< 1376007399 420397 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1376007885 643157 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you make bets on what happen next in Dungeons&Dragons game I play? < 1376007917 300017 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it like 6th edition < 1376007925 751914 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://imgur.com/EU4mHlT this is me < 1376007951 514438 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr: Do you mean the Dungeons&Dragons game? No, it is 3.5 edition. < 1376008009 39085 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Session 38 is the latest one played and recorded. < 1376008041 799273 :nooodl^!~nooodl@78-20-118-11.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :where are these recorded zzo38 < 1376008055 933509 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? danddreclist < 1376008058 327189 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://zzo38computer.org/dnd/recording/level20.tex (the precompiled .dvi is also available) < 1376008066 923669 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl^: There it is. < 1376008073 801532 :nooodl^!~nooodl@78-20-118-11.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1376008084 883336 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike : the missing link! < 1376008096 905827 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i lied i'm a bike. < 1376008114 439009 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like a gorilla tf < 1376008135 916537 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl^: I have told them to add this for all of the `*list so you can write `? to check the informations. (If there is some missing, you can add some.) < 1376008150 903831 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1376008153 828289 :nooodl^!~nooodl@78-20-118-11.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1376008157 636011 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oversight: Thank you for volunteering, citizen. http://youtu.be/RIuf1V1FhpY < 1376008241 917924 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol, benefit fraud. < 1376008331 684826 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now maybe you can try to bet on this game? < 1376008339 116301 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha, the russia bit < 1376008368 52388 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: pls to tag nsfw < 1376008382 113417 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :was hoping you remembered the previous gay cuttlefish < 1376008406 37977 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't remember gay cuttlefish, just crossdressing ones < 1376008410 270899 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1376008411 74947 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I will look at this picture later < 1376008412 132179 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :srry < 1376008717 765252 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo : ok how about, hmm < 1376008730 265075 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :dungeon crawl, a short fight, 1 x dead player < 1376008838 631665 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr: I doubt it, but you can bet how you want to. However, I have meant more specific kind of things, and mainly I mean noncombat things < 1376008875 317964 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`smlist (418) < 1376008876 616849 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :smlist (418): shachaf monqy elliott mnoqy < 1376008881 206910 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :! < 1376008904 511137 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 : no idea how you guys play so I'm going cold here :3 < 1376008909 389033 :ap3x!~apex@94-225-204-7.access.telenet.be QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376008936 678034 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr: it is recorded; you can read all of it (and maybe that gives you a clue?) < 1376008966 506874 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it's over IRC? < 1376009002 988169 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. It is played without a computer, although I type everything on the computer afterward, including character sheets, footnotes, and a story text like as if it is a story in some book or something like that. < 1376009224 289245 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kjugobe gets turned into a... < 1376009245 130764 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is sort of like a play by mail chess, except that it isn't play by mail, and it isn't chess, and it involves far more sophisticated strategies than chess. < 1376009360 885334 :Bike_!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376009382 908877 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1376009392 644196 :Bike_!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1376009401 265647 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, what could he get transformed into < 1376009401 545187 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://zzo38computer.org/dnd/recording/level20.tex <- the asperger is strong in this < 1376009436 97207 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr: An elipsis? < 1376009455 821981 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds like it would hurt < 1376009459 453804 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: Yes, I am with Asperger, so I suppose that is why. I can improve it later of course < 1376009461 224449 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :really bad < 1376009481 952336 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :So am I, on paper at least < 1376009531 95421 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and half the rest of this channel < 1376009568 612082 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mood disorder superiority. down with personality disorders, bow before the superior disease < 1376009588 621881 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should improve it later to fill in some omitted stuff and improve to make it a bit more like some novel, but still the same things as it is currently written rather than different. < 1376009639 734801 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the more typical d&d transforms are, what < 1376009670 765445 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :undead? werewolfs? various mythical beasts? < 1376009693 678260 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, yes, I suppose those are the more typical ones. < 1376009717 220529 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But sometimes there is also temporary transformation. < 1376009738 154921 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh shit, autism is developmental, not personality < 1376009750 365102 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was i thinking... < 1376009785 206398 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: and gosh, ~some~ of us are PDD-NOS, not AS! < 1376009805 286700 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're all special to me <3 < 1376009805 792283 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PART #esoteric :"and this discussion in general" < 1376009809 453973 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :aw < 1376009809 689342 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i apologize < 1376009812 485848 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :now bow down before me < 1376009820 570835 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh did i say something bad < 1376009824 3314 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh looks like shachaf beat me to the punch < 1376009833 700924 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ :\ < 1376009845 951352 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::< < 1376009856 932071 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :... sorry ... < 1376009864 421507 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't worry it's lumpio's fault not yours < 1376009922 423488 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: But I don't really know how to read it to know it is asperger; can you tell me the example of how you will see it is asperger is strong in this? < 1376009928 993028 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(。ー。) < 1376009940 723989 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can just tell < 1376009942 237213 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :By the aura < 1376009976 618064 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PART #esoteric :"joins shachaf" < 1376009989 561300 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PART :#esoteric < 1376009994 516598 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1376010009 682061 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: Aura? < 1376010069 544795 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1376010088 61703 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What aura is that? I don't see any aura. < 1376010258 122478 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is painful < 1376010520 278194 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you haven't trained enough yet < 1376010522 529157 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :To see that aura. < 1376010530 373750 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: stop trolling zzo38 < 1376010536 664772 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: he's messing with you < 1376010537 680604 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :.-. < 1376010550 583095 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :But he's constantly trolling everybody < 1376010565 630039 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think so < 1376010579 736277 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but anyway, when zzo38 talks we don't have 3 people part immediately < 1376010618 457773 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1376010816 329358 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 83 files changed, 1005 insertions(+), 932 deletions(-) < 1376010820 493382 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :welp this is going to be a pain to review < 1376010822 621386 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I'm not even done yet < 1376011207 578087 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I don't mind < 1376011401 744817 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok well anyway < 1376011450 117184 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: I think people would appreciate it if you refrain from painting with broad strokes like this < 1376011481 693043 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think what you said was horrible or anything, but it's not what we want #esoteric to be < 1376011740 71704 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :good grief did I hurt the aspies' feelings now? < 1376011755 64211 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dude. < 1376011809 979492 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :kmc > 1376011810 21891 NAMES :#esoteric < 1376011813 757887 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: don't talk like that. < 1376011874 393317 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :come back when you give a shit about your fellow human beings, I guess < 1376011875 937817 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com KICK #esoteric Lumpio- :Lumpio- < 1376011879 765299 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :c'mon man, are you going to stuff people into lockers < 1376011881 624863 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok well then. < 1376011888 209366 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com MODE #esoteric -o :kmc > 1376011888 226364 NAMES :#esoteric < 1376011917 178723 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd say i don't get how people can seriously talk like that after having pop culture down their throats, but it's so common, so < 1376011922 259726 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus i probably do it sometimes. < 1376012092 467995 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's it got to do with pop culture < 1376012120 15698 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well just "did i hurt your feelings", i kind of automatically hear that in the voice of the bully character in Interchangeable School Drama Show < 1376012169 574585 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1376012270 498582 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambeth sounds like lambda < 1376012445 734351 :jaril!~user@250.ip-46-105-18.eu JOIN :#esoteric < 1376012597 621222 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1376012604 320622 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Err, yeah, I think I'm done with this channel then. < 1376012611 69513 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Turned out to be #dramacentral, would never have believed. < 1376012614 942836 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Buy guys _o/ < 1376012615 358929 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69           | < 1376012615 597891 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69           |\ < 1376012620 211476 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa. < 1376012626 579117 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PART #esoteric :"farewell" < 1376012648 454255 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :#dramacentral < 1376012677 303926 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :metadrama < 1376012770 129180 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1376013106 787899 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf JOIN :#esoteric < 1376013193 651017 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Quit: Radiateur < 1376013229 639152 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wubchaf < 1376013523 403773 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: http://blogs.plos.org/biologue/2013/08/08/what-does-peer-review-mean-when-applied-to-computer-code/ your employer is p. cool < 1376014475 800030 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua JOIN :#esoteric < 1376015135 656836 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1376015196 112098 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: this may interest you, (Word of Burlew) < 1376015196 531008 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=15709954#post15709954 < 1376015276 922660 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i ve seen that < 1376015346 253423 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :has oerjan seen it (and FireFly) < 1376015506 321723 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: What happens to threads past page 6? < 1376015515 31125 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1376015548 657974 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :_now_ i've seen it hth < 1376015596 872005 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376016045 671993 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: did you know there's a post where he writes "Windstriker charges, striking V and trapping him between Miko and himself." < 1376016126 371811 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I do < 1376016916 924338 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1376017020 95626 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1376017900 288100 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :5d1 < 1376017900 528224 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: 5 < 1376017907 573006 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :5d2 < 1376017907 773022 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: 8 < 1376018652 707780 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com < 1376018941 817217 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1376019330 666695 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, the ICFP contest looks like fun. < 1376021346 998672 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the nsa has a new website http://nsa.gov1.info/data/index.html < 1376022732 21352 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@oeis 3,8,6,20,24 < 1376022734 20206 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Pisano periods (or Pisano numbers): period of Fibonacci numbers mod n.[1,3,8... < 1376022781 220271 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Pisano periods are named after Leonardo Pisano, better known as Fibonacci." pff. < 1376023607 228850 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel like I'm missing something when trying to read XKCD < 1376024558 332620 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i feel like randall munroe is missing something when trying to write XKCD < 1376024559 830654 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(burn) < 1376024735 43889 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1376025083 789464 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unsurprisingly, wakeup from suspend doesn't work on my Linux desktop. (Black screen, no answer to SSH; keyboard leds do react, though.) < 1376025173 44721 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1376025195 949513 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: What is this year's ICFP contest? I have seen the previous ones in Wikipedia. < 1376025237 467943 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1376025280 39999 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Huh. It answers to ping; curious that not SSH.) < 1376025299 621881 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf JOIN :#esoteric < 1376025317 376714 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have had suspend not work properly on various computers regardless of operating system. < 1376025401 414222 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1376025503 302128 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is certainly a thing that happens. < 1376025679 572328 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(At least wake-on-lan works.) < 1376025696 374643 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then use that. Does wake on the telephone rings work? < 1376025748 898088 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Quit: sacje < 1376025891 412514 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have a land line, or a modem in this computer. < 1376026106 241453 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't need any of those to use the wake on telephone feature. < 1376026135 163623 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :How does it work, then? < 1376026171 503672 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Another thing that did not work: alsa-utils tried to execute /usr/sbin/alsactl (to restore mixer levels) before /usr was mounted. (I don't know why, because the initscript has Required-Start: $localfs, and it's much later than the mounting in init script order.)) < 1376026178 753964 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is one of the pins in the serial port which tells the computer if the telephone rings, so connect something else to that port instead. < 1376026203 942100 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1376026359 604418 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't recall seeing that feature mentioned in the BIOS setup. < 1376026460 120853 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which people in here have told about what dream they have? I want to know some things such as how commonly things resembling different kinds of logic (or no kinds of logic) applies, and a few others. A few times it has happened when in the dream there was something where linear logic seemed to apply, even though it isn't a case where that would be the case in real life. < 1376026476 291493 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I think this was before I knew about linear logic, actually.) < 1376026606 482313 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who (and how many) of you have done this? < 1376027266 892425 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or do you even understand what I am talking about at all? < 1376028888 599319 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wake-on-van < 1376028902 170840 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :impact in three. brace < 1376028916 899750 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :woop woop pull up pull up < 1376028932 365191 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sink rate < 1376028968 537733 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I do not understand you either. < 1376029072 302465 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote I think I do not understand you either. < 1376029077 228966 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1085) I think I do not understand you either. < 1376029720 954725 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376030399 839350 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376035410 345354 :ap3x!~apex@d54C6F1E5.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1376035642 4798 :ap3x!~apex@d54C6F1E5.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: Computer says no < 1376036148 88202 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1376036177 303309 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1376036468 470160 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1376036713 35506 :ap3x!~Apex@d54C6F1E5.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1376037210 377904 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1376038062 972507 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1376038194 257003 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1376038223 26260 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1376038399 965911 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't get xkcd either < 1376039981 37544 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376041191 709896 :ap3x!~Apex@d54C6F1E5.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1376042898 202026 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-20-118-11.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1376044743 488280 :ap3x!~apex@d54C6F589.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1376045876 821080 :ap3x!~apex@d54C6F589.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: Computer says no < 1376046080 218340 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"-- binaural sound, wave field synthesis systems, and sound source localization using GPGPU --" hmm, maybe I should go and have a listen. < 1376046907 34217 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1376046975 798016 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1376047185 326900 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :did lumpio piss everyone off again < 1376047236 906652 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the part where he rejoined just to tell us he's never coming back ever. < 1376047577 912488 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, there's been some drrama? < 1376047707 529052 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Also to tell us to purchase some guys, I guess? < 1376047827 58138 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :drama, n. when someone doesn't like what you're doing < 1376047853 316496 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dramacentral, n. place where someone tells you they don't like what you're doing < 1376048937 14035 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376049593 571362 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/borrowing/creditcards/10231556/Man-who-created-own-credit-card-sues-bank-for-not-sticking-to-terms.html oh my god < 1376049997 518613 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376050013 729842 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, so it seems that this book has been checked out 17 times, from 1971 to 1984 < 1376050020 312079 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then not again until 2013, which was me < 1376050038 711214 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in other words, this book has gone my entire lifetime without anyone reading it) < 1376050161 12922 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1376050172 651378 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1376050176 17665 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376050183 763271 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Before you leave again =P < 1376050189 458274 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :What book is it? =) < 1376050190 552253 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :A person with lesser politeness levels might say that it's the likely fate of your (or anyone else's) thesis, too. < 1376050190 921767 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this connection is really unreliable < 1376050201 643957 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Switching theory" by Miller, volume 2 < 1376050211 620514 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cool, cool < 1376050221 171996 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose it's about theory of switching and not about switching to (some other) theory? < 1376050230 740106 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: it's actually about digital circuits < 1376050243 698229 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Closer to the former, anyway. < 1376050255 107380 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha, the full name is "Switching Theory, Vol. II: Sequential Circuits and Machines" < 1376050296 740567 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's see what Google thought it was… "Switching theory. Vol. 2, Sequential circuits and machines" < 1376050298 297902 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not bad < 1376050306 878260 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Google had to figure it out indirectly from citations) < 1376050374 85711 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was some debate over what its name was, getting a physical copy of it seemed to be one way to settle that < 1376050392 13816 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, there's still a punched card in here that someone was using as a bookmark < 1376050525 8309 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :12/3, 11/9, 12/5, 11/5, 0/4/8, 5, 1, 5/8, 5, 1, 4/8, 3/8, 4/8, 1, 4/8 < 1376050558 407171 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also "LINE$51*51<#@1@" is printed on it, which appears to be a translation of the punches (because single numbers represent themselves literally on punched cards) < 1376050564 353825 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might have the 12s and 11s backwards, they aren't labeled < 1376050596 982806 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, the first 4/8 is actually 11/4/8 < 1376050610 682413 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I missed a hole < 1376050705 241889 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*single digits represent themselves literally < 1376050885 227578 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla JOIN :#esoteric < 1376050888 385975 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-160-224.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376050983 254748 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this book seems to be full of a bunch of formal definitions, trying to define what it means for a circuit to be speed-independent < 1376051015 432931 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's probably why nobody reads it any more; speed-independence is the assumption that your components are slow but your wires transmit information instantaneously < 1376051023 947016 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that turned out to be the opposite of how electronics works in practice < 1376051272 16624 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1376051293 78482 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376051367 856107 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Holy crap what < 1376051368 316189 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/mame/quine-relay < 1376051368 583809 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They typically do have a printed version of the line for human readers, it seems. < 1376051408 74246 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still haven't figured out how to make a non-trivial lol-my-source-file-is-empty quine yet < 1376051409 529018 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't seem like a particularly useful punched card, anyway < 1376051430 128527 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :But this guy did *so much better* < 1376051441 919835 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Granted, I never really spent much time trying, but eh) < 1376051442 753224 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/1icrny/an_uroboros_program_with_50_programming_languages/cb3vtuq < 1376051447 990585 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :me explaining how to write a quine < 1376051458 361805 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a rather verbose, unobfuscated one < 1376051458 720728 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah ^^ < 1376051472 384822 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks. I'd rather not read it, though. < 1376051478 740726 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know the information is easy to find < 1376051489 980522 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just want to figure it out on my own =) < 1376051503 950957 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, OK < 1376051522 527683 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :50 languages is quite an impressive number. < 1376051548 870028 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: perhaps in terms of the time it'd take to write them all < 1376051563 1999 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol nice < 1376051567 130562 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not that impressive in terms of quine-writing; when we did botloops back in #esoteric, only one of the bots needed to do anything other than print statements < 1376051592 999610 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah sigfpe show how to do this < 1376051603 139250 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :once you get the idea adding another language is just a matter of filling out a form < 1376051606 15938 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :writing a quine that wraps itself in print statements for some other language isn't noticeably harder than writing an ordinary quine < 1376051616 157381 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :katla: yeah, at least if the other language has string literals < 1376051622 258347 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it doesn't, e.g. INTERCAL, things get a bit harder < 1376051637 775805 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not /much/ harder, but somewhat < 1376051757 904884 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :J = Y NAND K; K = X NAND J; Q = (X OR J) AND (Y OR K) < 1376051759 11604 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh god < 1376051782 809945 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the actual source is formatted as Ouroboros < 1376051790 453695 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: again, not so hard < 1376051805 540100 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Depends on your level =P < 1376051824 437198 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps I should write a quine-loop generator that lets you choose which languages to go via, and what shape the source should be formatted as < 1376051830 787226 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It's not that hard to fly, really", said the butterfly to the caterpillar < 1376051844 51491 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :AKA I'm not up there yet =P < 1376051941 630149 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo, http://blog.sigfpe.com/2011/01/quine-central.html < 1376051965 502585 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you mean like https://github.com/mame/quine-relay/blob/master/src/code-gen.rb < 1376051978 49936 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376051999 281816 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1376052000 268144 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1376052007 528972 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it turns out that, the thing everyone cites this book for < 1376052011 147843 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't actually in this book < 1376052048 349827 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless it's that boolean expression I posted above, and I don't think it is < 1376052148 730018 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :By everyone do you mean a few dozen people somewhere < 1376052181 422583 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Cited by 148" < 1376052183 221181 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, a proper cyclic quine http://www.ioccc.org/2000/dhyang.c < 1376052198 350446 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That might've been for vol 1. < 1376052221 819539 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Google Scholar's citation counts are kind of approximative. < 1376052309 40704 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :so last month i wanted to cite in my phd that limit sets of cellular automata can be pi^0_1 hard < 1376052317 760077 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and everyone cites an article by hurd < 1376052346 832282 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i checked, and it indeed claims the result, but proves a much simpler thing, completely missing the point < 1376052398 887667 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: it's cited more than that under different names < 1376052412 772664 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that people care much because everyone thinks they can easily prove it < 1376052437 81784 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Did you prove it to be not true? < 1376052437 746082 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bleh, proving a negative is hard, and proving that something isn't in a book is also hard < 1376052440 784556 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523 < 1376052448 133838 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's true < 1376052452 130585 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aw. I was trying to jump to the punchline. < 1376052463 927330 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :would've been cool < 1376052479 657926 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me try to analyze that expression I posted above, that might be it < 1376052487 650217 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :J = Y NAND K; K = X NAND J; Q = (X OR J) AND (Y OR K) < 1376052490 692972 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1376052500 405172 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :J <= Y NAND K; K <= X NAND J; Q <= (X OR J) AND (Y OR K) < 1376052502 546647 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was no punchline, i just find it funny that no one checks these things before citing. < 1376052512 886475 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :make sure to use the right sort of operator, ais523! < 1376052515 560208 :ap3x!~apex@d54C6F1E5.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1376052518 395273 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :They do. They check the paper that they got it from. < 1376052531 165706 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm true < 1376052535 892764 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and cite the original without reading it < 1376052542 626774 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :the punchline was given to us in private communication < 1376052566 63956 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's see… if X and Y are both 0, then J and K are both 1, so Q is 1 < 1376052568 402886 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376052579 929965 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376052603 218711 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if X is 1 and Y is 0, then J is 1, so K is 0, and so Q is 0 < 1376052606 873404 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, this isn't a C-element < 1376052625 21904 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good high-scoring-scrabble-letters morning! < 1376052633 933669 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :afternoon boily < 1376052658 421869 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1376052662 677147 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heya boily < 1376052666 438027 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's up? < 1376052677 717746 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376052690 10710 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: good fternoon to you too. < 1376052713 568159 :ap3x!~apex@d54C6F1E5.access.telenet.be QUIT :Client Quit < 1376052714 112472 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: had my regular morning bixi ride. it's way too humid outside for my personal tastes and confort zone. < 1376052738 704919 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Getting a Bixi key *would* be a good idea, wouldn't it =P < 1376052751 865368 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Either that or getting my actual bike to Lachine =P < 1376052763 628979 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yeah, that's the only two-input one-output circuit in this chapter of the book < 1376052785 849832 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is "Bixi" some sort of a bike-share thing with a fashionable name? < 1376052794 149661 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :straight on. < 1376052802 991754 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: They're sharing you. < 1376052825 642192 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar EFHK < 1376052826 158126 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :EFHK 091220Z 20012KT 9999 BKN023 23/17 Q1008 NOSIG < 1376052878 389664 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar CYUL < 1376052878 876998 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 091200Z 00000KT 12SM FEW007 OVC015 21/19 A2987 RMK SF1SC8 SF TR SLP113 DENSITY ALT 900FT < 1376052884 760541 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :is icfp out yet? < 1376052889 296518 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bet Sutherland is laughing at all of academia right now (at least, the very small slice of it that cares about asynchronous circuits) < 1376052890 797540 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :katla: yes < 1376052894 321530 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the problem < 1376052896 961177 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the II out yet? < 1376052907 680967 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, only 17? It's been very tropical in here. < 1376053001 289105 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :23 °C with dew point at 17 translates to 69% rel. humidity. < 1376053015 27383 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Yes, but relative humidity here for the last two days: http://cdn.fmi.fi/weather-observations/products/graphs/observations-101005-13-fi.png < 1376053033 264634 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yuck. < 1376053067 445674 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ 3, everything is water < 1376053076 45111 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1376053092 192232 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes it feels like that a 3am. < 1376053104 333985 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Finland is a subaquatic hoax, like Atlantis or something. < 1376053220 946982 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1376053881 368202 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just booted alpine linux into virtualbox for fun. that things boot frighteningly fast. < 1376053927 411134 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/things boot/thing boots/ < 1376053944 857452 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Powerthirst! Makes your linux box boot abnormally fast! < 1376054037 286820 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1376054056 559925 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: I prefer terrifying boot times over weird and unusual ones. < 1376054162 921353 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sound the alarm, your boot's about to get uncomfortably fast < 1376054167 407025 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376054226 449483 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376054430 55755 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, hmm < 1376054440 44266 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it could be harder to track down the actual source of the Muller C-element than I thoguht < 1376054640 762912 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION sees double
< 1376054737 507471 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: close an eye. < 1376054780 414495 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope, ais523 still has two nicks < 1376054804 83158 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, the connection's really bad here < 1376054811 115140 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_ is a wired connection, which is /normally/ more reliable < 1376054818 541520 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-20-118-11.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1376054848 329056 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: shake your monitor so that with retinal persistence the double aises merge into one? < 1376054886 398545 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :my connection is also shitty today. :( < 1376054895 251233 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although tmux masks that for you. < 1376054931 552578 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, mostly horribly laggy. < 1376055059 963442 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I boot plaid. < 1376055088 381957 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :dat ludicrous booting speed < 1376055116 641592 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I boot columbia. that wintery booting speed. < 1376055387 894104 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-20-118-11.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1376055396 526616 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellooodl. < 1376055625 329825 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha, according to the ACM, one of my papers (when read aloud) is 901165:12 minutes long < 1376055643 326439 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, hmm, that's not an MP3, it's an MP4 < 1376055647 685014 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a 901165:12 minute video, then < 1376055665 672982 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :MP4 doesn't imply video < 1376055670 735467 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1376055680 281902 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still don't really think this makes much sense in any direction, though… < 1376055708 884033 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 900000 / (60*24) < 1376055710 266749 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 625.0 < 1376055737 928398 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval 901165 / 60 / 24 / 365.25 < 1376055737 928573 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1.7133717392957637 < 1376055836 941414 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Where do they have those numbers? The generic ACM Digital Library paper-page doesn't seem to say anything about length. < 1376055858 846401 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Leap years, man! < 1376055864 118694 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: on the page about the author < 1376055877 974622 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Or, rather, "proper leap years for centuries, man". < 1376055914 297418 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Oh, I see. < 1376055934 508339 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: A colleague has one paper of "2411109:31 MIN", and another of "398752:6 MIN". < 1376055974 168084 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1376055979 366448 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The one that's 2411109:31 minutes is 23:57 minutes when opened in their video viewer. < 1376055993 217716 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm… is it an actual video? < 1376056008 813678 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: It's the slides of the corresponding conference presentation. < 1376056012 509297 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1376056017 640420 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Presumably audio too, I don't have headphones right now. < 1376056034 766747 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: But it started with the last slide of the previous presenter, so I suppose it's from their stream. < 1376056038 558981 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval 901165 / 60 / 24 / 365.2425 < 1376056039 102503 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1.7134069221894432 < 1376056063 900148 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Mulch better. < 1376056101 387856 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think IEEE conference presentations are published anywhere like this. < 1376056119 586508 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: but i don't have a garden! (knock on wood) < 1376056174 119606 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I don't like leap years. I'm a proponent for adjusting Earth's revolution period to have a nice, round integer. like, have a 512-day year. < 1376056190 350047 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I like that idea < 1376056207 557888 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: that means some seriously long winters, mind you < 1376056219 121949 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: yé :D < 1376056222 734572 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait or short days < 1376056223 456084 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, the ICASSP presentations are, at some superlectures.com site. Curious. < 1376056235 702459 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: don't mind. as Candians, we're used to winters. < 1376056279 529398 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376056288 718306 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm… I have a good suspicion of what the /actual/ source is, but apparently there's only one copy in existence and it's at the University of Illinois < 1376056293 291137 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :OR < 1376056307 14651 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :We could just make it so that the revolution time = the rotation time < 1376056318 244096 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which would probably get rid of winters altogether < 1376056325 752459 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy centrifugal forces, batman! < 1376056341 989880 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: also life < 1376056358 269915 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure. But think about it. < 1376056364 315134 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :those tidelocked planets are not pleasant < 1376056370 530252 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :No more sleet, no more shoveling the snow... < 1376056386 481236 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: you're forgetting the side _away_ from the sun hth < 1376056387 440713 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :No more fallen leaves to clean up < 1376056439 224762 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, so we make it rotate the other way < 1376056442 482471 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 days = 1 year < 1376056444 63055 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the only lifeforms that would be left are going to be the usual post-nuclear cockroaches, and some megasquirrels. < 1376056470 692726 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Better yet, make it rotate so fast that the concept of night/day becomes irrelevant < 1376056487 894667 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that the whole day is light-ish < 1376056499 423524 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :50 shades of, well, shades < 1376056506 998341 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: that would also make gravitation irrelevant hth < 1376056520 780025 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just make the planet bigger, then. < 1376056526 493283 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... < 1376056547 630536 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure that will work without turning it into a neutron star? < 1376056549 145650 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I'm pretty sure you mean otoh, not hth =P < 1376056557 94487 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: are you subtly pointing that we should, like, live on something not entirely unlike a magnetar? < 1376056572 401925 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :>implying I'm implying stuff < 1376056578 624408 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo is secretly an invading chellah < 1376056579 712532 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :otoh, hth is better than otoh, if twh. nah. hth. hand. < 1376056585 836499 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck chellah < 1376056586 103017 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chellah, (4'D)) or Sala Colonia is a necropolis and complex of ancient Roman Mauretania Tingitana and medieval ruins at the outskirts of Rabat, Morocco. < 1376056597 368942 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I AM AN INVADING NECROPOLIS < 1376056601 878158 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :ALL BOW BEFORE MY < 1376056602 900117 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1376056605 351146 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :WALLS? < 1376056609 299894 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :NECROBUILDINGS? < 1376056618 448755 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*cheela < 1376056626 65254 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry bout that < 1376056626 320924 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cheela < 1376056628 472961 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheela? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1376056629 146697 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69             | < 1376056629 404290 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69           º¯`\o < 1376056644 547232 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote I AM AN INVADING NECROPOLIS... ALL BOW BEFORE MY... erm... WALLS?... NECROBUILDINGS? < 1376056648 99506 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1086) I AM AN INVADING NECROPOLIS... ALL BOW BEFORE MY... erm... WALLS?... NECROBUILDINGS? < 1376056654 9433 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck cheela < 1376056654 342450 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1376056660 799003 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this is one of those books i've conveniently read only through wikipedia's plot summary) < 1376056781 589382 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: dragon's egg hth < 1376056806 900464 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck dragon egg < 1376056807 300747 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A Dragon egg is a summoning pet egg that requires 99 Summoning to obtain. < 1376056831 762353 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: there you go. Roujo's has a power of OVER 99 SUMMONING! < 1376056840 45162 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: this is a "hard sci fi" book so the book is probably not more entertaining than the plot summary < 1376056848 914877 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :>= 99 != > 99 < 1376056933 222282 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: artistic mathematic license. < 1376056979 330717 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It's been revoked" < 1376057004 810803 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and, I'm an engineer. it's only an approximative 1% error. nothing to worry about. < 1376057036 896720 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your error of 1% has an error of 1% < 1376057047 94570 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm thinking of becoming an engineer. < 1376057053 635388 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, about error margins < 1376057072 976748 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Say you have a reading of 40%, ±1% < 1376057082 675526 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the most important thing about error margins is the stroke width in points in your .eps figures. < 1376057097 417439 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is the range 39%-41%? Or is it 39,6%-40,4%? < 1376057100 671418 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :HOW DO YOU KNOWWWWWW < 1376057101 977123 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1376057102 237411 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i said "dragon's" not dragon hth < 1376057111 562607 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck dragon's egg < 1376057112 19925 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dragon's Egg is a hard science fiction novel written by Robert L. Forward and published in 1980. < 1376057121 917588 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bleh. relevant info. < 1376057122 753127 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds relevant-er < 1376057134 721031 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relevant info < 1376057135 904040 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: relevant: not found < 1376057138 145786 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm < 1376057138 795267 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm < 1376057141 843934 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? relevant info < 1376057143 262126 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :relevant info? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1376057143 715672 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                    | < 1376057143 992337 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                  o/`¯º < 1376057147 362209 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :There you go < 1376057152 276837 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is where you give up and draw your graph in excel and say "the standard deviation is negligible" < 1376057165 870565 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Speaking of standard deviations < 1376057179 357293 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :The stats on my final WebDev class were interesting < 1376057188 465984 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Average was ~65% < 1376057199 336548 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Median was 85% < 1376057209 305913 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :StdDev was 40% or something insane like that < 1376057210 438772 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fune < 1376057211 937242 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fun* < 1376057343 826459 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: t'étudies où, si je peux me permettre de poser la question? < 1376057356 88263 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "The large-eyed mouse lemur is a nocturnal tree-dweller." >wisdom/'relevant info' < 1376057359 309056 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1376057379 249669 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Je n'étudies plus, c'est ça l'ennui =P < 1376057392 361471 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i know that one it's some kind of ring < 1376057396 684916 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run forrest | run < 1376057398 43706 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: run: command not found \ bash: forrest: command not found < 1376057448 440166 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ring < 1376057450 844775 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Addition, subtraction and multiplication have a certain ring to them. < 1376057457 491462 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :good'n < 1376057467 677109 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat /dev/urandom > wisdom/'irrelevant info' < 1376057476 832624 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: line 1: 287 File size limit exceededcat /dev/urandom > wisdom/'irrelevant info' < 1376057480 384546 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh shit < 1376057493 349042 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1376057494 872472 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1376057498 135273 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks < 1376057498 392726 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no! < 1376057499 822396 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry about that < 1376057510 684781 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a way to limit it? < 1376057517 353540 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: don't revert unless you're sure your change actually went through < 1376057525 447430 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? relevant info < 1376057527 481045 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :The large-eyed mouse lemur is a nocturnal tree-dweller. < 1376057533 913967 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or else it will revert something completely unrelated < 1376057538 738489 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help < 1376057539 87313 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch " downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1376057540 271914 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like relevant information. < 1376057574 284744 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls wisdom/irrelevant info < 1376057576 45990 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access wisdom/irrelevant info: No such file or directory < 1376057592 755142 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i guess that worked < 1376057601 831481 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, say I want to put random garbage in that file < 1376057613 952872 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Without making it wayyy too big for its own good < 1376057619 789813 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay, it seems that archive.org digitized a copy < 1376057625 711130 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and none of the usual search engines knew about it < 1376057628 562746 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :How would I go about and do that? < 1376057629 501881 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: we already have a wisdom entry with random garbage. < 1376057631 85096 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Woot =) < 1376057632 749201 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you, archive < 1376057632 749400 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh? < 1376057634 585681 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ngevd < 1376057636 785731 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​.S�a�aO >r�qn&�t1V�V��n�v&���� ��U���o��S�L]cM~,���� B��l>�P��6� < 1376057646 888903 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, it's special cased < 1376057650 346133 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ngevd < 1376057652 4301 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​��vy����c����4"�l�c|.��Z�ϝE��~��8P���Hi�� "THbBFUM�Xæo�]�0��b�L[s��*)������}�v\���@nr�t��"��+kݫ6m�A���Nŷ�+��H�P�.2,�v(/�q��v�?d�}o�\��z����P����.`�1��%�N�$L��'����1���hvSk��9�35��xd�>�U < 1376057656 374445 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice < 1376057657 953848 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's widespread disagreement on which year it was published in, though < 1376057658 214986 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks =) < 1376057681 492735 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«â-ÛvyÚ õÈcø». truer words were never spoken. < 1376057684 200393 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/wisdom < 1376057685 299606 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: bin/wisdom: No such file or directory < 1376057691 174227 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/? < 1376057692 491884 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ topic=$(echo "$1" | lowercase | sed "s/ *$//") \ topic1=$(echo "$topic" | sed "s/s$//") \ cd wisdom \ if [ \( "$topic1" = "ngevd" \) -a \( -e ngevd \) ]; \ then cat /dev/urandom; \ elif [ -e "$topic" ]; \ then cat "$topic" | rnooodl; \ elif [ -e "$topic1" ]; \ then cat "$topic1" | rnooodl; \ else echo "$1? ¯\ < 1376057726 778235 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it _used_ to be an actual link to /dev/urandom, but that broke things horribly whenever people tried to make a search or digest of the directory) < 1376057770 496219 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really wonder why I can't see special chars on Freenode =/ < 1376057778 400593 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/rnooodl < 1376057779 991583 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :perl -pe 's/nooodl/"n@{[o x(3+rand 7)]}dl"/ge' < 1376057797 711611 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :All I see are those neat question marks in diamonds < 1376057809 483171 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :And yet I'm configured as UTF-8 < 1376057811 991690 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh wait < 1376057815 815661 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe my bouncer isn't < 1376057819 317512 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would explain it < 1376057820 412109 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_> < 1376057821 371685 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :<_< < 1376057990 68773 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`gccrun for (int i=0;i<99;i++) printf("\xe2\x96%c", 133+sin(i/4)*4); < 1376057991 233400 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION lightly smacks Roujo with a standards compliant mako shark to compel him to unicodify his whole system as a respectable person is wont to do.
< 1376057993 275962 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/tmp/gccrun.kUXWeFD2/command.c: In function ‘main’: \ /tmp/gccrun.kUXWeFD2/command.c:19: error: ‘for’ loop initial declarations are only allowed in C99 mode \ /tmp/gccrun.kUXWeFD2/command.c:19: note: use option -std=c99 or -std=gnu99 to compile your code \ /tmp/gccrun.kUXWeFD2/command.c:19: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of b < 1376058009 365042 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`gccrun int i; for (i=0;i<99;i++) printf("\xe2\x96%c", 133+sin(i/4.)*4); < 1376058012 469078 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/tmp/gccrun.Jc3ohCYR/command.c: In function ‘main’: \ /tmp/gccrun.Jc3ohCYR/command.c:19: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function ‘sin’ \ /tmp/ccyVF3XB.o: In function `main': \ command.c:(.text+0x2e): undefined reference to `sin' \ collect2: ld returned 1 exit status < 1376058025 691859 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alright, I think I fixed it < 1376058029 252480 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION puts a link to the archive.org page in the citation itself, so that other people can actually find a copy
< 1376058084 571581 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of archives, I should keep a log somewhere for every object and technique I use to bop people on the head. < 1376058092 33882 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: gőőd főr yőu < 1376058111 823187 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT WORKED! =D < 1376058117 310970 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ngevd < 1376058117 886489 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1376058119 50619 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​�S�s#K�D�a�{�a�}�[���VqkI \ &���56�}�r.f$�p���=;iW�J2���.����L���LB݄|��M���S�V�CC�����:�pK�Y�N���k��qDˆ�7�;�Z�Þ@���߅HHS�&a&�.)�i.*O�7�-��?�ص��gaT�+ҡ���/w>�I���5�@���S�{� < 1376058122 651039 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mieux ^^ < 1376058189 960773 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :日本語は何がどうでしょうか？ < 1376058259 137523 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, gah; it's the wrong article :( < 1376058321 958899 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :luckily the right one seems to be there too < 1376058328 309491 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376058397 130051 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1376058403 856554 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1376058415 776960 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi dœsthiswork. < 1376058429 411989 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup < 1376058435 620500 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :UTF-84EVER < 1376058459 523032 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. I should hi people when they are actually connected. < 1376058473 340982 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well. time to clean my desk and move... < 1376058474 502269 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: Poulet! < 1376058484 211725 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_: That ("one copy" "in Illinois") is probably why everyone just copies the citation. < 1376058484 464202 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376058518 15863 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: well, yeah, and some people were copying the wrong citation < 1376058542 152963 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, like, the book that everyone was copying was a different one, the University of Birmingham has a copy < 1376058564 656235 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it hadn't been used for almost 30 years so it took them a while to find it < 1376058600 105556 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(actually, what happened is that I went to the library, they checked their records and said that they had a copy but they had to retrieve it from storage and asked me to come back the next day) < 1376058646 38599 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376058688 452241 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, it seems that the University of Illinois actually lent their copy to archive.org to digitize < 1376058697 348930 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably because they were fed up with everyone asking them for it < 1376058706 166942 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(their copy of the original source, that is) < 1376058791 642141 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... this PDF crashes Acrobat, should I be scared? < 1376058800 752634 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you scroll too quickly, that is < 1376058806 953769 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Evince can handle it but it takes like 20 seconds to render each page < 1376058941 339417 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also half the pages are useless because it's only printed on one side of each page and archive decided to digitize the back of each page as well as the front < 1376058964 539958 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that makes sense, it's probably faster than employing someone to check the back of each page to ensure there's nothing important written there < 1376058993 309364 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_: copy of what? < 1376059028 601120 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: basically there are two relevant books; the first one, everyone has been copying other people's citations of, and nobody bothers to check that it actually contains the information that's being cited (it doesn't) < 1376059045 717253 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the second, which I suspect contains the information, there's only one copy in existence, at the university of illinois < 1376059049 927672 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but luckily archive.org digitized it < 1376059053 538927 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I'm reading it now < 1376059057 746450 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to determine whether it actually does < 1376059068 978098 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376059111 755912 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1376059118 478266 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it appears to have been typewritten rather than typeset, with anything the typewriter couldn't handle drawn in by hand < 1376059123 453241 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that explains why there's only one copy < 1376059453 640839 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha, this document doesn't define the Muller C-element /either/ :) < 1376059494 984175 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think, at least, it's hard to tell < 1376059540 967345 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe there's actually a book by nearly the same name written by Muller himself < 1376059555 926173 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, this document is written by Muller himself < 1376059560 10673 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1376059576 125516 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know I got the right book with Miller because the publisher and publication year matched too < 1376059609 682860 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, that was "A Theory of Asynchronous Circuits I" I checked < 1376059618 961742 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :II is incorrectly labeled as I on archive.org, maybe it's in that one < 1376059703 436971 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... II has thinner paper, you can see through the back of the page < 1376059710 311881 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :prediction: some time in the next century a flawed proof of the inconsistency of zfc will be announced, and no one will be able to disprove it because many of the theorems used are supported by chains of erroneous citations that no one can untangle. < 1376059733 450600 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay, it's in II < 1376059738 83936 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :page 28 < 1376059749 45532 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well, that only took a day or so to track down, not bad going :) < 1376059753 525134 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :=D < 1376059810 829985 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_: now you go and fix it on wikipedia in such a way that misguided people won't revert it to one of the wrong books hth < 1376059835 159183 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :We give a positive answer to a long-standing conjecture first posed by Johansen[7]. < 1376059876 836043 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Wikipedia's citing a conference paper which probably (but does not definitely) incorporate a copy of the technical report < 1376059892 143405 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but unlinked < 1376059898 686263 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should probably go link it to the archive.org page, really < 1376059922 553832 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: i don't recall posing any conjectures fwiw but it's been a long time < 1376059980 276594 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: there's still time! < 1376060073 535463 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :[7] Ø. Johansen, "prediction:", public communication, a long time. < 1376060117 824667 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was the conjecture? < 1376060125 579729 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: that's not a _mathematical_ conjecture hth < 1376060144 351769 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: see ^ < 1376060164 883848 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, the theory about the inconsistency of zfc < 1376060189 450937 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog prediction:.*zfc < 1376060194 147621 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a mythematical one < 1376060220 278717 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2013-05-28.txt:04:16:11: prediction: nobody actually uses ZFC besides set theorists anyway < 1376060233 874259 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good prediction < 1376060239 975345 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :That looks like a conjecture < 1376060257 813156 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but _still_ not a mathematical one hth < 1376060435 96856 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, "Digitized by the Internet Archive in 2013" < 1376060461 345159 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it would have been basically impossible for anyone to get a copy before then, except maybe if they lived in Illinois < 1376061165 834561 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :The year of the Muller C-element has come < 1376061191 516889 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1376061244 731770 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the funny thing is, the very original source just defines what it is, and doesn't really discuss it at all < 1376061259 340236 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it doesn't name it, it uses "C" for arbitrary circuits < 1376061271 73437 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so that one was called C in context, and the name appears to have stuck < 1376061816 17908 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376061872 854422 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good translated morning! < 1376061954 696861 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :上午 < 1376062007 712250 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzieさんお早う！ < 1376062068 741007 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't speak the lingo, it was just a translated morning courtesy of Google Translate. < 1376062278 78708 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh. < 1376062284 963099 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that was a meh done in Finnish.) < 1376062307 931007 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :pöh < 1376062328 43658 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1376062333 531904 :ais523__!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376062377 868940 :ais523__!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523 < 1376062384 232589 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we should measure ais523_'s rate of underscorization throughout the day. < 1376062401 819121 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: the nicks "ais523" and "ais523_" actually have different semantics < 1376062420 357697 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been known to nick from one to the other when I picked the wrong one by mistake or via collision < 1376062432 757869 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do they have different collision alternatives as well < 1376062454 441287 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: currently ais523 has ais523_ and ais523__ as collision alternatives < 1376062458 885920 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ais523_ doesn't have collision alternatives < 1376062467 881674 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me go fix that < 1376062497 237292 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I recommend using something other than _ as the uncollision character < 1376062500 852591 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... I fear complexities for the The Question. < 1376062502 648961 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, now I have callforjudgement and scarf as my collision alternatives < 1376062504 239045 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :scarf < 1376062510 910145 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are all aises approximately in the same place? < 1376062521 43141 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't recommend using completely different nicks as collision alternatives < 1376062522 938239 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :But whatever < 1376062528 141680 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you store all of the IRC logs in a SQL database then it should be easy enough to measure all of these things, especially if you add some extensions such as mathematical extensions, blob parsing extensions, graphical extensions to plot the graph of when you did it < 1376062535 928454 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: ais523_ is me when I'm using a hotdesking or public computer, via a wired connection < 1376062539 220703 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I guess the scarves they wear are background statistically insignificant noise) < 1376062539 515013 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas ais523 is my laptop < 1376062550 859460 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :currently the laptop is next to a work computer < 1376062568 615757 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that your only computer or is there a third class of nick for other computers you own < 1376062598 661255 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the only computer that a) I own, b) is currently working, and c) is capable of going online < 1376062599 279191 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or for when you're using a public computer via a wireless connection < 1376062609 904133 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one's never happened < 1376062626 727749 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I don't have a contingency plan for that yet < 1376062709 399443 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION imagines scarf desperately failing to log in at a wireless public computer because he cannot decide which nick to use
< 1376062772 556364 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh chocolate covered peanuts are dangerous < 1376062786 257295 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: nut allergy? < 1376062796 475697 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :must... resist... ...soon... < 1376062802 731255 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you considered incrementing the ais number? < 1376062815 560134 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :monotone: now that's just heretical talk < 1376062819 496317 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm curious to see what ais524 and ais996873 are like. < 1376062849 249752 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't go that direction, ais527 is actually a serial killer < 1376062852 637602 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monotone: I've nicked to ais524 before now as a joke in response to "ais523++" < 1376062857 454278 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I don't do that reliably or consistently < 1376062910 351413 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :scarf: no allergy but also no willpower hth < 1376062918 116120 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? monotone < 1376062920 39277 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :monotone? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1376062920 361142 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69               | < 1376062920 619327 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69             o/`¯º < 1376062922 924198 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck monotone < 1376062932 107568 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right. my bot is dead. < 1376062940 919073 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376062941 171605 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye cuttlefish < 1376062945 51935 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck monotone < 1376062945 352024 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monotone definition: a succession of syllables, words, or sentences in one unvaried key or pitch. < 1376062959 741035 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck scarf < 1376062960 171179 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A scarf, also known as a muffler, or neck-wrap is a piece of fabric worn around the neck, or near the head or around the waist for warmth, cleanliness, fashion or for religious reasons. < 1376063341 445599 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh... has MDN somehow broken itself? https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/Reference/Global_Objects/Array has the same list of methods (concat, join, slice, toSource, toString, indexOf, lastIndexOf) for all the subsections of the "Array instances" section (Properties, Mutator methods, Accessor methods, ...) < 1376063366 149240 :iamfishhead!~jgoldste@192.147.44.15 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376063475 379277 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/Reference/Global_Objects/Array/prototype still works. < 1376063481 392368 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone on hackage has read xkcd... there's a thyme package out there. < 1376063505 314085 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: but does it change every hour? < 1376063516 192710 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :monotone: Seems to. Perhaps they've somehow broken the template inclusion mechanism, that's what is being used to include those sections in the top "Array" page. < 1376063555 678463 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: don't think so. I think it's a reference to the old mussolini pun. < 1376063569 254735 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :already found it < 1376063865 953063 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-160-224.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, not necessarily, "time" and "thyme" are homophones, so it's a pretty obvious joke < 1376063918 894368 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-20-118-11.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1376064024 737778 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: but, but... I am young and naïve... can't I dream of xkcd spreading all over the intarwebs? < 1376064055 183532 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-160-224.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you sure that would be a good thing? < 1376064074 299119 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION has a manic grin
< 1376064457 464388 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, is it really the case that only the Gecko-derived browsers support any of the fancy language-level things (like let, comprehensions, generators, whatnot) of JavaScript 1.7/1.8? Welp. The more you know, I guess. < 1376064539 998993 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1376064569 544941 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1376064905 240518 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose you can use those fancy things in a program meant as the browser extension, or in a XUL application, or maybe in other programs that use the same JavaScript engine, such as Synchronet < 1376064963 468583 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat xkcd > eth0 < 1376065006 163180 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think you can just cat things to network adapters like that < 1376065056 998443 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can cat to a file called "eth0" just fine, though. < 1376065075 163662 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1376065083 496733 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you shouldn't :) < 1376065139 43581 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sadly, you can't even cat to any file in /sys/class/net/eth0/ and get those bytes sent as a raw Ethernet frame. < 1376065299 120327 :valer!valer@kapsi.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1376065420 683669 :valer!valer@kapsi.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi, I was browsing the wiki and noticed that P′′ is both in Category:Implemented (as it should be) and Category:Unimplemented. Must be some MediaWiki glitch. < 1376065433 211953 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome valer < 1376065436 189005 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​03valer: Welcome05 t12o the intern13atio05nal 07hub05 for esoteric progra02m13ming 12lan06g02uage d05e02s13i13gn and06 deployment!03 For more information, 07c05h04eck ou05t 12our wiki: htt10p://08esolangs04.org/wiki/Main11_Pa07ge. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric 11on irc.d09al.net.) < 1376065455 320924 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, it doesn't show in unimplemented to me < 1376065459 380633 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe the cached version is broken... < 1376065475 667433 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :valer: how about now, if you refresh? < 1376065492 942408 :valer!valer@kapsi.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, it isn't there any more for me either. < 1376065504 972582 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this has hapepned before recently, maybe something broke < 1376065821 880755 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_: Just because you can't do something, doesn't mean that you shouldn't =P < 1376065836 962872 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :LEGAL but not POSSIBE < 1376065839 684948 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*POSSIBLE < 1376065887 580049 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has that ever happened in Agora? =P < 1376065915 658012 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: all sorts of things are legal but impossible in Agora < 1376065928 306991 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty much any ISIDTID, for instance < 1376065960 36970 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, saying you do something is both LEGAL and POSSIBLE < 1376065969 143431 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :doing it is legal too < 1376065971 896389 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just impossible < 1376065974 664663 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(usually) < 1376066011 278948 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. So if there was some mechanism that made it possible for you to do it, you wouldn't be breaking any rules by doing so < 1376066012 834977 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Got it < 1376066013 560355 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :=) < 1376066027 131607 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1376067006 553006 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1376067751 575438 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you answer my question from yesterday? < 1376067802 242241 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: only by accident, because I don't know what it is < 1376068124 860772 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK I will repeat < 1376068180 960796 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which people in here have told about what dream they have? I want to know some things such as how commonly things resembling different kinds of logic (or no kinds of logic) applies, and a few others. A few times it has happened when in the dream there was something where linear logic seemed to apply, even though it isn't a case where that would be the case in real life. < 1376068189 686005 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who (and how many) of you have done this? < 1376068317 944033 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happened re: linear logic? < 1376068390 528604 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never had a dream that appeared to follow the rules of linear logic < 1376068462 857587 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I've told about some dream I've had some time, but I know nothing about linear logic < 1376068464 588675 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Things that can ordinary be used together cannot, things that ordinarily don't, instead must, etc, it has a slight resemblence to some of the operators in linear logic, if interpreted in the right way < 1376068481 37418 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Do you know what dream you've had (in general)? < 1376068504 90438 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think you have a rather different intuition of linear logic than me < 1376068513 209394 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is, some. < 1376068545 140545 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Well, there are different things it can apply to. (I think this is case with most systems of logic; there are different applications of them than only what is intended/common.) < 1376068552 977121 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you give some sort of example < 1376068573 115416 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: the main rule of linear logic is that variables cannot be copied or destroyed < 1376068576 978344 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to use them all exactly once < 1376068599 623180 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :scarf: Yes, that is mainly the rule how it works, and then there are multiplicative and additive operators, and so on < 1376068618 947734 :nooodl^!~nooodl@78-20-118-11.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1376068625 507831 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although if you have exclamation/question marks then you can make it allow to use more than once < 1376068634 441784 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :trying to explain all of linear logic in one sentence doesn't work very well < 1376068639 609284 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so explaining the basic idea is normally better < 1376068741 843828 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There were a few examples in my dreams, although one case was a dream where I was thinking of two things at once, one of which could not interact with the rest of my dream, despite being a part of it that isn't being discarded... < 1376068840 398142 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you ever dream that you are someone else? Do you ever dream that you are of a different species? Do you ever dream that you can fly? Do you ever dream in which you have two thoughts at once, one of which is presumably outside of the dream but is actually still only part of the dream? < 1376068848 694767 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or even three levels) < 1376068863 204942 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes I dream that I have a dream < 1376068871 412904 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it gets quite confusing when I dream that I wake up < 1376068921 179271 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was once stuck in a dream loop, kept waking up and everything was normal for a couple of minutes and then... a dinosaur. < 1376068927 332431 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_: It happens to me, but it doesn't confuse me so much really < 1376068936 659381 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: That happen to me too, but without the dinosaur < 1376068936 898327 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've forgotten completely what the password is to my RPi. < 1376068949 800037 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: can you boot up in single-user mode to fix it? < 1376068953 218255 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or does it not have a serial terminal? < 1376068959 29555 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :when it was over, i took a 1.5 hour long walk and kept checking that there is nothing suspicious under the snow < 1376068975 671321 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: I find that when I'm awake it's easy to verify that I'm awake < 1376068982 774032 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but when I'm actually asleep I don't think to check < 1376068989 162261 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :scarf: It has a HDMI port and supports USB keyboards, but I don't really know if the bootloader can take any arguments. < 1376068990 158870 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought so too, until i had this dream < 1376069002 247946 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-20-118-11.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1376069002 758275 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What I find is there is no point in checking this < 1376069012 314896 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :scarf: On the other hand, I can just stick its "hard disk" (a SD card) to a memory card reader and change the password. < 1376069026 831243 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: right < 1376069034 526732 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Once it was the dream that I knew was the dream but I told people in the dream and they didn't believe me. < 1376069038 509342 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :scarf: (Though I can't really shut it down cleanly without being able to login. It doesn't have a soft power switch. Or a hard one.) < 1376069052 791286 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But usually I do not have such a belief) < 1376069059 414485 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: you could just crash it, I guess < 1376069068 145541 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'm going to have to. < 1376069068 383249 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :via cutting the power < 1376069125 675648 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I realize something, that in both cases when I was of a different species, it was the species of the character of a game I have played and made up the character (two different games, though, one D&D and one a MUD). Other thing that might be remarkable is that many people say they often dream they can fly, but I could only fly when I was the correct species. < 1376069167 374696 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are other things too other people report about their dreams, many of which I find I have it differently, although some things are the same in my dreams, but there are many differences. < 1376069180 968767 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :These things seems like remarkable to me. < 1376069315 93764 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Later after I woke up, the flying dream also reminded me of something IKEA once did, where they wrote about measuring the space in a room in cubic units rather than square units. < 1376069352 756997 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"passwd: Cannot determine your user name." < 1376069354 579317 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. < 1376069363 15970 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I gave it a user name argument.) < 1376069404 50326 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(As in, "passwd -R /mounted/thing user". Maybe that's not right.) < 1376069650 530638 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it does a chroot to /mounted/thing and only after that tries to dynamically load some libnss stuff, which of course won't work out. I suppose I need to use some lower-level thing that just edits the shadow file. < 1376069652 313236 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How different are your dreams from mine? < 1376069817 495150 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-160-224.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had a dream that I was hanging out with three Homestuck cosplayers < 1376069826 610687 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-160-224.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A John, a Dave, and a Jade < 1376069833 39799 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-160-224.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I was good friends with the Dave < 1376069853 108141 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-160-224.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then the John cosplayer decided he was going to kill me and the Dave cosplayer and we had to run away < 1376069883 56336 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And what did Jade do? < 1376069888 506317 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-160-224.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stand around < 1376069920 467741 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-160-224.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think she was friends with the John cosplayer but staying neutral on the whole killing us thing < 1376069929 496695 :TodPunk!~Tod@50-198-177-185-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Quit: This is me, signing off. Probably rebooting or something. < 1376070078 915179 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-160-224.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1376070100 88324 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think anyone has ever try to kill me in my dreams, although it has happened (at least) a few times where people were trying to hurt me really badly or inject me with alcoholic drugs or something; I wake up just in time and almost fall off of the bed. < 1376070112 459215 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1376070258 870660 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :More PulseAudio experiences: unplugged the USB device (going to try it out in the Pi) and it went to 100% CPU usage. Then pacmd unload-module'd the USB stick sink/source modules, and it crashed. < 1376070269 691926 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1376070272 670353 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"pulseaudio[3719]: [pulseaudio] proplist.c: Assertion 'p' failed at pulse/proplist.c:71, function pa_proplist_free(). Aborting." < 1376070279 509536 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess "not p". < 1376070284 90805 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't get injected with alcoholic drugs < 1376070382 677240 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Heh =P < 1376070502 177367 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: That is why I wake up exactly in time and almost fall off of the bed from the sudden movement < 1376070524 526443 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So even in the dream I don't be injected with alcoholic drugs. < 1376070686 318620 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are alcoholic drugs? < 1376070692 444597 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :drugs that aren't alcohol, prepared in alcohol solution? < 1376070710 877140 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had some of those < 1376070766 351226 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what they are. < 1376070768 894432 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-20-118-11.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :alcoholic drug list: < 1376070770 807087 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-20-118-11.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :* alcohol < 1376070781 707564 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :alcohol is a p. good solvent < 1376070795 349376 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is just the word I used to describe what happened in my dream < 1376070797 394223 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there also narcotic booze? < 1376071582 851934 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: that is fair, sometimes dreams don't make sense and they need words that don't make sense either < 1376071617 818821 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :borrowchecker ate my balls < 1376071894 998763 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-160-224.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376072446 725362 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla JOIN :#esoteric < 1376072452 235861 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: random question: will you go to the otakuthon? < 1376072460 316677 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1376072497 285161 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I was supposed to >_> < 1376072514 612912 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was supposed to go with a friend of mine < 1376072519 187711 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :But multiple things happened: < 1376072532 855076 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Our costume projects was too ambitious < 1376072544 496214 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :We never planned our backup project < 1376072570 679419 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :She stopped talking to be a couple of days ago < 1376072582 933606 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/to be/to me/g < 1376072622 110778 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. :( < 1376072631 354318 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :It happens < 1376072633 56252 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes < 1376072643 16246 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :We have a pretty weird relatioship anyway < 1376072646 808334 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :relationship* < 1376072655 800461 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION gives a virtual etopen plushie to Roujo to make him feel better
< 1376072680 335182 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I asked because I'm one of the volunteers going there. a friend and I will be presenting mahjong, shōgi and xiangqi. < 1376072701 690938 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :has anyone got the ICFP question yet? < 1376072715 173436 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: btw, if you're ever interested in playing mahjong, we're looking for new members for our club. < 1376072740 725295 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I play mahjong sometimes < 1376072755 872248 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know how to play mahjong and shogi and xiangqi. < 1376072781 25615 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shogi is fun! =D < 1376072806 731385 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shōgi is hard. I suck at it :p < 1376072834 88810 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :katla: Do you mean what the current contest is about? < 1376072840 349413 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1376072864 112548 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://icfpc2013.cloudapp.net/ < 1376072871 20602 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm < 1376072873 346691 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's just the page < 1376072876 627513 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll get the post >_> < 1376072917 423101 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmm < 1376072921 541025 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know any of Fukumoto's manga? < 1376072925 162425 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't seem to be able to find a permalink < 1376072940 801146 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just ctrl+f "Let the games begin!" < 1376072948 609467 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I played shogi once. < 1376072968 17865 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: fukumoto nobuyuki? < 1376072975 57649 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Yes. < 1376073021 732222 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1376073021 953871 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: well, my friends always try to evangelize akagi onto my poor person, but so far I havn't yet succumbed to the temptation. < 1376073026 165791 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's 'guess the function' < 1376073030 956140 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup < 1376073034 11424 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't you guys already implement a solution for this < 1376073039 969626 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol < 1376073046 662678 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have all of the Akagi up to 24. < 1376073078 318006 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :well thats fine im no longer interested in ICFP < 1376073081 375636 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks for the link < 1376073261 747584 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I have a few French version hikaru no go laying about in my library. I think there are also 2 doraemons in there. and I have the Japanese version of yokohama kaidashi kikō. < 1376073266 189080 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1376073290 45752 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, nice < 1376073319 786962 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the last volume of YKK cost me 50 CAD to get it from amazon.co.jp. filthy scammers. < 1376073474 293567 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1376073492 533972 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I have only Akagi. < 1376073543 761905 :dessos!~dessos@c-174-60-176-249.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1376073607 643885 :dessos!~dessos@c-174-60-176-249.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376073619 760701 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I had the omnibus version of all the azumanga daioh, but my brother long-term-borrowed it. < 1376073679 361803 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm thinking of getting nichijō and legend of koizumi next. < 1376073720 572723 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then, there is also some hardcore science-fiction to be had first. < 1376073729 719737 :valer!valer@kapsi.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've heard that a good method to notice if you are dreaming is to look for numbers. When dreaming, numbers tend to change constantly and be vague. I have once succeeded this. I looked at a clock or something and when the numbers changed, I knew I was dreaming. < 1376073762 464190 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if only I could get something as precise as a vague number when I dream... < 1376073772 617453 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :valer: looking at your hands tends to be pretty good in my experience < 1376073778 859428 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :as long as you can handle seeing your hands all messed up < 1376073788 803019 :valer!valer@kapsi.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1376073879 722570 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't work to me, the logic is different when you are sleeping, I just either know or I don't know, and either way it seems to me there is no point in checking even if there is a way to do so. < 1376074053 141806 :valer!valer@kapsi.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Several times when I've been close to waking up and noticed (or half-noticed) that I'm dreaming, I've exploited the fact and started to fly around. < 1376074228 584008 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A lot of people say they fly in their dreams but like I have said I never had except once recently when I was mi-go. I don't know why a lot of people do and I don't. Even though in cases that I do notice I am dreaming, I don't fly. Although once I told someone in the dream that it is the dream, and they didn't believe me! < 1376074300 190893 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think its pretty rare to get to fly in a dream < 1376074312 176241 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it feels great to fly, whether in a dream or not -so people talk about it a lot < 1376074361 582970 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :katla: Some people I have talked to say they do very commonly, and they are still human in those cases, they aren't being a different species or something. I think it is just that different people have different dreams. < 1376074442 978632 :ap3x!~apex@94-225-204-7.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1376074469 277311 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome ap3x < 1376074471 994904 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​07ap3x: Welco11me02 to13 the international hub f06o03r05 es14oteric pr05o03gramming language design and de09ployme12nt! F02o04r more i06nformation, check out our 05wiki: ht07tp://e10solan02gs.org/05w07ik12i/Main_Page. (F10or 10the other kind of esoteric03a05, try #esoteric14 on irc.dal11.09ne13t.)07 < 1376074603 465167 :valer!valer@kapsi.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've also had a rewind feature in dreams. When something really bad happens, I've been able to go back to an earlier point and continue there. < 1376074612 909188 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :useful! < 1376074659 730919 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :valer: btw, do you know a guy called kryft? < 1376074669 394619 :valer!valer@kapsi.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't say I do. < 1376074674 383229 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :valer: Interesting. I don't think I have, though. < 1376074702 842775 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :the way to win ICFP is to choose programs whose counter-examples tell you themost about how to improve them < 1376074710 813502 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea how to do that though < 1376074728 632207 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :valer: you use the same server, is why I asked. < 1376074734 882243 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, too many Finns < 1376074782 284849 :valer!valer@kapsi.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh. The server choice is automatic, probably the closest geographically. I'm in Finland, yes. < 1376074832 145162 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, an interesting datapoint! can I ask him the The Question? pretty please? < 1376074860 24321 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :valer: I mean, kapsi.fi. < 1376074893 233703 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :valer: Have you ever had dreams where you think of two or more things at once, one of which seems at a higher (as in not dreaming) level but actually it is still a dream, where you cannot use those thoughts together for some reason even though they are basically simultaneous? < 1376074897 273857 :valer!valer@kapsi.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, oh, that's a very popular non-profit shell provider here. < 1376074934 304310 :TodPunk!~Tod@50-198-177-185-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376074950 882557 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :valer: And do you ever dream in which you are a different species? < 1376074970 584652 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :valer: he's the kind of guy who goes into fizzie's office and tells him speech recognition sucks and to op me. < 1376075120 1420 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :valer: I would like to know what features you have/haven't had in your dream, to see how to compare between different people (including myself) < 1376075127 768796 :valer!valer@kapsi.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, that's quite a specific concept, I'd have to look for it while sleeping. And about the species, I think I've been some other animal/creature but can't remember now. I've been a non-human ghost/spirit entity at least. < 1376075149 627410 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I once read that someone has had a dream tat ended in credits. < 1376075169 778949 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had black and white dreams a few times. < 1376075191 378102 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can someone here whip up a quick'n'dirty poll to check our dream features? < 1376075261 893671 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: We would have to see how to do that and what kind of things to write in such a poll. It isn't quite that simple. < 1376075288 849461 :valer!valer@kapsi.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have had god-like powers at times in dreams. Once I was an evil spirit who took great joy in terrifying people. < 1376075310 556358 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I have had in black and white. At one time I thought you dream in black and white because the room is dark, but once the room was dark and my dream was still in colors, so that can't be in. < 1376075463 113046 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :valer: Interesting; I was never had. Only two cases I was as a different species, was still physical, and in both cases a species of a character I made up in a game I have played (once D&D, once a MUD). I was never evil nor a spirit. < 1376075503 886157 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the one that I fly, for some reason, I lived in an apartment (although I do not actually live in an apartment in real life), together with my family and friends < 1376075550 549130 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I didn't live in a apartment in the game where the species is from, either) < 1376075678 855672 :valer!valer@kapsi.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've had some very colorful and epic adventure dreams. They're fun but not that common. Manyt times my dreams have resembled a movie, but alas no end credits. < 1376075696 64672 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://static.bbc.co.uk/programmeimages/608xn/images/p01dw05r.jpg image brought to you by the BBC < 1376075698 156844 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't had credits either but I have read that someone has. < 1376075708 480496 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is jealous of people who have real, structured, precise dreams
< 1376075709 710888 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Bike: I think you would enjoy clicking this ^ < 1376075718 147789 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I especially like AREN'Y < 1376075726 569400 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's scots! < 1376075740 895431 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I almost have. < 1376075771 343142 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: thanks. I feel reassured to be similar to a normal person like you. < 1376075780 243046 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: is Adam Curtis scottish < 1376075804 55073 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1376075806 90206 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you think I am a normal person? I think not (but who really is a "normal" person?). < 1376075903 374223 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, considering the kind of people we attract on this fïne chännel, I guess you fit well with others. < 1376075930 983946 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: O, OK, that's what you mean. < 1376075937 134686 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and subnormality answered that normal question some time ago. < 1376076070 928129 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1376076318 435391 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps you know that I am strange because of my philosophies and religions, because I like to play monster character in Dungeons&Dragons game (and other game), because of various questions I write about, and because I do esolang stuff, and other things possibly < 1376076348 783310 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1376076366 259188 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and haha < 1376076370 186024 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are strange, therefore you are normal :p < 1376076415 47288 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But, who is really a "normal" people??? < 1376076418 479987 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think most people around here are unusual in a good way < 1376076433 24664 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :katla: Yes, I think so, too, I think that is a good thing < 1376076775 23071 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay, a middle-endian 24-bit number. (As in, value 0x123456 is represented by the bytes 0x12 0x56 0x34.) < 1376076805 495194 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :middle-endian... just why... < 1376076880 615900 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :normal people suck < 1376077017 175727 :valer!valer@kapsi.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's probably some performance benefit in meddle-endianness in some screwed-up architecture. < 1376077083 105367 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember a thing where softfp on ARM was like, mixed endian? < 1376077108 492673 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, doubles were EFGH ABCD instead of little-endian (ABCDEFGH) or big-endian (HGFEDCBA) < 1376077124 531676 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :buh < 1376077132 776391 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: whyyyyy < 1376077144 853158 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: buh? < 1376077155 77193 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :buh < 1376077161 1823 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :buh! < 1376077182 297636 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :if your arch is faster with MIDDLE endian numbers you probably did something wrong < 1376077195 552099 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :¡ɥnq < 1376077216 786708 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I have read that OHRRPGCE archive files use middle endian for the file sizes (but not for other numbers). < 1376077220 939074 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"mistakes were made" < 1376077239 536363 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck ohrrpgce < 1376077239 938447 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Official Hamster Republic Role Playing Game Creation Engine, abbreviated as OHRRPGCE or OHR, is an open-source, "All-in-one" game creation system. < 1376077299 167567 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It isn't a very good system though there are many things I wanted to do which it lacks, which is why I will rewrite Uselessness RPG using other systems. < 1376077461 415697 :valer!valer@kapsi.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Being good enough for hamster role play doesn't imply fitness for general games. < 1376077512 299863 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I decided to make the first one using Z-machine and without graphics (I am not very good at making the graphics), and I have on paper I am writing how I will decide to encode the stuff, what locations, what characters, ability scores, skills, etc. So far I have listed four characters and the old man doesn't yet have a name. < 1376077587 406884 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you and others can help me too. (And maybe the sequel might have graphics, and might be written in SQL or something else instead) < 1376077800 676127 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can write ideas/questions/complaints you have, if you have anything to write. < 1376077836 287374 :valer!valer@kapsi.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does your project have github or something? < 1376077839 27630 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have and idea/question/complaint to write: can you github the thing? < 1376077853 486227 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn. I've been ninj-valer-aed. < 1376077861 634519 :valer!valer@kapsi.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1376077864 895287 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1376077899 212578 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No it doesn't, at least not at this time. I don't know if I will put a git repository, but for now I am writing it on a paper anyways; I didn't put it into the computer yet. < 1376077950 787669 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION unleashes some random cetacean on valer. “that'll teach ya, or at least it'll beluga ya!”
< 1376077954 458724 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1376077971 796839 :valer!valer@kapsi.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ouch. < 1376077977 440390 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :some day, we'll have git for paper. that will be a glorious, revision controled day. < 1376077997 775531 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably it will be all in one file anyways, unless I have music. < 1376078056 717219 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of music in files, do we have an easily editable and revisionable text format out there? < 1376078079 67448 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you mean music files or text files? < 1376078085 876409 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1376078099 504727 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you please be more specific? < 1376078100 762958 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's lilypond, but I don't count it as easy. < 1376078105 583146 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :↑ < 1376078121 638998 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :something with a simple syntax that can be compiled to sheet music. < 1376078123 342065 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is Music Macro Language, and that is what I use for music. < 1376078128 76582 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oooooh! < 1376078172 247094 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :MML isn't designed for sheet music though, but, I would hope that something simpler than Lilypond can be made up that would use MML and compile into .DVI format. < 1376078206 836780 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but the quality of the printout also has to be improved like Lilypond is, rather than using a bad quality printout.) < 1376078235 657046 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. MML reminds me of my old BASIC days... < 1376078362 383158 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :BASIC uses a simple kind of MML, but there is more sophisticated ones with multi-track and other things; there is ppMCK for compiling MML into .NSF, and I have even added some things into ppMCK such as tail recursion and the * and ? commands (I find * and ? very useful for writing chords, although they are useful for other things too) < 1376078438 788687 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1376078527 180156 :valer!valer@kapsi.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's XML representations of MIDI and such. < 1376078534 912124 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-160-224.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1376078630 47052 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :valer: hello. my name is boily. you mentioned XML. prepare to be cetaceaned. < 1376078664 877225 :valer!valer@kapsi.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I accidentally XML. Is this bad? < 1376078752 794866 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376078966 690653 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastequotes < 1376078972 295370 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.12235 < 1376079418 708234 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :computers will never play music as good as people. fact. < 1376079445 102225 :valer!valer@kapsi.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a feeling that a computer would disagree. < 1376079473 102840 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :computers will never disagree with people as good as people. < 1376079500 866230 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps 'as well' if you prefer < 1376079504 391549 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just took two advils. don't give me a new headache please. < 1376079520 730133 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :music is hard. think of the fluid dynamics < 1376079542 828394 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION collapses in a twitching lump on the floor
< 1376079547 478367 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip < 1376079553 171475 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip in peace < 1376080032 139136 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fyi, the floored lump that I am ain't dead yet. < 1376080169 130475 :valer!valer@kapsi.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Things that I hate the most: < 1376080169 373457 :valer!valer@kapsi.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :* Lists < 1376080169 373606 :valer!valer@kapsi.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :* Irony < 1376080169 373653 :valer!valer@kapsi.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :* People flooding IRC with pointless jokes < 1376080236 962794 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only way that joke could be funnier is if it didn't exist < 1376080352 811206 :valer!valer@kapsi.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Agreed. < 1376080620 933573 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I don't really know whyyyyy, but it was a case where the field on-disk has three bytes, but after loading, in-memory, the first byte (the high one) is overwritten, and the two low ones are used as a segment value. < 1376080668 219295 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1376080672 676083 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also pretty impressive A/V sync from mplayer + pulseaudio native TCP + RPi + USB sound card in the same hub as the Ethernet interface; I wonder if it does some latency estimation mplayer can use.) < 1376081523 699133 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION kicks github in the unicorn
< 1376081651 979118 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell zzo38 my impression of my dreams is that they're a window into something profoundly lacking in logical structure. < 1376081652 216174 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1376081702 1728 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, well, to me there is sometimes still some kind of logic, but not necessarily the kind of logic which would seem correct for the situation. < 1376081730 330860 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: there are fragments of _meaning_ in the dreams, but there's no way of composing two fragments and concluding anything. < 1376081779 8352 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dream fragments do not form a category. < 1376081811 772004 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Perhaps to you it is. To me it is different; it tends to be like a strange kind of logic more often than it is no logic at all, although it is sometimes the logic that corresponds to real life too. < 1376081881 472045 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: maybe you have found something others haven't discovered, in which case you should try and deduce the rules for the rest of us. < 1376081907 395066 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Even if it does, it doesn't necessarily mean it applies to you. < 1376081911 492527 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :alternatively, the logic may get into your dreams from thinking a lot about logic in waking life... < 1376082010 641536 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yeah, i don't really expect dreams to be comparable from person to person except on a deep emotional/symbolic level. < 1376082128 246671 :Canaimero-ccd!~la_mami@190.202.85.2 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376082147 178381 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It happens even before I think about logic, actually < 1376082160 283192 :Canaimero-ccd!~la_mami@190.202.85.2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hola < 1376082160 759296 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`@ Canaimero-ccd ? welcome.es < 1376082162 642374 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Canaimero-ccd: ¡Bienvenido al centro internacional para el diseño y despliegue de lenguajes de programación esotéricos! Para obtener más información, echa un vistazo a nuestro wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (Para el otro tipo de esoterismo, prueba #esoteric en irc.dal.net.) < 1376082165 442410 :Canaimero-ccd!~la_mami@190.202.85.2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :soy modelo < 1376082188 722692 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but maybe there is backward causality; it sometimes seems like that) < 1376082203 306373 :Canaimero-ccd!~la_mami@190.202.85.2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :como estan < 1376082204 345527 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if that message should say something about conversation here being generally in english < 1376082221 688315 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes maybe it should help < 1376082227 213579 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Canaimero-ccd: no hablo español < 1376082235 32609 :Canaimero-ccd!~la_mami@190.202.85.2 PART :#esoteric < 1376082255 655272 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but... I didn't have time to `rienvenido him... < 1376082266 345948 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: someone made that? < 1376082273 940466 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bienvenido < 1376082275 74082 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: bienvenido: not found < 1376082279 161994 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rienvenido < 1376082280 212115 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: rienvenido: not found < 1376082287 742115 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok not < 1376082368 274811 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: But I can give an example of the logic, for example: I was a different species and found a place that, I had the thought (independently) that it was a place I (as a human, though) had been to before. However, this wasn't true (it was also the dream), but in addition, it was independent and could not be combined with another thought in the dream. It reminds me of how in some kinds of logic you cannot always use things together < 1376082449 574943 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's/os!/os! Por desgracia, la mayoría de nosotros no hablamos español./' wisdom/welcome.es < 1376082452 732836 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1376082459 803314 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? welcome.es < 1376082461 662907 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​¡Bienvenido al centro internacional para el diseño y despliegue de lenguajes de programación esotéricos! Por desgracia, la mayoría de nosotros no hablamos español. Para obtener más información, echa un vistazo a nuestro wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (Para el otro tipo de esoterismo, prueba #esoteric en irc.dal.net.) < 1376082471 932348 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? welcome.fr < 1376082473 581897 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :welcome.fr? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1376082473 952399 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                 | < 1376082474 152271 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69               º¯`\o < 1376082491 387370 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :first thing Monday morning. < 1376082505 23001 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i think the large number of spanish people is because the channel name starts with es < 1376082511 952475 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1376082516 934491 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well. < 1376082519 672335 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least that's my theory. < 1376082538 82844 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :time to go eat. goodnight all! < 1376082543 413117 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-66-95.public.wayport.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376082546 193166 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: Smile at the incoming whale! < 1376082557 691181 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376082578 936871 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do sometimes not notice things until after the dream, for example it reminded me of IKEA's measuring space in a room using cubic measurements. < 1376082725 583273 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls wisdom/welcome* < 1376082727 346186 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/welcome \ wisdom/welcome.bork \ wisdom/welcome.es < 1376082791 510253 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/welcome < 1376082792 752717 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/usr/bin/perl -w \ if (defined($_=shift)) { s/ *$//; s/ +/ @ /g; exec "bin/@", $_ . " ? welcome"; } else { exec "bin/?", "welcome"; } < 1376082880 612278 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed 's/welcome/welcome.es/' bin/welcome > bin/bienvenido; chmod +x bin/bienvenido < 1376082884 181828 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1376082890 162979 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bienvenido < 1376082892 93022 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1376082898 474054 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1376082912 640562 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :og < 1376082915 74837 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*oh < 1376082927 153586 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed 's/welcome/welcome.es/g' bin/welcome > bin/bienvenido; chmod +x bin/bienvenido < 1376082931 344982 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1376082934 952961 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bienvenido < 1376082936 902880 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​¡Bienvenido al centro internacional para el diseño y despliegue de lenguajes de programación esotéricos! Por desgracia, la mayoría de nosotros no hablamos español. Para obtener más información, echa un vistazo a nuestro wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (Para el otro tipo de esoterismo, prueba #esoteric en irc.dal.net.) < 1376082986 88739 :valer!valer@kapsi.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about a non-deterministic self-modifying esolang that simulates dreaming :P < 1376083014 107059 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :eek another finn! < 1376083031 458216 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :valer: Good; write in list of ideas on the wiki. < 1376083038 593403 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`WeLcOmE valer < 1376083041 24188 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :VaLeR: wElCoMe tO ThE InTeRnAtIoNaL HuB FoR EsOtErIc pRoGrAmMiNg lAnGuAgE DeSiGn aNd dEpLoYmEnT! fOr mOrE InFoRmAtIoN, cHeCk oUt oUr wIkI: hTtP://EsOlAnGs.oRg/wIkI/MaIn_pAgE. (FoR ThE OtHeR KiNd oF EsOtErIcA, tRy #EsOtErIc oN IrC.DaL.NeT.) < 1376083055 394214 :valer!valer@kapsi.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hI < 1376083357 705064 :valer!valer@kapsi.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :That URL doesn't work, in case you wondered. < 1376083395 333694 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :complain to elliott, not that it has helped before < 1376083443 346140 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem is stuck between his overengineering and his laziness :P < 1376083493 197576 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sentence describes me :/ < 1376083506 413276 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(he wants to make it work for all wiki pages, _and_ change the contents as well. this is for `WELCOME but i assume `WeLcOmE would be a small step after that. < 1376083509 393666 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1376083534 63467 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it's ok i have things stuck in the same place. < 1376083628 184078 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :like both of my unimplemented esolangs... < 1376083690 603674 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://24.media.tumblr.com/3b6bc5d878e7bddabd373c7781a4a3d1/tumblr_mr3nydWdgH1r7sn1go1_1280.jpg gotta save this for when people ask what it's like where i live < 1376083717 107522 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :mystery crater country? < 1376083758 658544 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :as opposed to perfectly explicable crater country < 1376083918 720123 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: we note that in the future the darién gap has got worse rather than better < 1376084004 484769 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, after Oxfam was taken over by the meerkat-people they launched a development initiative. It's pretty easy for the nuclear people to drive up to visit the human reserve. < 1376084019 254644 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1376084049 793494 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The gorillas have a big wall to keep out human migrants, though. Say humans are too lazy to work as anything but slaves. < 1376084061 175022 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Major international hominid rights debate there < 1376084140 316395 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I think they should just make /wIkI/MaIn_pAgE to redirect. < 1376084199 273334 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love how git add -p lets you edit individual diff hunks < 1376084203 804480 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i am basically supernaturally good at this < 1376084379 135453 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I've ever tried the command line version of that ... git gui is very handy for it < 1376084491 395134 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, but what are the nuclear people like < 1376084511 265985 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly they are sentient uranium hth < 1376084519 977975 :valer!valer@kapsi.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, I see you have an enviably lush head of hair. < 1376084536 677010 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh, that's not me. i'm a bike, not a human. < 1376084543 846117 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, they might be cheelas < 1376084545 302010 :valer!valer@kapsi.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1376084580 861374 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: hm plausible < 1376084773 965016 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :god damn Crystal Castles is so good < 1376084785 907703 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could be seeing Alice Glass perform at a club tonight if I had my shit even a little together to buy tickets etc < 1376084788 986102 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well < 1376084828 509216 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm suffering from perennial Fringe Guilt < 1376084970 465787 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's that < 1376085027 238609 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :when only realised the fringe was happening during the fireworks show at the end < 1376086441 669589 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey someone give me a function where finding its fixed point(s) is impossible computably < 1376086533 358232 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :BB(x)? < 1376086624 5781 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, some turing encoding thing < 1376086716 9196 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but i'm too lazy to think of one. < 1376086721 809025 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: i'm pretty sure you can prove BB(x) > x < 1376086753 871884 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, of course you can. BB(x) grows faster than any computable function, and identity is computable < 1376086833 798486 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so BB(x) has no fixed point I guess? < 1376086841 966661 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1376086845 302319 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that technically satisfies Bike's requirement < 1376086856 748485 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a lot of things don't have fixed points though, right? < 1376086858 870953 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :f(x) = x+1 < 1376086882 471070 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1376086885 148628 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ok how about "finding the fixed points or lack thereof is not computable", smartass :p < 1376086900 435992 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :some turing encoding thing < 1376086915 868254 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :stfu!!! < 1376086924 98320 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :f(x) = (is the collatz conjecture true ? x : x+1) < 1376086928 148483 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :>:3 < 1376086935 231875 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, i guess that actually works pretty well < 1376086954 769648 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i'm kind of curious about the complexity really, like computing a polynomial is pretty easy but computing its fixed points is rootfinding which is less easy < 1376086985 838870 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you mean "is there a computable function for which cmoputing fixed points is uncomputable"? < 1376087006 739163 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, though it doesn't have to be computable itself, i guess, i only want it for an example < 1376087008 579953 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I don't understand Bike's question < 1376087029 71114 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :since like if the codomain is the integers then any given fixed point is an integer < 1376087032 88621 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and hence computable) < 1376087057 328472 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and any other way of "finding" it is just a longwinded way to compute a constant < 1376087111 823120 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and like Fiora's function, finding a fixed point of it is trivial iff the Collatz conjecture is true, the problem there is more in knowing what the function is at all, so I kind of don't understand how it satisfies Bike's requirements < 1376087116 640754 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but uh I don't know any of this stuff really < 1376087133 305641 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :neither do I , I don't reallyh get it < 1376087270 590176 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not that important < 1376087531 681887 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-66-95.public.wayport.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376087581 951063 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1376088266 710375 :valer!valer@kapsi.fi QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1376088687 753973 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1376088864 734315 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does GitHub have any simpler webpage without all of the fancy stuff on it? < 1376088894 524521 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: To accomplish what? < 1376088904 981618 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-20-118-11.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1376088922 351945 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: To make it faster. < 1376088957 772048 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think some SVN repositories have that, where you just get a directory listing with absolutely nothing else. < 1376089140 967969 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376089499 938907 :ap3x!~apex@94-225-204-7.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: Computer says no < 1376089596 515808 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1376090163 304039 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there any way to enter a low-bandwidth mode or something like that? < 1376090577 956505 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376091173 497815 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376091197 382530 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1376091533 228929 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1376091570 426436 :nooodl^!~nooodl@78-20-118-11.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1376092106 268169 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376092579 18059 :iamfishhead!~jgoldste@192.147.44.15 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds