< 1370045691 248615 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db4052f.pool.mediaWays.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1370045724 470622 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1370045724 565512 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1370045731 52880 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1370045735 162707 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric < 1370046157 248829 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db4052f.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1370046217 937136 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1370046702 423321 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if I can get kmc into Rebol... < 1370046736 87333 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there may be some similarities to Kernel... although I don't quite understand bindology well enough < 1370046762 206069 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :('Bindology' being Rebol's fancy term for how binding works) < 1370046878 46665 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.141.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :electrons hth < 1370047463 1152 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.141.209 JOIN :#esoteric < 1370047608 193164 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.141.209 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1370047651 692744 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: Poulet! < 1370048191 500124 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1370048416 22175 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1370048758 188067 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.141.209 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1370049441 220022 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1370049699 306392 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-175-59.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1370050176 252414 :FreeFull_!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1370050261 379037 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1370050418 465049 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :One limitation in SQLite is that extensions cannot add new commands entirely. < 1370050435 250771 :FreeFull_!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover NICK :FreeFull < 1370050562 476463 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it is not such a problem, although it would be nice to be able to create macros. < 1370050968 335647 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone here put their browser cache in /tmp < 1370052364 234981 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1370052394 310096 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1370052947 543352 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:ae81:12ff:fe32:878a QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1370053002 738754 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmm the bfq io scheduler seems nice < 1370053101 812750 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-220-112.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1370053121 249894 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_ < 1370053149 31366 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-170-20.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1370053172 183937 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1370053184 929719 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1370053234 193981 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-220-112.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1370054306 603948 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1370054325 562578 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1370054948 636739 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run main = print $ let 2 + 2 = 5 in 2 + 2 < 1370054953 224495 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: main: command not found < 1370054954 97886 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, oops < 1370055937 275224 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-175-59.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1370055973 994584 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-175-59.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1370056844 4627 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua JOIN :#esoteric < 1370057039 417375 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1370059120 389715 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1370059175 38202 :yiyus_!1242712427@je.je.je JOIN :#esoteric < 1370059196 676410 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let 2 + 2 = 5 in 2 + 2 < 1370059198 3786 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : 5 < 1370059219 775961 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Redefines + < 1370059249 572728 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know < 1370059266 799547 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was checking that my code was correct. Was trying to show that in a Rebol chatroom that has a bot that connects to ideone < 1370059270 262142 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ideone is downish < 1370059271 293637 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let 5 = 2 + 2 in 5 < 1370059272 858279 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : 5 < 1370059284 550369 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or was < 1370059288 971341 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let (+) = (Prelude.+) . succ in 2 + 2 < 1370059290 284242 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : 5 < 1370059345 389660 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, I don't know why that works < 1370059352 513188 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (+) . succ < 1370059353 845775 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Enum b, Num b) => b -> b -> b < 1370059550 781315 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Animation style, alternative to animated GIFs (see sample - works in Internet Explorer with plugin; also see tile-test)" < 1370059578 597343 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, we should all install a REBOL plugin into our browsers to see animated graphics. < 1370059612 44457 :yiyus!1242712427@je.je.je QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1370059794 540311 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: i hugged kmc today "ur next" hth < 1370059821 379917 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Except for the whole part where you don't want hugs? So I guess not.) < 1370059939 472030 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1370060061 57681 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1370060102 348483 :Jafet1!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1370060109 87264 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION looks up Rebol < 1370060120 448182 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is this, like, a Lisp that actually uses M-expressions!? < 1370060166 689410 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what M-expressions were actually like, but I'm going to say probably not < 1370060224 580975 :rntz!~rntz@eos.sp.cs.cmu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1370060243 65691 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1370060265 613682 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1370060273 328265 :rntz!~rntz@128.2.211.214 JOIN :#esoteric < 1370060315 886679 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Precedence for bare-word operators... < 1370060370 275984 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :This looks to be... a language that probably has very messy semantics. < 1370060562 128676 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some things are messy, but I think some things are nice < 1370061153 44296 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that "sgeo wisdom" < 1370061161 803380 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: can I have more "sgeo wisdom" < 1370061410 951386 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :random/only ["yes" "no"] < 1370062164 159495 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (,) . succ $ 1 1 < 1370062165 355456 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : *Exception: show: No overloading for function < 1370062389 55958 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (,) . succ < 1370062390 224328 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Enum b => b -> b1 -> (b, b1) < 1370062465 327007 :TeruFSX2!~TeruFSX@65-128-175-59.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1370062545 644203 :TeruFSX2!~TeruFSX@65-128-175-59.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1370062817 639773 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ((,) . succ $ 1 1) :: (Int, Int) < 1370062818 998106 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `(GHC.Types.Int, GHC.Types.Int)' < 1370062819 233521 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : ... < 1370062851 763422 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, I think I know why it doesn't work >_< < 1370062859 603486 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ((,) . succ) 1 1 < 1370062860 998147 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : (2,1) < 1370062962 828269 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I still don't know haskell < 1370062992 255098 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ((,) (. succ)) 1 1 < 1370062993 682001 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : The function `(,)' is applied to three arguments, < 1370062993 789417 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : but its type `a0 -> b0 -... < 1370063044 131947 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t succ . (+) < 1370063045 274009 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Enum (a -> a), Num a) => a -> a -> a < 1370063152 904440 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, of course that doesn't make sense < 1370063198 255343 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you trying to do exactly < 1370063779 972998 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-112.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1370063953 407585 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing < 1370063960 793523 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> Nothing < 1370063962 204496 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Nothing < 1370063994 35860 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-112.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1370064961 101018 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If no one wrote an irc:// scheme for REBOL, maybe I should < 1370065073 438174 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe < 1370067382 655630 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy hlelo < 1370067468 713213 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi shachaf < 1370068698 465706 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: woow < 1370070143 170015 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-175-59.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1370073728 131788 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1370076719 800386 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.141.209 JOIN :#esoteric < 1370076885 818379 :itsy!~digital_w@84.93.181.157 QUIT :Quit: itsy < 1370078335 177195 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.113 JOIN :#esoteric < 1370078993 984237 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1370079067 332587 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Speaking of high-resolution monitors, Asus has just announced a 31.5" 3840x2160 (aka "4K") computer monitor -- that's 140 dpi, even if it's kind of overly big for many desktops. (Also it's probably going to cost a lot.) < 1370079312 625593 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1370080268 208704 :variable!~root@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1370080497 559103 :variable!~root@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1370080510 198580 :tswett_!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1370080514 584897 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1370080539 35352 :rntz!~rntz@128.2.211.214 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1370080545 217656 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1370080548 455217 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1370080571 808831 :rntz!~rntz@eos.sp.cs.cmu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1370082163 236441 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1370082446 909382 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1370082468 233803 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1370082566 152168 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1370082567 393885 :Frooxius_!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1370085449 887904 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:ae81:12ff:fe32:878a JOIN :#esoteric < 1370085595 249418 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.121 JOIN :#esoteric < 1370086348 118240 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1370089394 271443 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, this spam claiming to be from FedEx has a subject line FedEx!!! < 1370089408 39603 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's as though FedEx is really excited about itself < 1370090544 28864 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1370091213 7477 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :!!!!!! < 1370091577 309057 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db4052f.pool.mediaWays.net QUIT :Quit: hagb4rd < 1370092519 391524 :itsy!~digital_w@84.93.181.157 JOIN :#esoteric < 1370094121 987917 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20130601-electricity-is-fun.png < 1370094549 52263 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :aw. < 1370094731 784476 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's what they have in Denmark, I understand.) < 1370095043 504000 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-175-59.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1370095051 936014 :itsy!~digital_w@84.93.181.157 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1370095323 886200 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FedExcited < 1370095763 595507 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should watch Monty Python and the Holy Grail < 1370096518 595100 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.141.209 JOIN :#esoteric < 1370096539 737122 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1370096569 665102 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :happy duplicate australian mailman list reminder day < 1370096638 912769 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1370096658 208498 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.141.209 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1370096690 632988 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/PL8ricO.jpg < 1370096721 751746 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: huh, I got no australian reminders. just actual reminders. < 1370096789 410301 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, agora-* aren't australian? < 1370096826 989442 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i guess it doesn't count if they're dated june 1 < 1370096827 95946 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh well sure. but it's not an australian reminder unless it comes a day early. < 1370096827 755404 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1370096834 375520 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1370096839 465270 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder why the australian list stopped sending reminders < 1370096846 425599 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok then. but you also got a duplicate? < 1370096857 431590 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope. strange. < 1370096863 623978 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or if I did then gmail lost the other < 1370096911 102964 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't get one from yoyo, but i got one from yzma.clarkk.net and one from agoranomic.org, with the same named lists but in different order. < 1370096946 874404 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the lists themselves were @agoranomic.org in both cases. < 1370097030 102487 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ah. presumably because the lists moved recently < 1370097038 919275 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :from taral to comex < 1370097048 23049 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, my back hurts with my laptop sitting on the sofa table :( < 1370097060 254299 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1370097068 619048 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :laptop tip: there is no comfortable way to use a laptop < 1370097109 428606 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...it worked well enough when sitting on the table of my old apartment, which was essentially a workbench < 1370097130 911032 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and of comfortable height with an ordinary chair < 1370097150 90569 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you tried putting it on your lap hth < 1370097170 341096 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. yesterday it got too hot for that, but i guess it hasn't warmed up yet. < 1370097173 570036 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :laptop tip: laptip?? < 1370097218 120627 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and i think i'll have to wait until i've finished my breakfast. < 1370097261 23079 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, i hope my initial hate for all the little annoying details of my new apartment subsides soon. < 1370097310 605366 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it of course does have that one huge pro: no housemates! < 1370097310 974135 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81e54b.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1370097319 543306 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey i was just about to ask about those. < 1370097391 53309 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :otoh there's still construction work in the area, the fridge is (still) noisy, and some neighbor apparently has a dog. < 1370097487 742821 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this the same fridge, or do you have a fridge ghost haunting you < 1370097499 844995 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fridge ghost, clearly. < 1370097509 807128 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :me too. < 1370097520 828841 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am clearly having some kind of mystical attraction to noise hth < 1370097693 246456 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's called "the law of attraction" in mystical circles. it says that you attract things you are passionate about, whether positively or negatively. at least i hope it includes positively as well. < 1370097778 651663 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if you are passionate about not being attracted? < 1370097808 970265 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you're james randi and ruin the experience for everyone else hth < 1370097861 19685 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, that's the obvious reason why science cannot prove this law hth (yes, i know of the other obvious reason) < 1370098095 292116 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-182-16.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1370098112 627918 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hexham attracts hexham < 1370098200 938710 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-182-16.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1370098647 325860 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you may be delighted to know that yesterday IE got so t(h)rashy on my usual newspaper comic site that i actually installed google chrome. you may not be delighted that it didn't really help, and that the site itself is so trashy that many of the links (randomly) didn't work in chrome. < 1370098789 441267 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that they _always_ work in IE either. especially the "like" button sometimes hangs up. < 1370098892 362337 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: today chrome, tomorrow netbsd on toasters. < 1370098914 997409 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :alas i don't have a toaster. < 1370098929 293028 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, you know it's really bad when you start buying them just to run netbsd on them. < 1370098948 109212 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :...you have a kettle right? i understand americans don't have the kinds of kettles we have and this disturbs me < 1370098973 939936 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-182-16.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My monitor keeps turning off and on < 1370098982 395949 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but i never use it and also haven't moved it over from the old apartment yet. < 1370099001 208083 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know what's great? toasters. highly recommended < 1370099024 855040 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember having the kettle discussion before. As far as I'm aware, a kettle is a thing that whistles when water is boiling < 1370099052 538060 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-182-16.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_, those exists, but so do electric kettles < 1370099059 356445 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-182-16.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which just turn themselves off < 1370099061 38964 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :technically there may be a toaster in my store of things from the old house which i cannot bear even thinking about and don't you start like my dad who is purely by chance coming here tomorrow < 1370099097 136992 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, but how will you know when your water is done boiling? < 1370099097 928323 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :...your dad is a fan of toasters? < 1370099109 956254 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-182-16.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_, it sort of clicks < 1370099111 630568 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, it has to whistle? then i probably don't have one. < 1370099113 859315 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-182-16.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And a light goes off < 1370099118 330672 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it doesn't have to whistle < 1370099121 62809 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it whistles you have the wrong kind < 1370099128 167969 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is generally kettle-shaped, though. < 1370099143 320419 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the right kind is nice and reassuring and is part of the elite group of appliances that have soft power cords. < 1370099147 824438 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but no soft power chords. < 1370099220 54457 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :finest alumin(i)um, i suspect, which is why it wasn't brought over because somehow there was an impression the new apartment had an induction stove but it doesn't anyhow. < 1370099261 776749 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm laundry < 1370099385 569625 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should be finest plastic < 1370099400 648561 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i fear only Taneb truly understands kettles here < 1370099422 98916 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, you can actually afford aluminum stuff? Isn't that insanely expensive? < 1370099469 246980 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1370099473 218533 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-182-16.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, one of my friends has the wrong kind, but he also has an AGA cooker so it is okay < 1370099484 872484 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: i'm busy trying to understand Sgeo_'s statement < 1370099486 78476 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION was vaguely trying to pretend to be from the past < 1370099512 925524 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-182-16.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, it was addressed at oerjan < 1370099563 888452 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/elements/features/2010/blogging_the_periodic_table/aluminum_it_used_to_be_more_precious_than_gold.html etc etc < 1370099690 659994 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i don't think my dad uses toasters much. < 1370099718 148980 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-182-16.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, can you help me learn Agda < 1370099732 511191 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: not really < 1370099737 317548 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-182-16.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay < 1370099738 359503 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm better at coq myself < 1370099742 830342 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-182-16.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, can you? < 1370099757 952395 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: just put types everywhere, and values in the types hth < 1370099763 454268 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION doesn't know agda < 1370099850 55914 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do recall something about napoleon (I or III?) getting awesome aluminum plates < 1370099930 790204 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Article said that Napoleon III gave aluminum cutlery for guests, with gold cutlery being the lesser cutlery < 1370099943 567436 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :" and the minor emperor Napoleon III reserved a prized set of aluminum cutlery for special guests at banquets. (Less favored guests used gold knives and forks.) " < 1370099949 31814 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1370099955 861947 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There. I should do that instead of trying to rephrase < 1370100046 63525 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :napoleon iii was quite a guy. < 1370100221 351899 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_, fun fact, in dwarf fortress aluminium is as valuable as platinum < 1370100276 490836 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(doesn't aluminium look kind of drab when used for cutlery?) < 1370100370 86623 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd think < 1370100410 258104 :2JTAABS63!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-2-102.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1370100457 684876 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :""Above all, people adored Element 13's color and luster, which reminded them of the sparkle of gold and silver—a brand-new precious metal." < 1370100468 332186 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means "no", i think. < 1370100485 854460 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1370100488 785509 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-182-16.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1370100547 934085 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1370100569 293894 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's some modern surfacing thing they do that makes it look dull grey rather than actually shiny < 1370100575 849205 :2JTAABS63!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-2-102.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr NICK :sebbu < 1370100815 1802 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was going to click the vanadium article, but it opens in a new window even with ctrl < 1370100844 317075 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is of course a deadly sin (while opening in a new window without ctrl is only a grievous one.) < 1370100844 802880 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love vanadium because i can never remember anything whatsoever of interest about it < 1370100856 215136 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try right-click and open in new tab? < 1370100861 540387 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is pretty much why i wanted to click on it < 1370100895 642255 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: there's not actually a real link, it's flash < 1370100912 921019 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :gold cutlery seems kind of tacky < 1370100943 110172 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I didn't even notice the little period table. Have Flash set to click-to-play < 1370100945 559329 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the point hth < 1370100994 445193 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION finds a proper link to it < 1370101025 789844 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :little houses on the hillside, little houses made of gold < 1370101040 327325 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1370101042 493556 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*boxes < 1370101057 550288 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, i forgot that sea squirts obsessively hoard it < 1370101062 457434 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly they know something i don't < 1370101079 639263 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :when the sea squirts have enough, we're doomed < 1370101107 705345 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, they've just anticipated peak vanadium < 1370101219 6804 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah blood < 1370101235 81210 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but beware of the sea squirt vampires < 1370101455 52982 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-2-102.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1370101501 348574 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-2-102.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1370101501 456859 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1370101520 585219 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-2-102.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1370102214 40417 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1370102839 789422 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-182-16.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1370103858 178159 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.113 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1370104365 327674 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-175-59.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1370104959 123400 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-112.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1370105055 58761 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-255-79.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1370105872 926599 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1370106873 129893 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Court Jester or Monty Python and the Holy Grail? < 1370107043 540392 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monty Court and the Holy Jester. < 1370107065 727482 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's when you set up your 3D system so that you get one movie on left eye and the other on right. < 1370107113 493021 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: The Court Jester hth < 1370107146 786262 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: should i watch _Singin' in the Rain_ < 1370107374 445043 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-255-79.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1370107421 803572 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you just answer yes to everything..............! < 1370107448 562136 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-255-79.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically < 1370107627 891434 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well then i guess i shouldn nt take movie adviçe from you!! < 1370107740 926126 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Movie adviçe please. < 1370107741 958877 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i've been somewhat frustrated on my first tries. i get this thing start installing, i'll come back to fnord < 1370107751 637216 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, take your time. < 1370107765 355002 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: what about plan 9 from outer space? < 1370107766 334328 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i haven't tried it out in usenet for all to despise." with no bindings is valid.) comic 17 is fnord, young skywalker" < 1370107782 984771 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: well usenet is almost dead anyway. < 1370107783 413650 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: better still, haven't you got can't you make it ' x 3 works. < 1370107794 40428 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh oh i know < 1370107809 393969 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: should i watch Real Fast Nora's Hair Salon 3: Shear Disaster Download < 1370107820 314622 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-255-79.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, Taneb should. < 1370107826 824062 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1370107833 925953 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i watch _Nora's Hair Salon_ < 1370107884 337953 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-255-79.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Refer to previous mesage. < 1370107976 7890 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should make a comparison thing between Rebol and Kernel to try to convince kmc to look at it >.> < 1370107988 37365 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And maybe not mention it before I do so < 1370108061 684031 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Make sure it has affine types. < 1370108066 492089 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn, camino browser has ceased developmenr < 1370108171 110673 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: spoiler: nora dies < 1370108198 558824 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh nora < 1370108207 225616 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p4FDCF9F1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1370108422 110134 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guy in Rebol chat is raving about SpaceChem as an educational tool < 1370108433 277025 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(raving in a good way) < 1370108515 8723 :Bike_!~Glossina@71-222-56-127.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1370108524 261598 :Bike_!~Glossina@71-222-56-127.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1370108540 299595 :Bike_!~Glossina@71-222-56-127.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1370108551 565052 :Bike_!~Glossina@71-222-56-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rave on < 1370108556 815673 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-255-79.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1370108559 101675 :Bike_!~Glossina@71-222-56-127.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1370108628 743532 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :r̈av̈e < 1370109463 179631 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.113 JOIN :#esoteric < 1370109521 498453 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.113 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1370109547 80893 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.141.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :r̈äv̈ë < 1370109576 254082 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry? I can't understand you < 1370109811 962793 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ŕāv̄è < 1370110309 292362 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fjällrävän < 1370110392 761117 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1370110442 574342 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1370111033 500152 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1370111133 18105 :surma!uid6361@c-base/crew/surma QUIT :K-Lined < 1370111133 684496 :ssue_!uid5338@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-diazosfoamvqzqdw QUIT :K-Lined < 1370111134 189973 :abumirqaan!uid2969@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oclgzmerdzkaobqg QUIT :K-Lined < 1370111136 609167 :iamcal__!uid1110@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-kqonmasfdgkzqtrc QUIT :K-Lined < 1370111137 701408 :ggherdov!uid11402@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pjsuaoilxshjosju QUIT :K-Lined < 1370111148 501116 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1370111215 812121 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok they're all on that irccloud.com thing except surma < 1370111281 603261 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`seen ggherdov < 1370111288 5076 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :not lately; try `seen ggherdov ever < 1370111291 911449 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`seen ggherdov eve < 1370111296 464888 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :not lately; try `seen ggherdov ever < 1370111298 512685 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`seen ggherdov ever < 1370111304 12748 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2013-03-31 20:12:10: oerjan: thankyou! < 1370111322 835905 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose they were collateral damage < 1370111488 279137 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1370111516 678642 :iamcal__!uid1110@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-amfygayzmuxgshhk JOIN :#esoteric < 1370111553 525761 :ggherdov!uid11402@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wngpofmpwlxgjtiy JOIN :#esoteric < 1370111558 715374 :surma!uid6361@c-base/crew/surma JOIN :#esoteric < 1370111590 776655 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps someone klined everyone matching uid* < 1370111618 381774 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1370111677 407669 :abumirqaan!uid2969@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ojuenzpzjzjxfgbf JOIN :#esoteric < 1370111698 943068 :ssue_!uid5338@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cejpjqkupjyazwrs JOIN :#esoteric < 1370111814 119784 :tswett_!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com NICK :tswett < 1370111861 26963 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1370111868 647040 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-175-59.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1370111910 917765 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-182-16.as13285.net QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1370111941 442376 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-199-146.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1370111972 348240 :yonkie!~yonkie@ip.82.144.199.214.stat.volia.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1370111996 800337 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Saw this in another channel < 1370111997 198777 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://thehathorlegacy.com/why-film-schools-teach-screenwriters-not-to-pass-the-bechdel-test/ < 1370112002 843223 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't know how real that is < 1370112271 381577 :phamiltiz!~perdent@124-169-253-41.dyn.iinet.net.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1370112316 132464 :abumirqaan!uid2969@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ojuenzpzjzjxfgbf QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1370112508 485646 :phamiltiz!~perdent@124-169-253-41.dyn.iinet.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastebin.com/v1kbjhBS < 1370112532 491843 :phamiltiz!~perdent@124-169-253-41.dyn.iinet.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can this be made shorter in an esoteric lang? < 1370112553 129001 :phamiltiz!~perdent@124-169-253-41.dyn.iinet.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Input: http://pastebin.com/uwbmWGSz < 1370112613 645936 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1370112679 240193 :phamiltiz!~perdent@124-169-253-41.dyn.iinet.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :My perl script produces this output: http://pastebin.com/pnpsUgu5 < 1370112731 860893 :phamiltiz!~perdent@124-169-253-41.dyn.iinet.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :How short can it be made in any Lang? :D < 1370112900 72575 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it can be as short as 0 bytes < 1370112908 452387 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :given a suitable interpreter < 1370112929 906998 :phamiltiz!~perdent@124-169-253-41.dyn.iinet.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 bytes would not achieve the goal < 1370112934 801750 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not? < 1370112953 659891 :phamiltiz!~perdent@124-169-253-41.dyn.iinet.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :You need code in order to run something < 1370112980 141974 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-56-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just have an interpreter that interprets an empty string to do whatever your script does. < 1370112987 230725 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a language in which the empty program is defined to do exactly what you want of course < 1370112999 600059 :phamiltiz!~perdent@124-169-253-41.dyn.iinet.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :The point is not to use my script at all < 1370113009 379476 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :so why do you want to implement it < 1370113029 642769 :phamiltiz!~perdent@124-169-253-41.dyn.iinet.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to see if it can be made shorter in an esoteric Lang < 1370113042 304683 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :as said, of course < 1370113043 103476 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it could make it shorten in _perl_, anyhow < 1370113047 949812 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*i could < 1370113055 447393 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*shorter < 1370113077 521837 :phamiltiz!~perdent@124-169-253-41.dyn.iinet.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :And in say haskell? < 1370113082 148663 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you mean "can it be made shorter in an esolang that also does other (possibly) useful stuff" < 1370113088 824740 :phamiltiz!~perdent@124-169-253-41.dyn.iinet.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :What Lang could you make it shortest < 1370113102 79594 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the language suggested earlier of course < 1370113121 300418 :phamiltiz!~perdent@124-169-253-41.dyn.iinet.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which? < 1370113140 91209 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I think the length of your program will depend more on /how/ you write the code in this situation < 1370113183 486721 :phamiltiz!~perdent@124-169-253-41.dyn.iinet.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well it must generate the same output < 1370113186 472038 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm haskell could be short if we assumed that exact format < 1370113220 291609 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-56-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :phamiltiz: the one where the empty program does what the script does. < 1370113262 811276 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well if you removed all of the redundant statements and white-space, and made all identifiers really short (and eliminated all redundant identifiers), it would be shorter < 1370113290 614782 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :nvm what's in the parenthesis, not always/usually correct < 1370113318 524661 :phamiltiz!~perdent@124-169-253-41.dyn.iinet.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Least amount of chars < 1370113322 821805 :phamiltiz!~perdent@124-169-253-41.dyn.iinet.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Code golf < 1370113323 567613 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t stripPrefix < 1370113324 779383 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eq a => [a] -> [a] -> Maybe [a] < 1370113351 693463 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-56-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can probably do that with unix tools in in a line or two of line noise, i imagine < 1370113371 878884 :phamiltiz!~perdent@124-169-253-41.dyn.iinet.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean bash? < 1370113387 70125 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well if you want to golf you might use something like Burlesque I guess, great language for that < 1370113387 141709 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t map (head &&& length) group . sort . catMaybes . map (stripPrefix "username:" . drop 2 . words) . lines < 1370113388 329344 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `b0 -> c0' with actual type `[b1]' < 1370113388 576767 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : In the return type of a call of `map' < 1370113388 648430 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Probable cause: `map' is applied to too many arguments < 1370113391 270479 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah < 1370113401 647541 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :or golfscript maybe < 1370113411 934394 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t map (stripPrefix "username:" . drop 2 . words) . lines < 1370113413 34607 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `Char' with actual type `String' < 1370113413 285520 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Expected type: String -> [Char] < 1370113413 357541 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Actual type: String -> [String] < 1370113414 903970 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruby seems to be popular too < 1370113449 34164 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-56-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :phamiltiz: probably sed < 1370113481 86232 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t map (stripPrefix "username:" . (!!2) . words) . lines < 1370113482 269909 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :String -> [Maybe [Char]] < 1370113502 257571 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t map (head &&& length) group . sort . catMaybes . map (stripPrefix "username:" . (!!2) . words) . lines < 1370113503 687311 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `b0 -> c0' with actual type `[b1]' < 1370113503 848864 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : In the return type of a call of `map' < 1370113503 920718 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Probable cause: `map' is applied to too many arguments < 1370113547 747216 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t catMaybes . map (stripPrefix "username:" . (!!2) . words) . lines < 1370113548 864560 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :String -> [[Char]] < 1370113554 18391 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t sort . catMaybes . map (stripPrefix "username:" . (!!2) . words) . lines < 1370113555 233771 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :String -> [[Char]] < 1370113565 679045 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t group . sort . catMaybes . map (stripPrefix "username:" . (!!2) . words) . lines < 1370113566 887771 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :String -> [[[Char]]] < 1370113581 799903 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t map (head &&& length) . group . sort . catMaybes . map (stripPrefix "username:" . (!!2) . words) . lines < 1370113582 909300 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :String -> [([Char], Int)] < 1370113595 252627 :phamiltiz!~perdent@124-169-253-41.dyn.iinet.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, what are you doing? < 1370113609 513441 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-56-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's writing your script in haskell. < 1370113641 440869 :phamiltiz!~perdent@124-169-253-41.dyn.iinet.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :But how is he importing the input? < 1370113653 274155 :phamiltiz!~perdent@124-169-253-41.dyn.iinet.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Testing the input rather < 1370113668 302028 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :haven't got to that part yet < 1370113674 461225 :phamiltiz!~perdent@124-169-253-41.dyn.iinet.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see :) < 1370113716 659751 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map (head &&& length) . group . sort . catMaybes . map (stripPrefix "username:" . (!!2) . words) . lines $ "1.Vote (from:minestatus username:zsamkj address:174.1.** timeStamp:2012-04-30 20:10:51 -0700)\n2.Vote (from:minestatus username:revolutionxx2 address:50.129.** timeStamp:2012-04-30 20:11:02 -0700)" < 1370113717 862732 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : [("revolutionxx2",1),("zsamkj",1)] < 1370113783 32401 :phamiltiz!~perdent@124-169-253-41.dyn.iinet.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :The problem now would be to test all the 30 lines of input < 1370113800 134276 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yes, can't get that into lambdabot easily < 1370113818 432831 :phamiltiz!~perdent@124-169-253-41.dyn.iinet.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ideone < 1370113858 292938 :phamiltiz!~perdent@124-169-253-41.dyn.iinet.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ideone you can place input < 1370113951 323157 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t mapM_ putStrLn . map (\s -> head s ++ " occurs->" ++ show (length s)) (head &&& length) . group . sort . catMaybes . map (stripPrefix "username:" . (!!2) . words) . lines =<< getContents < 1370113952 437440 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `b0 -> [String]' < 1370113952 659972 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : with actual type `[b1]' < 1370113952 731801 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : In the return type of a call of `map' < 1370113958 585721 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1370113968 649155 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t mapM_ putStrLn . map (\s -> head s ++ " occurs->" ++ show (length s)) . group . sort . catMaybes . map (stripPrefix "username:" . (!!2) . words) . lines =<< getContents < 1370113969 856356 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IO () < 1370114122 567968 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah cutting and pasting from irc isn't nice < 1370114155 791392 :phamiltiz!~perdent@124-169-253-41.dyn.iinet.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1370114189 191598 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i cannot manage to edit the form after pasting wrongly :( < 1370114202 131956 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.121 QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1370114235 404745 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assume it's because i'm on IE 8, oh well. < 1370114308 980396 :phamiltiz!~perdent@124-169-253-41.dyn.iinet.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lol < 1370114317 974983 :phamiltiz!~perdent@124-169-253-41.dyn.iinet.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Edit what form? < 1370114322 686079 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ideone < 1370114338 252222 :phamiltiz!~perdent@124-169-253-41.dyn.iinet.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Click input < 1370114343 306558 :phamiltiz!~perdent@124-169-253-41.dyn.iinet.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :And paste your input < 1370114367 752477 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :phamiltiz: the thing is pasting from irc doesn't get it correctly formatted and it wasn't a whole program anyway. < 1370114429 586176 :phamiltiz!~perdent@124-169-253-41.dyn.iinet.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan > map (head &&& length) . group . sort . catMaybes . map (stripPrefix "username:" . (!!2) . words) . lines $ "1.Vote (from:minestatus username:zsamkj address:174.1.** timeStamp:2012-04-30 20:10:51 -0700)\n2.Vote (from:minestatus username:revolutionxx2 address:50.129.** timeStamp:2012-04-30 20:11:02 -0700)" < 1370114434 713948 :phamiltiz!~perdent@124-169-253-41.dyn.iinet.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :That doesn't? < 1370114455 325791 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...we already tested that with lambdabot < 1370114491 34461 :phamiltiz!~perdent@124-169-253-41.dyn.iinet.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :What doesn't get formatted correctly? < 1370114503 497353 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PART :#esoteric < 1370114508 314189 :phamiltiz!~perdent@124-169-253-41.dyn.iinet.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I sent you the input on pastebin? < 1370114555 154253 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.141.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :n%{' '/2=9>}%:x.|${0):0': '@.x\`{=}+,,' occurs->'\n}% < 1370114557 403841 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-56-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not download the raw paste to lambdabot and just run the haskell locally. < 1370114560 839183 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.141.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my golfscript submission < 1370114609 74059 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: because lambdabot doesn't support downloading hth < 1370114619 269758 :phamiltiz!~perdent@124-169-253-41.dyn.iinet.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :No chance understanding that golf script < 1370114623 662009 :phamiltiz!~perdent@124-169-253-41.dyn.iinet.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it even work < 1370114627 250554 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.141.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does < 1370114645 519284 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-56-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, right, i meant hack ego. < 1370114651 158662 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-56-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :w/e they're all practically the same fucking bot < 1370114656 422011 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.141.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll make an explanation thingy < 1370114659 203653 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.141.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's pretty cool < 1370114694 408627 :phamiltiz!~perdent@124-169-253-41.dyn.iinet.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1370114705 604773 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :phamiltiz: i managed to submit it but it's never finishing compiling < 1370114739 201504 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :my guess is it has finished but my browser hasn't noticed < 1370114746 999064 :phamiltiz!~perdent@124-169-253-41.dyn.iinet.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lol < 1370114750 977006 :phamiltiz!~perdent@124-169-253-41.dyn.iinet.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Use chrome < 1370114779 11502 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1370114840 580671 :phamiltiz!~perdent@124-169-253-41.dyn.iinet.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl_ how does your golf script take input? < 1370114858 101427 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.141.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :from stdin. there's no other way < 1370114875 266866 :phamiltiz!~perdent@124-169-253-41.dyn.iinet.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :In .txt file format? < 1370114876 524259 :ggherdov!uid11402@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wngpofmpwlxgjtiy QUIT :Changing host < 1370114876 524422 :ggherdov!uid11402@unaffiliated/ggherdov JOIN :#esoteric < 1370114876 595651 :ggherdov!uid11402@unaffiliated/ggherdov QUIT :Changing host < 1370114876 595791 :ggherdov!uid11402@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wngpofmpwlxgjtiy JOIN :#esoteric < 1370114880 204460 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.141.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup < 1370114887 956883 :phamiltiz!~perdent@124-169-253-41.dyn.iinet.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh I see :D < 1370114896 39711 :phamiltiz!~perdent@124-169-253-41.dyn.iinet.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's pretty good then < 1370114900 465131 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have too many tabs open to close IE, and too little memory on this old laptop to open chrome (which, accidentally, i only installed yesterday) < 1370114911 24913 :phamiltiz!~perdent@124-169-253-41.dyn.iinet.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lol < 1370114929 852013 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :however i have another way < 1370114959 207747 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch http://oerjan.nvg.org/test.hs < 1370114965 648899 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2013-06-01 19:29:24 URL:http://oerjan.nvg.org/test.hs [200/200] -> "test.hs" [1] < 1370114970 809079 :phamiltiz!~perdent@124-169-253-41.dyn.iinet.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nooodl_ so how does your golf script work < 1370114977 71979 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :IE fails to close if you have too many tabs open? < 1370114984 741439 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ghc --make test.hs < 1370114989 746820 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[1 of 1] Compiling Main ( test.hs, test.o ) \ \ test.hs:2:80: Not in scope: `group' \ \ test.hs:2:95: Not in scope: `catMaybes' \ \ test.hs:2:112: Not in scope: `stripPrefix' < 1370115013 181897 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: no, but i don't want to reopen all of them afterwards. < 1370115018 259343 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1370115024 813971 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wonder it doesn't compile < 1370115044 345915 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch http://oerjan.nvg.org/test.hs < 1370115047 94567 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2013-06-01 19:30:46 URL:http://oerjan.nvg.org/test.hs [213/213] -> "test.hs.1" [1] < 1370115062 8688 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mv test.hs{.1,} < 1370115065 796624 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1370115067 15526 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ghc --make test.hs < 1370115069 402014 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.141.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://bpaste.net/raw/oBwty2rsVEjLEHxO4SGu/ < 1370115070 549456 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[1 of 1] Compiling Main ( test.hs, test.o ) \ \ test.hs:2:80: Not in scope: `group' \ \ test.hs:2:95: Not in scope: `catMaybes' < 1370115076 242928 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1370115102 208144 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm test.hs < 1370115105 507171 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1370115106 109222 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch http://oerjan.nvg.org/test.hs < 1370115108 744197 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2013-06-01 19:31:47 URL:http://oerjan.nvg.org/test.hs [250/250] -> "test.hs" [1] < 1370115109 856478 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ghc --make test.hs < 1370115137 107738 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[1 of 1] Compiling Main ( test.hs, test.o ) \ Linking test ... < 1370115141 896224 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is the point where HackEgo dies, obvio... oh. < 1370115154 775571 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.141.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the final block i've just displayed the stack < 1370115202 463511 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :goddamn you websites _no sane person_ wants links to open in a new window by default! < 1370115239 774492 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=uwbmWGSz < 1370115242 21789 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2013-06-01 19:34:00 URL:http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=uwbmWGSz [2916] -> "raw.php?i=uwbmWGSz" [1] < 1370115245 395215 :itsy!~digital_w@84.93.182.18 JOIN :#esoteric < 1370115250 683296 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Especially if you make it the left button for same window and middle button for new window < 1370115268 920017 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ./test <'raw.php?i=uwbmWGSz' < 1370115270 787240 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anonymous occurs->2 \ Baglex occurs->1 \ M3thud occurs->1 \ Mitzuki_Tsukashi occurs->1 \ Mo_Digger occurs->1 \ Organtrail occurs->1 \ RiceKnight occurs->1 \ Ryan2823 occurs->1 \ VolitionEos occurs->1 \ XxDarkAngel_xX occurs->1 \ counto1 occurs->1 \ dude1576 occurs->1 \ hungoverfurball occurs->1 \ jamesus occurs->2 \ jonathanklarlund occurs->1 \ kua < 1370115284 233593 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :phamiltiz: looks good :) < 1370115298 291733 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.141.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch http://www.golfscript.com/golfscript/golfscript.rb < 1370115300 889028 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2013-06-01 19:34:59 URL:http://www.golfscript.com/golfscript/golfscript.rb [8834/8834] -> "golfscript.rb" [1] < 1370115328 714974 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.141.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo "n%{' '/2=9>}%:x.|${0):0': '@.x\`{=}+,,' occurs->'\n}%" > test.gs < 1370115330 312305 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​"n%{' '/2=9>}%:x.|${0):0': '@.x\`{=}+,,' occurs->'\n}%" > test.gs < 1370115347 874586 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.141.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "n%{' '/2=9>}%:x.|${0):0': '@.x\`{=}+,,' occurs->'\n}%" > test.gs < 1370115349 404349 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: n%{' '/2=9>}%:x.|${0):0': '@.x\`{=}+,,' occurs->'\n}%: bad substitution < 1370115353 727298 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.141.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1370115354 967619 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.141.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fucking bash < 1370115377 162346 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.141.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch http://bpaste.net/raw/C76Falgtu390Rz4jmqW6/ < 1370115379 912531 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2013-06-01 19:36:18 URL:http://bpaste.net/raw/C76Falgtu390Rz4jmqW6/ [53/53] -> "index.html" [1] < 1370115412 700311 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.141.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ruby golfscript.rb index.html <'raw.php?i=uwbmWGSz' < 1370115414 727057 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: ruby: command not found < 1370115417 732170 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.141.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha ok < 1370115428 204506 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy < 1370115430 927438 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.141.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run rm index.html golfscript.rb < 1370115434 974882 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1370115473 192089 :phamiltiz!~perdent@124-169-253-41.dyn.iinet.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is golfscript written in ruby? < 1370115477 73733 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway i declare this to have reached the "it's possible" step where mathematicians customarily go back to bed < 1370115542 22685 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or in my case, to the fridge hth < 1370115609 945978 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1370115742 127126 :phamiltiz!~perdent@124-169-253-41.dyn.iinet.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :J is a language for the mathematicians < 1370115774 694506 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-56-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and/or banks < 1370115819 189479 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.141.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do banks SERIOUSLY use j < 1370115880 635615 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-56-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Cognos · Bayesian Enhanced Strategic Trading · Fax Focus, Inc. · Hewlett Packard · Intel · Korea Telecom · Luen Thai · Maple Partners · Microsoft · Niagara Mohawk Power · Nikko Securities · Novell · Okada Denki Co. Ltd. · Pivotal Technologies · Syngenesis, Inc." < 1370115887 144356 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-56-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :one or more of those are possibly banks or bankoids < 1370115949 848970 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :those are all just categories in the functor of endobankoids < 1370116022 628773 :itsy!~digital_w@84.93.182.18 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders how to contact Darkman < 1370116065 393715 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-56-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the dark signal < 1370116167 90923 :itsy!~digital_w@84.93.182.18 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Obvious now you mention it. I've wasted so much time with the bat signal :-( < 1370116483 653303 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem with the dark signal is, it's dark hth < 1370116522 494437 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although ironically, bats can "see" it just fine. < 1370116604 950593 :itsy!~digital_w@84.93.182.18 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume Darkman can "see" it too? < 1370116620 279176 :itsy!~digital_w@84.93.182.18 PRIVMSG #esoteric :According to legend he was bitten by a bat. < 1370116636 100699 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if he's a bat. since batman is dark, it stands to reason darkman would be bat. < 1370117339 21184 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.113 JOIN :#esoteric < 1370119201 461036 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p4FDCF9F1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 21.0/20130511120803] < 1370119214 634299 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: http://olist.com/ < 1370119223 498685 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(No update.) < 1370119254 397428 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :o. list... < 1370119259 842505 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-56-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"OEvolve: OEvolve is an e-mail list for Objectivists and others interested in the proper application of evolutionary principles to diet, fitness, and health. Its purpose is to facilitate discussion about the practical sciences of cooking, nutrition, fitness, health, and more. " haha, what < 1370119443 949168 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1370119968 664519 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As long as they don't start applying 'evolutionary principles' to morality... oh wait < 1370119978 854704 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sigh, I *still* haven't found a good RSS reader. < 1370119989 40878 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Suggestions? < 1370120020 663404 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to keep using Google Reader until the day it closes. < 1370120250 290904 :itsy!~digital_w@84.93.182.18 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is still using Google Reader < 1370120258 46995 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1370120262 79004 :itsy!~digital_w@84.93.182.18 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if there's a decent RSS reader for Android < 1370120304 680072 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION checks to see if Liferea stopped sucking. < 1370120310 762379 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And yeah, I'm using Google Reader too. < 1370120398 943754 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh sweet, Liferea stopped sucking. < 1370120404 698912 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: My father switched from Google Reader to Feedly. < 1370120409 483859 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: He says it's good. < 1370120801 197396 :itsy!~digital_w@84.93.182.18 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1370120915 659731 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :very stupid name, though < 1370120922 128497 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like someone trying to market an std < 1370120927 868350 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-199-146.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I ask for help learning Agda in #agda, will they be annoyed < 1370120934 536524 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Grah < 1370120936 478192 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :incredibly < 1370120937 525589 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw "Intel launches Haswell processors:" < 1370120942 88876 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And misread it as Haskell < 1370120946 570612 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-199-146.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_, same, multiple times < 1370120976 723802 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I imagine that you'll be much less annoying than some people who've asked for help before. < 1370121543 836462 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the haskell groundswell < 1370121613 138155 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb already knows another language where you can be annoying in the type system < 1370122349 945637 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Agda you can be annoying in the same way at every level. < 1370122879 710473 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :marvelous < 1370123836 863122 :itsy!~digital_w@84.93.182.18 JOIN :#esoteric < 1370124058 707118 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1370124273 392961 :elieser224!~elieser22@190.121.238.27 JOIN :#esoteric < 1370124280 259558 :elieser224!~elieser22@190.121.238.27 PART :#esoteric < 1370124520 38768 :itsy!~digital_w@84.93.182.18 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a better way to do this? var dt = new Date(); if (new Date(2013,5,3) <= dt && dt <= new Date(2013,5,6)) { ... stuff ... } < 1370124563 534874 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i smell an uninitialized date comparison hth < 1370124586 303871 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-56-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was guessing date without parameters gave you the present date < 1370124589 12166 :itsy!~digital_w@84.93.182.18 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't new Date() give today's date? < 1370124591 223326 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1370124609 684523 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wouldn't know < 1370124674 223180 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:ae81:12ff:fe32:878a QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1370124706 273254 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although looking at the current date, i suspect if (false) would be an appropriate rephrasing hth >:) < 1370124780 749711 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(don't mind me, i don't know the language so i wouldn't know if it has a better idiom) < 1370124810 748518 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:ae81:12ff:fe32:878a JOIN :#esoteric < 1370124830 667677 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is, i doubt there's a better way that works across all C-lookalikes. < 1370124831 713484 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: itsy is writing unit tests for his time machine hth < 1370124837 862646 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ooh < 1370124907 233995 :itsy!~digital_w@84.93.182.18 PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least Chrome no longer gets angry if I change the system date while it's open. < 1370124940 708742 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :chronochrome < 1370124988 98335 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :chronochrom < 1370125043 935296 :itsy!~digital_w@84.93.182.18 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is better! var dt = new Date(); if (new Date(2013,5,3) < dt && dt < new Date(2013,5,7)) { ... stuff ... } < 1370125113 593996 :itsy!~digital_w@84.93.182.18 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(since the date object also stores the time) < 1370125141 672968 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Presumably those mean different things, in that case? < 1370125148 53031 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.113 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1370125192 861404 :itsy!~digital_w@84.93.182.18 PRIVMSG #esoteric :new Date(2013,5,6) sets the time to midnight in the new date object. < 1370125220 535402 :itsy!~digital_w@84.93.182.18 PRIVMSG #esoteric :new Date() get's today's date, including the time. < 1370125263 101534 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. Checking x <= 6 isn't the same as checking x < 7, when x can be 6.5. < 1370125264 364467 :itsy!~digital_w@84.93.182.18 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Comparing for equality also includes the time... < 1370125361 952611 :itsy!~digital_w@84.93.182.18 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm happy with it now :-) (Apart from Javascript's stupid 0 = January, 1 = February thing) < 1370125419 863778 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-199-146.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"But it was that same internet that directly led to his imprisonment a year ago next month." -- BBC News website < 1370125741 778405 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-199-146.as13285.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1370125900 322150 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :0-based month numbers have a long pedigree. (At least it doesn't do the 113 = year 2013 thing.) < 1370126089 114747 :phamiltiz!~perdent@124-169-253-41.dyn.iinet.net.au QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1370126112 115838 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ifMUD does make 113 if you are at year 2013. < 1370126229 150996 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Things that get implemented as thin things over the C/POSIX "struct tm" sometimes do. < 1370126251 129628 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think ifMUD is written in Perl, though. < 1370126460 229165 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perl localtime/gmtime elements "come straight out of the C `struct tm'" (perldoc -f localtime), too. < 1370127456 163372 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote 2017 < 1370127456 421324 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cmccann says: I still kind of expect that the next standard will be haskell2017 or something, and all it will do is a minor change to lexical syntax of comments that fixes nothing but nevertheless < 1370127456 521828 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :breaks 20% of hackage. < 1370127468 305365 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quoerjan < 1370127468 760321 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1370127471 45462 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@where quoerjan < 1370127471 495555 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know nothing about quoerjan. < 1370127477 928535 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@where+ quoerjan @quote oerjan < 1370127478 316059 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will never forget. < 1370127484 843816 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@@ @@ @where quoerjan < 1370127485 203560 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan says: i only do impractical things < 1370127540 988178 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that's the only one < 1370127601 321645 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@@ @@ @where quoerjan < 1370127601 872994 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan says: i only do impractical things < 1370127602 659477 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@@ @@ @where quoerjan < 1370127602 972368 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@@ @@ @where quoerjan < 1370127603 79103 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1370127603 200944 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1370127603 272963 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan says: i only do impractical things < 1370127603 412338 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan says: so does this mean that a comonad is like a wildlife preserve on an island in a sea of nuclear waste? < 1370127606 78555 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@@ @@ @where quoerjan < 1370127606 557889 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan says: @. read run (\s -> s ++ show s) "@. read run (\\s -> s ++ show s) " < 1370127608 331780 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@@ @@ @where quoerjan < 1370127608 690346 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan says: hotsmack < 1370127610 835932 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@@ @@ @where quoerjan < 1370127611 209379 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan says: hotsmack < 1370127613 338672 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@@ @@ @where quoerjan < 1370127613 809705 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan says: @. read run (\s -> s ++ show s) "@. read run (\\s -> s ++ show s) " < 1370127625 835030 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@@ (@@ @where quoerjan) worries < 1370127626 312218 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan says: hotsmack worries < 1370127629 500129 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er. < 1370127636 724316 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@@ @@ (@where quoerjan) worries < 1370127637 163087 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan says: 'N' :( 'o' :) " worries" < 1370127654 107573 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh there are others < 1370127808 51946 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-56-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://static1.businessinsider.com/image/51a8edc369bedd1f5600000a-780-586/screen%20shot%202013-05-31%20at%202.36.05%20pm.png nasty < 1370127884 617320 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@@ @@ @where quonochrom < 1370127884 945752 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : monochrom says: no, you're thinking imperatively. when thinking functionally, you just worry one element, and let recursion worry the rest < 1370127885 35788 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@@ @@ @where quonochrom < 1370127885 291572 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@@ @@ @where quonochrom < 1370127885 428292 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : monochrom says: "mechanical layout" means the robot had to know this layout in order to mechanically enter stuff through the keyboard. "but why through the keyboard, why not through USB?" you ask. < 1370127885 518617 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@@ @@ @where quonochrom < 1370127885 628166 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, 20 years ago, there was no USB, and overall robot-to-computer interfaces were pretty crude, full of mechanical layouts"mechanical layout" means the robot had to know this layout in order to < 1370127885 699765 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mechanically < 1370127885 771398 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : monochrom says: no, you're thinking imperatively. when thinking functionally, you just worry one element, and let recursion worry the rest < 1370127886 986110 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : monochrom says: the selfish program's motive is to fool the programmer < 1370128012 748020 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well motorola finally invented the edible password: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/05/31/motorola_tattoo_pill_authentication/ < 1370128026 710980 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :heegan < 1370128037 514226 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hichaf < 1370128088 103136 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-56-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: http://static1.businessinsider.com/image/51a8edc369bedd1f5600000a-780-586/screen%20shot%202013-05-31%20at%202.36.05%20pm.png cool industry huh < 1370128122 477737 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :idgi < 1370128140 444498 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i realized today that the thing you would work on at mozilla is a web application < 1370128151 124720 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: lol < 1370128168 285143 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :browsers are considered systems programming now, get w/ the times < 1370128178 416260 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the webbiest web application of all < 1370128209 18655 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://nationaldayofhacking.info/ < 1370128260 886876 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.paloaltoonline.com/news/show_story.php?id=29818 < 1370128269 147722 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1370128302 652666 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, your link is better. < 1370128483 282747 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1370128525 565027 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: wow < 1370128539 914013 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :palo alt. toon line < 1370128560 347920 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The city will also set up a "Tech Farmers Market," where instead of farm-to-table goods, there will be ideas-to-minds concepts. < 1370128654 168554 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1370128660 326312 :amca!~amca@CPE-121-208-80-15.cqzr1.cha.bigpond.net.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1370128968 350902 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com TOPIC #esoteric :Ideas-to-minds concepts | http://underhanded.xcott.com/?page_id=5 | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric | There exist Turing machines that halt in some models of ZFC, but not others. < 1370129042 289053 :elieser2241!~elieser22@190.121.239.22 JOIN :#esoteric < 1370129061 216513 :elieser2241!~elieser22@190.121.239.22 PART :#esoteric < 1370129387 225256 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1370129829 323330 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t associate < 1370129830 537028 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in scope: `associate' < 1370129835 404632 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hoogle associate < 1370129835 641645 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No results found < 1370129855 637184 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hoogledy-poogledy < 1370129907 756432 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was wondering about what it was in http://stackoverflow.com/a/16552361 < 1370129971 536941 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm it's probably \((x,y),z) -> (x,(y,z)) < 1370129988 188330 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1370129996 360836 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've seen that called that before. < 1370130028 915357 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: i think that way of formulating Reader and Writer (co)monads might interest you < 1370130040 617871 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it works for more categories < 1370130116 137665 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell zzo38 Interesting formulation of Reader and Writer (co)monads in http://stackoverflow.com/a/16552361 < 1370130116 384732 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1370130150 229239 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :?clear-messages < 1370130150 440305 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Messages cleared. < 1370130196 712547 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: let's hope nobody else had sent you messages < 1370130218 847770 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't care. < 1370130246 624723 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*gasp* < 1370130288 702807 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do know about that kind of reader/writer monads and the related comonads which use the other datatype, called env and trace. < 1370130314 66659 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: i was more pointing at the use of comonoid" < 1370130321 350755 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*"comonoid" < 1370130403 726341 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.141.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"--that is because CCCs are boring!" what's a CCC < 1370130415 762269 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :cartesian closed category, i think < 1370130435 584823 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :either that or cocartesian coclosed cocategory.................... < 1370130451 800513 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-56-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is coclosedness openness < 1370130468 341111 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is coclopenness clopenness < 1370130475 859541 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :also is that the most awkward word to spell of all words < 1370130477 285418 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-56-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1370130484 676175 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, yes you get that "CoMonoid" automatically and that is one way to do it, although you don't need. < 1370130499 25162 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.141.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is a cocartesian product a cartesian coproduct < 1370130509 636515 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically a category where Hom(A,B) is also an object, and you can do function applicationy things < 1370130557 266837 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: i was thinking that maybe it meant you could define the (co)monads more generally than in a ccc if you had comonoids < 1370130579 19646 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also can somebody explain the last part of the topic to me < 1370130593 754276 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.141.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so Hask is a CCC? < 1370130626 861066 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Maybe; I don't know. < 1370130627 854884 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl_: more or less. there might be something fishy about bottoms in there. < 1370130637 459523 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.141.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo bottom sucks < 1370130657 318149 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-56-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I swear I read an explanation about models as pertains to computability theory once < 1370130663 667919 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.141.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is () the terminal object in Hask < 1370130687 62380 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-56-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's actually (17,"Hello Wrold") but that's a common misconception < 1370130692 159349 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : is coclopenness clopenness <-- imo yes < 1370130709 935505 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imoerjan yes < 1370130714 782504 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.141.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: that's not an object in Hask!!! < 1370130733 878440 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-56-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :your mom isn't an object in hask < 1370130762 653377 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose lack of terminal objects is one thing that breaks ccc < 1370130767 284717 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-56-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: maybe you could have a model where the sum of all integers exist, and then have a turing machine that sums all integers. i dunno < 1370130773 619400 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it needs products too < 1370130806 720302 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: it's more subtle than that < 1370130814 713873 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.141.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Hask#Hask_is_not_Cartesian_closed ew < 1370130835 809664 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-56-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: thinking is hard < 1370130841 861696 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(->) has 0 as an initial object and () as final object. Therefore you can make the corresponding comonad/monad too. You also have a tensor category because it is (***). Actual programs in Haskell aren't so ideal, due to various reasons. < 1370130951 149031 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: the halting problem means there are TMs which zfc cannot prove whether they halt or not; by godel's completeness theorem there are ZFC models in which each are true statements. < 1370130965 370205 :elieser224!~elieser22@190.121.238.8 JOIN :#esoteric < 1370130971 31533 :elieser224!~elieser22@190.121.238.8 PART :#esoteric < 1370131117 35501 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: afaik that's both what i thought from before and what was recently discussed in the channel < 1370131163 368607 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although the channel discussions seemed to devolve into confusion about the meaning of truth and proof in this case