< 1366157124 407123 :PonyPonyPony!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmmmmmmm, MSG. < 1366157224 260177 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :MSG is one of my favorite seasonings. < 1366157404 256614 :PonyPonyPony!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are too many variables in making curry for me to make any real comments on whether it improved things *shrugs* < 1366157408 709779 :PonyPonyPony!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But this IS some tasty curry X-D < 1366157717 368334 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it would be nice to be able take a function you'd made and make a variation of it where "floor" was replaced by "ceiling" without having to modify the text of the first functions < 1366157734 896690 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because sometimes I don't plan ahead < 1366157766 405748 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you considered search/replace < 1366157806 537578 :pib1978!pib1978@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:bb80 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1366157895 138983 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :making the replacements is no problem, it just so happens that many times i find myself trying out small variations on previous functions, and it'd be nice to just specify the changes without making the original function more complicated. < 1366157919 65112 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :where floor = ceiling < 1366157952 799321 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter JOIN :#esoteric < 1366157974 100784 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes! and min = max < 1366157976 974620 :calamari!~calamari@70-6-33-3.pools.spcsdns.net QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1366158034 334042 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and maybe 1 = 0 < 1366158045 352366 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let 1 = 0 < 1366158047 213332 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined. < 1366158062 531232 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@1 < 1366158063 141974 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: . ? @ v < 1366158077 587576 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: well you could put the functions you use as arguments < 1366158109 903531 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :koen_: yes, that is the responsible thing to do < 1366158126 774873 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 = 0 isn't effective haskell < 1366158157 41674 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter QUIT :Client Quit < 1366158164 43276 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :psh responsible < 1366158178 192989 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: The struct held his beloved integer in his strong, protecting arms, his eyes like sapphire orbs staring into her own. "W-will you... Will you union me?" < 1366158225 454958 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is something attractive about starting with a concrete example and then ad-hocly parameterizing it < 1366158261 882672 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: the spammers seem to be about to fill the recent changes with registrations only :P < 1366158327 666787 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t floor < 1366158329 788885 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Integral b, RealFrac a) => a -> b < 1366158338 631562 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src RealFrac < 1366158339 227735 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :class (Real a, Fractional a) => RealFrac a where < 1366158339 422198 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : properFraction :: (Integral b) => a -> (b,a) < 1366158339 422306 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : truncate, round, ceiling, floor :: (Integral b) => a -> b < 1366158381 660479 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: just make a newtype swapping ceiling and floor methods hth < 1366158395 6561 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this doesn't really help) < 1366158430 425242 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is making wiki accounts turing complete < 1366158432 707361 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :brilliant, I didn't even think of that < 1366158616 107778 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hi oerjan < 1366158623 15975 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome oerjan < 1366158625 634658 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1366158639 659452 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :g'dachaf < 1366158697 908204 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: any new news < 1366159093 848491 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: that sounds like sort of a fit for implicit arguments < 1366159107 774473 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :GHC for example supports those < 1366159134 78670 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t let f x y = ?toInt ((x + y) / 2) in nf < 1366159135 500863 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `nf' < 1366159135 694897 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Perhaps you meant one of these: < 1366159135 694994 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : `f' (line 1), `f' (imported from Debug.SimpleReflect), < 1366159136 326640 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t let f x y = ?toInt ((x + y) / 2) in f < 1366159137 657503 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(?toInt::a -> t, Fractional a) => a -> a -> t < 1366159163 499155 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you would call this like «let ?toInt = ceiling in f 4 7» < 1366159170 596442 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t ?toInt < 1366159171 858629 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter JOIN :#esoteric < 1366159172 185228 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(?toInt::t) => t < 1366159177 506357 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you can have an outer 'default' value and shadow it locally < 1366159179 267135 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1366159244 321787 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t ?fargle < 1366159245 922110 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(?fargle::t) => t < 1366159255 361962 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it just any identifier with an initial question mark < 1366159281 769405 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that syntax is light enough that I wouldn't mind it < 1366159288 609661 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t ?hapax_legomenon < 1366159290 205108 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(?hapax_legomenon::t) => t < 1366159296 500834 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1366159331 53187 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yes < 1366159353 535396 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :type class constraints themselves are sort of like implicit parameters < 1366159386 258226 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can locally override these things? is it like, dynamically scoped < 1366159387 671509 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the key difference is that you can only have one instance for a given type and class, globally, while these implicit parameters can be shadowed locally < 1366159398 891578 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, it's essentially an implementation of dynamic scope in Haskell < 1366159439 540001 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I,I instance (?foo :: Int) => ... where < 1366159479 158717 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :locally overriding a type class instance would be super useful as well < 1366159487 928593 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but presents some difficulties with the way type classes are used today < 1366159494 232981 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1366159500 311763 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish I knew a good way to make that work. :-( < 1366159513 819591 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the code for «union :: (Ord k) => Map k v -> Map k v -> Map k v» is allowed to assume that the two maps were constructed wrt the same ordering < 1366159556 37673 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is always "reflection", though. < 1366159579 514682 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a paper somewhere on unifying type classes and implicit params, but afaik they just have a keyword to say if local shadowing is allowed or not < 1366159585 655586 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you still have to make this tradeoff < 1366160106 623336 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-41-137.public.wayport.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1366160146 919926 :carado_!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1366160166 264153 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"GOMADWarrior: we're not #transhumanism" /ignore is great < 1366160267 96302 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :who are they trolling now < 1366160272 873819 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :#haskell < 1366160281 748606 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And also whatever channel Bike is in. < 1366160285 923696 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh are they there too < 1366160288 249003 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :00:53:05 what if it was possible to upload knowledge directly to the brain < 1366160299 106710 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :imagine there's no heaven, it's easy if you try < 1366160310 553373 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :imagine there's no GOMADWarrior, it's easy if you /ignore < 1366160366 107558 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fine, be reasonable < 1366160367 940063 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that GOMADWarrior guy is quite clever, managing to troll us by proxy even when he's banned. < 1366160375 718686 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_> sorry < 1366160384 785158 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike how terrible a job am I doing at talking lisp things < 1366160397 966140 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're doing pretty fine < 1366160399 302304 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh boy are you in #lisp < 1366160407 523097 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially since "lisp things" means "x86 instruction coding" < 1366160410 647085 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :very lispy < 1366160427 498392 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: (you (need) ((more (parentheses ())))) < 1366160430 489593 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*lithp thingth? < 1366160479 404094 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the worst programming jokes < 1366160496 192909 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel like I'm not really good enough for this stuff though -_- < 1366160568 442147 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you always seem to feel that way < 1366160579 191941 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly you can't trust your sense of being good enough < 1366160581 42187 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the main problem you could have would be unfamiliarity with the codebase < 1366160591 183323 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like you probably don't have any idea what stassats meant by "inheritance" there < 1366160594 78468 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :could that be because it's always true < 1366160595 844165 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also what shachaf said. < 1366160597 502242 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1366160601 337810 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope, sorry < 1366160614 683443 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just have a badly-calibrated sensor < 1366160618 870800 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'll have to trust Bike < 1366160625 876130 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION 's girlfriend was inducted into an honor society
< 1366160630 738480 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a good one? < 1366160634 242106 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just looked through my old mail, and I was invited last year < 1366160668 294373 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sigma Beta Delta, is that good? < 1366160729 648336 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't actually know how to judge honor socieites. < 1366160746 555830 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: The main thing is whether you know the Greek letters here, I think. < 1366160761 507242 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :As in, would recognize them, be able to write them. < 1366160775 95528 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, are those greek letter designations globally unique at all? < 1366160801 987615 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :galactically unique < 1366160818 58927 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION vanishes
< 1366160824 862655 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(sigma beta delta doesn't have a wikipedia page, fwiw) < 1366160837 506741 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I think they usually are. I mean there's like 27³ of them or w/e. < 1366160904 731999 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Honor society has the one line "Sigma Beta Delta, ΣΒΔ (business programs at schools that have regional accreditation, but not specialized accreditation in business)" < 1366161050 612969 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1366161331 186567 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: the wikipedia article on cognitive linguistics is weird. < 1366161388 434839 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1366161433 791516 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1366161457 896120 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is weird about it? < 1366161571 792605 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :most of it. < 1366161653 915003 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I joined #esoteric because I liked weird things, could you point out the especially weird pats of the article so I can appreciate them? < 1366161791 322572 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i dunno < 1366161806 832571 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a "cognitive" theory that's pretty anti-cognitivist from what i can tell < 1366161816 840633 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the Controversy section is just vague < 1366161931 506318 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is pretty full of jargon < 1366162099 873618 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-42.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1366162103 290688 :Bike_!~Glossina@71-34-76-227.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1366162118 927043 :Bike_!~Glossina@71-34-76-227.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1366162480 529075 :Bike_!~Glossina@71-34-77-190.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1366162635 490397 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter JOIN :#esoteric < 1366164137 105599 :Bike_!~Glossina@71-34-77-190.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1366164167 536282 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-77-190.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1366164623 578135 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-77-190.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1366164726 450324 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-73-249.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1366166192 985974 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1366166471 276131 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1366166703 981811 :matteu!~matteu@173-21-241-180.client.mchsi.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1366167860 92101 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-73-249.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1366167866 561519 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-239-36.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1366167930 604212 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1366167937 134556 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :507) Yeah, Bashir, just sit there drinking, rather than diagnosing the carpenter mauled in that tragic bonobo accident. < 1366167942 264681 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1366167948 786501 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :143) it's not obvious from quantum mechanics that you can destroy a universe arbitrarily. < 1366167953 250836 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1366167955 339208 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :788) Sleep on the ceiling next Sunday. < 1366167968 830656 :matteu!~matteu@173-21-241-180.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bashir? As in DS9 Bashir? < 1366167985 763741 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: IT TAKES ADDITIONAL GENIUS < 1366167997 462379 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-239-36.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't Bashir like the most common Arabic name < 1366168004 549457 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-239-36.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, besides Mohammad probably < 1366168062 955012 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ali and achmed come to mind a lot earlier < 1366168109 623139 :matteu!~matteu@173-21-241-180.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. Ok. < 1366168203 664516 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that this tells anything about wtf phantom_hoover was referring < 1366168218 799096 :matteu!~matteu@173-21-241-180.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well < 1366168226 746025 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i somehow doubt DS9 had any bonobo accidents. < 1366168227 876964 :matteu!~matteu@173-21-241-180.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :DS9 Bashir was a medical professional. < 1366168250 487012 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :matteu: did he have a drinking problem? < 1366168281 743044 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog addquote.*bashir < 1366168291 430224 :matteu!~matteu@173-21-241-180.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm too tired to start meandering through memory alpha < 1366168314 851211 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1366168320 978685 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog addquote.*bashir < 1366168358 108113 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1366168376 258722 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs yeah, bashir < 1366168416 13356 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1366168420 337829 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :WAT < 1366168451 625114 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 508 < 1366168454 666998 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :508) monqy: help how do I use lambdabot to send messages to people. [...around half an hour later...] @messages quicksilver said 1y 2m 18d 19h 54m 29s ago: you use @tell < 1366168461 425747 :matteu!~matteu@173-21-241-180.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :capital B? < 1366168471 839773 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :matteu: it's case insensitive < 1366168481 958124 :matteu!~matteu@173-21-241-180.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're insensitive < 1366168485 709297 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it should be < 1366168500 975860 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs monqy: help how do I use lambdabot < 1366168525 100138 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.21140 < 1366168616 731645 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :22:07:02: `addquote Yeah, Bashir, just sit there drinking, rather than diagnosing the carpenter mauled in that tragic bonobo accident. < 1366168630 961726 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo: YOU ARE DISAPPOINTING ME < 1366168677 411047 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog addquote .*bashir < 1366168684 814654 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2011-08-26.txt:22:07:02: `addquote Yeah, Bashir, just sit there drinking, rather than diagnosing the carpenter mauled in that tragic bonobo accident. < 1366168702 877823 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastalogs < 1366168703 895480 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: pastalogs: not found < 1366168742 111715 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs yeah, bashir < 1366168755 997447 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.1592 < 1366168781 445599 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :he must have said it somewhere else < 1366168820 399282 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :22:07:12: DS9 is a weird show. < 1366168837 852118 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :matteu: ok that comment just after the `addquote at least implies it's probably DS9 < 1366168866 420704 :matteu!~matteu@173-21-241-180.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay DS9 < 1366168874 97830 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run pastaquote #For kmc < 1366168875 678985 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :988) I think pastaquote should just quote me < 1366169450 851899 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote Sgeo < 1366169452 219359 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :52) What else is there to vim besides editing commands? \ 66) Where's the link to the log? THERE'S NO LOG. YOUR REQUEST IS SUSPICIOUS AND HAS BEEN LOGGED. \ 98) And... WTF is it doing. :( Is it sexing? \ 107) what's the data of? [...] Locations in a now deceased game called Mutat < 1366170652 928101 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :void *call_cc(void *(*)(void (*)(void *) __attribute__((noreturn)))); < 1366170686 814473 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-239-36.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope. < 1366170687 335861 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1366170709 481094 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-239-36.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ask doesthiswork am i on candid camera < 1366170711 986453 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-239-36.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask doesthiswork am i on candid camera < 1366170712 488519 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1366170733 46285 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :declare call_cc as function (pointer to function (pointer to function (pointer to void) returning void) returning pointer to void) returning pointer to void < 1366170734 104092 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :smile :) < 1366170735 583568 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1366170771 634835 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65-183-140-119-dhcp.burlingtontelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1366170801 109781 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-239-36.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc i said "nope.: < 1366170813 979836 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you've seen it; you can't un-see it. < 1366170848 64108 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-239-36.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if i call/cc'd to before i saw it. what then < 1366170856 364131 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-239-36.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my continuations are undelimited motherfucker < 1366170901 716386 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: have you seen the film Primer? < 1366170915 933644 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have a time machine that works like call/cc < 1366170962 133696 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-239-36.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but does it have dynamic-wind < 1366171017 208400 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :he that troubleth his own house shall inherit the dynamic-wind < 1366171058 292666 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It turns out the solution to the medical records problem is not that no one has thought of using Redis" < 1366171108 943005 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist < 1366171110 709202 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly < 1366171176 844618 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am also writing some prestige class for Dungeons&Dragons game; some are corresponding to deities (some are available for two deities), so this one is Gxxyuxihuvxi < 1366171183 59111 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ifMUD is not working very well today. < 1366171224 867934 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh list < 1366171393 638145 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a well-known deity < 1366171396 358313 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or an ephemeral deity < 1366171450 642082 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls bin/*list* < 1366171452 112011 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/emptylist \ bin/instalist \ bin/list \ bin/listen \ bin/makelist \ bin/mlist \ bin/olist \ bin/pbflist \ bin/pbflistdeluxe \ bin/slist \ bin/smlist \ bin/testlist < 1366171498 568785 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is a lesser-known deity; I have a list of a few < 1366171531 358151 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now are you going to add alist and xlist and zlist and jlist and klist and 1list and 2list as well? < 1366171557 679759 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`freelist < 1366171559 18127 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: freelist: not found < 1366171568 583200 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders what a Free [] is, if anything
< 1366171592 132391 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-239-36.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm pretty sure there should be a list for updates to the list system < 1366171608 790823 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: It is a kind of data structure; the type (Free []) ican be a single item or a list of (Free []) so it is a kind of tree structure < 1366171661 455048 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wasn't particularly thinking about actually thinking about this stuff
< 1366171745 58093 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then why do you like to ask such question? < 1366171792 269910 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because it occured to me after `freelist < 1366171805 501662 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although actually I did both in the wrong channel at first < 1366171839 45703 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I may be slightly sleep deprived < 1366171856 562572 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :use after `freelist < 1366171879 786568 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :has anyone written a git-like version control system in shell script yet < 1366171883 940180 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it should be pretty easy < 1366172022 877078 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-239-36.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i saw a wiki in shell once. < 1366172173 141391 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you think TeX is the most portable programming language? I think it probably is, even in past and future too. < 1366172240 255012 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-239-36.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :C programs probably run on more systems. < 1366172268 475581 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-239-36.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://25.media.tumblr.com/b600481f5deb4a180bbad722f881b40f/tumblr_mj9s28psjK1qlh9eeo2_r1_1280.jpg has anyone noticed that polish movie posters are kind of fucked up sometimes < 1366172274 245397 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-239-36.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :even when it's not a polish film? < 1366172281 372131 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, although things in C may differ by different computers. < 1366172451 35997 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such as, in C, size of numbers might differ, some things about pointers might differ, it might differ ASCII/EBCDIC, floating point might be different, and other things too. < 1366172620 532006 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :TeX is the same on all computers, except for the amount of memory available, which still has no effect on working files. < 1366172784 251450 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does "ephemeral deity" mean? < 1366172835 258267 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-239-36.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A deity that doesn't last long? < 1366174346 100577 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65-183-140-119-dhcp.burlingtontelecom.net QUIT :Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com < 1366174425 538612 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-179-240.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1366174672 107206 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you get when you tracert ifmud.port4000.com? I cannot connect to that server at all (the service is on port 4000). < 1366174825 30505 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-239-36.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's reachable here. < 1366174853 514258 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-239-36.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ping: 10 packets transmitted, 10 received, 0% packet loss, time 9014ms < 1366174872 172347 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is strange; it doesn't work here! Do you know why that is? < 1366174891 826354 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It worked earlier today! < 1366174900 885925 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-239-36.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not a clue. < 1366174904 298913 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-239-36.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about ifmud.ziz.org? < 1366174927 957541 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has the same IP address. < 1366174976 506389 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a generic proxy service which might be used? < 1366175776 390842 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1366176012 206076 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf at spam < 1366176017 303941 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :TEST QUESTION:....GOOD < 1366176017 498340 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ANSWER: ........BLESS < 1366176032 942792 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does that even mean as part of payment information? < 1366176065 639599 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-239-36.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you tried praying? < 1366176089 358734 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :'Thank you for your question. In certain countries, you may be required to provide the answer to a test question when picking up your Quick Cash payment. This is an additional step to ensure that your payment is transferred securely. You can find this information by examining your Statement of Earnings found under the 'details' link of the 'Payment issued' line on your Payments page. The answer to the test question will always be the 10-digit < 1366176089 592812 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : number labeled 'Customer ID' found in the top right corner of your Statement of Earnings.' < 1366176121 201814 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :BLESS is officially a 10-digit number. < 1366176644 474207 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Thanks! < 1366176974 509257 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yw < 1366177130 409180 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that some kind of phishing to get your customer id? < 1366177144 251732 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds like it's talking about a particular company's QuickCash payments. < 1366177166 704227 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found a working HTTP CONNECT type proxy to connect there. < 1366177171 190157 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :A company that uses the "Customer ID" as the answer to the question. < 1366177233 94860 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would think in general it's just an arbitrary challenge/response pair. < 1366177329 350539 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, you were quoting from Google's AdSense help page. < 1366177362 170455 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(So there's no reason for BLESS to be a 10-digit number.) < 1366177381 214532 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, the title "Hacking Secret Ciphers with Python" makes it sound like a really dumb book < 1366177425 718546 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com < 1366177735 37733 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, my latest Western Union spam uses either TODAY/NOW or When/Now as the Q/A pair. < 1366177803 981575 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :TODAY/NOW for the $7000 they're going to send (for reals), just as soon as I first send $100 to them with the When/Now quetion. < 1366177852 220568 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, $7000 per day, for a total of $1.8 million. < 1366177855 960888 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't understand any of that, maybe I don't read enough spam < 1366177993 584716 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"-- but they said that you have to send $165dollar for your transfer permit --" "HERE IS THE INFORMATION FOR YOU TO SEND THE MONEY -- Amount $100 dollar". < 1366178022 994604 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But is it $165 or $100! This is all too confusing! There goes my millions, I give up. < 1366178320 788147 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: xkcd today is about a security property that i'm always talking about < 1366178332 948809 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so from now on, whenever i talk about it, i'm making an, 'xkcd reference' < 1366178341 284542 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't it great < 1366178352 765218 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What card games can you play? < 1366178355 582986 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :one day xkcd will talk about how xkcd does things and then they become 'xkcd references' < 1366178359 875350 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then where will kmc be < 1366178371 255710 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-239-36.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc will have been xkcd all along. < 1366178379 893177 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :gasp < 1366178404 443905 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am jack's smirking revenge < 1366178416 693202 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :[obligatory xkcd](http://xkcd.com/1200/) < 1366178421 391294 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know it's coming < 1366178446 200363 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-239-36.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's pretty great how obligatory links are never obligated, by anybody < 1366178487 457313 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: solitaire < 1366178513 100671 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: eventually -everything- will become an xkcd reference, as xkcd will expand to fill all possible statements < 1366178515 679022 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: i can play Who Can Throw A Card The Furthest < 1366178545 881852 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I suppose it doesn't matter what kinds of cards you use, then < 1366178556 605020 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: how far can you throw? < 1366178565 810609 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: don't know < 1366178573 774959 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: well the size and shape and material properties do matter < 1366178626 276294 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION -> sleep
< 1366178626 976384 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'night < 1366178627 504776 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: ♞ < 1366178677 88166 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :horse < 1366178688 185799 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that an xkcd reference < 1366178740 272981 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does it matter if you're making an xkcd reference, isn't the point that they learn about the stupidity of the world, not that they learn how great you are at noticing it < 1366178757 579386 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :or are xkcd references embarrassing even to good xkcd comics < 1366178777 315954 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's a comic and shouldn't be funny and that comic isn't funny so it fails or something < 1366178782 912201 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :*should < 1366178835 293924 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :my sentences are too complicated for me < 1366178846 110418 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i will not listen to myself anymore < 1366178847 396335 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye < 1366178876 105532 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-239-36.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok. < 1366178961 726901 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: hello Bike < 1366178967 899664 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you want a hug < 1366178976 550762 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hugs Bike
< 1366178985 338531 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-239-36.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hugs back
< 1366178988 635456 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-239-36.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you all alive? < 1366179011 451850 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow Fiora < 1366179021 894978 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't believe you just did that < 1366179058 646539 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :w-what >_< < 1366179089 430150 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was all, like, "hey Bike want a hug" and stuff < 1366179094 450496 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you just ran in < 1366179125 32001 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-239-36.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hugtheftu < 1366179137 410641 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-239-36.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you gotta act fast shachaf < 1366179137 911449 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's okay i forgive you < 1366179143 473388 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-239-36.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not just giving these things away they're precious < 1366179197 830086 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, dude, i didn't ask for a hug i offered one < 1366179203 563620 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well actually i just asked if you want one < 1366179210 575635 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok let's forget about the whole deal < 1366179212 929220 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION steals a hug from Bike
< 1366179214 994963 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-239-36.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK. < 1366179216 712435 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-239-36.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Agh fuck < 1366179237 521566 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike I hope you don't dislike my hugs < 1366179256 213788 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-239-36.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1366179287 938121 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i play "Fiora's self-doubt" < 1366179312 584484 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-239-36.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's no way to win. < 1366179326 117929 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok people < 1366179328 782532 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a question < 1366179333 635884 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a serious, #esoteric question < 1366179336 83242 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-239-36.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love those. < 1366179356 406584 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: no it's not a normal #esoteric person it's augur < 1366179363 273073 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-239-36.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like augurs. < 1366179366 609002 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :he just tries to waste your time with linguistics questions and other augur nonsense < 1366179379 404246 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im writing a paper. in it i have a quote that includes a citation. should i include an entry in my own bibliography for that citation or not? < 1366179401 746910 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mi malŝat' lingvantojn! < 1366179404 500212 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-239-36.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1366179409 283766 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. Tricky. < 1366179426 248399 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also he oklofok < 1366179436 96508 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey* < 1366179436 763241 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1366179439 827306 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: wait you don't like them or you do <_> < 1366179449 988153 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-239-36.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't dislike them, I said. < 1366179484 452592 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: Bike likes your hugs don't worry ... ..... < 1366179497 647917 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :srsly guise < 1366179510 160115 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh! < 1366179511 90835 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :except by hugs i mean the piece of text that goes "* Fiora hugs Bike" < 1366179516 97542 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :not actual hugs < 1366179518 674468 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fiora... < 1366179519 322978 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1366179520 492245 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you can't give those on the internet < 1366179521 522347 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fiora < 1366179524 730795 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what :< < 1366179546 844710 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha! < 1366179557 867724 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fiora is the name of one of the main characters from max headroom < 1366179569 34458 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it were spoken by an urban yoof < 1366179581 604232 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's also the name of a fire emblem character >_< < 1366179677 680642 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1366179681 573608 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im just making connections < 1366179732 390603 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: have you considered going away < 1366179761 964009 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: have you considered comiting suicide? < 1366179774 74778 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would certainly improve your attitude. < 1366179775 824758 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :;-; < 1366179787 167813 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-239-36.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not cool, bro. < 1366179804 497420 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You've suggested it to me before. < 1366179806 440917 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh well. < 1366179808 351739 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PART :#esoteric < 1366179826 374087 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf has an irrational dislike for me and harasses me any time we're in the same channel together for no apparent reason. < 1366179844 205477 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-239-36.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't tell people to kill themselves, ever. < 1366179852 803363 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no clue why. one day he just decided to start badmouthing me. < 1366179889 734646 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The hell. < 1366179913 573148 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :At first I thought it was just a joke, but um. what/ < 1366179924 567431 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've always liked having you around. < 1366179938 285702 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like being around. < 1366179946 477572 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :um. maybe have you like. considered not telling people to kill themselves < 1366179948 506980 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont, however, like being harassed by shitbags like shachaf for no reason. < 1366179985 196684 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont even have to be talking and he'll start bad mouthing me for being a linguist < 1366180009 992178 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and not in the tongue in cheek kind of way but in the malicious "a linguist fucked my girlfriend" kind of way. < 1366180106 803669 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats all i get from that asshole, and we dont even ever talk. so fuck him. < 1366180165 259975 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you considered /ignore? < 1366180226 148328 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would just let him badmouth me unimpinged. < 1366180281 485014 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unimpinged? unimpeded? whatever work i intended, anyway. < 1366180308 437748 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION raises a finger to Youtube
< 1366180324 361291 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont know what that even means :( < 1366180347 337299 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fucking Youtube. Keeps dropping connection on me. < 1366180368 832910 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1366180382 247721 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Making watching videos an interesting experience wherein I get about a minute of video. < 1366180977 703554 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: I'm getting the feeling that it's not for no reason < 1366180998 670830 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dont confuse cause and effect, doesthiswork. < 1366181214 586489 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :iterated interactions don't have cause and effect they have nash equilibriums < 1366181285 542932 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :only in games. < 1366181325 535307 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so whats new in esoland anyway < 1366181334 711149 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :any interesting new esolangs of note? < 1366181358 267347 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1366181454 81533 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I've been working on a Chip8 emulator today. < 1366182556 864589 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a kind of (symbolic) logic which describes well-founded Z-machine object trees? < 1366182675 352977 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Each object can have or not have a parent, sibling, and child. "Well-founded" means the following: (a) An object with a sibling also has a parent. (b) An object is the parent of exactly those objects in the sibling list of its child. (c) Each object can be given a level n, such that parentless objects have level 0 and all children of a level n object have level n+1.) < 1366182760 430844 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Note that the "child" the object has is the first child and then the sibling means the next one after that. The sibling should not loop.) < 1366183173 143727 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: Why not Chip16? Too complicated? < 1366183342 457996 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: Totally unrelated to that reddit thread actually. Friend of mine and I were discussing the Chip8 in particular. < 1366183367 137771 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :What reddit thread? < 1366183401 957635 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The one about Chip16. < 1366183421 749013 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Besides, if I wanted to emulate a higher-power nicer system, well, I've already done that. < 1366183427 270319 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cmako is pretty sweet. < 1366183481 855921 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter PRIVMSG #esoteric :RogerTheGreat already implemented the mako vm for his chip8 < 1366183556 522135 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vice versa. < 1366183558 228796 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just want a good Chip16 emulator that runs on linux =P < 1366183567 266999 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I never saw that reddit thread < 1366183568 837700 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, yeah, that's what started me on it. < 1366183712 803822 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is an ngemu thread where it originated < 1366183911 521549 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it is written in SDL then it can easily be ported to other operating systems. < 1366184172 233907 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: What is? < 1366184175 267249 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1366184211 994766 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: Well, nearly anything in SDL. < 1366184251 531364 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think Chip16 has an SDL port < 1366184255 703541 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or a C compiler that targets it < 1366184304 937130 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, anything with SDL, anyways; I don't know what all of them are. < 1366184426 245972 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mako is a programming language + VM and has multiple implementations < 1366184436 293486 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure there is at least one that uses SDL < 1366184510 825630 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.112 JOIN :#esoteric < 1366184639 918411 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1366184943 312981 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.115.210.249 PART :#esoteric < 1366185018 202954 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1366185031 630451 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1366185766 85088 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1366185803 36137 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 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:fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :From: IEEE Spectrum Tech Alert Subject: Robots Are Not Killing Jobs, Says a Roboticist < 1366201929 499886 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure that's an entirely unbiased source. < 1366201946 577866 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose it's better than "Robots Are Not Killing Jobs, Says a Robot". < 1366201966 378780 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :("We're not killing jobs, we're killing people" was the actual quote.) < 1366201977 214941 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :ROBOTS KILLED JOBS < 1366202016 881795 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter PRIVMSG #esoteric :should I say "oh, poor jobs" ? < 1366202047 213551 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think Jobs was very poor. < 1366202050 818157 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I read that subject line as "our robots still suck" < 1366202101 904713 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Other highlights from the same mailing: LASER FUSION'S BRIGHTEST HOPE well I suppose that'd be pretty bright yes < 1366202129 871053 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"WOULD THE MOB REALLY BREAK YOUR VIRTUAL KNEECAPS WITH COUNTERFEIT CHIPS?" < 1366202146 973970 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppse they have a specifically hired headline-writer there. < 1366202159 595275 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1366202171 121898 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bumped on that article too, a couple of days ago < 1366202204 12322 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter PRIVMSG #esoteric :the site it was on has two more sites that each prompt you to look at the others < 1366202538 297719 :matteu!~matteu@173-21-241-180.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Robots are Not Killing Jobs, He's Already Dead, Says a Roboticist < 1366202574 889197 :matteu!~matteu@173-21-241-180.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Robots are Not Killing Jobs, I Just Don't Feel Like Getting One, Says a Hobbyist Roboticist < 1366202616 879690 :matteu!~matteu@173-21-241-180.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Beep boop bee-boop beep, Says a Robot < 1366202632 667573 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Robots are Not Killing Jobs, Says a Terrified Roboticist Working in a Lab Full of Killer Robots < 1366202645 920410 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1366202668 135865 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1366202860 187339 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1366202877 607055 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1366203418 754599 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.96 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1366203592 192137 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter PRIVMSG #esoteric :Robots are Not Killing Jobs, says an abducted-by-robots Roboticist, who's been missing for three years < 1366204020 113750 :Joop!52973712@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.151.55.18 JOIN :#esoteric < 1366204038 459594 :Joop!52973712@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.151.55.18 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1366204088 559780 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Robots are Not Killing Joops, Says a Roboticist < 1366204120 560379 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1366204150 690594 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'll let someone else do a `welcome there.) < 1366204219 543408 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :`WeLcOmE < 1366204220 989151 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1366204221 694148 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :WeLcOmE To tHe iNtErNaTiOnAl hUb fOr eSoTeRiC PrOgRaMmInG LaNgUaGe dEsIgN AnD DePlOyMeNt! FoR MoRe iNfOrMaTiOn, ChEcK OuT OuR WiKi: HtTp://eSoLaNgS.OrG/WiKi/mAiN_PaGe. (fOr tHe oThEr kInD Of eSoTeRiCa, TrY #eSoTeRiC On iRc.dAl.nEt.) < 1366204265 780350 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :trout < 1366204420 661995 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest, rude < 1366204424 117068 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome Joop < 1366204426 538854 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​02Joop14: Welcome to 12the interna11tional hub 12for esoteric programm06ing langu06age02 de14sign and deploym13ent! For more inf09o09rmat10ion, check out o03u05r wiki: ht09tp://esolangs.org/wiki/Mai04n_10Pag04e. (For th07e other kind of eso06ter13i02ca,08 tr04y #esote04ric on irc.da05l13.net.11) < 1366204461 188510 :Joop!52973712@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.151.55.18 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can nesting in all its forms be eliminated? < 1366204495 735549 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run welcome there | rainwords < 1366204498 157142 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​13there: 6Welcome 4to 7the 8international 9hub 2for 13esoteric 6programming 4language 7design 8and 9deployment! 2For 13more 6information, 4check 7out 8our 9wiki: 2http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. 13(For 6the 4other 7kind 8of 9esoterica, 2try 13#esoteric 6on 4irc.dal.net.) < 1366204524 188582 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't know about relcome < 1366204703 494494 :Joop!52973712@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.151.55.18 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if in calculus nesting can be eliminated by the model of reverse polish notation, can it be eliminated in program flow too? < 1366204893 382413 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :But nesting in calculus isn't really the same thing? < 1366204930 45837 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless you're not talking about things like (a + b * (c + d)) < 1366204966 598594 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which would be equivalent to a b c d + * + < 1366204968 447383 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1366205043 914438 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's clearly not the same thing as for (...) (for(...) ...) < 1366205177 25653 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure what nesting in program flow means, here. But take for example some sort of cellular automaton, I don't know what would be especially "nested" there, and they can compute the usual stuff. < 1366205208 988190 :Joop!52973712@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.151.55.18 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I'm not exactly sure what I want to bring up :) < 1366205288 383959 :Joop!52973712@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.151.55.18 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmm I'm wondering if designing a 'guess the number' program < 1366205332 666853 :Joop!52973712@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.151.55.18 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the core guessing will be in a loop that exists till the right number is guessed < 1366205373 462722 :Joop!52973712@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.151.55.18 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but outside that loop will be a loop that will ask if you want to play again Y/N < 1366205490 669761 :Joop!52973712@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.151.55.18 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the guessing part of the program is nested within the 'ask again' part < 1366205560 19679 :matteu!~matteu@173-21-241-180.client.mchsi.com PART :#esoteric < 1366205722 789132 :Joop!52973712@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.151.55.18 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can I put this 'ask again' on a stack for later use? Are there limitations with such model, do you need multiple stacks with complex programs? < 1366205750 239863 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would you want to do that? < 1366205758 975955 :Joop!52973712@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.151.55.18 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just thinking out loud here, sorry < 1366205796 991610 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could make the program execute itself again (recursion) < 1366205823 222270 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the language you are using doesn't support nested loops < 1366205839 982439 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :(although it might not support recursion either) < 1366205981 331134 :FreeFull!~freefull@5.68.117.93 JOIN :#esoteric < 1366205981 527222 :FreeFull!~freefull@5.68.117.93 QUIT :Changing host < 1366205981 527368 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1366206039 19728 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good morning humans! just to be sure that all of us are proper first-class meatbags, please solve one of these: http://crapcha.com/ < 1366206100 331785 :Joop!52973712@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.151.55.18 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I work on a little esolang that has commands for duplicating next element, moving next element to end of program, getting last element of the program, swapping next 2 elements. < 1366206155 77311 :Joop!52973712@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.151.55.18 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elements may contain 1 or more commands < 1366206407 974870 :Joop!52973712@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.151.55.18 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can group commands in an element but there are no other possibility to group < 1366206552 62336 :Joop!52973712@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.151.55.18 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nevermind < 1366206577 746893 :Joop!52973712@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.151.55.18 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1366207386 715388 :PonyPonyPony!codu@codu.org NICK :Gregor < 1366207544 217213 :joop!52973712@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.151.55.18 JOIN :#esoteric < 1366207628 429898 :joop!52973712@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.151.55.18 QUIT :Client Quit < 1366207889 299253 :carado_!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1366207911 932455 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1366208049 860204 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was about to say that it sounds a bit tag-systemy. < 1366208257 432000 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1366208887 788803 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-36.elisa.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1366209042 640376 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey guys i found a good scp: http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-1348 < 1366209105 531315 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1366209144 605055 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1366209260 656350 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: I feel like there's a whole world of possibilities in robozzle that I haven't unraveled yet < 1366209262 152577 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://s15.postimg.org/4p207q28b/Capture_d_e_cran_2013_04_17_a_16_31_24.png < 1366209479 571539 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1366209516 781059 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1366209898 409597 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony JOIN :#esoteric < 1366210383 330176 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1366210751 618128 :bengt_!weed@ya.lolk.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1366210778 193779 :whtspc!52973712@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.151.55.18 JOIN :#esoteric < 1366210788 498343 :whtspc!52973712@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.151.55.18 QUIT :Client Quit < 1366210878 717703 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-148.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that looks like an easy stack exercise < 1366210918 640870 :bengt_!weed@ya.lolk.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1366211115 863136 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tromp_: I figured as well < 1366211139 370820 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/well/much < 1366211168 669255 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-148.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was puzzled by Elevator < 1366211260 670107 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was elevated by puzzle! < 1366211885 676638 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-148.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, got it finally < 1366212311 464533 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: did you solve that already? < 1366212323 257530 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1366212326 119738 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was MAGIC < 1366212339 115183 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounded awfully hard, like there was something about robozzle I didn't know about < 1366212343 868653 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then tromp_ said it was easy < 1366212346 715109 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then it was easy < 1366212378 66660 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-148.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :trying Up then Down now < 1366212378 793257 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :next one was about browsing a tree, using the call stack in a similar manner to know how long the branches were < 1366212401 547674 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :most of the squares are useless right? < 1366212403 755604 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1366212409 863228 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :not most but the ones under you < 1366212419 437621 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is it harder than that < 1366212440 229378 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1366212448 94630 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't use the down part < 1366212463 788008 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: I'm here now http://s21.postimg.org/5fcjavaif/Capture_d_e_cran_2013_04_17_a_17_26_44.png < 1366212491 155333 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got all stars except for those in the upper part of the "2" < 1366212592 80718 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay that's a finite state machine exercise i suppose < 1366212594 125462 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1366212664 720393 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure what you mean by that < 1366212674 49687 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1366212679 467836 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :that you don't need a stack < 1366212716 733551 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, right < 1366213733 366010 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: did you try to guess my nickserv password < 1366213745 261551 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: what < 1366213752 322734 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I did I don't remember it :P < 1366213765 43794 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :o no also shachaf left < 1366213784 90212 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh boy < 1366213797 910197 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :time to read the log < 1366213821 609102 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well it was a while ago < 1366213822 138721 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :03:50 -NickServ(NickServ@services.)- 2 failed logins since last login. < 1366213822 333964 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :03:50 -NickServ(NickServ@services.)- Last failed attempt from: elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott on Mar 07 02:39:22 2013. < 1366213839 869079 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you said something was your password as a joke and i tried to ghost you just in case < 1366213843 604935 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do that a lot < 1366213858 260484 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :alternatively maybe you are actually me < 1366213870 390607 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but no i honestly don't remember < 1366213877 649797 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :next time i will heck your aim more successfully < 1366213896 287251 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:36:53: /msg nickserv ghost elliott < 1366213896 520420 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:37:08: kmc: whats your password < 1366213896 520611 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:38:05: bonghits4jesus < 1366213900 663316 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :log of 2013-03-07 < 1366213905 124766 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mystery solved < 1366213909 308346 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:38:42: i didn't believe you but tried to ghost you nonetheless < 1366213909 503654 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:38:47: basic principles of professionalism < 1366213909 503832 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:38:54: you sure did < 1366213916 491609 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:39:06: did it tell you < 1366213916 685688 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:39:11: you're one of the worst sleepers i've ever seen. < 1366213916 685879 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:39:16: did it say hey kmc im nickserv the snitchand that elliott guy is the WORST < 1366213919 482704 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:39:16: nobody will guess my password because i used the numeral '4' instead of the word 'four' < 1366213922 495921 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:39:24: yes < 1366213968 544774 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :IS MY NAME CLEARED NOW, KMC???? < 1366214453 234529 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think kmc is preparing to sue me as we speak < 1366214654 635825 :GOMADWarrior!~Regis@189.34.44.144 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1366214706 189960 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1366214708 657678 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :very good < 1366214867 511177 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've forgotten my RoboZZle account. :/ :\ < 1366214921 931615 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somewhere within 7 Mio. Years somebody eventually will have the same password as you . < 1366214950 470527 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :if everybody only has one password, of course. < 1366214965 784507 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is no "I'm stupid and lost my password" button in the login form. < 1366214977 932964 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :to be realistic it's probably somewhere within 1 Mio. Years. < 1366215000 873895 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1366215006 196263 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't even know if I'm this "fizzie", but it sounds reasonably possible from the list of solved puzzels. < 1366215038 483065 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1366216005 649113 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-36.elisa.ee QUIT :Quit: Left < 1366216035 63274 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-240-156.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1366216277 596400 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo ' it's that place where they all wear kilts and chase haggises around whilst warding off the loch ness monster with bagpipes' >wisdom/scotland < 1366216279 213221 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: -c: line 0: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `'' \ bash: -c: line 1: syntax error: unexpected end of file < 1366216285 531892 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo " it's that place where they all wear kilts and chase haggises around whilst warding off the loch ness monster with bagpipes" >wisdom/scotland < 1366216289 148221 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1366216302 744678 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-240-156.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1366216469 999452 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-240-156.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1366216551 624862 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-36.elisa.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1366216696 340278 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-240-156.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1366216784 398962 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how could you forget the deep fried mars bars < 1366216795 222310 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the having your oil money stolen by england < 1366216813 202502 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the context was "what americans know about scotland" < 1366216828 269723 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"if they can even remember it's not the same as ireland" < 1366216876 91767 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-240-156.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbjunxHrNp1qzeo2zo1_500.jpg like this? < 1366216938 95896 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1366217070 356420 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Do people really confuse the two? Like is it really not just another "stupid american" joke?) < 1366217217 13302 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"People won't equate you with a natural disaster, ma'am." "Really, Amy? Cause I've met some people. Okay, real people. And I gotta tell ya: a lot of 'em are fucking idiots." < 1366217262 989211 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I confess my geographical knowledge of the US states is quite poor. < 1366217289 101903 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-240-156.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's pretty boring knowledge < 1366217301 918889 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :americans who grow up on the coasts often have a pretty truncated understanding of the middle of the country < 1366217413 135749 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :america is too big to understand IMO < 1366217417 337484 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sort of like graham's number < 1366217480 421425 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1366217488 987173 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've heard some Americans are too big to understand, too. < 1366217544 3683 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-240-156.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm going to assume that's a joke about walt whitman < 1366217779 370455 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :The united US states < 1366217789 247326 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :03:20:37: matteu: ok that comment just after the `addquote at least implies it's probably DS9 < 1366217792 220641 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :03:21:06: yay DS9 < 1366217795 59351 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh neither are here < 1366217803 675399 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was about a dwarf fortress dwarf named after the DS9 bashir < 1366217856 213650 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :04:11:19: has anyone written a git-like version control system in shell script yet < 1366217859 236062 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :04:11:23: i think it should be pretty easy < 1366217861 718439 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: yes, git < 1366217866 523553 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lololololol < 1366218107 812429 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1366218139 621703 :calamari!~calamari@70-6-33-3.pools.spcsdns.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1366218309 944193 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so is there no rule against telling people to commit suicide in here < 1366218313 648107 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :b/c that would be a pretty good rule < 1366218318 661732 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hi i finished logreading) < 1366218349 105779 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-240-156.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the rule that fuck that? because fuck that < 1366218371 733832 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-240-156.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh shachaf is still gone < 1366218429 152679 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the joke is the implication that this channel would have rules) < 1366218534 165895 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell matteu since you probably don't logread, the bashir in question was my doctor in dwarf fortress < 1366218534 497999 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1366218567 702597 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastalog < 1366218569 3181 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: /hackenv/bin/pastalog: Permission denied \ /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: /hackenv/bin/pastalog: cannot execute: Permission denied < 1366218580 328716 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um okay < 1366218586 216919 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls -l bin/pastalog < 1366218587 994623 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-rw-r--r-- 1 5000 0 19 Mar 31 19:00 bin/pastalog < 1366218596 705470 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file bin/pastalog < 1366218598 303862 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/pastalog: ASCII text < 1366218605 954363 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-240-156.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/pastalog < 1366218607 346408 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :exec pastlog pasta < 1366218611 990693 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-240-156.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1366218617 717167 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-240-156.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run chmod +x bin/pastalog < 1366218621 97290 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1366218624 445884 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-240-156.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastalog < 1366218653 940465 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2013-01-23.txt:12:12:59: `pastaquote < 1366218674 839311 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls bin/*pasta* < 1366218676 382000 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/pastalog \ bin/pastaquote < 1366218684 881360 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/pastaquote < 1366218686 10225 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ exec quote "pasta|spaghetti|macaroni|maccheroni|ravioli|fusilli|tortellini|noodle|tagliatelle" < 1366218697 895638 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1366218702 989884 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-240-156.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastaquote < 1366218704 837418 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :988) I think pastaquote should just quote me < 1366218711 495123 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-240-156.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deep. < 1366218727 153818 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i don't suppose you might consider doing something about this. getting a channel regular to leave because you told them to kill themselves is out of line. and this isn't the first time he's done it to shachaf < 1366218879 201147 :itsy!~digital_w@87.115.210.249 JOIN :#esoteric < 1366219268 287574 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-207-229.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1366219429 730361 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-240-156.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1366219918 216836 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-36.elisa.ee QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1366220016 390282 :IAm_thor2!~PircBotX@31.221.70.154 JOIN :#esoteric < 1366220016 624542 :IAm_thor2!~PircBotX@31.221.70.154 PART :#esoteric < 1366220410 410333 :impomatic!~john_metc@87.115.210.249 JOIN :#esoteric < 1366220533 580282 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony JOIN :#esoteric < 1366220536 581515 :IAm_thor2!~PircBotX@31.221.70.154 JOIN :#esoteric < 1366220536 776278 :IAm_thor2!~PircBotX@31.221.70.154 PART :#esoteric < 1366220631 891930 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :12:35:29: "WOULD THE MOB REALLY BREAK YOUR VIRTUAL KNEECAPS WITH COUNTERFEIT CHIPS?" < 1366220636 824840 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw this made me think of chips as in chips chips < 1366220639 675141 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the kind you eat < 1366220642 724104 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not the american kind < 1366220643 77084 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony QUIT :Client Quit < 1366220659 798225 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-207-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION eats american kind
< 1366220661 387393 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-207-229.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1366220719 53117 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :american types of types < 1366220780 693663 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really consider a "why don't you kill yourself" reply per se so out of line, to a (basically) "why don't you shut up" comment that, as far as I can tell, didn't really have any particular reason behind it. Certainly -- based on a quick grep -- there seems to be a well-established channel tradition of telling other people to kill themselves, even if this instance was more malicious than ... < 1366220786 926428 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... usual. < 1366220787 161701 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you like, I can "do something" in the sense that I issue an official proclamation that requests that people stick to civil discussion on interesting matters and avoid personal attacks of any kind. I'm sure that'll take care of everything. < 1366220791 492972 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :In any case, I'm not sure what "doing something" would be, since the only administrative tool around here is the banhammer, and I don't think there's a strong tradition of permanently banning people that don't get along with other people, just outright prolonged harrassment. If even that. < 1366220820 382985 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's kind of like how politics works, I understand? It's all strongly worded notes of protest. < 1366220867 209627 :IAm_thor2!~PircBotX@31.221.70.154 JOIN :#esoteric < 1366220869 40442 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's how diplomacy works, politics not so much < 1366220881 209411 :IAm_thor2!~PircBotX@31.221.70.154 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1366220881 435672 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a “do something” thing could be me filling out the missing pieces of my coördinates/body weight list, and use that to deploy some kind of neurotoxic agent to disrespectful members. < 1366220893 820102 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a neurotoxic substance that makes people behave well, mind you) < 1366220897 259721 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-207-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could you tell people (in an oply way) not to tell people to kill themselves? < 1366220930 793558 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :fizzie > 1366220930 805549 NAMES :#esoteric < 1366220932 437456 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't tell people to kill themselves, it's not cool. < 1366220934 838843 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric -o :fizzie > 1366220934 854299 NAMES :#esoteric < 1366220949 346782 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-207-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, whe it happens ¬_¬ < 1366220964 826807 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But, really, people say "kill yourself" to other people here all the time.) < 1366220981 825380 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-207-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs kill yourself < 1366220989 570820 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-207-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :egh commands < 1366220994 768019 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-207-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls bin/past* < 1366221002 969349 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.9056 < 1366221004 590497 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/pastalog \ bin/pastaquote \ bin/paste \ bin/pastefortunes \ bin/pastekarma \ bin/pastelog \ bin/pastelogs \ bin/pastenquotes \ bin/pastequotes \ bin/pastewisdom \ bin/pastlog < 1366221012 784110 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You did it right. < 1366221025 557656 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i certainly said nothing about permabans... anyway general insults are quite categorically different from telling people to kill themselves, especially when you separate things said in jest, among friends, which is rather different (esp. when a repeat incident) < 1366221029 545711 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shrug < 1366221039 512275 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :logs are one thing, I'm sure I've done it myself; I've done lots of things I'd rather not < 1366221051 651880 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, there's that; normally the tone's quite different, yes. < 1366221107 768273 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not saying anything about what shachaf said himself or whether that deserved any response or wahtever, but I don't think you can say it's on the same level < 1366221132 932691 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"o well" -- kmc, Greek philosopher (2013) < 1366221154 267804 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :κμχ < 1366221169 809046 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kux < 1366221170 28928 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why don't you go perform a felo-de-se < 1366221217 756576 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that something you can eat? < 1366221227 143138 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :χ, not ς? < 1366221247 262416 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a final sigma < 1366221258 438873 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is a final sigma. < 1366221264 729518 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Keegan McAllister and the Final Sigma < 1366221265 721090 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I figured since it comes from "McAllister" it should be the hard sound < 1366221270 840073 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Final things are not allowed in here < 1366221276 385987 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but χ isn't right either < 1366221283 384971 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess just κμκ < 1366221285 581729 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks dumb < 1366221307 543484 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :κoκ < 1366221331 647039 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc's REAL name is actually Kay Emcee < 1366221332 887093 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks culinar. < 1366221351 416541 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :MC kmc < 1366221363 709170 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-207-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :master of ceremonies < 1366221383 424575 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i am Eli Ott < 1366221413 962420 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my first name is of greek origin, but trying to fit boily into that sounds painful. < 1366221417 946972 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :el Liott < 1366221443 163337 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm there is an awful lot of spam on the wiki < 1366221448 652068 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps I should change tack and make fizzie an admin instead. < 1366221451 942813 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's El Liot the Third. < 1366221530 147410 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :7nick φιζζιε < 1366221538 290422 :IAm_thor2!~PircBotX@31.221.70.154 JOIN :#esoteric < 1366221544 693448 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tnick??? < 1366221546 761695 :IAm_thor2!~PircBotX@31.221.70.154 PART :#esoteric < 1366221583 786886 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. Shift-7 on a finnish keyboard. < 1366221591 693116 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no shift-7 is & < 1366221595 465118 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how wrong can you possibly be < 1366221607 651162 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait what is that IAm_thor2 thing. presumably a bot from the hostname < 1366221637 262630 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know that Shift-7 is &, my keyboard knows that Shift-7 is &, but why fizzie's tnick? < 1366221663 747465 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The 7foo "oh look I tried to make an IRC command but typoed, how amusing" "joke" is quite common on Finnish IRCnet channels. < 1366221664 127227 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you do greek letters with the default XCompose setup < 1366221665 978078 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forget < 1366221669 213385 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't think of keyboard layouts. < 1366221685 659546 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :/ is what it's in ours. Ours is kind of strange. < 1366221716 92059 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: i don't know of a way < 1366221726 965684 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Typically it's used as "7msg someone something salacious". < 1366221731 392741 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :note to self, get a better xcompose setup < 1366221789 918217 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :7msg fizzie something salacious < 1366221794 744684 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ΞΚομποσε < 1366221811 191045 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :č°Ḿṕ°ßə < 1366221822 338793 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :č°Ḿṕ°ßə ĸəÿ < 1366221832 855721 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also, is there no Unicode for $\varphi$, I like that much more than $\phi$, which is what φ here looks like. I guess there shouldn't be one, but when has that stopped Unicode?) < 1366221853 805596 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the difference again < 1366221873 759254 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\phi is a circle with a line through it iirc < 1366221877 285298 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :$\phi$ is the one that you get if you just put | on top of a o, while $\varphi$ is the loopy kinda thing. < 1366221892 159632 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have the loopy one < 1366221895 735375 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what font are you using < 1366221896 230327 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :me also < 1366221912 462146 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://detexify.kirelabs.org.s3.amazonaws.com/images/latex/2bf9aa2da649fb42fb7290ca2d861d1c.png <- $\varphi$ < 1366221914 521331 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-139-95.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1366221938 412422 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello Taneb < 1366221939 141477 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://detexify.kirelabs.org.s3.amazonaws.com/images/latex/3336b533e43ccfa8df784d507b171627.png <- $\phi$ < 1366221941 901778 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :go kill yourself < 1366221942 437033 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-139-95.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1366221950 934539 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-139-95.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...that is sudden < 1366221951 703954 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-207-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :-_- < 1366221953 342258 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-139-95.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd rather not < 1366221953 536938 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And this is just the DejaVu Sans Mono, I think. If it has Greek in it. < 1366221976 68675 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Don't tell people to kill themselves, I hear it's not cool. < 1366221983 195215 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm helping!) < 1366221985 374981 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: there must be some maths paper that uses $\phi$ and $\varphi$ to mean different things, which would be enough for Unicode < 1366221985 706791 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, good job < 1366221991 966573 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :could use a bit more conviction though < 1366221998 691959 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cf http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematical_Alphanumeric_Symbols < 1366222003 667327 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Next time I'll drop "I hear". < 1366222020 949963 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should've looked there. < 1366222021 392999 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Great improvement! < 1366222036 613894 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-207-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :-_____- < 1366222063 545731 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike is suffering from rapid chin expansion < 1366222066 782936 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's funny, it's the loopy phi there, even for the normal one. < 1366222071 46014 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i guess that's not really a chin < 1366222079 105290 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION stretches bike face
< 1366222082 560728 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(FOR SCIENCE!) < 1366222092 290300 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-207-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :-_______________________- < 1366222110 136313 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION pushes Bike's eyes open
< 1366222115 919662 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what horrors await < 1366222119 689084 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was some trick in gucharmap that could be used to tell which font it's currently using to render which symbol. < 1366222129 45404 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, (we're testing fizzie's "tell people not to tell people to kill themselves" protocols) < 1366222143 409474 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-139-95.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Makes sense < 1366222145 803466 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"in mathematical contexts, the loopy glyph is preferred, to contrast with U+03D5 GREEK PHI SYMBOL" is what it says about regular Greek small letter phi. < 1366222150 982370 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-139-95.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had a picnic today with my friends < 1366222202 369753 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1366222265 209621 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-207-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :◊_______________________◊ < 1366222285 46226 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help. < 1366222293 484152 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :jesus christ elliott < 1366222299 882040 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apply pressure evenly when jamming eyes open < 1366222330 337027 :impomatic!~john_metc@87.115.210.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi :-) < 1366222368 812793 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote ◊_______________________◊ help. jesus christ elliott apply pressure evenly when jamming eyes open < 1366222372 952280 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :1034) ◊_______________________◊ help. jesus christ elliott apply pressure evenly when jamming eyes open < 1366222398 577378 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-207-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote bike < 1366222400 154276 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :854) Bike: Your client colours people? it would be pretty boring to see everyone as white, i get that enough in real life \ 857) "damn, my port of ghc to php isn't properly taking javascript booleans into account" \ 877) i bet a blog post complaining about ");});});" syntax in JavaScript and comparing it unfavorably t < 1366222510 635861 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: so do all bikes have eyes like that < 1366222529 516215 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-207-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously < 1366222571 682135 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://arxiv.org/abs/1302.1886 < 1366222581 644299 :IAm_thor2!~PircBotX@31.221.70.154 JOIN :#esoteric < 1366222581 840591 :IAm_thor2!~PircBotX@31.221.70.154 PART :#esoteric < 1366222726 470253 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"-- demonstrating that human collective behavior is consistent with the predictions of simplified models." Sounds like psychohistory. < 1366222727 341536 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 877 < 1366222728 809643 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :877) i bet a blog post complaining about ");});});" syntax in JavaScript and comparing it unfavorably to Lisp would get approximately one billion comments on hacker news but at what cost? your very soul, kmc! < 1366222775 776042 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :is hacker news more javascript than lisp? < 1366222846 335456 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also: http://mattbierbaum.github.io/moshpits.js/ < 1366222894 776234 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those semicolons could be dropped, at least < 1366223038 87641 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: have you considered: dude < 1366223047 925364 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-139-95.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have not < 1366223060 513975 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +v :Taneb > 1366223060 538014 NAMES :#esoteric < 1366223063 485347 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :consider deeply. < 1366223089 100835 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-139-95.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1366223094 989754 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-139-95.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've just been voiced, haven't I < 1366223107 972782 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1366223222 656732 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Voice of Taneb That Shines in the Night < 1366223236 797352 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or day. we're having a pretty sunny day now, for a change.) < 1366223345 56974 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the voice of taneb that shines in the day but not quite as much < 1366223415 945719 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Treatise On The Frightening Discovery That Walls & Birds Don't Exist < 1366223638 126536 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a name for the idea that if you don't remember something it hasn't actually happened? < 1366223724 996302 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-207-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :naïvety < 1366224787 564018 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.96 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's called "being dumb" hth < 1366225096 408320 :itsy!~digital_w@87.115.210.249 PART :#esoteric < 1366225319 852346 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1366225416 433735 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1366225669 774263 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1366225709 975777 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1366225989 351351 :calamari!~calamari@70-6-33-3.pools.spcsdns.net QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1366226250 231641 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-207-229.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1366226354 11505 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-207-229.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1366226521 759030 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone know any good workarounds for universe inconsistencies in coq < 1366226596 969480 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-139-95.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Magic < 1366227116 667065 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric -v :Taneb > 1366227116 703913 NAMES :#esoteric < 1366227170 754777 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~dice 6 2 < 1366227171 654754 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 6 --- Sum = 8 < 1366227183 547367 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-139-95.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~dice 10 5 < 1366227183 882283 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :6 8 10 1 9 --- Sum = 34 < 1366227188 540220 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :according to my trusty steed, I must be voiced. < 1366227205 954827 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +v :metasepia > 1366227206 16741 NAMES :#esoteric < 1366227213 407965 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*facepalm* < 1366227218 594474 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really had it coming. < 1366227264 334421 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well. that means only one thing... < 1366227314 793555 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :HARK YE, YOU HEATHENS! BEHAVE YOUR PUNY SELVES OR INCUR THE WRATH OF THE ERROR(1) ON YOUR MISSHAPEN BODY! < 1366227367 436094 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval 2 + 2 < 1366227370 606120 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Error (1): < 1366227387 199766 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-139-95.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~METAR UTAR < 1366227387 394724 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- Possible commands: dice, duck, echo, eval, fortune, metar, ping, yi < 1366227387 820484 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric -v :metasepia > 1366227387 876326 NAMES :#esoteric < 1366227392 451086 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :insufficiently wisdomic. < 1366227422 542300 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, that fell good. thanks elliott. now let's never do that again. < 1366227534 319668 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1366227790 752061 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages? < 1366227790 946199 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, no messages today. < 1366227809 398918 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-139-95.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi ais523, how are you doing? < 1366227817 504440 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I've just woken up < 1366227827 725238 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-139-95.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's... probably not good < 1366227831 214626 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-139-95.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :When did you go to sleep < 1366227836 415064 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@localtime ais523 < 1366227837 532185 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for ais523 is Wed Apr 17 20:43:56 2013 < 1366227845 908021 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: around 10am < 1366227858 645096 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-139-95.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :9 hours sleep, not that bad, then < 1366227867 609115 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-139-95.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're somewhat in the wrong time zone < 1366227875 637074 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-139-95.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But other than that... < 1366227883 942428 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: well I revolve around the world over time < 1366227900 478760 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm in the correct timezone occasionally < 1366227902 489618 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not normally < 1366227922 186225 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-139-95.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't you, like, have a job for which you need to appear respectable for? < 1366228026 801811 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I'm clothed, that means I'm at work, or not changing armour at the moment. < 1366228053 860764 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: he's a grad student < 1366228060 497034 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they don't appear respectable no matter what they do, so why try? < 1366228068 164952 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :~fortune < 1366228068 828073 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Beware of programmers carrying screwdrivers." < 1366228069 22357 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-- Chip Salzenberg < 1366228070 238291 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-139-95.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, makes sense < 1366228080 595302 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-139-95.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :On another note, has the favicon for Wikipedia changed? < 1366228082 396401 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually is ais523 still a grad student < 1366228083 525835 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes < 1366228093 719071 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: let us know when we have to start calling you dr ais523 < 1366228128 872813 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: OK, I will < 1366228145 304605 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm currently in the fourth of four ¾-years < 1366228154 913357 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :due to the PhD being part time < 1366228156 741461 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar essa < 1366228157 634058 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- Station not found! < 1366228160 960516 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar ESSA < 1366228161 601711 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ESSA 171920Z 22012KT CAVOK 09/00 Q1012 R88/09//95 NOSIG < 1366228185 501308 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what are you working on these days? < 1366228206 522632 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: PhD/job-wise? or hobby-wise? < 1366228220 910246 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: both < 1366228255 307073 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: in terms of my PhD, I'm busy trying to write up the categorical and game semantics for ICA-like language rigorously < 1366228267 384041 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and in a way that doesn't annoy category theorists < 1366228275 46089 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1366228283 141124 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's easy to make a rigorous semantics, but hard to do it in a way that won't annoy people < 1366228290 277187 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which is important when you want them to mark your work) < 1366228356 373221 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the teaching, it's the last week of the easter holiday < 1366228357 661390 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: categorical semantics are interesting, I should learn about them sometime < 1366228372 636305 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I want to give the students some advice on how to do exams next week < 1366228389 596173 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in theory they've all done A-levels and the like, but given that they're coming from all over the world and all sorts of education systems < 1366228396 845998 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :some of them might not realise how exams actually work < 1366228422 710111 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and many more might not realise how they work at Birmingham University (things like "always bring proof of ID") < 1366228463 579768 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also talking about things like "if a question's only worth one mark, you're wasting your time if you write an essay in response", and talking about how their degree class is calculated < 1366228473 958554 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in terms of hobbies, I'm mostly working on Pokémon at the moment < 1366228478 154130 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so jsondb, together with just playtesting < 1366228479 617959 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-139-95.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, if I was a student at Birmingham, and brought my Australian passport, and spoke in a crap Aussie accent, would I get kicked out < 1366228494 583989 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: you're technically Australian? < 1366228498 938829 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but we get worse accents than that, anyway < 1366228500 265104 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-139-95.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dual nationality < 1366228512 102727 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-139-95.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I cannot do the accent at all < 1366228523 950572 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fair enough < 1366228548 203718 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: normally just bringing your university ID card is enough, and we actually prefer it that way < 1366228580 226430 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it has a photo on it < 1366228598 620079 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it basically stems from incidents in the past where people paid other people to sit the exams for them < 1366228625 431959 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and given that the invigilators are often centralised rather than come from the department that sets the exam, without ID that might be missed altogether < 1366228664 150720 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: jsondb? < 1366228688 192129 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I decided to write my own database engine in JavaScript, also Perl < 1366228695 874395 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you missed the discussions where I came to that decision < 1366228708 146202 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although they were in #esoteric so you might have logread them < 1366228720 879921 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not heavily optimized, or really meant to be < 1366228749 51379 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's easier to use from a programming point of view than writing SQL because you don't have to write all the joins by hand < 1366229092 428886 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1366229212 973436 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : oh neither are here <-- DOES IT MATTER < 1366229230 893611 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :for most :P < 1366229384 725062 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway it's mostly aimed at keeping the source size small, also at keeping the database size small < 1366229393 360037 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(small-compressed, because the database is, obviously, stored as JSON) < 1366229543 970830 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are category theorists easy to annoy? (They sound like they would be.) < 1366229563 621302 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : I would think in general it's just an arbitrary challenge/response pair. <-- i think the half year i had a US account, it was "what is your mother's maiden name". though maybe i just remember that because it's stereotypical. < 1366229601 89828 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: only up to isomorphism. < 1366229639 719911 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you may _think_ they're annoyed, but it might be a different feeling. < 1366229652 762947 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, voiceless peons. < 1366229656 773194 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :How is #esoteric today? < 1366229656 970468 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :isomorphisms annoy category theorists? < 1366229667 588932 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn peon < 1366229668 851778 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*** "peon" wn "WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)" < 1366229669 46971 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :peon < 1366229669 47068 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : n 1: a laborer who is obliged to do menial work [syn: {drudge}, < 1366229669 47114 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : {peon}, {navvy}, {galley slave}] < 1366229670 932730 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is down from isomorphism? < 1366229671 127427 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-139-95.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, I would tell you, but I seem to be voiceless < 1366229672 976933 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I remember a story (maybe from notalwaysright.com or something) about a guy calling customer service, and them asking the security question, and he'd been drunk or something when setting up the account, so the security question was something like "am I an asshole?", and then he said "um, no", and that was the wrong answer. < 1366229673 942146 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck peon < 1366229675 222978 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Peonage is a type of involuntary servitude of laborers having little control over their employment conditions. < 1366229692 206022 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric -v :Gregor > 1366229692 230384 NAMES :#esoteric < 1366229695 942042 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :I AM NOT A PEON < 1366229696 167253 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :D-8 < 1366229698 528211 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO < 1366229703 513827 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Time to kill myself. < 1366229706 865476 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dear < 1366229711 509390 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +v :Gregor > 1366229711 537629 NAMES :#esoteric < 1366229717 520406 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's not go overboard here. < 1366229717 715296 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hyperventilates.
< 1366229726 464692 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't know I was so close to the edge! < 1366229737 636459 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :one never does. < 1366229744 635921 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the protocol for trying to go kill yourself? < 1366229754 236974 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-139-95.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, "don't" < 1366229754 817255 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :my campaign would like to remark that I had no involvement in this devoicing. < 1366229758 929476 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: /ctcp self terminate < 1366229767 116376 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: NOTED < 1366229778 62662 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe Gregor's logs will implicate oerjan, who is acting as a rogue agent against my popularly-supported op campaign. < 1366229778 983994 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, Time to kill myself. ← imo requires comment < 1366229781 84076 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo he should resign. < 1366229785 842162 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: IMO shut up. < 1366229795 100965 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I couldn't decide if it did. < 1366229805 137594 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose self-edges are edges too. < 1366229829 857312 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :am i going too far < 1366229853 118983 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i'm just speaking up for the anti-peonists (which are people against peonism, _not_ people against people who happen, due to temporary misfortune, to be peons, hth) < 1366229879 868287 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: okay. you should elect a peonist for balance. < 1366229884 783676 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :have I mentioned how much I support the plight of the peons? < 1366229897 295750 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that makes you anti-peonist, doesn't it < 1366229914 649935 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean their plight to appreciate voices < 1366229934 617955 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: :D < 1366229975 743862 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Once there was an adventure game, and it had a "listen" command, and (as far as I know, anyway) the only thing the "listen" command did in any state of the game was to pop up a message saying "I hear voices, do you?" < 1366229999 248366 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ISTR the king's quest games did a lot with their verbs < 1366230022 739170 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: This was a game without a parser, all the commands were in a menu at the bottom. < 1366230032 522413 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm using my mouse with my left hand even tho I'm right-handed for some reason < 1366230042 520895 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: the ctcp doesn't work. :/ < 1366230048 759127 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone told me it will make me stammer, lol < 1366230065 513507 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: It'll make your palms hairy. < 1366230089 374630 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I don't think there was a text version of any king's quest < 1366230091 120544 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: oh no! everything, but not that! < 1366230122 997857 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1366230228 864078 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.city-data.com/forum/attachments/las-vegas/86330d1319291357-hairy-palms-palms.jpg < 1366230243 7156 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Didn't those -- pre-VI, anyway -- use a parsed text input as the interaction method, though? < 1366230249 86708 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe pre-V. Something. < 1366230300 575295 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess those would be before my time < 1366230309 708920 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The game in question was also edutainment, and designed to teach things about puberty, I think. < 1366230320 956521 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also things in general, like "stealing is wrong" and so on. < 1366230331 596126 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And "dogs eat sausage". < 1366230352 914846 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-139-95.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"dogs eat sausage" important lessons about puberty < 1366230357 211014 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And there was something about rusty bedframes in a tree, and maybe a junkyard. < 1366230375 715301 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-139-95.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...didn't something like that happen near the end of the Odyssey? < 1366230376 982615 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I sort of have only very vague recollections about this game, and I've never been able to find it anywhere. < 1366230401 97611 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'd appreciate if someone could find me a copy of MURKKU.) < 1366230403 111185 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you sure it wasn't finnish and hence non-existent < 1366230416 46493 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It most certainly was Finnish. < 1366230418 134644 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, i half-remember that and now i'm starting to think the odyssey was really stupid < 1366230418 776420 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/finnish/canadianish/ < 1366230429 698531 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(In fact, the command was "kuuntele", and the message was "Kuulen ääniä, kuuletko sinäkin?") < 1366230431 696336 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-139-95.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, the Iliad actually had robots < 1366230439 35018 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :MURKKU, a tale of darkness and death? < 1366230455 413424 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe it was cold and loneliness < 1366230475 258431 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: It's a colloquialism for "murrosikäinen", i.e. a person undergoing puberty. < 1366230487 430905 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also for "muurahainen", an ant.) < 1366230516 424221 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :All I've found from the internets are some Finnish forum posts about people reminiscing about old games. < 1366230616 803141 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably it's on a floppy, somewhere in the world. < 1366230650 839309 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably only in finland < 1366230690 620070 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might have the school's Netware server's SCSI drive (over a hundred megabytes!) somewhere, it's also even conceivable that it's on there, but I haven't seen it in a decade. < 1366230740 556068 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many different scsi variants are there, do you have the hardware and cables to read it? < 1366230805 19604 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are quite a few variants. I did have it connected to something, I remember that much. < 1366230826 261762 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Sun/SGI boxes both speak some form of SCSI. < 1366230915 352732 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1366231015 26571 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also a chapter on "strange design decisions": the name-brand PC we had at home, a Compaq Presario CDS633 (486SX/33 + "multimedia"), it had a SCSI CD-ROM drive, and also a variant of SB16 where the same (ISA) card housed an Adaptec SCSI chipset, to which the CD-ROM was hooked. < 1366231047 369097 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the soundcard/cd adapter combo was pretty common < 1366231076 100418 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I think I've mostly seen it with IDE (unless there's a scsi over a similar connector that I confused it with) < 1366231089 860438 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that's more common; and also with some proprietary interfaces. < 1366231101 186339 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SB16 "The Sound Blaster with the SCSI controller (SB 16 SCSI-2) was designed for use with "High End" SCSI based CD-ROM drives." < 1366231112 627418 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, "High End", it was double-speed. < 1366231146 893848 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's, what, 300 kilobytes every second? < 1366231156 914036 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow! < 1366231200 318538 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :In any case, technically you could have used to to connect any SCSI devices. (Except the boot drive, as the above-mentioned article explains.) < 1366231228 915050 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you still need to also hook up the analog sound cable if you wanted to play CD-Audio? < 1366231241 887206 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would think so. < 1366231244 52042 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1366231244 246994 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1366231257 710740 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that always seemed so strange to me < 1366231258 882929 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least for "regular" playback. < 1366231260 357437 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :300kBps is a bit less than CD audio < 1366231278 591353 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess that's why... < 1366231300 555039 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also CD-Audio is missing the error correction of CD-ROM < 1366231312 630376 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: 44100*2*2 -> 176400 bytes per second. < 1366231321 234085 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure why that should matter, but it's different anyway < 1366231353 611933 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The error correction aspect is the reason for the difference between the 1x "150 kBps" data speed, and that audio data rate. < 1366231381 495316 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably more a matter of it being fairly ridiculous to read the digital data at "high" speeds only to shuffle the bytes back to the same card they came from so they can be converted to analog < 1366231383 653075 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :2352 bytes of audio, vs. 2048 bytes of data. < 1366231407 932104 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I think I was thinking about the MB/minute figure for cd audio there < 1366231435 274180 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it would've presumably had a reasonable CPU cost, too. < 1366231450 358413 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whereas you could have CD audio playing in the background quite well. < 1366231461 668905 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :When the drive was doing the D/A and all by itself, that is. < 1366231498 580007 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a number of CD-ROM games where the soundtrack's as audio tracks on the CD, played by the game as required. < 1366231589 693012 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is CD Audio straight up PCM? < 1366231596 506296 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1366231609 187804 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yeah. they call it "Linear PCM" just to be precise < 1366231658 923948 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :linear because it's not curved (like mu-law or something) right? < 1366231659 525773 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :exponential pcm < 1366231683 960167 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: Yes, probably to distinguish from µ-law and A-law. < 1366231708 740886 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of the "new" CD formats (SACD) is some sort of fancy 1-bit resolution, 2.8 MHz sampling rate thing. < 1366231729 555471 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :curved PCM, where instead of straight PCM with 1s and 0s, you have ) and D. < 1366231732 707961 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_Stream_Digital ? < 1366231741 672095 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: Yes. < 1366231775 810138 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :odd < 1366231844 289097 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The delta-sigma thing is a common ADC/DAC design, it's kind of related. < 1366231874 939687 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember the topic being briefly covered on some signal processing course or another. < 1366232030 836419 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oooh. so the actual audio signal is basically an integral over the DTD signal? < 1366232152 139310 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.112 JOIN :#esoteric < 1366232215 545319 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty much. Compared to regular 16-bit linear PCM, you just make the small steps with the impulses. < 1366232344 453586 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Wikipedia "Delta-sigma modulation" article looks (at a glance) quite comprehensive. < 1366232360 600319 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it an integral, or just a low-pass filter? < 1366232374 964600 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even if it needs additional citations for verification. (December 2011) may require cleanup to meet Wikipedia's quality standards. (June 2011) may be too technical for most readers to understand. (June 2011) < 1366232394 847101 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems like an extreme case of oversampling and then low-pass filtering to get greater effective resolution than your sample resolution < 1366232567 794439 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that might be just a point of view? Certainly that's how the DAC side goes, you twiddle a voltage according to the 0s and 1s and then low-pass filter out the high-frequency components. < 1366232578 169708 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.3.9.2 < 1366232656 190354 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's also how the PC speaker works < 1366232657 519324 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-139-95.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Geharrewar looks promising < 1366232660 70643 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but with poor filtering I think < 1366232679 524633 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, so the PC speaker is a 1-bit speaker? < 1366232694 150643 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think so < 1366232697 182783 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The traditional one is, yes. < 1366232703 571256 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course these days it might be an emulation by the on-board sound chipset < 1366232733 337065 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly JOIN :#esoteric < 1366232864 927617 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It also arguably doesn't have an actual "low-pass filter", it's just that it's a physical device and the moving parts obey the laws of physics. < 1366232883 871798 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :can a speaker be 1-bit? I'd say you just only get one bit to control it < 1366232892 40289 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(if you don't rather set a frequency with the right magic bits) < 1366232936 901052 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: A massless ideal point speaker that produces a "1-bit" pressure wave. < 1366232953 669354 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-54-17.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1366232956 5666 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's nothing ideal about the PC speaker :) < 1366232968 748357 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's an approximation. :p < 1366232975 675717 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, wouldn't that, like, make the air in front of it explode? < 1366232977 961829 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or fuse? < 1366232990 660397 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-54-17.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1366232990 855495 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1366232994 971611 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or be compressed below its Schwarzschild radius? < 1366233073 456523 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: It was already a point source, so... I suppose I don't know. Maybe it just makes more air as needed, in order to make the high-pressure parts of the wave. < 1366233137 111612 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the air in front of it momentarily turns into a quark-gluon plasma < 1366233184 279590 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1366233185 803409 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also don't know if SACD really made it anywhere. Certainly I've never seen a player, or a disc. < 1366233201 651294 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: well a real-life speaker attempting to change DC offset (i.e. a step function) sounds like a click < 1366233208 472046 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously it can't do it exactly < 1366233213 360248 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but modern speakers can do quite a good approximation < 1366233233 986391 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there was a DVD-Audio disc somewhere. < 1366233262 807666 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's just "boring" linear PCM, but it goes up to 192 kHz and 24 bits. < 1366233272 897512 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-139-95.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :G'night < 1366233289 889632 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-139-95.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1366233291 601041 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also MLP.) < 1366233402 427163 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :MLP? < 1366233407 509798 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meridian Lossless. < 1366233426 475415 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a proprietary lossless compression format. < 1366233435 912754 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Probably patented? They usually are.) < 1366233444 76207 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: are current digital microphones good enough to capture 24 bits at 192 kHz? < 1366233447 70559 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should read something about lossless audio compression some day < 1366233477 810354 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think they're all relatively similar? like I remember FLAC is basically LPC + rice coding < 1366233481 154854 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linear_predictive_coding < 1366233494 173001 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Blü-ray incorpamorated MLP as a mandatory technology too. < 1366233496 286844 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so like there's all these weird formats like TTA and Monkeys Audio and stuff < 1366233511 897917 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I think they're mostly just variations on LPC with different entropy back-ends? < 1366233516 922546 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it was optional. < 1366233548 389573 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, LucasArts shut down and I didn't even notice. < 1366233557 897540 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, seems that it's optional. (It's what Dolby "TrueHD" uses.) < 1366233597 83202 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, they did didn't they? I saw something about that < 1366233611 141632 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :admittedly they hadn't done anything even remotely interesting for three years. and nothing *really* interesting for 15. < 1366233613 273589 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :to be fair, has lucasarts done anything in the last 5-10 years? < 1366233618 742910 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, exactly < 1366233629 496748 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they did those updated versions of MI1/MI2 < 1366233639 14926 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's about it < 1366233649 724626 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: Wikipedia says Monkey's Audio takes approximately as much resources to decode as it does to encode, which sounds kind of strange. < 1366233660 557510 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was some kind of kickstarter or similar for a new monkey island installment, I think? but unconnected to lucasarts as I understood it < 1366233687 628941 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think they did one of the Star Wars games themselves, too. (I don't know which one.) < 1366233702 952513 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or maybe that was some unrelated game by the same people who presumably left lucasarts before then) < 1366233719 823057 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I think I remember APE was the one that used arithmetic coding? so it ate CPU like crazy < 1366233725 25780 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I noticed, fwiw < 1366233726 391819 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(relative to like, FLAC) < 1366233731 272715 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but basically because the tech news were all discussing it < 1366233746 74378 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the majority opinion was "well, they used to be good, but it's no real loss nowadays" < 1366233767 300810 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you should have told me! now it's too late to, um. i don't know, replay grim fandango or something < 1366233784 878727 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: I'm not sure why everyone just doesn't use FLAC for their lossless needs, honestly. < 1366233786 768953 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually if I tried to replay Grim Fandango, it'd probably last about five minutes before I give up thanks to the interface. < 1366233803 48452 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: can you give a precise definition of what tech news I should inform you of? < 1366233814 583174 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: my feeling is that lossless formats are way easier to make than lossy ones (since you don't have to worry about all the crazy complicated psychoacoustic stuff) < 1366233818 113290 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so they tend to breed < 1366233836 381038 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :open source wise people probably make them for fun, and companies like Dolby make their own so they can sell them (?) < 1366233850 360812 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do think at least Apple Lossless is LPC-based. < 1366233860 373966 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: now I'm wondering: you know how old computer programs used to be stored on audio tape? < 1366233862 390103 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good old linear prediction, the workhorse of everything. < 1366233874 832900 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :back before audio cassettes were separated from data storage? < 1366233879 832384 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :this approach of shutting down after having done nothing notable for years seems somehow better than that whole idea about stopping when you're at your best < 1366233889 607490 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody was alive back then, ais523 < 1366233893 157872 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it seems like it's "not too hard" to beat flac by a tiny little bit, so people like to do that? < 1366233893 366437 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION should learn how arithmetic coding works, one day
< 1366233896 620601 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the world started existing in 1995 < 1366233903 102001 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :would an .mp3 of those work? or would it fail because it filtered out things that are inaudible to humans but matter to the computer? < 1366233916 422668 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably they had to have a bunch of redundancy and error correction? < 1366233920 750151 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :since tape isn't exactly the most reliable of formats < 1366233924 410331 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i used to store TRS-80 programs on my Windows machine, but as uncompressed PCM < 1366233931 429932 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well my first computer was one of the first available-to-the-general-public systems which used floppy drives rather than cassette drives < 1366233932 770822 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: or range coding which is exactly the same but not patented < 1366233932 965593 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha that owns < 1366233939 842436 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :with 5¼ inch floppies < 1366233947 545977 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I think they're quite robust, FWIW. I mean, people sent them over FM radio. < 1366233953 946174 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I think I remember the explanation that had to be pounded into my head in order to actually finally get it <.< < 1366233955 599104 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know that programs were sometimes sent over radio, or pressed onto cheapo records and included in computer magazines < 1366233959 830195 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: oh? < 1366233974 628786 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course the psychoacoustics like masking will be all wrong for data. < 1366233980 587630 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yes but that was analog < 1366233986 426365 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc c64 used a really simple encoding, something like beep=1 and silence=0 < 1366233987 765290 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, so basically like. let's say you have a range of values between 0.0 and 1.0 < 1366233994 964505 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so [0.0,1.0] is our range < 1366234009 363026 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and these data were basically designed to be sent over analog systems, FM radio isn't much different from an audio cassette in that respect < 1366234012 204659 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Anyway, you could go and do an empirical test of it, with just a computer. < 1366234014 209609 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :now let's say we're encoding a bit, and our probability is "60% 1, 40% 0", so we've decided a priori for some reason that 1s are more likely than 0s < 1366234035 901148 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and let's say we decide to code a 1 < 1366234041 211540 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: Poulet! < 1366234043 985448 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1366234049 242498 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yeah except I'd need some sort of converter between lossless audio (probably .wav) and actual program files < 1366234052 905591 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so we split the range, [0,0.6] and [0.6,1.0] < 1366234061 889814 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Those are freely available, though. < 1366234068 972314 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first range is the range that we'd get with a 1, and the second is the range we'd get with a 0. < 1366234074 638804 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :since we're doing a 1, we now have [0,0.6] < 1366234076 302518 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I've used them to write C64 tapes with a cassette deck connected to a soundcard. < 1366234100 160250 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: aha < 1366234104 14491 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, so now we repeat the process. let's say we code a 0. we end up with [0.36,0.6]. < 1366234111 156704 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :now, our range is smaller than 0.5! so we need to renormalize. < 1366234125 507983 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait... ignore that last thing I said <.< I'm dumb. < 1366234141 757546 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1366234153 674463 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we repeat the process until our range no longer crosses 0.5. < 1366234174 884601 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :when it stops crossing 0.5, if the range is /below/ 0.5, we output a "0", otherwise we output a "1", and we expand the range by a factor of 2 to compensate. < 1366234190 661446 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, we're constructing a loooonnnnng continued binary fraction. < 1366234198 658494 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :when our range doesn't cross 0.5, we "know for sure" the next bit of the fraction. < 1366234205 160547 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, okay < 1366234206 153693 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"renormalizing" writes out that bit of the fraction, and expands the range. < 1366234211 389572 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't you end up unlucky with a range getting closer and closer to 0.5? < 1366234233 506326 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll have to think about it more later (kinda distracted atm) < 1366234235 693730 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. never reaching the point where you know if it's a 0 or 1 to write < 1366234237 361956 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it basically makes sense < 1366234238 30877 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you totally can, but it's progressively less likely? and I think arithmetic coders have some thing to work around it < 1366234254 435410 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, what'll end up happening is at some point you'll stop crossing 0.5, and you'll have a looooot of bits to write. < 1366234267 835762 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the thing is typically the range is quantized? so like, it's not an infinite rational decimal < 1366234277 217069 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so eventually at some point you have to round and stop crossing it XD < 1366234283 266247 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: The various fast loaders do optimize the tape encodings, though. < 1366234296 22202 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm really not sure about the details though, I think it depends on the implementation... < 1366234313 701385 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The ROM routines are more about robustness than speed, I think.) < 1366234349 118347 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other important bit I think was that the really important part is how you pick the probabilities, which is where all the interesting stuff comes in < 1366234349 313176 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just fudge the probabilities for symbols to make sure you have a decision within a specific number of bits? < 1366234350 246358 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: hm, thanks for the explanation < 1366234363 198544 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't know how arithmetic coders work and now it mostly makes sense < 1366234381 588284 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :arithmetic coding is basically just a thing that lets you have fractional output bits per input bit (unlike huffman codes, which have to be integer) < 1366234387 151441 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they don't do anything smart on their own kinda < 1366234399 951729 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :just like, with huffman codes, you have to build a huffman tree < 1366234414 823322 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so with arithmetic coding you need some algorithm to pick probabilities. < 1366234459 739151 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so when you're doing more than bits (like say English words), do you just extend the alphabet beyond 0,1, or do you do something fancy where you decide the probability for bits following some other bits or something instead? < 1366234479 200703 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :firstly I think it's possible to do a multi-symbol coder (like, split the range into more than 2 sections) < 1366234487 22663 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I think those are less used because they're a lot more complicated < 1366234506 360587 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah, I think that's what you do? it's called a 'context model', I think < 1366234523 205971 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a super crazy example are the PAQ compressors, they have like, neural net driven context mixing craziness < 1366234531 900799 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1366234537 354929 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's sort of markov chainy < 1366234545 566726 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"context mixing" is basically a thing where you run a bunch of models simultaneously, and weight them based on how good they've been < 1366234546 499285 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :emphasis on the sort of < 1366234550 65690 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :reverse markov chainy?? < 1366234556 604697 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think so...? < 1366234563 168200 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like. continuous markov chains. or something < 1366234563 668536 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :markov cheney < 1366234574 392408 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that's where the "M" in LZMA comes from? < 1366234577 328856 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Come to think of it, and looking at the CBM ROM tape encoding, it could be that you do in fact get a rather messed-up signal, since it's based on lengths of square wave pulses -- with lengths in the 0.35 to 0.67 ms range -- while the lossy encodings generally take frames of like 26 ms and go all subband on that. You should consider actually investigating this. < 1366234611 672337 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yeah, I'm curious < 1366234618 128494 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure the results would be useful, but they'd be interesting < 1366234635 51221 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I always think of "context mixing" as the compression variant of that thing that the netflix prize winners did) < 1366234648 275762 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which was combine like a dozen different teams' algorithms and weight them together <.<) < 1366234660 932410 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I am making the world better by CONFUSING THE SQUARES" -- cpressey < 1366234666 634408 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact < 1366234674 48719 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott TOPIC #esoteric :I am making the world better by CONFUSING THE SQUARES | Underhanded C Contest: http://underhanded.xcott.com/?page_id=5 | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1366234697 628750 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-207-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what squares < 1366234706 102327 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the little ones that make up all the images on your computer < 1366234757 391734 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happens to the images when you confuse the squares? :S < 1366234778 407985 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: That's how people win speech recognition contests, too. You take a dozen different systems and then stick it all into something like ROVER. < 1366234781 892666 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they get all mixed-up < 1366234791 380990 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ROVER? < 1366234802 268609 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: generic obligatory remark mocking speech recognition research, etc. < 1366234815 303274 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: Recognizer Output Voting Error Reduction, it's a semi-clever way of combining results. < 1366234827 653694 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oooh < 1366234889 665889 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-207-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :throw shit at it until it works: TSAIUIW < 1366234898 204224 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: You make a single lattice kind of a network of the joint results and then you mumble mumble rescore mumble voting mumble http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/articleDetails.jsp?arnumber=659110 < 1366234907 382046 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1366235001 603355 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think machine translation folks do the same thing, except with slightly different tricks. < 1366235032 759932 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Their variant is called MEMT, for Multi-Engine Machine Translation. < 1366235052 303523 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not a very good acronym < 1366235129 123307 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Well, it does use METEOR (Metric for Evaluation of Translation with Explicit ORdering) as a component, does that help? < 1366235208 736512 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1366235217 125649 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :programmer acronyms -_- < 1366235220 916386 :carado_!~carado@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:221:63ff:fe9a:3747 JOIN :#esoteric < 1366235234 591595 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey now < 1366235238 293418 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :those are speech recognition researchers < 1366235244 905292 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it hardly counts! < 1366235260 320178 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey now, don't lump those machine translation weirdoes together with us. < 1366235260 822607 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.96 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh my god. reddit... < 1366235261 17139 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :close enough :< < 1366235268 467533 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: haha < 1366235294 441148 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.96 PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone's 100% sure that the odds of rolling a 40 with two d20 dice is < 1366235299 316941 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.96 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/(20!)^2 < 1366235323 248706 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.96 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, for every combination of given permutations each dice is represented by 1/20 but only for non repeating combinations. Therefore, the chances of selecting a single combination from two dice is given by one out of the squared factorial of the possible permutations of a single die, which is 20. < 1366235323 484185 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.96 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Therefore, 1/(20!)2 for all possible outcomes. < 1366235323 484285 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.96 PRIVMSG #esoteric :EDIT: Forgot to mention that this is applicable for n<400 but n>16 for N+1 combinations, statistically speaking. < 1366235336 388653 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SELENE though scientists love doing that too XD < 1366235339 746525 :Baryalay!~Bawar@103.28.133.12 JOIN :#esoteric < 1366235340 708254 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-207-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: what < 1366235345 112584 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a lunar spacecraft. acronym'd. SELENE. <.< < 1366235359 494498 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION likes its nickname, too
< 1366235369 858006 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though I don't think they backcronym'd the nickname. < 1366235370 351981 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-207-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"loony" < 1366235389 374091 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.96 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then someone explains it to him plain and simple, using 3-sided dice as an argument, and... < 1366235389 740401 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-207-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, kaguya, of course < 1366235394 782429 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.96 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"No dude you're making a sampling error. Go back and do it again and you'll see what I'm talking about." < 1366235396 279384 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.96 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's amazing < 1366235400 484230 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACRONYM Acronym Constructed Reversely Osomething Nsomething Ysomething Msomething < 1366235410 477808 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: Maybe it's some kind of a troll. < 1366235423 476022 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: 3-sided dice are hard to build, though < 1366235439 616234 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Yes, you need to take a d6 and label it {1, 2, 3, 1, 2, 3}. < 1366235444 320135 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nisstyre-laptop only overtly opens doors lengthwise? < 1366235454 854997 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck it < 1366235459 354969 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.96 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was gonna go with a d4 labeled {1, 2, 3, "roll again"} < 1366235465 846348 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm never going to top cdrzaszcz < 1366235484 161355 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: A d20 labeled with {1, 2, 3, "roll again", "roll again", ...} so that your games aren't over too soon. < 1366235495 445213 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.96 PRIVMSG #esoteric :extra suspense < 1366235497 680528 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was cdrzaszcz < 1366235514 838302 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1366235525 853389 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking maybe octave's fact() function is the factorial. < 1366235529 227234 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :octave:1> fact(20) < 1366235529 421742 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Richad Stallman's pinky finger is really a USB memory stick. < 1366235534 571310 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think that's 20!. < 1366235542 907944 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.96 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i... < 1366235543 977186 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :amazing < 1366235545 76522 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.96 PRIVMSG #esoteric :octave... < 1366235547 451350 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.96 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1366235553 246071 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fact(sphere) < 1366235554 970868 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it have other facts < 1366235562 298301 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: "Richard Stallman doesn't always run an OS kernel, but when he does he prefers GNU/Hurd. He is... the most interesting hacker in the world. Stay free, my friends." < 1366235563 306376 :Baryalay!~Bawar@103.28.133.12 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1366235563 500757 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-207-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn we don't have shachaf here < 1366235565 369414 :Baryalay!~Bawar@103.28.133.12 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi every body < 1366235568 318343 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.96 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assume fact(1), fact(2) etc all exist < 1366235571 45685 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-207-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for a fun fact < 1366235571 715053 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome Baryalay < 1366235577 981683 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: fact(20) is not always the same fact, it seems. < 1366235580 383834 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​04Baryalay: Welcome03 t09o th02e internation06a02l h11ub for esote09ric p08rogramm05ing 03language d08esign11 13and dep04loyment!11 For more in14formation,11 check ou13t 13our09 wiki03: http09:12//04esol03angs.org/wik08i/Ma06in_Page. (For the 06other k11ind of esoter11ica, try #es02oter11ic 13on irc.dal.net.) < 1366235581 475400 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-207-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i feel so... deprived. < 1366235596 280280 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: Apparently it ignores all arguments. < 1366235598 317619 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.96 PRIVMSG #esoteric :when's the last time anyone used `welcome < 1366235605 273274 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-207-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just now, elliott did it < 1366235610 680790 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1366235611 331222 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.96 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's `relcome < 1366235611 525579 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: rainbow welcome deprives you? < 1366235615 732770 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote ... I was thinking maybe octave's fact() function is the factorial. octave:1> fact(20) Richad Stallman's pinky finger is really a USB memory stick. I don't think that's 20!. < 1366235619 784447 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :1035) ... I was thinking maybe octave's fact() function is the factorial. octave:1> fact(20) Richad Stallman's pinky finger is really a USB memory stick. I don't think that's 20!. < 1366235620 152695 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-207-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelog `welcome < 1366235626 925593 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: http://sprunge.us/IfYW ALL FACTS < 1366235638 772600 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :## Copyright (C) 2007 Stallmanfacts.com < 1366235641 879235 :carado_!~carado@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:221:63ff:fe9a:3747 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1366235646 926228 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : "Richard Stallman doesn't need sudo. I will make him a sandwich anyway."; < 1366235652 45594 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sdjfdklgjdlfkgj < 1366235665 721246 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : "sudo chown rms:gnu ~/base -R"; < 1366235668 812196 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.2331 < 1366235669 410085 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.96 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"\"RMS\" stands for \"RMS Makes Software\""; < 1366235671 182618 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :These are... kind of bad. < 1366235675 797181 :itsy!~digital_w@87.115.210.249 JOIN :#esoteric < 1366235677 144448 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-207-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you think this is worse or better than wolfram < 1366235682 149582 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-207-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think i can decide < 1366235689 514998 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Richard Stallman doesn't need sudo. He'll just eat something off his foot instead of a sandwich." < 1366235696 156095 :Baryalay!~Bawar@103.28.133.12 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks elliott < 1366235742 904640 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Richard Stallman won a Suduku that started with only one number in each line" < 1366235755 724260 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-207-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :snort < 1366235782 496376 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how all of these manage to be so... bad. < 1366235798 158553 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.96 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2011-11-18.txt:22:42:49: oerjan: wtf is `welcome and why does it exist < 1366235808 52280 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-207-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh how the mighty have fallen < 1366235812 760069 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that the first mention? < 1366235824 604831 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.96 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it isn't sadly < 1366235834 911911 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-207-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, that expression is from 2 Samuel. < 1366235835 963407 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.96 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first mention is... `welcome < 1366235844 88067 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-207-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeo's an innovator < 1366235940 33511 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :did someone break pastelog or something < 1366235943 204539 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does it give random lines without dates < 1366235948 165494 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why doesn't it give the message for running out of lines < 1366235961 254072 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-207-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/pastelog < 1366235963 607622 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ cd /var/irclogs/_esoteric \ \ pasterandom() { \ if [ "$1" -gt 150 ]; then \ echo "No." \ exit \ fi \ for i in $(seq "$1"); do \ file=$(shuf -en 1 ????-??-??.txt) \ echo "$file:$(shuf -n 1 $file)" \ done | paste \ } \ \ if [ "$1" ]; then \ if expr "$1" + 0 >/dev/null 2>&1; then \ < 1366235978 473557 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :that list of quotes is really quite bad < 1366236008 995627 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : do you think this is worse or better than wolfram < 1366236009 481978 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : nobody was alive back then, ais523 <-- i recall my cousin played with magnets, and ruined the cassette with all the interesting programs for my dad's oric-1 < 1366236015 456992 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike how can you even ask that < 1366236024 399376 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seem to remember a radio station broadcasting a computer game or something < 1366236025 997164 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :except I was alive? < 1366236030 517440 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it was a cassette with a recording of it < 1366236036 5567 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-207-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: they're both shitty is what i'm saying < 1366236041 844309 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but like I remember the announcer saying and now we are going to broadcast a zx spectrum program < 1366236042 669355 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no bike < 1366236045 45060 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :[KREEEOORRRCSHCJSHJCSJCHS] < 1366236053 647335 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe itw as a great dream < 1366236059 329676 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Did it make you feel awe? < 1366236068 173960 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are de-serifying wolfram's shittiness by comparing it to rms's milquetoast weirdness < 1366236083 721948 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-207-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe elliott is a kid who had his personality overwritten with a ZX Spectrum program < 1366236129 519702 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : since tape isn't exactly the most reliable of formats <-- iirc it had a fast and a slow save/load format, and we never got the fast one to work. < 1366236131 704797 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc stallman is actually an asshole beyond being awkward < 1366236133 912721 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I totally forget how < 1366236144 412289 :itsy!~digital_w@87.115.210.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ++++[>++++<-]>+[>>++>+>+>++<[+++++<]<-]>>>++.>-.<++++..+++.>>--.++<<<.---->.--<[-.>] < 1366236154 66104 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-207-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right he did http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/EMACS_virgins_joke < 1366236157 194844 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, where's fungot. < 1366236163 395708 :itsy!~digital_w@87.115.210.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the smallest know Brainfuck hello world? < 1366236178 391932 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it was the whining a bunch for someone saying "sorry I can't work on this emacs thing right now because we just had a baby" on the mailing list thing < 1366236187 318527 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-207-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1366236190 948340 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1366236194 914852 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ++++[>++++<-]>+[>>++>+>+>++<[+++++<]<-]>>>++.>-.<++++..+++.>>--.++<<<.---->.--<[-.>] < 1366236195 108984 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello world! < 1366236204 587115 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There we go. < 1366236209 419469 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-207-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe everyone is just terrible. < 1366236209 614215 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.96 PRIVMSG #esoteric :To help avoid misunderstandings of this kind in the future, since August I have changed the joke so that the Virgin of Emacs can be of either sex. < 1366236211 927155 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-207-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you terrible? < 1366236212 840922 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.96 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love stallman < 1366236217 564796 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :how dare people have children when software remains unfree < 1366236226 684604 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-207-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo i'm terrible < 1366236245 906179 :itsy!~digital_w@87.115.210.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That Hello World is 84 instructions. What's the shortest known? < 1366236256 710926 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay here we go < 1366236262 603064 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are two whole webpages about this happening at different times < 1366236264 352689 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.art.net/~hopkins/Don/text/rms-vs-doctor.html < 1366236267 566844 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a "hello world", not a "Hello World", though. < 1366236270 756073 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://edward.oconnor.cx/2005/04/rms < 1366236291 480355 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-207-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what the fuck. < 1366236331 705437 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wooooowwww < 1366236347 81928 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :geez. I didn't quite comprehend the magnitude of his self-absorbness < 1366236482 417331 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-207-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ahaha he does overpopulation shit < 1366236488 298118 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least nobody actually expects stallman to be well-adjusted in the first place < 1366236521 753604 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can we not lose track of the fact that we are comparing him to wolfram here < 1366236540 931677 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-207-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Human overpopulation is the root cause of every environmental problem in this world" wow this is a deep vein of terrible < 1366236543 774390 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i feel it's one of those "greater good" type deals < 1366236544 341193 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I understood the above links correctly, I should point out here on channel that I did not have a baby today. Was this correct? < 1366236560 136422 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't worry fizzie < 1366236565 515064 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're all your children < 1366236571 938868 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow. he's. actually an antinatalist < 1366236593 689779 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: you're married though, i thought married people did all the weird boring things like having babies < 1366236593 884777 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-207-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :malthusianism is so incredibly silly, argh < 1366236596 696919 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :constantly < 1366236599 978204 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : you totally can, but it's progressively less likely? and I think arithmetic coders have some thing to work around it <-- what i see is that you can do expansion when the range gets inside [0.25, 0.75), and keep a counter for how many times you've done that since you last actually wrote a bit. then when you get to actually write a bit, prepend count number of the opposite bit. i think. < 1366236617 640356 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: OHHHHH. right. I think I remember something to that effect < 1366236620 665518 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"bits outstanding" or something? < 1366236634 592199 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that makes much more sense, thanks < 1366236646 955966 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION mentally fixes the hole in her explanation
< 1366236668 23594 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I suppose it correlates, like those pirates and global warming. < 1366236682 473181 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it also correlates with you being really old! < 1366236699 949376 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :* _append_ count opposite bits, i think. < 1366236718 611659 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I'm not making any babies, I heard it would ruin the world. < 1366236725 890851 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :append to output before appending the rest of the bits to output? < 1366236770 740683 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.96 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ,[.,]!Hello, world! < 1366236770 935223 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, world! < 1366236774 255525 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.96 PRIVMSG #esoteric :5 instructions hth < 1366236786 998764 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and wow. the emacs thing. just. eeesh < 1366236798 837908 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: would you rather ruin the world or statistics? < 1366236805 893529 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hear speech recognition uses a lot of the latter, but is useless in the former. < 1366236810 791039 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the choice seems obvious! < 1366236847 557643 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that was a good one) < 1366236865 180063 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can find jokes about me by other people in stallmanfacts.com. However, if a joke describes any software as "open" or "closed", please vote it down, because that would give the wrong idea of what I stand for. < 1366236869 118340 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :-- stallman.org < 1366236874 393994 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :classic < 1366236885 673356 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's someone else's humor about me. The statements attributed to me are quoted out of context from my info packet for people organizing my speeches. < 1366236895 983608 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ESR's favorite programming language: Objectivist C. < 1366236900 246633 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha even stallman makes fun of esr < 1366237013 394106 :Baryalay!~Bawar@103.28.133.12 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1366237196 979030 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :esr isn't an objectivist is he < 1366237202 357130 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's some generic libertarian crazy < 1366237219 318130 :itsy!~digital_w@87.115.210.249 PART :#esoteric < 1366237258 370264 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's a link to someone else's joke < 1366237289 18699 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh no; stallmanfacts.com has, in fact, been taken over by a domain squatter. < 1366237307 901787 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now the facts only live on in /usr/share/octave/3.6.2/m/miscellaneous/fact.m. < 1366237354 959345 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do any of them mention open or closed < 1366237372 375306 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not really in a "bad" way. < 1366237380 43356 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Richard Stallman doesn't really believe in open software, because it's not free enough." < 1366237383 589506 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, that's a fact. < 1366237387 666699 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-207-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hilarious. < 1366237395 245089 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : did someone break pastelog or something < 1366237398 438956 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Richard Stallman, upon reading these facts, didn't laugh at all. Instead, he complained that he is being linked to that dirty \"open source\" software. He also asked it to be changed to \"free software\", in order to raise awareness for software freedom in our society." < 1366237403 836645 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually having a laughter seizure; dying; please help; stallmanfacts just too funny < 1366237416 674379 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That may or may not be a fact, but it's still not misleading. < 1366237419 536119 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<-- i used `pastelogs yesterday and it worked, maybe `pastelog has diverged? < 1366237426 669453 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Richard Stallman does not contribute to open source projects; open source projects contribute to Richard Stallman, and then call themselves free software projects." < 1366237433 764387 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's something I can't really describe. < 1366237442 78663 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well it "worked" < 1366237474 537463 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are no references to "closed" software, it's all just "non-free". < 1366237482 129061 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose someone may have "fixed" the facts. < 1366237489 583410 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :faxed the facts < 1366237520 551509 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Richard Stallman's computer has only two buttons. One is for guests." < 1366237524 805073 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some of these are just bizarre. < 1366237571 554142 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-210-24.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1366237581 347405 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Many of them do make fun of the "does not bathe" thing. < 1366237599 494050 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-210-24.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the what now < 1366237632 665037 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Richard Stallman is licensed under GPL, so you can clone him and redistribute copies so you can help your neighbor. For example a version that take a bath more often." "Richard Stallman does not take bath, for the hydroelectric company uses proprietary software." "Agent Smith loves Richard Stallman's scent." < 1366237637 672171 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sort of stuff. < 1366237648 352237 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-210-24.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oooookay < 1366237685 693252 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: why do both of those have missing "s"es < 1366237689 975539 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :take[s] a bath, take bath[s] < 1366237697 233031 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :er both two < 1366237698 44371 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :first < 1366237698 940570 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thing < 1366237704 211756 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the cloning thing actually sounds reasonable, but I doubt genetic engineering can control bathiness yet < 1366237708 359345 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quote maker is russian < 1366237729 698015 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Because the s was not free software enough. < 1366237735 262505 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: you mean open source < 1366237735 730735 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Fact.) < 1366237750 349111 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-207-229.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1366237754 282508 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-210-24.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1366237867 736490 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan: well it "worked" <-- i'm pretty sure it gave me the date, since i used it to look up the actual log page :P < 1366237931 62783 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you click the paste in question < 1366237935 867330 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you will see the anomalous lines I was referring to < 1366237943 536803 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like mostly the output was fine < 1366237993 888687 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1366238016 830539 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i'm talking about my yesterday `pastelogs < 1366238032 751778 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I don't know what you mean by the date < 1366238079 743934 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/f90804fc6712/paste/paste.1592 < 1366238088 765876 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the part before the .txt, hth < 1366238150 562342 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I feel like I must be expressing myself incredibly unclearly. again, did you click the pastelogs I did that lead to me saying it was broken? it too had dates. but it also had lines just out of nowhere with no date or name and not even a proper sentence, occasionally in-between those < 1366238223 889583 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like watching two people with no language in common. < 1366238248 786009 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-210-24.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION gesticulates wildly, accidentally pokes elliott in the eye
< 1366238259 329784 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yes. i'm looking at it now. what seems to happen is that lines containing weird\nick has turned the \n into an actual newline. < 1366238298 66136 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run diff bin/pastelog bin/pastelogs < 1366238300 118379 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1366238309 479978 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok so there's no difference there < 1366238322 286006 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/pastelogs < 1366238323 790028 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ cd /var/irclogs/_esoteric \ \ pasterandom() { \ if [ "$1" -gt 150 ]; then \ echo "No." \ exit \ fi \ for i in $(seq "$1"); do \ file=$(shuf -en 1 ????-??-??.txt) \ echo "$file:$(shuf -n 1 $file)" \ done | paste \ } \ \ if [ "$1" ]; then \ if expr "$1" + 0 >/dev/null 2>&1; then \ < 1366238326 305134 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Escaping failure < 1366238333 303275 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: sounds like it < 1366238343 659212 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run diff- u bin/pastelog{,s} < 1366238344 952895 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: diff-: command not found < 1366238347 313126 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run diff -u bin/pastelog{,s} < 1366238349 178563 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1366238353 874743 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1366238354 906516 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you did that < 1366238396 361735 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yes. the bug isn't new, it only showed up because the search hit a bunch of stuff with \n it it < 1366238399 473335 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*in it < 1366238410 578203 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assume < 1366238450 548452 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`url bin/pastelogs < 1366238453 177450 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/bin/pastelogs < 1366238469 587150 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1366238478 498331 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run readlink bin/pastelogs # they're actually the same thing. < 1366238480 990907 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :pastelog < 1366238483 949588 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that one is a symbolic link < 1366238582 226394 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's/lines=\([$].*\)/lines="\1"/' bin/pastelog < 1366238585 872222 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1366238596 922808 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.96 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pastelog will stop working in the year 10000 wow < 1366238603 463915 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.96 PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo awful < 1366238605 676203 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm < 1366238616 480730 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that won't work because there's a " inside too < 1366238642 958391 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you escape that so it works? < 1366238662 486681 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you sure it's not just the echo "$lines" interpreting escapes by default? < 1366238666 670026 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some echos do. < 1366238680 545215 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-223-150.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1366238685 948050 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bash echo has a -E that disables them. < 1366238692 320633 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "test\nho" < 1366238695 733333 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :test\nho < 1366238710 144231 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: even worse, < 1366238711 628471 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/list < 1366238712 532492 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-210-24.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1366238713 488302 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ grep '^..:..:..: <[^>]*> `list' /var/irclogs/_esoteric/201[3-9]-??-??.txt | sed 's/^.*.*//;s/_*$//' | sort -u | tr '\n' ' ' < 1366238715 899948 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :will break in 2020 < 1366238716 94334 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-223-150.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1366238718 599564 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: But that's run as bin/sh. < 1366238719 760257 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo 'test\nho' < 1366238725 825753 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: pastelog, I mean. < 1366238727 850375 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :test\nho < 1366238728 144372 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo -e 'test\nho' < 1366238729 767364 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :test \ ho < 1366238738 947193 :carado_!~carado@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:221:63ff:fe9a:3747 JOIN :#esoteric < 1366238778 258536 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run /bin/sh -c 'echo "foo\nbar"' < 1366238780 693534 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo \ bar < 1366238786 649863 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-41-137.public.wayport.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1366238797 106140 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact, it's possible changing it to just /bin/bash might fix it. < 1366238803 86979 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1366238807 152370 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1366238831 705103 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sed -i '1s/sh/bash/' bin/pastelog < 1366238832 965463 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usage: sed [OPTION]... {script-only-if-no-other-script} [input-file]... \ \ -n, --quiet, --silent \ suppress automatic printing of pattern space \ -e script, --expression=script \ add the script to the commands to be executed \ -f script-file, --file=script-file \ add the contents of script- < 1366238837 813788 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i '1s/sh/bash/' bin/pastelog < 1366238841 756072 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1366238855 448800 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelog `welcome < 1366238863 502482 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO WARRANTY EXPRESS OR IMPLIED < 1366238875 853954 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just thought I'd get that out. < 1366238879 508998 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1366238880 409186 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.31610 < 1366238900 962271 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie++ < 1366238901 370007 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess we should stop using #!/bin/sh < 1366238926 416933 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not every system has bash < 1366238955 691183 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't you care about portability? < 1366239042 935904 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.96 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1366239224 971566 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.112 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1366239291 511909 :WeThePeople!~WeThePeop@unaffiliated/wethepeople JOIN :#esoteric < 1366239371 660434 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : it was about a dwarf fortress dwarf named after the DS9 bashir <-- ah now it makes all sense < 1366239477 637674 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : fizzie: i don't suppose you might consider doing something about this. getting a channel regular to leave because you told them to kill themselves is out of line. and this isn't the first time he's done it to shachaf < 1366239502 805442 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: imo you need to start reading the logs backwards < 1366239503 265156 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-250-200.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1366239503 559100 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-41-137.public.wayport.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1366239514 125605 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: PROBABLY < 1366239524 132481 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :SORRY FOR INTERRUPTING TYPING YOUR REPLY < 1366239537 970649 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I did something already, I promised to type a note maybe. < 1366239548 896270 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1366239567 711021 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That counts, right? < 1366239568 949689 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: don't you interrupt him too. < 1366239578 469423 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it's ok irssi has good enough history you can stop and restart typing lines < 1366239587 493095 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-41-137.public.wayport.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1366239608 846687 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although now i shall have to see what fizzie did first < 1366239611 655533 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy fucking hell < 1366239626 476418 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I suggested he read all the lines at the same time to see both context and the followups < 1366239631 243097 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the current twee bbc competition show is the "Great British Sewing Bee" < 1366239642 496145 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(he didn't want to do that, for some reason) < 1366239648 528935 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-223-150.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1366239723 63089 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: i bitch at my short term memory all the time, no point giving it _more_ reasons to fail me. < 1366239818 950200 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :just drop all the lines that don't fit in memory, they were probably not important anyway < 1366239856 441141 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, just ignore anything that happens when you weren't here, and you will be much happier and ignoranter < 1366239885 934942 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hth) < 1366239891 766431 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not to mention have more time to surf the rest of the net < 1366239897 978226 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed! < 1366239934 513005 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : That counts, right? <-- yes, but the count decrements gradually < 1366239956 172570 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :.noisiced doog a no snoitalutargnoC .sdrawkcab sgol eht daer ot detrats deedni evah ot mees uoy ,najreo ,olleH < 1366239978 339294 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's a secret message.) < 1366239982 905730 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1366239993 486893 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is kinda freaked out by how easily he could read that
< 1366240039 512688 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf JOIN :#esoteric < 1366240067 904754 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ALL IS WELL < 1366240077 732378 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(EVERYBODY SHUT UP) < 1366240095 82353 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: Yes, my implementation of Mako is the one using SDL. < 1366240108 853606 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's also the ludicrously efficient one. < 1366240177 900051 :carado_!~carado@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:221:63ff:fe9a:3747 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1366240635 663112 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : perhaps I should change tack and make fizzie an admin instead. <-- good luck with that. < 1366240648 741765 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't understand the power at my fingertips < 1366240838 360250 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db4e835.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1366240906 416217 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/pikhq/cmako < 1366240958 948822 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-200.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1366241009 205161 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: fun fact: the existence difficult monoids is equivalent to the axiom of choice < 1366241024 616306 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I'd probably be as industrous a wiki admin as I am a diligent channel operator. < 1366241035 551476 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I was informed that you wanted a fun fact from me.) < 1366241041 680800 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :/home/freefull/code/cmako/build-aux/missing: Unknown `--is-lightweight' option < 1366241072 189763 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-250-200.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1366241113 709479 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: see? < 1366241139 321746 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: what's a ... oh. < 1366241211 173704 :WeThePeople!~WeThePeop@unaffiliated/wethepeople QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1366241214 233175 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-200.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: thx. < 1366241253 918400 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like how the press doesn't even bother to explain filibustering and cloture anymore, they just say "you need 60 votes to pass a bill in the senate" < 1366241262 773581 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and by "like" i mean, our government is terminally broken < 1366241380 419805 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because it's hopelessly deadlocked? < 1366241410 13918 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-200.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i our government is terminally broken how the press < 1366241424 328795 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: a lot of reasons, that's one though < 1366241432 350291 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fun: Going back and forth between two possible approaches without distributed VC < 1366241441 723454 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: don't do it < 1366241448 782842 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And not wanting to commit such nonsense publically < 1366241469 687760 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :use git-svn or something < 1366241484 481417 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :svn diff > test1.diff; patch -p0 < test2.diff; repeating forever? <.< < 1366241491 750399 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION remembers doing that -_-
< 1366241501 531094 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : according to my trusty steed, I must be voiced. <-- you can ride cuttlefish? < 1366241508 897085 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meh. Both ideas are now represented in code to some extent. < 1366241509 91151 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh not here. < 1366241511 621678 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the same codebase < 1366241524 801093 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need a shelve feature. Does git have shelve? < 1366241546 588009 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know what shelve is < 1366241550 181523 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there's git stash < 1366241597 208583 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think hg-svn also exists < 1366241605 410059 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :failing that, git-hg does, so by transitivity... < 1366241619 397436 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should run the same repo through git-hg, hg-svn, and git-svn over and over < 1366241619 898715 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-200.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds horrifying, elliott. < 1366241623 936743 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :until it gets hopelessly corrupted < 1366241630 616168 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-200.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait kmc made it horrifyinger < 1366241638 422598 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i worked somewhere that had a few devs still using CVS, and we had to sync their changes to our git repo < 1366241639 956467 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-200.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like translation party except it probably won't degenerate into sex jokes :( < 1366241641 437150 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*that* was horrifying < 1366241656 179373 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: why didn't you force them to switch < 1366241663 997698 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: they made more money than us < 1366241665 481827 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :finance job < 1366241680 300110 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: so this is the true reason finance is horrifying < 1366241692 98150 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a true reason < 1366241702 402568 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what should i do with my life < 1366241715 586327 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't like finance, don't like web startupland < 1366241720 711449 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-200.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you think ten years ago those cvs-ing employees were complaining about people just throwing flat patches around < 1366241723 997399 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i don't like big companies but i've never really worked for one < 1366241732 374252 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: maybe < 1366241738 270298 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-200.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly you should go into research i hear being a postdoc is Awesome < 1366241744 283607 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :throwing flat patches around is arguable better than CVS < 1366241749 645849 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what the linux kernel people believe anyway < 1366241751 294656 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-200.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1366241751 489672 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: uh are you able to improve the lives of the disadvantaged without going insane or getting incredibly depressed < 1366241760 380237 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: how would i do it though < 1366241765 942776 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're looking for shoulds that's probably the blanket one < 1366241775 716558 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've thrown flat patches around < 1366241781 302261 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :At this job < 1366241782 396172 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought i would do it by working for a web startup and getting ridiculous bubble money and giving it away < 1366241785 266254 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that of course very few people are likely to actually act on (including me, though I would probably go insane and get incredibly depressed) < 1366241788 18038 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it didn't work out < 1366241802 82870 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-200.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you could start a startup for helping disadvantaged people start startups < 1366241806 336246 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: maybe you could speculate bitcoins < 1366241811 863379 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: isn't that what kiva is < 1366241817 300910 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i asked for more money so i could give it away, and they fired me instead < 1366241819 345649 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-200.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes darn scopped < 1366241820 156142 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(over simplification) < 1366241841 495393 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :asking for more money at a startup sounds < 1366241843 991765 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :difficult < 1366241849 59006 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-200.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno what's a way to help people. logistics. tell people the food bank doesn't need more cranberry sauce jesus christ donate laundry detergent instead everybody needs it < 1366241866 602091 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1366241869 486690 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just gave them money < 1366241875 952345 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, and people generally don't need cranberry sauce < 1366241885 653517 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should develop a process for fermenting cranberry sauce into cheap liquor < 1366241887 668429 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a pattern is emerging < 1366241895 507557 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-200.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think we still have cranberry sauce from thanksgiving and we've been throwing two into every fucking basket < 1366241896 450611 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you could overthrow capitalism and become a dictator < 1366241899 744020 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think we already have that these days < 1366241900 496703 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but this time be good instead of evil < 1366241907 191585 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: heh < 1366241926 701048 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-200.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc should make the new cybersyn < 1366241933 915698 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-200.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so a socialist government can fuck over striking workers < 1366241934 698994 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Money might be a better thing to donate instead of food because even if it's a food bank they can use the money to buy whatever food is needed and not whatever happens to be given < 1366241944 632181 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the guys in the year above me could make booze with some canned fruit they found in the home economics department you can make it with cranberry sauce < 1366241949 743966 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i will build THATCHERBOT 50,000 < 1366241956 233836 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-200.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1366241970 306984 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: perhaps find something you enjoy and then give away some of the money to alleviate your guilt despite the fact that it's much less than you theoretically could give away if you were satisfied with being less comfortable < 1366241972 924171 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-200.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously though it's "hilarious" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Cybersyn < 1366241977 395447 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I've seen it < 1366241980 617164 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-200.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :greatest success of robosocialism: strikebreaking < 1366241985 352496 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :p. cool idea, little to no validation that it would work < 1366242006 191959 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I were dictator I would probably institute democratic futarchy just to see what happens < 1366242010 987187 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :vote on values, bet on outcomes! < 1366242013 679389 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-200.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess nowadays they call that sort of thing operations research < 1366242032 545107 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i'll buy the most expensive Oracle ERP software and use it to run my country < 1366242036 129106 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :futarchy strikes me as a bad idea < 1366242038 748028 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is futarchy where hermaphrodites are in power < 1366242044 313461 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-200.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that "erotic roleplay" kmc < 1366242048 502952 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"vote on values, bet on outcomes!" has the advantage of fitting nicely on a sign or in a chant < 1366242055 301598 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yep it's where oracle makes most of their money < 1366242056 159961 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-200.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have no idea what it means < 1366242059 140535 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-200.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, a nice slogan < 1366242064 63790 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my slogan? < 1366242066 74930 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-200.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1366242079 41964 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-200.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"E-Business Suite", ok < 1366242084 583089 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it means you use normal democratic methods to establish a socially agreed upon utility function < 1366242085 415866 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in my mind kmc's ideal state is not a place i want to live in < 1366242086 406747 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at all < 1366242093 256703 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-200.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Within the overall rubric of Oracle Applications - Apps,[1] Oracle Corporation's E-Business Suite (also known as Applications/Apps or EB-Suite/EBS) consists of a collection of enterprise resource planning (ERP), customer relationship management (CRM), and supply-chain management (SCM) computer applications either developed or acquired by Oracle" oh so it is related < 1366242100 510325 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you use prediction markets to decide the specific policies that should be pursued to fulfill that utility function < 1366242104 244724 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-200.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hacks at jargon with a machete
< 1366242148 726553 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the idea is that the market is better at figuring out what will 'work', but has a cruel and cold idea of what it wants, so the proper role of government is to make the market want 'good' things < 1366242149 235620 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-200.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :prediction markets... < 1366242157 106328 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-200.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is this called "futarchy" < 1366242160 942164 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :futures < 1366242171 368165 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-200.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, good, i was expecting "it's the government of the future" < 1366242181 453510 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1366242185 439735 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'It was named by the New York Times as a buzzword of 2008' < 1366242196 353479 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :robin hanson is kind of... robin hanson < 1366242202 299320 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've heard that < 1366242227 300573 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-41-137.public.wayport.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1366242234 25960 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so kmc you know how you mock people who get cs degrees and realise they can totally fix the world < 1366242255 908783 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-200.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, at least he's citing the system of some actual (if possibly crazy) economist instead of making shit up < 1366242298 707750 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-200.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think economics stopped making sense to me around the time i read a paper about how the market being efficient would imply P=NP < 1366242349 30671 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db4e835.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well please, go ahead and fix it! < 1366242367 781147 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-200.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what, economics? < 1366242369 798391 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, seems to me the same argument could be applied to, like objectivists. < 1366242373 622384 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*like, < 1366242374 982975 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db4e835.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the world < 1366242375 990603 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: a thought: you are unlikely to figure out how to better the world better than people who have already tried to figure out how to better the world < 1366242376 184834 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: yeah < 1366242380 787311 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-200.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: that was sort of the idea < 1366242389 157132 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you could figure out what they do and do that instead. except probably their methods involve being rich < 1366242396 983373 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-200.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: since libertarians usually believe the market is efficient because they know shit-all < 1366242398 481373 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I'm bullshitting and don't seriously claim that I should be put in charge to institute futarchy < 1366242408 984315 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i said "just to see what happens" < 1366242414 245623 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: anyway < 1366242416 421226 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: another thought < 1366242419 309686 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-200.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc for indecisive president < 1366242424 789704 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yeah, that was my previous plan, make lots of money and give it to those people < 1366242433 237593 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: if you are asking a random lazy 17-year-old on IRC what to do with your life you've probably hit rock bottom < 1366242441 689672 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so do absolutely anything else and your life will improve!! < 1366242444 409257 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I should just find a finance company that doesn't suck < 1366242445 436541 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: haha < 1366242448 214809 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought you were 18 now < 1366242453 188816 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a few months < 1366242455 198954 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :when is elliott day < 1366242458 492390 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :august 22 < 1366242459 289031 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-200.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :proto-18 < 1366242464 918044 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm a random lazy 18-year-old on irc < 1366242469 930958 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if anything i'm randomer and lazier < 1366242482 66863 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: you actually do things though < 1366242482 566905 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i feel like I went from being usually the youngest person in a room to usually the oldest without any intermediate phase < 1366242496 33760 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, do i < 1366242498 822240 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do i really < 1366242513 323706 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: do you have that mathematics degree yet < 1366242514 754985 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I woke up one day and I was like. not 18 anymore and suddenly old < 1366242517 790274 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db4e835.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :august 22 <-- is that your birthday? < 1366242518 844607 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1366242523 261575 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hagb4rd: yes < 1366242526 869517 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: imo 18 is pretty old < 1366242530 122346 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db4e835.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im 23th ;) < 1366242531 182689 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :practically ancient < 1366242531 485766 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably i should have revised today < 1366242545 817773 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it was around the time I was doing my taxes ;-; < 1366242550 103427 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db4e835.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :23rd < 1366242553 845900 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :my grey hairs conceal a head of wrinkles and soon i will evaporate into dust < 1366242555 61916 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db4e835.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever < 1366242564 169822 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i liked 23th < 1366242567 653872 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :twentythreeth < 1366242580 738355 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i remember turning 18 because i spent most of that day sitting in a car driving to coventry < 1366242592 21535 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: the horrors of aging < 1366242608 756191 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and most of that evening trying not to think about my kitchenware < 1366242611 833489 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not too much longer until christmas cake < 1366242614 934053 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh god < 1366242620 22401 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this what i will be like when i turn 18 < 1366242627 910266 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :driving to coventry... thinking about kitchenware... < 1366242631 522187 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1366242644 63597 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-200.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: apropos of nothing maybe you could try reading some economist like amartya sen? he got an econ nobel and most of his work is on poor people and starvation < 1366242655 769948 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds real uplifting < 1366242660 532949 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter PART :#esoteric < 1366242666 831683 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know, my life has been lacking in "sent to coventry" jokes of late < 1366242669 479052 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Poor People & The Starvation Thereof: A Treatise < 1366242680 984962 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in retrospect this is quite surprising < 1366242697 743796 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-200.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: "Poverty and Famines : An Essay on Entitlements and Deprivation" < 1366242704 423386 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: see I basically nailed it < 1366242707 141273 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-200.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1366242742 730907 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-200.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tackles such uplifting subjects as the bengal famine (three million dead) and the holodomor (another three million dead) (both mostly from human error) < 1366242765 853186 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought the latter was more from stalin not giving a shit about ukraine < 1366242772 749675 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds like human error < 1366242775 26902 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stalin error < 1366242786 657284 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stalin error: he wasn't a very nice person < 1366242791 943085 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-200.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah what he said < 1366242795 485235 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db4e835.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: thats extactly what i had to think about < 1366242807 88154 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-200.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not like the british authorities much cared about bengal either < 1366242809 267956 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :was the bengal famine the one churchill was evil about < 1366242821 555058 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-200.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you know: wikipedia has an article on famines in british india, specifically < 1366242827 930784 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-200.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun place fun times < 1366242828 985636 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :man I knew churchill had to be evil < 1366242840 110728 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone likes him way too much and he sounded kind of like a jerk so i was suspicious < 1366242849 606084 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-200.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh he was definitely a jerk < 1366242856 537245 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess selling car insurance is pretty evil to start with [BRITISH LAUGH TRACK] < 1366242866 240450 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db4e835.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :seen a documentary lastly..it's called "soviet story"..there is a lot of shocking facts that are mostly unknown to the public (or at least they're not very popular) < 1366242881 91003 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the house my mum was born in was (formerly) owned by churchill < 1366242882 913015 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :come on. that was good. Phantom_Hoover?? < 1366242883 107644 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db4e835.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :was it 7 million deaths? < 1366242887 128040 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do they have those ads in scotland < 1366242894 843861 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he inherited, like, half the antrim coast from his aunt < 1366242895 341858 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-200.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :churchill also wrote a book about riding around in pakistan < 1366242902 407304 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-200.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hagb4rd: the holodomor? < 1366242910 890047 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db4e835.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :was it called like that? < 1366242918 877855 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he might have been a dick about that but i dunno < 1366242919 175115 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i have to say it. holodomor just sounds like a cross between holocaust and mordor < 1366242932 554689 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-200.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the holodomor is the famine in the ukraine in the 30s. < 1366242940 792672 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i said i had to say it!! < 1366242943 466315 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-200.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it's the same "holo" in "holocaust", good job < 1366242951 384669 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-200.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tip: that means "death" < 1366242951 579098 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the kind of name you should give the worst possible thing < 1366242955 901052 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db4e835.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does it mean.. < 1366242956 346705 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't 'holo'... 'whole' < 1366242957 388401 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db4e835.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1366242964 170892 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then what's a hologram Bike < 1366242965 693288 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually < 1366242970 161093 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it also sounds kind of like dumbledore < 1366243003 555571 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not saying dumbledore, hitler and sauron conspired to cause a famine in ukraine, but... < 1366243009 72616 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, yeah holocaust is whole-burnt, you UNEDUCATED FUCK < 1366243009 271688 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm saying it's not IMPOSSIBLE < 1366243028 583394 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-200.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: ok well "holodomor" is "wholly starved" then < 1366243031 493210 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db4e835.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :its ironic the export of grain reached its height the same years < 1366243032 494921 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-200.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :very straightforward. < 1366243038 897638 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db4e835.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe its not ironic < 1366243040 121104 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is holocaust wholly died < 1366243045 749057 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, and you have a go at me for a couple of ill-advised suicide jokes < 1366243046 889631 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1366243049 120904 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :he literally just said that < 1366243053 786106 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :by he i mean Phantom_Hoover < 1366243058 625744 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-200.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hagb4rd: it's not ironic, similar things happened in bengal and ireland and such, Sen goes over this stuff < 1366243061 590088 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Himver < 1366243079 540902 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-200.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hagb4rd: also if you want Shitty Soviet Things i highly recommend looking up Operation Lentil < 1366243084 399095 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db4e835.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was absolutely inteded by stalin < 1366243099 963534 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db4e835.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for that its NOT ironic < 1366243103 751217 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :operation... < 1366243104 753535 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lentil < 1366243104 947708 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db4e835.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :exucse me < 1366243111 772756 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-200.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: i know, right? < 1366243125 893679 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't even involve fucking lentils < 1366243143 267143 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there were TWO FUCKING OPERATION LENTILS........ < 1366243144 598911 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like... < 1366243147 124360 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a disambiguation page < 1366243152 903916 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but why < 1366243171 981213 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-200.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uncreative military planners hth < 1366243176 935558 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :man it's always siberia