00:02:03 I hear shachaf keeps the man's systems up 00:02:20 hi 00:06:44 -!- Nisstyre has joined. 00:06:47 -!- Bike_ has joined. 00:09:19 -!- Bike has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 00:10:25 -!- Bike has joined. 00:13:25 -!- Bike_ has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 00:15:15 -!- elieser224 has joined. 00:23:06 * oerjan confused 00:23:39 `e 00:23:40 elieser224: ¿por qué con frecuencia altas y bajas? 00:24:48 is the ~ part of the actual pattern, i thought it was just a flag thing 00:25:11 -!- ChanServ has set channel mode: +o oerjan. 00:25:32 -!- oerjan has set channel mode: -b *!elieser22*@*. 00:25:41 -!- oerjan has set channel mode: +b *!*elieser22@*. 00:25:59 huh 00:26:19 seems you cannot have * both before and after 00:26:20 You might want another * there. 00:26:22 ? 00:26:30 You can't? 00:26:36 +o me, let me try 00:26:37 nope, it ignored it 00:26:44 NICE TRY 00:27:03 -!- oerjan has set channel mode: -o oerjan. 00:27:06 Huh, you're right. 00:27:40 i guess it's too much work to search inside a word 00:27:54 oerjan: What's with the NICE TRY business? 00:28:12 it's a very nice business 00:29:25 -!- elieser224 has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 00:39:42 well that's the first time they haven't parted 00:39:58 oerjan: what was missing was the ~ btw 00:40:00 not the first 00:41:49 kmc, what would you think of a Lisp that did that? 00:42:08 The (if (0 < 1) '(print "Hi") '(print "Bye")) thing, with if being a regular function 00:42:50 it's "common" pedantically to have like (if (< 0 1) (lambda () (print "Hi")) (lambda () (print "Bye"))) 00:43:11 but uh isn't smalltalk like that 00:43:23 i have used smalltalk never 00:43:49 In Smalltalk you pass around blocks, but those are actual functions, you can't really check out the source of the block 00:44:08 Your options are to evaluate (and possibly pass in arguments) or not 00:44:37 and... you'd rather have source code? 00:44:52 abstraction is the devil, Bike 00:45:11 Sure, because it means no need for macros with a separate macroexpansion phase 00:45:18 languages are meant to support cute metaprogramming hacks that are funny for 3 minutes because sgeo gets bored of languages before the total lack of meaningful semantics and uselessness and ripeness for abuse become relevant 00:45:33 Sgeo: like... smalltalk's macroexpansion phase?? 00:47:22 I'm glad I quit programming to take up listening to numbers stations 00:47:24 Smalltalk has no macros and nothing that particularly takes the place of macros niceny 00:47:28 nicely 00:47:36 ok but what the fuck does that have to do with quotation though? 00:47:43 and the... passy... thing 00:49:01 You can have a function that does any transform or execution that it likes on code that it receives. And you can preprocess code before giving it to such a function 00:49:31 And, with particular ways of thinking of symbols, you don't have to lose lexical scoping... I think 00:49:39 exactly what i've never particularly needed as core semantics. 00:49:41 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jy-zVlB4mvA 00:50:51 -!- Bike_ has joined. 00:50:51 -!- Bike_ has quit (Client Quit). 00:51:05 -!- Bike_ has joined. 00:54:01 -!- Bike has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 00:54:17 -!- Bike has joined. 00:56:25 -!- Bike_ has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 00:59:14 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: leaving). 01:11:01 -!- Bike has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 01:11:29 Just bought a prgmr ... thing 01:11:57 Well, started yesterday, paid today 01:12:47 -!- Bike has joined. 01:33:07 are you ircing from it 01:33:48 Sgeo: a Lisp that does that is very much like Kernel 01:34:02 and so I would say at minimum that when you define 'if' you need a way to bind the caller's lexical environment 01:35:35 `addquote I'm glad I quit programming to take up listening to numbers stations 01:35:39 1047) I'm glad I quit programming to take up listening to numbers stations 01:36:02 well. if if is just a normal function, and you're passing it quoted code blocks, the lexical environment you want those blocks executed in probably isn't just whoever's calling if. 01:36:14 if only there was some way to attach a lexical environment to a block of code. 01:36:23 Bike: are you familiar with how Kernel works? 01:36:29 yeah 01:36:48 I'm having some trouble thinking of whether the model I have in mind is in fact sufficient 01:36:50 so don't you think that in this case, 'if' will want to eval one of those two bits of code, in the caller's lexical environment? 01:36:58 the caller of if? 01:37:21 yeah, the environment that would be captured there if it were a lambda 01:37:38 the same env that's captured in your example with (lambda () ...) 01:37:50 that's what Kernel provides to an operative 01:37:56 what i mean is, sgeo's emphasis is on the arguments, i think whoever constructed the /arguments/ would want to control the caller there 01:38:38 control the environment, ugh headache sorry 01:38:54 ...I have a mental model for scoping, but that mental model doesn't actually match what Rebol does, so I may end up short-changing Rebol 01:39:02 shocker 01:39:15 blub blub blub 01:39:59 ok anyway: how do smalltalk blocks work again? it's like [ ...variables... | ...statements with ...variables... free... ] right? and do you call it with named arguments or what 01:40:10 Ok, I'll just describe my mental model, which Rebol can be coerced into, and we'll see what happens 01:40:17 go for it 01:41:45 Each symbol has an environment attached to it. A function that takes in a block can swap a symbol's environment for something else and/or modify it etc. So the caller of if can impose an environment over every symbol that it sees. Things inside that block, say, inside the if, when executed, can themselves impose a different environment on each word before evaling what they see 01:42:40 "word" and "symbol" are the same? 01:43:50 Yes. Well, Rebol calls them words, I wanted to call them symbols because we're going with the Lisp analogy 01:45:31 so would like, (eval symbol) look up the value of symbol in its environment, and return that value 01:46:05 Yes 01:47:35 the values totally exist in the environments, then, it's just delayed evaluation 01:48:36 Let me take a Rebol example and translate it into a Lispy syntax 01:48:41 -!- coppro_ has changed nick to coppro. 01:49:04 shachaf: https://www.quora.com/East-Palo-Alto-CA/What-good-pizza-places-deliver-to-East-Palo-Alto?srid=Q1&share=1 01:49:36 i could spend 390 Quora Bux to ask Charlie Cheever where to buy pizza in East Palo Alto 01:49:41 truly the sharing economy is upon us 01:49:59 does this question have no answer 01:51:30 Palo Alto, CA: Why has East Palo Alto not produced world famous rappers? 01:51:50 dj dotcom bubble 01:52:11 so the idea of quora is to make me kill myself by telling me to log in constantly right 01:52:15 yes 01:52:15 it's like fucking expert's exchange 01:52:20 you in particular 01:52:30 i guess it's experts plural not 's 01:52:33 possessive? that's the one 01:52:37 too many "s"es? fuck 01:52:46 experts' 01:53:02 How much of the conversations about East Palo Alto being "safe" just perceived or masked racism? 01:53:12 http://pastie.org/8007464 01:53:27 haha there are a lot of questions about whethery ou're going to get murdered in east palo alto here 01:53:43 alright sure what's use 01:54:02 Here, use scans for the symbols in the first list and sets all such symbols to their own scope. A bit like let I guess. (print xs) evals each thing in the list and prints 01:54:12 to their own... scope? 01:54:20 So it would print (12 9 "RELISP") 01:54:28 As in, a new environment created by that use 01:54:33 The upshot seems to be that you are still more likely to get shot in EPA than elsewhere 01:54:42 i remember in hexham once someone got shot 01:54:42 So each of those three x's are different 01:54:43 maybe two times 01:54:47 ok 01:54:55 kmc: is quora bux a thing............. 01:54:57 But each xs, since not rebound by use, refers to that global xs 01:54:59 why is it (append xs 'x) and not (append 'xs 'x) or (append xs x) 01:55:11 i have a friend who is moving to EPA and he claims it's fine other than terrible schools 01:55:17 also i don't want to think about parsing this. 01:55:33 It's not (append xs x) because you're not putting each value into xs, but the symbol 'x 01:55:34 kmc: uh it has no world class rappers 01:55:37 and he's not planning to have kids, and he's gay so it won't just happen by accident 01:55:44 he told me gay people are a gentrifying force for this reason 01:55:45 So xs contains three symbols, each is x, but each has a different environment 01:56:13 Maybe I should have said append!, since append! mutates its first argument 01:56:16 holy shit 01:56:22 so many fucking questions about whether east palo alto is dangerous 01:56:26 the thing in america where schools are funded by local property taxes produces tremendous inequality 01:56:28 Do I have to worry about my car being stolen in East Palo Alto? 01:56:28 3 01:56:29 Anonymous 01:56:29 very 01:56:41 so what advantage is there over, say, (set! xs (list (delay 12) (delay 9) (delay "MOTHER FUCK OF"))) 01:56:41 but then they tried to fix that in CA and the result was that rich people voted to never pay more property taxes ever 01:56:48 Although come to think of it 01:57:00 It should have been (set! 'x 12) etc 01:57:03 kmc: hey i got a funny story about that! 01:57:03 Not (set! x 12) 01:57:22 elliott: "Anonymous: very [Qualifications: I am a car thief in East Palo Alto]" 01:57:42 haha 01:57:44 i live in a rural area and everybody hates taxes and there was a vote to raise property taxes in a levy 01:57:56 and if it didn't pass, the district wouldn't have enough money to continue existing, and would dissolve! 01:58:05 it failed right 01:58:06 in which case, apparently, the state swoops down and redistricts everything 01:58:24 which would put everybody in nearby districts with higher taxes than the levy would raise them to! 01:58:40 basically what i'm saying is that i fucking hate where i live help 01:58:48 so did it pass in the end 01:59:06 yeah it actually did 01:59:11 makes sense 01:59:13 the latest one failed though, so there's been huge layoffs 01:59:25 they voted to have the worst possible schools that wouldn't be shut down by the state 01:59:53 when i told this to coworkers they didn't believe me, because that would be too fucking stupid. well, here we are, coworkers 02:00:22 hm i want to put this down to 'collective action is hard' but i think there's no individual incentive to defect, either 02:00:23 Bike: imo move to california hth 02:00:47 Can't they not raise taxes in Cali without a supermajority 02:01:58 also my parents grew up there and they told me about "smog days" so now i kind of slightly consider it Mordor even though that's dumb & also wrong. 02:02:42 can confirm that california is mordor 02:03:04 if the smog doesn't convince you consider the gigantic fiery eye that watches over it all, that's kind of a give-away 02:03:18 plus california somehow has like a trillion more disasters even though i can see like three active volcanos from my house?? 02:03:34 well in california they don't see the volcanoes 02:04:00 Bike: I think smog is a problem in LA area but not nearly so much in northern CA 02:04:04 i actually live within walking distance of a caldera and i'm pretty sure i'm safer than i'd be in california 02:04:07 in SF they just have fog with an f 02:04:12 which is better because it doesn't attack your lungs 02:04:17 kmc: yeah it's not as bad in the south as it was when they were kids anyway 02:04:21 yeah 02:04:27 CA got serious about emissions standards 02:04:33 which helped the whole country 02:04:34 New York City: What are the best places in NY for an existentialist solo traveller to go? 02:04:39 what the fuck makes a solo traveller "existentialist" 02:04:46 being pretentious as fuck 02:04:48 they're a clone of sartre 02:04:48 hth 02:04:57 "i can highly recommend this place for solo travellers, but ONLY IF THEY'rE EXISTENTIALISTS" 02:05:13 it has 1 answer: "A long night walk through the Bronx can be a challenge to your existence." 02:05:13 "The Existential Crisis"? 02:05:19 * Bike imagines Quora reviews of locales from Kafka stories 02:05:34 "lawkeeper wouldn't let me in, zero stars" 02:05:45 kmc: i keep forgetting that LA is in californi 02:05:45 a 02:05:52 i keep forgetting that LA is even in this universe 02:06:05 common mistake 02:06:37 Jesus: Why was Jesus crucified? 02:07:04 answer: [entire quoted text of summa theologica] 02:07:43 its because they wanted him to not be alive any more 02:08:48 about sums it up, you gotta admit 02:09:46 they wanted him to not be alive because they didnt like jesus 02:10:21 wow the summa theologica is three thousand pages 02:10:46 "wrong place, wrong time" 02:11:09 it's "summa" for a reason, man! 02:11:25 "summa theologica" as in "summa dat theologica" 02:11:53 yo pass me the theologica bro i got a good feeling about this drag 02:14:13 That theologica is some good shit. 02:14:26 I be seein' da holy ghost 02:17:06 itym i and i 02:18:02 kmc: are you back in bosstown 02:18:28 no, long layover at ORD 02:21:27 not very far out of the way, though: http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=SJC-ORD-BOS,SJC-BOS 02:39:06 elliott: should i become a world famous rapper 02:39:16 yes 02:39:25 oerjan: [[andor]] is still not fixed!!!!!!!!!!!!! 02:40:08 acting masta b 02:40:58 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 02:42:59 Phantom_Hoover: what are you doing joining here at 3:40 02:43:21 i have a brief respite from exams so fuck sleeping at reasonable hours 02:43:24 itym 19:40 hth 02:43:30 -!- Phantom__Hoover has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 02:43:34 hey kmc i need "drug opinions". 02:43:37 "Rehab is such a fucking joke I can't even mention it without the disclaimer that it's really not going to work at all. I know it's probably a shitty thing to say since for many people it is a last resort before death, but if anything will drive you to drug use it is rehab. Try to take a bunch of LSD or something, shit, just get off the damn heroin." 02:43:44 actually don't fuck sleeping at reasonable hours because i still feel guilty for being up at dawn 02:43:52 good thing to say to a heroin addict y/n 02:44:09 Phantom_Hoover: the great thing about i was going to go to bed early is, it's fucking light outside already 02:44:12 this fucking season 02:44:19 it wasn't even fully dark at 10 pm 02:44:28 ON THAT SUBJECT 02:44:41 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 02:45:55 elliott: move to san francisco hth 02:46:06 "where it's always dark"? 02:46:41 where it's always the place to be 02:46:58 Bike: not qualified to say, hth 02:47:01 good night fuckers 02:47:05 kmc: get addicted to heroin 02:47:07 darn 02:47:15 no u 02:47:55 #haskell-heroinaddicts 02:48:01 silly heroin addicts, always taking that heroin 02:48:16 shit, just get off the damn heroin, hth 02:48:17 i'm not addicted to heroin anymore, but i'm addicted to being addicted to heroin. so i'm having p. bad withdrawal right now 02:48:37 I’m addicted to shachaf’s heroin addiction. 02:48:54 ion: itym #cslounge-trainspotting hth 02:49:27 I mean #erlang-requiemforadream 02:50:22 a monad darkly 02:51:38 actually, a lens darkly, huh. 02:53:09 420 smoke substance d every day 02:53:31 * kmc → plane, again 02:53:39 splits your mind in two so you can blaze it twice as hard 02:53:45 snake → plane 03:05:44 The Clojure/West Racket video doesn't come out until September :( 03:06:03 is that a rap music video 03:36:07 -!- rntz has quit (Write error: Broken pipe). 03:36:15 -!- rntz has joined. 03:39:01 -!- ineiros has joined. 03:41:42 -!- ineiros_ has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 03:59:37 -!- myname has joined. 04:00:24 -!- lambdabot has joined. 04:32:49 I briefly forgot how to imperative 04:43:56 easy, always think about it like the whole program is a monad 04:44:38 I think the word "monad" should be banned. 04:44:55 for what reason? 04:45:37 -!- conehead has joined. 04:48:25 ...There's a proposal to add single-dispatch generic functions to Python 04:48:33 Isn't that pretty much the point of OO? 04:48:35 the way you just used it is nonsense myname 04:49:36 that is one reason 04:49:39 Although splitting out a separate 'generic function' mechanism allows said functions to be sanely namespaced 04:49:50 I wish OO languages namespaced their method names 04:50:25 how do you mean 04:51:05 foo.bar() if two modules have different meanings of .bar, and wanted to extend object to have .bar(), there's a conflict in most languages where that is possible 04:51:35 But if you do similar bar(foo) where bar is a generic function, no issue, because different bars from each module. 04:51:49 you're talking about, like, mixins? 04:51:50 So why not have in foo.bar() syntax the bar be namespaced 04:52:10 afk again, sorry 04:52:12 ttyl 05:04:36 -!- bobbers has joined. 05:05:21 -!- bobbers has quit (Client Quit). 05:14:26 -!- ehaliewicz has joined. 05:15:07 i feel like writing a compiler for a small esoteric language 05:15:09 any ideas? 05:20:23 Eodermdrome 05:23:41 i should have figured you guys wouldn't make it easy 05:23:59 the fuck is this 05:24:36 is this the fuck 05:24:43 yes 05:25:59 it is 05:43:09 -!- epicmonkey has joined. 05:49:56 -!- oklofok has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 05:50:34 ehaliewicz: well Brainfuck was designed primarily to admit very simple compilers 05:50:58 in fact I don't think it was explicitly designed to be unusual or difficult to program in, so it might not count as a true esolang 05:51:16 that was a quick plane ride 05:51:41 it was more of a car ride 05:53:27 -!- ehaliewicz has left ("ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)"). 05:54:07 -!- Jafet has joined. 05:54:43 epicmonkey: how about befunge? 05:54:52 did you drive for two hours to the airport 05:55:04 they left, myname 05:55:49 oh 05:57:33 they'll fungepile another day 05:58:20 Bike Bike B i k e 05:58:26 tell me a story 05:59:08 hm, what's a story. 06:01:01 One day God made an infinite number of worlds, each with an infinite number of people who were all infinitely happy. They all lived happily for infinite time. 06:01:04 Not a ery good story. 06:01:38 p. good story 06:01:42 but infinity is too hard for me 06:02:11 can you try 3↑↑↑↑↑3 instead 06:02:45 -!- epicmonkey has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 06:03:03 Yeah, sure. 06:03:15 go on, tell it 06:03:41 Once upon a time, technology among people advanced to the point where they could form and dissolve social connections among each other with just a thought. 06:04:12 Lots and lots of friendships dissolved and formed throughout the throngs of humanity every millisecond. There were so many people and so much talking that nobody would be able to keep track of it. 06:05:42 People tried, though. They used visualization software that drew negative relationships like hatred or alimony as red, and positive relationships like love or appreciation as blue. 06:06:36 But before finding a group that was entirely filled with mutual hate or mutual love, I got bored and found it in porn intead. The end. 06:09:38 you found mutual hate in porn? 06:10:59 more likely than love in porn 06:14:31 well, on professional porn at least 06:28:29 -!- sebbu2 has joined. 06:29:33 -!- sebbu has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 06:49:59 Bike: starting your story with a deus ex machina is usually considered in poor form 06:50:41 are you arguing with the genius of euripides 06:58:51 -!- epicmonkey has joined. 07:05:03 There once was a guy called Euripides, who wrote some pretty tragic stories. People tried to get him to write happier stories, but he would not change no matter what they did. Finally, a god descended from the rigging and put happy endings in his stories. The end. 07:06:18 limerick? 07:07:29 i miss the limerickdb 07:33:58 kmc: There once was a guy called Euripides who wrote many watery tragedies. His style, he defended, until god descended and forced him to write divine remedies. 07:34:27 * kmc claps 07:57:57 -!- nooga has joined. 08:08:34 -!- yonkie_ has joined. 08:11:18 -!- yonkie__ has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 08:24:45 -!- sebbu2 has changed nick to sebbu. 08:33:39 -!- Lymia has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 08:44:55 -!- Taneb has joined. 08:47:05 -!- Lymia has joined. 09:13:52 -!- DHeadshot has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 09:13:58 -!- DH____ has joined. 09:20:03 how do people just pop out limericks like that? I seem to be lacking that skill 09:22:00 -!- DH____ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 09:22:06 -!- DHeadshot has joined. 09:24:03 There was a chap from Scandinavia/Who didn't have any poetic behaviour/So online he complained/And helpfulness reigned/Taneb became his limerick saviour 09:25:39 There should be an esoteric language where the only valid code is limericks 09:25:43 Anything else is a compiler error 09:25:55 A Swede who was in #esoteric / Thought his rhymes were a little generic. / "I might use in my prose / Multiocular 'O's / But my poems are alphanumeric." 09:27:09 shachaf wins this round 09:27:22 shachaf wins all rounds 09:27:26 unless multiocular o has appeared in limericks before, that might change things 09:27:43 ꙮ 09:28:16 A Swede who was in #esoteric / Thought his rhymes were a little generic. / "I might use in my prose / ꙮ's / But my poems are alphanumeric." 09:28:33 I should've gone for it. 09:28:37 yes 09:29:38 There should be a game where you tell us things to write limericks about and we write them! 09:29:44 And they have to be really bad. 09:30:14 -!- glogbackup has quit (*.net *.split). 09:30:14 -!- tswett has quit (*.net *.split). 09:30:14 -!- hogeyui____ has quit (*.net *.split). 09:30:14 -!- copumpkin has quit (*.net *.split). 09:30:14 -!- aloril has quit (*.net *.split). 09:30:33 maybe someone already did that and called it #esoteric? 09:30:44 Perhaps life is one big limerick. 09:30:53 -!- hogeyui____ has joined. 09:30:54 -!- copumpkin has joined. 09:30:54 -!- aloril has joined. 09:30:54 -!- tswett has joined. 09:30:54 easy, always thing about it like the whole program is a limerick 09:31:00 s/g/k/ 09:35:19 a limerick esolang can't be a new idea... has really no-one already done it? 09:41:37 MULTIÖCULAR O is my secret weapon. 09:43:43 Have you ever read Lear's limericks? 09:44:27 I am not quite sure how to enjoy them 09:45:33 ꙮ̈ 09:46:36 perhaps you could enjoy them multiocularly? 09:47:10 Is 2 enough? 09:47:39 no, two is not multi enough 09:48:00 insufficientocularly 09:48:34 I'm afraid that I am inoculated. 10:05:47 -!- sacje has quit (Quit: sacje). 10:25:50 -!- conehead has quit (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.). 10:33:29 -!- tswett_ has joined. 10:40:13 -!- tswett has quit (*.net *.split). 10:40:13 -!- hogeyui____ has quit (*.net *.split). 10:40:13 -!- copumpkin has quit (*.net *.split). 10:40:13 -!- aloril has quit (*.net *.split). 10:40:55 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 10:42:04 -!- sebbu2 has joined. 10:42:13 -!- sebbu has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 10:45:05 -!- hogeyui____ has joined. 10:45:05 -!- copumpkin has joined. 10:45:05 -!- aloril has joined. 10:57:45 -!- yonkie_ has quit (Quit: Leaving). 11:08:02 http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2006/feb/04/2 11:08:08 OK wow 11:08:14 the CIA are a bunch of idiots 11:20:12 -!- sebbu has joined. 11:20:37 -!- sebbu2 has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 11:23:06 -!- Taneb has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 11:24:46 -!- Taneb has joined. 11:29:09 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 11:38:03 -!- nooga has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 11:47:30 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 12:08:31 -!- nooga_ has joined. 12:12:50 -!- oklopol has joined. 12:30:46 -!- hogeyui____ has quit (*.net *.split). 12:30:46 -!- copumpkin has quit (*.net *.split). 12:30:47 -!- aloril has quit (*.net *.split). 12:34:20 -!- hogeyui____ has joined. 12:34:20 -!- copumpkin has joined. 12:34:20 -!- aloril has joined. 12:42:07 -!- tertu has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 12:42:30 -!- tertu has joined. 12:44:38 -!- oerjan has joined. 12:55:16 -!- boily has joined. 12:58:26 -!- nooga_ has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 13:06:46 shachaf: i have no idea where this [[andor]] you are referring to is 13:07:06 wikipedia has And/or, and wiktionary refers to the swedish word 13:07:10 oerjan, It's got a forast moon 13:07:21 Taneb: wat 13:07:43 The Forast Moon of Andor 13:08:09 however, clearly metasepia should use ~andor for its swedish searches 13:08:25 -!- ChanServ has set channel mode: +o oerjan. 13:08:25 -!- iamcal___ has joined. 13:08:38 -!- oerjan has kicked Taneb There has to be limits. 13:08:42 -!- oerjan has set channel mode: -o oerjan. 13:09:04 -!- metasepia has joined. 13:09:40 ~andor surströmming 13:09:40 --- Possible commands: dice, duck, echo, eval, fortune, metar, ping, yi 13:09:44 oerjan: you should op me!! 13:09:45 -!- Taneb has joined. 13:09:46 Phantom_Hoover: amazing 13:09:56 ~andor surströmming 13:09:56 --- Possible commands: dice, duck, echo, eval, fortune, metar, ping, yi 13:10:11 why is metasepia here when boily isn't 13:10:17 uhm. I am. 13:10:22 oh 13:10:38 good, then you can get working on implementing the swedish search hth 13:11:26 when I'll get unsick again. yesterday I was spontaneously losing weight, and today I have low blood pressure. 13:11:45 i'll come to your funeral 13:11:58 i guess weight loss that you notice in a single day is rather serious. 13:12:05 you'll have to come to... Canada ♪ (with a scare chord) 13:12:20 oerjan: nothing that I couldn't unstomach. 13:12:23 If I lost weight, I'd... 13:12:28 be in serious trouble 13:12:49 ~eval 60 * 2.2 13:12:49 thin as a stick, that's Taneb 13:12:49 Error (1): 13:12:51 ~eval 60 * 2.2 13:12:51 Error (1): 13:13:01 what the stupid dammit aaaaargh! 13:13:12 > 60 * 2.2 13:13:26 `eval 60 * 2.2 13:13:31 ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: eval: not found 13:13:34 *sigh* 13:13:38 -!- iamcal__ has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 13:13:38 -!- iamcal___ has changed nick to iamcal__. 13:13:50 `run ghc -e '60 * 2.2' 13:13:56 132.0 13:14:20 thanks. 13:14:39 (meanwhile, the reason that cephalopod isn't coöperative: mueval-core: /usr/lib/ghc-7.6.2/settings: openFile: does not exist (No such file or directory)) 13:14:52 ~eval "poulet" 13:14:52 Error (1): Could not find module `Math.Gamma' 13:14:52 Use -v to see a list of the files searched for. 13:15:07 ~eval "poulet" 13:15:08 Error (1): Could not find module `Data.Numbers.Primes' 13:15:08 Use -v to see a list of the files searched for. 13:15:16 ~eval "poulet" 13:15:16 Error (1): Could not find module `Crypto.PBKDF2' 13:15:16 Use -v to see a list of the files searched for. 13:15:35 you'll have to come to... Canada ♪ (with a scare chord) <-- i am not sure that singing canada with a scare chord is possible hth 13:17:23 oh wait chords are for instruments 13:17:56 on of our best humorists demonstrated that in fact, you can't lest you break your instrument. 13:18:08 ooh 13:18:13 in a sketch that involved zombies and a cellist in a closet. 13:18:24 s/^on/one/ 13:18:42 this is clearly important information 13:19:19 ~eval "poulet" 13:19:20 "poulet" 13:19:28 at last! 13:19:59 ~eval "kyckling" 13:20:00 "kyckling" 13:20:13 ~eval "tamhöna" 13:20:14 "tamh\246na" 13:20:17 meh. 13:20:20 -!- nooga has joined. 13:21:05 ~eval "hello" & ix 3 .~ 'z' 13:21:08 Error (1): 13:21:16 ~eval "hello" & ix 3 .~ 'z' 13:21:17 "helzo" 13:21:48 wat 13:22:02 oerjan: black magic. 13:22:24 also fix that Error (1): stuff hth 13:24:37 -!- tromp_ has joined. 13:24:43 -!- augur_ has joined. 13:28:21 -!- lifthras1ir has joined. 13:29:04 -!- quintopi1 has joined. 13:30:43 -!- augur has quit (*.net *.split). 13:30:49 -!- ggherdov has quit (*.net *.split). 13:30:49 -!- quintopia has quit (*.net *.split). 13:30:49 -!- lifthrasiir has quit (*.net *.split). 13:30:49 -!- tromp has quit (*.net *.split). 13:30:49 -!- Tod-Autojoined has quit (*.net *.split). 13:30:49 -!- olsner has quit (*.net *.split). 13:31:00 -!- yiyus has joined. 13:31:21 ~eval read "3" :: Int 13:31:22 3 13:33:02 -!- nooodl has joined. 13:33:31 oerjan: I just remembered, I have a github repo for that aquatic creature. https://github.com/pfcuttle/metasepia 13:33:54 for any complaint, suggestion and other disagreements, you can issue. 13:34:27 132.0 13:34:30 -!- oklopol has quit (Ping timeout: 254 seconds). 13:34:30 -!- yiyus_ has quit (Ping timeout: 254 seconds). 13:34:57 github, killing complaints since 20something 13:35:20 lambdabot: you are slow hth 13:36:26 ~help 13:36:26 --- Possible commands: dice, duck, echo, eval, fortune, metar, ping, yi 13:37:08 -!- clog has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 13:37:09 -!- nooga has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 13:37:20 -!- Tod-Autojoined has joined. 13:37:20 -!- olsner has joined. 13:37:59 -!- nooga has joined. 13:38:13 -!- clog has joined. 13:38:30 -!- Frooxius_ has joined. 13:39:05 everything is opless! 13:39:13 (see global notice) 13:39:24 oo 13:40:32 eh? 13:40:49 boily: I wish it had the actual source code 13:40:50 -!- Frooxius has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 13:40:51 -!- jconn has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 13:40:51 -!- atehwa has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 13:41:01 -!- atehwa has joined. 13:41:20 -!- pikhq_ has joined. 13:41:22 -!- FreeFull has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 13:41:34 -!- FreeFull has joined. 13:41:52 -!- pikhq has quit (Write error: Broken pipe). 13:43:26 -!- quintopia has joined. 13:43:28 Meow 13:43:59 -!- quintopi1 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 13:44:55 FreeFull, feles es? 13:44:55 FreeFull: I need to rewrite everything. I can send you the original archive if you'd like to have a peek. 13:45:36 -!- Phantom__Hoover has joined. 13:45:51 ~eval Phantom__Hoover 13:45:51 Error (1): Not in scope: data constructor `Phantom__Hoover' 13:46:06 ~eval data P = Phantom__Hoover 13:46:06 Error (1): :1:1: parse error on input `data' 13:46:17 Aw 13:46:34 I know. 13:46:38 ~eval putStrLn "3" 13:46:45 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 13:46:47 Waait 13:46:49 Did that actualy work 13:46:58 that shouldn't. 13:47:09 that really shouldn't have worked. I'm disturbed here. 13:47:22 >:D 13:47:33 oh, nothing bad. he just splitted. 13:49:14 > error "3" 13:49:15 *Exception: 3 13:49:28 -!- Phantom__Hoover has changed nick to Guest31779. 13:49:28 -!- quintopia has changed nick to Guest34689. 13:49:28 -!- FreeFull has changed nick to Guest65081. 13:49:35 :o 13:49:54 -!- Guest65081 has quit (Changing host). 13:49:54 -!- Guest65081 has joined. 13:50:10 -!- Guest65081 has changed nick to FreeFull. 13:51:27 I really wish I could filter the output of :browse somehow 13:52:05 > fail "3" 13:52:07 No instance for (GHC.Show.Show (m0 a0)) 13:52:07 arising from a use of `M66788873... 13:52:15 > fail "3" :: IO a 13:52:16 No instance for (GHC.Show.Show (GHC.Types.IO a0)) 13:52:16 arising from a use of ... 13:52:22 Ok 13:52:26 Wait 13:52:31 ~eval fail "3" :: IO a 13:52:58 -!- elliott_ has joined. 13:54:28 -!- metasepia has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 13:55:19 ~eval iterate id 0 13:55:26 Oh, it's gone 13:55:33 I wonder if I did that :D 13:55:38 boily: Was it me? 13:56:05 one squid down, millions to go 13:56:25 -!- elliott has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 13:56:54 -!- elliott_ has changed nick to elliott. 14:03:33 -!- nooga has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 14:06:29 -!- sebbu has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 14:07:47 -!- sivoais has joined. 14:13:52 -!- tswett_ has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 14:14:44 -!- tswett has joined. 14:14:44 -!- tswett has quit (Changing host). 14:14:44 -!- tswett has joined. 14:14:52 -!- sivoais has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 14:17:04 -!- Guest31779 has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 14:17:48 -!- sivoais has joined. 14:19:12 FreeFull: just a moment, rebooting the calamari... 14:19:20 -!- metasepia has joined. 14:19:32 ~eval "鶏" 14:19:32 "\40335" 14:19:50 ~eval fail "3" 14:19:51 Error (1): No instance for (GHC.Show.Show (m0 a0)) 14:19:51 arising from a use of `M2019754395415980596.show_M2019754395415980596' 14:19:51 The type variables `m0', `a0' are ambiguous 14:19:51 Possible fix: add a type signature that fixes these type variable(s) 14:19:51 Note: there are several potential instances: 14:19:51 instance (GHC.Real.Integral a, GHC.Show.Show a) => 14:19:51 GHC.Show.Show (GHC.Real.Ratio a) 14:19:52 -- Defined in `base:GHC.Real' 14:19:52 instance (GHC.Show.Show a, GHC.Show.Show b) => GHC.Show.Show (a, b) 14:19:53 -- Defined in `base:GHC.Show' 14:19:53 instance (GHC.Show.Show a, GHC.Show.Show b, GHC.Show.Show c) => 14:19:54 GHC.Show.Show (a, b, c) 14:20:03 you didn't see nothing. 14:20:07 You should probably cull the output 14:20:21 ~eval fail "3" :: IO a 14:20:21 Error (1): No instance for (GHC.Show.Show (GHC.Types.IO a0)) 14:20:22 arising from a use of `M2146710962901742287.show_M2146710962901742287' 14:20:22 Possible fix: 14:20:22 add an instance declaration for (GHC.Show.Show (GHC.Types.IO a0)) 14:20:25 I think that's the most pressing urging important issue right now. 14:20:33 and no, no IO, you vile hacker that you are. 14:20:50 ~eval 1 2 3 14:20:50 Error (1): Could not deduce (GHC.Num.Num 14:20:50 (GHC.Integer.Type.Integer -> GHC.Integer.Type.Integer -> t)) 14:20:50 arising from the ambiguity check for `e_1123' 14:20:50 from the context (GHC.Num.Num (a -> a1 -> t), 14:20:50 GHC.Num.Num a, 14:20:51 GHC.Num.Num a1) 14:20:51 bound by the inferred type for `e_1123': 14:20:52 -!- jsvine has joined. 14:20:52 (GHC.Num.Num (a -> a1 -> t), GHC.Num.Num a, GHC.Num.Num a1) => t 14:20:52 at :(2,54)-(3,5) 14:20:53 Possible fix: 14:20:53 add an instance declaration for 14:20:54 (GHC.Num.Num 14:20:54 (GHC.Integer.Type.Integer -> GHC.Integer.Type.Integer -> t))No instance for (GHC.Show.Show a0) 14:20:55 arising from a use of `M3112136935042015385.show_M3112136935042015385' 14:24:14 -!- sivoais has quit (Quit: leaving). 14:27:46 -!- ssue__ has joined. 14:28:57 -!- rntz^2_ has joined. 14:29:43 -!- clog_ has joined. 14:30:27 -!- ssue_ has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 14:30:27 -!- rntz has quit (Ping timeout: 240 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15:01:46 is this some kind of jon ronson affair where you hang out and try not to be confrontational so you can get a goldmine of weirdness for the public to point and laugh at 15:01:46 WELL IS IT 15:03:36 Not intentionally, at least. 15:04:23 ~yi 15:04:23 Your divination: "Treading" to "Arguing" 15:04:28 eek, i just edited [[Jesus]]... 15:04:46 that's what ronson would say! 15:04:53 ~duck ronson 15:04:54 --- No relevant information 15:04:58 ~duck jon ronson 15:04:58 Jon Ronson is a British journalist, documentary filmmaker, radio presenter and nonfiction author, whose works include The Men Who Stare at Goats. 15:05:06 oh, him! 15:05:30 if I'm being stared at, I think I'm not a goat. 15:06:04 oerjan: you tempt me to start inserting "Issac Newton" in random Wikipedia pages 15:06:44 eek 15:06:45 "The Twenty-first Amendment (Amendment XXI) to the United Issac Newton States Constitution repealed the Eighteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution" 15:07:12 oerjan: i like how you left the "newton" lowercase in http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Timeline_of_scientific_experiments&diff=prev&oldid=557022110 15:07:34 IsSaC nEwToN 15:07:39 oh i did? 15:08:21 i knew editing Jesus was bad luck, now hexhammers are stalking me 15:09:29 fixum 15:09:55 -!- augur_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 15:12:57 Taneb: i suspect that might backfire hth 15:12:57 -!- nooga has joined. 15:13:35 I'm sure I don't know what you are talking about 15:14:20 OKAY 15:17:27 http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2006/mar/25/weekend.jonronson (i apologise to jsvine for earlier taking out my ronsonmania on him) 15:19:30 -!- FreeFull_ has changed nick to FreeFull. 15:19:51 -!- sacje has joined. 15:22:58 i guess today's xkcd was inevitable. 15:24:02 -!- jconn has joined. 15:25:07 -!- ggherdov has joined. 15:25:39 -!- sebbu has joined. 15:25:50 oerjan: i don't get it :( 15:26:15 It's a reference to the Abbot and Costello sketch "Who's on first" 15:26:28 -!- rodgort` has quit 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the logbots are here 17:20:46 well duh 17:21:48 that just means they're not logging fungot 17:22:39 maybe fungot will use the opportunity to reach the singularity. 17:24:00 next up: achieving sentience through botlops 17:24:08 *+o 17:24:23 also *sapience 17:25:20 yesterday pressing the random button got me to http://www.reddit.com/r/dogswitheyebrows 17:27:06 -!- Guest34689 has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 17:29:31 -!- Bike_ has joined. 17:29:47 `run echo is the backquote bot still alive? 17:29:49 is the backquote bot still alive? 17:30:20 `? ` 17:30:22 ​`? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 17:30:53 `learn botlops are the core of botsentiences. Sapience is scheduled for the next release. 17:30:57 I knew that. 17:31:05 `learn ` is the prefix to greatness. 17:31:09 I knew that. 17:31:12 `? ` 17:31:14 ​` is the prefix to greatness. 17:31:19 -!- Bike has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 17:31:28 ~ is better than `. 17:31:28 --- Possible commands: dice, duck, echo, eval, fortune, metar, ping, yi 17:31:37 boily: um are you preserving my typo on purpose 17:31:48 oerjan: which one? :p 17:32:07 "lop" 17:32:13 botlops and body weigh 17:32:22 the #esoteric story 17:32:54 * oerjan recalls the hings of #initgame of yore 17:33:15 @wn yore 17:33:16 *** "yore" wn "WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)" 17:33:16 yore 17:33:16 n 1: time long past 17:34:15 ~duck yore 17:34:15 yore definition: time past and especially long past usually used in the phrase of yore. 17:35:07 `thanks test 17:35:09 Thanks, test. Thest. 17:35:30 `thanks nooodl 17:35:32 Thanks, nooodl. Thooodl. 17:35:59 `thanks thanks 17:36:01 Thanks, thanks. Thanks. 17:36:09 `thanks Tchaikovsky 17:36:10 Thanks, Tchaikovsky. Thaikovsky. 17:36:32 `thanks a 17:36:34 Thanks, a. Tha. 17:36:34 `thanks Mgrvgrvladje 17:36:36 Thanks, Mgrvgrvladje. Thadje. 17:36:55 muh-guhrv-*choke* 17:37:17 boily: be sure to make it just two syllables hth 17:37:19 `thanks q 17:37:21 Thanks, q. Th. 17:37:23 th 17:38:05 nick Bike 17:38:09 awesome. 17:38:11 -!- Bike_ has changed nick to Bike. 17:38:18 msg nickserv identify bikeluvr2013 17:38:27 bick nike 17:39:32 anyone of you tried playing DDEE? I seem to have trouble surviving, which is quite contrary to the Goal of the Character Build. 17:39:58 boily: you totally fuck up my #esoteric vs. ##crawl senses on a regular basis 17:40:02 especially given that they are adjacent in irssi 17:40:51 boily: use my 14 runer guide 17:41:00 * boily whistles innocently ♪ 17:41:08 nooodl: ah? you have one? 17:41:16 1. play crawl 2. dont do tomb 3. win 17:41:23 v. effective "ask elliott" 17:41:24 unfortunately henzell isnt here so i have to paste this manually 17:41:25 18:41:09 ??dd guide 17:41:25 18:41:10 dd guide[1/1]: Worship Makhleb. Use the wand of heal wounds to heal. If it runs out of charges, recharge it. 17:41:54 anyway this advice sounds really stupid but 17:41:57 reddit is creaking :( 17:42:21 try not to get hit?? like be careful about losing any hp at all early on 17:42:24 but I like tomb. that sense of complete, utterless feeling of mediocrity, of impending doom... it is invigorating! 17:42:56 nooodl: I think that's it. I used to play DDNe some time ago, and when you hit vampiric draining, everything goes smooth afterwards. 17:43:04 there's something nasty in this game, but i cannot quite put my tomb on it 17:43:23 yeah, here it's like that except "when you start gaining hp from makhleb" 17:45:06 i also suggest not playing dd because it's no fun 17:46:46 I had my SpEn victory from 2011, I did a MiFi two weeks ago, and now I want to achieve something different. 17:47:20 I tried skald. I died. then I deceased. then I not lived. then I died again, but more painfully. 17:55:06 -!- epicmonkey has joined. 18:01:05 -!- jsvine has joined. 18:03:04 huh 18:03:53 I can't even ascend in (Un)Brogue 18:04:18 I'm afraid to try other, more complex roguelikes 18:04:35 brogue is better than crawl tbh 18:17:58 oh, and speaking of limericks, http://i.imgur.com/4J7Il0m.jpg 18:18:44 ~eval "tamhöna" <-- that means something like domesticated hen, hth 18:19:50 (chicken is "kyckling" and no-one bothers asking where they come from) 18:20:12 olsner: that's what Wiki says, and verily the Word of Wiki is the Truth. 18:20:26 olsner: you could read a few lines up in the log hth 18:20:29 oerjan: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andor , which says "logical conjunctio", hth 18:22:49 oerjan: not presently helping, hth 18:23:19 there was a line about kyckling just above the one about tamhöna, but that doesn't imply boily knows anything 18:25:25 but, but... tamhöna has a superb diæresis... 18:27:06 half the rest of the words in swedish do as well and no-one even cares :P 18:27:28 tamḧona 18:27:43 taaahmhoenah 18:29:02 or perhaps tawmhoenah 18:36:28 boily: i don't think it's a "diæresis" if it isn't used to split a diphthong into vowels, then it's an umlaut instead hth 18:37:16 oerjan: goöd point. 18:40:54 shachaf: there is no missing n at the end of "conjunction" hth 18:41:24 there's a problem of terminology though... 18:41:59 oerjan: the missing n was my fault hth 18:42:09 but the word conjunction was not hth 18:42:31 kmc: did you see the limerick from earlier 18:42:42 which one 18:42:58 shachaf: better now? 18:43:06 A Swede who was in #esoteric / Thought his rhymes were a little generic. / "I might use, in my prose, / ꙮs, / But my poems are alphanumeric." 18:43:32 oerjan: um, maybe 18:43:36 i don't know about grammar 18:43:40 that's wonderful 18:43:56 that's so good 18:44:17 although I must point out that ꙮ is indeed a Letter, Other character 18:44:58 poetic license etc. 18:45:35 :) 18:46:00 i love this limerick 18:46:14 i don't know about grammar <-- ok perhaps it's good you don't edit wikipedia then. 18:46:31 oerjan: see, it's selfless 18:46:50 > reverse "selfless" 18:46:51 "sselfles" 18:47:06 > sort "selfless" 18:47:07 "eefllsss" 18:47:14 -!- hagb4rd has quit (Quit: hagb4rd). 18:47:15 > sort "abelian" 18:47:17 "aabeiln" 18:47:19 > permutations "selfless" 18:47:20 ["selfless","eslfless","lesfless","elsfless","lsefless","slefless","flesles... 18:47:37 -!- hagb4rd has joined. 18:47:40 selfless in flesland 18:49:32 wow wikipedia is full of evil prescriptivists 18:49:44 imo only good prescriptivists should be allowed 18:49:51 word 18:49:52 the horror 18:50:00 Yike 18:50:13 euprescriptivists? 18:50:22 you should never end a sentence a preposition with 18:50:49 `thanks shachaf 18:50:50 Thanks, shachaf. Thachaf. 18:51:00 to endeavor never an infinitive split 18:51:04 `thanks kmc 18:51:06 the prepositions, up in which, your sentences never shall end 18:51:06 use postposition for that issue 18:51:06 Thanks, kmc. Th. 18:51:29 `cat bin/thanks 18:51:30 ​#!/bin/sh \ echo $1 | sed 's/^[^aeiou]*\(.*\)/Thanks, \0. Th\1./' 18:51:37 (all of them, they are) 18:52:34 i'm gonna IMPROVe it hold on 18:52:36 nooodl: plz sed -i 's/\$1/"$@"/' bin/thanks # hth 18:53:09 its gonna be even better 18:53:43 -!- sebbu2 has joined. 18:55:17 -!- sebbu3 has joined. 18:57:00 -!- sebbu has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 18:58:03 -!- sebbu2 has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 18:58:11 -!- Guest20365 has quit (Changing host). 18:58:11 -!- Guest20365 has joined. 18:58:13 -!- Guest20365 has changed nick to function. 18:58:33 `smlist 18:58:35 smlist: shachaf monqy elliott mnoqy 18:58:38 @ask mnoqy `smlist 18:58:38 Consider it noted. 19:00:05 -mno-key ... I wonder what that does, if anything 19:03:06 it plays a song _very_ badly hth 19:03:59 perhaps it is a forbidden note hth 19:04:00 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLy-AwdCOmI Like this. 19:04:41 spooky 19:05:36 now i feel awful 19:06:40 -!- FreeFull has quit (Quit: rebooting). 19:07:25 `fetch http://bpaste.net/raw/uYWFUgW0diLjGj2EYiKV/ 19:07:28 2013-06-05 19:07:27 URL:http://bpaste.net/raw/uYWFUgW0diLjGj2EYiKV/ [133/133] -> "index.html" [1] 19:07:32 `mv index.html bin/thanks 19:07:34 mv: missing destination file operand after `index.html bin/thanks' \ Try `mv --help' for more information. 19:07:45 `run mv index.html bin/thanks 19:07:48 No output. 19:07:50 `run chmod +x bin/thanks 19:07:54 No output. 19:07:56 `thanks nooodl 19:07:57 Thanks, nooodl. Thooodl. 19:08:02 Fancy. 19:08:04 `thanks kmc 19:08:06 Thanks, kmc. Tmc. 19:08:11 :) 19:08:11 nailed it. 19:08:14 `thanks 19:08:18 Thanks, pilent \ . Thilent \ . 19:08:22 `thanks 19:08:25 `thanks Purple people eater 19:08:26 Thanks, strek \ . Thek \ . 19:08:27 Thanks, Purple people eater. Thurple people eater. 19:08:31 oh it needs a chomp 19:09:41 `run sed -i 's/words`/words`.chomp/' bin/thanks 19:09:45 No output. 19:09:49 `thanks 19:09:53 Thanks, brotoh \ 0. Thotoh \ 0. 19:09:58 help 19:10:00 I like it this way. 19:10:03 HELPp 19:10:13 Where is it even getting those 19:10:18 `words 19:10:19 Thanks, brotoh \ 0. Thotoh \ 0. 19:10:21 elliott: a sign of the crapocalypse 19:10:22 shmee 19:10:23 here 19:10:33 `paste bin/words 19:10:36 http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/bin/words 19:11:09 -!- FreeFull has joined. 19:12:23 `paste bin/thanks 19:12:26 http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/bin/thanks 19:12:49 `words 19:12:53 zevigita 19:12:55 `words 19:12:58 govent 19:13:14 are these actual words or markov thingies 19:13:19 i can't tell :') 19:13:31 markov, i'm pretty certain 19:13:37 `words 19:13:41 rat 19:13:44 `words 19:13:48 untradiak 19:13:48 clever, hackego 19:14:28 rat 19:14:29 `run for i in {1..10}; do words; done 19:14:39 itym `words 10 hth 19:14:50 koj \ incir \ manlzeil \ cial \ sda \ eynotique \ hirto \ dualuminue \ perfule \ truko 19:14:54 how does `words`.chomp work in perl 19:15:04 thought . was concat operator................ 19:15:11 omg im dumb 19:15:18 :'-} 19:15:24 but smiling 19:16:00 `fetch http://bpaste.net/raw/cvYcEn3Sfi9wZ4cOjCIi/ 19:16:03 2013-06-05 19:16:02 URL:http://bpaste.net/raw/cvYcEn3Sfi9wZ4cOjCIi/ [139/139] -> "index.html" [1] 19:16:06 `run mv index.html bin/thanks 19:16:09 No output. 19:16:10 `run chmod +x bin/thanks 19:16:14 No output. 19:16:14 `thanks 19:16:16 Can't modify quoted execution (``, qx) in chomp at /hackenv/bin/thanks line 2, near "`words`;" \ Execution of /hackenv/bin/thanks aborted due to compilation errors. 19:16:21 `cat bin/thanks 19:16:23 ​#!/usr/bin/perl \ $_ = $ARGV[0] || chomp `words`; print "Thanks, $_. "; if (/[aeiouy]/) { s/^[^aeiouy]*/Th/; } else { s/^./T/; } print "$_."; 19:16:24 excellent 19:16:48 -!- Phantom__Hoover has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 19:17:09 `run sed -i 's/ `words`/(`words`)/' bin/thanks 19:17:13 No output. 19:17:17 `thanks 19:17:19 Can't modify quoted execution (``, qx) in chomp at /hackenv/bin/thanks line 2, near "`words`)" \ Execution of /hackenv/bin/thanks aborted due to compilation errors. 19:17:25 -!- Phantom__Hoover has joined. 19:17:25 -!- Phantom__Hoover has quit (Changing host). 19:17:25 -!- Phantom__Hoover has joined. 19:17:39 fucking perl 19:18:33 -!- ggherdov has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 19:19:41 `fetch http://bpaste.net/raw/ozchapci5TyVmaI8l97S/ 19:19:43 `run mv index.html bin/thanks 19:19:43 2013-06-05 19:19:42 URL:http://bpaste.net/raw/ozchapci5TyVmaI8l97S/ [149/149] -> "index.html" [1] 19:19:45 `run chmod +x bin/thanks 19:19:47 No output. 19:19:48 `thanks 19:19:50 No output. 19:19:51 -!- Vorpal has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 19:19:54 Thanks, trommm. Thommm. 19:19:58 -!- Vorpal_ has joined. 19:19:59 wowwwwwww 19:19:59 good 19:20:08 `thanks thinks 19:20:09 Thanks, thinks. Thinks. 19:20:13 `thanks HackEgo 19:20:15 Thanks, HackEgo. ThackEgo. 19:20:26 thackego. sounds good :D 19:20:41 `thanks 19:20:45 Thanks, han. Than. 19:21:01 good program 19:21:02 `thanks nooodl 19:21:04 Thanks, nooodl. Thooodl. 19:21:22 `thanks 19:21:26 Thanks, writh. Thith. 19:21:31 `thanks 19:21:32 `thanks 19:21:32 `thanks 19:21:37 Thanks, shipermy. Thipermy. 19:21:37 Thanks, enfingy. Thenfingy. 19:21:37 Thanks, cat. That. 19:21:43 cat 19:21:50 enfingy 19:22:08 sixfirhy. 19:23:24 `thanks 19:23:27 Thanks, smitten. Thitten. 19:23:45 i don't even 19:23:48 -!- rodgort` has joined. 19:24:06 `run welcome nooodl | thanks 19:24:11 Thanks, schiacker. Thiacker. 19:24:17 oh right 19:24:17 waht 19:24:20 oh 19:24:23 it takes the things from the argvs 19:24:32 major flaw 19:24:48 `thanks `run welcome nooodl 19:24:50 Thanks, `run welcome nooodl. Thun welcome nooodl. 19:25:22 `run welcome nooodl | xargs -0 thanks 19:25:25 Thanks, nooodl: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.). Thooodl: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! F 19:25:31 o m g 19:25:32 good 19:25:36 `run relcome nooodl | xargs -0 thanks 19:25:39 Thanks, nooodl: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.). Thoo 19:25:43 thoo 19:25:46 where are the things when there are no argvs? 19:26:00 i literally dont understand the question 19:26:37 I don't understand `thanks either 19:26:54 oh you mean 19:26:59 `words 19:27:03 viv 19:27:07 i think this answers your question hth 19:27:21 wait did i break that, 19:27:22 `thanks 19:27:26 Thanks, gessime. Thessime. 19:27:28 gessime 19:27:28 no ok good 19:27:57 `run thanks nooodl | hyphenate.fi 19:27:59 Thanks, nooodl. Thooodl. 19:28:21 nice hyphens 19:28:36 -!- rodgort has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 19:29:53 `run thanks aéroglisseur | hyphenate.fr 19:29:55 bash: hyphenate.fr: command not found 19:30:17 -!- carado has joined. 19:30:27 je proteste! 19:30:44 a-é-ro-g-liss-e-ur hth 19:31:14 `thanks boily nooodl 19:31:15 Thanks, boily nooodl. Thoily nooodl. 19:32:06 not thoily thooodl? 19:32:47 hmm 19:32:47 i'm pretty sure this train is banked over quite a long way while going around turns 19:32:51 `run echo "a-é-ro-g-liss-e-ur. If you mention eels, you'll get smacked with one of them in a most unappropriate manner." >wisdom/hovercraft 19:32:55 No output. 19:33:22 eeloglisseur, eel glider 19:33:47 it's fairly disconcerting 19:33:48 this is great 19:33:49 `thanks elliott 19:33:51 Thanks, elliott. Thelliott. 19:33:58 -!- Taneb has joined. 19:33:59 `thanks the elliott. 19:34:01 Thanks, the elliott.. The elliott.. 19:34:12 Phantom__Hoover: are you on a trane 19:34:35 `thanks shanks 19:34:37 Thanks, shanks. Thanks. 19:35:53 `thanks rhythm 19:35:53 -!- Phantom__Hoover has quit (Quit: Leaving). 19:35:55 Thanks, rhythm. Thythm. 19:36:06 -!- Phantom__Hoover has joined. 19:36:19 `thanks rhythm 19:36:21 Thanks, rhythm. Thythm. 19:36:35 CLEVER 19:36:42 `thanks yottogram 19:36:43 Thanks, yottogram. Thyottogram. 19:37:02 what an awful implementation of thanks 19:37:33 What, that's totally pronounceable. 19:37:38 maybe you're just a jerk! 19:37:58 and maybe you're just a Bike 19:38:05 patches welcome 19:38:16 -!- Taneb has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 19:38:26 Bike, yes but it's WRONG 19:38:27 -!- MindlessDrone has quit (Quit: MindlessDrone). 19:38:33 it should be thottogram 19:38:38 why 19:38:41 y? 19:38:53 because the 'y' in yottogram is a consonant 19:39:49 -!- DHeadshot has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 19:46:06 -!- ggherdov has joined. 19:46:18 `? hovercraft 19:46:19 a-é-ro-g-liss-e-ur. If you mention eels, you'll get smacked with one of them in a most unappropriate manner. 19:46:30 i shall imagine this in david suchet's voice 19:46:37 would've used Lingua::EN::Inflect, but it's not in hackego 19:46:39 ~duck david suchet 19:46:39 David Suchet, CBE (born 2 May 1946) is an English actor, known for his work on British television. 19:56:13 what exactly does ~duck search 19:56:25 ducks 19:56:26 duckduckgo? 19:57:34 -!- Taneb has joined. 19:57:37 nooodl is right. 19:57:54 `learn nooodl is right 19:57:57 I knew that. 19:58:45 http://hpaste.org/89381 19:59:42 oh cool, I didn't know that ddg does these definition things 20:00:06 that extractContent definition :( 20:00:26 -!- Bike_ has joined. 20:00:40 -!- Bike has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 20:01:06 elliott: I know. 20:02:32 -!- jsvine has quit (*.net *.split). 20:02:37 I think there can be some monoid thingy forast-moon applicative to replace it. 20:02:37 * kmc golfs 20:02:48 it's not the verbosity 20:02:50 extractContent (Answer{..}) = head $ filter (not . null) [abstract, answer, definition, "--- No relevant information"] 20:02:55 no wtf 20:02:57 come on! 20:03:17 that definition makes me upset in like at least five ways :( 20:03:20 kmc's i mean 20:03:31 what would you write elliott 20:03:53 uh something else 20:04:02 it's kind of bad that null strings are being used for "no answer" to start with 20:04:09 i'd try to make those Maybe Strings asap 20:04:32 then e.g. fromMaybe "nothing" (abstract ans <|> answer ans <|> definition ans) 20:04:39 maybe instead of that Answer thing, just return the wanted result directly 20:05:07 the additional things that upset me about kmc's are 1. the unnecessary parens around Answer{..} 2. the record wildcard (i hate shadowing) 20:05:08 elliott: I think there's an aeson operator to get a maybe. 20:05:12 data Answer = Answer { answer :: String } 20:05:33 olsner: well, it comes in as JSON 20:06:03 I like the <|>. that operator is way underrated. 20:06:25 is it actually unnecessary there? 20:07:17 -!- Bike_ has changed nick to Bike. 20:07:30 i agree that Maybe String is preferable; I didn't look to see where those come from 20:07:58 this is some important stuff 20:07:59 -!- jsvine has joined. 20:08:18 -!- Vorpal_ has changed nick to Vorpal. 20:08:33 Hm, where is fizzie? 20:09:03 changed nick to Taneb, I think 20:09:15 totally 20:09:36 fizzie and Taneb are the same? AAAAAAAAAAAAAH! 20:10:33 -!- Phantom__Hoover has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 20:10:33 someone should start calling themselves flzzle 20:12:12 elliott: (.:?) :: FromJSON a => Object -> Text -> Parser (Maybe a) 20:12:57 and that special-cases ""? 20:13:23 hmm... maybe. 20:17:56 shadowing, more like shadowing 20:18:15 `addquote shadowing, more like shadowing 20:18:19 1048) shadowing, more like shadowing 20:18:26 lol 20:20:04 boily: btw why does it safe search 20:20:23 ~duck cocks 20:20:24 cock definition: the adult male of the domestic chicken ('''Gallus gallus'''). 20:20:37 elliott: for kmc reasons. 20:21:06 ~duck penis 20:21:06 --- No relevant information 20:21:18 galliformes are such weird species 20:21:18 elliott: for *very* kmc reasons. 20:21:28 imo change that message to "INSUFFICIENT DATA FOR MEANINGFUL ANSWER" 20:21:50 not sure we need more data hth 20:22:26 ~duck boily 20:22:26 --- No relevant information 20:22:29 indeed 20:23:21 there's a david boily on wikipedia (no, that's not me. my first name also isn't david.) 20:39:20 -!- jsvine1 has joined. 20:41:21 -!- jsvine has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 20:56:17 changed nick to Taneb, I think <-- yeah right... 20:56:42 Tanebje 20:56:50 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 20:57:30 I don't even know who I am any more 20:57:59 hmm, gunpoint came out 20:58:17 on the one hand: finally i can give tom francis money; on the other hand: i don't really feel like playing it right now 20:58:42 Taneb: become Canadian. this will solve all your existential problems. 21:00:45 oh GOD and there's a version with commentary for more money i'm in crisis now 21:01:13 Phantom_Hoover, if you give me money I'll ghost-write your Tumblr for you 21:01:22 I've been practising hating brainfuck derivatives 21:01:28 I think I'm getting pretty good at it 21:01:34 if you can ghostwrite it to the standard of tom francis then yes 21:02:02 The dead cricketer? 21:02:51 if you can write to the standard of a dead cricketer then yes, i will give you money 21:04:35 i am impressed at the amount of effort it must have taken you to find the tom francis who is a dead cricketer, rather than any of the other ones 21:05:19 Phantom_Hoover, it was a simple matter of going to Wikipedia first, rather than Google 21:05:49 he is at the top of that list, i'll give you that 21:09:24 hey Taneb you should write kmc's tumblr account page 21:09:33 you can fill it with drugz jokez 21:10:16 drugse joxe 21:13:08 ~duck tom francis 21:13:08 --- No relevant information 21:13:17 ~duck is not very good 21:13:17 --- No relevant information 21:13:27 ~duck shachaf 21:13:27 --- No relevant information 21:13:34 but the rhymenocerous is very very good! 21:14:25 nooodl, he did the minecraft experiment if you read that 21:14:49 i didn't but maybe i did 21:15:04 here http://www.pcgamer.com/2010/11/20/the-minecraft-experiment-day-1-chasing-waterfalls/ 21:15:09 it is good, imo read it 21:16:27 ooh. so it's basically a hardcore mode LP, but before hardcore mode even existed 21:17:02 this is pretty good so far 21:18:44 oh maaaaan he's also AWFUL at minecraft, 21:18:49 great 21:19:37 hardcore mode was inspired by this, i think 21:20:51 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bk_q05r8DcM 21:24:05 -!- boily has quit (Quit: Poulet!). 21:24:07 -!- metasepia has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 21:29:23 shachaf, btw my progress in Agda is going worringly well in the past couple of hours when compared to the preceding days 21:30:00 Taneb: have you outagdaed me 21:30:21 shachaf, probably not, how agda are you? 21:33:00 very little 21:33:44 what i know about agda: UNICODE 21:33:46 iirc i gave up on the agda tutorial when there was a bit about "of course, your category theory textbook probably tells you " 21:34:00 and also if_then_else_ is a valid thing 21:35:37 I almost stumbled on "Prove the transitivity of sublistiness" 21:36:06 why stumble 21:37:00 Because back then I did not think in Agda 21:37:17 because sublistiness is a weird word 21:37:49 i think i also got confused at one point proving something involving lists equalled something else involving lists 21:38:04 as i recall there was a proofsplosion 21:44:21 -!- Taneb has quit (Quit: Leaving). 22:13:59 -!- sebbu3 has changed nick to sebbu. 22:14:06 -!- jsvine1 has quit (Quit: Leaving.). 22:19:55 -!- augur has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 22:20:10 -!- augur has joined. 22:21:57 -!- nooodl has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 22:24:20 -!- tertu has changed nick to TeruFSX. 22:24:47 -!- ais523 has joined. 22:25:11 @messages? 22:25:11 Sorry, no messages today. 22:36:29 -!- Phantom__Hoover has joined. 22:39:24 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 22:46:23 -!- Bike has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 22:48:22 -!- Bike has joined. 22:49:03 -!- nooga_ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 22:54:15 -!- nooga_ has joined. 23:01:23 -!- epicmonkey has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 23:02:42 -!- Fiora has joined. 23:03:02 http://fiorasm.tumblr.com/post/52251266650/optimizing-conways-game-of-life-with-simd-and-lookup if anyone's interested I wrote up a thing 23:21:01 cool :) 23:21:03 * kmc reads 23:21:09 (the friend was bike ofc) 23:35:26 i think movhps xmm3, line3[0] 23:35:51 should have s/xmm3/xmm1/ 23:36:40 in the first copy of the eight instructions 23:37:09 thanks, fixed <.< 23:46:20 looks cool 23:57:09 Ah, the fish symbol is an l. 23:57:09 you know, Life freaks me out a bit 23:57:24 I always imagine there's this huge infinite grid somewhere that's a universe 23:57:27 it's cursive. 23:57:31 with Life playing 23:58:04 Koen___: the hashlife paper's explicit embrace of simulator metaphysics probably wouldn't help your freaking. 23:58:08 but I can't process the question: why would some cells be alive? weren't they initially all dead? 23:58:32 why would they be, in your fantasyland 23:58:41 probably not 23:59:01 but per life has a very strong definition i believe 23:59:08 what? 23:59:17 ion: oh, sorry <.< I was just scribbling in photoshop 23:59:26 fish up table