< 1369181092 157644 :Regis_!~Regis@187.65.216.203 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369181159 457733 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-175-59.mpls.qwest.net PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1369181168 909463 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-175-59.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1369181239 526046 :GOMADWarrior!~Regis@187.65.216.203 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1369182138 157531 :Regis_!~Regis@187.65.216.203 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1369182258 875695 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :750 hours of free computing time a month? < 1369182270 464159 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I'm not particularly likely to exceed that for projects like that < 1369182349 950473 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :who has? < 1369182373 150994 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-175-59.mpls.qwest.net NICK :the < 1369182384 678213 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :750 hours is a whole month < 1369182418 152859 :the!~TeruFSX@65-128-175-59.mpls.qwest.net PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1369182440 544926 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"AWS Free Tier includes 750 hours of Linux or Windows Micro Instances each month for one year. To stay within the Free Tier, use only EC2 Micro instances." < 1369182443 203085 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, for one year < 1369182447 600333 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1369182460 439704 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what I'm using for IRC < 1369182476 163788 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are you going to do when the year is up? < 1369182480 476770 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno < 1369182486 832987 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :he'll die < 1369182487 443638 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip < 1369182489 188689 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :price shopping from a few VPS providers < 1369182503 475875 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty sure EC2 doesn't have the best price, although micro instances are cheap < 1369182509 167980 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i could buy it as a "reserved instance" < 1369182524 614217 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you pay up-front to have a lower hourly rate for a year or 3 years < 1369182561 48566 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i sort of think EC2 pricing is deliberately complex so that people will over-pay < 1369182642 872278 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder how much EC2 prices will drop once the startup bubble bursts < 1369182697 835254 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is spot pricing relatively cheap? < 1369182713 874818 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For the file processing, it's not like I need continu... oh, hmm, I do, derp < 1369182723 176027 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think timidity would like to be interrupted < 1369182725 754447 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can be a lot cheaper, yeah < 1369182734 651721 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well each individual conversion task is pretty short right < 1369182749 336443 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I ... guess < 1369182757 377003 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you just need to code it in such a way that a file isn't marked as converted until it's really done < 1369182778 542851 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would be nice if the 'interruptions' were more like storing a memory snapshot and then restoring < 1369182886 550347 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you can irc from my server so i can get all your passwords < 1369182888 614551 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :guaranteed < 1369182924 852149 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1369182997 868252 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :todo figure out something exciting to do with kmc's irc passwords < 1369183011 680517 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :have him rejoin #haskell as a celebrity < 1369183017 410793 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :c.c < 1369183041 398141 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then uh say that he's moved on to a better language like C++caml or w/e < 1369183054 215191 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i will be writing Rust at my day job soon < 1369183062 868680 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would spend less time yelling at people in #haskell if kmc was there to also yell < 1369183065 941124 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :- my endorsement < 1369183089 717383 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for f in *; do gunzip $f; done < 1369183093 240903 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm < 1369183097 218183 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for f in *.gz; do gunzip $f; done < 1369183107 623718 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gun zip < 1369183108 163671 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is this a reasonable thing to do if I think some of them are invalid? < 1369183173 684743 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seemed to work < 1369183179 56236 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds good < 1369183225 99139 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :for f in *.gz; do if ! gz -t "$f"; then mv "$f" bad; else gunzip "$f"; fi; done < 1369183253 669256 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There were only two that were bad < 1369183258 622022 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I don't know what ! means < 1369183263 770658 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or -t < 1369183270 291407 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or gz < 1369183287 603329 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :or "" < 1369183290 573017 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :-t Test. Check the compressed file integrity. < 1369183317 730468 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Timidity was last updated 2004?!? < 1369183322 808435 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe there's better software now? < 1369183444 490227 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe they couldn't bear to work any longer with cvs < 1369183511 374764 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I think the webpage I found is old < 1369183565 723590 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :! means 'not' < 1369183624 708126 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Does ! mean not?" "!false" < 1369183654 639494 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well !false in Bash would be something different from ! false < 1369183655 816625 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sadly < 1369183672 146454 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :* TiMidity++-2.13.2 2004-10-03 < 1369183675 284455 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :* TiMidity++-2.14.0 2012-06-29 < 1369183697 339841 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Great release schedule < 1369183703 881463 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it ain't broke < 1369183711 111306 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but it's software so it probably is broke) < 1369183719 552426 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clearly it was broke if they needed to release a 2.14 < 1369183723 687171 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it ain't broke don't pay it? < 1369183726 815590 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :It probably isn't fully working to begin with < 1369183734 296028 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc as a civil engineer would be fun. "this bridge is so patched together" < 1369183756 319917 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :We got this bridge for free, so it's ok < 1369183775 828403 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somehow I doubt Gregor would encourage me to choose fluidsynth over timidity < 1369183787 496068 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also only depraved electronic musicians use that bridge < 1369183792 700072 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would hire web startup ninjas to design a bridge < 1369183796 106741 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because they are experts at all things < 1369183807 445125 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: what was that about roaches in @tell < 1369183846 338987 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric : Jafet: You remind me of the roaches in `olist. < 1369183852 141059 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1369183852 545408 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would encourage anyone and everyone to choose fluidsynth over timidity. < 1369183854 491001 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you did. < 1369183860 740983 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thafet < 1369183864 80205 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :timidity is the most buggy piece of software on Earth, but it is far, far superior to timidity. < 1369183866 998219 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm < 1369183867 955210 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: What do you think? < 1369183870 193870 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :fluidsynth is the most buggy piece of software on Earth, but it is far, far superior to timidity. < 1369183887 129106 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :All the stability in the world won't stop timidity from being crap. < 1369183897 92455 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.O how is timidity crap? < 1369183902 421435 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :It uses GUS patches. < 1369183907 872723 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :GUS patches? < 1369183909 779081 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's just no way to make them sound good. < 1369183916 424923 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gravis UltraSound. < 1369183917 480156 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :A form of patchset that's older than both of us. < 1369183925 826631 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :(OK, not actually older than both of us ;) ) < 1369183931 846715 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was popular in 1992. < 1369183932 149075 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :older than one of us < 1369183946 676420 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What sort of thing is Unison.sf2 in? < 1369183953 304552 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :SoundFont. < 1369183953 499917 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm kind of used to it < 1369183955 395735 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A *1992* wavetable based synth? Maaan. < 1369183955 875195 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's for fluidsynth. < 1369183966 417219 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could have sworn I made timidity use Unison < 1369183983 114439 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Years ago < 1369183985 337386 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that timidity can do a sort of internal conversion, but it's just that. < 1369183993 852173 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't actually take advantage of any of SF's better featuresa. < 1369183994 48178 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This was a time when not having a CD-ROM interface meant it sucked. :P < 1369184001 555890 :alejandro!~canaima@190.121.238.3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369184005 129133 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm < 1369184014 104655 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :So yeah. fluidsynth. < 1369184019 989924 :alejandro!~canaima@190.121.238.3 PART :#esoteric < 1369184035 110993 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wish I could install software on here < 1369184038 56058 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I broke apt < 1369184049 259245 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :fluidsynth may have two bugs for every feature, but it is a /fundamentally/ superior technology. < 1369184052 111836 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Installing anything makes it want to install a new libc < 1369184063 940366 :JesseH!~JesseH@ip72-210-71-131.mc.at.cox.net QUIT :Quit: JesseH < 1369184069 660197 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can never have enough libcs < 1369184075 525922 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ALL the libcs. < 1369184103 712128 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, ok, so, is there something to do conversion from .mid to normal sound using a soundfont with software better than fluidsynth> < 1369184104 494779 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1369184132 417153 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Err, it can be done with fluidsynth X-D < 1369184154 14837 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does Unison make use of those features that Timidity can't handle? < 1369184161 621116 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, but if it's buggy... < 1369184163 821017 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably? < 1369184182 299801 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: Don't worry about fluidsynth's bugs until you run into them *shrugs* < 1369184220 959265 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume "buggy" means "it's liable to crash" and such. < 1369184224 437925 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're mostly really stupid things, like failing to change instruments if the MIDI messages aren't in the "right" order or randomly deciding to or not to reset things between tracks or just crashing. < 1369184230 500183 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/05/reporters-use-google-find-breach-get-branded-as-hackers/ are you a wget hacker < 1369184240 997513 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everything that isn't a crash is obvious. < 1369184251 739006 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use fluidsynth for codu.org/webmidi , btw. < 1369184252 744146 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, so I may end up with 'wrong' music? < 1369184272 898545 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, just potentially the wrong instruments or a crash. < 1369184300 806770 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is wrong instruments not wrong music? < 1369184313 961503 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, you like SONiVOX? < 1369184330 41622 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :As SF2 libraries gos, SONiVOX makes amongst the best. < 1369184344 963829 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i.e., they're the only sort of professional sound designers willing to lower themselves to SF2) < 1369184357 208029 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, probably better than Unison then < 1369184363 809056 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I guess I'd have to buy the soundfont? < 1369184379 318713 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :.........it's a hundred dollars < 1369184384 720504 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So. MIDI, it sucks. < 1369184387 244042 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. It's not cheap, and not worth it if you don't have real need for it :) < 1369184393 720389 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Naw, MIDI is great :) < 1369184416 589564 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/webmidi/gen/19904281061092/19904281061092.ogg < 1369184461 702888 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :From wrlds1.mid < 1369184465 553348 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds like MIDI. < 1369184481 231534 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: if a website shows your personal information on ?id=100 and you change that to ?id=101 that's illegal hth < 1369184492 808137 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey i've done that before < 1369184504 277851 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :You CRIMINAL HACKER < 1369184504 471181 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm an official cyber criminal (michael jackson plays) < 1369184514 956300 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cracker: criminal hacker < 1369184533 907436 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cracker: white criminal hacker < 1369184535 473576 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote cracker < 1369184541 40835 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1369184544 317547 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yo fuck you < 1369184604 282483 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote fuck < 1369184605 780853 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :179) I love the way zzo38's comment was cut off after the f of brainfuck that's just the most hilarious place to cut it off in a discussion about censorshi \ 224) oerjan: Tell us what (a(b{c}d)*2e)%2 expands to <-- ababcdbcdedbabcdbcdede, i think oerjan: What - the - fuck \ 242) okay see in m < 1369184609 508121 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i demand that Gregor be -v < 1369184634 727725 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, is Chorium good? < 1369184638 166533 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it free? < 1369184643 102638 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chorium is as good as free gets. < 1369184651 410645 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, ok < 1369184659 96370 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: How's the accordion hunt going? < 1369184672 406172 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I have two but neither are exactly great *sigh* < 1369184685 873896 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean the chromatic button accordion hunt. < 1369184686 350846 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, so, you'd recommend it over Unison? < 1369184706 277153 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know where I got this idea that Unison is awesome? < 1369184745 357725 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't just use your web service to render all my MIDIs, can I? >:D < 1369184799 644460 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/webmidi/gen/202062800218550/202062800218550.ogg is it just me or does the Chorium version sound significantly different? < 1369184801 797867 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure *shrugs* < 1369184812 203974 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course it sounds significantly different. < 1369184815 177037 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh god those strings X_X < 1369184820 568312 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Strings are always the worst. < 1369184830 521149 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do we have good string synth yet i forgot < 1369184835 494855 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope. < 1369184838 886294 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :got it < 1369184856 506066 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I don't think Sonivox even did the strings, it sounded like a different instrument? < 1369184860 448944 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or am I imagining things < 1369184866 46770 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: How many buttons in a chromatic button accordion? < 1369184872 104271 