00:02:32 Sgeo_: does the byond on linux work, also why does SS13 say windows only help 00:07:10 -!- sprocklem has joined. 00:09:01 -!- Koen_ has quit (Quit: Koen_). 00:09:20 congratulation elliott 00:10:17 i bet armikrog will have a v. good soundtrack if it manages to get >$200,000 in the next 63 hours 00:11:44 maybe you'd be better off doing that in #moremoneythansense 00:11:51 is that a r. channel 00:12:04 d. w. j. u. a. n.? 00:12:15 ꙮ. 00:12:28 ꙭ. 00:13:02 Ꙭ. 00:13:27 ꙭ + ꙭ + ꙭ + ꙩ = ꙮ 00:14:22 multiocular O doesn't have majiscule and miniscule versions? 00:14:29 majuscule* 00:14:51 can there be a multiocular o that isn't majuscule 00:14:53 Bike, a non-graphical version works on Linux 00:14:55 i don't know 00:15:17 So in theory you can play if you don't mind just letters, I _think_. Also depends how well the game supports that mode 00:15:40 I don't mind just letters, but the unjust ones (like w) are a problem. 00:15:53 what the hell is the point of that. 00:16:27 I could be misremembering 00:16:48 But anyway, if a game doesn't support it, I think the letters default to being based off internal names of the types 00:16:59 e.g. /turf/grass might show up as g 00:17:00 iirc 00:17:26 This could all be obsolete, incidentally 00:17:33 WINE is probably a better bet 00:18:15 Although there's a builtin HTML renderer, I don't know if that uses IE rendering engine internally 00:19:13 ueueugh there goes any hope of playing it 00:19:30 WINE doesn't have a mock IE layout engine? 00:19:51 -!- Nisstyre-laptop has joined. 00:20:39 no, wine won't work for me. 00:22:11 Oh :( 00:24:26 -!- Nisstyre-laptop has changed nick to Nisstyre. 00:45:00 -!- katla has quit (Quit: My damn controlling terminal disappeared!). 00:51:18 kmc: today i saw a laptop with a screen on the lid 00:51:26 imo what's going on with that 00:51:38 weird 00:51:39 what did it do 00:52:07 it showed things 00:52:08 mostly pixels 00:52:27 i think it was this: http://www.asus.com/vivo/en/taichi.htm 00:53:05 fun 00:53:47 also i saw windows 8 "more like weirdos 8" 00:53:51 the joke is that it's weird 00:54:34 reminds me of windows 3.11 00:57:24 -!- nooodl has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 00:59:45 -!- augur has joined. 00:59:58 area man not in fact an idiot 01:00:34 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 01:01:45 -!- augur has joined. 01:05:10 lol 01:05:16 Area Man Still Has Voice 01:06:19 -!- hiato has quit (Quit: Nothing so gives the illusion of intelligence as personal association with large sums.). 01:07:04 Do you ever get the feeling that sometimes The Onion's goal is to trick people into thinking that it's real, rather than to poke fun at stuff? 01:07:10 At least some articles seem like that 01:07:54 http://www.theonion.com/articles/markets-in-turmoil-as-price-of-money-skyrockets-to,32939/ This one was great, I think 01:25:49 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 01:34:43 -!- FreeFull has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 01:35:31 -!- FreeFull has joined. 01:44:30 The trouble with Rust is that half the code you find is so outdated that it's a syntax error. 01:45:39 is that better or worse than Haskell, where half the code you find is an import or type error 01:46:56 yes 01:47:01 hth 01:47:20 how do i manage to use int::range :'( 01:48:18 ask future kmc 01:48:24 he'll be a rust expert!! 01:49:16 can future kmc be a time machine expert instead 01:50:03 would prefer both 02:13:23 -!- augur has joined. 02:15:51 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 02:19:53 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 02:26:47 kmc: someone on #haskell mentioned the idea of doing a simple-as-possible translation of core/stg/cmm/whatever to lua 02:26:50 so you can luajit it 02:26:53 yes 02:26:57 do that, report back w/ findings 02:27:06 asm.lua 02:27:24 I was hoping you would do it so I wouldn't have to :( 02:27:30 don't want to 02:27:48 harsh 02:27:53 but fair 02:28:11 kmc: p. sure you'll find that anything that involves elliott doing more work is unfair 02:28:25 kmc: <#haskell person> imageine 02:28:39 parse error 02:28:56 i've always wanted tail calls in html. 02:31:05 -!- surma_ has joined. 02:32:25 -!- surma has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 02:32:26 -!- surma_ has quit (Changing host). 02:32:26 -!- surma_ has joined. 02:33:17 -!- Bike_ has joined. 02:33:21 -!- surma_ has changed nick to surma. 02:34:10 -!- RainbowUnicorn has joined. 02:34:35 "The channel for "special" people |" 02:34:41 define "special" 02:34:47 you define it 02:34:53 spec anal 02:34:59 `relcome RainbowUnicorn 02:35:00 ;_; 02:35:03 ​RainbowUnicorn: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) 02:35:04 -!- Bike has quit (Ping timeout: 274 seconds). 02:36:53 oh i see 02:37:04 -!- Bike_ has changed nick to Bike. 02:37:08 does anyone here know brainfuck? 02:37:16 many of us 02:37:20 everybody here knows brainfuck. 02:37:23 o.O 02:37:30 wow 02:37:33 is it hard? 02:37:39 i was looking at it 02:37:41 not that hard compared to many esoteric languages 02:37:50 yeah it's pretty easy to learn. 02:37:57 ok cool 02:37:58 brainfuck isn't really designed to be difficult, so much as designed to be very simple and have a simple compiler 02:37:58 !bf_txtgen !bf_txtgen 02:38:02 ​109 +++++++++++[>+++>+++++++++>+++++++++>+<<<<-]>.>-.++++.>----.+++++++++++++++++++++.++++.----.<+.--.>------.>-. [344] 02:38:20 ..? 02:38:21 I can't actually write programs that do useful things in brainfuck 02:38:25 !bfjoust !bf_txtgen 02:38:25 ​Use: !bfjoust . Scoreboard, programs, and a description of score calculation are at http://codu.org/eso/bfjoust/ 02:38:29 oh, you can't do that. 02:38:31 or useless things. truly, I am a fraud 02:38:33 it's difficult because there are so few concepts in the language, but those concepts are pretty familiar ones for most programmers 02:38:53 oh cool 02:38:59 Fiora: Bike's command actually just generated a program that outputs "!bf_txtgen", there's no nesting of commands in EgoBot 02:39:04 Oh. 02:39:09 i;m creative 02:39:10 kmc: i heard that 98% of programmers die when they hear the word "pointer" though 02:39:18 so, how would you do: int a, int b, int c = a+b 02:39:20 have also heard 02:39:22 then output int c 02:39:24 I would change my nick to "TwilightSpockle" 02:39:26 But alas 02:39:27 @@ @run (@run text "2 + 2") 02:39:29 4 02:39:29 I am the lazy. 02:39:34 lambdabot does command nesting though! 02:39:37 RainbowUnicorn: that's not legal c even. i couldn't guess 02:39:43 trying to do addition in bf sounds really difficult... 02:39:44 RainbowUnicorn: if you google "brainfuck addition" you will find many results 02:39:47 in brainfuck 02:39:50 Fiora: nah it's not that bad 02:39:54 oh ok 02:39:57 you decrement one cell and increment the other in a loop 02:40:01 http://esolangs.org/wiki/Brainfuck_algorithms <-- our fine page on the subject 02:40:08 it destroys the first value 02:40:09 is that our only pge on the subject 02:40:10 that only works if your numbers fit in 8-bit, right? 02:40:13 yeah 02:40:15 and then, like, you'll somehow have to print it 02:40:29 yeah decimal conversion is... a lot more difficult 02:40:29 wait what's the cell size ot to do with it 02:40:50 though not particularly long given http://esolangs.org/wiki/Brainfuck_algorithms#Divmod_algorithm, probably 02:43:26 o.o 02:43:40 lol, i might actually learn this language 02:44:46 it's fun 02:44:56 :D 02:45:05 it looks... interesting 02:45:15 brainfuck has kind of a poor reputation here because of the number of people who make a trivial variation on brainfuck and try to pass it off as a new interesting esolang 02:45:19 tell us if you find the shortest way to print out 28187 02:45:28 but brainfuck itself is a fine language 02:45:36 "teach yourself brainfuck in 31 seconds" 02:46:14 ^? 02:46:32 joke 02:46:39 oh ok 02:46:55 "teach yourself drugz in 31 seconds" 02:47:01 (drugz joke) 02:47:04 RainbowUnicorn: other esolangs I recommend checking out: Befunge, Unlambda, Lazy K, Piet 02:47:11 others here can suggest a lot more 02:47:11 probably you've seen "Teach yourself C++ in 21 days" or "Teach yourself Prolog in 24 hours" sorts of books 02:47:13 shachaf: I don't know why I laughed 02:47:29 elliott: because drugz jokes are funny 02:47:36 kmc: you should add Underload to your list 02:47:53 RainbowUnicorn: you might also like BF Joust which is a 2-player programming game based on Brainfuck: http://esolangs.org/wiki/BF_Joust 02:47:55 yeah underload is good. 02:48:02 that isn't a statement about what you should tell people so much as a statement that you should become an underload fan because it's great 02:48:04 it has very deep strategy http://esolangs.org/wiki/BF_Joust_strategies 02:49:06 * RainbowUnicorn is back now 02:49:20 i was just looking through the algorithm thing for BF 02:49:22 neat 02:49:32 http://esolangs.org/wiki/Eodermdrome is another interesting, unimplemented lang 02:51:10 hmm 02:51:13 * RainbowUnicorn goes now 02:51:17 -!- RainbowUnicorn has left ("Leaving"). 02:51:32 `goodbye 02:51:34 ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: goodbye: not found 02:51:39 roodbye 02:51:40 rudebye 02:51:44 so uh... what are the odds on them coming back 02:51:46 -!- mnoqy has joined. 02:51:52 i'd say six 02:52:05 six over pi squared 02:52:08 Bike: uhh 02:52:13 Bike: those are evens 02:52:19 maybe you meant five or seven 02:52:40 hi mnoqy 02:52:57 hi 02:53:04 hi 02:55:28 #esoteric: where even "hi" is a complicated in-joke 02:57:24 kmc: your + balances out your name really well 02:57:29 I thought you should know 02:58:04 -!- augur has joined. 02:58:38 imo kmc should be dethroned 02:58:40 and devoiced 02:58:48 but I like listening to his voice 02:59:04 ↑ 03:01:27 whoa. I have no idea what kmc's voice sounds like. I have no idea what kmc looks like 03:01:34 actually I think kmc looks basically like edwardk in my head 03:01:43 do you know what edwardk looks like 03:02:09 I assume he's tall and vaguely imposing 03:02:48 + mushrooms growing in hair and shirt 03:02:57 and bike is standing next to him and resting on his shoulder or something 03:03:08 and elliott is jumping up and down waving his hands, trying to get kmc's attention 03:03:16 but kmc is so tall he can't see him 03:03:25 I truly have no idea where I'm going here 03:03:49 no i think this is accurate 03:04:05 elliott: kmc doesn't look very like edwardk at all 03:04:11 and I'm hiding behind bike. I tink. 03:04:12 *think 03:04:22 s/very // 03:04:35 too bad i'm basically made of skin and plastic and don't cover much area. 03:04:50 you have more forward-facing surface area than me! 03:05:32 Maybe I could be wearing a wind breaker to make sure you're hidden. 03:05:49 Bike: https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/9c51a8b8afa2366a2ef4650c411f187a?s=420&d=https://a248.e.akamai.net/assets.github.com%2Fimages%2Fgravatars%2Fgravatar-user-420.png edwardk 03:05:54 I could also present myself as large to deter predators, and envelop prey/cute girls possibly. 03:05:58 note "420" in the URL, proof that it's also kmc 03:06:57 y-you're just trying to get me flustered now <.< 03:07:16 Maybe. 03:08:08 biiiiike >///< 03:08:52 I do want to go around monster-ing people like a lizard now, though. 03:09:23 are there any pictures of kmc on the internet 03:09:36 p. not 03:10:09 pretty not?? 03:10:10 "p. not"... 03:10:31 "probably not" 03:10:35 come on disambiguate a little 03:10:39 no you can't do that. 03:11:02 i p. can 03:11:05 p. sure no one will stop me 03:11:24 fuck 03:11:29 -!- zzo38 has joined. 03:12:39 also bike which parts of you are plastic o_O 03:12:45 like where did the plastic comment come from 03:13:40 i pretty much imagine myself as looking like http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090812195141/half-life/en/images/4/40/Stalker_ep1.jpg 03:14:13 <.< 03:14:34 betcha can't prove me wrong 03:15:01 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 03:16:20 Bike: oh yeah, in which axiom system 03:16:55 Fiora: well he's a bicycle 03:17:01 they generally contain plastic parts I think 03:17:02 I guess a bicycle is not good for hiding behind 03:17:04 Bike: are you a bicycle 03:17:21 Ye. 03:17:22 still geez. you're pretty huge I thought <.< 03:17:26 Bike: i thought you were human 03:17:33 No, I'm humankin. 03:17:37 and just used the nick Bike on irc 03:17:48 you said you were like 5'11" or soething. that's a pretty big bike 03:17:56 i don't look that much like edwardk 03:18:01 i have short hair and i'm not as big 03:18:03 a bicycle built for nine~ 03:18:13 i bet Bike is a victorian bicycle 03:18:27 a penny farthing? i'm not that old fashioned. 03:18:36 yes, that 03:18:48 more like penny farting 03:18:49 edwardk has short hair 03:18:53 does he 03:18:57 i have poor memory 03:19:00 any hair shorter than mine is short 03:19:00 i thought he had, like, a ponytail 03:19:02 kmc: he shaved his beard 03:19:07 ok 03:19:08 and removed a lot of hair 03:19:12 it would have to be a long ponytail to count 03:19:16 a lot of it is back now 03:19:33 I think of myself as looking like a pretty stereotypical programmer... kinda pudgy white guy wearing a tshirt and cargo pants 03:19:49 kmc: when i saw you i thought you were unusual looking 03:19:52 but I don't anymore wear t-shirts with sassy nerd slogans on them, just plain black 03:20:15 and I don't have facial hair and I'm not super fat or greasy (opinions may differ on this) 03:20:24 I picture shachaf as being tall and skinny and I think having blond hair. I have no idea why 03:20:27 i used to wear tie dye more often 03:20:36 I'm sure I've seen a pic of shachaf online 03:20:54 inb4 shachaf links to that pic that isn't actually a pic. 03:20:57 elliott: i had blond hair until i was 3 or so does that count 03:21:06 elliott: oh good idea thanks for reminding me 03:21:15 shachaf: how does that work 03:21:26 I look like this: http://slbkbs.org/sb/1.png 03:21:37 XD 03:21:44 wow slbkbs.org, so last year. I thought it was all shachaf.net now 03:21:57 no hebrew IDN?? 03:22:02 kmc: not sure 03:22:35 kmc: i think there are pictures of me online from when i was 6.......... 03:23:30 i look like a stereotypical programmer except for being a long bike covered in slime and other organic compounds 03:23:30 * Fiora wears rectangular-ish black framed glasses, has long straight black hair with bangs, and usually wears a shirt with a sweater or maybe a light jacket and a casual skirt with tights? 03:24:10 -!- TeruFSX has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 03:24:34 -!- TeruFSX has joined. 03:26:07 Bike: where does the slime come from... 03:26:20 i became a biologist to find out 03:26:27 shachaf: what did you think was unusual about me 03:26:51 kmc: not sure 03:27:08 -!- augur has joined. 03:27:16 ok 03:29:14 appearance bandwagon submission: I look boring 03:29:59 except you have super long hair? 03:30:30 it's not actually super long 03:30:32 well it used to be 03:30:35 I mean it's pretty long 03:30:53 also I'm incredibly thin 03:31:14 i used to have longer hair than i do now 03:31:39 people told me i was a p. girl a lot at the time 03:31:46 "p. girl"........ 03:31:48 now they don't tell me i'm p. :'( 03:34:13 Hair cutting? D: 03:34:16 elliott's definition of boring actually means "adorable" 03:34:16 Who would ever do that 03:34:17 =x= 03:34:39 elliott: am i boring 03:34:47 I mean, except to maintain a hairstyle D: 03:34:55 that's not what I mean when I call Bike boring! 03:34:57 -!- Bike has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 03:35:02 (as far as I am aware I have never called Bike boring.) 03:35:29 -!- Bike has joined. 03:35:51 esoteric/2013-04-07.txt:05:26:16: you're boring, Bike 03:36:08 20:29 < elliott> appearance bandwagon submission: I look boring 03:36:13 I am going by that 03:36:23 i agree with both quoted messages 03:37:02 you hurt me, Bike :'( 03:37:08 Fiora: /set show_nickmode_empty off 03:37:26 shachaf: never 03:38:40 elliott: how adorable am i 03:39:08 Bike: ⅝ hth 03:39:15 -!- carado has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 03:39:18 Oh 03:43:21 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 03:49:54 * elliott yawn 04:06:29 * Fiora yawns with elliott 04:07:00 elliott: stop living in america time hth 04:07:33 what time is it in america 04:07:41 various 04:07:49 freedom o'clock 04:07:54 @localtime america 04:07:55 Local time for America is Tue Jun 25 13:07:51 2013 04:08:10 `run TZ=America/New_York date 04:08:11 Tue Jun 25 00:08:11 EDT 2013 04:08:19 `run TZ=America/Los_Angeles date 04:08:20 Mon Jun 24 21:08:20 PDT 2013 04:08:23 @time Fiora 04:08:23 Local time for Fiora is Mon Jun 24 21:08:23 2013 04:08:24 @time Bike 04:08:26 Local time for Bike is Mon Jun 24 21:08:25 2013 04:08:29 @time kmc 04:08:29 Local time for kmc is Tue Jun 25 00:08:29 2013 04:08:34 whoa. 04:08:35 so america is in like, india or something? cool 04:08:39 @time shachaf 04:08:40 whoa what 04:08:43 Local time for shachaf is Mon Jun 24 21:08:39 2013 04:08:46 `run TZ=America/Anchorage date 04:08:48 Mon Jun 24 20:08:47 AKDT 2013 04:08:51 conclusion: kmc isn't in America 04:08:54 `run TZ=America/Honolulu date 04:08:55 Tue Jun 25 04:08:55 America 2013 04:08:58 eff 04:09:02 `run TZ=America/Phoenix date 04:09:04 Mon Jun 24 21:09:03 MST 2013 04:09:19 ok well hawaii doesn't even begin to count if you ask me. 04:09:24 `run TZ=Canada/Newfoundland date 04:09:26 Tue Jun 25 01:39:25 NDT 2013 04:09:32 it doesn't even get to 2. starts at 1, goes nowhere. no counting 04:09:33 elliott: hey we stole it fair and square 04:09:37 good time zone imo 04:09:53 `run TZ=Oceania/Honolulu date 04:09:55 Tue Jun 25 04:09:55 Oceania 2013 04:09:57 fuck 04:09:59 this 04:10:00 noise 04:10:21 shhhh. it's ok kmc 04:10:21 @localtime lambdabot 04:10:21 I live on the internet, do you expect me to have a local time? 04:10:33 `run TZ=Pacific/Honolulu date 04:10:33 lambdabot lives in London 04:10:35 Mon Jun 24 18:10:34 HST 2013 04:10:44 stop ruining my immersion elliott 04:10:50 kmc: we're at war with oceania 04:10:51 silly kmc 04:17:10 great 04:18:37 anyway the real time is 5 am. 04:25:18 `run TZ=elliott date 04:25:20 Tue Jun 25 04:25:19 elliott 2013 04:25:26 WRONG 04:26:33 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctTVcKNx8Rk 04:35:17 kmc: i wish i had learned rust really well a long time ago but then forgot most of it 04:35:21 then i could say i'm rusty 04:35:45 which is probably the first rust pun everyone makes "but oh well" 04:36:17 anyway it looks like it's p. nice and also like it's p. p. immature 04:45:23 -!- augur has joined. 04:47:05 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 04:48:27 -!- augur has joined. 05:12:42 -!- sebbu2 has joined. 05:13:36 -!- mnoqy has quit (Quit: hello). 05:15:54 -!- sebbu has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds). 05:24:05 -!- Tod-Autojoined has changed nick to TodPunk. 05:36:51 -!- augur has changed nick to augur_. 05:37:05 -!- augur_ has changed nick to augur. 06:07:00 -!- sprocklem has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 06:19:39 kmc: ok you convinced me 06:21:38 of? 06:21:50 kmc: doing the luajit thing 06:22:08 or at least thinking that I should do either that or one of the two other things I think I should be doing without actually doing any of them 06:22:20 ok 06:22:33 step 1: delegation 06:22:40 shachaf: would cmm or stg be better to turn into lua 06:23:36 -!- Bike has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 06:24:37 -!- Bike has joined. 06:26:49 elliott: that depends hth 06:28:07 it did not help. 06:29:38 -!- Bike has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 06:30:55 -!- Bike has joined. 06:49:07 23:47 * shachaf heard a rumour rust was nearly stable... 06:49:11 23:47 < dbaupp> shachaf: heard wrong ;) 06:49:11 23:47 < aatch> shachaf, you heard wrong. 06:55:19 nice 07:24:01 -!- sivoais has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 07:32:23 -!- conehead has quit (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.). 08:04:49 -!- FreeFull has quit. 08:11:03 -!- Taneb has joined. 08:32:41 -!- sebbu2 has changed nick to sebbu. 08:40:08 shachaf: /set show_nickmode_empty off 08:44:35 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 09:13:50 Or don't 09:15:58 -!- epicmonkey has joined. 09:16:46 Deewiant: the joke is 04:37:08 Fiora: /set show_nickmode_empty off 09:17:14 OK, carry on 09:19:02 -!- mnoqy has joined. 09:42:36 -!- Koen_ has joined. 09:54:58 -!- atehwa has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 10:11:00 -!- oerjan has joined. 10:24:29 -!- nooodl has joined. 10:35:55 -!- serdar has joined. 10:35:59 -!- serdar has quit (Client Quit). 10:36:36 -!- shachaf has set topic: The channel for "ordinary" people | http://underhanded.xcott.com/?page_id=5 | logs: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D. 10:37:34 -!- oerjan has set topic: The channel for "scare quoted" people | http://underhanded.xcott.com/?page_id=5 | logs: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D. 10:59:28 -!- atehwa has joined. 11:16:37 -!- Nisstyre has quit (Quit: Leaving). 11:41:19 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 11:56:52 -!- MindlessDrone has joined. 12:04:13 -!- zzo38 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 12:12:49 -!- sacje has quit (Quit: sacje). 12:14:49 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: Lost terminal). 12:22:15 -!- oerjan has joined. 12:55:43 -!- carado has joined. 13:13:08 -!- Nisstyre-laptop has joined. 13:13:27 -!- oerjan has set topic: The channel for "scare quoted" people | where even "hi" is a complicated in-joke | http://underhanded.xcott.com/?page_id=5 | logs: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D. 13:14:13 btw codu logs are back up 13:14:17 you should fix the topic and then op kmc, hth 13:14:54 why do people keep drowning me in heaps of work 13:15:35 you could delegate some of it to kmc, hth 13:15:40 -!- oerjan has set topic: The channel for "scare quoted" people | where even "hi" is a complicated in-joke | http://underhanded.xcott.com/?page_id=5 | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric and http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D. 13:20:42 -!- Nisstyre-laptop has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 13:22:38 -!- TeruFSX has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 13:23:01 -!- TeruFSX has joined. 13:29:14 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds). 13:29:15 so america is in like, india or something? 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For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) 15:49:49 ?????????????????????????? 15:50:03 mnoqy: hi 15:50:09 hi 16:09:17 MTHR FUCK 16:09:25 FUICK YOU ALL STIUPID LOSERS 16:10:23 Hi. 16:11:43 hi 16:12:13 Semen_Dickman: That's kind of rude 16:12:51 -!- carado has joined. 16:12:51 -!- lambdabot has joined. 16:12:51 -!- upgrayeddd has joined. 16:13:17 -!- upgrayeddd has quit (Max SendQ exceeded). 16:13:40 -!- upgrayeddd has joined. 16:13:57 Semen_Dickman: you sound like you could use a cookie. and an anger management class 16:15:41 -!- coppro_ has joined. 16:15:53 -!- iamcal____ has joined. 16:17:26 quintopia: and a typing class, possibly 16:18:10 AnotherTest: i was assuming the misspellings were intentional 16:18:25 You never know. 16:19:22 all Semen_Dickman needs is a bit of love and some care 16:19:53 -!- iamcal___ has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 16:19:53 -!- coppro has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 16:19:54 -!- ion has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 16:19:55 -!- Lumpio- has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 16:20:12 -!- iamcal____ has changed nick to iamcal___. 16:20:16 -!- Lumpio- has joined. 16:20:26 -!- ion_ has joined. 16:20:28 -!- Vorpal has quit (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net). 16:21:18 -!- ion_ has changed nick to ion. 16:21:37 `seen flack 16:21:43 not lately; try `seen flack ever 16:21:50 `seen flack ever 16:22:21 No output. 16:27:46 the nickname semen dickman let me think he gets a lot of love... from himself 16:29:24 WHAT KINDA MOTEHR BUCKING GAY CHAT IS THIS FUCK 16:29:38 OKAY ANY WAY I DIPPED MY COMPUTER IN MY TOILET 16:29:41 NOW IT NOT WORKING 16:29:42 I NEED HELP 16:29:54 Have you tried in #toilets? 16:30:00 you definitly do 16:30:19 -!- jsvine has quit (Quit: Leaving.). 16:31:19 HEY SERIOUSLY I WANT THIS FUCKER GOING PLEASE HELP ME 16:32:06 yeah, people love to help people yelling at them 16:32:10 like, totally 16:32:19 insert obligatory hth here 16:32:21 -!- upgrayeddd has quit (Excess Flood). 16:32:45 -!- upgrayeddd has joined. 16:48:35 http://www.virtualshackles.com/421 16:48:49 Esoteric means what? 16:49:24 -!