< 1369440014 982041 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : OS/ABI: UNIX - System V < 1369440018 919060 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Machine: Atmel AVR 8-bit microcontroller < 1369440077 364278 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has a provision for 'undefined behavior' < 1369440132 624016 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.136.228 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1369440296 782414 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :avr-gcc creates an image that will I think execute whatever happened to be in flash before < 1369440305 94742 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :after the standard bss-zeroing routine < 1369440659 162602 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"main;" is undefined behavior, presumably. < 1369440667 2309 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does a syntax error count as crashing? < 1369440777 53433 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1369440792 362321 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi mnoqy < 1369440805 733191 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how's the worst thing in the world < 1369440852 632506 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1369440857 694256 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i havent been around < 1369440860 292423 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should be telling me! < 1369440874 579824 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should? < 1369440882 413938 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would i make your life miserable < 1369440961 243474 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: how's CFTWM goin'g < 1369441147 892566 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's that < 1369441207 72492 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :categories for the working mississippian < 1369441217 594295 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not a ctf sorry :"( < 1369441243 382765 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Capture The Flag With Mnoqy < 1369441297 224683 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :SGEO_: HEY IT"S FRIDAY WHERE"S MY ~OLIST < 1369441306 462883 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: im still in my "first pass" where im just reading it while im waiting for things like between classes and not really spening a lot of time on the exercies < 1369441310 743307 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~OLIST < 1369441345 952504 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: ok and "how s it goin g" < 1369441414 671312 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: im "on" the kan extensions section but i might go back and do some of the exercises now....the "initial pass" thing is starting to break down < 1369441494 252546 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh boy kan exntesoins < 1369441551 824386 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: do you play the game where you type a ^W ^Y ^Y ^W ^Y ^Y ^W ^Y ^Y ... < 1369441583 12939 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do now < 1369441646 603254 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :watch out for "using up all your memory" < 1369441651 3360 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sha chafchafsha chafchafchafchafsha chafchafsha chafchafchafchafchafchafchafchafsha chafchafsha chafchafchafchafsha chafchafsha chafchafchafchafchafchafchafchaf < 1369441665 473130 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :also ^U works if you have spaces < 1369441751 421002 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :((((\x. x x)(\x. x x))((\x. x x)(\x. x x)))(((\x. x x)(\x. x x))((\x. x x)(\x. x x))))((((\x. x x)(\x. x x))((\x. x x)(\x. x x)))(((\x. x x)(\x. x x))((\x. x x)(\x. x x)))) < 1369441831 479558 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1369441853 403042 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :B Bi Bik Bike ike ke e < 1369441874 13216 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> unwords $ liftA2 (++) inits tails "Bike" < 1369441875 381309 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : " B Bi Bik Bike Bike ike ke e " < 1369441885 643282 :objobj!~john@host86-130-160-2.range86-130.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1369441926 191852 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1369441960 88909 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome objobj < 1369441962 293322 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :objobj: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1369442251 533435 :objobj!~john@host86-130-160-2.range86-130.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1369442256 502698 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen__ < 1369442275 454900 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett, I should read the ruleset someday < 1369442294 363731 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it on your to-do list? < 1369442314 473365 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't particularly have a formal to-do list < 1369442317 6986 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should < 1369442381 924178 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've found making one monolithic to-do list to be more useful than all other anti-procrastination techniques combined. < 1369442446 536185 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1369442557 144169 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elevator_algorithm < 1369442568 593713 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was hoping to read about algorithms that elevators use... < 1369442653 313569 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1369442657 284361 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :play SimTower < 1369442736 903873 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :objobj is gone. :-( < 1369442747 153615 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :After 15 years of not using IRC. < 1369442747 823429 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder how sophisticated lift programming is these days < 1369442829 234550 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The algorithm described in thar article does not seem like it would necessarily be the best, but it does seem like it would be good at making people on the elevator not get angry < 1369442893 333637 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, i guess you have limited control once people actually get into them < 1369443370 94152 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369443845 634452 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do intrusive thoughts get worse with sleep deprivation? < 1369443892 364482 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that like "intrusive data structures" < 1369443912 959377 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1369444255 514678 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But how do you get from the passphrase to the AES encryption key? I couldn’t find it documented anywhere, so I had to dig through the OpenSSL source to find it: < 1369444258 515239 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Append the first 8 bytes of the IV to the passphrase, without a separator (serves as a salt). < 1369444261 434451 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Take the MD5 hash of the resulting string (once). < 1369444294 454 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this how the key for encrypting my ssh private key is generated :'( < 1369444306 314613 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep apparently < 1369444312 794889 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you can upgrade to pbkdf2 < 1369444315 554216 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that article says how < 1369444355 574767 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: I'm not sure but I would believe it. certainly visual and auditory (pseudo)hallucinations do < 1369444374 705467 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I stay up long enough I start to see illusory patterns on textured surfaces, hear music in white noise, etc < 1369444393 754796 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes hear whispering voices that i can't quite make out < 1369444403 615670 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a pseudohallucination because I know that these things aren't real < 1369444407 44846 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :similar effects to LSD really < 1369444412 274997 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in that respect) < 1369444477 44857 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love the hallucinations from staying up long enough < 1369444494 714890 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so easy? < 1369444539 747702 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. :-( < 1369445478 5570 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should drink from the clear jar that says "WINE" on it in magic marker < 1369445531 105971 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used to get a warm fuzzy feeling from staying up long enough. < 1369445568 325383 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nowadays it just feels awful. < 1369445583 835809 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think kmc told me I was getting old. < 1369445616 235976 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1369445622 635887 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think shachaf and i are getting old at the same rate < 1369445651 406650 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ratio of our ages is getting closer to 1 :'( < 1369445729 205845 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess next week I'll get old a bit less due to traveling at 0.0000008c for a few hours < 1369445733 615598 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'pretty fast imo' < 1369445762 626034 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :'pretty slow imo' - photon < 1369445779 635779 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :photons can't talk, you're thinking of phonons < 1369445788 86213 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is your flight all planned and booked < 1369445792 755842 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1369445812 506959 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :who booked it, the non-profit or the non-non-profit < 1369445816 546532 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the latter < 1369445838 81578 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :99% profit free < 1369445870 795583 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you'll move to sf and i'll move to boston to balance things out < 1369445879 208379 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mar 29: B6 633 BOS→SFO; Jun 4: AA 1530 SJC→ORD, AA 1358 ORD→BOS < 1369445881 468798 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :o no < 1369445889 396152 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no plans to though < 1369445929 175867 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're flying via ORD? < 1369445937 405930 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1369445973 342231 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :By the timing of those flights you're not stopping there to meet people, though. < 1369445988 226597 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :correct, they just scheduled a 1-stop flight for whatever reason < 1369445994 906390 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1369446041 96349 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a hotel in Mountain View for the 29th and the 2nd and 3rd < 1369446081 86270 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And in between? < 1369446087 496126 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :will stay with friends in SF < 1369446104 437332 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hotel is useful so that i don't have to take caltrain at ass o' clock < 1369446205 443398 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I need to be in SF sometime between 10 and 13 sometime. < 1369446555 908007 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could go on Friday and we could hang out after < 1369446616 7139 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1369446740 416994 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's possible. < 1369446799 82914 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it hard for you to get to SF? < 1369446819 236915 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not particularly? < 1369446830 366998 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you within walking distance of caltrain < 1369446852 176441 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know where I live. < 1369446857 426717 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not precisely < 1369446890 857299 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Newell Rd. & Woodland Ave. < 1369446904 318067 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds picturesque < 1369446919 217049 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so close to ikea < 1369446929 936695 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep. < 1369446933 673545 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never been there, though. < 1369446943 201563 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have good meatballs, I guess that doesn't interest you though < 1369446949 127488 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well 'good' may be hasty < 1369446952 266330 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have meatballs < 1369446963 187037 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :a good meatball is a dead meatball < 1369446971 596969 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the meatballs are surprisingly non-awful for food that comes from a furniture store < 1369447004 86846 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like a 2 mile walk to caltrain < 1369447021 606626 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is also a bus. < 1369447023 276763 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's weird how south bay seems so sprawly but it's only like 5 miles across < 1369447026 56991 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :1D sprawl < 1369447041 287694 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And such. < 1369447075 844884 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://25.media.tumblr.com/bb51dc73f8ee1ac2365c692ca981dcc2/tumblr_mnbb9ivnPE1r0ix14o1_500.jpg < 1369447096 227346 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :clever < 1369447109 526791 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1369447131 676977 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not clever) < 1369447148 893015 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ah) < 1369447155 536423 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :moffett field has a light rail connection < 1369447295 237241 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, maybe I just need to send this by mail. < 1369447299 527264 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh well. < 1369447313 317312 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to print out a form. :-( < 1369447321 747634 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION doesn't have a printer. < 1369447408 66756 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm this sign says "NO BIKES ALLOWED INSIDE" < 1369447415 268733 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://local.fedex.com/ca/east-palo-alto/ < 1369447432 536874 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep. < 1369447441 363277 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, bluff your way into a computer lab at stanford? < 1369447449 857855 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hear grad students will do anything for free food < 1369447461 403097 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :One time I went to one of those places to have a thing scanned. < 1369447478 836635 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :then i left the original behind "woops" < 1369447532 408236 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it had my social security number on it "double woops" < 1369447546 329465 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"all sorts of woopses that day" < 1369447569 227358 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops :( < 1369447813 998678 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I can go to the consulate on Friday and have them print it. < 1369447849 259013 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: Come on. < 1369447860 97835 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, I hate you < 1369447873 554523 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Assuming that you were joking about it not being... oh... dammit\ < 1369447887 426924 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I confused edwardk and ekmet... wait... I'm still confused < 1369447952 617119 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: If you address me with " ::" I won't tell you the answer. < 1369448070 767834 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ad-dressing of chafs < 1369448086 116208 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@nixon is a cat a dog? < 1369448086 361819 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solutions are not the answer. < 1369448102 438327 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@nixon nixon nixon < 1369448102 637848 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never canceled a subscription to a newspaper because of bad cartoons or editorials. If that were the case, I wouldn't have any newspapers or magazines to read. < 1369448221 607361 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Ok. What's the answer? < 1369448229 727885 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the question? < 1369448241 909192 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Who wrote the Pong example for lens? < 1369448244 458321 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :haasn < 1369448246 667244 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.marriedtothesea.com/052313/goddamned-government.gif < 1369448297 777798 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :marriedtothekmsea.com < 1369448312 68233 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hunt ducks with a quad .50 cal < 1369448417 367576 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use one of these: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AW50 < 1369448425 867534 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :shotguns are for weaklings < 1369448496 977471 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :only problem is that there isn't much of the duck left < 1369448525 174264 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: wasn't that the goal in the first place < 1369448533 798684 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric : Iwas hoping to eat it < 1369448579 837275 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :AW50? i prefer AN602 for my ducks < 1369448640 820333 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i use one of those ABM lasers, cooks 'em before they hit the ground < 1369448643 687580 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1369448658 747932 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently the Predator C / Avenger has one of those o_O < 1369448665 598505 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :drone vs. ballistic missile < 1369448703 993730 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we were watching this promo video earlier https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0dHKWjXn-E < 1369448732 738261 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you've been on the fence about buying an Avenger combat UAV, this will surely change your mind < 1369448744 307696 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was actualy considering it < 1369448746 767856 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :do they take bitcoin? < 1369448757 668039 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :one hopes < 1369448802 838583 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think most drones are pretty slow, but in theory you could make one that goes Mach 3+ and is capable of insane dogfighting maneuvers < 1369448814 767657 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you don't have to worry about killing a human with acceleration < 1369448818 611419 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway that would be cool < 1369448829 638337 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably not that useful in combat < 1369448868 265491 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :how often do we actually dogfight these days < 1369448888 440348 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :approximately never < 1369448894 217704 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1369448897 378123 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :main goal of those big-ass fighters is to stroke powerful generals' manliness boners < 1369448904 69043 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUE-cTsaK6g < 1369448911 469895 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well they are mostly fighter-bombers these days < 1369448929 226967 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can shoot down a dozen migs as you bomb those SAM sites < 1369448965 357734 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :tangos on your six < 1369449035 678354 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: that's a promotional video for a computer game right < 1369449040 928557 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1369449053 871730 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well Modern Warfare is a computer game < 1369449071 333501 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've always wanted attrition tolerance < 1369449074 22066 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if they're actually worried about ballistic missile launchers like that < 1369449093 358133 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'( < 1369449094 617928 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :now this is a real wartime maneuver: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOaGhE_sejI < 1369449095 857752 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I think so < 1369449122 137022 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in syria the weapons mostly seem to be completely psychotic, like slingshots, air-to-air missiles being used as ground artillery, or something called a "hell cannon" which is apparently made out of a tractor and a lack of safety < 1369449130 727906 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and trebuchets < 1369449135 544446 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1369449185 920884 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: fantastic. < 1369449194 668085 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :weapons of the 21st century: twitter, windows viruses, trebuchets < 1369449234 34894 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i read an interview with some islamic militia guys today and they mentioned that theyw ere missing various body parts, from unsafe weapons assembly rather than combat < 1369449283 955927 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: also i can't see that game without thinking of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h62DArOGbj8 < 1369449293 209391 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly because i haven't played it and only know about games from the tubes. < 1369449344 688177 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess those are S-300 ballistic missile systems < 1369449368 788110 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :er no that's a SAM not a ballistic missile < 1369449387 550265 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno < 1369449405 298850 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, those were the ones a russian 747 supposely got shot by < 1369449414 391403 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :russian... whatever. passenger plane < 1369449416 811544 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck technology < 1369449435 908146 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :S-400 Triumf < 1369449454 388307 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that video has good youtube comments < 1369449486 848649 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: nice < 1369449516 284876 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also see "very fun", for a few jihad jeeps < 1369449782 722336 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and uh jihad jets < 1369449818 68507 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bashir can be DUMB sometimes < 1369449857 289434 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks for that being some nerd thing and not bashar < 1369450023 69309 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if i run out of rum < 1369450053 220929 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is rum good < 1369450067 779558 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i like rum raisin ice cream will i like rum < 1369450133 689062 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably not < 1369450376 950247 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :of the various boozes, rum is not my favorite < 1369450390 790267 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I do like rum raisin < 1369450397 659410 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :drinking rum and ginger ale atm < 1369450421 189044 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's copumpkin's favourite? < 1369450428 49149 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1369450448 959565 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :well in the past couple of years, my gf's parent try to emboozen me when I go visit < 1369450453 609713 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that's wuliangye and moutai < 1369450468 906670 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :two chinese liquors that are strong and interesting in my opinion < 1369450471 179659 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :she hates them < 1369450479 139124 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :wuliangye in particular is very good < 1369450487 729027 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise, I don't mind tequila too much < 1369453129 570641 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :current status: playing SimTower in Wine in Xephyr < 1369453141 961476 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :amazingly SimTower doesn't play well with Xmonad < 1369453171 240925 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: You should make kmcwm! < 1369453174 680510 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION would use that. < 1369453194 561264 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wmcallister < 1369453248 781547 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wm. Callister < 1369453268 841819 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my WM will have a special mode for SimTower < 1369453336 42250 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you talking about that windows 95 allocator thing < 1369453517 771741 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :welp it crashes when i try to save < 1369453832 461246 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ty (.) < 1369453833 841347 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(b -> c) -> (a -> b) -> a -> c < 1369453873 431558 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ty flip < 1369453874 785649 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a -> b -> c) -> b -> a -> c < 1369453878 648180 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ty (++) < 1369453879 852050 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[a] -> [a] -> [a] < 1369453914 111367 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: ☝ < 1369453949 751379 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1369454380 912075 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1369455625 732868 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com TOPIC #esoteric :Too weird to live, and too rare to die. | http://underhanded.xcott.com/?page_id=5 | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ | I vote TYHJÄ. < 1369455893 612630 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :TYHJÄ. means "EMPTY."? < 1369455920 143216 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe instead of uploading to youtube < 1369455925 222997 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could play with icecast a little bit < 1369455956 963307 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, it's mp3 streaming? < 1369455957 712952 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh < 1369456126 583197 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1369456164 652695 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmmmmmmmm do i have any kimchi < 1369456170 113619 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders if it would be possible to have fluidsynth directly output to icecast, or whether I need files < 1369456215 103178 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shin_Ramyun so good < 1369456307 333262 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the < 1369456307 612926 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :eighth heavenly stem < 1369456515 923882 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fluidsynth: warning: Ignoring sample *KPianoB5: can't use ROM samples < 1369457051 156529 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin NICK :dog < 1369457063 14725 :dog!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin NICK :copumpkin < 1369457324 123546 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :rum status: demolished < 1369457363 913674 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc is victorious once again < 1369457537 693835 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :he who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man < 1369458131 807153 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/user/danooct1/videos fantastic. < 1369461234 247509 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1369461254 876053 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`WeLcOmE mnoqy < 1369461257 36473 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :MnOqY: wElCoMe tO ThE InTeRnAtIoNaL HuB FoR EsOtErIc pRoGrAmMiNg lAnGuAgE DeSiGn aNd dEpLoYmEnT! fOr mOrE InFoRmAtIoN, cHeCk oUt oUr wIkI: hTtP://EsOlAnGs.oRg/wIkI/MaIn_pAgE. (FoR ThE OtHeR KiNd oF EsOtErIcA, tRy #EsOtErIc oN IrC.DaL.NeT.) < 1369461263 957059 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1369461280 896609 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: you bet everything on hi, don't you < 1369461286 446234 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if hi became illegal < 1369461294 66299 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1369461299 346666 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :there we go < 1369461300 987261 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :diversify < 1369461306 246575 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :learn some other greetings < 1369461505 832938 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i also know "hey" but i m not so good with "sup" < 1369461547 398166 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :sup isn't a greeting mnoqy < 1369461552 166580 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a command to someone to eat supper < 1369461564 756368 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a good one to have "in your vocabulary" but not a greeting < 1369461573 37736 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf i dont think you ve been around people very much < 1369461592 923897 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION . o O ( yes i have! ) < 1369461619 967824 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im also not a "how you doing??" or "howdy" guy < 1369461656 576570 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(THAT'S A SUPER MEGA COMICS THING BTW REMEMBER WHEN ALLY DID THAT IT WAS GR8) < 1369461664 576878 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-) < 1369461673 40563 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: those are both questions mnoqy. you only say them when you want to know how someone is doing < 1369461703 726758 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's also the problem where "sup" means "what's up???" < 1369461725 466707 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh, no, that's "'sup" with ' get it right < 1369461747 417015 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but here are some other good greetings: < 1369461749 986947 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"greetings!" < 1369461756 67433 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"ahoy" < 1369461766 105395 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"tomato" < 1369461773 347393 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"saluatations" < 1369461775 70358 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"hola" < 1369461796 666684 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, i think "salutations" is a fruit < 1369461824 253092 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i might be able to get into "greetings".....not "ahoy"...............not "tomato"..."salutations" is a bit awkward..................im not an "hola" or "aloha" guy < 1369461941 37405 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: but what about "holachaf" < 1369461950 777335 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not everyone is shachaf, shachaf < 1369461955 499305 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1369461956 677213 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :false < 1369461971 666837 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf i dont think you ve been around people very much < 1369461984 476961 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy i've been around all people < 1369461998 980281 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw i don t think you ve been around people very much either < 1369462012 667820 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah...... < 1369462020 697011 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"how does that feel, a taste of your own people medicine" < 1369462158 659641 :comex!~comex@ec2-23-22-255-183.compute-1.amazonaws.com NICK :TwilightSparkle < 1369462169 266547 :TwilightSparkle!~comex@ec2-23-22-255-183.compute-1.amazonaws.com NICK :TwilightSparkle_ < 1369463096 328443 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :TwilightSparkle_: I thought that was Gregor's nick! < 1369463134 428031 :TwilightSparkle_!~comex@ec2-23-22-255-183.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :just borrowing it < 1369463161 670668 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it's a character from that show. < 1369463165 280861 :TwilightSparkle_!~comex@ec2-23-22-255-183.compute-1.amazonaws.com NICK :comex < 1369463632 148033 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a strange channel w/ strange people < 1369463642 808566 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's why i feel so comfortable here <3 < 1369463660 838097 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :am i a strange people < 1369463669 8009 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1369463970 818770 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :People are strange when you're a stranger. < 1369464017 551103 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :A brown bird has made a nest on our window sill. < 1369464037 928860 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't be a stranger, fizzie. < 1369464142 919909 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like birds < 1369464146 368527 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you know what kind it is < 1369464221 38712 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if I'd react to hearing 'Sgeo' IRL the same way I react to hearing '' IRL < 1369464296 399532 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know your "irl name" < 1369464305 119516 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know "irl names" for........ shachaf and Taneb < 1369464308 738837 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and elliott < 1369464309 163791 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and me < 1369464319 608495 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott hird? < 1369464329 658719 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless that's not the real name.............. < 1369464336 259513 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hird's not unix < 1369464359 29192 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: is William Parker an actual name..... < 1369464450 697751 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :one time i called a guy i knew from real life but also online by his handle in public. how embarssing < 1369464467 138939 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :at MIT it is v. common to call people by their Athena usernames < 1369464477 409359 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :even among non-computery people < 1369464481 963529 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but i wasn't at MIT, see. < 1369464486 765371 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :welp < 1369464514 723401 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike has a billion usernames < 1369464521 459981 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :em eye tea < 1369464543 729629 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :do any of you know about long-distance moving < 1369464553 228747 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i should use such as pods.com or doortodoor.com < 1369464555 449113 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1369464561 299235 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :does WA->.il count < 1369464563 259280 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pack up my stuff, send it to storage, then i can call for it when I find a new apt < 1369464565 369375 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is that too long distance < 1369464568 778858 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: that is a long distance < 1369464574 179235 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you have stuff to be moved < 1369464580 360389 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :My father did. < 1369464598 718783 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you like living in .il < 1369464612 168689 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i tend to like living in general < 1369464621 29191 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wherever i happen to be < 1369464637 848882 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1369464645 359369 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does thov love life? then do not sqvander time < 1369465114 319136 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know birds. < 1369465122 569115 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I took a picture of it. < 1369465127 909418 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :link? < 1369465142 709473 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er, well, okay, I'll get it out of the camera. < 1369465346 42724 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20130525-birdie.jpg < 1369465503 50162 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, i don't know what kind of bird that is < 1369465527 914297 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a "Finland's birds" multimedia CD-ROM thing, maybe that'd know. < 1369465547 99340 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm called "fizzie" quite a lot in public, e.g. by my wife's family, even though they don't do IRC.) < 1369465564 369876 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it pronounced Finnishly? < 1369465570 869307 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1369465590 30038 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :FIZ-zi-eh? < 1369465633 719479 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: huh. < 1369465639 115712 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also you're married? cool < 1369465656 532126 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure I can say. If you type "fizzie" into translate.google.com, set source language to Finnish, and click on the speaker icon, what comes out sounds pretty close to a natural Finnish pronounciation of it. < 1369465675 181140 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1369465682 700020 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I think they've improved the Finnish synthesis recently, it used to be kinda bad.) < 1369465706 769504 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what I was thinking except for the zz turning into tss or so. < 1369465728 169534 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :finnish pronunciation is so good < 1369465729 243820 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :We don't have a native voiced 'z', which probably explains that. < 1369465759 475798 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :We don't? :-( < 1369465804 179691 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, *you* might. < 1369465836 149516 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also we think it might be a female blackbird of some subspecies or another, some of those pictures look pretty similar to it. < 1369465857 39943 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It is also called Eurasian Blackbird (especially in North America, to distinguish it from the unrelated New World blackbirds) --" I mean that kind of blackbird. < 1369465876 620062 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(There's certainly enough of those around here.) < 1369465915 69937 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Apparently it's only the males that are black.) < 1369466185 479939 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( my intrusive thoughts are now actually blocking out normal, unrelated thoughts < 1369466191 200422 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is kind of scar < 1369466192 659943 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :scary < 1369466204 69863 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's bad < 1369466215 620517 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it from not sleeping? < 1369466245 432037 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been getting some sleep each night, but possibly not enough < 1369466323 610390 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how much? < 1369466346 889757 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe 5 hours a night < 1369466395 453138 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not enough, long term < 1369466414 479696 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Going to get some sleep this weekend < 1369466427 570439 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And maybe try to find dinner foods that are faster to prepare/consume < 1369466564 422193 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://mchankins.wordpress.com/2013/04/21/still-not-significant-2/ fucking fantastic < 1369466832 927103 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: do you know any cofree things < 1369466845 234586 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: in haskell (or othe rplaces i gues.....) < 1369466914 47589 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really no..........is there a formulation in terms of adjunctions like with free things because imo thats the nicest formulation of free things its so great < 1369466945 492272 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :cofree means right adjoint to a forgetful functor < 1369466953 384748 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :just like free means left adjoint to a forgetful functor < 1369466966 211838 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't even know any other formulations.....help < 1369466981 921843 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"dual of free" < 1369467006 259368 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well theres an "easy" formulation if you take the adjunctiony version and write it out explicitly < 1369467038 927347 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i meant something that would give me a bit of insight........................i don t kno w < 1369467072 569065 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a h < 1369467076 611017 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway what are some cofree things < 1369467081 735983 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does cofree "truly mean" < 1369467091 121156 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mushrooms < 1369467091 478677 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :cofree comonads are one thing what are other things < 1369467163 81165 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hear cofree coalgebras are a thing < 1369467186 815704 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love things < 1369467218 111371 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like mushrooms < 1369467245 37039 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-bIPdYcq3LMw/T9hPOeF63YI/AAAAAAAADxg/NUByztXqJPI/s1600/IMG_9778.jpg < 1369467285 431771 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://farm1.static.flickr.com/51/149890243_d06208bb80.jpg < 1369467341 229012 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know how you look for a picture with Google Images and you spend the extra effort to find a picture that doesn't say what it is in the URL so that people have to go to it? < 1369467356 410370 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/go to/look at/ < 1369467994 302936 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://imgur.com/rQZPg0R.jpg < 1369468015 249290 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Too much work. < 1369468857 421139 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1369468893 900006 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1369470337 291124 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1369470735 18517 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am become death, the destroyer of rum < 1369470774 921504 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you destroy some more rum < 1369470781 736344 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :haven't you had enough rumdestruction for one day < 1369470786 74764 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i destroyed all the rum in the house < 1369470787 743164 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it's tomorrow now < 1369470802 165180 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :tomorrow never knows < 1369471264 718533 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-121-65.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1369471367 804423 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb < 1369471371 751282 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well well well < 1369471376 213312 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-121-65.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1369471392 358304 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Went as predicted yesterday: didn't get in. (Plus I think I remembered the PIN code halfway on the way back, to add insult to injury.) < 1369472214 537943 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-121-65.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, was that triplicate welling connected with my decision to learn Agda? < 1369472241 469127 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1369472249 384506 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You've decided to learn Agda? < 1369472254 427897 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good! < 1369472260 989188 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should teach me when you're done. < 1369472268 714512 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-121-65.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, that's why I mentioned it in #haskell and you responded < 1369472285 687608 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-121-65.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is the #haskell shachaf a different shachaf to the #esoteric shachaf? < 1369472305 315229 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was just greeting you in here. < 1369472311 924377 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure if they're different. < 1369472317 25300 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess they are. < 1369472335 55759 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.113 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369472711 759082 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369474761 980101 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.113 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1369475558 640571 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.113 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369476224 71504 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1369476559 346766 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1369476565 70265 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369476573 111 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:ae81:12ff:fe32:878a JOIN :#esoteric < 1369476971 656994 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1369477295 322135 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369477682 49762 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quotes shachaf < 1369477687 558278 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :531) elliott: GHC bug? Come on, it's the parentheses. The more parentheses you add, the closer it is to LISP, and therefore the more dynamically-typed. \ 572) Real Tar is GNU tar. You just ignore whichever features don't make you feel superior enough. \ 606) VMS Mosaic? I hope that's no < 1369477695 48502 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote shachaf < 1369477695 328144 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf says: SIKP, the cheap knockoff book that uses the less-known programming language "skeem" < 1369477704 279052 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`delquote 572 < 1369477709 665643 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*poof* Real Tar is GNU tar. You just ignore whichever features don't make you feel superior enough. < 1369477721 829994 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is GNU tar turing-complete? < 1369477727 712061 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :taring-complete < 1369477743 338690 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote Jafet < 1369477743 618466 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet says: unsafeCoerce takes any argument. AND IT WINS THAT ARGUMENT. < 1369477748 638920 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quotes Jafet < 1369477750 159002 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :812) I wonder if Red Alert 4 will use MMIX \ 837) The world needs better healthcare, social justice and wealth distribution, but a monads library for clojure surely won't hurt \ 940) This position is asking for "- Extensive experience with API" You're just not qualified, kid. \ 1033) Is there a debian package < 1369478074 678281 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.113 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1369478236 889294 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-121-65.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1369479042 628941 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1369479526 848122 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: any progress on becoming a huggier person < 1369479721 272507 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-121-65.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1369479997 747759 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1369480373 259710 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: maybe start by hugging some trees < 1369480390 129309 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"im on your side here" < 1369481094 928541 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.136.228 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369482666 468184 :constant!~root@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Quit: I found 1 in /dev/zero < 1369483278 100811 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1369484572 977217 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:ae81:12ff:fe32:878a QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1369485499 783556 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369485584 335682 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1369485589 182872 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-121-65.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi, cpressey < 1369486346 799909 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :A huger person. < 1369486430 402433 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can start becoming a huger person by eating some trees. < 1369486768 890974 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo you'd have to be pretty huge already to eat a tree < 1369486899 964438 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-121-65.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy, what do you think bonsai is for < 1369486921 668701 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-121-65.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eating bonsai trees is the first step on the path to being a huger person < 1369486986 665072 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah Yes < 1369487909 106421 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ANNOUNCEMENT ANNOUNCEMENT http://catseye.tc/wsj.html PLEASE READ as it concerns #esoteric THIS MEANS YOU yes you there reading the logs, i'm talking to you < 1369488146 335780 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the zzo38 reference. A zzo38 review in the WSJ would be especially surreal. < 1369488172 556146 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly his conditions would be even more bizarre, though. < 1369488193 635807 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1369488234 565993 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-121-65.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The... Wall Street Journal? < 1369488413 624650 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-121-65.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :By WWF do you mean the pandas or the wrestlers < 1369488416 453259 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-121-65.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or both < 1369488420 149067 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-121-65.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Panda wrestlers < 1369488459 166398 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unexpected bonus point: speech recognizers will perhaps start to understand esolangs better. (WSJ is a popular corpus.) < 1369488482 256228 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks wsj < 1369488574 157933 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 interviewed for WSJ < 1369488580 606522 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :my head a splode of the thought < 1369488659 507617 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I meant professional wrestling but... yeah, i'm out of touch, didn't they have to reacronymize it or something... i'll go look < 1369488669 316713 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-121-65.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, it's WWE now < 1369488686 786932 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks. i'll change that. < 1369489443 686597 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 + wsj = all kinds of awesome but it's difficult contacting him on short notice (though i do notice he's started a gopherized mirror of StackOverflow... fascinating.) has he dropped by here recently? < 1369489474 658096 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-121-65.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`seen zzo38 < 1369489479 357058 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2013-05-21 04:58:13: Does GCC have a mode to avoid warnings related to redundancy if they are made up by macros? < 1369489501 354500 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-121-65.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey, was HackEgo here when you were around last? < 1369489568 266763 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: yes, and EgoBot too, and lambdabot was in negotiations for being in here < 1369489578 356842 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i never remember what they're capable of < 1369489580 543226 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-121-65.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot has been here a while now < 1369489593 334891 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-121-65.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :EgoBot has a whole load of esoteric language interpreters < 1369489612 181825 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-121-65.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo is pretty much a Linux computer with access to the channel's logs < 1369489627 902013 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-121-65.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And lambdabot is for doing Haskell stuff, mainly < 1369489642 47823 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-121-65.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you seen fungot? < 1369489642 908624 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: formatting and weight-balanced trees). x would reduce to 0 < 1369489657 476618 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quotes cpressey < 1369489659 56994 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :108) * Phantom_Hoover wonders where the size of the compiled Linux kernel comes from. To comply with the GFDL, there's a copy of Wikipedia in there. \ 117) cpressey: I have actually done a waterfall-model project that almost worked That's where you have a flexible kayak that bobs and weaves between the rocks as it p < 1369489682 853592 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-121-65.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastequotes cpressey < 1369489689 626287 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.29632 < 1369489761 536248 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-121-65.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastequotes Taneb < 1369489767 481751 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.25328 < 1369489833 308897 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-121-65.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...I really do say a lot of stupid things < 1369489910 923540 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Have you seen cpressey? < 1369489911 337201 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: pretty interesting. will go there now. shopping < 1369489929 841959 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-121-65.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastequotes Ngevd < 1369489934 496484 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-121-65.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastequotes atriq < 1369489935 628229 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.3268 < 1369489938 352590 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-121-65.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They are also me :( < 1369489940 827787 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.8841 < 1369489993 127587 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-121-65.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1369489995 702183 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-121-65.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote atriq < 1369489997 646962 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1369490008 613408 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-121-65.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have /all/ the atriq quotes been deleted? < 1369490018 94549 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-121-65.as13285.net NICK :atriq < 1369490024 318395 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-23-121-65.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Time to say some stupid things! < 1369490140 897408 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I even had a bot in here sporadically once. Oh, it was terrible. Actually, there were two of them. One was written in Lua and the other one was written in R. < 1369490154 560480 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-23-121-65.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I once wrote a bot in Piet < 1369490157 920754 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-23-121-65.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It... < 1369490160 536076 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-23-121-65.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :was the worst bot < 1369490167 872127 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-23-121-65.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :On a good day, it managed to connect < 1369490173 277375 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is a channel of bots. < 1369490180 259818 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just barfed lines and coloured rectangles around, hey? < 1369490354 317901 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: omg hi < 1369490368 117531 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: omg omg omg HELLO < 1369490380 969103 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice I made a 2 omg profit < 1369490412 912191 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wonder you can't renew your domains, giving away your wealth so freely < 1369490448 73263 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you hit the patch where it "expired on Jan 1 1970" did you < 1369490560 879735 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :some kind of imbroglio between my registrar and the .tc bosses... i still don't know the full story < 1369490561 79534 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's back up now, though, and you should read this: http://catseye.tc/wsj.html < 1369490582 887717 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :my agents dutifully notified me of this link yes < 1369490702 377640 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :update: i got as far as "It should be held on IRC" before laughing < 1369490946 267761 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't WSJ have a lot of web-only blogspammy type stuff nowadays? i can't quite imagine an article on esolangs actually ending up in the print version < 1369491004 317535 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can only imagine it's a hoax or they don't know what they're doing sooo < 1369491019 648416 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well obviously they don't know what they're doing < 1369491027 478467 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but how much do they not know what they're doing < 1369491038 897646 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a lot < 1369491048 247750 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assume the blogspammy stuff <-> they don't quite know what they're doing < 1369491066 927969 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my unicode-fu for bi-implication symbol fails me < 1369491072 213264 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-23-121-65.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I had a news thingy, I would totally interview all the obscure microcultures I could < 1369491109 629765 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: i was getting all ready to show off my compose key powers but then i ended up with ←> < 1369491124 827448 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a lovably pathetic rendition < 1369491132 39498 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :⋄ < 1369491151 628025 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«—» < 1369491244 378405 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was actually reading HN regularly for a while there a few months ago. from context, i gather the interest is an indirect byproduct of "President Obama says Everyone Must Learn to Code" < 1369491279 758113 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :truly, nobody has done more for the esolangs community than obama < 1369491301 478008 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so how deep-rooted is this cluelessness < 1369491428 27889 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hesitate to make an estimate < 1369491444 877493 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: so you *are* going to tell them that your IRC nick is "fungot", right < 1369491445 625774 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i launch it via the help menus since the help thinks the program in such a way as to integrate properly with multithreading in scheme48. < 1369491723 148884 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: oh yes absolutely! < 1369491761 329016 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :disappointing: no WSJ emails in my spam box < 1369491839 478176 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: here's an estimate: will.i.am, Chris Bosh, Ashton Kucher, Snoop Dogg, Enrique Iglesias. http://www.code.org/ < 1369491891 810475 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also Hilary Mason, Data Scientist, believes technology should give us all superpowers hth < 1369491930 938597 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you've picked up the hth thing already? < 1369491945 444192 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently. < 1369491946 398615 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this has to be a joke right < 1369492009 602578 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :better teach the kids brainfuck i guess < 1369492082 661717 :root!~root@85-30.196-178.cust.bluewin.ch JOIN :#esoteric < 1369492106 421748 :root!~root@85-30.196-178.cust.bluewin.ch NICK :Guest91468 < 1369492124 248721 :Guest91468!~root@85-30.196-178.cust.bluewin.ch NICK :variable < 1369492137 628335 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: have you been updated on all the other hilarious #esoteric memes, like monoids jokes, and uhhh mnoqy what else has there been < 1369492154 261663 :variable!~root@85-30.196-178.cust.bluewin.ch NICK :Guest79742 < 1369492201 278677 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Waiter, there's a monoid in my soup!" you mean like that? < 1369492217 163609 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it goes like this: < 1369492219 330283 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love monoids < 1369492221 628653 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are so easy < 1369492239 508606 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can then substitute other things in place of "monoids", refer to things being easy by calling them "monoidal", etc.; for more information ask shachaf hth < 1369492256 108221 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or zzo. he might have a more enlightening perspective < 1369492326 568145 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm what else is there < 1369492358 908928 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: was cpressey around for the whole "hi monqy" thing? i forget completely < 1369492375 906977 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :starting to seem like this channel has to be the least funny place in the universe < 1369492376 738861 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i;ve only seen cpressey in here once before so probably not < 1369492412 29203 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-23-121-65.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was the "itidus learns lambda calculus" stuff < 1369492420 288454 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :RIP < 1369492455 276758 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think cpressey would have liked itidus < 1369492456 518634 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i miss itidus < 1369492493 163082 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-23-121-65.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's Phantom_Hoover's Tumblr < 1369492498 238891 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :was cpressey around when shachaf was Really Weird? that has to be a joke < 1369492510 465768 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-23-121-65.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that an #esoteric joke? < 1369492537 458870 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't recall any of these nicks with any certainty: itidus, mnoqy, atriq < 1369492557 184449 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you've missed out on so much *exciting culture* < 1369492566 632002 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-23-121-65.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey, itidus20/21 was a regular on here for a bit < 1369492577 778548 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastequotes itidus < 1369492580 927579 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastequotes monqy|mnoqy < 1369492583 408845 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.13621 < 1369492585 511153 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-23-121-65.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :He would share details of his life and ideas he had, which were all really crazy < 1369492588 806523 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.3154 < 1369492596 467837 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-23-121-65.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And he really struggled with learning lambda calculus < 1369492611 548770 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i asked Phantom_Hoover yesterday if i should be reading his tumblr but he mightve missed that. i searched, but found no tumblr that i could identify as his, unless he's all into cosplay now or something < 1369492622 62420 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-23-121-65.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm Taneb, and also Ngevd, I think you left just as I arrived < 1369492629 101308 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-23-121-65.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey, phantom-hoover.tumblr.com < 1369492643 445004 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-23-121-65.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs Taneb < 1369492647 769028 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :trust a web search for "phantom hoover tumblr" to miss that < 1369492669 769234 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.10952 < 1369492673 27002 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-23-121-65.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover doesn't update his Tumblr very often < 1369492684 34684 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-23-121-65.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :2010-09-06.txt:20:41:21: hi Taneb < 1369492685 84915 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :has phantom_hoover ever updated his tumblr < 1369492695 738907 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :'“Brainfuck$”. Kill me now.' yep, that's PH < 1369492711 435233 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-23-121-65.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, shall I tell cpressey the secret? < 1369492727 184991 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-23-121-65.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hang on < 1369492731 872931 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-23-121-65.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That Taneb can't have been me < 1369492734 963821 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno this is pretty great < 1369492748 779922 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote brainfuck$ < 1369492750 619614 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1369492756 792237 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote ^brainfuck < 1369492758 598950 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1369492773 628583 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :atriq: were you Ngevd before Taneb? I *may* have a fuzzy recollection of that nick < 1369492782 512151 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-23-121-65.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey, no < 1369492815 729631 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, ok... they all look the same after a while anyway letterslettersletters < 1369492831 580946 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-23-121-65.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It went Taneb -> Ngevd -> atriq -> Taneb (roughly) < 1369492862 771278 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-23-121-65.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway... < 1369492899 518704 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe ZOMGMODULES was around at the same time as Ngevd < 1369492942 829189 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey = cpressey/catseye/ZOMGMODULES and (exceedingly rarely) DrNinja < 1369492948 849185 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbiab, i have to run to the store < 1369493626 199189 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: also, i looked at your github when your site broke in case you'd done a _why and found toolshelf and wondered if you knew of GNU™ Stow™ or Nix which do similar things (Stow in particular) and are both "cross-platform" (although Stow is lighter-weight for that) < 1369493765 643948 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is also XStow with more X < 1369493773 808990 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but no X. < 1369495073 165122 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-23-121-65.as13285.net QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1369495097 371466 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: no, i did not know of stow is it really trademarked < 1369495129 114018 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: I hope so < 1369495135 663405 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd'a thought you'd maybe be more pleased that i forked yaedit for my own awful purposes < 1369495143 791907 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :since i have you to blame for knowing about it < 1369495151 20198 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh I didn't even notice that < 1369495165 263564 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm the worst, evidently < 1369495190 370230 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: speaking of _why did you see his new printer spool/book??? < 1369495235 377830 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have not actually seen the end result of it, but yes, i saw it... transpire < 1369495278 628236 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was reading HN regularly at that point, you see < 1369495288 44165 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the book is very good. https://github.com/steveklabnik/CLOSURE has all the stuff in a less printer-requiring format if you're ever interested < 1369495295 245694 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: my condolences on that matter, also < 1369495325 201247 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you. it was quite traumatizing. < 1369495354 766866 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This. How *dare* they. < 1369495364 207919 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: oh i literally just now remembered i saw the github issue! < 1369495365 418813 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the repo < 1369495376 795481 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that you opened < 1369495384 803417 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :my memory is awful :( < 1369495386 9422 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah don't tell anyone about my secret career as a rap artist ok? < 1369495424 870421 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :your secret is safe with me, everyone in this channel, and WSJ journalists who look at the logs < 1369495433 551496 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i actually think that was three months of HN-reading blowing off in an oblique was < 1369495445 297226 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*way < 1369495489 526478 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what's this secret atriq wanted to tell me? < 1369495513 167790 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you sure you want to know? it might "ruin the magic"!! < 1369495525 628246 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did somebody say secret < 1369495528 700996 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have to imagine it's pretty monoidal (am i doing it right??) < 1369495534 598853 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that secret, mnoqy < 1369495543 895219 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: i give it 6/10 < 1369495669 161018 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: so how is befunge-113 [laugh track] < 1369495688 949645 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh now i remember, i was going to read CLOSURE.pdf except us/them had bw/traffic issues and i never got around to it < 1369495721 678710 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ... < 1369495732 296120 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1369495755 267396 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1369495762 584444 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :esolangs.org is a parked page < 1369495767 317613 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :all of a sudden < 1369495768 346091 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1369495774 378202 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh-oh < 1369495786 912853 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess i get to send an email off < 1369495789 150905 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, ok, 20 year anniversary, ha ha, yeah, well, poo, i'm probably semi-retired at this point < 1369495798 209403 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o/ < 1369495809 262403 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow jeez befunge is 20 years old < 1369495856 784406 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok so the good news: esolangs.org is still owned by the person it's meant to be owned by < 1369495898 214214 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's, uh, expired? < 1369495901 439552 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and in the auto-renew period or something? < 1369495917 303866 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey is this your revenge for me mentioning befunge < 1369495999 158119 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :please say it expired on Jan 1 1970 < 1369496037 158907 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently 24-May-2014 19:21:16 UTC < 1369496040 20397 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then i can surmise some kind of miasma-transference from my own domain-name-stability-curse < 1369496043 574632 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is close enough to 1970, geologically speaking < 1369496059 265983 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH that's much better < 1369496080 624037 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh god, every time I go to send an email I'm reminded of gmail's awful new compose interface < 1369496110 239307 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dispute 'awful' < 1369496117 511085 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't < 1369496137 228273 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mm, have you run into the "you sent it but it's still a draft too" bug yet? < 1369496140 631201 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i refuse to believe there is a single reason to make it a tiny little window in the bottom-right of the screen < 1369496237 276525 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, you could always complain to Google, i hear their customer service is par none < 1369496313 655364 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but complaining to #esoteric is so much more satisfying! < 1369496466 324509 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually i'm not sure "par none" is any kind of recognizable english idiom but CLOSURE.pdf is taking all my bandwidth so i can't ask the internet what it thinks about it < 1369496501 705709 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google par none < 1369496502 728179 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=2451 < 1369496502 958255 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: Language Log » Par none < 1369496508 699397 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the solution is to piggy-back off IRC, naturally < 1369496512 877199 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=2451 < 1369496516 545638 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2013-05-25 15:41:55 URL:http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=2451 [86807] -> "index.html?p=2451" [1] < 1369496525 30686 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run w3m -dump 'index.html?p=2451' < 1369496526 444750 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: w3m: command not found < 1369496545 679369 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run lynx -dump 'index.html?p=2451' < 1369496547 853980 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ \ Configuration file "/etc/lynx-cur/lynx.cfg" is not available. < 1369496553 791656 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1369496568 2061 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should only irc on irc. < 1369496604 708477 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: apparently it is a mangling of "bar none" < 1369496612 453271 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is < 1369496615 513734 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's ok i can just imagine its a page on common misuse of english which explains it's probably a mix of "bar none" and "par excellence" < 1369496631 957277 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: hi you are involved in the conversation now < 1369496641 330525 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1369496656 304757 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :by Phantom_Hoover i meant cpressey < 1369496665 130897 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i guess Phantom_Hoover can tell cpressey the secret of his tumblr now! < 1369496675 12373 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"exersize" what the FUCK < 1369496684 919116 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: well it's actually a language log post < 1369496694 117150 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run rm 'index.html?p=2451' < 1369496697 946556 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1369496711 985880 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Taneb I want to RIP OUT MY OWN PANCREAS for writing 'exersize' on my tumblr < 1369496712 216418 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1369496727 299845 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1369496747 646702 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well. there you go. < 1369496765 166069 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and now i shall never know < 1369496782 42084 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the contrary, i think he just said it all < 1369496784 151490 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless, uh, that 'exersize' thing was it < 1369496814 331236 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :man, you also missed so many bans! even PH was banned! missing. out. < 1369496858 225672 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369496891 881718 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: was that a dramatic /quit < 1369496904 142610 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1369496907 475318 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sam Hughes made boolfuck? < 1369496919 713576 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was going to pull my own pancreas out but then i had a moment of self-doubt < 1369496936 583059 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :PH, I can assure you that nobody here would miss your pancreas < 1369496939 917498 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought, "was i really myself when i made that misspelling" < 1369496976 536732 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, esolangs.org does not seem to be pointing to the wiki < 1369497017 38152 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: i had to sell it to godaddy for drug money < 1369497026 454121 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry < 1369497070 246050 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which drugs < 1369497106 687648 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1369497107 785982 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ask kmc < 1369497128 542686 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1369497148 247349 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: http://catseye.tc/wsj.html you should read if you haven't < 1369497161 151676 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :& hi Sgeo_ < 1369497180 67293 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi cpressey < 1369497194 670705 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think people were recently talking about some language whose pages were down < 1369497250 499208 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1369497252 87963 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it was on my site then it was but should no longer be < 1369497274 448690 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and now the problem has quantum-tunneled to esolangs.org < 1369497298 346657 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone know how domain transfers work < 1369497298 950755 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1369497299 949141 :Guest79742!~root@85-30.196-178.cust.bluewin.ch NICK :variable < 1369497300 309235 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just In Case < 1369497307 455262 :variable!~root@85-30.196-178.cust.bluewin.ch QUIT :Changing host < 1369497307 665200 :variable!~root@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1369497319 506119 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1369497352 207875 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in theory, you get some kind of code from registrar #1, then you ask registrar #2 to transfer the domain to themselves, and you give them the code < 1369497358 916195 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as for the technicals i haven't the foggiest < 1369497376 674244 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1369497417 898955 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well we will see what the domain owner sez < 1369497450 700837 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: what did you do to get banned? < 1369497458 870339 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i needs mah drama fix < 1369497505 994347 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i may have slightly exaggerated the duration of the ban by omission < 1369497734 856657 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: also i think i liked, uh, that new language of yours < 1369497738 230090 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of 'em anyway < 1369497769 836308 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I'm sure you know which language I'm talking about. I don't." < 1369498118 359159 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a backlog of languages stuck in a "i can't call this finished and i can't finish it" state. the last one I finished was called... heh i don't remember. one sec < 1369498152 656060 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Exanoke" which was an honest typo for "example" that i held onto < 1369498176 59752 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not terribly terribly interesting but kind of cute if you like primitive recursion < 1369498218 608073 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh I remember that one < 1369498220 333449 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I liked it < 1369498239 306844 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :since then i've been coding in JS in an attempt to... make shitty HTML5 implementations of esolangs < 1369498261 789021 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could mumble some things about type theory and eliminators and catamorphisms and structural recursion and higher-order Ackermann and what not, but they would be mumbly < 1369498391 908399 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90-rdmsoft [XULRunner 1.9.0.17/2009122204] < 1369498402 471031 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1369498524 414435 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hey, esolangs.org fixed itself. < 1369498534 795209 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :merry christmas < 1369498535 684608 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o/ < 1369498645 254147 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how you have to restrict eliminators to get strict primitive recursion... < 1369498721 700296 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is reminding me of the fact that there are functions that grow slower than any computable function and that scares me :( < 1369498742 802655 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :none of that mumbly catamorphism stuff would apply to http://catseye.tc/node/Cyclobots%20%28HTML5%29.html -- you'd have to ask oklopol to do gnarly symbolic dynamics things to answer questions like why does it always fall into a cloverleaf pattern and can you predict how many "leaves" it'll have < 1369498749 575507 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait what < 1369498769 451011 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i... assume they are... uncomputable < 1369498816 443546 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: yes < 1369498834 294937 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: because imagine 1 - 1/BusyBeaver(x) or whatever < 1369498837 834102 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1369498842 995250 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah yeah i think i see < 1369498851 43466 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't it awful < 1369498929 833934 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yes. what's that quote by von Neumann? "In mathematics you don't understand things. You just get used to them." < 1369498932 27998 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: that cyclobots thing (which in fact I had seen before) reminds me of boids < 1369498985 637238 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah, you always know about one more thing < 1369499008 767129 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's my curse < 1369499097 257803 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're the inductive step of things < 1369499105 38255 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's any consolation I don't even know boids's rules! < 1369499120 61467 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: bringing it back round to structural recursion!!! < 1369499262 314708 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ftw < 1369499275 335968 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :trying to make some kind of fixpoint joke out of that but my head is starting to hurt < 1369499287 404223 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is this cyclobots thing? < 1369499306 103793 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is an about button in the corner < 1369499328 94022 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :alt. cpressey's memetic transfer device that he's using to control us all < 1369499331 146459 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which should probably be more informative, but there's a link to the main entry from it < 1369499366 706702 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They've made a figure 8 < 1369499432 163941 :alejandra!~canaima@190.206.176.242 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369499463 629394 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: so was befunge originally implemented in visual basic?? < 1369499475 647647 :alejandra!~canaima@190.206.176.242 PART :#esoteric < 1369499487 746903 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, take that, alejandra < 1369499542 848211 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: no, befunge was C from the start -- it's from the amiga era < 1369499598 529427 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :goes without saying, but i'll say it anyway: i only started doing anything in VB after I got a Windows PC < 1369499609 180906 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Windows 3.1!! woo!! < 1369499613 536456 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :visual basic for the amiga sounds exciting < 1369499624 199611 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how long am I allowed to stare at the cyclobots? < 1369499627 100308 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: my first PC was windows 3.1 too!! megacorp product buddies < 1369499638 453076 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you ever write anything in Wouter's E? < 1369499691 996454 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, how the hell was your first PC Windows 3.1? I swear you were only born in '95 < 1369499696 529460 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: until you successfully absorb the hypnomessage to transfer all your bitcoins to me < 1369499711 416056 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: sadly, no E < 1369499716 613504 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh, I don't even know what a bitcoin is < 1369499717 665593 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: my parents were poor < 1369499739 305255 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My first PC is right here, and it has Windows 98 SE installed < 1369499739 509469 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: damn. ok, stare as long as you like then :) < 1369499759 813039 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if I ever used 3.1 < 1369499764 565701 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've used DOS definitely < 1369499765 354399 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was expecting the cyclobots would eventually collapse but those are apparently making a larger and larger shape < 1369499776 885851 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have some fraction of a bitcoin but i have no idea where it is so i cannot help make cpressey bitrich < 1369499780 494884 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was one game in particular for DOS that I remember < 1369499816 991670 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone at MIT or CMU should start a rumor about a Bitcoin club that mined 10,000 Bitcoins two years ago and stashed them in a hidden location on campus < 1369499875 453090 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"mining Bitcoins" reminds me of BYONDimes < 1369499883 584960 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is that < 1369499895 715432 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would you ask < 1369499928 964737 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Micropayment thing that used to be used by BYOND < 1369499930 734427 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do they choose who to follow? I thought it was random but they appear to always end a making a perfect cycle < 1369499946 104811 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could have sworn they had a [fictional] backstory < 1369500193 864339 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"What are BYONDimes? How do I get them? < 1369500194 104934 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :BYONDimes were part of an e-commerce system that was built into BYOND. Unfortunately we had to remove the system because of widespread abuse." < 1369500201 256918 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still want to find their backstory dammit < 1369500267 994752 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like this APL implementation of Deadfish. cpressey has been one-upped < 1369500281 867620 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'Unfortunately we had to remove the system because of widespread abuse.' < 1369500286 476065 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :who could have possibly predicted this < 1369500319 664358 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: they choose randomly, once, at the start (or when you click Revolution) and it, well, decays into a cycle < 1369500377 579712 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but I mean it's not completely random, it's already a cycle when the choose < 1369500395 204323 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are no two bots choosing the same bot to follow, or no independant cycles < 1369500401 754281 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's a shuffle (like a deck of cards) if that's what you mean, yes < 1369500412 710675 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1369500422 394406 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't realize it was so simple < 1369500430 775102 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you playing with? < 1369500591 93610 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90-rdmsoft [XULRunner 1.9.0.17/2009122204] < 1369500602 225119 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1369500606 710882 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: http://catseye.tc/node/Cyclobots%20%28HTML5%29.html < 1369500616 804255 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: btw these space-filled URLs... < 1369500676 726991 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :neat < 1369500752 724925 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the graph of following is a cycle? < 1369500784 624982 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yeah yeah I'll... do something more mediawikiish at some point < 1369500834 914824 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: ok listen. you have to promise me to never describe something positive as "mediawikiish" again < 1369500905 354840 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i want to see 100,000 cyclobots as a GPU particle system with bloom shader and such < 1369500906 484917 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: understood. i regret how that came out myself. < 1369500931 174439 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :trails for sure < 1369500934 855136 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: um... do you happen to be familiar with a very old comic strip called "Krazy Kat"? < 1369501163 455134 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :where is this going < 1369501198 545354 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably nowhere. i just... it's the brick-braining theme. < 1369501227 546565 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat loves mouse, mouse lives to hurl bricks at cat, who sees this as a sign of love in return. < 1369501251 186106 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dog loves cat, stops mouse from throwing bricks whenever possible. < 1369501285 314978 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd be surprised, it's actually a really good comic strip if you can tune into the circa-1919 sense of humour. < 1369501289 335780 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Poet E. E. Cummings, another Herriman admirer, wrote the introduction to the first collection of the strip in book form." < 1369501344 465085 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The author is dead. Along with billions (or more?) of people. < 1369501355 204766 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1369501371 136011 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :was that original Sgeo_? < 1369501505 115409 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was quite unexpected, anyway < 1369501646 836298 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Even self-referential humor is evident in one strip, Offissa Pupp, having arrested Ignatz, berates Herriman for not having finished drawing the jailhouse." < 1369501664 55719 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey, sorry, it's just a bit depressing realizing things like that < 1369501692 725210 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Remind me to never show Sgeo_ any Virgil or Ovid < 1369501697 925688 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :definitely more than american billions < 1369502156 135310 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also you could color the robots in hue order < 1369502163 206265 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure you've thought about things like that < 1369502350 194946 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :? where'd krazy kat come from < 1369502482 726525 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I'm instead talking about simple instructions, burned onto physical media, for how to generate electricity, how to build a computer, how to build a router and how to reconstitute the Internet from basic principles." < 1369502519 463103 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reconstituting a web browser from basic principles seems.... oh, hmm, I assume that all websites would be wiped too in such a scenario < 1369502531 137059 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which scenario? < 1369502567 235539 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :An end-of-the-Internet scenario, I guess < 1369502567 855995 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/10/tech/web/internet-down-eagleman < 1369502569 31062 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Phantom_Hoover's tumblr reminded me of it, what with all the brick-braining < 1369502586 846734 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I don't think any of the four scenarios mentioned lead to a loss of code < 1369502606 86901 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting... i never thought about this < 1369502675 635952 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be interesting to design a computer to be built 'from scratch' in a low-tech society < 1369502685 525668 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes gotta throw bricks < 1369502696 799206 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need a lot of industrial infrastructure to make integrated circuits < 1369502709 115502 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :discrete transistors less so, but still a lot < 1369502728 58184 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.136.228 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369502758 176557 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not just a matter of having learned some trick that now anyone can do in their backyard from what's lying around < 1369502846 709592 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :learn this one weird trick discovered by a semiconductor fabricator < 1369502859 455784 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1369502861 787564 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the circuit design secret intel DOESN'T want you to know < 1369502885 729655 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.136.228 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1369502888 889743 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are vacuum tubes easy to build? < 1369502905 436255 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ingredient 1. vacuum ingredient 2. tube < 1369502919 479247 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We just need to build a bootstrapping system, right? Or we need more than just 'a computer' to build discrete transistors and eventually ICs < 1369502923 846346 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Texas Instruments HATES this one weird trick discovered by a Palo Alto teacher! < 1369502939 476419 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think elliott has it about right < 1369502944 36293 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hate it when i accidentally put the vacuum onto the tube backwards < 1369502959 456377 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think you need super awesome tech to build vacuum tubes, but it's very labor intensive < 1369502975 256604 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I misparsed what elliott into being "vacuum ingredient" and "tube" < 1369502976 29406 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: for ICs you'll need a lot of chemical fabrication equipment < 1369502984 952684 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :photolithography doesn't exactly jump out of vacuum tubes < 1369502987 216151 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you also need a way to get pure crystals of semiconductor < 1369503021 387704 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure how much of an element of bootstrapping there is at this level, i.e. whether a vacuum tube computer is super useful for building a simple transistor computer < 1369503024 477576 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think not really < 1369503028 656510 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cable-cutting is cool < 1369503033 497000 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :underwater internet espionage < 1369503035 614414 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course if you want to design complicated CPUs you need computers to do it < 1369503052 735939 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not simple ones < 1369503081 227013 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :y'know, i've never really looked into it, but if Konrad Zuse is to be believed, you *can* make 'em outta relays < 1369503107 466377 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably it's OK if the post-apocalyptic internet is powered by in-order CPUs with 2 stage pipelines < 1369503110 127569 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the funny thing about really smart people like Dr's and scientists, they know an insane amount about very SPECIFIC things, yet that crowds out the knowledge known as COMMON SENSE... no room left... lol... < 1369503114 196343 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :great comments on this < 1369503116 425972 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: yeah you definitely can < 1369503139 466323 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a lot of early computers used a mix of relays and vacuum tubes, afaik < 1369503157 806847 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :relays are really slow, but more reliable than tubes, is I think the tradeoff < 1369503168 806908 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sort of feel like if the internet is destroyed in such a way that you'd want instructions on how to rebuild it rather than just patching it back up again, then you are not going to be in a stable enough world to properly build the worldwide infrastructure you need for a proper *inter*net < 1369503174 188044 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://web.cecs.pdx.edu/~harry/Relay/ < 1369503181 646411 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1369503191 957652 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think if the internet was destroyed rebuilding it wouldn't be the main priority, yeah < 1369503232 376843 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe the idea is that thousands of years later when things are less fucked up someone takes an interest in your Building The Internet In 24 Hours For Dummies stone tablet < 1369503232 866236 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: cool, thanks. seems like it would be a lot easier to make relays "by hand" than the other options < 1369503250 67941 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the article says "The Web appears to be the single most important technology that has ever been invented." and while that's sort of true, some kind of internetwork was inevitable given the more fundamental technologies < 1369503267 286173 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there were internetworks before the IP-based Internet of course < 1369503278 446155 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and relays would make a cool clicking noise too, bonus < 1369503283 448576 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that contest is sort of dumb but i'd still go with fire >_> < 1369503284 276158 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kind of feel like if something really incredibly apocalyptic happens we should just let them figure out technology themselves rather than telling them they have to do exactly the same things we did < 1369503284 777122 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the really remarkable thing about the Internet is its relative openness < 1369503292 96995 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but maybe that's weird < 1369503315 616884 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I get scared whenever anyone predicts the demise of PCs < 1369503318 807156 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which isn't something you could guarantee by just writing down how it's built < 1369503327 146453 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know of other open platforms... < 1369503332 450616 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well it would still be nice to leave them some hints, you know? "pst, we tried the whole nuke thing but imo don't do that" < 1369503338 486423 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :iPads are closed, Androids are closed, Chromebooks are closed < 1369503363 116570 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.113 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369503364 377890 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: ok but... since when do we pay attention to Ancient Wisdom about Things You Should Not Do < 1369503376 467158 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Internet is so open largely because it was an obscure research project that got big overnight < 1369503378 526217 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i... if i were to make such a stone tablet i would only try to put mathematical proofs on it, is that weird? < 1369503382 573477 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe if we drew some sweet pictures < 1369503394 979383 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :included a copy of Barefoot Gen or osme shit < 1369503397 507103 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(except when those things are e.g. being gay) < 1369503418 40495 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: because it's more universal? < 1369503425 846303 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess what i'm thinking is, i'd rather leave some sort of marker that says, "yes! there WAS an advanced civilization here once." < 1369503427 78320 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if a future civilization was attempting to rebuild it, knowing what it had been, they would probably try to design all kinds of authoritarian control into it < 1369503435 587153 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: yeah :/ < 1369503443 406857 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Carve the proof of Fermat's Last Theorem into a rock. < 1369503447 377249 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A very large rock. < 1369503460 536479 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: look on my proofs, ye mighty, and despair < 1369503462 736836 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might take them a while to realize "damn! these are all the finite simple groups!" but, y'know < 1369503472 9880 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, going off of historical examples of apocalypses, of course one thing is that it's not generally a big simple event that kills everybody < 1369503474 186805 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was cpressey ever in Agora? < 1369503477 966473 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: Chromebooks are pretty open I think... https://sites.google.com/site/chromeoswikisite/home/what-s-new-in-dev-and-beta/developer-mode < 1369503479 988431 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369503481 57426 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the romans just sorta dispersed and became italians and such later < 1369503493 957980 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm aware that the line in Agora is a reference to something else) < 1369503500 701166 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and of course influenced the hell out of the northern european tribal fuckheads < 1369503512 353530 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :to the extent of some of said fuckheads later claiming to continue the roman empire < 1369503538 532343 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, neat < 1369503547 655788 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Holy Roman Empire, Ottoman Empire, Russian Empire and British Empire have all claimed to be either the continuation of or a successor too < 1369503552 336852 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: so they're closed by default, for user security, but there's a physical switch under the battery that makes them an open platform < 1369503554 543915 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :similar with the bronze age collapse (which still freaks me the hell out) < 1369503554 997894 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... the Roman empire < 1369503560 106472 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is kind of a nice way to do things! < 1369503568 16712 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: have you not read Ozymandias? it's short. http://www.rc.umd.edu/rchs/reader/ozymandias.html < 1369503581 826957 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: some Android phones also have rooting as a supported operation < 1369503586 766768 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least some of the Google Nexus phones do < 1369503605 427104 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and even without rooting, most Android phones will let you install non-app-store apps < 1369503610 897587 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's relatively more open than iOS < 1369503613 119192 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://25.media.tumblr.com/704e80b7dc2df2c76b4951c6217b84bc/tumblr_mlyva0Gpvb1qi4onao1_500.png apocalypse doge < 1369503616 956578 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: I'm part of the Agora diaspora. Actually I'm not, I have no idea what y'all are talking about, it just seemed to fit the theme and sounded nice < 1369503630 857422 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course there are many parts of the system that you can't easily modify even from a rooted phone, e.g. the OS running on the baseband processor < 1369503636 396577 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://agoranomic.org/ < 1369503637 666447 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the same is true of a modern IBM PC compatible < 1369503647 992273 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: also ++ for "look on" not "look upon" < 1369503653 966848 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not quite to the same degree though < 1369503690 636603 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i wrote look upon at first but -- sorry -- googled to check my wording < 1369503720 838867 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: oh that Agora no i've never been < 1369503733 967677 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: but I agree with the general concern that the openness of the IBM PC is a historical accident that won't be repeated < 1369503737 746604 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i stand by what i said about being part of the diaspora anyway < 1369503772 911637 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: still < 1369503773 896860 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://hackaday.com/2012/01/16/the-tim-8-is-the-smallest-8-bit-relay-computer-ever/ < 1369503807 686577 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the program is stored on receipt paper :) < 1369503826 440286 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_ did you even click my link............. < 1369503828 39318 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: historically computers have been fairly closed things for large businesses/military-industrial, yeah? IBM bricolage computers sorta grew out of that, it wasn't like a fluke, was it? < 1369503837 717087 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, yes < 1369503863 887013 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's amusing that on some old systems, a jump instruction would take time proportional to the distance jumped < 1369503877 747166 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. on drum memory, as famously recounted in The Story of Mel < 1369503906 787934 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I'm not sure exactly what you mean, but I think the PC was a pretty atypical project within IBM < 1369503933 251393 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i don't know about the history of computers to that extent, i'm just wondering how atypical personal computers really are < 1369503936 547164 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think they put up with third party hw clones for most of their products < 1369503972 47883 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there were systems more "open" to the programmer than IBM PC < 1369503973 207279 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In a crucial concession, IBM's agreement allowed Microsoft to sell its own version, MS-DOS, for non-IBM computers." < 1369503977 778460 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if less "open" in terms of clones < 1369503984 496819 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :DOS doesn't compare to a BASIC prompt < 1369503988 986762 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1369503999 577174 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but what about BASICA!! < 1369504011 766796 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and QBASIC of course < 1369504016 659491 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :♥ QBASIC < 1369504032 901107 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Once every thirteen years, the population of Finland begins sporing. New Finns emerge from the Earth, fully-formed, in the middle of this nationwide combination mating ritual and feeding frenzy. Avoid Finland at all costs during this period, but also in general." is this true < 1369504081 237812 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should get some qbasic up ins < 1369504128 946988 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :we had a qbasic craze here a while ago < 1369504223 967178 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :When I was a kid I had a book that had programs in QBASIC < 1369504235 885421 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also the Algebra/Trigonometry/Calculus the Easy Way books < 1369504254 777816 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbnjusltDHk < 1369504257 107472 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: oh? < 1369504271 188866 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: yes! everyone with their dosbox installations < 1369504272 816887 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was good fun < 1369504293 637127 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool, what was made? < 1369504318 158942 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made a HTML conversion of the qbasic help file. < 1369504321 212949 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeDOS, with a virtual disk formatted with FAT12 -- that's the stuff. < 1369504325 266827 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: why is yesod so cool < 1369504339 422866 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://zem.fi/~fis/qbc.html fancy < 1369504345 447468 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i'm trying to wrap my head around _why's prose and i can feel it stretching < 1369504348 388102 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbiab < 1369504357 829550 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It might have some misconvertered bits.) < 1369504382 567453 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i should contribute to https://github.com/ticklemynausea/gobsprogram < 1369504382 767108 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, it has \\s in place of \s, which breaks some formatted tables, for example. < 1369504401 657462 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: nice < 1369504416 204497 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(There's also qb.html which doesn't use the "authentic" colurs.) < 1369504421 908091 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone write a scheme interpreter in qbasic? < 1369504437 136956 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it have dynamic allocation? garbage collection? < 1369504445 242482 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i last touched qbasic long before I knew what those things were < 1369504580 318634 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1369504677 420647 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: it's not < 1369504701 997470 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: no GC < 1369504707 337828 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno about dynamic allocation < 1369504713 367719 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: othx < 1369504723 229644 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably you can call DOS with enough baroqueness < 1369504727 77288 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should try the whole maverick thing < 1369504734 448980 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: needs more classicalness, less baroqueness < 1369504744 837437 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it apt-get update then apt-get dist-upgrade, or just apt-get dist-upgrade < 1369504827 198799 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has dynamic allocation, IIRC, via REDIM. < 1369504879 617179 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least of sorts. < 1369504895 127495 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There aren't really any referencey things. < 1369504896 807854 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: the most surprising thing about QBASIC is that it's incredibly slow, i had to get a pirated quickbasic from an unnamed source in this channel < 1369505014 327351 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And of course anything is doable with CALL ABSOLUTE. < 1369505042 728192 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :People put machine code in DATA statements and CALL ABSOLUTE that. < 1369505086 934113 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://β.zem.fi/~fis/qbc.html#QEw4MDhh has an example. < 1369505142 597440 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's all DIM, DEF SEG, READ, POKE, DATA, CALL ABSOLUTE. Very fancy. < 1369505623 988806 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for future reference, does anybody here have journal subscriptions and enough contempt for paywalls that you'd let me leech papers off you? < 1369505741 528299 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1369505743 888269 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :esolangs.org is broken again < 1369505768 517623 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I blame cpressey. < 1369505836 199243 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I blame the lack of HTCPCP < 1369506019 330256 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :More DS9 or Farscape? < 1369506130 808396 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ds9 < 1369506141 298631 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: "all" BASICs have GC, for strings, no? < 1369506153 408019 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: oh, er, really? < 1369506164 17583 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd be surprised if QBASIC had a proper GC < 1369506168 284196 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe refcounting? < 1369506168 483577 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Business BASIC does not -- i know this from experience < 1369506183 398673 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, when the string table becomes full, it does a sweep to compact it < 1369506237 290518 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for MS-like BASICs... i guess the determining factor is, do you have to DIM strings < 1369506251 849221 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or can you reasonably say A$=A$+"!" in a loop < 1369506290 80621 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :granted, i might not call that a "proper" GC, 'cuz it's only for strings < 1369506441 970047 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: i can't resist. What is "the whole maverick thing"? < 1369506451 839199 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, linux < 1369506472 408770 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :never mind < 1369506477 848778 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, I think I'm already on maverick, I need to go to the next thing < 1369506512 488834 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the bad news is that "the next thing" is AROS < 1369506549 537407 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody, huh? i feel so alone < 1369506563 578784 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i can google for papers if you'd like < 1369506580 910089 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that only works for old ones!! < 1369506589 68959 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe in YOUR shitty field, bilologist < 1369506603 187079 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :woe :< < 1369506606 978840 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also fizzie might??? I HAVE OBTAINED ILLICIT MATERIALS FROM HIM BEFORE < 1369506626 506958 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha wow i googled this paper and got some fantastic results < 1369506631 716456 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, i'm on a campus connection if you're trying to get through paywalls < 1369506633 818387 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Cockroaches Are Evolving to Avoid Poison, Will Rule Us All - Gizmodo" yes you nailed it good job < 1369506634 18054 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if any police/wsj journalists are reading: it was cocaine < 1369506652 630071 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Roach Motel Vacancies Explained | The Scientist Magazine®" < 1369506657 348138 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: k < 1369506715 46805 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder why physics and stuff is more preprinty than biology < 1369506752 817505 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously i should just read vixra < 1369506813 625277 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Although some physicists may attribute this to biologists' secretive and competitive personalities," is this you elliott < 1369506824 379713 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1369506830 748833 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION takes the plunge into natty < 1369506834 446134 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :am i secretive and competitive < 1369506840 242793 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that what you think of me! < 1369506847 869245 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :now now, biology is only one of three areas of research for which i harbour disdain < 1369506853 789187 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :speech recognition is one of the others < 1369506856 456495 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the third... is secret < 1369506887 416700 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!!!!! < 1369506897 143651 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it marxist critical theory < 1369506913 348412 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess again < 1369506920 979997 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Secret? < 1369506939 110188 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Steganography? < 1369506957 838982 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, guys, it's the Forbidden Subject < 1369506962 678798 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@? < 1369506984 79164 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, is it chemists < 1369506987 70057 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck chemists < 1369506992 799282 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1369506995 450820 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you will never guess < 1369507006 994244 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can guess plenty! < 1369507010 650883 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :civil engineering < 1369507013 59209 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1369507017 70014 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :stats < 1369507022 449362 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :come one, everyone hates stats < 1369507038 589360 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they invented the term bayesian! < 1369507068 364035 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wasn't bayes like an astronomer or some shit < 1369507078 869758 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :all of modern research rests on stats. i hope they don't suddenly some deep overlooked problem < 1369507089 271725 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mathematician. CLOSE ENOUGH < 1369507099 759265 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't most research hopelessly misuse statistics, generally < 1369507104 129262 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: cool. i guess if I'm implementing Scheme in QBASIC, i will just have a fixed size array for cons pairs < 1369507105 920255 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*EVERBMISSING < 1369507107 589763 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and implement my own GC < 1369507149 928877 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: only when it isn't just blatantly biased in the first place < 1369507151 699507 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: http://mchankins.wordpress.com/2013/04/21/still-not-significant-2/ it's amazing < 1369507167 938708 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Anthropology? < 1369507170 712905 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"not absolutely significant but very probably so (p>0.05)" < 1369507190 79259 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: WRONG AGAIN < 1369507199 198603 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Economics? < 1369507200 932616 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's dismal. < 1369507227 452431 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"not quite within the conventional bounds of statistical significance (p=0.12)" < 1369507232 499690 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"a strong tendency towards statistical significance (p=0.051) < 1369507232 699183 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :" < 1369507235 670730 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"not significantly significant but..clinically meaningful (p=0.072)" < 1369507242 749155 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is where you abuse rounding... < 1369507255 146457 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"on the cusp of conventional statistical significance (p=0.054)" < 1369507256 815796 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the CUSP < 1369507270 758871 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"approached but did not quite achieve significance (p>0.05) < 1369507270 958466 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :" < 1369507278 349819 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i'll gladly harbour disdain for economics on elliott's behalf < 1369507284 898718 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, come on what is it < 1369507292 588309 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it, uh < 1369507292 894484 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"remarkably close to significance (p=0.05009)" is pretty fantastic < 1369507312 294748 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: http://www2.warwick.ac.uk/fac/soc/economics/staff/phd_students/backus/girlfriend/why_i_dont_have_a_girlfriend.pdf < 1369507317 280046 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"approaches but fails to achieve a customary level of statistical significance (p=0.154)" < 1369507321 413117 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :beautiful < 1369507332 836497 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like how that one is fucking three times .05 < 1369507340 921585 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"close enough" < 1369507412 829916 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, i wish someone had linked me this paper before i went to warwick! < 1369507435 836569 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think every university has something silly like this somewhere < 1369507476 770310 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"near-marginal significance (p=0.18)" < 1369507496 849050 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :warwick, more like snorewick IMO < 1369507498 477345 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://vixra.org/abs/1303.0028 i forgot that vixra is amazing < 1369507522 779517 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also: borewick < 1369507538 5597 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :warwick more like fuckingsuckswick < 1369507557 318985 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the university is actually in coventry < 1369507566 11353 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :warwick is a good few miles away < 1369507569 929535 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coventry more like um < 1369507574 449193 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhhh < 1369507577 609525 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: any submissions < 1369507582 327898 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: btw this stats thing is actually such a problem that http://www.jnrbm.com/ exists < 1369507582 564407 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sloventry < 1369507611 693554 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :literally a journal full of results that things don't happen < 1369507676 489896 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coventry? more like Coven Tree! < 1369507678 599105 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahaha! < 1369507684 784023 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: wait i've got it. the third thing is: the people who come up with "impact factors" and whatever for journals < 1369507690 149209 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wasn't there a scooby doo movie with a coven tree < 1369507698 290047 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: ok but those are cute < 1369507727 267618 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but you hate everything, why not cute things? < 1369507736 476095 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hate cute things < 1369507744 179704 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am a cute thing < 1369507744 599322 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. pandas < 1369507747 649606 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: so warwick's home page literally has a twitter feed excerpt that starts with the fucking university of warwick's twitter account participating in that follow friday nonsense < 1369507750 792957 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hate you Taneb < 1369507752 508754 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the most prestigious < 1369507782 569460 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm slightly under six feet tall and have shabby facial hair. I am the cutest. < 1369507782 948332 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf is follow friday < 1369507788 380054 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the internet is successfully turning the entire planet stupid < 1369507790 149496 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: people like... < 1369507793 88825 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tweet other accounts you should follow < 1369507795 529236 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb did you get my message < 1369507795 779365 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :for no apparent reason < 1369507799 269627 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like everything on twitter < 1369507803 541769 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow that's silly < 1369507812 319615 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so right now warwick.ac.uk literally contains the text < 1369507813 239648 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :#ff @GUSummit2013 speakers @AnthonyMcClaran @MayorofLondon @edparsons @phsmithuk @simon_bradley @toni_pearce @vincecable @krishgm < 1369507817 677491 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm let's see what my university is doing < 1369507818 529053 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then you have to tweet your impact factor < 1369507818 809612 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@MayorofLondon < 1369507819 9012 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1369507828 588484 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"911 calls may not go thru due to a phone line problem in the region. For emergencies in Pullman call (509) 332-2521 until further notice." < 1369507830 279239 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, I assume you wrote it while tired and stuck with what your spellchecker suggested < 1369507831 735519 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty fucking boring. < 1369507836 548108 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: imo, needs more @Pontifex < 1369507838 699653 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"you know who you should follow? as YOUR FRIEND, I recommend the mayor of london -- university of warwick" < 1369507848 59304 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuckt he quotes went in the wrong place < 1369507864 324913 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy shit my uni's twitter is boring < 1369507866 194521 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: does esolangs.org work for you < 1369507869 627180 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: 0118 999 881 999 119 725...... 3 < 1369507882 274843 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1369507896 746195 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a fucking university rivalry joke in here jfc < 1369507898 269871 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yes < 1369507904 76098 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have those in the UK? < 1369507915 79636 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...yes < 1369507917 780841 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, Oxford/Cambridge is the big one < 1369507931 699440 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fortunately those two absorb most of it, afaict < 1369507939 362013 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you lucky bastards < 1369507962 609440 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it work for Taneb < 1369507983 455191 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :congratulations university you are more boring than @Pontifex's endless aphorisms < 1369507986 21942 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a nominal rivalry between warwick and coventry but only on the rare occasion anyone takes coventry seriously < 1369507988 881116 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried a few minutes ago and it asked me if I wanted to give Go Daddy money < 1369507989 889994 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We all have in our hearts some areas of unbelief. Let us say to the Lord: I believe! Help my unbelief. < 1369508002 839948 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, is that like the Oxford/Oxford Brookes? < 1369508004 339101 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: i see what you did there!! < 1369508028 470451 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, presumably < 1369508039 200281 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"We must learn from Mary, and we must imitate her unconditional readiness to receive Christ in her life." dude we don't all have him as a son come on cut me some slack < 1369508065 679535 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And didn't that almost cost her her marriage? < 1369508101 199646 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKuHYO9TM5A < 1369508163 969454 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate intrusive thoughts oh so much < 1369508172 19953 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what kinda thoughts we talkin here < 1369508179 350236 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have intrusive thoughts about what you want to do to them < 1369508181 502835 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are these "kill people" thoughts < 1369508187 579449 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo don't kill people < 1369508194 259926 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A word < 1369508212 309305 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This article deals with the phenomenon of life,and shows how can a different approach change all that we know about it.Making the simpliest and most objective assumption that the difference between earth and other planets is just that there is a huge number of chemical reactions near the surface of earth(even a stone travelling in the universe can admitt that, because life means nothing for the stone).These chemical reactions , although ... < 1369508213 549588 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Intrusive thoughts can be a word, right? < 1369508218 317618 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... partially(organism per organism) they seem to have self sustaining and self organizing properties that violate the laws of thermodynamics,when they are seen as a whole, they seem to be more random ,and not violating the laws of thermodynamics.This is very difficult for a person to realize(especially if you are living in big cities), because we see things from inside the whole system, and so it is very difficult to judje objectively ... < 1369508224 320744 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... what is life. < 1369508226 824884 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1369508227 531354 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :intrusive thoughts can definitely be a word < 1369508235 111290 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't have to be The Shining < 1369508278 790189 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the word < 1369508283 200672 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it... pizza < 1369508290 485716 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is the first volumn of the primer of algorithm. As is well known, algorithm become center of computer science now. In my lecture notes , I focus on one of the alogorithms, which is called The Recursive Algorithm. < 1369508345 312548 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the shit < 1369508349 39771 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :On a more pleasant note, jackd2 is asking me some configuration stuff < 1369508357 839912 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, it's quintopia. < 1369508367 60274 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey its cpressey < 1369508367 348039 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh gosh somebody came up with a polynomial time 3-sat solver! how exciting!!! < 1369508370 940733 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whether or not to enable realtime process priority < 1369508384 556318 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is for sure that the algorithm has polynomial runtime, even in the worst case, as the runtime is artificially limited. The question is only if the algorithm does always output the correct result. I suppose it does, due to a proof of correctness that will be shown in this document, and the evidence that an implementation of the algorithm solved millions of test formulae without any error. < 1369508386 181276 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Says it could lead to complete system lock-ups, but can minimize latency < 1369508390 496169 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: it can only solve logarithmically sized circuits :P < 1369508390 695425 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'm going to say no < 1369508406 590804 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: what is this < 1369508411 248305 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://vixra.org/abs/1212.0109 < 1369508441 729932 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a proof that P=NP on vixra. I AM STUNNED. < 1369508453 345894 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats hilarious that they artificially limit the algorithm < 1369508458 969993 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Algorithm has been well (!) tested! < 1369508460 120641 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's vixra < 1369508464 272083 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :other than arxiv backwards < 1369508466 918195 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: arxiv w/o standards < 1369508467 860325 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :as if testing an algorithm well is surprising < 1369508471 529884 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1369508479 624352 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've seen plenty of crackpot stuff on arxiv so...... < 1369508486 615827 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: mainstream scientists are just suppressing this < 1369508495 849664 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :peer review is hard and doesn't help anyway < 1369508497 701155 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: http://vixra.org/abs/1212.0136 it's a higher level of crackpot < 1369508521 637755 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hey, this other one proves P != NP < 1369508522 931048 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any NP problem can reduce to P problem, any P problem can reduce to instructions. If NP=P, it violate information entropy principle. < 1369508584 448854 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do computers already have human level intelligence? Could they understand and process the semantics of irrational numbers without knowing the exact values ? Human can. How about uncountable sets ? These are necessary to build sciences and real world modeling. Does human intelligence exceed the power of Turing Machine? This paper explains that behavior-based Turing Test cannot measure some intrinsic human intelligence, due to the ... < 1369508590 649773 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... bottleneck in expression, the bottleneck in capacity, and black box issue, etc. < 1369508612 961071 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is NSS? < 1369508613 520136 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yehhhh you know what... i feel bad for NL vs P, and NP vs EXP. they're just as interesting problems, but there they go with that millenium prize and it's all P vs NP, P vs NP. < 1369508633 257062 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I should restart after upgrade, right? < 1369508654 91555 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: i think serious researchers spend appropriate time on those problems. P/NP can just be a honeypot for morons < 1369508664 379799 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: i would be AMAZED if you could keep going without restarting < 1369508681 674466 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The glibc6 wants kdm to be restarted I think < 1369508694 707997 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least, that's what i get out of aaronson's blog, i am not a math guy < 1369508704 87644 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1369508754 49889 :SgeoN1!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1369508763 180993 :SgeoN1!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH SHIT < 1369508764 540943 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :new and improved sgeo, for the new millenium < 1369508790 228413 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :13 years late but whos counting < 1369508815 960181 :SgeoN1!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was running the dist-upgrade in a Konsole window. < 1369508835 90190 :SgeoN1!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meaning the kdm restart killed the process, I think. < 1369508852 419822 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1369508857 219674 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :… < 1369508869 320339 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :*cough* tmux < 1369508872 300280 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well now you get to find out just how robust dist-upgrade is < 1369508900 640716 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :dpkg --configure -a, apt-get -f install, another dist-upgrade should take care of it. < 1369508911 130128 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :has anyone done a "software tropes" wiki? "now you get to find out" is a software trope. < 1369508920 470374 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Some of those are probably redundant, too.) < 1369508963 450870 :SgeoN1!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Turn ion < 1369508965 970261 :SgeoN1!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ty < 1369509047 543588 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@64.31.59.246 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369509130 40120 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should run tmux or screen in every terminal SgeoN1 < 1369509143 400601 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my 'launch a terminal' keybinding launches screen < 1369509173 80424 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds annoying tbh < 1369509178 981893 :SgeoN1!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Currently using the ctrlaltf1 thing < 1369509238 311938 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think my habit (developed under FreeBSD) is to use a "ctrlaltf1 thing" for anything excessively system-y < 1369509239 221392 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1369509255 632986 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :for me, ctrl+alt+fN doesn't even work < 1369509257 450066 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea why < 1369509271 310678 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably some systemd thing I don't understand < 1369509307 237407 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"alt" has started to work strangely for me after the latest update... maybe i should totally do the natty thing too < 1369509436 358520 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: with tmux in every terminal, do you just let closed terminals keep running forever?? < 1369509448 182480 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or screen) < 1369509494 310089 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i close a terminal by exiting the shell(s) inside < 1369509496 614366 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :with ^D or 'exit' < 1369509527 632700 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yes sometimes i do have a bunch of junk terminals in the background for whatever reason < 1369509542 130832 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like if X crashes and I forget to reattach everything < 1369509556 926397 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i close them with altgr-shift-c (xmonad) a lot, because i run things in them < 1369509562 173361 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://25.media.tumblr.com/854b1a19fe680c6d0e2b9300a8654680/tumblr_mn687cUjSg1spvwooo2_500.png me < 1369509569 520725 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and :q^D or qq^D or whatever are long < 1369509683 250793 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: oh, well i never noticed how long they are, but i probably will now, thanks a lot :'( < 1369509717 884921 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: if you're sshing could be :q^D^D!!!!!!! < 1369509726 872105 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you probably use ZZ though *spit* < 1369509737 106776 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nerds. nerds < 1369509834 991430 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm with Bike < 1369509913 200726 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i find it fascinating that "nerds" carries any weight at all in this channel < 1369509975 890815 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the joke dot gif < 1369509986 921182 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the thing is that every time i call people nerds, which is of course pretty jokey since i'm saying it on fucking irc, somebody says that < 1369510022 244271 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever imma join #jocks #killallnerds.exe #NASCAR #gunz < 1369510033 570386 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you considered Bike... < 1369510036 231506 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that you are the nerd < 1369510045 491287 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :killall -NERD < 1369510046 408990 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :blowing my mind here < 1369510534 13515 :SgeoN1!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got an error < 1369510551 751173 :SgeoN1!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And don't know if my use of sudo su could be to blae < 1369510571 132283 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can do «sudo -i» instead of sudo su < 1369510608 111391 :SgeoN1!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Spawn.PermissionsInvalid: The permission of the setuid helper is not correct. < 1369510743 792225 :SgeoN1!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do? < 1369510772 191481 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :burn it down < 1369510793 656201 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :def. burn it down < 1369510822 72577 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think #gunz would be full of nerds too < 1369510823 917695 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gun nerds < 1369510851 741491 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHY YOU WANT RAIL FOR KALASHNIKOV? < 1369510852 914653 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and #jocks would be full of workout nerds? < 1369510859 175056 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh man that guy is the best < 1369510860 812646 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :beats me < 1369510875 102721 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for those who haven't seen it: http://www.m1-garand-rifle.com/ivan-chesnokov.php < 1369510915 678689 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU LOOK AT FINE RUSSIAN RIFLE, THINK IT NEED CRAZY SHIT STICK ON ALL SIDES OF WEAPON < 1369511026 992660 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369511210 367969 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, was it you who suggested a certain Dell monitor? < 1369511215 572431 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep 2412M < 1369511220 717384 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, is it matte? < 1369511224 501972 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1369511227 1857 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah good < 1369511237 724875 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah fuck glossy < 1369511246 930605 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :only 60 Hz though I assume? < 1369511252 961483 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know < 1369511267 433144 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt it would be a 120 Hz monitor < 1369511273 222648 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could look it up < 1369511286 353100 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am looking it up, but it didn't say here < 1369511401 123387 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, Huh, reading up on the IPS technology it seems it generally has worse response time than traditional TN, have you noticed any such issues on that model? < 1369511407 102053 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1369511410 370981 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't play games on it though < 1369511415 205488 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fair enough < 1369511415 405323 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :TN response times are just lies usually < 1369511419 902315 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh? < 1369511421 602106 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is some marketing shit < 1369511430 372041 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not so for IPS? < 1369511446 591931 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :where everyone claims to have a 0.000000000001ms response time because they sacrifice all kind of quality and have ghosting and stuff and don't actually give that refresh rate in practice or whatever, AIUI < 1369511449 312354 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/dell_u2412m.htm has testing of lag < 1369511459 122937 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1369511465 680934 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well as long as I can play games on it without too much issues I'm happy. < 1369511475 742402 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is a quite expensive monitor so... < 1369511484 602666 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'The input lag of the U2412M was very low with an average of only 9.4ms and a maximum of 20ms. This was a very good result and was even lower than the U2410 when using its 'game mode' to bypass a lot of the internal electronics (14.4ms). It was also ever so slightly better than the U2311H (10.6ms). A good performance and no issue for gaming from a lag point of view.' < 1369511499 808870 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right < 1369511520 992311 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I haven't noticed any ghosting on my current cheap Asus monitor < 1369511526 32052 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty sure it is TN < 1369511617 428607 :SgeoN1!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders if VirtualBox supports IOMMU shenanigans < 1369511627 82873 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIRC it does with linux as a host < 1369511649 682315 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'I THINK LIVE GRENADE FOR CIVILIAN IN AMERICA IS PROBABLY ENOUGH REASON FOR GULAG, SO IS PROBABLY NO REAL USE FOR GRENADE SPIGOT TO YOU.' < 1369511656 241923 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :SgeoN1, With some caveats wrt using the GART not working < 1369511663 831781 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :possible jerkcity ref.? who knows < 1369511676 572070 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1369511678 992982 :SgeoN1!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :GART? < 1369511689 435078 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :SgeoN1, a thingy used by graphics cards mostly < 1369511701 243159 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't ask me about the details, because I have no clue < 1369511712 465295 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphics_address_remapping_table < 1369511716 141697 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :spigot complaining about belgian pistols would be p. great < 1369511723 17876 :SgeoN1!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. Well, I wanted it for graphics... < 1369511771 851674 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://25.media.tumblr.com/33fb29f6b93975f06f99d0146e548283/tumblr_mn4211nqy41snfhwio1_1280.png have you < 1369512254 552708 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, oh great, it as proper physical buttons. I have a Dell monitor at work with touchbuttons on the side (don't remember which model), pretty good monitor, but those buttons activate way too easily < 1369512263 265497 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you just get your hand even close to it < 1369512438 412243 :SgeoN1!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Parallels gave up on caring about non-Macs < 1369512456 302696 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Parallels the company also makes Linux and Windows server virtualization products < 1369512474 243257 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :eg the commercial version of OpenVZ < 1369512474 443247 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1369512512 892096 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :aiui, these were developed by a different company that bought the Mac desktop virtualization company < 1369512672 124993 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1369513057 513507 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn JOIN :#esoteric < 1369513120 543008 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: I was Really Weird? When? < 1369513168 863442 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :GATLING GUN OF AMERICAN CIVIL WAR IS NOT OF SELFLOADING SISTEMA. IS TYPICAL CAPITALIST APPROACH OF MORE IS BETTER. INSTEAD OF A SINGLE STRONG BARREL OF PROUD WORKMANSHIP, IS MANY EXPENSIVE BARREL ON WHEEL LIKE REVOLVER. ONE CONSCRIPT HE SPIN CRANK; OTHER CONSCRIPT HE SWEEP ENEMIES DOWN LIKE FIST OF DRUNKEN GOD. < 1369513202 843877 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, where is that from < 1369513209 293591 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.m1-garand-rifle.com/ivan-chesnokov.php < 1369513235 981046 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: what do you think he thinks of tachankas < 1369513243 803243 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: It was probably at http://www.tested.com/tech/pcs/453848-buying-your-new-monitor-part-one-what-get/ where I saw that U2412M recommendation. < 1369513251 834043 :SgeoN1!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why does < 1369513260 673382 :SgeoN1!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does is tree a package called yelp < 1369513269 663437 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1369513284 175300 :SgeoN1!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is there a package called yelp on my system < 1369513291 777978 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not < 1369513307 584554 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :apt-cache show yelp < 1369513309 784928 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Gnome help browser is called Yelp. < 1369513331 141809 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's cool how maxim guns were used up through the korean war < 1369513347 779246 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess that's like how syrians are still using stgs < 1369513350 173438 :SgeoN1!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe that website shouldn't have stolen the name of the GNOME help viewer < 1369513361 104856 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure that's exactly what they did < 1369513369 963691 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm I wonder if my current monitor is IPS... It has extremely good viewing angles. But it is a pretty cheap Asus < 1369513376 893481 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh look Metal Storm went bankrupt < 1369513378 49607 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION looks for a model number < 1369513390 527305 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the million rounds per minute folks? < 1369513399 380265 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1369513438 531178 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess the papau new guinean armed forces just aren't enough < 1369513454 403620 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :VW225 < 1369513460 853279 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't say IPS on Asus page < 1369513468 450229 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I would assume it is TN < 1369513565 883659 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :VW225N even < 1369513587 664484 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1369513797 724202 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Generally (at least my feeling is) TN "viewing angles" in the sense that there's an image and it's not obviously wrong color are quite reasonable too; it's just that the colors noticeably change depending on the (vertical) angle. < 1369513834 54797 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also that bird hasn't been in for hours. I wonder if it went somewhere. < 1369513841 73770 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, Well it doesn't change at all unless I go to maybe 70 degrees off the normal or so on my monitor < 1369513844 764907 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :what bird < 1369513884 888069 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: http://codu.org/logs/log/_esoteric/2013-05-25#064017fizzie that bird. < 1369513896 916115 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1369513903 695557 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(There's an image link some lines down.) < 1369513929 913891 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm what sort of bird is that < 1369513939 795453 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm no good at that sort of thing < 1369513947 704205 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a species hypothesis few lines further down. < 1369514036 773595 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah interesting < 1369514054 442856 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can compare e.g. to http://www.elisanet.fi/~y612053/Harrastukset/Linnut/Mustarastas-P-03.JPG < 1369514065 876702 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone know how to use ICC profiles under Linux? < 1369514090 54447 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, wrong beak colour < 1369514101 465549 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your bird has a yellow beak < 1369514171 734810 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :So do some of the other blackbird photos. < 1369514198 854193 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'm certainly not sure at all, I don't know about birds. < 1369514452 304463 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :As for color management, I think it's quite a lot up to the application to be ICC-aware, and many do it via LittleCMS aka LCMS. < 1369514485 114945 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah... < 1369514494 724009 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing on the GPU level then < 1369514525 54897 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's standalone loaders for setting the graphics card look-up table thingamajicks that (some?) monitor profiles use. < 1369514545 934162 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1369514555 394727 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And a root window property for associating monitor profiles with screens, which I think the loaders also set? < 1369514559 673102 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something like that, anyway. < 1369514566 893899 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Know the software name? < 1369514631 796119 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think dispwin is one of the tools. It's from the Argyll CMS. < 1369514639 213840 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1369514688 555245 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also something standalone called xcalib. But I don't have in-depth knowledge of these things, I don't have a fancy enough monitor and/or know anyone with a color calibro-a-meter. < 1369514763 455162 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :For Gimp you can just configure the monitor profile in its own dialogs, at least. < 1369514780 574689 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There seems to be a checkbox for "try to use the system monitor profile", which doesn't sound all that optimistic. < 1369514787 204198 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, so _why is completely insane < 1369514793 52499 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :though, i do not mean that in a bad way. < 1369515090 714103 :SgeoN1!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Toddammit errpts < 1369515157 833108 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1369515186 806243 :SgeoN1!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/icedtea-netx_1.2-2ubuntu0.11.04.3_i386.deb < 1369515496 943041 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Re TN and viewing angles, http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/viewing_angle.php is a good test of it; the text in the image shouldn't have different colors depending on the position on the screen (i.e., the viewing angle to that region); it most certainly does for my el-cheapo TN panel. (Hey, it's quite old; IPS panels were really pricey back then.) < 1369515575 504740 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Though I really should've probably shopped around; the controls on this thing are atrocious, and I think there's some "sharpening" setting that can't be disabled or even configured.) < 1369515598 674471 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Just can't justify doing anything about it until it breaks.) < 1369515975 236705 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf_txtgen Gob's program? y/n < 1369515979 675782 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​213 ++++++++++++++[>+++++>++++++++>+++++++>+++<<<<-]>+.>-.>.>---.<+++++++++++++++++.>-------.<<+.++.>----.--------.<.>------.<-----.<--------.>>>.<<++++++++++++.<----------------.>-----------.>>----------------------. [647] < 1369516032 455560 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, there is a very slight difference, not much. < 1369516041 605489 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369516055 625006 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: hello! < 1369516061 702851 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is bf_txtgen optimal? < 1369516062 996478 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi cpressey! < 1369516065 635490 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: no < 1369516068 197520 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's probabilistic < 1369516068 895351 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: read this http://catseye.tc/wsj.html < 1369516075 255042 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes returns a different value with the same input < 1369516082 365395 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pfft, as if ais523 clicks links < 1369516085 105050 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :really, how intereting < 1369516086 746243 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf_txtgen NO < 1369516087 995249 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, in general, an optimal bf_txtgen requires solving a busy beaver-like problem < 1369516088 875529 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​38 ++++++++++[>++++++++>+>><<<<-]>--.+.>. [83] < 1369516094 899403 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yeah that's why i was wondering < 1369516095 905971 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :>><< so optimal < 1369516097 395016 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: if they go to catseye, I'm more likely to < 1369516110 650269 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: http://catseye.tc/warez/Windows_8.iso < 1369516152 634148 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: you are a beautiful person < 1369516173 480279 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a very strict fixed format; +{n}, followed by that single loop (that always has four "terms" for !bf_txtgen, though the underlying code lets you configure that with a command line argument), followed by a sequence of +-<>. without loops. < 1369516185 295471 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :weak < 1369516191 15561 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: "more likely" does not necessarily mean "100%" < 1369516197 655594 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially because that's likely either a 404, or some sort of ingenious joke < 1369516233 116057 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't like ingenious jokes??? < 1369516235 558670 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the parameters (initial number, values of the terms, output printing sequence) are done with a GP thing. One of those outputs is the generation number, I think. < 1369516269 565200 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :correlation of giving ais523 links and ais523 clicking on them is quasi-significant (p=0.09) < 1369516272 921377 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i demand an uncomputable algorithm < 1369516295 295896 :SgeoN1!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that dpkg configure thing supposed to be idempotent? < 1369516323 786175 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: you should write a better thing. < 1369516344 294033 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone spoke on channel about writing a better thing, though I don't know if that happened. < 1369516349 276030 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would be nice if bf_txtgen tried to remove un-needed > and < though < 1369516367 76066 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: hmm < 1369516372 846772 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've given more serious esolang emails, over email < 1369516396 135281 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :guaranteed that any ais523 interview would be edited for length and boredom < 1369516404 856426 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: elliott: http://danieltemkin.com/blog/post/Interview-with-ais523.aspx < 1369516409 135843 :SgeoN1!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :About to reboot into Natty < 1369516412 26094 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf_txtgen Gob's Program: Y/N? < 1369516413 625772 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: haha < 1369516415 905838 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​242 ++++++++++++++[>+++++>++++++++>+++++++>+++<<<<-]>+.>-.>.>---.<+++++++++++++++++.>-------.<<<+++++++++.>>-.<.--------.>.<------.>-----.<<----------------------.>>>..<<--------.<-----------.>-----------.---------------.>>----------------------. [643] < 1369516418 977753 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: uh yeah that's why the letter says to interview zzo! < 1369516420 15694 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :some people from channel 4 tried to interview me once < 1369516421 756496 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it didn't go well < 1369516467 517326 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: You've given emails, over email? < 1369516472 965498 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :daniel temkin... i think i tried to give him an interview years ago but never actually succeeded < 1369516474 956154 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :interviews, over email < 1369516484 515885 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: yeah, he was interviewing some of the best-known esolang names < 1369516488 805153 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I'm not surprised he tried to interview you < 1369516505 478622 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Here is the edited interview with Alex. Q: What are esolangs? A: Esolangs [...] epistemological [...] Thursday [...] fucking Stephen Wolfram [...] wholly derived from [...] bitchin' [...] except for this last case (and the one after it))))))))))) [...] but not axiomatically." < 1369516529 247834 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nailed it < 1369516529 610151 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, I need some advice < 1369516538 65835 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's still blogging so if i can compose myself maybe i'll hit him up sometime, see if he's at all still interested < 1369516539 423600 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :except, hmm < 1369516540 253168 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't eat yellow snow. < 1369516544 736180 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That's good advice.) < 1369516549 436214 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.136.228 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bitchin' < 1369516549 635898 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: you don't even know how deep ais523's parentheses go < 1369516550 435830 :SgeoN1!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why did I end up booting into GNOME, urgh < 1369516551 365904 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :definitely don't eat brown snow < 1369516557 23815 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: lisp joke < 1369516571 666010 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, I'm trying to help another computer go < 1369516572 925493 :SgeoN1!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :GNOME with no panels. Shoot me. < 1369516592 189135 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs ))))) < 1369516596 575971 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, what happened is that the Windows partitions on it (two of them, somehow) have been so overrun with something or other that they can no longer be resized < 1369516601 516674 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i forget the command < 1369516604 476156 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :grep: unmatched parentheses \ http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.21715 < 1369516615 268685 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to make the computer usable, we resized the recovery partition, and put Linux (specifically, Ubuntu precise) on the unused portion of that < 1369516617 647302 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION beats head into table < 1369516629 367846 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs '\\)\\)\\)\\)\\)' < 1369516635 816218 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :grep: unmatched parentheses \ http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.4933 < 1369516644 246017 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, the point is it has a very low maximum disk space < 1369516644 444977 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck. everything < 1369516652 745766 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact, the package system currently seems to be broken < 1369516659 255511 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I'm not convinced there's enough free space to repair it < 1369516661 405651 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs \)\)\)\)\) < 1369516674 35730 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.19598 < 1369516703 207669 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also there seems to be some sort of signature error on the kernel < 1369516705 806547 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow look at all dem lisp jokes < 1369516727 7679 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gosh, log from ten years ago < 1369516751 311860 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :um the world is only 8 years old < 1369516782 216032 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought it was 44 < 1369516797 445729 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and software center keeps segfaulting < 1369516827 889108 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why the everloving fuck is there this much ski < 1369516840 605434 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: What happened to esolangs.org? < 1369516851 175819 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welcome to: esolangs.org < 1369516851 687440 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Visit GoDaddy.com. < 1369516887 936748 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1369516888 215807 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.136.228 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1369516890 79132 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, this is elliott using cl! < 1369516901 886128 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.136.228 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This Web page is parked FREE, courtesy of GoDaddy.com < 1369516908 576885 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FREE < 1369516914 115787 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks GoDaddy.com < 1369516947 37598 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION deletes the entire content of /var/cache, then mounts a tmpfs over /var/cache < 1369516970 817586 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369517004 727069 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1369517015 397149 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finally booted into KDE < 1369517056 346504 :joe_____!4ce2aae4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.226.170.228 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369517085 89065 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome joe_____ < 1369517087 497684 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :joe_____: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1369517120 425931 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a lot of underscores < 1369517126 677507 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.136.228 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2003 logs are very sad < 1369517136 225738 :joe_____!4ce2aae4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.226.170.228 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1369517136 425493 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why < 1369517153 604886 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.136.228 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/logs/log/_esoteric/2003-09-24 < 1369517154 706623 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any particular reason not to trust do-release-upgrade? < 1369517156 455933 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.136.228 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"what a log" < 1369517167 706083 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.136.228 PRIVMSG #esoteric :some of them are rather poetic < 1369517169 766510 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: I think my main feedback is that 99.97% seems too high < 1369517170 456644 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, occurs to me that my sources.list still needs to and should be pointing to old-releases < 1369517189 956561 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.136.228 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/logs/log/_esoteric/2003-08-31 lament's twitter < 1369517192 56209 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not many people esolang at all, so a single female would throw the statistics way off, and I vaguely remember there's at least one < 1369517193 981333 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like this wallpaper < 1369517233 732226 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, fax/MissPiggy/Iforgetwhatothernamesshesused? < 1369517235 777025 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are at least like 4-5 women who have made esolangs or been in #esoteric for a while < 1369517247 69512 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl_: wow that's... yeah. < 1369517254 948012 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's still pretty depressingly imbalanced < 1369517276 369364 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I was thinking of someone else, but can't remember who < 1369517283 406367 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we need an esolang outreach system < 1369517310 757339 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :get the most charismatic to go around to schools teaching lens < 1369517324 763415 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lens is an esolang now? < 1369517330 606450 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1369517359 637370 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.136.228 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i still need to "get into" lens < 1369517362 764532 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's either that or brainfuck derivatives sgeo. the choice is obvious < 1369517386 458658 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtpVhEgj7tU -- now that's what i call a Real Fast Download < 1369517391 816531 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the thing that made me actually notice lenses is mapped < 1369517410 636945 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why mapped... < 1369517418 706637 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: holy shit < 1369517422 615424 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.136.228 PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo the quintessential esolang is befunge, not brainfuck < 1369517426 287896 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.136.228 PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuck is just so boring < 1369517427 879138 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :taneb has to watch that < 1369517438 441139 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm. hasn't taneb seen it? < 1369517452 136260 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't < 1369517453 697225 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heard of it < 1369517454 807554 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: no he named it after a spam page advertising an (iirc phony) download for it < 1369517458 187117 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vaguely < 1369517458 395531 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl_: see. Befunge Fun Hour. we can do it < 1369517465 7365 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: on the wiki < 1369517470 846513 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: good etymology < 1369517503 626439 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow that's a p. bad movie < 1369517504 283148 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1369517505 963386 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Delicious (T. Ashanti Mozelle) is in charge of maintaining Nora s legacy and tradition by running & managing the shop. The dysfunctional group of hairstylists consisting of Janelle, Nina, Xenobia, Tashina, and manicurists Ming and Ling are still up to their old antics! One day, reality show producer Charles (Miguel Nuñez) enters the shop. Captivated by the goings-on inside, he proposes that Nora s Hair Salon have its own show. ... < 1369517511 979348 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... Immediately, the salon crew signs on with hopes of money and fame, but they get more than they bargained for when they learn that Charles has ulterior motives. Now, the crew must come together to see that this reality tape never sees the light of day. Written by Anonymous < 1369517525 2501 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks anonymous < 1369517528 276875 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf_txtgen Penus < 1369517530 267897 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​75 ++++++++++[>++++++++>++++++++++>+++>+<<<<-]>.>+.+++++++++.+++++++.--.>++.>. [702] < 1369517536 331138 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the hell is Xenobia < 1369517537 417917 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :every decade or so there's a female but they never stay very long. maybe 99.97% is a bit high. < 1369517538 455927 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: using !bf_txtgen is cheating btw < 1369517544 572949 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is Ming and Ling some racist thing i don't even know < 1369517551 741031 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369517555 706414 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Xenobia, short for Xenophobia < 1369517564 744419 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the fuck, this is a sequel? < 1369517570 896192 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's 3 < 1369517573 313963 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought the 3 was just marketing < 1369517576 296882 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1369517576 966376 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1369517584 211746 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jennifer Lewis plays Nora, a young woman who runs a hair salon full of sassy, eclectic stylists. < 1369517585 536738 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.136.228 PRIVMSG #esoteric :noras hair salon 3000 < 1369517602 405934 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rated R for some language and sexual references < 1369517620 512440 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1369517625 366826 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is real fast nora isn't it < 1369517626 414560 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0883410/ what a mysterious film < 1369517630 296201 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is < 1369517631 766499 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that real < 1369517634 400969 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1369517636 47864 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.113 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1369517663 963293 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :our local warez specialist (or "zpecialist") found a rip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtpVhEgj7tU < 1369517673 384967 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :too bad this couldn't be advertised directly on a certain wiki! < 1369517674 656685 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :unlike the other two films in the trilogy, Nora's Hair Salon II is a horror art film < 1369517681 867385 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and shares no characters with the others < 1369517700 83515 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :except Xenobia, dark priestess of the east < 1369517704 326560 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was not well received by fans of the original and the third instalment is generally considered a far superior sequel < 1369517747 159852 :joe_____!4ce2aae4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.226.170.228 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1369517751 670804 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION deletes kernel modules for all versions of the kernel under than the one we're currently using < 1369517757 667029 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: see this is how you do it (example from #haskell): < 1369517759 86847 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :22:34:24 cabal is easy. < 1369517759 286102 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :22:35:04 not as easy as monoids. < 1369517788 279972 :joe_____!4ce2aae4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.226.170.228 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369517789 696583 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott's point is that monoids are easy < 1369517795 126952 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(They are.) < 1369517827 413376 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.136.228 PRIVMSG #esoteric :am i the only one who thinks "a female" sounds overly technical... < 1369517847 394998 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1369517852 887419 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, you can resize tmpfses, neat < 1369517857 747119 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl_: no < 1369517912 336626 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't get this < 1369517917 896975 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have 463M available on / < 1369517926 681114 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and 800M available on /var/cache < 1369517931 577047 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yet I'm still getting disk full errors < 1369517959 470833 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :when only 100M is meant to be needed < 1369517975 666859 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl_: yeah people should generally be called "men" or "women" (or "people"), "female" is more of an adjective < 1369518011 529304 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :calling women "females" is common among chauvinists, "pick up artists" / "mens rights activists" and the like < 1369518019 36974 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course not everyone who uses the word that way is one of those < 1369518025 996711 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and worst of all, cpressey!!!! < 1369518031 166815 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :O: < 1369518038 487580 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :jk cpressey ilu bff's < 1369518084 37009 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: esolangs.org works for me now, maybe it will for you too < 1369518084 867256 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I don't need to do old-releases for oneiric < 1369518099 387309 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i got a reply from THE ALAN DIPERT saying he'll sort it out so hopefully all will be well soon! < 1369518102 630016 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: "nope sry" < 1369518152 687391 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"men" and "women" has age connotations < 1369518158 361682 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's hard to estimate gender ratios in online technical communities, because people are assumed to be male by default, and if you correct them it's all WHY ARE YOU FORCING YOUR RADICAL FEMINIST AGENDA ON US and then the rape and death threats < 1369518160 63472 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"people" is "p. good tho" < 1369518165 436579 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think we would do that < 1369518177 714190 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's a reason why some women prefer not to be "out" as women online < 1369518197 128201 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should find a biologist chatroom and see what it's like < 1369518201 733127 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :since the community is mostly female < 1369518224 267612 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the ratio? < 1369518245 62824 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not much over 50/50, lemme check < 1369518268 816472 :joe_____!4ce2aae4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.226.170.228 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1369518289 319921 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's cool how if you google "nsf gender ratios" you get a bunch of stuff on sexual development in nonhumans) < 1369518319 131259 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1369518338 837529 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i demand to know whether male nonhuman primates or female nonhuman primates are better at programming computers < 1369518370 477473 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :which gender of compiler generates better code < 1369518372 207637 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :\rainbow{evolutionary psychology} < 1369518381 917032 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: is 'compiler' a male or female noun in hebrew < 1369518387 602117 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.nsf.gov/statistics/infbrief/nsf12311/ gives 1.8/1.2 in favor of women, versus e.g. 16.6/9.3 for men in CS and math < 1369518406 227706 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :male < 1369518449 892717 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :social sciences are also female-dominated, while physics is still male-dominated < 1369518467 350411 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :engineers is given as 16.4/4.2 which is pretty crazy < 1369518494 56933 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about political economy < 1369518542 669971 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if that counts as "science and engineering" so much as "twainbait" < 1369518566 215950 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait wait wait Real Fast Nora is a FILM? I was so SURE it was a casual game of the resource management genre < 1369518577 77853 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean it sounds like one, doesn't it? doesn't it? < 1369518578 802841 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i actually thought the same thing < 1369518582 265980 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is weird < 1369518625 727676 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the gender ratio in open source and online software communities is also a lot more skewed than the gender ratio among professional programmers < 1369518666 63528 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl_: i'm trying not to be speciestist. < 1369518679 742320 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*speciesist < 1369518688 227518 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that that's a word < 1369518694 697023 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I try not to be too speciesist but it's hard. < 1369518709 997578 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :remember everyone, open source is a pure meritocracy that in no way drives away particular kinds of people < 1369518712 148148 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I'm pretty speciesist. < 1369518761 188558 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I've noticed the gender ratio in computer science get closer to even over time, even just in the four years I was teaching there < 1369518777 529032 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this reminds me that i'm not good enough at websurfing to figure out how to get the US BLS to tell me how most people in the US are employed < 1369518782 402303 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because i really don't know... < 1369518791 728043 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i already lost the link to the qbasic online docs :( < 1369518809 417599 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is, among students < 1369518817 737719 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh http://xn--nxa.zem.fi/~fis/qbc.html < 1369518843 597757 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "c" is for colors. < 1369518857 727077 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow this is long < 1369519078 214637 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-243-199.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1369519105 897939 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1369519108 408117 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-243-199.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1369519284 219450 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1369519376 58718 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you should implement deadfish in qbasic, although i guess it probably already has been < 1369519453 697596 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should implement Haskell in qbasic < 1369519491 68380 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-243-199.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :implement qbasic in deadfish < 1369519500 248361 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's deadfish < 1369519527 867683 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-243-199.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that thing that squares numbers and sucks < 1369519564 127564 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :By the way, what happened to the esolangs wiki ): < 1369519686 489001 :Bike_!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1369519745 917633 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :esolangs.org totally works for me. i suspect i'm on a different internet from everyone else < 1369519805 708994 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike_: the internet doesn't seem to know what "twainbait" means & neither do I < 1369519825 890523 :Bike_!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yo shachaf help him out < 1369519829 905282 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-243-199.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1369519831 219339 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mark Twain - "When you fish for love, bait with your heart, not your brain." < 1369519831 569761 :Bike_!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1369519876 870784 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone should perhaps solve the DNS cache coherency problem, it's nonsensical when things work for some people but not for others. < 1369519909 930202 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: anyway shachaf was referring to a short story he linked yesterday, titled Political Economy, by Twain < 1369519938 890281 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: you realise you said twainbait not shachaf right < 1369519953 929112 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, there's a Nintendo 3DS version of VVVVVV around? The strangest. < 1369519984 678649 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yeah but i'm approximately utterly unconcerned with making sense wrt shachaffing < 1369519997 478322 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is xset trying to open display "" < 1369520007 38352 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because that's the best display < 1369520016 969645 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does this upgrade need to be running with communication to an X server for some odd reason? < 1369520021 469122 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: thanks. my brain is still recovering from _why's thing, so i'll read it tomorrow < 1369520025 158396 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose next you'll be wonering about MIT MAGIC COOKIEs < 1369520033 293884 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It did ask me which ... thing (gdm kdm etc.) I wanted as default < 1369520061 38245 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeo i think making sense of desktop environments is hopeless and don't < 1369520091 878211 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just don't know if that's related to it trying to do X stuff < 1369520106 957161 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I make sense in other channels! < 1369520118 907808 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :doubt it < 1369520132 808342 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why don't you /join #haskell and see for yourself? < 1369520143 791560 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like a sucky place < 1369520146 838127 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo < 1369520154 118324 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the worst thing in the world. < 1369520177 598382 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hear elliott ops there but still hasn't /cs clear users'd < 1369520265 168259 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa i didn't know about /msg chanserv clear users < 1369520274 748467 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why must you put this temptation in my path < 1369520283 188370 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm a kingmaker. < 1369520293 648104 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :where 'king' is a euphemism for space madness < 1369520356 978360 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are Mafia-variant games with kingmakers < 1369520537 288290 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a country iin southeast asia called Vietnam < 1369520577 748981 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: has boily asked you the question yet by the way < 1369520581 211082 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why doesn't someone do that here < 1369520610 438452 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, I'm considering going for a H-IPS monitor instead, I identified the one at work as a U2410, and I really like it. Seems that is an old model though. Ever used a U2413, which seems to be the current replacement for that < 1369520663 638560 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is a bit expensive though < 1369520685 740212 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :But 6-bit + FRC sounds annoying. < 1369520844 258420 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: no, boily has not asked me any questions in fact, and i doubt i would be able to discern The Question from a randomly selected question < 1369520852 558269 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: I am sure you would < 1369520863 640144 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, maybe i would < 1369520879 867069 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which question is this now < 1369520892 578958 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: you know, the one boily asks < 1369520904 49523 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1369520910 409156 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the question < 1369520922 438368 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hang on < 1369520926 798952 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :have i been asked this question < 1369520931 19545 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's anything like Phantom_Hoover's secret... < 1369520953 448671 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover will take his secret to the grave < 1369520955 888594 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do i know this question and not shachaf and mnoqy what is happening < 1369520963 319027 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw I would say it's not specifically his secret < 1369520970 969294 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :secret pertaining to phantom hoover < 1369520972 329599 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: what's going on < 1369520994 718813 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :god is here < 1369521008 449447 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: that's a good point about assuming-male-by-default; I'm now wondering how many esolang designers have gone by an alias and I've never confirmed the gender of < 1369521011 809124 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :am i god < 1369521026 818871 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1369521041 789506 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well. partly. < 1369521234 968973 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: no I haven't used the U2413 or U2410 < 1369521247 319 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :any particular reason for going with H-IPS? < 1369521255 69092 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and can you get a 24" H-IPS for $300? < 1369521259 499585 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :␓ ␐ < 1369521259 718836 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :well no < 1369521266 89966 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw I hear there are these amazing cheap monitors from Korea < 1369521269 655575 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :on ebay or whatever < 1369521274 375672 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are whole web forums devoted to them < 1369521277 319348 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, but since I'm considering dual monitor in that case... < 1369521318 609251 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, I read a bit about that, one guy complained about electronic whining. That scares me. I can't stand that, plus I have above average hearing so... < 1369521323 568816 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope, not taking that risk. < 1369521339 578802 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : if it's anything like Phantom_Hoover's secret... < 1369521342 309672 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1369521342 509003 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, It is either dual U2412M or single U2413 < 1369521346 972240 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which secret is this < 1369521358 369395 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if god is here, i have a question for him/her/it, namely, when you made the moon why did you put a rabbit in it that you can only see when it's full and when you tilt your head to the right? < 1369521369 909530 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, don't tell me < 1369521396 719396 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i prefer the mystery for that one. < 1369521416 950268 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well just think....if you were god.....wouldnt you have done it too < 1369521418 139702 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, since the U2412M has a 6-bit panel + FRC I'm a bit worried < 1369521422 879023 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, is that noticable? < 1369521432 29889 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: i am god and i did < 1369521434 379181 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i wouldn't hate IO in prolog, i'd provide an implementation of deadfish in it < 1369521445 19533 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :alt. who cares about the moon, there are billions of other moons < 1369521468 589262 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: it's the one about your tumblr, for the record < 1369521475 742463 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that secret < 1369521483 230202 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought it was one of the secret secrets < 1369521485 999700 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :little known fact: cpressey's moonjob there is actually true of all moons < 1369521489 746495 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait what secret secrets < 1369521492 948454 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :spill plz < 1369521504 248125 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought the tumblr secret wasnt secret at all < 1369521510 248892 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: do you prefer the mystery for the god question or the ph question < 1369521515 599605 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no that's the decoy secret < 1369521516 759449 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the tumblr secret that it's actually written by taneb < 1369521520 369228 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's another secret < 1369521523 819089 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike..... you spoiled it < 1369521530 40658 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :though it's not a secret secret < 1369521530 249258 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :spill the beans Phantom_Hoover < 1369521535 448960 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: dont worry thats the one thats not secret at all < 1369521536 210496 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"beans" means "secrets" < 1369521558 794099 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't, i don't remember them < 1369521564 879378 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :too secret < 1369521596 469918 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: also re: god, moon, rabbits: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/88/White-Rabbit-making-elixir-of-immortality.jpg < 1369521604 999496 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The mythological white hare making the elixir of immortality on the Moon, from Chinese mythology. Embroidered onto 18th-century Imperial Chinese robes." < 1369521608 579181 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a shout out 2 mnoqy < 1369521665 139216 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yeah, sadly, that is where i learnt of it, and i was like, i know there's a man in the moon, but a rabbit, nuh-uh, and then i tilted my head to the right and i was like DAMN < 1369521679 990746 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo gunnerkrigg should be wear you learned about it < 1369521691 639722 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: man i worked to find that image < 1369521695 129684 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :all for nothing < 1369521696 648097 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d4/Man_in_the_Moon_with_key.jpg conclusive evidence < 1369521701 535297 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :such a good image though < 1369521709 619453 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: er well not that image precisely -- i meant wikipedia < 1369521741 423617 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/90/Man_In_The_Moon2.png more evidence (also conclusive) < 1369521767 170087 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i still love how terrible that last one is < 1369521795 960335 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://bitcoinstarter.com/ < 1369521803 780303 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :concln. moon god is a terrible artist < 1369521812 196516 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike is that crowdfunding with bitcoins < 1369521829 82774 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :project categories: NSFW < 1369521849 977711 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Starting an Adult/Porn 3D Virtual Reality company < 1369521851 541878 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bitcoinnonstarter < 1369521869 290560 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bitcoin Mining for Local School Programs < 1369521885 529476 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it was a mare in the moon < 1369521892 49721 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :guys < 1369521893 660542 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ponies < 1369521897 569427 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1369521935 609841 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im with elliott here < 1369521987 559224 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... so it's actually written by Taneb? I'd believe that, it would explain why Taneb cared if I had read it or not. < 1369522037 777982 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: IMO the part where he said "@tell Taneb I want to RIP OUT MY OWN PANCREAS for writing 'exersize' on my tumblr" and then quit was a bit of a giveaway < 1369522063 230271 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, Phantom_Hoover updated his tumblr? < 1369522133 269948 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: i don't know what 6-bit panel + FRC means, so I think it's not noticable < 1369522133 469531 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.136.228 PRIVMSG #esoteric :guys http://i.imgur.com/42sR2OD.png < 1369522141 270000 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno elliott, i'd rip out my pancreas for that 2 < 1369522147 529483 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't use it for anything super demanding < 1369522150 393481 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl_: cute < 1369522152 970043 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl_: awesome < 1369522156 209723 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i read websites and code and irc < 1369522164 119608 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like dumbass minesweeper < 1369522167 300115 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.136.228 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's gonna get good < 1369522189 730276 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha that owns < 1369522194 18032 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.136.228 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i'll make something like rubicon for befunge < 1369522224 729791 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rob Ford Crackstarter is up to $172,756 of $200,000 with 56 hours left < 1369522277 943279 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric : Vorpal: i don't know what 6-bit panel + FRC means, so I think it's not noticable <-- that each colour only has 64 brightness levels, and it uses "temporal dithering" to emulate a full 256 levels < 1369522291 329437 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it quickly switches back and forth < 1369522294 452421 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the speed on that temporal dithering < 1369522307 431520 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, that is why I'm asking if you noticed anything < 1369522311 49879 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i didn't < 1369522318 460512 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did search a bit but couldn't find any speed info < 1369522327 450709 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :look this is a high end Dell business monitor and it gets good reviews everywhere < 1369522329 441027 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl_: what have you done and where can I purchase that < 1369522341 702774 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think it's going to have some glaring flaw; I certainly haven't noticed one < 1369522373 931277 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, right, but it is an expensive piece of equipment, so I'm reading multiple reviews and asking people who I know who used it before buying it < 1369522382 529886 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The quoted contrast numbers for monitors are something really absurd these days. Like this one, it says 80000000:1. < 1369522392 433110 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm always this careful when buying expensive electronics < 1369522422 841272 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1369522455 707145 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl_: the last time i saw something like that it was http://wimrijnders.nl/other/befunge.html but it didn't have the iconery < 1369522456 550587 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need confirmation of a random fact I saw on Tumblr about the Finnish language < 1369522456 749756 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :MEANWHILE IN /R/BITCOIN: http://en.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1f0xmo/liberty_reserve_shut_down_for_money_laundering/ca5qix5 < 1369522472 980106 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I need the url to Phantom_Hoover's tumblr < 1369522474 810309 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the equivalent idiom in Finnish to "fits like a glove"? < 1369522482 672072 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_, taneb.tumblr.com < 1369522486 912674 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1369522499 650168 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no there was "phantom" and "hooover" in it I'm sure < 1369522521 129924 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait < 1369522526 661060 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's my Tumblr < 1369522530 267469 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try sgeo.tumblr.com < 1369522552 640789 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're scaring me < 1369522621 180261 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm < 1369522660 831211 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ack, do you all have tumblrs now? < 1369522679 255475 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeo.tumblr.com is genuinely mine. < 1369522737 440179 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: what was the point of that link < 1369522757 170124 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :making fun of people < 1369522757 589903 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Fits like a (fist in the (eye|face)|nose in the face). < 1369522766 323949 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: thanks now I know hot to break out of a ziptie < 1369522768 969898 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh sweet is that real < 1369522769 463064 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was the latest update in the "MEANWHILE IN /R/BITCOIN" series < 1369522771 711247 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, wow, Tumblr was right < 1369522773 60312 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo beautiful language < 1369522798 450206 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: i take this to mean you are mocking the content of this channel < 1369522813 700286 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey, this channel is on topic about once a fortnight now < 1369522814 580798 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1369522815 210429 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1369522826 660218 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm mocking the content of /r/bitcoin < 1369522849 920932 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Though I'm not sure the connotations are quite "fits like a glove", it's more like "this thing is well suited to the place it's in or the use it is put to", or some-such. But it's an idiom, anyway. < 1369522851 360553 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, that works < 1369522872 370545 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, same with "fits like a glove" < 1369522895 803755 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fits like a glove in your nose < 1369522929 980427 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, not really, fits like a glove is mostly referring to actual physical fitting < 1369522973 900470 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, really? I rarely hear it used non-ironically for that < 1369522978 530670 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you think? i wouldn't say so, phantom < 1369522990 540111 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :'he fits that job like a glove' or w/e < 1369523013 732674 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1369523015 182671 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.136.228 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1369523027 690247 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fits like a glaive. < 1369523038 811613 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.136.228 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369523039 810083 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll go with PH here, every use of 'fits like a glove' that i can think of outside apparel sounds weird to me right now < 1369523080 139778 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the director's use of bach as background music for this scene fits like a glove < 1369523097 409670 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im sure lots of things fit like gloves < 1369523103 748522 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :toe socks, for instance < 1369523112 770509 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or are those more like finger mittens < 1369523163 500304 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the german word for "glove" is "Handschuh" < 1369523173 468437 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've run out of IRC < 1369523174 210348 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1369523188 821340 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a handsock then? < 1369523190 589393 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Finnish word for glove is "hanska". < 1369523204 850546 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369523237 840493 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or perhaps "hansikas" if you feel formal, but that contraction is quite common. < 1369523251 998076 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the english word for glove is "glove" didn't I just blow your mind? < 1369523254 50468 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikipedia says "käsine" < 1369523256 280520 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :as well < 1369523263 100534 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, okay, that too. < 1369523268 60177 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"käsi" would be "hand". < 1369523352 850406 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What would be Finnish for Handshoe? < 1369523420 681937 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"käsineen" is either "with his/her/its hands" or the possessive form "glove's". < 1369523435 60993 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks to the comitative case. < 1369523443 530707 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Which has a -ne suffix.) < 1369523459 60906 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't decide whether I'm sad or happy than french dropped declinations < 1369523462 468721 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plural third person singular comitative, or something. < 1369523474 250173 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er, s/singular // < 1369523478 445671 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is plural singular a thing in finnish? < 1369523482 460431 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. :( < 1369523491 164671 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_, I'm pretty sure Finnish has more declensions than anyone else < 1369523499 251023 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, actually, that was right. < 1369523519 70500 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, do native Finnish speakers do all these messed up endings instinctively? < 1369523521 746381 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the plural for hand, singular for whose hands it is. < 1369523540 990680 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, but do they concatenate words like German and Dutch? < 1369523556 280594 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_, I believe they concatenate word endings < 1369523559 210671 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Yes, which makes it kind of hard to actually think about them. < 1369523577 50395 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, would it be like me thinking about how "bough" is pronounced? < 1369523587 500609 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps. < 1369523604 460612 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hint: it rhymes with sow and bow, not sow and bow < 1369523614 623845 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: well technically french does that too. "feminine plural" forms are usually the masculine singular form, followed by the feminine ending, followed by the plural ending < 1369523624 370602 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/h so/h se/ < 1369523640 30633 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, i like it better how it is < 1369523674 220947 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The plural of goose is geese, the plural of moose is... < 1369523675 140917 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moose < 1369523689 150740 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :meese < 1369523691 772114 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mice < 1369523716 33221 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :All other languages are weird because they take one thing and stick with it < 1369523721 930931 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doing the comitative for multiple hands for all the six (first, second, third) person (singular, plural) choices doesn't really come out all that instinctively, actually. It's not exactly all that common. < 1369523729 980938 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :English is weird because we did the exact opposite < 1369523754 708656 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :english is really not weird for having exceptions to grammatical rules < 1369523844 882395 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Käsineni, käsinesi, käsineen, käsinemme, käsinenne, käsineen. Maybe. < 1369523848 950898 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you really saying that French follows rules without exceptions < 1369523853 982857 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you really saying that? < 1369523861 820889 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_, French isn't that weird, most of the time < 1369523894 980571 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean for example look at the conjugation of the copula in any language with it < 1369523904 241916 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shit's whack < 1369523916 120471 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :English has at least seven different ways of forming the plural < 1369523917 301044 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the plural of hibou is hiboux, the plural of chou is choux, the plural of caillou is cailloux, etc... but actually most -ou words have plural -ous < 1369523922 131592 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --finnish 10 < 1369523925 651916 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :myynivisittamisse kiehätäislamme monistavimmaksenäjä kysyttämista verbeilevimme eteetta laamalle kullaanne huuteeltäni sykkäymiimme < 1369523951 740877 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the plural for cheval is chevaux, the plural for animal is animaux, but actually most -al words have plural -als < 1369523952 581444 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"monistavimmat": those who copy things the most, approx. < 1369523962 641219 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, don't you know latin... < 1369523974 174316 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :With the "xerox" sense of copy. < 1369524017 411596 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, at least with Latin it doesn't lull you into a false sense of security with "all words use -s as the plural" < 1369524029 631283 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: right now I'm not even sure whether the correct plural is "corails" or "coraux" < 1369524064 793982 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think out of all scientists i feel the most sorry for linguists because they get this crap all the time < 1369524094 500804 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then years later "Oh, this word stays the same in the plural. This word changes its vowel sound. This word gains three letters. This changes its final consonant sounds and gets an s. This chages to an -i. This changes to an -ae. This changes to an -a. This changes to an -odes." < 1369524110 251924 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right like that < 1369524131 830852 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, pluralization makes me angry. < 1369524150 270419 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm just sayin', everything's terrible < 1369525001 471989 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :On another not entirely < 1369525011 351590 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has anyone told cpressey about the Hexham coincidence < 1369525181 832419 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are we sure he can handle it < 1369525306 892393 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, could you handle it, when you found out? < 1369525311 351516 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I certainly couldn't < 1369525507 462234 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://angelhack.com/ elliott make fun of this, i'm too lazy < 1369525525 362716 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can try solving the LEET HACKER puzzle on http://angelhacknyc.eventbrite.com/ for a free ticket (worth $75) < 1369525577 852176 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: fuck fuck fuck poop poop poop shit and their grammar is wrong < 1369525647 141854 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is the big leagues < 1369525652 341809 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: where is this puzzle < 1369525669 182502 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't see the puzzle. is the puzzle finding the puzzle under all this crap < 1369525681 452008 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Free Developer Ticket Code:" < 1369525691 42220 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Previous winners include: Microryza, Osper, Testlio, TapFame, WeFunder, Kloutron, & Airpost" n ever heard of any of these and they sound like dr seuss characters < 1369525711 480531 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Microryza is like a KICKSTARTER for SCIENTIFIC RESEARCH < 1369525712 672063 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that. fucking binary < 1369525751 426580 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Osper is a BANK for CHILDREN < 1369525759 712365 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Testlio is an ODESK for SOFTWARE TESTING < 1369525778 846965 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know what odesk is either < 1369525780 482472 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is hard kmc < 1369525790 413150 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A description for this result is not available because of this site's robots.txt – learn more. ok well osper's looking good < 1369525793 679269 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :TapFame is a DESIGN PORTFOLIO for MOBILE APP DEVELOPMENT < 1369525801 311646 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kloutron is a ROBOT for KLOUT < 1369525808 842808 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :WeFunder is a KICKSTARTER for STARTUPS < 1369525810 682194 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :really < 1369525812 884318 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1369525815 161956 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1369525819 132067 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a kickstarter for kickstarter clones < 1369525837 542234 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy fuck these are actual descriptions < 1369525856 23659 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently barack obama has 99 klout < 1369525864 42095 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :#esoteric is like an IRC CHANNEL for PEOPLE < 1369525864 241754 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@91-145-118-87.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing here < 1369525865 72008 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which makes me wonder what the fuck you need to do to get 100 klout < 1369525866 82585 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :KlouTron is an EXERCISE GAME for IPAD < 1369525867 502513 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :be god?? < 1369525885 499095 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Can photons whisper loud enough to detect cancer?" darn and here i was thinking microryza might be a good idea < 1369525904 367073 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Physical experience of emotion: an early marker of Parkinson's Disease?" what on earth < 1369525912 194289 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1369525922 413962 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :god knows academia is a fucking broken system but i don't think this is gonna help < 1369525939 312064 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Do coal and diesel trains make for unhealthy air?" < 1369525951 743143 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1369525982 702172 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha the photon one turns out to be "Micro-optical sensor for cancer screening" when you actually click on it < 1369526004 382034 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like the idea of doing a kickstarter on actual kickstarter to build a kickstarter clone for kickstarting more kickstarter clones < 1369526048 582137 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run words --english 20 | ghc -e 'interact (unlines . map reverse . lines)' | hyphenate.fi | ghc -e 'interact (unlines . map reverse . lines)' < 1369526053 752681 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kickstartest, we'll call it < 1369526059 902373 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown option: english < 1369526066 651914 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run words 20 | ghc -e 'interact (unlines . map reverse . lines)' | hyphenate.fi | ghc -e 'interact (unlines . map reverse . lines)' < 1369526075 899378 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's p. angocentric, words < 1369526077 862169 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :myt-e frig-en-der klot-tiav-y-ap cet-en raj-har mow dub-ett kak-kan wes-sem-ba che gjre fran-tit-u mes-us-son mal-ted seil mon-a the an-nin-el depl kan < 1369526118 415240 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :klottiavyap doesn't seem very english < 1369526149 530918 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run