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least four, right? < 1369184879 610475 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Considerably more I'd say. < 1369184884 292705 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eight? < 1369184885 237657 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: 120 in the bass, not sure about the trouble. < 1369184886 854639 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm < 1369184888 792471 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Treble X_X < 1369184900 843250 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor is trouble < 1369184921 798929 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, sonivox sounds better but I want free < 1369184933 4003 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't just go try Unison on your web service magically, can I? < 1369184944 297051 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, but if you can send me a link to it, I can add it. < 1369184944 925018 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1369184967 912618 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.personalcopy.com/linuxfiles.htm < 1369185099 104964 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never tried personalcopy < 1369185202 9247 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Peter Jevnisek's wonderful new GM/GS soundbank is now here for download and is one of the most popular on this site. This is the one that's been talked about in the newsgroups, previewed with some mp3 samples, and has everyone waiting with baited breath! A wonderfully musical and clean sound; if you're using the SBLive! you must download this soundfont." < 1369185206 543675 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(about Unison) < 1369185284 58020 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wants to know what Gregor thinks about Unison < 1369185425 995124 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's still downloading. < 1369185428 58997 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what I think. < 1369185523 941369 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :On Windows I used to use some... thing by Yamaha < 1369185526 67680 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :To play MIDIs < 1369185528 763550 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really liked it < 1369185752 169113 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :There, maybe I installed Unison. < 1369185834 801412 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1369185871 609436 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: http://codu.org/webmidi/gen/214051887116122/214051887116122.ogg < 1369185900 582690 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/webmidi/gen/20734427124682/20734427124682.ogg it's nicer than Chorium I think < 1369185920 109552 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, at least at first < 1369185935 118173 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...just heard an iffy part < 1369185946 810916 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you've just happened upon instruments that it does... "better". < 1369185967 918007 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: what is it < 1369185968 668244 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :'cause Chorium's strings suck horribly. So do Unison's, but not quite as bad :) < 1369185973 11626 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: EVERYTHING < 1369185974 854801 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ALL THE THINGS < 1369185979 161540 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :my speakers aren't even on!!! < 1369185988 124720 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have another song to upload, although it might not be as legal < 1369186005 940370 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the way Unison treats the beginning though < 1369186031 589085 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1369186047 316432 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i'm coming to grips with the Grand Unified Theory Of Why Moffat Who Is Shit < 1369186069 676206 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin NICK :{-_-} < 1369186089 254075 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh Lamour in Unison: http://codu.org/webmidi/gen/20891761211620/20891761211620.ogg < 1369186116 898215 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where's the sparkly effect I like? :( < 1369186122 891396 :{-_-}!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin NICK :eliot < 1369186205 433564 :dessos!~dessos@c-174-60-176-249.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PART :#esoteric < 1369186245 961064 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Might be wrong song :( or maybe it was on that Yamaha thing < 1369186260 538407 :eliot!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin NICK :copumpkin < 1369186320 405000 :GOMADWarrior!~Regis@187.65.216.203 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369186343 79450 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh Lamour in Sonivox: http://codu.org/webmidi/gen/20991111911878/20991111911878.ogg < 1369186363 379918 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there cheaper Sonivox soundfonts? < 1369186583 553425 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/webmidi/gen/211401281913892/211401281913892.ogg Oh Lamour in Chorium < 1369186596 33113 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Definitely sounds more artificial than SONiVOX sounds < 1369186598 315815 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plenty, but as per a full general MIDI soundfont, the only options are their 250MB $100 one or their 24MB $70 one. < 1369186658 788497 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is some non-linear pricing < 1369186662 541913 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"not worth it if you don't have real need for it :)" < 1369186669 926374 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, what soundfonts would be worth it? < 1369186683 567110 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to hear the huge MIDI collection I have sound beautiful < 1369186730 972140 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you're not willing to pay anything, Chorium. Otherwise, SONiVOX. There is nothing in between. < 1369186766 359325 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm willing to pay $1.00 < 1369186766 692633 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chorium screwed up wrlds1 so badly < 1369186789 765004 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1369186798 513307 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, not that badly I guess < 1369187091 638051 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bored < 1369187101 33718 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Listen to the .ogg I'm going to link soon < 1369187115 536819 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A file I called "ZeldaMario.mid" rendered with sonivox < 1369187120 22862 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/webmidi/gen/214081523917090/214081523917090.ogg < 1369187136 105802 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm... it sounds... off < 1369187229 851748 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: hi < 1369187236 804143 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :helliott < 1369187252 138012 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :'eegan < 1369187263 671451 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what should i do < 1369187265 508067 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :helliott sounds pretty metal < 1369187269 507594 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, why does that song sound off? < 1369187326 763278 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should drink alcohol < 1369187330 358117 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: join my metal band compromised entirely of people whose names start with "ell" and who are greeted look around you-style on a regular basis < 1369187335 227352 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :n.b. you might have to change your name < 1369187341 492742 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it will be worth it < 1369187342 653417 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/webmidi/gen/215343205724631/215343205724631.ogg < 1369187344 408865 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :stheme5a < 1369187347 977697 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in Sonivox < 1369187363 82546 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The strings seem to be crowding out the melody < 1369187479 260407 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm when I preview a text attachment in GMail, Google prefixes exactly 256 bytes of whitespace < 1369187484 511847 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder what the hilarious reason is < 1369187498 358847 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :preventing content-sniffing as HTML in shitty browsers? < 1369187531 285115 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1369187534 708412 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: It's assuming that these instruments will have an instantaneous attack, which makes no sense physically. < 1369187559 736199 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the browser will sniff even if the server sends content-type: text/plain ? < 1369187564 936192 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it only looks at 256 bytes? < 1369187575 849616 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, IE ... oh, I think Safari does too sometimes < 1369187606 590539 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe old safari < 1369187625 407714 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, what, the MIDI file is? < 1369187673 529183 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :So to speak. < 1369187681 431820 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Yes, it actually scans the first 256 bytes pretty much regardless. < 1369187698 980673 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Its algorithm for doing so uses the server-sent MIME type *as a parameter in its heuristics*. < 1369187705 311440 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sigh < 1369187709 984228 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, which browser?? < 1369187711 410982 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck postel's law < 1369187715 500556 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: IE < 1369187723 120487 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think IE has a header to disable sniffing < 1369187753 483494 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :X-Content-Type-Options: nosniff < 1369187755 204671 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :To be fair-ish, MIME type detection is at least a feature web browsers need to have. < 1369187763 757080 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :An HTTP server doesn't *have* to send a MIME type. < 1369187767 525040 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or indeed any headers. < 1369187796 464008 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there still HTTP/0.9 servers online? < 1369187808 389424 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1369187810 493656 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably. < 1369187822 344955 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1369187902 579272 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, I guess a lot of these MIDIs were made for older soundfonts? < 1369187919 765116 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/webmidi/gen/218232634319680/218232634319680.ogg LogC in SONiVOX < 1369187951 549022 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :In a manner of speaking. Ideally MIDIs are made for a particular suite of virtual instruments, but in practice they tend to be made to sound good on Windows software synth ;) < 1369187953 580587 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeo: or fm synth cards? < 1369187972 868292 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :some midis are made to play on actual pianos and such ;) < 1369188008 101844 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's hard to make midi sound not cheesey because usually the sample set gets way overused since it's the same for every song < 1369188011 578916 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most of these MIDIs are probably a decade old < 1369188013 71694 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or older < 1369188018 8408 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the comic sans of soundfonts < 1369188040 554822 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not to mention that you can't mix midi because every soundfont/synth is different < 1369188059 225226 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: most common atm is gm.dls < 1369188086 68368 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the soundfont on old sb awe32/awe64 cards was really cheesey too < 1369188140 777519 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it had some ok samples but the snare was really really cheesey < 1369188147 802693 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and snare drum is used on everything < 1369188156 858988 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/lbBR9dY.gif < 1369188174 757120 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lolwut < 1369188260 516430 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus everything was drowned in chorus and reverb anyways < 1369188263 356341 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1369188264 743763 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i did 50 jumping jacks < 1369188266 87982 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i smell something burning < 1369188266 679309 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, Glee1a isn't even playing on my computer < 1369188266 874814 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :still/again bored < 1369188269 344474 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's probably bad < 1369188299 330584 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time kmc < 1369188300 131185 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for kmc is Tue May 21 22:04:59 2013 < 1369188303 317641 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :<- not really a fan of midi :3 < 1369188310 778801 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: happy 22:05 < 1369188332 207614 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :<- really a fan of midi :3 < 1369188370 156290 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :glee1a < 1369188371 174639 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm a diehard fan of impulse tracker tbh < 1369188376 75486 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The beginning sounds weird http://codu.org/webmidi/gen/220073105321700 < 1369188377 125051 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what has 2 thumbs and is a big fan of midi < 1369188417 144713 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1369188433 134460 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/webmidi/gen/220073105321700/log.txt < 1369188438 106552 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warnings about invalid generators < 1369188443 519255 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what generators are < 1369188482 120859 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have seven thumbs < 1369188496 845314 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh it's like it's playing some real fast line and the ice rain patch can't follow < 1369188503 696576 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably sounds ok on FM synths tho < 1369189161 292861 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Putting in song from a movie... now < 1369189166 330092 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/webmidi/gen/224151221912487/224151221912487.ogg < 1369189182 866464 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that movie is not where I nostalgize it from < 1369189212 540050 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1369189323 525989 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this has zimmerness < 1369189365 923388 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/webmidi/gen/225562643528383/225562643528383.ogg < 1369189390 203517 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( was fully expecting the 'quality' of the sound font to be a detriment to this song, and it is < 1369189415 707158 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's supposed to be a rougher feel < 1369189422 511754 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or at least, I've always heard it with a very rough feel < 1369189561 567019 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And now for a deliberately sickingly cute song: < 1369189575 274121 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/webmidi/gen/226811563322357/226811563322357.ogg < 1369189585 416371 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sickingly < 1369189598 536182 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn JOIN :#esoteric < 1369189704 5138 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sickiningly < 1369189709 210690 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sickingingly < 1369189716 231518 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you've... almost got it < 1369189724 236908 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sickeningly (thanks to spell-checker) < 1369189876 323591 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13691253090A82340100&page=1#20 plz to comment on: Security Theater < 1369190064 717371 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Going to post < 1369190067 55894 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And register < 1369190075 179559 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :on what < 1369190188 614759 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you mean tvtropes then fucking don't please < 1369190361 802418 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're going to register at a website because it leaks login details in cleartext < 1369190388 90841 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just posted < 1369190393 790284 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Turned out I was already registered < 1369190399 550724 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh my god. < 1369190421 631375 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh i don't want to read all of this < 1369190432 357450 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yes a lot of people are confused about what password hashing is good for < 1369190433 946421 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, just read the (now second-to-last) post < 1369190444 126744 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically the system checks if you're logged in by having your username and password in cookies. < 1369190454 768926 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Encrypting anything is just security theater. < 1369190455 976875 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I rot13 my password 1000000 times to make it harder to brute force < 1369190462 344436 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's like pbkdf2 but better < 1369190464 666893 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also people should stop saying "encrypt" when they mean "hash" < 1369190466 150417 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :cause nobody will expect it < 1369190470 957496 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :copbkdf2kin < 1369190474 329033 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pbkdf13 < 1369190480 747219 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know anything, it's true. < 1369190506 133527 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920028000.do?sortby=publicationDate wow < 1369190535 793420 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1369190546 123985 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yet few resources are dedicated to this data type. < 1369190551 135669 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :They should call it "C: the fun parts" < 1369190551 791770 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good morning mr. magpie < 1369190555 748904 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :226 pages of it < 1369190603 19247 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just verified username + pass being sent plaintext over http < 1369190611 582781 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Apply concepts to real-world problems: model the behavior of boats, airplanes, cars, and sports balls" i didn't know people called them "sports balls" < 1369190624 10868 :nooodl^!~nooodl@91.177.81.244 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1369190653 997424 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tTV0cBGbaM < 1369190740 646492 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : also people should stop saying "encrypt" when they mean "hash" < 1369190749 258078 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :really when someone says the kind of things said there there's a good chance it's actual encryption < 1369190767 754641 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't even mention the 'it should be hashed' thing in my post < 1369190771 817717 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :One step at a time < 1369190785 969979 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're fighting an uphill battle. for no reason < 1369190791 755874 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dance ball modelling < 1369190804 677026 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was kind of hoping someone could verify that my understanding is correct < 1369190839 13027 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :since when do people say "encrypt" when they're talking about drugz (kmc drugz joke) < 1369190856 627417 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :They want to be "cryptic" < 1369190889 989204 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Q: how was the cryptographer buried? A: they were encrypted < 1369190918 412428 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you should grade cannabis quality as sha-1 sha-256 etc. < 1369190926 271721 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo that was pretty good < 1369190952 482717 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should explain how sending it encrypted is safe < 1369190969 718255 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :who cares, it's tvtropes < 1369190973 995835 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(If Fast Eddie posts and says that sending over https is equiv. to http, I'll do that) < 1369190975 936401 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: haha yes I will do that < 1369191004 577478 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This batch is really RIPEMD" < 1369191011 440807 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can buy a /lot/ of different strains of weed in SF < 1369191306 212161 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you bought any < 1369191350 915512 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's different between strains? < 1369191487 566999 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: not directly < 1369191515 305469 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: different mixture of cannabinoids, producing a different effect, supposedly < 1369191525 924532 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :only supposedly? < 1369191540 998141 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe only supposedly, maybe supposedly and also actually. < 1369191557 430913 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what shachaf said < 1369191576 27087 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is clearly an expert on this topic. < 1369191592 964425 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lots of people talk about a difference between Cannabis sativa and Cannabis indica, at least < 1369191643 536794 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cannabis weedia < 1369191745 718940 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'A study published in the South African Journal of Science showed that "pipes dug up from the garden of Shakespeare's home in Stratford upon Avon contain traces of cannabis." The chemical analysis was carried out after researchers hypothesized that the "noted weed" mentioned in Sonnet 76 and the "journey in my head" from Sonnet 27 could be references to cannabis and the use thereof.' < 1369191751 741164 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesome < 1369191760 416841 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :noted weed is a good name for it < 1369191784 725920 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shakespeare gotta get blazed son < 1369191844 329697 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why write I still all one, ever the same, // And keep invention in a noted weed, // That every word doth almost tell my name, // Showing their birth, and where did they proceed? < 1369191847 445839 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the weed experience. < 1369191883 384635 :GOMADWarrior!~Regis@187.65.216.203 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1369191906 328511 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :A Noted Weed: the Keegan McAllister Story < 1369191917 311346 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :would read/watch < 1369191940 410270 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«This interpretation is based on an assumption about the colloquialism "weed". It was not used in reference to the drug marajuana in the USA until the 1920s,» sux < 1369191942 273543 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc should get a drugz named after him < 1369191952 447539 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: shut. shut up. stop ruining it < 1369191969 536552 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I mean. He probably did actually smoke weed. < 1369191982 327106 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :who doesn't, right < 1369191986 576256 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1369191991 640213 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :WRONG < 1369192048 161918 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :smbc++ < 1369192077 911153 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so did shakespeare smoke pot or not < 1369192082 573857 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i demand a yes/no answer < 1369192092 405048 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes and yes < 1369192104 719802 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :come on man you know the history of drugz better than anyone < 1369192121 544550 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com QUIT :Quit: Radiateur < 1369192123 287080 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :did shakespeare use lsd or not < 1369192162 927265 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :doubtful < 1369192175 748398 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shakespeare was a noted biochemist in his day < 1369192179 999202 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're going to make some absolute zingers when kmc gets the death penalty for smuggling drugs < 1369192197 348871 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :using #esoteric logs as evidence < 1369192223 860782 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty sure this is what inevitably happens to anyone who slides down the slippery slope that is gateway drugs (the gateway is to hell) < 1369192276 723215 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: is that the hardest drugz of all < 1369192294 646398 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*turkmenistani photograph* < 1369192318 470809 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't even know if that's a thing you get death penalty for in the america's < 1369192324 816693 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copyright infringement hth < 1369192332 282175 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, i misread that < 1369192415 433550 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :smug druggling < 1369192622 743556 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, just POSTing username / password over HTTPS is not enough < 1369192635 816206 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you pretty much need to serve the whole site over HTTPS to have good security < 1369192657 133785 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But POSTing the password over https is better than nothing. < 1369192661 937863 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :alright i'm going to comment on this again even though i decided it would be a bad idea to: < 1369192669 75624 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :an active attacker could tamper with the real login form, or serve a fake login form to an already-logged-in user < 1369192671 69687 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :not if someone serves up a page that doesn't post the password over https < 1369192679 194829 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, but if you use HTTPS at all you should use HTTPS entirely. < 1369192686 942835 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :last time something this stupid came up, he said password security didn't matter because it was just for edits and avoiding spammers < 1369192697 100888 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Otherwise it provides only *miniscule* benefits. < 1369192708 483351 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: I've explicitly added https: to the URL before logging in in the past. < 1369192716 922392 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it is better than nothing, but it's also a handy excuse for not doing more, I guess < 1369192720 328956 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(namely, an attacker would have to spend fractional amount of time to do it) < 1369192722 260819 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and when i say "something this stupid" i mean "the same thing" since it's been like this since i quit, which was in ancient times. < 1369192736 804814 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure really, it's a tricky organizational question and not a technical one < 1369192749 699436 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :whether these half measures are better than nothing < 1369192751 727557 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: our esolang wiki has a totally insecure login :'( < 1369192760 70045 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: Besides, someone could do that anyway, if you ever make a non-https request. < 1369192774 585950 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The moral of the story is, I chose a half measure, when I should have gone all the way. I'll never make that mistake again. No more half measures. < 1369192795 171917 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: that's why kmc says the entire site should be < 1369192798 625126 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you should keep an eye on that < 1369192821 87956 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Y'know, the whole "scream bloody murder on self-signed HTTPS certs" thing bothers me. < 1369192827 540369 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should make the wiki https-y < 1369192829 173623 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds scary though < 1369192831 265134 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, but a user can still type in an http: URL. < 1369192842 532856 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway I agree with y'all that it's the right thing to do. < 1369192852 281266 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: have you considered switching to a more ssecure platform, like pmwiki < 1369192866 36466 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: what's the joke here < 1369192867 400438 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: why < 1369192867 679375 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does tvtropes use it < 1369192883 638948 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :HTTP < self-signed HTTPS < properly signed HTTPS, but browsers treat it as self-signed HTTPS < HTTP < properly signed HTTPS. < 1369192913 42290 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the self-signed cert could be a sign that Someone Is Doing Something Nasty < 1369192928 875985 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but then it could just be going down to HTTP. < 1369192955 286014 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'd be one thing if they warned when a site suddenly *changed* to self-signed. < 1369192986 237982 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think there was a time when browsers had a padlock icon for https but didn't have a similar indication of whether the cert is good or not < 1369192999 42312 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I don't think they should do that "Oh, it's signed, you can trust this site" green lock thing... < 1369193011 127508 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :these days though at least Chrome puts a red slash through 'https' if the cert is untrusted < 1369193022 957461 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I,I httpi: < 1369193029 549919 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. self-signed HTTPS should look pretty much like straight HTTP to an end-user if it's untrusted. < 1369193041 988286 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it definitely should be *allowed*. < 1369193077 257025 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ca system is lol imo < 1369193079 578228 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Particularly if they add to it an SSH-like policy of "when the cert changes, scream bloody murder". < 1369193087 500651 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, the CA system is kinda... dubious. < 1369193105 90435 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1369193110 697475 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo kmc should move there anyway < 1369193111 448419 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is a good system < 1369193115 951505 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like how it doesn't matter if you buy a cert from a good CA or a bad one < 1369193124 313639 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean self-signed is perfectly good for encryption < 1369193133 21241 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so there is no financial incentive for CAs to be good < 1369193144 233126 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's not like https has done "verification" well ever < 1369193144 883353 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :as long as they are just good enough to not get removed from browsers < 1369193173 463751 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Almost anything else really. < 1369193185 232876 :Tritonio!~Tritonio@athedsl-19620.home.otenet.gr QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1369193193 90539 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The CA system basically amounts to "trust ANYTHING these guys say to trust". < 1369193238 349611 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :imagine actually trusting verisign < 1369193271 372468 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously what we need is small scale societies. kill a few billion people and then the remainder can all trust each other because they know each other < 1369193291 93655 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :now who's the malthus < 1369193295 624936 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i trust tricycles and unicycles < 1369193317 225439 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Now Who's The Malthus" is the worst party game < 1369194013 374990 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: browsers don't remove bad CAs < 1369194019 301703 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :They only remove CAs that nobody uses < 1369194058 430021 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they remove them if they're publically compromised < 1369194110 866949 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :You think so < 1369194127 545978 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :According to this firefox, it still ships with root for diginotar < 1369194219 578741 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://blog.mozilla.org/security/2011/08/29/fraudulent-google-com-certificate/ i guess < 1369194230 744696 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://blog.mozilla.org/security/2013/01/03/revoking-trust-in-two-turktrust-certficates/ < 1369194262 398457 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see changes to the CA list in my debian updates pretty often, as well < 1369194285 880687 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know if they were all Google and Mozilla's doing or some were Debian's < 1369194303 301115 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: looks like a CA nobody uses < 1369195149 370802 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :PKI is fucked < 1369195151 923975 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :film at 11 < 1369195210 937069 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that another kurdish militia < 1369195215 262534 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1369195217 254878 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, CAs < 1369195218 13574 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :should be < 1369195247 295136 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i remember back when I read Fark they would have lots of posts about FARC, the colombian guerillas < 1369195250 221919 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good times < 1369195278 105066 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could have sworn there was a Kurdish rebel organization called PKI, like a splinter from the PKK, but nope. < 1369195343 245108 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :#esoteric should become a Kurdish rebel organization < 1369195343 440408 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@91-145-118-87.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing here < 1369195359 271880 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, the PKK is retreating from Turkey. < 1369195368 46784 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's probably a vacuum for splinter groups that don't want to do so. < 1369195371 140881 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does 'oonbotti' mean something in Finnish? < 1369195397 226247 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :google says that "olen botti" means "i have a bot" < 1369195442 417837 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to do that rendering of MIDIs, but just don't know if it's worth it < 1369195443 936552 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought "olen" was ~ "i am" < 1369195449 325101 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm, having to choose just one soundfont < 1369195462 880885 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, does EC2 come with storage? < 1369195464 807659 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should render { all MIDIs } x { all soundfonts } < 1369195481 204769 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does YouTube have limits on how much you can upload? < 1369195481 646511 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and have an interface for voting on which one is best < 1369195485 838063 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm serious, this would be a cool project < 1369195502 93733 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fun fact: A lot of the MIDIs I have have random names < 1369195514 944158 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been thinking about doing a project where people could tag the MIDIs < 1369195516 728827 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you know they're random < 1369195522 463384 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pseudorandom < 1369195529 53191 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least, incomprehensible to me < 1369195535 244088 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even if not random < 1369195540 728730 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :EC2 has like seven kinds of storage < 1369195549 875991 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :80d8a266.mid < 1369195550 71234 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :each more confusing and terrible than the rest < 1369195554 770452 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example < 1369195562 646485 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does that correspond to a well known hash of the file < 1369195602 634695 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't ... think so < 1369195616 919427 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :where do you like... get midis, as a thing < 1369195618 130733 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've seen separate installations of the program give different files the same name < 1369195636 434367 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean is that like just downloading every mp3 ever < 1369195659 629281 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :midis sound better when you download them over gopher < 1369195673 633982 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :BYOND is where these weirdly named files came from. Game makers include MIDIs, and also a few of the games allow people to share music, so some of them are from random people < 1369195690 345405 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's also Active Worlds, and Worlds.com, although the MIDIs from those are more sanely named < 1369195691 130475 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :real audiophiles scoff at midis and lois and go straight to highis < 1369195945 883342 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It shouldn't take an hour to render 917 MIDIs, should it? < 1369195952 997829 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, maybe it would take more than an hour < 1369195971 209950 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo write a super optimized renderer < 1369195977 15889 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :node.js can render over 10,000 midis per second < 1369195992 120854 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://daychilde.com/midiguy/ in case anyone wants my midis < 1369196007 582800 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's also a .zip file of all of them at http://daychilde.com/midiguy/AllMIDIs.zip < 1369196321 570337 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What happens if I hate Amazon or if Amazon dies? Are there other things similar to EC2? < 1369196339 172969 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are lots of hosting providers < 1369196340 130538 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: 'oonbotti' ~ "I'm a bot" or "O's bot" < 1369196359 468460 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are lots of 'cloud' providers meaning they have an API to provision new machines etc < 1369196365 667573 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there might even be some with an EC2 compatible API < 1369196384 22554 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eucalyptus_(computing) is a package for building AWS-compatible clouds < 1369196392 753315 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno if it's any good, i've only used the client tools < 1369196398 359997 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can I just ssh into an instance and do stuff from there, or do I have to design an 'application'? < 1369196404 155441 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can do the former < 1369196473 712824 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have a lot of fancy terminology for what boils down to just a Linux server < 1369196477 424836 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least in the simple use cases < 1369196488 438667 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmm... in theory, I should be able to VNC into a Windows Server, right? I could play games on EC2 if I wanted! < 1369196493 887702 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1369196828 531995 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://stackoverflow.com/questions/549/the-definitive-guide-to-forms-based-website-authentication well then. < 1369196889 638353 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://bi.ke < 1369199031 36504 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1369200805 728821 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1369200897 228518 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1369201232 324033 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Debian GNU/Hurd 2013 is out! < 1369201235 4312 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finally. < 1369201576 676297 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clearly the most important thing. < 1369201602 676374 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :man, that thing is still around? < 1369201622 432044 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the hurd is eternal < 1369201634 815201 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the real GNU kernel is GRUB < 1369201665 228887 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote the real GNU kernel is GRUB < 1369201673 940445 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1039) the real GNU kernel is GRUB < 1369201676 15838 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Yes, it really is. < 1369201678 438632 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's funny because it's true < 1369201689 670717 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1369201700 811851 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember reading about lilo in a Linux book I had < 1369201712 361596 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That book also mentioned fvwm95 < 1369201717 697998 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's got so many fancy features on top of its *base* not really working. < 1369201745 797499 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"FVWM98 is a derivative of FVWM95 that is newer, and designed to look like Windows 98 instead of Windows 95." < 1369201754 541514 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's really (the) shit < 1369201760 90437 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :O: < 1369201760 285462 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Err... there's a significant appearance difference between 95 and 98? < 1369201766 501490 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, actually. < 1369201768 440086 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOADLIN is where it's at < 1369201781 316917 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And, LILO ain't really an archaicism. < 1369201789 243443 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's fallen out of *favor*, but it's definitely still around. < 1369201797 905144 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOADLIN 4 lyfe < 1369201804 489533 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.O what appearance differences? < 1369201854 518089 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know that gradient in the title bar? < 1369201858 907843 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Windows 95 didn't have that. < 1369201875 128320 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It also looks rather different courtesy of not having the IE integration. < 1369201887 80324 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOADLIN and Penguin < 1369201900 873157 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, the Windows 95 colorscheme in general was different from 98, the other differences were just subtle. < 1369201912 63220 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somewhat warmer colors. < 1369201962 22287 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As a kid I told someone to 'look for Windows Update' to tell whether they were using 95 or 98 < 1369201963 709968 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://toastytech.com/guis/win95desktop3.png http://toastytech.com/guis/win98desk.gif < 1369201981 71860 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://windows95tips.com/ < 1369202001 991882 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In many ways 95 looked nicer. < 1369202018 69432 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :windows95tips has like three times as many followers as his other blogs combined do, and he doesn't understand that at all, it's great < 1369202019 598248 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Particularly on 640x480. < 1369202024 549768 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's that red icon on the 98 one? < 1369202039 666580 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure. < 1369202052 401372 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, Compaq BS. < 1369202053 606597 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should really be sleeping < 1369202074 322814 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :did any of you play that Hover game that came on the Win 95 CD < 1369202083 77282 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have, at a friend's hous < 1369202084 32070 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://toastytech.com/guis/win98bg.gif Windows 98 was... dubious. < 1369202084 255969 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :house < 1369202088 476432 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Never had it on CD. < 1369202110 288907 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should download and play it immediately < 1369202111 156493 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, when the desktop background crashed, it was mostly white with some text, I forget what < 1369202123 556051 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had preinstalled Windows 95 and no idea where the install disc was, and access to the 95 floppies. < 1369202144 407064 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They were my grandmother's, but eh. < 1369202147 292083 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder how paranoid I should be about the possibility that someone has inserted Linux malware in a copy of an 18 year old Windows game < 1369202170 424853 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mclb4vv5tA1rehruqo1_400.png definitely this paranoid < 1369202182 573250 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Funny thing, I can't seem to find a copy of the Windows 95 *CD* to pirate at all. < 1369202189 949476 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Floppy images sure, but not the CD. < 1369202190 250099 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That looks like a right hand < 1369202198 951013 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think I have a 98SE ISO < 1369202205 293177 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :best version of 9x of course < 1369202207 244304 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a 98SE ISO somewhere < 1369202209 744460 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. I can find 98 and 98SE just fine. < 1369202216 347170 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4KAFMS4MOY < 1369202217 438877 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And even ME. < 1369202220 438241 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But not 95. < 1369202243 926258 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember Dilbert's Desktop Games < 1369202247 909099 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sadly, I can't find evidence of the 95 5.25" floppy set other than a mention of it. < 1369202270 576471 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, apparently you could order a copy of Windows 95 on 5.25" floppies. < 1369202274 674910 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember going into class, I forget the exact reason for this, but I remember saying to the class that I wanted to play it but didn't feel comfortable with the violence < 1369202281 526746 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Because of use of a cell phone to shock people) < 1369202291 225522 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the violence in Dilbert's Desktop Games? < 1369202310 531381 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1369202384 283534 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :sigh, hormones are irritating sometimes < 1369202389 172480 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=po3Mp2fOhTI < 1369202392 214702 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Techno Raiders < 1369202398 838767 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: They are. Why do you mention it though? < 1369202428 87339 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: because they're being irritating to me at the moment and preventing me from simply enjoying time with certain female friends < 1369202455 926574 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How amazingly vague. < 1369202457 500244 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that is not to say that the make the time unenjoyable, just less so, because I am trying to ensure that they do not influence my actions excessively) < 1369202475 221731 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :what, you expect my life story? < 1369202492 828329 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: how old are you, if you don't mind me asking? < 1369202493 593540 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That *is* what this channel is for. < 1369202495 80802 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is just curious < 1369202499 383884 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't that so, Sgeo_? < 1369202509 855636 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :somebody once told me this problem gets better around age 25 < 1369202513 920937 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know hormones have many important functions not related to tits i don't think you should be mean to hormones hello < 1369202522 262742 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is a curious fellow, and also not particularly secretive. < 1369202552 81348 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For instance, today was a straight porn day, not a gay porn day. < 1369202553 934957 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: possible < 1369202564 314271 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why divide it into days < 1369202570 749438 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: it also abates significant when in a relationship, for obvious reasons < 1369202574 661375 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just have all time be all porn time < 1369202585 362635 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I'm bordering on that TBH. :P < 1369202599 683362 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you bohemian < 1369202605 478220 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hence, the real problem is that I am not currently dating, and my body is objecting to this fact and offering several suggestions < 1369202611 191557 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :When your girlfriend hands you porn links at random hours, uh, yeah. < 1369202616 700113 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1369202627 383768 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"yo have you seen Slutbusters 5" < 1369202643 303931 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :my brain, meanwhile, is objecting to the objection < 1369202651 301020 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ass blasters ε₀ < 1369202656 287023 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at least wants to sit down sometime later when it's not going to be awkward and have an adult conversation about the matter < 1369202680 948857 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly your problem is dualism < 1369202702 282296 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly < 1369202704 788023 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the problem lack of dating or lack of sex or both < 1369202713 656097 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: former < 1369202720 115957 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lack of sex is easy. < 1369202723 105108 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1369202724 514122 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it? < 1369202725 958409 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I deal with it regularly < 1369202738 761095 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I think I could make it up to Waterloo. :P < 1369202753 559574 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so: kmc's a nympho and everyone else is masturbating furiously < 1369202766 568958 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not a nympho :< < 1369202776 235458 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd like to find more sex partners in fact < 1369202781 475547 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i'm lazy and bad at people < 1369202786 892991 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I hear ya. < 1369202806 10528 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Laziest Nympho < 1369202824 34339 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Open relationships are kinda funny when both people are also kinda lazy and bad at people. < 1369202828 941009 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1369202835 826533 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not too bad at people, I just don't apply myself < 1369202857 158312 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Y'know, we should totally have a threesome." "Yeah, but... who?" "Eh, we'll figure it out later." < 1369202871 702273 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a very strange sort of problem. < 1369202878 146039 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm also kind of insecure about my own attractiveness < 1369202885 139710 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, very insecure < 1369202885 588253 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it *really* doesn't help that I have a habit of becoming enamored with people with whom I have to maintain professional relationships < 1369202890 623907 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"honey, that's a dildo" "I'm not going out on Tuesday night." < 1369202912 12252 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm slightly insecure. My girlfriend is... quite insecure, though understandably so. < 1369202935 528696 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"quite insecure, though understandably so" < 1369202941 802703 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I've tried to do the simultaneous personal + professional relationship thing before. It wasn't actually that bad, but the entry and exit had better be flawless) < 1369202948 447992 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :She's trans. So, yes, understandably so. < 1369202969 837159 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounded like you were insulting her, tho :P < 1369202976 878290 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not at all. < 1369202981 19471 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know. < 1369202990 425025 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's why I took the sentence fragment and put it in quotation marks. < 1369203002 252692 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just life history making it understandable. < 1369203004 695070 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think masturbation solves the lack of sex problem, if that was implied above < 1369203023 700417 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I implied we could fuck, for what it's worth. :P < 1369203046 344620 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[hash]esoteric should have a museum guide tour, where you plug your headphones into a cheap ipod or whatever and they talk about pikhq's Blue Period < 1369203052 243301 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :who's the we there < 1369203063 173684 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Blue period? < 1369203075 635014 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, this is an art reference. < 1369203083 419653 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION needs to get over the fact that being a semipublic figure means having to act like one < 1369203094 202702 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote edwardk.*blue < 1369203094 403821 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf says: 3.0 is an edwardk phase, not just a version number. It's like Picasso's Blue Period. < 1369203096 295184 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Wait, you're semipublic? < 1369203097 948581 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're a semi-public figure? < 1369203100 200547 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :efb < 1369203104 699121 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :semipubic figure < 1369203121 214089 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: student politician who actually does shit < 1369203167 16371 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Semipubic then. < 1369203168 224975 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this channel doesn't talk about sex very often < 1369203172 325057 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like it < 1369203177 966015 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the change of pace I mean < 1369203191 970765 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :change of topic, anyway < 1369203195 926246 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sex is pretty awesome. < 1369203199 151857 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems like the usual #esoteric pace < 1369203199 547538 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1369203228 140211 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Keith Johnstone suggested that the "speed" of a scene is related to the rate at which new ideas are introduced rather than the rate that things are "happening". < 1369203231 927946 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :tip: vary the pace for a more overall pleasing experience < 1369203236 15241 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1369203236 373136 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :...Or something along those lines. < 1369203272 112709 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I have public figure aspirations, though, so... < 1369203291 201765 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, so a gay trist would be a bad thing. < 1369203292 124342 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alas. < 1369203298 80752 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :this isn't the USA < 1369203309 521914 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody cares if you had a gay trist < 1369203328 307653 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1369203336 954665 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would it be at all sane to attempt to use Visual Studio on EC2? < 1369203338 949823 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :To Canada, to finally have sex with a guy. :P < 1369203354 965753 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a pretty badly kept secret that a current cabinet minister fathered a child with another MP's secretary < 1369203397 26755 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Least I've got some experience with cock. < 1369203397 454126 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's actually more dangerous to bring it up than it is for him < 1369203408 355186 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(politically, I mean) < 1369203482 645240 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cock experience eh < 1369203500 425858 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yuh. < 1369203538 651127 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1369203540 92009 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :menstruation with food coloring < 1369203555 461036 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION isn't sure if he correctly interpreted an offer to hook up with pikhq, above, but wouldn't be against it if we met each other in person and found each other attractive and so forth < 1369203559 544438 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: what < 1369203572 396261 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :blue period. < 1369203578 443500 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :c_c < 1369203595 98756 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: suddenly picasso makes a whole lot more sense < 1369203597 352470 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: It was mostly joking, but wouldn't be against it if we met each other in person and found each other attractive and so forth. < 1369203601 386934 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay! < 1369203628 967733 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also is it ok if my girlfriend watches < 1369203639 722011 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :man < 1369203642 877497 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :really when i think of periods in art i think of goya's "black", or "totally fucked up" period < 1369203648 177385 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it ok if my girlfriend watches? :P < 1369203653 390782 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably < 1369203657 229939 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the english language sucks for expressing "I do not want something" as not meaning "I want not something" < 1369203661 162213 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :with he just painted on the inside of his house < 1369203664 869492 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :She's a *bit* of a yaoi fangirl. :P < 1369203667 759814 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :on walls < 1369203674 631984 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Marduk desires not the barren wasteland of your dessicated viscera. < 1369203679 758758 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because a guy eating his son is something you paint on your wall < 1369203709 769043 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: when I was in highschool a female friend made me a CD full of yaoi and yuri for my birthday < 1369203715 437234 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was a pretty good present :) < 1369203717 899113 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :for instance: I possess no desire to experience sexual relations with another male. I do not intrinsically have an objection to this, just that my life exprience indicates that it would likely be unenjoyable < 1369203718 622344 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1369203739 464840 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Shame, that. < 1369203763 52607 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :....i probably could have hooked up with her, too < 1369203771 114640 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn this being incredibly awkward in my teenage years < 1369203773 396410 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gay porn CD of love < 1369203775 835900 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Yeah, but it's high school. You're awkward. < 1369203787 248669 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: given that I find it irritating enough to deal with hormones that react to one half of the population, I'm not so sure < 1369203790 589897 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I was then a "no sex before marriage" type as well. < 1369203826 274177 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shame, probably could've had sex for the first time 6 years earlier. < 1369203834 37380 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's weird how sex is a BIG FUCKING DEAL (pun intended?) if you're not having any, and if you are, it's just like a fun thing you can do in between watching TV and going for a walk and IRC and whatever < 1369203838 571626 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I was ever that type. Possibly because nobody told me sex and marriage were related until I took legal studies class < 1369203849 386318 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fundie upbringing. < 1369203881 802353 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ok this is probably hyperbole, but it doesn't paint an inaccurate picture of my conceptions) < 1369203883 719636 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think sex is a big deal to me and i'm not having any. possibly this is because i've never had any? and also aren't like sixteen any more. < 1369203896 710418 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ except for the never had any bit < 1369203907 95016 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :tbh I care much more about the emotional codependency in a relationship than the sex < 1369203938 767231 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION says, while flipping between porn and Darwin < 1369203960 103625 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION started college at 16, had a kind of disastrous relationship right away, and then spent a few years being celibate by choice < 1369203980 583995 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :man how do you people get into school so ea- wait i already asked you < 1369203995 349933 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I'm 23 and still haven't graduated college. < 1369203997 912512 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Happy? :) < 1369204009 542863 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw if you are wondering why i'm over-sharing, here is the answer: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Pw2J2mP2J_Q/TjwFd47dumI/AAAAAAAAABk/Cw5kqVwjvDQ/s1600/kraken_rum.png < 1369204009 784523 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well played < 1369204010 185827 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I could have if I'd wanted to < 1369204013 956866 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :people talked me out of it < 1369204017 950261 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :they were right < 1369204021 274296 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: i still haven't started college hth < 1369204023 502233 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i do it < 1369204038 504910 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the kraken put a beast in your belly? is this like, some kind of bestial unbirthing thing < 1369204041 73581 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Meh. < 1369204046 896444 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: a) what is your current profession b) what do you want your profession to be? < 1369204062 92064 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh speaking of fucking, i hope you all know about https://twitter.com/voidsexts < 1369204102 682825 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you don't appear to be oversharing? < 1369204104 492721 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: a) none, exactly b) not quite sure < 1369204116 483547 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: get a liberal arts degree < 1369204118 339052 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :NEXT, PLEASE < 1369204118 534936 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently in The Old Days these things would start with "Dear Penthouse Playhouse" or whatever < 1369204128 612470 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1369204128 833963 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahaha < 1369204133 66920 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know how porn mags work. i think there are bunnies involved < 1369204134 325545 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: C'mon, we've not even gone into notable levels of kink. :P < 1369204180 305772 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wishes he had a magic hormone off button < 1369204191 744148 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: i think you would die < 1369204193 385661 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are drugs that reduce sex drive < 1369204198 117637 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :some of them have unfortunate side effects < 1369204198 621595 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :WP:NOTABLE#kinkiness < 1369204201 249813 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spironolactone? < 1369204203 823787 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hormones are p. important < 1369204214 144216 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(note, do not actually recommend this) < 1369204249 662047 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :last time i mentioned sex suppressant drugs fiora half seriously mentioned wanting to take them. life is weird < 1369204257 747333 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. < 1369204263 871114 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :antisexers < 1369204270 165277 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :desexerizers < 1369204281 898573 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did Fiora go away forever because of me? < 1369204282 105162 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well I'm taking a drug that sometimes *has* that as a side effect... < 1369204285 936088 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :SSRIs reduce sexual function but I think they don't reduce sexual desire, which is unfortunate < 1369204293 653952 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Probably < 1369204298 741778 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-( < 1369204302 777165 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Oh, hmm. < 1369204302 972529 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: yeah, it came up because I was talking about SSRIs, I think < 1369204315 90211 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wouldn't know though, cause I totally have not had that effect. < 1369204318 151354 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the whole "occasionally permanently destroys your sex drive" bit < 1369204322 718845 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've never taken them but my friend described masturbating all day and never being able to finish < 1369204326 213456 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which sounds hellish < 1369204331 661912 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::| < 1369204345 1301 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've not had any notable change, aside from orgasm being more pleasurable. < 1369204351 51910 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1369204352 176201 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I"ve heard similar stories from people on HRT. < 1369204368 905440 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have any nonsex things to overshare about < 1369204370 581339 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo that would be more interesting < 1369204372 179772 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :despite my well-known hobbies I haven't had much sex under the influence, as of yet < 1369204381 967992 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gotta fix this < 1369204382 528547 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIRC my girlfriend had that for a couple months. < 1369204391 301873 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just a relative lack of interest in sex. < 1369204391 633872 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I feel lonely and emotionless, and am making up for this with hyperrationalization. < 1369204396 281236 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: uh, I have a slightly deformed right pinky toe? < 1369204402 670319 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok actually I lied < 1369204409 327509 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't really affect my life in any way other than astounding people at parties < 1369204410 682165 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I hear it's addictive?? something something Go Ask Alice < 1369204415 255052 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now she's back up to ludicrously high sex drive. < 1369204418 980473 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :go ask alice when she's ten feet tall < 1369204423 165505 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the best part about being in a relationship is not having to deal with not being in a relationship < 1369204426 711817 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :if that makes any sense < 1369204431 617469 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :my sex drive is pretty low < 1369204441 577129 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: http://www.supermegacomics.com/index.php?i=371 < 1369204448 818882 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has chafed his penis before. To give you an idea. < 1369204459 311633 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :eek < 1369204462 262582 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Fun Bio Fact: in Descent of Man darwin talks about people with weird vestigial muscles, and people with muscular control of their scalp throwing books off their heads to win bets < 1369204468 64853 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :By the way, that is a terrible experience, would not repeat. < 1369204481 372936 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION notes "no dick chafing" in copybook < 1369204482 244959 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not very rubbable in general < 1369204485 959187 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like you need a friend to gently rub lotion on your penis < 1369204493 445561 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno why < 1369204541 767859 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: whoa is this why you do "the quoting thing" < 1369204562 572328 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: what you mean that comic < 1369204569 808172 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :y < 1369204571 574334 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i don't know i do it because mnoqy < 1369204586 257699 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: and mnoqy may well do it because of super mega but probably it precedes 371 < 1369204590 877628 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know about mnoqy < 1369204594 641622 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"not a mnoqy expert" < 1369204626 249715 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqologist < 1369204640 262232 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnqoy < 1369204646 921531 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is honestly quite glad HRT didn't do much to his girlfriend's sex drive. Wheeeee. < 1369204657 366409 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the real mnqoy < 1369204660 329655 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i think it was the early stages < 1369204666 238159 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lots of antiandrogens or something < 1369204682 810475 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1369204687 150887 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Makes sense. < 1369204709 186009 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Knocking out the original sex hormones, but the replacement isn't doing anything yet. < 1369204713 415949 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right. < 1369204721 953872 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION not that interested in chemical side, just watches youtube videos of penises being surgically deconstructed < 1369204750 630356 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION can't stomach much of that. < 1369204778 850051 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Familiar, sure, but... yeah < 1369204784 228256 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Surgical deconstruction? How about literary deconstruction? < 1369204786 835440 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're not alone there, that's for sure < 1369204800 209530 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: literary theory needs less dicks imo < 1369204800 728958 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neovaginoplasty is something I'd prefer to black box. :P < 1369204820 30945 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: transgender or ? < 1369204829 210372 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: I'm cis. My *girlfriend* is trans. < 1369204831 587442 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: i was more willing to watch it than several people who were considering undergoing it. possibly i am freakish < 1369204834 666918 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: that's what I meant < 1369204839 608542 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1369204856 127673 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Hah. < 1369204876 156126 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: the fact that you are not considering undergoing it probably makes you more likely to be willing to watch < 1369204895 55400 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shrug. < 1369204895 424060 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've dissected things before and not minded really but I don't really want to watch that I don't think < 1369204899 214864 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Not really. < 1369204912 479046 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i really found it amazing. I didn't know we were at a point in medicine where we could do that. < 1369204916 184539 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I managed to invalidate the mirror neuron theory of autism that way. :P < 1369204916 427133 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should really be asleep < 1369204918 928901 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(alone) < 1369204922 377630 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye < 1369204931 612011 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was so amazed that I posted it on my blog and got like three people screaming at me to take it away < 1369204950 426626 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I'll admit it is pretty fascinating. < 1369204966 115192 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just also squemish. < 1369204968 747 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean don't get me wrong, if someone doesn't want to watch it, i can understand that < 1369204987 364920 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :at the end of the day, it's still a penis being ripped inside out. < 1369204994 980647 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... And trypanophobic. < 1369205001 741869 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oogh. < 1369205015 306537 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey Bike if you ever run for president are you going to use the slogan "I Like Bike" < 1369205031 767818 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can basically deal with it up until the needle goes in, and then I faint. < 1369205039 799424 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, i'll use the slogan "We can Lick Dick" to misdirect them. < 1369205054 280722 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: you haven't received an HPV vaccination then, I assume? That one's really weird < 1369205057 97286 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Poor doctors must get a heart attack every time that happens, figuring I've got an allergic reaction to the injection. < 1369205062 213419 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: I have not. < 1369205068 608066 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the needle doesn't hurt it all < 1369205076 353665 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably should, but haven't. < 1369205079 119344 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a really mild prick < 1369205081 18820 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you tell them beforehand? < 1369205084 449155 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Yes. < 1369205088 148584 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the vaccine itself hurts like a bitch though < 1369205094 162092 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"yo this procedure is some freaky shit and imma faint, just fyi" < 1369205121 251246 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And assure them I'm fine afterwards when I'm conscious but dealing with incredibly low blood pressure. < 1369205123 286089 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: probably a good idea. No idea how much money that would cost you down in murrica though < 1369205131 617678 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like "my vision is gone" low blood pressure. < 1369205142 834053 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: "Mom's willing to pay for it" cost, so. < 1369205151 227266 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: that's a pretty good cost < 1369205168 5200 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's pretty low blood pressure. < 1369205175 540979 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup. < 1369205187 132281 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the only time i've fainted during a medical procedure was the first time i donated blood. not a pleasant experience no < 1369205201 742486 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, um, I'm not even trying to donate blood. < 1369205204 635924 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really an unpleasant experience either since i wasn't awake for most of it, but < 1369205205 493176 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is too gay to donate blood, to the Red Cross at least < 1369205208 602260 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, obviously. < 1369205215 53933 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though for the moment I think technically *could*. < 1369205218 935389 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trying to fix that though. < 1369205221 176519 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1369205222 235280 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hh < 1369205224 878953 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :*hah < 1369205227 637434 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :need more gay sex and tats < 1369205235 296747 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tats, oh fuck no. < 1369205244 93616 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: wait. your girlfriend is mtf or ftm? < 1369205248 163850 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: MTF. < 1369205261 699538 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hence "girlfriend", not "boyfriend". < 1369205264 918817 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you get a tattoo they make you wait like, 18 months I think. < 1369205291 320005 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :make sure your love of MoM doesn't seep into the blood < 1369205303 781742 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: that's what I figured. but then aren't you currently ineligible? < 1369205321 54680 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: The policies on trans people are basically "uh?" < 1369205328 698845 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1369205334 444504 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i was gonna say, i wouldn't even ask the red cross about that < 1369205372 134041 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :every time i've donated they've asked me my gender again. i can't tell if it's like, trying to be inclusive, or they're just really paranoid, or what. < 1369205380 6231 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: gender or sex? < 1369205387 719821 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I figured you were referring to her sex when talking about "trying to fix that" < 1369205400 466509 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Nah, more saying "I need to find a guy to fuck". < 1369205400 661340 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that would mean ftm which didn't make sense since you call her a girlfriend < 1369205404 924202 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh... i don't remember if they even make that distinction. < 1369205412 469362 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: ah < 1369205458 453080 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It probably just says "male or female"? maybe i'll pay more attention next time. < 1369205484 50393 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assume from 'ludicrously high sex drive' that you and your girlfriend are happy with the results of surgery? if that's not a super weird question to ask < 1369205492 958369 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: She's yet to have surgery. < 1369205501 653697 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1369205512 801247 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I brought it up, so *fair enough*. :P < 1369205525 762358 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'd be weird utterly out of the blue, but in context? Yeah. < 1369205526 879364 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq is too creative to be limited to penetrative sex like mortals < 1369205547 812618 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, there's penetrative sex. Among other things. < 1369205574 433034 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :concatenative sex, function-level sex < 1369205587 237021 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :self modifying sex < 1369205590 177602 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION goes to sleep for real  < 1369205591 643793 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :good night < 1369205593 1580 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh baby < 1369205598 188573 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye again < 1369205599 326802 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: non-von neumann sex hth < 1369205623 421138 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can sex be liberated from the von neumann position < 1369205641 25953 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Invertible sex. < 1369205715 592625 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote can sex be liberated from the von neumann position < 1369205721 952216 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1040) can sex be liberated from the von neumann position < 1369205728 710411 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Yeah, ATM she's still researching surgeons and such. Shit be tricky. < 1369205745 327054 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think my quotes paint a picture of me as being a well-programmed joke robot < 1369205756 845715 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I think she still needs a second therapist to sign off on it too. < 1369205780 169942 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :God it's all a mess. < 1369205794 975129 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you still have to do that thing where you present as your gender without any help for a year? < 1369205811 928287 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: No, that has been rejected for being complete and utter bullshit. < 1369205830 751981 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some people still recommend it but this is them holding on to ancient practice. < 1369205832 952643 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, well, as you know a lot of things related to transness are bullshit. < 1369205838 180413 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup. < 1369205851 577177 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But in this case it was explicitly rejected by the medical community as bullshit. < 1369205856 139078 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sweet. < 1369205909 728267 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :First therapist my girlfriend saw actually recommended that... < 1369205912 324975 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeesh. < 1369205916 104560 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1369205936 178109 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Needless to say, she bolted. < 1369205968 50261 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And... yeah, asked a trans friend of ours advice. < 1369205981 368057 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Trans Underground < 1369205984 948942 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1369206135 941971 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :friend of mine went to Thailand for her SRS... apparently they have some of the best doctors < 1369206151 422585 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but also some of the terrifying cheap operations) < 1369206415 807626 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :She's been considering it. < 1369206430 609750 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.113 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369206449 109449 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kinda scary stuff though. Really gotta find a good surgeon. < 1369206476 866194 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah... < 1369206542 214118 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it doesn't help that the US incentivizes surgery. < 1369206571 127146 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(one can't have gender on most paperwork changed sans surgery) < 1369206639 440971 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone i know elsewhere apparently couldn't get her gender changed on her alma mater's documents /ever/ if she couldn't get surgery by the end of some fixed period after she graduated < 1369206644 117808 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :liike what even < 1369206672 668465 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some states don't let you change gender on your birth certificate ever. < 1369206680 773283 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whiiich means you basically can't change your gender. < 1369206687 406268 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sucks if you're not gay! < 1369206720 19849 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(note that marriage tends to be based on what the birth certificate says) < 1369206745 616395 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(yes, this means that gay marriage is *a okay* so long as one partner is trans and hasn't gotten some paperwork changed.) < 1369206784 475876 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kafkaesque marriage < 1369206791 531757 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :++ < 1369207124 418111 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shit be crazy. < 1369207605 847532 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least a lot of states don't care about gender for marriage anymore < 1369207611 568485 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and more states every month :) < 1369207667 111581 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quite glad 'bout that. :) < 1369207844 618160 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.113 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1369207991 623424 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1369208384 394690 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmmm. 1:39. Probably time for melatonin. < 1369208388 654080 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1369210578 134370 :BleedLikeMe!~spoiltvt@cpc1-clyd4-2-0-cust159.14-1.cable.virginmedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1369210684 631862 :BleedLikeMe!~spoiltvt@cpc1-clyd4-2-0-cust159.14-1.cable.virginmedia.com PART #esoteric :"Silentium est aureum" < 1369210800 881271 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: Gotta go < 1369211838 573565 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1369212301 48665 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1369212790 946847 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369213233 36786 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.112.130.90 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1369214355 24041 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1369214825 908754 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1369215116 377192 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1369215378 767405 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1369215585 257095 :GOMADWarrior!~Regis@189.4.93.192 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369215761 637360 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369215818 614858 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1369215883 926630 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1369215884 412534 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1369215886 291702 :GOMADWarrior!~Regis@189.4.93.192 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1369218156 712343 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1369218180 972876 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1369218729 671145 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1369219882 562735 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1369221526 928472 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369221727 182348 :Tritonio!~Tritonio@athedsl-19620.home.otenet.gr JOIN :#esoteric < 1369222070 184500 :Tritonio_!~Tritonio@athedsl-19620.home.otenet.gr JOIN :#esoteric < 1369222282 200984 :Tritonio!~Tritonio@athedsl-19620.home.otenet.gr QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1369227646 956956 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1369227651 199598 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369230687 812823 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1369232636 8576 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1369232792 199411 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1369233088 84997 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1369233126 688140 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good morning all, even the fternooners! < 1369234708 74696 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2013/05/22/blood-policy-men.html?cmp=rss&utm_source=feedly how far we've come < 1369234889 927128 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :proud to be Canadian. yééééé.......... :/ < 1369235535 711350 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's wrong with blood from homosexuals? it's like filtering to not have blood from blacks or whites or yellows or blues or whatever. < 1369236319 120344 :Tritonio!~Tritonio@athedsl-22324.home.otenet.gr JOIN :#esoteric < 1369236405 445166 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: the idea is HIV < 1369236465 905386 :Tritonio_!~Tritonio@athedsl-19620.home.otenet.gr QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1369236558 351047 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: afaik, anyone can get HIV? < 1369236630 627680 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. looks like testing for HIV is complex. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIV_test < 1369236664 894833 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not defending the heuristic, mind < 1369236742 446398 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that I understand. looks like the problem with tests is that you can get a very quick non-conclusive answer, but need a long time that may span months to have a solid assertion. < 1369236771 589121 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well. all in all, it's still some non-zero progress. < 1369237765 492734 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, also blood from the uk is banned in most other places < 1369238023 151659 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :really < 1369238042 286260 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1369238104 915421 :GOMADWarrior!~Regis@189.4.93.192 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369238160 157805 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369238170 256957 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: really < 1369238174 603065 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tainted UK blood, they don't want the infection to spread. < 1369238179 36286 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what fizzie said < 1369238194 601837 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the risk of vcjd < 1369238254 478612 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how... reassuring < 1369238275 237429 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the thing is it's very hard to screen for < 1369238326 691044 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so although afaik there haven't been any cases for ages they don't know that there aren't a bunch of carriers who are just never going to show symptoms < 1369238456 671384 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's also this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VCJD#New_concerns < 1369238496 300913 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369238506 169262 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: should i learn rust < 1369238746 816660 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell bike One way of saying it, which is misleading but oh well, is that if at every point on the earth wind was moving in only one (tangent) direction, and there are no spooky discontinuities, nowhere on earth would have no wind. <-- you mean "somewhere on earth" hth < 1369238747 24666 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1369238807 392660 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan... we just got the report back from the doctor, and... I'm so sorry... it doesn't help < 1369238816 395034 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they said that it hasn't helped for years < 1369238819 97924 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh darn < 1369238850 579637 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well we can only keep praying hth < 1369238869 121849 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why was bike explaining the hairy ball theorem < 1369239331 87807 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because he found it a hairy theorem hth < 1369239487 364334 :GOMADWarrior!~Regis@189.4.93.192 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1369239727 467005 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i think we logreaders might need an ignore feature hth < 1369240174 400275 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric : n.b. you might have to change your name <-- mr. mcEllister may not have to change the pronunciation, though < 1369240722 640030 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1369242010 487397 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: it was my fault. I had a mathematicese problem trying to understand hair on balls. < 1369242261 782255 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 QUIT :Quit: Etc. < 1369242995 3677 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1369243068 276062 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1369243405 664968 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar CYUL < 1369243406 91272 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 221700Z 15008KT 15SM OVC015 18/14 A2982 RMK SC8 SLP099 DENSITY ALT 600FT < 1369244167 29093 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.136.228 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369244396 326584 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369244977 29601 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.113 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369245046 776472 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric : shachaf: uh, I have a slightly deformed right pinky toe? <-- hm both my pinky toes have the outer part of the nail split off and sort of knobbly < 1369245052 471497 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1369245117 307648 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :outer as in right part of the right one, and left part of the left one < 1369245150 671212 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i've never thought about checking if that's common < 1369245286 732664 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm the google images either show obviously diseased toes or are too small to discern < 1369245599 186245 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1369245603 118835 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1369245690 702228 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan have you be trying to compare your toes to toes of strangers from the internet again? < 1369245706 342084 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, my modem's apparently still rebooting every 5-30 minutes, so I guess I'll be out of here pretty soon < 1369245712 950409 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :except for the "again", yes. < 1369245909 306014 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: probably < 1369245930 12087 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as far as i can tell most pictures don't have such. also i don't _think_ what i have is a "lister corn" - it's not painful in any way... < 1369245975 806777 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should ask my doctor some time. < 1369245989 610448 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you posted a picture of it to reddit? < 1369246016 646117 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: my research of the top google image pages indicates that most people have even uglier toes than me hth < 1369246038 136653 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: no. and i still don't have any digital camera. < 1369246042 468622 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kesuuntumisen alkuaikoina koirasta on ollut huotua varoittavana vahtina seka jatteensuojana. < 1369246048 631041 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1369246067 378031 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That looks like it's missing some y's. < 1369246087 854969 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And diacritics, but that's usual; turning y's to u's isn't. < 1369246118 480745 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: either that, or people who have prettier toes than you tend to put less photos of their toes on the internet < 1369246128 610661 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a language without diacritics is not a true languagë. < 1369246130 422532 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Do you have a scanner? Can you stick your foot in it? < 1369246136 670903 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: impossible! < 1369246143 904989 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: nope. < 1369246162 414683 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Given how many foot fetishists there are, I'd've thought it easy to find pictures of toes. < 1369246173 879866 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: google translate had some troubles with that finnish < 1369246180 743049 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you can send an analog picture to someone with internet and a digital camera or scanner < 1369246189 711426 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: It's supposed to be "Kesyyntymisen alkuaikoina koirasta on ollut hyötyä varoittavana vahtina sekä jätteensuojana", I'd think. < 1369246220 242401 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you were nicolas cage you'd drive through a red light and show your toes to the camera < 1369246235 645310 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I think that's almost right, but that's "jätteensyöjänä" on the end. < 1369246248 686648 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Oh, right, that makes more sense. < 1369246261 524141 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: I was wondering why you'd need to protect garbage, actually. < 1369246312 952484 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alun perin koirarodun muodosti ruhma koiria, joilla oli tiettu kauttotarkoitus. < 1369246314 693657 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok that helped but GT still doesn't know what jätteensyöjänä is < 1369246329 557091 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Someone who eats your garbage hth < 1369246347 947683 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks tdh < 1369246350 959669 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where do all those u's come from? < 1369246362 932652 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :They were originally y's. < 1369246370 632872 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but why are they now u's? < 1369246402 127437 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Preserves vowel harmony without äö < 1369246402 895584 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like u's. < 1369246454 298637 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how expressive you could be in Finnish without using any front vowels. < 1369246499 859361 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :U tube. < 1369246501 466059 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accessory_nail_of_the_fifth_toe < 1369246532 431410 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i never knew i had chinese ancestry! < 1369246550 934189 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1369246565 450601 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :please don't learn biology with wikipedia < 1369246569 19332 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369246581 913948 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :"See also: Mongoloid race" < 1369246590 928146 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"After Yin Wang stabbed her in the abdomen as she tried to escape, she gave birth to two children with a scar on the small toe of the foot -- and their descendants became born with double nails on their small toes" is that really how inheriting things works? < 1369246612 34141 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :totes < 1369246612 249350 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1369246620 998383 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: the knife hit the dna directly hth < 1369246661 431406 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :except the one in that picture doesn't look knobbly... < 1369246692 402345 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it look knively? < 1369246696 728283 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie TOPIC #esoteric :We drank all the throwing wine | Goal for 2013: hthiest channel of the network? | http://underhanded.xcott.com/?page_id=5 | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1369246734 734757 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're the happiest < 1369246743 294311 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops. < 1369246751 303188 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the most hopiest that helps < 1369246783 941688 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote throwing wine < 1369246786 73674 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1369246821 322618 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hairiest, hambiguitest, hon-topickest. < 1369246841 985966 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm *knobby, probably, there seems to be a difference < 1369246870 256354 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hairy toe helps? < 1369246883 189560 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you say so. < 1369246933 654180 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn hth is help received from a hairy toe. It is not at all hambiguitous. < 1369246937 844459 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1369247149 754697 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :new hth research is proceeding at breathtaking speed < 1369247280 143041 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"nail knob" is apparently some kind of device < 1369247329 951696 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION gives up his research for now < 1369247389 10267 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :happy to halt? < 1369247443 115464 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the little turing machine that could < 1369247545 958436 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369247555 947471 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aww, apport is cute < 1369247574 42382 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just had a failure to resume from suspend, caused by the laptop battery running out in the meantime < 1369247579 110482 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apport somehow felt that this was its fault < 1369247600 46319 :Bike_!~Glossina@71-214-84-201.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1369247608 249582 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1369247734 527103 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-81-94.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1369247771 490073 :Bike_!~Glossina@71-214-84-201.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1369248003 24663 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1369248376 68564 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369248436 871808 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :qmail is always very apologetic. < 1369248463 175014 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Hi. This is the qmail-send program at here.and.there. I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses. This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out." < 1369248672 321607 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1369249455 962470 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1369249610 367314 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are a few things that are heritable in a lamarckian way < 1369249626 806401 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :antibodies for diseases < 1369249936 521266 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1369251287 249748 :elliott_!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1369251476 323474 :nortti_!nortti@nano.smar.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1369251491 188731 :mysanthrop!~myname@84.200.43.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369251518 838480 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1369251521 927485 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1369251525 642723 :mysanthrop!~myname@84.200.43.57 NICK :myname < 1369251531 37255 :elliott_!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott NICK :elliott < 1369251561 750646 :pumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1369251764 314987 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :*.net *.split < 1369251765 314581 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@64.31.59.246 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1369251765 532178 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1369251765 826091 :abumirqaan!uid2969@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-raohhkyvuwiqsmbp QUIT :*.net *.split < 1369251829 915698 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Read error: No buffer space available < 1369251853 759588 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1369252110 533538 :nortti_!nortti@nano.smar.fi NICK :nortti < 1369252474 447830 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This frequent relocation of our web address was done specifically to please Phantom Hoover. (We're working on a brainfuck derivative, too, to make his joy complete. Stay tuned.)" < 1369252484 335384 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://catseye.tc/node/catseye.tc.html < 1369252660 907367 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: and genes? < 1369252695 107522 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-84-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :genes aren't lamarckian < 1369252697 742950 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-84-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :usually < 1369252869 849808 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mm, Lamarckian inheritance is apparently only things that are acquired during an organism's lifetime. < 1369252883 57774 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-84-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1369252893 427274 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not entirely common for people to acquire genes during their lifetime. < 1369252902 527661 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-84-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1369252914 130796 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-84-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what you're saying has in fact been a focus of biology for over a century. < 1369252932 690848 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Retroviruses and whatnot? < 1369252983 602849 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-84-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :retroviruses are pretty rare, and not what lamarck really had in mind; the classic example of the lamarckian idea is a giraffe's neck getting stretchier over the generations as successive mothers stretch theirs < 1369253100 347643 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bacteria will slurp up DNA from wherever, though < 1369253101 848164 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-84-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there are ineritable acquired characteristics, the most obvious being from horizonal gene transfer < 1369253104 885529 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-84-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1369253155 809163 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun biology fact: C. elegans eats bacteria, so if you want to do RNA interference studies in C. elegans you can create transgenic bacteria and feed it to them < 1369253312 105115 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-84-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I feel like I'm in an episode of Star Trek. The PCI ROM for the video card on my PPC system is entirely full of threes. Every single byte is a three." < 1369253483 177421 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know if you can convince them to reverse transcribe that RNA though < 1369253491 349199 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably you would need to feed them, like, reverse transcriptase < 1369253528 587784 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-84-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever gets us attack of the giant nematodes faster < 1369253543 502694 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we'll save earth at the 11th hour using nematophagous fungi < 1369253683 527968 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION pokes kmc to check if he isn't fungot in disguise < 1369253684 222861 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: at the first, we typically is most welcome the new: 50,000 member on the conference of the units of the matter that the other central banks in the warrants that showed the national securities exchanges. < 1369253701 630870 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION pokes again. "needs to be really sure" < 1369253726 909668 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :biology is a massive global project to reverse engineer machines designed by an alien 'intelligence' < 1369253729 915562 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty cool < 1369253738 679897 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-84-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :alien lack of intelligence < 1369253746 805184 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :more like bilology < 1369253751 205889 :GOMADWarrior!~Regis@189.4.93.192 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369253755 17700 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :more like bikeology < 1369253775 39729 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bikes are biological. they have fluids and bones and go around. < 1369253776 695133 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-84-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the study of making people insult biology < 1369253790 143595 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure there are long philosophical arguments about whether evolution is intelligent < 1369253793 763363 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bileogy < 1369253831 548105 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-84-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: biologists tend to shy away from anything that makes out evolution to be a directed, teleological process. except when they don't < 1369253839 146421 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1369253854 747156 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :telelological < 1369253921 76989 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :definitely evolution can't plan for the future, which is a p. important part of intelligence < 1369253937 512451 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and this is why the abstraction boundaries in organisms are all fucked up < 1369253940 139320 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :massive technical debt imo < 1369253991 28320 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :boilogy < 1369253995 165764 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh *man*, qemu's sound emulation is glitched. < 1369254002 787487 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-84-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In the Theory with which we have to deal, Absolute Ignorance is the artificer, so that we may enunciate as the fundamental principle of the whole system, that IN ORDER TO MAKE A PERFECT AND BEAUTIFUL MACHINE IT IS NOT REQUISITE TO KNOW HOW TO MAKE IT. This proposition will be found, on careful examination, to express in a condensed form the essential purport of the Theory and to express in a few words all Mr Darwin's meaning; who, by a ... < 1369254008 883452 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-84-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... strange inversion of reasoning, seems to think Absolute Ignorance fully qualified to take the place of Absolute Wisdom in all the achievements of creative skill." < 1369254028 379067 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems like as soon as the sound card started being used, it started to fail to actually change the audio buffer out fast enough. < 1369254047 229357 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I'm hearing a little bit of the Windows 95 startup sound repeated over and over. < 1369254055 653374 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1369254060 7781 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-84-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :brian eno's hell < 1369254152 59128 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, let's see if it's just the sound emulation borked. < 1369254156 20942 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup! < 1369254165 399506 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Once the sound finished it went back to normal. < 1369255550 419743 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1369255559 258862 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1369256327 935459 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 QUIT :Quit: nite < 1369256678 341952 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: http://grenzgenial.com/post/2414488498/javascript-and-the-brain-why-javascript-is-the-future < 1369256695 399727 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's THE BRAIN. < 1369256978 136428 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it orange? < 1369257719 159488 :Regis_!~Regis@189.4.93.192 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369257889 244943 :GOMADWarrior!~Regis@189.4.93.192 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1369257946 959268 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a) No types: types are stupid. < 1369257949 786873 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :glory be < 1369257993 259546 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this this guy serious and for real < 1369258030 361255 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a bad analogy < 1369258038 220586 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a bad blog post < 1369258090 335952 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :less bad than the one about pipes, I think < 1369258107 896112 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are pipes like brains too < 1369258127 773866 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: oh that's a good article < 1369258242 693396 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: are your brain functions first class? < 1369258242 928218 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: market short to them." < 1369258372 238226 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Funge-98 is like a brain because it has no types, right? Also it looks all brainy. < 1369258372 596012 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: for the complete name of slater is asking the bankruptcy. 35; and dynegy of today). < 1369258397 73449 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :imnsho, fungot is the future. < 1369258397 612415 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: all of the meeting on the street. slump that wasn't enough that the expiration of the market i normally do not have the balance of the my cdnow. < 1369258402 220042 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The dynegy of today. < 1369258414 724584 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: that's because you cdnow isn't balanced. < 1369258424 699622 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: happily that link freezes my browser < 1369258433 518296 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :\rainbow{JAVASCRIPT} < 1369258434 707658 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :as so many do these days < 1369258443 4263 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :did it also give you a seizure < 1369258456 299628 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there other links that can thaw your browser? < 1369258934 249073 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-143-116.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1369258945 314464 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-143-116.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I'm back < 1369258948 400305 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-143-116.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1369258958 580069 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :HELLO < 1369258991 791804 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1369259003 111996 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-143-116.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan I couldn't destroy the world due to RSA working. < 1369259003 367731 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1369259022 296194 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-143-116.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, how is everyone? < 1369259061 724690 :abumirqaan!uid2969@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-slehvbpfmflkrolv JOIN :#esoteric < 1369259596 879981 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: somewhat orange, not soundly emulated, mocking biololology, and combing balls. < 1369259610 64949 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-84-201.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1369259615 426659 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-143-116.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds fun! < 1369259630 797089 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-143-116.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I find the hairy ball problem difficult to explain to my friends < 1369259696 609329 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-223-95.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1369259701 256829 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem is that it's easy if you have a finite number of hairs < 1369259738 864332 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-143-116.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I generally get stuck because everyone is laughing at the name and won't take anything I say seriously for about 4 hours at least < 1369259750 620690 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I didn't even think of that angle < 1369259811 878814 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-143-116.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In other news, I tried to break RSA < 1369259815 695797 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-143-116.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't get very far < 1369259839 451037 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-143-116.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wrote a program that factorizes semiprimes sometimes < 1369260018 232818 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-143-116.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's probably better than trial division < 1369260018 468015 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-143-116.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But there's a few edge cases it doesn't account for < 1369260185 427316 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-143-116.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It works by a half-remembered wheel factorization < 1369260185 622174 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-143-116.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And by starting around the square root of the semiprime < 1369260205 322403 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-143-116.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But nobody really cares, do they? < 1369260221 981090 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.136.228 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1369260276 341315 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-143-116.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :On the other hand, I used mfix in a "real"-ish situation for the first time < 1369260296 894305 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-143-116.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the C pre-processor < 1369260847 476994 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-143-116.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I guess I learnt something! < 1369260890 381523 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did you use mfix for? < 1369260905 92670 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and did you consider using recursive do < 1369260909 665480 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is that not the same thing < 1369260927 341872 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :when he said mfix I just assumed he used it via recursive do < 1369260942 60624 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-143-116.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I actually used mfix < 1369260946 561057 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc it's all sugar for mfix < 1369260986 897652 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-143-116.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used it so that I can have in a thread terminator a way to kill all the other threads < 1369261070 854655 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-143-116.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because to kill all the threads I need their ThreadIds, but to get the ThreadIds, I need the terminator (finalizer? function that's run when the thread is about to terminate) which includes killing all the threads < 1369261245 771829 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, sounds like an odd problem < 1369261289 151935 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: Poulet! < 1369261290 795188 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1369261384 427295 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-143-116.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: I have 8 threads each checking different numbers for a solution < 1369261392 879158 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-143-116.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know only one of them will find a solution < 1369261535 416902 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-143-116.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that when one of them finds a solution, it kills all the others < 1369261535 648698 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-143-116.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does that make sense? < 1369261562 719811 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't you get a thread id when you fork a thread or something? that would make sense < 1369261778 545907 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-143-116.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1369262632 58489 :Regis__!~Regis@189.4.93.192 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369262850 159475 :Regis_!~Regis@189.4.93.192 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1369264255 175169 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :callforjudgement < 1369264319 949032 :Regis__!~Regis@189.4.93.192 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1369264438 7491 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.113 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1369264550 598709 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you do < 1369264579 945122 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t forkIO < 1369264581 137986 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in scope: `forkIO' < 1369264585 921097 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, fuck you lambdabot < 1369264598 773682 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forkIO :: IO () -> IO ThreadId < 1369264625 732294 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ty Control.Concurrent.forkIO < 1369264627 75759 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IO () -> IO GHC.Conc.Sync.ThreadId < 1369264639 49612 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :great name < 1369264643 842802 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-223-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :concsync < 1369264651 983117 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :h8r < 1369264664 868392 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i saw two mourning doves! < 1369264672 196332 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they were kind of small. they might be young < 1369264678 637845 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i bought two cadbury flakes! < 1369264681 574272 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what were they mourning < 1369264712 996396 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :who knows man < 1369264717 410468 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably nothing < 1369264721 210339 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're birds < 1369264732 462888 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa dude < 1369264737 48278 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know why rock doves outnumber mourning doves like 100x here < 1369264902 747128 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rock doves aka pigeons < 1369264906 721907 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1369264924 843095 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe mourning doves are less suited to eating trash < 1369264949 565516 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's that rock doves are bigger and more aggressive and will scare them off < 1369265011 949080 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :rock doves rock hth < 1369265023 229658 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :tdnh < 1369265121 42756 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, do you have an opinion about GeneralUser? < 1369265143 900471 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe there's a reason the doves are mourning. < 1369265176 998182 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should fix my apt < 1369265384 663253 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Things I shouldn't do: Generate a file full of locations of decade-old objects that anyone can destroy if they get their hands on the location < 1369265410 286628 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I've been thinking of generating the file and giving it to trustworthy groups < 1369265479 815891 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wh < 1369265542 749083 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Non-paying users in Active Worlds don't get accounts, but they can build. Their builds, given account number 0, can be deleted by anyone. < 1369265555 654992 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are such builds that are over a decade old. < 1369265585 181031 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-223-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that would be way less dorky and silly a thing to say if you meant real objects < 1369265585 376111 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't help wondering what the oldest is, can't help wondering where some of these places are, secret tourist builds, etc. < 1369265739 423590 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: wait you thought it was about real objects? < 1369265825 324982 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-223-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for like half a second < 1369265849 411351 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lHgbbM9pu4 (DS9 spoilers) < 1369265863 758371 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: what should i do with my second cadbury flake < 1369265899 955337 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1369266428 60184 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Password generation and encryption can sometimes take more than 30 minutes. Please wait at least 15 minutes after launching an instance before trying to retrieve the generated password." < 1369266431 264961 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Grah that's annoying < 1369266510 165143 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://flux-labs.com/2013/03/duplicating-house-keys-using-a-3d-printer/ < 1369266511 534366 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck yeah < 1369266512 879996 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :key hacking < 1369266529 337985 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you have the capability to manufacture ~50 keys then you can easily escalate privileges from a single-door key to a master key < 1369266543 493346 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not in the article, but it's a true fact < 1369266590 92921 :Regis__!~Regis@189.4.93.192 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369266768 335399 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1369266776 594102 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : Proposal: rename "Monad" to "Burrito" < 1369266776 828030 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :an actually useful application of 3d printers < 1369267113 245922 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my friend has a 3D printer and has printed a variety of useful household shit with it