< 1376179498 896809 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1376180912 10973 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1376181083 322095 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man, I wish my computer viruses affected my files in the 'right way'. < 1376181357 219421 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1376181402 617346 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmm. How about a programming language based entirely on indirection. < 1376181408 300533 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1376181415 603127 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: NihilistDandy < 1376181561 151515 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1376181581 211778 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are CPUs still slow < 1376181582 585269 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah. < 1376181589 5772 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :They aren't. They're very fast. < 1376181594 510249 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're just trying to do too many calculations. < 1376181638 49734 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're optimized for like Ms-Excel < 1376181670 439278 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and other similar awful computation tasks that are just a jumble of load/stores and jumps < 1376181717 280379 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're in 2013, where's my 32xfloat wide SIMD < 1376181856 539830 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the GPUs are doing it already < 1376182046 160587 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, here's an idea. Co-lambda calculus. < 1376182071 997502 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'd be, like, uh... < 1376182154 11715 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1376182343 796683 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376182510 19469 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about co-BCKW calculus. The combinators are defined like so: B x y z = x (y z); C x y z = x z y; K x = x y; W x y y = x y. < 1376182583 422283 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :When you evaluate K x, it creates a new variable and applies x to it. When you evaluate W x y z, it adds the equation y = z and gives you x y. < 1376182625 576409 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whenever there's an outstanding equation... I dunno. < 1376182701 232390 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno either. < 1376184118 40097 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376184327 696491 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376184826 706125 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i heard mountain view is the place to be < 1376184830 128927 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should move there < 1376184832 380592 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :false < 1376184843 834054 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it depends < 1376184846 688590 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :are all non-strict haskell functions constant < 1376184852 45319 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also hello from dorm/prison cell < 1376184854 320734 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you like ``the city'' or no < 1376184876 186681 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: no < 1376184889 827705 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: (1:) is non-strict and non-constant < 1376184892 921847 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like going to the city < 1376184897 277544 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i imagine that i'd enjoy living there but who knows < 1376184906 128764 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: oh no where are you < 1376184939 694543 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just is non-strict and non-constant < 1376184975 705195 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok yeah constructors that makes sense < 1376184990 976563 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix Just < 1376184991 887540 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Occurs check: cannot construct the infinite type: < 1376184992 87617 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : a0 = Data.Maybe.Maybe ... < 1376184993 927194 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i'm at school. < 1376185003 459945 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix (1:) < 1376185004 411131 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,... < 1376185024 56806 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1:undefined < 1376185024 955443 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1*Exception: Prelude.undefined < 1376185053 398592 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so bottom isn't a fixed point of 1:. < 1376185089 354719 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1376185100 123044 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the least-defined fixed point of (1:) is [1,1,1,... < 1376185111 446060 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are non-strict non-constant functions that aren't equivalent to constructors, though < 1376185151 996174 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :like? < 1376185165 631476 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t let f x = (let Just y = x in Just (y+1)) in f < 1376185166 315695 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Num a => Maybe a -> Maybe a < 1376185177 817034 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's probably a simpler example < 1376185194 637001 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this maps Just x to Just (x+1), and Nothing to Just undefined < 1376185213 312368 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and undefined also to Just undefined < 1376185213 676047 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let f x = (let Just y = x in Just (y+1)) in f 4 < 1376185214 585792 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : No instance for (GHC.Show.Show a0) < 1376185214 786294 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : arising from a use of `M1929720252.sh... < 1376185221 607850 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let f x = (let Just y = x in Just (y+1)) in f Just 4 < 1376185222 657127 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `a2 -> t0' < 1376185222 857546 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : with actual type `Data... < 1376185225 46800 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let f x = (let Just y = x in Just (y+1)) in f $ Just 4 < 1376185226 37994 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Just 5 < 1376185240 306603 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let f x = (let Just y = x in Just (y+1)) in f undefine < 1376185241 112287 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `undefine' < 1376185241 312473 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Perhaps you meant `undefined' (imported from Prel... < 1376185241 513236 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let f x = (let Just y = x in Just (y+1)) in f undefined < 1376185242 266255 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Just *Exception: Prelude.undefined < 1376185247 86024 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird function imo < 1376185308 157530 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :throwing numbers into the mix is a little confusing because the strictness of (+) etc. depends on the particular Num instance < 1376185311 426100 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let f x = (let Just y = x in Just (y+1)) in fix f < 1376185314 935888 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: Time limit exceeded < 1376185362 642736 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let f x = (let Just y = x in Just (y+1)) in f Nothing < 1376185363 557809 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Just *Exception: :3:16-25: Irrefutable pattern failed for patt... < 1376185452 292249 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you classify things like if' :: Bool -> a -> a -> a under "constant function" < 1376185464 156911 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: when Blake and I lived in Manhattan he complained all the time about how terrible the city is, so I guess it's not surprising that he wants to live in MV and not SF < 1376185485 216582 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i don't understand what that is. < 1376185504 862610 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: if' True x y = x; if' False x y = y < 1376185513 849075 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the other a < 1376185519 210816 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait. < 1376185520 236489 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's often given as an example of a kind of thing you can do with non-strictness. < 1376185520 437034 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow. < 1376185523 959047 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck me. < 1376185528 496055 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: the return value hth < 1376185540 378984 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :uuuuugh just a sec < 1376185543 800556 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PART #esoteric :"shame" < 1376185560 883834 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :????? < 1376185578 937811 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1376185817 397495 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1376185818 178401 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::? < 1376185843 798507 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :¿:? < 1376185950 480129 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.141.161 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376186004 33276 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> iterate (\x -> "¿" ++ x ++ "?") ":" < 1376186004 987445 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : [":","\191:?","\191\191:??","\191\191\191:???","\191\191\191\191:????","\19... < 1376186011 343417 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :¿:? < 1376186150 828754 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.141.161 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1376186467 80712 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1376186489 299018 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> text "\u2e18" < 1376186490 218406 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:8: < 1376186490 418610 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : lexical error in string/character literal at character 'u' < 1376186568 891136 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :\x hth < 1376186598 220044 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1376187080 688162 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1376188580 272553 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1376188777 233269 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.141.161 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> text $ unwords $ take 20 $ iterate (\x -> "¿" ++ x ++ "?") ":" < 1376188777 963236 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : : ¿:? ¿¿:?? ¿¿¿:??? ¿¿¿¿:???? ¿¿¿¿¿:????? ¿¿¿¿¿¿:?????... < 1376189076 880529 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :¿?¿¿?¿?¿¿?¿¿?¿?¿¿?¿?¿¿?¿¿?¿?¿¿?¿¿?¿?¿¿?¿?¿¿?¿¿?¿?¿¿?¿?¿¿?¿¿?¿?¿¿?¿¿?¿?¿¿?¿?¿¿?¿¿?¿?¿¿?¿¿?¿?¿¿?¿?¿¿?¿¿?¿?¿¿?¿?¿¿?¿¿?¿?¿¿?¿¿?¿?¿¿?¿?¿¿?¿¿?¿?¿¿?¿?¿ < 1376189116 956406 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmm. < 1376189255 317638 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmmmmm. < 1376189304 59728 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there an infinite sequence S of 1s and 0s such that for all finite sequences T of 1s and 0s, there exists a natural number N such that for all substrings S' of S of length at least N, T is a substring of S'? < 1376189318 182448 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, certainly not. < 1376189348 4992 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Suppose that the sequence "1" appears, oh, in every substring of length at least 8. Then the sequence "00000000" doesn't occur at all. Qed. < 1376189366 666305 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :All right, what Very Important thing was I doing... < 1376191127 929011 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1376191240 954813 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there an infinite sequence S of 1s and 0s that encodes every interesting theorem about infinite sequences of 1s and 0s < 1376191283 481974 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are uncountably many. < 1376191713 28787 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376191798 394814 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.141.161 QUIT :Quit: Ik ga weg < 1376192028 716938 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1376192070 921698 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a pattern of binary or trinary digits that stays the same or mostly the same when multiplied by 3^n / 2^m < 1376192083 699114 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(where n and m can be any integer) < 1376192092 583560 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(positive) < 1376192124 621953 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or that evolves but in a relatively ordered way (like, game of life ordered) < 1376192337 602554 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, good question. < 1376192517 768511 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1376192628 153031 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like Fukumoto's mangas? < 1376192679 990296 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Me? < 1376192706 493240 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't read any. < 1376192714 193798 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I read it I think it is very good. < 1376192792 339290 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems that Akagi declares no-ten riichi a lot more than good mahjong players would ordinarily do. < 1376192822 839799 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :They also make a lot of extreme bluffs and tricks and that stuff. < 1376193395 872875 :Bike_!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1376194146 444695 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1376194655 915135 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376194915 735767 :Bike_!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu NICK :Bike < 1376195200 992127 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376195247 978646 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376195571 3270 :iamfishhead!~jgoldste@home.pointlesstopology.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1376196878 861236 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1376197166 298450 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there such a thing as a "free ring" (as in mathematical)? < 1376198170 469323 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have an idea of what I want, but I don't know if that is what will be called a "free ring". < 1376198187 572001 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is it < 1376198226 117635 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, actually what I am wanting is probably what should be called a "free commutative ring". < 1376198251 56557 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1376198320 500915 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If there is a set "S" and the elements of this ring is multisets made up of elements of S (or lists if you omit "commutative"), and then it is a multiset of these multisets, is what I mean. < 1376198366 743810 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that correct? < 1376198418 996281 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Well, you must consider they can be negative too, if it is a ring rather than a semiring, I think) < 1376198475 391017 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now is that it? < 1376198559 714773 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Therefore, it is a signed multiset of these multisets? < 1376198977 952634 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376199782 423413 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Quit: Radiateur < 1376199973 393893 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376200268 115774 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :help i think homestuck is broken < 1376200711 496591 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Me too < 1376200731 988560 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro, I'm feeling bored and stupid, what OS should I attempt to install on my laptop < 1376200790 75264 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Be < 1376200790 749670 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Depend what you require < 1376200813 243846 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want to load fast and simple then install FreeDOS < 1376200817 581486 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, I really don't require anything for my laptop, I barely use it < 1376200862 14784 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://lambda-the-ultimate.org/node/4784 wow ltu is good < 1376200876 416721 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(seriously why is this allowed though) < 1376200924 31908 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Well, if you don't have a computer with FreeDOS then maybe install that one. If you don't have a computer with Linux then maybe you should install Linux. < 1376200935 710104 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :»Turnstile (⊢) shouldn't scare you. It was invented long ago by Frege and is standard mathematical notation. It is not "mumbo-jumbo".« < 1376200962 597719 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, I use Ubuntu pretty much exclusively. Some people say that's Linux < 1376200966 526521 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see that you are a strong advocate of Wikipedia including its policies of censorship, outlawry, and vilification of academics by anonymous Administrators. < 1376200969 177143 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeDOS does not interest me < 1376200988 293343 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ubuntu is one Linux distribution. < 1376201046 509418 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you can install ReactOS, if you are OK that it still isn't quite ready yet. < 1376201064 598660 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But from what I can tell, FreeDOS is loading and running much faster than the other one. < 1376201130 414237 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the computer and CRT is turned on at the same time it will already be loaded when the picture is visible. < 1376201139 562344 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :who uses a crt < 1376201159 404727 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am using that for comparison. < 1376201214 478442 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Linux and Windows takes long time to start. < 1376201234 477875 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1376201247 500982 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking about a different Linux < 1376201276 338322 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, install a different Linux distribution. (I don't know which one you want.) < 1376201301 186572 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hence my query < 1376201310 924946 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about nix < 1376201401 331764 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, I don't know much about nix < 1376201529 877242 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1376201582 323351 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1376201613 361606 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :taneb: is that a problem < 1376201623 85435 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not really < 1376201883 648733 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll give it a go :) < 1376201908 15686 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1376202939 162891 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, now I have an SD card that has the power to boot nixOS < 1376202978 641288 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck yeah nixos < 1376203047 819206 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :please provide nixos trip report < 1376203148 752461 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Decided to go for the minimum install < 1376203150 774361 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Booting... < 1376203195 828839 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :An error occured in stage 1 of the boot process < 1376203205 601147 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sux < 1376203207 444133 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i, too, would be interested in a nixos trip report < 1376203219 870342 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: do you like my ongoing [rust trip report] < 1376203237 332682 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how ongoing do you mean < 1376203242 877154 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it goes on < 1376203254 742532 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that anything like kmc's other trip reports? < 1376203264 251133 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it's a drugz joke I'm sorry < 1376203283 133170 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't given many trip reports here I think < 1376203292 291626 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i think that was kmc's drugz joke < 1376203305 385656 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I stole it :( < 1376203328 728903 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, punch-line pincher < 1376203399 89454 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Decided to run Memtest and now my screen is full of dots < 1376203399 957693 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :dongs < 1376203429 117115 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: can we have another trip report < 1376203436 131055 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"for comparison" < 1376203447 857922 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you supposed to produce trip reports during or after < 1376203528 875018 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :check erowid < 1376203543 550791 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they say write drunk, edit sober < 1376203609 722304 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if it's a drugz that makes you more sober than usual < 1376203611 48982 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is kmc going to put his rust trip report on erowid < 1376203656 702714 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Update: my screen is still full of dots < 1376203666 711863 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: should i bring the mölkky back with me < 1376203671 102655 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1376203679 291745 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd need something to put it in < 1376203685 608364 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zardoz has spoken < 1376203893 890149 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: why do mozilla server people get +q and +o simultaneously < 1376204000 488287 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1376204188 783373 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still dots but they make a different noise < 1376204367 541961 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :tempest for eliza < 1376204675 407980 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still dots, same noise < 1376204805 889860 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :same as the original or as the different < 1376204856 388456 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The different one < 1376204861 599930 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The noise comes from the fan < 1376205506 809366 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Quit: sacje < 1376206022 1346 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1376206359 826864 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The dots have stopped while I was having breakfast < 1376206361 814877 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The noise, too < 1376206433 936763 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1376206603 833675 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rungcc struct timespec t; clock_getres(CLOCK_REALTIME, &t); printf("%ld\n", t->tv_nsec); < 1376206609 730073 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: rungcc: not found < 1376206616 708664 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`gccrun struct timespec t; clock_getres(CLOCK_REALTIME, &t); printf("%ld\n", t->tv_nsec); < 1376206620 205970 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/tmp/gccrun.wwnAiEwf/command.c: In function ‘main’: \ /tmp/gccrun.wwnAiEwf/command.c:20: error: ‘CLOCK_REALTIME’ undeclared (first use in this function) \ /tmp/gccrun.wwnAiEwf/command.c:20: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once \ /tmp/gccrun.wwnAiEwf/command.c:20: error: for each function it appears in.) \ /tmp/gccrun. < 1376206730 777530 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo $'#include \n#include \nmain(){struct timespec t; clock_getres(CLOCK_REALTIME, &t); printf("%ld\n", t->tv_nsec);}\n' > /tmp/tmp.c && gcc /tmp/tmp.c -o /tmp/tmp -std=gnu99 -lrt && /tmp/tmp < 1376206732 516566 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/tmp/tmp.c:3: warning: return type defaults to ‘int’ \ /tmp/tmp.c:3:68: warning: missing terminating " character \ /tmp/tmp.c: In function ‘main’: \ /tmp/tmp.c:3: error: missing terminating " character \ /tmp/tmp.c:4:1: warning: missing terminating " character \ /tmp/tmp.c:4: error: missing terminating " character \ /tmp/tmp.c:4: error: < 1376206761 620355 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo $'#include \n#include \nmain(){struct timespec t; clock_getres(CLOCK_REALTIME, &t); printf("%ld", t->tv_nsec);}\n' > /tmp/tmp.c && gcc /tmp/tmp.c -o /tmp/tmp -std=gnu99 -lrt && /tmp/tmp < 1376206763 462185 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/tmp/tmp.c:3: warning: return type defaults to ‘int’ \ /tmp/tmp.c: In function ‘main’: \ /tmp/tmp.c:3: error: invalid type argument of ‘->’ (have ‘struct timespec’) < 1376206787 714192 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i -e 's/->/./' /tmp/tmp.c && gcc /tmp/tmp.c -o /tmp/tmp -std=gnu99 -lrt && /tmp/tmp < 1376206789 373120 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: can't read /tmp/tmp.c: No such file or directory < 1376206798 894006 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh < 1376206805 324441 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :/tmp isn't preserved < 1376207013 7525 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo $'#include \n#include \nint main(){struct timespec t; clock_getres(CLOCK_REALTIME, &t); printf("%ld ns", t.tv_nsec);}\n' > /tmp/tmp.c && gcc /tmp/tmp.c -o /tmp/tmp -std=gnu99 -lrt && /tmp/tmp < 1376207015 77881 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 ns < 1376208643 242517 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1376208855 410121 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: E.g. https://github.com/jeremywohl/nacl/blob/master/crypto_verify/16/ref/verify.c , it looks like. < 1376208974 10684 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376209231 31749 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla JOIN :#esoteric < 1376210299 708041 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376210404 452849 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1376214569 78204 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1376215225 615194 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1376215486 323716 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-loud < 1376215486 611424 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 1d 13h 10m 34s ago: my impression of my dreams is that they're a window into something profoundly lacking in logical structure. < 1376216505 66501 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376216864 569171 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376218401 149330 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.141.161 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376219758 103990 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1376219784 76208 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHhjwwSZ9MA < 1376220969 973287 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376221757 20816 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1376222693 384620 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1376223744 685274 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, weird. "lvs" shows a couple of logical volumes, but they don't show up in dmsetup ls. < 1376223818 124522 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Their status is "NOT available". Hm. < 1376223855 393362 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess maybe I need to lvchange -ay them, or something. < 1376224341 353399 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/RWDP that's probably not a good sign. < 1376224374 361325 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :[198553.606614] quiet_error: 2563528 callbacks suppressed that neither. < 1376224404 346408 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm going through a pile of disks I found, to see if there's anything interesting before wiping them/throwing them away.) < 1376224511 113318 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376227289 809630 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Detect disks done, no any drive found." < 1376227424 760572 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376227586 967384 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try ddrescue if you're interested in whether those erroring directories have anything. < 1376227663 654641 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not that interested in this particular case. < 1376227710 70796 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Since they're (probably) just failed disks from earlier RAID setups I've kept for no particular reason.) < 1376229212 742650 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wonder why dd|nc over a gigabit-ethernet link is so slow. (Switched to using an old computer because the rest of the disks were IDE, and my USB dock only does SATA.) < 1376229275 891545 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, the old box only has a 100BaseT network chip in it. Well, that explains it. < 1376229389 342525 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's doing 93.3 Mbps.) < 1376229554 649411 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should've done the snooping on the computer in question, locally, instead of doing this copying stuff; it's going to take like four hours to copy this 160G disk image over. < 1376229599 784187 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Compress it? < 1376229676 895958 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That could be worth the effort for the next partition. (Don't want to stop this current operation.) < 1376229694 914434 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wonder if just dd | gzip | nc ... nc | gzip > file will work. < 1376229714 454416 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :You probably want gzip -d on the other end; other than that it should. < 1376229744 356237 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Make sure that gzip isn't too slow, though. < 1376229849 505580 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's that fast-but-okay compression thing, lzo? < 1376229857 424230 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's one, yes. < 1376229865 655847 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The command-line program is called lzop. < 1376229883 863086 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Will try that out, then. < 1376229927 455567 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd also try restarting the dd if it allowed a "skip=" argument in bytes instead of just as a multiple of ibs/bs. < 1376229956 669135 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : skip_bytes < 1376229958 347464 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : treat 'skip=N' as a byte count (iflag only) < 1376229979 73770 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been looking for that for *years*! Is that a new thing? < 1376230014 281352 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's at the very end of the flags list, I think it might be. < 1376230014 851680 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems like the kind of thing that tends to be GNU-only, but I don't know how new it is. < 1376230030 541194 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :dd: add 'skip_bytes' and 'count_bytes' operands Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2012 13:25:46 +0100 < 1376230038 895461 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, new or not, very nice. < 1376230110 736542 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's been suggested at least as early as 2008, when this was given as a workaround (evidently found in 'info dd'): (dd bs=1 skip=123456 count=0 && dd bs=8192) < 1376230138 705964 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, I've just been using bs=1 skip=N directly and lived with the speed. < 1376230182 781497 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Author: Jim Meyering < 1376230184 326745 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Date: Sat Dec 2 08:12:56 2000 +0000 < 1376230186 356801 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : Undo most of the changes since 2000-11-24, since we've < 1376230188 360501 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : documented a standard way to do it. < 1376230190 835480 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : (skip_bytes, seek_bytes): Remove. < 1376230190 835689 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1376230261 424159 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Author: Jérémy Compostella < 1376230263 299744 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Date: Sat Feb 4 15:25:54 2012 +0100 < 1376230265 343222 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : dd: add count_bytes, skip_bytes and seek_bytes flags < 1376230271 924827 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh. < 1376230277 234859 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"dd: invalid input flag: `skip_bytes'" aw, dang. < 1376230280 242128 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Author: Jim Meyering < 1376230281 383679 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Date: Sat Nov 25 08:54:58 2000 +0000 < 1376230283 382517 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : remove bskip < 1376230285 339205 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : adapt skip to skip either by bytes or by blocks < 1376230315 727618 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :So originally added 2000-11-25, then removed a week later with the documented workaround, and then reädded 2012-02-04. < 1376230325 656252 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if they just forgot that they didn't intend to add it. < 1376230468 578196 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, that's GNU coreutils 8.16 or newer, then. < 1376230479 396196 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :root@dumper:~# dd --version < 1376230479 663040 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :dd (coreutils) 8.13 < 1376230492 293688 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should've deboostrap jessie'd instead of debootstrap wheezy'ing. < 1376230505 337756 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really know why I went with wheezy anyway. < 1376230688 6423 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gads, coreutils' configure is incredibly long. < 1376230700 303653 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : stat no longer reports a negative file size as a huge positive number. < 1376230702 375876 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : [bug present since 'stat' was introduced in fileutils-4.1.9] < 1376230702 650258 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose it makes sense it tests every single thing known to man, but anyway. < 1376230705 875402 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :A negative file size? < 1376230826 239777 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"core/coreutils-8.21/src/dd if=/dev/sda1 bs=32M skip=15639748608 iflag=skip_bytes | lzop | nc 10.102.76.2 14141" yay < 1376230843 65608 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hooray < 1376230888 15719 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1376230907 46898 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Annnd... it does 70 Mbit/s. < 1376230910 157288 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Hooray" indeed. < 1376231028 679014 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1376231044 828254 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Curiously enough, top says 80% CPU idle, so it's not bound by that. < 1376231048 535297 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Weird. < 1376231062 831424 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it a 5-core machine? < 1376231137 487226 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Two. < 1376231197 98806 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was that the speed across the network link or in total < 1376231223 139496 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :In total, looking at the resulting file size. < 1376231235 609447 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bah, I'll just let it copy as it likes. < 1376231247 670846 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is the receiving end CPU-bound? :-P < 1376231399 751716 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It certainly shouldn't. < 1376231416 263436 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1376231431 670480 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :CPU use 13% and it's keeping all four cores at 0.8 GHz (the lowest setting). < 1376231502 820153 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376231532 467951 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now the plain copy is also writing 75 Mbps. The strangest. < 1376231533 237075 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, it could theoretically be IO-bound on the receiving end, but e.g. the RAID resync on this disk was fast as anything. < 1376231581 663109 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it's a brokenish disk then it's of course likely to slow down in certain areas. < 1376231606 276846 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :This one shouldn't (knocking on wood) be broken, it's just the disk that was in the old box before. < 1376231638 201167 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, being old is enough to make it likely, I think. AIUI it can happen a lot even in new disks. < 1376231688 740164 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I *could* try a plain dd-to-null read benchmark, but I'm not sure I care to. < 1376231767 392324 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://static.usenix.org/event/hotos/tech/final_files/Krevat.pdf < 1376231769 410760 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"[U]nder normal operation, disk bandwidth to/from corresponding regions of a set of disks can be expected to vary by 20% or more from the fastest to the slowest." < 1376231805 695025 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, that quote's more about performance between seemingly identical disks. Well, it refers to intradisk variance too. < 1376231836 557582 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd still expect a bit more than 10 MB/s out of it. < 1376231844 478580 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't ever read the smartctl --all output at all. < 1376231950 478932 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The rest of the disks are fortunately going to be smaller. < 1376231979 929017 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Having a lot of reällocated sectors is one indicator, at least. < 1376232082 821919 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :80G, 250G, 2.5G, 120G and 30G. Huh, one's even bigger. < 1376232099 280172 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The big one has "broken @64M" scribbled on top of it. < 1376232109 119731 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric : 5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 100 100 005 Pre-fail Always - 0 < 1376232144 829033 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 is good :-P < 1376232801 107852 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was thinking maybe a filesystem-level copy for the second partition would be smarter, but it's 102G used of 115G in df, so probably not much of a win. < 1376232817 998545 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla JOIN :#esoteric < 1376233201 68575 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376233492 32011 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1376233527 430821 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@64.31.59.246 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376233565 744192 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1376233660 375004 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376233965 493556 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1376233998 94479 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1376234779 203180 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1376234815 355770 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p5B02DEDC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1376234861 99709 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1376234868 532513 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1376234943 26856 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1376235758 880092 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1376236939 7946 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376237927 756430 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1376238017 383765 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre NICK :Nisstyre < 1376238852 106802 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1376239167 308684 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376239596 495948 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1376239682 121831 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1376239738 716599 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was the ZZT game "The Secret of Cannibal Island" and I like the music, so I made a .NSF with more fancy music such as adding chords; it is 2A03+VRC7. It seems like pretty good in my opinion! It is: http://2a03.free.fr/dl.php?file=4151 for binary, http://2a03.free.fr/dl.php?file=4150 for source. < 1376239905 173585 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I cannot find the Wikipedia articles for a free ring; it redirects to something else. < 1376239914 787493 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: try the arxiv maybe < 1376239920 76007 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :or a proper academic library < 1376239928 299000 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :way better than wikipedia < 1376239957 481154 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is a free ring < 1376239958 348108 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it might help, but I wrote this idea of what I thought might be a "free ring" and a "free commutative ring"; do you know any things about free ring? < 1376239976 257366 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, i dont think any one uses the term < 1376240003 812096 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did I write about it correctly though? < 1376240018 354543 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did you write < 1376240076 444473 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :An element of a free ring over a set S is a signed multiset of lists of elements from S. < 1376240096 252985 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1376240104 409374 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that correct? < 1376240118 418740 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that like polynomials in S? < 1376240139 608449 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A bit like that, I think. < 1376240182 562432 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(If it is a free commutative ring, then it should be "of multisets" rather than "of lists".) < 1376240207 820274 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :a set, not a field? < 1376240237 563665 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, a set, not a field, is what I an trying to mean (I don't know what it is called but I thought it might be called a free ring). < 1376240302 517348 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might be callled the ring of polynomials < 1376240362 554911 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polynomial_ring#The_polynomial_ring_in_several_variables no? < 1376240438 385229 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let me see < 1376240444 962412 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Do you happen to know what are these "Xnn" effects I see in some S3M files? < 1376240505 243163 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I think it is panning? < 1376240537 12058 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems to be panning in Impulse Tracker and others. < 1376240548 281139 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The official Scream Tracker help files don't mention X at all. < 1376240583 671612 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It has S8x for setting pan position.) < 1376240586 455523 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :katla: OK, well, "free commutative ring" does seem like it might be what I have defined, although they give a different definition. < 1376240637 876543 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I don't know, then. I have OpenMPT for playing .S3M and so on, so I tried creating a new file and entering a "X" effect and it says it is panning. < 1376240649 129457 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: It's worth checking whether Scream Tracker itself does anything with them. They could be extensions. < 1376240711 792560 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Scream Tracker doesn't support panning except on GUS, though. Schism (which AIUI is an Impulse Tracker clone) does panning with it. < 1376240717 829294 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :katla: (I think their definition probably ends up being equivalent to what I am thinking of, though.) < 1376240727 385471 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess the X values in this file would make sense if it were panning. < 1376240785 807896 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Then perhaps at least in that file, it is supposed to be panning. < 1376241057 987584 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Wikipedia doesn't seem to have anything about "signed multiset", except for the "Free abelian groups are formal sums...they may be seen as signed finite multisets..." paragraph, and this is what I mean by "signed multiset".) < 1376241105 520618 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you using thse free rings for anythin < 1376241159 865391 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think a multimana in Icosahedral RPG makes free commutative ring over the set {w,u,b,r,g}. < 1376241199 668760 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So yes I am using these free rings for something. < 1376241234 559051 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :woah < 1376241279 986514 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is certainly different than other systems. < 1376242308 752436 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Communication of delicious has not been included because to children all confectionery, especially < 1376242311 935881 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :chocolate confectionery, is delicious." < 1376242327 367448 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this marketing report thing about a relaunch of Curly-Wurlys is great and I have no idea why I am reading it < 1376242346 865552 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott TOPIC #esoteric :Communication of deilcious has not been included | Хммм, тхис стуфф реаллы сеемс то ворк | 22nd IOCCC is open: http://ioccc.org/2013/rules.txt | jsvine is doing an esolang survey! https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1OvEsdBioOFcXFAiscO34kctUWKs3dWQs5-ZouXdwy9Q/viewform | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric < 1376242353 48800 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott TOPIC #esoteric :Communication of delicious has not been included | Хммм, тхис стуфф реаллы сеемс то ворк | 22nd IOCCC is open: http://ioccc.org/2013/rules.txt | jsvine is doing an esolang survey! https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1OvEsdBioOFcXFAiscO34kctUWKs3dWQs5-ZouXdwy9Q/viewform | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric < 1376242409 745829 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does Cyrillic script count as an esolang or why is it in the topic < 1376242433 353161 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or is that Greek, whichever < 1376242464 868523 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently it's English < 1376242597 78603 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The language is, but the alphabet used isn't < 1376242612 10298 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree, that is not the English alphabet < 1376242626 846289 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just wondering if there's a point to it < 1376242662 389190 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only one person knows that < 1376242706 480774 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: no < 1376242708 660451 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no point to it < 1376242751 757014 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"These ideas were put into qualitative research in animatic form and exposed to children aged 6–11 < 1376242754 764960 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :years old. Children under 6 were excluded because they are a little too young to use in research." < 1376242757 794282 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :advertising is scary < 1376243005 623204 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just like animal testing, except with children. < 1376244155 244025 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my girlfriend served as an adult control subject for some behavioral research on children < 1376244171 569978 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so like they had her hold a stuffed animal and spin in circles and then try to walk in a straight line, or something < 1376244199 778088 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the stuffed animal is just to make the kids not freak out, but they can't very well omit that in the control! < 1376244210 93802 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: not so much "except" as "in particular" < 1376244213 408031 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would the kind of stuffed animal and the kind of tiles on the floor affect something? < 1376244375 329019 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1376244383 850014 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: what's with the return expression in that code < 1376244451 128436 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: can you get good money for that < 1376244462 509361 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am totally up for being a professional stuffed-animal-holder-and-circle-spinner < 1376244471 588709 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :she did live on psych studies for a year yeah < 1376244505 250153 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, which code < 1376244511 918833 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :can I be a professional stuffed animal holder < 1376244529 209448 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nacl constant time compare < 1376244529 979028 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a control protocol where you don't use people who live off being sociology test subjects < 1376244535 20075 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1376244557 110839 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :just psych studies, not like medical studies where they inject you with things < 1376244575 16146 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: Yes, it might be good idea having such a control protocol to avoid that kind of bias. < 1376244579 456508 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :she did one study at MIT Media Lab that involved collaborating with robots to rescue survivors of an earthquake, or something < 1376244582 440731 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounded pretty fun < 1376244593 819586 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :another one where she had to brush her teeth and open doors with her non-dominant hand for 2 weeks < 1376244598 878824 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which was like a willpower training thing < 1376244652 764342 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I think it always returns -1 differentbits is nonzero. < 1376244657 869556 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Without a branch.) < 1376244658 738706 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :And report how often she lapsed to her dominant hand, or what? < 1376244715 216218 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote <+kmc> my girlfriend served as an adult control subject for some behavioral research on children [...] <+kmc> she did live on psych studies for a year yeah Is there a control protocol where you don't use people who live off being sociology test subjects < 1376244720 50185 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1087) <+kmc> my girlfriend served as an adult control subject for some behavioral research on children [...] <+kmc> she did live on psych studies for a year yeah Is there a control protocol where you don't use people who live off being sociology test subjects < 1376244750 988677 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: no; they had some willpower-testing task before and after the 2 weeks < 1376244762 149847 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah the sample bias is unfortunate < 1376244838 938913 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :remember how a few years back the FCC auctioned off billions of dollars of radio spectrum? that auction was designed according to studies done on my friends in college < 1376244840 676385 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(By nonzero I mean 1-255.) < 1376244861 126678 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :who used the proceeds from the auction games to buy weed and plastic ball pit balls < 1376244913 641542 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want a plastic ball pit < 1376244913 842723 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, what did they study? < 1376244914 542745 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :billions of dollars' worth, i hope < 1376244918 740260 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would they need to design a new kind of auction for that? < 1376244930 16998 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure < 1376244974 701637 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe they could've just redone the auction until they were satisfied with the result < 1376244994 895941 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1376247023 33929 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1376247520 75939 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1376247881 728424 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1376248069 445688 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1376249564 606597 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Disk-dumping news: the 3.5G disk is causing like 30-second delays before BIOS detects them, and now "ata1: link is slow to respond, please be patient (ready=0)" "ata1: SRST failed" errors on boot. < 1376249569 316959 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems: quite flaky. < 1376249603 449456 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try disabling DMA < 1376249653 585900 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"sda: sda1 sda2 < sda5 sda6 >" well, at least it found some partitions there. < 1376249749 118086 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Copying seems to work fine. < 1376249799 258010 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There also seems to be DOS (w/ 4DOS) and Windows for Workgroups 3.11 on it. < 1376249896 880181 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But also a \BOOT directory with GRUB, some kernel, and a couple of what I think are boot floppy images. < 1376249918 278194 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376249950 606794 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, seems that there's been Windows 98 installed with F:\ as the system drive. Curious configuration. < 1376250134 557517 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's also making this clicking sort of noise when I write on it.) < 1376250198 679723 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, Master of Magic. < 1376250206 91773 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And The Incredible Machine 3. < 1376250647 492622 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1376250786 644111 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1376251231 110448 :iamfishhead!~jgoldste@home.pointlesstopology.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1376251332 420663 :iamfishhead!~jgoldste@home.pointlesstopology.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1376252358 273178 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I cannot put the Uselessness RPG stuff in a git repository and it won't help (and because I am working on paper), but maybe it can help if the stuff from the paper can also be put in some wiki; that way all idea can be written and discussed too. < 1376252687 604613 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I fucking hate git repositories right now < 1376252730 914843 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my new school uses one to collect our work and we lose all access rights when the due time is over < 1376252770 922714 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you get this annoying "could not read from remote repository, please check that you have the correct access rights" if you try to git push one second too late < 1376252818 782901 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and every night at 23h42 you can hear screams of despair from every student who got that message < 1376252836 824711 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also cries of victory from those who pushed one second before the deadline < 1376252964 529358 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the perils of shturmovshchina < 1376253068 225339 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also there were those who did the work *not at the last moment* but that's cheating imo < 1376253154 17657 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should switch to something more ancient like CVS < 1376253157 844159 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :that should give you plenty of valid CVS-ate-my-homework excuses < 1376253172 284328 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the nfs ate my work < 1376253179 717631 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(of course it'll occasionally actually do that, but you have backups right?) < 1376253181 583258 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like three times a day every day of the first two weeks < 1376253191 427999 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes I did have backup < 1376253201 901166 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :both via the git and in other folders on the machine < 1376253212 177273 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :THE NFS MANAGED TO DESTROY THE BACKUPS < 1376253230 494923 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :somehow it's intelligent and knows which files to make disappear < 1376253292 24587 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also sometimes I'm writing stuff on emacs and it will randomly erase a few lines in the file and replace them with "node 4.6.1 is not responding... node 4.6.1 is alive again" < 1376253323 543996 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems to me that it's not git's fault at all, but rather the fault of NFS. < 1376253339 189193 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :definitely the nfs yes < 1376253436 35267 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1376253614 285068 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1376253623 774810 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: http://sprunge.us/iJRf seems that it's indeed ddrescue time. < 1376253926 736981 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1376253939 336619 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : is there a pattern of binary or trinary digits that stays the same or mostly the same when multiplied by 3^n / 2^m < 1376253989 840395 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone is thinking about the collatz conjecture... < 1376254225 857960 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1376254569 285962 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: That then might mean that git is no good for that purpose. < 1376254608 966025 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the git is good, the nfs is bad < 1376254621 247027 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I suspect they purposefully did nothing to make things better < 1376254640 446813 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Is there such a thing as a "free ring" (as in mathematical)? <-- yes. rings are a variety (essentially, defined by equations) and all varieties have free objects. (commutative rings are also a variety.) < 1376254667 167005 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Is it the one I have defined? < 1376254722 986706 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Day of Zeux as a due time in 24 hours where the time you start the upload (if you use FTP) is the due time instead of when it is finished. That might allow cheating though. My own Z-Comp does something a bit different: You must submit the SHA-1 hash of the file before the deadline. < 1376254775 157182 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yes i think so, as long as the second order multiset (for addition) can have negative number of an element < 1376254854 426893 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes, that is what I meant by a signed multiset < 1376255012 628734 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw fields are _not_ a variety, division by zero messes up the ability to define it by just equations. < 1376255067 117294 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK; I didn't use fields anyways though. < 1376255081 397081 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(e.g. it makes the "obvious" equation x*(1/x) = 1 have an exception) < 1376255728 948564 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1376255944 348886 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1376256361 165647 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376256368 525204 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : I cannot find the Wikipedia articles for a free ring; it redirects to something else. <-- there's a single-sentence definition buried inside the redirected article < 1376256402 749452 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's probably technically correct, if not very illuminating < 1376256449 160982 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :revelation of the day: pedaling a bike requires metabolic work < 1376256459 459215 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1376256540 640498 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: it's actually equivalent to what you said for noncommutative rings, since a free Z-module is really just a signed multiset < 1376256565 480444 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's also the same as a free abelian group) < 1376256632 381476 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and in another sentence in the introduction, it implies that the commutative analogy to a free algebra is a polynomial ring < 1376256731 127393 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: so another way to define a free commutative ring is as a polynomial ring with the generators as variables and Z as the ring of coefficients. i think. < 1376256741 392535 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376256759 200094 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/search?q=path%3Awp-config.php I can't decide if github should turn off search forever, or just auto-break every single fucking dumbass system < 1376256765 870215 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION notes he should not take levofloxacin again.
< 1376256771 417357 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION also hopes that never comes up again.
< 1376256780 499709 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :all of these should be equivalent to the category theoretical definition of a free object in the relevant category, of course. < 1376256818 252188 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also, the left adjoint to the underlying set functor) < 1376257149 421192 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Ah, OK, so I suppose those things would be it too. < 1376257193 291152 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: anyway to prove that your formulation is correct you can note (1) the distributive law allows you to normalize every algebraic expression in a ring to your form (2) assigning suitable integer values to each generator (essentially the same as choosing a homomorphism into the integers) allows you to prove that different multisets cannot represent the same free ring element. (i am assuming the later will work; i haven't actually written it out.) < 1376257312 976389 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or well for (2) you could just note they give different _real_ polynomials, which is also a kind of homomorphism. < 1376257502 11933 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla JOIN :#esoteric < 1376257637 862016 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :crap < 1376257658 930863 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to connect to the wiki for the first time in a month < 1376257678 537220 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can nly remember the firs two characters of my password < 1376257681 581179 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :loads for me < 1376257684 802172 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1376257746 792308 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they had a thing at the school about you being respnsible for anything done with your account - in particular, if someone forgot to lock their session, you were encourage to use it to do bad things < 1376257753 361434 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fsvo bad things < 1376257755 451383 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me guess, you've never registered your email either *evil cackle* < 1376257770 730883 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i took the habit to change my password every three days < 1376257835 105204 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :itt life lessons < 1376257866 658929 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"fuck security" < 1376257923 309580 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah hum bike you have no idea how many people ended up with porn as their desktop background image / browser home page because they didn't lock their session < 1376257951 592343 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p5B02DEDC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 23.0/20130730113002] < 1376257964 801737 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :did someone sue the school to get an end to this madness twh < 1376257968 412218 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or fancy aliases in the terminal < 1376258003 527262 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I sent a ticket to the staff from someone else's account, volunteering to clean every single screen in the school because they were full of fingerprints < 1376258008 964329 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah this mostly seems like a pointless annoyance. < 1376258009 671472 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: i note you've still not commented on my guess about your email twh < 1376258026 281835 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just received a temporary password oerjan < 1376258030 361757 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good, good < 1376258034 571864 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I've got to make up yet another new password < 1376258038 64969 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate passwords < 1376258045 241955 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Y189=\ < 1376258047 424303 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :bam < 1376258054 983326 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1376258057 344545 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks Bike NOW I'VE GOT ONE POSSIBILITY LESS < 1376258065 331892 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 < 1376258085 72982 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :surely you never considered a 6 char password a possibility in the first place twnh < 1376258115 972172 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone please tell me what that new acronym stands for < 1376258125 323465 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would not help < 1376258133 762846 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously < 1376258150 721926 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm you haven't been here in a while i guess < 1376258165 452241 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :28 days I reckon < 1376258166 651640 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's been an explosion of hth use hth < 1376258170 392113 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1376258174 684248 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes I remember the hth days < 1376258175 882591 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :only in oerjanland < 1376258189 592476 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_> < 1376258205 242369 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it may have slightly subsided. < 1376258325 132181 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I may change the name lookup in this program from a simple list to a hash table in a bit similar to how it is implemented in TeX (but using linked lists for resolving hash collisions). Do you think this will be OK? < 1376258366 543131 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :does tex have built in hash tables < 1376258407 454556 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :TeX uses hash tables to lookup control words; they are described in section 256 of the source file. < 1376258468 485771 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Excess Flood < 1376258499 382752 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1376258564 13170 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-66-95.public.wayport.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376258667 292902 :iamfishhead!~jgoldste@home.pointlesstopology.com QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1376258890 184967 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-66-95.public.wayport.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376259039 385990 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-66-95.public.wayport.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376259131 63915 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1376259147 23389 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I should put these things I wrote on this paper for the Uselessness RPG 1 into some wiki as well; do you have some wiki and section of wiki for putting it in to, which would be suitable for this purpose? < 1376259187 473713 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1376259486 297446 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-66-95.public.wayport.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1376259509 823742 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-66-95.public.wayport.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376259538 86217 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-66-95.public.wayport.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376259616 445290 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-66-95.public.wayport.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376259716 652186 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1376260032 805172 :btiffin!~btiffin@CPE002369b7648c-CM0014e88ec3b0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1376260269 205084 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1376260278 787401 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1376260311 985429 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: so are you electrocuted now < 1376260586 440949 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1376260590 885494 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh is this re my tweet < 1376260620 725759 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i just destroyed 10cm of my LED strip < 1376260630 260258 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :aww/heh < 1376260641 865831 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :out of 20m total, so not a big deal < 1376260646 296098 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1376260653 856447 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you blow up one controller you can just solder onto the next one along < 1376260691 746321 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_ < 1376261073 546547 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre NICK :Nisstyre < 1376261452 552042 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are you trying to make? < 1376262192 320020 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-66-95.public.wayport.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376262466 768672 :btiffin!~btiffin@CPE002369b7648c-CM0014e88ec3b0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PART :#esoteric < 1376262648 993043 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-66-95.public.wayport.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376263857 964267 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376264117 848945 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376265129 417697 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wrong-way_concurrency < 1376265205 702679 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes you think. < 1376265225 696922 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-66-95.public.wayport.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376265296 569737 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: you're at wsu now? < 1376265389 944567 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1376265403 134283 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :as foretold in the prophecy < 1376265448 225384 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :at pullman? < 1376265469 404488 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1376265488 469804 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo wrong end of washington < 1376265539 672505 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving