< 1368403204 282080 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-174-146.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not? if you have zero divisors you might as well have fun with it. < 1368403223 945064 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also: the number of m-by-n matrices with elements from a set with cardinality X is X^(m*n) < 1368403248 800194 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. 1 when m or n is zero < 1368403412 402831 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the coproduct's m+n as well, isn't it?) < 1368403441 590449 :sirdancealo2!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz QUIT :Quit: Ragequit < 1368403455 740107 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds reasonable. < 1368403462 16076 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since 1=0 < 1368403477 553997 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'll figure this out properly later. < 1368403495 815534 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so are initial and terminal objects meant to do interesting things around products < 1368403502 201740 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 as in the terminal object, not the natural number 1. < 1368403514 920057 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Well, the empty product is the terminal object. < 1368403559 264328 :Tritonio!~Tritonio@athedsl-18148.home.otenet.gr QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1368403576 727827 :Tritonio!~Tritonio@athedsl-18148.home.otenet.gr JOIN :#esoteric < 1368403697 104436 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1368403711 700194 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368403752 878821 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I think A*1=A? < 1368403780 18082 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1368403799 493297 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since in https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b2/CategoricalProduct-03.png , you get half the diagram trivially. < 1368403825 663110 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :having fun? < 1368403849 388567 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: I was doing something else and then Phantom_Hoover got me back into it! < 1368403859 535269 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :good! < 1368403859 814118 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bet he's your agent. Pumpkin_Hoover < 1368403865 249346 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin, it's m+n < 1368403871 355196 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now pay up < 1368403874 26177 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1368403888 265735 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :describe all the moarphizmz < 1368403930 863963 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, products or coproducts? < 1368403934 559248 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :both < 1368403948 637581 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :w00t < 1368404052 662364 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: you should come to bayhac to talk about these things hth < 1368404058 253042 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1368404059 594256 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :even conal will be there! < 1368404069 889444 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about conor though < 1368404077 663144 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess he'll be in hexham before long < 1368404090 864564 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :conor is "2 cool 4 bayhac" < 1368404093 360133 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1368404100 951620 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :what other structure does that category have?!?!? < 1368404121 666703 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohhhh no you're not fooling me there < 1368404124 323931 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bet the answer is lots! < 1368404130 733899 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know there are a billion structures in category theory < 1368404148 366940 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1368404346 257981 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monads < 1368404347 545426 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :All categories have a identity monad and a identity monad, and all categories with final objects have Finalize monad for each final objects, and Initialize comonad for each initial objects. < 1368404350 546727 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are monads in this category < 1368404374 718685 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are adjunctions in this category hth < 1368404382 608078 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I listed two of them already. < 1368404394 56054 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ffmpeg.mplayerhq.hu/doxygen/trunk/h264__qpel__mmx_8c-source.html C: best macro assembler ever? < 1368404413 693873 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: A identity monad *and* a identity monad? < 1368404430 983417 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I meant, a identity monad and a identity comonad. < 1368404436 565024 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-174-146.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: that's gross < 1368404437 438914 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The second monad I mentioned is the Finalize monad. < 1368404439 757164 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I think usually you say "an identity monad". < 1368404440 474344 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1368404490 677777 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So an endofunctor maps sizes to sizes and matrices to matrices and preserves composition and identity. < 1368404525 86679 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds exciting < 1368404534 855710 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does? < 1368404539 460693 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think functors are meant to be unexciting. < 1368404540 330000 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :absolutely < 1368404596 533677 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's a good endofunctor? < 1368404608 281364 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :k < 1368404671 185942 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_ < 1368404682 663976 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Seriously. If you want to be a part of the Bitcoin revolution it's time to put on your grown up pants and switch to Linux." < 1368404746 74230 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :theegan < 1368404764 152791 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-174-146.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :time to use your MANLY PANTS and switch to os/2 < 1368404791 677487 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh shit < 1368404797 561816 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess I'm not catching the bitcoin train :( < 1368404806 930366 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Windows is for shirt-cockers < 1368404831 264598 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-174-146.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what;s a shitcocker < 1368404835 29106 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-174-146.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shirt < 1368404837 128970 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what it sounds like < 1368404841 821690 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, gross < 1368404851 772135 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :MEANWHILE IN /R/BITCOIN: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1e75ju/12_yearolds_thoughts_on_buying_bitcoins/ < 1368404924 848586 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-174-146.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, nymphs have infinite carry capacity < 1368404938 744970 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-174-146.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm learning so many pointless things < 1368404964 296720 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-174-146.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: perfect macro < 1368404994 644306 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-174-146.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"this is magic... 4% fee though... well, whatever" hardened investor here. < 1368405016 441657 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: can you generalize a matrix to have real rather than natural dimensions................ < 1368405055 723939 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, as i said earlier, the set of x-by-y matrices over a field F is F^(x*y) < 1368405084 705689 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :have fun defining multiplication like that though < 1368405095 345406 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo someone else should have that fun hth < 1368405100 323075 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-174-146.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you should start with negatives. < 1368405110 364990 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1368405111 294058 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :RxR -> F < 1368405114 402142 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just integrals < 1368405125 278535 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-174-146.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess the main problem would be like, what kind of linear map is that? < 1368405133 549989 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean if you just do it over R < 1368405137 612291 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-174-146.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you need to operate on pi-dimensional space < 1368405144 975822 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let f,g : R^2 -> R < 1368405159 122864 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1368405190 376420 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let f : [0,a]x[0,b] -> R < 1368405204 612902 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let g : [0,b]x[0,c] -> R < 1368405323 848470 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :g*f(x,y) = \int_0^b f(x,z)g(z,y)dz < 1368405462 724494 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i googled "bitinstant" and found second hit "Do not use BITINSTANT : Bitcoin - Reddit" < 1368405704 707898 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1bzo49/do_not_use_bitinstant/c9bodk8 < 1368405707 271448 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't even < 1368405744 839761 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-174-146.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"a stack of -184549376 gold pieces" < 1368405793 272202 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-174-146.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :reddit is a good place for customer service < 1368405805 131513 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1dgq10/i_lost_all_my_bitcoins_with_satoshi_dice_mfw/ bitcoin promotes responsible financial habits in 12-year-olds < 1368405821 110541 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahahaha < 1368405826 414840 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he was even using the martingale < 1368405964 53814 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Martingale Strategy... great way for Bankrupt .... < 1368405967 830523 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :could not have put it better myself < 1368405985 304674 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the simulator i found it's possible of 13 lose in one short .. (For 50%) < 1368406006 928538 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :good simulator use < 1368406062 288729 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"losing 13 times in a row, i mean what are the chances" < 1368406087 649617 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :my simulator says 0% < 1368406130 835537 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should fix it not to use these 16-bit floats........ < 1368406155 775666 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-174-146.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like the guy who says to play a card game instead < 1368406191 266730 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: that feels oddly categorical! < 1368406202 323482 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: looks like an end or a coend or something < 1368406338 596772 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :coënd < 1368406385 432877 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :dïäërësïs < 1368406403 796152 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :dïäërrhëä < 1368406430 805979 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :diæresis < 1368406474 778239 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :ŒƜ < 1368406633 788161 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: well the suggestion is to play poker, right? < 1368406637 228958 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is a legit game of skill < 1368406651 644957 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :still pretty likely that a beginner will lose everything < 1368406675 775275 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even when playing poker, don't play cash games; that is a sure way to get ruined. Play tournament style poker games it is better. < 1368406700 47786 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically don't play games where it's you vs. the house < 1368406709 488242 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :play games where it's you vs. idiots and the house just takes a cut < 1368406730 148390 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you do when you're one of the idiots < 1368406739 303859 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :get smarter or stop playing < 1368406762 122380 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In a tournament game you cannot use more money than the entry fee, and everyone gets the same number of chips. < 1368406793 330512 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't the average player skill higher in tournaments? < 1368407050 365495 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It may be. < 1368407059 967096 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But different tournament cost different amount of money. < 1368407588 478074 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1368407862 622057 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fun fact: David Bowie has/had a presence in Worlds < 1368407883 874261 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, the 'hand garden' is in Bowieworld < 1368408226 804629 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-174-146.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: the post basically said "if you're going to lose your money at least have fun" yeah < 1368408248 979645 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1368408253 864355 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Yes, and don't spend more money than you should spend ordinarily for entertainment anyways. < 1368408263 389651 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you manage to win, that is a bonus. < 1368408362 792855 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: what are your favorite poker games, and have you invented any new ones? < 1368408392 432901 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't play poker much, but I know Texas Hold'em, and I have thought about new kinds too. < 1368408400 36917 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy mnoqy mnoqy, hi mnoqy < 1368408474 750180 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1368408517 741026 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1368409247 631087 :Tritonio_!~Tritonio@athedsl-18148.home.otenet.gr JOIN :#esoteric < 1368409253 768981 :Tritonio!~Tritonio@athedsl-18148.home.otenet.gr QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1368409405 672307 :Tritonio_!~Tritonio@athedsl-18148.home.otenet.gr QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1368409412 733576 :Tritonio_!~Tritonio@athedsl-18148.home.otenet.gr JOIN :#esoteric < 1368409423 392592 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-174-146.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1368409524 71342 :Bike!~Glossina@65-100-33-45.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1368409980 16274 :Bike!~Glossina@65-100-33-45.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1368410083 423848 :Bike!~Glossina@65-100-35-104.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1368411967 615299 :Vorpal_!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1368411996 389432 :augur!~augur@c-68-34-26-189.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1368412023 63612 :Bike!~Glossina@65-100-35-104.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1368412138 494999 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1368412389 45646 :augur!~augur@c-68-34-26-189.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1368412569 646427 :augur!~augur@c-68-34-26-189.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1368412660 288363 :augur_!~augur@c-68-34-26-189.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1368412663 433763 :Bike_!~Glossina@65-100-35-104.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1368412756 968453 :Bike_!~Glossina@65-100-35-104.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does the nethack turn by turn thing end at 823? :( < 1368412763 128710 :Tritonio__!~Tritonio@athedsl-18148.home.otenet.gr JOIN :#esoteric < 1368412777 97008 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: which new kinds? < 1368412791 112089 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hold 'em is very popular, I think it has a good balance between randomness, objective skill, and psychology < 1368412825 249026 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Yes, I know of such thing like that, I think it is, too. < 1368412844 941981 :Bike_!~Glossina@65-100-35-104.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1368412863 914311 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I was thinking of poker game with tarot cards, Pokemon cards, and ones that use standard cards but with trading as well, and with chess, etc < 1368412872 996594 :Bike!~Glossina@65-100-35-104.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eleusis seems like this channel's kind of card game. < 1368412875 253475 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :holdM_ is the version where you discard unused cards, right? < 1368412877 468542 :Bike!~Glossina@65-100-35-104.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Either that or the one you can't talk about. < 1368412888 84537 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ꙮ_ꙮ < 1368412888 405106 :Bike!~Glossina@65-100-35-104.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hold 'em is where you have a shared pool of cards. < 1368412900 52157 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You share 5 cards and 2 card are only your own cards. < 1368412912 67408 :Bike!~Glossina@65-100-35-104.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i realize that that was probably a pun, but fuck off < 1368412926 566591 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there are successive betting rounds with 0, 3, 4, 5 public cards < 1368412952 319208 :augur_!~augur@c-68-34-26-189.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1368412952 899020 :Tritonio__!~Tritonio@athedsl-18148.home.otenet.gr QUIT :*.net *.split < 1368412973 88099 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes and then you make your best 5 cards of the 7 available to you. If you have a royal flush, nobody else can; unlike in draw poker, in this game only one player can have a royal flush. < 1368412988 770152 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's true < 1368413014 628954 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : ꙮꙮ < 1368413014 869844 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ꙮꙮꙮꙮ < 1368413015 73937 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : ꙮꙮ < 1368413058 472103 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also your best hand could be just the five public cards, in which case your private hands don't matter (even to break ties) < 1368413096 850937 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :one problem with hold 'em is that good play involves folding most hands immediately, which is borng < 1368413102 709147 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know if other poker variants solve this problem < 1368413105 94577 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, although if your best hand is the five public cards, then you will at most tie. < 1368413108 609513 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :my best hand is ✌ < 1368413188 634633 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :1F64B HAPPY PERSON RAISING ONE HAND [] < 1368413221 945190 :Vorpal_!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal QUIT :*.net *.split < 1368413222 148234 :Tritonio_!~Tritonio@athedsl-18148.home.otenet.gr QUIT :*.net *.split < 1368413222 148380 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :*.net *.split < 1368413222 343454 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :*.net *.split < 1368413270 995190 :Tritonio__!~Tritonio@athedsl-18148.home.otenet.gr JOIN :#esoteric < 1368413271 242909 :augur_!~augur@c-68-34-26-189.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1368413279 608244 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@81-224-29-207-no185.bredband.skanova.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1368413408 283025 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://e.thumbs.redditmedia.com/9yFP31Q8OYauTsXL.png < 1368413419 976826 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Found in /r/lounge CSS < 1368413475 454667 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :dude like what are you doing like lounging man < 1368413477 887350 :Bike!~Glossina@65-100-35-104.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok. < 1368413480 297749 :augur_!~augur@c-68-34-26-189.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1368413480 723270 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@81-224-29-207-no185.bredband.skanova.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1368413480 723433 :Tritonio__!~Tritonio@athedsl-18148.home.otenet.gr QUIT :*.net *.split < 1368413521 392623 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1368413560 364962 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@81-224-29-207-no185.bredband.skanova.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1368413560 571498 :Tritonio__!~Tritonio@athedsl-18148.home.otenet.gr JOIN :#esoteric < 1368413560 571652 :augur_!~augur@c-68-34-26-189.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1368413625 482766 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@81-224-29-207-no185.bredband.skanova.com QUIT :Changing host < 1368413625 726434 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1368413772 859159 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1368416703 397091 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :entertain me < 1368416737 879579 :Bike!~Glossina@65-100-35-104.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Write out hofstadter's q sequence on paper, then make a hat out of it < 1368416749 547394 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1b/The_Entertainer_-_Scott_Joplin.ogg < 1368416750 308785 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let mee entertain you / Let me make you smile / Let me do a few tricks / Some old and then some new tricks / I'm very versatile < 1368416757 780548 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/ee/e/ < 1368416761 492320 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: good response < 1368416766 536975 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's been happening a lot to me lately. < 1368416780 93315 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something's wrong with my keyboard and/or finger and/or brain < 1368416800 583295 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and/or irc client and/or mosh and/or screen (why am i still using screen i should have switched to mosh when my server restarted i forgot help) < 1368416808 683152 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and/or eyes < 1368416814 514522 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-205-44.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1368416816 94190 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :switched to tmux you mean or? < 1368416829 935608 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :tmux is still actively developed so you know it's good < 1368416834 426452 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean tmux < 1368416836 620941 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because nothing makes software good like people actively fucking with it < 1368416840 55116 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-205-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, why am I awake < 1368416868 621172 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i used to play piano < 1368416870 8482 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no longer < 1368416891 697028 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Should I learn to play piano? < 1368416897 550220 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about another musical instrument? < 1368416927 349452 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shrug < 1368416939 462242 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about the... < 1368416942 970814 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :CHROMATIC BUTTON ACCORDION? < 1368416946 913619 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yikes < 1368416956 440941 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should learn to play the ondes Martenot < 1368416971 492036 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: What's the probability of you moving to SF this year? < 1368416983 645103 :Bike!~Glossina@65-100-35-104.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Accordions own. Learn to play that. < 1368416990 683050 :Bike!~Glossina@65-100-35-104.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're kind of expensive though ("unlike pianos") < 1368416999 385056 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Only chromatic button accordions hth < 1368417001 934679 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can get a free bad piano < 1368417003 805090 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Piano accordions are the devil. < 1368417008 745981 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :just by paying the cost to haul it away < 1368417024 785005 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i'm going to say 90% < 1368417033 979670 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a lot! < 1368417036 228907 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my girlfriend and I are both pretty sure it's what we want to do < 1368417046 577919 :yonkie!~yonkie@ip.82.144.199.214.stat.volia.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1368417049 79192 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's contingent on me getting a job in the SF area, but I expect I can do that < 1368417068 103456 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is pretty likely that I will be living in SF by September (because that's when my lease here ends) < 1368417115 261043 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :where are you presently/ < 1368417124 869434 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cambridge, MA < 1368417130 619720 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mid-Cambridge, MA < 1368417134 122000 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :;_; < 1368417139 682089 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-205-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who knows, by 2017 I may be in the SF area < 1368417141 488380 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :gradumating soon? < 1368417145 766604 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no I'm old < 1368417149 91329 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1368417155 75469 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-205-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably not < 1368417155 281240 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :"old" < 1368417159 398477 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-205-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :2019 maybe < 1368417162 691415 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, 25, but I graduated when I was 20 < 1368417162 898245 :Bike!~Glossina@65-100-35-104.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :old in elliott years < 1368417165 116119 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i feel old :( < 1368417168 314213 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's not all bad! < 1368417174 399383 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm way older < 1368417177 285348 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't graduated and I feel old. :-( < 1368417186 111849 :Bike!~Glossina@65-100-35-104.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you graduated at 20? well now i feel incompetent < 1368417202 91788 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :04:12:31 oh kmc is younger than I thought he was < 1368417202 91999 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :04:12:38 heh how old do i seem < 1368417202 92111 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :04:12:52 I assumed you were around my age < 1368417202 92221 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :04:13:12 ah, i don't perceive much of a gap between 21 and 25. maybe i will when i'm 25 < 1368417212 29871 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :my gf is in med school (4th year) and one of her classmates is 20 < 1368417215 917097 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1368417219 648322 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: maybe this is a humblebrag or something, but skipping grades in middle school wasn't a big deal < 1368417224 105060 :Bike!~Glossina@65-100-35-104.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, med students are freaks anyway. < 1368417227 270305 :Bike!~Glossina@65-100-35-104.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: oh. < 1368417230 252833 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the classes still move at the same pace, and each year is 80% recap of the previous year anyway < 1368417239 989310 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: wow < 1368417247 6452 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could have entered university earlier; am glad I did not < 1368417261 643448 :Bike!~Glossina@65-100-35-104.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I skipped two years of math classes, mostly meant i had an annoying schedule < 1368417268 419581 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-205-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was never good enough at English to skip a year < 1368417294 450454 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we had a magnet school, but it was only half day < 1368417301 905527 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i spent a *lot* of time on school buses < 1368417306 707997 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-205-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could have probably skipped a year in maths or science if the school system would allow it < 1368417312 586785 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :going back and forth between there and my regular public school < 1368417324 794355 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :magnet school? < 1368417333 430462 :Bike!~Glossina@65-100-35-104.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, I think the nearest magnet school is the one named after HeLa. That's kinda cool. < 1368417341 485336 :Bike!~Glossina@65-100-35-104.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: School for nerds < 1368417348 431355 :Bike!~Glossina@65-100-35-104.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh, in the US, specifically < 1368417348 631049 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1368417351 388454 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: seriously, learn to play the ondes Martenot < 1368417354 627480 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders why that terminology < 1368417355 678862 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and join a Radiohead cover band < 1368417368 385159 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't Radiohead have drums? < 1368417371 261661 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume they do. < 1368417373 620338 :Bike!~Glossina@65-100-35-104.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: because they get sudents from a wider area than usual schools. < 1368417375 67575 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: because they pull in gifted students from around the area < 1368417380 134567 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: oh, I forgot you hate drums :( < 1368417405 357075 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: The other day I got really annoyed at the person sitting next to me on the airplane for having music with drums playing in their earphones. < 1368417405 562969 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1368417405 768563 :Bike!~Glossina@65-100-35-104.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could join an arhythmic radiohead cover band. < 1368417417 732825 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they do have some ambient-ish tracks < 1368417422 329074 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION went to the Canadian equivalent < 1368417424 978524 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really enough for a whole bandi < 1368417426 184039 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :band < 1368417426 865163 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It escaped the earphones but just barely -- it wasn't particularly loud compared to the noise of the engine. < 1368417437 758989 :Bike!~Glossina@65-100-35-104.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shachaf should just join a Paul Lansky cover band. < 1368417439 58872 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it bothered me much more than any other noise. < 1368417444 529101 :Bike!~Glossina@65-100-35-104.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty much the same as radiohead < 1368417492 953851 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spinal Tap Drummer Dies From Arrhythmia < 1368417508 126357 :Bike!~Glossina@65-100-35-104.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~_~ < 1368417514 965529 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@184-97-190-154.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1368417522 540251 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Music has rhythm even without bands! < 1368417532 458712 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I mind drums in a song a bit less when I'm already familiar with it. < 1368417549 412858 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you count any kind of percussion as bad? < 1368417551 679233 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the backdoor to get me to listen to a song with drums in it is to make sure I'm familiar with it somehow. < 1368417552 492420 :Bike!~Glossina@65-100-35-104.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's slightly possible I'm being silly. < 1368417553 758203 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :or must it be drums < 1368417556 797840 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's "any kind of percussion"? < 1368417558 513257 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Piano is fine. < 1368417565 35051 :Bike!~Glossina@65-100-35-104.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cymbal solo!!! < 1368417568 498623 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Things that go boom-boom-boom-boom aren't. < 1368417569 669647 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean things like cymbals or snares < 1368417582 251478 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :become a concert percussionist < 1368417582 669730 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um, it depends? < 1368417591 127396 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What I don't like is the thing that Bike referred to as a "beat". < 1368417594 795194 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :your goal in life should be to play the bass drum in Verdi's Requiem < 1368417615 232931 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like you'd like sigur ros then :P < 1368417627 875649 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh < 1368417628 764324 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :although they do have some percussion < 1368417648 396619 :Bike!~Glossina@65-100-35-104.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basinski! < 1368417649 517685 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Other things I don't like: velvet, carbonated beverages < 1368417653 365924 :Bike!~Glossina@65-100-35-104.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just going to keep naming weirdos. < 1368417706 210740 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :although one of my favorite songs of theirs goes kind of crazy with the beat near the end < 1368417708 858451 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :so perhaps not < 1368417721 706193 :Bike!~Glossina@65-100-35-104.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haha, Pitchfork gave the loops 9.4/10 < 1368417741 518737 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwDHBqFedFg) < 1368417788 895047 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems like avoiding percussion cuts out most recent music < 1368417798 326266 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does. < 1368417800 342177 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1368417814 510984 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also epic orchestral music < 1368417815 176090 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-205-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Popcorn < 1368417815 849539 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-205-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1368417824 989081 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not all uses of drums are bad. < 1368417826 346833 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :the massive drum of the dies irae in verdi's requiem < 1368417828 374928 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh okay < 1368417831 581659 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :here, let me get you a massive drum < 1368417832 621910 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: YES THAT < 1368417838 908666 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :THAT IS THE THING I WAS TALKING ABOUT EARLIER < 1368417843 764946 :Bike!~Glossina@65-100-35-104.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1368417854 539363 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: listen to the dies irae! < 1368417855 208702 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pW1Uc-grcMs < 1368417857 198295 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has drums! < 1368417875 405750 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :0:15 < 1368417878 964347 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just, y'know, < 1368417885 592754 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : far away from the boom boom boom of the drummer / it was midsummer / what a bummer / clementine < 1368417887 587534 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's even better when he brings that theme back near the end < 1368417890 993793 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1368417892 32947 :Bike!~Glossina@65-100-35-104.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is what, 19th century? < 1368417902 410071 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1368417904 58706 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: I got to see it live a week ago < 1368417906 740165 :Bike!~Glossina@65-100-35-104.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, those are certainly drums. I don't think that's the "beat" shachaf doesn't like, though? < 1368417907 675639 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesome < 1368417909 791026 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was spectacular < 1368417913 720163 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a mind-blowing piece of music < 1368417918 405381 :Bike!~Glossina@65-100-35-104.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, they're pretty sparse. < 1368417921 137684 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: "beat" was your word! Don't you dare quote me on it! < 1368417929 876454 :Bike!~Glossina@65-100-35-104.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was quoting myself. < 1368417947 323309 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only rude people and shachaf quote themselves. < 1368417954 398847 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :the rex tremendae is awesome, as is the entire libera me at the end < 1368417955 693677 :Bike!~Glossina@65-100-35-104.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So there's no issue. < 1368417955 895324 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And monochrom. < 1368417966 132608 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck it, the whole thing is awesome < 1368417970 216015 :Bike!~Glossina@65-100-35-104.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway the 19th century was bigger on drums than earlier periods, I thought. < 1368417987 438655 :Bike!~Glossina@65-100-35-104.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean if you have a mandolin concerto or whatever. Not a lot of drumming going on there. < 1368417991 253468 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: I was in the very back of the theatre and could still feel the bass drum when he did the giant two-mallet beat < 1368418013 692918 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: Are you going to followeegan to SF? < 1368418025 445582 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :here, have leontyne: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nQbDQe12JA < 1368418041 926532 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a much younger pavarotti etc. < 1368418082 806506 :Bike!~Glossina@65-100-35-104.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does shachaf like bach? < 1368418091 432170 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :bachaf < 1368418093 709128 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :bachaf < 1368418095 711868 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1368418099 792783 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never met him. < 1368418111 919352 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo his music's p. good tho hth < 1368418129 687801 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :salva me fons pietatis < 1368418149 912197 :Bike!~Glossina@65-100-35-104.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :idly wondering if you'd like the crazy piano guy's version of the musical offering less, since he's really pointy with the keys < 1368418153 110942 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I go see _Arcadia_? < 1368418158 797140 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: no I'm not < 1368418161 880201 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I don't mind key pointiness. < 1368418166 680900 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :(followeeganing) < 1368418178 745743 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :followineegang < 1368418262 830947 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :here, no drums anywhere: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=KpYUaRg0aDw#t=830s < 1368418435 325860 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that's one of my favorite pieces ever, btw) < 1368418639 819133 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION kills conversation again < 1368418655 963631 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope you're all just too flabbergasted by that amazing piece to IRC anymore < 1368418668 387819 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was listening to it. < 1368418670 851910 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Am? < 1368418749 148366 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1368418806 186858 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/22/nanny-rich-british-russian-200k_n_933141.html?utm_hp_ref=50&ir=50 < 1368418957 26422 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: how many nannies do you employ < 1368418978 4610 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :one for each of my dogs < 1368419014 65434 :augur_!~augur@c-68-34-26-189.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1368419047 724331 :augur!~augur@c-68-34-26-189.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1368419080 42508 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :they need individual attention < 1368419483 347630 :augur!~augur@c-68-34-26-189.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1368420449 1023 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: That totally has drums or drumalikes. :-( < 1368420475 132008 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Rós thing. < 1368420512 423256 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-205-44.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1368420592 464704 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: hey should i read any russian novels hth < 1368420600 310635 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :no hth < 1368420619 433474 :Bike!~Glossina@65-100-35-104.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, just read short stories. < 1368420623 100915 :Bike!~Glossina@65-100-35-104.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Get some roadside picnics going. < 1368420623 561818 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not hth < 1368420646 205927 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could read asimov? I think he's russian < 1368420653 620495 :Bike!~Glossina@65-100-35-104.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, briefly. < 1368420665 779914 :Bike!~Glossina@65-100-35-104.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Different literary tradition. < 1368420670 652010 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :read the idiot hth < 1368420693 80921 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why the idiot hth < 1368420695 395091 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :also which translation < 1368420714 569911 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one into english perhaps? < 1368420716 442666 :Bike!~Glossina@65-100-35-104.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly you should read demons. get yo hate on < 1368420733 966573 :Bike!~Glossina@65-100-35-104.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel sorry for translators. They get no respect. < 1368420750 535073 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: You mean from people like olsner? < 1368420761 783302 :Bike!~Glossina@65-100-35-104.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. < 1368420768 161813 :Bike!~Glossina@65-100-35-104.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :though maybe he's kidding or whatever, who knows. < 1368420847 208997 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, actually I don't respect translators (not entirely decided as to whether I should or not but leaning towards "shouldn't") < 1368420866 900113 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're a poor workaround for me not knowing all languages < 1368420937 610756 :Bike!~Glossina@65-100-35-104.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok. < 1368420939 877959 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-207-1.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What of the universal translator? :P < 1368421123 344588 :Bike!~Glossina@65-100-35-104.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm still just stuck thinking of how bad Verne's translations were, I guess. < 1368421136 187422 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which? < 1368421159 824260 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I read a lot of Verne in Hebrew. < 1368421181 565256 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hofstadter wrote that book about translation < 1368421182 965111 :Bike!~Glossina@65-100-35-104.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The early ones into English. They were almost all basically terrible, and they kept on being terrible and republished for so long that he has a way different reputation in the anglophone world than he does everywhere else. < 1368421198 77266 :Bike!~Glossina@65-100-35-104.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is sad. < 1368421221 419393 :Bike!~Glossina@65-100-35-104.