< 1369613210 335349 :elieser224!~elieser22@190.121.238.3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369613225 491128 :elieser224!~elieser22@190.121.238.3 PART :#esoteric < 1369613964 945430 :elieser2241!~elieser22@190.121.238.29 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369614213 309049 :elieser2241!~elieser22@190.121.238.29 PART :#esoteric < 1369614844 268757 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1369614908 47602 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1369614956 595090 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1369615019 569189 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1369615267 205308 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1369616375 203946 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is the DS9 finale a 9-parter? < 1369616379 476295 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I think I'm in it < 1369616394 889122 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm in what is at LEAST a 4-parter nearish to the end < 1369616412 232832 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ask yourself: is the ds1 finale a 1-parter? < 1369616464 590561 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_, the last non-finale episode is the holodeck heist one < 1369616471 303836 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if you're past that: yes < 1369616492 692352 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now you just sit back and enjoy the damar < 1369616529 829703 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Inter Arma Enim Silent Lages" is part of the finale? < 1369616541 7501 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember Penumbra saying that it's the continuation < 1369616579 173124 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, i didn't realise that came after < 1369616607 813902 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :penumbra is the first, then < 1369616708 485003 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :man, i forgot how much shit happens in that finale < 1369617014 7347 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_ < 1369617727 870901 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahahaha < 1369617734 95019 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone found out what's inside the cube < 1369617748 18310 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's shitter than our wildest expectations < 1369617798 258383 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's inside the cube < 1369617839 720176 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you get to... fuck around with everyone else who buys molyneux's next game < 1369617873 697669 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :iunno i like fucking around < 1369617881 571227 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also a cut of the sales < 1369617891 663514 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rad. < 1369617892 771358 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_Ey1SA9mqt5g/TdBDY_f0FzI/AAAAAAAAA_k/b7jGEFjSBxM/fighting%20racism.jpg < 1369617904 557257 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean it's nice but it's still shit < 1369617949 55930 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I [want] to thank everyone, even the haters for taking part in Curiosity" < 1369617981 174333 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I [should] start putting random words in [square brackets]. < 1369618009 237355 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The original word was "won't" < 1369618051 524898 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :People won't want to be wont < 1369618083 902677 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps the meaning is "I'm wont to thank everyone" < 1369618089 998937 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems more likely to me!!!! < 1369618116 293135 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: ynoqy < 1369618187 88203 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : hi < 1369618215 428755 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello, mnoqy. hello < 1369618244 910877 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi shachaf < 1369618244 986768 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :The flying bismuth bronze bolt strikes The Rattlesnake in the head, tearing the muscle, shattering the skull and tearing the brain! < 1369618252 940940 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Rattlesnake is propelled away by the force of the blow! The Rattlesnake's body skids along the ground, bruising the fat! < 1369618256 985877 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kosoth Ulengingish has become a Hunter. < 1369618262 941755 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no mnoqy < 1369618263 280035 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm starting to like this game < 1369618266 850625 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i won t accept that greeting < 1369618268 984728 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :not today < 1369618282 972364 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :don t sass me < 1369618300 268982 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn sass < 1369618301 229582 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*** "sass" wn "WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)" < 1369618301 332515 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sass < 1369618301 404109 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : n 1: an impudent or insolent rejoinder; "don't give me any of < 1369618301 404175 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : your sass" [syn: {sass}, {sassing}, {backtalk}, {back < 1369618301 404219 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : talk}, {lip}, {mouth}] < 1369618303 163213 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[3 @more lines] < 1369618305 542549 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@more < 1369618305 780487 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : v 1: answer back in an impudent or insolent manner; "don't sass < 1369618307 191682 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : me!"; "The teacher punished the students who were sassing < 1369618309 175615 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : all morning"; < 1369618317 801146 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hey you're being quoted in @wn < 1369618320 819434 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're famous < 1369618335 411989 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that like being quoted in HN < 1369618352 398860 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: let's compromise on being quoted in HWN < 1369618399 562741 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369619382 652280 :elieser224!~elieser22@190.121.239.21 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369619391 510369 :elieser224!~elieser22@190.121.239.21 PART :#esoteric < 1369619783 204913 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1369620378 222444 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know what is wrong with this program? It doesn't work. http://sprunge.us/CLdK < 1369620401 660481 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I were to guess, I'd say you hit the nail on the head < 1369620408 642520 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does seem like a flaw < 1369620427 588273 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :see http://www.supermegacomics.com/index.php?i=396 < 1369620428 777591 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :panel 4 < 1369620445 479953 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean specifically. < 1369620468 611027 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1369620500 920450 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.supermegacomics.com/index.php?i=400 this is basically Kadath < 1369620504 509403 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://snapplr.com/817q < 1369620562 171390 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean do you know what is specifically wrong what part? < 1369620617 857609 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope, it's a little hard to diagnose such a large unit < 1369620649 755141 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: that looks like a healthy dinner < 1369620662 900709 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree < 1369620673 847165 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :4YOUR healthy dinner!! < 1369620739 341848 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg < 1369620741 481857 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did you know! < 1369621241 96994 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who can help me with this program? It does partially works, after I fixed a few mistakes that caused it to not work at all. < 1369621467 709949 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua JOIN :#esoteric < 1369622510 328253 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :) 'And so Im back! From outer space!' < 1369622510 744509 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: And so Im back! From outer space! < 1369622529 622188 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently in the Star Trek world, creating a disease means you know how to cure it. < 1369622563 344202 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`erflist < 1369622564 866607 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: erflist: not found < 1369622652 869081 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :error function list < 1369623047 14974 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1369623117 977855 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1369623767 701553 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :was that a gloria gaynor reference? < 1369623785 103631 :elieser2241!~elieser22@190.121.239.11 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369623795 694154 :elieser2241!~elieser22@190.121.239.11 PART :#esoteric < 1369625210 414921 :elieser224!~elieser22@190.121.238.13 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369625257 14557 :elieser224!~elieser22@190.121.238.13 PART :#esoteric < 1369625626 134191 :elieser2241!~elieser22@190.121.238.29 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369625629 561759 :elieser2241!~elieser22@190.121.238.29 PART :#esoteric < 1369627876 908252 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1369627972 151686 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1369628884 915183 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I realize how much kind of time controls might be made for different games (including the combination), such as shot clock, chess clock, battle clock, match clock, byoyomi, timer increments, etc, and what happens when you run out of time can also be varied. < 1369629381 119627 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1369630046 475259 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://forlackofabettercomic.com/?id=162 < 1369630127 936079 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can confirm that's what copumpkin looks like < 1369630263 839903 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hurray, Internet. < 1369631265 220641 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is about to watch "What You Leave Behind < 1369631337 666420 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :" < 1369631384 5119 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:ae81:12ff:fe32:878a QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1369631613 262698 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: yay! < 1369631628 772611 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: moved out yet? :P < 1369632633 857010 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: what cheeses are thoses? < 1369632687 786107 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, copumpkin ^ < 1369632728 322471 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, delice de bourgogne, iberico, roquefort, comté, and emmental < 1369632911 204521 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1369633106 635259 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: is @WN like HWN but for @ < 1369633111 564850 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(cc: elliott) < 1369633134 951041 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: why is buttermilk so awesome? < 1369633154 47284 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: olist is for Order of the Stick updates. < 1369633345 88461 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have added another Deadfish implementation. < 1369633507 603958 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :This one is a Z-machine program. < 1369633950 570326 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the point of Deadfish < 1369633976 473819 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should probably implement Gob's Program in Befunge < 1369633997 652875 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :unsigned int x; /* make a positive integer and call it x */ < 1369634000 77655 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :;_; < 1369634071 372181 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha < 1369634087 432115 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell phantom_hoover https://twitter.com/mc_hankins/status/338742820129107968/photo/1 more significance < 1369634087 539117 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1369634185 875646 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm Gob's Program is just a juvenile truth machine < 1369634200 379416 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(http://esolangs.org/wiki/Truth-machine) < 1369634780 81829 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe this program can be shortened even more. Currently it is 72 bytes not counting a header, when it is compiled. Changing PRINTC to do PRINTI with a custom alphabet table with only '>' can shorten a bit more (the rest of the alphabet table will overlap the program, and isn't used, unless it echos the command also using the alphabet table!) < 1369634879 986210 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is only 16-bit numbers, though, and is signed (this is due to how Z-machine works). < 1369635320 427025 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can the Deadfish implementation be made with DNA, or one using a hardware programming language (such as Verilog and VHDL), or etc ? < 1369635364 674842 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Deadfish implementation in AWK is short: sub(/o/,x=x*(x>0&&x-256)*x^/s/+/i/-/d/) < 1369635391 98041 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I don't really know what is the point of Deadfish, or of the XKCD variation, but I do know that the XKCD variation can be implemented in dc. < 1369635654 821150 :impomatic!~digital_w@146.90.227.178 QUIT :Quit: impomatic < 1369636021 715236 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There isn't one in INTERCAL yet. < 1369636734 46129 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1369636916 229231 :Bike_!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1369637106 836581 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finished DS9 < 1369637342 440632 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1369637399 728948 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1369638829 170576 :Bike_!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1369641443 487342 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1369642206 464484 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`WELCOME Taneb < 1369642211 20155 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :TANEB: WELCOME TO THE INTERNATIONAL HUB FOR ESOTERIC PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE DESIGN AND DEPLOYMENT! FOR MORE INFORMATION, CHECK OUT OUR WIKI: HTTP://ESOLANGS.ORG/WIKI/MAIN_PAGE. (FOR THE OTHER KIND OF ESOTERICA, TRY #ESOTERIC ON IRC.DAL.NET.) < 1369642224 969217 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :HI < 1369643996 484045 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1369644806 235 :ggherdov!uid11402@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ivjpvuhwrpfxrgjz QUIT :Changing host < 1369644806 390 :ggherdov!uid11402@unaffiliated/ggherdov JOIN :#esoteric < 1369644806 109060 :ggherdov!uid11402@unaffiliated/ggherdov QUIT :Changing host < 1369644806 109200 :ggherdov!uid11402@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ivjpvuhwrpfxrgjz JOIN :#esoteric < 1369645103 100828 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, help < 1369645106 289640 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm install Agda < 1369645352 855797 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm having to repeatedly change the source so it compiles with newer versions of Hashable < 1369645714 965708 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1369645870 843403 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh... < 1369645877 728390 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Complain to bos? < 1369645887 505748 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's probably fixed in HEAD < 1369645892 422607 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I've got it working now < 1369645892 636663 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369645935 419944 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, it's fixed in HEAD < 1369645945 881100 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'm using the Hackage version < 1369645985 601843 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :use HEAD hth < 1369646578 394472 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1369646598 708545 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369647387 96316 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1369647570 119264 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"VIDEO: [H264] 640x480 24bpp 90000.000 fps 4004.6 kbps (488.8 kbyte/s)" that's a lot of fps. < 1369647667 417803 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1369647749 941491 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...constructor names are not required to be distinct between different datatypes? What is this madness? < 1369647807 27312 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wElCoMe mnoqy < 1369647808 835109 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: wElCoMe: not found < 1369647814 632105 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1369647832 490463 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1369648091 109729 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: ;-) < 1369648098 760166 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::--] < 1369648111 782628 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Well, you can figure it out from the type. So why not? < 1369648125 99510 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, it feels a bit weird < 1369648216 713823 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is actually making me feel dizzy < 1369648537 743852 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :calm Downeb < 1369648555 744968 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :calmeegan mcallister < 1369648991 81363 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :calmnoqy < 1369649053 197201 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The calmnoqy before the storm. < 1369649919 246025 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You folks surely know if there's some (free) "An-druid Abb" that'd basically do nothing else but capture video from the (front-facing) camera, encode it, and then stream it over, say, RTP/RTSP or something? The closest I've come across is this "IP Webcam", which does some sort of MJPEG-over-HTTP stream, but it's quite quirky and slightly sluggish; I think it uses some sort of software encoder, ... < 1369649925 745320 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... instead of whatever hardware-assisted fancitude the regular video recording app uses. (And then things like Qik, Livestream and Ustream which do the right thing, but only via third-party services.) < 1369650174 554646 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learning Agda, I have a feeling I'm going to come to despise the Mathematical Operators unicode block < 1369650423 710799 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :theres plenty more to agda than the mathematical operators unicode block < 1369650430 508355 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :take, for example, the other unicode blocks < 1369651058 995214 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... has anyone ever made a Zalgo-oriented esolang? < 1369651133 896200 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome cpressey < 1369651135 944972 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1369651186 524699 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy, Taneb: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahBU4Py5cPg < 1369651257 13938 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I̛̹̩̪͙͓̼̙ͥ͊ͨ́fͪ͜͏͈̯͖̝̙ ͕̳͍̬̯̙͉ͯͮ͐ͣ͌̇̈́̏n̡̡̗̳͉̖̙̹̰̮͌̍ͫ̋o̞͈̅̊̀̈́̿̿̚t̽̒͗̒̑ͩ̿͑͏͉̪̱̦̣͖̀͞,̵̛̥̟̔͐ͥͯ̓̒ͦ̚ ̡̨̤͔͎͎͇̗͊͊̐͛̆ͯͅͅț̰̠̱͌͊ͬͫ̏̌͠ͅh̯̞̭̗̔̆̏̕͠͡e̅̏͏̧̩̼̗͇̮̹̫̥n̶̓͏̮̥̳̪͇͟ ͍̘͉̖̟̻̣̒͆ͨ̚̕͘ͅs͓̱͚̗͉̰͊ͦ͐̿ͨ̔̓͂ͅô̱̘̹͎̥̤͛̀ḿ̯͈̗̾ͮͫ̾̒͗͗̈́ė̯̘͔̺͔̜̞ͯ̊̅̑̔oͧ̏ͤ͗̊̑̂҉̷̢ < 1369651293 36270 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :see, that could be a brainfuck interpreter or something right there, just in the combining characters < 1369651348 143396 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bonjour shachaf < 1369651349 315985 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: bonjour: not found < 1369651360 350002 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome cpressey < 1369651364 39174 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​02cp06r07essey: Welcome 02to08 the i13nt09ernational hub for esoteric06 programm08ing l14an12guage design12 and deploy03ment! F11or more information, c10heck o07ut ou14r w13iki03: h02ttp://esol11angs.org04/wiki/Main_P07age. (For 07th12e other kin06d of es09oterica, try #esote05r05ic on irc.dal.05ne03t.) < 1369651377 161586 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo blah | zalgo < 1369651378 725276 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :b̭̚l̺ͦǎ͓h̔͠ < 1369651382 859639 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*`bienvenue < 1369651395 160065 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Surely you mean "tervetuloa". < 1369651401 564262 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo i love mononoids. they are so easy | zalgo < 1369651405 165829 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :i͛͛ ̗̎l̈́̽o̴ͨv̡̊e̵ͣ ̲͑m͒̽ò̇n̎͡o͎͌n̂̎ò̦i̫ͯd͊̆s͚̟.ͯ̽ ̸͝t̺̚ĥ͎e̖͈y̽͆ ̐̀a̓̉r͉ͮe̺̅ ̒̈s̱͛o̐̀ ͧͯe̮ͬaͨ́s͚̹y̭͑ < 1369651459 273941 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo i love mononoids. they are so easy | zalgo | zalgo | zalgo | zalgo | zalgo < 1369651462 467071 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :i̴̧̫̦̾͋̂̇ͥͅ ̵̞̏͛̅͆ͮ̓͢͞ļ͚̯͓͊ͤ̊͌͐́ơ̺̜ͭ́́ͩ̔ͨ͝v͍̲͔͎̝ͨ͌̇͘͏e̩̲̯̦̤ͩ͛͂̽̋ ͇͍̯̦̣̩͆́̽ͩm͎̜̝͓̙͖ͣ̀̀͟ó̘͈͖̫ͥ̅͗̽ͮn̶͉̼̔็͕͚̿̈́͟ơ͉͔͚̟͗̀̎̋̎ņ̣͙̤̪ͦ͊̊͞ͅo͓̭̗̩̫̿͒̋̔ͅì̢̬̯̳̜̔̑͝͡d̸͇͉̝̀̀ͫͧͮ̀s̨͙̠͎̠̲͑̑ͦ͘.̹̮̼̽̓̀ < 1369651468 824817 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that messes up my terminal so good < 1369651472 138347 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome.fr cpressey < 1369651473 473699 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: welcome.fr: not found < 1369651479 738967 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? welcome.fr < 1369651481 310147 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :welcome.fr? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1369651483 477382 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1369651491 717755 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo Taneb | zalgo | zalgo | zalgo | zalgo | zalgo < 1369651494 720437 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :T̶̙̪̰̘̲͕ͩ̓͘a̴̰̞̙ͭ́͛̄ͪ̔n̡̯̂ͭ́͗̀͢͠͏ě͓̼͍̻͌͒̍͐͠b̛͏̴̢̙͕ͯ͑͗͢ < 1369651520 814587 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo do y'all see what i see | zalgo | zalgo | zalgo | zalgo | zalgo < 1369651522 178512 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: -c: line 0: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `'' \ bash: -c: line 1: syntax error: unexpected end of file < 1369651525 700094 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo shachaf | zalgo | hh | zalgo < 1369651527 878614 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: hh: command not found \ close failed in file object destructor: \ Error in sys.excepthook: \ \ Original exception was: < 1369651530 22326 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo do y\'all see what i see | zalgo | zalgo | zalgo | zalgo | zalgo < 1369651531 576625 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo shachaf | zalgo | h | zalgo < 1369651533 140627 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :d͇͔̀́็̜҉̥̤̄o̧̼͉̮̓ͬ̓̂̑͘ ̴̨̼̻͔ͤͬ͒̏ͅy̪̯̘̝̿̇͑ͥ̉ͫ'̷̶̸͔̫̖̤̭̂͐a̫̹̤̱ͮ̓̿͒ͬ̉l̳͔̳̤̦̄͋́͏̡l̡͔͉̙͐ͥ͒̌҉ͯ ̺̝̹̜̹̀͆̏ͣ͝ș̛ͩ̃͐͡҉̹̎̂e͏͔̼̺̯̟̔ͦ̂͡e̵̟͔ͦ͛̐͝҉̓͒ ̡̘̲̤͋ͪ̍ͤ̋͐ẁ̴̮̬͎̫̐̿̈́͡ḩ̴̢̝͈͆̃̋͋̕ą̞̙̰̂̈̋͊̇͜t̶̼̾͆̆̈́ < 1369651533 741076 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :s̹̉̽͝h̡็̳̇a̻̭̺͜ĉ͎็̰h̛̖̪ͫa̢͕̕͝f̶̻̐̈́ < 1369651542 944413 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo Taneb | h | zalgo | h | zalgo < 1369651545 548379 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ṱ̶ͨ͞aͪ็̒ͪh̥͒͡͠n̸ͣ͆̑e̗͆̈̚h̖ͮ̓ͮb̧͛ͩ͜ < 1369651547 36370 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@brain are you thinking what Taneb is thinking? < 1369651547 122919 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think so, Brain, but culottes have a tendency to ride up so. < 1369651558 182088 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: What's your postal address? < 1369651562 257693 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :6 Hexham < 1369651564 822959 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As I said < 1369651575 747664 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whhh shouldn't that be @pinky ? < 1369651580 84930 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The real one. < 1369651591 134303 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: brain is an abbreviation for pinky and the brain < 1369651601 680331 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix ("pinky and the "++) < 1369651603 208560 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : "pinky and the pinky and the pinky and the pinky and the pinky and the pink... < 1369651618 170181 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :brain brain brain brain / brain brain brain brain / NARF < 1369651646 81718 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@brain are you pondering what i'm pondering? < 1369651646 321752 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh, I think so Brain, but this time, you wear the tutu. < 1369651654 969765 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@brain also gives Brain quotes sometimes. < 1369651655 331063 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh, I think so, Brain, but we'll never get a monkey to use dental floss. < 1369651664 227091 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yes but that is not an answer to my question < 1369651676 718541 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: I'm sorry, I'm not a moralist. < 1369651682 490465 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't answer "should" questions. < 1369651780 823857 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: Did you send that email? < 1369652043 338392 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fine, fine, fine, in my opinion which is not to be assumed to be shared by anyone else at all @pinky would have a much better cadence than @brain if it's going to return Pinky quotes. < 1369652053 376753 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@brain < 1369652053 611217 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@brain < 1369652053 682823 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think so, Brain, but don't you need a swimming pool to play Marco Polo? < 1369652053 860062 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@brain < 1369652053 932331 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think so, Brain, but there's still a bug stuck in here from last time. < 1369652054 72675 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh, I think so, Brain, but balancing a family and a career ... ooh, it's all too much for me. < 1369652055 304427 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@brain < 1369652055 516447 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gee, Brain, what are we going to do tonight? < 1369652055 587897 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@brain < 1369652055 731661 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The same thing we do every night, Pinky. Try to take over the world! < 1369652055 868260 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The game does not conclude until the woman with the eating disorder ululates. < 1369652057 55172 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yes i did < 1369652057 921113 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@brain < 1369652058 31654 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Brain! Brain! You aren't going to leave me!!!???You know what happened to Jerry Lewis after Dean Martin left him!!! < 1369652060 330671 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There you go! < 1369652093 776283 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i feel you might still not be getting what i'm getting at but never mind < 1369652169 214865 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: The important part of the I'm-not-a-moralist thing is that moraliszing about lambdabot is useless. < 1369652172 556640 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot is < 1369652177 572536 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot does not change < 1369652193 4213 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot always has been < 1369652256 200092 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot sucks < 1369652266 533277 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure. < 1369652299 880558 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION checks the muzzle of his ray gun to make sure it's not clogged or something < 1369652479 873796 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run quotes cpressey | shuf < 1369652481 986487 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :252) addquoting yourself? isn't that like commenting on your own facebook status? Yup, but I'm JUST THAT AWESOME. \ 124) cpressey, oh go to zzo's website. He is NIH AnMaster, really? I was strongly under the impression that zzo was invented here. \ 267) BYE dbc WE'LL BE SURE TO ACCIDENTA < 1369652844 84632 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1369653080 577354 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm having trouble with this exercise < 1369653114 774812 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*exersize < 1369653120 698143 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ftfy < 1369653139 996226 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey, I go with what my spell checker tells me < 1369653148 150198 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Currently it's set to British spelling < 1369653154 663467 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is appropriate because I am in the UK < 1369653164 710593 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought you were in Hexham. < 1369653183 536069 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, I'm in a British enclave < 1369653322 70170 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION whacks his ray gun against the bulkhead a couple of times < 1369653335 898613 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know what's up with this thing < 1369653477 507095 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, all I know is that Phantom_Hoover must have had his spell checker set to some really kick-ass dialect of English when he was writing his latest blog post, that's all. < 1369653486 369305 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and editing it, too, 'cos it now says "exersise" < 1369653578 482820 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i call dibs on his pancreas) < 1369653642 78349 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suspect that maybe his browser was glitching and only spell-checked the first paragraph < 1369653652 761506 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those articles on phantom-hoover.tumblr.com don't seem a whole lot like Phantom_Hoover at all. < 1369653659 482489 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder whether something is up. < 1369653924 637547 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any, as I was saying, I'm having trouble with this exercise < 1369653951 218979 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Exercise 2.1 c in http://www.cse.chalmers.se/~ulfn/papers/afp08/tutorial.pdf < 1369653996 940357 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: want another exercise?? < 1369654003 816504 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :in-place matrix transposition < 1369654004 496015 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1369655520 22875 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369657162 39655 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1369657891 463055 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1369658268 971281 :carado_!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:ae81:12ff:fe32:878a JOIN :#esoteric < 1369658289 64478 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1369658467 936897 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369659257 824958 :carado_!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:ae81:12ff:fe32:878a QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1369659354 390515 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1369659391 887392 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good morning! what is a tyhjä? < 1369659529 898413 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :EMPTY. < 1369659567 349147 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :good morning! what is a fizzie? < 1369659592 40211 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.sss.fi/uutiset/143026_515h.JPG <- governance in action. < 1369659608 992542 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's the voting-board in the Finnish parliament.) < 1369659664 845266 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a poissa < 1369659670 230951 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"away". < 1369659670 429745 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net TOPIC #esoteric :LLVM, Z-machine, Nintendo Famicom, etc | http://underhanded.xcott.com/?page_id=5 | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric | I vote TYHJIÄ < 1369659699 629211 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you tell me that tyhjä and tyhjiä are both valid words. < 1369659704 174063 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: That's actually something like "EMPTIES"; since it's counting the number of. I'm sure it says TYHJÄ in the button. < 1369659707 369580 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1369659726 238217 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. hm. < 1369659734 376686 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net TOPIC #esoteric :LLVM, Z-machine, Nintendo Famicom, etc | http://underhanded.xcott.com/?page_id=5 | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric | I vote TYHJÄ. < 1369659753 324210 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :couldn't you have normal plurals? like vide and vides? < 1369659906 624481 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :We have more or less normal plurals. Tyhjät would be the normal plural of tyhjä, using the most common -t suffix. It's just... complicated. < 1369659954 695256 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_grammar#Plurals -- nominative plural vs. inflected plural. < 1369659992 533460 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The huone -> huoneita is, I think, the same as tyhjä -> tyhjiä.) < 1369659999 481618 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :your language is a facebook relationship. < 1369660087 515487 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Empty room -> (some) empty rooms / (the) empty rooms :: tyhjä huone -> tyhjiä huoneita / tyhjät huoneet. < 1369660150 952976 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :salle vide -> des salles vides / les salles vides. < 1369660242 78418 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the empty room -> in the empty rooms :: tyhjässä huoneessa -> tyhjissä huoneissa. See, simple. < 1369660276 151069 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'm gonna go fetch some coffee, and reflect on the matter when my brain'll have fully booted... < 1369660652 641800 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :m < 1369661169 943088 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sigh, i leave the room for ten minutes and my cat starts recommending films to y'all < 1369661199 389184 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey, did you ever here the legend of Friendship Mouse? < 1369661212 439537 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: don't think so, no < 1369661222 845771 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AND NOW YOU NEVER WILL! < 1369661225 304259 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AHAHAHAHAHA! < 1369661312 803220 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :DAMN YOU, TANEB! DAMN YOU TO HELL! < 1369661362 885992 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :DANEB < 1369661383 965220 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does Anyone Not Enjoy BRAAAAAINS < 1369661395 748854 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(A: yes) < 1369661861 795738 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1369662466 351237 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369662495 53266 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1369662604 890184 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1369662929 468838 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1369663025 328532 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1369663071 862112 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369663077 583109 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric : DAMN YOU, TANEB! DAMN YOU TO HELL! <-- and thus starts the great cpressey - ais523 flamewar. < 1369663099 306712 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, interviewing me would be a bad idea hth < 1369663165 312293 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :"interviewing me would be a bad idea hth" -- oerjan < 1369663179 498148 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1369663191 378960 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: HackEgo is thataway hth < 1369663217 756617 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe we can interview fungot. < 1369663217 864193 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: yes, it's been awhile prometheus! marle too! ayla have fun! i heard you were to be executed, dear! < 1369663254 777276 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems enthusiastic. < 1369663319 486415 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 241 seconds < 1369663376 298017 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: OH OK AND HERE I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA < 1369663435 313337 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: hi < 1369663436 416153 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ftr I have no idea if "Friendship Mouse" is A Thing or something Taneb just made up, nor do I have any inkling as to its possible relationship to ais523 < 1369663465 632988 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: hi < 1369663508 538032 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think #esoteric is "about" inklings < 1369663555 20057 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :knowledge, awareness, notion, idea, information < 1369663562 768747 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, not any of those things either? ok < 1369663656 758518 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there any updates to the wsj saga < 1369663671 673433 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn saga < 1369663672 635267 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*** "saga" wn "WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)" < 1369663672 777124 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :saga < 1369663672 873452 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : n 1: a narrative telling the adventures of a hero or a family; < 1369663672 945555 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : originally (12th to 14th centuries) a story of the families < 1369663672 945755 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : that settled Iceland and their descendants but now any < 1369663674 656243 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : prose narrative that resembles such an account < 1369663708 481669 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: cpressey sent email, cpressey awaits response < 1369663720 852913 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey talks in third person < 1369663800 479886 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :would you have preferred {TaskId: 1, Title: "send email", AssignedTo: "cpressey", State: "done"} < 1369663838 365273 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :on a little yellow sticky note < 1369663851 540157 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you write... json on sticky notes? < 1369663858 771915 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you... don't? < 1369663863 424396 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that even valid json!! < 1369663867 125004 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't you have to quote the keys < 1369663910 680101 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I recall the official grammar right, you do. < 1369663938 717486 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :look, just because i write json on sticky notes doesn't mean THAT was json < 1369663956 346727 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you sure you're following the "use json for good not evil" part of the license cpressey < 1369664035 69799 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :excuse me while i confer with my counsel < 1369664042 680303 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :send emailcpressey < 1369664101 43898 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :What, no namespace declarations? < 1369664101 284640 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(tell 'Jafet '(You vile XML fiend that you are)) < 1369664162 571094 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: If by "moved out" you mean " < 1369664172 611321 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: If by "moved out" you mean "went to MO for summer internship" then yes. < 1369664182 890055 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Technically not moved out as yet, but. < 1369664189 477187 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :(at (least (XML (doesn '(t (make (you (do (this)))))))) < 1369664445 616829 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: MO? < 1369664480 123014 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Missouri. < 1369664522 471651 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Two states, 833 miles, or 12 hours away. < 1369664677 649446 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1369664918 367947 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1369665282 37286 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or 6 hours if you're riding a bike < 1369665287 282236 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :6 days* < 1369665387 652524 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369665694 462180 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1369666158 187153 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 QUIT : < 1369666212 465681 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1369666802 212953 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.143.211 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369666921 29827 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :" Direct TCP access to remote HTTPS servers (port 443) is blocked." < 1369666922 970193 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHAAAT < 1369666985 245734 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, seems to be a false report on netalyzr's part. < 1369667030 273073 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Assuming github actually *does* have a SHA-1 fingerprint of CE 67 99 25 2C AC 78 12 7D 94 B5 62 2C 31 C5 16 A6 34 73 53 < 1369667311 126442 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1369667514 494412 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1369669072 345577 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369669398 380124 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!logs < 1369669398 640178 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1369669450 737971 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the fuck < 1369670073 833733 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, I finished DS9 < 1369670104 932982 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good, you're making progress on working off your shit tv sci-fi debt < 1369670114 86177 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now watch farscape and stop watching doctor who < 1369670354 919131 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: so you were implementing @ while you were away right < 1369670805 219217 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua JOIN :#esoteric < 1369671041 3023 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, did you just imply DS9 and Farscape are shit TV? < 1369671042 667607 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1369671067 963459 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, i'm implying you indiscriminately watch shit tv < 1369671116 944348 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think he was implying doctor who is, though < 1369671461 938442 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yes, and for extra challenge, i've been implementing it in denim and broken glass (note: i didn't bother to look up what @ is before replying to you) < 1369671498 287330 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think my cat actually had a good idea there, i think instead of shit tv y'all should watch "M" < 1369671533 959158 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: oh were you not around when elliottOS became @ < 1369671550 302491 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i was i didn't notice. maybe i was. < 1369672371 305071 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1369672420 80983 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1369672439 182860 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1369672471 652850 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1369672844 10445 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i was. oh hey http://catseye.tc/ehird/files-suck.html that's still there < 1369673196 242088 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i found that again recently because osmeone asked about it or something. past me is super annoying < 1369673199 677726 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1369673289 719269 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1369673303 197945 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that someone was me? < 1369673364 222349 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :It appears Clint Eastwood is an anagram of Old West Action, heh < 1369673677 950462 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1369673737 632313 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 QUIT : < 1369673814 708397 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1369673917 394331 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1369675077 215460 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: lovely usage of the diaeresis in reëncode. < 1369675169 520120 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: don't compliment me, compliment elliott. btw, was there a... question... or something, that you wanted to ask me? < 1369675203 396371 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, didn't see the author at the end. < 1369675229 604336 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :about that question, maybe. I can't remember. (I can't recall. I got no memories, of anything at all ♪) < 1369675296 17209 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah well i know what that's like < 1369675321 749691 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION gives a hard, incredulous, slightly-disgusted-looking glare in elliott < 1369675330 987865 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*elliot's direction < 1369675338 206956 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*elliott's direction < 1369675349 285187 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elito hurd. < 1369675353 685532 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :damned hard to type with a pen in your hand i really ought to put thuis thing down < 1369675359 42976 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: that didn't sound finnish to me. < 1369675436 883071 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: you know, _the_ question. < 1369675466 292450 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, Big Finish? < 1369675469 995282 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: It's not, though "elit" and "hurja" would be words pretty close to those. (They don't quite work as a sentence, sadly.) < 1369675646 194409 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ah! if it's about the coördinates and weigh... < 1369675672 929214 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: I'd be honoured to compile your approximate geographic coördinates and body weigh into my humble log. < 1369675703 840901 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's for the greater good of humanity, viz. to demonstrate that the center of the Universe isn't in hexham.) < 1369675707 904080 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: So where's the Google Maps view of this log? < 1369675740 319770 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: as soon as elliott gives me something easily parsable. < 1369675776 593585 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Easily asparagus. < 1369675784 918970 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: oh hey you don't know about the whole hexham thing do you < 1369675805 267759 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I've heard the name enough now but no < 1369675826 294519 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: you sound feverish and fungotty. is everything fine? do you feel dizzy, sweaty, have urges to eat ice cream with pickles? < 1369675826 747175 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: by thy leave, crono?!! you brought back my cat! thank you, crono! cider please! the hero has made the epoch, your wings! now this is a treasure there... found the treasure!! probably filled with mystical forest powers are being drained. why not? then you should leave quickly! < 1369675832 32622 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the hexham experiment < 1369675839 147230 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: well you see i live in this small pretty rural town called hexham, pop ~11k or so < 1369675847 235734 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@199.185.88.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369675857 434795 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: taneb arrives here like a year or two ago, few weeks later we find out he's from the same fucking town < 1369675868 117482 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: "parsa" is Finnish for asparagus. < 1369675878 450197 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ah. makes sense. < 1369675885 673688 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :("From Russian спаржа.") < 1369675918 587011 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they haven't met irl because they're both creepy losers < 1369675921 731610 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We're around the same age, broadly similar interests, in the same small town, and we have never met < 1369675931 408312 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, hey, I'm not a loser! < 1369675948 635777 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're just creepy? < 1369675952 972924 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :-roll- < 1369675953 790116 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I second your motion that Taneb's creepy. < 1369675964 630881 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well my current location is ZOMGCLASSIFIED but i can reveal that i'm now geographically closer to Hexham than I've ever been before in my file. so there ya go. < 1369675994 286087 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db42299.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shadows over hexham < 1369675999 441965 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as for my weight, i'll have to get a bathroom scale < 1369676001 758100 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll put ZOMGHEXHAMIFIED. < 1369676015 94325 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: is it actually in the uk or is this just a very tenuous definition of closer < 1369676028 119197 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, i'm *positive* i noticed i typed "file" and corrected it with "life" but i probably just typed "file" again < 1369676029 490957 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well before now he's always been in gansu < 1369676033 469406 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also will it be revealed as soon as you design a language and have to sign it < 1369676034 563206 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but now he lives in turkmenistan < 1369676037 444488 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is cpressey in a super-secret Canadia military base in Acomb < 1369676049 688398 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, i almost did it again that time too < 1369676059 149226 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably. Canada is very mysterious. < 1369676059 266245 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid programmer fingers < 1369676067 506842 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: ah, you're in Cornwall, WTF. < 1369676077 185012 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is cornwall even real < 1369676080 203594 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1369676084 200662 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :neither is WTF < 1369676088 843968 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: LIES < 1369676089 626628 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1369676107 105397 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: is cornwall just what you put on language specs to mislead the feds < 1369676137 106168 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sigh, no, you got me, I'm presently in Cornwall < 1369676141 116510 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: cornwall, the one you get to from the 401? < 1369676151 564688 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey's shameful secret revealed < 1369676152 547938 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: no, the one that one is named after < 1369676165 855470 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you people talking about canada < 1369676181 180827 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's canada < 1369676181 949269 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. 401 is secret code for a vile highway in ON. < 1369676185 892775 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yes, everything in Canada is named after something in either England or France < 1369676193 595526 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(you and your damned good quality highway with decent drivers!) < 1369676196 216688 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, in Ontario, anyway < 1369676214 583129 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quebec is named after a small town in County Durham < 1369676214 677418 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: it bears pointing out that neither Canada nor France exist < 1369676219 924871 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(why can't we have nice asphalt here... oh yeah. winters and italian mafia.) < 1369676234 11759 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION whacks Taneb with a poutine < 1369676235 165300 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently there's a famous MIDI file called clouds.mid < 1369676244 290968 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a famous MIDI file < 1369676254 131195 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I vaguely remember deserving that < 1369676259 321195 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db42299.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it a program? < 1369676282 948301 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: you always do. < 1369676305 531189 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://soundcloud.com/brianorr/clouds < 1369676321 426664 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db42299.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it oviously is not < 1369676346 210948 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: btw, "After all (and if you'll forgive the anthropomorphizing self-insertion in this sentence), if you pass me a primitive recursive function, and I'm primitive recursive, I'll remain primitive recursive no matter how many times I call your function." isn't quite true, I don't think < 1369676347 78853 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I live closest to Hexham (approx. 1698876 metres) that I have ever lived before (approx. 1699085 metres), so maybe that counts as quite Hexhamified too. < 1369676361 43112 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1369676365 415540 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: higher-order "primitive recursion" can express ackermann < 1369676397 599959 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: explain how sentence is false < 1369676409 505290 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: well, ackermann is not primitive recursive. < 1369676441 140812 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, define "higher-order primtive recursion" please < 1369676449 537734 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, that's the harder part :P < 1369676460 214032 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ackermann_function#Definition_and_properties has a higher-order "primitive recursive" definition < 1369676464 525473 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :at the bottom < 1369676494 300729 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :7535000 meters for me apparently. that's a lot of meters < 1369676514 370711 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Huh, it's only 1.7 kilokilometres to Hexham? That's disturbingly close.) < 1369676535 687479 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: can you give me some text I can ^F into my browser to get to "the bottom" to which you refer < 1369676541 492571 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh I mean megametres SI COPS DON'T TASE ME < 1369676573 539995 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: use leagues and furlongs. it's better for your safety. < 1369676575 983945 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: "currying". it's only a page down < 1369676590 914301 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: This extreme < 1369676601 359178 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1369676618 395100 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in particular this is why you can define Ackermann in Coq or Agda or whatever without problems) < 1369676628 514025 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Almost exactly a million Smoots. (One of the units Google Earth's ruler supports.) < 1369676636 732252 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(despite the only kind of recursion you get on naturals being the standard induction principle) < 1369676646 839122 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well, both Coq and Agda are weird about that but whatever) < 1369676649 637097 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it's written in lowercase. A megasmoot, then. < 1369676661 744989 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :HI < 1369676675 512061 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :HELLOLSNER! < 1369676821 668607 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In a category with exponentials" which, of course, wikipedia goes into great deal about what they mean there < 1369676962 663322 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a category with tetration, < 1369676998 606313 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: that means you have "functions" (after the B^A set theory notation for A -> B) in the category < 1369677009 176596 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or basically it means that you have objects representing arrows < 1369677016 594917 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't know why it mentions it at all honestly) < 1369677040 563602 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's really just saying you get a curried ackermann out of it given that you have higher-order functions < 1369677177 623079 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok *well* < 1369677320 123677 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you zoom out on that paragraph, it says: "Ackermann grows faster than any primitive recursive function. Here's a primitive recursive definition for the Ackermann function: ..." which -- if you ask me -- is really begging for a *leetle* more "and you see, this is OK because" verbiage in there somewhere. < 1369677368 848084 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well in the first sentence's context "primitive recursive function" excludes higher order functions doesn't it < 1369677378 152360 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: yes it's bad... it is a different kind of primitive recursion < 1369677384 610626 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The primitive recursive functions are among the number-theoretic functions, which are functions from the natural numbers (nonnegative integers) {0, 1, 2, ...} to the natural numbers." -- WP < 1369677396 956246 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1369677398 97365 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you add higher-order functions to that mix, then you can express ackermann, is the point < 1369677424 265830 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm perfectly happy to clarify the line in the Exanoke docs but to do so it would really help to know... if/how/how not Exanoke is "higher-order primitive recursive". because it is, sorta, but i suspect, not in the way that the paragraph in wp is describing it < 1369677431 827014 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so perhaps it's best to say that adding higher-order functions gives you "structural recursion", but not strict "primitive recursion" < 1369677448 832399 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :test case < 1369677457 951462 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you write that defn on the wp page, in Exanoke < 1369677471 324686 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think you can even return functions can you? < 1369677475 98085 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or take them as arguments < 1369677526 651880 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :structural recursion with higher-order functions is nicer than primitive recursion anyway :P < 1369677529 583731 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :man, i don't remember. i'm semi-retired now. i don't do esolangs, mostly i just make furry fanart < 1369677534 17099 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so no worries if you can imo < 1369677547 171424 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it porn < 1369677548 488218 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote man, i don't remember. i'm semi-retired now. i don't do esolangs, mostly i just make furry fanart < 1369677555 161022 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1040) man, i don't remember. i'm semi-retired now. i don't do esolangs, mostly i just make furry fanart < 1369677641 833472 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Higher-order functions are not used." < 1369677651 69860 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, um < 1369677675 258632 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :afaik nothing says you can't make furry fanart using higher-order functions < 1369677715 457714 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you really really want me to be specific about excluding higher-order functions in that statement, even though higher-order functions aren't being used in the language at all, ... fine, but i get to call you visit your grave after you're dead and spraypaint "BLOODY PEDANT, REALLY" on it < 1369677749 613795 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sigh < 1369677757 322411 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, anthracite is what's added in your Dwarf Fortress mod, right? < 1369677759 598560 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/call you// < 1369677765 604231 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have a gravedancing party planned for when elliott dies, cpressey < 1369677768 385274 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you wanna rsvp? < 1369677837 872656 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also is it porn or not this is important < 1369677849 300134 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: child porn < 1369677855 276483 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION goes to read conversation < 1369677863 816329 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1369677878 330548 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gross < 1369677880 44330 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i'd love to but presumably i will actually be too engrossed in sketching one of the characters from Star Fox, at the time < 1369677888 909403 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: anyway i am confused as to what you are saying < 1369677898 114671 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: I was responding to < 1369677898 944483 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Limited support for higher-order functions could be added, possibly even to Exanoke (as long as the "no mutual recursion" rule is still observed.) After all (and if you'll forgive the anthropomorphizing self-insertion in this sentence), if you pass me a primitive recursive function, and I'm primitive recursive, I'll remain primitive recursive no matter how many times I call your function. < 1369677920 590221 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, well, that's maybe different. but it IS speculation. so < 1369677923 456881 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which seemed to be saying that adding higher-order functions to exanoke would not allow you to write any "more" functions than the strict primitive recursion it presumably does now < 1369677931 754809 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I was saying, I think you are wrong, depending on what you mean by that < 1369678025 986926 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: anyway I think you are not the first person who will be spraypainting that on my grave < 1369678035 194100 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it becomes woefully unclear because there are, pretty clearly, "first-order primitive recursive functions", the properties of which i'm fairly familiar, and "higher-order primitive recursive functions", the properties of which i'm not at all familiar with (but presumably they're not as powerful as general recursive functions. unless they are.) < 1369678126 310085 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they aren't < 1369678181 248903 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it known where they be < 1369678184 20380 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369678268 504745 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure < 1369678270 113138 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1369678293 578009 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can express pretty much anything you'd want to with sufficiently powerful structural recursion, at least < 1369678303 575489 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also... my sentence doesn't say anything about returning functions -- granted it does say "higher-order" but it could say "functions as (almost) first-class objects (you can pass them but not create new ones)" instead < 1369678319 739750 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be great if there was a name for that < 1369678319 811226 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :right that's why it depends on what you meant by that :P < 1369678340 708843 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but, erm, you could make Iter into a three-argument function < 1369678345 658393 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and Ack into a two-argument function < 1369678355 178110 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I think it'd still be definable and structural by Exanoke's definition, I think? < 1369678358 482904 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe not < 1369678401 503392 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just to go back to the point, "HO PR" might be relatable to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grzegorczyk_hierarchy or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fast-growing_hierarchy maybe < 1369678441 765322 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you for bringing it up. if i feel like fixing it, i will. < 1369678591 428374 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i really do suspect though, if you can't make new functions (but you can pass them), it's still FO PR (proof sketch: replace every defined function with a code integer, and replace every call to a passed-in function with a switch statement) < 1369678612 603683 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably someone has analysed the exact computational power of martin-lof type theory or whatever < 1369678613 253076 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@199.185.88.147 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1369678641 316621 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: yes, I suspect you're right < 1369679062 32742 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1369679065 387876 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i try to look for anything martin-lof in complexity theory i get mostly stuff about martin-lof randomness. i think that's a very different thing. < 1369679109 458006 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IS THIS ONE OF THOSE LAMBDA CUBE DEALIES < 1369679215 584852 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote FOUR ROTATIONS < 1369679217 807670 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1369679222 129085 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote FOUR < 1369679223 999403 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :356) meanwhile, I've been running a program for over 24 hours (getting close to 48 now) which is calculating digits of pi, in binary so far, it has found four digits I hope it will find the fifth some time this week \ 641) Dinner? At two? It's four here already. See, UTC+2. You need to add < 1369679238 545448 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo is case insensitive??? < 1369679259 791362 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or, probably worse, my mind's abysmally bad today.) < 1369679282 188051 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: martin-lof is actually gene ray < 1369679396 553920 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1369679754 354822 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone is asking me for a refund for something I don't sell. < 1369679835 752342 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like the setup for a Marx brothers joke < 1369679855 996474 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I found "Expressing computational complexity in constructive type theory". which is irrelevant to cpressey's question but I am probably going to read it anyway. < 1369679868 518658 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote rotation < 1369679870 212580 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :899) FOUR SIMULTANEOUS TYPE SYSTEMS IN A SINGLE ROTATION OF THE LAMBDA CUBE < 1369679882 69984 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: thanks! < 1369679898 88663 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ii am the overlord < 1369679903 972820 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel reassured now. or maybe not. the idea of a lambdaïzed cube scares me. < 1369679904 274662 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@199.185.88.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369679936 504444 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yesterday i was reading about racist ccubes. < 1369679938 395583 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty harrowing < 1369680155 725476 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: that might be good. i was interested in this for a while maybe 5 or 6 months ago. i don't actually think a whole lot is known (or cared about) for complexity classes between PR (FO primitive recursive) and R (general recursive). but in a pinch, you can always just make one up, and figure out what it's equal to later. clearly PR < HOPR < R < 1369680195 878480 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure where System F and martin-lof (is that the same as LF?) stand wrt each other < 1369680234 866480 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :PR is freakin' huge in practical terms anyway, it seems kind of weird to care < 1369680241 49007 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :LF as in the Twelf thing? < 1369680246 690413 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey, is cat's eye, in fact, turing-complete? < 1369680258 125434 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i think so yeah < 1369680275 718735 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that uses a dependently-typed lambda calculus but not the exact same one as Martin-Lof I think < 1369680299 827685 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: well... I don't think "cat's eye" is a language, so... type error. < 1369680309 968392 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just meant your "standard" dependently lambda calculus/constructive type theory with data types in general < 1369680314 321902 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*typed < 1369680326 910399 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :.tc TLD should only be for turing-complete programming languages < 1369680330 577833 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: they all have little fiddly differences that make them just barely different from each other don't they < 1369680336 531626 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruby.tc java.tc brainfuck.tc < 1369680341 912133 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No c.tc though < 1369680346 969826 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: everyone loves fiddly differences < 1369680353 201525 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: it's a nice NIH barrier! < 1369680365 964343 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise people would conflate your thing with something worse. < 1369680394 469099 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :something far more worse < 1369680443 198645 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Turks and Caicos Islands huh < 1369680485 270791 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Cat%27s_Eye.jpg accurate < 1369680510 616543 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"accurate" come again? < 1369680518 644876 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1369680559 908770 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that what cpressey's place of business looks like? < 1369680571 33327 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1369680653 552115 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Phantom_Hoover, anthracite is what's added in your Dwarf Fortress mod, right? < 1369680654 301334 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1369680662 260997 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno if it's still necessary tbh < 1369680672 585093 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that. yes, when i'm not drawing furry fanart, i spend my days chasing these three mysterious art thieves. despite all my efforts i have no clue who they might be. well, i think i'll go for a coffee < 1369680697 67511 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hola < 1369680821 818196 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i on't see cpressey on fur affinity. this is bullshit < 1369680873 786474 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1369680877 410085 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: maybe on vclart? < 1369680941 601042 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-17-215.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1369680986 209015 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-17-215.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1369680986 280285 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1369680989 186673 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://us.vclart.net/vcl/cgi-bin/search.cgi?query=cpressey&page=1 well you heard the search. < 1369681006 649831 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gotta find a furry artist and get them to draw cpressey. unfortunately the only furry artist i'm aware of is cpressey. < 1369681070 714732 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah no self-portraits, it's part of The Oath i'm afraid < 1369681087 403273 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's taht < 1369681096 977458 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could get a self-portrait from monqy < 1369681116 898263 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :get the AROS guy to draw cpressey < 1369681118 444376 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is mnoqy a furry artist? that's right elliott. no < 1369681138 380642 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you know < 1369681358 206872 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :all kinds of oaths float around this channel. is there any cabal I should know about? < 1369681394 240310 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.113 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369681435 959450 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i think, by definition of "cabal", no. < 1369681464 58227 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh. oh well. < 1369681526 517076 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't remember nearly as much underlining and bolding and colours from last time i was here. either my client has improved or people are doing it more freely < 1369681594 239363 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I.. um... *may* have been pressing random keys. purely for research purposes, mind you. < 1369681607 212757 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, no reply to email. they probably wrote me off as insane. or they file anything >1 page w/o a "tl;dr" into their "bastard why do they think i have the time to READ email" folder < 1369681607 927573 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: colour/bold/etc. used to be disabled here! < 1369681611 402652 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but justice prevailed < 1369681615 671428 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1369681625 301832 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome cpressey < 1369681626 869178 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :here it only renders as reverse video, but metasepia reports: «\STX\ETX\GS\SI\DC2\USmeh. oh well.» < 1369681627 638263 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :now we have things like this < 1369681628 599536 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​0712cpressey: 07Wel08come to 08t03he in13ternati05onal hu03b for13 es12oteric program13ming l09a11nguage de07s06i09gn and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki07: http://esol08a06ngs.org/wiki/Main_Pag09e.09 (For09 the o13t10her04 ki07nd of esote05ric09a, try #e12soteric on irc.dal10.net.) < 1369681667 232173 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"deployment" < 1369681684 54002 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: < 1369681685 255857 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so who's on-call this week? < 1369681692 527259 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot is an esoteric language deployment < 1369681692 773850 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: is the gate key okay!! get' em! 200g per night. care to stay with these humans! you're a traitor! you're not our king! but, we are far outnumbered! < 1369681700 574167 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thx fungot < 1369681700 681843 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i see. you know, i really care... a time portal? what in the...! ozzie's stumped! < 1369681741 936079 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1369681797 359453 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369681996 234778 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, do you know anything about this higher-order-primitive-recursive-functions-are-more-better-than-first-order-primitive-recursive-functions-but-they're-still-primitive-recursive business? < 1369682058 938990 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i'm losing you at the but part < 1369682101 90721 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :except maybe they're still _total_ < 1369682151 921269 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the thing is, you can easily write ackermann as a "primitive recursive" curried function < 1369682162 457268 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're definitely total. they're "still defined primitive recursively" < 1369682172 126324 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, that. i guess. < 1369682186 376735 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just need scare quotes around "primitive recursive" < 1369682226 772412 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it kind of seems like there are two (closely related) meanings for "primitive recursive" < 1369682226 917730 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one, how you define a function; two, FO functions defined that way < 1369682261 579158 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :math does need more scare quotes though, so ima go with that < 1369682300 168368 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«««primitive» «recursive»» «function»» < 