bit too melodious than socially acceptable lately. anything happened in your life? < 1365013596 933314 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1365013598 706659 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really < 1365013620 759981 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ThatOtherPerson, you came after itidus20. < 1365013628 554030 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :He was an awesome Australian < 1365013631 939263 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote itidus < 1365013633 922171 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :405) to assume that someone can be described by a rule without exception... is to assume they are omnipotent for instance stones are omnipotent, as they don't do anything, without exception \ 426) monqy: last night in my dreams I saw a false photo album of my childhood... looking ghostly \ 427) itidus20: i s < 1365013645 998679 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lord_DeathMatch is pretty awesome and also Australian < 1365013651 688149 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, what happened to itidus? < 1365013662 683864 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, had a row with Phantom_Hoover or something < 1365013679 824786 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1365013720 148577 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 427 < 1365013721 601300 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :427) itidus20: i saw a dancing cgi skeleton named malaria. i danced and played with him. < 1365013810 650761 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 42 < 1365013813 821563 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :42) If I ever made a game where you jabbed bears ... I'd call it jabbear. < 1365013833 212015 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote row < 1365013835 192207 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :125) INTERNET YAY Said like a once-drowning man, rescued, taking a breath. \ 157) [spam] Any flavored hell can pee on the pig pen, but it takes a real football team to throw a slyly optimal formless void at a hole puncher. \ 171) "* There is no scientifically-justifiable reason to exclude pornography, which is < 1365014183 838464 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote internet < 1365014185 613952 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :93) alise: why internet is like wtf \ 113) reading playboy for the articles actually seems plausible nowadays after all, there's porn all over the internet, why would you /pay/ for it \ 125) INTERNET YAY Said like a once-drowning man, rescued, taking a breath. \ 217) ais523: Maybe it < 1365014224 331380 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :`which quote < 1365014225 927001 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/quote < 1365014233 561050 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat /hackenv/bin/quote < 1365014235 93380 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ allquotes | if [ "$1" ]; then \ if expr "$1" + 0 >/dev/null 2>&1; then \ sed "$1q;d" \ else \ grep -P -i -- "$1" \ fi \ else shuf -n 1; fi < 1365014250 437615 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :`allquotes < 1365014251 721722 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :1) I used computational linguistics to kill her. \ 2) EgoBot just opened a chat session with me to say "bork bork bork" \ 3) Hmmm... My fingers and tongue seem to be as quick as ever, but my lips have definitely weakened... More practice is in order. \ 4) that's where I got it roc < 1365014291 386274 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :`which allquotes < 1365014292 675704 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/allquotes < 1365014301 448938 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat /hackenv/bin/allquotes < 1365014303 440188 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ nl -w 1 -s ') ' quotes < 1365014352 818142 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastequotes < 1365014366 657662 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.18531 < 1365014476 707637 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat /hackenv/bin/pastequotes < 1365014480 221118 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ if [ "$1" ]; then quote "$1"; else allquotes; fi | paste < 1365014499 762152 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo 42 | paste < 1365014500 895063 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :42 | paste < 1365014533 192528 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo 42 | paste < 1365014538 772121 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.31267 < 1365014555 207229 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :What a waste of paste. < 1365014662 163093 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 959 < 1365014669 936081 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :959) I'm a story about the prohibition of chocolate < 1365014680 129345 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trivia: that made perfect sense in my head < 1365014686 173939 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I still know what I was on about < 1365014804 975384 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote boily < 1365014806 452404 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :940) boily: the man eating chicken is just a normal man, it's quite common to eat chicken in some parts of the world \ 941) ~eval 1+2 Error (127): this is a great bot boily i love it \ 950) not only there is no God, but try to find an APL keyboard on Sunday. \ 953) ais523: I'm not sure my < 1365014872 139934 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok. nothing perverted and or of a purple tinge happened in my numerous absences. my paranoïa is satisfied. < 1365015029 690135 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 897 < 1365015031 7163 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :897) That's the problem with Tumblr All the porn titles are taken by non-porn people < 1365015046 193920 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's simultaneously very me and very not me < 1365015143 370254 :AnotherTest1!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :atriq: why did you change your name to atriq again < 1365015165 64278 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Look who else is in the channel < 1365015254 98539 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hint: it's Taneb < 1365015395 289586 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's an impostor! < 1365015417 723417 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1365015439 885431 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1365015462 906276 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My computer's on upstairs and set to auto-reconnect < 1365015496 784961 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could ssh in and kill the process but there's not much point because I'm heading upstairs in a few minutes < 1365015617 952286 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :He keeps on saying that < 1365015621 783638 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :But he never does < 1365015709 143537 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :atriq: /msg nickserv ghost taneb < 1365015709 376847 :SDr!~ask@unaffiliated/sdr NICK :sdr|Flu < 1365015723 1359 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, wanna see what happens? < 1365015727 805020 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1365015734 915378 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i knew what would happen < 1365015736 102321 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now wait a couple of secs < 1365015751 581562 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365015770 10013 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well if you ghost it < 1365015771 839945 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then type /nick taneb < 1365015776 379430 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :see what happens then! < 1365015789 769889 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1365015792 511423 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net NICK :Taneb < 1365015792 761023 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :taneb___ < 1365015815 816859 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365015823 327942 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi atriq < 1365015828 537733 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"welcome back" < 1365015830 895951 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1365015838 350299 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi oerjan < 1365015846 473455 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My and atriq are having a fight to the death < 1365015852 766193 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Taneb < 1365015884 660785 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should pick up tips from hulk and dr. banner, then < 1365015905 569694 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi Taneb! < 1365015906 506589 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it's gonna progress it will involve running up and down stairs < 1365015915 632494 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haven't seen you for a couple of weeks. < 1365015928 416013 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been about < 1365015929 45169 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: no gamma rays? boring. < 1365015945 975590 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365016249 232639 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hah! < 1365016253 825317 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1365016279 696127 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365016298 727820 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? atriq < 1365016307 749493 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :atriq or two < 1365016333 630449 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :atriq or two and cosplays Nepeta Leijon on weekends < 1365016342 227791 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1365016345 85600 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :o rly < 1365016355 939160 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: ^ o rly? < 1365016387 439919 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run grep -i leijon wisdom/* < 1365016387 763235 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck nepeta leijon < 1365016388 939058 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`! atriq < 1365016389 200735 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1365016389 686903 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/shachaf:shachaf sprø som selleri and cosplays Nepeta Leijon on weekends. < 1365016391 744031 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ATRIQ OR TWO < 1365016399 486269 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1365016399 951589 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: are you saying you are atriq < 1365016425 498612 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the truth is out < 1365016428 206085 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am shachaf < 1365016432 625871 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't be surprised. no way there are enough people in this world for having a distinct shachaf to an atriq. < 1365016434 789359 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*GASP* < 1365016436 173344 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: no, i'm saying that and cosplaying Nepeta Leijoin on weekends is a popular things to do < 1365016446 659269 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1365016453 477184 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :atriq's puns are not fun enough to be me < 1365016454 884457 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net NICK :Taneb < 1365016488 999314 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Iain Banks has terminal cancer :( < 1365016489 353554 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony NICK :atriq < 1365016493 163413 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? taneb < 1365016495 386999 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb is not elliott, no matter who you ask. He also isn't a rabbi although he has pretended in the past. (see also: d-modules) < 1365016506 29872 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ngevd < 1365016507 615336 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​��n!�?[�����5�r�u�/���[�wB�—�ؙ<����T�[m{�q"s�������_��X�KШ?��Y�V�fF�$��}�q[�A����-3����.�."�TwK�&⒯�������wE)װ�an*Wz���7L�tJ���*��q�\�8�E6vT�[�����!_�� .ϲͅ�;�LG�{2��UI�oP—~ 7��b��殽*��@@#A�.�� �f}�B�gA����{����q��jz���0�b�z�"����^Bt��q��E�A k��uL����{t��/@=�FH+�����=�W��Jf.ޘ�D^@�]߷���Q<��M� < 1365016519 839433 :atriq!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: that's actually a special case < 1365016520 205382 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ngevd | paste < 1365016521 716287 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ngevd | paste? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1365016527 99334 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ? ngevd | paste < 1365016530 887880 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa, man < 1365016545 885586 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.12841 \ /hackenv/bin/paste: line 12: 299 File size limit exceededcat > $HACKENV/paste/paste."$PASTENUM" < 1365016548 829505 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run paste wisdom/ngevd < 1365016552 351397 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/wisdom/ngevd < 1365016562 284464 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: GOOD JOB < 1365016563 971339 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :????? < 1365016580 144628 :atriq!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Thank you. < 1365016585 678442 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run -l wisdom/*gev* < 1365016587 29541 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: - : invalid option \ Usage: bash [GNU long option] [option] ... \ bash [GNU long option] [option] script-file ... \ GNU long options: \ --debug \ --debugger \ --dump-po-strings \ --dump-strings \ --help \ --init-file \ --login \ --noediting \ --noprofile \ --norc \ --posix \ --protected \ --rcfile \ --restricted \ --verbose \ < 1365016590 574857 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls -l wisdom/*gev* < 1365016597 478827 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-rw-r--r-- 1 5000 0 25 Mar 31 19:00 wisdom/ngevd < 1365016598 773023 :atriq!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1365016609 197563 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ONLY I MAY BE ATRIQ < 1365016611 399832 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net NICK :atriq < 1365016625 469573 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hope you're actually running up and down the stairs < 1365016628 90726 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run rm -f --force wisdom/ngevd --force < 1365016629 251925 :ThatOtherPersonY!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony JOIN :#esoteric < 1365016632 628141 :ThatOtherPersonY!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony NICK :ThatOtherPerson < 1365016636 241505 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1365016649 937424 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file wisdom/Ngevd < 1365016653 56274 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/Ngevd: ERROR: cannot open `wisdom/Ngevd' (No such file or directory) < 1365016657 294522 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Ngevd < 1365016659 179047 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1365016661 818915 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :By Nathan I was killed and by Nathan I live < 1365016668 138083 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, why < 1365016675 841564 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :atriq: did you see what it said < 1365016677 649507 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`! atriq < 1365016681 798877 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ATRIQ OR TWO! < 1365016683 288883 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Much better. < 1365016691 644813 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It now adds a ! at the end if one does not exist.) < 1365016716 506484 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? structural subtyping < 1365016718 498399 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not to be confused with substructural typing. < 1365016719 989496 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? substructural typing < 1365016721 672605 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not to be confused with structural subtyping. < 1365016723 854393 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-( < 1365016739 263360 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"ngevd more like ein gedi" < 1365016741 21729 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good ol' maths < 1365016751 201434 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :atriq: what does that even mean < 1365016781 319558 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's friesian for "a butt" < 1365016856 262079 :AnotherTest1!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1365016873 416862 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: fancy < 1365016875 270926 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay. < 1365016888 325350 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls -l wisdom/Ngevd < 1365016890 562781 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: invalid option -- ' ' \ Try `ls --help' for more information. < 1365016906 833470 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls -l wisdom/Ngevd < 1365016908 775270 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(why would that help...) < 1365016909 969807 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access wisdom/Ngevd: No such file or directory < 1365016922 105288 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ngevd < 1365016923 491656 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ngevd? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1365016923 694607 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: wisdom/ is uniformly lowercase < 1365016928 282795 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1365016938 235610 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls -l wisdom/ngevd < 1365016939 839459 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access wisdom/ngevd: No such file or directory < 1365016940 462111 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :however i believe that file is actually gone. < 1365016942 229879 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls wisdom | egrep '[A-Z]' < 1365016943 795060 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help < 1365016944 19916 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :As the wisdom directory contains many files named after nicks, listing it in public annoys people. Try `pastewisdom instead. < 1365016944 215276 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch " downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1365016953 479399 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, nooooooooooooo < 1365016954 702215 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls ./wisdom | egrep '[A-Z]' < 1365016957 516126 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :As the wisdom directory contains many files named after nicks, listing it in public annoys people. Try `pastewisdom instead. < 1365016965 920846 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow HackEgo < 1365016969 982075 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run /bin/ls wisdom | egrep '[A-Z]' < 1365016974 304261 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523 \ america \ atriq \ atrix \ augur \ banach-tarski \ bicategory \ bienvenue \ bike \ bird \ boily \ bonvenon \ bookwatching \ brain \ brainf**k \ brainfuck \ brick \ burma \ c \ cakeprophet \ california \ category \ category-helpdesk \ certainly \ certainty \ claustrophobia \ coffee \ color \ colour \ comedogenic \ comonad \ conspirabiology \ < 1365016977 511263 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's security, shachaf < 1365016978 333302 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1365016981 754711 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ln -s wisdom/ngevd /dev/urandom < 1365016983 686152 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: SHEESH < 1365016984 822894 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ngevd < 1365016987 342673 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ln: invalid option -- ' ' \ Try `ln --help' for more information. < 1365016988 116139 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ngevd? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1365016989 591867 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm wisdom/ngevd < 1365016993 1886 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `wisdom/ngevd': No such file or directory < 1365016996 987165 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: why didn't my grep work < 1365016999 185987 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1365016999 433156 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like this discussion < 1365017007 282381 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: um you should _really_ take a look at bin/? before doing that < 1365017014 251985 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover doesn't care < 1365017020 233822 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually that will be pointless regardless of the argument order. < 1365017022 632657 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :\ < 1365017030 144643 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :phantom hoover should be a honey badger. < 1365017060 326902 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover is just trying to be annoying as far as i can tell :( < 1365017088 524510 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: it was changed so that things don't blow up completely when someone tries to make a list of all the wisdom entries. < 1365017151 628438 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf is going on < 1365017183 817536 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I do not believe that is going on. < 1365017214 841060 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, I am very very glad I didn't run out of cash last weekend < 1365017235 699943 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Otherwise I'd be stuck in Sunderland with only an out of date debit card < 1365017240 514803 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha ha ThatOtherPerson < 1365017249 229361 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :new heights of comedy have been reached thanks to you < 1365017271 873628 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like monoidal comedy < 1365017276 524133 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :can we have more of that in here < 1365017310 197877 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, who ruined wisdom/ngevd, and why < 1365017341 751191 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: shachaf just deleted it. otherwise, i just said above. < 1365017366 456602 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes well did you see what it said < 1365017373 874194 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo Boo! >wisdom/ngevd < 1365017377 553671 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1365017381 895741 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ngevd < 1365017383 153706 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :w:也�8���U��]Y�۝[.S5�nO��&��d�Gv���>8�,.�s�[������=�BO�R�n�%��*a"�4��Hcj���m��tg!� qp��o�C�/�J�:�!�~(��gJCcU \ ��9�4�9�}yr�'C.�2����O9頓�z�;�H\_���X!�3�\�@H^i*X��v�]g < 1365017388 833361 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa dude < 1365017391 219611 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`paste bin/? < 1365017391 884873 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :也 < 1365017396 306254 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/bin/%3F < 1365017406 162959 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm wisdom/ngevd < 1365017409 548533 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1365017412 206114 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohhhh < 1365017416 31712 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you specialcased it < 1365017418 563865 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :INELEGANT < 1365017430 614848 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo "dot dot dot" < 1365017457 641931 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"as they say" < 1365017524 4932 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::? < 1365017553 19187 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn ngevd is a fake wisdom entry. `? ngevd is special-cased in bin/?. leave this file alone Phantom_Hoover‼ < 1365017556 501976 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-10.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1365017557 584038 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1365017610 357724 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Phantom_Hoover < 1365017611 894545 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom Michael Hoover is a true Scotsman and hatheist. < 1365017626 848274 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: you worship hats? < 1365017661 323332 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1365017661 518010 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's hat-heist, not h+atheist < 1365017683 978647 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :You steal hats? < 1365017815 669367 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :He does not respond, thus proving his guilt. < 1365017923 651652 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But... but... no True Scotsman steals hats! < 1365017936 536548 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.112 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365017977 816887 :Bike!~Glossina@65-102-5-207.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365017987 18953 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT IS A LIE < 1365018341 273054 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-148.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the cake? < 1365018380 928300 :Bike!~Glossina@65-102-5-207.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1365018411 117318 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ThatOtherPerson, well, I never successfully stole it. < 1365018475 937637 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-245.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365018716 407246 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1365018857 682052 :GOMADWarrior!~Regis@187.65.192.206 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1365018883 565375 :GOMADWarrior!~Regis@187.65.192.206 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365019105 98976 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love my job. I make phone rings. < 1365019178 113409 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-245.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wats a phone ring < 1365019297 113356 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :arenas for ritualized combat between phones. what's a ceremony? < 1365019432 718957 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, what is a word. < 1365019476 28586 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh... if I can't subtly try to start a covert round of govende... < 1365019482 791357 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well. < 1365019484 919744 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck word < 1365019485 686064 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :word definition: something that is said. < 1365019535 306264 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any of you guys play board game online? < 1365019539 877139 :carado!~carado@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:221:63ff:fe9a:3747 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365019553 228817 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-148.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i watch board games online < 1365019561 446031 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-245.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I play scrabble online sometimes. < 1365019563 972513 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.boardgame-online.com/g/game.php?g=cYbq&k=qJX < 1365019597 867 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-245.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the heck < 1365019608 881078 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's an online boardgame < 1365019612 409761 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Called boardgame online < 1365019640 678126 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :isotropic is dead. now there's only that blasphemous infamy left to play dominion online. < 1365019754 853830 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.109.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I'm a guy! I have a penis." ........ < 1365019780 100614 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi nooodl < 1365019783 753867 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.109.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1365019791 564987 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-245.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm a guy! I have two penises < 1365019802 409433 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.109.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I'm not sure what I am." omg this is so blatantly transphobic jesus < 1365019844 937654 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-245.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously is this some kind of dating service game < 1365019885 279565 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im confused < 1365019887 436468 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-148.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure should be two other choices " I have both" " I have neither" < 1365019889 675212 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this about that board game online < 1365019907 635713 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.109.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1365019908 826562 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :atriq: what is that and what does it have to do with Homestuck < 1365019910 400648 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-245.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh god what is this even saying help i am not good with computers < 1365019932 28212 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I'm a girl! I have boobies." um < 1365019954 828543 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-245.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have seven pet boobies. they fly around for me < 1365019965 429918 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ThatOtherPerson, it's an online board game < 1365019975 272511 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A lot of people playing this instance read Homestuck < 1365019983 750165 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it about sex < 1365019985 121284 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because < 1365019985 427444 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1365019989 421232 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A little < 1365019992 657588 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::> < 1365019994 97786 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1365019995 318987 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why < 1365019995 806589 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION o_O what is going on
< 1365020007 654604 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im learning about homestuck < 1365020008 68599 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION has no clue
< 1365020012 958645 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: flee < 1365020015 207915 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a really weird online board game < 1365020016 714574 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does this have to do with homestuck? @_@ < 1365020022 134250 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :flee from it like the plague < 1365020037 392850 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-245.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fiora has like nine penises, all in hermeneutic jars for later study < 1365020053 602487 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: I clicked all the buttons and was taken to some chat thingy where people were talking about Homestuck characters < 1365020055 444789 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but science needs them now < 1365020056 119193 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what ;-; < 1365020060 947828 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-245.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm that should be "hermetic" shouldn't it < 1365020062 266371 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am at least as confused as you < 1365020064 702353 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :if not more < 1365020073 492620 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PART #esoteric :"I don't understand" < 1365020078 654453 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip < 1365020079 142372 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1365020085 278509 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :HOW COULD YOU PEOPLE < 1365020156 447660 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn it < 1365020171 570668 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION unleashes the eldritch (and cyclopean and grotesque) squiddly powers of metasepia towards bike
< 1365020172 944390 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is this it you are referring to? < 1365020205 166045 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :“GO FORTH, MY MINION, AND OBLITERATE THAT HEATHEN FROM THE SURFACE OF THE EARTH, ESPECIALLY HEXHAM!” < 1365020389 262355 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Gregor: how come? coconut usually tastes pretty good. <-- this is a public announcement to remind you that Gregor doesn't have a sense of taste hth < 1365020423 310021 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oh come on, we're talking about SODA here. < 1365020563 651783 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : hm that should be "hermetic" shouldn't it <-- darn i was so wondering what a hermeneutic jar is < 1365020574 493376 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck hermeneutics < 1365020575 208921 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hermeneutics, broadly, is the art of text interpretation. < 1365020610 948776 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-245.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: probably like the jar the nag hammadi library was found in. < 1365020612 114610 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :.,. < 1365020672 946291 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hope Fiora will come back sometime < 1365020680 482321 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Fiora Have you found understanding in your absence? < 1365020687 564101 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1365020693 904044 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how to use that bot < 1365020712 623084 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ThatOtherPerson: it helps if it's actually present < 1365020717 744309 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1365020719 374841 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1365020725 121863 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: WHAT DID YOU DO TO LAMBDABOT < 1365020740 944700 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone found a way to kill lambdabot? < 1365020755 135128 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"again?" < 1365020770 195105 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quambdabot < 1365020772 497166 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1365020774 702029 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i suspect it's not particularly hard if someone actually tried < 1365020790 278225 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, my is always there to be readily killed. < 1365020802 968988 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony NICK :my < 1365020807 73262 :my!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :kill me < 1365020807 660057 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(granted, I have full access to a good C-c aimed at it...) < 1365020818 15708 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval unsafeCoerce unsafeCoerce + 2 < 1365020820 986876 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Error (1): < 1365020832 621457 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION grabs metasepia from Bike and redirects its fury towards my
< 1365020840 947895 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-245.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1365020843 374371 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: that's a _little_ concise for an error message < 1365020855 387626 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know. sometimes it works, most often not. < 1365020879 586507 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :be subjugated in front of its zen-like approach to error handling! < 1365020885 345188 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: you might join lines, or something < 1365020903 585608 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.112 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1365020928 4723 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval unsafeCoerce False ++ "hm..." < 1365020929 226884 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Error (1): Not in scope: `unsafeCoerce' < 1365020937 555856 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that _might_ explain it. < 1365020974 400431 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lucky you! you got a full error message! < 1365020974 961512 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sigh < 1365020980 767529 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-245.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval Unsafe.Coerce < 1365020981 675370 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Error (1): Not in scope: data constructor `Unsafe.Coerce' < 1365020985 526060 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: hi < 1365020988 396784 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-245.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval import Unsafe.Coerce < 1365020989 80139 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Error (1): :1:1: parse error on input `import' < 1365020992 672368 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-245.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sux < 1365020996 583367 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep! < 1365021005 618700 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-245.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: she's just afk right now < 1365021058 715764 :my!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval ~eval ~eval ~eval < 1365021059 492051 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Error (1): Pattern syntax in expression context: ~evalPattern syntax in expression context: ~evalPattern syntax in expression context: ~eval < 1365021078 48256 :my!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval ~eval ~eval ~eval ~eval ~eval ~eval ~eval ~eval < 1365021079 11592 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Error (1): Pattern syntax in expression context: ~evalPattern syntax in expression context: ~evalPattern syntax in expression context: ~evalPattern syntax in expression context: ~evalPattern syntax in expression context: ~evalPattern syntax in expression context: ~evalPattern syntax in expression context: ~evalPattern syntax in expression context: ~eval < 1365021087 120728 :my!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval ~eval ~eval ~eval ~eval ~eval ~eval ~eval ~eval ~eval ~eval ~eval ~eval ~eval ~eval ~eval ~eval ~eval ~eval ~eval ~eval ~eval ~eval ~eval ~eval ~eval ~eval < 1365021087 862027 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Error (1): Pattern syntax in expression context: ~evalPattern syntax in expression context: ~evalPattern syntax in expression context: ~evalPattern syntax in expression context: ~evalPattern syntax in expression context: ~evalPattern syntax in expression context: ~evalPattern syntax in expression context: ~evalPattern syntax in expression context: ~evalPattern syntax in expression context: ~evalPattern syntax in expression context: < 1365021093 65033 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1365021094 234180 :my!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :>:D < 1365021100 907755 :my!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: hey! < 1365021112 785413 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :errors and patterns and syntax, oh my! < 1365021144 504901 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.109.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is unsafeCoerce in haskell < 1365021154 455091 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not < 1365021156 663613 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wb Fiora < 1365021158 411755 :my!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: Have you been enlightened by the glorious brightness of Oz yet? < 1365021168 40504 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ZARDOZ? < 1365021173 523206 :my!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/Oz/understanding < 1365021174 716395 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-245.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: it's an implementationy extensiony thing. < 1365021181 364572 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.109.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1365021183 380949 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.109.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is it in ghc < 1365021191 625639 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for hax < 1365021193 348054 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-245.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everything's in ghc. < 1365021230 422183 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oz?? < 1365021230 655924 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: well where else would you put it < 1365021237 670586 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: so you can convert between things that have the same type/same internal representation but the type system is not powerful enough to prove it < 1365021240 41449 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-245.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is a standard unsafeLocalState though < 1365021242 227716 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a canonical use case (and one the GHC docs actually guarantee is safe) is converting between a newtype and underlying type < 1365021261 751458 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also converting from a type to Any and back to the same type < 1365021267 463157 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is used in the implementation of Data.Dynamic < 1365021287 414693 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but mostly it gets used for weird hax to make libraries faster by knowing way too much about GHC internals < 1365021294 983372 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Presumably you could also implement Data.Dynamic with an existential Typeable value? < 1365021301 315855 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1365021309 676986 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-245.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :2slow < 1365021314 614785 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.109.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan's line sounds more interesting! < 1365021326 764379 :variable!~root@128.226.240.85 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365021326 958706 :variable!~root@128.226.240.85 QUIT :Changing host < 1365021326 958844 :variable!~root@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1365021331 34480 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-245.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan's line and kmc's lines are in fact..... the same < 1365021346 17791 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :note that unsafeCoerce :: New -> Old may be safe but unsafeCoerce :: f New -> f Old isn't :'( < 1365021353 272529 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there exist a natural transformation between oerjan and kmc. < 1365021354 425095 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1365021358 360793 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/t\b/ts/ < 1365021412 924682 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.109.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's cute when people put effort in their s/// regexes < 1365021460 918318 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/effort/logic and sanity/ < 1365021464 437576 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1365021585 361775 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.109.