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I liked that book, but I'm a monoglot so I probably know nothing about anything. < 1368421225 334903 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I read most Verne that I've read in Hebrew. < 1368421234 804544 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think. < 1368421242 750990 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Later I reread some in English. < 1368421242 921849 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a bit surprising, I'd assume the number of english speakers would generally make translations into english better than other translations < 1368421247 4505 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :_The Mysterious Island_ is good. < 1368421266 91603 :Bike!~Glossina@65-100-35-104.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: They still sold well, because they were translated as pulp. < 1368421312 936933 :Bike!~Glossina@65-100-35-104.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I mean, it's weird to reconcile the crud that made it into that League of Extraordinary Gentlemen movie with a guy who inspired Perec. < 1368421965 623136 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1368422051 986799 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368422322 2855 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1368422747 215293 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Musicians_by_band < 1368422756 732890 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :This category contains only the following page. This list may not reflect recent changes (learn more). < 1368422759 715170 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :F < 1368422762 232437 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :User talk:FLASHBUDDHAI THE BASS-KONG < 1368422867 20554 :Bike!~Glossina@65-100-35-104.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am all kinds of ready to talk about FLASHBUDDHAI THE BASS-KONG. < 1368422994 868889 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368425749 739610 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.112 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368425815 468862 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://developer.android.com/reference/android/hardware/SensorManager.html#GRAVITY_DEATH_STAR_I oh Android, you and your APIs. < 1368425950 626120 :Bike!~Glossina@65-100-35-104.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, pretty low, huh. < 1368425962 237901 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow a star wars reference, take that corporate suits < 1368425972 284658 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is also GRAVITY_THE_ISLAND, "Gravity on the island". < 1368425979 490452 :Bike!~Glossina@65-100-35-104.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a Lost reference or what < 1368425997 281487 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has the Lost numbers in it, so probably. < 1368426024 93563 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's 4.815162 somethings; unlike all other GRAVITY_FOO constants, the units are not documented.) < 1368426896 258425 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1368426963 50674 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: my friend wrote this article, how do i argue with them http://blog.sosonkin.com/2013/05/then-i-finally-understood-monads.html < 1368426969 248275 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(note: not actually my friend) < 1368426975 302793 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :more like a frenemy? < 1368426983 385760 :Bike!~Glossina@65-100-35-104.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"more like a stranger" < 1368427004 486000 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :not my friend. more like my bicycle < 1368427014 861931 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. way north in washington and rusting < 1368427026 61015 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we were just outside of barstow when I finally understood monads < 1368427055 495409 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the joke is that my bicycle is in washington and rusting < 1368427055 894658 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, there are several problems with it. < 1368427060 67633 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and Bike is also in washington < 1368427065 390479 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and Bike is a common abbreviation for bicycle < 1368427093 468409 :Bike!~Glossina@65-100-35-104.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh i'm getting some alternate openings when i google that kmcism < 1368427098 296841 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :One (minor) problem is adding extra parentheses, but this isn't really a problem, since it would still work like that. < 1368427108 280348 :Bike!~Glossina@65-100-35-104.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fear and loahting in textual criticism < 1368427146 586717 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :They say they are to indicate the three monads, but the third thing surrounded is a function! < 1368427215 877025 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, in other words, putStr whatever is making the IO action (IO monad type), not the monad itself. < 1368427222 936584 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Furthermore, maybe putStrLn might be better here. < 1368427254 695325 :Bike!~Glossina@65-100-35-104.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the true monad is not the monad that can be spoken of < 1368427263 699977 :Bike!~Glossina@65-100-35-104.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's probably not true for monadology actually, huh. < 1368427268 257700 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least the article explains how it is used; this much makes some sense. < 1368427275 659673 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the monad that can be monaded is not the true monad < 1368427283 972617 :Bike!~Glossina@65-100-35-104.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monade* < 1368427295 2966 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :☝REFERENCE TO BAD TRANSLATIONS OF THE TAO TE CHING☝ < 1368427297 576658 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The stuff about philosophy isn't really applicable much. < 1368427304 903427 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the word for speaking of is the same as the word for tao or something" < 1368427318 86924 :Bike!~Glossina@65-100-35-104.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there good translations of the tao te ching < 1368427331 66670 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like the excerps in raymond smullyan books < 1368427332 273963 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :t < 1368427339 263826 :Bike!~Glossina@65-100-35-104.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you would < 1368427348 661123 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's a real excpert in the tao te ching < 1368427354 712520 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least it explains how to use the IO monad; it doesn't really explain it except how the IO monad works, but it does at least explain things which do "are the connectors or the glue that keeps these monad particles together to form a composite substance" is a way to explain the IO monad. < 1368427373 249043 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is how to argue of it, isn't it? < 1368427377 608090 :Bike!~Glossina@65-100-35-104.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is. < 1368427384 18293 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :☝ IM WITH SACHAF ☝ < 1368427431 861265 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: ☛ On the choice of Unicode characters? ☚ < 1368427461 104880 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :_How to Argue of It_, by George Pólya < 1368427490 522480 :Bike!~Glossina@65-100-35-104.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That made me spit. Now my furniture is all wet. < 1368427879 694761 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: You should know better than to drink while IRCing with the Almighty Funpuns! < 1368427889 455159 :Bike!~Glossina@65-100-35-104.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed I should, but I don't. < 1368427966 786312 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :idgi < 1368427981 652874 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :there isn't much i to g < 1368428040 850522 :Bike!~Glossina@65-100-35-104.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know why it made me laugh that hard. Maybe polya is just inherently amusing < 1368428109 803357 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: There's a book by George Pólya called _How to Solve It_. It's famous, I think? < 1368428135 310585 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The joke was taking zzo38's sentence fragment and casting it in that light. Putting it in the mental context reserved for the title of that book. < 1368428146 873475 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@184-97-190-154.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1368428231 337052 :Bike!~Glossina@65-100-35-104.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rot13 Almighty < 1368428231 542738 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nyzvtugl < 1368428242 750815 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1368428259 703504 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1368428508 664577 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :all right < 1368428516 752175 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Excerpt: expert expects express, except exerts excess excrete. < 1368429317 722892 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.112 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1368429488 70734 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1368429529 390449 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368429541 689797 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua JOIN :#esoteric < 1368430368 13826 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1368430811 689710 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368430887 485049 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you write "I will eat you" in Latin? < 1368430934 249135 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://translate.google.com/#en/la/I%20will%20eat%20you. hth < 1368431282 149896 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Oh boy, fruitFly. < 1368431300 801915 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have fun with that. < 1368431309 230879 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh who/what is fruitFly < 1368431470 61552 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :am i in for a, 'fun surprise' < 1368431560 751473 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :are Matasano problems the new Project Euler < 1368431567 99206 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :A person who's been banned from #haskell multiple times. < 1368431574 639977 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Admittedly mostly by elliott. < 1368431585 727570 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But anyway you can make up your own mind about them. < 1368431637 22745 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1368431642 116924 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :resisting urge to logread < 1368431717 716161 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://slbkbs.org/fru.txt hth < 1368431788 603109 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://translate.google.com/#la/en/We%20eat%20the%20Gauls is apparently valid latin < 1368431815 817268 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: your server doesn't tell me what the charset is :'( < 1368431821 956862 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no :'( < 1368431830 586424 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: it's ANSI hth < 1368431843 678780 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i feel dirty i take that back < 1368431902 673776 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ḧigh ascii < 1368431935 541084 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I tried to rub those dots off my screen < 1368431994 845242 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1368431998 242579 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are there by accident < 1368432029 632369 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that's not a combining character. < 1368432038 127941 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ḧ is actually a codepoint. < 1368432051 486163 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried to rub it off again < 1368432059 597940 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I probably should clean this screen < 1368432060 734541 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ḧḧḧḧḧḧḧḧḧḧḧḧḧḧḧḧḧḧḧḧḧḧḧḧḧḧḧḧḧḧḧḧḧḧḧḧḧḧḧḧḧḧḧḧ < 1368432109 676271 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stanisław Lem < 1368432114 667622 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stanisław Łem < 1368432214 736076 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even so, I'd say that it's worth raising awareness of it. Haskell's identification of inductive data with coinductive data, however well motivated, has allowed people to be lazy. People aren't so likely to be thinking "do I mean inductive or coinductive here?", "is this function productive?" etc. The usual style is to write as if everything is inductive, and if it still works on infinite data, to pat ourselves on the back for using Haskell ... < 1368432220 772122 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :... rather than ML. I'm certainly guilty of that. < 1368432261 830720 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stan̈ısław < 1368432280 601501 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Šţāŋĭs̷ła⃫w⃥. < 1368432425 965737 :pikhq_!~pikhq@75-163-170-131.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1368432440 656013 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-207-1.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1368432629 345364 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ŝťāņɨṣŀåⱳ < 1368432684 417279 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls bin/*alg* < 1368432688 240576 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/zalgo \ bin/zalgoerjan < 1368432690 761976 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo Stanislaw | bin/zalgo < 1368432692 771248 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :S̆tͨa͡n͘i̒s͉l̽ảw̖ \ ͨ < 1368432703 374667 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo Stanislaw | zalgo | zalgo | zalgo | zalgo | zalgo < 1368432705 667546 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :S̶̡̟͇̠͉̯̻̝͔͇̥̪͓̩̣̹͙͈̄͂ͣ̈́̀́ͥ̆͑̋ͩ̽t͍͏̷̨̰̤̣̮̫̻͕̹͈͈̙͙̘̼͎͖ͮ̿̓̈́̃̀̋̑ͣͦ͡a̸̴̖̳̯̘̣͖͔̰̮̥̺̝̻͇̅̏̔́͑ͭͣͣ́̐͛̉́̚͠n̷̵̷̰̬̻͔̼̝̩̬̏̓́͂ͯͮ͑ͩ̆͋͐̈ͮ̓ͤ̚͢͝͡͝į̶̸̷̵̧̡̞̘̝͚̦̖͙̰̳̜̓̃ͬ̉ͭ͋̓̌̾̋̃ͩ̆͡s̨̡̯̩̲̤͓̤͍͚̞̅̏̾̚͟͟ < 1368432708 402055 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1368432768 119469 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we heard you like combining characters < 1368432778 650407 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That broke my terminal. < 1368432787 434827 :Bike!~Glossina@65-100-35-104.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1368432864 397483 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It broke Bike's IRC client. < 1368432894 862607 :pikhq_!~pikhq@75-163-170-131.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo Zalgo | (cat>tmp;for i in `seq 1 10`;do zalgo tmp1;mv tmp1 tmp;done;cat tmp) < 1368432904 109261 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Z̵̢̢̧̧̢̨̨̨̛̠̖͍̥̞̫̞̱̮͇̫̟̺̝̼̦̹̭͖̟̘̯̯̰̥̻͕̩͉̜̬̼̬̣̰̮̩̹̋̃̔ͬ̾̿̃ͣ̎͌ͬ̿ͪ̆̆̅̉ͪ͋̆͒̌̀ͦ̀̒̀͂͂̐ͫ͋̓̇͋̅́ͦ̍́̽̾̌̇͐͊̓̆ͨ̒ͦ́ͧͦ͑̐͘̕̕͜͠͡͞͠ͅͅ͏̵̸̛̖͈̣̰͉̲̼͇̤̜̼̻̹̩̞̯̜̠͈̟͉̱ͥ̌́̌ͣ͑̂̑ͯ̂͆̂ͯ͒ͧͭͦ̿̎̈ͨ̐ͣͮͩ́̿ͬ̚͜͟͝͞͞ < 1368432921 317014 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1368433093 707666 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1368433221 704031 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.179.134 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368433401 878897 :ggherdov!uid11402@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bzcjcijlryazajtg QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1368433401 879063 :glogbot!dlopen@libdl.so QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds > 1368433407 985106 JOIN :#esoteric > 1368433412 116414 JOIN :#esoteric > 1368433412 632358 JOIN :#esoteric > 1368433439 323732 JOIN :#esoteric > 1368433443 456636 JOIN :#esoteric > 1368433443 972765 JOIN :#esoteric > 1368433493 318760 JOIN :#esoteric > 1368433497 446913 JOIN :#esoteric > 1368433497 962440 JOIN :#esoteric > 1368433547 690932 JOIN :#esoteric > 1368433551 820109 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:nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.179.134 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1368435257 793202 :ggherdov_!uid11402@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pktonyfiyreynxmj NICK :ggherdov < 1368435746 583512 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1368435809 799936 :Effilry!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly NICK :FireFly < 1368436446 596135 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_non-invasion_of_Poland < 1368437129 268024 :btiffin!~btiffin@24-212-223-48.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1368437419 741280 :Tritonio_!~Tritonio@athedsl-18148.home.otenet.gr JOIN :#esoteric < 1368437461 398397 :btiffin!~btiffin@24-212-223-48.cable.teksavvy.com PART :#esoteric < 1368437528 106933 :Tritonio__!~Tritonio@athedsl-18148.home.otenet.gr QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1368437730 201953 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1368438527 692066 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1368438553 98261 :Snowyowl!4f8d542d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.141.84.45 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368438633 236170 :Snowyowl!4f8d542d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.141.84.45 PRIVMSG #esoteric :def fib(n): return round( pow(1.618033988749895,n) / 2.23606797749979) < 1368438672 625905 :Snowyowl!4f8d542d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.141.84.45 PRIVMSG #esoteric :floating-point numbers make for the best Fibonacci algorithms < 1368438738 65264 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :>>> fib(69) + fib(70), fib(71) < 1368438738 431393 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(308061521170129.0, 308061521170130.0) < 1368438739 766961 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FAIL < 1368438806 931739 :Snowyowl!4f8d542d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.141.84.45 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, but the guy who used signed integers only made it to 2147483648 anyway. < 1368438842 728030 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what's the shortest closed form for fib using only integer math < 1368439043 119871 :Snowyowl!4f8d542d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.141.84.45 PRIVMSG #esoteric :,[->>[>]+[<]< ]>+>[-<<[->+> +<<]>>>]<.<.- perhaps < 1368439072 897237 :Snowyowl!4f8d542d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.141.84.45 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't write that though, do we have a bf interpreter here to test it with? < 1368439087 932234 :Snowyowl!4f8d542d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.141.84.45 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf ,[->>[>]+[<]< ]>+>[-<<[->+> +<<]>>>]<.<.- < 1368439089 849464 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​. < 1368439118 352796 :Snowyowl!4f8d542d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.141.84.45 PRIVMSG #esoteric :9 < 1368439135 294416 :Snowyowl!4f8d542d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.141.84.45 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... is he prompting for input or something? < 1368439195 226916 :Snowyowl!4f8d542d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.141.84.45 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf ++++++++++++++++++[->>[>]+[<]< ]>+>[-<<[->+> +<<]>>>]<.<.- < 1368439195 738014 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​=. < 1368439543 311796 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^fib < 1368439543 568555 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.1.1.2.3.5.8.13.21.34.55.89.144.233.377.610.987.1597.2584.4181.6765.10946.17711.28657.46368.75025.121393.196418.317811.514229.832040.1346269.2178309.3524578.5702887.9227465.14930352.24157817.39088169.632459 ... < 1368439545 555849 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^show fib < 1368439545 723388 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :>+10>+>+[[+5[>+8<-]>.<+6[>-8<-]+<3]>.>>[[-]<[>+<-]>>[<2+>+>-]<[>+<-[>+<-[>+<-[>+<-[>+<-[>+<-[>+<-[>+<-[>+<-[>[-]>+>+<3-[>+<-]]]]]]]]]]]+>>>]<3][] < 1368439558 552085 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That's not "shortest", it's just there.) < 1368439776 756698 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :]]]]]]]]]]] < 1368439804 792092 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's mostly about the decimal output. < 1368439818 421900 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The snippetshown above opts not to do that. < 1368439839 754561 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ,[->>[>]+[<]< ]>+>[-<<[->+> +<<]>>>]<.<.-! < 1368439839 922339 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :7Y < 1368439841 891230 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ord 7Y < 1368439842 58678 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :55 89 < 1368439849 203279 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the right numbers all right. < 1368439895 372956 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ,[->>[>]+[<]< ]>+>[-<<[->+> +<<]>>>]<.<.-!0 < 1368439895 650574 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ < 1368439926 265305 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is a good strategy to compress BF code? < 1368439949 817261 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(besides from RLE of course) < 1368440011 336137 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :klmgrv < 1368440421 768966 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1368440515 704071 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua JOIN :#esoteric < 1368441157 696152 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1368441408 532430 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir, well. < 1368441419 236149 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can get a constant 1/2 size reduction with any program... < 1368442425 683171 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua JOIN :#esoteric < 1368442595 240010 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist < 1368442597 242295 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly < 1368442821 678883 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1368442965 4659 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, someone has renamed the latest generation of workstations at the CS building classroom after esolangs: http://www.niksula.hut.fi/maps < 1368443035 816835 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe not "renamed", I suppose those are likely to be their first names, but anyway. < 1368443531 589772 :Snowyowl!4f8d542d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.141.84.45 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1368443532 418662 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1368443533 384460 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1368443580 429085 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1368443607 265833 :Snowyowl!4f8d542d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.141.84.45 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368443654 919653 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1368443681 501034 :Snowyowl!4f8d542d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.141.84.45 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello? < 1368443717 268351 :Snowyowl!4f8d542d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.141.84.45 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ping < 1368443720 948564 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pong! < 1368443729 52963 :Snowyowl!4f8d542d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.141.84.45 QUIT :Client Quit < 1368443774 88104 :Snowyowl!4f8d542d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.141.84.45 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368443792 456487 :Snowyowl!4f8d542d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.141.84.45 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ping < 1368443794 612175 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pong! < 1368443813 770779 :Tritonio_!~Tritonio@athedsl-18148.home.otenet.gr QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1368443820 236122 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome Snowyowl < 1368443823 693933 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​11Snowyowl: Welcom07e 03to t10he in10ternati06o12na02l hu08b fo03r esoteric02 p13rogram03ming langua06ge desig03n 02and depl09o09ymen12t! For mor12e information, check 04out our04 wi13ki: http://esolangs.org/05wik11i/Main_Pa09ge. (For09 th05e other kind 02of esoterica, t13ry #esote04ric on ir04c.dal.net.) < 1368443836 107755 :Snowyowl!4f8d542d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.141.84.45 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can someone read this message? My client is being weird today, and I'm not sure if I'm actually connected to anything. < 1368443899 193855 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, can you read it? < 1368443899 788029 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: really? what's your definition of " partition" couldn't be further normalized, even though people in general. < 1368444086 923305 :Snowyowl!4f8d542d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.141.84.45 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1368444091 695458 :comex`!~comex@ec2-23-22-255-183.compute-1.amazonaws.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1368444092 433111 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly QUIT :*.net *.split < 1368444092 600420 :ion!ion@heh.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1368444092 600589 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn QUIT :*.net *.split < 1368444093 465074 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1368444321 412161 :Snowyowl!4f8d542d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.141.84.45 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368444321 579555 :comex`!~comex@ec2-23-22-255-183.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1368444321 579624 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly JOIN :#esoteric < 1368444321 579659 :ion!ion@heh.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1368444321 579690 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368444351 13983 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly QUIT :Ping timeout: 241 seconds < 1368444374 593351 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly JOIN :#esoteric < 1368444614 902932 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn JOIN :#esoteric < 1368445202 485993 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@184-97-190-154.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1368445664 347502 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368445926 364189 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.64 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368446104 329928 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@184-97-190-154.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1368446403 693111 :Snowyowl!4f8d542d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.141.84.45 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we need a bot that makes sarcastic comments after a netsplit < 1368446417 70114 :Snowyowl!4f8d542d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.141.84.45 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, not "need" exactly, but it would be nice to have < 1368446652 660110 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Couldn't you do that? You're good at sarcasm. < 1368446653 253915 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: true ( lambda () proc) will evalute to ( lambda ( args...), treat it as a parameter to the procedure < 1368446669 104668 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Okay, you're *sometimes* good at it. < 1368446669 381719 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: give it a fnord game?) value. < 1368446676 208245 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I give up. < 1368446676 400347 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: did his palm pilot < 1368446688 175232 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"That's what his palm pilot said." < 1368446838 578079 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368447299 177856 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1368447369 807923 :impomatic!~digital_w@43.22.125.91.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1368447372 321166 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1368447375 668143 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1368447395 968225 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric < 1368447422 210307 :Snowyowl!4f8d542d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.141.84.45 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is anyone here doing this Underhanded C Contest thing in the topic? < 1368447459 922733 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bet kmc is < 1368447642 279577 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's so underhanded, after all < 1368447962 526621 :coppro_!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca NICK :coppro < 1368448014 490615 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The underfunded C contest. < 1368448075 633032 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not like the ioccc, whoring itself out to corporate interests < 1368448401 723058 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua JOIN :#esoteric < 1368449019 275692 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-170-131.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1368449082 405287 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: ? < 1368449222 220674 :constant!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :trout < 1368449268 26871 :epicmonkey_!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1368449369 730664 :Vorpal_!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1368449373 77583 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet TOPIC #esoteric :The channel which splits off off on-off on-topic discussion | we can all be terrible together | http://underhanded.xcott.com/?page_id=5 | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1368449376 988926 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro, it's called patter hth < 1368449432 712925 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua QUIT :*.net *.split < 1368449433 255042 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so QUIT :*.net *.split < 1368449436 573867 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal QUIT :*.net *.split < 1368449439 712115 :abumirqaan!uid2969@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-usdtoeeqyfhlpkvp QUIT :*.net *.split < 1368449441 203871 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1368449441 371148 :pikhq_!~pikhq@75-163-170-131.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1368449441 988739 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1368449470 271346 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.64 QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1368449490 59864 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric < 1368449586 209945 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1368449860 112437 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Snowyowl: I probably will, since I just got a brilliantly evil idea in the shower < 1368449922 997096 :Snowyowl!4f8d542d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.141.84.45 PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you now? < 1368450129 429768 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1368451500 744009 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1368451543 268588 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1368451560 245021 :epicmonkey_!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1368451631 312668 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :*.net *.split > 1368451670 819281 JOIN :#esoteric > 1368451674 940293 JOIN :#esoteric > 1368451675 457117 JOIN :#esoteric > 1368451714 875742 JOIN :#esoteric > 1368451718 991266 JOIN :#esoteric > 1368451719 510157 JOIN :#esoteric > 1368451764 1609 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368451765 206532 :glogbot!dlopen@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric < 1368451765 229350 :wolfe.freenode.net NOTICE #esoteric :[freenode-info] please register your nickname...don't forget to auto-identify! http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup > 1368451768 144748 JOIN :#esoteric > 1368451768 661736 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368451822 519690 :sivoais!~zaki@unaffiliated/sivoais JOIN :#esoteric < 1368451864 602281 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.64 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368452362 911741 :tromp__!~tromp@rtc35-148.rentec.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1368452540 851075 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-148.rentec.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1368452668 894614 :pikhq_!~pikhq@75-163-170-131.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1368452855 636142 :Snowyowl!4f8d542d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.141.84.45 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1368452860 482879 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-170-131.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1368453016 748793 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1368453027 946774 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-148.rentec.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1368453041 282787 :coppro_!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1368453047 76375 :quintopi1!~quintopia@74.117.159.204 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368453050 567527 :coppro_!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca QUIT :*.net *.split < 1368453051 385958 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so QUIT :*.net *.split < 1368453052 845479 :comex`!~comex@ec2-23-22-255-183.compute-1.amazonaws.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1368453052 845634 :ion!ion@heh.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1368453052 845713 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1368453052 845866 :quintopi1!~quintopia@74.117.159.204 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1368453052 845941 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.64 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1368453052 846015 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1368453052 846091 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly QUIT :*.net *.split < 1368453111 913344 :sivoais_!~zaki@199.19.225.239 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368453150 400930 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric < 1368453300 554496 :quintopi1!~quintopia@74.117.159.204 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368453300 700018 :coppro_!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1368453300 700108 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.64 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368453300 700141 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368453300 700173 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly JOIN :#esoteric < 1368453300 700204 :comex`!~comex@ec2-23-22-255-183.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1368453300 700235 :ion!ion@heh.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1368453300 700265 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368453413 758308 :Tritonio!~Tritonio@athedsl-18148.home.otenet.gr QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1368453536 140921 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch JOIN :#esoteric < 1368453782 723388 :Tritonio!~Tritonio@athedsl-18148.home.otenet.gr JOIN :#esoteric < 1368453924 585818 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch QUIT :Write error: Broken pipe < 1368453924 731475 :sivoais!~zaki@unaffiliated/sivoais QUIT :Write error: Connection reset by peer < 1368453924 973121 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca QUIT :Write error: Broken pipe < 1368453925 170305 :tromp__!~tromp@rtc35-148.rentec.com QUIT :Write error: Broken pipe < 1368453943 235818 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1368454419 143279 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-205-44.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1368455023 704716 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-31-103.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1368455061 308940 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-31-103.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1368455061 454460 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1368455254 819917 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1368455679 93667 :Snowyowl!4f8d542d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.141.84.45 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368455768 489631 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1368456038 544255 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1368456174 232442 :abumirqaan!uid2969@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-raohhkyvuwiqsmbp JOIN :#esoteric < 1368456462 663464 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua JOIN :#esoteric < 1368456488 28771 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: Brb < 1368456869 689083 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1368456892 29597 :coppro_!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca NICK :coppro < 1368457006 730415 :nooodl!~nooodl@109.129.64.76 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368457181 394008 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1368457440 65148 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1368457763 355031 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-205-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: how did you get on with IRC bots in Haskell library stuff < 1368457916 663750 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I used simpleirc and compiled everything with GHC 7.4. if you're talking about the very gazeous new iteration, then nothing yet. < 1368458314 777531 :bayemmar03!~Sri_Harsh@117.193.160.101 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368458405 253484 :bayemmar03!~Sri_Harsh@117.193.160.101 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1368458555 974552 :epicmonkey_!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1368458813 861119 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1368459389 61753 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Thanks! < 1368459493 724068 :Tritonio!~Tritonio@athedsl-18148.home.otenet.gr QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1368459591 156142 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368459957 49931 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (- 1) < 1368459962 715692 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval: ExitFailure 1 < 1368459962 861628 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval: Prelude.undefined < 1368459970 571956 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (- 1) < 1368459975 869555 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval: ExitFailure 1 < 1368459976 19600 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval: Prelude.undefined < 1368459984 379886 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1368459989 921907 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> -1 < 1368459995 601633 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval: ExitFailure 1 < 1368459995 747652 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval: Prelude.undefined < 1368459999 187505 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1 < 1368460000 707545 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368460004 412573 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval: ExitFailure 1 < 1368460004 619478 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval: Prelude.undefined < 1368460013 655338 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval (- 1) < 1368460014 123603 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Error (1): < 1368460015 653359 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval (- 1) < 1368460015 855518 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Error (1): < 1368460018 560563 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok houston we have a problem < 1368460022 856217 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval -1 < 1368460023 145625 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Error (1): < 1368460027 771944 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> -1 :: Integer < 1368460033 422712 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : -1 < 1368460038 267410 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval -1 :: Integer < 1368460038 679766 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Error (1): < 1368460041 653487 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn. < 1368460049 415258 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> -1 :: () < 1368460054 687443 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval: ExitFailure 1 < 1368460054 833220 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval: Prelude.undefined < 1368460058 657542 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1368460085 68405 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone added another insane instance, which messes up all intuitive defaulting as well < 1368460104 352628 :Snowyowl!4f8d542d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.141.84.45 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I go to another tab for five minutes and you guys get lisp all over my chat history. < 1368460121 951419 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Snowyowl: that's haskell hth < 1368460133 163497 :Snowyowl!4f8d542d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.141.84.45 PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, yeah < 1368460139 280071 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're the same. < 1368460142 447792 :Snowyowl!4f8d542d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.141.84.45 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth? < 1368460150 299096 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hth < 1368460152 228720 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth here there be hambiguity < 1368460166 817980 :Snowyowl!4f8d542d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.141.84.45 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so not "how the hell", then, good to know. < 1368460180 386945 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i may not have personally added that definition hth < 1368460197 826174 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: uh, no < 1368460198 734630 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> () < 1368460199 90639 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it was my fault. < 1368460201 187112 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is just broken < 1368460204 176143 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval: ExitFailure 1 < 1368460204 321868 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval: Prelude.undefined < 1368460214 886913 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1368460215 355578 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval () :: () < 1368460215 753506 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Error (1): < 1368460226 194063 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that _would_ be a very insane instance, admittedly. < 1368460231 177886 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: hth did you do that hth < 1368460248 951084 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Snowyowl: i am adding your interpretation to my repertoire hth < 1368460296 311550 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> x < 1368460300 923193 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : x < 1368460311 238971 :Snowyowl!4f8d542d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.141.84.45 PRIVMSG #esoteric :x < 1368460316 511369 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :only the () type? < 1368460317 641521 :tswett_!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com NICK :tswett < 1368460341 815770 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1368460357 627443 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*boily: hth did you do that hth < 1368460367 219453 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mistheread < 1368460402 507867 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> Just (1 :: Integer) < 1368460407 776257 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval: ExitFailure 1 < 1368460407 921923 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval: Prelude.undefined < 1368460415 232292 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1368460421 320966 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: about adding the `? for hth hth < 1368460426 143073 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> Just 1 :: Maybe Integer < 1368460428 601991 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: ah < 1368460431 839011 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval: ExitFailure 1 < 1368460431 985061 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval: Prelude.undefined < 1368460443 279274 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe also borken... < 1368460447 66043 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> x < 1368460452 51056 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval: ExitFailure 1 < 1368460452 219336 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval: Prelude.undefined < 1368460454 39154 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Maybe < 1368460479 781519 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it's a heisenbug < 1368460485 655779 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1 :: Integer < 1368460490 954801 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval: ExitFailure 1 < 1368460491 100797 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval: Prelude.undefined < 1368460499 584528 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :very well (or bad) then < 1368460681 372438 :sivoais_!~zaki@199.19.225.239 QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1368460718 135792 :sivoais!~zaki@unaffiliated/sivoais JOIN :#esoteric < 1368460769 171915 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :* kmc is learning the moves for rotating the centers of a Rubik's cube <-- is that something zen-like... < 1368460814 946866 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368460848 223281 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1368460856 39831 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: someday, I'll get a rubik's bonsai. < 1368460858 854319 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :logroerjan < 1368460895 152573 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok that picture rationale makes it make sense < 1368460973 680644 :Tritonio!~Tritonio@athedsl-18148.home.otenet.gr JOIN :#esoteric < 1368461384 742619 :Tritonio_!~Tritonio@athedsl-18148.home.otenet.gr JOIN :#esoteric < 1368461477 662535 :Tritonio!~Tritonio@athedsl-18148.home.otenet.gr QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1368461669 700622 :Tritonio_!~Tritonio@athedsl-18148.home.otenet.gr QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1368461709 962728 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1368461711 708185 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua JOIN :#esoteric < 1368461738 148712 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1368461751 601179 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently wallander is about a swedish detective who fails in everything he does < 1368461758 576555 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why have i not been watching this < 1368461811 960389 :Tritonio!~Tritonio@athedsl-18148.home.otenet.gr JOIN :#esoteric < 1368461878 316734 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric : i wonder if it's actually just m times n <-- the category of matrices is isomorphic to a subset of the category of linear transformations, a special case of module category, from which you get that both categorical product and sum ar m plus n iirc. < 1368461883 140834 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*are < 1368461902 544349 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you forget to "hth" that? < 1368461916 127974 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks like such a hth comment. < 1368461929 624391 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because they're the direct sums of modules in the larger category. < 1368461935 57483 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: maybe hth < 1368461940 237635 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, well joke's on you because i GUESSED < 1368461952 198061 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: oh NOOOOOOOOO < 1368462013 808768 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think that you can take it < 1368462030 682663 :Tritonio_!~Tritonio@athedsl-18148.home.otenet.gr JOIN :#esoteric < 1368462034 64904 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm mad as hell and i cannot take it any more, hth < 1368462076 863296 :Tritonio_!~Tritonio@athedsl-18148.home.otenet.gr QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1368462085 736317 :Tritonio!~Tritonio@athedsl-18148.home.otenet.gr QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1368462096 690276 :Tritonio_!~Tritonio@athedsl-18148.home.otenet.gr JOIN :#esoteric < 1368462332 597120 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric : did you know: you can exponentiate by matrices <-- that's essentially how you get time evolution in quantum mechanics hth < 1368462380 798782 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck quantum mechanics < 1368462483 810026 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the time evolution unitary operator is essentially the exponential of t*the energy operator. or thereabouts. < 1368462500 886951 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-62.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1368462552 212719 :Tritonio_!~Tritonio@athedsl-18148.home.otenet.gr QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1368462572 704473 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh list < 1368462585 704028 :Tritonio_!~Tritonio@athedsl-18148.home.otenet.gr JOIN :#esoteric < 1368462613 517187 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony JOIN :#esoteric < 1368462885 700852 :Tritonio_!~Tritonio@athedsl-18148.home.otenet.gr QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1368462947 729722 :Tritonio_!~Tritonio@athedsl-18148.home.otenet.gr JOIN :#esoteric < 1368463084 986466 :Tritonio_!~Tritonio@athedsl-18148.home.otenet.gr QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1368463291 275127 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1368463304 206684 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-205-44.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1368463336 677766 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: hi! < 1368463361 165656 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :e9f5bd2bae1c70770ff8c6e6cf2d7b76 < 1368463389 847829 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1368463462 369556 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ThatOtherPerson: crackstation.net can't find a match. < 1368463467 721029 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric : dude like what are you doing like lounging man <-- Sgeo literally _is_ the reddit Gold, hth. < 1368463476 726505 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: seriously? < 1368463501 986019 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :also that website is blocked in Saudi Arabia < 1368463509 484844 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at least here < 1368463517 677801 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I guess the point of this `o was the "happy ending" oracleprophecy? < 1368463550 264583 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ThatOtherPerson: whatever you have hashed, there ain't no password related to it. (probably) (hth) (and another hth, just to be sure) < 1368463555 721503 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1368463589 358802 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: btw, Google is one of the best MD5 hash crackers hth < 1368463606 308065 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: oh that might be. that necromancer girl was already quite seriously dead last i heard of her, so it seems unlikely (but of course in D&D not entirely impossible) that they would fight her again... < 1368463630 665712 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Well, this is all presumably a hallucination due to the runes. < 1368463645 474579 :coppro_!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1368463658 219714 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed. although it _could_ have been prophetic itself... < 1368463667 587747 :lifthras1ir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368463688 147398 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :As someone pointed out the eyepatch is on the wrong eye too, etc. Presumably they're all making this up in their head based on information they know. < 1368463694 628846 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1368463695 281993 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-31-103.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1368463727 885659 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :who, like, knows, man < 1368463732 252301 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-31-103.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1368463732 398433 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1368463734 784064 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca QUIT :Write error: Connection reset by peer < 1368463749 704750 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1368463751 443977 :ion!ion@heh.fi QUIT :Excess Flood < 1368463799 283100 :ion!ion@heh.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1368463849 675200 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1368464503 237287 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 QUIT :Quit: Later < 1368464759 818452 :nooodl!~nooodl@109.129.64.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: did copumpkin ever answer the "(co)products in the category of matrices" "riddle" < 1368464800 441378 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i answered it! < 1368464801 955593 :nooodl!~nooodl@109.129.64.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've been passivly wondering about it all day but i don't even know what a product is in CT other than "it's cartesian product, in Set" < 1368464803 789339 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then oerjan answered it < 1368464807 249899 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's m+n) < 1368464819 447868 :nooodl!~nooodl@109.129.64.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :woah cool < 1368464834 736149 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: Poulet! < 1368464836 36204 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1368464851 468320 :nooodl!~nooodl@109.129.64.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a coproduct; are they also m+n for matrices < 1368464869 400134 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1368464902 986028 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i realise now that this'd be a lot more obvious if i'd just thought of it as the category where the objects are R^n and the morphisms are linear maps < 1368464906 539430 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1368464952 492147 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :since the product there is just R^nR^m = R^(n+m) < 1368464976 147089 :nooodl_!~nooodl@109.129.64.76 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368465046 785099 :nooodl_!~nooodl@109.129.64.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The coproduct of the family {X_j} is an object X together with a collection of morphisms i_j : X_j → X" -- hmm < 1368465049 4951 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20130513-trip_to_work.flac (that time again) < 1368465049 353521 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1368465072 294354 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: should i be listening to these flacs you put up < 1368465084 824205 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl_: a coproduct is just [i need shachaf to link the diagram here] < 1368465087 241577 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not if you like things with a "point". < 1368465095 373144 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I hate points < 1368465111 108579 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-170-131.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1368465125 148245 :nooodl_!~nooodl@109.129.64.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you take coproducts of "families of objects in C" how can coproducts in that category be matrix addition < 1368465128 539841 :nooodl_!~nooodl@109.129.64.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the objects are nats < 1368465144 561619 :nooodl_!~nooodl@109.129.64.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(same question for products) < 1368465168 62436 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1368465180 271345 :nooodl_!~nooodl@109.129.64.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: do you mean this one http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Coproduct-03.svg < 1368465241 524531 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean the one he drew for me < 1368465253 104850 :nooodl_!~nooodl@109.129.64.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh oh < 1368465267 2917 :nooodl_!~nooodl@109.129.64.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ! this sounds good < 1368465316 919720 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-62.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1368465441 948533 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-205-44.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1368465447 208292 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-62.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1368465515 609909 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua QUIT :*.net *.split < 1368465515 755881 :nooodl!~nooodl@109.129.64.76 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1368465516 29098 :pikhq_!~pikhq@75-163-170-131.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1368465545 687720 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :This time the flac was done by taking magnitude of the vector given by the Android tablet's accelerometer over my half-an-hour bicycle trip from work, sampled at 15 Hz; making a magnitude spectrogram of that; and resynthesizing with a 16 kHz sampling rate, so that e.g. 1 kHz tone in the output would correspond to a ~1 Hz component in the input. < 1368465552 79926 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20130513-trip_to_work_slow.flac a slowed-down version.) < 1368465704 879421 :carado!~carado@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:221:63ff:fe9a:3747 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368465749 965975 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: cool < 1368465753 822022 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: my ears. they send strange signals to my brains. I'm being seriously weirded out by that file. < 1368465953 824006 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the annoying squeaks (okay, that doesn't really uniquely identify anything) might be occasions of actual peddling going on; the louder whistling around 22 seconds in a particular set of stairs; and the silent part at the end because there was this guy out in the yard I had to perform acts of "small talk" with. < 1368466092 830248 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bleh. squishy human to human interaction. < 1368466286 378224 :pikhq_!~pikhq@75-163-170-131.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1368466308 537898 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368466408 965872 :carado_!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368466450 994328 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: cool idea! < 1368466470 907061 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the coproduct in set is just the product, right < 1368466488 567525 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric < 1368466502 75665 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: no < 1368466506 869176 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :disjoint union < 1368466521 128085 :carado!~carado@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:221:63ff:fe9a:3747 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1368466528 571597 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Snowyowl: i vaguely want to enter the underhanded C contest but I don't have any great ideas and I've been putting off thinking hard about it < 1368466781 321609 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :In related news, the two (2) Android sensor log twibblets I tried were both kind of sucky. First one didn't work at all with the screen locked, and the second just logs a time-delta from previous measurement in rounded milliseconds instead of an absolute timestamp, which is kind of silly. (Plus the delta field for one entry says it came -431 milliseconds after the preceding one... but perhaps I hit some sort of a time warp.) < 1368466981 38079 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps you did < 1368466988 831333 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-62.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1368466991 25821 :comex`!~comex@ec2-23-22-255-183.compute-1.amazonaws.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1368466991 25893 :Snowyowl!4f8d542d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.141.84.45 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1368466991 229796 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1368466992 467317 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-170-131.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1368466992 910061 :quintopi1!~quintopia@74.117.159.204 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1368466994 736770 :ion!ion@heh.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1368466994 736972 :lifthras1ir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1368466994 985570 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.64 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1368466995 149092 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1368466995 149255 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly QUIT :*.net *.split < 1368466996 826055 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's go explore the world! see you guys later < 1368467016 199358 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, netsplit! I love those. < 1368467016 344907 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :talking about time warp < 1368467030 596265 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :except with the net instead of the time, and split instead of warp < 1368467051 756179 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :identical. they're just an affine transform from each other. < 1368467276 172403 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :talk about a pervasive split. < 1368467290 347281 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :by the sound of it, we lost Finland. < 1368467308 20614 :ion!ion@heh.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1368467357 566652 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-205-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And Scotland < 1368467405 566696 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-205-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It still amuses me that there is approximately 1 person who can write any decent Fueue programs, and he neither created the language nor any of the three known implementations < 1368467607 570733 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Woohoo, I'm on the right side of the netsplit this time < 1368467622 73532 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: that person being you? < 1368467632 839918 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-205-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ThatOtherPerson, no, I created the language < 1368467636 183875 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1368467643 973272 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1368467645 227036 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: then who is it? < 1368467645 373236 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-205-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And one of the implementations < 1368467665 187176 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-205-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The other two implementations were created by Arc_Koen, also known as Koen_ < 1368467672 201711 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-205-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The one known Fueue programmer is... < 1368467678 862548 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :dun dun DUN < 1368467680 354284 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-205-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*drumroll* < 1368467682 507547 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-205-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan < 1368467687 105796 :coppro_!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca NICK :coppro < 1368467692 303050 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :impressive < 1368467706 681276 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION googles Fueue < 1368467725 662133 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua JOIN :#esoteric < 1368467760 801942 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-205-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.esolangs.org/wiki/Fueue < 1368467926 463168 :comex`!~comex@ec2-23-22-255-183.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1368467926 463249 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-62.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1368467926 463327 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368467926 463402 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1368467926 463477 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1368468202 998945 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds a lot like befunge in less advance < 1368468216 84052 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368468229 310429 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-205-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's really not much like befunge at all < 1368468235 517000 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-205-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A lot closer to Underload < 1368468308 552111 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose if befunge could delete and expand cells... < 1368468353 821609 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course with that and 2d you'd soon get utter topological madness. < 1368468517 674672 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1368468554 288828 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: which is good. < 1368469166 550309 :isaac!~isaac@92-32-251-104.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1368469220 243564 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1368469220 389315 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1368469220 389463 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1368469220 723410 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-62.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1368469222 351170 :comex`!~comex@ec2-23-22-255-183.compute-1.amazonaws.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1368469222 351326 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1368469239 365834 :isaac!~isaac@92-32-251-104.tn.glocalnet.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1368469375 241140 :isaac!~isaac@92-32-251-104.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1368469454 617438 :isaac!~isaac@92-32-251-104.tn.glocalnet.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1368469575 332908 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it hubbard that keeps splitting? < 1368470022 431564 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.64 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368470080 558503 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1368470258 772535 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ironicaly, I'm on a Finnish server, and it's Finland that gets splitted off. < 1368470699 658475 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua JOIN :#esoteric < 1368471119 451630 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.64 QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1368471165 902936 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yesterday's episode of Veep was largely about Finland < 1368471231 619119 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything's about Finland. I think I may know why Canada's not existing enough. that country over there is stealing our existrons! < 1368471279 163035 :calamari!~calamari@99-204-155-86.pools.spcsdns.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1368472047 154332 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh good, the wiki now has a pointless boolfuck derivative < 1368472052 898813 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to go with all the pointless brainfuck derviatives < 1368472095 771141 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also appears to have no control flow < 1368472117 386765 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apart from a command for ending the program, which you apparently have to use < 1368472124 884230 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368472547 307884 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1368472581 351440 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-205-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover, I'm looking forward to your next Tumblr post < 1368472626 104434 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mee to, Taneb < 1368472627 477352 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mee to < 1368472637 614247 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-205-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've a strange feeling it's gonna be titled "Derpcode: a language whose title is both an overused and unfunny meme, and an understatement." < 1368472656 555429 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-205-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or something along those lines < 1368472691 640998 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey < 1368472698 100058 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :when's my next tumblr post < 1368472704 339134 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-253.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1368472704 545581 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-205-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, ask Sgeo < 1368472707 425389 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have a tumblerchaf < 1368472747 150429 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeseegan < 1368472751 967460 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, yessss < 1368472801 567650 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-205-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, I already follow you < 1368472809 237578 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-205-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, follow phantom-hoover.tumblr.com < 1368472821 709022 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You follow me? < 1368472828 412886 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-205-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1368472834 422437 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :stalker < 1368472836 708024 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-205-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have posted literally never < 1368472837 247985 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good. < 1368472842 659763 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Untrue. < 1368472854 483733 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I posted a post and then deleted it. hth < 1368472858 915398 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should follow me on Twitter! < 1368472862 876001 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-205-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe I do < 1368472867 931022 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-205-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except I'm never on Twitter < 1368472877 251122 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-205-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you connect your twitter to your tumblr < 1368472881 183595 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, you do. < 1368472886 372380 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're way ahead of me on these things. < 1368472907 139884 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-205-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover, what's your opinion on a/an before the letter 'h'? < 1368472924 755253 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean as in an historian? stupid < 1368472930 63802 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously 'an honour' though < 1368472932 976668 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-205-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Specifically, before the word "horrific" < 1368472968 276622 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :definitely a < 1368472975 814569 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-205-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thank you < 1368473005 621524 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also my upcoming blog post will feature the word preternatural crowbarred in somewhere < 1368473017 13759 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: if it sounds like a vowel, use "a", otherwise use "an" < 1368473017 309458 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-205-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's two words < 1368473027 4893 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-205-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ThatOtherPerson, I wanted Phantom__Hoover's opinion. < 1368473030 759392 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1368473034 420552 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-205-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you read his Tumblr? It's quite good < 1368473040 173386 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1368473049 292194 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :a nopinion worth having < 1368473062 533110 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? nopinion < 1368473064 654873 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :nopinion? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1368473067 168375 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo the n should go on the word after 'a' < 1368473094 640804 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :a nhonor < 1368473099 742696 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :a nhour < 1368473110 379876 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :a nelephant < 1368473141 677234 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a nunicorn < 1368473148 544876 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: I see that you are a big fan of... bricks < 1368473200 917557 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLKvponqV4Q&t=26 < 1368473233 421940 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rest of scene is also accurate < 1368473255 537502 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1368473297 929041 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :conspiracy theory: Phantom__Hoover is secretly Star651 < 1368473426 140287 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: are you a vacuum who happens to be a ghost or are you the ghost of Herbert Hoover? < 1368473558 964188 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls wisdom/[Pp]* < 1368473560 819322 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/parsley \ wisdom/phantom_hoover \ wisdom/phantom__hoover \ wisdom/phantom___hoover \ wisdom/phantom_______hoover \ wisdom/phantom__________hoover \ wisdom/phantom____________________hoover \ wisdom/php \ wisdom/pi \ wisdom/pie \ wisdom/pietbot \ wisdom/pizza < 1368473570 573434 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? phantom_hoover < 1368473572 355871 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom Michael Hoover is a true Scotsman and hatheist. < 1368473577 212713 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? phantom__hoover < 1368473579 190240 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover can't decide what an appropriate number of underscores is. < 1368473580 760578 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? parsley < 1368473582 681436 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Parsley is a girl in the South Seas. Persil est une demoiselle des Mers du Sud. < 1368473584 679371 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368473584 824993 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Client Quit < 1368473609 167483 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why the fungot did I go and edit this one. < 1368473620 49576 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Write error: Broken pipe < 1368473630 576734 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368473645 327881 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ThatOtherPerson, the former < 1368473652 701041 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the latter doesn't even make any sense < 1368473655 670470 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, okay < 1368473659 797183 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've always wondered < 1368473677 170773 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-205-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? pietbot < 1368473679 14527 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pietbot is the only thing that can defeat fungot. < 1368473684 408601 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :What, does Herbert Hoover not have a ghost? < 1368473699 738960 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-205-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why would Herbert Hoover's ghost be from Edinburgh < 1368473703 113917 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, so when that sword alone can't stop, you turn to pietbot? < 1368473707 594242 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :you never know < 1368473718 377166 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-205-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, unfortunately, pietbot is dead < 1368473756 504394 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pietbot alone can't stop either, obviously < 1368473798 749724 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1368473885 204746 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Holy Crap, this laptop PSU is 180 W according to the BIOS??? < 1368473886 88009 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, where's. < 1368473896 107742 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot? < 1368473898 681268 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot! < 1368473901 804751 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no! < 1368473917 213067 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1368473926 866286 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :These French freenode servers are so unrelliable. < 1368473940 160284 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or is it "unréliable" or something. < 1368473990 746845 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's fuck the french, fungot is eternal < 1368473991 56268 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: so far i have only read a foreword < 1368474002 77346 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah seems legit < 1368474008 87490 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :see, fungot doesn't need to read the rest < 1368474008 738105 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: pretty well. how to get my attn) is an easy way to to count zeros in a list < 1368474019 224050 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deep. < 1368474019 819613 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1368474019 965274 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc* iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1368474029 183671 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style enron < 1368474029 329178 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: enron (subset of the Enron email dataset) < 1368474030 31729 :pikhq_!~pikhq@75-163-170-131.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Why do you think the battery is recharged with fuel rods? :) < 1368474036 109759 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, ooh, i don't think i've seen this one < 1368474036 532223 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: of the spreadsheet you provided that we agreed on." " the fast. < 1368474099 748318 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_, I have a even larger power brick at work, for the docking station for this laptop < 1368474108 965026 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to check the wattage of that tomorrow < 1368474152 311103 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_, but yes this is for a power hungry monster of a Core i7 mobile workstation (quite small form factor though, 15.4" I think) < 1368474168 452053 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is just barely larger than my 15.4" thinkpad < 1368474180 243980 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slightly wider, so probably 16:9 even < 1368474214 639987 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn unréliable is French for «peu fiable». < 1368474218 638078 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1368474306 435077 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_, it is a pretty nice development machine though < 1368474314 353305 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_, with a 250 GB Intel SSD 520 < 1368474342 685154 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only machine I ever used that boots windows 7 quickly, and where windows 7 is actually responsive right after login < 1368474371 232022 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1368474375 983409 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Passover_margarine_shortage < 1368474490 303999 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :In addition to margarine, Tam Tam crackers were also in short supply for the 2008 Passover season.[2][5][6] < 1368474494 740302 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot's enron style is slightly lacking some preprocessing. < 1368474495 264436 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: davis., on an as needed. double-track ( or even different) directors to be " an independent on sunday. how do we get. phil gramm of texas." < 1368474774 526835 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Insightful. < 1368474810 107991 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368474810 973581 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-205-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, I enjoyed your Tumblr post < 1368474836 445053 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-205-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://phantom-hoover.tumblr.com/post/50360554295/derpcode-a-language-whose-title-is-both-an-overused < 1368474862 471900 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :can i have a tumblr post < 1368474869 890548 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-205-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, yeah, why not < 1368474876 368122 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1368474879 995265 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-205-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But Phantom_Hoover writes his himself! Why can't you! < 1368474903 736990 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :im not as good as Phantom_Hoover................................................................... < 1368474983 374489 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-205-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, maybe you can read Phantom_Hoover's and take inspiration < 1368475241 211538 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-205-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, Hexham has a town diary! Did you know? < 1368475244 651653 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-205-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.hexhamcommunity.net/pages/town-diary.php < 1368475348 110719 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-253.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i... don't think "haberdashery" means what Phantom_Hoover used it to mean < 1368475401 393586 :calamari!~calamari@99-204-155-86.pools.spcsdns.net QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1368475510 794131 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: i did not know < 1368475561 395724 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: you should clarify that it's a different sam hughes < 1368475574 796742 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Thanks for letting Sam Hughes live. < 1368475589 553449 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's the good Sam Hughes, not the evil qntm.org one.) < 1368475619 587004 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: also i suggest consulting with Phantom_Hoover wrt whether he thinks Derplang is actually any good or not < 1368475669 312277 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i have a feeling you may find the blog spontaneously deleted if you actually threaten to track down and kill someone :P < 1368475693 13058 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly JOIN :#esoteric < 1368475735 205218 :epicmonkey_!~epicmonke@188.134.41.112 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368475763 633992 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-253.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see elliott isn't familiar with tumblr < 1368475965 495540 :nooodl_!~nooodl@109.129.64.76 NICK :nooodl < 1368475981 229328 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1368476086 716761 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_global_rice_crisis < 1368476102 260515 :nooodl!~nooodl@109.129.64.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you guys know about how writing a derplang implementation that does the same thing as the lua one is almost impossible < 1368476120 275925 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-253.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's pretty impossible. < 1368476161 412928 :nooodl!~nooodl@109.129.64.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :part of it is the spec just being really bad, but, there's some crazy stuff!! like the "hidden "loadfile "command""" < 1368476352 432313 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-253.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also hey i thought it was derp/code/, there are two different dumb languages here < 1368476367 439392 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :umh, is that ``hidden ``loadfile ``command''''''? < 1368476396 769086 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it's «"hidden "loadfile "commad"""» hth < 1368476410 111979 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, I see < 1368476427 499891 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er. < 1368476428 567045 :Tod-Autojoined!~Tod@50-198-177-185-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1368476431 955184 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/ad/and/ < 1368476434 222488 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION sighs. < 1368476466 258585 :nooodl!~nooodl@109.129.64.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks shachaf < 1368476469 318625 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-253.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hidden loadfile comonad < 1368476487 803407 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: seems like a bigger deal < 1368476487 948892 :TodPunk!~Tod@50-198-177-185-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1368476492 303256 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: "loandfile"? < 1368476492 449061 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote commonad < 1368476492 630783 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf says: [comonad] Not to be confused with edwardk's effort to standardize all the common operators for automatic differentiation, "commonad". < 1368476513 243682 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i stopped caring about regexp golfing. or correctness. hth < 1368476542 247763 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Icelandic_lorry_driver_protests < 1368476559 789664 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan oh, there are some cubes with an image on each face, or a logo on every square, and in that case the centers can end up wrong if you solve it the normal way < 1368476560 366717 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1368476581 287307 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :09:01 ok that picture rationale makes it make sense < 1368476595 31626 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-253.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :2008 was quite a year, huh < 1368476646 634703 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok then < 1368476667 697718 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Irish_pork_crisis < 1368476704 505810 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-253.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :" However, it has been estimated that over the course of the next century, approximately 20% of the Irish population may see a reduction in life expectancy by as much as 5 years due to the contamination of pork" uh shit < 1368476718 763293 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :can i play < 1368476726 731045 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_United_States_salmonellosis_outbreak < 1368476730 230636 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Chinese_milk_scandal < 1368476736 664306 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1368476754 861088 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1368476897 359721 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-253.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"A number of criminal prosecutions occurred, with two people being executed," that's a bit weird < 1368476904 714268 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-205-44.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1368476906 810507 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Canadian_listeriosis_outbreak < 1368476918 330456 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368476918 476383 :comex`!~comex@ec2-23-22-255-183.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1368476920 172867 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1368476954 462505 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, were they actually responsible < 1368477014 780716 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-253.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1368477045 379753 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: china < 1368477187 334137 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-253.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's still the wackiest thing how china is considered communist by people < 1368477195 583440 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-253.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean this is straight out of The Jungle < 1368477301 555070 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1368477312 472580 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the US was also involved in massive copyright infringement in the 19th century < 1368477315 770779 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :counterfeit goods etc < 1368477327 725380 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :same shit different day < 1368477546 935819 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1368477823 617058 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh, pretty sure no one except the chinese communists think china is communist < 1368477840 974587 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-253.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd be surprised! < 1368477943 202596 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :On the other hand, communism has never been all that well defined anyway < 1368477956 915107 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has U-Tube gotten rid of the "view the playlist" option that would just view a separate list page of the playlist, instead of viewing one of the videos and a playlist sidebar that's too narrow to show untruncated titles? < 1368477957 695298 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since about 1990, china might be taken as the working definition < 1368477992 54998 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(At least IIRC formerly the small-print "view full playlist" link in the search results window went to that sort of separate list page.) < 1368478007 46958 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :last time I used that option fizzie, that option was still there < 1368478008 96723 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1368478028 663317 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The link is still there, but it just goes to the last video of the playlist, for me, now. < 1368478088 842410 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :youtube-dl downloads playlists < 1368478145 381744 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, the full contents, or just... makes some sort of playlist files? (The whole point of wanting the separate list page is that I don't want to look at *all* of this crap.) < 1368478231 269643 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google youtube-dl --help < 1368478232 367099 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://rg3.github.io/youtube-dl/download.html < 1368478232 513025 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: youtube-dl: Download Page < 1368478300 477474 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"youtube-dl --help" suggests the playlist features are for downloading all (or from A to B, or matching/not matching a given regex, or up to N) videos in a playlist. < 1368478344 959102 :nooodl_!~nooodl@109.129.64.76 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368478359 667143 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric : -e, --get-title simulate, quiet but print title < 1368478435 904973 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't figure out what URL to pass to youtube-dl in order to make it download a playlist, actually. < 1368478509 406835 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Presumably the old separate list page would've worked, but if I could go there, I wouldn't need youtube-dl at all; youtube-dl -e of where I end up with the "view full playlist" link just prints the title of the last video. < 1368478553 948740 :nooodl!~nooodl@109.129.64.76 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1368478583 155595 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can find playlist links. Perhaps you can try turning javascript off. < 1368478624 280603 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a 2×2×2 cube as well < 1368478630 802252 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is a good first eso lang to build an interpreter/compiler for? extent of my knowledge is an undergrad compilers course. i don't want to do whitespace (having already looked at the code for an interpreter) or brainfuck (too overdone?) < 1368478680 803588 :pikhq_!~pikhq@75-163-170-131.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmmm. < 1368478697 425828 :pikhq_!~pikhq@75-163-170-131.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Intercal? :) < 1368478702 626385 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think most esolangs don't really exercise compilers knowledge because they're designed as flat sequences of instructions < 1368478708 197254 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: that's probably a bad idea < 1368478716 40078 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :befunge? < 1368478718 230238 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Glass? < 1368478722 319428 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :parsing INTERCAL is a nightmare < 1368478723 839794 :pikhq_!~pikhq@75-163-170-131.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: That's even worse. < 1368478727 673090 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :eodermdrome? < 1368478728 638305 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: I know. < 1368478743 768542 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :befunge-93 is easy to interpret, at least. < 1368478745 734416 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I think serious answers would be better than joke answers < 1368478752 206108 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Glass is no joke! < 1368478760 430652 :pikhq_!