1369682325 181748 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i [tried to] read a book on higher-order category theory a few months ago, there was much handwaving, much admitting of handwaving too; it was highly enjoyable < 1369682342 886200 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: ». < 1369682353 455207 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you enjoyed it at a higher order? < 1369682394 603371 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: nope < 1369682403 999281 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i'm pretty sure he matched correctly. < 1369682413 935637 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should get around to properly reading a book on (non-higher) category theory < 1369682428 480697 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lower category theory. < 1369682452 703168 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :vernacular category theory < 1369682507 972067 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1369682552 343660 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes! i remember now, "Higher Operads, Higher Categories" < 1369682593 692887 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :category theory in the sewers: it's all like going through pipes < 1369682629 242535 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there has got to be something esolang-worthy in the world of operads, btw. READ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Associahedron < 1369682671 17506 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cute < 1369682679 640995 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i tooked your expr and turned it into a solid < 1369682702 514717 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that's about as far as my mind can process it < 1369682880 129506 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric : elliott: yes, everything in Canada is named after something in either England or France <-- no, some are named after somethings in belgium hth < 1369682948 835441 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waterloo < 1369682961 567955 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can confirm < 1369682963 35795 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I live there < 1369682974 584032 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :also some things are named after native words < 1369682977 412554 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've been there. one of the three, anyway. < 1369682978 637518 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :like montreal < 1369683091 831673 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Montréal is a nice city. it is strangely warm today. < 1369683094 834683 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar CYUL < 1369683095 739074 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 271904Z 25012G19KT 15SM SKC 19/02 A3010 RMK WSHFT 1857 SC TR SLP193 DENSITY ALT 400FT < 1369683153 345638 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar YKF < 1369683153 707279 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- Station not found! < 1369683154 143614 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the 15SM is beautiful today < 1369683161 619810 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are also montréals in france hth < 1369683179 230142 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ah? < 1369683183 404261 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"composition [of the ω-category ChCx]: more or less as expected, but some choices are involved. For instance, if you try to write down the composite of two chain homotopies then you will find that there are two equally reasonable ways of doing it: one ‘left-handed’, one ‘right-handed’. This is something like choosing the parametrization when deciding how to compose two loops in a space (usual choice: do everything at double speed). Somehow the < 1369683198 525153 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar CYKF < 1369683199 207167 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYKF 271900Z AUTO VRB02KT 9SM CLR 20/01 A3019 RMK SLP225 DENSITY ALT 1500FT < 1369683228 653788 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: how much do you weight? < 1369683230 272210 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Somehow the" < 1369683331 423777 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: the SKC is more important. we just spent a very humid weekend, and my shoe decided that it would be a good occasion to sponge in water. < 1369683419 538544 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@199.185.88.147 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1369683442 927778 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1369683802 269313 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@199.185.88.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369683871 856977 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: there are other good ones in there but i'm having a hard time finding them. my problem with category theory is that whenever i read the word "pullback" i can feel a part of my brain browning out < 1369683912 531034 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need to get your brain to push out instead hth < 1369683914 205165 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1369683923 348552 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan was saying it got cut off at "Somehow the" < 1369683934 462107 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :snap < 1369683948 126211 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Somehow the fact that there is no canonical choice means that the resulting ω-category is bound to be weak. In a reasonable world there ought to be a weak ω-functor Chains : Top -> ChCx." < 1369683979 200161 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we all know we aren't living in a reasonable world < 1369683987 474373 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like it when mathematics does unreasonable things < 1369683997 593702 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that could be why the section ends right after that sentence < 1369684076 724986 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"oh, this is too silly. better just stop writing this here, math is silly" < 1369684143 220022 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1369684161 857311 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a category with a single object is a monoid. that much is easy. what i strongly suspect, but have not yet seen real evidence for, is that that's where the word "monoid" comes from. < 1369684191 659979 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1369684195 749062 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cuz, you know, ... one. thing. < 1369684203 138647 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: http://math.stackexchange.com/questions/156952/why-the-terminology-monoid < 1369684210 472100 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@199.185.88.147 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1369684220 187822 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1369684228 476614 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm... pretty sure monoids predate category theory? < 1369684232 35232 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Client Quit < 1369684255 804205 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway: http://egtheory.wordpress.com/2013/05/14/curse-of-computing/ does this reek of oldman-itis to anybody < 1369684299 923830 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wp's monoid article has a 1951 reference fwiw < 1369684309 341308 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't CT technically from the 40s < 1369684339 59791 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :predate anybody caring about category theory* < 1369684375 366979 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh, i'm going to be wondering about the damned etymology now, though < 1369684449 144895 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mathematicians are so bad at tracking historical development sometimes < 1369684612 57798 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-181-4.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1369684628 573971 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric : also, no reply to email. they probably wrote me off as insane. or they file anything >1 page w/o a "tl;dr" into their "bastard why do they think i have the time to READ email" folder <-- you shouldn't have titled it GREAT INTERVIEW OFFER hth < 1369684701 118092 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-181-4.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just figured out why I was constantly using 4 times 100% CPU < 1369684731 20834 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-181-4.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had those SETI@Home things going < 1369684734 25471 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-181-4.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And had forgotten them < 1369684774 505364 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :four of them? < 1369684805 712890 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-181-4.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1369684814 943373 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-181-4.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe < 1369684817 505949 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-181-4.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know < 1369684818 461129 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :think of all the bitcoins you could have mined instead < 1369684818 549385 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-181-4.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aaaah < 1369684824 424158 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-181-4.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stop asking me these questions! < 1369684831 798014 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://math.stackexchange.com/a/167900 seems somewhat believable < 1369684837 446664 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we could establish and ask taneb@home < 1369684837 710515 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-181-4.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, about 0.00001 if I was really lucky, right? < 1369684856 193992 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well people use mining pools to even out the luck factor < 1369684865 621957 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah, you're not going to get a worthwhile amount with CPUs < 1369684909 646661 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-181-4.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, hopefully this also solves the mystery of "why does Minecraft keep crashing" < 1369684931 309115 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@199.185.88.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369685052 807780 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there people who make a good amount of bitcoins without having mining capability? < 1369685057 181727 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :right now the reward for mining a block is about $6,400 < 1369685066 404412 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and this is a very rare event < 1369685079 75693 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean your odds of being the one to win this lottery are very low < 1369685093 528133 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: sure, you can just put $10k in with an exchange < 1369685098 716474 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :most people would rather have a steady stream of money instead of a bunch of lottery tickets, hence mining pools < 1369685102 20828 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i don't understand the question < 1369685105 27625 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok well < 1369685113 937439 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean by like, selling things to miners < 1369685119 707393 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :things that aren't currency < 1369685128 279832 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :by selling drugs to people who want to buy drugs... < 1369685133 476482 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1369685150 745594 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or selling web hosting services to spammers < 1369685159 445044 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lots of businesses accept bitcoin now < 1369685165 679650 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the sushi restaurant I ate at yesterday accepts bitcoin < 1369685179 447202 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume they convert it back to USD ASAP, and so don't have large holdings < 1369685210 566800 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :MtGox has huge holdings of bitcoins because people leave their coins in their MtGox account < 1369685230 713662 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does mtgox act as like, a bank? you know, offering loans and stuff < 1369685236 968900 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think they offer loans < 1369685247 883844 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I don't know how big their holdings are actually < 1369685260 691878 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kind of hard to do loans with bitcoin i think < 1369685261 5371 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps people don't leave their money in MtGox anymore for fear of it being haxed < 1369685266 562087 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but probably not, because people are stupid < 1369685266 936164 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :without the ability to beat people up < 1369685286 800245 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah and without the ability to distribute reputation information < 1369685305 974552 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :loans are pretty important to an economy... < 1369685306 402248 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still wish that the proof-of-work was useful ala Folding@Home < 1369685324 777759 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean presumably a real bank that does all the usual meatspace verification could choose to give you btc instead of whatever other currency for your loan < 1369685331 96331 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you can't just like make a website that gives loans to anyone < 1369685337 884214 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: yeah < 1369685350 326687 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did that proof-of-work anti-spam thing ever catch on < 1369685378 299836 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :considering that most of the nonspam email i receive is automated i guess it wouldn't help me anyway < 1369685387 624938 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: nah it still helps < 1369685399 856712 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :spammers send a vastly larger quantity of mail < 1369685413 264139 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :larger than the automated services? < 1369685420 829213 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if a business wants to send you automated mail, they should be willing to pay the proof of work cost < 1369685424 320603 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1369685428 256635 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1369685436 473512 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the real problem is that spammers have a very low cost of compute power because it's all stolen < 1369685470 645310 :elieser224!~elieser22@190.121.239.17 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369685477 5501 :elieser224!~elieser22@190.121.239.17 PART :#esoteric < 1369685497 157520 :rapido!~rapido@37-251-35-26.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1369685515 64951 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.trustwave.com/support/labs/spam_statistics.asp says that spam is 75% of total inbound email < 1369685561 697279 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so all the legit automated services in the world combined have less than 1/3 as much volume < 1369685576 855029 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and presumably you're on a greater fraction of spam lists than fraction of legit automated services < 1369685578 442906 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1369685621 972523 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe in order to have loans, you need a system where creating a new 'identity' is expensive < 1369685628 275975 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :unlike btc where it's very cheap < 1369685701 229418 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1369685703 15322 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the fee for creating new identities can go toward paying the creditors of defaulted loans elsewhere in the system < 1369685745 788404 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure this makes any sense though < 1369685757 108083 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because if you have the money for the fee you wouldn't need to enter the loan system in the first place < 1369685773 460472 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems like it'd be hard to coordinate anyway. < 1369685849 49033 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1369685861 545946 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if we're taking about a purely computational expense to create new identities, then people will still 'mine' those and take loans and default on them, as a cheaper way of mining BTC < 1369685875 511112 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or else if they are more expensive than the BTC you can borrow with them, there's no point < 1369685894 462325 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you need something that costs more than currency that costs less than currency < 1369685955 913533 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1369686060 482682 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the real world it might be cheaper to start a new life with a new identity rather than pay off your debts < 1369686071 377063 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if you had identities that worked, how would you enforce loans? without a government what'd be the penalty, banks refusing to loan you money? < 1369686074 271078 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but people don't because a) it's illegal, b) they have roots and a life < 1369686079 870165 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :except people do < 1369686085 929421 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rarely < 1369686094 803683 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, rarely < 1369686111 21906 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :rare compared to the number of people in crippling debt < 1369686113 582087 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the point being that the opportunity cost of faking your death and moving is usually pretty high < 1369686117 101115 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1369686119 609220 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think actually killing yourself to get out is much more common than faking your death < 1369686138 390098 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are we talking about bitcoin < 1369686143 578251 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorta < 1369686144 393232 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also c) there's a legal bankruptcy system < 1369686145 747676 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone want a meanwhile in /r/bitcoin < 1369686149 182002 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: yes plz < 1369686152 691136 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm wondering how a working BTC economy could actually function < 1369686154 695913 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yeah go for it < 1369686169 937478 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunately the primary source for this is probably ancap economics and, wow, like hell am i reading that < 1369686182 118152 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you can have collateralized loans < 1369686183 665095 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pawn shop style < 1369686191 760603 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but what collateral assets can be transferred electronically < 1369686203 359128 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :WoW accounts < 1369686203 781151 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Identities? < 1369686220 876114 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i pawned my level 60 paladin to buy crack with bitcoins < 1369686222 903485 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"sure, i'll give you a loan, but imma need your private key for a bit" < 1369686275 125611 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this idea of pawning your identity for quick cash is getting into heavy cyberpunk dystopia territory, which means it will probably happen in about 15 years < 1369686301 27733 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: do you know about the secondary market in pawn tickets < 1369686306 875718 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1369686319 702381 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've never actually used a pawn shop < 1369686319 957914 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've seen this advertised on signs in da ghetto < 1369686331 840995 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is a pawn ticket like, the thing you get from the pawn shop to prove that the collateral is yours < 1369686335 664466 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1369686346 343524 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :MEANWHILE IN /R/BITCOIN: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1f3qxd/mozilla_is_one_of_the_most_important_opensource/ (fuck it, i can't find anything better and i'm bored already) < 1369686352 328599 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you like... why would you sell that < 1369686353 831517 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you deposit an item and get cash and a ticket < 1369686358 438582 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you come back with the cash, you get the item back < 1369686359 16795 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would you buy that, rather < 1369686385 742674 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the owner of the pawn ticket doesn't have the capital to get the item back, but you do < 1369686390 42021 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: hm, i see that it's better for you to choose when to post a meanwhie (because this is boring) < 1369686403 206932 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you can get the item and sell it outright, back to the pawn shop for more money than the value of the loan you just repaid < 1369686406 622330 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: oh, so it's still a net loss for the seller < 1369686415 987982 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the pawner you mean? < 1369686419 246256 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1369686424 68182 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the seller of the pawn ticket. < 1369686435 374226 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i actually only think to check when someone mentions bitcoin, my mistake here was committing before i'd found anything) < 1369686436 657340 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1369686449 404990 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's depressing but sensible < 1369686460 302486 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably for this secondary market to exist, the cash the pawner gets from the loan + selling the ticket is less than they would get for selling the item outright < 1369686472 72702 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they get it in two pieces < 1369686477 542294 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :either that or irrational actors < 1369686483 47161 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or well both < 1369686488 92706 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're going to fail to repay that loan, you might as well sell the ticket instead of throwing it out < 1369686496 265679 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1369686564 683461 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: re your link: yeah it... smells something like that < 1369686579 600083 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay somebody actually responded < 1369686583 953177 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey i'm not irrational, i act to maximize a utility function and that utility function is MORE CRACK NOW < 1369686614 27747 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can see their point but on the other hand the four color theorem is a hell of an achievement and also it makes work for computer scientists < 1369686624 974891 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :did weak goldbach's conjecture recently get proved or something? < 1369686625 928790 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for a long time EFF didn't accept bitcoin because they didn't want to endorse it as safe or a good idea < 1369686639 735082 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they do now < 1369686643 226401 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i still haven't read A=B because i'm incompetent but they rationalized empirical proofs for simple algebraic identities (like, it works for n=1,2,3,4, it must be true) < 1369686646 232471 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's hilarious/awesome < 1369686647 155029 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they do accept, they don't endorse I mean < 1369686663 242340 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :reading comprehension fail on my part, yes it did < 1369686687 602545 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/GirlsGoneBitcoin nsfw, also wtf < 1369686690 684135 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm still waiting to hear back about the supposedly incomprehensible abc conjecture proof, sounds fun < 1369686718 116876 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: ted nelson says the guy who did that proof made bitcoin [TOPIC SEGUE MESSAGE] < 1369686719 113309 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Basically, post your naughty bits and get tipped in a digital currency." < 1369686733 719035 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: this isn't even hot < 1369686741 945674 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :So there is native Portal for Linux now, just a beta, but still. This might be old news, I don't open Steam very often < 1369686753 202098 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.113 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1369686755 568070 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: "he's japanese and good at math. basically musta been him" < 1369686783 642782 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, oh christ, that < 1369686793 701933 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like the tacit assumption that he's japanese based on a name being acknowledged as a pseudonym < 1369686821 517444 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"japanese people have japanese pseudonyms. stands to reason" < 1369686863 752933 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw is [TOPIC SEGUE MESSAGE] an astral plane unicode character, because it should be < 1369686910 225208 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Welcome to leChateau deCrypto a cooperative of women dedicated to providing a safe and exploratory atmosphere for bitcoins, sex positivism, cryptography, and of course rock'n'roll." < 1369686914 229138 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :welp < 1369686918 420691 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"inter-universal Teichmüller theory" i can't math < 1369686937 919186 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever, the papers look to be in english. time to die < 1369686956 725373 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Strange thing is that I own portal on steam yet it is not listed in the account history. Not sure how that works. I have no idea how I got it, but I had it for a while. < 1369686980 830777 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh my god every other word is italicized help < 1369687031 211224 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369687074 257380 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :For some reason Steam's "grant access to this browser" confirmation emails always take quite a while to arrive. < 1369687092 732505 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Unlike many mathematical papers, which are devoted to verifying properties of mathematical objects that are either well-known or easily constructed from well-known mathematical objects, in the present series of papers, most of our efforts will be devoted to constructing new mathematical objects." < 1369687120 325518 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so there's 450 pages here of constructing these things before he shows what you do with them. awesome < 1369687124 174047 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: they may be being graylisted < 1369687181 976144 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-181-4.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, just got an image of a person in a musty office wearing a brown suit playing with Lego < 1369687219 474142 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :where do they even sell those suits? nobody knows. they just grow out of their shoulders < 1369687219 563028 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: are you talking about abc < 1369687226 275621 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are Bejeweled and Alchemy Java applet games or Flash games? < 1369687238 610084 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: yeah i'm looking at mochizuki's papers because lol < 1369687243 891876 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :java applet games? what is this, 1996? < 1369687258 175178 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, the game I wanted to play could have been made around then, sure < 1369687260 78359 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's called an applet because it's a smaller apple < 1369687282 449479 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :2001. < 1369687290 380311 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.popcap.com/games/alchemy/online < 1369687309 296662 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :considering i'm not even familiar with elliptic curves this is all kinds of pointless, but hey #yolo < 1369687318 593884 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shouldn't finding this out for yourself be easy < 1369687351 25950 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i went to a Microsoft Store in a mall today and it looked very suspiciously exactly like an Apple store < 1369687357 405091 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1369687358 263438 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should read something i'm more familiar with, like ethnogenesis in thailand < 1369687369 126177 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-181-4.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, you know where I went today? < 1369687375 112793 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-181-4.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :PRETTY MUCH NOWHERE < 1369687375 290752 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :space? < 1369687376 991350 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1369687557 619151 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Today? I went to a great number of places. < 1369687580 439872 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like one meter to the left of here. Quite an interesting place that was. < 1369687586 506997 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: There are not really any servers on the trip here that would graylist them, unless it's happening on Valve's side. < 1369687614 633982 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, they always arrive instantly to my gmail for me < 1369687628 317261 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well near instant < 1369687631 512180 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like 5-10 seconds < 1369687717 558736 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/XQJc -- if the timestamps are accurate, there's a three-minute delay between the first SMTP server at Valve getting it, and my server getting it. Dunno why. < 1369688053 831825 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@199.185.88.147 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1369688175 224336 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.143.211 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369688191 519551 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a version of APL for hardware programming? < 1369688194 546046 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i still haven't fully read that article but: if you ask me: if you complain in the same breath about 4CMT and "numerical results" up to 10 grillion you have probably missed a step in your own "proof" about how computers are stupid < 1369688217 842608 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean? < 1369688260 553144 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the computer proof of the 4CMT is perfectly valid, if ugly. < 1369688272 217237 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh,, the point isn't validity < 1369688287 118366 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just that proofs like that don't encourage as much math < 1369688314 723656 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-181-4.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone said I think of the Four Colour Theorem, that: < 1369688318 596756 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"encouraging math" whatever that means is not my idea of the purpose of a proof < 1369688328 323622 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's your idea? < 1369688329 707564 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-181-4.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I guess this proof mostly proves that the problem wasn't that interesting" < 1369688339 518326 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a coq proof of the four-colour theorem < 1369688383 987913 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i don't know, but it's not "encouraging math" < 1369688385 230471 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.143.211 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1369688421 971912 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :all ugly proofs encourage searches for less ugly proofs, mathematicians are just *like* that < 1369688467 134069 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a proof can build on another proof no matter how ugly the other proof is < 1369688689 534439 :rapido!~rapido@37-251-35-26.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl QUIT :Quit: rapido < 1369688691 668682 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the comments on empiricism are essentially misguided < 1369688731 159890 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean only a handful of people have ever read the full proof of fermat's last theorem; you're essentially relying on the empirical observation that they know what they're doing < 1369688832 683119 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: why do you care how much I weight? < 1369688856 397355 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :any simple, interesting problem that's still unsolved is probably going to have a hideous proof anyway < 1369688873 223017 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's an interesting 'probably' < 1369688940 754539 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the post covers your problem though, "But this is not unique to computer assisted proofs, most modern mathematical proofs are so extensive that many of them are not surveyable from first principles" < 1369688986 810504 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :computer assisted proofs are obviously more trustable than large human-written proofs < 1369688996 156854 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :given proper publishing of the source code etc. < 1369689010 24531 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if they don't use a proof assistant < 1369689019 982779 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone who thinks otherwise is... well, just crazy < 1369689025 446366 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the point really isn't validity (thankfully) < 1369689030 445045 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(because, yeah) < 1369689092 72595 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i admit i didn't really read context past Phantom_Hoover's line because i am too cool < 1369689109 643387 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are pretty cool, admittedly < 1369689112 516903 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 QUIT :Quit: Nt < 1369689144 175546 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-181-4.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I once played a cool guy in a play < 1369689200 217862 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was once a cool guy < 1369689268 857285 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: statistics. < 1369689331 93757 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: one epsilon < 1369689589 677203 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: you are being very elliotty, here. < 1369689856 861000 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty sure elliott weighs less than an epsilon < 1369689882 890914 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the joke is that elliott is made of toothpicks and tissue paper) < 1369689887 557290 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1369690032 968543 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369690686 414620 :elieser224!~elieser22@190.121.239.17 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369691037 42000 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can any value ever be less than an epsilon AHHHHH BRAIN BREAKING < 1369691109 501206 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-181-4.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...it could be zero or negative? < 1369691133 398164 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheating < 1369691138 41082 :elieser2241!~elieser22@190.121.239.15 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369691177 300873 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's been a while since i cared about surreals but isn't there epsilon² and such there < 1369691208 218844 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also my brain breaks on the slightest confusingish thing now that i'm OLD so don't put a lot of weight on that part < 1369691221 361106 :elieser224!~elieser22@190.121.239.17 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1369691230 414499 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :haven't you always been old < 1369691254 318932 :elieser2241!~elieser22@190.121.239.15 PART :#esoteric < 1369691255 254815 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-181-4.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, you may be thinking of oerjan < 1369691257 98895 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see what you did there < 1369691263 773855 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless i'm just imagining it < 1369691269 982048 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-181-4.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But indeed, Befunge is about two years older than you, elliott < 1369691290 606143 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did I do < 1369691352 660501 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : it's been a while since i cared about surreals but isn't there epsilon and such there < 1369691365 606009 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can square epsilon normally < 1369691386 646527 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but it's distinct or something < 1369691391 774746 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I dunno" < 1369691662 312968 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i assume you were trying to break my brain < 1369691703 47638 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :aren't hyperreals big enough? < 1369691704 463919 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh! oh! got an email response back < 1369691708 825494 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hi oklopol < 1369691712 3417 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloes < 1369691718 821127 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: oh. i'm not that clever < 1369691738 523051 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"A chat on #esoteric works for me." < 1369691745 883307 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha shit < 1369691746 333203 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-181-4.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1369691748 352467 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i need a drink < 1369691758 25161 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you've really fucked up now cpressey!! < 1369691791 589002 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok so the important question is what to set the topic to < 1369691800 330335 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about "As seen in the Wall Street Journal!" < 1369691806 12150 :rapido!~rapido@37-251-35-26.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1369691841 820970 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-181-4.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, how about something actually to do with esolangs for a change < 1369691855 584109 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: hahahahahahahahahaha < 1369691864 922626 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but seriously < 1369691921 168782 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: keep me updated re: when it is happening, I would like to make arrangements to be awake at the time < 1369691943 329323 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-181-4.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ditto < 1369691947 137205 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please make arrangements for me to be asleep when it is happening. < 1369691959 590175 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will probably be at work :( < 1369691977 944313 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :scheduling this predictably is going to be difficult but i'll let you know < 1369691978 519705 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, wait < 1369691984 583874 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the wsj guy is actually coming here? < 1369692042 886645 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have no idea how i am going to stop myself just laughing and trolling through the whole thing. help < 1369692047 614024 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yes, unless i... tell him not to or something < 1369692056 109523 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i have a severe ailment that physically prevents me from taking this whole thing seriously < 1369692063 869449 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im 10000% excited for this < 1369692067 744823 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :& pumped too < 1369692068 471294 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-181-4.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, we need someone sensible as an op < 1369692074 574331 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-181-4.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone mature < 1369692080 347909 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-181-4.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone Norwegian. < 1369692086 424898 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone like mnoqy. < 1369692086 661889 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-181-4.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone... called oerjan < 1369692091 923428 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i was an op i think i might actually be able to not mess it up < 1369692094 851462 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :too much dang responsibility < 1369692097 822659 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :therefore, clearly op me. < 1369692115 221419 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you *seen* what elliott does when you op him..... < 1369692122 139033 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's dangerous < 1369692129 361968 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-181-4.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Remember when I was op for a bit? < 1369692139 825973 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :he'd probably voice the person < 1369692140 993426 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-181-4.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote never comes back < 1369692143 441564 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :990) prediction: kmc never comes back * kmc has joined #esoteric < 1369692150 715962 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, even I was an op in here once! < 1369692165 208894 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie +oed me. < 1369692169 470211 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my experience with shachaf as an op is he deops himself and asks a lot to be an op again < 1369692171 129046 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(+oed is how you learn English.) < 1369692176 252730 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gregor isn't even voiced right now < 1369692178 480406 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have trouble imagining how op powers would interact with this < 1369692182 88651 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: i recommend asking zzo when he's available < 1369692183 598726 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: uh, well deopped me. < 1369692187 725300 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: not me < 1369692187 841845 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh he is here even < 1369692195 637666 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: when are you available < 1369692216 239078 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-181-4.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Goodnight, guys < 1369692217 245934 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-181-4.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1369692294 53136 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. How does /u/WarPhalange still have positive comment karma < 1369692311 514640 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :All Reddit users have positive comment karma. < 1369692327 140273 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :To a first approximation. < 1369692345 962789 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: are we supposed to know who that is < 1369692358 982490 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The reason: You can accumulate a lot of positive karma easily with one comment, but it takes many comments to accumulate a lot of negative karma. < 1369692363 228389 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: he says he'll be looking for some sort of "story" or "hook" for the piece. does this help your "ailment". (it doesn't help mine) < 1369692367 462545 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: no < 1369692381 370271 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy, guy who faked having cancer on Reddit, and is still using that account < 1369692390 211229 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Almost always gets downvoted when seen < 1369692399 29092 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: is your ailment needing a drink < 1369692400 424746 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, and his days are tues, weds, thurs this week. < 1369692424 659314 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: have you seen http://esolangs.org/wiki/From_INTERCAL_to_LOLCODE:_The_Esoteric_Programming_Story < 1369692433 944428 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually i think my ailment is pretty similar to yours. drink is just an ineffective treatment for it < 1369692453 459107 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: briefly. then i practiced a lot of thought-stopping < 1369692461 788101 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: i feel a bit sorry for this guy < 1369692477 969075 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you told him he's not going to get a story out of this < 1369692483 931355 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know that I'm going to take the whole thing very seriously and try to get everyone to behave? < 1369692498 943860 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: um hes going to get The Esoteric Programming Story < 1369692506 925185 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: if you kick me for being stupid while it is going on i will leave forever < 1369692510 233466 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have been warned < 1369692515 40135 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what possible (oh hi ais523 what's this Mouse Friendship thing) story is there except "i went on irc and i forgot how insane those people are" < 1369692530 30100 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not insane! < 1369692536 37530 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is outsane! < 1369692538 694361 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: I either don't know what the Mouse Friendship thing is, or I've foroggetn I know it < 1369692540 413199 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I don't do esolangs. < 1369692542 381225 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, i forgot how insane the banter of those people is < 1369692560 192670 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*add quotes to that < 1369692570 573892 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: hey what fantastic pranks can i do to the wiki in relation to this < 1369692582 302178 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe they've already used the wiki.... we'r famouse < 1369692584 891069 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could CSS it to be upside-down < 1369692592 977612 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lolcode.com is dad < 1369692594 419804 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dead < 1369692596 1133 :rapido!~rapido@37-251-35-26.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl QUIT :Quit: rapido < 1369692599 541057 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh good < 1369692602 669155 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: did you know the CBS show "Elementary" used Malbolge as a plot device? now THERE'S a hook for the story < 1369692609 572803 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lolcode.com is dead and we have killeed it < 1369692612 224937 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact that may even be the reason the WSJ wants to write about esolangs in the first place < 1369692657 998144 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: why is this fact not recorded on its wiki page? < 1369692659 885957 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what made them contact cpressey in particular, though < 1369692672 213134 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: i think i was going to record it after someone came in here to mention it but then i forgot < 1369692673 890464 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey is the true prophet of the esolangology movement < 1369692700 758640 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm I should come up with fun lies in case I get asked any wiki-related questions < 1369692731 117498 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can i like preemptorily apologize to the reporter for the blankness he's going to go through < 1369692734 476148 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ok are you just making stuff up or what the hell are you talking about < 1369692747 467962 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the elementary thing is true < 1369692747 903232 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: also I hope you realise that when the story is about "crazy computer people making stupid languages", everyone taking it seriously will make it a /worse/ story < 1369692755 946460 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: like multiple people came in here because of it < 1369692769 729682 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then my googling found a highly reliable citation in the form of a screencap on tumblr < 1369692773 785201 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I'm not in favour of everyone taking it seriously < 1369692797 456176 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm in favour of exactly one person taking it deathly seriously, in a way that's incongruous with the general atmosphere of the rest of the channel < 1369692811 452752 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's our ais523 < 1369692824 899136 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh I really hope someone asks me to do a favour for them or something in the next few days < 1369692825 462623 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :help i might take it semi-seriously if im here wat do < 1369692833 109636 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I can say "sorry, I have to prepare for being interviewed by the Wall Street Journal" < 1369692849 787144 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: just be yourself. that's all we need < 1369692851 776695 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought cpressey was the one being interviewed. < 1369692853 36802 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I don't know (re Mouse Friendship) it was some surreal exchange with Taneb that I didn't understand, and now I'm apparently your arch-nemesis or something < 1369692867 909388 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey will be too drunk, we will have to fill in for him. < 1369692878 589301 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, I get the feeling the journalist is probably reading the logs right now. < 1369692893 980943 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi journalist < 1369692898 502729 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'll probably be boring < 1369692906 991800 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but talking about it not being boring is funny < 1369692922 373860 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does mouse friendship have anything to do with friendship mouse < 1369692922 775456 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i kind of get the feeling he's not. just a vague feeling, based on how he's approaching this < 1369692930 865066 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: quite possibly < 1369692941 536648 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote friendship .?th < 1369692943 353563 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, my mind transposes things on me all the time < 1369692943 462159 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :489) I keep asking random people for "friendship " and it's crippling < 1369692974 629913 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we should design an esolang in the channel, in front of them < 1369692977 427398 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope lament comes back for the occasion < 1369692982 763025 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we need more things along the lines of Dupdog or Radixal!!!! < 1369692988 50015 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and unbans a bunch of people and kicks everyone it'd be glorious < 1369692999 428031 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"ok listen, what if it's like brainfuck, but based on wsj quotes" < 1369693005 265639 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :proper absurdity requires collective inputs < 1369693015 58634 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, can we kick people for suggesting BF derivatives? < 1369693037 155793 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: can you go on a rant about capitalism/wall street while the guy's there. just suggesting possible roles here < 1369693048 223290 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah sure < 1369693048 800819 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's my role? < 1369693057 787624 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait am i "the dumb anticapitalist guy" < 1369693058 835624 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hope im around for this it sounds thrilling < 1369693060 906658 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess i'm ok with that < 1369693067 323042 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: well, we're all dumb < 1369693073 862153 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yeah but the other part. < 1369693077 587665 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, mnoqy isn't dumb < 1369693079 901114 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: you could go on about bitcoin simultaneously < 1369693099 73815 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin can go on about bitcoin, surely. < 1369693102 51431 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... he mentions Piet and Ook! as "playful" languages which might be more... reader-friendly... to focus on. < 1369693105 258485 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bitcoin communism: an idea whose time has come < 1369693119 951843 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: maybe we can get david morgan-mar < 1369693139 981207 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe we can get urban muller!!! an all-star cast < 1369693164 661718 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.slate.com/content/dam/slate/blogs/moneybox/2013/01/16/wsj_fiscal_cliff_infographic/1358357370309.jpg.CROP.article568-large.jpg "you know what would have made this more accurate, fascist propagandist scum? if you wrote their assets in bitcoin. fuck the gold standard" < 1369693250 365196 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pictures of sad rich people dot tumblr dot com < 1369693267 944307 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: god, I hope I'm not mentioned by name in whatever article comes out of this < 1369693281 311783 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'll be all over hexham < 1369693356 393934 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: change your realname to something plausible but incorrect < 1369693363 102425 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, invent a surname < 1369693366 872430 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and put it after "elliott" < 1369693374 696661 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :my realname doesn't have my real name < 1369693375 906889 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, what if they get the number of ls and ts wrong < 1369693377 72477 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elliott Elliott < 1369693379 407474 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I know < 1369693381 953760 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :IMO < 1369693383 693744 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that might inspire people to look elsewhere < 1369693391 674567 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or call yourself Rex Reynolds < 1369693402 85204 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :good idea < 1369693405 295874 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"administrator of the esolang wiki elliot herd" < 1369693412 280800 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: actually, change back to alise < 1369693430 529117 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elliott de Hexham < 1369693433 180187 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i'll just leave my realname < 1369693444 367888 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it's actually hard to tell that my wiki account is me < 1369693450 284465 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you know my real name already < 1369693454 352562 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :since they just share a first letter < 1369693532 910433 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: that's a good infographic < 1369693545 906250 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1369693572 919074 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :even the people whose taxes aren't being increased are sad < 1369693581 189986 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :conclusion: money makes you sad < 1369693587 922601 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :neat, I just searched "elliott" on the wiki and there were no results < 1369693604 260406 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :truly it's best to be a simple, down to earth retired married couple, making $180k < 1369693636 97066 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, the biggest "problem" i see is that he's not going to find an angle. unless there's some exciting development or discord amongst esolang right now that i haven't seen. < 1369693666 256539 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :money makes people sad because they spend it on dumb things < 1369693667 229196 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am not suggesting we concoct an angle. no, no, no. no. < 1369693684 701941 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: e.g. anything but crack < 1369693695 728885 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: hey, that's not dumb < 1369693731 30919 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are lots of things you could spend money on < 1369693736 787524 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we should hold a BF Joust tournament < 1369693738 285937 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :like 5-MeO-DMT < 1369693765 252203 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: WITH REAL LANCES < 1369693790 738466 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about a befunge-joust tourney1 < 1369693800 464248 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: eh, i guess you maybe haven't heard, i'm in King-Arthur-la-la-land right now (more commonly known as Cornwall) < 1369693801 401970 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: i think the biggest problem is that esolangs aren't news, aren't interesting to almost anyone, cannot be explained to most people, and are boring. < 1369693808 365116 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's just me though < 1369693810 794058 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: hmm < 1369693813 884131 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :or a killer robot war machine joust tourney < 1369693815 310898 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey, wtf, you're in cornwall? < 1369693816 270117 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I'm nearer to you than the hexhamers are < 1369693818 814289 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as usual, I guess < 1369693818 886273 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you met bike? < 1369693824 853251 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone give me your addresses, the tourney starts now < 1369693835 849013 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: yes, I am wtf in Cornwall wtf. < 1369693857 383556 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but no, I haven't met Bike, but i did not get the impression that Bike was in Cornwall. < 1369693865 27536 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should go to cornwall and terrorise everyone (incl. cpressey) < 1369693867 420849 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: Have we met? < 1369693875 598317 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait is Bike actually in cornwall < 1369693876 596049 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a cousin who works in one of the hospitals there, maybe you could injure yourself and meet him < 1369693878 319104 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought he was in washington < 1369693885 403076 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it cornish history week already < 1369693891 482192 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you're getting into the semantics of "met" there < 1369693894 242435 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: how are the 4monuments < 1369693899 27967 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1369693905 113117 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: monumental < 1369693934 626363 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: where are you < 1369693940 634969 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :latvia < 1369693959 85739 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Bike < 1369693959 669590 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i knew a dude from cornwall once < 1369693960 915942 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike is from Luxembourg. < 1369693963 172467 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :he may be a saxophone player now < 1369693964 627567 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cpressey < 1369693966 175920 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1369693974 283066 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was years ago though < 1369694035 821546 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i heard Luxembourg has the bomb is that true < 1369694115 361908 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so many bomb < 1369694168 775288 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :luxembourg is da bomb < 1369694259 76716 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ok, so he comes in here, asks a bunch of reportery questions, and, given what he has to work with... we let nature take its course? probably there will be no publishable result. < 1369694279 271830 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think i could get dmm or urban in here, but i could probably get bem or jeffry < 1369694293 452285 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wonder if anyone will get /msg'd < 1369694315 222724 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: this is the part where i admit i don't know who bem is < 1369694354 556426 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know who any of those people are do i win < 1369694363 226854 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, sorry, I meant Ben Olmstead < 1369694390 338005 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Malbolge, for those of you not keeping score at home < 1369694474 127050 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah ok, I just didn't recognise "bem" < 1369694494 736982 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :who is the reporter? < 1369694724 154476 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was in the WSJ once < 1369694727 593335 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not by name though :( < 1369694766 361661 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://online.wsj.com/public/article/0,,SB111196673261990485-w6Ozd12gsakyASeZZ55yKUJVXAk_20050427,00.html?mod=tff_main_tff_top < 1369694770 621735 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm the 'his friend' < 1369694794 595508 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then Wikicities turned Wikia turned evil. < 1369694833 549111 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow you made wikia? how could you : ( < 1369694836 216750 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :has anyone ever heard the phrase "open-access software" used to describe you know what < 1369694870 924242 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, no, but I started several wikis on Wikia, including what was once the most popular one there < 1369694871 23130 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike i'm not at all sure that i know what... < 1369694882 814868 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, not sure if 'most popular', but certainly well known < 1369694884 943059 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: free software and all < 1369694896 663544 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1369694900 301018 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :who the hell calls it that < 1369694908 742381 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :an anthropologist in this book < 1369694918 369880 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :complete with Old White Guy Scare Quotes < 1369694928 325532 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anthropologists < 1369694931 268193 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :who cares < 1369694944 143030 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mean < 1369694951 71001 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anthropologistologists? < 1369695042 689426 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anthropologists can't even explain Sgeo < 1369695055 18565 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :#esoteric can't even explain sgeo. < 1369695055 161071 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@91-145-118-87.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing here < 1369695075 747389 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :god knows who can explain zzo < 1369695128 181365 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think even god knows that < 1369695186 865768 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, i'm not sure i even want to dwell on that question < 1369695199 108906 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some things are very difficult to explain. < 1369695206 635693 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is just how it is. < 1369695320 622916 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a fine note to retire on < 1369695322 257180 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1369695340 470382 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ON WHICH TO RETIRE you DESCRIPTIVIST FUCK < 1369695357 538850 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1369695361 573626 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :descriptivists are the best < 1369695370 368644 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck prescriptivist scum < 1369695386 967526 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh is this that thing about ending sentences with prepositions < 1369695390 518120 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's even the point of that < 1369695400 832084 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :prescriptivism < 1369695418 963176 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suspect it's the same as the split infinitive rule < 1369695431 786199 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :some latin wankery, you mean? < 1369695439 421440 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. the result of the victorians having trouble getting their heads around the whole latin /= english thing < 1369695749 744049 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I made the Deadfish Z-machine story file even shorter; now it is only 128 bytes long (i.e. 64 bytes other than the header). < 1369695780 830 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :a fine note on which to retire on < 1369695803 512359 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Can there be much of a story in 128 bytes? < 1369695831 527896 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: No, but a Z-machine program file is commonly called a "story file", even though it isn't a story. < 1369695859 372227 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :But aren't Z-machine programs usually text adventure games < 1369695863 540067 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't fit a lot of text in that. < 1369695873 132301 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm guessing it's not even a game. < 1369695882 578117 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, they usually are, but not always. Yes, in this case it is not even a game. < 1369695938 382769 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1369696318 858615 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have used a few tricks to shorten it so that it will fit in 128 bytes. Can you shorten it even more? < 1369696622 211664 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :People who know what the "Deadfish Z-machine story file" is, please raise your hand < 1369696699 675861 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is the assembly codes of it: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Deadfish#Frolg Now you can know what it is, and raise your hand too, especially if you put the keyboard on top of the monitor instead of below. < 1369696809 727791 :comex!~comex@ec2-23-22-255-183.compute-1.amazonaws.com NICK :Iciloo < 1369696811 479662 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does that even count as a programming language < 1369696815 423242 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1369696818 70931 :Iciloo!~comex@ec2-23-22-255-183.compute-1.amazonaws.com NICK :comex < 1369696842 66796 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it can. < 1369696867 165052 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's kind of boring in that it's essentially just a really crappy encoding for a series of numbers. < 1369696873 778159 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Deadfish" thatis < 1369696939 474486 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I think that is all that it is; nevertheless, they were trying to make a programming language, and now it is retarded, and there are many implementations of it anyways, just as much that there are many implementation of Truth-machine and 99 bottles of beer. < 1369696941 64351 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :If that's a programming language, then the output of gzip is < 1369696955 298666 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: Poulet! < 1369696963 165957 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1369697033 16532 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you are correct. < 1369697098 558783 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm there's a thing called Glulx < 1369697146 119159 :nooodl^!~nooodl^@91.179.143.211 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369697151 329220 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.143.211 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1369697192 442094 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, Glulx is another virtual machine for text adventure games, this time 32-bit machine. Deadfish could probably be made in Glulx too if you want to. < 1369697228 294034 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should make a deadfish compiler that compiles it into a .txt file that can be executed with cat < 1369697233 558825 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, do you prefer Z-machine or glulx? < 1369697255 534054 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I prefer the Z-machine. < 1369697265 743806 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any particular reasons < 1369697266 493204 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1369697271 914047 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's old < 1369697286 543977 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :One thing I think Z-machine is better designed in many ways. < 1369697347 265607 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It isn't quite perfect, though; there are a few things I would have done slightly differently.) < 1369697483 410929 :nooodl^!~nooodl^@91.179.143.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, do you know anything about how the free infocom dos versions of zork are implemented? the parser is very interesting < 1369697523 440124 :nooodl^!~nooodl^@91.179.143.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has a huge amount of synonyms but i dont know how to find a list of them < 1369697530 658190 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl^: No, I don't know much about it. < 1369697540 643389 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :To find the list you could try using a disassembler, I suppose. < 1369697565 212103 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could also try looking at the source-codes for the MDL version. < 1369697585 570256 :nooodl^!~nooodl^@91.179.143.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have, theyre different < 1369697615 651480 :nooodl^!~nooodl^@91.179.143.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently theres like a billion versions of zork < 1369697687 957293 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can I play Zork legally for free? < 1369697690 887477 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do have a SQL database containing the headers for all the Infocom games, including all of the versions of Zork, so you could at least see how many different versions, how much RAM they use, etc, even though I don't have all of the data of the files. < 1369697706 250484 :nooodl^!~nooodl^@91.179.143.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes sgeo < 1369697708 146890 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Well, you can play the MDL Zork legally for free, at least. Other than that, I don't know. < 1369697749 83351 :nooodl^!~nooodl^@91.179.143.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the infocom site offers legal free downloads for dos too < 1369697794 538874 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I think I have seen that when someone was trying to download the game; the ".DAT" file should be renamed and then loaded with any Z-machine interpreter. < 1369697850 654984 :nooodl^!~nooodl^@91.179.143.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah its a z5 file in disguise iirc < 1369697882 288816 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :bureaucracy.z4 < 1369697886 781131 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can tell what version by reading the first byte of the file; whatever it is, put 'z' and then that number. < 1369697977 142547 :nooodl^!~nooodl^@91.179.143.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should write a text adventure in haskell once < 1369697980 900714 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just thought of something < 1369697986 112270 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: you're canadian, right? < 1369697991 107029 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: Yes < 1369698018 645562 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl^: Yes, you could do once, either to compile into native code or make a Haskell library for representing and compiling Z-machine story files. < 1369698021 182477 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you had a domain called zzo38.ca, and you inverted the domain (say in a java package name), the inversion would spell ca.zzo38, where cazzo in italian means something vulgar < 1369698027 332714 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, I am very profound < 1369698046 918548 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: Well, that isn't my domain name, so I am not having that problem. < 1369698063 794180 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :just wanted to point it out in case you wanted to get that domain and then make java packages < 1369698065 808532 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :!!! < 1369698070 694955 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1369698091 486650 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: do you have the domain pumpkin.co < 1369698092 180349 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :However I intend to neither get that domain name nor to make Java packages. < 1369698097 483887 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1369698108 717957 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :.co: the tld for categorical duals < 1369698128 324971 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the TLD for Colombia .__. < 1369698136 885614 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if it'd be possible to get a really short domain name < 1369698140 156648 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Without paying ridiculous amounts < 1369698146 407787 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :google translates it as "fuck", "cock", "shit", "fucking", or "dick" < 1369698151 838415 :nooodl^!~nooodl^@91.179.143.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tinyarro.ws < 1369698152 459839 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's "ridiculous"? < 1369698154 848888 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'll pretty much have to be a ccTLD because they're the only two character ones < 1369698166 434942 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :More than I want to pay for my personal use < 1369698186 668147 :nooodl^!~nooodl^@91.179.143.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :has a cheapish four char domain name, thanks unicode. < 1369698195 514743 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :IDNs don't count ¬u¬ < 1369698205 285377 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got a 6 character one < 1369698356 228180 :FreeFull_!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1369698365 618481 :nooodl^!~nooodl^@91.179.143.211 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1369698454 263420 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1369698838 204381 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish it was possible for me to build my own gaming laptop < 1369698917 375013 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I could register .fi names. < 1369698960 207768 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a feeling .fi doesn't even allow names shorter than two anymore < 1369698972 404882 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there was a short time in the beginning of the interwebs when it was allowed so there are *some* < 1369698976 392447 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :That still exist < 1369699108 862024 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, actually you can get two character .fi domains < 1369699140 360665 :comex!~comex@ec2-23-22-255-183.compute-1.amazonaws.com NICK :PrincessKaDenza < 1369699150 670621 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I bet all two character acronyms are trademarked < 1369699164 195060 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: shacha.fi? < 1369699191 421533 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: perhaps