< 1365655244 33076 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81ee55.pool.mediaWays.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1365656074 56780 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :▃ ▃ ▅▄▁▂▃ ▃ ▅▄▅▅▃ ▃ ▅▄▁▂▃ ▃ ▅▄▅▅▃ ▃ ▅▄▁▂▃ ▃ ▅▄▅▅▃ ▃ ▅▄▁▂▃ ▃ ▅▄▅ ▆▆▆▆▅▄▄▄▃ ▃ ▃ ▁▂▇▇▇▇▆▅▅▅▃ ▃ ▃ ▁▂▆▆▆▆▅▄▄▄▃ ▃ ▃ ▁▂▇▇▇▇▆▅▅▅▃ ▃ ▃ ▃ < 1365656083 237881 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :r u ok < 1365656086 611784 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1365656100 162677 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you? < 1365656105 458729 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i'm alright < 1365656107 495243 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1365656126 87524 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey everyone < 1365656129 524966 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hichaf < 1365656129 719603 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is an interesting language. do you call it amplitude? < 1365656133 416931 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not so al right.. < 1365656137 996295 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no < 1365656142 437626 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1365656157 747516 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should see a doctor < 1365656161 625208 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what kind < 1365656175 302799 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :philosophy?? < 1365656180 605459 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what kinds are there < 1365656194 205866 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nephrologist, opthamologist, gastroenterologist < 1365656794 795099 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Psychologist? < 1365656859 119457 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: what kind of not all right, i meant, also < 1365657092 532660 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365657106 908149 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Entomologist? < 1365657164 650894 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i mostly meant to break up the monotony of social interaction "r u ok" "yep you?" "yeah i'm alright" "cool" with something else. think of it as an art piece < 1365657203 50415 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but as it happens i'm also kind of sick recently, but it's getting better mostly, i think < 1365657222 846965 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :famous last words < 1365657237 583752 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i have tuberculosis < 1365657249 752447 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hear that's up and coming < 1365657310 555366 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would suck < 1365657330 408676 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably lupus. < 1365657345 779730 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably. < 1365657477 619182 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run python -c $'import math,encodings\nb=" "+"".join(unichr(c) for c in range(9601,9609))\ns=""\nfor i in range(0,100):\n x=i/5.\n y=math.sin(x)+math.sin(3*x)+math.sin(5*x)\n s+=b[int((y/6+0.5)*len(b))]\nprint encodings.utf_8.encode(s)[0]' < 1365657478 949469 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​▄▆▇▇▅▄▄▅▅▅▄▄▅▇▇▆▃▁▁▂▃▄▃▃▃▃▄▄▂▁▁▃▆▇▇▆▄▄▅▅▅▄▄▅▆▇▇▄▂▁▁▃▄▄▃▃▃▄▄▃▁▁▂▄▇▇▆▅▄▄▅▅▅▄▄▆▇▇▅▃▁▁▂▄▄▃▃▃▃▄▃▂▁▁▃▆▇▇▅▄ < 1365657540 633741 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cute < 1365657575 869340 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"cute" -- ⓒ Ⓒ © monqy < 1365657579 932053 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now make it do a square wave. < 1365657585 815816 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Proper-like. < 1365657734 260246 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run python -c $'import math,encodings\nb=" "+"".join(unichr(c) for c in range(9601,9609))\ns=""\nfor i in range(0,100):\n x,y=i/5.,0\n for j in range(1,99,2):\n y+=math.sin(j*x)/j\n s+=b[int((y/6+0.5)*len(b))]\nprint encodings.utf_8.encode(s)[0]' < 1365657735 266107 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: It looks like OS X v. latest turned off the cups web UI by default. < 1365657735 829214 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​▄▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▃▃▃▃▃▃▃▃▃▃▃▃▃▃▃▃▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▃▃▃▃▃▃▃▃▃▃▃▃▃▃▃▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▃▃▃▃▃▃▃▃▃▃▃▃▃▃▃▃▅▅▅▅▅ < 1365657810 277412 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, given the sampling rate I think the one harmonic there actually is the whole square wave. < 1365658081 158666 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1365658110 517686 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: good for them < 1365658118 219820 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: nice < 1365659971 163540 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1365660061 176819 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1365660405 472868 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1365660505 450062 :shachaf_!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1365660510 735077 :shachaf_!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com QUIT :Changing host < 1365660510 970038 :shachaf_!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf JOIN :#esoteric < 1365660518 272025 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1365660522 851081 :shachaf_!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf NICK :shachaf < 1365660603 73686 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1365660793 49184 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1365660992 50981 :sivoais!~zaki@unaffiliated/sivoais QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1365661091 909437 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1365661099 897024 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1365661145 725645 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :const unsigned long main[] = { 0xc7e68948c7ffff31, 0x24310f00b195e206, 0xd231f88902460001, 0xe9eb050f03b2 }; < 1365661217 684982 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: main is usually a function < 1365661223 413148 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this is like when they say the title of the film in the film) < 1365661242 985967 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that meant to have an rdtsc? < 1365661259 925283 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, wait. < 1365661268 889056 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it work shachaf < 1365661282 170134 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Works here < 1365661284 122096 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know? < 1365661316 26762 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should do the same thing as perl -e 'while(1){print"\xe2\x95".("\xb1","\xb2")[rand 2]}' < 1365661331 381850 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does < 1365661357 555116 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems very biased. < 1365661383 609073 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :As in, mostly /s, with occasional chunks of mixed /s and \s. < 1365661399 61014 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i'm blind now, help < 1365661426 382999 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even though rdtsc has an 'r' in it, I don't think it returns random numbers. < 1365661568 812853 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::< < 1365661576 909287 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems good enough here < 1365661593 71216 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we do a syscall between rdtsc calls < 1365661621 50632 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even so. < 1365661650 143064 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :strange < 1365661664 420601 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How small can you make a Linux "yes" executable? < 1365661666 848318 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :using the timing between things to generate random bits? < 1365661742 758357 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: do you mean the size of the whole ELF file, or do you allow some other exe formats, or do you mean only the instructions < 1365661745 628248 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the former, see http://www.muppetlabs.com/~breadbox/software/tiny/teensy.html < 1365661749 671638 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: yeah < 1365661755 715544 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oooh. that's a cool trick < 1365661760 223453 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/JBJW -- sure, that *could* be the output of an unbiased rng, but on this box it seems to have a larger than expected number of runs of alternating 0s and 1s. < 1365661773 235772 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know. < 1365661779 495552 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, let's say just the size of the instructions. < 1365661809 279509 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: maybe for better randomness you could, like, sum a bunch of rdtsc results and pick the low bit? < 1365661812 114492 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: that's interesting < 1365661819 86710 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :er i meant < 1365661821 633524 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: that's interesting < 1365661825 983837 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :SORRY FIORA < 1365661831 764376 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :-_- < 1365661831 958607 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: yeah, I wanted to keep it as small as possible though :) < 1365661843 469121 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what other terrible things you could use for entropy < 1365661850 282557 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: mooz's Befunge-93 interpreter on the TI-86 used the Z80's R register (some sort of a RAM refresh counter) to implement ?. < 1365661878 150644 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that was a common ti calc trick < 1365661885 651490 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"timing between things" in general is I guess what mostly feeds /dev/random's pool. < 1365661909 984030 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the galaksija uses the R register as a framebuffer pointer during the video routine < 1365661927 286704 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and just executes garbage instructions (which also happen to be string literals for the BASIC interpreter, gotta use those bytes!) < 1365661948 233456 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :honestly I'm happy if my maze program gives different, weird results on different machines < 1365661967 324370 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Hunt the Wumpus Befunge port quite often ended up having a long run of being unable to create the dungeon. < 1365661972 894623 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if it makes people go blind? < 1365662057 150605 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hope not < 1365662060 220736 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems p. unlikely < 1365662069 275802 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codepad.org/FghOek0i am I missing something and not using the least significant bit? < 1365662112 400817 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe some other bit is actually more random < 1365662140 790297 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm if you have invariant TSC and your CPU clocks down to an fraction of half of the top speed < 1365662143 674568 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :an fraction < 1365662155 42821 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you see where i'm going with this < 1365662160 745408 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :would that affect the randomness of the low bit? < 1365662179 422767 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :movl $0xb195e2, (%rsi) what does this do o_O < 1365662200 118205 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :stores that 32-bit constant at the address in %rsi < 1365662203 310362 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably related to that codepoint it prints out? < 1365662207 151130 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those aren't /s. < 1365662208 983713 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but like, why? < 1365662216 480022 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the UTF-8 encoding for one of the characters < 1365662219 971258 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooooh < 1365662220 787509 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :backwards < 1365662225 852448 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, I missed the context of your question < 1365662238 639082 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if rdtscp would be better. < 1365662240 449441 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wasn't sure if you were objecting to AT&T syntax (which would be p. valid) < 1365662247 481634 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh! sorry, I wasn't < 1365662257 845320 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm more used to AT&T syntax than Intel syntax. :-( < 1365662261 219570 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :does that make me a bad person < 1365662289 404769 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :me too :/ < 1365662308 214142 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :geez having more experience with one syntax than another doesn't make you a bad person... XD < 1365662346 749379 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway time to tweet this (that's the cool way to distribute c programs) and then sleep < 1365662405 361999 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :goodnighties < 1365662428 304759 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`gccrun 'const unsigned long main[] = { 0xc7e68948c7ffff31, 0x24310f00b195e206, 0xd231f88902460001, 0xe9eb050f03b2 };' < 1365662436 309928 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: gccrun: not found < 1365662453 857301 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo 'const unsigned long main[] = { 0xc7e68948c7ffff31, 0x24310f00b195e206, 0xd231f88902460001, 0xe9eb050f03b2 };' > maze.c && gcc -o maze maze.c && ./maze < 1365662465 282587 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​╱╲╱╲╲╱╱╱╲╲╱╲╱╱╲╱╱╲╲╲╲╱╱╱╱╱╲╲╱╲╱╲╱╲╱╲╱╲╲╱╱╱╲╲╱╱╲╱╲╱╱╲╲╱╱╱╲╱╲╲╲╱╲╱╱╱╱╲╲╱╲╲╲╱╲╲╲╱╲╲╱╱╲╱╱╱╱╲╱╱╲╱╲╲╲╲╱╲╲╲╱╲╱╱╲╲╲╱╱╲╱╲╱╱╱� < 1365662466 292540 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. there's no nice way to change rdtsc to rdstcp, they're different sizes :< < 1365662472 15287 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :welp < 1365662475 759106 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesome < 1365662483 342585 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :new favorite program < 1365662484 93644 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :0F31 -> 0F01F9 /7 < 1365662521 514540 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: rdtscp because of the fence? < 1365662546 865556 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was wondering if maybe rdtscp might give better results? I'm not sure < 1365662554 394618 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good night all :) < 1365662572 476712 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1365662583 173035 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: ♞ < 1365662589 806881 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: I tried rdtscp and it also has the / bias. < 1365662659 629685 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh. is / the 0 or the 1? < 1365662691 171221 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm. maybe the parity of the result might be more random than the lowest bit? < 1365662734 163666 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's super weird though, I'd be really curious about why that's happening < 1365662752 113137 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: what's this "olsner.troll.moed"? < 1365662779 638834 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Referring to that quote, I assume. < 1365662854 509119 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony JOIN :#esoteric < 1365662902 473196 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I get what looks like good randomness looking at bit 2 (i.e. inserting shr $2, %eax after the rdtsc) < 1365662932 98213 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I shift by one I still get long runs of /, and in addition I get some long runs of \ < 1365662997 498295 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I get all sorts of other patterns shifting by other amounts. < 1365663134 88663 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about popcnt(rdtsc)&1? < 1365663139 774209 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does that work maybe? < 1365663193 305033 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I have to figure out how to popcnt. < 1365663237 719818 :fftw!~fastest@la-pinta.la.net.ua QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1365663250 329896 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess the loop usually takes a not-completely-random number of cycles to run < 1365663296 749452 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I can just popcnt %eax, %eax? < 1365663306 388664 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That seems to work too. < 1365663329 173027 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: With a syscall in the middle? < 1365663352 450451 :sivoais!~zaki@unaffiliated/sivoais JOIN :#esoteric < 1365663482 881276 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, that mixes it up a little, or maybe it usually goes through a fast path that just moves a byte into a buffer and moves on < 1365663711 339286 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay for x86 extensions having every instruction ever :3 < 1365663776 946000 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see leading zero count but not trailing zero count?! < 1365663797 646637 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, even LZCNT is AMD-only. < 1365663933 690417 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that's bsr. < 1365663984 702826 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should learn how x86 instruction encoding works. < 1365664041 881767 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are probably better things to waste brainspace on :) < 1365664075 852860 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsr/bsf can do lzcnt/tzcnt basically? < 1365664091 694460 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the main difference with the actual lzcnt/tzcnt instructions is they have defined behavior if the input is zero, I think < 1365664103 50814 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, I didn't know and/or forgot about bsr. < 1365664113 441295 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :LZCNT was added by AMD in SSE4a, TZCNT is added in BMI1 (which also nicely includes lzcnt for consistency, so now amd/intel are equal again) < 1365664115 843150 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's always the thing with de Bruijn indices. < 1365664121 748595 :fftw!~fastest@la-pinta.la.net.ua JOIN :#esoteric < 1365664132 57207 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :tzcnt has actually a really fun weird property < 1365664133 463128 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er, de Bruijn sequences. < 1365664138 688538 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :its opcode is actually equal to "rep bsf" < 1365664224 825949 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can use tzcnt in code that runs on older cpus, and it will execute fine as long as your code doesn't rely on the specifics of tzcnt (like defined behavior at 0) < 1365664239 511298 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it makes valgrind choke though XD < 1365664271 316093 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So does VEX < 1365664280 98290 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or at least it did when I tried it. < 1365664317 496833 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, but like, "rep bsf" was a thing that worked on earlier cpus, so it's not like it's actually a new instruction < 1365664320 808406 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least sort of? < 1365664321 463625 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's weird < 1365664381 181131 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, Intel has never cared about backwards compatibility. < 1365664408 32480 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right, LZCNT does the same thing. LZCNT is "rep bsr" < 1365664413 989100 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you still supposed to do rep ret? < 1365664414 319729 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that one is deceptive and evil < 1365664428 165972 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because, like. "tzcnt" gives the same result as "bsf", I think, when the input isn't 0 < 1365664446 481307 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but "lzcnt" gives the number of leading zeroes, while "bsr" gives (bits in register) - (number of leading zeroes), I think < 1365664449 300830 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure bsf also has defined behaviour on zero (ZF = 1, undefined value in the register), it just might not be behaviour you'd like. < 1365664483 20273 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :GCC compiles ffs(i) into bsf + cmovz. < 1365664484 260523 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. yeah, you're right < 1365664498 883639 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the result that's undefined not behavior, sorry < 1365664515 398843 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And rep ret isn't in the latest AMD optimilization manual any more. < 1365664557 130684 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And one manual in-between had replaced it with a three-byte encoding of "ret 0", anyway. < 1365664572 834702 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I suppose perhaps because that's more legal?) < 1365664593 865881 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the x86 prefixes have always kind of confused me >_< < 1365664625 237634 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.112 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365664630 794227 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :are x86 instructions monoids < 1365664678 184665 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should `? monoid say "Monoids are just x86 instructions" instead? < 1365664722 99050 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? monoids < 1365664726 140615 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monoids are the easy version of categories. < 1365664727 299248 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? monoid < 1365664729 141904 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monoids are just categories with a single object. < 1365664733 566879 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh. < 1365664773 435761 :ousia!~ousia@gateway/tor-sasl/ousia QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1365664778 161231 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of BMI, pdep and pext look like really really cool instructions < 1365664787 467288 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're like, that weird kind of instruction that -looks- raelly cool, but I can't figure out how to use for anything <.< < 1365664831 119918 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh no, instructions that aren't in my intel\ combined\ manual.pdf < 1365664835 283123 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do I need to download a new one? < 1365664842 783076 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://download.intel.com/products/processor/manual/325383.pdf < 1365664855 728327 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the manual doesn't include unreleased instructions (stuff that's in the SDE, but not in released CPUs) < 1365664865 512946 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I'm guessing when haswell comes out they'll add in the avx2 stuff and all that? < 1365664873 938835 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That file is 6MB! < 1365664878 207241 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :moving it from one pdf to another I guess < 1365664882 626098 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait no that's the wrong one >_< < 1365664885 658168 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://download-software.intel.com/sites/default/files/m/8/a/1/8/4/36945-319433-011.pdf < 1365664892 547490 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, I linked to the regular instruction reference -_- < 1365664897 3892 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Better. Only 2MB. < 1365664900 803511 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can probably manage 2MB. < 1365664921 460842 :btiffin!~btiffin@CPE002369b7648c-CM0014e88ec3b0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1365664934 925107 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There should be a law where you have to expand all the acronyms you use. < 1365664944 537907 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll call it the AEL[Acronym Expansion Law]. < 1365664965 940995 :btiffin!~btiffin@CPE002369b7648c-CM0014e88ec3b0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :glwt < 1365664972 751350 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1365664981 863620 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :SDE -> Software Development Emulator < 1365664996 404079 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a super cool thing where you just go sde -- ./program args and it'll magically run the program as if it had all the instructions < 1365665006 728223 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :with dynamic recompilation and magic < 1365665030 919633 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds like fun. < 1365665045 673133 :btiffin!~btiffin@CPE002369b7648c-CM0014e88ec3b0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: sorry, joking. gtwt, good luck with that < 1365665085 502846 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: I'm sure pdep and pext will be well-received by the thousands (if not millions) INTERCAL implementers, for implementing SELECT and MINGLE. < 1365665090 763935 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :XDDDDD < 1365665099 203598 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do those do that pdep/pext will help with? < 1365665120 480266 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :SELECT *is* pext, I think. < 1365665134 360892 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wow < 1365665140 8731 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe bit order details are different, I don't know. < 1365665182 80167 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it takes bits from X that correspond to set bits in Y, and packs them to the low end. < 1365665220 625124 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And MINGLE interleaves bits from X and Y, in alternating order, which sounds like something pdep could help with. < 1365665230 243871 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(pdep+pdep+or, or something.) < 1365665336 464388 :btiffin!~btiffin@CPE002369b7648c-CM0014e88ec3b0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :curious newbie question; esolang being what it is, ..., what development platforms are people here using for work? < 1365665370 100840 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :AIUI, they're the building blocks of almost all INTERCAL maths, since they're the only binary operators; AND, OR and XOR are all unary. < 1365665388 512107 :btiffin!~btiffin@CPE002369b7648c-CM0014e88ec3b0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm building GNU/Linux based machines for placement in hotel rooms. bash, python, php, c, c++, umm, you know Linux land < 1365665410 973139 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://palms.princeton.edu/system/files/IEEE_TC09_NewBasisForShifters.pdf oh fizzie here was the paper I found the other day < 1365665416 129988 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's apparently related to the pdep/pext stuff < 1365665450 781138 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's basically a new type of shifty-bit circuit that's a little higher latency but can do all kinds of crazy arbitrary bit shuffles (like pdep, pext, and stuff) with fewer gates than a normal shift unit < 1365665473 47376 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The unary bitwise ops apply on every two consecutive bits, so if you want regular A&B, you need to mingle A and B, then perform the operation, then SELECT every other bit.) < 1365665484 186172 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the author's done a lot of stuff related to stuff like this, she's really awesome < 1365665498 304618 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and is apparently a wonderful simd dork < 1365665520 1702 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"SIMD dork" is a nice term. < 1365665537 925739 :rodgort!~rodgort@li125-242.members.linode.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1365665594 220417 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that is an accurate description of me -_- < 1365665633 568956 :rodgort!~rodgort@li125-242.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1365665701 527353 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :As for the at-work question, I suppose most of the code our speech group is involved in is in C++ (dirty parts of the recognizer), MATLAB (research code), Python (glue) and Perl (more glue). < 1365665779 221550 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Some of the Perl might not be entirely glue.) < 1365665874 246291 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.112 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1365665934 744338 :btiffin!~btiffin@CPE002369b7648c-CM0014e88ec3b0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: thanks < 1365665941 280588 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess the pdep/pext stuff might be squee material for people forced to work with stuff like RGB565 < 1365665951 537140 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or other weird bit-level-packed data formats < 1365665997 145330 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bit permutations for crypto, perhaps? < 1365666017 501803 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there formats that do that nowadays? < 1365666030 412260 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember reading that it was a big deal in DES, but that, well, this kind of comes a little late for that XD < 1365666032 735163 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really know about modern algorithms. < 1365666086 183631 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know rotates are still a big thing in hashes and stuff < 1365666097 3670 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and AES uses table lookups to do GF(2) multiplication on bytes I think < 1365666102 538064 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a feeling AES is quite byte-oriented. < 1365666104 795405 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something like that (sboxes or something) < 1365666121 129741 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you can apparently do those with pshufb (there's actually a really cool paper on timing-attack-immune pshufb AES) < 1365666130 3851 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and of course now it's all sorta silly because of AES-NI < 1365666136 878536 :ousia!~ousia@gateway/tor-sasl/ousia JOIN :#esoteric < 1365666251 740712 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://shiftleft.org/papers/vector_aes/vector_aes.pdf oh yay here it is < 1365666491 59338 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice name < 1365666581 695748 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1365666620 573053 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365666640 672343 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shiftleft < 1365666661 199653 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: sleep < 1365667492 470664 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION yawns
< 1365667502 828146 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1365667519 598878 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365667782 791428 :btiffin!~btiffin@CPE002369b7648c-CM0014e88ec3b0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PART :#esoteric < 1365668073 801692 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.183.120 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365668159 581079 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365668410 578791 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.183.120 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1365669159 263107 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1365670368 67648 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist < 1365670369 762420 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1365670721 986998 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1365671131 601797 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365671241 855212 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a term for when you have two sets, and one of them is a subset of the other, but you don't know which? < 1365671316 952437 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the smaller one's got to be the subset, right? < 1365671449 811684 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: Well, they might be the same sizze. < 1365671454 542174 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/z// < 1365671588 56395 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if they're equal it still counts as a subset < 1365671610 635171 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I don't think there is a term for uncertain subsetyness < 1365671634 202624 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: It's called two-sets-and-one's-a-subset-but-I-dunno-which, HTH, HAND. < 1365671676 84402 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...right < 1365671694 115385 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, you might not know the size, or they might be infinite? < 1365671793 202007 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oooh < 1365671796 585030 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that makes sense < 1365671903 61676 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The reason I want to know this is kinda really stupid < 1365671912 280172 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it about ixset < 1365671917 99498 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1365671926 863063 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it about monoids < 1365671929 587810 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monoids are easy < 1365671930 958617 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...No < 1365671935 953253 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's about Venn diagrams < 1365671967 304939 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it about hugs < 1365671968 950644 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hug Taneb < 1365671969 373908 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://hackage.haskell.org/trac/ghc/newticket?type=bug < 1365671974 398247 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hugs? < 1365671990 435434 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to be able to describe annuloid (?) Venn diagrams < 1365671996 920127 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, tender embraces between two people < 1365672016 505936 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: what i do with my tender is none of your business < 1365672016 777520 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-18-72.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1365672053 872546 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-18-72.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1365672054 67758 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1365672103 726290 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you could use some sort of a symbol that's a combination of ⊆ and ⊇ -- a bit like ≶ but with the dash too -- to describe your situation. There's for example ⫓, ⫔, ⫗ or ⫘. < 1365672120 231708 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie++ < 1365672183 446091 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1365672215 902338 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-18-72.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1365672251 345089 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-18-72.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1365672251 539434 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1365672254 757802 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, there's ⋚, I just missed it. < 1365672275 323157 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wonder how much use the "less than, equal to or greater than" operator gets. < 1365672318 645719 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"it's probably a real number" < 1365672319 599320 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1365672322 120992 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"that's all we know" < 1365672375 760029 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ≻ ⊱ oh no it's curling up < 1365672375 995508 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval: recoverEncode: invalid argument (invalid character) < 1365672383 633663 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: That's not what I meant. < 1365672436 98682 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Unicode: the best thing for people on sick leave?) < 1365672685 782602 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: presumably ⋚ is the unicody way of writing <=> from Perl < 1365672841 70215 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :As usual, there's both ⋚ and ⋛. (If they do have the semantics of the Perl <=>, perhaps the other one could be reversed.) < 1365672883 558461 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would *hope* that ⋚ is a relation. < 1365672888 442680 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Which <=> isn't.) < 1365672976 711941 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(⋚) :: Ord a => a -> a -> Bool; _ ⋚ _ = True < 1365672985 938270 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :D had <>= which basically meant that both sides can't be NaN, IIRC < 1365673008 102296 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not "x <>= y" ---> "x = x <> y"? < 1365673022 153137 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :D has monoids? < 1365673026 379460 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :x !<>= x was equivalent to isnan(x) < 1365673059 239711 :carado!~carado@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:221:63ff:fe9a:3747 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365673295 751948 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let (<=>) = ((pred . fromEnum) .) . compare in zipWith (<=>) [1,2,3] [3,2,1] < 1365673297 620225 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [-1,0,1] < 1365673299 517041 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay. < 1365673410 836911 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let (<=>) = (signum.).(-) in zipWith (<=>) [1,2,3] [3,2,1] < 1365673412 636110 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [-1,0,1] < 1365673489 525279 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let (<=>) = (signum.).(-) in maxBound <=> (-1 :: Int) < 1365673491 50121 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : -1 < 1365673611 156661 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still needs -2 for isNaN anyway < 1365673667 248712 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just posted to a Haskell mailing list about how people weren't giving NaNs the respect they deserve. < 1365674186 835828 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.183.120 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365674244 788399 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.183.120 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1365674383 513303 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Unasked as in unspoken. < 1365674390 883514 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could be an acting acting teacher. < 1365674394 56799 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or student. < 1365674420 415645 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have considered it, oddly < 1365674426 584198 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which? < 1365674436 405824 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Being an acting student < 1365674447 788924 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why did you consider it oddly? < 1365674469 1010 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I sort of did a headstand then asked all my friends whether I should < 1365674489 480813 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION glances up, hugs Taneb
< 1365674492 813372 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about your #esoteric pals? < 1365674503 407392 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora is your friend too! < 1365674514 763861 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hadn't met Fiora back then < 1365674520 498996 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I was in a hurry, with no time to IRC < 1365674523 189062 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :None of us had. < 1365674544 425483 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help < 1365674544 690647 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch " downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1365674560 181095 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1365674570 217510 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? d-modules < 1365674572 47221 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :D-modules are just modules over the ring of differential operators. Taneb invented them. < 1365674582 172310 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that true? < 1365674596 333040 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least half of it is < 1365674604 515384 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps even three quarters. < 1365674623 427277 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You invented them, and they're modules over the ring of differential operators, but they're unjust? < 1365674634 480272 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(closer to 9/16) < 1365674638 11731 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn justice < 1365674638 885086 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*** "justice" wn "WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)" < 1365674639 81613 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :justice < 1365674639 81824 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : n 1: the quality of being just or fair [syn: {justice}, < 1365674639 81936 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : {justness}] [ant: {injustice}, {unjustness}] < 1365674639 82055 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2: judgment involved in the determination of rights and the < 1365674640 813659 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :[7 @more lines] < 1365674642 636056 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@more < 1365674643 134637 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : assignment of rewards and punishments < 1365674644 839415 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 3: a public official authorized to decide questions brought < 1365674646 905428 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : before a court of justice [syn: {judge}, {justice}, {jurist}] < 1365674647 867833 :jix!~jix@jixco.de QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1365674648 926585 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 4: the United States federal department responsible for < 1365674650 967761 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : enforcing federal laws (including the enforcement of all < 1365674652 843552 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : civil rights legislation); created in 1870 [syn: {Department < 1365674654 624672 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? justice < 1365674655 314785 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : of Justice}, {Justice Department}, {Justice}, {DoJ}] < 1365674658 284734 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :justice? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1365674669 703668 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Justice is just behavior or treatment. < 1365674674 832291 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1365674676 669708 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll just go with Google define:'s definition. < 1365674681 283786 :jix!~jix@jixco.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1365674703 606840 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Justice is just an endofunctor in the category of morals < 1365674710 826628 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes justice is just ice. < 1365674730 922018 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes monoids are just mono ids < 1365674736 805740 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365674737 104 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 QUIT :Client Quit < 1365674759 163416 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`?hh conspirabiology < 1365674762 222611 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :cohnspihrahbiohlohgy ihs whehre mohth cohlouhrihngs fohrm a doht mahtrihx dihsplay to sehnd you suhblihmihnahl mehssahgehs. < 1365674802 512612 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, D-modules are just modules over rings of differential operators, and someone called M. G. M. van Doorn wrote an article on them which is cited by Wikipedia < 1365674821 307653 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`?hh siberia < 1365674823 371664 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sihbehria ihs the cahpihtahl ohf Fihnlahnd. Iht's whehre the Fiehlds Mehdahl wahs fihrst syhnthehsihsehd. < 1365674838 760550 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? sgeolang < 1365674840 150273 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeolang currently is either J or Io. < 1365674842 60172 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, outdated. < 1365674851 93969 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? monqy < 1365674859 385907 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The friendship monqy is an ancient Chinese mystery; ask itidus21 for details. < 1365674871 882354 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask monqy i love friendship monqy !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! < 1365674872 490402 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1365674901 601013 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? comonad < 1365674903 273943 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Comonads are just monads in the dual category. < 1365674904 482350 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? comonads < 1365674906 293429 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Comonads are just monads in the dual category. < 1365674917 886291 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What! < 1365674922 13595 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a pluraliszer in `? < 1365674926 611165 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.183.120 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365674930 886097 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? gazspacho < 1365674932 253999 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :gazspacho is a hungarian szoup, tradizsonally szerved cold for hot szummer dayz < 1365674938 969520 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ngevds < 1365674943 901682 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ngevd is a fake wisdom entry. `? ngevd is special-cased in bin/?. leave this file alone Phantom_Hoover‼ < 1365674950 404045 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa dude < 1365674951 804256 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: < 1365674955 87446 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb++ < 1365674958 43970 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :brilliant < 1365674961 312183 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Fiora < 1365674963 289741 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora is a freakin' vriskapologist. < 1365674983 695276 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1365674985 771376 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​¯\(°_o)/¯ `? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1365675115 728758 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oerjan < 1365675118 605614 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your evil overlord oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also a lying Norwegian. < 1365675129 745321 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cooerjan < 1365675131 327795 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :cooerjan? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1365675136 85499 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? coöerjan < 1365675138 802515 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :coöerjan? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1365675148 765576 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoaoerjan < 1365675267 991848 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :can we please change mine :< < 1365675277 461857 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :gopher it < 1365675287 813085 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Fiora isn't a freakin' vriskapologist. < 1365675291 994692 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1365675303 723751 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Fiora < 1365675305 561372 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora isn't a freakin' vriskapologist. < 1365675311 492362 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Fiora this is a test < 1365675319 553045 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1365675321 547782 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Fiora < 1365675323 94664 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora this is a test < 1365675326 153070 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, cool < 1365675411 407259 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't leave it like that ........................ < 1365675468 430053 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Fiora is half JRPG fangirl, half SIMD dork, and all sucrose. < 1365675473 520957 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1365675508 488045 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow i thought you were fructose :'( < 1365675512 973215 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how disappointing < 1365675639 957770 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but sucrose contains fructose! < 1365675733 448062 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought you were all fructose < 1365675771 647524 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :high Fiora corn syrup < 1365675796 845113 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a vriskapologist anyway? < 1365675826 276037 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Fiora < 1365675836 455972 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora is half JRPG fangirl, half SIMD dork, and all sucrose. < 1365675837 730643 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Fiora is. < 1365675839 493738 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :much better -_- < 1365675865 632274 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: that doesn't answer the question, and might not even be true because she changed it < 1365675890 437068 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: "Vriska" is a character in a comic strip that some people here read. < 1365675894 501602 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah right < 1365675908 792847 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I read some comic strips occasionally, but not that one < 1365675951 89927 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you follow `olist? < 1365675956 16329 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :We can put you on `olist. < 1365675969 494792 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :We can remember it for you wholesale. < 1365675975 759378 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls bin/*list* < 1365675977 734811 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/emptylist \ bin/instalist \ bin/list \ bin/listen \ bin/makelist \ bin/mlist \ bin/olist \ bin/pbflist \ bin/pbflistdeluxe \ bin/slist \ bin/smlist \ bin/testlist < 1365675979 245165 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never set it to that to begin with, it was someone teasing me < 1365675980 406371 :Tod-Autojoined!~Tod@166-70-93-209.ip.xmission.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1365675984 246378 :TodPunk!~Tod@166-70-93-209.ip.xmission.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1365676004 385969 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :We can put you on `pbflist or even on `pbflistdeluxe < 1365676014 226724 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or `smlist. Everyone loves super mega comics. < 1365676024 665848 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I'm not a fan of the `list notification just because I might not be in the channel at the time, so I'm going to check the site anyway < 1365676028 715052 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most of the personal wisdoms might be third-party-set. < 1365676034 459307 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also I often don't want to look at the comics the instant they update < 1365676049 407398 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but rather, when I'm not at work and have some free time < 1365676058 726690 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But what if they update once every few months? < 1365676058 920931 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and have nothing better to do < 1365676063 958124 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you want to check them every day? < 1365676069 386920 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: then I'll likely check once every few years :) < 1365676082 105912 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :With `pbflistdeluxe, you don't need to be in the channel. < 1365676085 367477 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :We get the message to you. < 1365676098 718490 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there /are/ some things that could interestingly do with updates, such as new IOCCC s < 1365676102 974123 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :* IOCCCs < 1365676110 59850 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Feel free to make an ioccclist. < 1365676111 946985 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but we normally put those in the topic because everyone here should theoretically be interested in them < 1365676118 310232 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1365676134 678470 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought the topic was for jokes and off-topic things. < 1365676137 739822 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd like to be put on the elerlist, please. < 1365676141 569713 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :should we put the UCC in the topic, incidentally? it's not an exact fit for the channel, but I imagine many people here would be interested in it < 1365676142 667324 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :For that matter, that's what I thought the channel was for. < 1365676152 247118 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Many people here are. < 1365676162 939046 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But who hasn't heard of it already? < 1365676167 315266 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: well the channel is a community for people with common interests < 1365676189 541887 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it turns out that people who like esolangs generally tend to like various other things too < 1365676269 617823 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net TOPIC #esoteric :Koen_: be a Haskell person. | am i rye? 'course i am! | Underhanded C Contest: http://underhanded.xcott.com/?page_id=5 | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1365676332 174845 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: fwiw, topic notifications moderately indirectly lead to me gaining a lot of money < 1365676336 775284 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so they're not exactly useless < 1365676352 173531 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and nothing prevents them coexisting with random garbage < 1365676387 508438 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: They do? < 1365676395 222843 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How does that work? < 1365676414 557354 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: well, most of the people here are interested in at least one esolang < 1365676418 372995 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :many people in more < 1365676439 115799 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was a toss-up between taking Economics and Drama, and I ended up doing Latin < 1365676445 131703 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yet, we can sustain discussions aout other things for a while with many people participating, and occasionally the occasional person complaining in a passive-aggressive way with everyone else ignoring them < 1365676472 818860 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant the money thing. < 1365676501 756 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: well it was about a competition with prize money offered < 1365676520 229128 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :allegedly a result in computability theory, but it was actually an esoprogamming competition in disguise < 1365676535 611260 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1365676538 926778 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I suspect the reason I won may have been because other people attempting didn't realise it was about esoprogramming) < 1365676558 843078 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What was the goal of the competition? < 1365676586 217240 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :A new kind of computability theory < 1365676644 628202 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: it was the 2,3 machine thing < 1365676671 741353 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you've somehow managed to miss the story, I can go over it again < 1365676679 551466 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah, I know the story < 1365676688 231694 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought you did < 1365676693 460114 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is why I was surprised at your question < 1365676729 121806 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was just imagining something more like the IOCCC or UCC < 1365676761 908700 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1365676802 478500 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did anyone ever come up with a less controversial proof? < 1365676910 216182 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think the proof is the controversial part < 1365676923 550154 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I heard the story at the time but I didn't know it was ais523. < 1365676931 8169 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I probably wasn't in the channel at the time. < 1365676942 595489 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: the controversy is not about the proof itself, but about what it's proving < 1365676961 281956 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right < 1365676967 501435 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I agree with pretty much everyone else that the situation is currently poorly-defined < 1365676993 252890 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and would like to find better definitions, together with a demonstration that the examples in the proof fit that definition, before actually publishing < 1365676998 656953 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :From this information I can estimate your age! Ahahaha! < 1365677004 708040 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, by "example" here I mean the opposite of "counterexample" < 1365677014 676656 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, something that proves the entire theorem just by existing < 1365677016 595171 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i estimate ais523's age at 523 < 1365677026 364116 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than "something added to make it easier to understand" < 1365677035 606680 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd be nice if we had two different words for those concepts < 1365677053 78490 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"countercounter example" < 1365677072 434719 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Uh, we're kind of intuitionists around here... < 1365677092 883973 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :++example; < 1365677093 590944 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: not in general; I rarely find reasons to use intuionistic logic < 1365677098 515916 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :linear logic, otoh, I use all the time < 1365677178 386932 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I have a question for #esoteric < 1365677188 776098 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Intuitionistic logic seems to fit well with a lot of programming things. Maybe they aren't esoteric enough. < 1365677188 971453 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how would you interpret "λf.λx.λx.f(x)(x)"? < 1365677206 48268 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Same as λf.λy.λx.f(x)(x) < 1365677208 791194 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would like to read it as xs referring to the inner one. < 1365677229 743711 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, so you're mentally interpreting the lambdas as having lexical scope < 1365677232 943907 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that's reasonable < 1365677247 435290 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think f(x)(x) syntax is standard. < 1365677258 445838 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it hinting at something that I'm missing? < 1365677260 616779 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Otherwise alpha equivalence would yield incorrect results? < 1365677266 709122 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it is standard, just the concept it's describing is normally not often used in languages that have that function call notation < 1365677289 480077 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :read it as (f(x))(x) < 1365677289 674225 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean standard in the same line with λs. < 1365677296 308068 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1365677302 436237 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's mathematical notation < 1365677310 553800 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's one kind of mathematical notation. < 1365677313 604884 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did it that way so it wouldn't remind people of any particular programming language < 1365677328 774761 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The lambdas remind me of lambda calculus, which is pretty well-defined. < 1365677337 986679 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought this was just a question of where we put the parentheses. < 1365677338 591266 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It reminded me of my days messing with Python's lambda construct < 1365677351 316700 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it's a questionf lexical vs. dynamic scope, well, dynamic scope is crazy. < 1365677356 5769 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So lexical scope. < 1365677361 927902 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, the most obvious semantic interpretation appears to be equivalent λf.λx.λy.f(x)(x); the λx replaces all the xs, then there aren't any more xs left for the other λx to replace < 1365677371 646546 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, what do you think of mixed scope? < 1365677387 829055 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"replaces"? < 1365677413 619278 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Do you also have this interpretation for λf.λx.λx.f(x) ? < 1365677424 672642 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If so the other x is just muddling things up. < 1365677431 57568 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yeah, but that other x adds new possible answers < 1365677437 775668 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like λf.λx.λy.f(x)(y) < 1365677442 76591 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1365677457 998925 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :before you say that's absurd, that's actually what the standard mathematical categorical semantics produces < 1365677468 692223 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I spent all last night writing a multi-page essay on why it's wrong :) < 1365677475 385952 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :λf.(λx.(λx.(f(x))(x))) is how I imagine it, ridiculously bracketed < 1365677487 790228 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: yeah, it parses like that < 1365677493 214220 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the question is how the lambdas match the xs < 1365677494 206786 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which contains (λx.(f(x))(x)) which has an obvious meaning < 1365677523 394744 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which can be alpha-converted < 1365677527 861397 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think being able to extract any subexpression the way Taneb did -- possibly with free variables -- is a good property. < 1365677536 787614 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure I understand where your interpretation comes from. < 1365677555 158468 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which leads to incorrect results with the semantic interpretation < 1365677561 275850 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1365677572 991837 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, so if we're working in a linear logic < 1365677582 115168 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(λx.(f(x))(x)) is an open term < 1365677595 164261 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you're using two xs, but only supplying one < 1365677601 876266 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's still a free x floating around somewhere < 1365677615 373620 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know much linear logic. :-( < 1365677623 175620 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the original type system, it's a little unclear whether it's a linear logic or not < 1365677626 90819 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're using it twice < 1365677632 839757 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it does require the number of lambdas to match the number of variables < 1365677641 138942 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :((λx.(f(x))) (x)) would use it once < 1365677641 837529 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I don't like any interpretation that would just refer to two different xs. < 1365677648 900807 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And require a free, floating x somewhere < 1365677653 946240 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1365677671 466927 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the problem with the traditional mathematical semantics that I'm arguing against < 1365677679 847193 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that it doesn't actually keep track of variable names at all < 1365677685 861920 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it can't observe that the two xs are the same < 1365677695 182698 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1365677698 251119 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just sees two lambdas, and two variable uses, and thinks everything is fine < 1365677708 659034 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hang on, are you saying that we're right but unconventional, or wrong AND unconventional < 1365677734 954786 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I don't think anyone's saying anything about "right" or "wrong". < 1365677746 496231 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I think you're righter than the conventional definition < 1365677752 844494 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right < 1365677755 53316 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but also that you're assuming too much sanity < 1365677763 322121 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, maybe some people are. < 1365677775 680398 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Clearly the solution is de Bruijn indices. < 1365677798 62058 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: the funny thing is, I think the traditional categorical semantics is actually correct for de Bruijn indices < 1365677802 880974 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but wrong for variable names < 1365677817 678814 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(cf Real Fast Nora's Hair Salon 3: Shear Disaster Download) < 1365677820 143803 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: anyway, alpha-conversion is clearly required for closed terms < 1365677828 984932 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, I should really read that language < 1365677834 408823 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem with serious languages with spammy names < 1365677839 510782 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that I note that they're not spam < 1365677848 955071 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, have you seen Binary lambda calculus? < 1365677850 207009 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then mentally disregard them < 1365677857 703342 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: yes but I can't remember how it works < 1365677875 725619 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Essentially like Real Fast Nora's Hair Salon 3: Shear Disaster Download, but with different I/O < 1365677914 554949 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Binary lambda calculus's IO is bitwise, Real Fast Nora's Hair Salon 3: Shear Disaster Download is character-wise) < 1365677939 386404 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, and it has an obfuscating syntax for no good reason < 1365677941 402428 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why did you do that? < 1365677957 482404 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not obfuscating! It's perfectly readable! < 1365677966 690117 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't hate it as much as PH hates BF derivatives, but it does disappoint me) < 1365677990 331792 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it was originally a functional version of BIT) < 1365678005 95374 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1365678016 633630 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, I just random-paged onto Numberwang (your version) < 1365678026 335815 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1365678064 935339 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to work out what made you come up with that operation for determining a command < 1365678074 153233 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which I originally thought was mod 9 mod 4, but isn't because of the decimals < 1365678091 671071 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's digital root mod 4 < 1365678100 637963 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.183.120 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1365678124 927931 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically, I wanted any terminating decimal to end up as one of the four commands < 1365678140 881141 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, digital root normally means mod 9 < 1365678143 358425 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but only on integers < 1365678162 160275 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it took me a moment to realise it was different on floats < 1365678174 808237 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(fun fact: all floats are terminating decimals) < 1365678175 336047 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's defined as the sum of the digits < 1365678183 780638 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(although not vice versa) < 1365678194 195637 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I thought it's defined as repeatedly summing the digits < 1365678195 22276 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is well-defined for terminating decimals < 1365678198 298346 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :until you get down to just one digit < 1365678200 540217 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1365678224 727861 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, my thoughts skipped about 10 steps < 1365678287 147383 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, I just randomed onto Radixal!!!! < 1365678291 164332 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like these combined effort languages < 1365678303 679420 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There should be more IMO < 1365678324 801158 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1365679206 503226 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony JOIN :#esoteric < 1365679351 840346 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.183.120 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365680675 85168 :GOMADWarrior!~Regis@189.34.44.144 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1365681174 258592 :carado!~carado@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:221:63ff:fe9a:3747 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1365681180 557992 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1365681978 235915 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365682322 525921 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365682395 531312 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1365682671 384623 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365683456 347185 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.183.120 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1365683481 928016 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.183.120 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365683833 380922 :surma!uid6361@c-base/crew/surma JOIN :#esoteric < 1365684088 963717 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365684440 468496 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the best way of working out what the largest natural k is such that n mod m ^ k = 0 for some natural m and n? < 1365684468 155557 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(eg, if n = 96 and m = 2, k = 5 because 2^5 * 3 = 96) < 1365684779 857706 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let exercise n m | mod n m /= 0 = 0 | otherwise = 1 + exercise (div n m) m in exercise 96 2 < 1365684781 701869 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 5 < 1365684930 526102 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365684941 687350 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1365685014 730754 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter JOIN :#esoteric < 1365685896 615434 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony JOIN :#esoteric < 1365686394 265568 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1365686571 167431 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-148.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the max exponent in the factorization < 1365686596 243131 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-148.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they may be easier way to obtain it < 1365686603 794620 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-148.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they->there < 1365686702 75272 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks for not saying “they=there”. < 1365687156 551342 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1365687300 507525 :yiyus!1242712427@je.je.je QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1365687358 707819 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let they = there in there = they < 1365687360 393339 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:27: parse error on input `=' < 1365687368 911822 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let they = there in there == they < 1365687370 407913 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `there'Not in scope: `there' < 1365687373 737466 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh. < 1365687424 531740 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony JOIN :#esoteric < 1365687536 599210 :GOMADWarrior!~Regis@189.34.44.144 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365689225 956121 :yiyus!1242712427@je.je.je JOIN :#esoteric < 1365689608 870928 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.178.34 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365689796 605839 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.183.120 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1365689821 535285 :jix!~jix@jixco.de QUIT :*.net *.split < 1365689821 728475 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :*.net *.split < 1365689821 922416 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia QUIT :*.net *.split < 1365689822 309687 :hogeyui!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz QUIT :*.net *.split < 1365689822 504453 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org QUIT :*.net *.split < 1365689822 504614 :Gregor!codu@codu.org QUIT :*.net *.split < 1365689877 616185 :carado!~carado@static.29.44.47.78.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1365689941 461675 :jix!~jix@jixco.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1365689941 655749 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1365689941 655819 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric < 1365689941 655851 :hogeyui!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz JOIN :#esoteric < 1365689941 655881 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1365689941 655911 :Gregor!codu@codu.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1365691251 68303 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1365691626 257289 :WeThePeople!~WeThePeop@unaffiliated/wethepeople JOIN :#esoteric < 1365691709 581349 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-18-72.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1365691750 995522 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-18-72.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1365691751 189807 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1365691833 926478 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1365691851 415136 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...it is cheaper to fly to London than to bus there < 1365691880 732911 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/bus/train/ < 1365691889 751570 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :With a complementary meal service, no less! < 1365691890 70417 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kind of depends on where you are I'd imagine. < 1365691926 695842 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :From Newcastle < 1365691983 266164 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Leaving about half three on June the 3rd < 1365691998 261466 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, with a plane, you still need to buy a tube ticket < 1365692008 227715 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Half three is one and a half < 1365692017 753617 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1365692020 416156 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Half past three < 1365692040 421970 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :We actually say something like "half five" etc in Finnish and that means 4:30 < 1365692042 906940 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it's weird as hell < 1365692046 99602 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :And makes no sense < 1365692063 276478 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not even like "half to five" but just "half five" literally < 1365692080 763449 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Especially as British English does the same but backwards < 1365692100 863886 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :win 41 < 1365692123 645993 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1365692166 36523 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-18-72.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1365692203 825500 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-18-72.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1365692204 20233 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1365692226 364283 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: that happens in German too < 1365692244 529038 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it's like roman numerals < 1365692256 537757 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Put a smaller digit before a larger one and it's subtracted < 1365692274 464230 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could you then say "five half" for "half six"? < 1365692305 403190 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can say "five thirty", FWIW. < 1365692324 496923 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bah < 1365692367 959353 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even when taking into account Metro and Tube, it is cheaper and quicker to go via plane, metro, and tube to travel from Newcastle Central Station to King's Cross < 1365692393 576708 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1365692404 640184 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365692489 13485 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :just think, by 2035 or so you might be able to take a high speed train 2/3 of the way < 1365692542 883994 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'll still be slower and more expensive < 1365692549 308591 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1365692729 225551 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1365692735 94256 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1365692927 318822 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, what do all y'all (that's the plural of y'all, right?) use for non-GUIfic conversion of RTF to plaintext? < 1365692989 158053 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :'aptitude search' finds an 'unrtf', which has a promising name. < 1365693008 216603 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365693009 531707 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365693106 164552 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt many of us'all use RTF in the first place < 1365693182 192195 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365693321 912975 :carado!~carado@static.29.44.47.78.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Quit: Quitte < 1365693455 766906 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, Fiora: yeah my work machine produces all sorts of strange patterns with the maze thing < 1365693477 309350 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like it :) < 1365693625 187033 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn, I missed a long discussion of new x86 instructions < 1365693630 763498 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry! < 1365693640 454308 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I posted a cool paper or two < 1365693659 480958 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :though I can't remember if you're like bike with regards to subsisting on academic papers XD < 1365693689 768381 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony JOIN :#esoteric < 1365693695 815502 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365693731 5290 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Trading is halted until 2013-04-12 02:00am UTC to allow the market to cooldown following the drop in price. Read more details on the support. Additionally trading fees will not be charged within 48 hours of trading resuming (until 2013-04-14 02:00am UTC)." also kmc, oh dears < 1365693880 186445 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lolol < 1365693900 429534 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: i like to read or at least skim cool papers < 1365693916 517013 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :trading halt at MtGox? < 1365693922 542509 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1365693928 695521 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bitcoinity.org/markets is still showing trades < 1365693933 225483 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :around $120 < 1365693955 533594 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1365693961 711037 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, trading halt at mtgox < 1365693972 645389 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :trading halt? now? < 1365693992 825295 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm guessing they're trying to upgrade their systems really fast, apparently they got like 20,000 new accounts in the past day < 1365694011 116678 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gosh this is a silly bubble < 1365694100 558608 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how bitcoins work < 1365694110 886695 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But at the same time I don't really know how any currency works < 1365694135 707771 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: do you want a quick technical explanation of how bitcoins work < 1365694140 101508 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not really < 1365694140 840651 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or do you mean more like the economics of it < 1365694142 489977 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1365694144 664052 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right now I want a hug < 1365694147 681196 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :aw < 1365694149 569236 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hugs Taneb
< 1365694155 47869 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thank you, kmc < 1365694157 622619 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not as good over IRC, i know < 1365694171 539377 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'll do < 1365694190 703972 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm on the cusp of feeling really down < 1365694210 845064 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :about anything in particular? < 1365694251 40725 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not really < 1365694271 444396 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone being a bit nasty on Facebook, someone else not being online < 1365694349 269868 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, actually, yes, something in particular < 1365694435 691780 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hugs Taneb too
< 1365694440 772531 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thank you < 1365694608 598145 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-148.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hugs Taneb three
< 1365694614 828931 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thank you also < 1365694672 226449 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: oh so like, the woman I mentioned who was doing the bit hacky stuff if you were glancing at the logs < 1365694685 633911 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike jokingly called her a personification of IBM but he's not far off < 1365694722 832422 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :she apparently has like, hundreds of patents, and invented to some degree or another three different CPU architectures < 1365694732 785268 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1365694749 73609 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :she was chief architect at HP for like a decade < 1365694773 928019 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :designed PA-RISC, worked on designing IA-64 too < 1365694827 393272 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-148.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm more impressed with the former:) < 1365694854 856867 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :( http://www.princeton.edu/~rblee/ ) < 1365695208 769232 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hugs Taneb, kmc, Fiora, and tromp_ simultaneously
< 1365695215 667038 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have a snowstorm beginning at 2am tonight, shifting into slushstorm at 2pm on Friday, with a slight respite around 10pm then aftermath until 9am on Saturday. < 1365695221 448467 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is getting out of hand, Tha < 1365695226 228288 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :He isn't sure why but he hopes it makes them feel happy < 1365695227 9624 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tOtherPerson < 1365695229 410825 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :group hugs are great < 1365695237 139764 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ThatOtherPerson: are you impersonating some kind of octopus with all that large-scale hugging? < 1365695249 584115 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, when I do them, it ends up with everyone on the floor and someone getting crushed < 1365695252 935565 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1365695262 78191 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1365695275 374707 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'everyone on the floor' is not necessarily bad < 1365695282 761335 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps they're too contagious around here < 1365695328 950584 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, one of my British friends said that the British were not into hugs. < 1365695340 728099 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if your floors are contagious, you have a more pressing problem than worrying about crushing people. < 1365695411 607197 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ThatOtherPerson, it may be more of a rural thing, or a northern thing, or a rural people in the north thing < 1365695447 931821 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1365695515 518087 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1365695868 915359 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.115.210.249 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365695989 966306 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ThatOtherPerson: they're not very common, although there are a few situations in which they're socially acceptable < 1365696044 950384 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like meeting strangers in a subway? < 1365696122 9541 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, you've heard a southerner, a northerner, and a mindlands-er < 1365696158 745126 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I liked the round tunnels of the Tube. < 1365696204 71330 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.115.210.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you seen any of the urban exploration stuff where they explore abandoned tube stations? < 1365696231 253881 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :tuuuuuuuuuuuuuube < 1365696272 823377 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :When they were digging tunnels for the Tyne-Wear Metro, they found an unexploded bomb from the second world war. < 1365696291 421874 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If that bomb had exploded, it would have killed my gran and great grandfather < 1365696298 817135 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.115.210.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hugs are almost acceptable around here, but a little awkward. You shouldn't hug someone when they arrive. It's sometimes okay to hug someone when they leave. Only hug with one arm. Follow these three rules and you should be fine. < 1365696300 789876 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really like subways. I don't know why. < 1365696310 958090 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ThatOtherPerson: because they're awesome < 1365696326 89167 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :They are pretty awesome < 1365696349 34937 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.115.210.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like anything underground :-) Caves, subways, crypts, bunkers... < 1365696350 345377 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ugcs.net/~arapp/timelines/europe.html < 1365696396 285409 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have a pretty nice subway here, with all kinds of entertainment and service interruptions. < 1365696410 678202 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: If life was a video game, they'd have blown it up to make a hole to save some digging. < 1365696431 136429 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would have made a perfectly spherical empty space. < 1365696463 593734 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1365696486 964503 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :TIL there are sweet-tasting mushrooms: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Candy_cap < 1365696519 261853 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365696521 699956 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is just creepy < 1365696626 844197 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :going to look for Mycena corticola today < 1365696633 495010 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :really tiny mushrooms that pop out of the sides of trees after it rains < 1365696668 169343 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungi < 1365696672 753603 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :eww < 1365696682 771466 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungi are the best < 1365696700 602785 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Fungi are unnatural, right? < 1365696700 807275 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ThatOtherPerson: how's that? < 1365696701 1845 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't trust myself enough to pick fungi to eat < 1365696707 660987 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I will eat mushrooms < 1365696710 551369 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.115.210.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is too scared to eat fungi that I find
< 1365696731 611876 :Lymia!~moe@tccd240-4.tccd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1365696731 611956 :Lymia!~moe@tccd240-4.tccd.edu QUIT :Changing host < 1365696731 612034 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1365696737 901145 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION think fungi are an alien life form biding their time to try to conquer the planet
< 1365696738 860615 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: yeah, identifying them is tricky < 1365696745 801022 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :*thinks < 1365696772 235791 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can get advice on http://www.shroomery.org/forums/postlist.php/Board/3 < 1365696789 110142 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: They're so creepy and different and alien < 1365696789 397454 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ThatOtherPerson: bar stuff? who knows, perhaps fnord the fnord giant? < 1365696793 942884 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.115.210.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ThatOtherPerson: wouldn't alien life forms still be natural (unless cloned / engineered) < 1365696814 720676 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: ... BESIDES THE POINT < 1365696816 783605 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :;D < 1365696853 565102 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.115.210.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I can identify a few. Unfortunately the ones which are easy to identify tend to be poisonous. < 1365696858 785087 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That means "yes") < 1365696867 326106 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think oyster mushrooms are pretty easy to identify < 1365696869 433538 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and are tasty < 1365696870 990547 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure, though < 1365696958 570465 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :spore print is very useful for making an identification < 1365696962 791499 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that takes like a day < 1365696973 638911 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mushroom ident guides are usually organized by spore color first < 1365696976 447954 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.115.210.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I haven't seen those around here. Mostly fly agaric, something that grow out of a tree (beefsteak?), puffballs, shaggy inkcap, and something brown that could be anything. < 1365696991 800204 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, so many kinds of little brown mushrooms < 1365697034 134108 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :puffballs are neat < 1365697051 601964 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.115.210.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently we have blue stems (whatever they are) which sell for �60 per kilo. < 1365697087 695982 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"blue stem" makes me think psilocybin :) < 1365697109 991552 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in that case they might be more than £60 per kilo! < 1365697138 192326 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm shaggy inkcap is nematophagous (oysters are too) < 1365697146 129550 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they trap and kill nematodes for their delicious nitrogen < 1365697180 699938 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :For some reason, I have to connect through my VPS to access the research library server using school wireless < 1365698102 425399 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1365698238 716935 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :MUSHROOM RULES: 1) Learn to recognize poisonous mushrooms. 2) Only eat mushrooms that you recognize. < 1365698242 109393 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Yeah, I already did that "joke" on-channel, but since it was topical...) < 1365698370 742181 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the shroomery forum has a lot of posts like "I just ate these mushrooms, what were they?" < 1365698373 971205 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't understand these people... < 1365698399 696493 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you can fit something in your mouth, it's edible. < 1365699316 640847 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1365699699 613817 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no fizzie < 1365699714 954628 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you can fit something in your mouth and swallow it's edible < 1365699902 866230 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1365700028 78250 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-148.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the part before "and" appears redundant... < 1365700037 257978 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1365700070 803483 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-148.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :leaving us with swallable (sounds more fun than swallowable) < 1365700132 644270 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1365700133 179225 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1365700140 830859 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-148.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :funny hits you get if you google that... < 1365700161 410600 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know, in addition to a rabbi, I've also pretended to be a king < 1365700172 102014 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the bony king of nowhere? < 1365700194 414852 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...the young Edward-y king of England < 1365700232 888621 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've also pretended to be Queen Elizabeth the first, but that was a desperate plea for attention < 1365700254 315275 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1365700274 667679 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1365700599 784488 :listofoptions!~grossofug@168.28.136.16 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365700683 541964 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1365700891 539628 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1365701479 444652 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1365701752 66286 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1365703184 369263 :sirdancealot!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1365703759 55624 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1365705051 997204 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The writer's identify is Barbara Bob and her spouse does not like it at all. Her spouse will not like it the way she does but what she definitely likes doing is cooking and she would never give it up. Years ago she moved to Maryland. Her working day career is a meter reader. < 1365705272 927917 :Tod-Autojoined!~Tod@166-70-93-209.ip.xmission.com QUIT :Quit: This is me, signing off. Probably rebooting or something. < 1365705371 744567 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: sounds like Wesley Willis < 1365705441 427522 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1365705454 715011 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365705497 466645 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://brianmckenna.org/blog/category_theory_promisesaplus oh boy, I can't wait to find out the ways in which this has nothing at all to do with category theory < 1365705523 246711 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Putting it together, here's the monad class < 1365705528 692730 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :might be all the ways < 1365705531 229591 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks for saying this without even mentioning what a typeclass is at all < 1365705536 174592 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :really going to help your readers < 1365705564 467125 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :function flatMap(p, f) { return p.then(f); < 1365705564 661119 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :} < 1365705570 948135 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HOLY SHIT I CAN'T HANDLE THE CATEGORY THEORY IT'S TOO MUCH!! < 1365705580 502303 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :here are some fairly simple things from Haskell but i'm going to call them "Category Theory" to show i'm hardcore! < 1365705589 327769 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also not say what a category is < 1365705604 750915 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The above will work for any monad. List of lists? Optional optional value? If the JavaScript community settled on using flatMap as a method, we could write DRY, generalised code for monads. < 1365705615 972316 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :DRY is an adjective now I guess < 1365705617 129882 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :good thing monads don't have return < 1365705621 963371 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: it means not wet < 1365705626 493641 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"hth" < 1365705650 70542 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: sounds like someone is in for a rude awakening in re: monad transformers < 1365705668 105466 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"So where exactly is the category theory in this, opposed to just providing a sane API? Does the author actually understand category theory? How does it matter that the interface has similarities to concepts in category theory? Is there any valuable proof or construction we can get out of this?" < 1365705675 858487 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know an article is bad when the /r/programming comments are better < 1365705679 249283 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oof < 1365705684 590383 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's rock bottom < 1365705711 204556 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"By my unscientific count there were 13 counts of monad and 8 counts of functor in that article. That seems well above the expected number given your comment, which would suggest there were no ideas from category theory in it." < 1365705712 50520 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: "By my unscientific count there were 13 counts of monad and 8 counts of functor in that article. That seems well above the expected number given your comment, which would suggest there were no ideas from category theory in it." < 1365705719 890132 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least 73.4% monad < 1365705744 154130 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want a chrome extension that gives me the monad / functor count for every page < 1365705746 942904 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :tia < 1365705769 816608 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :g'mafternoon < 1365705781 533430 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.112 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365705788 838365 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'As a solo artist, Willis created more than 50 albums, each with over 20 tracks, full of bizarre, tense, and often obscene rants about crime, fast food, cultural trends, bus routes, violent confrontations with superheroes, commands for his "demons" to engage in bestiality, and praise for his favorite actors, friends (both platonic and romantic), politicians, and hip-hop and rock artists.' < 1365705795 667755 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: is category new monad? < 1365705821 273828 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in b4 burrito < 1365705825 146020 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also hichaf < 1365705837 323366 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :greetingan < 1365705841 956350 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :greegan? < 1365705883 294684 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wfm < 1365705902 446410 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you hate burritos :'( < 1365705917 697011 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm still not quite sure what a burrito is < 1365705929 10246 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm imagining something like a tortilla < 1365705931 928876 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or perhaps a monad < 1365705965 843496 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aiui it's a tortilla < 1365705988 124884 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: imo next time you're looking for a burrito in mountain view you should go to the taqueria on rengstorff & old middlefield < 1365706009 878391 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1365706021 733531 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure if Taneb is serious < 1365706030 87170 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the last line wasn't serious) < 1365706032 409285 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, there are three taquerias on that corner < 1365706039 329164 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I am, though, unsure exactly what a burrito is) < 1365706044 482203 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should go to the one in the back of the little grocery store < 1365706045 447531 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: it's a burrito rolled up into a fat tube, filled with stuff like beans, rice, meat, guacamole, lettuce, etc < 1365706048 561349 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1365706050 349897 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a tortilla rolled up < 1365706057 385210 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry 2 give non well founded definition < 1365706062 608295 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right < 1365706064 864185 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never had a burrito before I moved to CA. < 1365706079 595004 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure I knew what they were. < 1365706082 191175 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: that just makes burritos codata < 1365706084 824857 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: each one will have different stuff; beans and rice are pretty essential tho < 1365706094 855955 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you can always peel off the next fat tube in a finite amount of time < 1365706095 316425 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: true you can 'unwap' each layer in finite time < 1365706097 170563 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1365706107 902664 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :welp time to write a codata tutorial < 1365706123 8591 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In that case, I may have eaten a number of burritos today < 1365706133 506986 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(there was tortilla, chilli, and rice) < 1365706141 273524 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the chilli contained beans?_ < 1365706142 229692 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1365706382 213660 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems legit < 1365706388 818492 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a p. broad category of food < 1365706393 231361 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :SF has a "sushiritto" restaurant < 1365706402 119521 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a v. SF sort of thing < 1365706416 660334 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that sushi+burrito? < 1365706535 201094 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1365706549 629663 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a sushi roll in the size and shape of a burrito < 1365706555 693084 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.sushirrito.com/ < 1365706576 436073 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but is it vegetarian < 1365706582 51054 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :could be < 1365706594 993413 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i forgot to mention cheese above, most burritos have cheese < 1365706597 180571 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hexham has a greek restaurant < 1365706597 375294 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and/or sour cream < 1365706602 861041 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently it's crap < 1365706632 67461 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: imo move to california??????? < 1365706655 580997 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo fix your healthcare and gun laws < 1365706690 470481 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1365706693 727320 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fair retort < 1365706706 423 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :MA has semi-fixed healthcare anyway < 1365706715 803045 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not great but it's less fucked than the rest of the USA < 1365706732 610364 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1365706773 105059 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this was one of Governor Romney's big accomplishments before he ran for President and had to suddenly hate that program < 1365706873 685230 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1365706924 58755 :sirdancealo2!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1365707114 563331 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365708241 906792 :WeThePeople!~WeThePeop@unaffiliated/wethepeople QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1365708254 889022 :WeThePeople!~WeThePeop@63.91.27.121 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365708255 232420 :WeThePeople!~WeThePeop@63.91.27.121 QUIT :Changing host < 1365708255 427644 :WeThePeople!~WeThePeop@unaffiliated/wethepeople JOIN :#esoteric < 1365708624 738002 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1365708726 562857 :ousia!~ousia@gateway/tor-sasl/ousia QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1365708971 630848 :ousia!~ousia@gateway/tor-sasl/ousia JOIN :#esoteric < 1365709326 578434 :sirdancealo2!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1365709329 243887 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb / ThatOtherPerson: http://fioraaeterna.tumblr.com/post/37966564090/ :3 < 1365709361 135840 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'VE BEEN DOING IT ALL WRONG < 1365709411 913267 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's never too late to learn! < 1365709414 792595 :sirdancealo2!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1365709440 754910 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it's probably too late if backs have already been broken. < 1365709459 293891 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are always more backs out there to break. < 1365709474 430507 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1365709514 283833 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I am a reasonably tall chap who is keen on hugs and has a number of shorter friends, this comes up a lot) < 1365709515 863151 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but like you can still learn < 1365709536 435619 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1365709563 960923 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in all fairness, I also like the "bury head in chest cling" hug too, but that probably doesn't leave much for the tall person to do) < 1365709606 58771 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I once brought a book) < 1365709669 766936 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :was it called "how to hug" < 1365709677 868634 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that was a dictionary hth < 1365709699 315586 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was called Star Smashers of the Galaxy Rangers < 1365709706 570901 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a silly pulp sci-fi < 1365709712 37392 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1365709740 197752 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does that book have to do with hugging o_O < 1365709763 816823 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :About a couple of college students who accidentally make a FTL drive powered by American artificial cheddar < 1365709776 422107 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, very little, it just happened to be the book I had on me at the time < 1365709825 819372 :sirdancealo2!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz QUIT :Excess Flood < 1365709826 321276 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: why isn't strace nice and simple < 1365709837 218652 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: uh it is < 1365709848 224904 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :an elegant modern strace duuuuuuuuuffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff < 1365709857 764944 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, because it's not part of @'s core utils < 1365709880 114819 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :an strace that celebrates craftsmanship < 1365709882 521217 :sirdancealo2!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1365709897 236173 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, why did you just say duffffffffffff < 1365709898 970884 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: all i want to know is why clicking on links in urxvt is broken < 1365709902 124935 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :duffman < 1365709906 871652 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: he didnt he said duuuuuuuuuffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff < 1365709912 622430 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey does anyone here like akira < 1365709926 402258 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've heard of akira < 1365709933 216482 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't remember in which context, though < 1365709934 136408 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not good enough. < 1365709939 333465 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it an anime < 1365709944 971558 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1365709951 948678 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akira < 1365709955 74014 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any good? < 1365709958 222630 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1365709962 772308 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akira -- insecure link for people who aren't shachaf < 1365710002 276174 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :only insecure people click on insecure links < 1365710015 340821 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, the film? < 1365710051 128688 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1365710054 515015 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/FWaP ok so this is the problem < 1365710057 484936 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :though the comic's great too, if longer < 1365710064 477645 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Might give it a shot < 1365710066 49332 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yet i have < 1365710066 665029 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :URxvt.urlLauncher: chromium < 1365710068 667655 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's four thousand pages or some crap < 1365710068 862154 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what gives??? < 1365710076 765811 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Akira # MAXIMALLY SECURE LINK < 1365710103 905588 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1365710106 525044 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ti was changed to url-launcher < 1365710117 75858 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"sensible-editor, sensible-pager and sensible-browser make sensible decisions on which editor, pager, and web browser to call, respectively." < 1365710122 546707 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I remember the movie was kind of confusing just because of how much it was compressed from the manga < 1365710127 198511 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(what the hell is a pager) < 1365710130 902156 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was pretty though < 1365710133 306398 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(are we talking like those beepy things) < 1365710136 45372 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg < 1365710137 724628 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :links work again < 1365710137 919496 :WeThePeople!~WeThePeop@unaffiliated/wethepeople QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1365710143 493669 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a miracle! < 1365710147 758054 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've gone < 1365710148 277533 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I think it's a thing people put in their pocket protector < 1365710150 504238 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :literally months with broken links < 1365710152 698063 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :now you can click all the secure akira information you want < 1365710153 873944 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: a pager is more or less < 1365710157 944586 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1365710169 601910 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: not convinced pocket protectors exist tbh < 1365710178 269337 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike you weren't there fort hat time i went like three to four months without number keys < 1365710198 30766 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :remember those months i went without → and End keys < 1365710202 246849 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol. < 1365710205 125169 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait those months are still going on < 1365710205 904676 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1365710256 943547 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the joke is that my keyboard is broken and it's Bike's fault < 1365710279 521605 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good joke, imo. < 1365710337 568384 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I think they have like, the same mythical status as slide rules? < 1365710354 314682 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey now < 1365710356 546529 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey i have a slide rule < 1365710359 615993 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've used a slide rule < 1365710361 514652 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've actually used a slide rule < 1365710408 108114 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow :o < 1365710409 364262 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I rule at sliding < 1365710410 90571 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the stuff of legends! < 1365710414 444239 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're actually pretty easy to use < 1365710435 921681 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Battery 0: Charging, 75%, 1484:00:00 until charged < 1365710451 669125 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Conflict:_Palestine < 1365710465 308107 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Global Conflicts: Palestine is a serious game. It was developed by Serious Games Interactive" < 1365710467 693794 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds serious < 1365710476 439354 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jerusalem facing challenges. < 1365710504 565158 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Conflict: Middle East Political Simulator" well i guess that about sums it up < 1365710525 694102 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Conflict: Middle East Political Simulator, often known as ConfMEPS" < 1365710545 658275 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"One of the main ways to lose the game is for WMDs to be used, which often sets off a global nuclear holocaust. This can present a problem to players," < 1365710570 410386 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like DEFCON < 1365710577 425479 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :DEFCON is a fun game < 1365710594 275518 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION has also used a slide rule
< 1365710602 797373 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :just for addition and multiplication though < 1365710607 338977 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :addition is kind of obvious < 1365710607 634123 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gosh DEFCON was fun < 1365710611 628724 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and multiplication is log addition :) < 1365710615 982727 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :golly gosh < 1365710619 222668 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :" Generally, it is best to destabilize Iran into collapsing, since this permits Iraq to threaten some of the countries which share a border with Israel." yes. nailed it. < 1365710620 15487 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would love DEFCON if i could be good at it < 1365710637 365765 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was good enough to beat the computer reliably, because the computer is dumb < 1365710640 367638 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i never played much online < 1365710648 237418 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can imagine it being so much fun to play with friends < 1365710656 344822 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :online it's just gruesome < 1365710661 809330 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Lebanon, which borders Israel and Syria, is highly unstable and will collapse on its own accord if another country does not invade it first; in fact, Lebanon will collapse by itself even if the player is always trying to disrupt the insurgency and support the Government. " this is seriously darkly amusing < 1365710673 666351 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we had a party that included a video of DEFCON gameplay on a huge projection screen < 1365710676 254714 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to, like, micromanage every single one of your bombers, and split your entire fleet into 2-ship units < 1365710678 778005 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cold war themed party < 1365710696 793067 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds pretty sad kmc < 1365710705 534054 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you play cold war songs < 1365710705 970379 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was crap at DEFCON < 1365710713 701361 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Napalm Sticks to Kids~ < 1365710716 427872 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how bad I was but it was fun < 1365710722 102395 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that's the only cold war song i know) < 1365710723 328365 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does Coldplay make cold war music? < 1365710724 336413 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually that was the party where the hazmat crew got called the next day < 1365710732 927271 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: they could organize the party by decades. so like, in the first hour, every 10 minutes they have to vote someone out as a communist < 1365710734 433487 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Coldplay: The cherry on top of a shit sundae." < 1365710753 472665 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i definitely wasn't good but i was competent at not being obviously bad < 1365710770 851899 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: and then they all get high as hell and forget the theme? < 1365710776 243116 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : About a couple of college students who accidentally make a FTL drive powered by American artificial cheddar <-- overarching premise: "this stuff has to be good for _something_"? < 1365710780 770023 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then in the next decade they have to vote who is the bourgeois and shame them in front of everyone < 1365710786 174945 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1365710789 987864 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are a few typos in the game which can be distracting to the player, such as the announcement that a given country has been overrun by another country's "hoards" (its bank accounts?), rather than using the correct term, "hordes". < 1365710804 218658 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and decide on Four Olds from around the room to destroy < 1365710809 25592 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1365710811 841624 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay this is silly < 1365710837 963217 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, they put it in a particle collider for a joke, and then the next-door neighbour's cat ends up in Toronto or something < 1365710841 1303 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :later i show up in a ghillie suit and murder all the christians for being too leftist < 1365710851 857318 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :c.c < 1365710908 90665 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just stand outside the party training assassins < 1365710933 778565 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder how introversion's doing these days < 1365711011 802 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, then the two college students, their girlfriend (they share one), and a KGB spy end up on a 747 in space or something < 1365711015 54881 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And save a few worlds < 1365711499 447338 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1365711758 667268 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1365711760 377512 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am not sure 747's are considered space-worthy? < 1365711790 856879 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just strap a rocket to the end < 1365711791 88463 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's like Space Battleship Yamato? < 1365711806 443468 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hell, strap some to where the normal engines are < 1365711850 76771 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, it was very silly < 1365711893 717322 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, I think they just put a small particle collider and some cheese in it < 1365711974 682188 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf google is constantly crashing < 1365712002 452731 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1365712021 732569 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, wouldn't that basically be an ion drive < 1365712025 434590 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :with cheese ions < 1365712027 363051 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :only the main page though < 1365712037 483951 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION drive
< 1365712047 55296 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, I think it was more a magic drive < 1365712059 253293 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1365712082 84915 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw can we all just spend a minute admiring http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_salt-water_rocket < 1365712089 171157 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was not at all hard sci-fi < 1365712169 409963 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fission_fragment_rocket this is my favorite nuclear rocket design < 1365712179 162879 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no fiora < 1365712180 812768 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sorry < 1365712192 557773 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just not crazy enough < 1365712194 993165 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can get exhaust velocity up to a significant fraction of c < 1365712197 229830 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's so cool < 1365712201 998662 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.lp.org/make-a-bitcoin-contribution < 1365712203 503362 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so can the nswr < 1365712206 221607 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :libertarian party now accepting bitcoin donations < 1365712216 738425 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :By checking this box I acknowledge that contributions from corporations and foreign nationals are prohibited (Permanent legal residents of the U.S., i.e., "green card" holders, are not considered foreign nationals). I also acknowledge that this contribution is made from my own personal funds and not funds from a corporate or business entity. < 1365712225 946494 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you use highly-enriched fuel < 1365712230 363930 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :something tells me this isn't legally sound < 1365712231 925614 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wow O_O that one has crazy good specific impulse too < 1365712239 600147 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, you're not a US citizen. < 1365712244 200678 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hate to break it 2 u < 1365712248 301771 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < 1365712253 736778 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like how the donation amount starts at $5k < 1365712257 381063 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :LIBERTARIANS < 1365712268 252845 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, it's basically project orion with one long, continuous explosion < 1365712273 519538 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's amazing < 1365712274 520076 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: That's actually a legal requirement on campaign donations. < 1365712298 121231 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Basically, without having a weirdo legal status you can't accept from corporations, and you can't accept from non-citizens. < 1365712309 440759 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1365712323 361210 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2013/04/11/as-big-investors-emerge-bitcoin-gets-ready-for-its-close-up/ oh my gosh it's the winklevoss twins < 1365712326 882122 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're back < 1365712350 228414 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I rarely use any compression with DVI other than the built-in movement commands compression, although other can be used if necessary such as gz and so on < 1365712350 734491 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: You have 2 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them. < 1365712354 110679 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :?messages < 1365712354 757023 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc asked 2d 43m 57s ago: What kind of compression (if any) do you use on .dvi files? < 1365712354 952178 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike said 1d 20h 22m 8s ago: friend of mine doesn't think TwoDucks can solve the halting problem (for UTMs) and would be interested in talking it over with you. < 1365712356 706807 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :best return since cliff lawton's < 1365712362 709827 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: yes but... < 1365712364 924432 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's bitcoins < 1365712379 234186 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty trivial to just donate money to them and put in a fake address < 1365712396 896313 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"winklevoss"?? < 1365712412 916596 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the guys who sued facebook for stealing their idea < 1365712436 700035 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1365712445 210873 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the identical twins from the fairy tale < 1365712448 961256 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty sure they can't actually be real < 1365712450 49118 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1365712453 702575 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the bad guys from that facebook film < 1365712468 856041 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«Olympic rowers. Nemeses of Mark Zuckerberg. Characters on “The Simpsons.” Now they can add a new label: bitcoin moguls.» this is pretty great < 1365712486 271162 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm at least 0 of those things < 1365712488 186991 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«The Winklevii — as they are popularly known —» < 1365712510 994812 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey dutch tulips < 1365712515 466889 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should actually read that book sometime < 1365712520 545745 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"They have parlayed that fortune into Winklevoss Capital. Their first two investments were in Hukkster, a start-up shopping Web site and SumZero, an online community for professional money managers." < 1365712524 55469 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :winklevopodes < 1365712536 90484 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :guys < 1365712539 182461 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrong bubble < 1365712542 407341 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: does anyone invest in anything that isn't a website any more < 1365712546 915746 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm < 1365712553 956588 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :things that aren't websites? what < 1365712554 545384 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Winklevoss" < 1365712565 621696 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds like my dad's mum's maiden name < 1365712570 376353 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Wolswinkel" < 1365712571 930483 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i know it's hard to believe they exist < 1365712587 176665 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I invested in an oil company < 1365712596 14594 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It hasn't yet gone bankrupt < 1365712651 262708 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb < 1365712653 691340 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are the worst < 1365712673 698697 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1365712675 141382 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes I am < 1365712677 877471 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :time for a relevant quote: < 1365712679 686469 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~fortune < 1365712679 881169 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used to think that the brain was the most wonderful organ in < 1365712679 881303 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my body. Then I realized who was telling me this. < 1365712679 881348 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric : -- Emo Phillips < 1365712711 591814 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha, ha, cartesian dualism < 1365712818 935540 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Oh, so that's why the value is crashing... people just wanted to get out once they saw the Winkelvii getting in." *pff* < 1365712967 214808 :TodPunk!~Tod@166-70-93-209.ip.xmission.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1365713056 57662 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1365713230 698802 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-179-240.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365713518 89543 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Oh, I can just popcnt %eax, %eax? < 1365713573 756022 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i'm wondering if there's assembly that resembles brekekex koax koax < 1365713707 1461 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? maybe < 1365713712 734860 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1365713721 654215 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Maybe a is Just a or Nothing < 1365713729 272237 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1365713769 306141 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Just (x::a) < 1365713777 833817 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just Int isn't :: Maybe Int < 1365713796 905885 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Go fight with the "data" syntax people. < 1365713877 872726 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t Just 5 :: Maybe Int < 1365713879 185778 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe Int < 1365713922 859570 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION laughs at today's darths & droids
< 1365714078 372313 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t return 5 `asTypeOf` Just undefined < 1365714080 138495 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Num a => Maybe a < 1365714099 258974 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: do you know about ways to encode codata using inductive types < 1365714124 928092 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1365714145 888764 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION dips into r/bitcoin, notes that they are arguing with someone pointing out that bitcoins are never going to hit $100,000
< 1365714167 411303 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1365714176 913192 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: wrapping things dually in functions, i assume... < 1365714197 993451 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, you said "know". i guess not. < 1365714208 980111 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I am pretty sure there are multiple viable ways but Idon't know the details < 1365714217 369485 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume someone has written a paper about it but I can't find one < 1365714223 893589 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: amazingly I don't think x86 actually has anything starting with K < 1365714252 421473 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: the k is not important here, i was inspired by %eax after all < 1365714252 760289 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or G, Q, Y, or Z. < 1365714325 356712 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: Poulet! < 1365714333 76793 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1365714364 804283 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: link < 1365714383 860121 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1c51ck/i_think_this_subreddit_should_seriously_consider/c9d3ket < 1365714385 321282 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i would expect codata to be somehow representable as something a function that takes an inductive data type argument describing how to decompose it to a finite level < 1365714391 291856 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*-something < 1365714406 84272 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sort of dual to a fold < 1365714480 174273 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1365714507 515279 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well... I am a bit unsure because when you have dependent types, it's no longer sufficient to describe data types as their fold < 1365714518 964639 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dear < 1365714549 941012 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do not usually think of dependent types, i was imagining something system F like here < 1365714637 543425 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mm < 1365715087 899316 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-41-137.public.wayport.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365715329 748329 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dog attacks TV for baseball http://youtu.be/L7QFFZJWAX8 < 1365715535 836720 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: ... < 1365715569 934925 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is quite a thread PH < 1365715581 366028 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: ha, nice catch < 1365715589 978508 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Estimate those probabilities, multiply them by each other. Is your answer zero? Nope, didn't think so. < 1365715630 2495 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow are there gold standard people here i'm seeing < 1365715632 951927 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Why would anyone record themselves playing triple play? Definitely planned... Therefore its NOT A NICE SAVE" < 1365715642 569306 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :woah, youtube commenter, you are really blowing the lid off this conspiracy < 1365715647 445556 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :do the zapruder film next < 1365715663 351859 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"400 years ago Canada was a bunch of stupid trees. Now we re worth almost 1.8 trillion. Give that amount of time, and maybe." wow it's bullshit /and/ racist < 1365715672 528054 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1365715692 630875 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bitcoins are just like canada kmc < 1365715709 747107 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I think a better analogy is that Microsoft was started in a garage, and Facebook was started by random college kids in their dorm room. Oh and don't forget Apple who nearly died that one time.""Yeah, and none of those companies is anywhere close to being worth two trillion dollars." "neither of those companies is a currency." < 1365715743 787075 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: well canada is still a bunch of stupid trees. < 1365715761 617370 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just because a lot of people bought in early and get rich, that doesn't mean that they don't deserve to get RICHER. I feel like there is so much greed around Bitcoin now that it's going to fail just over the asshats that won't recognize the value. < 1365715803 625906 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would you even want a BTC to be worth $10000, that's not how you measure the strength of a currency < 1365715822 861746 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're winning if the numbers go up < 1365715824 722735 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like mario < 1365715826 362284 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well people don't care about the strength of BTC so much as making a lot of money off the BTC they have < 1365715833 290193 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if they pretend otherwise < 1365715849 738422 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was an article in the observer making that point < 1365715865 78546 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well if the observer said it < 1365715866 98939 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bitcoin is doomed to fail because it encourages speculators and hoarding, apparently < 1365715881 267567 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sort of like other currencies you mean < 1365715882 774512 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's doomed to fail it's because the people using it are dipshits < 1365715884 968922 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, deflation is built into the protocol < 1365715886 168981 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1365715896 588559 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, what kmc said < 1365715906 73341 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes i do know how bitcoin works :P < 1365715913 917645 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's kind of brilliant, though, isn't it? the creator of bitcoin was able to gather a vast army of supporters to push it just through greed < 1365715915 797195 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i have �200 in a sock it's just going to become worthless over time < 1365715920 941562 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because all the early adopters will have a ton to gain < 1365715929 251532 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :something about bitcoin being a microcosm of capitalism, not a conspiracy < 1365715937 333003 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you have 200,000 JPY in a sock then it almost doesn't become worthless except that your country's economy slowly melts < 1365715957 501184 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: the invisible hand is flipping us all off < 1365716208 725263 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365716314 598395 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello monqy < 1365716368 641600 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1365716552 47310 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh mtgox is tokyo-based? < 1365716564 417960 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was imagining it as being, like < 1365716569 801168 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :on top of an actual mountain < 1365716572 633083 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1365716574 424993 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :somewhere in the rockies < 1365716581 451527 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :on top of an actual Magic: the < 1365716595 730140 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly in a libertarian conclave of some kind < 1365716605 59257 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the < 1365716611 920762 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1365716613 905332 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i missed kmc's joke < 1365716616 964054 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :womp womp < 1365716628 286554 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also doesn't tokyo have mountains < 1365716631 209823 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :did Phantom_Hoover miss kmc's joke < 1365716660 274944 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: why is your username 'help' < 1365716666 421145 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think they have the letter x in japan < 1365716670 174328 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or... "~help" < 1365716675 590062 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :freenode adds the ~ < 1365716702 69434 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :noidentd: if only < 1365716714 902579 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: secret i actually use oidentd < 1365716718 67056 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bc its in the debian repos < 1365716735 625103 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: remember when your username was swell; those were some good times < 1365716741 557552 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it made me think your real name was swell) < 1365716745 229619 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(like you were thomas swell or something) < 1365716758 180603 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :was i in here back when it was 'chap'? < 1365716765 526944 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmmmmmmmmmm maybe < 1365716767 991809 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont remember that though < 1365716809 908916 :ion!ion@heh.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1365716850 751803 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it may have been 'ciao' too at one point but im less sure about that < 1365716891 811000 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also http://blog.cryptographyengineering.com/2013/04/zerocoin-making-bitcoin-anonymous.html is neat < 1365716923 396375 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 523/12 < 1365716925 338018 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 43.583333333333336 < 1365716979 970116 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1365716999 189248 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION realises that it's actually kind of mad that there's a $20 spread in prices from the 4 non-mtgox exchanges on bitcoinity
< 1365717019 617161 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=173227.0 < 1365717077 57014 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yikes < 1365717132 317840 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, the single biggest failure of BTC is that it's inherently deflationary... < 1365717139 151410 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meaning that long-term it's simply not viable. < 1365717221 908884 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But hey, people also support the gold standard. < 1365717228 528863 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so as t→∞ everyone is just hoarding coins and not spending them... but is there some way to incentivize against that < 1365717230 48612 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which has the same problem really. < 1365717232 189852 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :other than modifying the protocol < 1365717247 410878 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: and a lot of the same people supporm both... < 1365717251 451217 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup. < 1365717261 422015 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :'consider linux or os x' < 1365717276 672690 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what, exactly, was the problem with not making it deflationary < 1365717302 34120 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you really truly think Bitcoin is going to last long-term, it's in your best interest to just grab some and sit on it. < 1365717307 908917 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And, like, retire on it. < 1365717323 16278 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if everyone does that and liquidity dries up < 1365717329 713139 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then it fails. :) < 1365717330 717199 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then how do you actually spend your bitcoins on important goods < 1365717350 852568 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay, liquidity crises. < 1365717356 696610 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think maybe that's part of the reason why it's so volatile? or at least part of it, since, like, the number of bitcoins actually trading seems to be a tiny fraction of the total < 1365717374 57910 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the deflationary thing is sufficiently far off that it's not influencing behaivor now < 1365717377 36723 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i could be wrong < 1365717391 761403 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not the deflationary bit but rather just "people are sitting on it" < 1365717396 616596 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: It's actually been deflationary since day one. < 1365717396 811554 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why did it have to be deflationary! i assume there was some reason for it < 1365717401 973962 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: yeah, i know < 1365717408 105080 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As more bitcoins are mined, mining gets harder. < 1365717419 305939 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just think people aren't thinking long term yet < 1365717420 392602 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suspect people aren't *acting* on this, but nevertheless. < 1365717426 985329 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's easier to convince people of the value of something if you can guarantee it will be in limited supply (?) < 1365717427 179200 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that the market is mostly driven by short term bubbly speculation < 1365717437 629402 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: yeah < 1365717447 517355 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :deflation gives you a currency which is worth a lot of dollars which looks good in a way < 1365717451 398475 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it definitely did a good job at recruiting the libertarians -_- < 1365717453 276632 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it hurts your economy < 1365717495 926858 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :people keep telling me that the Right Thing is nominal GDP growth targets < 1365717505 713019 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember hearing that 'satoshi' had mined, like, 500k bitcoins or something < 1365717508 950982 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't really know < 1365717510 137522 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder where those are now... < 1365717567 459329 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's so weird that bitcoin was invented by some anonymous japanese person < 1365717572 967208 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it makes the whole thing like 200% more cyberpunk < 1365717580 958857 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not even sure people are certain it was one person < 1365717595 673967 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also how did i only now notice that 'bitcoin' is one letter off from 'bitchin' < 1365717639 30731 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(bitcoin is actually a stand alone complex!) < 1365717644 484737 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :finally a way to trade virtual chins anonymously < 1365717656 83695 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am going to saw off my own chin and trade it in asap < 1365717707 185738 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i don't think there's any reason to believe it was actually invented by a japanese person < 1365717750 187116 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :some kind of..... weeaboo cypherpunk < 1365717754 211189 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like it might just be oen of the later developers using another name for the initial development < 1365717759 578839 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :for i don't know < 1365717761 104143 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mystique? < 1365717764 91202 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's kind of weird < 1365717768 40372 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you want a japanese thing there's Perfect Dark < 1365717782 234638 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :version 1.02 was called "standalone complex" < 1365717787 557347 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i'm sure the fact that the inventor is unknown appeals to the kind of ancap anonymity type impulse < 1365717788 421944 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maximum cyberpunk go < 1365717790 945760 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I remember reading that the first few 100k bitcoins still haven't been sent anywhere... < 1365717800 397607 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the nazi gold of reddit < 1365717802 237316 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that paper Bike or whoever linked < 1365717806 517129 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so like, whoever invented it is a multi-millionaire < 1365717807 383675 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone know what that november 2010 transaction actually was < 1365717812 293667 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :was it pizza < 1365717816 381334 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm telling you man it's the pizas < 1365717827 873882 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bitcoin, founded upon pizza < 1365717841 594037 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(though, it'd be wonderfully schadenfreudetastic if it turned out satoshi lost hir wallet) < 1365717985 40303 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: hahaha < 1365717992 652558 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the nazi gold of reddit < 1365718309 826579 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if bitcoin does survive, you know that people in 20 years will be looking through every discarded laptop for hidden treasure < 1365718392 65762 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :treasure island w/ bitcoins? < 1365718450 182280 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should get a bunch of blank CDs and write "BITCOINS" on them and hide them in various locations < 1365718465 930768 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe put like, 0.000001 of a bitcoin on each one? < 1365718483 476803 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or 0.000000 < 1365718487 705496 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :who stores things on cds these days < 1365718490 30264 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1365718490 360327 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :xor with a nonce. :) < 1365718514 695292 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think you can fit a paedophile on a disc pikhq < 1365718517 424422 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: nah it should have enough apparent structure that people will go mad trying to decrypt it < 1365718523 928393 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :paedocoins < 1365718542 47136 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh gosh, this reminds me of um... Molyneux's cube thing < 1365718552 656848 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm imagining that, except like, with a promise of a bitcoin wallet in the center < 1365718553 453450 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :curiosity < 1365718555 7246 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CURIOSITY < 1365718558 303210 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHAT'S INSIDE THE CUBE < 1365718562 184439 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thx < 1365718563 666565 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a swarm of redditors trying to get to the center of the cube < 1365718569 736141 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i honestly thought curiosity was a molydeux thing first < 1365718577 145595 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because i first heard of it from molydeux tweets referencing it < 1365718579 780342 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i laughed < 1365718581 823590 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wasn't it what inspired molydeux < 1365718583 265454 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :me too. he's practically self-parody XD < 1365718585 835415 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it's reverse < 1365718592 449383 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it bad when i heard of it i thought it sounded kind of cool < 1365718594 855054 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :molyneux saw molydeux and was inspired to go and quit his job < 1365718597 415834 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and make curiosity < 1365718599 846270 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i0.wp.com/buttcoin.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/mtgoxmagiccard.jpg?resize=223%2C310 < 1365718600 40972 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously < 1365718612 4990 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :art imitates life imitates art < 1365718626 125194 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :have they figured out curiosity yet < 1365718631 897416 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so is it true that mt gox is a repurposed mtg site < 1365718654 480295 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1365718658 872668 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sweet < 1365718668 866556 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :magic the gathering online xchange < 1365718692 348766 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mt.Gox < 1365718700 81086 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1365718784 125591 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hey they stopped trading yesterday < 1365718906 928370 :carado_!~carado@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:221:63ff:fe9a:3747 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365718921 540957 :carado_!~carado@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:221:63ff:fe9a:3747 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1365718986 971862 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there any real-world codebases that use STM? < 1365719172 488075 :ion!ion@heh.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1365719209 148590 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope, they're all in fake worlds < 1365719264 470596 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, code that actually serves a purpose that's not demonstrating STMs < 1365719309 885777 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently the founder of mtgox also made edonkey < 1365719329 592775 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh what < 1365719333 465768 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and is also the guy who made Ripple < 1365719395 929968 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote I've also pretended to be Queen Elizabeth the first, but that was a desperate plea for attention < 1365719400 489808 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :1020) I've also pretended to be Queen Elizabeth the first, but that was a desperate plea for attention < 1365719419 67185 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ripple? < 1365719426 820858 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ripple < 1365719446 662087 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1365719491 239866 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1365719517 136624 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ripple_monetary_system < 1365719520 258562 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was cool before bitcoin! < 1365719530 3475 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and is also more interesting < 1365719574 995627 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wow i've actually heard of htis < 1365719591 890004 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This structure means that it is simple to route payments to and from any participants, but is inherently full of single points of failure, which may also be characterized as single points of control." < 1365719917 188493 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-41-137.public.wayport.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1365719943 305275 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1365719983 440137 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.112 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1365720446 129777 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365720570 95603 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-231-165.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365720612 843719 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: what pdf reader do you use < 1365720627 890025 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1365720708 535412 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1365720943 828092 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1365721134 692141 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :are u gonna write sploit < 1365721151 4104 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :evince mainly, sometimes xpdf, sometimes okular < 1365721154 980340 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes google preview thingy < 1365721395 329630 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I start with pdf.js because my browser renders PDF files using it internally, then find that it’s frustratingly slow and/or renders the file horribly and click the button to open it in evince. < 1365721421 298111 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: wow xpdf really < 1365721446 950224 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like xpdf’s magnifier tool. < 1365721452 850956 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: hm, what browser? < 1365721455 999283 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Firefox < 1365721469 23587 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh. < 1365721540 312039 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :xpdf works even when evince is broken due to gnome bullshit < 1365721548 406299 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also consumes less ram or something < 1365721562 233462 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don’t remember evince being broken ever. But sure, xpdf uses less resources. < 1365721570 787922 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mozilla doesn't want Adobe to cash in on the lucrative user frustration market < 1365721580 871738 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :next: swf.js < 1365721611 937276 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, SWF already uses JS for scripting. :-P < 1365721638 197752 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm fond of mupdf personally. < 1365721698 459 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the firefox reader has been kind of frustrating for me, it works some of the time but on some files the table of contents window just doesn't work, like, I can't click on an entry to jump to it < 1365721702 704660 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is really painful for 1500-page pdfs < 1365721719 445408 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, pdf.js seems rather silly. < 1365721729 746087 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i avoid reading 1500 page pdfs < 1365721735 936266 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :PDF readers have issues being slow *without* running on a rather strange VM. < 1365721740 769972 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maintains my inner balance < 1365721753 640123 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have much choice if I need to read intel manuals :< < 1365721766 886162 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, you have found another way in which i maintain my inner balance. < 1365721776 378429 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mupdf is pretty nice though. UI's kinda meh, but it's freaking awesome at rendering efficiently. < 1365721786 954012 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-231-165.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1365721812 855161 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i use evince < 1365721817 485915 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i kind of want some kind of pdf manager < 1365721825 279517 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i don't have to keep remembering what 58324.pdf is or whatever < 1365721826 889800 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-165.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mendeley? < 1365721832 678449 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i could give them proper names < 1365721834 38624 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's work < 1365721840 333145 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-165.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i give them proper names every few weeks < 1365721856 134669 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I use Calibre. < 1365721856 328813 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-165.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :when I notice Downloads/48191_1891final.pdf\ (3) and decide enough is enough < 1365721856 329000 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mendeley was recently acquired by satan or something < 1365721864 920868 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: is this some kind of web based thing < 1365721875 251733 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-165.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: no Downloads is my folder for downloads. < 1365721880 938445 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-165.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: elsevier? < 1365721884 352482 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i mean < 1365721884 609820 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah them < 1365721885 173566 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mendeley < 1365721894 296263 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-165.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. Uh, maybe? < 1365721900 470851 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this looks sort of like something i have no hope of using on linux < 1365721903 45473 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also use Calibre to convert and send files to my Kindle. But i used it just to maintain a library of various ebooks, papers etc. before i had a Kindle. < 1365721916 923616 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-165.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I'm pretty sure enough academics use it for them to support it... < 1365721920 368567 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it has a linux version hmm < 1365721945 638957 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-165.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, now that it's Elsevier i'll need a goat to sacrifice to soil myself enough to use it, though < 1365721947 270914 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would prefer something open source because i am a dweeb, but it certainly looks featureful < 1365721956 953505 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-165.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_reference_management_software ah wikipedia < 1365721958 685751 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It’s open-source. < 1365721962 201821 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it < 1365721967 780662 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean mendeley < 1365721968 996181 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not calibre < 1365721971 548676 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1365721979 71855 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :calibre... might work for my needs < 1365721982 120992 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there was that one security bug report < 1365721988 471978 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that makes it impossible for me to take the developer seriously < 1365722005 950543 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-165.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh? < 1365722014 45917 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :What bug report was that? < 1365722028 571674 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://bugs.launchpad.net/calibre/+bug/885027 < 1365722041 192692 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's no longer relevant and didn't matter to anyone who used major distro packages for it, but < 1365722045 769027 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-165.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh man that < 1365722048 912101 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the dev's attitude is really awful and eyeroll-y < 1365722053 755560 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i am biased against the program now < 1365722080 112248 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-165.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I dont see how 1-3 are security vulnerabilities." wow i forgot how terrible this was < 1365722081 158496 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hah, awesome < 1365722111 433313 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fix committed for the latest exploit. Feel free to re-open if you find another < 1365722111 627716 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :exploit based on 4. < 1365722111 627806 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :status fixreleased < 1365722114 26265 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :exploit PoC 2.1 Edit (2.9 KiB, text/x-sh) < 1365722114 220695 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Updated the exploit. < 1365722116 796953 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, realpath() < 1365722116 991143 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :status fixreleased < 1365722123 838453 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-165.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"4 is a vulnerability only if < 1365722126 825093 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-165.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mount itself is vulnerable to command line injection." hahaha < 1365722130 44844 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure if you keep patching it over it'll be fine! < 1365722136 107585 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-165.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :god i totally forgot about this it's amazing < 1365722230 355025 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is that elsevier boycott going < 1365722299 514719 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-165.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that one legislative thing got defeated a billion years ago so fine as far as i'm concerned < 1365722353 377077 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wooow. that bug report thread. < 1365722367 103548 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-165.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Until this comment, I was on the side of fixing with the exploits. Now, as far as I am concerned you should go play frisbee on a freeway." < 1365722371 248715 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gosh, that guy is almost reminiscent of drepper. < 1365722379 130660 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-165.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :things get heated in the high-stakes world of launchpad < 1365722397 556693 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1365722431 317000 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hell is trying to find the superscript for a footnote you missed < 1365722446 848770 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-165.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/9985757/Iranian-scientist-claims-to-have-invented-time-machine.html anyway < 1365722454 257678 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHAT ARE YOU COMMENTING ON REVEAL YOUR SECRETS TO ME < 1365722500 248908 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: lol < 1365722554 530527 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b7c93.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365722567 235206 :Lymia!~moe@108-205-143-75.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365722567 680369 :Lymia!~moe@108-205-143-75.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Changing host < 1365722567 874152 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1365722609 146277 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-165.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razeghi said his latest project has been criticised by friends and relatives for "trying to play God" with ordinary lives and history. < 1365722673 291620 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION laughed at “Ah, realpath(). status fixreleased”
< 1365722782 398148 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist < 1365722783 931143 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1365722863 464625 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, so it is safe for me to use Calibre on Linux? < 1365722871 752062 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I may have been avoiding it somewhat < 1365722897 928839 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-165.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably nobody's going to exploit it, the dev is just kind of a fool i guess < 1365722910 974228 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the dev gave in eventually < 1365722919 888033 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course that's only the one bug we know about < 1365722937 733505 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-165.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well it's the only binary that's suid, isn't it? < 1365722952 877827 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-165.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently Fedora and probably other distros just remove that binary anyway. < 1365723019 729711 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can have bad exploits without root < 1365723027 454128 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like your browser doesn't run as root either < 1365723204 809614 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: sure an attacker can get my gmail password and all of my other passwords and basically take over my life and all my money, but that's no use if they can't send raw IP packets or set the system clock < 1365723219 842457 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-165.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn straight < 1365723463 381898 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh man, another Calibre developer, Charles Haley (cbhaley), decided to join the discussion with a constructive message. < 1365723768 974505 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i should chown more things root < 1365723805 125467 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1365723810 485577 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :alias yolo=sudo < 1365723907 374914 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a decent email client yet < 1365723913 96760 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like can i stop using gmail < 1365724045 499646 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1365724158 299813 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1365724229 459605 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PART :#esoteric < 1365724237 900388 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365724420 834477 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1365724620 881911 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :“Every time I was convinced of the existence of an actual exploit, I have attempted to fix it. Maybe my fixes were naive, but dont forget that it's a lot easier to find holes in something, than to build somethig without holes in the first place.” < 1365725284 652026 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT : < 1365725299 651887 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :“I also admire him for not playing the racism card.” WAT < 1365725348 110263 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-165.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :orientals. wow. < 1365725498 248424 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@ool-44c66823.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365725510 285800 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@ool-44c66823.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1365725543 301291 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1365726335 197229 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-179-240.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1365726351 435855 :bengt_!weed@ya.lolk.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1365726409 108628 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think he's trying to be Linus Torvalds, except Linux actually knows what he's talking about < 1365726412 123274 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Linus* < 1365726623 539184 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :itt: linus torvalds is a shit role model < 1365726791 834253 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trying to imitate his attitude without having the credentials is bound to end up bad < 1365726830 789669 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ais523 You seem to have missed User:EzraFrier < 1365726831 227194 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1365726835 604303 :bengt_!weed@ya.lolk.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1365726848 583146 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you shouldn't emulate his attitude regardless < 1365726849 263582 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yes < 1365726934 929704 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :constant < 1365727110 343978 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://bugs.launchpad.net/calibre/+bug/885027/comments/90 < 1365727222 255816 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-165.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the hell is the GNAA < 1365727227 295500 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-165.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. oh. < 1365727241 834051 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: being right about technical matters is really no excuse for being an asshole < 1365727258 846894 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: gnus against acronyms < 1365727278 691136 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and Torvalds takes it a step further, he takes pride in offending people and thinks that if you're offended that's good because you deserve to be offended < 1365729118 895928 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365729168 579834 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.178.34 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1365729206 197041 :augur!~augur@c-98-218-127-183.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365729428 930563 :augur!~augur@c-98-218-127-183.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1365729845 687443 :augur!~augur@c-98-218-127-183.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365730071 651223 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1365730584 435615 :dessos!~dessos@c-174-60-176-249.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1365730710 505184 :dessos!~dessos@c-174-60-176-249.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365730828 606720 :augur!~augur@c-98-218-127-183.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1365731105 446501 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1365731550 136031 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION throws a FactoryBean at the channel
< 1365731585 223384 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-165.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AGH FUCK MY EYE < 1365731597 453629 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Wow, you're into some extreme stuff. < 1365731630 516197 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-165.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh haha that was just an expression, i meant to fuck my dessicated elbow, on the ground there < 1365731948 781345 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: ?? < 1365731990 184348 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FactoryBean. A bean that acts as a factory. < 1365732001 345330 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :???????? < 1365732034 416234 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-165.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :get with the program, monqy. < 1365732047 719475 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1365732052 511610 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you know what he's talking about, bike? < 1365732053 231920 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a Factory that has one specific way of retrieving a created object from it, and can have other properties, so can be configured in XML and you don't point at the factory directly when you want an instance from it < 1365732069 149873 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-165.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no but i don't really care so i'm just rolling with it < 1365732081 659061 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would you throw that at the channel < 1365732173 427307 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi monqy < 1365732179 30985 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi shachaf < 1365732188 775060 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you get my numerous @tells and @asks < 1365732196 649476 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1365732201 159108 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was that last one about < 1365732217 870384 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't remember < 1365732229 946950 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i usually forget as soon as i send them (or even before!!!!??) < 1365732233 386043 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :something about friendship monqys, lots of !!!s < 1365732236 562397 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1365732240 224803 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? monqy < 1365732242 641696 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The friendship monqy is an ancient Chinese mystery; ask itidus21 for details. < 1365732247 80723 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter PART :#esoteric < 1365732259 632581 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't explain anything… < 1365732269 570122 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know it only raises more questions < 1365732275 415111 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :like: what is the friendship monqy < 1365732279 794932 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1365732285 824634 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you can answer < 1365732290 136232 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :since itidus21 is gone < 1365732305 823975 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i sure don't know < 1365732328 974000 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am pretty sure Journey to the West is involved somehow. < 1365732329 392910 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1365732342 160081 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth. < 1365732547 748440 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was impressed that dragons 3.5 times as many balls as I do < 1365732574 486731 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does?? < 1365732586 904707 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*has < 1365732593 237776 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*have < 1365732607 400588 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's hard to get my corrections correct < 1365732917 926791 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My job might literally save someone's life. < 1365733112 93431 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you make no-skid tape for bathtubs? < 1365733172 638084 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's more than one way to save life's, doesthiswork < 1365733186 852840 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't you work at an isp < 1365733195 369670 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example you could install the no-skid tape < 1365733204 364605 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a very important step the in life saving procedure < 1365733209 139450 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because of this job, I'm eating more, which is pushing me over 110 lbs, which means I can donate blood, which I plan to. < 1365733220 66588 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: monqy how do you save life's monqy < 1365733229 935040 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: eating a lot < 1365733235 850969 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :good thinking < 1365733247 426142 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i eat a lot will i save life ' s < 1365733253 691484 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably < 1365733270 289821 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could also save lives by eating less < 1365733277 849269 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :many way s to save lives < 1365733288 193971 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no < 1365733295 945963 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about by eating exactly as much as im eating < 1365733298 848180 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"but on purpose" < 1365733310 743088 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1365733314 269375 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd have to think about that! < 1365733353 811195 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :think monqy think < 1365733387 689696 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :···processing··· < 1365733388 812449 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've come to the conclusion that you'll probably save ~the same # of lives regardless of how much you eat < 1365733397 737399 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no < 1365733419 471124 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it because i have no free will < 1365733424 323263 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1365733431 672399 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're better off with the no-skid tape < 1365733440 586472 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :think of the gain in life if you were a spermdonar < 1365733464 39201 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :much more efficient use of fluid than blood donation < 1365733502 370976 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if you donate both fluids < 1365733516 320299 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: well they're interchangeable arent they.. < 1365733541 466479 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think so, shachaf < 1365734074 518467 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: can i have more monqy wisdom < 1365734108 996892 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1365734140 613659 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks that was a good one < 1365734312 598838 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1365734733 51966 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: can i have less monqy wisdom < 1365734749 914323 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you sure that's a good idea < 1365734774 257680 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do i need more monqy wisdom to decide if less monqy wisdom is a good idea < 1365734782 473756 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :its a bad idea.................................................................................. < 1365734787 582501 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks shachaf < 1365734802 417930 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ywonqy < 1365734814 120607 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i just called you wonqy btw) < 1365734821 467445 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it happens < 1365734851 483604 :bengt_!weed@ya.lolk.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1365734855 1799 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah not capitalizing I hurts < 1365734877 590534 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: why does you hurts < 1365734885 682895 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :not capitalizing is not a crime < 1365734896 653341 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :were you trying out 'monqyspeak' < 1365734903 224904 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(what is that???) < 1365734918 347618 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(idont know but it sounds good) < 1365734925 776766 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(can i be a monqyspeak) < 1365734933 532867 :GOMADWarrior!~Regis@189.34.44.144 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1365734946 716591 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i've heard someone say it before..i'll have to check my logs < 1365734952 241815 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!logs < 1365734960 508571 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ciao < 1365734963 183323 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :!list < 1365734972 249884 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey monqy guess where i am < 1365734989 870090 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are in the universe hth < 1365735007 709494 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365735032 375068 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :universe more like coolniverse < 1365735047 167553 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the joke is monqy++ < 1365735069 731011 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: is capitalizing a capital crime? < 1365735138 317971 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan oerjan oerjan bama'agal nachoerjan < 1365735156 249412 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ive been pronouncing your nick "as if it was dutch sorry about that" < 1365735218 521806 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :horrijble < 1365735886 638863 :bengt_!weed@ya.lolk.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1365736387 583551 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-179-240.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365736845 540993 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1365736889 279947 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: fix your subjunctive mood plox < 1365736924 807177 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: no < 1365736929 2359 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i reject "if it were" < 1365736942 437142 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ahem. < 1365736945 998942 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/no/No./ < 1365736947 93524 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh okay < 1365736948 992302 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1365736949 910883 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/i/I/ s/$/./ < 1365736954 823867 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sounds better you know < 1365736957 80983 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1365736959 786675 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it sounds worse. < 1365736963 64377 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you like sounding worse < 1365736972 454641 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like sounding better. < 1365736979 252722 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :checkmate < 1365737009 424868 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :then use the correct subjunctive and you can sound better like me and the rest of the high-prestige dialecters < 1365737038 596239 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma+ quintopia.prestige < 1365737039 98956 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia.prestige's karma raised to 1. < 1365737769 807494 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I added something in RogueVM that was missing: Now there is a file for enumeration to make up names of the possible values that a configuration parameter can have. There is also the specification for a "death message" in the high-score list. < 1365737821 26178 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is this better now? < 1365737902 462726 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it possible for a good serious philosophical text to be written consisting entirely of questions? < 1365737957 898729 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1365738534 435955 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b7c93.pool.mediaWays.net QUIT :Quit: hagb4rd < 1365738540 696542 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1365738687 630166 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: "I finally said it, my startup failed. Fuck. I felt like I was coming out of the closet when I first stated it aloud to my co-founder." < 1365738691 22596 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: thought u would appreciate < 1365738706 970954 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :~_~ < 1365738711 354584 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1365738715 137248 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :o well < 1365738798 359983 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-165.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the hell < 1365738812 911269 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-165.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like beyond the general what-ness, if the startup failed how would the cofounder not know < 1365738842 141102 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :admitting something very risky didn't work -- totally the same as coming out about ones' sexuality < 1365738878 69399 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-165.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i mean in this terrible, horrible analogy, isn't the cofounder like some homogendered person you've been going out with < 1365738911 355285 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-165.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aren't they all in the closet. the closet must encapsulate the founders right < 1365740327 534493 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365740374 531902 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote :D :D oh man.. i wonder if they ever made chess variants based off of animes < 1365740378 830489 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :1021) :D :D oh man.. i wonder if they ever made chess variants based off of animes < 1365740385 50302 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for some reason this quote has vanished from the qdb < 1365740390 24449 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :now it's back < 1365740420 408974 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i miss itidus21 < 1365740434 568867 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sort of < 1365741760 34378 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1365741812 878099 :Gregor!codu@codu.org QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1365741855 311484 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT : < 1365743166 282847 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1365743591 992209 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Make up some such chess variant if you want. Actually I made "Kira Chess" which is based on "Death Note". < 1365743600 113855 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There may be others too; I don't know. < 1365743707 58575 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: i thought you would have < 1365743772 950663 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-165.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: so do you not care about the twoducks thing? < 1365743813 306958 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Actually I don't know the answer. Post on the talk page. < 1365743875 437970 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would like to see the discussion, so put it in the talk page. < 1365743879 590597 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the talk page already contains a TC-ness discussion < 1365743887 113410 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-165.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll see what I can d- oh, huh. < 1365743888 984283 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can discuss in here too if you have something to say, of course. < 1365743910 173586 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-165.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well it seems TC to me, he disagreed, based on Aaronson's work on computation in CTCs. < 1365743951 316620 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It may be interesting. Can you please be more specific? < 1365744006 149397 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the twoducks thing < 1365744075 252717 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-165.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Friend and I got into an argument about whether it was computable. < 1365744100 563316 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-165.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't really understand what he meant, which is why I thought you'd be better off talking to hi, if you cared. < 1365744106 459425 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-165.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll show him the talk page and see what happens. < 1365744108 565475 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm pretty sure it's not computbale < 1365744109 983498 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :computable < 1365744512 661635 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can all statements of number theory be made into programs which halt if and only if the statement is true? What is the required computation class to do this, if it is possible at all? < 1365744966 299717 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post%27s_theorem looks relevant < 1365744998 122809 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarski-Kuratowski_algorithm < 1365745084 61539 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, I will look < 1365745241 489933 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but to summarize, whenever you switch between universal and existential quantifiers, you need to add another level of halting oracle < 1365745248 6732 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :iiuc < 1365745270 315213 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is what I thought, actually. < 1365745334 33749 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it might be something like that, so know I can know better that it is something like that. < 1365745824 583829 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1365748524 850613 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.112 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365748705 295298 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1365750034 507562 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1365750651 821714 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.178.34 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365750952 758299 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.178.34 QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1365751001 993085 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1365751113 862891 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.112 QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1365751814 882978 :carado!~carado@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:221:63ff:fe9a:3747 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365751895 529883 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-165.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1365752153 793432 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1365753476 464790 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1365753930 571097 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1365753945 266224 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1365754854 593007 :ion!ion@heh.fi QUIT :Quit: server maintenance < 1365756047 860611 :ion!ion@heh.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1365756908 507858 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365757576 357899 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1365758493 858283 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-60.dataart.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365758709 910873 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I managed to make a Z-machine assembler working. < 1365759019 918770 :ion!ion@heh.fi QUIT :Quit: more server maintenance < 1365759531 25601 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1365759745 240778 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365759853 898670 :yiyus!1242712427@je.je.je QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1365760245 862853 :ion!ion@heh.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1365760444 913685 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony JOIN :#esoteric < 1365760783 35138 :yiyus!1242712427@je.je.je JOIN :#esoteric < 1365760848 664615 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist < 1365760856 298140 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1365760868 48947 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Potato. < 1365761019 262427 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: wow i was just thinking "nice sarcasm, taneb's growing up" < 1365761021 155275 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you ruined it < 1365761034 672172 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, sarcasm makes me uncomfortable < 1365761062 378122 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have two many sarcastic frienemies < 1365761110 730245 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :only two? < 1365761126 164474 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, two many < 1365761133 499159 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Imagine many sarcastic frienemies < 1365761139 847358 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have precisely twice that amount < 1365761241 997143 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you mean "two[U+2062 INVISIBLE TIMES]many". < 1365761383 131819 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, my invisible times key is broken < 1365761433 800995 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-60.dataart.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1365761456 14569 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :My invisible times key is invisible :/ < 1365761469 86702 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never been able to figure out where it is < 1365761476 161123 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I like Ghoul_ < 1365761497 929408 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION reads logs to gain much needed context
< 1365761583 479548 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ThatOtherPerson, #haskell < 1365761587 186209 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1365761675 406779 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well this is a waste of time < 1365761690 834368 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :good thing mauke is more persistent than I am < 1365761714 615263 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've seen that name somewhere. < 1365761728 165720 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, #perl. < 1365761754 709523 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Is it legal to be a Perl and a Haskell guy at the same time?) < 1365761756 112404 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also #esoteric < 1365761769 384835 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :for a while < 1365761780 116300 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think he might be both a #haskell op and a #perl op too < 1365761793 354260 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :double impossible < 1365761820 393288 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(INVISIBLE TIMES actually exists? huh.) < 1365761978 320164 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Along with INVISIBLE SEPARATOR and INVISIBLE PLUS, and the still-invisible-but-not-explicitly-so FUNCTION APPLICATION. < 1365762064 868069 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not to mention the zero-width space < 1365762080 422414 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps they dared not to name it INVISIBLE FUNCTION APPLICATION, fearing that people would interpret it as (INVISIBLE FUNCTION) APPLICATION instead of INVISIBLE (FUNCTION APPLICATION). < 1365762096 422567 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :... unicode is kinda weird < 1365762139 599547 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"May you live in INVISIBLE TIMES." --Old Chinese proverb. (It can look confusing when written with the proper Unicode.) < 1365762230 224758 :GOMADWarrior!~Regis@189.34.44.144 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365762233 760103 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365762420 981042 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :May you live in ⁢ < 1365762432 504739 :ion!ion@heh.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1365762435 241950 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> length "⁢" < 1365762435 436324 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval: recoverEncode: invalid argument (invalid character) < 1365762448 510617 :ion_!ion@heh.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1365762462 546227 :ion_!ion@heh.fi NICK :ion < 1365762493 687097 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1365762510 921449 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.178.34 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365762542 533454 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony JOIN :#esoteric < 1365763036 905518 :ion!ion@heh.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1365763317 759327 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1365764061 531982 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365764292 220132 :GOMADWarrior!~Regis@189.34.44.144 QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1365764714 757219 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.115.210.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've had 4 parcels go missing in a month. From 4 different consignees. 1 in 1430 chance of each going missing. There's more chance of winning the lottery twice in a week. < 1365766263 458124 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1365766340 939055 :carado_!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365766446 273105 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365766606 905731 :carado_!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1365767505 499291 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony JOIN :#esoteric < 1365767557 964442 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.178.34 QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1365767701 495843 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-179-240.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1365768327 897933 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365768504 894364 :kallisti!~eris@168.28.136.16 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365768505 361891 :kallisti!~eris@168.28.136.16 QUIT :Changing host < 1365768505 555130 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1365768510 193365 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1365769029 994404 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1365769604 111063 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1365769720 650322 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365769825 651009 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i agree < 1365769850 86006 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, I didn't think I was capable of that < 1365769888 881223 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wasnt talking to you < 1365769914 268016 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps Taneb wasn't talking to you either < 1365769932 846316 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Considering that you both said something at the same time < 1365769937 506970 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed, the most likely scenario is that we were having completely separate conversations < 1365769948 925811 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365769973 824077 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only way that Taneb could have been responding to you would be if Taneb was a bot < 1365770049 345023 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: by the way, if you are a bot, I believe that you have passed the Turing test < 1365770055 190981 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sweet! < 1365770070 683055 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You hear that, fungot? I'm better than you! < 1365770071 54182 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: other than the ones than ran on vacuum tubes, from the outside) < 1365770110 871632 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I am not a bot. < 1365770121 589378 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was referring to the fact that I think I have a girlfriend now < 1365770171 205390 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think bots normally have girlfriends < 1365770181 96501 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have a girlfriend, fungot? < 1365770181 288298 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ThatOtherPerson: there's two. < 1365770184 326508 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1365770189 366002 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, what a lad. < 1365770189 631223 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: the previous ones. like fnord is an interesting problem < 1365770200 989427 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? quoteformat < 1365770202 167567 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently I was wrong. < 1365770203 162390 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :quoteformat? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1365770229 252274 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote Do you have a girlfriend, fungot? ThatOtherPerson: there's two. < 1365770229 749523 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: the stuff ' between' built-in module systems, is a _string_ of things, not including srfi 1. < 1365770233 371084 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :1022) Do you have a girlfriend, fungot? ThatOtherPerson: there's two. < 1365770256 268186 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1365770275 71918 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote no not markov < 1365770276 863211 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :574) Ngevd:. i'm so kind, even to assholes! anmaster no not markov anmaster no not markov anmaster no not markov anmaster no not markov anmaster no not markov < 1365770285 438382 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: wow one too many spaces!!! < 1365770287 230430 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot's lucidness comes and goes < 1365770287 798038 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: pastebin that is not of interest to the mud, so people who like c, perl, and php apps right now < 1365770294 903532 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I always get it wrong :( < 1365770475 104821 :hogeyui!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1365770497 868151 :hogeyui!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz JOIN :#esoteric < 1365770568 354328 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1365770820 287080 :ion!ion@heh.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1365771847 656107 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365771851 510738 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365772056 68192 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1365772084 11293 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365772350 103565 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1365772822 870415 :carado!~carado@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:221:63ff:fe9a:3747 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1365774275 509707 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony JOIN :#esoteric < 1365774314 287506 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :⁢ < 1365774344 698829 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...quite < 1365774354 914935 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> length "⁢" < 1365774355 498950 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval: recoverEncode: invalid argument (invalid character) < 1365774369 532001 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I think that's invisible times < 1365774370 762414 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval length "⁢" < 1365774371 564250 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓ < 1365774373 767772 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Error (1): < 1365774396 969966 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval length "" < 1365774398 440776 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 < 1365774432 19088 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, those quotes aren't empty < 1365774439 87982 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1365774452 315842 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :try again, mu-eval had to be loaded into RAM. < 1365774475 462413 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval length "⁢" < 1365774476 306253 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Error (1): :1:9: < 1365774476 497832 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric : lexical error in string/character literal at character '\8290' < 1365774480 803423 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢ there < 1365774504 90448 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1365774505 67325 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ try selecting that < 1365774518 120933 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, my client has quite a problem with it < 1365774525 37396 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval "hello⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢ there" == "hello there" < 1365774525 827827 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Error (1): :1:7: < 1365774526 20640 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric : lexical error in string/character literal at character '\8290' < 1365774591 32732 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval showHex 8290 "" < 1365774591 818968 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Error (1): Not in scope: `showHex' < 1365774636 569430 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval showHex 8290 "" < 1365774642 266518 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"2062" < 1365774647 628969 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :⁢ < 1365774696 455730 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1365774745 732247 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval length "hello\8290there" < 1365774746 785093 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :11 < 1365775200 58708 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1365775348 23296 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it bad that I know Owen Wilson best for acting in a terrible movie that is also fictional? < 1365775441 369350 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which movie is that? < 1365775449 866613 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most movies that I know of are fictional. < 1365775513 571540 :GOMADWarrior!~Regis@189.34.44.144 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365775546 70221 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ThatOtherPerson, Sweet Bro and Hella Jeff: The Movie < 1365775557 262026 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1365775569 329170 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Starring Owen Wilson as Hella Jeff and Ben Stiller as Sweet Bro < 1365775570 908587 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, that's more fictional then most movies < 1365775643 172538 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is also terrible. < 1365775653 715217 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think there is any movie that is more terrible. < 1365775662 435691 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think it would be possible. < 1365775704 42991 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...he also played Lightning McQueen in Cars < 1365775825 936338 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just had an excellent idea for a movie! < 1365775847 531593 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would be a movie about making the movie... erm, the movie which is itself < 1365775857 480774 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds a bit like Marble Hornets < 1365775860 864692 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :RECURSION MAN 420 < 1365775861 334329 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well < 1365775878 740962 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It sounds like what Marble Hornets would have been if it wasn't a horror story < 1365775894 243623 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would be the closest thing to a quine that a movie can be! < 1365775940 683899 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could make a movie where the video is a quine in Piet and the soundtrack is a quine in I think Fugue < 1365775974 651896 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, I have bad news < 1365775999 254902 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, someone should extend Piet so that it can run movie files < 1365776010 177989 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It can run animated gifs, ish < 1365776017 924852 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it would be more or less three dimensional < 1365776049 782469 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'd need to define the size of the three-dimensional voxels < 1365776060 417940 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seeing as time is a different "thing" to pixel size < 1365776088 387393 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess a frame would be equivalent to the size of a pixel < 1365776107 663530 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it's something like a .GIF, frames could have different lengths < 1365776117 291602 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, I guess someone could try making Befunge three dimensional as well < 1365776126 336471 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Been done < 1365776136 974246 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :except for the part where it is extremely difficult to type in 3d < 1365776151 452016 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, what's the bad news < 1365776151 679932 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :funge-98 already specifies 3-dimensional funge < 1365776159 482186 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, "Noodle Soup" < 1365776178 506570 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy mary mother of god < 1365776180 400387 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so soon... < 1365776190 756420 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1365776192 217156 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll... i'll start the protocol < 1365776214 734645 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ThatOtherPerson, http://esolangs.org/wiki/Noodle_Soup < 1365776217 371838 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, now executing contingency MARPLE < 1365776222 275334 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: hi < 1365776226 91030 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, this is new < 1365776226 388237 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i... oh < 1365776232 75128 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ABORT MARPLE < 1365776253 871008 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb you have to be clearer with these things < 1365776261 832958 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl soup < 1365776273 524170 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1365776285 980796 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: ah, that's what I thought all programming languages looked like when I was six < 1365776329 651847 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ThatOtherPerson, I remember typing in a terminal in a computer in my garage when I was three < 1365776346 521183 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I thought all computer programs had to be white text on a black background < 1365776357 158553 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1365776398 309159 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :The first time I used the Command Prompt in Windows was when I was ten < 1365776405 984573 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :It really amazed me for some reason < 1365776425 499989 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db4145b.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365776459 216518 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :And if I ever use a command line at school people look over my shoulder and ask me, in wonder, what I am hacking < 1365776487 512490 :Gregor!codu@codu.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1365776633 161992 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365776671 445377 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-162-212.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1365776702 727894 :ThatOtherPersonY!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony JOIN :#esoteric < 1365776714 56304 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1365776721 655581 :ThatOtherPersonY!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony NICK :ThatOtherPerson < 1365777346 56754 :super13!~super13@host-212-18-30-50.customer.m-online.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365778178 916136 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db4145b.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :when i was young, program code was like white text on blue screen (which was a significant improvement to that green on black monochrome era).. but we peeked and poked it just the way we wanted to < 1365778213 613396 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net NICK :Taneb < 1365778235 440406 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db4145b.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but green on black is coming back again < 1365778247 605681 :super14!~super13@host-212-18-30-50.customer.m-online.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365778261 871528 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hagb4rd: green on black is retro and hip. < 1365778292 200052 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only time I suffered through white on blue was with word perfect on 5¼ floppies. < 1365778328 203648 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db4145b.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, i like that writer addon for chrome..do you know it? < 1365778358 389187 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://hackertyper.net/ < 1365778365 363637 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db4145b.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it even has that typewriter sounds <3 < 1365778395 35979 :super13!~super13@host-212-18-30-50.customer.m-online.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1365778461 377653 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: L0L < 1365778482 817061 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a leet LOL < 1365778505 191893 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db4145b.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://writer.bighugelabs.com/?chrome=1 < 1365778535 775381 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db4145b.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the colors are cool.. but the font sucks < 1365778544 357233 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db4145b.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hackertyper < 1365778544 721862 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1365778564 411622 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db4145b.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but all in all that's it < 1365778566 13667 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :@lisp < 1365778566 436718 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://code.haskell.org/lambdabot/COMMANDS < 1365778596 926686 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@yhjulwwiefzojcbxybbruweejw < 1365778598 412816 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"\"#$%&'()*+,\"" < 1365778608 911773 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tuple "hello" < 1365778610 224175 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :[Char] < 1365778617 207706 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@yhjulwwiefzojcbxybbruweejw < 1365778617 400483 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Exception: <> < 1365778658 799851 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db4145b.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@yhjulwwiefzojcbxybbruweejw < 1365778659 346771 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"\"\\\"\\\\\\\"\\\\\\" < 1365778693 131331 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@yhjulwwiefzojcbxybbruweejw < 1365778693 723829 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"\"#$%&'()*+,\"" < 1365778710 701676 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> iterate show "" < 1365778712 193521 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : ["","\"\"","\"\\\"\\\"\"","\"\\\"\\\\\\\"\\\\\\\"\\\"\"","\"\\\"\\\\\\\"\\\... < 1365778737 400471 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map (map length . group) $ iterate show "" < 1365778739 251331 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [[],[2],[1,1,1,1,2],[1,1,1,3,1,3,1,1,2],[1,1,1,3,1,7,1,7,1,3,1,1,2],[1,1,1,... < 1365778741 309278 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval iterate show "" < 1365778742 110078 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :["","\"\"","\"\\\"\\\"\"","\"\\\"\\\\\\\"\\\\\\\"\\\"\"","\"\\\"\\\\\\\"\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"\\\\\\\"\\\"\"","\"\\\"\\\\\\\"\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"\\\\\\\"\\\"\"","\"\\\"\\\\\\\"\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ < 1365778744 940739 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :> iterate (iterate show) < 1365778746 600596 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match type `GHC.Base.String' with `GHC.Types.Char' < 1365778752 825484 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :wattattattattat < 1365778760 934850 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :> iterate (fix error) < 1365778762 607228 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `a0 -> a0' < 1365778762 800113 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : with actual type `[GHC... < 1365778770 246064 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix iterate < 1365778771 742200 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Occurs check: cannot construct the infinite type: a0 = [a0] < 1365778781 435388 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh come on. be cool. < 1365778834 449578 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~yi < 1365778834 858489 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your divination: "Field" to "Field" < 1365779266 587133 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1365779546 332925 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix (undefined) < 1365779547 834656 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : *Exception: Prelude.undefined < 1365779566 171248 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map group $ iterate show "" < 1365779567 856432 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [[],["\"\""],["\"","\\","\"","\\","\"\""],["\"","\\","\"","\\\\\\","\"","\\... < 1365779590 633424 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1365779635 92690 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map (map text . group) $ iterate show "" < 1365779636 582132 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [[],[""],[",\,",\,""],[",\,",\\\,",\\\,",\,""],[",\,",\\\,",\\\\\\\,",\\\\\... < 1365780321 855290 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote ThatOtherPerson < 1365780323 902613 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :1022) Do you have a girlfriend, fungot? ThatOtherPerson: there's two. < 1365780330 756474 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bahahaha < 1365780344 363698 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: ^5 < 1365780345 99201 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: it's only the win32 directory. ( about perl arrays) i think i associate it with pretentiousness and lack of active development. while a certain level of code maturity before throwing a language into the mix < 1365780519 110381 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty sane philosophy. < 1365780576 293523 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: do your girlfriends know each other? are they cool with it? do they also have sexytimes together? < 1365780576 991608 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: it was very effective, but its not working for me either. i would always use when unless over a single branch cond... the name is passed as argument 0 < 1365780589 676077 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: sorry to hear it's not working for you :/ < 1365780590 43610 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: it also doesn't fully explain fnord.... tell her i'm your cousin! < 1365780595 174164 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: will do < 1365780595 392771 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i was half-joking. < 1365780613 533207 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, fungot's lucidness is worrying < 1365780613 923352 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: being flexible data structures, because you can't free in python, you'll like it < 1365780617 944892 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc and fungot are related? < 1365780618 390616 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: so about half real dumb way ( and doing 250 iterations) :) y z i think it deserves a mention, of course < 1365780880 280668 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're related within 250 iterations I guess < 1365780895 742631 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i'm related to everyone alive today within 250 iterations? < 1365780987 130745 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm not quite < 1365781042 958428 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think everyone is at least 99% isomorphic to anybody else. < 1365781101 190762 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like the most recent common ancestor of all living humans was like 2,000 - 4,000 years ago < 1365781130 208251 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is probably just a bit more than 250 generations < 1365781151 837039 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote unborn sister < 1365781152 765552 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :with 30 year generations, it's around approximatively about 300 generations. < 1365781153 532499 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :32) i'm my dad's unborn sister < 1365781168 871705 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :historically, generations are probably a lot shorter < 1365781171 664406 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can imagine kmc and Phantom_Hoover being relatively closely related < 1365781185 752030 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that because they're both grumpy < 1365781194 271681 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365781204 793271 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm currently reading “Time Enough for Love”. the prospect of long-lived humans makes for very strange genealogical mutant loopy trees. < 1365781236 418427 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, it's because I seem to remember kmc having a scottish-y/irish-y surname, and Phantom_Hoover is scottish-y/irish-y < 1365781245 856522 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOGIC < 1365781250 79278 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony JOIN :#esoteric < 1365781269 123261 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i'm a McAllister < 1365781284 352656 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I have recent-ish British ancestors < 1365781292 859614 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mine are irish. < 1365781293 564836 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haven't much looked into it though < 1365781333 383067 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My mum's side mostly comes from the anglo-scottish borders and also County Durham < 1365781340 719469 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my first name is irish / gaelic / celtic / whatever, but my parents mostly just picked it because it sounds cool < 1365781349 746103 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they both had super common names growing up < 1365781357 368468 :yiyus!1242712427@je.je.je QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1365781379 808848 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My first name's Hebrew, as is my brother's, as is my mum's, but as far as I know I have no connections to Israel < 1365781412 250822 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or Judaism < 1365781461 930480 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1365781465 933257 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did you end up with these names? < 1365781494 834468 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My mum's name is an old family name, she was named after her aunt < 1365781505 318986 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My name was chosen because my parents didn't know any Nathans < 1365781518 471373 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then they started seeing Nathans all over the place < 1365781532 848767 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And my brother's name they thought suited him perfectly < 1365781616 637252 :yiyus!1242712427@je.je.je JOIN :#esoteric < 1365781712 105746 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :My name is Hebrew as well < 1365781715 246559 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe < 1365781734 312530 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, TIL that chloroplasts have their own DNA and are thought to be descended from bacteria that colonized other cells, similar to mitochondria < 1365781735 198376 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Many names in the States come from Hebrew < 1365781746 632855 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ThatOtherPerson, it's David, right? < 1365781749 419461 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1365781754 233873 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Definitely Hebrew < 1365781773 547152 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A lot of names in Europe come from Hebrew < 1365781775 736786 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, I don't think of that as a "Hebrew name", even though it obviously is < 1365781778 714288 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: yeah, I remember mitochondria and chloroplasts having many things in common < 1365781780 814334 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :just because it's common < 1365781789 498714 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and something that lots of christians pick as well as jews < 1365781800 67569 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sean I think is Hebrew < 1365781816 377525 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo it's not a hebrew name unless you spell it using hebrew letters, right shachaf < 1365781822 633743 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which probably has something to do with Christianity having come from the same roots as Judaism < 1365781846 752292 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: coincidentally, Sean is my middle name < 1365781859 912794 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My middle name's not Hebrew at all < 1365781867 384234 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is it? < 1365781878 857383 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"George" < 1365781884 384210 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Greek, via Latin < 1365781960 771614 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Arabic my name is داوود‎ < 1365782005 205247 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Daoud, transliterated < 1365782038 776013 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and my surname's Norse via Dutch < 1365782305 616111 :super14!~super13@host-212-18-30-50.customer.m-online.net QUIT :Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de < 1365783067 83282 :myndzi\!~myndzi@50-194-51-62-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365783198 153327 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1365783633 180579 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh that's actually supposed to be written as 5 discrete letters? < 1365783642 81766 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought my terminal was fucking it up, but seems that way < 1365783716 673505 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :two of them are ?s in diamonds for me < 1365783718 81326 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i blame mosh < 1365783721 811046 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : my first name is irish / gaelic / celtic / whatever, but my parents mostly just picked it because it sounds cool < 1365783724 625547 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you too huh < 1365783744 442565 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my parents actually went and asked some relative who knew irish what the stupidest possible spelling was < 1365783770 944926 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's your first name again < 1365783777 255192 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the one that isn't ahdahdnhmdahdnamnaín < 1365783783 334980 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mdhanhwrnwhervnhwercmn? < 1365783798 655817 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, that one < 1365783805 591061 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is it pronounced < 1365783822 3611 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's something common with some white noise tacked on the end < 1365783825 938100 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Adamfwheuigha eyghvbearyugeryuafbgvs < 1365783884 479287 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :llanfairpwllgwyngyll < 1365783905 98785 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :short for llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch < 1365783912 885175 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, that's welsh < 1365783923 797571 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its pronounced https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_y_rm2i1YtE&t=1m14s < 1365783969 984256 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, ... < 1365784115 951841 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1365784219 615663 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony JOIN :#esoteric < 1365784262 243312 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :was that the joke < 1365784532 243259 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am the joke. < 1365784535 613885 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-57-209.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365784542 971572 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am the eggman < 1365784556 726046 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am the robotnik < 1365784588 101089 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm the scatman < 1365784595 266856 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :goo goo g'joob < 1365784661 246669 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so apparently there is now a character named after me in one of them video computer games < 1365784670 260091 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the fuckers didn't even pronounce it right < 1365784709 867073 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :evil mastermind mc cool < 1365784724 792748 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-57-209.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pantsom hover < 1365784813 219365 :ThatOtherPersonY!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony JOIN :#esoteric < 1365784820 804552 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I am the walrus" would work relatively well as a screamo song < 1365784874 491028 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1365784885 514949 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365784897 153426 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sadly I do not have a screamo band. < 1365784905 580111 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I am no Oli Sykes < 1365784924 15254 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(who's actually metalcore...) < 1365784955 748788 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1365784970 322469 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: huh, they think these too apparently are in that category of "organelles that were originally bacteria" < 1365784973 465463 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peroxisome < 1365784976 785727 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glycosome < 1365785017 413 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :neat < 1365785167 258432 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :evolution during the precambrian era must have been all kinds of nutty. like, with all the bacteria just kind of doing anything and everything < 1365785194 900866 :carado!~carado@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:221:63ff:fe9a:3747 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365785224 920516 :carado!~carado@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:221:63ff:fe9a:3747 QUIT :Client Quit < 1365785229 904649 :carado_!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365785249 862650 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :evolution was so much better in the precambrian when organisms were willing to take risks and be inventive < 1365785260 788174 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now we just get the same old eukaryote crap churned out year after year < 1365785298 443659 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It also seems that on land, there are an awful, awful lot of insects < 1365785321 627699 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: it's all sex's fault < 1365785329 716250 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sexual reproduction made everything so ~boring~ < 1365785341 609049 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, it's all anything cares about these days < 1365785351 175427 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we should find every eukaryote on the planet and substitute a rock for their core < 1365785353 236272 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :to bring back the good times, we need to get rid of sex. < 1365785359 788735 :carado_!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1365785364 440317 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't everything sex's fault < 1365785375 854700 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(is Koen_ suggesting we brickbrain the planet) < 1365785377 943973 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365785389 134408 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right, a brick < 1365785397 669422 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1365785406 840434 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bricknucleusing, Taneb < 1365785407 107708 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_, learn Haskell < 1365785411 513624 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a very different procedure < 1365785432 59807 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, I shall defer to your expertise < 1365785437 168215 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, you wish < 1365785440 126842 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-57-209.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: not big on red queen, are you < 1365785449 700548 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically it's like IVF but with a brick < 1365785598 650079 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was being silly -_- < 1365785602 761775 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you have a point xD < 1365785637 701194 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1365785644 388787 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was reading today that sexual reproduction helped defeat parasites < 1365785861 704569 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1365785991 996592 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I heard differently but ok < 1365786010 871607 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1365786164 934822 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365786193 424975 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-213-111.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365786204 633982 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even prokaryotes have a mechanism analogous to sex, because it allows you to get rid of really sucky genes and get better ones < 1365786233 767704 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alas, I am genetically predisposed against asexual production < 1365786269 856213 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Racist. < 1365786272 527791 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-57-209.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1365786274 38978 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just have to learn to mitose < 1365786313 778011 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :y chromosomes are basically asexual because they never recombine < 1365786324 457556 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacterial_conjugation ah < 1365786332 102573 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that's how that works! < 1365786347 472624 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: Almost never. < 1365786347 666705 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is why there are all kinds of fun x-linking things like color blindness and male pattern baldness < 1365786358 156488 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: In some cases they end up recombining with the X chromosome. < 1365786371 248445 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't that generate a whole mess of disorders? < 1365786375 766820 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: You're right, there are almost no absolute in biology < 1365786378 328374 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This ends up doing fun things like putting sex-determining region Y on the X. Giving you an XX male. < 1365786383 176985 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: *Can*. < 1365786386 20934 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not necessarily. < 1365786392 788888 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, like that one < 1365786402 810387 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Y chromosome is basically a bunch of junk and a single gene that triggers being male. < 1365786406 150358 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or XY female where the sex determining part of Y goes on vacation < 1365786415 506028 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION nods
< 1365786433 14575 :ThatOtherPersonY!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vacation is nice. < 1365786448 750566 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sex chromosomes are really interesting, I was reading about all the kinds of disorders that go along with them the other day < 1365786466 644036 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :XXY, X, XXXY, XXYY < 1365786476 140991 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-213-111.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :band names < 1365786483 892549 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION has a neice with 'X' (Turner Syndrome)
< 1365786487 216505 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*niece < 1365786494 784188 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fruit flies they count how many x chromosome duplicates there are compared to the autosomal chromosome duplicates, if it's 1:1 then it's a girl if it's 1:2 then it's a boy < 1365786509 777068 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :o_O < 1365786517 338264 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can get super female fruit flies by adding more x chromosomes < 1365786518 718243 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-213-111.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, i thought the ones where you only got one sex chromosomes generally killed you < 1365786532 571717 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike_: single X is an exception, I think? < 1365786537 697585 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1365786541 294842 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike_: The Y chromosome is nearly useless. < 1365786542 591313 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the results vary, it can be pretty bad or not very bad < 1365786571 485384 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's literally a single gene. Meaning that it *might* not be a big deal. < 1365786575 962869 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(she's lucky, other than stunted growth (which is somewhat vixable with hormones) she's pretty much largely normal.) < 1365786583 975808 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-213-111.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, Turner doesn't cause cognitive impairment < 1365786599 247392 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Attention Deficit/Hyperactivity Disorder or ADHD (problems with concentration, memory, attention with hyperactivity seen mostly in childhood and adolescence) < 1365786599 439167 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nonverbal Learning Disability (problems with math, social skills and spatial relations)" -- WP < 1365786636 892375 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-213-111.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1365786661 825963 :ThatOtherPersonY!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi! < 1365786662 322616 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think they say with hormones she'll end up being around 4'11" or so < 1365786669 57054 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think you can get up to 5 X chromosomes < 1365786681 521095 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :... oh right! I think I also knew someone in college who had Turner mosaicism, which is even weirder < 1365786696 398233 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-213-111.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :part of your body only has one X, the rest is XX? < 1365786702 561308 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think so, yeah < 1365786706 829630 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1365786723 127087 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :she wasn't diagnosed because mosaicness is trickier, I think < 1365786733 196946 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, wasn't diagnosed early < 1365786745 334098 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :x inactivation is interesting < 1365786781 659441 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's how we get tortishell cats < 1365786898 487955 :ThatOtherPersonY!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :*tortoiseshell < 1365786926 186809 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squitten < 1365786975 807934 :ThatOtherPersonY!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1365787034 959084 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@91-145-118-87.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1365787086 965098 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so wait, are ginger cats called something else outside the uk < 1365787097 348818 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kung Pao < 1365787135 960150 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :racist < 1365787167 415838 :ThatOtherPersonY!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: not that I know of < 1365787303 269005 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sexual reproduction in fungi is even weirder < 1365787319 61840 :ThatOtherPersonY!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungi are alien < 1365787323 670771 :ThatOtherPersonY!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :are we back to that again? < 1365787375 466738 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck fungus < 1365787376 219379 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A fungus is a member of a large group of eukaryotic organisms that includes microorganisms such as yeasts and molds, as well as the more familiar mushrooms. < 1365787380 954439 :ThatOtherPersonY!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still have trauma from learning about plant reproduction in biology, though < 1365787395 902824 :ThatOtherPersonY!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's all so much more complicated than I imagined < 1365787450 759827 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I once hit a classmate over the head with a biology schoolbook. considering the excessive weight of these manuals, I think I hurt him. < 1365787488 728083 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i remember biology at school < 1365787494 740067 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :plant reproduction is really cool < 1365787547 966981 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they had to split the class in two because so many people took it in their last year < 1365787559 527081 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :meanwhile there were 6 who took physics < 1365787793 103779 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1365787805 897849 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1365787816 683761 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I took both, am I a heretic :< < 1365787845 50547 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-213-111.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you know in olden times hermaphroditic plants were called "perfect" < 1365787859 121691 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-213-111.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1365787888 682497 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, well I took both too, but I think I'm the only one who did. < 1365787890 664496 :ThatOtherPersonY!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: I took both too, and also I also took chemistry < 1365787900 285084 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Today the term is reserved for humans. < 1365787904 460751 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google biophysics < 1365787905 878796 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biophysics < 1365787906 73772 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: Biophysics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia < 1365787909 636166 :ThatOtherPersonY!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I'm certainly not the only one who took both at my school < 1365787911 5601 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I ended up dropping out when no universities gave it as a condition. < 1365787945 39336 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biophysical_chemistry < 1365787965 735853 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google relativistic quantum chemistry < 1365787967 400211 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relativistic_quantum_chemistry < 1365787967 594902 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: Relativistic quantum chemistry - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia < 1365787974 108959 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that one's my favorite of fields that are a mix of other fields, I think) < 1365787994 866107 :ThatOtherPersonY!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google biophysical chemistry < 1365787997 290017 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/journal/03014622 < 1365787997 931002 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just sounds so cool. < 1365788024 951211 :super14!~super13@host-93-104-245-177.customer.m-online.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365788073 128923 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365788196 698236 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the one where you end up predicting the breakdown of the periodic table isn't it < 1365788273 126595 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Medvedev was a pretty cool guy < 1365788305 906515 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Mendelev < 1365788309 313649 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*whatshisname < 1365788371 247971 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Preved Mendelev < 1365788382 106383 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he crossbred peas and didn't afraid of anything < 1365788408 387662 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: it's like, among other things the reason why gold is gold < 1365788425 787372 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(at higher atomic masses relativity starts affecting electron shells and thus chemistry) < 1365788433 28060 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, i learnt that during my metallurgy hipster phase < 1365788528 791918 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :MEANWHILE IN /R/BITCOIN: http://i.imgur.com/ADwE9im.jpg < 1365788543 607831 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :/r/bitcoin? < 1365788546 205279 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another reason gold is gold: reflexivity of equality < 1365788564 997823 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gold (noun) is gold (color) -_- XD < 1365788565 192173 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy, subreddit for bitcoin discussion, presumably < 1365788569 64825 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a libertarian's wet dream < 1365788578 41592 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: but why < 1365788582 438154 :ThatOtherPersonY!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :PRESUMABLY! THAT'S THE WORD I WAS THINKING ABOUT < 1365788588 797839 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For discussion bitcoins, of course < 1365788592 802297 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but why < 1365788597 757976 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :DISCUSSION BITCOINS < 1365788606 424479 :ThatOtherPersonY!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know why, but I couldn't remember the word for a while there < 1365788609 914875 :ThatOtherPersonY!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was very scared < 1365788628 877424 :ThatOtherPersonY!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: maybe they're bored and have nothing else to do < 1365788635 267017 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-213-111.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: wow, bitcoins got up to being worth 30°C < 1365788676 42226 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-213-111.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also is the point of that graph "stop worrying guys it's just as stable as local weather" < 1365788682 287507 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-213-111.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because i would not invest in the weather < 1365788710 395348 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's "well yeah bitcoin prices are following the exact same trend as the dot com bubble but this time it's different" < 1365788770 890655 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm glad I don't yet care about bitcoins < 1365788798 890518 :ThatOtherPersonY!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't care that I don't care about bitcoins, because I really don't care about them. < 1365788844 26732 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: c.c < 1365788858 961591 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know if my local absolute temperature decreased by 70% in one day, I would be pretty worried < 1365788888 58654 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(aren't temperatures a thing percentages don't make sense for?) < 1365788896 759800 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was also a post explaining why the bubble hasn't burst that literally opened with "bitcoin is different" < 1365788901 56075 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you couldn't make it up < 1365788918 399787 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: it makes sense if you use scale where 0 = absolute zero < 1365788928 182118 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-213-111.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hear soon they'll be worth $10k < 1365788942 201638 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@91-145-118-87.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1365788960 260732 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, yeah but temperature represents something absolutely mad mathematically < 1365788970 93734 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-213-111.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :unlike everything else in math < 1365788971 766705 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the derivative of entropy wrt thermal energy i think < 1365788980 992289 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems p. legit < 1365789006 621621 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-213-111.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also if your local temperature went down by 70% in one day i think you'd be more "dead" than "worried" < 1365789026 20106 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :worried first, then dead < 1365789027 53313 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought it was just based on the average kinetic energy of particles < 1365789038 658215 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a clever play on words here based on liquidity but i'm not sure what it is < 1365789040 352694 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wp says E = ½kT < 1365789047 233757 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that it isn't also that thing you said < 1365789094 154317 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-213-111.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's see, if the temperature here went down by 70% it would be... -189°C < 1365789102 243393 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-213-111.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"bet i could take it" < 1365789118 715522 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my cold tolerance isn't so good. < 1365789128 513220 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :all your assets would freeze < 1365789134 734523 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no that's shit < 1365789175 134744 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-213-111.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh huh, that low temp. at vostok base was lower than the freezing point of CO2 < 1365789183 352333 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-213-111.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :er the sublimation point < 1365789207 855938 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-213-111.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :breathing must be difficult < 1365789219 98891 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"all your assets would freeze" < 1365789222 777562 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION begins gigglefit
< 1365789241 158040 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes i seem to have introduced another pun accidentally < 1365789278 672542 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-213-111.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"(Warning: 27 Mar 2013 - sublimation video contains java exploit malware, do not run the programme)" thanks wikipedia < 1365789285 874466 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, if you can't handle the heat get out of the kitchen < 1365789300 389525 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-213-111.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was worse. < 1365789300 700670 :super15!~super13@host-93-104-245-177.customer.m-online.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365789307 703182 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I thaw-t it was pretty funny) < 1365789317 650303 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-213-111.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no shut up < 1365789324 514811 :GOMADWarrior!~Regis@189.34.44.144 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1365789333 1731 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::☺) < 1365789336 641975 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION gently flogs Taneb with a slightly congealed cuttlefish
< 1365789367 422562 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: your puns are truly sublime. < 1365789368 911240 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wasn't expecting such an icy reception < 1365789369 105728 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kinky < 1365789375 905818 :super14!~super13@host-93-104-245-177.customer.m-online.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1365789385 859320 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-213-111.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy christ, there were people /at/ the station < 1365789405 331804 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo this needs to be phase diagram in the bud < 1365789405 526249 :ThatOtherPersonY!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quick someone give me a github repo url! < 1365789407 598341 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did they like it < 1365789419 356136 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-213-111.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"An average windspeed of 5 m/s" what the fuck is wrong with antarctica < 1365789421 343182 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ThatOtherPersonY, github.com/ekmett/lens < 1365789437 33195 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ThatOtherPersonY: pfcuttle/SFL-Heritage < 1365789437 429991 :ThatOtherPersonY!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://starlogs.net/#ekmett/lens < 1365789443 626882 :ThatOtherPersonY!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ click < 1365789475 141633 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this some sort of male-ware ive been hearing about < 1365789482 39773 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :malewear < 1365789491 186074 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-213-111.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :add failing and ifailing < 1365789510 409441 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION just glomps taneb because puns
< 1365789515 207320 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-213-111.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7c/Wostok-Station_core32.jpg "yeah sure this is a place humans can live in" < 1365789515 859136 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg if i highlight text it does it in proper perspective < 1365789523 978930 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A MARVEL FOR OUR TIMES < 1365789592 140370 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yes < 1365789639 422170 :ThatOtherPersonY!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: But we already have a Marvel! It's part of a company called Disney, which, incidentally, is the parent company of Lucasfilm, the company which made Star Wars, upon which that scrolling log thingy is based. < 1365789644 515051 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, you're making my heart melt < 1365789675 939956 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds fatal < 1365789779 481944 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :aw ;w; < 1365789809 758872 :ThatOtherPersonY!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quick! We must get the Ice Queen to freeze Taneb's heart! < 1365789823 91260 :ThatOtherPersonY!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :and maybe make some ice cream too, that would be nice. < 1365789831 724211 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ice cream! < 1365789834 587214 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :can it be chocolate < 1365789838 688720 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's been like 3 minutes he's probably dead by now < 1365789842 937672 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ThatOtherPersonY, the shop in Hexham that sells nice ice cream closed down < 1365789852 516395 :ThatOtherPersonY!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, it would be wonderful if it was chocolate < 1365789876 874392 :ThatOtherPersonY!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: aw, that's terrible. But it should be enough to freeze your heart! < 1365789882 913440 :ThatOtherPersonY!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay! It all works out! < 1365789896 22430 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.112 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365789931 447358 :ThatOtherPersonY!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I'm not sure if there's a shop that sells ice cream within sixty miles of me < 1365789952 717179 :ThatOtherPersonY!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I guess there is a shop that sells ice cream, but not an ice cream shop. < 1365789953 150013 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ThatOtherPersonY, that's your own fault for living in a desert country as opposed to a dessert country < 1365789962 850415 :ThatOtherPersonY!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :ikr < 1365789995 57198 :ThatOtherPersonY!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :A dessert country would be wonderful, with ice cream mountains and chocolate waterfalls < 1365790016 324341 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The nearest shop that specializes in ice cream is probably about 12 miles away < 1365790037 737349 :super15!~super13@host-93-104-245-177.customer.m-online.net PART :#esoteric < 1365790260 340076 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow what kind of icecreamless wasteland is this < 1365790296 303388 :ThatOtherPersonY!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: the one I am in is Saudi Arabia < 1365790313 404030 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds bad < 1365790321 518857 :ThatOtherPersonY!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not really that bad < 1365790336 605472 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yet you say there is no ice cream < 1365790365 652387 :ThatOtherPersonY!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can get ice cream at the store 5 minutes away, but there isn't a shop that specializes in ice cream for a ways < 1365790409 927491 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION nervously checks on google maps...
< 1365790442 669971 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything is fine. there's a gelateria within half a kilometre. < 1365790443 539619 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're in canada though < 1365790445 846662 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :do canadians also use "octets" instead of bytes? < 1365790457 959186 :nortti_!nortti@nano.smar.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1365790458 558461 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: in French, yes. < 1365790491 183656 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are some disputes over the proper pronunciation of giga- (with a soft or a hard g), but otherwise everything's pretty consistent. < 1365790509 515574 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar CYUL < 1365790510 471251 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 121813Z 06018KT 3/4SM R06L/3000V5000FT/D R06R/3500V6000FT/D -SN VV006 M00/M01 A2991 RMK SN8 SLP131 < 1365790518 457728 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah! it stopped -PLSNing. < 1365790524 546260 :ThatOtherPersonY!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1365790530 911154 :ThatOtherPersonY!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony NICK :ThatOtherPerson < 1365790599 765329 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ThatOtherPerson: y? < 1365790637 87498 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :PLSN = snowing with ice pellets? < 1365790650 830791 :nortti_!nortti@nano.smar.fi NICK :nortti < 1365790665 331492 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I am a shapeshifter! Seismologicate in this knowledge! < 1365790699 205958 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote seismologicate < 1365790701 323260 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1365790750 864504 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=rXyv0cgW < 1365790789 884808 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-213-111.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :enlightening < 1365790808 659501 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1365791107 904636 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :I shall now tell you the full story of my nick. < 1365791165 705392 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was staring at my screen, unsure about what I should use as an IRC nick. I was tired. I typed ThatOtherPersonYouDon'tKnow. IRC shortened it to ThatOtherPersonY. < 1365791184 690221 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION sits down in a circle
< 1365791191 18970 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eventually I decided that the Y just looked silly, and removed it. It is now my alt nick. < 1365791241 181553 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is all. That's the story. That is it. < 1365791261 274451 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Taneb" is a portmanteau of the reverses of the first three letters of my name and my brother's name, originally used on a shared account < 1365791275 247288 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION spreads holy salt around Taneb
< 1365791293 526747 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti comes from my old nick which my irc client mangled < 1365791293 849273 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did you get holes in your salt? < 1365791299 745223 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you mix holy salt and holy water, do you get holy brine? < 1365791335 906417 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION adds hers? Fiora is a pegasus knight in Fire Emblem 7. Florina, her sister, is more of a 'me' character, but I preferred Fiora as a username.
< 1365791349 170379 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: your brother is named Benjamin? < 1365791354 658560 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :He is < 1365791356 930846 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my nick is my family name. < 1365791391 249483 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My first alternate nick, "Ngevd", is my initials < 1365791401 886471 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-213-111.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm a bike. < 1365791413 94059 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: next time I'm DMing, I'll have to add that holy brine (with your consent, of course. Is your brine CC licensed?) < 1365791415 477956 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plus an e, which was almost in my name but my name was getting pretty long already < 1365791422 425576 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: You have a lot of names, which is unsurprising, since you have many nicks. < 1365791423 78077 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, brine is public domain < 1365791432 155280 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nathan George van Doorn < 1365791441 992194 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The e stands for Eliot < 1365791445 549593 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :One l, one t < 1365791461 460205 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My third alternate nick, "atriq", is rot13 of ngevd < 1365791475 991828 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My fourth alternate nick, which I've never used on IRC, is "askit0" < 1365791503 6427 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Ninety-Nine Nicks of Nathan George van Doorn < 1365791516 834101 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would make a good story < 1365791519 485619 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1365791523 71952 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1365791526 251330 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My FIFTH nick, I've only used once < 1365791531 614523 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Flatfish" < 1365791542 404599 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that makes twice. < 1365791545 862466 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :My nick doesn't have an interesting story < 1365791564 11181 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though my alt-nick is my main nick with its letters sorted alphabetically < 1365791572 539271 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, this reddit seems to consistently write spoiler links the wrong way around so that nothing ends up hidden < 1365791572 865557 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> sort "firefly" < 1365791574 395921 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "effilry" < 1365791578 723364 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`seen effilry < 1365791586 416789 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2013-03-25 08:48:01: Is there a difference between >< and .. ? < 1365791622 259480 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and the instructions as they show for me: "Use: [Hidden inside brackets](/hide) Result: Hidden inside brackets") < 1365791623 956305 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :> sort "thatotherperson" < 1365791626 170881 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "aeehhnooprrsttt" < 1365791638 76479 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be an awful nick < 1365791658 746326 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> sort "monqy" < 1365791660 976332 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "mnoqy" < 1365791667 797628 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :How intriguing < 1365791852 886079 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: which game in the series is FE7? < 1365791993 76369 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would assume that it was the seventh, but I really wouldn't know. < 1365792034 674555 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a feeling Fire Emblem was weird with the imports < 1365792100 151299 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I meant what subtitle did it have < 1365792136 598561 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, huh < 1365792158 822507 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my nick is some words i thought were funny when i was like 12 < 1365792174 675251 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo they have stood the test of time < 1365792226 838761 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> sort "Phantom_Hoover" < 1365792228 971825 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "HP_aehmnooortv" < 1365792232 926289 :mekeor!~user@dslb-094-216-009-246.pools.arcor-ip.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365792246 639351 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds dutch < 1365792278 740746 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: it was the first one released in the US, I think? < 1365792281 628234 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rekka no Ken < 1365792286 137903 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think so, yeah < 1365792295 818959 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one with Lyn and Eliwood < 1365792312 83137 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i kind of thought Fiora was Fiona with a bit rubbed out < 1365792423 527382 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh fuck the cat brought another mouse into the front room < 1365792432 668400 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ummm n is 6E, r is 72 < 1365792437 38730 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh. IRC won't let me /nick boıly. < 1365792438 742764 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a pretty large Hamming distance isn't it? < 1365792441 151218 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT IS A BETTER THING I DO THAN I HAVE EVER DONE < 1365792465 249114 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, Friendship Mouse III? < 1365792468 765453 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-213-111.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: like, physically scratching out part of the n grapheme < 1365792488 5969 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was a frienship mouse ii??? < 1365792500 476855 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. XD < 1365792503 847210 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy, yes, it was I < 1365792507 751836 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, I misinterpreted bit -_- < 1365792512 629986 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-213-111.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1365792528 111722 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunately since I picked this nickname there are now, like. two higher profile characters who stolesit < 1365792542 457069 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: Now I am really beginning to suspect that you are a bot. < 1365792558 729461 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can always change your name < 1365792561 58845 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do it all the time < 1365792576 934456 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why ._. < 1365792581 242953 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :A suspected bot that suspects someone else is a bot... suspicious... < 1365792754 535874 :GOMADWarrior!~Regis@189.34.44.144 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365792767 505433 :GOMADWarrior!~Regis@189.34.44.144 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1365792930 819483 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm off now < 1365792931 787179 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bye! < 1365792935 509613 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1365792982 978982 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn QUIT :Excess Flood < 1365793126 235444 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh god this is going to be another friendship mouse < 1365793128 542930 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can feel it < 1365793254 466648 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay! < 1365793289 430427 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're going to need some rainbows, and some sparkles, and certainly some Magic Markers. < 1365793349 423792 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn JOIN :#esoteric < 1365793388 24624 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: for some reason I'm reminded of stargirl < 1365793418 177012 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn QUIT :Excess Flood < 1365793447 309491 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-213-111.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hM? < 1365793467 586968 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote friendship < 1365793469 471680 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :496) I keep asking random people for "friendship " and it's crippling < 1365793559 376498 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn JOIN :#esoteric < 1365793586 190469 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: "I am not a bot, I am a human girl" < 1365793633 603398 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: those two statements contradict each other hth < 1365793687 61956 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-255-116.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365793830 399758 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not a bot, I am a free man! < 1365793833 452998 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-213-111.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1365793837 919907 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1365793858 708158 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you never heard of The Prisoner < 1365793870 669184 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have! < 1365793884 914213 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant to shachaf < 1365793902 834507 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :should've been clearer! < 1365793929 736994 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry < 1365793971 27849 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-255-116.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1365794059 530183 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the joke is that humans are bots < 1365794067 866222 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :except it's no joke!! < 1365794148 872865 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::mind blown: < 1365794181 928054 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :am not < 1365794187 825963 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Turk human bot?! < 1365794258 760533 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, elaborate puppet < 1365794326 934619 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :daft punk? < 1365794714 930188 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora cannot be a bot, since bots never lie, and she said that she was not a bot. < 1365795264 763497 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1365795436 844268 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-255-116.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365795581 419970 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1365795897 472794 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION looks herself over for a moment
< 1365795904 985516 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well if I'm a bot I guess I'm a pretty realistic one? < 1365795917 191159 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :to be fair I guess being a gynoid would be pretty cool. < 1365795924 697157 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-255-116.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gits fangirl < 1365795931 638093 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry -_- < 1365795932 252089 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would kind of depend on the level of AI though < 1365795949 565438 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-255-116.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fiora's AI is pretty good, she can flatten me in scrabble and pitched combat < 1365795969 910533 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pitched combat? < 1365795989 129332 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION doubts that one
< 1365796057 127596 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does an unrealistic bot look like? < 1365796098 22140 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uncanny. < 1365796207 708985 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's cool that big battle scenes in movies are done by programming AIs to swordfight < 1365796232 770717 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know a little fencing at least but I'm pretty sure nitya could crush me in said pitched battle < 1365796268 99083 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Especially if he brings a gun. < 1365796368 82313 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm. bike -_- < 1365796377 509518 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry for switching your screen names around < 1365796417 15560 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-255-116.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you fiend < 1365796461 552181 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no nitya=Bike?? < 1365796653 843635 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :though it might be a contest in who is the most out of shape < 1365796751 226201 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-255-116.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, i work out! sometimes. a little. < 1365796943 946566 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :more than me! < 1365797164 153730 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not actually sure how applicable fencing skills are to killing someone with a sword < 1365797229 542520 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you know how to fence it will probably be easier to kill someone with a sword than if you only know how to box. < 1365797482 31935 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a rule in (some kinds of) fencing which is meant to model the fact that, in a real sword fight, people will try to avoid outcomes where you both end up stabbed < 1365797525 378947 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, those are the crap kinds < 1365797555 396700 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.178.34 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365797560 978511 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :priority is for little girls < 1365797609 323985 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :c.c < 1365797660 222562 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :"2.32s" "Your website is faster than 65% of all tested websites" < 1365797665 783537 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think epee is the one that has the fewest restrictions? < 1365797675 516975 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did foil though, it was just a PE elective requirement thing < 1365797693 501874 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck épée < 1365797694 62213 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1365797699 261056 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck epee < 1365797699 839484 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A fencing sword with a bowl-shaped guard and a long, narrow, fluted blade that has no cutting edge and tapers to a blunted point. < 1365797731 922106 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION whips duck duck go with a +1 metasepia of Unicode
< 1365797737 212141 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also bike is like a foot taller so he'd probably win < 1365797738 48053 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, epee is the one i do < 1365797747 275065 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i probably am a bit too stubborn about it < 1365797827 799678 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was fun and interesting though, in between bouts of huffing at my asthma inhaler XD < 1365797895 81030 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ttants: epee, epi pen < 1365797926 801184 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: i did foil too < 1365797931 327440 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in college freshman PE < 1365797943 27623 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like we basically did the same kind of thing < 1365797971 672727 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"While still in use with many classical fencers, most competitive sport fencers, including Italians have abandoned the Italian grip in favour of the anatomical grip." < 1365797977 854734 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"you know, the one that actually fits a human hand" < 1365798039 768775 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1365798042 799406 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you had PE in college < 1365798047 664107 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :was this like a mandatory thing < 1365798077 408987 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-255-116.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sabatons_evolution_by_Wendelin_Boeheim.jpg nah man the renaissance was wear it was /at/ < 1365798080 289509 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-255-116.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(these are shoes) < 1365798089 997286 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1365798096 679679 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: yeah we had to take 3 PE classes < 1365798097 841304 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1365798112 634624 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it could be worse, MIT has a swim test < 1365798115 483882 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, why do i find this so funny < 1365798118 143746 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't graduate MIT unless you can swim 100 yards < 1365798124 738916 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: because we were a bunch of nerds < 1365798135 555857 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's actually a documentary about how bad the Caltech basketball team is < 1365798139 556966 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it's not even that < 1365798161 290099 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-255-116.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there an MIT tradition to throw you into the Charles or something < 1365798168 643130 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just, like, i associate mandatory sport with primary school < 1365798172 494138 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-255-116.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(probably not, since you'd die) < 1365798175 749057 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :our fencing team was really good though, because we had one guy who was a math postdoc and also happened to be formerly of the romanian olympic fencing team, or something < 1365798178 671216 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yuck < 1365798191 634075 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah there's a weird number of mathematicians in fencing < 1365798202 72693 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the warwick fencing club is like half maths students < 1365798208 186404 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, we had to do 3 PE classes too < 1365798223 428185 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my lungs were not happy -_- < 1365798240 114530 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is curious where Fiora went to school, but maybe it's too personal? doesn't matter
< 1365798253 393514 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :people say the MIT swim test is supposed to make sure you can swim to shore if you fall in the river < 1365798256 398596 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's not enough < 1365798270 436595 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :at the widest point it's more like 2000 ft across < 1365798278 541309 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I.E. 611 METERS < 1365798296 539245 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-255-116.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are a few colleges with mandatory PE here but i've managed to avoid them < 1365798302 192404 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not so much a "river" as a tidally locked basin thingy < 1365798307 531760 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-255-116.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :once i get back i'll maybe do rowing voluntarily though < 1365798324 380689 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's amusing to watch them practice rowing < 1365798330 900453 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because there are four guys in a boat working their asses off < 1365798338 114670 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the coach is cruising alongside yelling at them with a megaphone < 1365798338 750580 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-255-116.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then the coxswain yeah < 1365798365 484017 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :where even is Bike < 1365798368 917758 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-255-116.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did it in high school, it wasn't quite that hardcore but it was fun even if i was the wussiest guy there < 1365798377 834203 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-255-116.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Luxembour < 1365798400 737409 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :where actually < 1365798413 878951 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i utterly hated pe, relatedly: my school was a Rugby School < 1365798484 843314 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-255-116.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does where i am have to do with this though? rowing's a pretty common collegiate sport < 1365798519 2290 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well because phrases like 'once i get back' are confusing without context < 1365798528 894703 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-255-116.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :once i get back to school < 1365799092 308951 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :PE was the worst in elementary school, I think < 1365799105 248308 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least in college I could pick the class, but... < 1365799350 50621 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.112 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1365799430 944379 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1365799583 709387 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are PE teachers in the states as bad as they are here < 1365799593 184176 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1365799607 373225 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember in elementary school a big component of the "curriculum" was these national physical fitness test things < 1365799612 760930 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh < 1365799615 672765 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1365799624 908147 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the only one I did well on was the v-sit/reach < 1365799650 590282 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i failed horribly at all of them < 1365799654 796423 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm marginally more in shape now < 1365799672 652407 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gotta get in better shape < 1365799678 512183 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure if pullups or the mile was the worst < 1365799684 12423 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pullups for being more impossible than reversing entropy < 1365799695 653293 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the mile for making me smuggle in my asthma inhaler < 1365799880 900941 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so uh wait they didn't let you take an inhaler < 1365799924 598420 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think they let people have it with them, like, you'd have to go to the nurse < 1365799957 216512 :mekeor!~user@dslb-094-216-009-246.pools.arcor-ip.net QUIT :Quit: bye bye :) < 1365799980 664292 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :O.o < 1365800020 416 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they didn't want to trust 10 year olds with drugs I don't know @_@ < 1365800032 101056 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :DRUGZ < 1365800112 297459 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: D.A.R.E. to say "NO!" to drugs and alcohol! < 1365800182 171686 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...what does D.A.R.E. stand for < 1365800189 39333 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Drug Abuse Resistance Education i think < 1365800197 523219 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it has something to do with ninja < 1365800206 733415 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's propaganda in US schools about how if you ever smoke a joint you'll end up dead and in jail and addicted to crack < 1365800236 5485 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and generally normalizing the idea of a militarized police force which is at war with the citizens of the country < 1365800239 78121 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :perpetually < 1365800328 375142 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1365800338 97939 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that why you need assault rifles to defend your freedom < 1365800343 644343 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1365800369 297779 :yours_truly!~yours@mc-193-144.IPReg.mcmaster.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1365800396 400341 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: that reminds me of this http://25.media.tumblr.com/6c98d68b7bb93d733317ee636aa03d7e/tumblr_ml3q2eJTdu1qijn6po1_1280.jpg < 1365800428 295385 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-255-116.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :grimm's is banned somewhere? < 1365800510 532916 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: ;_; < 1365800571 566504 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1365800587 389563 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: http://bash.org/?409 < 1365800622 148624 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :an old one but a good one < 1365800659 669882 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-255-116.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://25.media.tumblr.com/a84de1d56c5d159132410ae282879ac8/tumblr_ml5safBANV1qzeo2zo1_1280.gif related? < 1365800668 773918 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1365800675 868214 :yours_truly!~yours@mc-193-144.IPReg.mcmaster.ca NICK :Nisstyre-laptop < 1365800684 772715 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@mc-193-144.IPReg.mcmaster.ca QUIT :Changing host < 1365800684 967270 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1365800687 122876 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.somethingawful.com/d/photoshop-phriday/bin-ladens-mountain.php < 1365800714 907335 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1365800725 139332 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-255-116.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.somethingawful.com/inserts/articlepics/photoshop/binladenfortress/clockworkjoe-dungeon.jpg nailed it < 1365800856 191366 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that original diagram actually accurate < 1365800867 876315 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.somethingawful.com/inserts/articlepics/photoshop/binladenfortress/deliverator-crystal.jpg < 1365800878 237268 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-255-116.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: not even remotely < 1365800886 480041 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it turned out he didn't have so much of a "mountain fortress" as a "house in suburbia with a huge stash of porn" < 1365800899 68632 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-255-116.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, this is about tora bora < 1365800904 346424 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever < 1365800907 786088 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-255-116.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which was a bunch of mostly natural caves with a bit of wood < 1365800916 126130 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-255-116.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well a lot of wood, given the porn, i guess < 1365800921 177017 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :dohohoho < 1365801330 879094 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365801369 738471 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1365801375 641515 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365801781 140262 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1365802151 673204 :bengt_!weed@ya.lolk.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1365802717 180352 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: Poulet! < 1365802728 855455 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1365802858 444435 :bengt_!weed@ya.lolk.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1365803811 467751 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :This Z-machine assembler works now. (Currently it is called "Frolg" after a Zork spell.) http://sprunge.us/PXBb http://sprunge.us/hQjg Please tell me any question/comment/complaints/suggestions. < 1365804223 175684 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool! < 1365804895 583399 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1365805006 196756 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db4145b.pool.mediaWays.net QUIT :Quit: hagb4rd < 1365805408 864435 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zork has spells? < 1365805416 649945 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, Zork II, with the wand? < 1365805442 389202 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know which ones, but I mean the Zork series of games and some unofficial games based on the Zork spells. < 1365805584 108644 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, from ZGI! < 1365805589 131916 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zgi++ < 1365805618 100502 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's (spoilers) glorf spelled backwards. < 1365805632 751792 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-218-166.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365805679 433625 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know that; the spells which are reverse are given the name spelled backwards. < 1365805706 203208 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you play ZGI? < 1365805710 67829 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1365805719 254160 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should! It's great. < 1365805729 86399 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1365805732 5874 :WeThePeople!~WeThePeop@unaffiliated/wethepeople JOIN :#esoteric < 1365805733 156584 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe some day. Not now. < 1365805782 33750 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why not now? < 1365805813 828847 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-255-116.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1365805825 66770 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I don't have it now! < 1365805850 559144 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-179-240.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365805868 990472 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can get it at http://www.gog.com/gamecard/zork_grand_inquisitor < 1365805905 779813 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another day. < 1365805958 999308 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's so good, man. < 1365805967 798928 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :more excuses? < 1365806312 822410 :WeThePeople!~WeThePeop@unaffiliated/wethepeople QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1365806493 802189 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: http://data.cnbc.com/quotes/MTGOXUSD < 1365806539 985348 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah... < 1365806543 510042 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was on CNBC tv even < 1365806546 613381 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I HAVE MONEY < 1365806546 806647 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :strange times < 1365806549 25858 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ot < 1365806550 155905 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's < 1365806552 45007 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :MY MONEY. TO SPEND. < 1365806552 890695 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kind of surreal < 1365806805 424466 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :BUY BTC < 1365806830 112302 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's only a matter of time before it hits $10k! < 1365806871 173372 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did buy btc! I just bought them back at 1/3 of the price I sold them <.< >.> < 1365806910 556389 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1365806913 468751 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :buy high, sell low < 1365806921 949715 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc knows all about buying while high < 1365807005 237067 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey JOIN :#esoteric < 1365807070 892298 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lololol < 1365807084 937943 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: did you short?? < 1365807099 650654 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think one can easily short bitcoins...? < 1365807119 942108 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shorting is really dangerous, though, I'm not that crazy < 1365807135 576527 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would also damage your computer < 1365807138 232753 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin used to lend BTC, didn't he? < 1365807142 83137 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :without a proper options framework it's basically infinite loss potential, and you're betting on a market that can be incredibly irrational < 1365807176 595777 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1365807187 975267 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only kind of short I'd ever even think about is either an options spread or a sell-put < 1365807190 944658 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you can always just disappear and not pay back your debt anyway < 1365807194 334144 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: wait is this part of that "distinguish drugs from complexity classes" quiz? < 1365807200 823386 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sell-put is nice because it's basically equivalent to owning the stock < 1365807210 955220 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait no that's not a short bet -_- < 1365807212 969047 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :buying the put is, agh. < 1365807213 961117 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: you can short safely without derivatives if you have a system of brokers and margin calls and such < 1365807229 677228 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, but like, that means if the price goes up too much you lose everything < 1365807232 837356 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you have to do a stop loss thing < 1365807233 146967 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: no it's just part of the "kmc is such a stoner" thing. not that he actually is (or is he?? we may never know) < 1365807246 262340 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i meant the BTC part < 1365807252 743065 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i'm usually not < 1365807254 106227 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then i realized that was bitcoins < 1365807257 448467 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and "I bet that bitcoins will not rise past X" sounds about as risky as like. trying to dash across a highway < 1365807262 478246 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what even is shorting < 1365807271 588162 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :during rush hour < 1365807277 756859 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: it's when you touch both ends of a wire. < 1365807279 590126 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i still think jokes about weed are hilarious, so maybe that makes me a stoner even if i don't smoke up hardly ever? < 1365807281 871936 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Borrowing a thing, selling it, and buying it back later to return it (when it's hopefully cheaper). < 1365807359 336077 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: does that mean you can be a stoner without ever stoning (or however that works) < 1365807375 730276 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-218-166.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1365807392 775271 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-218-166.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the true weed is not the weed that can be spoken of < 1365807425 260754 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: possibly?!?!? < 1365807517 468898 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b7dc5.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365807522 545654 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The other day my friend tried to get me to "smoke a fat bowl" with her. It was funny. < 1365807729 581964 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :was it the good stuff? < 1365807769 525692 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't ask. < 1365807806 33155 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :think of all the esoteric languages you could have designed < 1365808007 899695 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm afraid esoteric languages on drugs all resemble bf derivatives < 1365808056 41169 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :except Esme. < 1365808227 629941 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Category:Shameful < 1365808328 372422 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote "May you live in INVISIBLE TIMES." --Old Chinese proverb. (It can look confusing when written with the proper Unicode.) < 1365808336 894988 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :1023) "May you live in INVISIBLE TIMES." --Old Chinese proverb. (It can look confusing when written with the proper Unicode.) < 1365808473 839861 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 1022 < 1365808475 914650 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :1022) Do you have a girlfriend, fungot? ThatOtherPerson: there's two. < 1365808494 98120 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: hi fungot < 1365808494 555258 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yeah so its not sqrt, it's a fnord that would work too, but...) anyway, what is < 1365808498 59587 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1365808498 254014 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc* iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1365808505 573830 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell taneb * oerjan swats Taneb for incorrect quote spacing -----### < 1365808506 197189 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1365808517 969349 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: do you love monoids < 1365808518 163402 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i pasted it there during summer :) < 1365808522 57587 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1365808534 93169 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i '1022s/ / /' quotes < 1365808538 525983 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1365808539 722457 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 1022 < 1365808542 648200 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :1022) Do you have a girlfriend, fungot? ThatOtherPerson: there's two. < 1365808671 533835 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :DRATSAY WILLFULLY AVOID SENDING SPIRIT THROUGH TIME < 1365808676 359940 :mohammadaljrrah_!~user@5.11.16.10 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365808676 554775 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: good spell huh < 1365808697 656851 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome mohammadaljrrah_ < 1365808700 40512 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :mohammadaljrrah_: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1365808703 273033 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365808710 428329 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome mnoqy < 1365808713 828528 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​1309mnoqy: W05el13come to06 th02e inter13na04tional hub 05for esoteric progr04amming langua02g14e 11design05 13and d09eplo02yment! For mo07re informati07on, 08check out 10our wiki: http://e03sola10ngs.org/wik08i/M06ain_P03age. (For the other kin04d of 12eso05terica,03 try #e08soter02ic on irc.dal.net.) < 1365808723 475118 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: are you monqy's evil twin < 1365808729 591462 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-218-166.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> sort "mohammadaljrrah_" < 1365808731 329070 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "_aaaadhhjlmmmorr" < 1365808740 474417 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: close enough < 1365808748 851165 :mohammadaljrrah_!~user@5.11.16.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1365808757 477880 :mohammadaljrrah_!~user@5.11.16.10 PART :#esoteric < 1365808758 13594 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1365808758 855129 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: is monqy the evil twin < 1365808781 39490 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy is beyond good and evil < 1365808810 941904 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh monqy was written by nietzsche? < 1365808818 926281 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, the reverse < 1365808849 616351 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yqnom was written by ehcsztein? < 1365808852 694406 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-218-166.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mohammad is dead and we have killed them < 1365808887 796346 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i knew you were going to say that. < 1365808907 858993 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: how long did you know < 1365808920 524012 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you figure it out last year? way back when i first joined the channel? < 1365808925 641698 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yesterday? a few seconds before i said it? < 1365808940 472353 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it was just a few seconds then imo it's not so impressive < 1365808958 636502 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Echsztein, the famous jew who got his philosophy ripped off by the Sizan. < 1365809013 13790 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1365809031 231117 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i don't make impressions. < 1365809046 338150 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1365809068 342122 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-218-166.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait does this mean nietzsche was a wej < 1365809093 460661 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly. what is a wej < 1365809098 263451 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan is spreading the tired rumour that if you play Nietzsche backwards you hear Jewish messages. < 1365809101 349938 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's all in your head. < 1365809102 125988 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn wej < 1365809102 970395 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :No match for "wej". < 1365809120 920282 :myndzi\!~myndzi@50-194-51-62-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT : < 1365809122 631584 :btiffin!~btiffin@24.212.223.48 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365809125 825837 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote oerjan is spreading the tired rumour that if you play Nietzsche backwards you hear Jewish messages. < 1365809133 2211 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :1024) oerjan is spreading the tired rumour that if you play Nietzsche backwards you hear Jewish messages. < 1365809139 563956 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehcsztein < 1365809162 675036 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :quote 1024? < 1365809165 916999 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now we're getting somewhere. < 1365809179 367647 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finally an even number of quotes. < 1365809241 612518 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :how odd. < 1365809313 7829 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? qdbformat < 1365809314 947239 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :qdbformat is: message; * nick action; two spaces between messages; all elisions marked with [...] other than irrelevant intervening messages; for messages separated by elision, one space on each side, not two < 1365809328 622252 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Taneb Also, it's `? qdbformat < 1365809329 258797 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1365809347 981490 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? qdb < 1365809350 482359 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :qdb is used like: `quote; `quote regexp; `quote id; `addquote ...; `delquote id; `pastequotes regexp; `pastenquotes [n]; see also qdbformat < 1365809372 491037 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ln -s qdbformat wisdom/qdbfmt < 1365809376 215248 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1365809378 156018 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ln -s qdbformat wisdom/qdbrules < 1365809381 938910 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1365809403 297434 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ngevd! < 1365809405 692313 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ngevd!? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1365809410 566327 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Ngevd < 1365809413 46472 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​=���}j/��n��=2ע{-��IPD)��X?{��x�7��ܪ*�>���\ r�}�@�<S��o���v�,��3�iOY���~F�L�z�/ \ ��R�C$|���Jl<�˜�]1"A.�%{7ez���.��)`�[�������m������?Gt�Lo@�Ȗ�6���b`���4( \ e㙡0]P��LG�0�j��T�Ɇ�S�-n:.$9.��l��ӡ�HZ�,�T$��N�'.1�0����i�������ֻ|>ס�yr�w�6����oQ�heY��7�?�8���s��{�=Na�>��Tt����Ь.��<�&��mz9�&�/���$,�O�T���� < 1365809415 692588 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1365809417 638022 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :neither of those is what Taneb tried btw < 1365809425 305988 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What did Taneb try? < 1365809431 262645 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quoteformat < 1365809433 417890 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ngevd? < 1365809435 182683 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ngevd?? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1365809443 853369 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ln -s qdbformat wisdom/quoteformat < 1365809451 852378 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run `? ngevd? < 1365809452 974231 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: -c: line 0: unexpected EOF while looking for matching ``' \ bash: -c: line 1: syntax error: unexpected end of file < 1365809455 362813 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION sighs
< 1365809458 121615 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ln -s qdbformat wisdom/quoteformat < 1365809462 601576 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1365809473 309791 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ngevd < 1365809475 77085 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​�r��0�M:�v������=h���3W-HQΌs.�׾�3��z�I: �b��� ����� ���T[ђu�޺��Z� �+����m��mZ-6r��/�z����iT��D�Ű�庀H��$���@�9�� �9�5��Y�"�)&/�*��u�@�����7h�*��Xi�C < 1365809493 427021 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365809496 624025 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember how it went. < 1365809664 401594 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats elliott for not fixing Taneb's quote despite commenting on the error -----###
< 1365809866 865756 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1365810167 893900 :carado!~carado@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:221:63ff:fe9a:3747 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365810226 273967 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : hagb4rd: green on black is retro and hip. < 1365810242 166507 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION use genuine VT's back in the early 90's
< 1365810244 738999 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*used < 1365810560 679983 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: The struct held his beloved integer in his strong, protecting arms, his eyes like sapphire orbs staring into her own. "W-will you... Will you union me?" < 1365811048 520947 :Bike_!~Glossina@65-102-6-16.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365811077 732007 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-218-166.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1365811285 90025 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-192-154.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365811413 535570 :Bike_!~Glossina@65-102-6-16.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1365811432 24476 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b7dc5.pool.mediaWays.net QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1365811433 3167 :hagb4rd2!~perdito@koln-4db434e0.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365811630 520635 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-204-215.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365811827 949238 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-192-154.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1365811895 626433 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-204-215.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1365811929 897671 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-210-180.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365812283 806024 :carado!~carado@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:221:63ff:fe9a:3747 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1365813376 929353 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`frink 100 yards -> m < 1365813386 919287 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2286/25 (exactly 91.44) < 1365813547 478150 :Bike_!~Glossina@71-34-70-234.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365813610 296250 :Bike_!~Glossina@71-34-70-234.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Nitya < 1365813646 24329 :yours_truly!~yours@mc-115-116.IPReg.mcmaster.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1365813708 845391 :yours_truly!~yours@mc-115-116.IPReg.mcmaster.ca QUIT :Client Quit < 1365813743 897437 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-210-180.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1365813785 11170 :Nitya!~Glossina@71-34-70-234.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1365814156 842744 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1365815884 18603 :Bike_!~Glossina@207-224-19-97.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365815937 525641 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1365816026 524895 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-70-234.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1365816310 700977 :btiffin!~btiffin@24.212.223.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Cbrain#When_is_Easter.3F The computus in cbrain < 1365816373 470499 :Bike_!~Glossina@207-224-19-97.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It uses readline? < 1365816374 907895 :Bike_!~Glossina@207-224-19-97.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1365816462 240698 :btiffin!~btiffin@24.212.223.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep, but it can fall back to COBOL accept if the call to readline fails < 1365816550 907809 :Bike_!~Glossina@63-229-132-189.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365816554 928575 :btiffin!~btiffin@24.212.223.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Part of the cbrain game is that it's built for COBOL, and I wanted a relatively sane RE loop < 1365816626 107619 :Bike_!~Glossina@63-229-132-189.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for brainfuck? < 1365816700 653855 :btiffin!~btiffin@24.212.223.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-) Went overboard on the CB slang too Bike, put 1094 in a cell and request help and you get a frogSort. < 1365816708 44499 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-19-97.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1365816873 818538 :Bike_!~Glossina@63-229-132-189.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1365816987 501027 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-103.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365817105 440672 :btiffin!~btiffin@24.212.223.48 PART :#esoteric < 1365817251 623389 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hard terminals? Those are ones that aren't monoids? < 1365817257 556192 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are VT-100s monoids? < 1365817432 640303 :Bike_!~Glossina@65-102-6-195.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365817437 565481 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sequences of ECMA-48 commands should form a monoid, yes < 1365817451 874890 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or rather a whole bunch of them < 1365817463 270777 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperspace_(science_fiction)#Babylon_5 < 1365817466 312719 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikipedia... < 1365817472 809480 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http:// < 1365817475 683207 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover.......... < 1365817501 72779 :btiffin!~btiffin@24-212-223-48.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1365817512 645810 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ignore the #Babylon_5 < 1365817518 262051 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the marvel here is the article as a whole < 1365817524 748645 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :most obviously the free monoid on characters, but also various monoids with stronger equivalence relations that understand that e.g. two moves in a row can be coalesced < 1365817536 404888 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-103.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1365817553 867245 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a term for a monoid that's built from a free monoid + a normalization operator that you apply to words after concatenating them? < 1365817579 515312 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't you build any monoid that way? < 1365817588 971334 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably < 1365817602 86426 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monoid presentation? < 1365817621 940259 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there might not be a canonical normal form that is computable < 1365817650 617090 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the word problem isn't decidable < 1365817664 474923 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*its word problem < 1365817730 399409 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you don't care about computability, you can of course just choose the shortest representation in lexicographic order < 1365817772 574958 :Bike_!~Glossina@65-102-6-195.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1365817796 551865 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*first in < 1365817841 547678 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-221-81.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365817855 222955 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bikeunderscore < 1365817872 747235 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-221-81.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just not as catchy as the original. < 1365817875 408746 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-221-81.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bicyclidine < 1365817883 853950 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: are free groups "cooler than" free monoids < 1365817890 807155 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :this question goes for the rest of you < 1365817898 96469 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends on what you mean by cooler < 1365817904 543221 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was quoting you < 1365817922 111311 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it depends on what YOU MEAN BY "cooler"?? < 1365817929 239368 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :??????????????????????????????????? < 1365817933 484857 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :???????????????????????? < 1365817934 726000 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1365817939 406935 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :free monoids come up more in day to day life < 1365817949 782001 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :p. sure that makes them "less cool" < 1365817949 976417 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I ate surloin steak < 1365817952 65325 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and are easier to construct < 1365817975 51484 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :easier/less finicky < 1365817990 631220 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, hm < 1365818005 697382 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ~usual~ construction of free groups is pretty finicky but i hear there's a nice way to do it with topology < 1365818026 234781 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the nice way < 1365818031 907865 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pff i forget < 1365818034 582743 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :nb. i know almost nothing bout topology < 1365818069 135590 :Bicyclid1ne!~Glossina@67-5-221-81.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365818112 165418 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and of course ther'es the category-theoretical way where you use the whatever adjoint functor theorem to construct a left adjoint to the forgetful functor. i forget the process in there but Mac Lane ~claims~ it's nicer than the usual construction < 1365818134 300935 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: wait there's a process ????? < 1365818140 32501 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the whatever adjoint functor theorem < 1365818147 432130 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like i remember < 1365818159 551668 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@67-5-221-81.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1365818192 432022 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: WELL REMEMBER < 1365818278 488583 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The Freyd Adjoint Functor Theorem). Given a small-complete category A with small hom-sets, a functor G : A -> X has a left adjoint if and only if it preserves all small limits and satisfies the following Solution Set Condition: For each object x \in X there is a small set I and an I-indexed family of arrows f_i : x -> G a_i such that every arrow h : x -> G a can be written as a composite h = G t < 1365818284 487555 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\circ f_i for some index i and some t : a_i -> a < 1365818369 329853 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then it goes on to construct the free group from the forgetful functor U : Grp -> Set < 1365818395 515461 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1365818397 384199 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Set -> Grp < 1365818400 283368 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1365818402 610731 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Grp -> Set < 1365818406 549511 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow im bad today < 1365818429 532297 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my eyes darted between the forgetful functor and its adjoint < 1365818457 970773 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: are you forgetful because of adjoint < 1365818467 748764 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't know you were doing higher category theory < 1365818491 828507 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This left adjoint F : Set -> Grp assigns to each set X the free group F X generated by X, so our theorem has produced this free group without entering into the usual (rather fussy) explicit construction of the elements of F X as equivalence classes of words in letters of X." < 1365818547 650647 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im on the monads&algebras chapter right now it's between that chapter and adjoints and the chapter on monoids < 1365818551 544628 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1365818553 810675 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :chapter/section < 1365818557 82258 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know how in haskell you can say newtype FreeGroup a = FreeGroup { runFreeGroup :: Group g => (a -> g) -> g } < 1365818560 67220 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :except it's bad < 1365818570 526979 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i'm missing a forall < 1365818573 999007 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's a kind error??!? < 1365818593 506160 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll be right back and then i can figure out if i know that < 1365818624 41019 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway let me look at that theorem < 1365818858 531212 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1365819324 719276 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :For some reason Idris seems more understandable to me than Agda < 1365819343 634077 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i think i understand that definition of free groups in haskell < 1365819369 765307 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :( hi iim back) < 1365819374 466901 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1365819396 284869 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :What would it be in idris? < 1365819400 799016 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :( hi PARKER William) < 1365819412 563814 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :???? < 1365819426 223455 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that just a pseudonym < 1365819428 399700 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i not use it < 1365819437 174704 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah it's fine but < 1365819441 451739 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont get why you used it < 1365819455 761280 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ???? was also to FreeFull as well < 1365819462 238763 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :o h < 1365819503 234306 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about this: newtype Free k a = Free { runFree :: forall r. k a => (a -> r) -> r } < 1365819543 962197 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :by k a do you mean k r? < 1365819550 543536 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1365819551 447705 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1365819565 930499 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1365819576 434393 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's a group here? < 1365819580 649746 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-) < 1365819584 136112 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :GROUP HUG < 1365819586 174137 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hug monqy < 1365819586 836790 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://hackage.haskell.org/trac/ghc/newticket?type=bug < 1365819590 359211 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hug monqy < 1365819590 850136 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://hackage.haskell.org/trac/ghc/newticket?type=bug < 1365819597 137615 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes I have seen that kind of Free < 1365819612 417282 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: what about this: Free (Algebra f) < 1365819628 874455 :Bicyclid1ne!~Glossina@67-5-221-81.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a math thing called "group" other than the usual one because i swear i will punch everybody < 1365819643 598928 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bicyclid1ne: there's a whole group of things called "group" < 1365819643 831356 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bicyclid1ne: nah this is the same group < 1365819658 316430 :Bicyclid1ne!~Glossina@67-5-221-81.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know but freefull made me wonder < 1365819683 631652 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bicyclid1ne: Are you going to throw a magma at someone? < 1365819757 654307 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: and that definition of "Free" looks right..well...about as right you can reasonably get with haskell < 1365819793 137068 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: are you hinting "that type classes are bad" "and that independent types are bad for getting things right.." < 1365819803 774645 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly the latter maybe i don''t know.... < 1365819807 63595 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: don't you mean groupoid? * runs away < 1365819826 823915 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: so Free (Algebra f) gives you a free monad?? < 1365819841 41083 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(spot why this is relevant) < 1365819878 400924 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, although I don't like using Algebra as a class, but yes it can work < 1365819902 456884 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :CodensityAsk is similar but without class. < 1365819915 455819 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Both kinds can be meaningful though. < 1365819925 757361 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1365819930 955714 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Oh! < 1365819936 369202 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I understand what CodensityAsk is. < 1365819937 647925 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Groupoid takes two arguments and is a data constructor. g doesn't seem to take any arguments < 1365819952 311771 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :And Group seems to be a typeclass < 1365819995 781026 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38++ < 1365819998 858546 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: no i'm hinting at you're really working in 2 different categories and sometimes your morphisms are weird (group homomorphims??? it could happen).. i'm also hinting at there's the thing where for free objects you have a (natural)bijection of hom-sets not just an 1-way assignment < 1365820009 127912 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.178.34 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1365820011 855595 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: oh there's that too < 1365820023 15430 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: you didn't get the reference sorry < 1365820024 874761 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you get the (-> r) (-> r) pattern from the adjunction?? < 1365820045 845782 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: xoid is something x-like and that's all I get < 1365820049 551359 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you understand how free objects work right? < 1365820055 170236 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the point is that groupoid _is_ a math thing other than the usual groupoid) < 1365820074 257706 :Bicyclid1ne!~Glossina@67-5-221-81.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :agh < 1365820076 21992 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait what's a free object in terms of free functors < 1365820091 135296 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :So a monoid is something like a mon, so for example pikachu is a monoid < 1365820098 541004 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bicyclid1ne: it can mean either magma, or category with all morphisms invertible < 1365820109 684974 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: free object is any image of a free functor's object function < 1365820112 262901 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(groupoid) < 1365820117 404654 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote So a monoid is something like a mon, so for example pikachu is a monoid < 1365820121 180941 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :1025) So a monoid is something like a mon, so for example pikachu is a monoid < 1365820166 673695 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run quote | head -n4; quote | tail -n1 < 1365820168 899694 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :439) beautiful summer / fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck / fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck \ 870) it's kind of the multiocular O of countries, if you will < 1365820172 990001 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oopse < 1365820178 849517 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run quote '' < 1365820180 523144 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :470) combinatronics seems to be the mathematics chasing buddha's tail yeah.. he was a smart monkey that buddha < 1365820193 764547 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: ok < 1365820229 629153 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now to show how a pikachu is a monoid < 1365820231 530688 :Bicyclid1ne!~Glossina@67-5-221-81.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the heck itidus < 1365820248 482045 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quitidus21 < 1365820249 686026 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: quitidus21: not found < 1365820258 533523 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: so the adjunction looks a bit like hom(F a, b) \cong hom(a, U b)... i.e. for any [group] b can extend any function from a to the underlying set of b to a ~unique~ morphism from the free group to b < 1365820259 879586 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no is that how they made itidus21 leave the channel < 1365820286 987299 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: if you're familiar with linear algebra, this is a lot like how linear transformations are defined by their action on the basis. this is because all vector spaces are free. < 1365820287 220865 :Bicyclid1ne!~Glossina@67-5-221-81.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm itidus is online right now < 1365820319 194421 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: and with monoids that's like foldMap < 1365820328 533728 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :buddha was known to outsmart monkeys < 1365820329 266634 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1365820340 533126 :Bicyclid1ne!~Glossina@67-5-221-81.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :linear algebra is basically foldMap < 1365820352 727316 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t foldMap < 1365820354 546712 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Foldable t, Monoid m) => (a -> m) -> t a -> m < 1365820358 110217 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can turn a a function (a -> b) to the monoid homomorphism ([a] -> b) < 1365820370 283927 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1365820372 441523 :hagb4rd2!~perdito@koln-4db434e0.pool.mediaWays.net QUIT :Quit: hagb4rd2 < 1365820384 650838 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :which in haskell we just represent as a function anyway < 1365820439 358983 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so for that freegroup defn what you're doing is just representing the free group on a by this map from a->Uq functions to Fa->q morphismssms < 1365820464 912973 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, same as the free monoid < 1365820466 802810 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and this generalizes to any category with free objects not just Grp < 1365820469 644644 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :representing a list by its foldMap function < 1365820481 578560 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ye < 1365820482 170938 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :which gets you FMList < 1365820498 583099 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which by the way lets you express more than lists. but that's because haskell people are naughty) < 1365820520 579530 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Maybe you should call CodensityAsk something with a "free" in its name. < 1365820533 900060 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that's just because of that thing where haskell functions aren't monoid homomorphisms and you're not required to bijection < 1365820557 360849 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i mean the whole "infinite folds thing" < 1365820561 309247 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or do you mean that too?????) < 1365820573 314525 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> foldMap id [] < 1365820575 165792 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : () < 1365820581 703863 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh < 1365820604 131965 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :/dev/mempty < 1365820631 447162 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> foldMap id ([] :: [Int]) < 1365820632 83994 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: default instances < 1365820633 459934 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : No instance for (Data.Monoid.Monoid GHC.Types.Int) < 1365820633 654714 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : arising from a use of... < 1365820660 971614 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess for [] it tries mempty < 1365820669 96371 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1365820672 448343 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> mempty < 1365820674 318168 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : () < 1365820681 581338 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: well it has to try something < 1365820700 247225 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yes but i mean it's less about trying mempty and more about trying () as its default instance for Monoid < 1365820711 990617 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> foldMap id ([] :: [Sum Int]) < 1365820713 737034 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Sum {getSum = 0} < 1365820714 182586 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: no it tries mempty < 1365820723 299704 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :if that didn't work it would try mappend mempty mempty < 1365820724 709448 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"and so on" < 1365820732 450718 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't you know how computers work < 1365820732 820925 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :() is a good default for mempty < 1365820747 249719 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :as FreeFull says () is a good default for mempty < 1365820760 119016 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :class Monoid m where mempty :: m; mempty = (); mappend :: m -> m -> m < 1365820764 728836 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"good default" < 1365820765 423456 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :() is in general a good default, except when it's not and monomorphism restriction is fucking with you < 1365821009 968649 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: is your nick mnoqy 'because a message was sent to monqy' < 1365821024 101504 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that your secret < 1365821051 106355 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :() tells you nothing whatsoever other than "Yup. There's a () here. It's not a bottom." < 1365821065 290575 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a lot of telling. . . . < 1365821103 955635 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the minimum amount of telling without having just a bottom (Not to be confused with Just bottom) < 1365821135 151189 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :> () <= undefined < 1365821136 562137 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : *Exception: Prelude.undefined < 1365821140 615241 :Bicyclid1ne!~Glossina@67-5-221-81.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that's debateable, I mean, what if you knew it was an Integer? That narrows it down but there's still infinite objects it could be. < 1365821149 801072 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :> () /= undefined < 1365821151 498671 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : *Exception: Prelude.undefined < 1365821160 553551 :Bicyclid1ne!~Glossina@67-5-221-81.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (/=) < 1365821161 298843 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Eq and Ord instances for () aren't lazy < 1365821161 895427 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eq a => a -> a -> Bool < 1365821218 858113 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bicyclid1ne: "Yup. There is an Integer here. It has this and that value. It's not a bottom" < 1365821232 483307 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :The value bit is extra data < 1365821265 322398 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> take 4 . show $ [1..] < 1365821265 877644 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: not that i know of... < 1365821267 174409 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "[1,2" < 1365821276 994331 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> take 4 . show $ [1,2,3,undefined] < 1365821278 855685 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "[1,2" < 1365821282 67318 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perfect < 1365821290 162608 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :There should be a bottom bit, which is filled in by expressions that would be bottom. < 1365821310 143733 :Bicyclid1ne!~Glossina@67-5-221-81.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the evil bit joke just wasn't dorky enough < 1365821329 252095 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: Well, if you actually have the Integer, then you know it's not a bottom < 1365821338 907478 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :And if you have a bottom, you don't know it's not a bottom < 1365821346 129490 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bicyclid1ne: hey remember slashdot on "evil bit day" < 1365821353 686553 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, you don't know it's a bottom < 1365821360 491160 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except possibly in IO < 1365821365 473686 :Bicyclid1ne!~Glossina@67-5-221-81.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: why the fuck would i remember slashdot anything < 1365821392 745412 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :some bottoms are nicer than others < 1365821438 454061 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :divergence has that fun property where something something halting problem good luck telling if it's a bottom or just taking a long time to evaluate < 1365821457 382042 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but why would you care < 1365821464 687368 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh man i love that property < 1365821488 735274 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, you can tell something is an error < 1365821492 441573 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh no. < 1365821495 155930 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :But otherwise, good luck < 1365821496 688387 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion! < 1365821499 165422 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie! < 1365821504 504247 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Other Finnish people! < 1365821518 868287 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a finnish crissis < 1365821522 534508 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, reserving one bit for bottom is a waste, since in any sensible program you shouldn't get bottoms. So for Integer it should be like variable length to make it less important than actual integers, like 111... < 1365821562 459767 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: they switched to dst?? :'( < 1365821569 78523 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1365821578 210727 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :now look at this < 1365821579 564444 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :alt. serves em right. gosh ive been in dst for (weeks???) < 1365821583 79508 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sat Apr 13 05:51:17 EEST 2013 Europe/Helsinki < 1365821583 273481 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fri Apr 12 22:51:17 EDT 2013 America/New_York < 1365821588 638039 :Bicyclid1ne!~Glossina@67-5-221-81.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eest < 1365821590 134016 :Bicyclid1ne!~Glossina@67-5-221-81.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like it < 1365821595 50750 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :four letter time zone < 1365821596 91540 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: What about () and other equivalent types? < 1365821613 450679 :GOMADWarrior!~Regis@189.34.44.144 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365821621 243796 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those don't even exist at runtime AFAIK, at least not with GHC-compiled code < 1365821668 995294 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf! < 1365821691 382233 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: plz rename your time zone to something with three characters < 1365821732 899755 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :+03 < 1365822043 787323 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :EEST? O_O < 1365822059 435211 :Bicyclid1ne!~Glossina@67-5-221-81.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eeeeest < 1365822063 141873 :btiffin!~btiffin@24-212-223-48.cable.teksavvy.com PART :#esoteric < 1365822064 673487 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hi bike < 1365822079 211961 :Bicyclid1ne!~Glossina@67-5-221-81.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi fiora < 1365822080 926135 :Bicyclid1ne!~Glossina@67-5-221-81.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1365822089 150810 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-221-81.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is up < 1365822193 544609 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :relaxing at home because it's a friday and yay < 1365822199 97152 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-221-81.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hooray. < 1365822208 685573 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: () exists at runtime < 1365822211 249198 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Playing video games cause yaaay. < 1365822270 465460 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the value is represented by a pointer to a heap object, like any other value whose type has kind * < 1365822290 236131 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :except that since there's only one value () in the world, that object is allocated statically < 1365822300 534732 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :same for True and False and Nothing and other nullary type constructors < 1365822324 962753 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-221-81.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Surely optimization must elide it being represented in some cases. < 1365822356 422793 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: there are types in GHC that have no runtime representation (such as State# t) but they don't have kind * and can't be used polymorphically < 1365822371 283509 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: so that means that the compiler can do things like "if object == ()" by doing a pointer comparison? < 1365822392 4992 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, but don't know if it does < 1365822402 159343 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :In practice it'll probably check a tag bit in that case. < 1365822413 329997 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, yeah, it can't really do that < 1365822416 393054 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1365822420 109059 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because one side of the == might be an unevaluated thunk < 1365822422 800203 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-221-81.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :amazing how tagged the STG seems to be < 1365822424 848220 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I give you a () it could be an unev -- that. < 1365822428 218145 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would have to perfrom some arbitrary computation first < 1365822438 625079 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: it's tagged in a different sense from the original "tagless" < 1365822440 25770 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yes < 1365822444 241843 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but, like, wouldn't the pointer comparison still fail? < 1365822454 683862 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-221-81.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: but it wouldn't succeed for real ()s. < 1365822458 142587 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1365822466 734119 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so real ()s haven't be evaluated to static ()s < 1365822467 899327 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :true, you could have a fast check and then a slow check if they aren't equal < 1365822472 878760 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-221-81.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since haskell is nonstrict. < 1365822477 888498 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure that (==) on () is strict, anyway... < 1365822482 366713 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: But it's even faster to just check the tag bit. < 1365822484 35080 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (undefined :: ()) == () < 1365822485 702743 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : *Exception: Prelude.undefined < 1365822486 917737 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, which == are we talking about here? < 1365822488 723543 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yes, if the tag bit is there < 1365822494 680391 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one in Eq i assumed? < 1365822503 564450 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, wait. < 1365822508 310916 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't even read the question properly. < 1365822514 533560 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :()'s Eq and Ord are strict < 1365822532 319184 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: So you're talking about the case where you have a pointer to the static () object, but it's not tagged? < 1365822723 491484 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :GHC optimizes "data Result = Yes | No; foo x | x == () = Yes | otherwise = No" to "foo = \x -> case x of _ { () -> Yes }" < 1365822854 557907 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-221-81.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you see what it optimizes to? < 1365822876 151833 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lots and lots of wishful thinking. < 1365822884 534527 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I use ghc-core.) < 1365822885 552165 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-221-81.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, the usual. < 1365822887 778565 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: What's the _ there? < 1365822893 459105 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's Core syntax. < 1365822949 244523 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway that means that it checks the tags on its argument and then either "returns" Yes directy or evaluates the thunk and "then" "returns" Yes. < 1365823075 152236 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :If not for those darn bottoms, it wouldn't make a difference =P < 1365823148 609353 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then (== ()) = const True < 1365823333 82034 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :why isn't it just "foo = const True"? < 1365823336 545633 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1365823338 876778 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :"const Yes" < 1365823350 123749 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because (undefined == ()) isn't True < 1365823383 405880 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1365823391 749010 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it can't be false either, if it is not defined. < 1365823394 609382 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1365823420 369006 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo x = x `seq` Yes < 1365823426 101013 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :halting problem more like "computers are stupid and i hate them problem" < 1365823433 534277 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Yep, that's what that foo code means. < 1365823436 656084 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :case means seq. < 1365823472 639405 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fun fact: You can't do case null in Java < 1365823482 245139 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only way to catch that case is default < 1365823486 354437 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-221-81.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is case null a sex position? < 1365823487 45509 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fun fact: Java sucks < 1365823504 443038 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun fact: why is Sgeo saying things < 1365823528 790291 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't understand the things he's saying : : < 1365823541 508877 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I'm starting to see the subtle good parts in Java and the subtle bad parts in Java, rather than just the obvious bad parts in Java < 1365823564 128360 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey PRIVMSG #esoteric :the obvious good things about java is that you can get some results < 1365823571 15431 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey PRIVMSG #esoteric :and pretty quickly < 1365823573 557148 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that's about it < 1365823579 690948 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and it comes with a standard gui library < 1365823607 267691 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about package naming convention? < 1365823659 625817 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As long as no alternate DNS root starts becoming very popular, Java package names will be unique < 1365823674 679137 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Alternative < 1365823704 533157 :GOMADWarrior!~Regis@189.34.44.144 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1365823727 610700 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: how much would you pay for a hi tld < 1365823729 932247 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy.hi < 1365823731 512638 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy.hi < 1365823735 407215 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the possibilities are endless < 1365823803 214608 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whatever bitcoin's possibilties and failings, I think something along the lines of namecoin is possibly a good idea < 1365823807 405562 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could get .hi.us already if hawaii likes you enough < 1365823831 596791 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: um < 1365824092 800865 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: um < 1365824108 69039 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: dol um ber ist < 1365824741 1611 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-221-81.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there any esolangs based on the immune system? < 1365824936 198924 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: hmm. so like. you'd have some super simple esolang like a BF-like thing, except the purpose of the langage is to print characters in that lanugage ... and maybe like, the "execution" of your code is a systematic search for an input program that generates your code < 1365824940 361310 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that input program is the output of your code? < 1365824957 999408 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(vaguely similar to the immune system "massive exhaustive search for a thing that binds to the pathogen" thing) < 1365824963 823062 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-221-81.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds almost too direct < 1365824997 588990 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-221-81.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found out a guy who got a Nobel for immunology work had some developmental brain theories so now i'm thinking about things. < 1365825020 259201 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-221-81.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunately the immune system is really fucking complicated and more importantly I don't understand it. < 1365825020 696126 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: was it you < 1365825028 432396 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-221-81.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was me. < 1365825089 366811 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-221-81.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The font the Nobel people use for their PDFs is terrible. Somebody should make the stop. < 1365825092 223470 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-221-81.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :them* < 1365825142 468990 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-221-81.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Though both sciences still face exasperating problems, this lecture attempts to establish an analogy between linguistics and immunology, between the descriptions of language and of the immune system." < 1365825150 356110 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh oh < 1365825162 85033 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :linguists more like evil people with no souls < 1365825163 331211 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :who are bad < 1365825168 388852 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-221-81.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh snap! < 1365825179 86930 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-221-81.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently the term "immune response" is actually taken from linguistics. < 1365825195 423475 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :does that mean "it was in a language" < 1365825215 229055 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-221-81.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm guessing stimulus/response terminology. < 1365825231 734729 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: ooh. I know < 1365825236 142558 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :input: bf joust program < 1365825241 655010 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :output: bf joust program that always beats it < 1365825244 343743 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1365825246 227047 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-221-81.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haha. < 1365825259 536780 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-221-81.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's probably uncomputable. < 1365825276 543663 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-221-81.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i know shit about bfjoust. < 1365825277 592661 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so are linguists < 1365825281 257656 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :UNCOMPUTABLY AWFUL < 1365825292 11070 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-221-81.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have something you'd like to share with the class? < 1365825331 502948 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :THAT DES NOT COMPUTE -- Lost in Space robot, on linguists < 1365825404 431288 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-221-81.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Let me draw attention to the fact that this number of lymphocytes in the immune system is at least one order of magnitude larger than the number of neurons in the nervous system." neuroscience more like pointlessology < 1365825536 419695 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you could say it's so big < 1365825538 932958 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that it makes you nervous? < 1365825561 109601 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-221-81.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION makes gesture of mediocrity
< 1365829943 896960 :btiffin!~btiffin@24.212.223.48 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365830428 172394 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1365830563 380239 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1365831034 5149 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1365831866 663600 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1365832100 169683 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: have you idris < 1365832984 629458 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1365835979 429125 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? shachaf < 1365835982 861805 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf sprø som selleri and cosplays Nepeta Leijon on weekends. < 1365835984 691371 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? funpuns < 1365835986 413501 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :funpuns? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1365837507 698797 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1365837738 630206 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1365837755 499573 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly JOIN :#esoteric < 1365838058 327968 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nrrrr, I've been mentioned during the night. < 1365838100 954857 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Sorry! < 1365838101 165979 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right, EET -> EEST. < 1365838109 87419 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was just complaining about your time zone. < 1365838115 813953 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very irritating. Can you get it renamed? < 1365838121 297855 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that's very understandable. < 1365838143 649415 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you need to complain to the head guy of Eastern Europe. president@eastern.eu? < 1365838186 937215 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought they had a king. < 1365838227 795321 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe they've got both. < 1365838259 548014 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does the king of Finland think about that, hmm? < 1365838312 890740 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You might Cc: emperor@central.eu too, because CET changed to the equally stupid CEST; as well as tyrant@western.eu for WET -> WEST. (You could write a postscript about WET and WEST being innately silly too.) < 1365838331 153301 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :WEST isn't so bad < 1365838348 717463 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :WEST and EEST < 1365838357 83413 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :("What's your time zone?" "It's wet.") < 1365839708 635888 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1365839739 865104 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1365840075 32944 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PART :#esoteric < 1365840090 680733 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365840436 872924 :AnotherTest!~user@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1365840462 888523 :AnotherTest!~user@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Client Quit < 1365840825 839389 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-221-81.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1365841228 52126 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-179-240.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1365841409 783755 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.178.34 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365841683 417232 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.178.34 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1365841734 198278 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.115.210.249 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1365842578 236011 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.112 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365845190 197677 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.112 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1365846261 872992 :carado!~carado@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:221:63ff:fe9a:3747 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365846768 88428 :Snowyowl!5c6a583e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.106.88.62 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365847778 136378 :Snowyowl!5c6a583e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.106.88.62 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1365847870 597158 :carado!~carado@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:221:63ff:fe9a:3747 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1365847933 879997 :carado!~carado@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:221:63ff:fe9a:3747 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365848275 697630 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1365849441 875763 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1365849582 636852 :btiffin!~btiffin@24.212.223.48 PART :#esoteric < 1365849752 58541 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1365850629 42377 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1365851719 875725 :carado!~carado@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:221:63ff:fe9a:3747 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1365852753 606159 :ousia!~ousia@gateway/tor-sasl/ousia QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1365853010 207901 :ousia!~ousia@gateway/tor-sasl/ousia JOIN :#esoteric < 1365853257 908061 :carado!~carado@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:221:63ff:fe9a:3747 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365853369 905483 :carado_!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365853381 668138 :carado_!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Client Quit < 1365854166 201030 :ogrom!~del@143.122.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1365854633 958213 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist < 1365854639 277764 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1365855072 75277 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f16f.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365855695 131479 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f16f.pool.mediaWays.net QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1365855805 563237 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b67c5.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365856327 666200 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1365856732 583409 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365857924 612636 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1365858033 564592 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1365858984 578477 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: attn. http://esolangs.org/wiki/Revolution_9 < 1365859000 844199 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: i have used idris briefly < 1365859005 29966 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's it < 1365859006 36794 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i quit < 1365859808 50075 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony JOIN :#esoteric < 1365860235 842331 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :You just need to come up with a language more trivial than brainfuck < 1365860395 192439 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do? < 1365860522 381871 :GOMADWarrior!~Regis@189.34.44.144 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365860621 32273 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you must. < 1365860645 61294 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuous-repayment_mortgage < 1365860717 640967 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :“Gold pour – an illustration of literal cash "flow".” < 1365860896 249046 :carado!~carado@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:221:63ff:fe9a:3747 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1365860928 43801 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd rather not, if it's all the same to you. < 1365860941 932671 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365861894 567536 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric : “Gold pour – an illustration of literal cash "flow".” <-- what a terrible pun < 1365862857 863886 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1365863076 64814 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION slashes puns with a Vorpal sword
< 1365863234 595165 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365863279 273503 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-179-240.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365863301 220948 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't do that, they make a snickering sound. < 1365863417 497312 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b67c5.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.adamatomic.com/canabalt/mega/ < 1365863426 891483 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b67c5.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :THAT's a cool game..so classy! < 1365863475 937963 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b67c5.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :death sprint < 1365863650 16561 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1365863699 725977 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ThatOtherPerson, I only attacks Jabberwocks < 1365863703 936062 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :attack* < 1365863737 779493 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1365864004 560425 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.115.210.249 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365864148 555149 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.115.210.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION prints off a table of odd and even numbers for use in the office...
< 1365864944 49653 :Dmina!~Dmina@213.155.209.187 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365865309 54016 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's too hard to check if a number is even < 1365865315 472827 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless it is given in binary < 1365865324 772826 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :it which case it's still pretty hard but much easier. < 1365865327 413485 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :*in < 1365865420 932942 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had a dream just now where i was in a gymnasium and they had fire alarm pull stations but they also had a similarly shaped "call/cc alarm" which I think you were supposed to pull if you found a way to write call/cc (because it was expected that people in this gymnasium would be doing a lot of programming in total dependently-typed languages) < 1365865557 13318 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :on a computer I usually just do if((~(x & (INT_MAX >> 31))+1)==0) printf("it's even") < 1365865623 409661 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1365865641 323636 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: amazing < 1365865647 753893 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that or ((~(a & (INT_MAX >> 31))+1)*-1+1)%2 < 1365865671 694720 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote i had a dream just now where i was in a gymnasium and they had fire alarm pull stations but they also had a similarly shaped "call/cc alarm" which I think you were supposed to pull if you found a way to write call/cc (because it was expected that people in this gymnasium would be doing a lot of programming in total dependently-typed languages) < 1365865675 981830 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :1026) i had a dream just now where i was in a gymnasium and they had fire alarm pull stations but they also had a similarly shaped "call/cc alarm" which I think you were supposed to pull if you found a way to write call/cc (because it was expected that people in this gymnasium would be doing a lot of programming in total dependently-typed lan < 1365865687 120908 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck < 1365865870 734491 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is the kind of things in a dream that it might be. < 1365865960 342853 :Dmina!~Dmina@213.155.209.187 QUIT :Read error: Connection timed out < 1365866017 594722 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :As well as call/cc you might also try the other variant which I called "lem/cc"; I have proven that it works not only in logic but also in programming < 1365866080 576129 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have the dream where you are mainly observing the dream rather than acting the dream? < 1365866142 212021 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-179-240.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1365866153 545602 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not lately < 1365866156 731613 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the type of lem/cc? < 1365866228 383642 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Haskell it is: Cont r (Either a (a -> Cont r b)) < 1365866290 364551 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`delquote 1026 < 1365866295 578915 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*poof* i had a dream just now where i was in a gymnasium and they had fire alarm pull stations but they also had a similarly shaped "call/cc alarm" which I think you were supposed to pull if you found a way to write call/cc (because it was expected that people in this gymnasium would be doing a lot of programming in total dependently-typed < 1365866309 916129 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote i had a dream just now where i was in a gymnasium and they had fire alarm pull stations but they also had a similarly shaped "call/cc alarm" which I think you were supposed to pull if you found a way to write call/cc (it was expected that people in this gymnasium would be doing a lot of programming in total dependently-typed languages) < 1365866313 567442 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :1026) i had a dream just now where i was in a gymnasium and they had fire alarm pull stations but they also had a similarly shaped "call/cc alarm" which I think you were supposed to pull if you found a way to write call/cc (it was expected that people in this gymnasium would be doing a lot of programming in total dependently-typed languages) < 1365866359 32022 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't get it, what changed < 1365866472 766923 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: several characters were added to the end < 1365866597 934302 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1365866615 26220 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :he removed a "because" < 1365866716 789999 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1365866835 459941 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow such cheating < 1365866870 701589 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365866883 267277 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :technically I think we have to delete the new quote, then you can say your modified sentence and elliott can quote that < 1365866950 675920 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had a dream just now where i was in a gymnasium and they had fire alarm pull stations but they also had a similarly shaped "call/cc alarm" which I think you were supposed to pull if you found a way to write call/cc (it was expected that people in this gymnasium would be doing a lot of programming in total dependently-typed languages) < 1365866956 699430 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1365866957 377541 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: You have 2 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them. < 1365866973 198703 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :except now i'm the liar because it wasn't "just now" anymore!!! < 1365867004 47455 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: imo removing the "because" loses something < 1365867019 448660 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about we go back in time < 1365867025 484755 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and fix the irc rfc to allow more chars < 1365867031 222981 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or < 1365867041 507537 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shorten hackego's username to c and make it a single-digit-number quote < 1365867043 799848 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :would that be enough chars < 1365867141 942030 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :or make hackego split lines that are too long? < 1365867202 340510 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha ha ha < 1365867816 483720 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365868063 751037 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-221-81.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365868143 111651 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony JOIN :#esoteric < 1365868989 369210 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is putting large chunks of butter on my bagels a bad idea? < 1365869033 177937 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Define "large" < 1365869044 534378 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :THEY CRUSH THE BAGEL < 1365869046 716065 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1365869047 34616 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'll die irl < 1365869050 813304 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365869052 32465 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(R IP) < 1365869060 880455 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got crushed by the butter < 1365869076 926110 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really like butter. < 1365869077 136112 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, yeah with your diet you're at serious risk of coronary disease < 1365869125 790810 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION cannot tell if Phantom_Hoover is serious or joking
< 1365869161 650338 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo is most likely < 1365869189 882652 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, woops, Phantom_Hoover is most likely < 1365869217 229394 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I have been gaining quite a bit lately, if I'm not careful I could end up... with... too much weight... this is a bizarre concept for me < 1365869245 520855 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I mean butter is fatty, right? Is it a healthy kind of fat or an unhealthy fat? < 1365869305 947710 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unhealthy, I think < 1365869316 171219 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm seeing a lot of natural BS sites promoting butter as healthy < 1365869464 541602 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365869475 42761 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm still not sold on this idea that weight gain / loss depends so much on what /particular/ kind of fat / sugar / etc. you eat < 1365869504 966745 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, it's blood congestion rather than weight gain that the saturated/unsaturated thing is about < 1365869507 726097 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm no expert but in my end user capacity, i think that's a second order effect < 1365869514 391815 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-221-81.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"MONGOLIA'S MEGA-FISH IN FIGHT FOR SURVIVAL" just fyi, cablegate stuff from 'unimportant' countries is p. great < 1365869518 758079 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i thought Sgeo was talking about weight < 1365869527 114503 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-221-81.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"164-Foot Genghis Khan with Laser Eyes to Tower Over Niagara" < 1365869542 437041 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1365869564 871895 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :. . < 1365869570 71115 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1365869573 715527 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :[.. CSX ..] < 1365869593 759711 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-221-81.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently during the soviet era stuff about genghis was repressed due to that whole "conquered russia" thing < 1365869649 248824 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-221-81.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Although the Mongolian-Kuwait bilateral trade relationship remains minuscule, mostly trade in falcons," < 1365869659 578359 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :falconcoins < 1365869673 427569 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mongolia and Kuwait < 1365869694 495889 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-221-81.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Mongolia With Kuwait Against Iraq; Bond of Falcons" < 1365869717 827290 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-221-81.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow apparently a mongolian falcon is around $7k to buy < 1365869743 784438 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, while trying to gain weight, I don't feel like having a heart attack from having the wrong kinds of fats floating around < 1365869857 64746 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My dad suggests after some time I should get a lipid profile. Haven't heard of that before, but that sounds like it makes sense < 1365869968 847098 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I ate teriyaki sirloin steak yesterday < 1365869979 546018 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the sauce had more flavor than the steak < 1365870136 387334 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the sauce is specifically designed to have flavor < 1365870142 41877 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the steak is just meat < 1365870155 641911 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So why do people like steak so much then? < 1365870188 240879 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They even tell me that getting steak well-done ruins it < 1365870198 595837 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-179-240.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365870212 901076 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I had it medium-well last night) < 1365870403 538472 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, I like it meat in small chunks with the hell cooked out of them, because they've got a more fun texture that way < 1365870527 710025 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.178.34 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365870566 649940 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-179-240.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1365870609 643907 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, uncooked beef has hell in it??? < 1365870651 876797 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1365870688 297106 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.178.34 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> "hell" `elem` ["uncooked","beef"] < 1365870689 621774 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : False < 1365870693 414291 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.178.34 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1365870774 262815 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you've ever eaten uncooked beef that has sat out for too long then you'd know all about the hell in it < 1365870776 514818 :Bike_!~Glossina@71-34-69-125.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365870885 724934 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-221-81.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1365870907 222509 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1365870914 707782 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, people are weird about steak < 1365870935 935741 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: you also get the fun texture if only the outside is burnt < 1365870961 556973 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365870971 557428 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: not fun enough < 1365870986 978062 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1365871062 885709 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365871081 47647 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Windows XP makes wireless networking with your computer easy and secure, so you can work where you want, when you want." < 1365871114 226810 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you cook sous vide steak, you get to keep all the juices and can put them on mashed potatoes, which makes them delicious < 1365871129 373662 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which demonstrates that steak itself is not flavorless < 1365871134 136284 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah, plain steak is kind of sad < 1365871140 685396 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sous vide? < 1365871155 695118 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Experience the ultimate in safety, security, and privacy" < 1365871158 715494 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah right < 1365871163 813408 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest, are you watching XPTV? < 1365871176 739503 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need seasonings (garlic, salt, pepper) and sides (mashed potatoes, fried mushrooms, french fries, greens, etc) < 1365871191 264028 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, there's this great show on "Registering components" < 1365871198 115047 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's not really fair to claim that the steak is not doing anything < 1365871201 479371 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then once in a while this black DOS screen pops up < 1365871202 651157 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :flavors are not linear additive < 1365871206 402176 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aO0jumwHdg&list=PLBFD29B2364412ABA < 1365871207 95645 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :"We've removed DOS" < 1365871210 79665 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest, ^ < 1365871210 274200 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :flavors enhance each other < 1365871214 593735 :Bike_!~Glossina@71-34-69-125.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1365871228 603304 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: sous vide is a way of cooking meats that was popular first with gourmet chefs and now with hobbyists < 1365871280 991540 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: the goal of cooking a steak is to raise the interior to only about 135°F; traditionally this is done by grilling or frying at a much higher temperature, but then you need to be really careful about the time to make sure you don't over-cook it < 1365871313 559310 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :to cook a steak sous vide, you vacuum-seal it in a plastic bag and then put that in a water bath at 135°F or whatever, for an hour or more < 1365871328 441565 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the whole thing reaches that temperature and therefore reaches exactly the level of done-ness you want < 1365871334 529527 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, that sounds science-y < 1365871338 133123 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you quickly fry it to get the crunchy outside texture < 1365871340 479613 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it's great < 1365871350 62689 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do it with a crock pot, a temperature sensor, and an arduino < 1365871359 436132 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are lots of DIY sous vide projects online that you can read about < 1365871392 501805 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :some other dishes involve cooking for 48+ hours this way < 1365871421 34810 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently you can also cook cheap steak this way and make it delicious, because if it's in long enough, the tough stringy connective tissue starts to gelatenize < 1365871600 543089 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-179-240.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365871710 86926 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not entirely sure why steak has quite the reputation it does... Its flavor is really fairly subtle. < 1365871720 919994 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which reputation is that? < 1365871735 635543 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1365871748 162282 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: The everyman kinda-expensive food that people really like? < 1365871773 299603 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1365871776 891227 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a little strange < 1365871840 824976 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, I like it, but it's kinda one of those more... delicate things. Y'know? < 1365871884 101694 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, who am I kidding, most people probably just slather steak sauce on it. And then it tastes rather different. :P < 1365872015 750660 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-179-240.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1365872143 869313 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are there so many people in the channel that never talk? < 1365872149 304933 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is it called steak sauce? Does it not taste good on other kinds of meat? Or on bread, or lettuce? < 1365872173 602234 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Beats me. < 1365872176 826854 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: Because I can't talk anything smart :) < 1365872194 658938 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though it's *essentially* UK "brown sauce". < 1365872205 798398 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork, because we are funny to watch, perhaps < 1365872208 159257 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and americans can't make sauce . < 1365872215 94392 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: I don't see these guy talk anything smart < 1365872222 472913 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*or gals < 1365872230 110554 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer pepper sauce to brown sauce < 1365872232 551132 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't guys used for gals too? < 1365872241 912424 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes < 1365872252 770371 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: most channels have that < 1365872253 433479 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least on television a bunch of girls usually address each other also with "hey guys" < 1365872267 613663 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: i used to put it on lots of things besides steak < 1365872272 820493 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :names are arbitrary < 1365872286 827575 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes I think "guys" is becoming gender-neutral < 1365872295 785646 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm assuming guy still means male. < 1365872298 307175 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and to some extent "dude" as well < 1365872309 273992 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but guys is usaly gender-neutral. < 1365872312 667372 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :*usually < 1365872313 809008 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i don't really think that's true < 1365872316 880947 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i'm still somewhat careful about it < 1365872318 184465 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :like the french "ils". < 1365872337 272072 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :English needs better pronouns < 1365872346 591332 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i use "they" as a gender-neutral third-person singular < 1365872355 779360 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i also use "y'all" as a second person plural < 1365872372 528938 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :even though i'm not from the south and don't have a southern accent < 1365872379 653190 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you guys is my regional second person plural < 1365872388 621408 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :As long as you dont use "yo s*" < 1365872397 463078 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are some strange ones, like "yinz" < 1365872404 767897 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(pittsburgh area) < 1365872415 191575 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a shortened you-ones < 1365872415 386907 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the "guys being gender neutral" thing I think is mainly because "male is the default gender" so < 1365872432 367844 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, this is a reason to be careful < 1365872471 949395 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :though whenever I think of replacements for that one I imagine someone in like, a southern drawl going "hey ya'llllll" < 1365872475 434305 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1365872481 21599 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guys is male by default but when the facts clearly show that not everyone is male it temporarily stretches to be inclusive < 1365872526 201219 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't really make any sense < 1365872535 449438 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's bad that language is so gendered and it's not clear in each individual case whether it's better to invent new non-gendered forms or to try and ignore the gendered connotations in hopes that they go away < 1365872542 888899 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think there's an obvious answer to that < 1365872557 366533 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :both approaches can be harmful < 1365872602 738709 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been in online places that invent new forms, and in online places that are explicit about the gendered forms being non-gendered by default < 1365872624 840398 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't really change the meaning of words by fiat like that < 1365872629 682730 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The natural solution seems to be to use the nearest form that is unpolluted by the connotations you dislike. < 1365872632 283329 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't just magically say something doesn't have gendered connotations by stating so... < 1365872636 951621 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :surely this is obvious < 1365872637 408996 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a big fallacy of programmers < 1365872641 436332 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and maybe lawyers?) < 1365872642 400011 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.112 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365872648 64634 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it works in those specialized domains < 1365872651 2030 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :>.> they were both law-y games < 1365872654 679962 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well then. < 1365872660 438401 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Yes but what if we could? < 1365872669 989523 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have signed contracts that have clauses like "In this document, the word "he" shall refer to blah blah" < 1365872670 347523 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1365872680 454041 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and "The word "or" shall mean "either/or"" < 1365872682 113545 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and crap like that < 1365872690 985984 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :then we would be in a magical fantasy land where there would be no point to ahve words with gendered connotations anyway < 1365872694 27493 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so... < 1365872698 487800 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, it's like the whole thing with "well isn't actually racist, it really means , as if like, saying so magically removes all the meaning it's gathered after 200 years < 1365872707 787919 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :" < 1365872710 437858 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :closed that quote for you < 1365872711 821321 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1365872714 849479 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :something something hofstadter < 1365872715 44014 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry XD < 1365872730 555578 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably everything we are saying is part of some quote in a parenthical someone started in 2004 < 1365872731 235286 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or the sort of opposite "well when I said it I didn't *mean* it in a racist way so it's fine" < 1365872733 589552 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :person paper on the purity of language? < 1365872736 260808 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the longest IRC message ever < 1365872746 942991 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: quite < 1365872748 839423 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :)" < 1365872756 576351 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it's the other way around < 1365872759 244248 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you fool!!!! < 1365872761 933351 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :now what will we do < 1365872767 78184 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :syntax error < 1365872772 419589 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :universe collapsing in 5, 4, 3 ... < 1365872785 147981 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :finally i can stop wasting time on irc < 1365872802 825576 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :» < 1365872815 215603 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I've kind of inadvertantly/subconsciously defaulted to the "hey guys" thing myself but when I do it consciously I just try to pick better phrases < 1365872818 762019 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like "hi everyone" < 1365872830 936259 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i say "y'all" and i'm not ashamed of it < 1365872834 276089 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't grow up saying it though < 1365872835 574346 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olla nosotros? < 1365872840 170105 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like, there's enough options that I don't feel like it has to be awkward or hard < 1365872841 887569 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm from the midwest, we have the "neutral" american accent < 1365872842 82311 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*holla < 1365872853 351363 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been in a chatroom that auto-kicked when someone says "y'all" < 1365872857 737809 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :except for certain words that will get you mocked on the coasts < 1365872858 937797 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: not anymore youdon't < 1365872859 943319 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"hey assholes" < 1365872861 430752 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like using "pop" for soda < 1365872873 38697 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel ridiculous trying to say y'all XD < 1365872878 405612 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yawl < 1365872881 377697 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because I am like so not stereotypically southerner or midwestern in the slightest < 1365872883 533787 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: "Good morning sinners!" < 1365872891 536354 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: how do you mean < 1365872892 68920 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like "peeps" < 1365872902 665662 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Good morning siners!" < 1365872918 12253 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good morning signers < 1365872939 693656 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_cities_vowel_shift < 1365872940 749880 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good morning singers < 1365872948 697579 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm pretty nervous about language stuff in general since i realized how closely tied it is to racism and national suppression >_> < 1365872952 833314 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1365872969 971827 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I read your good morning signers as singers at first, and wanted to do the firey version) < 1365873119 157383 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just say "good morning not-bikes" < 1365873125 991599 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that will say hi to everyone who matters < 1365873154 161928 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( :( < 1365873170 379981 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nikes?? < 1365873175 875593 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-179-240.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365873359 353685 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's capitalist Bike < 1365873374 69046 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or greek < 1365873579 113816 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony JOIN :#esoteric < 1365873879 389479 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : and i also use "y'all" as a second person plural < 1365873887 660934 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :er the correct form is youse < 1365873906 885071 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :vosotros < 1365873907 164915 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is also "all ya'lls" < 1365873916 300485 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wasn't "you" originally plural exclusively? < 1365873920 613612 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1365873942 727198 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't vosotros only used in spain and argentina/ < 1365873954 34447 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1365873957 987749 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, and Saudi Arabia, evidently < 1365873965 48288 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: heh, no < 1365873969 732960 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, lots of castilian speakers there < 1365873980 789108 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :But they mention it in passing in Spanish class < 1365874000 380195 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In latin, the plural is "vos" and the singular is "tu" < 1365874016 125335 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's similar in French, I believe, but I seem to recall that "vous" can be plural or formal < 1365874016 668877 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, my spanish class mentioned the v's but didn't teach us them since it was central america oriented. < 1365874025 896672 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1365874026 91263 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-V_distinction < 1365874068 21962 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :honestly when using "vous" as formal singular I never know whether I should write all the adjectives and stuff in singular or plural < 1365874133 812220 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, between "thou", "you", "y'all", and "all y'all", English has access to four different numbers of you < 1365874185 675858 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :when was the last time you used thou? < 1365874188 527526 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :"all y'all" is for the redundancy inclined < 1365874207 625622 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: somewhere from the 1600s to the early 1800s < 1365874222 530909 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OHGOD I DIDN'T IMAGINE YOU WOULD BE SO OLD < 1365874246 67906 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_, I used "thou" this afternoon < 1365874248 210839 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :all ya'll exists because y'all tends to be used for situations where prototypically the number of people are indeterminate. < 1365874264 756235 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so all ya'll means "each and every one of you" < 1365874279 894561 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: were you courting a lady < 1365874293 742503 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_, as it happens, yes < 1365874301 157356 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: in that case, the last time I used "thou" was about six words ago. < 1365874304 192801 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're so transparent < 1365874349 395807 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :The last time I courted a lady was never. < 1365874355 964933 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not as transparent as this guy: http://25.media.tumblr.com/3456e6adde7f9c89c55dc5afabf269f5/tumblr_ml7amfP5Bt1r3u0x4o4_500.png < 1365874357 112641 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ThatOtherPerson: I meant with people who don't discuss the semantics of each and every one of the languages they know on a regular basis < 1365874380 604742 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_, that also rules me out < 1365874403 615025 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: then maybe several days ago? < 1365874406 487610 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, is that you < 1365874410 336673 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1365874415 175022 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am a strange person and say strange things sometimes. < 1365874416 869939 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am somewhat less transparent < 1365874422 965916 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: were you courting Fiora? < 1365874429 367381 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_, no, I was not < 1365874433 407965 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1365874435 404163 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe Fiora was in a different country < 1365874439 328435 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is this conversation < 1365874456 404746 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: were you courting Lymia? < 1365874467 537036 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure Lymia was in a different country again < 1365874470 747184 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I believe we are discussing ladies and how one courts them, if ever. < 1365874487 883740 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: are you just going to name everyone female in the channel & why < 1365874494 292352 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The person whom I was courting I do not believe frequents this channel, or indeed IRC < 1365874500 617757 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe I just did elliott < 1365874507 615941 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, a normal human < 1365874515 219462 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ThatOtherPerson, not quite < 1365874519 836341 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :She goes on TVTropes a lot < 1365874527 701081 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh better than a normal human < 1365874536 977879 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :-rol- < 1365874539 860121 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :-rolll- < 1365874542 925263 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: do you discuss the semantics of each and every one of the languages you know on a regular basis with every lady that you have met so far? < 1365874545 766288 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION rolls
< 1365874565 180329 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_, no, only the ones who were interested in this sort of thing < 1365874578 944183 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh good < 1365874602 780079 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what's your standard courting move? < 1365874608 49092 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1365874616 591536 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty convinced discussion the semantics of sex should work pretty well < 1365874630 532335 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We talked about vowel mergers < 1365874642 428521 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For instance the cot-caught merger < 1365874643 686656 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :still not at all clear on how this came up in the first place < 1365874650 114831 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if they're scientific they'll feel a deep need to perform the experiment < 1365874657 453139 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, I'm being interrogated on my love life < 1365874663 713108 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the context of linguistics < 1365874672 164047 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey! you're the one who brought it to my attention! < 1365874680 933288 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You asked! < 1365874690 853960 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION giggles
< 1365874708 863848 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm still surprised I actually have a love life < 1365874712 995772 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Giggles are nice. < 1365874730 238279 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :besides I've just been deemed admissible to a school where apparently everyone is even more of a geek than I am and that includes the suprisingly high number of girls < 1365874751 903274 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh jesus is this still about the 42.fr thing < 1365874760 442592 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: has a guy ever discussed the semantics of a language with you? Other than on IRC, I mean. < 1365874772 619339 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_, being a geek is surprisingly gender-neutral < 1365874778 458951 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most of my friends who are geeks are female < 1365874787 672941 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And most of my friends who are female are geeks, as it happens < 1365874798 211074 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hu < 1365874807 398823 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have approximately 0 friends who are geeks < 1365874832 84056 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION bites the head off of a chicken.
< 1365874840 679217 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i agree with Gregor < 1365874842 839582 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have approximately 0 friends fuck you won the contest oh yeah < 1365874854 683427 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i agree with Bike too < 1365874855 89428 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy, you seem different somehow < 1365874860 453739 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you had a haircut? < 1365874884 522612 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't remember the last time i had one of those. wait i think i do -vaguely- < 1365874886 744668 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: huh, what do feathers mixed with blood and eyes and muscle and bones and various organs taste like? < 1365874893 621888 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"geek" is a pretty broad category at this point < 1365874902 456040 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ThatOtherPerson: Just like chicken. < 1365874912 4900 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I think mnoqy got an alphabetical sort < 1365874947 807219 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, I'm using it in the sense of "willing to be openly enthusiastic of things they like, especially things such as super-hero movies" < 1365874949 573564 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :geek communities vary widley in terms of gender ratio, and in terms of how they treat women < 1365874978 760686 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't bite the head off of roosters. < 1365875005 756539 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :one thing I've learned (from talking to the people who work on this problem) is that if your local language user group meetup is 3% women and you want it to be 30% women, there are some fairly concrete steps you can take to make this happen fairly quickly < 1365875017 63444 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh like what < 1365875017 258433 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: are you one of those guys to whom the hairdresser says "see you next year" after a haircut? < 1365875046 677730 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i went off of hairdressers cold-turkey < 1365875062 224150 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :realisation of the day: my keyboard's chording is too shitty to play girp < 1365875066 109119 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy just occasionally burns off his hair < 1365875106 229586 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: well the Boston Python group had intro and intermediate classes for "women and their friends", producing a group which is at least 50% women (and ensuring that the men who show up know someone rather than being random creepers) < 1365875127 845789 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and this had an immediate effect on the ratio at the gender-neutral events < 1365875140 191076 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1365875146 392371 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, that sucks < 1365875153 129881 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :girp? < 1365875166 375821 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ThatOtherPerson, http://www.foddy.net/GIRP.html < 1365875174 828428 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :going to freshman physics and CS classes and there being a 9/1 ratio is still creepy as hell < 1365875177 564750 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a climbing sim from the maker of QWOP < 1365875201 806214 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My further maths class has a 10:0 male/female ration < 1365875203 73447 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :should be a dating sim imo < 1365875204 115248 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*ratio < 1365875223 30920 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A male/female ration would be interesting < 1365875243 328878 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.slideshare.net/kellan/more-women-in-engineering-something-that-actually-worked-14630106 < 1365875248 207551 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And perhaps illegal < 1365875250 448929 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is about Etsy and Hacker School < 1365875256 441356 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :O_o < 1365875279 756098 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(my less far maths class I think is about 4:1) < 1365875296 44228 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(my latin class is 1:4) < 1365875312 32618 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :last week I helped run http://wellesley.openhatch.org/ < 1365875314 922534 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(except someone hasn't turned up since Christmas so it's really (1:3) < 1365875315 878694 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1365875347 699774 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, I have many keyboards! < 1365875351 577431 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"something that ACTUALLY WORKED" i'm sorry kmc but i have to laugh at this subtitle < 1365875386 116698 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh, ratios < 1365875417 369332 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://image.slidesharecdn.com/firstroundctosummit-121008002521-phpapp02/95/slide-19-728.jpg?1360178044 i still find it hard to believe that they make you actually write out code. i'm so naive < 1365875449 264530 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://image.slidesharecdn.com/firstroundctosummit-121008002521-phpapp02/95/slide-26-728.jpg?1360178044 nice < 1365875450 582122 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :writing code out on paper sucks ass < 1365875466 512235 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1365875471 16447 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i did that a lot in high school < 1365875471 539533 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you even girp < 1365875472 385863 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :never again < 1365875477 552156 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :or qwop for that matter < 1365875486 428562 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ThatOtherPerson: are those vim commands < 1365875496 876676 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yeah, I took AP CS, we had to write out C++ code by hand < 1365875502 83287 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's how I finally learned how to draw the & character < 1365875503 737042 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not easy! < 1365875512 811321 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: apparently they are impossible < 1365875515 999430 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :games < 1365875532 195492 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :qwop I've never got the hang of < 1365875540 310379 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :girp I'm almost competent at < 1365875553 208964 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i always used to draw & backwards >_> < 1365875559 938832 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :& is cool i write it all the time < 1365875588 804646 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"SUBJECT: WARNING: TAINTED LOCAL VODKA KILLS 11 IN MONGOLIA " these cables are seriously great < 1365875596 279900 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i write & as et < 1365875612 386614 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you some kinda classicist, boy < 1365875625 93210 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i construct & as et < 1365875633 746756 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`-` < 1365875635 119793 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: -`: not found < 1365875643 68083 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i "exclude" the middle by not putting any space between the letters < 1365875653 80516 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :’-’ < 1365875729 801707 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: more recently I've done coding interviews with an actual computer < 1365875737 93603 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa, man. < 1365875749 453385 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :often those are only partly about the code, and partly about watching how someone works < 1365875755 412524 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how easily they can look up docs, grep a codebase < 1365875759 97740 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :judging them by their choice of editor < 1365875760 977873 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1365875762 633057 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1365875785 785851 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yeah, that list of 4 rules from Hacker School is good < 1365875813 114800 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :my editor habits are weird < 1365875814 547390 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the even worse form of (2) that I hear often is "You do know that $foo, right?" < 1365875821 255399 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i switch between emacs and vim constantly < 1365875848 59796 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm always just like, ugh, can't you talk about this without being so elitist < 1365875869 174596 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i say that kind of thing impulsively a lot and then feel guilty for being condescending < 1365875880 530684 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i usually have emacs on but i use vi to edit files quickly because i'm too dumb to work out emacsclient. i figure knowing both decently isn't so bad, anyway < 1365875881 771869 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, you should disappear for a bit then go to an interview done by kmc under a false name < 1365875887 647087 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(successfully made this issue about myself) < 1365875923 870511 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I complain publicly about how people communicate as a way to commit to communicating better myself < 1365875927 716205 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's maybe half of it < 1365875932 580552 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other half is that i like complaining < 1365875935 804981 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never learnt vim, and am barely competent at emacs < 1365875960 973582 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically you just do C-S-c M- M-x dwim < 1365875982 836086 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that how you exit emacs? < 1365876003 325697 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't emacs some sort of OS? < 1365876012 849257 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, you need mount separate < 1365876020 593381 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1365876051 547306 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :and maybe vim for a text editor? < 1365876068 720622 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :[joke comparing emacs to an operating system] [sitcom laugh track] < 1365876077 504791 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :[joke about emacs lacking an editor] [sitcom laugh track] < 1365876094 155791 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1365876102 999192 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man, I want a sitcom laugh track < 1365876124 348551 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably pretty easy to find < 1365876128 754677 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Step 1: Get some speakers < 1365876133 506521 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The Soviet Hangover: Alcoholism Threatens Mongolia's Progress" < 1365876135 887196 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Step 2: Glue them to yourself < 1365876136 95625 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just have to "know" where to "look" < 1365876148 114493 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Step 3: Find laugh track online < 1365876166 797011 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Step 4: put it on mp3 player, plug it in to speakers < 1365876180 661702 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Step 5: press "play" whenever you make a bad joke < 1365876271 345602 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would be interesting if someone actually did that. < 1365876304 852920 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everyone would hate me < 1365876311 416432 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be awful :☺) < 1365876624 497121 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Absolutely dreadful. < 1365876633 563419 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.178.34 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1365876747 92388 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365877099 712656 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ThatOtherPerson: semantics of language...? I.. I don't know... probably someone has rambled about that at some point... < 1365877106 812657 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.178.34 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365877113 704866 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1365877120 198803 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a really bad memory, I can't really remember many details beyond a week or two ago... < 1365877138 920504 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION too
< 1365877140 676839 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, it probably wouldn't be that memorable < 1365877203 931218 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd probably only remember it if it was a more emotional moment (like if it was frustrating or painful or something...) < 1365877215 412511 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :babe are you a kalmyk because *rambles about altaic theory for twenty minutes* < 1365877236 128442 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha < 1365877266 161611 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :all the ladies love historical linguistics < 1365877340 757974 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :What, precisely, is a kalmyk? < 1365877388 754377 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the kalmyk republic is part of western russia. the kalmyk people who make up about half of it are mongolic and speak a mongolian language called kalmyk. < 1365877391 453054 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I couuuld argue that someone telling me about how 'cunt' isn't a gendered insult is 'telling me about the semantics of language' < 1365877395 779529 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is "fiora-relevant" because it's a chess place. < 1365877404 120666 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1365877424 4301 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: I feel sorry for you D: < 1365877443 10373 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Altaic theory is an idea that a couple asian language groups like Turkic, Mongolic, and Japonic are all actually part of a larger grouping called Altaic. It's pretty non-mainstream. < 1365877486 923211 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoa < 1365877492 802473 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: ;_; < 1365877514 458471 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa? < 1365877526 686918 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aohw < 1365877527 917321 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: i'm trying to imagine a pickup line for this < 1365877590 336253 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not working < 1365877613 889618 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just imagine a guy in a suit and fedora walking up to a seat at the bar, and opening his mouth, and then cockroaches pour out < 1365877674 530493 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-18-72.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1365877708 82427 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-18-72.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1365877708 316527 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1365877868 100942 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I am like dying laughing at that metaphor < 1365877882 135995 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :metap- oh, right, yeah < 1365877902 773513 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gross < 1365877945 290914 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fact: whenever i try to picture a stereotypical bar scene, i always think of that one scene from naked lunch < 1365878122 154927 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :naked lunch? < 1365878146 133737 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the cronenberg film adapted from the burroughs book < 1365878164 733932 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :guy walks up to a bar and the mugwump, a weird looking alien creature starts advising him about a gay cruise < 1365878186 91529 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i misread that as gay cuisine. like, what's that. < 1365878201 178665 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dick. < 1365878211 499932 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Richard. < 1365878274 746324 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't find the bar scene so have some Zappa instead http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MsO1FLYee8 < 1365878282 866422 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :m-hm < 1365878285 301242 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :-disappointedly- < 1365878388 247019 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: Gay cuisine is nothing but spotted dick. < 1365878402 681319 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry you're a bit late to the party < 1365878407 674148 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: you also didn't get to see the part of that conversation where the guy was arguing about how complaining about someone "PMSing" isn't at all sexist <.< < 1365878423 48815 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait is this the ##asm thing < 1365878436 596470 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1365878445 437955 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :##asm sounds like hell < 1365878445 796569 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i think i remember that, unfortunately < 1365878466 521419 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i couldn't tell you, i got banned, 'cos i'm a rebel. ain't be tamed < 1365878473 40777 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1365878494 620121 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :got banned for using AT&T syntax < 1365878496 323912 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"just unforgivable" < 1365878498 936249 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :XP < 1365878501 507251 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I lasted like an hour there < 1365878502 547255 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1365878515 308434 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was actually fine most of the time? like it was better than ##c even < 1365878519 196598 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this also led me to learn that freenode doesn't count slurs as discriminatory or something < 1365878523 49533 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :despite not really having a good mod like ##c does < 1365878523 747423 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"better than ##c" < 1365878528 915446 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever, fuck the police < 1365878533 888811 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION joins ##asm
< 1365878535 824607 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(though she's mostly pretty hands off) < 1365878544 210172 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: you sure it wasn't just that guy whose name started with X who was good? < 1365878556 195091 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is ##asm about asm in general, or a particular asm in particular? < 1365878556 389516 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1365878559 733609 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1365878559 928454 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 1d 18h 8m 55s ago: You seem to have missed User:EzraFrier < 1365878562 566587 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay maybe -_- but like there were lots of people who asked questions and talked about things and people even like, asked me for help in PM < 1365878564 428660 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does ##asm think of TERSE < 1365878564 624257 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: in general < 1365878568 935052 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: oh, huh < 1365878569 129612 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I had to guess it'd be about x86 assembly. < 1365878580 299167 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I got a grand total of just two creepy people the whole time, that's a new record < 1365878583 734454 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it's general, even says so in the topic, and people asked about ARM &c. < 1365878594 682234 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i spent like a week in ##c helping beginners, and then one day I answered a question wrong and they were like STFU YOU FUCKING MORON GET OUT < 1365878607 464152 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I don't really want to stick around watching people get called "PMSing cunts" < 1365878607 809350 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was about variable length arrays "who even uses those" < 1365878609 332111 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION does not envy women on the internet.
< 1365878621 821078 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I love VLAs. < 1365878624 780258 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: it really seems to wildly depend on who's active in the channel < 1365878628 49406 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!tell oerjan good catch, I indeed missed it < 1365878629 168766 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does ##c actually have good ops < 1365878635 227163 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not on the stack, mind, but hey. < 1365878636 533230 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I rejoined it after having like, a 4 hour conversation with the moderator there < 1365878637 791512 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because that seems to be at odds with ##c being the worst channel in the universe < 1365878645 212246 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :who is kind of wonderful < 1365878646 801484 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and fun to talk with < 1365878649 719207 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo(char bar[static 4]) is quite nice. < 1365878653 719945 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, one of the moderators,I don't know if there's others < 1365878657 249281 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: @ < 1365878658 161841 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not ! < 1365878663 742066 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan good catch, I indeed missed it < 1365878663 936554 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1365878666 753650 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or foo(size_t x, char bar[x]) < 1365878672 797129 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: right < 1365878679 807605 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm… the most annoying thing about rebinding caps lock < 1365878685 104781 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that in the rare cases you turn it on by mistake < 1365878690 344495 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it takes a while to remember how to turn it off < 1365878703 5473 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I rebound the caps lock key to compose, and the caps lock command to shift+shift) < 1365878729 888438 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is caps lock ever useful < 1365878737 293025 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It makes a great control. < 1365878740 379597 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you're typing disclaimers < 1365878747 634905 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : i just hold shift < 1365878749 224621 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've got l-win as compose. < 1365878759 243885 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: huh? super is a really useful key < 1365878764 888426 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: did you see the linux exploit that happened because someone used a VLA on the stack < 1365878767 902535 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm, r-win < 1365878769 572560 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and kernel stacks are only 8kB < 1365878772 219656 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :L-win is super. < 1365878775 512258 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: right < 1365878779 8187 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this laptop doesn't have an r-win < 1365878781 340977 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i use the silly menu key as compose. no R-win… < 1365878783 519891 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and by "someone" i mean econet.ko < 1365878789 90641 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: No, but I can imagine. :) < 1365878790 897805 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh gosh. a VLA in the kernel? < 1365878791 395022 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: the menu key is actually useful < 1365878801 438125 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :econet.ko? < 1365878819 309102 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: VLAs in general are quite nice. The problem is, *on the stack* they are an attack waiting to happen. < 1365878825 186327 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: it's probably the fastest way to correct typos when you can't remember what the correct spelling is < 1365878833 853111 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: Linux driver for Econet, a network protocol used by British home computers from the 80's < 1365878838 540613 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a driver that /nobody/ uses anymore < 1365878840 268162 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't work out how to set my compose key < 1365878842 784286 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's horrible < 1365878849 126861 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: good point except i dont use editors with that feature =/ < 1365878849 595886 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But when passed as arguments they make array handling somewhat nicer. < 1365878852 612900 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :since nobody uses it, it's full of bugs < 1365878860 472911 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but until recently, it was part of the kernel and built by most distros < 1365878871 671939 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it would even auto-load if unprivileged userspace tried to create an Econet socket! < 1365878872 525195 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for some reason my e-mail composition spell check doesnt work < 1365878874 307124 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: um, VLAs can be not on the stack? < 1365878887 396329 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: wow < 1365878898 471913 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: Yes. void foo(size_t x, char bar[x]) < 1365878922 262093 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or void foo(size_t x, size_t y, char bar[x][y]) < 1365878927 137011 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's pretty cute < 1365878936 363658 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: http://pastebin.com/88EPCd2q a fun exploit for one bug in econet < 1365878947 217864 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, isn't that just the same as a pointer...? < 1365878948 27229 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it actually exploits 3 bugs < 1365878950 572188 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is there some different < 1365878952 433204 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*difference < 1365878957 283777 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the most interesting one is not in econet < 1365878961 484668 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: No, it's actually an array. Straight-up a full array. < 1365878977 593895 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: As opposed to void foo(char bar[4]), which is just a pointer. < 1365878986 566403 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And void foo(char bar[static 4]) is also an array. < 1365878990 764338 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :very cute < 1365878995 910125 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@_@ I will never quite get C < 1365878996 114759 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : I will never quite get C < 1365879003 771806 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks lambdabot < 1365879012 659081 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For what it's worth, this is a fairly obscure bit of C. < 1365879040 683958 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :super obscure I'd say < 1365879045 355156 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Added in C99, and many people still avoid C99 features like the plague. < 1365879055 721389 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like C99 :< < 1365879060 344639 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love C99. < 1365879068 849931 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But some people think they should still support MSVC. < 1365879073 66008 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :c99 is better than that other standard < 1365879077 52516 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i married c99 < 1365879078 447098 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the IE6 of compilers) < 1365879150 105867 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Microsoft >:( < 1365879195 477855 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: geez I don't understand 90% of that but that's amazing < 1365879207 501150 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the exploit? i can go into it < 1365879222 945392 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, you can? um, I'd love to listen if you want to < 1365879226 653128 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also there's a walkthrough in my talk about kernel exploits: http://ugcs.net/~keegan/talks/kernel-exploit/talk.pdf < 1365879253 559919 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe look through that first, and i can answer questions < 1365879310 510846 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION dives in
< 1365879343 936345 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1365879348 726581 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: the only exploit on a stack-VLA is allocating more data than actually fits on the stack, right? < 1365879362 942498 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the main one anyway < 1365879364 635347 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh kmc so like before I touch this, someone had an interesting question in ##c-unregistered that was like. actually really interesting < 1365879364 868741 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone tell me an esolang that will take ~1-2 hours to implement < 1365879369 687143 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :because I am bored < 1365879370 694072 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that usually causes a segfault in userspace, but the kernel doesn't have that escape valve < 1365879383 549944 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're porting Jedi Academy to Linux from the open source code, and they were wondering what a particular code snippet did < 1365879389 237983 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ThatOtherPerson: hmm < 1365879394 596864 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and now I realize like. why so many programs are hard to port... < 1365879394 791771 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: btw I segfaulted gcc before < 1365879399 447390 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ThatOtherPerson: Eodermdrome < 1365879401 201448 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :With a VVLA < 1365879402 361644 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it had a NULL pointer check that looked like this: < 1365879405 387640 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: hahahaha :) < 1365879409 211470 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if((int)psString > 0) < 1365879418 500454 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: ouch < 1365879418 852792 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: well in Linux userspace anyway, the stack is usually an auto-growing mapping < 1365879434 803367 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :ThatOtherPerson: write a brainfuck interpreter in 60 different programming languages < 1365879438 704157 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: yes but it's possible to mmap something next to the stack guard page < 1365879441 678082 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then it can't grow any more < 1365879444 393496 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1365879449 79962 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then it will fault < 1365879450 757122 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and of course that code works wonderfully... < 1365879453 271612 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :... on windows 32-bit ... < 1365879456 48368 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: I don't even know 60 different programming languages :/ < 1365879459 141682 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :... without /LARGEADDRESSAWARE... -_- < 1365879468 213520 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: it works quite neatly on 64-bit, too < 1365879481 544714 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the addresses that map to negative as a signed int are all reserved by the kernel, IIRC < 1365879482 963592 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although, hmm < 1365879483 965910 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: :/ < 1365879485 317901 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's physical memory < 1365879486 811735 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bad code < 1365879495 939272 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd work if it was (intptr_t)ptr on 64-bit, I think? < 1365879496 133230 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: also, int may still be 32-bit < 1365879496 937170 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does the kernel potentially map stuff into virtual memory with negative addresses? < 1365879497 472841 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: on a lot of 64-bit architectures, int is smaller than void* < 1365879500 107339 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: oh right < 1365879500 999416 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :such as amd64 < 1365879519 874796 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but (int) might be too small < 1365879538 584914 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ThatOtherPerson: just looking through mine, Suffolk is unimplemented but shouldn't take too long to implement < 1365879541 877786 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do people even write that, why not if (psString) < 1365879542 244257 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Suffolk < 1365879545 703764 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also lol hungarian notation < 1365879549 201782 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it breaks on linux 32-bit because linux uses the bottom 3GB for userspace, right? < 1365879554 117229 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think < 1365879559 592003 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is going by the chart in your pdf <.<
< 1365879563 119298 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for people who love manifest types but hate typechecking < 1365879572 812669 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: it does (on i386 anyway) < 1365879573 668252 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :I once wrote a function that took a uint16_t[65536] when I was tired and not thinking < 1365879579 523688 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so yeah, your stack will typically have a 'negative' address < 1365879583 384488 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :since it's at the top of the userspace 3GB < 1365879600 202430 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also you can build a kernel with a different split, or even one where userspace and kernel have different page tables) < 1365879605 286111 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: thanks! < 1365879608 494880 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but 3GB / 1GB is the default and nearly universal afaik) < 1365879632 915588 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, i386 programs running on an x86_64 kernel get a full 4GB < 1365879650 622972 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that explains why the code broke then, I guess < 1365879651 449659 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, nowadays from the userspace point of view, things like the stack are in random locations < 1365879654 159671 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to make exploits harder to write < 1365879654 684491 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1365879693 297963 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, the thing that confuses me, is why compare a pointer to 0 for less than/greater than? < 1365879704 629297 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :on most processors, it's exactly as efficient as the correct code that checks for equality < 1365879748 429502 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea ._. < 1365879753 70885 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess on some microcontrollers I've worked on, testing to see if a number is negative is more efficient than testing to see if it's zero < 1365879755 827759 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1365879756 328664 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :people write bad code :/ < 1365879756 758199 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not testing to see if a number is positive < 1365879766 768226 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(testing for negative is testing a single bit, which is slightly easier than testing an entire byte) < 1365879779 437370 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's not merely stupid, it might be checking for something special - could e.g. HANDLEs have the upper bit set? < 1365879811 236425 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: special pointer-like values on Windows tend to be odd < 1365879816 382986 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also executable ASLR is almost useless on i386: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.devel/177905 < 1365879818 837905 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: don't most processors have a circuit that ands together every bit in the register to make zero-checking efficient < 1365879823 738249 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :only 8 bits of randomness < 1365879836 10819 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because all legit int pointers on Windows are even < 1365879838 685214 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if stack ASLR is more useful; probably, since the stack top doesn't have to be page aligned < 1365879843 280033 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least, that are used by the kernel < 1365879862 460677 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: they do, and so did this one; however, it cost more words of program to tell the microcontroller to actually use them < 1365879927 595111 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oic < 1365879966 4588 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: ohhhhhhhh that's how the null pointer exploit trick works. putting the payload at 0 with mmap < 1365879975 222381 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there some reason the OS... lets you do that? O_O < 1365879988 606867 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like why is mmap to 0 a thing < 1365879995 115628 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't anymore < 1365879996 193508 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the OS might've gotten confused and forgotten to prevent it < 1365880013 667871 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahhh < 1365880017 602440 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Linux added sysctl vm.mmap_min_addr in like 2007 < 1365880022 755447 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it still gets set to 0 sometimes < 1365880032 161934 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do null pointer exploits like that work now? < 1365880035 924786 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they don't < 1365880037 943045 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1365880052 643312 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but similar exploits that involve an invalid pointer that isn't NULL might work < 1365880053 110648 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I remember there was a thing a little bit ago about a null pointer check being optimized improperly because of a thig < 1365880055 969646 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that was an exploit? < 1365880095 707723 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: I think that was not that recent, and would only work if mmap_min_addr is set to 0 or if the kernel is vulnerable to any of numerous mmap_min_addr bypasses that have been discovered throughout the year < 1365880099 842346 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :years* < 1365880114 901375 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for a while if you installed Wine on Ubuntu, it would set mmap_min_addr = 0 globally < 1365880125 49928 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365880125 439930 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because, like, Win16 programs need to map stuff at zero? < 1365880127 230804 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also dosemu < 1365880135 420337 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wow >_< < 1365880149 467547 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://blog.cr0.org/2009/06/bypassing-linux-null-pointer.html < 1365880212 556655 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://lxr.linux.no/linux+v2.6.30/fs/binfmt_elf.c#L976 sigh < 1365880257 632123 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Linux developers value features like "can run SVr4 binaries on Linux" over security < 1365880262 501099 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if nobody ever does this ever < 1365880320 964384 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it "might" be a good idea to make sure that even if the user program maps something at 0 it doesn't affect the kernel < 1365880323 622851 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :guh, who uses system v binaries at all < 1365880343 111488 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: that's hard to do though < 1365880368 844398 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you want userspace and kernel to have different page tables, that improves security greatly, but also greatly increases the overhead of a system call < 1365880376 707254 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :on x86 anyway < 1365880386 301827 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because switching page tables involves a TLB flush < 1365880389 203112 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :something about @ < 1365880414 965860 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :some architectures have tagged TLBs that can hold onto entries from address spaces that are not currently in use < 1365880416 319436 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :could they use VM instructions to handle that? < 1365880424 700530 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, have you done any work on @ since you met me < 1365880424 931698 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: yes! I heard of someone doing that < 1365880432 48125 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't have a link though :/ < 1365880433 664628 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so like, userspace is a """VM""" < 1365880433 859937 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: maybe < 1365880437 394551 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have no idea < 1365880439 702861 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, i don't think he's ever done any work on @ < 1365880453 196568 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :at.html < 1365880457 261013 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gosh that's. that's actually a pretty cool idea < 1365880461 546660 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"sort of work on @" < 1365880461 815977 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you find it poke me with it, that sounds really fun < 1365880463 824275 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm ARM has tagged TLBs, that's good < 1365880514 257129 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think x86 also has tagged TLBs nowadays < 1365880538 120285 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has the ability to set 'global' mappings that don't get flushed automatically < 1365880549 874370 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know of anything beyond that, setting aside VMX / SVM virtualization extensions < 1365880596 753971 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Invalidates mappings in the translation lookaside buffers (TLBs) and paging-struc-ture caches based on the invalidation type specified in the first operand andprocessor context identifier (PCID) invalidate descriptor specified in the secondoperand." < 1365880604 945703 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is a processor context identifier related to this? < 1365880607 775836 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for that matter < 1365880612 465990 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is a processor context identifier -_- < 1365880618 308256 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i don't know < 1365880625 866497 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :what I was thinking of was the ASID that you can set when you set the pointer to the page tables < 1365880654 141968 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.realworldtech.com/westmere/ talks about it < 1365880662 548349 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it does sound like a tagged tlb basically < 1365880664 366932 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's cool! < 1365880670 700430 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if linux uses it < 1365880683 400390 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: have you used http://livegrep.com < 1365880709 859951 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oooh, so it's a tagged TLB thing but aimed at VMs < 1365880717 661061 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :INVPCID is a new instruction in um... I think haswell? I'm not sure < 1365880728 157092 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :livegrep...? what does it do < 1365880736 994222 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :searches the linux kernel, really fucking fast < 1365880740 399549 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :with regexes < 1365880764 413788 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haswell has a lot of interesting stuff like that it seems, like it has smep too < 1365880772 424078 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oooh. < 1365880773 750203 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what flavor of regex is this < 1365880778 134503 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :.... I don't know regexes though >_< < 1365880800 983796 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://livegrep.com/search/linux?q=%5B0-9a-fA-F%5D%7B8%7D-%5B0-9a-fA-F%5D%7B4%7D-%5B0-9a-fA-F%5D%7B4%7D-%5B0-9a-fA-F%5D%7B4%7D-%5B0-9a-fA-F%5D%7B12%7D < 1365880828 481039 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1365880904 200714 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice 'n' readable url < 1365880916 884476 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ye < 1365880917 685802 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :readaburl < 1365880934 870127 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I stopped reading at "linux", what did I miss < 1365880958 76626 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :saying anything of value maybe? < 1365880981 496706 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa!!!! rude < 1365880986 948327 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1365880988 43261 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks mnoqy < 1365880990 987614 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or should i say < 1365880993 713700 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tahnks < 1365880998 1527 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.178.34 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha < 1365881004 732947 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.178.34 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> sort "thanks" < 1365881005 851388 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> sort "thanks" < 1365881007 48688 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "ahknst" < 1365881007 923343 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "ahknst" < 1365881008 456492 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :noodl..... < 1365881027 575373 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I were a haskell person we'd have been three to type that command! < 1365881036 539042 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow elliott < 1365881052 931482 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :welliott < 1365881054 536211 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> "thanks" ^. to sort < 1365881056 363062 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "ahknst" < 1365881060 568131 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how are you doing? very welliott < 1365881105 93883 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t to < 1365881106 787719 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Conjoined p, Gettable f) => (s -> a) -> p a (f a) -> p s (f s) < 1365881108 629853 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's going on? not melliott < 1365881287 931816 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony JOIN :#esoteric < 1365881310 728383 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ["thanks", "lens"] ^. to sort < 1365881312 750849 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : ["lens","thanks"] < 1365881317 932590 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ["thanks", "lens"] ^. traverse . to sort < 1365881319 962135 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "ahknstelns" < 1365881341 408769 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds like some ancient place that should be in ruins < 1365881434 317108 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (^.) < 1365881435 671548 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :s -> Getting a s t a b -> a < 1365881443 898664 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: that's a mean thing to say about a place! < 1365881526 666621 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :itt: getting a stab < 1365881576 790685 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: it's RE2 regexes < 1365881585 576572 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1365881616 40821 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you have no idea how tired i am of getting a stab jokes < 1365881620 574649 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're as bad as burrito jokes in #haskell < 1365881623 751938 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1365881626 149157 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lolol < 1365881721 128237 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no monad. radio! < 1365881812 309277 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :++ < 1365881922 351110 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT : < 1365881948 99920 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1365882166 26178 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :++ < 1365882457 505808 :surma!uid6361@c-base/crew/surma QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1365882646 151829 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :q < 1365882744 325207 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: oh i get it < 1365882757 650833 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: mnoqy is a variant spelling of gnocchi < 1365882810 684297 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that the thing with the tomato and the toast < 1365882834 726449 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb I think that's a pizza < 1365882882 621153 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :gnocchi mnoqy gnocchi mnoqy < 1365882887 429663 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmm, gnocchi. mnoqy < 1365882896 651610 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bruschetta < 1365882961 1396 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gnostic monqy < 1365883087 204619 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bruschetta is good. never've had gnocchi woops. < 1365883107 363516 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :gnocchi is not the same things as bruschetta mnoqy................................ < 1365883118 712284 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: imo you can't keep this nick unless you have some gnocchi < 1365883128 537840 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that explains why i've had bruschetta but not gnocchi < 1365883145 66129 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :good explanation < 1365883148 192871 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or explains how? it explains something. < 1365883173 854123 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if we made shirts have irregular button spacing so that it was harder to miss-button them < 1365883179 889940 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but did you know the law that you're not allowed to mention bruschetta and gnocchi in the same sentence woops < 1365883198 424459 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's an ancient italian law, now you're not allowed to go to italy ever < 1365883236 81205 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1365883265 984900 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mgnoqcchiy < 1365883277 786756 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1365883289 261995 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey mnoqy you're the best < 1365883294 766968 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy++ mnoqy++ < 1365883296 551424 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks shachaf(???????????????????????) < 1365883319 673923 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no what's that thing inthe parentheses < 1365883329 421950 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :question marks < 1365883356 564525 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :w hy < 1365883410 777336 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :thachaf < 1365883410 972576 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont understand why you say the thing you're saying < 1365883540 78088 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :YEAH WHY DYOU EVEN BOTHER OPENING THAT MOUTH OF YOURS < 1365883561 618252 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow mnoqy did you mean that < 1365883568 60259 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's prttyr ude < 1365883627 285453 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did not mean the thing that koen said < 1365883633 12038 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pls do not put words in my mouth < 1365883650 979296 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh good < 1365883654 961566 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ciao < 1365883657 460458 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :!list < 1365883657 750305 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well note that I wouldn't be able to put words in your mouth IF YOU KEPT IT SHUT < 1365883666 376164 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_... stop it < 1365883678 345753 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my apologies won't happen again < 1365883680 158737 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: you're being pretty rude and making this channel worse for everyone < 1365883696 894050 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: your apologies haven't even happened once, it's not likely that they'll happen again at this rate < 1365883731 981773 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I'll add an extra coma and maybe even a pronoun < 1365883734 623799 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, is this a serious thing < 1365883757 444908 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pff who knows < 1365883759 173202 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we just don't know < 1365883776 70882 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hug Bike < 1365883776 661172 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://hackage.haskell.org/trac/ghc/newticket?type=bug < 1365883804 759481 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :buh? < 1365883862 314426 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ye < 1365883876 563415 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi kmc < 1365883878 383279 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome kmc < 1365883880 388858 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1365883976 529554 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I shouldn't be allowed to program on serious things at this time at night < 1365883977 839220 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or at all < 1365884025 62520 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, tired are rather we < 1365884083 446381 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never really understood why Europe and Asia are considered to be separate continents < 1365884121 627839 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :europe is more of a peninsula hth < 1365884136 211342 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure I could drive to Taneb's house from here, if I was crazy and wanted to drive forever. < 1365884147 657067 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ThatOtherPerson, I'm on an island < 1365884152 521626 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'd have to catch a train < 1365884155 524041 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ThatOtherPerson: How far is it? < 1365884160 127315 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :aw rats < 1365884175 269986 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounded surrealistic < 1365884183 984234 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could probs drive to mnoqy's house < 1365884206 643482 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: oh right, you're already in GB, which is an island, even if there's a tunnel to it < 1365884279 230462 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :but a drive from me to Taneb is somewhere around 6,629 km; 69 hours according to google maps < 1365884305 263397 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://goo.gl/maps/p0gnf < 1365884329 595488 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :when i was in Latvia there were signs for buses to London < 1365884332 233229 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're pretty slow. < 1365884371 645892 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ThatOtherPerson, to drive to Finland you have to choose whether you'd rather drive through Russia or Denmark < 1365884433 77463 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could drive to South Africa from here too... < 1365884445 62848 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ThatOtherPerson, important question < 1365884445 761888 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: like through the chunnel or what < 1365884447 445840 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you drive < 1365884450 262732 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yikes, the Americas are kinda lonely and off in a corner, aren't they < 1365884452 104424 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: and/or boats < 1365884470 349867 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: no but that's not really a prerequisite for driving in Saudi Arabia < 1365884487 438679 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ThatOtherPerson: half the world is a pretty big corner as corners go imo < 1365884496 828400 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah :D < 1365884518 678723 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.178.34 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf stole my gnocchi joke... but i didn't make it in #esoteric wow < 1365884521 638683 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course you can't actually drive from north to south america < 1365884528 818848 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think some of them take a boat across to sweeden < 1365884532 843495 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's more like two corners < 1365884535 279514 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: oh no did you make it about mnoqy < 1365884540 364909 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There' < 1365884541 224058 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.178.34 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1365884545 42433 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl, what's your gnocci joke < 1365884545 306916 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: was it in ##crawl < 1365884551 253017 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s like a 15 mile gap in the Trans-American Highway, right? < 1365884555 285823 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :It takes me about 24 hours to get to my grandparents' house in California from my house here < 1365884557 85352 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, in panama < 1365884567 731942 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.178.34 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my gnocchi joke is: mnoqy, gnocchi, < 1365884575 729278 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like ecolines runs southwest to warszawa and then west through berlin and amsterdam at crosses at calais (but maybe not on the train) < 1365884576 855504 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the jungle part specifically < 1365884577 52790 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ThatOtherPerson, it's gonna turn out your grandparents are shachaf, isn't it < 1365884587 402917 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.178.34 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was in a ~secret channel~ < 1365884600 488617 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: wow, a secret???? < 1365884601 85631 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course driving from northern colombia down to the tierra del fuego must be, uh, exciting < 1365884601 785042 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Americas used to be connected, but some goofsters decided to cut them apart < 1365884604 120493 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not to mention the amazon < 1365884619 824685 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a man, a plan, a canal, shachaf < 1365884629 268570 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: was it in a ~secret channel~ that you and mnoqy are both in < 1365884638 33290 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: 99 mile, apparently! < 1365884651 870150 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: what was that channel called < 1365884668 307619 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow wait the highway doesn't even hit brazil, let alone paraguay and such < 1365884669 751805 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bullcrap < 1365884676 400832 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.178.34 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it wouldn't be very ~secret~ if i told < 1365884690 937062 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :DR Congo is huge < 1365884708 718993 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :unofficially the trans-american highway does extend to tierra del fuego i thought < 1365884711 404278 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you can probably get to most of Brazil from Buenos Aires though. < 1365884713 876423 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, there are roads that connect through < 1365884714 71191 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: that's ok "i don't mind" < 1365884722 370231 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Yeah, but it would be kind of a pain, I mean. < 1365884728 189930 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also north to deadhorse or whatever < 1365884731 85323 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a whole lot of mountains and stuff. < 1365884733 89279 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whitehorse? < 1365884733 744014 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not through the darién gap :) < 1365884742 971160 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh, wherever the alaska highway ends < 1365884744 891336 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.178.34 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: if shachaf asks you about secret channels forever now i'm sorry < 1365884748 986426 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, no, there's a place called Deadhorse, wow < 1365884758 385402 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was thinking the capital of the northwest territories ._. < 1365884772 182955 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Deadhorse_Alaska_aerial_view.jpg the name seems appropriate. < 1365884781 860716 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me take you down, 'cause i'm going to / secret channels < 1365884787 267374 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, Yellowknife? < 1365884805 903502 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whitehorse is in the Yukon < 1365884806 833985 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :agh whitehorse is capital of the /yukon/ < 1365884809 650006 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :canadians. fuckers < 1365884814 840114 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, not the alaska highway, the dalton highway < 1365884818 115427 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yukon say that again!!!!!!!!!!!! < 1365884820 565992 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which has street view :) < 1365884823 228148 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ho ho ho < 1365884863 89955 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: so tell me about secret channels forever < 1365884909 606347 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/12/PanAmericanHwy.png < 1365884912 69427 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: probably it'd get old pretty quickly < 1365884941 602093 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: ok so just tell me < 1365884955 611886 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Des Moines doesn't merit a dot on this map :( < 1365884967 405593 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: "yeah, i'm takin' a vacation down in el salvador" "oh, going through denver or minneanapolis?" < 1365884972 394480 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1365884989 932371 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can tell people I grew up by the pan-amerigan highway < 1365884991 422590 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds so cool < 1365885036 30323 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pan-amereegan < 1365885045 704506 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh the transsiberian highway is fully connected < 1365885053 759760 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :way to drop theh ball americas < 1365885120 273732 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:%D0%A4%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%8F_%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%81%D1%81%D0%B0_%22%D0%91%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BA%D0%B0%D0%BB%22,_%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BE%D0%BD_%D0%A2%D0%B0%D0%B9%D1%88%D0%B5%D1%82%D0%B0.jpg very modern looking < 1365885133 638061 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :great url < 1365885157 946842 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1365885162 334106 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: what do you think about the ""transcontinental railroad"" < 1365885167 89550 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :great url. < 1365885175 476931 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo that url is missing a crucial letter just saying < 1365885183 107609 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: in US? don't know where it is < 1365885186 981766 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably p. in favor tho < 1365885221 852332 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Transcontinental_Railroad that's a long intro section........ < 1365885222 317697 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not around anymore, is it? < 1365885230 315597 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Transcontinental_Railroad < 1365885233 639828 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :9289 km. that's p. long < 1365885239 28342 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know, isn't some of the right of way still in use? < 1365885248 956631 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"hundreds of miles are still in service today, especially through the Sierra Nevada Mountains and canyons in Utah and Wyoming. While the original rail has long since been replaced because of age and wear, and the roadbed upgraded and repaired, the lines generally run on top of the original, handmade grade." < 1365885254 671353 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that intro is way too long < 1365885510 611865 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm do they still have rail barons today < 1365885515 755614 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc should be a rail baron imo < 1365885531 890166 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they don't have < 1365885553 251088 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should move to central asia and become a pipeline baron < 1365885581 408975 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: they're talking about you oerjan < 1365885586 426485 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :13:39 applicative, ski: equivalent doesn't mean equally useful. Twan's version keeps the 'next' 'f' in the free applicative that you need for interpretation exposed without recursion. Oerjan's requires you to walk uselessly over n levels to get to it. < 1365885590 584175 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :etc. < 1365885625 959555 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: do it < 1365885715 683658 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: we already have like thousands of oil princes over here < 1365885734 911750 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're literal princes though. it's just not the same < 1365885743 68384 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :There might not be an opening for an pipeline baron < 1365885744 296333 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that like #haskell and all the "project oiler" people < 1365885765 815224 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also is saudi arabia considered part of central asia now because i thought it was pretty far west < 1365885771 887925 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ThatOtherPerson, barons are pretty low on the nobility thingy < 1365885784 327818 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So they can be subordinate to oil princes < 1365885792 532033 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, it's nowhere near central asia < 1365885796 468340 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :god geopolitics terms make no fucking sense < 1365885808 620435 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, there's a totally different nobility thingy here < 1365885811 616878 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the "middle east" is west/south of "central asia" < 1365885814 815517 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's fine because geopolitics also makes no fucking sense < 1365885818 190997 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's all very tribal < 1365885820 95299 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fair enough < 1365885849 644022 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like that the premier theory of international relations is based on the suspposition that it's all anarchic nonsense < 1365885865 628122 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which theory is that? < 1365885871 628202 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :realism < 1365885890 115102 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :'anarchy' being the really used term, 'nonsense' not so much but i was Humorously Exaggerating < 1365885943 888962 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike we have a No Humor policy here < 1365885959 668108 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchy_in_international_relations < 1365885962 812861 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: How does Cygwin fork(), anyway? < 1365885966 453440 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :poorly? < 1365885968 440224 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know :( < 1365885982 371110 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, other than that. < 1365885989 160835 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It can't be that poor because it seems to work. < 1365885990 964256 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :magic < 1365886000 940318 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But Win32 doesn't give you anything like that, does it? < 1365886021 470413 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Win32 is extremely confusing and should not be touched, iirc < 1365886039 780792 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cygwin is like a dancing bear < 1365886064 118454 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: http://cygwin.com/faq/faq.api.html#faq.api.fork < 1365886085 579907 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :O_o < 1365886129 71533 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: basically, it goes through a lot of effort, calling a whole bunch of windows API functions, and somehow manages to replicate UNIX fork functionality < 1365886131 702116 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1365886144 101639 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun < 1365886146 266924 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it just cheats < 1365886160 201843 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo cygwin more like badideawin < 1365886166 660398 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :cyg.win++ < 1365886176 3810 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if JOS can implement copy-on-write fork in userspace then why not cygwin :( :( < 1365886447 839011 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-141-69.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1365886633 531843 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.112 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1365886785 277019 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: hm so (re #mosh) it might rely on the fact that every DLL is mapped at the same address in every process < 1365886796 413288 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which I think is mostly true in Windows? < 1365887071 262252 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it was a different address in every process but the same address between runs of the same process or something like that. < 1365887092 849041 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah maybe http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Position-independent_code#Windows_DLLs < 1365887121 297396 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :At any rate I heard that ASLR is done once per boot or something like that. < 1365887130 552312 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1365887140 207631 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :DLLs are not position-independent code; they get relocated on load < 1365887157 887576 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, maybe I'm wrong on the first part. < 1365887166 860258 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK. < 1365887234 516587 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-41-137.public.wayport.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365887278 66813 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(back later) < 1365887489 882276 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1365887698 689024 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1365887990 598733 :ogrom!~del@143.122.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee QUIT :Quit: Left < 1365888229 72812 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1365888300 986091 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats shachaf -----###
< 1365888301 507926 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1365888304 71623 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :I KNOW THAT < 1365888308 126239 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh message < 1365888315 495681 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1365888316 127993 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523 said 2h 40m 53s ago: good catch, I indeed missed it < 1365888362 762163 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: in fact i really knew it before that recent blog summary post about different versions. < 1365888446 932866 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but somehow i got caught up by the immediate praise anyhow. < 1365888525 579023 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I wasn't saying you don't know it, I was saying #haskell was talking about you. < 1365888566 589422 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1365888634 170368 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo unswat me < 1365888648 855373 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, second law of thermodynamics < 1365888689 149536 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :every swat has an equal and opposite unswat? < 1365888696 82468 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can remind me next time you do something bad, and we'll leave one out, ok? < 1365888708 778392 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about I do something bad now? < 1365888719 266037 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: you are confusing with newton's laws < 1365888733 398860 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: well if you _want_ to use it up already... < 1365888758 870931 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : `run for f in wisdom/*; do sed -i s/dal/dahl/g "$f"; done < 1365888798 35930 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :how _does_ one refrain from swatting with an extra space prepended again. < 1365888814 225639 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1365888910 118216 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION refuses to believe shachaf is that absent-minded.
< 1365888925 709806 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The space was on purpose, of course. < 1365888932 403522 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just am not managing to parse your sentence. < 1365888938 384598 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1365889007 6481 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(how does one refraing (from (swatting (with ((an extra space) prepended)))) again. < 1365889014 668419 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*). < 1365889021 111871 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*refrain < 1365889053 357566 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually < 1365889056 771066 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't get it. < 1365889058 399994 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-( < 1365889059 556254 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :｀run for f in wisdom/*; do sed -i s/dal/dahl/g "$f"; done < 1365889070 260305 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365889074 227515 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(how does one refraing (from swatting) (with ((an extra space) prepended))) again). also works. < 1365889078 90830 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*refrain < 1365889128 274605 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's really bad that you don't get it. i may have to refrain from swatting you for it. < 1365889194 840410 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oerjan < 1365889196 535939 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your evil overlord oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also a lying Norwegian. < 1365889266 650650 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's/$/ And hates Roald Dahl./' wisdom/oerjan < 1365889269 976545 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1365889296 533570 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-41-137.public.wayport.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1365889299 645738 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365889317 656195 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : WEST and EEST <-- eesti vabarik < 1365889351 423430 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: hey i'm supposed to be the one lying here < 1365889405 178720 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's/\. And/ who/' wisdom/oerjan < 1365889408 793329 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1365889426 69850 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-41-137.public.wayport.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365889452 745353 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oerjan < 1365889454 480141 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your evil overlord oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also a lying Norwegian who hates Roald Dahl. < 1365889487 350566 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am thinking of some programming language similar to Lisp using () and so on, as well as {} for quotationed blocks and [] for an alternate syntax and so on, but the program includes the commands to change the program to become the answer, and then it is further compiled into an assembly language, which might also have its own macros, too. < 1365889488 391924 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION invites a giant (not BFG) to shachaf's home
< 1365889523 621537 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is your home big enough for any giant? < 1365889534 420083 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: That sounds good. < 1365889546 42268 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: the giant doesn't need to enter < 1365889583 755346 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: O, OK. If you just need to throw stuff in the chimney then it is OK < 1365889600 789208 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: No, the giant reaches in the window and takes you out and eats you. < 1365889608 461116 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: i think you may not be familiar with the roald dahl type of giant. < 1365889619 514339 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: In Hebrew the BFG was called the Ig. < 1365889646 598442 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :SVK in norwegian. < 1365889647 819766 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: O, well, then their hand has to fit in the window, and it has to be open unless you want the window also broken... < 1365889677 678500 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think they care. < 1365889722 288205 :GOMADWarrior!~Regis@189.34.44.144 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If reality is a simulation, are we players or NPCs < 1365889722 520112 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, also if you don't care if it is broken or not. < 1365889739 449583 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: well they're pretty big on not leaving conclusive evidence... < 1365889740 783725 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :GOMADWarrior: That is the question. Nobody knows. < 1365889764 862201 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :GOMADWarrior: some of each. < 1365889766 437166 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well they're pretty big on everything < 1365889769 4676 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: they're giants < 1365889772 615131 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hth < 1365889802 266928 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: which thatsthejoke link do you prefer hth < 1365889858 738874 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what if the joke is that i was explaining the joke < 1365889957 898112 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: then i link http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DontExplainTheJoke and who wants that? < 1365889982 917376 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :um explaining the joke is a time honoured tradition < 1365890015 536252 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1365890123 505847 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365890562 67326 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : and fix the irc rfc to allow more chars <-- um HackEgo cuts off _far_ shorter than irc demands iirc < 1365890638 795146 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run yes | nl < 1365890640 274364 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ 1 y \ 2 y \ 3 y \ 4 y \ 5 y \ 6 y \ 7 y \ 8 y \ 9 y \ 10 y \ 11 y \ 12 y \ 13 y \ 14 y \ 15 y \ 16 y \ 17 y \ 18 y \ 19 y \ 20 y \ 21 y \ 22 y \ 23 y \ 24 y \ 25 y \ 26 y \ 27 y \ 28 y \ 29 y \ 30 y \ 31 y \ 32 < 1365890643 515663 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1365890656 172951 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :who the heck wants tabs < 1365890712 310721 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ghc -e 'cycle ['0'..'9']' < 1365890719 992408 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,0,1,2, < 1365890737 989076 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1365890757 795064 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is not how you print String, HackEgo < 1365890778 193201 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> cycle ['0'..'9'] < 1365890779 857618 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "01234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123... < 1365890788 196831 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how mysterious.. < 1365890794 738476 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.178.34 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just a ' issue < 1365890804 601904 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.178.34 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ghc -e "cycle ['0'..'9']" < 1365890804 795489 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ghc -e "cycle ['0'..'9']" < 1365890809 498387 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​"0123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345 < 1365890809 692832 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​"0123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345 < 1365890839 237126 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 5*80+20+5 < 1365890841 98832 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 425 < 1365890844 889320 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1365890853 951938 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait it's 4 not 5 < 1365890859 647018 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 4*80+20+5 < 1365890861 172736 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh my god, operator precedence < 1365890861 936861 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 345 < 1365890881 976939 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.178.34 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> length "\"0123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345" < 1365890884 642564 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 347 < 1365890886 925792 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: um problem? < 1365890953 5102 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i hope you're not referring to anything done above < 1365890971 769743 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hope is a good thing to have < 1365891035 305612 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run file `which yes` < 1365891036 996366 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/usr/bin/yes: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.18, stripped < 1365891060 392504 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :optimized < 1365891085 299201 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls -l /usr/bin/yes < 1365891087 217299 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-rwxr-xr-x 1 0 0 27456 Apr 28 2010 /usr/bin/yes < 1365891095 564661 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :16:03:09: Is putting large chunks of butter on my bagels a bad idea? < 1365891095 759232 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :16:03:53: Define "large" < 1365891095 759421 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :16:04:04: THEY CRUSH THE BAGEL < 1365891108 421571 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't use butter straight out of the fridge hth < 1365891113 435701 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a 408 byte yes but I didn't really spend any time making it small, other than writing it with no libc etc. < 1365891138 178152 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i think i am now legitimately scared by gangnam style < 1365891148 858673 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Taneb THEY CRUSH THE BAGEL <-- don't use butter straight out of the fridge hth < 1365891149 320127 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1365891174 176704 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The butter is in a tub of butter that people take out with a knife < 1365891182 330287 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alongside cream cheese and other stuff < 1365891190 57231 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :some kind of communal butter tu--- EEEW < 1365891195 945762 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the FUCK sgeo < 1365891242 548091 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um. People don't start eating the bagels before they use it < 1365891261 472077 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :tu-++ < 1365891265 760527 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :_polite_ people. < 1365891271 63416 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would you keep your cheese and butter in the same tub do you not have two tubs what is wrong with you < 1365891285 716166 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't want to think about what impolite people do. < 1365891322 523246 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are separate tubs that are next to each other. < 1365891329 511922 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1365891377 133708 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Butter is free, cream cheese is not. I think cashier thinks I'm trying to cheat... she keeps asking if it's cream cheese and I say butter < 1365891409 33907 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds tense < 1365891410 641041 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i scream you scream cheese < 1365891877 833852 :dysoco!~dysoco@unaffiliated/dysoco JOIN :#esoteric < 1365892180 308611 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo -e '\x7fELF\x02\x01\x01\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\x02\0>\0\x01\0\0\0x\0@\0\0\0\0\0@\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\xb0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0@\08\0\x01\0@\0\x03\0\x02\0\x01\0\0\0\x05\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0@\0\0\0\0\0\0\0@\0\0\0\0\0\x9a\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\x9a\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0 \0\0\0\0\0H\xc7\xc7\x01\0\0\0H\xc7\xc6\x98\0@\0H\xc7\xc2\x02\0\0\0H\xc7\xc0\x01\0\0\0\x0f\x05\xeb\xf5y' > bin/y && chmod +x bin/y < 1365892183 767379 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1365892191 490447 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`y < 1365892193 130371 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y < 1365892270 272209 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :inb4 kmc "too many badchars" < 1365892284 520017 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b67c5.pool.mediaWays.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1365892303 52023 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a muppetlabs program < 1365892314 270557 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :gcc < 1365892330 580310 :DH____!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365892334 727920 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-41-137.public.wayport.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1365892341 118025 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1365892619 44036 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also why are amd64 instructions so long < 1365892646 268695 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :They added way too many registers < 1365892977 696263 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :in this case they're long because someone failed to use shorter equivalent instructions < 1365893024 586633 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls -l y < 1365893026 266111 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access y: No such file or directory < 1365893027 423509 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1365893033 320203 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls -l bin/y < 1365893034 957463 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-rwxr-xr-x 1 5000 0 154 Apr 13 22:29 bin/y < 1365893036 553350 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet++ < 1365893057 598015 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`y hello < 1365893058 830654 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y < 1365893061 293997 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-( < 1365893066 407073 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That doesn't count. < 1365893214 764469 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fine < 1365893311 749124 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm Olivia Colman was in Look Around You as well < 1365893317 113023 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are only like 12 british actors aren't there < 1365893550 564227 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well there are serious ones as well but they mostly just do soaps < 1365893595 947984 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also there are act�rs but they just perform on stage and hollywood films < 1365893717 665308 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least one British actor I know of did stuff in a TV show after doing stuff in a Hollywood film < 1365893738 469436 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, he's Scottish < 1365893753 853767 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeo < 1365893758 65951 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :great british venn diagram < 1365893814 111847 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, so he is British. < 1365893836 199586 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.178.34 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i keep forgetting the venn diagram < 1365893896 784571 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.178.34 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: let me guess. david tennant < 1365893904 654130 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1365893912 748185 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin\y < 1365893913 954728 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: bin\y: No such file or directory < 1365893923 346228 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.178.34 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the only scottish actor" < 1365893929 618424 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey now < 1365893933 786582 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about robbie coltrane < 1365893962 45161 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :even Phantom_Hoover doesn't include sean connery, i see < 1365893971 883199 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1365893981 252086 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well where does he live these days < 1365893994 235855 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good question < 1365894067 637255 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Sean Connery has a villa in Kranidi, Greece. His neighbour is the Dutch crown-prince with whom he shares a helicopter platform." < 1365894099 525058 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a real sense of community in illionaire villas < 1365894108 16478 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Connery swore never to return to live in Scotland unless it becomes an independent state,." < 1365894128 96900 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i thought he was in tax exile < 1365894141 9389 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's something about that too < 1365894194 731851 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlEFfyf79DM < 1365894207 537556 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Harry Potter book 4 spoilers) < 1365894207 731413 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps he simply assumed scotland would never become independent < 1365894213 432502 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see the great british venn diagram's accompanying article doesn't mention that 'scotch' is The Wrong Demonym < 1365894227 842363 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: is that the one where dumbledore dies? < 1365894266 166102 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: he supports the scottish national party. although he's no longer allowed to give them money because they passed a law against foreign contributions. < 1365894343 805691 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, hey, it's david tennant. < 1365894527 604420 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there should also be a venn diagram for New York City, Manhattan (borough), Manhattan (island), Long Island, Brooklyn, Queens, etc < 1365894600 754639 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the difference between those seems pretty unimportant < 1365894616 510490 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :MAYBE SCOTLAND IS ALSO UNIMPORTANT < 1365894631 939080 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :"maybe" < 1365894652 755265 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's confusing when people use "Long Island" to mean "the parts of Long Island that aren't in NYC" < 1365894674 124526 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, well was manhattan ever INVADED BY BROOKLYN AND REPRESSED < 1365894691 501718 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the differences between Manhattan the island and the political entity are more trivia than important < 1365894706 294692 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: insert joke about hipsters < 1365894787 413051 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also Ellis Island is split between new jersey and new york in some kind of complicated arrangement < 1365894824 793161 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: btw guess who said this (i saw it and thought of you) < 1365894828 761035 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :through a complicated legal loophole, coney island turns out to still be owned by the royal dutch < 1365894829 602361 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh oh < 1365894830 779275 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"One advantage startups have over established companies is that there are no discrimination laws about starting businesses. For example, I would be reluctant to start a startup with a woman who had small children, or was likely to have them soon. < 1365894834 766449 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you're not allowed to ask prospective employees if they plan to have kids soon. Believe it or not, under current US law, you're not even allowed to discriminate on the basis of intelligence. < 1365894838 801662 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whereas when you're starting a company, you can discriminate on any basis you want about who you start it with." < 1365894841 774047 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(note: this challenge is easy) < 1365894850 799563 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Some Asshole < 1365894852 311690 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :did i win < 1365894852 646568 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait who said this < 1365894854 208507 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: paul graham < 1365894854 843683 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :believe it or not, < 1365894858 163668 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :really? < 1365894859 322175 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1365894859 516213 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1365894861 961468 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sigh < 1365894862 156484 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.paulgraham.com/start.html < 1365894866 313784 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well now < 1365894867 612638 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my first guess was esr (fuck that guy) < 1365894867 981942 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't think he was quite like that < 1365894872 462513 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my guess was peter thiel < 1365894878 476950 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :peace be upon fuck that guy < 1365894880 258867 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure esr is quite a "startup guy" < 1365894896 484149 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't say it was a good guess! also fuck that guy < 1365894900 149362 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not clear without context that pg is saying this is a good thing, but he probably is < 1365894909 745912 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :people talked about paul graham in #lisp again today. i'm so glad i have the ability to zone out < 1365894916 964264 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it is a footnote to < 1365894917 711773 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like most startups, ours began with a group of friends, and it was through personal contacts that we got most of the people we hired. This is a crucial difference between startups and big companies. Being friends with someone for even a couple days will tell you more than companies could ever learn in interviews. [2] < 1365894929 918287 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1365894931 11480 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the whole article is about startups being great obviously < 1365894943 659718 :dysoco!~dysoco@unaffiliated/dysoco QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1365894945 957716 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a p. cool way for a bunch of college educated white guys to hire a bunch of other white guys who went to the same college < 1365894979 330901 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm gonna go see what he thinks of affirmative action, wish me luck < 1365895015 815264 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also "you're not even allowed to discriminate on the basis of intelligence" is a big fucking [citation needed] < 1365895036 589849 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, no mention of "affirmative" or "action", thank god < 1365895041 982835 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would believe that discriminating against certain kinds of cognitive disabilities could get you in trouble < 1365895042 786407 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :please tell me he's not conflating 'intelligence' with IQ < 1365895045 5991 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1365895077 658894 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever he means it's dumb, so < 1365895091 369564 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had a mutual friend with the guy who hired me. It makes me feel awkward that that sort of thing is important < 1365895092 201156 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :« "Did Discrimination Enhance Intelligence of Jews?". National Geographic News.» why did i google this < 1365895110 78460 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why indeed < 1365895115 986141 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it makes you feel better that's pretty universal, sgeo < 1365895130 120285 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: hard to equate "intelligence" with anything meaningful < 1365895134 172276 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(was that written by PG) < 1365895141 147716 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm pretty sure it doesn't actually mean anything < 1365895164 56396 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :human universals are pretty lol in general but "people like people people like" and "people are more likely to want to perform activities with someone they like" probably are < 1365895173 367424 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well < 1365895178 891977 :carado!~carado@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:221:63ff:fe9a:3747 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365895181 758974 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION feels remaining respect for Paul Graham vanish
< 1365895194 364271 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what has he ever even done < 1365895203 869319 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: says mr startup < 1365895206 25444 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh excuse you phantom he wrote a /webstore/ < 1365895208 733028 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in lisp!! < 1365895224 305462 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like how he is sort of a lisp pariah < 1365895229 61922 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because nobody likes his book < 1365895237 248390 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :noobs do < 1365895247 564743 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :he wrote a book? what is it about? < 1365895248 237640 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunately < 1365895256 945300 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lisp presumably < 1365895262 671580 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: actually i left my startup job just last week < 1365895264 216435 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he wrote ANSI Common Lisp which is a pretty... something, intro to programming in CL < 1365895280 448302 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :he wrote On Lisp < 1365895289 759808 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is your brain on Lisp < 1365895291 748505 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever it's called < 1365895293 9700 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is kind of insane < 1365895294 964501 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do all the big CL authors do things that the community recommends against < 1365895306 374151 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they do? < 1365895308 533003 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :he uses macros for /everything/ < 1365895314 108934 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :want to map a function over a list? WHY NOT A MACRO? < 1365895319 65748 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lambda Over Lisp hates earmuffs, there are some quabbles about PG's stuff in On Lisp (not sure what) < 1365895320 704934 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly due to the tendency to have Big Authors < 1365895321 109540 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically. < 1365895323 912669 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: aw, that sucks < 1365895328 591354 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: unless you left it because you found a better job < 1365895330 390271 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: the lisp community might just be crazy and not make good recommendations < 1365895331 59917 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm, Let over Lambda < 1365895331 810004 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in which congratulations < 1365895343 851578 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :earmuffs are a good recommendation, I think. < 1365895348 255416 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist < 1365895349 864049 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1365895358 532614 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: http://www.cs.northwestern.edu/academics/courses/325/readings/graham/graham-notes.html if you want to see it in mind numbing detail < 1365895399 791243 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i don't think xach or gigamonkeys write particularly insane code, i dunno < 1365895434 75514 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION only had PG and LoL in mind
< 1365895461 254890 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't read lol. reading is for squares < 1365895464 698733 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: not yet < 1365895470 502864 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I wasn't particularly enjoying my old job < 1365895494 122562 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you telling me rewriting irc as a web app isn't exciting < 1365895498 79052 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we never would have guessed < 1365895498 612797 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i shouldn't be a jerk about this < 1365895498 807160 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there were a few things that were really annoying (like, one of my coworkers) and the rest of it was fine, but nothing super awesome to keep me going through the annoyances < 1365895499 924409 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b70ff.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365895502 1217 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1365895532 963002 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i sure hate $kmcs_coworker, they are the worst < 1365895549 145561 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if given the opportunity to work with someone you know is annoying because they might have changed: they haven't and you shouldn't < 1365895589 779203 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sucks because i really liked the rest of the people < 1365895595 526061 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was the main reason I was interested in working there < 1365895600 80944 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :o well < 1365895601 214286 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was the problem with this person? < 1365895604 953300 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just general annoyingness? < 1365895626 748768 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: they were a bicycle < 1365895671 391827 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh are you implying something < 1365895675 442049 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :something... bikist < 1365895686 290348 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, sounds like the annoying one should've been the one to leave rather than you < 1365895699 322150 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's their problem now :) < 1365895734 970821 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1365895740 401216 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shrug < 1365895768 654504 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's the annoying one but i'm the one who had trouble dealing with it, while he remained cheerful and productive through being annoying < 1365895854 728420 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: come join me :D < 1365895857 90850 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: if you have an association with the word "froshy" then it probably describes this person < 1365895885 366955 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone who thinks they're hot shit because they were the smartest person around in high school, and who dropped out after one year of college at a mediocre school < 1365895896 244250 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_< < 1365895897 408065 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yet actually doesn't produce very good code < 1365895990 172076 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and communicates poorly < 1365895991 119281 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well < 1365896117 351462 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : « "Did Discrimination Enhance Intelligence of Jews?". National Geographic News.» why did i google this <-- i've heard that theory before and it actually seemed plausible. < 1365896142 544188 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.amazon.com/review/RN9XMF3CS1YPS nice < 1365896154 109452 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it sounds very evopsychy < 1365896156 136438 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it certainly had a huge effect on cultural values, if not biology < 1365896190 425580 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, not hard to come up with a theory that seems plausible < 1365896260 930102 :carado!~carado@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:221:63ff:fe9a:3747 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1365896522 472230 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: well racism and eugenics aside (am i being stereotypical?) you wouldn't expect psychology to be _unaffected_ by evolution caused by selection. < 1365896591 351222 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course not, but evolutionary psychology has a long history of being made-up racist shit, so i'm strongly inclined to dismiss it, unfortunately < 1365896593 514312 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i guess there's still that nature/nurture questino. < 1365896599 436834 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*on < 1365896833 665759 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, that's all true but that doesn't mean 'property x is caused by evolutionary factor y' is actually /correct/ < 1365896853 352389 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, presumably some evo psych theories are actually correct, but it's just way too easy to come up with one to justify whatever crazy bullshit you like < 1365896856 980149 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and way too hard to test them < 1365896883 869459 :itsy!~john_metc@87.115.210.249 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1365896899 590640 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the classic example is the assignent of pink to females; you can say it's because berries are red and hunter gatherers and all that, and it sounds plausible < 1365896913 852292 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :except a century or so ago pink was a masculine colour and so it all goes to shit < 1365896931 960250 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1365896953 410566 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh if we're hating on evopsych now i want to mention http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satoshi_Kanazawa < 1365896964 976264 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you know you can actually be fired from psychology today? weird huh < 1365896967 774538 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: actually the "pink was a masculine colour" is itself a myth hth < 1365896974 833460 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Kanazawa has been very controversial, which he attributes to what he considers political correctness." < 1365896977 90301 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO BELIEVE < 1365896982 531511 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, IT'S MYTHS ALL THE WAY DOWN < 1365896995 687294 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :guys why the lucky stiff updated his site again!!!!!! < 1365896996 953673 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOTHING IS TRUE < 1365897000 39858 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :EVERYTHING IS PERMITTED < 1365897002 177112 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.gironda.org/pcl/SOLICIT.png < 1365897002 415035 :Bike!~Glossina@71-34-74-150.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cite [5] there by other evolutionary psychologists (i.e. ones that aren't racists) is pretty great and worth a read < 1365897010 928190 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^^ very excellent < 1365897017 242320 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also he's into ocaml now??? http://www.scribd.com/doc/135658986/-why-Homework < 1365897019 329075 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHY HATH RISEN ALL WILL BE UNMADE < 1365897024 320656 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(am i violating that list linked in the logs every time i say "actually"?) < 1365897024 592160 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :MORE: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5541880 < 1365897030 106913 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what is this < 1365897039 992541 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: why the lucky stiff's website came back up a few months < 1365897042 303541 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :as a public printer spool < 1365897046 28190 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://whytheluckystiff.net/ < 1365897053 107450 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1365897056 328899 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its contents have been changing since < 1365897059 791366 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well they stopped < 1365897060 543413 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :for months < 1365897064 480759 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they changed a bit to start with < 1365897074 215987 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(last picture before these: http://www.scribd.com/doc/135635255/desolee) < 1365897149 450 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo -e '\x7fELF\x02\x01\x01\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\x02\0>\0\x01\0\0\0x\0@\0\0\0\0\0@\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\xc8\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0@\08\0\x01\0@\0\x03\0\x02\0\x01\0\0\0\x05\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0@\0\0\0\0\0\0\0@\0\0\0\0\0\xb6\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\xb6\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0 \0\0\0\0\0H\xc7\xc7\x01\0\0\0H\x8bt$\x10H\x85\xf6u\x0dH\xc7\xc6\xb4\0@\0H\x8dW\x01\xeb\x17H\x89\xf2\xeb\x03H\xff\xc2\x8a\x0a\x84\xc9u\xf7\xc6\x02\x0aH\xff\xc2H)\xf2H\x89\xf8\x0f\x05\xeb\xf9y\x0a' > b < 1365897152 346761 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1365897163 692548 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run chmod +x bin/y && y yyy < 1365897165 408999 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y < 1365897174 989503 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hacked by Jafet < 1365897189 193033 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this channel was so much better when cpressey was in it < 1365897189 943968 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PART :#esoteric < 1365897192 950073 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :now nobody appreciates why!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! < 1365897193 143975 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1365897207 720974 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :4od doesn't have the armando ianucci shows ALL IS DARKNESS ALL IS DEATH < 1365897208 517190 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm < 1365897214 205381 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo 'const unsigned long main[] = { 0xc7e68948c7ffff31, 0x24310f00b195e206, 0xd231f88902460001, 0xe9eb050f03b2 };' > maze.c && gcc -nostdlib -o maze maze.c && ./maze < 1365897220 296090 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/usr/bin/ld: warning: cannot find entry symbol _start; defaulting to 000000000040010c \ bash: line 1: 292 Segmentation fault ./maze < 1365897221 76331 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: :( < 1365897226 174909 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mv bin/{y,yyy} && yyy < 1365897227 161480 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's 4od < 1365897229 830051 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y < 1365897237 828971 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's channel 4's on-demand thing < 1365897238 202857 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also Veep starts up again tomorrow < 1365897241 305893 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :This machine must have different stack layout < 1365897249 473062 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm bin/yyy < 1365897250 700707 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: what does your thing do? < 1365897252 575907 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1365897258 375675 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have a different one for every channel because of socialism i guess < 1365897260 919167 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :relevant cpressey on the github account the site is hosted on: https://github.com/cwales/cwales.github.com/issues/1 < 1365897261 410172 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would kill for hulu < 1365897263 157092 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`yes < 1365897264 303721 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y < 1365897266 198885 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo is User Mode Linux which is all crazy < 1365897281 499287 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: you don't need to kill you just need to get a VPS with an american IP address < 1365897292 925612 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe EC2 is good enough, you can get a free EC2 instance for a year < 1365897295 961903 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: your initial command got cut off at the b < 1365897299 944576 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can i get that by killing someone < 1365897305 356536 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably < 1365897316 516648 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mv b bin/y && chmod +x bin/y < 1365897318 785643 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're also all on youtube anyway < 1365897319 981442 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1365897323 758635 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :god bless you kmtkmy < 1365897323 953592 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1365897324 851392 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`y yyy < 1365897326 176035 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :yyy \ yyy \ yyy \ yyy \ yyy \ yyy \ yyy \ yyy \ yyy \ yyy \ yyy \ yyy \ yyy \ yyy \ yyy \ yyy \ yyy \ yyy \ yyy \ yyy \ yyy \ yyy \ yyy \ yyy \ yyy \ yyy \ yyy \ yyy \ yyy \ yyy \ yyy \ yyy \ yyy \ yyy \ yyy \ yyy \ yyy \ yyy \ yyy \ yyy \ yyy \ yyy \ yyy \ yyy \ yyy \ yyy \ yyy \ yyy \ yyy \ yyy \ yyy \ yyy \ yyy \ yyy \ yyy \ yyy \ yyy \ yyy \ yy < 1365897384 660591 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run which gccrun < 1365897386 86127 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1365897401 109932 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run curl -o bin/gccrun http://web.mit.edu/snippets/programming/gccrun && chmod +x bin/gccrun < 1365897405 967003 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1365897418 843300 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`gccrun printf("Hello, world!\n"); < 1365897420 118380 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/gccrun: line 1: syntax error near unexpected token `<' \ /hackenv/bin/gccrun: line 1: `