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot is back in #haskell but not in #esoteric... what a jerkbot < 1365021597 929067 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :eek < 1365021622 24827 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~echo ~echo ~echo < 1365021622 371832 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~echo ~echo < 1365021649 224317 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: maybe it got reset a couple years again < 1365021730 20384 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1365021764 302298 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you realise lambdabot just takes ages to join every channel right < 1365021790 417495 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.109.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you mean "nooodl: " < 1365021791 597447 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: hey i trusted oerjan < 1365021796 751224 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :by oerjan i mean nooodl < 1365021828 456498 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :jerkbot 5000 < 1365021847 797736 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.109.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, how many channels is lambdabot in? < 1365021854 86984 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :68 < 1365021854 795341 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1365021873 316616 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@list < 1365021873 724440 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://code.haskell.org/lambdabot/COMMANDS < 1365021885 516715 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1365021892 952385 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.109.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow @unlambda < 1365021895 971979 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@channels < 1365021896 166084 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1365021897 478918 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@list-channels < 1365021897 673605 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1365021900 75349 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@where are you < 1365021900 412379 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know nothing about are. < 1365021902 868801 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.109.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@listchans < 1365021903 272557 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@channel-list < 1365021903 467310 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :##crypto ##freebsd ##logic ##proggit ##unavailable ##villagegreen #agda #codez #darcs #diagrams #esoteric #fedora-haskell #friendly-coders #functionaljava #gentoo-haskell #gentoo-uy #ghc #happs # < 1365021903 467523 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haskell #haskell-blah #haskell-books #haskell-br #haskell-fr #haskell-freebsd #haskell-game #haskell-in-depth #haskell-lens #haskell-overflow #haskell-pl #haskell.au #haskell.cz #haskell.de #haskell. < 1365021903 467627 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :dut #haskell.es #haskell.se #haskell.tw #learnanycomputerlanguage #ledger #macosx #macosxdev #rosettacode #scala #scalaz #scannedinavian #snapframework #tanuki #teamunix #unicycling #xmonad #yi < 1365021903 467798 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird# < 1365021903 661613 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1365021905 911676 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes that one. < 1365021907 68383 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.109.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoa < 1365021915 845205 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-245.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haskell-freebsd < 1365021916 89498 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird# < 1365021918 688132 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that command list is outdates < 1365021919 563660 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-245.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gentoo-haskell < 1365021921 293183 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-245.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is this < 1365021921 584305 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/.$/d/ < 1365021931 482371 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: what are your real commands < 1365021934 418793 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: ? < 1365021934 837206 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: . ? @ activity activity-full admin all-dicts arr ask b52s babel bf bid botsnack brain bug check choice-add choose clear-messages compose devils dice dict dict-help djinn djinn-add < 1365021935 32233 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :djinn-clr djinn-del djinn-env djinn-names djinn-ver do docs dummy easton echo elements elite eval fact fact-cons fact-delete fact-set fact-snoc fact-update faq farber flush foldoc forget fortune < 1365021935 32463 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fptools free freshname ft gazetteer get-shapr ghc girl19 google googleit gsite gwiki hackage help hitchcock hoogle hoogle+ id ignore index instances instances-importing irc-connect jargon join karma < 1365021935 32567 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :karma+ karma- karma-all keal kind learn leave let list listall listchans listmodules listservers localtime localtime-reply lojban map messages messages? more msg nazi-off nazi-on nixon oeis offline < 1365021935 32676 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oldwiki palomer part paste ping pl pl-resume pointful pointless pointy poll-add poll-close poll-list poll-remove poll-result poll-show pretty print-notices protontorpedo purge-notices quit quote rc < 1365021936 866772 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :read reconnect remember repoint run shootout show slap smack source spell spell-all src tell thank you thanks thx ticker time todo todo-add todo-delete topic-cons topic-init topic-null topic-snoc < 1365021938 831019 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :topic-tail topic-tell type undefine undo unlambda unmtl unpf unpl unpointless uptime url v vera version vote web1913 what where where+ wiki wn world02 yarr yhjulwwiefzojcbxybbruweejw yow < 1365021940 264753 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-245.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :scannedinavian < 1365021945 19332 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shcahf.... < 1365021946 624998 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-245.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@yhjulwwiefzojcbxybbruweejw < 1365021947 204574 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"\"" < 1365021997 667485 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhm, is there only a single global lambdabot instance running, or are they a channel-wise hive conglomerate? < 1365022007 107362 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: calling me shcahf is like calling elliott... elitot < 1365022025 369056 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.109.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eliot < 1365022025 563551 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@rot13 test < 1365022026 955 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1365022097 37271 :my!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: You are standing in a great ballroom. It has been lavishly decorated. You now turn into a giant banana split. < 1365022105 356713 :my!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony NICK :ThatOtherPerson < 1365022119 427690 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: there can only be one "lambdabot" per network < 1365022134 158955 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: well once upon a time there was lambdabot2 < 1365022149 584582 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not lambdabot, that's lambdabot2 < 1365022160 681634 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :theres also thutubot! < 1365022192 741637 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: hey! lambdabot2 is lambdabot too! < 1365022224 80973 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::☺) < 1365022238 693760 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: were you raised in a bus? < 1365022238 888907 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :That may be true, but there's not enough lambdabot to go around. < 1365022249 987662 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: is that what elliott told you < 1365022258 96254 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1365022263 872720 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what elliott told me is between elliott and me < 1365022265 848681 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the bus < 1365022339 905696 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval let f c = chr . (if c >= 'a' && c < 'n' then (+13) else (if c >= 'n' && c <= 'z' then (+(-13)) else id)) . ord $ c in map f "yhjulwwiefzojcbxybbruweejw" < 1365022340 722375 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"luwhyjjvrsmbwpoklooehjrrwj" < 1365022364 449277 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :I understand. < 1365022435 62983 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@djinn-names < 1365022435 529613 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Either Left Right Maybe Nothing Just Bool False True Void Not Void Monad Eq Bool < 1365022442 377933 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa good command < 1365022454 341262 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :void not viod < 1365022455 932 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :void < 1365022457 115543 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :like djinn-env but it doesn't spam the channel < 1365022458 605297 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a unicode char for a schoolbus? < 1365022476 603337 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :1F68C BUS [] < 1365022476 808095 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :1F68D ONCOMING BUS [] < 1365022588 244261 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :1F3EB SCHOOL [] < 1365022595 780126 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey elliott there's a unicode codepoint for you < 1365022623 425279 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a unicode codepoint for me < 1365022635 466647 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1365022638 685036 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1365022639 915336 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's one for MONKEY < 1365022645 328974 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats not me < 1365022645 524248 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :1F412 MONKEY [] < 1365022649 243402 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-245.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :COMBINING FRIENDSHIP MONQY ABOVE [] < 1365022652 412825 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :1F435 MONKEY FACE [] is that you < 1365022662 738592 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :1F648 SEE-NO-EVIL MONKEY [] < 1365022662 933273 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :1F649 HEAR-NO-EVIL MONKEY [] < 1365022663 128850 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :1F64A SPEAK-NO-EVIL MONKEY [] < 1365022688 198612 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :those are pretty good < 1365022695 905547 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :dwarf fortress would make awesome use of that < 1365022705 414387 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1365022706 727475 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey Bike < 1365022709 103846 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :033C COMBINING SEAGULL BELOW [̼] < 1365022713 49639 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-245.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1365022719 758205 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :COMBINING BUS ABOVE < 1365022730 111945 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know shachaf means seagull right Bike < 1365022741 32223 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-245.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that's real huh < 1365022741 652253 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-245.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1365022751 786213 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i feel honoured < 1365022759 86082 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe even honouured < 1365022759 378553 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :in what language? < 1365022767 367764 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hebrew < 1365022769 979083 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a bike, a seagull and a bus walk into an above... < 1365022916 337551 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :ad then nooga kicks in < 1365022936 380515 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1365022961 949011 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :1F630 FACE WITH OPEN MOUTH AND COLD SWEAT [] < 1365022962 222371 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :1F631 FACE SCREAMING IN FEAR [] < 1365022972 609551 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow unicode is great < 1365022974 564471 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks unicode < 1365022984 596221 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1365022995 960714 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-245.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wish i had fonts that could actually render anything on the astral plane < 1365022998 760292 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :1F70A ALCHEMICAL SYMBOL FOR VINEGAR [] < 1365023016 293913 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :um there's no such plane as "the astral plane" < 1365023026 900860 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-245.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well on any astral plane < 1365023034 733937 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unicode Character 'CAT FACE WITH TEARS OF JOY' (U+1F639) < 1365023037 503698 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask zzo38 are you into alchemy < 1365023038 25581 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1365023053 90155 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :1F6AF DO NOT LITTER SYMBOL [] < 1365023055 279364 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :1F6AE PUT LITTER IN ITS PLACE SYMBOL [] < 1365023075 593443 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :1F625 DISAPPOINTED BUT RELIEVED FACE [] < 1365023086 120070 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It tells a story. < 1365023099 833317 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :1F4C8 CHART WITH UPWARDS TREND [] < 1365023100 66061 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :1F4C9 CHART WITH DOWNWARDS TREND [] < 1365023101 7742 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1365023102 417287 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-245.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay i just fell over laughing thanks fizzie < 1365023106 947901 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :1F4B9 CHART WITH UPWARDS TREND AND YEN SIGN [] < 1365023121 488898 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those are the only three CHARTs. < 1365023141 277423 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-245.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how nippocentric < 1365023231 974321 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : how did deadfish replace Emmental on the front page <-- elliott edit the template hth < 1365023236 428488 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*edited < 1365023237 842571 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+1F47D EXTRATERRESTRIAL ALIEN U+1F47E ALIEN MONSTER I'm tempted to go into the character charts to see the example renderings of these. It sounds like there might be quite a lot of variation. < 1365023245 392408 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I only have a UnicodeData.txt to read.) < 1365023298 867013 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/1f47d/index.htm , http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/1f47e/index.htm < 1365023306 61306 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :1F4D3 NOTEBOOK [] < 1365023306 299240 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :1F4D4 NOTEBOOK WITH DECORATIVE COVER [] < 1365023312 423936 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the decision to render unicode character names in all uppercase was the greatest of the human race < 1365023333 596417 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-189-164.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1365023342 447940 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the alien monster. It's very monstrous. < 1365023348 126906 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though it looks kinda sad. < 1365023352 758437 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that just an octopus or something < 1365023364 497497 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems I have a font somewhere that can render the alien face. < 1365023446 607633 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+1F51E NO ONE UNDER EIGHTEEN SYMBOL I parsed this as "(no one) under (eighteen symbol)" and not "(no one under eighteen) symbol". < 1365023462 221442 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.115.210.249 QUIT :Quit: impomatic < 1365023468 451939 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, what does that symbol look like? < 1365023488 45502 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :An 18 in a circle with a \ through it. < 1365023500 176209 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how it signifies the "under" part. < 1365023500 371061 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about the alien stuff? < 1365023505 638745 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't that "no one presently 18"? < 1365023509 585000 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, Gregor provided links. < 1365023527 856965 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1365023533 983653 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.109.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+1F4B8: MONEY WITH WINGS < 1365023538 46076 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.109.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh here's my unicode glyph < 1365023538 240645 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: You'd think so, yes. Perhaps it means "under 18" because the \ is under the 18, not on top. < 1365023538 705467 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :why the hell did they put this stuff in < 1365023540 973036 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously? < 1365023547 897743 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.109.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because of < 1365023548 492569 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl, example rendering? < 1365023555 347978 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.109.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the haskell (MONEY WITH WINGS) operator < 1365023558 914913 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.109.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.charbase.com/images/glyph/128184 < 1365023580 375490 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.109.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/1f4b8/money_with_wings.png < 1365023580 720194 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh I read it as "monkey with wings" < 1365023581 575994 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1365023589 244889 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.109.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like money more < 1365023651 978834 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-245.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let 💸 x y = "enterprise joke" < 1365023652 550966 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plugin `eval' failed with: Enum.toEnum{Word8}: tag (128184) is outside of bounds (0,255) < 1365023657 753588 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-245.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monstrous. < 1365023689 65117 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :In 1F60B FACE SAVOURING DELICIOUS FOOD I don't really see any food being swallowed in the example render -- that's http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/1f60b/face_savouring_delicious_food.png < 1365023716 762896 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :1F612 UNAMUSED FACE [] < 1365023736 974411 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1365023764 783947 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1365023797 154491 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Truly, Miscellaneous Symbols And Pictographs + Emoticons together has the bests. < 1365023802 696930 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1365023856 211449 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The rest is just SERIOUS BUSINESS stuff like MATHEMATICAL SANS-SERIF BOLD ITALIC CAPITAL THETA SYMBOL or MUSICAL SYMBOL TEMPUS IMPERFECTUM CUM PROLATIONE IMPERFECTA DIMINUTION-3 or CUNEIFORM SIGN KASKAL OVER KASKAL LAGAB TIMES U OVER LAGAB TIMES U or so on. < 1365023884 51007 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: Poulet! < 1365023886 392242 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1365023919 500721 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :once again boily chickens out < 1365024006 243258 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The cuneiform signs make me worry I'm seeing double. < 1365024017 102678 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+1203D CUNEIFORM SIGN ASH OVER ASH OVER ASH CROSSING ASH OVER ASH OVER ASH. < 1365024029 110016 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-245.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sexy. < 1365024039 794294 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey that's pretty good < 1365024069 700231 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1365024148 864256 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's no ARABIC LIGATURE UIGHUR KIRGHIZ YEH WITH HAMZA ABOVE WITH ALEF MAKSURA ISOLATED FORM but it's still a pretty long name. < 1365024253 846546 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch < 1365024345 603868 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's no CLOCKWISE RIGHTWARDS AND LEFTWARDS OPEN CIRCLE ARROWS WITH CIRCLED ONE OVERLAY either < 1365024358 73557 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : is that a yes or a yeesh <-- it's a yesh and you should read mutts some time. < 1365024412 171310 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i guess the sumerians liked repeating things until they stuck < 1365024788 634218 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : unfortunately the only reference anyone can fucking bother with is 42 soooooooooooooooo <-- Ah. This is obviously some strange usage of the word "only" that I hadn't previously been aware of. < 1365024816 773896 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1365024874 36437 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey it's monqy party time < 1365024877 258106 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi monqy < 1365024879 38682 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :its the usage of "only" that means "it's the one that sticks out like a sore thumb except it's not just a sore thumb it's mutilated and smells bad and makes me want to vomit even though it was once a good thumb it had good origins and it makes me sad that it's not a good thumb anymore" < 1365024884 19671 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1365024886 922698 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi shachaf < 1365024914 843357 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :good party < 1365025016 216847 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i think u missed oerjan joke < 1365025074 770682 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont remember h2g2 well enough to pick up most ref.s but i had a vague feeling it might be one just because tyhatd be a dang obvious joke < 1365025077 824996 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if thats what youre getting at < 1365025080 35940 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk if it is one tho < 1365025104 205947 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you not noticed all of oerjan's jokes are obvious & that's why they're great < 1365025104 401872 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :h²g² < 1365025113 125984 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan is the best < 1365025119 204818 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1365025123 720613 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wish everyone was like oerjan < 1365025124 928722 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan++ < 1365025129 86475 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll rely on fizzie's encyclopedic knowledge of h2g2's text to supply The Originalle < 1365025147 181149 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: help i'm failing to google any references in what monqy said about sore thumbs < 1365025166 15713 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure there must be some < 1365025172 96302 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it's ok you'll feel better over time < 1365025184 639409 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didnt use a reference to my knowledge it was 1000% original < 1365025203 30152 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: wow you should write books < 1365025204 333054 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1365025210 826008 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a lot of originality < 1365025272 443657 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :11:13 monqy: um there's also almost but not entirely unlike X < 1365025283 183591 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott you dropped a word < 1365025285 213960 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't do that < 1365025294 556770 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :stuff like that i can remember. < 1365025296 753036 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :1000% original books < 1365025304 339284 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : have you not noticed all of oerjan's jokes are obvious & that's why they're great <-- help i'm not sure whether i should be proud or insulted < 1365025329 533294 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh so that is why everyone hates my jokes. They are too subtle? < 1365025341 722698 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: wait you tell jokes? < 1365025350 555334 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: we'd hate them if we noticed them, maybe? < 1365025354 369999 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :waaay to subtle < 1365025366 797680 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it helps if they're funny, also < 1365025376 800028 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ime it doesn't matter really < 1365025378 554143 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :though oerjan gets by fine without that < 1365025392 398305 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats elliott -----###
< 1365025393 75794 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, hey, I find him funny at times. < 1365025400 601145 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dear. < 1365025404 626807 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :at times? < 1365025405 97436 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan's jokes may be worse than I feared then < 1365025405 694234 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'M PRETTY SURE THAT CROSSED OVER TO INSULT < 1365025427 598608 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy, well, nobody can be spot on EVERY time. < 1365025436 499490 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy, but perhaps I should say most of the time < 1365025448 78664 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes sense < 1365025538 788357 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1365025539 931354 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Speaking of humor, why is it (on a evolutionary level) that humor exists? < 1365025572 764324 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, why is watching physics engines in games spaz out so funny? < 1365025615 838882 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, And speaking of games, I assume you have seen the kickstarter to the Planescape: Torment sequel? < 1365025628 249685 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1365025639 934426 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, if you liked Ps:T: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/inxile/torment-tides-of-numenera < 1365025650 826693 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :many of the same guys behind it < 1365025678 113703 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :just 50 hours to go so.. < 1365025699 81179 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't even played Planescape < 1365025703 894413 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh okay < 1365025709 91139 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, why not? < 1365025713 89931 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is a great game < 1365025738 32425 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, tell me at least you played Baldur's Gate or Icewind Dale? < 1365025849 654448 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1365025855 973280 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dear < 1365025878 499702 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, well take a look at the kickstarter to see if you want to back it I guess then < 1365025881 794714 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fsvo "great game" < 1365025895 456844 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the gameplay is, by all accounts, a complete bore < 1365025899 996235 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, well okay, the combat is bad < 1365025905 872657 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, the story however is excellent < 1365025940 476310 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I should probably call the new kickstarter a spiritual successor rather than a sequel < 1365025976 198437 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kickstarter is the cornerstone of the spiritual successor industry, after all < 1365025984 521528 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :true words < 1365026023 848934 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is also that other game, Project Eternity (by Obsidian, the company that made Fallout New Vegas), which is also a spiritual successor to Ps:T < 1365026028 533556 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks interesting too < 1365026052 261662 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and of course obsidian have a proven track record of delivering on their promises < 1365026060 974862 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1365026067 154276 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I expect that game to be buggy :P < 1365026115 815687 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :obsidian is kind of legendary for being forced by publishers to release games before they're ready :/ < 1365026132 949714 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, but I can think of several good games that Obsidian made, they just required post-launch patching. The actual game (story & game play) is usually good though. Just buggy on launch. < 1365026134 446818 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"forced" < 1365026149 8963 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, yeah, forced, the publisher conrols the release date < 1365026161 746657 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the story of new vegas is pretty amazing. bethesda told them not to do QA, because bethesda would be in charge of QA. and then they didn't do QA < 1365026162 220292 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I enjoyed Fallout New Vegas a hell of a lot more than Fallout 3 < 1365026167 40461 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :though neither was a bad game < 1365026200 315348 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :new vegas was pretty wonderful. that and KOTOR 2 are the things I think of when I think of obsidian < 1365026201 368899 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fallout New Vegas just had a massively more interesting setting & story. Much more interesting missions. More interesting characters. < 1365026203 303530 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, my understanding is that obsidian picked a business model where they were contracted to make a game for a set fee < 1365026225 730055 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: the publisher has a lot more control beyond just the price they pay, though < 1365026227 905441 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then acted completely obliviously to this by totally ignoring their deadlines < 1365026252 467740 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean New Vegas wasn't just rough around the edges; the entire save system was fundamentally broken. < 1365026259 165772 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :? saving worked okay here < 1365026292 683442 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora.... < 1365026315 770778 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION ?
< 1365026316 988213 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Did you play it at release? And anyway that's immaterial, because for a lot of people it definitely was.) < 1365026323 353430 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, yeah, I played it at release < 1365026342 70566 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was a little buggy but it's not like it was skyrim-buggy < 1365026385 896592 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :in short, I expect Project Eternity to be awesome but buggy on launch. Torment: Tides of Numenera is however a bit more unsafe card. It could be good. I would guess that a game will come out of that though, since their previous kickstarter (Wasteland 2) is well along it's development. They said that they are working on two games at a time, so that the pre-production team has something to do when the pre < 1365026386 91306 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :vious game is in production. < 1365026395 363223 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :which sounds reasonable to me < 1365026397 390453 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I'm just extremely suspicious of the narrative that Obsidian's games are all ruined by publishers. < 1365026423 307979 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean they've made what, six games with as many publishers? And they've all been unfinished messes? < 1365026434 781112 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, same here. I did not play Vegas on release, and I did enjoy it a lot when I did play it, which was probably a year or so after release. < 1365026443 776551 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have the game of the year edition of Vegas. < 1365026470 501834 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I loved the shit out of NV, though there were still things Bethesda do better. < 1365026474 324419 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: well, publishers being at fault doesn't mean obsidian isn't at fault in any respect, that's not really what I meant, sorry >_< < 1365026499 142625 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the best example of a developer totally botching a contract like that though has to be that new Aliens game though :P < 1365026519 861675 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, oh? Like what? < 1365026558 773948 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, I really can't think of anything I liked more in Fallout 3 than Fallout NV < 1365026561 317118 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, geographical design, most obviously. < 1365026573 480097 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :NV is all box canyons, cliffs and invisible walls. < 1365026588 313877 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bethesda are actually really good at making environments that are fun to just roam around in. < 1365026596 43187 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, not so much invisible walls that I remember, except for the edges of the map obviously < 1365026613 933747 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh jesus christ, you missed those? I had to mod them out, they drove me insane. < 1365026630 552433 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, I did play with unofficial patches and so on of course < 1365026640 607733 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :They were at the top of basically every geographical barrier. < 1365026682 665442 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, hm, I guess I just tried to go around, since climbing over would be wasteful of resources if you role play the game. :P < 1365026719 755980 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :after all, if you role play it, or play it on hard enough difficulty, you have to deal with water shortage. < 1365026750 379583 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm was KOTOR 2 buggy on release? I never played the game. < 1365026763 252504 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was somewhat buggy but there were also like, huge sections of the game uncompleted < 1365026767 948298 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1365026772 625456 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about NWN2? < 1365026772 820761 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :with assets there but that got diked out in the final release < 1365026778 983381 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think years later it was completed by fans with an unofficial patch < 1365026879 309932 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1365027123 464295 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got the feeling that Project Eternity was more a spiritual successor to BG (or Infinity Engine games in general) than specifically PS:T. < 1365027172 950225 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They also just got the stretch goal of getting the original PS:T lead designer in their team at the Torment/Numenera kickstarter. < 1365027256 996888 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And inXile also recently kickstarted Wasteland 2, which could be seen as a kind of a Fallout thing, indirectly. < 1365027281 833690 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm quite high up in the backscroll, sorry for potentially repeating things.) < 1365027324 893717 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello fizzie < 1365027330 620459 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1365027352 348194 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :KOTOR II's lead designer is also working for the new Torment. < 1365027372 693611 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric : I got the feeling that Project Eternity was more a spiritual successor to BG (or Infinity Engine games in general) than specifically PS:T. <-- well yes, true < 1365027388 472398 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I mean, it's the same guy.) < 1365027428 262535 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do look forward to both Project Eternity and the new Torment. < 1365027512 326221 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.109.136 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365027514 808518 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The new Torment is so far the only thing I've kicked in the shin^Wstart; other than that I've managed to not get involved with that kind of things. < 1365027602 891148 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I approve of the general idea of Kickstarter but looking too closely makes me annoyed. < 1365027622 472221 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Especially after they gave all that money to David "massive jaw" Braben. < 1365027686 644493 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And they gave all that other money to Peter Molyneux! People are such sheep. < 1365027738 275647 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.109.136 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1365027789 86074 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, what was it that Molyneux kickstarted? Trying to remember < 1365027803 230309 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not "Curiosity" I hope? < 1365027818 952752 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :because that was an utter clusterfuck < 1365027824 131678 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A pocketful of mumbles, I believe. < 1365027834 685328 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did that curiosity thing end < 1365027853 191561 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-245.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://twitter.com/PeterMolydeux < 1365027881 120454 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-245.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"There is actually nothing in the middle of the cube. It just keeps going on forever #April Fools" hope that answers your question < 1365027904 726374 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1365027924 913068 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, was his statement a joke or the game a joke though < 1365027931 596108 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :that could be interpreted either way < 1365027937 915319 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's Molydeux. < 1365027942 92173 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-245.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«Sheffield first revealed Gunhouse, a title about a “house made of guns” that has to “defend some orphans from Alien Invaders.”» < 1365027943 512833 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1365027949 24194 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, thanks, didn't even notice < 1365027960 582552 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Read the rest of the account's tweet's, they're `the best' < 1365027974 544284 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :"@PeterMolyneux's tweets are protected. < 1365027975 276595 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only confirmed followers have access to @PeterMolyneux's Tweets and complete profile. Click the "Follow" button to send a follow request. < 1365027975 470773 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :" < 1365027975 665921 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1365027976 629282 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok but seriously did anyone get to the bottom < 1365027983 334691 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that the real guy? I guess not < 1365028007 353089 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah no < 1365028020 531426 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :MolyDeux is a parody account < 1365028022 357519 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is https://twitter.com/pmolyneux < 1365028022 552568 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-245.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Curiosity_-_What%27s_Inside_the_Cube%3F_layers < 1365028029 143545 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask atriq Trivia: I have a cousin who is just like me, except Australian and somehow less awesome. <-- they live in one of the other two Hexhams, right? < 1365028030 162704 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1365028031 227219 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it started by tweeting a bunch of incredibly silly (molyneux-esque?) game ideas < 1365028042 770369 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which eventualy started an actual game jam in which people spend a few days actually making some of the silliest ideas < 1365028063 54794 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :My favourite was the driving game where you play as the road. < 1365028065 205438 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow this cannot possibly be notable. < 1365028075 110 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/167882/Postmortem_What_Would_Molydeux__a_global_game_jam_.php < 1365028129 306182 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :A while ago I watched a LPy thing of Barkley's Shut Up And Jam: Gaiden, and it was really bizarre. < 1365028130 346666 :Lymia!~moe@108-205-143-75.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365028130 662396 :Lymia!~moe@108-205-143-75.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Changing host < 1365028130 857066 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1365028151 7356 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, it is however a LIST. Wikipedia loves LISTS and TABLES. < 1365028164 332431 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also why am I talking like POKEMON games? < 1365028229 848112 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-245.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"5 minute game where you play an asteroid that is headed towards Earth. Everyone hates you. All you can do is talk, what would you say?" < 1365028256 998228 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.109.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: i think you mean POKéMON < 1365028262 580624 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"A game where you can only progress during 3 random minutes every day. It's up to social media to help people play at the right time" < 1365028281 554299 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl_, oh right < 1365028288 259580 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I want to make a ps4 game that is just a room with locked door that can only be opened if 1 million users are watching you at the same time" XD < 1365028289 676212 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-245.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It's up to social media" seems topicable < 1365028297 368570 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ONLY YOU CAN SAVE THE DAY, SOCIAL MEDIA! < 1365028321 710511 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-245.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Imagine if you could control an enemy on the console game your child is playing without them knowing via a smartphone?" remains the best < 1365028350 273601 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1365028363 382129 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.109.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow that's giving me great ideas < 1365028397 181066 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.109.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :games that pretend to be single-player, but parts of the game are being filled in by someone else... you could really screw with players' minds < 1365028421 427608 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl_, you mean like Journey, but covert? < 1365028478 33859 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.109.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journey_(2012_video_game) this? < 1365028493 87122 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-245.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if the game's difficulty was linked to how many people were dying from wars? players would have to lobby their governments to make the killing stop if they wanted to get past that jump -- look i'm molydeux < 1365028494 627073 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1365028507 619189 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Action game where every time you die you spawn in the same area but 10 seconds in the past. You need to rescue yourself to continue." this... this is aactually amazing < 1365028533 671660 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl_, it is one of those games where the critics start wondering aloud about the line between games and art. Like with Shadow of the Colossus. < 1365028590 135863 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :It's up to social media | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1365028598 704780 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, amazing idea, but I'm not sure how well it would actually work < 1365028645 669330 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wow. there's... actually a game in development doing that < 1365028654 563444 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2013/03/23/super-time-force-makes-you-cooperate-with-yourself.aspx < 1365028741 559679 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1365028787 553852 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: is #esoteric a social media? < 1365028847 344017 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I think you that you are talking like HOMESTUCK, which is the MOST GLORIOUS WEBCOMIC < 1365028876 945690 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro, I was thinking of the Pokemon games though < 1365028920 605438 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric : http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2013/03/23/super-time-force-makes-you-cooperate-with-yourself.aspx <-- that is one weird trailer at the bottom of the page < 1365028922 621487 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the hell < 1365028927 208083 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey fizzie < 1365028941 696051 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happens if you plot number of layers of curiosity uncovered against time < 1365028985 212462 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-245.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: the game trailer promises it will cause the player to physically harm themselves. that's a good game < 1365028987 167072 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :o_O < 1365029006 562608 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, well, I guess we would see either how large each layer is, or how many people play it. We couldn't predict how long it would take though, since we don't know the number of layers afaik < 1365029053 258148 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :did anyone else play antichamber btw < 1365029067 565940 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and by 'anyone' i mean 'anyone who isn't Vorpal' < 1365029071 385735 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :antichamber!!!! <3 < 1365029085 702437 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is an awesome game indeed < 1365029095 36479 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :very different than other games I played < 1365029134 615898 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's an impressive feat of abusing a game engine < 1365029143 310789 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :that too yes < 1365029150 381632 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just loved how it was like... an open world puzzle game < 1365029152 93890 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-245.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, is it an old engine? < 1365029154 874145 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, I really liked that fake count down timer. < 1365029156 712957 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there were so many ways to solve each problem < 1365029172 945786 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, it's UE3 < 1365029174 95253 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, Unreal 3 iirc, but err, there is non-euclidean geometry < 1365029178 292215 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and all the time, when solving a problem, there was that feeling of "oh wow this is totally cheating there's no way I'm supposed to do it this way" < 1365029181 322410 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-245.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice. < 1365029181 518193 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no there isn't!!! < 1365029184 564106 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-245.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Real non-eucl- oh. < 1365029185 88313 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you know they probably intended for you to be able to do it that way < 1365029190 595228 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's, like, globally noneuclidean features < 1365029193 264521 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, well not on screen at any point < 1365029215 99868 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yes, there are stuff you can walk around for more than 360 degrees without getting back to the same place < 1365029217 471344 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-245.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: hypothesis: the developers didn't actually put in any solutions for any puzzle, they just assumed you'd abuse the engine into getting through < 1365029217 723623 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the actual geometry is everywhere euclidean < 1365029219 908463 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was such a wonderful explorey thing < 1365029220 415714 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sort of stuff < 1365029234 876694 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: it was't like, engine abuse, just solutions that felt really hacky < 1365029239 645860 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, I did end up having to look up solutions in a couple of places, which really annoyed me. < 1365029247 706732 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :... yeah, I did too, in a couple :< < 1365029254 940671 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric : and all the time, when solving a problem, there was that feeling of "oh wow this is totally cheating there's no way I'm supposed to do it this way" <-- not all the time, but yes, sometimes definitely < 1365029257 767080 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it felt doubly worse when they were /so obvious/ in retrospect -_- < 1365029272 987274 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like the way to get across that gap labelled "WTF?" < 1365029278 996701 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, had to look up a solution in one place, forgot what it was now. < 1365029284 741117 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: of course not, media is plural < 1365029287 58865 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I puzzled over it for ages and the solution was just so dead simple < 1365029289 622007 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think they could've made it clearer that rectangles would fill themselves in. < 1365029309 267614 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't know at the start of the game that I'd get another cube gun -_- < 1365029316 744276 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I got 'stuck' on the things that needed the green cube gun < 1365029319 765353 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-245.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :man it really does look like a shinier Mondo Medicals < 1365029325 263341 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, which one was the WTF one. I played the game like a couple of days after release, so I forgot what puzzle went where < 1365029328 738269 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: social medium then, sounds about right for #esoteric < 1365029337 772 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: it was a red gap with the text "WTF?" in it, in red cubes < 1365029339 539953 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, the one with a big floating "WTF" in it < 1365029347 996155 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it had that gas that stopped you from placing cubes there < 1365029356 142498 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, was it the one where you couldn't place blocks? Or the one where the text was blocks? < 1365029362 225599 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :there were like both kinds of gaps < 1365029368 907209 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Both. < 1365029369 943151 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you couldn't do abusiveness like moving blocks in from outside or moving the text < 1365029373 307432 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it 'seemed' like there was no way across < 1365029385 680605 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :spoiler:0,0the solution is not to go across at all < 1365029394 667707 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, in one place I remember placing blocks below the area I couldn't place blocks and doing a "cheating-feeling" solution to get across < 1365029404 702586 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, oh right, that gap < 1365029406 890616 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1365029410 737960 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that was it XD < 1365029430 193103 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT : < 1365029433 9225 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was hoping that wold just be more spaces < 1365029434 470688 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*would < 1365029450 774187 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1365029453 624182 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, in Antichamber? < 1365029463 363818 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, I never quite figured out how to properly use the red gun. < 1365029474 179067 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't always act like I wanted < 1365029481 352117 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's like, you just sort of use it to pull the blocks around? < 1365029483 716017 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was kind of tricky though < 1365029492 107494 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it took a lot of effort to finagle it into doing what I wanted < 1365029493 270913 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or push them out < 1365029506 793905 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was the pushing out that was the major issue < 1365029516 171408 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :To push is enough! < 1365029517 337410 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: in Fiora's line < 1365029518 992854 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :one thing I learned quickly was you can't always move the blocks in any direction, since you can only move them towards a spot you can point the gun at < 1365029521 963870 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, oh okay < 1365029527 292997 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, did you play the game in question? < 1365029538 696297 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, well yes obviously < 1365029548 168559 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so like, if you're pointing to a block on the floor, you can't use the gun to lift the block up unless there's a wall you can point at < 1365029561 747023 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: nope < 1365029564 578437 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was kind of nonintuitive at least I felt but it was fun < 1365029604 705441 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, also I had watched TotalBiscuit's video on youtube before buying the game, so I did know a bit of what to expect at the start. In hindsight the game would have been more enjoyable without that, but I never buy a game without reading reviews or watching initial impressions, so... < 1365029612 343777 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1365029614 833581 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I went into it totally blind < 1365029617 837984 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the little red line made that easy enough to grasp. < 1365029618 336803 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :(obviously, kickstarters are an exception to this) < 1365029630 3219 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I pretty much went just off the rockpapershotgun review >.> < 1365029643 28716 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-245.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION loads up an LP
< 1365029643 222742 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also TB's footage only showed the first 5 or 6 rooms. < 1365029651 887617 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-245.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lovin' the inspirational messages all over the place < 1365029656 662713 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, really his video was from PaX the previous year, and didn't cover it all the way up to the first gun even. < 1365029669 495705 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, it did help with the red/blue stairs though < 1365029676 40566 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that part XD < 1365029684 871803 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got that one pretty quickly, it made me laugh < 1365029690 513975 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I loved it when the game just trolled me like that < 1365029702 337176 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, indeed, but it helped me understand the mindset intended for the game < 1365029702 835521 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like the place where you kept going in circles and everything was repeating itself < 1365029707 308565 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if you went like around 5 times < 1365029713 472250 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :... it led to the exit anyways < 1365029723 781407 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, that spiraled inwards though < 1365029738 416183 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slowly enough that you can't notice at first, though. < 1365029738 611338 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :?? I guess I didn't notice that < 1365029738 806050 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : I guess I didn't notice that < 1365029739 438830 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :or do you mean the area with green coloured areas? < 1365029756 969935 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ummm there was that one too, but I meant the black and white slowly turning corridor < 1365029765 447280 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that went in a circle < 1365029766 939667 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, I assumed you meant the area with <> sign < 1365029770 470394 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :... yup! < 1365029771 479058 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one < 1365029771 825387 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'd be interesting to open Antichamber in whatever level editor UE3 has. < 1365029780 1115 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, that one spiraled. < 1365029782 692462 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahhhh < 1365029796 674721 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, though not as much as it SHOULD have spiraled to be physically possible < 1365029797 164851 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It did a really good job of hiding the splices < 1365029801 539512 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1365029831 322298 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, it might be generating the levels on the fly from the perspective of the character in certain situations? < 1365029860 603621 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I... don't really see what you mean. < 1365029863 293566 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, though the clean aesthetics would help with splicing, no shadows to worry about for example. < 1365029886 223567 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh, all the colours are due to lighting. < 1365029912 163124 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the splicing was kind of amazing, like, the one where you look up, and the floor disappears < 1365029914 6645 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-245.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, the menu's cool < 1365029915 191747 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, I mean there might in places not be a level file as such, that the engine reads in an defines as the geometry. Rather the game code could dynamically construct the geometry visible by the player at any given time. < 1365029915 714098 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but in the meantime it changed the room's exit < 1365029924 809492 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the textures are all blank white. < 1365029943 106698 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, I kind of doubt it. < 1365029948 369848 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1365029949 537337 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I loved the puzzles that were about looking somewhere < 1365029956 124649 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and just. agh. the game was so fun < 1365029960 663596 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :For one thing, it would be a /lot/ of work without a custom-built engine. < 1365029976 135879 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, those puzzle made me think "how would it physically detect that" though < 1365029983 874912 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yes, they were kind of cool < 1365029987 799103 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, I was a bit narked at the puzzle where you have to look at a circle on the wall and walk backwards though. < 1365029999 134696 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I loved that one XD < 1365030004 237374 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, btw, the thing with the pink cube moving in a slit along walls in certain areas < 1365030008 844665 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :what on earth was that about < 1365030012 533713 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because those circles were all over the place in earlier sections and they'd never had any significance before. < 1365030014 539481 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I googled about that later < 1365030019 821410 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the official statement was that they literally did nothing < 1365030030 472316 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, lol, I was successfully trolled then < 1365030041 479614 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you saw how they worked though, right? < 1365030044 453881 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they'd move only when you looked at them < 1365030046 280231 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric : For one thing, it would be a /lot/ of work without a custom-built engine. <-- true < 1365030052 901632 :carado!~carado@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:221:63ff:fe9a:3747 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1365030063 112240 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did < 1365030071 339889 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I moved them all along to the end in each case < 1365030074 355817 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, so, the pink cubes don't do something -now-, but they might do something in a future update? and they are saved ni the savegame file < 1365030077 687541 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*in < 1365030083 496444 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1365030282 734292 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :night → < 1365030563 834618 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello guys < 1365030830 893843 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: you entered 5 minutes after everyone went silent hth < 1365030862 656668 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they were expecting me of course < 1365030869 486861 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... < 1365030878 579925 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just back from a representation of a midsummer night's dream < 1365030881 253374 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was awesome < 1365030888 341841 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-245.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a representation < 1365030898 88893 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-245.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds mysterious and probably fun since it's midsummer < 1365030898 478740 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that the proper english word? < 1365030900 210780 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a representation < 1365030909 574168 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-245.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you mean a performance? < 1365030911 831689 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-245.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :as of a play < 1365030912 78188 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm imagining great things < 1365030914 464964 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes I do < 1365030917 167630 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like a representation in braille < 1365030921 540564 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :on a cube < 1365030923 228358 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just sort of go and look at it < 1365030929 360848 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: what you think is the proper english word never is hth < 1365030929 556031 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe a representation of it as music < 1365030936 729923 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a misdummer night's dream you can smell < 1365030944 365930 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that tends to happen a lot < 1365030951 653620 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-245.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you can't smell a performance of midsummer it's not a very good performance imo < 1365030951 848639 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so how about you all go silent for five minutes < 1365030955 157533 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I enter again < 1365031205 666115 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello guys! < 1365031278 377229 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-245.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1365031388 834470 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just back from a performance of a midsummer night's dream < 1365031392 385832 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was awesome < 1365031418 13160 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a performance? < 1365031419 203200 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you mean a representation < 1365031445 259064 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1365031451 826694 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-245.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the part of hippolyta will be played by this integer < 1365031464 615477 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1365031466 483788 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously? < 1365031470 836984 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1365031500 74619 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what i want to know is whether it was a _unitary_ representation. < 1365031502 473089 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not gonna look it up - I trust you guys! < 1365031510 376835 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a unitary < 1365031516 99149 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-245.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a kind of matrix < 1365031522 645380 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does that mean it all takes place in the same place and at the same time < 1365031528 88046 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks Bike < 1365031541 857216 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: no, that's greek drama i think < 1365031546 651446 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: ps i wasn't being serious < 1365031561 570613 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliot not being serious? do you expect me to believe that! < 1365031572 236700 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliot is always serious. < 1365031598 408342 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-245.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm a unitary matrix is a "square root" of "unity", that's neat < 1365031621 304802 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: um that's not true. < 1365031644 508124 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-245.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no conjugate transpose < 1365031692 274665 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw Hippolyta was played by the same actress as Titania - which kinda makes sense since Hippolyta DOESN'T SAY A WORD IN THE WHOLE DAMN PLAY < 1365031702 882621 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a normal matrix whose eigenvalues are all on the unit circle. < 1365031737 309746 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-245.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's pretty cool. < 1365031816 889427 :sivoais!~zaki@unaffiliated/sivoais QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1365031834 555201 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that's listed as point 7 on wikipedia < 1365031904 349195 :sivoais!~zaki@unaffiliated/sivoais JOIN :#esoteric < 1365032156 96391 :constant!root@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1365033091 721226 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, I guess an educational excersize for me might be for me to write a class Upcastable child parent where upcast :: child -> parent < 1365033096 59280 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And just start writing instances < 1365033448 995033 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: i think i must ban you for trolling hth < 1365033466 327449 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1365033498 436252 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds like stereotypically trying to force OO idioms to work in haskell < 1365033512 93634 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is a common newbie error < 1365033515 640365 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-245.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that really a "cast" < 1365033517 921023 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is not doing it with practical intent
< 1365033564 295916 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :O KAY