00:00:07 elliott: although you wouldn't know since by what i see you haven't been there in six months. unless you have another account? but then i would be recalling recent r/haskell comments, i expect. 00:01:19 * oerjan finds u/elliott which seems completely unused but six years old. 00:01:22 i read /r/haskell (and /r/roguelikes though that's mostly to laugh at people saying silly things) 00:01:30 nothing else and i never comment any more 00:02:06 well I also laugh at people saying silly things in /r/haskell 00:03:01 well i hope you have more interesting things to do instead. 00:03:20 what could be more interesting than reddit *laugh track* 00:03:55 Bike: i'm sorry that needs to be a link to quickmeme 00:04:01 thankfully /r/haskell is getting worse 00:04:04 I'm sorry too 00:04:07 so I may be able to quit entirely 00:04:10 about that 00:05:06 actually i'm not sure if quickmeme is still prevalent, since i stopped browsing the largest subreddits 00:06:06 i still have r/science there, but lately i've rarely got around to it since i browse my subreddits mostly smallest first 00:07:16 and r/programming but i don't think that's very memy. or maybe i'm just mind ignoring. 00:07:33 /r/programming is awful 00:07:57 pop quiz: elliott, name something that isn't awful 00:08:02 elliott: i've realized i mostly just click the haskell links in it 00:08:12 is there an r/lambda calculus ? 00:08:15 Bike: hmmmm 00:08:17 Bike: maybe dreams 00:08:17 doesthiswork: yes 00:08:20 i recall it 00:08:26 oh i only have nightmares 00:08:30 it was pretty tiny though 00:09:53 r/physics and r/math are probably my favorite intermediate size ones 00:11:31 i find r/askhistorians nearly as addictive as tvtropes once i start browsing it, but it's big so i rarely do 00:14:41 what's wrong with mezzacotta today :( ... oh there it finally loaded 00:16:19 what about a lang without global variables 00:16:32 you have to pass to a function everything you want it to know 00:16:35 forth? 00:16:46 Regis__: welcome to haskell 00:17:09 the way i pictured it it'd be imperative 00:17:31 imagine there's no heaven, it's easy if you try 00:19:27 this is old news but the fact that a function can have a different function hidden inside it is fascinating to me 00:19:41 that'd be a pure dataflow language 00:20:07 hidden? 00:20:27 like when you only care about wether a number is even '+' is equivalent to iff 00:20:51 and multiply is 'or' 00:21:50 doesthiswork: ah algebraic quotients 00:25:22 like this 00:25:24 http://pastebin.com/UzKjsgPd 00:26:05 unsummon self 00:26:55 what kind of witchery is this? 00:29:07 oerjan has it right 00:29:10 (thumbs up) 00:29:54 all functions are loops, except the builtins 00:30:48 so you have to tell it when to stop 00:31:09 regis__ have you read the iterate manual? 00:31:23 Regis__, Newspeak? 00:31:40 haven't 00:31:52 what's newspeak? 00:32:03 http://newspeaklanguage.org/ 00:32:11 Language based on Smalltalk that tries to have no global state 00:33:44 message-based? 00:33:51 yeah 00:33:53 And OO 00:34:10 Regis__: could you walk me through this program? 00:34:16 yes 00:34:26 Not intended to be esoteric 00:34:49 I made loopxy first 00:34:54 which is the inner loop 00:35:25 in loopxy x is constant, only y varies 00:35:34 so "bind self loopxy conjure empty" is the function signature? 00:35:49 bindself creates a variable 00:36:06 it starts with an empty function, then you add commands 00:36:26 enchant adds commands? 00:36:29 yes 00:36:33 ah 00:37:04 now I think I can read it 00:37:19 I thought it'd be fun for functions altering functions at run time 00:37:26 but haven't done any of that yet 00:39:26 what does "skip 2" do? 00:41:11 -!- Regis__ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 00:41:37 -!- Regis__ has joined. 00:43:24 Regis__: what does "skip 2" do? 00:50:44 -!- copumpkin has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 00:50:45 * Your friends and colleagues describe you as a "rockstar" programmer; your programming ability is way above average; 00:50:49 http://www.haskell.org/pipermail/haskell-cafe/2013-April/107479.html 00:51:08 it skips two commands 00:51:08 -!- augur has joined. 00:51:14 what's "agile" mean, if anything 00:51:16 ;_; 00:51:24 -!- copumpkin has joined. 00:51:45 it will go right to set y (+ y 1) 00:51:58 man at least job applications in biosciences are just like "you are willing to put your arms through a cow" 00:52:09 I was above average in my below average school. Does that count? 00:52:11 hahaha 00:52:40 Bike: please send us a link to your CowHub profile of cows you have previously put your arms through on your own time for fun 00:52:58 we find that people who put their arms through cows on thier own for fun are at least 10x more effective at doing so on the job 00:53:00 please provide at least two zebrafish you have modified to glow in the dark 00:53:29 my school had a box on the application that was just "put anything you want here" 00:53:32 Bike: have you put your arm through a cow ever 00:53:34 my friend stapled a dirty sock to it 00:53:43 haha 00:53:54 elliott: thankfully i'm not that much of a farmboy 00:54:00 -!- SDr has quit (Disconnected by services). 00:54:01 `addquote man at least job applications in biosciences are just like "you are willing to put your arms through a cow" Bike: please send us a link to your CowHub profile of cows you have previously put your arms through on your own time for fun 00:54:05 1017) man at least job applications in biosciences are just like "you are willing to put your arms through a cow" Bike: please send us a link to your CowHub profile of cows you have previously put your arms through on your own time for fun 00:54:06 "You are not afraid to get your hands dirty on low-level code, hijack 00:54:07 a malloc() call in the standard C library, port the latest gdb 00:54:07 debugger to Android on a jail-broken tablet? You get it done." 00:54:14 Bike: good (i can't be friends with anyone who has had their arm through a cow) 00:54:17 (sorry) 00:54:23 cowist 00:54:25 (it's nothing personal) 00:54:33 That.... if I felt a need to do anything like that, I'd be alarmed that either I was doing something wrong, or the libraries I was using were broken. 00:54:37 "Applicants must possess a BSc with a 1st class degree with a background in molecular biology, physiology, biology, zoology, or a related subject." see, how hard is that 00:54:42 elliott, what if you are 00:54:45 elliott: um ive gone "kinda deep" into some copy on write code............. 00:54:53 does that count 00:54:56 oerjan: imo the zebrafish line should be included 00:55:00 Phantom_Hoover: what if i am... what 00:55:08 yes but are you a rock star 00:55:10 already friends with someone who etc. 00:55:14 a cow star 00:55:20 do you have ridiculous 80s hair, a bad drug habit, and own 17 guitars? 00:55:21 a roc star 00:55:37 Fiora: yes. absolutely 00:55:39 copy on write code = libraries that can only be used by copying them into your project and then extensively modifying them 00:55:41 "The ideal candidate for the Ph.D. position would have a strong background in neuroscience and would be highly motivated to carry out demanding experimental procedures." i read "demeaning" 00:55:44 Fiora: that is my dream 00:55:59 Bike: Demanding, demeaning. Same thing. 00:56:08 oh man this other one? it puts "virtual reality" in scare quotes 00:56:12 kmc: zlib is generally treated as such. :) 00:56:16 «a “virtual reality” wind tunnel» 00:56:32 apparently this involves a real wind tunnel 00:56:37 that's p. virtual 00:56:47 You'd be surprised how many projects have straight copies of zlib in them. 00:56:48 `run sed -i '1017s/$/ please provide at least two zebrafish you have modified to glow in the dark/' quotes 00:56:50 No output. 00:56:52 Bike: which part is real, the wind or the tunnel 00:57:13 well, the tunnel 00:57:20 really the wind in a wind tunnel is always manufactured 00:57:39 virtual wind 00:57:40 I have some tomatoes I've geneticaly modified to grow galls, if that counts 00:57:44 literal wind 00:58:12 `quote 1017 00:58:14 No output. 00:58:19 nice 00:58:21 wat 00:58:33 `quote 1017 00:58:34 No output. 00:58:42 `quote 1016 00:58:43 1016) healthy immune system is a wonderful thing, you gotta take advantage sometimes i eat food off the ground just to keep mine on its toes 00:58:54 @quote kmc 00:58:54 kmc says: I enjoy it when people write "C/C++" on their resume as if it were one language... so "F#/FORTRAN/Forth", "Perl/Python/Pascal", "Ruby/REBOL/R" 00:58:56 wow the heck did you do 00:59:07 oerjan.................................. 00:59:10 `paste quotes 00:59:13 http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/quotes 00:59:21 -!- ChanServ has set channel mode: +o oerjan. 00:59:29 `run tail -n 5 quotes 00:59:29 elliott: correction, actually. you own 16. you just smashed one :P 00:59:31 in category theory, category theory is a theory in the category of theories \ It appears magenta in my computer only because it is programmed to display bold text as magenta. \ It's like narnia only with dicks \ My opinion is that you are all wrong, as far as I can tell. \ healthy immune system is a wonderfu 00:59:36 wait why did i think that would work 00:59:39 `run tail -n 2 quotes 00:59:41 My opinion is that you are all wrong, as far as I can tell. \ healthy immune system is a wonderful thing, you gotta take advantage sometimes i eat food off the ground just to keep mine on its toes 00:59:42 -!- oerjan has set channel mode: +b *!*phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486. 00:59:42 -!- oerjan has kicked Phantom_Hoover If you are going to delete quotes, do it in public. 00:59:58 help 00:59:58 `help 00:59:58 Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch " downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ 01:00:04 thx 01:00:27 oerjan: I take back every ellipsis. 01:00:29 -!- oerjan has set channel mode: -o oerjan. 01:00:37 Fiora: i'll smash this guitar like i'll smash your inefficient coding styles *bashes interviewer's head in* 01:00:44 shachaf: OKAY 01:01:02 Bike: you smash bugs and functions missing unit tests! 01:01:11 `quote 999 01:01:12 999) ok im sober now and DNS makes sense again [...] Domain Name System [...] ♫ domain name system ♫ 01:01:18 `quote 1000 01:01:19 1000) `quote 1000 01:02:07 so.... am i a zebrafish or not 01:02:40 how's your swimming endurance? 01:02:47 oh gosh, from that haskell thread 01:02:49 "I get a high score in http://areyouabrogrammer.com - does that qualifyme for the above point? :D" 01:04:19 doesthiswork: one time i was completely underwater for five whole minutes! i was unconscious for most of it but still 01:04:44 `quote 1017 01:04:46 No output. 01:04:48 `revert 01:04:50 Done. 01:04:54 `quote 1017 01:04:55 1017) man at least job applications in biosciences are just like "you are willing to put your arms through a cow" Bike: please send us a link to your CowHub profile of cows you have previously put your arms through on your own time for fun 01:05:57 `run sed -i '1017s/$/ please provide at least two zebrafish you have modified to glow in the dark/' quotes 01:06:13 `run sed -i '1017s/$/ please provide at least two zebrafish you have modified to glow in the dark/' quotes 01:06:16 No output. 01:06:20 SUPER ED! 01:07:13 I tasted avocado 01:07:20 It was very messy on my hands :( 01:07:46 um you don't eat avocado with your hands 01:07:52 you eat it with your mouth 01:07:55 hth 01:08:53 sgeo..... 01:09:26 kmc: Why is it that sometimes I press up-arrow enter, and I get [A? 01:09:34 shouldn't mosh ""handle that"""" 01:10:20 `quote 1017 01:10:22 1017) man at least job applications in biosciences are just like "you are willing to put your arms through a cow" Bike: please send us a link to your CowHub profile of cows you have previously put your arms through on your own time for fun please provide at least two zebrafish you have modified to glow in the dark 01:10:32 excellent 01:10:42 excel lent 01:12:05 shachaf: is that when you have make do with a single column spreadsheet? 01:12:11 *+to 01:13:04 @quote kmc 01:13:04 kmc says: if you can't see ∈ might i suggest € 01:13:12 €xcellent 01:13:20 @quote kmc 01:13:20 kmc says: time to play "transfinite ordinal or asian emoticon" 01:13:39 @quote kmc 01:13:40 kmc says: $ ($) <$> 01:13:47 ? 01:13:47 @quote kmc 01:13:48 kmc says: > compare "trifecta" "parsec" —> GT 01:14:21 —> 01:14:58 wow 01:15:00 -!- Nisstyre has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 01:15:23 good quotes. 01:15:34 is there any reason -ever- to write that and not go all the way to → or ⇒ 01:15:44 this is pretty funny : "Thanks to the individual who discovered the SQL injection hole. Please contact us if you want to claim your prize" 01:15:51 monqy: those are "kinda small" 01:16:10 monqy: I can type — on my keyboard, but I can't type → on my keyboard. 01:16:25 So the answer to your question is yes. 01:16:28 @forget kmc > compare "trifecta" "parsec" —> GT 01:16:29 Done. 01:16:32 @remember kmc > compare "trifecta" "parsec" → GT 01:16:33 It is forever etched in my memory. 01:16:37 now people will think better of kmc 01:16:56 @quote kmc 01:16:57 kmc says: head [] = peek . intPtrToPtr . fromIntegral . unsafePerformIO . randomRIO $ (0, 2^32) 01:17:03 sure by DOCTORING THE HISTORICAL RECORD 01:17:21 @quote Warrigal 01:17:22 Warrigal says: Hey, the module loaded. I didn't expect that. 01:17:36 is tswett = Warrigal 01:17:41 Yes. 01:17:45 @quote tswett 01:17:46 No quotes match. You untyped fool! 01:17:49 who says good quotes, just kmc? 01:17:49 @quote uorygl 01:17:50 No quotes match. I am sorry. 01:17:52 ha, ha, untyped 01:17:53 @quote kerlo 01:17:53 kerlo says: It's pretty convenient that Parsec isn't bound by any rules. I use it in my gas tank; it works pretty well. 01:17:53 @quote kmc 01:17:54 kmc says: monads are like containers, as long as you forget everything you know about the meaning of the word "container" and take it to be a totally abstract word synonymous with "monad" 01:18:01 `run rm -rf tswett 01:18:02 No output. 01:18:14 I don't get that kerlo quote. 01:18:18 Someone ask kerlo what he meant by that. 01:18:30 jerkiL what did you meant by that 01:18:32 > compare "trifecta" "parsec" 01:18:32 @forget kmc head [] = peek . intPtrToPtr . fromIntegral . unsafePerformIO . randomRIO $ (0, 2^32) 01:18:32 Done. 01:18:33 GT 01:18:37 @remember kmc head [] = unsafePerformIO . peek . intPtrToPtr . fromIntegral . unsafePerformIO . randomRIO $ (0, 2^32) 01:18:38 Nice! 01:18:44 i am head of kmc's PR department 01:18:59 @quote kmc 01:19:00 kmc says: φ you lambdabot 01:19:09 elliott u r fabricating history 01:19:52 elliott!! !! 01:19:57 ….. 01:20:50 Should I go to the Berkeley ASCE GM? 01:20:55 yeah. 01:20:57 For some reason I'm invited? 01:21:07 maybe im secretly a civil engineer 01:21:20 amoral sex committee experience game master 01:21:24 the joke is that im not very civil 01:21:27 brought to you by berkeley 01:21:53 > compare "trifecta" "parsec" 01:21:55 GT 01:22:06 oh hm 01:22:32 STUPID REFERENTIAL TRANSPARENCY 01:22:54 @quote kmc 01:22:55 kmc says: most CS courses will teach you four kinds of Java 01:23:24 @quote kmc 01:23:25 kmc says: Haskell isn't really designed by mathematicians. it's designed by people who programmers would consider to be mathematicians and mathematicians would consider to be programmers 01:23:28 i wonder if all these fake quotes will be automatically in the next hwn 01:23:46 No, HWN is based on scanning #haskell logs 01:23:52 oh. 01:24:08 Lame. 01:24:11 wait do i believe that. 01:24:19 imo yes. 01:24:25 oh okay 01:24:26 imo listen to Bike 01:24:49 Bike, more like Trike 01:25:21 shachaf more like mircea eliade 01:25:38 oerjan: it's actually true 01:25:58 Bike more like hi monqy 01:26:00 (hi monqy) 01:26:00 very clever, elliott. i'm actually starting to believe it now. 01:26:14 hi shachaf 01:26:30 monqy: when are we going to get the next super mega comics update 01:26:37 soon i hope!!! 01:26:43 im getting withdrawal 01:26:47 yes 01:26:51 "we can see" 01:26:58 help 01:27:28 -!- Mathnerd626 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 01:27:34 monqy: can i have a hug 01:27:45 -!- Regis__ has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 01:28:15 what sort of hug are we talking here 01:28:20 im not a "contact guy" 01:28:28 @hug 01:28:29 http://hackage.haskell.org/trac/ghc/newticket?type=bug 01:29:00 kmc: the 20th is the date when all the high school students and their parents will come to visit uc berkeley 01:29:12 my friend tells me there will be ""trouble"" 01:29:20 and make it double? 01:30:23 -!- Nisstyre has joined. 01:33:52 ???? 01:37:37 Maybe they make it even more than double this time. 01:37:55 Possible. 01:38:00 zzo38: did you know you're the best thing about #esoteric 01:39:35 shachaf: Well, it is kind of subjective, I guess, so maybe it is. 01:40:06 No, objectively. 01:40:16 Objectively, I am not sure. 01:41:58 Saying something doesn't (normally) make it true or false. 01:42:33 http://codepad.org/9oV2YO9k zzo38_ebooks 01:43:05 kmc: I would follow that account! 01:43:37 imo do it 01:44:03 zzo38: if I made a twitter bot that tweets things generated by a Markov chain trained on things you have said in #esoteric, how would you feel about that? 01:44:09 kmc are you like stalking zzo 01:44:22 kmc: I don't care whether you do it or not. 01:44:22 oh this is generated. 01:44:42 * No direct even cheese, you everything multiply thing words have invent thinking preferer or none or two separately improve* it (even in their ladders too. 01:45:04 i can generate about 3000 of these per second 01:45:06 But perhaps you should mention what it is (put a "spoiler" message if you want people to guess at first). 01:45:15 kmc: But they're not limited at 140 character, are they? 01:45:27 kmc: I don't cheater_: [Joke]]]]]]]]]]]] 01:45:58 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 01:46:28 kmc: If you like to, include stuff from my computer games and Dungeons&Dragons game too (conversion might be required; I have already converted the MZX games to plain text a while ago, though). 01:47:13 -!- nooodl has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 01:47:35 http://codepad.org/dCU2oBN0 some thoughts on the Famicom 01:47:54 Famicompetent? 01:47:56 "4#92L17+2L17,L26+2L38 3#96L12+2L36 #124L23 150L30 21L13 #35L15+D33 108L26 249L55 ENERGY { po }" looks a slightly mixed up listing of a Pokemon card deck. 01:48:24 > kmc: Well, yes. You can try at the different name out, Famicom music using diagram, and mpappend to be display the text, or I agree without powerful but OK than EBCDIC? 01:48:25 :1:10: parse error on input `,' 01:48:38 kmc: you might want to strip out names from this 01:48:38 I do like Famicom making on religion in "all" instead one 01:48:45 like just discard "foo:" from the beginning of the line for every foo 01:48:50 » A lot of monads a bytes and ever you have to bijective-C, too; if the human try, in ordinates than HTTP requiring, ignored immediate looked, NTSC Famicom exponents. 01:48:53 that's poetry 01:48:56 Use gopher, Rlogin, a few other the Famicompo Mini vol.9 see that advertically valid) 01:49:05 kmc: also your markov chain generator needs to balance various forms of brackets better 01:49:14 A lot of it doesn't make a lot of sense, but it is made up at random so I can see how. 01:49:54 » However using Famicom; imports 42 redpill | man is, than the slash? 01:49:58 "- { * } HP: 5 W: { # }" is also a part of a Pokemon card game 01:50:02 Then the damagine in difference -sr (equal to Y iff the moveToZone -> ObjMinor.Revision and the Famicom_noise,phase it doesn't 01:50:29 » Imakuni?'s cartridge. When though ASIC isn't it? Any fill as strings that checked output it might also compiled to pay though (Decompiler in modules? I was long; however, however, somethings, my idea: If not know what is a digraph in the Meta-Meta-Meta-Lamp in WEB or Pascal coording to themselves on semigroup is some in Curry-Howard of the DVI and the challenge idea. Even therefore 1989 something event at the way must the moon, ev 01:50:55 could just make a zzo38 model for fungot; reuse that enterprise code 01:50:56 elliott: and the next handler. there is not 01:50:58 in fact fungot can already tweet 01:50:58 elliott: i found it, chill. :) if you can, for instance 01:51:08 http://twitter.com/fungot 01:51:08 elliott: no mutta mä fnord. tack. " how stella got her car keys back". 01:51:34 » #!/bin/son!fuckyou.php" 01:51:38 About NetHack: coleridge. 01:51:40 why did fungot stop tweeting 01:51:40 monqy: spaces are ethereal, and for port-80 connections... well: just something like a woman 01:51:44 The Markov in fungot seems working a bit better, though, not combining two words incorrectly a lot. 01:53:38 languages used in generating this text: Perl, Python, sh, Haskell, C of course 01:53:43 a wonderful world we live in 01:53:53 C/C of course 01:54:48 what was the haskell for 01:54:52 » gopher://zzo38computer Modern before dead laws imports *many* other. 01:54:54 imo good motto 01:55:02 elliott: the generator program is detrospector 01:55:03 the one i wrote 01:55:14 what was the perl for, and also the python 01:55:24 perl for grepping out lines said by zzo 01:55:36 python for generating a curl command line to download all the esoteric logs 01:55:44 sh for running that curl command line 01:55:48 or wget, i forgot 01:55:50 w/e 01:55:56 isn't there an rsync for that job 01:56:03 ye there is 01:56:06 say !logs to see it 01:56:11 !logs 01:56:17 !LOGS 01:56:21 oh 01:56:22 shachaf...... 01:56:38 monqy: hey i don't watch window 1 01:56:47 you should!! 01:56:53 do i look like a person who watches window 1 2 u 01:57:01 hmmmm 01:57:24 btw i look like this: http://slbkbs.org/sb/1.png 01:58:26 kmc can confirm i look like that 01:59:34 ah... 02:01:59