~pikhq@75-163-170-131.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, befunge-93 can be interpreted in an afternoon. < 1368478797 383311 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe an optimized binary from some variant of OISC could be interesting. < 1368478814 865712 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a tracing JIT for a typical esolang would be cool < 1368478820 806107 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, glass is actually a sensible answer < 1368478860 282393 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course it somewhat assumes that one likes Glass. < 1368478860 679678 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuck has nearly unlimited scope for compiler optimization < 1368478884 539253 :pikhq_!~pikhq@75-163-170-131.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, if you're interested in optimization Brainfuck actually isn't terrible. < 1368478887 673338 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most brainfuck compilers are limited to trivial things like run-length encoding < 1368478888 465036 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll look into some of those, thanks < 1368478902 118886 :pikhq_!~pikhq@75-163-170-131.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nontrivial Brainfuck optimization is an actual challenge. < 1368479008 168538 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Brainfuck, where RLE encoding can be an optimisation < 1368479017 582790 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Research into brainfuck optimization techniques may also yield practical results; imagine the bfjoust language extensions < 1368479053 51738 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what exactly do you think "practical" mean? < 1368479057 793059 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if x86 chips handle consecutive nops < 1368479071 916178 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Research into brainfuck optimization has yielded several stepping stones on the road to practical interstellar travel and curing various diseases. < 1368479100 278667 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-253.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :demyelinating disease? consider it Brain Fucked (TM) by esolang enterprises llc < 1368479107 211585 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen: antinonatheoretical < 1368479110 354888 :pikhq_!~pikhq@75-163-170-131.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: No, but x86 has a number of recommended nop sequences. < 1368479114 242693 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: you don't want to fiddle with the nops. < 1368479119 712900 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you implying the long-awaited space lift is gonna be built out of stones? < 1368479129 18743 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and programmed in brainfuck < 1368479129 164362 :pikhq_!~pikhq@75-163-170-131.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that you can pad code with a wide number of lengths whilst taking 1 cycle. < 1368479167 17415 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Advanced shellcode acceleration < 1368479201 665600 :pikhq_!~pikhq@75-163-170-131.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nop slides tend to prefer 0x90. :) < 1368479234 245725 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Multibyte nops where every suffix is still a nop sounds like a "practical" shellcode acceleration technique. < 1368479237 114800 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that question won me a raspberry in a not-quite-sober jeopardy! session. < 1368479242 777854 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Multi-byte nops are good if you want to change the instruction at some point to some other multibyte instruction < 1368479247 92738 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :trust x86 to come up with so many creative ways to do nothing < 1368479257 206741 :pikhq_!~pikhq@75-163-170-131.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I' < 1368479265 830745 :pikhq_!~pikhq@75-163-170-131.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I'm pretty sure x86 doesn't have those though. < 1368479286 390990 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the long nops are often built with unnecessary prefix bytes < 1368479290 771088 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so a suffix of that would also be a nop < 1368479294 315415 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but probably not down to 1 byte < 1368479298 695424 :pikhq_!~pikhq@75-163-170-131.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. Neat. < 1368479313 869047 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's only prefixes and 0x90, it should work I guess < 1368479328 658344 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :modrm is a suffix, unfortunately < 1368479342 88261 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: Intel's recommended 2-byte nop is 66 NOP, for which the suffix is a nop. < 1368479388 622865 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The longer ones don't, at a glance, seem to have that property. < 1368479404 849123 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(They don't have prefixes; it's more about dummy operands.) < 1368479419 819835 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Don't know if AMD's recommended NOPs are more prefixy.) < 1368479450 66872 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://lxr.linux.no/linux+v3.9.2/arch/x86/include/asm/nops.h < 1368479460 351813 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be sort of interesting to calculate how many possible nop instructions that x86 has < 1368479477 967415 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :mov eax, ax < 1368479480 118633 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :mov eax, eax < 1368479497 995145 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"mov eax, ax" doesn't assemble does it < 1368479505 129520 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shouldn't < 1368479509 422814 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-253.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :different things can be nops in different contexts, can't they? < 1368479513 663468 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also mov eax, eax isn't a nop in 64 bit < 1368479524 951285 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-253.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like you could play with the flags before a cmp or whatever < 1368479531 530151 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com NICK :[-{|\_}-] < 1368479531 799988 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: to make it easy let's only count the ones that are always nops < 1368479548 74549 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-253.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :booooooooooooooriiiiiiiiiiing < 1368479583 458318 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :None of the nops.h lists seem to correspond with (this version of) Intel's optimization manual. < 1368479584 287509 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps you could take instructions that are >90% likely to be nops for a random context < 1368479603 202404 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-253.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kind of a pointless criterion, don't you think < 1368479626 318063 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :On ARM, 0x00000000 is and r0, r0, r0, which is the standard nop < 1368479637 626287 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's handy < 1368479641 351505 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how often strncpy is used on ARM < 1368479654 253948 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hear 0 isn't a nop on x86 for some deliberate reason?? < 1368479677 669054 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe they didn't plan for a nop, and started assigning opcodes at 0 < 1368479680 669026 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-253.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"fuck zeroes" - intel engineers < 1368479691 799922 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also: "The other NOPs have no special hardware support. Their input and output registers are interpreted by the hardware. Therefore, a code generator should arrange to use the register containing the oldest value as input, so that the NOP will dispatch and release RS resources at the earliest possible opportunity." < 1368479698 410398 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 is ... add? < 1368479700 573488 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not that you'd expect a kernel to do that. < 1368479715 174327 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :0000 add [rax], al < 1368479723 317753 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :udcli is the best < 1368479729 838962 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :udcli? < 1368479739 401298 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google udcli < 1368479740 298540 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://udis86.sourceforge.net/ < 1368479740 444138 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: udis86 disassembler library for x86 < 1368479742 290204 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ADD r/m8, r8, more generally. < 1368479762 151023 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1368479782 169308 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it's a disassembler, I thought it was an instruction < 1368479796 418390 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :%rip, %(lambdabot) < 1368479814 880335 :ellipsis753!~ellipsis@cpc1-brig10-0-0-cust956.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1368479825 954998 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-253.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously there should be an architecture with a disass instruction < 1368479848 169376 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric : Also: "The other NOPs have no special hardware support. Their input and output registers are interpreted by the hardware. Therefore, a code generator should arrange to use the register containing the oldest value as input, so that the NOP will dispatch and release RS resources at the earliest possible opportunity." <-- yes, but some specific ones actually have hardware support these days < 1368479849 557693 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :VAX (?) had an execute-from-register instruction < 1368479851 513892 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a datass instruction < 1368479858 586648 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-253.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn straight < 1368479860 285627 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Read the Intel Manual, it has a list of them < 1368479869 540604 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: That was a quote from the Intel manual. < 1368479870 215296 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Intel Optimization manual maybe < 1368479874 253867 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-253.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: xec? i wanna say that was pdp < 1368479880 369497 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: The Intel Optimization manual, in particular. < 1368479883 570913 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-253.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or was that execute from memory < 1368479903 344831 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, really? I remember reading that it optimises away the registry usage when scheduling < 1368479908 253939 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was it AMD that did that then? < 1368479924 521519 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: S/390 has a similar one as well, I think it does something like combine an instruction in memory with immediate operand values stored in a register < 1368479925 917152 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Only for XCHG EAX, EAX. Though this is not the latest copy; maybe it's changed. < 1368479936 528633 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Try to observe the following NOP generation priority: * Select the smallest number of NOPs and pseudo-NOPs to provide the desired padding. * Select NOPs that are least likely to execute on slower execution unit clusters. * Select the register arguments of NOPs to reduce dependencies." must be loads of joy to be a compiler developer. < 1368479945 558233 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, okay, so it does it for that specific one at least? < 1368479948 211067 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Now I'm mildly curious to see what GCC's nop-padding code looks like.) < 1368479949 359939 :ellipsis753!~ellipsis@cpc1-brig10-0-0-cust956.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, I was wondering if anyone managed to make a two instruction language that's semi-turing complete? I've seen a few 3-instruction languages but non that require only 2. < 1368479960 760569 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: That's why the quote started with "the *other* NOPs". < 1368479964 341281 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-253.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :SK calculus? < 1368479964 829372 :[-{|\_}-]!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com NICK :tswett < 1368479966 821481 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-253.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fsvo "instruction" < 1368479966 967222 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1368479973 633804 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've only seen gcc pad with 0x90 < 1368479978 399818 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: plus various single combinator bases < 1368479990 155405 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: I'm reasonably sure it knows about the longer nops. < 1368479991 236554 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet, I seen it pad with mixed stuff < 1368479997 94275 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-253.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, SK is the easiest to remember though < 1368479997 437057 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :pads don't need to be nops < 1368480012 520357 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-253.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ellipsis753: oh, and OISC, obviously < 1368480015 709391 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :just valid instructions to prevent "oops there are invalid instructions here, let's go slowly" < 1368480047 309200 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :ellipsis753: There is a one-instruction turing complete language < 1368480097 187366 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :How many registers does an OISC need for completeness? < 1368480116 530902 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-253.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought oisc with subleq only used memory. < 1368480118 577735 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/UaOF <-- that's quite the NOP. < 1368480132 957712 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"data32 data32 data32 data32 nopw %cs:0x0(%rax,%rax,1)", 14 bytes. < 1368480137 260126 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1368480144 757873 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is a maximum valid instruction length though < 1368480146 789164 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, what does data32 mean? < 1368480148 636975 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :nopw? boring! it should say what the instruction is < 1368480152 117300 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: how much memory, then < 1368480161 973053 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: The operand size override prefix. < 1368480162 165991 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: it's an operand size override < 1368480169 943134 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1368480177 356259 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :That you can repeat like that? < 1368480179 402308 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh < 1368480188 183727 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-253.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh... hm. < 1368480197 772885 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-253.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How many brainfuck cells are needed again? < 1368480198 401509 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, but doesn't the operand size prefix give you 16-bit operand size in long mode? < 1368480234 909475 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: I don't think they have more than one name for it. But not sure. < 1368480272 267951 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, 3 of infinite size iirc? Or infinite one-bit < 1368480274 916088 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :With -m32 it decides to go with two seven-byte nops; lea 0x0(%esi,%eiz,1),%esi; lea 0x0(%edi,%eiz,1),%edi < 1368480288 157031 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is %eiz again? < 1368480288 537295 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Clearly it's thinking about the registers, given that it's used different regs for those two.) < 1368480297 811744 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :dummy register to specify instruction encoding? < 1368480304 159154 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't use one-bit memory with an OISC because you wouldn't be able to address most of it. < 1368480320 504130 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, I would guess it is the register iz extended to 32 bits? < 1368480328 779488 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I never heard of an iz register < 1368480329 944037 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :so eh < 1368480330 942482 :pikhq_!~pikhq@75-163-170-131.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: There's no such register. < 1368480333 743538 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Yes, it's gas's silly name for a zero in that context. < 1368480340 183479 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1368480352 22393 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably relates to the hilaribad libopcodes API < 1368480364 244940 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they can't just write 0x0(%esi,0,1) < 1368480379 241249 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: Poulet! < 1368480385 345237 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1368480395 333069 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :a hysterical raisin then < 1368480401 328368 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or (%esi + 1) < 1368480420 571253 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or in fact that is just (%esi) < 1368480426 925052 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 + 0 + 1 * %esi? < 1368480443 145688 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :%esi + 1 * 0 + 0 < 1368480464 957849 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the index is always a register, I think < 1368480465 754308 :ellipsis753!~ellipsis@cpc1-brig10-0-0-cust956.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok. I was a little vague but I think the answer may be that there is non yet in the form I am looking for. A language which requires no registers and just two a program and data tape. Two instructions that take no arguments and do not rely on anything on the program tape for meaning. NOP counts as an instruction. Sort of turing complete as in must be able to do any calculation in finite memory (so doesn't need to < 1368480465 900095 :ellipsis753!~ellipsis@cpc1-brig10-0-0-cust956.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : be able to allocate more). Does not need input/output and memory mapping seems like cheating. Does that make sense and does such a language exist? I was thinking of trying to make something out of only analog components and tape that could interprete one of these simple languages. < 1368480475 945499 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1368480501 244574 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sad grownup realisation of the week: letting taneb assume my identity to make violent threats to random people over the internet may not be a great move < 1368480502 365207 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-253.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"able to do any calculation in finite memory" isn't true of turing machines~ < 1368480517 992570 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The padding depends on the architecture, of course. If I tell it to do -march=barcelona (AMD thing), it aligns functions to 32 bytes with two data32 data32 data32 data32 data32 nopw %cs:0x0(%rax,%rax,1) instructions. < 1368480522 222551 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're describing a "bounded-storage machine" < 1368480532 802281 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1368480533 11975 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: you're a grownup now? welcome to boringland < 1368480560 503244 :ellipsis753!~ellipsis@cpc1-brig10-0-0-cust956.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, those look cool. Although ideally I'd like to have no registers. < 1368480585 393402 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-253.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :SK doesn't have any registers. bam solved < 1368480607 601169 :ellipsis753!~ellipsis@cpc1-brig10-0-0-cust956.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, Ok. Sort of turing complete as in forth. < 1368480608 156766 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-253.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure what you mean by not relying on the tape for meaning < 1368480619 808254 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about the 2,3 thing that ais proved TC? < 1368480644 385677 :ellipsis753!~ellipsis@cpc1-brig10-0-0-cust956.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, What is that? < 1368480648 295452 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ellipsis753, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2-3_turing_machine < 1368480678 854142 :ellipsis753!~ellipsis@cpc1-brig10-0-0-cust956.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, I mean, nothing like "Read the next 5 bits to work out what this single instruction does. Then jump 6 bits ahead". < 1368480681 367905 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :guy from in here proved it TC < 1368480685 504258 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ais523) < 1368480743 536714 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Boringland: http://us.123rf.com/400wm/400/400/kadmy/kadmy1008/kadmy100800061/7565319-huge-construction-equipment-metal-bore-for-earth-drilling-machine.jpg < 1368480757 341464 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-253.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ellipsis753: Would you consider an increment instruction to violate that? I mean, the state of the tape afterwards relies on the state of the tape before its execution. < 1368480817 702704 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Also I don't think it's all *that* sanctioned to put in redundant prefixes; it just works. From what I recall, the Intel manual doesn't quite explicitly forbid it, but doesn't allow it either. (The chapter on instruction format says "it is only useful to include up to one prefix code from each of the four groups", but doesn't say what happens if you decide to be not useful. Possibly some of the figures also imply an upper limit.) < 1368480946 524441 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does explicitly say "use of repeat prefixes [that is, rep] -- with other [than string / I/O] instructions is reserved; such use may cause unpredictable behaviour", which makes that rep ret thing a bit funny. < 1368480948 703282 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the maximum instruction length is 15 bytes < 1368480977 556511 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, heh < 1368481005 6606 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, even with AVX and all that modern stuff? < 1368481041 616952 :ellipsis753!~ellipsis@cpc1-brig10-0-0-cust956.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, increment instruction as to increase a number on the data tape? No I only have issues with an instruction relying on other instructions. (on the program tape). However ideally if the data tape only contained bits it would be a lot easier to make. < 1368481063 164337 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not positive < 1368481065 360905 :ellipsis753!~ellipsis@cpc1-brig10-0-0-cust956.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, That's interesting, however surely it requires 3 instructions (and 2 states?) < 1368481073 741888 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :15 has at least been one of the limits. < 1368481075 443718 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm true < 1368481105 988720 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :15 is still mentioned in the manuals that are new enough to have AVX < 1368481119 553013 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but that doesn't rule out an exception for them) < 1368481134 447514 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The optimization manual says, on the topic of the Pentium M's decoder, that the "first decoder is capable of decoding one macroinstruction -- it can handle any number of bytes up to the maximum of 15." But that's very circumstancial evidence. < 1368481241 381432 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shame there's no 256-bit immediates in AVXy stuff. < 1368481250 461609 :epicmonkey_!~epicmonke@188.134.41.112 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1368481264 957812 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.112 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368481278 691978 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-253.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ellipsis753: how do you distinguish "other instructions" from say numbers < 1368481347 684858 :ellipsis753!~ellipsis@cpc1-brig10-0-0-cust956.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, the program tape would normally be read only and never be read other than for the current instruction being run currently. It should not store numbers. < 1368481358 138432 :ellipsis753!~ellipsis@cpc1-brig10-0-0-cust956.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :However this doesn't really matter. < 1368481377 511673 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-253.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it kind of does, for your question you'll need a very well understood notion of "instruction" < 1368481420 3194 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-253.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example, with the 2-3 machine, you're apparently counting each symbol as an instruction, whereas with other m-n machines you'd count them just as data < 1368481519 962228 :nooodl_!~nooodl@109.129.64.76 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1368481543 749857 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/PSgf "ah, screw it, I give up", says GCC. < 1368481617 677916 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :keep trying, maybe there's a magic align-functions value that will give you an awesome easter egg < 1368481726 912867 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, what about 48? < 1368481751 654837 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :or 24? < 1368481773 274774 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it only accepts powers of two, it doesn't even bother aligning otherwise < 1368481777 96706 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: It has a different meaning for non-power-of-two sizes. < 1368481779 737021 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :istr that functions in the linux kernel aren't aligned; this was a problem because ksplice can't patch a function with fewer than 5 bytes of code < 1368481811 747488 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, oh? < 1368481826 169052 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there were some cases where we would hot-patch a function to do nothing, but we'd add some NOPs in case we had to patch it again < 1368481842 887727 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, olsner: -falign-functions=24 means "align to 32 bytes but only if you can do it by skipping 23 bytes or less". < 1368481849 689043 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, you were involved in ksplice? < 1368481863 797525 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, lol what < 1368481868 213551 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, try 128 then? < 1368481870 977430 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-253.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: is that ever needed < 1368481880 928987 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: No idea, but that's what it means. < 1368481893 125145 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: yeah I worked there for the 8 months before it was bought by oracle < 1368481896 905005 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"-falign-functions=n: Align the start of functions to the next power-of-two greater than n, skipping up to n bytes. For instance, -falign-functions=32 aligns functions to the next 32-byte boundary, but -falign-functions=24 aligns to the next 32-byte boundary only if this can be done by skipping 23 bytes or less." < 1368481919 329805 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :rough guess, some alignment speed vs space trade off control < 1368481925 305606 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :definitely my favorite job ever < 1368481925 597749 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, ah < 1368481926 90874 :ellipsis753!~ellipsis@cpc1-brig10-0-0-cust956.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wikipedia also considers them instructions "executes the instructions in the following table". Unless I'm mistaken. But yes, you're correct. I'm being bad at explaining myself. Sorry. I guess I'm currently thinking of trying to implement something like minifuck (http://esolangs.org/wiki/Minifuck) and wondered if anyone had managed to get it down to just two commands. < 1368481943 809340 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's funny is that then I worked with mostly the same people on a different project (web startup) and it was a bad fit and I left < 1368481959 95473 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1368481962 727775 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good night. < 1368481973 893146 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought that the job was all about the people but now I'm more cynical < 1368481985 579814 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus it wasn't *exactly* the same people, some of them went elsewhere and they brought in others < 1368481997 15460 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems odd for people working on ksplice to go work on a web startup < 1368482003 419304 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1368482018 888248 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the k in ksplice stands for kmc < 1368482029 591994 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's way more money in webapps than in technically complex computer systems work < 1368482044 560960 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and like, they'd already done the latter, so why not try something different < 1368482049 782440 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is what I thought as well, but I didn't like it < 1368482059 747397 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there actually way more money in cloning IRC < 1368482064 212849 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like don't enterprises and shit care about ksplice < 1368482069 147882 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :theoretically < 1368482088 76478 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shrug, their target price for selling the new company is way more than what ksplice sold for < 1368482102 236616 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's still a long way from that happening < 1368482109 64877 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the goal was to sell the company? not to make whatever you made? < 1368482109 892710 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this business model where you start off by planning to get bought out...... < 1368482116 276166 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you can't make a profit because you have no actual business model < 1368482125 525910 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk startups < 1368482126 325327 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well ksplice was making a profit < 1368482136 421014 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :though 'making a profit' is pretty arbitrary < 1368482138 656557 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-253.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, maoist revolutionary software developer < 1368482145 901280 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you have revenue, you can put it in the bank or you can spend it on growth < 1368482158 985156 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be idiotic if a small company planning on rapid growth had a lot of cash in the bank < 1368482178 311210 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so even when startups have a reliable revenue stream, they tend to be just-under-profitable < 1368482229 324617 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I agree that companies with no business model which are just getting bought on hype are dumb < 1368482235 77897 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's a more specific case than just "not profitable" < 1368482278 690502 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-201-210.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1368482302 231212 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-253.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1368482304 701682 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-201-210.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1368482334 219766 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-210.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ELLIOTT FOR PRESIDENT < 1368482339 980019 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :getting bought is a popular option now because the regulatory burden of an IPO is a lot more onerous after the Sarbanes-Oxley Act < 1368482346 900012 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-210.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :president of maoism < 1368482359 874521 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'll recall that in the '90's dot com boom there were a lot of IPOs of just-formed companies < 1368482366 441022 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and not so much in the current bubble < 1368482372 337403 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well elliott won't recall because he was an infant then < 1368482374 452963 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"you'll recall" < 1368482375 85934 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1368482401 402459 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway people do also start companies with the intent to keep them small and make a steady stream of revenue and have a fun job and be your own boss and whatever < 1368482407 305949 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes called "lifestyle business" < 1368482409 23551 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :dumb term I know < 1368482413 557152 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's not typically what's meant by "startup" < 1368482422 219998 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: The struct held his beloved integer in his strong, protecting arms, his eyes like sapphire orbs staring into her own. "W-will you... Will you union me?" < 1368482428 35537 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo, capitalism < 1368482443 978091 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"startup" implies rapid growth < 1368482446 49834 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-210.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is lifestyle capitalism like lifestyle anarchism (except you get money) < 1368482466 356470 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm no fan of paul graham as you all know, but he does know this world and i thought http://www.paulgraham.com/growth.html was a pretty good essay < 1368482531 770898 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Paul is such a lispie < 1368482533 446055 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, growth? why would you do anything for growth? < 1368482552 615287 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you can get rich < 1368482567 864270 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you own 20% of a business and it grows by a factor of 1000 < 1368482570 616388 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you are rich as fuck < 1368482577 310232 :Tod-Autojoined!~Tod@50-198-177-185-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1368482594 73128 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-210.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like kmc's hero, paul graham. < 1368482598 908177 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lolol < 1368482612 476241 :Tod-Autojoined!~Tod@50-198-177-185-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1368482617 120818 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see, I guess that motives the hell out of some people < 1368482628 808607 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :money is useful < 1368482639 741617 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no matter what your goals are in life, having a bunch of money tends to help < 1368482678 236994 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i'm younger than you so i probably have longer to accomplish all your goals, therefore give me all of your money < 1368482686 674994 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :money doesn't buy happiness but it buys the freedom to pursue happiness, and the power to help others in ways you can't directly help them < 1368482729 292355 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty sure money actually does buy a lot of happiness < 1368482759 432024 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :some money does, more money than that doesn't (or does but much less efficiently) < 1368482766 633870 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :people tend to assume that the pursuit of money implies the pursuit of shitty status symbols like a fancy car < 1368482769 757033 :pikhq_!~pikhq@75-163-170-131.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't buy happiness, but it sure as hell permits it. < 1368482773 263623 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's your money, you can spend it on what you find worthwhile < 1368482892 637134 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :one could argue that "money doesn't buy happiness" is propaganda that the ruling / capital-owning class uses to dull the economic self-interest of the working class < 1368483135 709045 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :back later < 1368483211 227833 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, the point I forgot to make was that the goal of your startup (grow it and sell it) was probably the reason it was so crappy compared to previous projects with the same people < 1368483233 95564 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: should i see the film _The Bridge Over the River Kwai_ < 1368483244 356893 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-210.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1368483253 347791 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you sure < 1368483263 548210 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-210.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1368483270 895664 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, wait, it's only playing this thu-fri anyway < 1368483283 844299 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there any film I could ask you about that you wouldn't say I should watch? < 1368483305 199662 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-210.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, like... Avatar. < 1368483315 132133 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :A Navatar. < 1368483368 985208 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: How about I see it if you see a nother film? < 1368483375 549161 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-210.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What film? < 1368483387 422227 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um, I'm not sure. < 1368483401 126182 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-210.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, get back to me when you've made your decision. < 1368483410 604372 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :_Funny Bones_? < 1368483444 475656 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-210.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BODk0NzYzMzc4OF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwOTQyNTUyMQ@@._V1_SY317_CR2,0,214,317_.jpg looks p. intense < 1368483480 210515 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i watched it on someone's recommendation and enjoyed it < 1368483487 135032 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not the same sort of film as that other film, though < 1368483729 935040 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.112 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1368484053 671455 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: don t like it?? < 1368484207 506602 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-210.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't like what < 1368484212 95666 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the film < 1368484221 982374 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-210.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know, i haven't seen it < 1368484235 499145 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you aren't going to, either? < 1368484397 114692 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-210.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, is it your decision < 1368484410 978934 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1368484415 695988 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I see this film you'll see that one? < 1368484665 976489 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-210.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose. < 1368484689 886116 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suspect i might be getting the better end of that deal < 1368484701 278460 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but ok < 1368484718 539141 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends on which kinds of movies you both enjoy < 1368484765 182701 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :bridge over the river kwai is probably "better", but funny bones looks funnier < 1368484776 77240 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hate comedy hth < 1368484795 501923 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you should love the bridge over the river kwai < 1368484807 635379 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(unless that has comedy in it) < 1368484846 351229 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you been to ikea at closing time? they play the theme from that movie to get people to speed up to the checkout < 1368484865 560054 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1368484871 465179 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've only been in sweden for two days in my life < 1368484874 821949 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no time to go to ikea hth < 1368484885 951506 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ikea exists everywhere, hth < 1368484896 574142 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :like adjunctions? hth < 1368484946 515331 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-210.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't understand what that "hth" could possibly mean. < 1368484975 70993 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: it means hth, hth < 1368485000 834701 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: listen to olsner hth < 1368485071 429355 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Hyperbolic tange here"? < 1368485075 682737 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll just go hth myself into bed < 1368485086 403480 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-210.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tmi! < 1368485096 146631 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: explain hth. < 1368485096 356119 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: if we do not as a matter of the last few years. < 1368485108 115266 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Okay. < 1368485108 361124 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: by the time we tried to keep that in mind that the true costs. < 1368485416 924068 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-216-99.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1368485422 87045 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-216-99.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1368485436 263248 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-216-99.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1368485491 672460 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-210.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1368485495 532017 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-216-99.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1368485708 723461 :JesseH!~JesseH@ip72-210-71-131.mc.at.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1368485709 171332 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask mnoqy should i see Bike's film < 1368485714 544098 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no, no lambdabot < 1368485809 543507 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1368485818 678863 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :My e key is, uh, springy? < 1368485828 602380 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's why I get double 'e's. < 1368485835 86306 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ask mnoqy Should shachaf see Bike's film? < 1368485835 232349 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I'll get right on that. (Not.) < 1368485847 717753 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-216-99.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't be an asshole, fungot. < 1368485848 274168 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: on the first i finally, we came to the transactions of others we hoped it would have the time to get to the last two and a one of a/ a program of the messages that have the public. < 1368485857 1207 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ask qqqq < 1368485857 147237 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I'll get right on that. (Not.) < 1368485876 477827 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^show ask < 1368485876 623387 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Yeah, I'll get right on that. (Not.))S < 1368485880 637813 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I get press it with a particular strength. I get two 'e's. < 1368485993 800090 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@type (not.) < 1368486066 916130 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1368487324 944499 :augur!~augur@c-69-138-251-193.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1368487419 709257 :augur!~augur@c-69-138-251-193.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1368487776 273977 :ellipsis753!~ellipsis@cpc1-brig10-0-0-cust956.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1368488184 906416 :augur!~augur@c-69-138-251-193.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1368488217 354024 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-31-103.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1368488255 810132 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-31-103.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1368488255 955937 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1368488255 956075 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1368488442 1035 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368488497 58674 :augur!~augur@c-69-138-251-193.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1368488886 954111 :augur!~augur@c-69-138-251-193.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric