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For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) 00:35:51 shachaf: how many make jokes about wanting help with pentacles? 00:36:20 `pastelogs pentacle 00:36:54 http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.25552 00:38:24 two copies of the same joke, one that's not a joke at all, and then you? 00:38:51 I thought everything zzo38 says is a joke. 00:39:21 I think most of it is entirely serious 00:39:36 pentacles isn't the problem 00:39:36 cups is 00:41:15 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 00:42:04 -!- augur has joined. 00:52:07 -!- btiffin has left. 00:55:13 kmc: Did you know about https://code.google.com/p/strace-plus/ ? 00:58:13 -!- TeruFSX has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 00:59:27 -!- TeruFSX has joined. 01:00:34 ooh 01:01:05 i wonder if perf does this too 01:01:52 Stack traces? For what? 01:02:16 yes 01:02:26 doesn't perf do userspace profiling in addition to the performance counters stuff 01:03:56 perf probably does a lot of things I don't know about. 01:04:05 For example I just found out about `perf top` 01:07:54 seems GNU Radio has a bunch of C code that is templated using http://www.cheetahtemplate.org/ 01:08:11 take that, #python people who told me several years ago that I was crazy for wanting to do that! 01:08:28 laugh at strangers on freenode in hell 01:08:34 yep 01:08:44 That proved you were not crazy for wanting to do that? 01:08:57 no not really 01:14:44 `pastelogs supermegacomics.com 01:15:03 http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.14095 01:16:56 they should've used php for generating C code, since php comes with a builtin template engine 01:18:03 {-# LANGUAGE PHP #-} as an alternative for CPP. 01:18:12 olsner: yes 01:18:20 also ion in re: yes 01:18:29 -!- copumpkin has changed nick to Buffett. 01:18:50 jimmy or warren 01:18:57 I wonder if PHP has CPP integration too 01:18:58 or breakfast 01:19:11 Perhaps it’s PHP all the way down. 01:19:46 or phoebe 01:21:08 -!- Buffett has changed nick to copumpkin. 01:21:53 -!- sirdancealo2 has joined. 01:38:35 kmc: Are you coming to BayHac 2013? 01:39:12 doubtful 01:42:28 do we have a `firstlog? 01:42:43 `cat bin/pastelogs 01:42:44 ​#!/bin/bash \ cd /var/irclogs/_esoteric \ \ pasterandom() { \ if [ "$1" -gt 150 ]; then \ echo "No." \ exit \ fi \ for i in $(seq "$1"); do \ file=$(shuf -en 1 ????-??-??.txt) \ echo "$file:$(shuf -n 1 $file)" \ done | paste \ } \ \ if [ "$1" ]; then \ if expr "$1" + 0 >/dev/null 2>&1; then \ 01:42:57 yeah but `pastelogs IRC would take far too long 01:42:59 err 01:43:02 `pastelogs ais523 01:43:10 http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.24412 01:43:14 whoops 01:43:37 hi ais523 01:43:46 oh, 2007, that's only half a decade ago 01:43:47 aha, it stops after a while 01:43:55 olsner: :☹( 01:44:15 shachaf: actually 20% more than half a decade 01:44:15 2007-01-15.txt:17:16:16: So there are people on #esoteric at the moment after all, then? I was monitoring the logs to see if anyone was online, but somehow I never seem to be online at the same time as other people... 01:44:31 i'm online 01:45:38 2007-01-17.txt:12:02:30: For those who don't know, it was me who caused EgoBot to crash 01:45:39 2007-01-17.txt:12:03:13: I fed it an infinite loop written in Unlambda, and it sent me an infinite number of copies of the letter 'b' in response, until it got thrown out 01:45:42 ah, memories 01:46:14 @unlambda `.i`.hi 01:46:14 hi 01:54:39 -!- copumpkin has changed nick to Buffett. 01:55:25 -!- Buffett has changed nick to copumpkin. 02:04:01 -!- conehead has joined. 02:11:19 -!- madbr has joined. 02:25:53 -!- copumpkin has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 02:26:31 -!- copumpkin has joined. 02:28:28 http://blog.pnuts.tk/2013/04/plaidctf-pyjail-story-of-pythons-escape.html this is some p. esoteric python 02:28:55 newtype Foo a = Foo { unFoo :: a }; instance Monoid a => Num (Foo a) where Foo x * Foo y = Foo (x <> y); fromInteger 1 = Foo mempty; timesN n = unFoo . (^ n) . Foo 02:39:52 http://img.chan4chan.com/img/2009-03-23/haqq3rs.jpg 02:46:32 icy hot stuntaz 02:49:32 -!- epicmonkey has joined. 03:12:05 -!- hagb4rd has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 03:21:46 -!- hagb4rd has joined. 03:28:37 @ask mnoqy How many values of type Either () () -> Either () () are there? 03:28:37 Consider it noted. 03:28:54 imo ugh 03:29:08 imo hi 03:29:10 himo 03:29:15 ☝ p. clever huh 03:29:44 no 03:33:06 oh man there's a copumpkin-dolio party in #scala 03:34:50 w ath 03:35:26 "several" 03:35:54 that's a lot of values 03:41:02 -!- TodPunk has quit (Quit: This is me, signing off. Probably rebooting or something.). 03:42:52 -!- TodPunk has joined. 03:45:12 -!- mnoqy has joined. 03:46:00 shachaf: that's not a very nice thing to ask 03:46:19 mnoqy: should i "unask it" 03:46:32 -!- epicmonkey has quit (Read error: Operation timed out). 03:47:52 -!- qwerty0 has joined. 03:47:58 shachaf: should i move to san francisco 03:49:37 kmc: i don't know 03:49:58 yes. next question. 03:50:25 why do you want to? 03:50:29 what's so great about san francisco, i say we go to mexico 03:51:46 mnoqy: how about: Endo (Either (Maybe Void) (Maybe Void)) 03:52:02 (Endo is free because it's a newtype..) 03:52:18 D: 03:52:28 ↁ: 03:53:34 kmc: just think of all the burritos 03:54:20 we have those here now too 03:54:42 what's........ ↁ 03:54:48 Alternative forms 03:54:48 V, MMMMM, mmmmm, V̅, Ⅴ̅ 03:54:53 MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM 03:55:57 hi 03:56:00 hi 03:57:07 kmc: well my crystal ball informs me that all the cool people move to san francisco 03:58:08 :( 03:58:25 sorry copumpkin 03:58:35 at least you're ol 04:00:08 it seems so 04:01:30 kmc: didn't you recommend a change of scenery/surroundings/something like that to me once 04:01:48 -!- qwerty0 has quit (Quit: Leaving). 04:02:15 did i 04:02:18 in re: what 04:04:32 in re: being generally frustrated 04:04:35 i would need to find a job in SF that isn't full of brogrammers or insufferable hipsters or whatever 04:04:46 it would be an exciting education in the degree to which these are real things! 04:04:59 i think these things are overstated 04:05:18 yes 04:05:28 thank you internet for bringing me the worst of everything, daily 04:05:36 but also...... the best? 04:06:39 * kmc thinks #esoteric is much closer to the best, all things considered 04:06:49 I think so too 04:07:07 as inexplicable as this place can be sometimes it generally isn't that bad 04:07:22 high praise 04:07:30 yes i quite like #esoteric 04:07:33 I feel comfortable here 04:07:39 i live in the hope that one day someone will think that sometimes i generally am not that bad 04:07:51 Fiora thinks ##fiora is the very best, of course 04:07:58 so is anyone else doing gsoc? 04:08:10 I'm the backup admin for haskell.org. Does that count? 04:08:16 or has anyone done it before. i'm suddenly intimidated by having to form a plan and generally not fuck up 04:08:16 i feel comfortable here because it's obviously v. accepting of strange people 04:10:05 are you strange people 04:10:14 am i strange people?? help 04:10:15 i don't know 04:10:20 maybe i am more sad than strange :/ 04:10:26 sad? 04:11:14 yeah 04:11:28 I,I They used to think I was ADD but it turned out I was just ODD. 04:11:51 overdosed o- oh. oh 04:12:09 :) 04:12:20 i got it. 04:12:30 did you know: in californee you can buy alcohol in grocery stores 04:12:33 "land of plenty" 04:12:42 and weed on every corner 04:13:07 you could move to berkeley 04:13:09 is that not normal? 04:13:14 like, alcohol in grocery stores 04:13:17 Fiora: you can't in MA :( 04:13:19 not in some states 04:13:24 even , like, wine? 04:13:30 in MA each company is only allowed to sell alcohol in 3 stores statewide 04:13:34 woow 04:13:38 so like... there are three Trader Joe's that sell booze 04:13:39 total 04:13:47 O_O even things like cooking wine? 04:13:50 it's not quite as bad as PA 04:14:05 i don't know about cooking wine, often it's salted such that you don't want to drink it 04:14:21 oh, they carded me when I bought some at the trader joe's 04:14:22 you still can't buy alcohol on sundays, right? 04:14:25 god i love mass 04:14:30 crypto/cooking advice: "always salt your hash" "don't put pickles in your cookies" 04:14:30 -!- TeruFSX has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 04:14:32 or wait was that just boston 04:14:34 buying cooking wine is like the only time I've ever been carded 04:14:38 Bike: I think I can 04:14:41 since, I mean. I don't normally buy alcohol... XD 04:14:58 Fiora is a total drunkard 04:15:02 -!- fizzie has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 04:15:03 totally -_- 04:15:09 one of my childhood memories is walking into a trader joe's with my dad and getting all excited about the liquor section being covered in caution tape 04:15:14 it's not like I've never drank more than about one sip in my life 04:15:25 I don't even know if I inherited the alcohol flush gene <.< 04:15:40 Fiora: that's one more sip than i have, so ha!! 04:15:44 should i drink alcohol 04:15:54 I don't think so, it doesn't seem like a good idea 04:17:19 Bike: which gsoc thing are you doing 04:17:27 like it makes you dumb and say dumb things and lose control of yourself for no real good reason 04:17:37 sbcl, hopefully 04:17:42 and then you wake up later and regret it 04:17:44 i still haven't decided which specific thing to do... 04:17:44 alcohol is overrated but it's allright 04:17:55 kmc: is that just the alcohol talking 04:18:44 mbe 04:18:50 Bike: have you considered......haskell 04:19:04 being in #esoteric is a lot like being drunk isn't it 04:19:12 Yes. I was convincing somebody to use it elsewhere today. 04:19:24 i mean for gsoc 04:20:19 I have a patch in sbcl and i'm sorta familiar with the codebase. Also I actually know Lisp, instead of my pretending to know Haskell. 04:20:38 good point 04:20:57 kmc: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_laws_in_the_United_States#Massachusetts my childhood!! 04:22:15 -!- fizzie has joined. 04:23:48 "Since the law changed in 2004, off-premises sales are now allowed anywhere in the state, with local approval, after noon." 04:23:51 local aproval 04:30:30 not much of a fan of local level of government... feels wrong to give them that kind of power 04:31:10 beer power? 04:32:14 -!- mnoqy has quit (Quit: hello). 04:33:55 to me it feels like letting old jealous ladies from your neighbourhood decide... dunno 04:35:43 and generally a plan to end up with a town where you can't do anything and there are no places to go out 04:36:26 and end up with a "doughnut" city that's dead in the middle (only example I've seen personally was cleveland) 04:59:18 -!- Bike has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 05:04:05 -!- mnoqy has joined. 05:04:05 -!- Bike has joined. 05:05:07 þeer 05:09:33 -!- Bike_ has joined. 05:09:47 -!- Bike has quit (Disconnected by services). 05:09:52 -!- Bike_ has changed nick to Bike. 05:55:25 -!- carado_ has joined. 05:58:29 -!- carado_ has quit (Client Quit). 06:23:34 -!- carado has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 06:35:38 -!- madbr has quit (Quit: Radiateur). 06:54:04 Bike: There's a friend of mine who did GSoC. 06:54:16 are they still alive 06:54:38 -!- carado has joined. 06:54:47 Bike: About the only detail I remember is that his mentoring organization complained on his Facebook wall that they'd like to see some commits, when he was rambling around Europe. 06:55:20 Bike: But he's still alive, and did finish the thing, and I think he's been on-and-off involved in the project since then too. 06:55:46 cool cool 06:56:10 I wonder if there are stats on how many people generally "fuck up" their projects. Some assumption of fucking up is built in the reward scheme. 06:56:45 "88.5% overall success rate" for 2012. 06:57:14 So if you do fail, you can brag about being part of the "11.5%". 06:57:41 hooray 06:57:49 you'll do fine bike 06:57:56 You'll do a fine bike. 06:58:00 Perhaps a recumbent of some sort. 07:05:45 Bike: you can't do gsoc if you're from Iran, Cuba, Myanmar, Sudan or North Korea hth 07:07:37 i'm from luxembourg. 07:07:43 wait, why sudan? 07:07:56 -!- conehead has quit (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.). 07:08:26 and why not south sudan.. i don't get it 07:11:12 don't be difficult Bike 07:19:37 kmc: have you watched the film Funny Bones 07:20:51 Bike: Why doesn't Luxembourg have Google Street View? 07:20:55 (Your fault?) 07:21:57 Fiora: irc color 07:24:52 -!- Bike has quit (Quit: tire). 07:31:51 shachaf: haven't 07:32:29 imo i enjoyed it 07:59:52 -!- copumpkin has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 08:00:28 -!- copumpkin has joined. 08:29:06 -!- ThatOtherPerson has joined. 08:34:18 -!- ThatOtherPerson has quit (Quit: Page closed). 08:34:59 -!- FreeFull has quit. 09:01:03 -!- nooga has joined. 09:01:08 -!- hagb4rd has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 09:21:21 -!- nooga_ has joined. 09:24:00 -!- nooga has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 09:38:40 -!- Jafet has joined. 09:58:18 -!- SirCmpwn has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 10:01:30 -!- epicmonkey has joined. 10:04:27 -!- SirCmpwn has joined. 10:05:21 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 10:13:00 -!- tromp__ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 10:13:57 -!- tromp__ has joined. 10:22:29 -!- copumpkin has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 10:23:08 -!- copumpkin has joined. 10:44:25 -!- nooodl has joined. 10:51:53 -!- nooodl has quit (Quit: Leaving). 10:56:25 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 11:12:35 -!- Gracenotes has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 11:13:06 -!- mnoqy has quit (Quit: hello). 11:13:47 -!- Gracenotes has joined. 11:15:56 -!- Koen_ has joined. 11:36:41 -!- augur has joined. 12:14:23 Saizan: How did you end up in this channel? 12:15:20 All roads lead here. 12:16:23 Yes. That's why I asked which road. 12:18:45 shachaf: i've seen it mentioned here and there, and i was looking for somewhere else to lurk 12:20:04 Ah. 12:35:24 -!- TeruFSX has joined. 12:41:19 -!- TeruFSX has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 13:01:32 -!- boily has joined. 13:06:17 @ask mnoqy hey do you like domain theory problems................. 13:06:17 Consider it noted. 13:07:27 -!- ThatOtherPerson has joined. 13:16:47 -!- metasepia has joined. 13:18:51 -!- augur has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 13:19:10 -!- augur has joined. 13:26:18 -!- ThatOtherPersonY has joined. 13:28:25 -!- ThatOtherPerson has quit (Disconnected by services). 13:28:35 -!- ThatOtherPersonY has changed nick to ThatOtherPerson. 13:35:05 @ask mnoqy also, how many functions of type () -> () -> () 13:35:06 Consider it noted. 13:39:05 -!- ais523 has quit. 13:44:15 -!- boily has quit (Quit: Poulet!). 13:44:24 -!- boily has joined. 14:02:39 -!- boily has quit (Quit: Poulet!). 14:02:58 -!- boily has joined. 14:04:20 -!- heroux has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 14:06:03 -!- heroux has joined. 14:11:16 -!- bengt_ has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 14:15:11 -!- bengt_ has joined. 14:15:39 -!- Taneb has joined. 14:27:36 -!- ThatOtherPerson has quit (Quit: Leaving). 14:28:17 -!- ThatOtherPerson has joined. 14:33:49 -!- conehead has joined. 15:08:48 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 15:08:57 Hi 15:09:05 -!- Lymia has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 15:09:56 AnotherTest: hi. 15:13:25 Hi! 15:17:06 qatar wants to grab the ICAO headquarters from us! http://affaires.lapresse.ca/economie/transports/201304/23/01-4643911-le-qatar-veut-ravir-loaci-a-montreal.php 15:18:17 -!- FreeFull has joined. 15:28:09 -!- ThatOtherPerson has quit (Quit: Leaving). 15:37:49 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Quit: Leaving.). 16:07:38 -!- epicmonkey has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 16:16:41 -!- bengt_ has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 16:23:56 -!- ogrom has joined. 16:25:27 -!- ogrom has quit (Client Quit). 16:41:38 -!- bengt_ has joined. 16:51:55 -!- nortti has changed nick to nortiecat. 16:52:25 -!- nortiecat has changed nick to nortti. 17:23:26 -!- Bike has joined. 17:29:53 -!- sirdancealo2 has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 17:44:56 -!- calamari has joined. 18:03:43 -!- variable has changed nick to constant. 18:06:06 -!- mnoqy has joined. 18:43:24 -!- calamari has quit (Quit: Bye). 18:44:58 -!- ThatOtherPerson has joined. 18:47:01 -!- Taneb has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 18:54:40 -!- copumpkin has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 18:54:49 Is there a tool like nice or ionice for setting the scheduler? I mean the stuff that sched_getscheduler(2) does 18:55:00 -!- augur has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 18:55:20 -!- copumpkin has joined. 18:55:20 -!- augur has joined. 18:57:12 -!- oerjan has joined. 19:11:14 -!- Taneb has joined. 19:17:46 -!- oonbotti has joined. 19:19:39 -!- oonbotti has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 19:20:20 -!- oonbotti has joined. 19:25:28 -!- oerjan has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 19:27:48 aha, found it in the schedtool package. 19:46:37 -!- ThatOtherPerson has quit (Quit: Leaving). 20:07:50 -!- crazyPussy123333 has joined. 20:16:14 `welcome crazyPussy123333 20:16:19 crazyPussy123333: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) 20:19:22 crazyPussy123333: can you confirm that you are indeed an insane feline? 20:19:42 Or perhaps a large number of said maladjusted mammals 20:22:41 -!- crazyPussy123333 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 20:23:50 bye crazypuss 20:29:51 -!- Saizan has left. 20:36:09 by saizan too? 20:36:24 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 20:36:44 -!- metasepia has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 20:37:06 bye augur, bye my bot! 20:37:08 bye me! 20:37:10 -!- boily has quit (Quit: Poulet!). 20:40:07 -!- crazyPussy123949 has joined. 20:45:01 -!- crazyPussy123949 has quit (Excess Flood). 20:46:20 -!- crazyPussy123315 has joined. 20:48:11 -!- crazyPussy123315 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 20:51:37 -!- augur has joined. 20:52:22 -!- dudeForExample85 has joined. 20:55:41 `welcome dudeForExample85 20:55:43 dudeForExample85: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) 20:59:59 -!- john_metcalf has joined. 21:00:01 Hi :-) 21:00:28 `welcome john_metcalf 21:00:30 john_metcalf: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) 21:00:40 So who's an expert at finding stuff that's hidden away somewhere on the net? 21:01:03 how expert/hidden/somewhere are we talking here 21:02:41 I'm looking for Jintori. It's a Japanese two-dimensional programming language from the late eighties or early nineties. Used for a two dimensional programming game of the same name. 21:07:51 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 21:10:42 fizzie's good at finding random shit on the internet 21:11:00 -!- sebbu2 has joined. 21:11:41 -!- sebbu2 has quit (Changing host). 21:11:41 -!- sebbu2 has joined. 21:12:06 john_metcalf: like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnage_Heart ? 21:12:09 maybe this is relevant: http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ja&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=sv&ie=UTF-8&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Ftech-tokyo.com%2F%3Fp%3D4147 21:12:53 -!- sebbu has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 21:13:17 -!- Taneb has quit (Quit: Leaving). 21:14:11 -!- sebbu2 has changed nick to sebbu. 21:14:50 Hm, probably not related 21:15:53 * FireFly wonders how many computer games called Jintori controlled by a specialised programming language there are 21:18:53 That's not the one... 21:19:21 Hm 21:19:46 I have a possible filename, Jintori.2.01.tar 21:20:58 I found a post that mentions a "Core Wars-like game" called Jintori, in which programs compute in two-dimensional space 21:24:19 That's it :-) 21:25:08 https://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.corewar/msg/1996dfe8c5903977?dmode=source this here contains some source code 21:25:11 but it's cut off 21:25:31 er wait, maybe those are just file separators 21:26:00 I think that's just a patch. 21:26:06 -!- dudeForExample85 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 21:26:22 Oh 21:26:33 I've tried an Archie search... Not sure if it's worth a Gopher search? 21:30:02 I've found an EXE :-) 21:30:14 No manual, source or programs 21:31:21 -!- sirdancealot has joined. 21:31:40 At least I assume it's the correct EXE. It kills DosBox :-( Found it here http://www.vector.co.jp/soft/dl/dos/game/se002172.html 21:32:43 Vorpal: you like optimising PNGs, right? 21:33:42 john_metcalf: I'd be pretty surprised if that works well in common DOS installs. 21:38:14 Given the age, it's probably not for PC-compatibles. 21:41:23 -!- mnoqy has quit (Quit: hello). 21:42:29 Hell, could plausibly be for the MSX. 21:43:10 Ah, looked it up. 21:43:28 It's for PC-98 MS-DOS. 21:43:44 You're gonna need an actual PC-98 emulator; DOSBox won't work. 21:43:54 * john_metcalf searches for one... 21:44:22 (PC-98 is an x86 based platform that was popular in Japan in the 80s. It was *not* IBM compatible, but it did use MS-DOS.) 21:44:57 80s? I always thought 98 meant 1998 21:45:06 No, it shipped in 1982. 21:45:21 Up until '92. 21:45:34 Windows 95 is what finally killed it, because 95 didn't run on a PC-98. 21:48:00 wikipedia claims 1982..2000 21:51:18 http://www.pc-9800.net/db_98/data/img/pc-9821ra43_l.jpg 22:01:24 -!- holierThanThou has joined. 22:03:46 -!- bengt_ has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 22:03:52 -!- holierThanThou has left. 22:05:50 -!- bengt_ has joined. 22:06:42 Hmm 22:21:23 -!- sebbu has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 22:21:47 -!- sebbu has joined. 22:22:26 -!- sebbu has quit (Changing host). 22:22:26 -!- sebbu has joined. 22:23:00 so someone ported MS-DOS to this platform? 22:24:05 presumably it was "compatible enough" to run MS-DOS or something? 22:24:32 No, it had a custom build of MS-DOS. 22:25:06 don't a lot of DOS programs use PC BIOS features directly rather than going through DOS for everything? 22:25:11 Yes. 22:25:12 i imagine those wouldn't work well 22:25:16 did they have an emulation layer for that? 22:25:20 PC-98 stuff used the PC-98 BIOS instead. 22:25:21 Nope! 22:27:28 -!- DHeadshot has joined. 22:36:34 -!- nooodl^ has joined. 22:41:31 hey doesnt practically everyone here come from France?? because I'm in Paris riiight now 22:42:49 I thought it was Hexham that everyone was from 22:43:28 nooodl^ is Planar there? He's from France... 22:43:36 it's finland or hexham 22:43:55 i think we have like two french people?? plus boily who is fake french 22:45:14 Have you bumped into Fabrice Bellard yet? He's probably lurking nearby... 22:49:56 I'm the token canehdian 22:50:39 isn't that boily 22:50:48 boily's canehdian? 22:50:53 boily's fake french 22:50:57 oh 22:55:08 -!- Lymia has joined. 22:55:08 -!- Lymia has quit (Changing host). 22:55:09 -!- Lymia has joined. 23:02:53 -!- copumpkin has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 23:03:13 who's fabrice bellard 23:03:26 ffmpeg 23:03:32 -!- copumpkin has joined. 23:03:36 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabrice_Bellard I think? 23:03:40 oh 23:03:41 that dude 23:03:46 qemu dude™ 23:04:00 i think i need to get rid of my ™ key it's too addictive 23:04:04 jslinux dude too 23:05:32 lzexe dude! 23:06:06 http://www0.us.ioccc.org/2001/bellard.c oh my gosh @_@ he did this 23:06:08 http://www0.us.ioccc.org/2001/bellard.hint 23:06:23 he submitted a c compiler to the ioccc 23:06:27 in 3 kilobytes 23:06:37 that compiler later turned into tcc 23:06:50 which was then used to make a linux bootloader that actually compiled the kernel from scratch every time you booted it up 23:06:55 (in <20 seconds) 23:06:57 O__O 23:07:26 why would you want to do that 23:07:50 Bike: because it's there 23:08:17 bellard seems a very "Because it's there" type of person 23:08:23 "In 2011, he created a minimal PC emulator written in pure JavaScript" 23:09:05 (I wonder why his compiler won 'best abuse of rules' though?) 23:10:09 huh, good question. it doesn't seem to be "tricksy" in itself 23:11:05 oh hey, David Madore (of Unlambda) fame was one of the winners of last IOCCC 23:11:09 *Unlambda fame) 23:11:16 also tromp__ I see 23:14:54 Y'know, I've been kinda curious about how bad a PC emulator would *be* to write if you aren't particularly performance-minded. 23:15:46 it's probably still pretty tricky? like it says he had to write an interrupt controller, interrupt timer and stuff 23:15:52 not even just a CPU, like, the CPU alone isn't enough 23:16:56 http://bellard.org/jslinux/tech.html ah 23:17:02 wow it even emulates an IDE hard drive 23:17:17 it has an MMU too O_O 23:18:09 Amused it's using a UART for output. 23:18:18 Though I guess it makes sense. VGA is tricky, even in text mode. 23:18:55 And really quite unsurprised he didn't emulate the FPU. 23:25:45 -!- c00kiemon5ter has joined. 23:43:48 -!- madbr has joined. 23:48:54 -!- nooga_ has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 23:54:29 -!- GOMADWarrior has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 23:56:04 -!- augur has joined. 23:58:18 Bike, maybe other people: http://www.valvesoftware.com/publications/2009/ai_systems_of_l4d_mike_booth.pdf this is really really cool and interesting