00:00:16 sure that's not the point 00:00:16 ;) 00:01:57 not the point? 00:02:08 works enough to redirect to .co.uk here 00:02:15 though that may be cached at various levels 00:03:54 i mean the point of yelling at them 00:04:09 ? 00:04:33 Just remember that they own your life and soul, so be polite and courteous. 00:05:53 it wasn't a very well thought out idea okay 00:08:54 `quote 367 00:08:54 counterpoint: http://www.isgoogledown.com/ 00:08:59 oops 00:13:03 http://www.isisgoogledowndown.com/ 00:15:01 @ask roujo cat sanity >> Roujo <-- how can your cat possibly be much saner than you twh 00:15:01 Consider it noted. 00:16:42 00:17:10 @tell Roujo Collateral damage be damned <-- but but think of all the things you just made flammable! 00:17:10 Consider it noted. 00:17:45 ion: that seems to be down hth 00:21:08 @tell boily I like to lean toothpicks. <-- we can always need more /// programmers twh 00:21:08 Consider it noted. 00:21:16 oerjan: Perhaps it’s just your computer, you should check on http://isisisgoogledowndowndown.com/ 00:21:50 ion: yeah must be my computer, that site looks down too 00:23:35 apropos flammable, the local paper factory's storage caught fire yesterday morning. and afaict a couple hours ago, it's still smoking. 00:24:52 yikes 00:25:29 i read in the newspaper they expected it would take several days to put out completely 00:26:21 also that the building had no fire alarm, because no one had required it. 00:26:50 in a paper factory? 00:26:51 despite being next to a gas tank. 00:27:10 wow this sounds pretty awesome. 00:27:18 Bike: well other buildings may have had alarms. 00:28:26 several days is bad, but not as bad as the underground coal fires that have been burning for decades 00:28:39 indeed 00:29:04 What does twh even mean =P 00:29:11 that would help hth 00:29:29 ... 00:29:34 Okay =P 00:29:48 Also, nothing is now flammable, since nothing exists anymore 00:29:50 i didn't know my okays could infect through my hths 00:30:09 I was saying okay since before you were born, okay? 00:30:16 OKAU 00:30:20 OKAU? 00:30:39 it was a typo that under the circumstances seemed wrong to correct 00:30:55 Okay 00:30:59 -!- Sgeo has joined. 00:31:03 <3 00:31:59 <4 00:32:19 <^v> <5 00:32:56 help 00:33:40 <^v> pleh 00:33:42 50bcb65c-06cc-11e3-989a-3c970e8fdb11 00:34:07 im still voiced 00:34:27 -!- ChanServ has set channel mode: -v kmc. 00:44:16 -!- carado_ has changed nick to carado. 00:44:42 fd74c314-7298-471e-8fae-96e9d5557b59 00:45:32 I would join the fun and spell out random numbers, but I'm afraid yours actually mean something 00:45:51 they're social security numbers 00:46:19 <^v> but 00:46:34 <^v> my SSN has more than 9 digits 00:46:42 <^v> and it isnt hex 00:46:44 so do theirs 00:52:17 maybe your social security number isn't in hex, but mine is an entirely valid hexadecimal number 01:31:31 -!- Koen_ has quit (Quit: Koen_). 01:39:38 My weekend is going to consist of debugging a page that makes IE8 crash and untangling a mess of cookies interfering with each other on similar domains 01:39:41 Please shoot me now. 01:47:52 -!- sacje has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 01:50:02 you're allowed to forgo the magic word in these circumstances Sgeo 01:56:54 The string www holds no relevance to whether or not a cookie gets sent, right? a.foobar.com is the same as www.foobar.com in terms of whether or not it would read or could set a .foobar.com cookie? 01:57:27 shouldn't you call that a third-level domain name or w/e 02:02:05 (∞,n)-level domain name 02:02:20 sound's like abstract nonsense..................... 02:03:42 -!- KingOfKarlsruhe has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 23.0/20130730113002]). 02:09:34 -!- sacje has joined. 02:10:13 Cookie monoid 02:20:18 -!- iamfishhead has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 02:23:10 Sgeo: why? 02:23:21 Why the question about www? 02:23:45 Because production (www) is behaving differently from other environments 02:23:53 no, why is tihs your weekend 02:24:14 Product wants to look at what we have on Monday and we're launching Wednesday 02:24:28 are you getting paid extra to work all weekend? 02:24:50 I don't think so. I haven't really been asking to get paid extra 02:25:12 Sgeo: iirc browsers need to guess whether a.foobar.com has authority over foobar.com itself, and use a ridiculously complicated system for this hth 02:25:47 i vaguely think there was a database of domains evolved 02:26:12 and possibly no consistency between browsers 02:26:26 Fuck cookies. 02:26:46 that's the spirit. 02:27:02 demand a cookie bonus. which means money for working with cookies, not cookies 02:27:47 -!- dessos has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 02:27:55 mind you i only recall this from some blog post i once read about how the system was messed up, i've never written a cookie handling webpage in my life. i think. 02:30:55 i understand that americans are frequently in the situation that there is no law actually requiring them to be paid extra for overtime and stuff, poor souls. 02:30:58 -!- dessos has joined. 02:31:09 I think legally I should be getting extra 02:31:14 I just never really forcefully asked 02:31:19 well maybe you should 02:31:33 I am asking for my raise which I'm supposed to have 02:31:54 They're saying I should have asked sooner when I noticed it didn't go through because retropay is going to cause them headaches 02:32:20 i a guessing that if you exude as much confidence in real life as you do on the channel, you are going to be screwed out of every cent possible hth 02:32:23 *i am 02:33:12 well, probably you should have, but no use crying over spilt milk 02:33:37 wait why did i allow myself into cynical mode. 02:34:03 man it's been a while since i heard that saying 02:34:18 oerjan: there's the Public Suffix List 02:34:38 What if it's milk that reacts with saltwater in such a way as to... do something 02:34:43 I think most tech workers are exempt from overtime laws 02:34:46 also what 02:34:57 how can you be exempt from overtime laws 02:35:09 is it a contractual thing or are the laws just like "ps. fuck tech workers" 02:35:10 I'm a contractor currently 02:35:18 lots of kinds of workers are exempt 02:35:22 look up "exempt worker", it's a thing 02:35:27 I dunno how it works in .uk 02:35:27 I should reread the contract 02:36:25 often if you get a salary instead of hourly pay that makes you exempt 02:36:51 I currently get hourly pay, but do want to become a full-time employee which I think would be salaried 02:38:16 What, you get hourly pay and the hours in the weekend just don't count? 02:38:49 you gotta fight for your right to party 02:39:09 shachaf: no, I just... haven't been bothering to put them in 02:40:57 the capitalist's wet dream, a worker who can't be bothered to ask for pay 02:41:47 no you should be motivated by PASSION and the fact that your employer is CHANGING THE WORLD and if you ask for more pay it's a sign that you're insufficiently devoted to the cause 02:42:15 besides programmers don't like money anyway, we are magic children who just want free snacks and a pool table in the office 02:42:59 afk tho 02:43:14 "brb ranting at girlfriend about hiring practices" 02:43:19 haha 02:43:23 no just eating sausages 02:46:34 if you know what i mean 02:46:43 already made that joke!! 02:46:48 (he means ranting at the sausages about hiring practices) 02:46:50 or rather kind of implied that i would make that joke 02:47:20 are sausages made from capitalist pigs 02:47:28 i guess 02:48:11 oh, wait, it's like the music video for "Itsu". 02:48:12 I got this. 02:53:52 -!- copumpkin has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 02:54:21 -!- copumpkin has joined. 02:55:04 Any of you guys got experience with WRT54G-compatible custom firmware? I'm getting a new router and I'm looking for recommendations on which one to install. 02:56:23 -!- ^v has changed nick to TheBombMaker. 02:56:52 -!- TheBombMaker has changed nick to Guest44945. 02:57:01 -!- Guest44945 has changed nick to ^v. 03:06:15 -!- ^v has changed nick to IMakeBombsInTPT. 03:07:43 I have OpenWrt on one. 03:10:36 Someone replied to a comment I made 5 years ago 03:10:41 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 03:11:29 -!- augur has joined. 03:16:03 -!- IMakeBombsInTPT has changed nick to ^v. 03:19:55 ion: How's OpenWrt's user interface these days? It's been a few years since I last looked at it. 03:20:33 I haven’t really done much with it. I don’t even remember if i used the web UI when setting it up. 03:22:05 Ah, okay. 03:22:33 I've been using Tomato USB since I like being able to point and click, but it unfortunately hasn't been updated for a while. 03:28:01 <^v> I've been using Potato USB since I like being able to point and click, but it unfortunately hasn't been updated for a while. 03:30:02 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 03:46:01 oookay 03:50:48 i say tomato, you say potato, let's call the whole thing a bit off 04:00:15 hairy nightshade is also pretty pretty 04:00:33 I wonder if Bonzi Buddy is still downloadable from somewhere 04:01:16 " In 1999, the software used a green parrot called Peedy licensed from Microsoft, and in later versions, Bonzi Software made their own fictional character, a purple gorilla." 04:01:21 I have not heard of Peedy before now 04:02:53 ditto 04:03:10 i remember Peedy!! 04:03:15 i made some scripts for him in Visual Basic 04:03:39 I wonder if Bonzi Buddy would work in WINE 04:03:49 Or if I'll end up downloading a Windows VM 04:03:53 http://www.modern.ie/en-us 04:03:54 >.> 04:05:56 -!- coppro has joined. 04:17:47 http://kurlander.net/DJ/Videos/BillGMITComicChatVideo.shtml 04:20:26 * pikhq spit takes 04:20:30 Google went down? 04:20:35 Google literally went down today? 04:21:10 yes 04:23:35 <^v> yep 04:23:37 <^v> for a couple mins 04:23:48 <^v> i was googling at the time 04:23:57 <^v> porn ofc 04:23:58 On a purely unrelated note, tendonitis sucks. 04:25:53 :/ 04:26:45 This wireless mouse was an amazingly good purchase. 04:29:44 http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=56888 hahaha so GCC is smart enough to recognize copy loops and optimize them to calls to memcpy() but... it will do this even inside your implementation of memcpy() 04:30:21 Yup, that was a fun one. 04:30:21 :-D 04:37:51 -!- nooodl has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 04:42:26 -!- aloril has quit (Read error: Operation timed out). 04:49:30 help there's a glider drawn on the blackboard in my house 04:49:36 is this ``hacker culture'' 04:51:00 I'd move out 04:51:04 Friend of mine uses a glider as his avatar. Though he uses a different frame in the cycle, because fuck ESR. 04:51:52 kmc: maybe the glider is being imagined as situated on the traditional GoL torus, and it's just a bit of pointless topology 04:52:32 i'm sorry there's no glossing over it 04:52:36 you've got nerds 04:54:48 no need to panic unless the glider regularly evolves hth 04:58:17 -!- aloril has joined. 05:07:23 put up gosper's glider gun 05:08:27 I never metacatacryst 05:08:28 just draw the entirety of a universal constructor 05:09:00 put up the set of wang tiles that simulate a turing machine 05:13:10 good ideas all 05:14:01 my joke is underappreciated :( 05:14:25 i like it! 05:14:38 ty 05:15:04 elliott: but it clearly has points hth 05:15:20 oerjan: are you sure you get my joke?! it's very good! 05:15:32 in that case, no. 05:15:40 05:16:04 http://pointlesstopology.com/ 05:16:13 (the joke is kmc lives there.) 05:16:17 the intended burn is an impliccation that the joke is actually not good, but if you think about it the brune would have to be that oerjan doesn't get the joke which he admits is very good 05:16:34 anyway i've just stepped it one generation 05:16:43 good move 05:16:45 you're part of the problem, kmc 05:16:49 de brune indices 05:16:57 * oerjan removes the air from Bike's wheels 05:16:58 clearly the problem is kmc not using hashlife. 05:17:05 wow rude 05:17:05 [drugz joke] 05:18:07 i wasn't even think of that 05:18:10 elliott: your jokes are too obscure hth 05:18:24 "Installation completed before it could be canceled." 05:18:27 (Installing Chrome) 05:18:29 oh no 05:19:54 don't worry elliott i'll get your joke next time you make it 05:20:06 Sgeo: so how's that bonzi buddy going 05:20:17 Not as fun as I remember 05:21:45 i dhing dhad bonzi buddy iz juzd sgheming 05:23:02 * oerjan goes to force further puns into submission. and to make some food. 05:23:33 http://oi40.tinypic.com/25085ko.jpg i got this dialog from Golly while trying to open a file 05:23:52 it wants to make sure you agree 05:24:12 What fun can I have with an XP VM? 05:24:17 Maybe a deltree? 05:24:22 perverted fun 05:24:36 bah "Deltree isn't present in Windows NT-based operating systems, including Windows NT, Windows 2000, Windows XP, Windows Server, Windows Vista and Windows 7." 05:26:44 Might be fun to delete the filesystem out from under the OS's nose with another virtual OS 05:36:20 -!- sacje has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds). 05:36:49 -!- sacje has joined. 05:40:18 -!- copumpkin has quit (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…). 05:40:35 -!- copumpkin has joined. 05:41:11 when I first installed Linux I somehow managed to have the Linux partition occupy the second half of the drive and the Windows partition occupy the first and second halves of the drive 05:42:10 That's pretty easy to do with the partition table, but how'd you get a partition table editor to do that? 05:43:43 kmc: I don’t see the problem. You got 50 % more disk space for free. 05:45:12 pikhq: I don't know... 05:45:37 anyway it meant Windows crashed frequently, which meant I learned more about how to do things in Linux, so it was probably a good thing 05:45:53 sudo rm -rf / --no-preserve-root on Xubuntu is great 05:46:18 I remember the time when I tried to get the MBR to run GRUB rather than the Windows bootloader. 05:46:47 I reasoned "GRUB is on /dev/hda4, so I should just be able to dd if=/dev/hda4 of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1" 05:47:08 But I made sure to put a backup of the old bootloader in my home directory first, so if anything went wrong I could just boot from a live CD and put it back. 05:47:12 s/bootloader/MBR/ 05:47:43 ENGLISH 05:48:21 Remember when “hda”? 05:48:22 It was a lot of trouble to get that working again... 05:48:29 ion: like, totally, man 05:48:46 i remember when i tried to set up slackware and got confused by the manual using "hda" repeatedly. 05:49:33 http://imgur.com/3xmYoLh,7li30Mt,YM4Jwgv,cHWlrlx 05:50:07 shachaf: why was it trouble? oh because you blew away the partition table? 05:50:12 Yep. 05:50:20 So I couldn't mount my home directory and get the old MBR back. 05:50:26 I think it would work with some number less than 512, and some values of "work" which might mean "break for other reasons" 05:50:28 sgeo: Nice. I haven’t seen that icon Trash got for a while. 05:50:38 parted has a feature that will look for fs magic and rebuild your partition table based on that 05:50:47 448 or so? 05:52:39 ⌷⌷⌷⌷⌷⌷⌷⌷⌷⌷⌷⌷⌷⌷⌷⌷⌷⌷⌷⌷⌷⌷ 05:53:06 sounds right 05:53:08 what are those ion 05:53:25 kmc: Oh, your font can’t display them? They are awesome. 05:53:51 my font is great at them 05:53:59 -!- Bike has quit (Quit: u). 05:54:15 i blame screen 05:54:19 Bike: no u 05:54:38 kmc: The joke is that they're all 2337 APL FUNCTIONAL SYMBOL SQUISH QUAD [⌷] 05:55:19 then why does the fifth one have some artifact at the bottom 05:55:23 My question is, why does a dying OS display those? 05:55:31 kmc: http://imgur.com/3xmYoLh,7li30Mt,YM4Jwgv,cHWlrlx#2 05:55:46 sgeo: It can’t load the font and the font renderer uses that as a fallback. 05:56:02 So how did the second image manage to have a font to display a part of that error? 05:56:13 That font was already loaded by the process. 05:56:34 when did imgur urls get crazy 05:56:49 kmc: that's a five images in one url 05:56:52 Haven’t ad-hoc galleries always been like that? 05:56:59 oh 05:57:08 I didn't know that 05:57:57 They used to be slightly different. 05:58:01 -!- madbr has joined. 05:58:04 Without the #2 and the whole JavaScript bit. 06:00:45 -!- aloril has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 06:01:30 -!- Bike has joined. 06:03:14 -!- GreaseMonkey has quit (Quit: The Other Game). 06:11:19 "14) Any C source that fails to compile because of lines with trailing 06:11:19 control-M's (i.e., lines with a tailing octet 015) will be rejected. 06:11:20 " 06:11:43 does that mean only files UNIX end of lines are accepted? 06:13:58 -!- aloril has joined. 06:25:56 "Any C source that fails to compile because of unescaped octets with 06:25:56 | the high bit set (octet value >= 128) will be rejected. 06:25:58 " 06:26:39 There's compilers that care? 06:27:00 is this for ioccc 06:27:06 madbr: i'd assume it means you cannot expect C source with ^M to compile on OS'es that don't use them 06:27:16 oh maybe that 06:28:59 yeah it's ioccc 06:29:31 they've gotten used to some crazy shit, huh 06:30:59 oerjan : kindof curious about what kind of compiler would fit that description 06:32:16 pretty sure gcc doesn't choke on crlf when run from linux 06:32:26 except maybe in the makefile, can't remember 06:32:54 or maybe it was in bash scripts 06:35:30 http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2013/08/oregon-gop-art-robinson-nuclear-waste-airplanes Finally, someone with a plan. 06:36:59 "Alas, this would be against the law." 06:38:46 alas 06:40:15 gop art is like pop art, except crazier, right? 06:45:52 http://translate.google.fi/#fi/en/alas 06:47:53 valitettavasti! 06:49:30 Bike: also he's an alum of my school, damnit 06:49:57 kmc: have you checked your sanity lately? 06:50:12 not sure how to answer that question really 06:50:17 if I am insane then my sanity check may not count 06:51:33 kmc: lol, well he probably paid his way through or whatever 06:52:18 shrug 06:52:29 or he's smart and good at chemistry or whatever and also completely crazy 06:52:32 not unheard-of 06:52:59 i s'pose 06:54:51 -!- ^v has changed nick to ^\. 06:55:02 -!- ^\ has changed nick to ^. 06:55:05 i don't really think people paid their way through 06:55:09 -!- ^ has changed nick to d. 06:55:10 -!- d has changed nick to e. 06:55:21 -!- e has changed nick to h. 06:55:28 if you wanted to do that you might want to pick a school that people have heard of (and not one that sounds like refrigerator repair school) 06:55:51 -!- h has changed nick to Guest34082. 06:57:29 university of cali sounds like a fridge repair school? 06:57:43 Caltech 06:57:55 often (including by that article) misspelled Cal Tech 06:58:19 Serge Lang was an AIDS denialist too 06:58:41 oh and also a Caltech alum 06:58:47 -!- Guest34082 has changed nick to ^v. 07:00:56 -!- ^v has quit (Quit: Leaving). 07:03:34 a lot of people confuse it with Cal Poly 07:06:06 shachaf: I finished reading the Smullyan book 07:07:20 kmc: is that a relationshipz joke 07:09:02 kmc: was the book as you expected 07:10:38 what this mean expected 07:11:02 shachaf: it wasn't such a joke but it did occur to me as I wrote it 07:13:47 there weren't a lot of complicated relationship-arrangements at Caltech (that I knew of) because it was mostly straight guys 07:13:55 of course it's possible I just wasn't invited 07:14:08 shachaf: I think it was as expected, yes 07:14:15 given that I'd already read "Is God a Taoist?" 07:14:21 what do you think of the book shachaf 07:14:56 i thought it was delightful when i read it maybe 5 years ago 07:15:02 Sgeo: did you send me a NOTICE earlier? i'm just confused by things my client displays 07:15:14 it's fairly delightful yes 07:15:47 kmc: yes I did 07:15:53 parts were both delightful and aggravating at the same time which is a good trick I guess 07:16:06 aggravating? 07:16:07 it seems like the number of non-straight males and the number of women are correlated in university departments 07:16:32 CS and engineering more generally is well known for its ratios. 07:16:33 shachaf: like, playing a lot of games with words to evade saying anything meaningful 07:17:17 Gracenotes: I don't actually know about the percentage of non-straight guys in CS -- is it significantly different from overall population? 07:17:22 of course definitions can be tricky 07:17:47 different, perhaps not significantly? 07:18:06 shachaf: of course that kind of thing is par for the course with taoist and zen stuff 07:18:09 but i dunno 07:18:44 some of it was a bit "communicating poorly and then acting smug when misunderstood" 07:18:50 (on the part of one party in a dialogue) 07:19:37 also I can't really get on board with the glib anti-morality but that's only sort of one view on it, and at other times he seems to be a utilitarian who just dislikes moralists and wants people to be good intrinsically, which is fine 07:19:43 -!- Taneb has joined. 07:19:50 definitely the part that made me think the most was the stuff about doing good out of obligation vs. naturally 07:20:14 but I also feel like my inner moralist hardass has pushed me towards better actions gradually 07:20:17 but how would I know really 07:21:30 hmm 07:21:36 is there philosophy on the general notion of agency in life? 07:21:41 I would say doing good out of obligation is still good, because you can ignore most obligations 07:21:48 With enough willpower 07:22:16 not in a moral context, but action through inaction, etc. 07:22:16 -!- augur has joined. 07:22:29 -!- augur has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 07:22:49 -!- augur has joined. 07:22:59 Gracenotes: in this book? a bit 07:23:06 in general I'm sure much has been written on the subject 07:23:39 (The book in question is _The Tao is Silent_ by Raymond Smullyan, by the way) 07:23:47 anyway it was worth reading for sure 07:24:35 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: leaving). 07:24:45 are you interested in reading another book of his 07:24:46 -!- conehead has quit (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.). 07:24:54 I'm upset by his last name 07:26:46 why 07:27:11 has unfortunate phonetic character 07:27:20 -!- Nisstyre has quit (Quit: Leaving). 07:31:24 -!- aloril has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 07:39:15 a thing that turns ascii diagrams into bitmap graphics http://ditaa.sourceforge.net/ 07:42:38 that's really cool 07:44:57 -!- aloril has joined. 07:55:46 -!- doesthiswork has quit (Quit: Leaving.). 08:07:48 -!- Taneb has quit (Quit: Leaving). 08:09:14 kmc: is there an asymmetric cryptography thing where they keys are "symmetrical" 08:09:33 i.e. knowing one lets you encrypt (or sign) things for the other to decrypt (or verify), but you can't derive one key from the other 08:10:58 maybe you could do that with RSA if you pick a random e instead of using 3 or whatever 08:11:13 sounds dangerous tho 08:12:28 * kmc -> afk tho 08:12:50 -!- lambdabot has quit (Quit: requested). 08:16:11 I think I was under the impression that normal public-private key crypto worked like that 08:17:45 -!- lambdabot has joined. 08:17:51 -!- sacje has quit (Quit: sacje). 08:19:06 -!- copumpkin has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 08:19:35 -!- copumpkin has joined. 08:41:24 -!- carado_ has joined. 08:41:33 -!- carado_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 08:47:46 -!- carado has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 08:55:01 -!- mnoqy has quit (Quit: hello). 09:09:38 -!- madbr has quit (Quit: Radiateur). 09:33:11 -!- Taneb has joined. 09:50:34 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 09:51:29 -!- augur has joined. 09:57:04 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 09:58:41 -!- augur has joined. 10:02:37 Sgeo: it is true that RSA uses the same core mathematical operation for all of encryption, decryption, signing, verification 10:03:35 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 10:03:37 but this is not true of all public-key algorithms 10:03:54 and the stuff you need to go from "core mathematical operation" to "secure cryptosystem" is different for each function 10:04:58 and generally it's easy to derive one key from the other, because the encryption/signing exponent will be fixed to 3 or 65537 10:05:16 and also Sgeo is probably asleep because it's like 5 AM there 10:05:33 -!- augur has joined. 10:31:24 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 10:32:32 -!- lambdabot has quit (Quit: requested). 10:36:44 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 10:36:49 -!- lambdabot has joined. 10:37:01 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 10:47:48 -!- AnotherTest has left. 11:03:51 -!- augur has joined. 11:04:10 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 11:12:47 -!- yorick has joined. 11:17:55 -!- Koen_ has joined. 11:18:49 -!- CADD has joined. 11:24:41 -!- CADD has quit (Quit: Lost terminal). 11:25:07 -!- CADD has joined. 11:28:29 -!- augur has joined. 11:33:26 -!- Taneb has quit (Quit: Leaving). 12:11:01 -!- copumpkin has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 12:11:30 -!- copumpkin has joined. 12:18:59 -!- lambdabot has quit (Quit: requested). 12:24:04 -!- lambdabot has joined. 12:28:04 -!- asie has joined. 12:28:09 hi, asiekierka here 12:28:13 wow, i haven't been here for ages 12:28:58 * Fiora waves? 12:29:29 hi there 12:37:36 hey asie 12:37:43 elliott was asking after you just the other day 12:38:21 what 12:38:33 what 12:40:56 Phantom_Hoover: what 12:41:19 what 12:42:19 what? 12:44:36 what?? 12:45:09 fungot: can you tell us what? 12:45:09 olsner: everyone says, 12:45:35 fungot: so I've noticed... maybe a better question is why? 12:45:35 olsner: use these words as clues and go first! meet at the real world, just like you may think i'm a litte too uptight? 12:46:05 ^style 12:46:05 Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7* fisher fungot homestuck ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube 12:46:29 ^style fungot 12:46:29 Selected style: fungot (What I've said myself) 12:46:41 -!- MindlessDrone has joined. 13:19:00 -!- carado has joined. 13:19:27 -!- yorick has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds). 13:22:20 -!- asie has quit (Quit: asie). 13:48:17 -!- CADD has quit (Read error: Operation timed out). 13:49:07 -!- clog has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 13:49:19 -!- CADD has joined. 13:52:09 -!- nooodl has joined. 13:55:16 -!- CADD has quit (Quit: Lost terminal). 13:58:10 -!- asie has joined. 14:12:34 -!- asie has quit (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. 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I get something vaguely okay-looking as reply -- MethodReturn {methodReturnSerial = Serial 2, methodReturnSender = Just (BusName ":1.64"), methodReturnDestination = Just (BusName ":1.86"), methodReturnBody = [Variant 1]} -- but nothing happens. 17:08:42 -!- Nisstyre-laptop has joined. 17:11:47 Hum. Apparently giving a replaces_id of an old notification does not open a new one, unlike what I thought. 17:17:34 I don't know how I'm supposed to do a "replace existing notification or create new" thing; I'd track it manually, but I can't know when the notification gets closed. 17:18:06 (I could force-close the old one when displaying a new one, but that'd defeat the purpose of flicker-free updating of an existing one.) 17:30:18 -!- conehead has joined. 17:39:30 -!- aloril has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 17:41:44 -!- carado_ has joined. 17:43:58 -!- carado has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 17:47:51 -!- carado_ has changed nick to carado. 17:49:10 -!- clog has joined. 17:52:53 -!- aloril has joined. 17:57:43 -!- Bike has joined. 18:01:57 -!- copumpkin has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 18:02:27 -!- copumpkin has joined. 18:03:41 -!- Bike_ has joined. 18:03:50 -!- Bike has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 18:04:13 PORKCHOP SANDWICHES! 18:07:49 really? I don't think I've had that 18:28:02 -!- Bike_ has changed nick to Bike. 18:28:25 -!- Taneb has quit (Quit: Leaving). 18:38:49 -!- doesthiswork has joined. 19:00:08 -!- ^v has joined. 19:07:44 -!- CADD has joined. 19:12:45 The license for the Windows VMs confuses me (not that I care for personal use, but I do care for work use) 19:12:47 "Youmayusethesoftwarefortestingpurposesonly.Youmaynotusethesoftwarefor 19:12:47 commercialpurposes.Y" 19:13:10 But if I use it at work, I'm using it for testing purposes and commercial purposes 19:13:22 My testing with the software serves a commercial purpose 19:13:30 it clearly say "for testing purposes /only" 19:13:38 *says 19:13:56 comercial purpose + testing purpose != testing purpose only 19:13:59 but use it anyway 19:15:02 Ugh kind of sucks that can't use MSN browser without subscription 19:15:04 Used to be able to 19:18:36 it is generally advisable to stay a way from windows in my opinion 19:38:27 -!- ^v has changed nick to \^. 19:41:06 what is a commercial purpose generally 19:43:02 -!- asie has quit (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. 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ZZZzzz...). 20:37:04 Commercial purpose: using it in a commerciakl 20:37:07 commercial* 20:52:00 Worth1000 is closing :( 21:00:36 -!- nooodl_ has joined. 21:03:28 -!- nooodl has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 21:03:31 -!- zzo38 has joined. 21:04:54 -!- asie has joined. 21:08:00 ?messages-loud 21:08:00 You don't have any messages 21:10:24 -!- asie has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 21:36:12 ?messages-loud 21:36:12 You don't have any messages 21:36:14 WELL CRAP 21:36:20 ?messages-loud 21:36:20 You don't have any messages 21:36:26 @tell zzo38 Oh hai 21:36:26 Consider it noted. 21:36:27 ;_; 21:36:33 @tell Phantom_Hoover Oh hai 21:36:33