- jsvine has joined. 16:49:46 whats the best way to fuck a nugger? 16:49:51 go away 16:50:06 With consent? 16:50:06 mnoqy: You’re just feeding it. Ignore them and they’ll get bored. 16:50:07 mnoqy stop giving him attentoin 16:50:07 fuck you bitch 16:50:08 are any ops around? fizzie? 16:50:24 ion, katla: yeah, yeah 16:50:25 mnoqy imma go boom boom on your cow mother bitch 16:51:33 kind of curious how people do this tho 16:51:41 how people do what? 16:51:42 ????like, why??????? 16:52:05 mnoqy why you so stupid ...mothe bitch? 16:53:07 imma nugger can i place ma ass here yo yo yo? 16:53:39 SKeet Skeet bang bang nugga 16:56:44 can't we keep it and raise it? 16:57:04 poor misunderstood thing 16:57:13 myname 16:57:23 maybe someday it will even be able to talk properly 16:57:34 myname: i suggest you follow ion and katla's advice, it's working wonders for me 16:57:51 :D 17:00:47 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 17:01:34 l 17:05:27 -!- coppro_ has changed nick to coppro. 17:06:53 coppro? more like cockpro 17:07:33 Semen_Dickman: damn, you got me 17:08:19 nugga i aint catching any one 17:08:24 skeet skeet bang bang nugga 17:12:44 -!- sebbu2 has joined. 17:13:20 -!- Yonkie has joined. 17:17:30 -!- heroux_ has joined. 17:18:59 -!- coppro_ has joined. 17:20:23 -!- Bike has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 17:21:48 -!- coppro has quit (*.net *.split). 17:21:48 -!- Yonkie_ has quit (*.net *.split). 17:21:48 -!- sebbu has quit (*.net *.split). 17:21:49 -!- Gregor has quit (*.net *.split). 17:21:49 -!- heroux has quit (*.net *.split). 17:21:55 -!- heroux_ has changed nick to heroux. 17:22:08 -!- coppro_ has changed nick to coppro. 17:24:02 -!- Nisstyre has quit (Quit: Leaving). 17:28:03 -!- ChanServ has set channel mode: +o fizzie. 17:28:06 -!- fizzie has set channel mode: +b *!*@117.206.25.86. 17:28:13 -!- fizzie has kicked Semen_Dickman Semen_Dickman. 17:28:22 -!- fizzie has set channel mode: -o fizzie. 17:28:29 -!- Bike has joined. 17:28:42 (I'm kind of on vacation here.) 17:28:46 thanks 17:29:58 hi Bike 17:31:16 -!- Gregor has joined. 17:39:52 elliott stream that game again 17:47:49 `quote #toilet 17:47:51 380) * Sgeo mutters about broken toilets #toilet is useless is #toilet even a thing I'm looking for help with toilets 17:48:04 shouldn't it be ##toilet anyway 17:48:13 also if I had op power I could have dealt with the situtaion abov 17:56:10 -!- FreeFull has joined. 17:56:25 kmc, you already have voice power, don't get ahead of yourself. 17:56:36 fizzie, WHY IS GREGOR UNVOICED 18:04:14 -!- conehead has joined. 18:10:11 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 18:16:38 -!- Phantom__Hoover has joined. 18:18:45 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 18:25:15 -!- atrapado has joined. 18:33:44 -!- epicmonkey has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 18:56:12 hi katla. 18:57:27 wow did someone seriously just join the channel to act like a family guy joke 18:57:43 what are your interests 18:58:13 math, brains, legs, punching dickbags 18:58:37 which math 18:58:55 this machine punches dickbags 18:59:05 Right now I'm reading an introduction to real analysis. 18:59:45 cool 19:00:55 i know what a topology is now, it's all hella exciting 19:01:50 i dont really know abot topology 19:02:22 me neither, that's why it's exciting. 19:07:35 -!- conehead has quit (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com). 19:07:39 man, topology is the best 19:07:52 -!- conehead has joined. 19:08:22 tel me about it 19:08:50 i know the defeinition 19:09:15 the definition of what a topology is? 19:09:42 yes 19:11:07 well uh it lets you define continuity and convergence and stuff without a notion of distance, so that's cool 19:11:38 compactness 19:11:41 compactness is cool 19:18:55 > let f x = x + 1/x in map f [1..] 19:18:56 [2.0,2.5,3.3333333333333335,4.25,5.2,6.166666666666667,7.142857142857143,8.... 19:19:11 :t iterate 19:19:11 (a -> a) -> a -> [a] 19:19:27 > iterate (\x -> x + 1/x) 2 19:19:28 [2.0,2.5,2.9,3.2448275862068963,3.5530103704789475,3.8344618428159674,4.095... 19:21:43 mmmm compactness 19:28:19 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Quit: Leaving.). 19:31:57 -!- variable has changed nick to constant. 19:32:39 :[ 19:33:10 not a fan of constants? 19:34:55 attempt at strart discusion failed 19:35:16 yeah i turns out i actually don' know shit about anything 19:36:39 it happens when by it i mean me not talking 19:39:43 -!- epicmonkey has joined. 19:39:49 -!- zzo38 has joined. 20:03:48 kmc: now i'm looking for myrands. http://pastebin.com/5gSh5iXJ why would you write your own lcg like this 20:06:04 cute 20:06:39 https://github.com/cpuwhiz11/CS-School-Work/blob/b19e66cb38828e22bd1bcee31c923c95e62062eb/101/pg44.c good 20:08:10 cpuwhiz11 20:08:29 int ret = (int) (((float) n * (float) rand()) / ((float) RAND_MAX + 1.0)); "here let me sign your cast" 20:08:48 (signed)(float)x 20:09:44 hah 20:10:15 how do you design a random number generator? 20:10:35 "std::size_t ret = rand() % N;" i don't even know what's going on here 20:10:50 katla: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linear_congruential_generator is a place to start 20:11:32 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRNG ~ 20:11:56 so theres this Hull-Dobell Theorem 20:12:09 that tells you when a linear RNG will be good for all seeds 20:12:48 this particular kind, yeah. 20:12:52 and for certain values of "good" 20:12:54 then theres: 20:12:56 LCGs tend to exhibit some severe defects. For instance, if an LCG is used to choose points in an n-dimensional space, the points will lie on, at most, m1/n hyperplanes (Marsaglia's Theorem 20:13:02 yeah it's not great 20:13:08 but it's easy to understand, so, good for learning 20:14:18 -!- Taneb has quit (Quit: Leaving). 20:14:57 it's basically like, random number generators are a tradeoff between "fast" and "good randomness" 20:15:02 man RANDU is so great 20:15:05 and like an LCG is fast and simple but doesn't have great randomness 20:15:23 -!- Bike has quit (Quit: Reconnecting). 20:15:35 -!- Bike has joined. 20:16:13 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inversive_congruential_generator 20:16:16 thats so weir 20:16:17 d 20:16:25 x_{i+1} = c if x_i = 0 20:16:54 i suppose it doesn't matter though 20:18:40 doesn't matter? 20:19:01 my first thought was that might give a bias towards c but it doesnt 20:20:35 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linear_feedback_shift_register 20:20:41 well, assuming x_i is evenly distributed in 0..q it should work 20:20:45 this seems like thenext step up 20:21:10 nah, it's still linear. 20:21:21 oh 20:21:25 linear feedback shift register was the first sorta prng i learned 20:21:34 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berlekamp-Massey_algorithm 20:23:52 "const int Random::NewRand()" 20:29:37 so whats an example of a nonlinear RNG? 20:29:47 other than the inverse one 20:30:01 oh! blum blum shub 20:30:07 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blum_Blum_Shub 20:31:54 most are nonlinear really 20:33:34 like? 20:35:11 blum blum shub, mersenne 20:35:47 well i guess linearity isn't that important and i'm talking out my ass but 20:49:48 -!- jsvine has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 20:50:22 -!- Nisstyre-laptop has joined. 20:52:42 -!- Nisstyre-laptop has changed nick to Nisstyre. 20:54:37 -!- atrapado has quit (Quit: Leaving). 21:12:19 cool, Marsaglia's theorem 21:12:19 til 21:12:43 I know Marsaglia from MWC256 here: http://forums.wolfram.com/mathgroup/archive/2003/Feb/msg00456.html 21:13:54 «Just as the "Miss America Contest" judges have to[...]» ok 21:14:26 it's kind of awesome that a) Blum Blum Shub is named after the three inventors, b) the two Blums are married, c) they're both CS professors at CMU, d) their son is also a CS professor at CMU 21:14:37 he's also Blum right 21:14:40 yes 21:14:42 good 21:14:52 the blum dynasty 21:15:12 srand( time( NULL ) ) ; x = rand() % 39 + -19 ; 21:15:15 no 21:15:44 yes. hell yes 21:16:11 kmc: are they related to Blum the phd student at cmu 21:16:55 "Avrim is the son of two other famous computer scientists, Manuel Blum and Lenore Blum.[4] Avrim is the father of Alex Blum and Aaron Blum." 21:17:10 -!- mnoqy has quit (Quit: hello). 21:17:22 so, the blum dynasty. 21:17:28 this could rival the curie dynasty maaaaan 21:18:36 "Ève was the only member of her family who did not choose a career as a scientist and did not win a Nobel Prize, although her husband Henry Richardson Labouisse, Jr. did collect the Nobel Peace Prize in 1965 on behalf of UNICEF." 21:18:47 geez. talk about a high standard to live up to 21:19:25 Fiora: it is a nobel cause 21:19:56 * Fiora winces, hides 21:20:53 so i torrented apocalypse now 21:21:23 the torrent claims to be 1080p; except it's in widescreen, so there aren't 1080 vertical pixels 21:21:34 i feel cheated? 21:23:30 kmc: what kind of application would you need a 2^131086 period for O_o 21:25:01 -!- oerjan has joined. 21:30:52 -!- Taneb has joined. 21:32:10 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 21:32:37 -!- augur has joined. 21:34:48 -!- carado has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 21:37:07 -!- augur has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 21:39:41 -!- Taneb has quit (Quit: Leaving). 21:47:13 insert obligatory hth here <-- i think that's an incorrect format hth 21:48:24 * oerjan is trying that newfangled screen thing 21:48:35 i think i need a better command char than ^A 21:50:42 http://25.media.tumblr.com/8296d5c9a6b3bbe0fbfeca8776ccb055/tumblr_mo53okwvyG1s0s0n5o1_500.jpg 21:52:05 i don't see any pi... 21:53:29 -!- carado has joined. 22:22:01 dammit it turns out trying to set the screen command character to ^S (_so_ mnemonical) is _not_ a good idea. 22:22:23 took me ages to fix without killing screen :P 22:22:51 (fortunately i could do shell commands, and screen -X helped) 22:23:11 * oerjan settles on ^Y instead 22:25:46 ok back to this hilarious phallic guy in the logs 22:28:12 elliott: CLEARLY THAT WAS YOU TRYING TO SLYLY IMPLICATE WE NEED MORE OPS HTH 22:28:31 elliott, so idle 22:32:38 as is fizzie 22:32:58 the most pointless false flag operation in the history of the world 22:33:19 but it's working! 22:33:33 imo: op me 22:33:43 i can be trusted 22:33:49 O KAY 22:34:03 well, glad we got that worked out then. 22:34:21 (hint: O KAY doesn't mean yes) 22:34:54 tyrant 22:35:18 -!- sprocklem has joined. 22:56:52 http://tvpmassachusetts.org/?page_id=6 should I have voted for this party? they were on the ballot for some reason 22:57:11 Democrat, Republican, and Twelve Visions Party 22:57:16 no Green Rainbow this time 22:57:39 is this a fucking self-help stoner party 22:59:45 if you look at the top you can find the "Prime Law" which they want to replace the US constitution with 23:00:12 "I do not know where I got off track but I look at this and at other passages about women and realize that I have 23:00:15 taken on too much of a tomboy role and need to go back to being the woman God made me and enjoy 23:00:18 it. " 23:00:44 -!- sebbu has joined. 23:01:26 oh no, they're libertarians 23:01:51 Just curious if this was inpired by the three-article code of Liu Bang, the first Han emperor of China. 23:02:58 so how did they get on the ballot 23:03:10 lots of entertaining spam of the electoral people? 23:03:18 -!- sebbu2 has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 23:03:33 idk 23:03:49 http://tvpmassachusetts.org/?page_id=19#comment-1730 speaks to me on a psychosexual level 23:04:37 ;_; 23:04:49 it's fun trying to sort out the spam comments from the crazies on here 23:05:18 "Howԁy would you mind lеttіng me know whiсh ωebhoѕt you’re using?" 23:05:34 my d4d 3arns $7 512 per m0nth us1ng thi5 o/\/e we1rd tri(k 23:05:46 herb4l vjagra 23:07:10 -!- Phantom___Hoover has joined. 23:07:55 Now they add non-ASCII letters to trick them? 23:08:03 yes 23:08:49 Disable non-ASCII in those comments will correct that problem at least (but not all of them); whether or not such a thing would be suitable depend what kind of things are being commented on, I suppose. 23:09:44 i'll inform the twelve visions council immediately 23:10:12 -!- Phantom__Hoover has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 23:11:05 Of course this won't help 100% though; maybe only 5% or so but it might also help another thing other than spam. 23:11:47 Also, to fix the spam still require many more thing too. 23:15:54 Welp, I just reached the bit with the playmates. 23:16:01 That... was weird. 23:21:43 -!- oklopol has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 23:22:00 -!- oklopol has joined. 23:30:52 -!- kgoret has joined. 23:31:32 * kgoret gives ion a kiss. no reason in particular. 23:32:14 `relcome kgoret 23:32:17 ​kgoret: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) 23:34:39 * kgoret sings OOM BOP .. OOM BOT .> LAGHLRHUGRUHS HUUUHGHRH LURRHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHR 23:34:58 epic 23:45:32 we have a few too many k's in this channel, i feel 23:46:52 more like a few too many 's's 23:47:33 mm, the s situation is pretty bad 23:48:57 I have neither, is that good? 23:50:27 The capital F situation is dire (because we have three, and nicks should start with a lowercase letter). 23:50:39 :< 23:50:44 but I'm a proper noun 23:51:04 -!- Sgeo_ has changed nick to AProperNoun. 23:51:09 * AProperNoun isn't 23:51:12 You mean "I is a proper noun". 23:51:19 i seem to be a verb 23:51:20 And, no, I is a pronoun. 23:51:53 oh no in 2 days kmc is leaving massachusetts forever 23:51:55 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5IhPXEKNGE 23:52:07 shachaf: more or less? I'll probably visit at some point 23:52:19 shachaf: what about it thouh 23:52:28 nothing in particular 23:52:56 ok 23:52:58 okay, okay, Fiora is a proper noun 23:53:00 shachaf, is it because i is a proper noun 23:53:11 shachaf, I feel like an idiot 23:53:13 i ain't no proper noun 23:53:14 I am a person but 'I' is a pronoun 23:53:22 you'd think this channel of all channels could get quoting right 23:53:49 you'd think this channel of all channels would get quoting wrong on purpose 23:54:02 I wouldn't use '\'' to quote words even if the word is one letter 23:54:16 Well, maybe I would. Or 'I' would 23:54:16 rong on purpwse 23:54:26 AProperNoun: I'm waiting for the `olist update. 23:54:31 plz fix hth 23:54:33 * I :Nickname is already in use. 23:55:05 kmc: i found multiple rust bugs by trying to use it yesterday 23:55:45 like the bug where you can make struct Foo { a: int, a: int } 23:55:51 great 23:56:09 also it's the opposite of nearly stable 23:56:10 if shachaf finds bugs in it, that's p. buggy 23:56:24 -!- epicmonkey has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds).