< 1371515916 218140 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I'm no longer totally convinced that every Turing machine either halts or does not halt. < 1371515924 374283 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe Goldbach's conjecture doesn't have a truth value. < 1371516003 455784 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well definitely there is a TM where ZFC can't prove it halts or doesn't, unless ZFC is inconsistent < 1371516011 701118 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1371516024 717443 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems to me that a Turing machine must either halts or does not halt (maybe I am wrong); I made a sequent calculus of Turing machine so it halts if and only if it is provable, I think (unless I made a mistake). < 1371516028 145117 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zfc, more like sucksfc < 1371516050 405610 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and likewise for whatever other formal logic you want to use to talk about turing machines < 1371516058 161193 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :All the cool kids work in linear logic with no axioms. < 1371516060 378932 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zfc38 < 1371516071 878633 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would use that axiom system < 1371516088 983320 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ZFC 98 < 1371516089 138843 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Different kind of logic are useful for different things. < 1371516095 250585 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Suddenly I feel like there's a topology here. < 1371516202 54559 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :The singleton set {X} is closed if and only if ZFC proves that X halts or that X does not halt. < 1371516232 891642 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So is that how it works? < 1371516249 27543 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I certainly haven't defined the entire topology yet. < 1371516250 977861 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well boolean algebras have Stone spaces < 1371516266 64718 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and this relates logic and topology somehow < 1371516278 69918 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :too bad i know only a little logic and no topology < 1371516289 693482 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is possible to prove that a Turing machine halts if and only if it does halt, but this isn't the case with not halting. < 1371516321 338592 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there linear logic with no axioms? < 1371516326 166714 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're saying that "for all Turing machines X, X does not halt if and only if X does not halt" is not provable? < 1371516333 57396 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should say "linear logic with no additional axioms". < 1371516343 289625 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, OK. < 1371516368 317090 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In mathematics, Stone's representation theorem for Boolean algebras states that every Boolean algebra is isomorphic to a field of sets." No shit? < 1371516375 439295 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: No, I am just saying that it isn't necessarily provable if it doesn't halt. Sometimes it may be. < 1371516383 282097 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that. < 1371516397 732339 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett, have you seen the pidgeonhole principle? < 1371516432 785421 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: In Potion of Confusing, the message says "All of the objects (except one) are what they seem; there are no secret objects or fake wall or anything like that." < 1371516439 245553 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Shouldn't that say "fake walls"? < 1371516479 547403 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I suppose that would work too. < 1371516518 641078 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Note that "what they seem" is according to MegaZeux; if you don't know much about MegaZeux then this message probably won't help much. (MegaZeux is open source though, so that might help a bit.) < 1371516528 883754 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I think "fake wall" is iggrammatical. < 1371516906 11515 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't intend to fix it right now (although you can fix it if you want to). < 1371516938 799923 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'patches welcome' < 1371516991 956084 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I like the thing where someone asks for help with their program and someone suggests a bunch of ways to improve it and they respond with "patches welcome". < 1371517013 665083 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I might fix it later, though. < 1371517022 313463 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such as, when I continue to work on that game and add more levels. < 1371517037 419442 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. http://www.reddit.com/r/haskell/comments/1gdh5u/help_tracking_down_a_possible_memory_leak_in/ < 1371517057 25493 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1371517082 278632 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: should i give up on the punctuation for "eg, ie, etc", etc. < 1371517082 492292 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's just... that specific person < 1371517084 102268 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"you should use DevURandom instead of DevRandom, unless you want to wait a long time for cryptographically secure genetic results" < 1371517087 141210 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sigh < 1371517099 198646 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :really questionable that /dev/random should exist < 1371517137 709984 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in typical configurations urandom is *cryptographically* unpredictable < 1371517141 65325 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it works differently on different OSs, doesn't it? like I remember reading that BSD's "random" was actually a PRNG seeded by a guaranteed-safe amount of entropy < 1371517142 981181 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not information-theoretically unpredictable < 1371517153 423813 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: where else will i dump my spare entropy hth < 1371517211 535508 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i think i heard that /dev/urandom is even better than /dev/random for cryptography for reasons other than speed < 1371517214 541732 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i didn't understand the reasons < 1371517222 485230 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :all you need is like 256 bits of entropy at startup and you can generate cryptographically secure random numbers indefinitely < 1371517238 163135 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for basically the same reason that you can encrypt arbitrarily long things with AES using a 256 bit key < 1371517242 311603 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :except that's probably not /really/ true < 1371517278 842050 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i mean 'indefinitely' in a practical sense < 1371517286 444995 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you use aes in ctr mode as a good rng < 1371517294 427550 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should think so < 1371517303 469282 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise it's not a v. good stream cipher < 1371517308 348688 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1371517309 839594 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i might be missing something < 1371517310 751666 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, would it be slow < 1371517314 448997 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1371517325 145677 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Linux urandom uses some cryptographic hashing instead < 1371517326 793113 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't it typically, like N bits of PRNG seed gets you ~2^N bits of output? < 1371517331 703296 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, like, safe output < 1371517393 593484 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :non-cryptographic PRNGs like Mersenne Twister or MWC256 have a much larger internal state, but I think that's because they need to be fast and can't do much mixing on each output < 1371517408 9653 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact MT has a more expensive step that happens each n words where n words is also the state size < 1371517462 89689 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a reason to use a non-cryptographic PRNG except in special cases? < 1371517469 90423 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :speeeeeeeeeeeeed < 1371517480 437818 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :needing a bunch of random numbers quickly isn't that special of a case, to me < 1371517486 729677 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone happen to use zsh < 1371517501 819399 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I do think that language builtin RNGs should err on the side of cryptographic strength < 1371517512 979862 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :By "special" I meant "non-default". < 1371517524 255938 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok then < 1371517528 173433 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And my question was really mostly about speed. Are cryptographic PRNGs that much slower? < 1371517539 79517 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course now we have like, RDRAND, soooo < 1371517554 902763 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"On a i5-3210M (2.5GHz) Ivybridge (2 cores, 4 threads) I get a peak of ~99.6 million 64 bit rdrands per second with 4 threads which equates to ~6.374 billion bits per second. Not bad at all." wow < 1371517566 969519 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I used ARCFOUR in Famicom Hangman, which works fine, even though that is a very slow computer! < 1371517581 736696 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like that Python has random.SystemRandom() which is an object with the same API as the random module itself, and using urandom < 1371517586 505587 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it would be even better if they were swapped < 1371517596 766935 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: did you drop the first several thousand outputs? < 1371517611 682456 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if that will finally get rid of the /dev/random seeding problem. < 1371517616 818330 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: It will automatically do that if you don't put the space bar immediately as soon as you turn it on. < 1371517662 432920 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1371517667 885415 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1371517673 726053 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION makes plans to cheat at Famicom Hangman using RC4 biases
< 1371517684 123772 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc that's illegal < 1371517685 62603 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1371517970 144031 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could probably do in an emulator since you can step each frame, to make a TAS, I suppose. However, the microphone and the initial contents of RAM are used for additional entropy if available. On the title screen (and after you win and lose), it generates (and discards) at least a thousand random numbers per frame. During the game, it generates and discards one per frame. < 1371518193 961548 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: of course, anything that makes default functionality slower will be bad for marketing your language < 1371518239 611011 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if there's a fast RNG function, microbenchmark writers won't find it, or they'll complain about how unintuitive it is < 1371518259 259504 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas approximately nobody is microbenchmarking languages on the basis of 'how easy is it to write broken crypto in this language' < 1371518297 251789 :nooga_!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1371518329 897083 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if GHC could support lazy unboxed arrays. keep a bitmap saying whether each element is a thunk or not < 1371518375 675766 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unboxed arrays of machine-word-sized elements? < 1371518380 737157 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be cool to have a language where String is some kind of awesomely efficient rope structure but still has the lazy char-at-a-time semantics < 1371518382 786065 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: yeah, I've seen the pigeonhole principle many times. < 1371518388 226217 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: they have to be at least that big, but they could be bigger < 1371518410 766764 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1371518438 310918 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and of course you can hide that and just pad out things smaller than a machine word) < 1371518475 206279 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if one should put the bits at the beginning of the array, or have cache line sized chunks each with their own bitmap, or what < 1371518556 59522 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if you had an unboxed array of Word32 on a 64-bit machine then you wouldn't need a separate bitmap at all < 1371518577 733807 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could put the Word32 in the upper half of the machine word, and tag the low bit < 1371518622 448111 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could do that with any Word32, not just an array... < 1371518629 710942 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I like how Haskell's "better string structure" is just an array. :( < 1371518632 173398 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :putting the tags back in the etc. < 1371518638 714617 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: speaking of like nonintuitiveness or whatever, I don't know if you're interested or anything but the way rdrand works is kind of interesting < 1371518690 662469 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: I have a vague understanding. it's based on drift between two oscillators, then a conditioner, then an internal PRNG? < 1371518710 384507 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they do this to avoid having analog components, which need to be redesigned on each die shrink < 1371518721 148328 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant, like, the UI? basically like, you use the instruction and then it sets a flag if it succeeded, otherwise you can retry < 1371518725 662596 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that < 1371518730 473069 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah interesting < 1371518731 541427 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :since the bandwidth is limited (100 million calls per second or so?) across cores < 1371518735 48911 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i bet people get that wrong too < 1371518741 427590 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah, the internals are really really cool < 1371518751 15933 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, a *digital* random noise generator < 1371518769 260587 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I think in a dream last night I wondered whether the amount of entropy in /dev/random would form an exploitable side channel in some circumstances < 1371518791 166790 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :would there be a way to derive that information externally? < 1371518806 29999 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :any user program can read /dev/random and see when it blocks < 1371518813 524975 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oooh. < 1371518816 404998 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which tells you about how much /dev/randoming other processes have been doing < 1371518832 23151 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote dream < 1371518835 852215 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :150) catseye: Please wake up. Not recorded for this timezone. The big spider is not your dream \ 233) back to legal tender, that expression really makes me daydream. Like, there'd be black-market tender. Out-of-town hug shops where people exchange tenderness you've NEVER SEEN BEFORE. \ 243) Gregor, yeah, but P < 1371518843 99809 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm so like < 1371518861 372477 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Linux has /proc/sys/kernel/random/entropy_avail < 1371518865 338530 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if that could be used as a timing attack, because you could use it to know when other processes are asking for entropy < 1371518871 855568 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha nice shachaf < 1371518874 642311 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you could use it to find out when some process is doing some particular thing? < 1371518875 895655 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: hm, yeah that too < 1371518890 128834 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I guess if you're on the same box you could already do like a cache timing attack < 1371518924 705374 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: mine seems to clim up to 190 and then drop to 128 < 1371518927 352185 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :over and over < 1371518932 612913 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep. < 1371518934 272290 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that because it's feeding some of that entropy into urandom? < 1371518940 873905 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. < 1371518945 70880 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It goes down to ~3 when you cat /dev/random < 1371518949 812697 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/you/I/ < 1371518981 314324 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :My entropy availability goes up to eleven. < 1371518985 917767 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's because observing the entropy makes it less random clearly < 1371519025 292250 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The file read_wakeup_threshold contains the number of bits of entropy required for waking up processes that sleep waiting for entropy from /dev/random. The default is 64. The file write_wakeup_threshold con‐ tains the number of bits of entropy below which we wake up processes that do a select(2) or poll(2) for write access to /dev/random. These values can be changed by writing to the files. < 1371519164 190403 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The value of entropy_avail could be used as a source of entropy. < 1371519182 27972 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion..........................no........... < 1371519237 966878 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: YOU DON’T SAY? < 1371519281 91842 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't say what < 1371519396 584863 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: speaking of keyboards do you think you could make a keylogger based on microphone input of someone typing < 1371519404 589300 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(on a laptop) < 1371519411 209077 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes i've heard of that < 1371519435 439777 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean make a flash game or something that secretly logs your passwords < 1371519509 684035 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :HTML5 Microphone API < 1371519522 285922 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :HTML5 Keylogging API < 1371519549 502799 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also HTML5 lets you play and record audio but it has no way to isolate audio from different origins in the acoustic surroundings of the computer! < 1371519711 653519 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :They are full of dumb things < 1371519732 637405 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is CoYoneda a design pattern < 1371519776 339340 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should make a book of design patterns which gradually turns into a maths book < 1371519803 719543 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really think the client should be programmed not to send all keys to the webpage. Someone once at FreeGeek once wanted to use a webpage to test the keyboard, and some keys interfere; I suggested instead to use the program included in Linux for this purpose, which result in not interfering with anything! < 1371519885 13640 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It should also report the size of the document area as the screen resolution, instead of the actual screen resolution, and if a script resizes a window to a specific size, to make it larger than that so that the document area will be of the specified size instead.) < 1371519934 253845 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: you should make a twitter account < 1371519953 281899 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want to make a Twitter account; I have no need for such a thing. < 1371519961 424990 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should make a book of design patterns which gradually turns into a snake < 1371519978 169447 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No one has a *need* for it. < 1371520006 758220 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can just use IRC or whatever. < 1371520020 740492 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How can I follow you on IRC? < 1371520043 285570 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Use the IRC log file, is one way. < 1371521535 157826 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.thinkgeek.com/stuff/41/snuznluz.shtml < 1371521592 632272 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.O it's an April Fools joke < 1371521631 533376 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.beeminder.com is sort of the same thing. < 1371521721 577377 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Laughing while describing your service does not seem like the best idea ever < 1371521743 49830 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1371521748 168115 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if your service is jokeserver < 1371522681 1949 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1371523413 83513 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1371523541 77221 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist < 1371523542 859224 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1371523548 47958 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo...............olist........... < 1371523567 433039 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, I can do an `olist but it would be a lie < 1371523567 824988 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're updating the wrong comic < 1371523572 206450 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't lie < 1371524583 182293 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1371524934 717683 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Quit: Changing server < 1371525096 924084 :elliott_!elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1371525120 272599 :elliott_!elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com NICK :Guest73516 < 1371525182 389723 :Guest73516!elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com QUIT :Client Quit < 1371525216 378467 :elliott__!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1371525266 474747 :elliott__!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott NICK :elliott < 1371525622 381707 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma-all < 1371525622 493249 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : blah 31337 < 1371525622 581184 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : nobody 2000 < 1371525622 653265 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : c/c 499 < 1371525622 653421 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : ( 205 < 1371525622 653525 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : + 147 < 1371525624 492069 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : g 141 < 1371525626 490277 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : libc 56 < 1371525628 507038 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : dmwit 55 < 1371525630 497247 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : shachaf 53 < 1371525632 496488 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : monochrom 52 < 1371525634 506352 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : ##c 48 < 1371525636 500488 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Notepad 46 < 1371525638 500724 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plugin `karma' failed with: <> < 1371525818 572455 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1371526361 59827 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: the freenode servers list lies about IPv6. :( < 1371527128 604071 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, `erfdate < 1371527202 447320 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: ? < 1371527223 572667 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, Erfworld updated < 1371527230 644250 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And? < 1371527253 911906 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It amuses me that another thing updated that isn't the thing you want to see updated < 1371527262 467714 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1371527292 818813 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Note that I didn't say that I'm amused that the thing you want to update didn't update < 1371527363 319912 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Duly noted and recorded in your file for future reference. < 1371527658 283 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :your permanent record < 1371527684 581646 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: that's going a little far isn't it < 1371527690 131578 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean it's permanent < 1371528437 953471 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1371528598 255029 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? indexed monad < 1371528600 351054 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indexed monads are just categories enriched over the monoidal category of endofunctors. \ Indexed monads are just monads on an indexed category < 1371528609 340863 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats shachaf -----###
< 1371528619 759972 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: What? < 1371528622 494770 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right. < 1371528640 909271 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i '2s/$/./' wisdom/indexed\ monad < 1371528644 937176 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1371528645 849022 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? indexed monad < 1371528647 672496 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indexed monads are just categories enriched over the monoidal category of endofunctors. \ Indexed monads are just monads on an indexed category. < 1371528652 138464 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Better. < 1371528660 549905 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1371528666 898688 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1371528678 952285 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/35Qxgty.gif < 1371528681 100341 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"considered harmful when preceded by its quotation" considered harmful when preceded by its quotation < 1371528683 392418 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that _really_ supposed to be two different lines. < 1371528697 133568 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: what. why. < 1371528697 899543 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc++ < 1371528699 608730 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/aXb0Bd6_460sa.gif < 1371528711 84158 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :owls! < 1371528728 139063 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes? < 1371528738 15288 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: There are two different meanings for the phrase. How should I do it? < 1371528757 635094 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...i dunno. < 1371528782 759910 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :why aren't any of the links loading... < 1371528793 740515 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you're still using IE, hth < 1371528813 954019 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it fails at an earlier point than that hth < 1371528922 860669 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1371528938 382171 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is she eating a kitten help < 1371528967 723018 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am < 1371529126 193315 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmm < 1371529127 402728 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :kittens < 1371529188 148010 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other white meat? < 1371529306 422170 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1371529457 217416 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : 'malicious' is not really the standard <-- i've heard "stupid" is sometimes a good substitute hth < 1371530145 294957 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell taneb aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa[...] <-- you seem stressed you should relax some hth < 1371530145 389633 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1371530161 233466 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1371530161 334912 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages < 1371530166 208221 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh misread < 1371530194 100729 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the nicks are just so similar < 1371530237 115119 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: wasn't it "incompetent' hth < 1371530447 969197 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: nope that's a later mangling hth < 1371530471 896120 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: have you ever considered quitting "hth" < 1371530505 244421 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: btw op me hth < 1371530511 893888 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i agree, op elliott < 1371530521 784878 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :then kick Phantom_Hoover and crown mnoqy < 1371530556 274605 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait it's been attributed to napoleon hm < 1371530580 294885 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course he obviously said it in french hth < 1371530627 147087 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy is chaotic right < 1371530733 445643 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Le mot impossible n'est pas français." < 1371530802 41394 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist 894 < 1371530803 919210 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist 894: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly < 1371530966 775616 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oo < 1371531159 134263 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : ts < 1371531311 356066 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1371531511 741267 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-196-105.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1371531893 507798 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: should i sleep < 1371531962 588237 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf JOIN :#esoteric < 1371531967 256669 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no hth < 1371532009 103865 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-196-105.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kappabot: fuck < 1371532421 509151 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf QUIT :Quit: Bike-is-being-unpleasant < 1371532626 135970 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1371532853 667119 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: what is the difference between lovers and 3-colorings of graphs.................. < 1371532866 669469 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :baby don't hurt me < 1371532876 748648 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :drummers have no soul in general hth < 1371533479 761157 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1371534031 30368 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikiquote seems to doubt the napoleon attribution, given that it is from 2003. < 1371534111 947841 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder whether in a generation we will be able to distinguish false and true references at all < 1371534244 317738 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: wtf @ question < 1371534278 438196 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : I hope predicative datives come up < 1371534289 448769 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wtf predicative datives < 1371534291 74711 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :why predicative datives is like wtf < 1371534343 347089 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo: *Are < 1371534346 761229 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*are < 1371534385 135317 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no its is < 1371534463 72059 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : mnoqy: whoa dude are linear transformations like concatenative languages <-- you may be confused by the fact they're both monoids hth < 1371534481 175618 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe categories < 1371534491 437825 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: *it's < 1371534502 415978 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: *its < 1371534504 457646 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :its its < 1371534548 824072 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like how a freenode oper accidentally klined the entirety of webchat < 1371534552 167498 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :by messing up the syntax < 1371534561 594829 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::') < 1371534565 71625 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and now a billion people are joining #freenode asking why they got klined < 1371534606 983747 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-196-105.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesome < 1371534612 116207 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is beautiful < 1371534663 277625 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also #freenode is literally the worst channel < 1371534670 764278 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :worse than #esoteric ??? < 1371534690 76752 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :why don't file: pages have a proper history link, i wanted to see if the description has been changed < 1371534716 731400 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the kline messages say it was for "harrassing people" < 1371534721 846264 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so ppl are kind of upset about it < 1371534725 60282 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*message said < 1371534730 27643 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i can get to it by pressing edit on the description first < 1371534747 207964 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hm on esolang? < 1371534773 180170 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: no on wikipedia. < 1371534778 548691 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: perhaps the file is on commons < 1371534780 232887 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway i found it https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Grand_Junction_from_Mass_Ave.JPG&diff=98335089&oldid=76213178 < 1371534794 123208 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(edited yesterday) < 1371534799 120474 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :scroll down :P < 1371534985 883146 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah that commons stuff is confusing < 1371535017 470204 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :something else that irritates me is when people link to commons pictures directly without context < 1371535145 492559 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :DdEe4Aai? did kmc accidentally switch username and password? < 1371535199 489114 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's me < 1371535211 254852 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would my wikipedia username be related to anything else < 1371535217 635020 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's random < 1371535219 958133 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :password is random as well < 1371535268 29781 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :concurrent haskell, multiocular o and methylamine... yeah that's kmc all right. < 1371535286 672857 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :itt kmc has just scrambled to fix his password away from kmc < 1371535338 359710 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1371535348 404337 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know my interests < 1371535354 765448 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they reverted my methylamine edit < 1371535356 830921 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bastards < 1371535362 463703 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1371535364 664975 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i also tried to create Category:Toroidal foods < 1371535368 752932 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :deleted < 1371535371 108463 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bastards < 1371535399 536867 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would anyone delete that!! < 1371535482 570534 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because they hate freedom < 1371535551 227676 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it is because they hate toriodal foods. < 1371535576 842124 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :america is about freedom, the freedom to eat foods of any topological genus you like < 1371535582 744362 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and to deep fry them as well < 1371535618 300619 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: technically "concurrent haskell" + "multiocular o" narrows it down to someone in this channel, and "methylamine" does the rest hth < 1371535661 738201 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-196-105.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what foods have genus, say, three < 1371535661 895836 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: what about your reddit username < 1371535664 14438 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :deep fried bagels, check < 1371535667 936429 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :once upon a time i knew what it was "but i forgot" < 1371535701 548622 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i'm more obsessed with multiocular o than most < 1371535722 621065 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genus_(mathematics)#Orientable_surface hth < 1371535725 854576 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: well there are braided breads < 1371535733 520681 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the holes usually go away in baking I guess < 1371535784 981211 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-196-105.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ?? those aren't foods! < 1371535793 398706 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although technically it's only the surface that is toroidal for bakery < 1371535899 341117 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kringle hth < 1371535921 425245 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-196-105.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh nice < 1371535929 566518 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What happened to all of kmc's edits? < 1371535946 703327 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only see two in -- oh, never mind. < 1371535992 617037 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: they were reverted by the CIA, NSA, FBI and RIAA hth < 1371536011 20276 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes with edit wars between the organizations < 1371536051 570973 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whew someone deleted the popular culture reference of methylamine < 1371536054 882676 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf do they use a picture of a german pretzel < 1371536059 844828 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :popular culture sections are the worst thing < 1371536082 780467 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :popular culture sections in popular culture: not very popular < 1371536106 318173 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : (→‎Popular culture: methylamine is not capable of being aware - removed the section because it is just trivia anyway) (undo) < 1371536109 288192 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1371536124 698623 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i bet that person kills intelligent calcium, too < 1371536248 294833 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn now i'm hungry for a pretzel < 1371536575 745209 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1371536693 151751 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not the only one who want a three button mouse with no scroll wheel. < 1371536814 918569 :oerjan_!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1371536875 77382 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1371536915 107304 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Last time you asked, I looked it up and it seemed possible to order it online. < 1371537457 740657 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh boy a serial mouse < 1371537620 707972 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cereal mouse < 1371537758 884708 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey remember the house with the x in the middle that people used to draw < 1371537777 84317 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-196-105.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good house. < 1371537811 735292 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :gꙬ d house < 1371537855 734336 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: no, also what < 1371537904 331681 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1371537937 718940 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do not remember this house < 1371537938 572893 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-196-105.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you draw a house as a square with diagonals with a triangle on top < 1371537952 436664 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-196-105.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the game is doing it without drawing a line twice < 1371537956 698045 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1371537974 674802 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you have to start at a vertex of odd degree? < 1371537990 143798 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-196-105.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it's babby's first eulerian whatever < 1371537997 625979 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-196-105.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did taht shit back in elementary school man < 1371538019 768913 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1371538032 776809 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-196-105.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION Math Expert
< 1371538034 10103 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :by people i mean first-graders (i was once among their ranks) < 1371538039 115514 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : o < 1371538039 374996 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : / \ < 1371538039 477567 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :/ \ < 1371538039 550069 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :o---o < 1371538039 550259 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :|\ /| < 1371538041 608714 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :| X | < 1371538044 144540 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :|/ \| < 1371538046 669539 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :o---o < 1371538049 137171 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :like that < 1371538051 616468 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you never did that??????? < 1371538055 617949 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did it < 1371538057 972256 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-196-105.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc's deprived < 1371538058 755175 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-196-105.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1371538063 785645 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :just forgot < 1371538067 120696 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-196-105.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how the hell is that so common i wonder < 1371538088 47915 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you ever join the pen 15 club < 1371538090 891089 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you have the game where you press 1 + 1 = = = = = = = ... in a calculator < 1371538097 806263 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and see how high you could get < 1371538099 629070 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what would that do < 1371538105 142771 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :add 1 repeatedly < 1371538107 987468 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-196-105.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :missed out on pen 15 < 1371538109 962187 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it repeats the last action < 1371538110 831128 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or did you just do the second part (drugz joke)) < 1371538115 160322 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not 2 * 2 = = = = = = < 1371538120 464873 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :much faster < 1371538122 28130 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the point is inefficiency hth < 1371538125 213192 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-196-105.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds cheap < 1371538125 806139 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :dnh < 1371538130 810840 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not just type 99999999 < 1371538140 637173 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-196-105.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not just type BB(3) < 1371538142 144907 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not just drop out of school and go fuck yourself < 1371538151 176938 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-196-105.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a drugz joke < 1371538153 455652 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1371538155 756285 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-196-105.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn < 1371538157 44670 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a go fuck yourself joke < 1371538158 892514 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-196-105.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH that reminds me < 1371538160 42974 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no that's just kmc < 1371538167 443844 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :also this was all in hebrew btw hth < 1371538174 512184 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-196-105.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :at college orientation the coordinator had to clarify by "cigarette" she meant nicotine < 1371538176 876709 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that that matters, except for your club < 1371538184 596532 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-196-105.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :glorious blazeit future < 1371538187 254375 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1371538189 978860 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is in WA? < 1371538193 133732 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-196-105.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1371538195 667321 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what context < 1371538203 80342 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :smoking a joint indoors is still a douche move < 1371538204 32824 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :drugz < 1371538204 472893 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :depending < 1371538213 402856 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-196-105.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just explaining that drugs weren't allowed in this event even if they're legal < 1371538221 963381 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1371538232 229032 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you misspelled drugz < 1371538234 660951 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we had to clarify that you weren't allowed to give hallucinogens to prefrosh even if they were technically legal < 1371538240 237527 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :smoking near a building is also a terrible thing to do < 1371538246 667596 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you smoke near a building i can smell it from the inside < 1371538248 391974 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-196-105.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's cool how everybody my age is more used to weed than nicotine < 1371538254 661412 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i will "h8 u 4 ever" < 1371538282 541762 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think pot smoke smells far less offensive than cig smoke < 1371538289 498779 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, but I found someone who's even more sensitive to smoking than I am. < 1371538295 181707 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(conal) < 1371538297 294659 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-196-105.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: my phrase was so boring it wasn't worthy of kool letterz, imo < 1371538307 669533 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i used to smoke hookah pretty regularly < 1371538314 69857 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :conal won't "h8 u 4 ever", though, because he's too nice < 1371538315 670102 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't even know what weed smells like #deprivedofdrugz < 1371538320 839516 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1371538323 603225 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-196-105.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pot smoke kind of pisses me off but tobacco smoke gets me to leave so < 1371538324 404310 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :drugzprived < 1371538324 954972 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd probably recognise it < 1371538334 581585 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks to psychic drugz instinct and the internet < 1371538343 448615 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-196-105.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the kmcnet < 1371538346 657659 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: how to find out what weed smells like: 1) go to san francisco < 1371538349 242384 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's it < 1371538359 42648 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc tells it like it is < 1371538384 701017 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you could also just download the smell file into your smellotronic of course < 1371538395 220992 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-196-105.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :-nod- < 1371538401 106911 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf TOPIC #esoteric :For the other use | http://underhanded.xcott.com/?page_id=5 | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric < 1371538401 700555 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: that sounds like literally the most expensive way to find out what weed smells like imaginable < 1371538422 207648 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: um, it's p. cheap hth < 1371538423 657059 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think sense of smell doesn't have a small basis set and so smellotronics will never be practical :'( < 1371538427 828085 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :just take caltrain < 1371538434 205639 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :caltrain doesn't go to hexham < 1371538436 15614 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :except on weekends < 1371538447 240664 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and on football/baseball game days < 1371538460 144172 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so why is it five "a"s < 1371538465 175206 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :whenever the giants play the hexham hexers < 1371538468 483272 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :join #cslounge-trains to find out < 1371538476 845284 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha hexham hexers < 1371538492 492863 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: imo come to hexham < 1371538496 111296 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a real team or 'football clubbe' as you say < 1371538506 839305 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wish < 1371538507 815746 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-196-105.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does hexham have weed. < 1371538515 909837 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: imo come to san francisco < 1371538522 62543 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've heard the UK has mostly awful adulterated 'soapbar hash' < 1371538533 754067 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.hexhamfc.com/ < 1371538541 620362 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-196-105.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds kind of horrifying. < 1371538547 135996 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1371538555 43407 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i clicked-to-play the big flash thing < 1371538556 656614 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-196-105.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :alt. a new and exciting way to clean oneself + sell hemp products to idiots < 1371538561 802979 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there's another click-to-play flash thing inside it < 1371538566 776337 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-196-105.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha < 1371538567 820059 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my god < 1371538571 946774 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how deep does it go < 1371538605 712476 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hexhamfc has 163 facebook likes < 1371538614 711345 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you click on the facebook logo it shows you a bigger picture of the facebook logo < 1371538624 565117 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this website is pretty hexham < 1371538633 15511 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wanted to see if taneb ""liked"" it < 1371538675 994605 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mr Ants < 1371538750 944224 :oerjan_!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1371538822 256351 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok what other games did we play in elementary school < 1371538865 25936 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :in maths class in third grade we had an ""official"" game where you would think of a number and then go up and name predicates that narrowed it down until it was determined uniquely < 1371538876 902706 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was "a fun game"" < 1371538929 275196 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should go back to third grade < 1371539259 954480 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1371539693 78921 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1371540216 296180 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 JOIN :#esoteric < 1371540464 327878 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :people claiming that Maybe-alikes which don't distinguish Nothing and Just Nothing are monads :'( < 1371541793 958695 :nooga_!~nooga@87-205-14-49.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1371544325 125687 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :people confusing utf-8 with unicode :'( < 1371544672 824138 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: maybe is usually a functor < 1371544675 910748 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: ^ ^ ^ < 1371544849 289867 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy is usually a fungot < 1371544850 2318 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i think she's already in bed and all. she replies, " what does " advice" do? it would require < 1371546207 304667 :irctc283!6338d67b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.56.214.123 JOIN :#esoteric < 1371546233 930384 :irctc283!6338d67b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.56.214.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1371546261 173828 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1371546266 442010 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome irctc283 < 1371546269 845188 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​14irctc283: Welcome11 to the intern13ation02al hub for es13ote13ric 02pro06grammin06g 07language design and11 dep10loyment!03 For more06 i08nfor10m11ati04on, check 04out our wiki: http://04esola06n09gs.or05g/09wi12ki09/Main_05Page. (For the other08 k11ind07 of esoter08ica, try10 #esoteri06c on irc.dal.net.06) < 1371546270 977055 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ciao < 1371546275 663848 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :!list < 1371546299 58429 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :"people claiming that Maybe-alikes which don't distinguish Nothing and Just Nothing are monads :'(" < 1371546301 329699 :irctc283!6338d67b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.56.214.123 QUIT :Client Quit < 1371546302 73687 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you even make such a thing < 1371546314 724558 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :not in haskell hth < 1371546378 955882 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only thing I can think of is null values < 1371546382 968491 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I wouldn't call those maybe-alike at all. < 1371546391 219344 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rather, I would call maybes null-like in uses >.< < 1371546521 257924 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wasn't there a Java thing that explicitly called itself a Maybe that did that? < 1371548785 524583 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there some sequent calculus logic where the turnstile indicates that whatever is on one side is better than that on the other side? < 1371548932 187083 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Normally in sequent calculus you have exactly one sequent below the line. What if this rule isn't used? If there is more than one sequent below the line, you still have to use all of them, just as you would for multiple sequents above the line. < 1371549891 187325 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1371550131 569999 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Quit: sacje < 1371552421 984664 :nooga_!~nooga@87-205-14-49.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1371553940 413598 :surma!uid6361@c-base/crew/surma JOIN :#esoteric < 1371554127 913348 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1371554225 757527 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1371554232 341108 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1371554291 769710 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523 < 1371554297 551081 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages? < 1371554297 650145 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, no messages today. < 1371554461 951767 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-238.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1371554656 133476 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: There was an olist update while you were gone, by the way. < 1371554813 512089 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-238.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw the update < 1371554869 271369 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Want to be added to `olist? < 1371554877 637119 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-238.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, olist < 1371554888 74466 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-238.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There should have been an slist too < 1371554899 445249 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :who cares about slist hth < 1371554902 392419 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-238.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist the rogue talks to the dog some more < 1371554903 983247 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1371554923 622846 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh. < 1371554926 581137 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Time to fix slist. < 1371554929 676382 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run head -n1 olist < 1371554931 286305 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :head: cannot open `olist' for reading: No such file or directory < 1371554931 823124 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run head -n1 slist < 1371554933 445398 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :head: cannot open `slist' for reading: No such file or directory < 1371554934 820995 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run head -n1 bin/olist < 1371554936 326512 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo -n "$(basename "$0")${@:+ }$@: "; tail -n+2 "$0" | xargs; exit < 1371554937 640895 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run head -n1 bin/slist < 1371554940 66078 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo -n "$(basename "$0"): "; tail -n+2 "$0" | xargs; exit < 1371554968 41503 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's/:/${@:+ }$@:/' bin/slist < 1371554972 46602 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1371554973 936272 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist the rogue talks to the dog some more < 1371554975 573739 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist the rogue talks to the dog some more: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1371554983 342818 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, should it have parentheses or something? < 1371554990 576030 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist (...): ... < 1371555000 646778 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-238.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, I hope to see some progress by the time I return < 1371555005 348468 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you can always provide those yourself. < 1371555017 800383 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I already solved the problem. hth < 1371555517 485725 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Quit: Reconnecting < 1371555522 62662 :elliott_!elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1371555547 302059 :elliott_!elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com NICK :Guest20320 < 1371555550 850012 :Guest20320!elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com QUIT :Client Quit < 1371555557 923084 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1371555754 602283 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1371556690 324954 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1371556709 270551 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1371556711 381767 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1371556931 913112 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1371557377 881065 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1371557438 975765 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1371561496 400158 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1371563932 117630 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1371566241 55937 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay guys what's up < 1371566246 134837 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's going on in the world? < 1371566261 905971 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how great is humanity doing? < 1371566371 112001 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :could be doing greater, I think < 1371566529 360433 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are your suggestions? < 1371566535 919854 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what can I do right now about it? < 1371566580 105976 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can be vaguely dissatisfied with the current state of humanity < 1371566601 600255 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're so pessimist < 1371566606 901044 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or pessimistic < 1371567083 284106 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so olsner what about you how are you doing? < 1371569456 995782 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1371570394 461191 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbAuGclbw0c < 1371570397 128351 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a video... < 1371570399 910633 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :from bbc comedy... < 1371570403 261349 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :blocked by channel 4 < 1371570407 230520 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :on copyright grounds < 1371570414 146650 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't < 1371570444 30257 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it works from here < 1371570469 526482 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1371570473 378701 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is fucking insane < 1371571190 794698 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-238.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know what is more insane < 1371571203 27786 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-238.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The time of tonight's sunset in Reykjavik < 1371571489 642860 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what time < 1371571501 156047 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-238.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 past midnight < 1371571681 564248 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1371571690 798622 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sunrise only about 3 hours later too < 1371571793 371490 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1371571957 137160 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1371572105 6943 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-196-105.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://25.media.tumblr.com/d6645df20881164379949e93bc2c08ae/tumblr_mojnlaGspx1rdbszlo1_1280.jpg < 1371572154 689773 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-238.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, what game is that < 1371572164 681768 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-196-105.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :crusader kings ii < 1371572165 952403 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :victoria something wasn't it < 1371572567 808225 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The trials and tribulations of living in a metric country: camera tripod mounts use a 1/4 inch UNC thread, but the local hardware stores sell nuts and bolts only in the metric system. < 1371573085 982201 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-238.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1371573641 134414 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1371573786 576877 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The above reaction occurs explosively with enough force to shatter a Pyrex beaker." < 1371573788 817069 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks wikipedia < 1371573815 480245 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it go dink or boom? < 1371573821 558806 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(caesium + water forming caesium hydroxide) < 1371573994 740123 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh < 1371573996 836516 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :caesiu, < 1371574000 589816 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*caesium < 1371574002 742132 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so overrated < 1371574086 641499 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-175-59.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1371574109 649537 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-175-59.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1371574143 92697 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1371575131 177691 :brendalis!~canaima@190.74.113.136 JOIN :#esoteric < 1371575321 779577 :brendalis!~canaima@190.74.113.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hola busco a personas para charlar un rato < 1371575452 397552 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh god < 1371575455 37528 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not another spaniard < 1371575469 995393 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :did this happen frequently? < 1371575476 816644 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it happened once before < 1371575489 129064 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they started slinging abuse at me in spanish for some reason < 1371575781 475292 :brendalis!~canaima@190.74.113.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :holis < 1371575818 104981 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you... argentinian? < 1371575885 268327 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1371576124 517050 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-170-129.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1371576500 529641 :brendalis!~canaima@190.74.113.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no hay nadien que hable espanol < 1371576530 222009 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :english, motherfucker, do you speak it? < 1371576536 565699 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :brendalis, no < 1371576569 640112 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :el �ltimo hombre que hablaba espa�ol dej� tras decir algunas cosas sobre mi madre < 1371576712 670603 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: was that google translated or do you actually hablas español? < 1371576713 893229 :brendalis!~canaima@190.74.113.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aprendan a hablar español < 1371576740 354321 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1371576760 992763 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1371576761 769187 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ya soy fluido en espa�ol gracias < 1371576768 130409 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: español, do you habla it? < 1371576787 520298 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nein, aber ich spreche deutsch < 1371576795 314862 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: you're not utf-8 hth < 1371576802 201192 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know < 1371576810 531168 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know how to change xchat's character set < 1371576816 933614 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: natürlich < 1371576864 426743 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's just make it easy for everyone and ban xchat hth < 1371576872 363753 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooo < 1371576889 954364 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tbh i don't get your "hth" stuff everywhere < 1371576893 488121 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: ok ban it _unless_ you make utf-8 work properly. < 1371576896 632555 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: it's in the settings hth < 1371576899 908284 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ctrl+S < 1371576905 203627 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :freenode -> edit -> char set -> utf-8 < 1371576910 338986 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's per server :')) < 1371576912 382144 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hth) < 1371576919 749783 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1371576920 799550 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the fuck < 1371576925 958435 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-196-105.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1371576930 78330 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1371576993 482693 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: fwiw it's the hth singularity hth < 1371577076 689324 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone should make hth into an esolang of some sort < 1371577085 272185 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now it makes sense < 1371577102 274615 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: like a default answer of java2k? < 1371577112 82510 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure hth < 1371577114 374255 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"2+2" "5, hth" < 1371577250 114744 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls bin/*elc*es < 1371577254 248508 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access bin/*elc*es: No such file or directory < 1371577266 951489 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls wisdom/*elc*es < 1371577268 626733 :brendalis!~canaima@190.74.113.136 PART :#esoteric < 1371577268 698680 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/welcome.es < 1371577275 470346 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn < 1371577403 127752 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-196-105.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? welcome.es < 1371577405 163436 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​¡Bienvenido al centro internacional para el diseño y despliegue de lenguajes de programación esotéricos! Para obtener más información, echa un vistazo a nuestro wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (Para el otro tipo de esoterismo, prueba #esoteric en irc.dal.net.) < 1371577419 397712 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :TOO LATE NOW < 1371577605 40902 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.113 JOIN :#esoteric < 1371577712 72855 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1371577844 409558 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1371577876 475450 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-170-129.as13285.net QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1371577880 495019 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net NICK :Taneb < 1371578105 354591 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run run run run run < 1371578106 753762 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: run: command not found < 1371578120 374207 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do do run run run, do do run run < 1371578135 282821 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run $0 $0 $0 $0 $0 $0 $0 $0 < 1371578136 885541 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/bin/bash: /bin/bash: cannot execute binary file < 1371578167 651571 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run $0 exec $0 exec $0 exec $0 exec $0 exec $0 exec $0 exec $0 < 1371578169 480018 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: exec: No such file or directory < 1371578178 543692 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, it expects a script < 1371578196 280548 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-196-105.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo $0 < 1371578197 777071 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash < 1371578227 252618 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run $0 -c $0 -c $0 -c $0 -c $0 -c $0 -c $0 -c $0 < 1371578256 60633 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run $0 -c $0 -c $0 -c $0 -c $0 -c $0 -c $0 -c $0 -c echo $0 < 1371578258 392303 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: cannot set terminal process group (-1): Inappropriate ioctl for device \ bash: no job control in this shell \ bash-4.1$ < 1371578273 599429 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1371578287 298242 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: cannot set terminal process group (-1): Inappropriate ioctl for device \ bash: no job control in this shell \ bash-4.1$ < 1371578309 623198 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hrm < 1371578406 660539 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps you ran out of ptys or something? < 1371578534 814979 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah < 1371578542 802449 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :It just did something different < 1371578672 939977 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, it's probably something to do with HackEgo's sandboxing < 1371578804 759262 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-196-105.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run $0 -c $0 -c yes < 1371578816 18980 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-196-105.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok... < 1371578835 781406 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: cannot set terminal process group (-1): Inappropriate ioctl for device \ bash: no job control in this shell \ bash-4.1$ < 1371579734 226451 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1371579741 64657 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1371580116 275904 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run bash -c 'echo hi' < 1371580117 443824 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1371580152 590795 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run bash < 1371580167 436965 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1371580183 556514 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: cannot set terminal process group (-1): Inappropriate ioctl for device \ bash: no job control in this shell \ bash-4.1$ < 1371580189 466156 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1371580251 722343 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: i think the problem is the -c's aren't actually _nested_, but done in parallel, so you are running bash instances with no arguments, which means interactive. < 1371580281 974557 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're going to need some fearsome escaping to get them nested < 1371580283 651958 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash -c "bash -c echo foo"? < 1371580308 635169 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*nested deeply < 1371581894 841729 :brendalis!~canaima@190.74.113.136 JOIN :#esoteric < 1371581918 983047 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: so have you heard about your younger brother? His name is Oliver. < 1371581922 299413 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :He was born about a month ago. < 1371581923 475882 :brendalis!~canaima@190.74.113.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HOLA < 1371581924 64826 :brendalis!~canaima@190.74.113.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CHAO < 1371581927 310949 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi brendalis. < 1371581960 721227 :brendalis!~canaima@190.74.113.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :YO SOY BRENDALIS < 1371581962 21207 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-196-105.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? welcome.es < 1371581964 31123 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​¡Bienvenido al centro internacional para el diseño y despliegue de lenguajes de programación esotéricos! Para obtener más información, echa un vistazo a nuestro wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (Para el otro tipo de esoterismo, prueba #esoteric en irc.dal.net.) < 1371581985 877778 :brendalis!~canaima@190.74.113.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :NADA < 1371582052 813391 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? welcome.ru < 1371582054 357339 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :welcome.ru? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1371582058 250376 :brendalis!~canaima@190.74.113.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO HAY NADIEN < 1371582090 767104 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? welcome.bf < 1371582092 700546 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :welcome.bf? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1371582095 595913 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1371582115 271037 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: i think that might not fit on one irc line hth < 1371582169 641851 :brendalis!~canaima@190.74.113.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D < 1371582433 365130 :brendalis!~canaima@190.74.113.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HOLA :) < 1371582461 987390 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tswett < 1371582464 866788 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett is livin' it up with the penguins < 1371582472 547239 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote nephew < 1371582474 469402 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :173) elliott: just to bring you up to speed, you are now my baby nephew. wtf, elliott is a nephew and his uncle is here? what Heck yes I'm elliott's uncle. < 1371582492 637442 :brendalis!~canaima@190.74.113.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :COMO ESTA:-[ < 1371582497 579338 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett, have you come to terms with being australian yet < 1371582520 431649 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: yep. < 1371582520 503575 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :brendalis, donde esta la biblioteca < 1371582531 931248 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gudday mate. Drop bears. < 1371582574 506784 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'; DROP BEARS -- < 1371582609 481340 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett, also dingoes < 1371582614 547798 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and shrimps on barbies < 1371582624 852210 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also don't australians say 'cunt' a lot) < 1371582640 689523 :brendalis!~canaima@190.74.113.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO < 1371582668 414668 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry brendalis-- wait what do you know about australia < 1371582682 490674 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh right, right. Cunt. < 1371582708 123303 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cunt cunt cunt. Barbie. Drop bears. Dingo. < 1371582731 565282 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :crikey < 1371582735 329381 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't forget crikey < 1371582743 197530 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Crikey cunt koala. < 1371582748 42467 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-196-105.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ew < 1371582748 159902 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and 'mate', but i was leaving that one out because it was so obvious < 1371582780 509760 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ahoy, cunt. Yarr. Barbie. < 1371582832 976752 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cambra. Kangaroo. < 1371582835 47773 :brendalis!~canaima@190.74.113.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO ENTIENDO TU HITIOMA < 1371582849 3455 :brendalis!~canaima@190.74.113.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1371582850 94056 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bloq mayús: control de crucero para impresionar < 1371583008 523407 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :brendalis, no es obvio a estas alturas que se trata de un canal de habla Ingl�s (y finland�s) < 1371583028 178387 :brendalis!~canaima@190.74.113.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1371583036 220971 :brendalis!~canaima@190.74.113.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :se treta de hablar en español < 1371583075 477077 :brendalis!~canaima@190.74.113.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :y para que sepas < 1371583075 588883 :brendalis!~canaima@190.74.113.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :y veas que es en español metete < 1371583084 89038 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hola brendalis, ¿cómo estás? < 1371583084 624734 :brendalis!~canaima@190.74.113.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mañana y ya veras < 1371583091 311087 :brendalis!~canaima@190.74.113.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bn y tu < 1371583111 95532 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ves que no vas a encontrar a nadie a hablar con usted aqu�, sino por google translate < 1371583125 553054 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mm, bien. < 1371583143 681991 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Por qu� me tienes que socavar Tswett < 1371583151 282031 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, cómo se dice "I've been playing Starcraft". < 1371583159 375022 :brendalis!~canaima@190.74.113.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :jajajajaja < 1371583161 537833 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Qué es "socavar"? < 1371583167 219669 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1371583180 576 :brendalis!~canaima@190.74.113.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :te caiste con los kilos menol < 1371583180 901857 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :google translate... can't keep track of subjects and objects < 1371583194 379039 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Yo no comprendo nada < 1371583214 280003 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: me parece correcto. "Por qué me tienes que socavar" = "why do you have to undermine me". < 1371583250 894212 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In that case it got confused when I put it back into English to see if it made any sense. < 1371583290 504324 :sebbu3!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1371583337 581193 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :"He estado jugando", eh? Bueno... he estado jugando Starcraft. Trato de entrar en la Silver League. < 1371583357 220146 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett, why... < 1371583364 372746 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why isn't silver league translated into spanish < 1371583373 634650 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bueno, bueno. < 1371583378 151023 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trato de entrar en la liga Silver. < 1371583389 77882 :brendalis!~canaima@190.74.113.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :de donde heres < 1371583413 352165 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1371583432 556673 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Soy de los EEUU. Míchigan. < 1371583436 27035 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1371583501 138366 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1371583557 485905 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK so < 1371583570 699832 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :surely somewhere there is a website with dimensions of things < 1371583583 838029 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if you need a quick comparison you can look one up < 1371583653 276461 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :howbigisthething.com < 1371583654 38084 :sebbu3!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1371583675 228549 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(note: that does note exist) < 1371583706 619055 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, does it note? < 1371583723 178491 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :PUES < 1371583725 436647 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :A ESTUDIAR < 1371583743 127567 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :ADIÓS A TODOS my good friends < 1371583784 85484 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1371583982 987510 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1371583996 237641 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1371584213 987032 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1371584678 877012 :brendalis!~canaima@190.74.113.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :odos haqui son aburrido yo me voy para chat version 2 < 1371584678 988697 :brendalis!~canaima@190.74.113.136 PART :#esoteric < 1371584719 251463 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :jag förstår inte < 1371584857 485004 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that person randomly messaged me too... < 1371584862 710918 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :did he PM everyone or something? < 1371584957 396974 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1371584959 441632 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no he did not < 1371584967 876721 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps he thought your nick was spanish < 1371584999 184710 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh < 1371585096 968628 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :random people who just joined pming you sure is weird < 1371585106 187189 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i never get randomly messaged........is my nick not intriguing enough < 1371585132 180474 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is weird :/ though sometimes I wish it happened a little more often... or well, maybe not the random people who just joined part. < 1371585568 751275 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I sometimes get randomly messaged on here < 1371585601 419741 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably because of ##gaygeeks < 1371585626 807916 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: once, some hebrew speaking guy will message you out of nowhere hth < 1371585648 33837 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :freenode has lgbt channels? huh, cool < 1371585654 406001 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: oh that happens sometimes < 1371585675 40805 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should make my name more obviously dutch... < 1371585684 183426 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: It has had for quite a long time < 1371585688 202665 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :njooojdl < 1371585689 975712 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hear half of #haskell is dutch < 1371585694 493583 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although #gaygeeks is more popular than ##gaygeeks < 1371585707 901132 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's... two different ones? < 1371585708 286238 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(njiiijdl?) < 1371585718 863523 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :njiiijdlsch < 1371585728 436686 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull, is #gaygeeks older than the ## rule < 1371585737 298051 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only get randomly PMed when I'm active < 1371585750 259074 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :most often when I'm telling someone new to #nethack that no, the channel is not about hacking into networks < 1371585759 85157 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*pfff* < 1371585763 439838 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: #gaygeeks was the original but there was a schism < 1371585763 609361 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably like 30% of the time their response is to ask the same question again, except in a PM to me < 1371585774 651642 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: that's happened to me ooonce i think < 1371585774 756052 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :active in politics? < 1371585776 221282 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's cute < 1371585784 484141 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull, over whether or not you should heed network policies on channel names? < 1371585785 302995 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't you have to be voted for or something < 1371585803 855118 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the joke is: prime ministered) < 1371585811 891863 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: No < 1371585813 421531 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: if i start a new channel and it doesn't have ## will i die < 1371585822 912877 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do believe it's quite a lot older than the policy < 1371585824 440520 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i watched a bit of yes, prime minister recently so that's probably the reason for the joke < 1371585825 962527 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is my biggest freenode worry < 1371585827 441694 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl, no it's like < 1371585847 700957 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're the 'official' representative of that name you can have # < 1371585850 156378 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise ## < 1371585865 634234 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fwvo 'official'? < 1371585867 210342 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if the name starts with # < 1371585892 291571 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then an official channel is ##hi and an unofficial one is ###hi < 1371585907 260129 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if the name is an infinite sequence of #s < 1371585912 816509 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm i guess that COULD conflict with like < 1371585916 487454 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the unofficial channel for "hi" < 1371585917 605693 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :then the official and unofficial channels are the same channel < 1371585926 213873 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no they're not < 1371585937 400361 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the unofficial channel for hi is the official channel for #hi < 1371585954 532176 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf is talking to himself hth < 1371586005 610713 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :thoooooooodl < 1371586126 862348 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow. the dutch word for "propyne" is pronounced "propene" < 1371586133 229706 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the dutch word for "propene" is pronounced "propane" < 1371586152 771378 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the dutch word for "propane" is pronounced "pro-pahn" < 1371586249 839576 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just english that has its vowels wrong < 1371586512 113003 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :How is the dutch word for "propahn" pronounced? < 1371586570 262765 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm "propahn" is a fixed point here < 1371586688 276824 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> words . repeat $ propahn < 1371586690 561491 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `propahn' < 1371586697 30185 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> words . repeat $ "propahn" < 1371586698 55004 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `GHC.Types.Char' < 1371586698 141955 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : with actual type... < 1371586702 273570 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> unwords . repeat $ "propahn" < 1371586703 256464 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : "propahn propahn propahn propahn propahn propahn propahn propahn propahn pr... < 1371586725 577291 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl, is there anything that would get shifted to 'y' < 1371586773 367183 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really < 1371586778 918769 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :man, how is "propyne" even pronounced < 1371586787 436318 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pro-pin or pro-pine? < 1371586801 123145 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pine < 1371586896 165123 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's prpn < 1371586906 10302 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :porn? < 1371586914 581503 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"propaine" would be pronounced "propyne" roughly < 1371586971 557468 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the same way e.g. "cocaine" is pronounced rougly as "ko-kine") < 1371586981 160533 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is? < 1371586984 311289 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the stress is on the /i/ part of the diphthong though < 1371586990 360201 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought it was pronounced co-cain < 1371586992 658416 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"ko-kah-EE-nuh" < 1371587002 432623 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(dutch) < 1371587021 270876 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait which language are we talking about < 1371587046 85193 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :english words pronounced as dutch reinterpreted as dutch hth < 1371587081 628839 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :but of course < 1371587627 362801 :brendalis!~canaima@190.74.113.136 JOIN :#esoteric < 1371587671 970179 :brendalis!~canaima@190.74.113.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HOLA < 1371587674 927482 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.freebsd.org/security/advisories/FreeBSD-SA-13:06.mmap.asc 'Due to insufficient permission checks in the virtual memory system, a tracing process (such as a debugger) may be able to modify portions of the traced process's address space to which the traced process itself does not have write access.' < 1371587688 234449 :brendalis!~canaima@190.74.113.136 PART :#esoteric < 1371587713 740611 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooooh. that's sneaky < 1371587726 657839 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1371587745 410453 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so basically, Foo opens a file for read, Bar opens a debugger and connects it to Foo, and Bar abuses its debugger access to modify the file. < 1371587750 649358 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1371587756 653856 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm guessing mmappish? < 1371587759 565786 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :all of which you can do without special privileges < 1371587764 817984 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah Foo mmaps the file < 1371587779 506913 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so yeah you can write to any file you have permission to read < 1371587827 89517 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.113 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1371587860 49030 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's evil < 1371587874 64162 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-220-232.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1371587933 110733 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Linux has a history of dumb bugs too, but I feel like this particular one would have been discovered quickly in Linux < 1371587944 409937 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure though < 1371587963 943921 :clog!~nef@bespin.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1371587964 987709 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ptrace is like an infinite source of privilege escalation bugs < 1371587971 823027 :clog!~nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1371587989 639981 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah... I remember seeing it show up a lot < 1371587992 759620 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems like it'd be super hard to secure < 1371587996 762758 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-196-105.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1371587997 755623 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1371588006 63550 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :scariest parts of linux: ptrace, backwards compat layers, gpu access, any little-used driver / filesystem / protocol < 1371588012 62357 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok that might be most of linux ;) < 1371588037 630637 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-220-232.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :burn!! < 1371588062 3035 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gpu access is probably scary everywhere >_< < 1371588072 739260 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've heard that amd/nvidia drivers are something like as big as the entire linux kernel source tree < 1371588075 826366 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1371588093 666094 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the open-source drivers are smaller, but still awful terrible code, plus they're based on an incomplete understanding of the hardware < 1371588093 985445 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's terrifying, it's like, the drivers /just for a single piece of hardware/ are like, bigger than all the other drivers < 1371588102 536706 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I meant like the official ones < 1371588108 948409 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey i have a great idea let's make all of that attack surface accessible to untrusted javascript code < 1371588112 775951 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1371588115 361837 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-220-232.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1371588163 741660 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assume there is also a large amount of code that runs on the card itself < 1371588230 60825 :clog!~nef@bespin.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1371588239 430140 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :at this point I basically understand a "computer" to be a network of specialized computers communicating over various buses < 1371588250 780660 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-226-204.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1371588375 61943 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-232.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1371588458 192365 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-226-204.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://24.media.tumblr.com/a0ad2807df0a09e378e1adf7d60ebced/tumblr_molqtoCHcF1qh3h8wo1_500.png PRISM comix < 1371588463 512442 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hey wow python has "cyclic infinite lists" < 1371588482 21488 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a = [1, [2, [3, None]]]; a[1][1][1] = a < 1371588503 628972 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike_, this is the kind of prism comix i can get behind < 1371588630 514759 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-233-173.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1371588640 710546 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: it still kind of amazes me that like, this "graphics driver" thing converts things like opengl and directx commands, in crazy ultra fast realtime, into a bunch of like, floating point assembly code that gets run on the gpu < 1371588644 817086 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-233-173.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: so uh, the same infinite lists you get in anything with modifiable lists? < 1371588648 30147 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and somehow it like, all works, and happens in milliseconds < 1371588648 786416 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-233-173.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: was opposed to what < 1371588663 526740 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean in the general sense < 1371588694 854699 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yup, except they're not actually infinite lists < 1371588706 284701 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-233-173.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's not infinite about it < 1371588708 951905 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a contains itself but isn't a sublist of itself < 1371588711 596589 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-233-173.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: i don't get it < 1371588735 249112 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-233-173.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: well that's because you're using arrays in that way. < 1371588740 955224 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-233-173.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you define "sublist" appropriately... < 1371588745 217936 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to use a as a "linked list" kinda thing. there's no way to actually construct [1, 2, 3, 1, 2, 3, ...] < 1371588773 725182 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-226-204.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1371588842 139124 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1371588867 519396 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fucking hell < 1371589015 481331 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-233-173.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1371589026 196384 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should use an IRC bouncer thing <.< < 1371589073 286938 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or an irc client running on a server thing < 1371589077 812906 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one < 1371589104 882441 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :isnt that like the same thing? or... < 1371589123 949105 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds complicated < 1371589205 512824 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sort of the same thing < 1371589233 833669 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :with a bouncer you run a local IRC client that connects to the bouncer < 1371589240 267046 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :somehow < 1371589252 491998 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it's simpler to just run irssi on the server and ssh/mosh in < 1371589257 210513 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i haven't tried the bouncer approach < 1371589266 579273 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1371589328 890877 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1371589335 333347 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've only done the latter thing < 1371589901 110640 :clog!~nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1371589962 9961 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be simple if bitlbee hadn't just utterly broken around when my iptables rules disappeared < 1371589996 375327 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1371590010 296887 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi sent me messages and i don't know what they are about < 1371590018 940312 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also check out Minbif. < 1371590028 927686 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think he must be replying to messages i sent a million years ago < 1371590457 91442 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1371590673 171718 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1371591139 164927 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can also do the thing where the irssi on the server *is* the bouncer you connect to. < 1371591176 743109 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh? < 1371591180 651236 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's an irssi module called "proxy" for that. < 1371591189 967492 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though it's been kind of sucky at times; I don't know how it is nowadays. < 1371591193 794988 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :odd < 1371591216 237356 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm bouncer method seems less secure too, unless you bother tunneling it over ssh < 1371591228 726144 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's for people who have a shell account somewhere and irssi there, but also want to use a GUI client when at home. < 1371591233 598322 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you may trust the connection from your server to freenode more than random laptop public wifi < 1371591244 951085 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or you do SSL; I think most bouncers support that. < 1371591250 942652 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mine does authentication with client certs. < 1371591253 97474 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you have to juggle certs :( < 1371591256 88558 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well ok < 1371591257 997263 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :quassel supports SSL, it seems? < 1371591262 527263 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm biased because Mosh ;P < 1371591288 542456 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i knew a guy who ran all of his laptop network traffic through OpenVPN in UDP mode < 1371591297 653095 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so all of his local clients would roam < 1371591308 967936 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was pretty sweet < 1371591333 58406 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think 99% of my talk through the bouncer these days comes through the irssi running on the same server as the bouncer; I just had this period of trying out a number of clients, and the bouncer made that easier. < 1371591348 878444 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The last percent is that Android IRC client thing.) < 1371591454 148739 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :client+server+bouncer is kind of an odd architecture... < 1371591478 962066 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes it's client-client + client-server + bouncer + server. < 1371591515 249975 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though maybe people who use clients that involve a separate server component don't do bouncers? < 1371591574 134522 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm talking to you right now by typing on a keyboard which emulates a 1980s keyboard protocol to talk to an X server which sends those keystrokes over a UNIX socket to another program which emulates a 1970s terminal and sends them on to another program which encrypts them and sends them out in UDP packets to another program emulating a 1970s terminal, running on an OS derived from a hobbyist's recreation of 1980s UNIX, which is actual < 1371591581 113539 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ogram inside that terminal then talks to freenode < 1371591597 925963 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, computers are dumb < 1371591603 618813 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no they are the best < 1371591622 296249 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is cool how "building on the ruins" it obviously is < 1371591628 742242 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1371591638 616387 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :soon Linux and x86 will just be a compatibility layer < 1371591643 562321 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially during boot~ < 1371591647 992468 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :providing none of the actual services they were designed to < 1371591664 285671 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"-- which is actual" "ogram inside --" there seems to be a bit of a discontinuity there. < 1371591680 475150 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually compiled to run as a virtual machine on another OS I don't have access to, and the program inside that terminal then talks to freenode < 1371591689 199076 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, i was copy-pasting from a description i gave earlier elsewhere < 1371591695 826295 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because damn if I can be bothered to type that all again < 1371591709 65987 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like that interview question "You type google.com at a browser and hit enter. What happens?" < 1371591726 301325 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i'm ever asked that i swear i'll answer with monadology < 1371591734 771894 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hope so < 1371591747 454794 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone told me that good candidates start with switch debouncing < 1371591763 205044 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Perfect! We've been looking for philosopher to join the DogBook team" < 1371591763 980013 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about the people who start scribbling down the wave function of the enter key? < 1371591783 504638 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of these days i should learn how transistors work < 1371591795 969104 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i'm taking "design of logic circuits" this semester < 1371591802 655600 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds cool < 1371591804 171057 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that remotely electronicy, or more like vhdl < 1371591813 123873 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably the latter i guess < 1371591815 334375 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't sound very electronicy. < 1371591823 834025 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But of course you can't trust names. < 1371591827 305948 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hope i can take a good course on circuitry sometime < 1371591833 127375 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i do have elctrodynamics at some point so that's nice. < 1371591856 690449 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i really blew off freshman E&M < 1371591860 301756 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes i regret it, a little < 1371591861 807415 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :We had some obligatory eletronics, but it was mostly just calculating numbers in circuits with op-amps in them. < 1371591868 501365 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boo. < 1371591880 325685 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i might have to take electrophysiology at some point. now that's something to look forward to < 1371591899 645097 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Some people seem to consider op-amps quite holy.) < 1371591910 620023 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"so you know how capacitors work, right? well a cell membrane is like a capacitor. but ALSO like a resistor. Plus it varies across the surface" < 1371591944 17827 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :transmission lines are also that < 1371591965 357735 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know what's kind of weird? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skin_effect < 1371591991 950332 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is weird < 1371591993 392144 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know what's kind of weird? Physics. < 1371591996 265154 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love that kind of thing < 1371592007 835416 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it feels so... topological? geometric? < 1371592008 858680 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :from what i can tell electrophysiology doesn't work with basic electrodynamics very well < 1371592021 333818 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :since you have like, proteins transporting individual calcium ions < 1371592028 731479 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was at MITERS and they were using braided conductors for some kind of scary high voltage and/or high current project < 1371592031 703824 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you even get a voltage out of that < 1371592084 364136 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually do you know what the REALLY high current "crush metal objects with magnetic fields" project used for a conductor? copper pipe with coolant flowing through it < 1371592087 730410 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: wow transmission lines look hard < 1371592123 569819 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey Bike i heard the hairy ball theorem has applications in cell electrowhatevers < 1371592145 473939 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh it probably does < 1371592163 945123 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why ugh! < 1371592168 945168 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hairy ball theorem is best theorem < 1371592170 697849 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://everything2.com/user/iceowl/writeups/No+user+serviceable+parts+inside classic story < 1371592171 986606 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's just another cool thing i don't understand < 1371592226 98298 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i get up to http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/5/e/c/5ec607907b2588dc038c1ef0168475dc.png and my eyes glaze over < 1371592259 743124 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: that's kind of cool to see after i drove past bonneville yesterday. < 1371592275 386065 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1371592279 791960 :itsy!~digital_w@208.222.125.91.dyn.plus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1371592301 559249 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, jesus < 1371592311 627793 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the proof isn't that bad!) < 1371592334 462970 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: just, i drove through the columbia gorge, which is full of damns and massive fucking power lines < 1371592351 121090 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: wow fuck i just realized that's a fourth derivative ;_; < 1371592355 671959 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh cool < 1371592371 469272 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :communism is Soviet power plus the electrification of the whole country < 1371592373 695948 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's kind of neat to think that i get most of my power from a historic dam < 1371592383 544534 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :re electricity, i direct you to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmOfxuI_gXg < 1371592387 677968 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if everyone here hates the administration < 1371592393 720146 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess that's why there's a hydro plant on the seal of north korea < 1371592399 308496 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1371592411 435927 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: whoa ._. < 1371592416 525283 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1371592421 507310 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqgNrj6oEdc was the one i was looking for < 1371592445 542567 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You can actually help the electric company supply the world. Your electric meter runs backward and you suspect you've just discovered a great way for the university to save money through the totally inefficient, indirect generation of power through diesel generators." lol < 1371592454 213033 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the trollybuses in SF say "ZERO EMISSIONS VEHICLE" which I thought was kind of bullshit until I realized the electricity comes from the Hetch Hetchy hydroelectric plants < 1371592472 833208 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: i'm amazed the cameraperson didn't fucking bolt < 1371592490 705329 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a diagram of the yangtze < 1371592494 301906 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah those are the best Phantom_Hoover < 1371592504 209323 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :where it's like an elevation map and it has all the dams drawn on it < 1371592523 354309 :itsy!~digital_w@208.222.125.91.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has anyone designed their own tshirt with a program printed on it? I'm just trying to now via several online t-shirt studios... Unfortunately they're all a bit of a pain (not supporting monospace fonts, etc). < 1371592558 112724 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i used Zazzle once and uploaded a huge-res png < 1371592561 394496 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :worked fine < 1371592573 550495 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think they take PDF too but I wanted to do the rasterization myself just in case < 1371592573 795489 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i liked it because it made me realise that hydro power is basically just a matter of mass flow and potential difference along the river's course < 1371592616 688587 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, i wonder if they use that to teach how electrical current works. < 1371592629 541399 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that's the standard analogy < 1371592639 336019 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well water yeah < 1371592641 838440 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, gravity is < 1371592642 819561 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hydropower though? < 1371592645 185832 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was a shirt that says "Beweis: klar. □" in LaTeX / Computer Modern < 1371592653 705619 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno < 1371592669 245910 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe they do around here. hmmmmm < 1371592683 214012 :itsy!~digital_w@208.222.125.91.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I might try that, thanks... < 1371592698 73358 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could definitely do a good demonstration with it < 1371592703 237150 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1371592706 806255 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, awesome field trip < 1371592775 423743 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-UTYzfNjKM < 1371592796 267926 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's weird how "Computer Architecture" and "Electromagnetic Fields and Waves" are both EE... < 1371592812 742870 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :at MIT they put EE and CS in the same major even < 1371592824 331824 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :although you can declare like a concentration within Course VI < 1371592841 923718 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :really, i thought they'd split them up by now. < 1371592850 121078 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: The Helsinki metro advertises itself visibly as zero-emission in the regional-public-transit-route-finder guilt-trip emissions-for-different-modes-of-transit tables produced along the routes; that's because the electricity comes from "Finnish hydropower". (They don't give more details on that.) < 1371592850 865029 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: also: i'm never going to look at substations the same way again ;_; < 1371592858 331091 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"that was cool" < 1371592886 675043 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I think the trams too. < 1371592914 753338 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Oh, there's the details. "When you travel by tram or metro in Helsinki, you are using electricity produced by Finnish hydropower supplied by Helsingin Energia. -- HKL purchases the electricity needed for the tram and metro services from Helsingin Energia as certified hydropower, which means that the electricity is certified to have been produced by hydropower. Helsingin Energia produces ... < 1371592920 781869 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... electricity by hydropower at the Mankala, Ahvenkoski, Klåsarö and Ediskoski hydropower plants located by the River Kymijoki as well as at the Kemijoki power plant.") < 1371592938 233610 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh nice, there's an undergrad course covering ASIC < 1371592946 438423 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and FPGAs < 1371592961 262477 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: did you see there's a Coursera course on how to write your own VLSI design/layout tools? < 1371592964 348708 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds insanely hardcore < 1371592973 832048 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :jesus < 1371592997 949051 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why the hell is "Introduction to Computer Networks" (covering protocol layers, etc) in EE... < 1371593013 995058 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it's crosslisted. < 1371593020 612748 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION excited for school, sorry
< 1371593024 255757 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was wondering the other day if say Intel uses standard tools to design their processors < 1371593024 472973 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Because there are ELECTRONS in the COPPER. < 1371593041 726334 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or if they have their own in-house stuff that's more capable than anything on the market < 1371593043 220757 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"really, why isn't everything in the physics department" < 1371593066 343726 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, the other thing about the gorge is that there are a ton of wind turbines < 1371593066 415703 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except real maths, presumably. < 1371593066 687645 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we had a lot of CS/EE and CS/Ma cross listing < 1371593084 343065 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know what they're powering, because nobody lives out there, but whatever < 1371593090 261201 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and some CS/Ph and maybe CS/APh (physics, applied physics) < 1371593109 700319 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm amused that Ph 125 was quantum and Ch 125 was quantum for chemists and Pl 125 was philosophy of quantum < 1371593116 75000 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1371593125 722299 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :relativistic quantum chemistry is p. terrifying < 1371593140 232269 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There were quite a few wind turbines up in the Alps in Switzerland. (I guess it's windy?) < 1371593140 779028 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :starting with the name < 1371593144 169855 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also somebody pointed out that quantum field theory and general relativity classes were scheduled at the same time < 1371593147 153677 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so they conflicted < 1371593148 137825 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :relativistic quantum chemistry is amazing < 1371593156 429483 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's p. great < 1371593163 952704 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm glad quantum effects aren't really relevant to neuro because god < 1371593175 52719 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like "gold is shiny and yellow because of contraction caused by relativistic electron motion" askdjfls < 1371593192 354948 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1371593215 835523 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the GR textbook is a massive (heh) black book that says "GRAVITATION" on the cover < 1371593224 775375 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.amazon.com/Gravitation-Physics-Series-Charles-Misner/dp/0716703440 < 1371593237 723420 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas the advanced number theory text is a slim yellow volume titled "Introduction to Arithmetic" < 1371593260 464037 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :physicists have the best PR < 1371593306 307668 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i still haven't visited my university library and every time i remember that it troubles me < 1371593316 976834 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would you not < 1371593321 133779 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :those things are the best < 1371593325 714706 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :==Bike < 1371593330 835691 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've... not needed any books i guess < 1371593348 364321 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i tended to buy the textbooks that looked cool rather than the ones for the courses i was taking < 1371593352 801256 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike is like the master of devouring university libraries < 1371593354 399584 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's pretty amazing < 1371593385 546521 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :needed?? < 1371593400 648349 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i literally bought a book by kolmogorov, during orientation, on a subject i'll never use in my life < 1371593413 598720 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(because "wow, kolmogorov". i'm shallow) < 1371593430 282464 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Explore applications, including pulsars and neutron stars, cosmology, the Schwarzschild geometry and gravitational collapse, and gravitational waves" yeah those are good applications < 1371593443 761667 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Build Your Own Neutron Star In 21 Days < 1371593464 435134 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :collapse the false vaccum in your spare time using household materials < 1371593482 669931 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :learn how to overcome the schwarzchild limit with this one weird old trick < 1371593482 864412 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Discover the Astounding Properties of Nuclear Matter! < 1371593487 330866 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :..... XD < 1371593502 815809 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1371593504 39240 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :... oh gosh that reminds me of this thing < 1371593504 870973 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.oneweirdkerneltrick.com/ < 1371593511 766723 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that's the best < 1371593519 349317 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was made by some people the csloungers know < 1371593521 256012 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for SIGBOVIK < 1371593547 516194 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The possibility that we are living in a false vacuum has never been a cheering one to contemplate. Vacuum decay is the ultimate ecological catastrophe; in the new vacuum there are new constants of nature; after vacuum decay, not only is life as we know it impossible, so is chemistry as we know it. < 1371593552 559672 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, one could always draw stoic comfort from the possibility that perhaps in the course of time the new vacuum would sustain, if not life as we know it, at least some structures capable of knowing joy. This possibility has now been eliminated." < 1371593569 673910 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :snort < 1371593574 113335 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i read a sci-fi novel about that once < 1371593576 848375 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"What is Kim's secret to keeping off the pounds while pregnant?? The blogs say Kim eats corn one kernel at a time. But we're talking of another kind of weird kernel trick!! " < 1371593578 48305 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess it needs to be updated! < 1371593590 385257 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wasn't there like, some sci-fi novel where um... they were like, on a spaceship fleeing a vacuum collapse-esque thing? < 1371593599 498745 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: which novel < 1371593601 93875 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that's the one < 1371593604 822148 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :schild's ladder < 1371593609 869362 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, is it going to turn out that Kim stays slim while pregnant by contributing to Linux? < 1371593612 174109 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :by egan, so, weird < 1371593617 812832 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrong sense of "kernel" taneb < 1371593618 487459 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and another where the far future denizens of the heat death universe sent messeners back in time to cause a vacuum collapse to spawn new universes rather than forever inhabit a dead one < 1371593622 48764 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good guess though! < 1371593641 160381 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that's um... gah. what was it...) < 1371593662 415162 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, optics for EE is 500-level... < 1371593675 640107 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"524 Advanced Computer Architecture 3 Instruction set architectures, pipelining and super pipelining, instruction level parallelism, superscalar and VLIW processors, cache memory, thread-level parallelism and VLSI." seriously how is that EE < 1371593680 256077 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what year are you Bike < 1371593686 885001 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh the book i was thinking of was _Time_ by Stephen Baxter < 1371593689 383254 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not Darwin's Radio... < 1371593691 261531 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :junior by credits < 1371593692 880885 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh! That might have been it < 1371593694 886744 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such an event would be one possible doomsday event. It was used as a plot device in a science-fiction story in 1988 by Geoffrey A. Landis,[16] in 2000 by Stephen Baxter,[17] and in 2002 by Greg Egan.[18] < 1371593698 639267 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean i'll never be taking these things, but still < 1371593702 496816 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun to look at < 1371593708 835934 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I once read a sci fi book where they had a space ship powered by American "chedder" that someone had put in a particle accelerator for a laugh < 1371593712 390908 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Manifold: Time? < 1371593722 673607 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember that book! < 1371593724 267506 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except the space ship was just a Boeing 747 < 1371593735 28639 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I read _Time_ and _Space_. < 1371593767 930370 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Xeelee books were really cool < 1371593769 453075 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the coolest class i could probably take is biomechanics: "Methods for analysis of rigid body and deformable mechanics; application to biological tissue, especially bone, cartilage, ligaments, tendon and muscle. " < 1371593773 163342 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially the civilization on a neutral star one *_* < 1371593776 417916 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*neutron star < 1371593777 497233 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the Unreal Tournament factor < 1371593793 993582 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, didn't dragon's egg already do that < 1371593794 603610 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I read anything else by him. < 1371593796 262411 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I? < 1371593831 851944 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ummm... I don't know < 1371593832 138319 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's ok if there's more than one book about neutron star civilizations, imo < 1371593855 974879 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it tends to be like... totally crazy idea-filled books that are heavy on the silly sci-fi speculation and kind of light on the characters and stuff < 1371593865 354042 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so um, if you like that kind of thing it can be fun < 1371593868 758796 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: Sounds right. < 1371593868 918165 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hard sci-fi as it were < 1371593870 963925 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vacuum Diagrams was really cool though < 1371593880 598031 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do i get ostracized for liking soft sci-fi more < 1371593881 485861 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, no read banks you fuck < 1371593882 4015 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love sci-fi < 1371593885 640122 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is so easy < 1371593886 580986 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I loved the short stories in that one, I think his ideas kind of work better as short stories than longer ones < 1371593902 355542 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: huh? who's banks...... < 1371593904 814175 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my favorite ever was one the one where members of the resistance end up being caught by the Qax and are fleeing the solar system on a starship < 1371593908 228872 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but a missile ends up going after them < 1371593909 802572 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, tell shachaf to read banks, leverage democracy < 1371593916 966985 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the missile reconfigures itself over time to accelerate faster and faster < 1371593924 547885 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, my sci-fi is softer than your sci-fi < 1371593935 733132 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so they have to make more and more sacrifices, eventually brain-uploading when the missile accelerates to like 1000Gs < 1371593936 692116 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah well my sci-fi is so soft it's actually victorian romance!!! < 1371593954 515259 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they finally deal with the missile by passing by a rotating black hole, stealing energy from it in the process, catching the missile in the ergosphere < 1371593960 658644 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, *jolts to like 1000gs < 1371593963 571207 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :.... only to find they're now going so fast they can't ever slow down < 1371593965 696074 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, mine's a cold war era spy novel! < 1371593973 148864 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, laundry? < 1371593973 220824 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's been 10 million years in an unmoving reference frames < 1371593974 221226 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the hardest sci-fi is arxiv papers < 1371593974 550711 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*frame < 1371593980 536436 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol. < 1371593981 63829 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a paper on arxiv about how to build a self-replicating intergalactic exploration probe < 1371593983 946704 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc++ < 1371594000 412700 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :another paper about what to do to save earth when the sun blows up in 5 billion years or so < 1371594008 719626 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does require a fair amount of advance planning < 1371594009 691048 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: gosh that "neutron stars might actually be GUT-powered proton combustion chambers" was the best thing < 1371594014 454215 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: what < 1371594015 798479 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1371594021 505377 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2009arXiv0912.0520D < 1371594022 679270 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wt < 1371594024 646146 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :electroweak stars < 1371594030 643309 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :here's the "how to save the earth" paper http://arxiv.org/abs/0811.4052 < 1371594035 821549 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like really that paper is so cool < 1371594042 60441 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, Space scares me. Msg me when you have it sorted out < 1371594049 770017 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1371594052 752684 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :K < 1371594062 190865 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically its that at the core of a neutron star density could get so high it'd be like, 2 earths in the volume of an apple < 1371594072 196631 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the energy'd be so high that it'd hit electroweak unification levels < 1371594079 134662 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The source of energy in the core that can at least temporarily balance gravity are standard-model non-perturbative baryon number (B) and lepton number (L) violating processes that allow the chemical potential of B+L to relax to zero" help < 1371594080 666497 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that'd allow proton burning < 1371594091 490957 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: "gigayears" < 1371594099 445202 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :proton burning... < 1371594103 528121 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Saying that, being in the front of fast cars scares me < 1371594104 804024 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you get when you burn a proton < 1371594105 451253 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which would provide a completely insane amount of energy < 1371594111 389607 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm easily scared < 1371594112 622222 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :annihilation basically I think? < 1371594112 693972 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ArtSun, omg < 1371594116 445451 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so like, conversion to pure energy < 1371594121 698886 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1371594124 206496 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this really is sci-fi, nothing but sci-fi has such shitty names < 1371594124 278279 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, an oxidated proton, of course < 1371594136 381901 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :neutrinos + gamma rays or I guess I don't remember what it generates >_< < 1371594160 226989 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but because it's at the dead center, the redshift is so huge and neutrino capture is so huge that like, most of the energy won't really escape < 1371594179 264038 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, what department's classes should i check next... < 1371594196 516394 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm < 1371594207 357077 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then there was like the um. oh right. the one about how if antiparticles repel matter (unlikely but not ruled out), black holes should serve as massive antineutrino guns < 1371594208 860193 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: should i read banks y/n < 1371594211 217118 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like the part where they propose to adjust the earth's orbit by flinging asteroids past us repeatedly < 1371594212 787784 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Gods, Spirits, Witchcraft and Possession" is a good course title < 1371594213 220249 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm gonna go on a ramble to highlight how much I suck at physics < 1371594219 250494 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :banks is super cool! I started with Look to Windward < 1371594219 431512 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ready, taneb < 1371594226 932012 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: that is just the weirdest idea, the antigravity thing < 1371594230 349736 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Although the `swing-by'- idea is an elegant method it will have some inherent problems which must be mentioned, for instance, such as the problem of a collision of the `swing-by' asteroid with Earth." < 1371594234 272155 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, burning is sort of adding oxygen < 1371594244 601301 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, if you burn a proton, you add oxygen < 1371594246 6689 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: gonna need to remember that next time i see "elegant" in programming. < 1371594251 996913 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think burning here is a metahpor... xD < 1371594258 821950 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :one problem with these million near schemes is that civilization will probably collapse in the meantime < 1371594258 933905 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which would get you Fluorine < 1371594262 476847 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :million year* < 1371594270 633984 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: see, that's why we need soft sci-fi!! < 1371594275 862335 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The most common isotope of Oxygen has 16 neutrons < 1371594279 63950 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :soft scifi is cool too! I like soft scifi < 1371594280 780765 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :F-16 is unstable < 1371594297 27772 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :civilizational changes in the long term are often sadly neglected < 1371594303 242953 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about victorian romance < 1371594310 573523 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :vinge was ok at it, weirdly < 1371594323 690193 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it decays into O-15 < 1371594325 448166 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the future we don't have programmers, everything has software already so we just have archaelogists reverse engineering everything < 1371594332 814756 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :;_; < 1371594340 683053 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey y'all should i read _The Mote in God's Eye_ y/n < 1371594341 936914 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is pretty close to true already < 1371594345 359968 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1371594358 8557 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, O-15 is also unstable, and it decays into N-15 < 1371594360 486513 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeeeesss the motie books are fun < 1371594371 40316 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ｙ／ｎ < 1371594372 182185 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :N-15 is stable < 1371594373 343255 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's the sort of thing i wonder about < 1371594386 35604 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :since in terms of millions of years, i mean, humans have only had civilization for a few thousand < 1371594391 454305 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@cpc3-sgyl21-0-0-cust19.18-2.cable.virginmedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1371594408 574976 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :who knows what happens next. maybe disco could come back into fashion. anything's possible < 1371594415 969263 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@cpc3-sgyl21-0-0-cust19.18-2.cable.virginmedia.com NICK :Guest96863 < 1371594422 565931 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, burning protons gives you Nitrogen < 1371594432 208235 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And a proton < 1371594432 306635 :Guest96863!~Phantom@cpc3-sgyl21-0-0-cust19.18-2.cable.virginmedia.com QUIT :Changing host < 1371594432 378240 :Guest96863!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1371594440 681646 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :" folk concepts of sexual anatomy in traditional cultures in Western science" ooh la la < 1371594448 583161 :Guest96863!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 NICK :Phantom_Hoover < 1371594474 707827 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: but like yeah if I didn't actually post it here before < 1371594478 770822 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the electroweak star thing is cooool < 1371594480 783230 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, how much did I suck at physics < 1371594496 992175 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, i thought you were good at physics < 1371594515 407698 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, I'm better at physics than I am at, eg, Chemistry < 1371594526 996863 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1371594547 977745 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But when I have a physics problem I have a list of people to defer it to < 1371594555 162168 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you are pretty high up on the list < 1371594632 306333 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, I am off to bed now < 1371594634 239697 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Goodnight! < 1371594635 225390 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1371594655 786021 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nathan van doom < 1371594668 790316 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if western civilization will collapse and wikipedia will be like Natural History. or maybe it won't collapse, it'll just change gradually into something very different < 1371594678 608595 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess that's what "collapse" is anyway < 1371594689 883851 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we'll upload our brains into a 24/7 cyber orgy < 1371594700 498957 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which will last until the power runs out or the computers break for some dumb reason < 1371594705 979732 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1371594706 344900 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then that will be the end of humankind < 1371594712 547552 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :been readin too much sci-fi < 1371594716 984550 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the one hand, system shock 2 is only �5 and i am bored < 1371594724 814349 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you not played it? < 1371594732 628170 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :though that reminds me i should read uh < 1371594734 911646 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the other hand, i don't think i have the nervous fortitude to play system shock 2 < 1371594735 865915 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: imo read non-banks < 1371594752 154849 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one neuroscientist who proposed wireheading and mind control for society < 1371594807 714410 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: you could read, uh, the short stories book kmc was reading < 1371594811 117376 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: did you finish it < 1371594817 913586 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not yet < 1371594846 799920 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Anthropology of Epidemic Disease and Bioterrorism" now that sounds fun < 1371594855 981143 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i could go sit in... < 1371594893 465759 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Anthropology of Life and Death" is one for the album names list < 1371594983 937504 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1949537745/armikrog < 1371594988 148400 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :last chance for the $20 thing < 1371595039 64117 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :assuming it gets funded........ < 1371595065 248476 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the $5 reward is... a desktop image < 1371595204 700779 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: there are actually several algorithms for it, but obviously people don't just blab about it < 1371595215 494390 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait, i'm thinking of the discreet logarithm problem < 1371595215 718808 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for what < 1371595224 33919 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1371595235 150502 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the discreet logarithm problem sounds fun < 1371595245 228448 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :go out to a strip club, do some logs on the fly < 1371595260 929263 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: What's discreet, the logarithm or the problem? < 1371595272 406134 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know you said it < 1371595296 514196 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes so you get to turn it from nonsense into something meaningful < 1371595309 74123 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is re https://twitter.com/pbarreto/status/347115211259514880 new algorithm for discrete logarithm problem < 1371595318 295614 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1371595322 446079 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh nice. < 1371595322 891434 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you lucky human-powered, pedal-driven, single-track vehicle, you < 1371595340 736554 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok well the logarithms being discreet is too obvious since that's like the whole point of crypto anyway < 1371595343 105400 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like how you never hear about discrete logarithm-based cryptography because it's so much harder to describe than primes < 1371595345 599418 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i guess it must be the problem itself < 1371595366 943258 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't diffie-hellman discrete log? < 1371595371 912359 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1371595379 836807 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :DH is so easy to describe < 1371595384 606507 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, i mean in like popular cryptographic texts < 1371595384 722698 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/46/Diffie-Hellman_Key_Exchange.svg I always found that bit easier to understand thatn like, RSA <.< < 1371595389 304989 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :by which i mean the code book < 1371595389 890417 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*than like < 1371595406 128386 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does this mean DH is broken? @_@ < 1371595422 863777 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, the ffrench for "abstract" is "resumé"? < 1371595430 834235 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :blowing my mind here < 1371595436 299511 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't it mean like "summary" < 1371595441 785806 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you using stupid irc encoding Bike < 1371595444 327591 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah now that i think about it it must < 1371595448 262067 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: um i don't think so < 1371595451 498985 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this what it's been for everyone else when i said unicode characters < 1371595453 647233 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1371595459 602046 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ŕéśúḿé < 1371595461 472272 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know what i mean < 1371595462 235372 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and "curriculum vitae" means like "life curriculum"? guessing < 1371595465 181583 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :h́t́h́ < 1371595481 839877 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: probably "curriculum" means something else < 1371595488 698521 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :'curriculum' is something to do with deeds < 1371595495 8332 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: only for small characteristic fields, and i don't know if DH does that < 1371595495 735208 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i guess it's your life's deeds? < 1371595514 314174 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so like, their complexity argument fails for larger fields (?) < 1371595532 801971 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora that diagram is so confusing < 1371595539 972614 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1371595551 349616 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: i think it's exponentially slower the higher the characteristic < 1371595572 192492 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait it makes sense now < 1371595582 450682 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`WeLcOmE mnoqy < 1371595585 919574 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :MnOqY: wElCoMe tO ThE InTeRnAtIoNaL HuB FoR EsOtErIc pRoGrAmMiNg lAnGuAgE DeSiGn aNd dEpLoYmEnT! fOr mOrE InFoRmAtIoN, cHeCk oUt oUr wIkI: hTtP://EsOlAnGs.oRg/wIkI/MaIn_pAgE. (FoR ThE OtHeR KiNd oF EsOtErIcA, tRy #EsOtErIc oN IrC.DaL.NeT.) < 1371595593 860765 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1371595599 54140 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i asked for WeLcOmE not for wElCoMe < 1371595604 606972 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :get it right HackEgo........... < 1371595627 545959 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: it's basically like. alice and bob agree on a paint. they each add their secret colors to the paint, and trade the mixtures. then they add their secret color to the mixture they just got. now they both have the same paint again < 1371595640 920873 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know, i read the article < 1371595643 220017 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the weird thing is, it's possible to unmix paint. < 1371595645 89032 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :words are underrated < 1371595645 907050 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo fucked up < 1371595646 290586 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is one of those analogies that works as long as you forget everything you know about paint < 1371595652 931441 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1371595663 554254 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :paint, more like pain't < 1371595667 480941 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: chromatography for the win < 1371595670 562736 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, how do you unmix paint < 1371595680 280853 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :mix it backwards duh < 1371595682 218108 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, chromatography (but that's not really unmixing!) < 1371595708 573205 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it's not chromatography < 1371595709 68628 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i remember chromatographying some inks and paints as a kid < 1371595713 340775 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner's actually got it, let me find a video < 1371595714 241119 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :with just like some paper < 1371595757 221024 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that the thing you do with um... like, water climbing up the strips or whatever? < 1371595766 159886 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: if it's the video I'm thinking of, that's not paint they're mixing (and they don't mix it like paint is mixed either) < 1371595779 30364 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, yes but s/water/solvent/ < 1371595796 539533 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION greps logs. "Mexican people don't eat sugar, especially when it's a mixture of lice and tiger DNA"
< 1371595817 228727 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it started off racist and then went weird < 1371595827 117937 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: do you eat lice and tiger DNA? < 1371595827 888850 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: oh good, i'm quite sure that's what you get when you fnord... < 1371595845 371436 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, it is. < 1371595912 950923 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1371595920 181560 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Whom_God_Should_Not_Have_Created:_Persians,_Jews,_and_Flies came up in the same log < 1371595946 163348 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aha, found the video! < 1371595947 368755 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3YZ5veN_Bg < 1371595960 453082 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"steve spangler science" < 1371595967 611284 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is almost... informercially < 1371596002 576037 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they're only selling science (probably, i don't watch this show) < 1371596063 58400 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :agree with olsner also < 1371596147 34518 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1371596225 988445 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1371596336 798341 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1371596369 929769 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :if they say it's "never been done on tv" you can be pretty sure it's stupid < 1371596379 731129 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's legit < 1371596402 517619 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's legit in a seedy way < 1371596415 140142 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :meanwhile: i attempt to find an IPA for 'vajradhara', fail miserably < 1371596485 36880 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1371596503 737961 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps it's considered too obvious < 1371596611 799363 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem with ipa'ing is the vowel sounds < 1371596625 794125 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know where you are with consonants but the vowels are so fiddly < 1371596631 834287 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and really, who even gives a shit about them < 1371596654 146848 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuckers with their alphabets < 1371596656 647756 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :abjads for all < 1371596664 486259 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :abadabadoo < 1371596869 477000 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think half the things i use my email for is password resets. i'm the least secure person ever < 1371596892 357447 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the true single sign-on solution < 1371596929 719790 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's pretty much how i use it ;_; < 1371597032 244832 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do that but also i use the same three passwords for everything < 1371597037 925117 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :double insecurity < 1371597091 488921 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :three > one < 1371597138 392333 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i'd probably be better off if my passwords could all be quotes from books or something < 1371597143 333389 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :easier to remember than muscle memory < 1371597277 309031 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it kind of seems like that'd be more convenient and about as secure as littering numbers around the place < 1371597337 742351 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems more likely that people will lose passwords to phishing than dictionary attacks anyway < 1371597390 360661 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever, i'm not a security guy, can i just hire an intern to remember things for me < 1371597627 495434 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1371597641 340108 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i still have the three whom god etc. article open in a tab < 1371597669 848443 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like how they bother making distinct racial charictures < 1371597689 851940 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, other question, why are they called "discrete logarithm" and "modular exponentiation" < 1371597700 819513 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of both calling them modular (or both discrete, i guess) < 1371597759 839999 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i note that regular logs still work in modular arithmetic < 1371597806 645482 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, they do? < 1371597814 601273 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1371597826 47299 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you mean thea algorithms or < 1371597829 4827 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :with appropriate extensions to everything < 1371597842 298564 :itsy!~digital_w@208.222.125.91.dyn.plus.net PART :#esoteric < 1371597898 408116 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh man school has an intro to xenobiology, though they don't call it that < 1371597921 426123 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, was it called "xenobiology" or "astrobiology", i forget < 1371598450 202455 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can study astrobiology in turku < 1371598457 241667 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: i'm confused by what you mean though, like, modular exponentiation and exponentiation admit the same algorithms < 1371598516 211590 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.nordicastrobiology.net/Turku.shtml < 1371598536 57263 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean normal log for normal bases < 1371598561 907092 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh forget it it was a confused point to begin with < 1371598569 39691 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, sorry < 1371598716 406543 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: maybe it is because modular exponentiation is just exponentiation modulo p, while discrete logarithm has nothing (presumably) to do with the logarithm of the corresponding real number < 1371598745 990765 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i agree with you, the terms should mirror each other < 1371598893 132911 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1371599102 389714 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://vanilla-js.com/ < 1371599274 24320 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1371599305 753695 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1371599318 210232 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1371599377 381327 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, gunpoint made some large amount of money < 1371599382 966366 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's pretty cool < 1371599430 23161 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/ProgrammerHumor/duplicates/1gkw2j/vanilla_js_is_a_fast_lightweight_crossplatform/ < 1371599433 322757 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know what else is p. cool? < 1371599440 504460 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`smlist 405 < 1371599442 760508 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :smlist: shachaf monqy elliott mnoqy < 1371599472 594564 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's/:/${@:+ }$@:/' bin/smlist < 1371599476 380975 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1371599483 925828 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1371599893 414679 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :programmer. humor. < 1371599903 504993 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how often do they have an argument about whether it should be ProgrammerHumour instead < 1371599932 572868 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ProgrammeurHumeraux < 1371599961 263019 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :programmer humer....sounds bad < 1371599987 495850 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hope Programmer Humour is about the humour theory of personality < 1371599996 136652 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :me too