> 1376923014 760159 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376923017 180802 :glogbot!dlopen@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric > 1376923018 850665 JOIN :#esoteric > 1376923019 367013 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376923021 851297 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wooooooooooo < 1376923027 721515 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`recursion < 1376923034 108088 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: recursion: not found < 1376923039 915221 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat cat < 1376923041 162712 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: cat: No such file or directory < 1376923043 106352 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat dog < 1376923044 398074 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1376923049 150980 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awww < 1376923093 429187 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric < 1376923109 751497 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: t'es soit Linteau, Mousehunt, Rouillard ou Vermette. < 1376923119 876444 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Regarde mon nom et guesse =P < 1376923129 909626 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :... Mousehunt? =P < 1376923141 600496 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh, pas de ma faute! c'est dans la liste! < 1376923147 874966 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mais Rouillard. < 1376923156 853121 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lol < 1376923188 905241 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks like Cloj made an alternate account when he was banned from Mousehunt =P < 1376923402 541482 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I figured that there couldn't be THAT many Boilys with a passion for boardgames =P < 1376923651 411741 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1376923676 166965 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`netsplit < 1376923677 520799 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: netsplit: not found < 1376924259 426495 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome Serendipity < 1376924262 453198 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​04Serendipity: Wel12come02 to the international hub 02for es09o04teric progr10ammin10g08 l08anguage14 des09ign an05d deployment! Fo02r more information05,14 ch05eck07 o12ut 05o07ur 09wi08ki:06 http://esolangs.org/03wiki/Main_Page. (For the oth03er 03kind of 03esoter13ica, try #esoteric on irc.d12al.net.)11 < 1376924332 667972 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1376924889 319413 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376925277 675688 :nooodl!~nooodl@100.144-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Roujo: so is this the new hexham < 1376925344 213408 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: I don't know. What *was* hexham - I haven't yet been privy to that information < 1376925377 296774 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo, it's this tiny town in england < 1376925392 99733 :nooodl!~nooodl@100.144-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :two #esoteric members (Taneb and elliott) turned out to live in the same 10000-people town < 1376925396 968180 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1376925403 887560 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice < 1376925404 628274 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott and Taneb are both from there and arrived here completely independently < 1376925414 132657 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-118-53.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We haven't even met < 1376925414 684324 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah, there are like 1 or 2 million people here < 1376925429 630905 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aren't you forbidden from meeting, though? < 1376925464 582012 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1376925465 486731 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1000000 / 7000000000 < 1376925466 621639 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1.4285714285714287e-4 < 1376925472 486651 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"so, really, what are the chances!" < 1376925503 104613 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wel... < 1376925504 486376 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well* < 1376925513 852851 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Having two Montrealers here is more likely, BUT < 1376925532 808131 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily is the brother of one of my friends < 1376925542 703890 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :So... I don't know if *that* evens out the odds < 1376925546 60037 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Evening the odds" < 1376925555 771775 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's an odd thing to say =P < 1376925605 209086 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-118-53.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it is an odd evening < 1376925614 462428 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-118-53.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, I've got bad news < 1376925632 718864 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-118-53.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :At the end of September/beginning of October I'm leaving Hexham < 1376925642 551851 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no < 1376925648 2541 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1376925648 506374 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :this can't be true < 1376925650 401748 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :will you be allowed to meet elliott then < 1376925650 627857 :nooodl!~nooodl@100.144-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf no < 1376925651 890242 :nooodl!~nooodl@100.144-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't < 1376925674 788021 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-118-53.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am moving to York where I shall be attending university < 1376925701 764272 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :since when was york on the cards < 1376925726 326394 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-118-53.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since about the same time Birmingham and Loughborough were < 1376925736 603977 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :loughborough is a place?? < 1376925744 56204 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-118-53.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1376925751 258484 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-118-53.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's in the midlands < 1376925763 982409 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds too british to be real imo < 1376925768 537299 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :good job not choosing it < 1376925774 772309 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you ruined the dream of the midlands as a new centre of esolanging < 1376925785 805967 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-118-53.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I decided that there were already too many esolangers in the West Midlands and not enough in Yorkshire < 1376925810 384552 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1376925856 717890 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-118-53.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, Loughborough is totally pronounced "Loobaroo". If anyone says anything else, they are wrong. < 1376925938 11390 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i... < 1376925960 259810 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's luffburgh you moron < 1376926045 263742 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Loobaroo++ < 1376926054 564206 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like C < 1376926057 192399 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only... ++er < 1376926065 668349 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :incrementeder < 1376926149 955121 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Further more increasingly < 1376926325 710159 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-118-53.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, shh don't tell them < 1376926963 56430 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are the people who live there called "Loobies," then? < 1376927437 923275 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1376927789 840534 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :back from a very enterprisey meeting. < 1376927822 531657 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you leverage enough paradigms < 1376927836 539947 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, but we're going to monetize synergy. < 1376927862 220826 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(seriously. two clients have very similar aims, so they're going to split the bill between themselves and receive de same product.) < 1376927870 239110 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/de/the/ < 1376927969 651371 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is "synergy"? < 1376928016 687240 :iamfishhead!~jgoldste@192.147.44.15 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376928056 743176 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you mean: we're going to monetize the thing called synergy or < 1376928082 220259 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the manner "synergy" < 1376928246 902737 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :The company I work for is called iSynergy < 1376928252 491032 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Take from that what you will < 1376928274 191192 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That's an order) < 1376928286 176404 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1376928525 6289 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm confused < 1376928533 875564 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo == boily? < 1376928543 262826 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not exactly < 1376928558 70270 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :But Roujo's friend's brother = boily < 1376928672 826181 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: haha nice < 1376928997 81036 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1376929144 312847 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :so... < 1376929193 340787 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily is the brother of Roujo's brother and he's monetizing the company Roujo works at? < 1376929278 997855 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, let's go with that < 1376929330 639037 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1376929396 581286 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: how do you feel about hat? < 1376929401 984052 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :*that < 1376929423 364668 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty ambiguously < 1376929429 123158 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I'm not sure < 1376929983 375820 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1376930574 731998 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1376930776 669719 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1376930916 92606 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Client Quit < 1376931096 658158 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: The struct held his beloved integer in his strong, protecting arms, his eyes like sapphire orbs staring into her own. "W-will you... Will you union me?" < 1376931109 923948 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376931481 305983 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1376931497 633406 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ambiguity is good, and highly regarded in this channel. < 1376931525 490819 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or is it? < 1376931541 67965 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1376931541 747085 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn boily is the brother of Roujo's brother and he's monetizing the company Roujo works at, or something Canadian like that. < 1376931546 47786 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1376931583 289117 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course you did < 1376931645 670492 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the brother pointer indirection is a little bit off, but for `? that'll do. < 1376931684 749300 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1376931751 745927 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :macro (->) :: [d, ~f |- a -> Done] => [e, f |- b] => [d, e |- a -> b] < 1376931818 761179 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :|-? < 1376931831 303066 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.altmetric.com/details.php?domain=www.cell.com&citation_id=997561 huh, altmetric is a weird thing < 1376931839 365585 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1376931881 928725 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The macro '->' is used with an expression that has type 'a -> Done' in context 'd, ~f' and an expression that has type 'b' in context 'e, f' to form an expression that has type 'a -> b' in context 'd, e'." < 1376931913 972935 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :assert(boily->brother->brother == Roujo) < 1376931921 865566 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION waits and see < 1376931925 891003 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :s < 1376931929 279145 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :WAITS AND SEES < 1376931937 726615 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :git commit sepukku < 1376931938 685031 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait's and see's < 1376932007 665241 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Macro" is a bit of a misnomer here, since -> doesn't expand to anything. < 1376932014 688548 :^v!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376932027 55974 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it doesn't have to be such a simple kind of macro though? < 1376932043 762297 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it has a macrotype signature. < 1376932050 405378 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, you could define actual macros along these lines. < 1376932153 109620 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :macro myLet :: [~d |- a -> Done] => [e |- a] => [d |- b] => [e |- b] < 1376932158 516982 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi NICK :hjdicks < 1376932176 328700 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :myLet \x 5 (x + 3) -- evaluates to 8 < 1376932202 735563 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess the definition would just be this: myLet a b c = (a -> c) b < 1376932216 604706 :hjdicks!nortti@nano.smar.fi NICK :nortti < 1376932228 213939 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does that make sense to me. < 1376932238 47414 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's kind of supposed to. < 1376932260 273750 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the type still doesn't < 1376932282 18061 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376932390 306172 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :me gives Roujo some BEES! < 1376932405 550205 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION didn't send a slash < 1376932448 897609 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: uhm. I think it's assert(boily->brother->friend == Roujo). < 1376932481 374809 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: are you seriously disputing `? < 1376932490 778020 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1376932497 658937 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: you are sick. sick < 1376932530 305497 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat sick > boily < 1376932537 645671 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is a serious matter, of capital international importance. < 1376932554 736768 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily is a serious matter < 1376932558 658479 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :'`?' has never been wrong before < 1376932565 243829 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1376932566 789922 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wrong < 1376932568 125488 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrong? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1376932568 475436 :myndzl!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69            | < 1376932568 641238 :myndzl!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69          o/`¯º < 1376932571 275731 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :see. < 1376932571 833671 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :see. < 1376932573 619321 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :less matter, more phase transition of matter < 1376932588 736800 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: stop being like me. it's disturbing. < 1376932596 435759 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo no < 1376932600 90694 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? right < 1376932601 665563 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :right? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1376932602 287356 :myndzl!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69            | < 1376932602 482319 :myndzl!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69          º¯`\o < 1376932605 368279 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH SNAP < 1376932609 758658 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric ::o < 1376932613 197411 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? left < 1376932614 957253 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :left? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1376932615 346693 :myndzl!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69           | < 1376932615 491340 :myndzl!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69         º¯`\o < 1376932619 804322 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? `? < 1376932621 706171 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :See `? for further details. < 1376932625 506069 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "HackEgo is always right" >wisdom/right < 1376932625 650471 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ` < 1376932629 547896 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​` is the prefix to greatness. < 1376932631 313407 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1376932636 233133 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run run away < 1376932637 472591 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: run: command not found < 1376932642 567706 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? right < 1376932642 714763 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run freedom run < 1376932643 717379 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: freedom: command not found < 1376932644 88745 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo is always right < 1376932653 750313 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hey HackEgo do something that shows that you know what you're talking about < 1376932655 326520 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey HackEgo do something that shows that you know what you're talking about? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1376932659 154281 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run touch wisdom/right < 1376932660 216849 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1376932680 762188 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? control codes < 1376932682 88440 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :control codes? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1376932682 461096 :myndzl!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                    | < 1376932682 668484 :myndzl!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                  o/`¯º < 1376932690 104032 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? right < 1376932690 248597 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :not bad < 1376932691 777766 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo is always right < 1376932702 537477 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat dog wisdom/right < 1376932703 578748 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo is always right < 1376932708 769578 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat dog > wisdom/right < 1376932711 858648 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1376932733 277101 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run forkbomb.sh < 1376932734 550681 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: forkbomb.sh: command not found < 1376932738 522614 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well that's nice < 1376932741 496212 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn red 05A synonym of "five". < 1376932745 180621 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1376932750 498722 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? red < 1376932752 288119 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :red 05A synonym of "five". < 1376932756 493622 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmm < 1376932766 178923 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat wisdom/red < 1376932767 416207 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :red 05A synonym of "five". < 1376932768 640212 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :On a scale of "lol" to "ban", how encouraged is bot abuse? < 1376932771 490574 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, yes. < 1376932778 48654 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: "lol", I think. < 1376932780 902868 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: red, as in the mahjong tiles? < 1376932787 667017 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm wisdom/red < 1376932790 682608 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1376932792 700925 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run chmod -x run < 1376932794 63151 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :chmod: cannot access `run': No such file or directory < 1376932798 102378 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awww =P < 1376932803 772483 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run chmod -x bin/run < 1376932805 354630 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :chmod: cannot access `bin/run': No such file or directory < 1376932808 724141 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn. < 1376932811 419203 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run run < 1376932812 751807 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: run: command not found < 1376932816 896547 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ohhh < 1376932818 96572 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I guess so. < 1376932818 592723 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ohhhhhh < 1376932823 69640 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls < 1376932824 679141 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :a.c \ a.out \ bi \ bin \ canary \ delvs \ delvs-master \ dog \ etc \ factor \ god \ hi-bool.bf \ ibin \ interps \ lib \ master.tar.gz \ multiply.bf \ no \ paste \ pref \ prefs \ quines \ quotes \ share \ src \ wisdom < 1376932827 301252 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :run just isn't a command. < 1376932842 914833 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls src < 1376932844 329895 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuck.fu \ egobot.tar.xz \ emmental.hs \ factor-linux-x86-64-0.95.tar.gz \ fueue.c \ ul.emm < 1376932846 58319 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION dons a pair of sunglasses to shield himself from Roujo's sudden illumination < 1376932861 32129 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls god < 1376932862 345859 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :god < 1376932870 34539 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat god/god < 1376932870 179167 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls -R / | paste < 1376932871 59308 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: god/god: Not a directory < 1376932875 307200 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run god < 1376932898 850563 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.30459 \ ls: cannot open directory /proc/1/fd: Permission denied \ ls: cannot open directory /proc/1/fdinfo: Permission denied \ ls: cannot open directory /proc/1/ns: Permission denied \ ls: cannot open directory /proc/1/task/1/fd: Permission denied \ ls: cannot open directory < 1376932900 552071 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: god: command not found < 1376932907 456600 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, we can't edit the source from inside it, right? < 1376932922 671753 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run skynet < 1376932923 955793 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: skynet: command not found < 1376932929 773481 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: the source code of the bot engine thing? Yeah, pretty sure no. < 1376932939 523499 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would be nice =P < 1376932958 234678 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the software is called UMLBox and it's open source, but you can't edit the copy that powers HackEgo < 1376932972 850521 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Imagine if you could, though. From HackEgo itself. < 1376932975 309911 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Self-award bot < 1376932980 592723 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :What could possibly go wrong < 1376932995 712114 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmm, nomic bots. < 1376933002 271785 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the spirit < 1376933005 324665 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :So yeah. HackEgo has a lot of files. < 1376933022 483150 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo Woof > dog < 1376933023 670830 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot can be edited from the inside, but only by its master. < 1376933023 952290 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie:, so i'd be happy to help an fnord archive). we'll know that's our memory...... calling...... that thing's not human... :) apparently i was wrong a while ago < 1376933025 534940 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1376933029 150263 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mount < 1376933030 122342 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :rootfs on / type rootfs (rw) \ none on /bin type hostfs (ro,nosuid,relatime,/bin/) \ none on /usr type hostfs (ro,nosuid,relatime,/usr/) \ none on /dev type hostfs (ro,nosuid,relatime,/dev/) \ none on /opt type hostfs (ro,nosuid,relatime,/opt/) \ none on /lib type hostfs (ro,nosuid,relatime,/lib/) \ none on /sbin type hostfs (ro,nosuid,relatime,/sb < 1376933036 591693 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've done a couple of "live" bugfixes. < 1376933038 426115 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :rootfs? < 1376933042 25662 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even managed to not mess up once. < 1376933071 595008 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Nice stuff =) < 1376933087 360319 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls /proc < 1376933088 963667 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 \ 10 \ 11 \ 12 \ 2 \ 275 \ 279 \ 280 \ 281 \ 282 \ 283 \ 284 \ 285 \ 286 \ 3 \ 4 \ 45 \ 47 \ 5 \ 6 \ 64 \ 7 \ 70 \ 71 \ 8 \ 9 \ buddyinfo \ bus \ cgroups \ cmdline \ config.gz \ consoles \ cpuinfo \ crypto \ devices \ diskstats \ driver \ execdomains \ exitcode \ filesystems \ fs \ interrupts \ iomem \ ioports \ irq \ kallsyms \ kcore \ kmsg \ kp < 1376933089 536507 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pwd < 1376933090 690736 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv < 1376933091 453694 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of masters, I bought the first box of Tanto Cuore this weekend. yes, I am ashamed of myself. < 1376933108 436632 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not really be design, it's just that it has a raw-code execution command, and Befunge is so self-modificatory. < 1376933114 539752 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oli would be proud =P < 1376933228 777248 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, ^code uses SUBR? I didn't remember that. < 1376933231 860684 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat /proc/285/cmdline < 1376933232 932663 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it was easier. < 1376933233 77135 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat. < 1376933233 744315 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: I also scored myself the travel version of Hive with bonus pieces (an excellent strategy game), and a box of The Price is Right (free giveaway that is going to end up at tonight's Douteux auction). < 1376933245 365969 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Nice, nice < 1376933252 790811 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mind if I keep running that command over and over until it yields something different? < 1376933253 10851 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not really into board games, though < 1376933253 813652 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat /proc/285/cmdline < 1376933255 61727 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat. < 1376933256 502567 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat /proc/285/cmdline < 1376933257 614435 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat. < 1376933261 460179 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well this is no fun. < 1376933261 840509 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I have no idea what you're talking about < 1376933271 875387 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat /proc/285 < 1376933273 103209 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: /proc/285: Is a directory < 1376933277 408116 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat /proc/285/* < 1376933278 589692 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: /proc/285/*: No such file or directory < 1376933280 494692 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sed /proc/285/cmdline < 1376933281 740386 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: -e expression #1, char 7: unknown command: `2' < 1376933288 721091 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: there's a first time to everything! it's never too late or early to succumb to the glorious temptation of boardgaming :D < 1376933293 105808 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed < /proc/285/cmdline < 1376933294 538588 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usage: sed [OPTION]... {script-only-if-no-other-script} [input-file]... \ \ -n, --quiet, --silent \ suppress automatic printing of pattern space \ -e script, --expression=script \ add the script to the commands to be executed \ -f script-file, --file=script-file \ add the contents of script- < 1376933307 844200 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed < 1376933309 79005 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usage: sed [OPTION]... {script-only-if-no-other-script} [input-file]... \ \ -n, --quiet, --silent \ suppress automatic printing of pattern space \ -e script, --expression=script \ add the script to the commands to be executed \ -f script-file, --file=script-file \ add the contents of script- < 1376933309 952616 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just what the heck are you trying to accomplish here ._o < 1376933314 22886 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. < 1376933334 289708 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: me? I'm trying to predict what process our IRC commands run as. < 1376933352 392438 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks like maybe it's always process 285 for some reason. < 1376933354 773201 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed /proc/285/cmdline s/sed/des/g > dog < 1376933358 106453 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: -e expression #1, char 7: unknown command: `2' < 1376933359 676122 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo $$ < 1376933361 29196 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :284 < 1376933362 156396 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo $$ < 1376933363 396963 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :284 < 1376933366 584955 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the bash. < 1376933369 408311 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: There's no randomness in it, so I'm not sure why it would be inconsistent. < 1376933387 581369 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Evidently the setup runs exactly 282 tasks. < 1376933387 994401 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I suppose whatever you run under it will be 285.) < 1376933391 765941 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or processes, anyway. < 1376933404 458030 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed 's///' < /proc/285/cmdline < 1376933405 953043 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: -e expression #1, char 0: no previous regular expression < 1376933411 925838 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :What now? < 1376933415 336771 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo echo run > run < 1376933418 584286 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1376933421 475520 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run run < 1376933422 751674 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: run: command not found < 1376933427 580185 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run chmod +x run < 1376933429 620849 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed p < /proc/285/cmdline < 1376933430 553504 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1376933431 717998 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat. \ cat. < 1376933433 4024 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run run < 1376933434 15214 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: run: command not found < 1376933438 760524 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :DAMMIT HACKEGO < 1376933441 272767 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1376933442 650358 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :a.c \ a.out \ bi \ bin \ canary \ delvs \ delvs-master \ dog \ etc \ factor \ god \ hi-bool.bf \ ibin \ interps \ lib \ master.tar.gz \ multiply.bf \ no \ paste \ pref \ prefs \ quines \ quotes \ run \ share \ src \ wisdom < 1376933445 602493 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat run < 1376933446 672362 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo run < 1376933446 872947 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: so uh... are *all processes* started up and then killed every time an IRC command is run? < 1376933453 297835 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run run < 1376933454 481380 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: run: command not found < 1376933454 876507 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1376933459 623937 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: the home directory isn't in $PATH i don't think < 1376933460 755345 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run hackenv/run < 1376933461 789794 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: hackenv/run: No such file or directory < 1376933462 789116 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awwww < 1376933467 852955 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ./run < 1376933468 182348 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Given how long HackEgo's been around, I find it shocking that you don't know how it works. < 1376933468 934465 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :run < 1376933478 915692 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :each command boots a fresh Linux VM < 1376933482 23668 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I am so sorry. < 1376933482 272313 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1376933485 734 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for liberal meanings of 'fresh' and 'VM' < 1376933489 832314 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and 'boots' < 1376933494 735865 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: btw did you see my link to my bloge < 1376933498 264372 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :and 'Linux'? < 1376933502 608175 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bloge? < 1376933502 777307 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the filesystem changes are merged afterward with Mercurial < 1376933507 143541 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck bloge < 1376933507 434224 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1376933507 578652 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: probably not that one < 1376933511 422355 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :bloeg < 1376933512 72925 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :UML is in-tree < 1376933512 280403 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: huh. < 1376933512 587112 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run export PATH=$PATH:~ < 1376933513 844492 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1376933515 634766 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck bloeg < 1376933515 874484 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1376933516 166193 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like a doge < 1376933517 320566 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run run < 1376933518 412057 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: run: command not found < 1376933521 895092 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :why~~ < 1376933523 912171 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: the thing about... uh, animals and engineers and stuff? < 1376933526 449396 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Are you saying it's some sort of non-liberal fascist Linux? < 1376933526 945428 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeh < 1376933534 299642 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo `cat /proc/285/cmdline` < 1376933534 847637 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :just wondering is all, it's not important < 1376933535 580458 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash-cecho `cat /proc/285/cmdline` < 1376933536 287979 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo $PATH < 1376933537 705121 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin:/opt/python27/bin:/opt/ghc/bin:/usr/bin:/bin < 1376933540 56260 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: pure communist open-source linux < 1376933546 169818 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :What the heck is bash-cecho? < 1376933548 380700 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I saw it, seemed reasonable, wasn't sure exactly why you linked it to me... maybe I should read the paper and not just the bit you quoted < 1376933549 771731 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cp run /bin < 1376933550 470651 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Friday subtly shifted into Monday, and had an evil dæmonic offspring that is happening at this very moment... < 1376933551 189201 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :cp: cannot create regular file `/bin/run': Read-only file system < 1376933558 244077 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cp run /hackenv/bin < 1376933561 885 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: "bash" "-c" "echo" with no spaces. < 1376933561 655537 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1376933564 584494 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: some weeks friday comes early < 1376933565 10033 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run run < 1376933566 73812 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :run < 1376933568 720159 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :THERE WE GO < 1376933571 604507 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: where'd the spaces go? < 1376933581 425702 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: There are no spaces in /proc/pid/cmdline. < 1376933583 685075 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: just because i thought it was a nicer use of biological/computer analogies than "DNA is digital", plus generally because i thought it was cool < 1376933595 69699 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: well, why not? }:| < 1376933599 115536 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo `cat -v /proc/285/cmdline` < 1376933600 362468 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash^@-c^@echo `cat -v /proc/285/cmdline`^@ < 1376933609 865328 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because they're separated by '\0's. < 1376933615 27629 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh. < 1376933621 740856 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The individual arguments, that is.) < 1376933631 572234 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :DNA is digital though < 1376933650 411852 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'll never get me to stop pointing that out ;) < 1376933653 422064 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well OK I suppose it is digital < 1376933657 194896 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you're still right. < 1376933677 167279 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and some of the advantages of digital information storage are very important to both biological and computer systems < 1376933677 311875 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't mean i'm ever going to stop complaining about people calling it "the programming language of the body" or whatever~ < 1376933681 17679 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1376933690 417919 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmhm < 1376933694 973542 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you read that part of GEB where hofstadter says a bunch of stuff like that < 1376933698 255816 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bet it would piss you off a lot < 1376933703 187843 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did but i don't remember it < 1376933706 725115 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if you want to be pissed off a lot by a book, go read that hth < 1376933723 351880 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls /hackenv/bin < 1376933724 689628 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​! \ ? \ ¿ \ @ \ ؟ \ WELCOME \  \  \ aaaaaaaaa \ addquote \ addwep \ allquotes \ anonlog \ aseen \ bienvenido \ botsnack \ bseen \ calc \ CaT \ cats \ danddreclist \ define \ delquote \ e \ emmental \ emoclew \ emptylist \ erflist \ etymology \ forget \ fortune \ frink \ fueue \ gaseen \ gccrun \ google \ h \ ?h \ h! \ hatesge < 1376933725 171934 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i do like that my mutations haven't killed me yet due to error-correcting-code-esque properties of transcription < 1376933729 335422 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :good stuff, imo < 1376933770 124585 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1376933773 93337 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno how much angrier i can be at GEB really, i already had my eyes roll out of my head at the zen stuff < 1376933783 77680 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :goooooooooood shit man *puff* *puff* < 1376933786 332780 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1376933796 572514 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Zen is beyond ridicule because it so comprehensively ridicules itself < 1376933807 654043 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why can your eyes roll out of your head at the Zen stuff? < 1376933809 34884 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good trick < 1376933812 948452 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know a pretty hardcore buddhist who doesn't know shit about zen, it's great to see her get questions about it. "I DON'T FUCKING KNOW, JESUS CHRIST YOU HIPPIES" < 1376933823 167451 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1376933835 268529 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :itt rants against hippies < 1376933850 903839 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: general (western person twisting buddhism to fit their preconceptions)-ness < 1376933851 779844 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is a big rant against hippies in the big mushroom guide that my girlfriend got < 1376933863 604468 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: sounds like she ought to be more zen about questions about zen < 1376933867 435169 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, it's not as bad as the beatniks or anything < 1376933882 391294 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which concludes with basically "btw if you want to trip that's fine just don't ask me stupid questions about fungi" < 1376933887 144666 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1376933900 699208 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"in that chapter we're going to cover psychoactive drugs, which is usually a fun topic" how appropriate, prof < 1376933931 708132 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1376933952 40293 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :our awful intro-bio-for-non-bio-majors class was called "Drugs and the Brain" < 1376933956 573779 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :less interesting than you might think < 1376933961 187653 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lolllll :( < 1376933969 861376 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no practicum component < 1376933976 324429 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :endocannabinoid system ftw < 1376933991 573655 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike I need to learn about the subjective difference between THC and CBD intoxication < 1376934027 751304 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :cross publish your trip report on silk road and the journal of experimental biology < 1376934039 780648 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1376934040 576588 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, erwid, that's what i'ts called < 1376934046 120479 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1376934066 656258 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and JEB doesn't really cover human experience either but whatever < 1376934077 932495 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder how often david nichols's grad students have random people ask them for experimental hallucinogens < 1376934097 878303 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i also wonder what their parties are like < 1376934102 472418 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just occured to me that you could seriously publish a trip report in a serious anthropology journal < 1376934112 269141 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :best science? maybe < 1376934145 724473 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i knew a friend of a friend who was a grad student (not for nichols) and said their strategy was basically "synthesize drug, take drug, see what drug does, figure out how to reproduce in rats so it's publishable" < 1376934164 830868 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :intelligent drug design < 1376934255 386331 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there must be a lot of really interesting psychedelic drugs that are as yet undiscovered < 1376934294 220253 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably... i don't think pharmacology is far along enough yet that we can work out how stuff works, honestly :/ < 1376934315 454008 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, among all the known phenethylamines and tryptamines, there's a single drug with a strong specific effect on auditory processing < 1376934326 535284 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(diisopropyl tryptamine aka DiPT) < 1376934327 448420 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh i immediately thought of that too < 1376934350 870892 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if i could get into working on physiological optics and then figure out how optical hallucinogens work, heh < 1376934356 9245 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I dunno what this would be like if psychedelics got the same amount of study as boner pills < 1376934370 497845 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha well a friend of mine did some research on that < 1376934401 516031 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :made a model of wave propagation in V1 neurons and then compared the result to known hallucination patterns < 1376934405 308184 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1376934412 3234 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's polar mapped so you get either concentric circles or radial lines < 1376934415 275 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the book on vision i'm reading does get pretty "have you ever really looked at your hands" at points < 1376934435 766651 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1376934454 441376 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow the professor just said biopsychology and behavioral neuroscience are the same thing. wow dude. wow < 1376934566 291462 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Fiberoptic control of motion in Chr2 mouse" good recovery. < 1376934638 412877 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hey! one of the labs here is doing research on pain treatment with THC and opiates. < 1376934718 271566 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only time I was on opiates was a very interesting experience. < 1376934772 729749 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://blinkdb.org/ anyway, cool computer thing. < 1376935138 716257 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is the fastest algorithm to find two equal values in an unsorted (and for that matter, unstortable) sequence of values? < 1376935166 48388 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :(assuming nothing can be assumed about the values in the sequence) < 1376935169 46822 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the hell does "unsortable" mean (i have no idea though) < 1376935181 261458 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :it means, you can't sort it < 1376935194 237837 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least it's not practically doable < 1376935197 946339 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :nor useful < 1376935250 646776 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you put the whole thing in memory? =P < 1376935381 582585 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :unsortable, as in your values do not form a poset? < 1376935473 432686 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: depends on how many memory you have. Probably not though. Maybe if you invented an architecture using 2048 bits as address size < 1376935487 273463 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: That can be arranged < 1376935503 309420 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :unsortable = the algorithm T must be such that, for any turing machine M, for large enough n, on input lists of size n, M takes at least time O(n log n) to compute the sorted version of the input from any internal state encountered during the run of T or does not compute it. < 1376935509 986761 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and if you have enough memory to use up all those addresses) < 1376935512 94702 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're looking for ANY two equal values, right? < 1376935513 338564 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :not very clear perhaps < 1376935516 23943 :Bike_!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1376935525 773507 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: yes < 1376935550 298066 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1376935554 474552 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alright, here's what I would do < 1376935558 322282 :Bike_!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu NICK :Bike < 1376935569 294161 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :but anyway, perhaps you can formalize things like "write an algorithm that does X without doing Y" like this < 1376935587 689116 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm... < 1376935589 138707 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nevermind < 1376935641 342137 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: well, it might be sortable. But I only need to find the value once, so I don't think there is little point. I also need the indexes of the two equal elements, however those change after sorting. < 1376935653 60201 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :*the two equal values < 1376935693 694755 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is listening to a jazz album that features slightly disturbing samples of farm animals... < 1376935762 945280 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: If it's unsorted then I see it as worst case O(n²) < 1376935777 202773 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the only thing you can do is brute force < 1376935799 806669 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't think of anything that wouldn't be the obvious n² one < 1376935813 505711 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: that's because there isn't anything < 1376935837 658459 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't be so pessimistic. remember grover's algorithm. < 1376935895 946763 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd be tempted to only match the first bytes at first to speed things up < 1376935908 276897 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I have no idea if I'd save anything in the end < 1376935919 870480 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: isn't there some crazy algorithm that will solve everything automagically :(? < 1376935929 763778 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: That's only for quantum computers though < 1376935935 321670 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :theefull < 1376935947 650217 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: swapping the current universe for one that has already solved the problem. < 1376935963 610216 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: what about... building a quantum computer < 1376935968 834840 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Snowflake Algorithm: return false; < 1376935977 139346 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :1) check if the problem is solved. 2) if not, implode universe < 1376935981 594301 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: i think you usually assume comparison is constant-time in these things. < 1376935997 741173 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1376935998 439089 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: swapping the current universe for one that already has a quantum computer < 1376936008 944305 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Oh. Oh well =P < 1376936025 545947 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still, it would be a neat trick if you can't hold a whole element in memory < 1376936032 80149 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :though i guess you might have a point. you could reject some results in, uh, less-constant time, at least. < 1376936049 177703 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's probably irrelevant to the O time of the anothertestgorithm. < 1376936053 972200 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you can only do comparisons, then you can probably prove an n log n lower bound for the number of comparisons < 1376936056 335891 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: If I swap the universe, wouldn't that invalidate my pointers? < 1376936056 570033 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :needed < 1376936057 123631 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, it's still n^2 < 1376936066 310315 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: Not if they were safe pointers < 1376936066 927259 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can do it in two O(n) passes with a hash table right < 1376936074 124593 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: nah. too mainstream, and not ambitiöus enough. < 1376936075 907763 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or if you just want to catch the "no solution" case, a bloom filter < 1376936118 753894 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok I can do another thing < 1376936135 373642 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :suppose that given a value x at position i < 1376936144 309498 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :then I can compute the value y at position i + 1 < 1376936155 650725 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :and for that matter z at position i + n < 1376936169 769481 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hash tables are the obvious solution if you're fine with "works in practice with probability 100-epsilon %", but _what if everything maps to the same element_ < 1376936172 394530 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :starting to think you've presented your problem in a weird way here! < 1376936172 706969 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Input formula into recursive equation solver, profit < 1376936188 258876 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: universal hashes, hth < 1376936202 84517 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: hmmmm what if the problem was weird < 1376936230 270181 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: err, afaik that doesn't really help for deterministic algorithms < 1376936231 415070 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: well i mean, you were talking about lists but now you're talking about "computing", which makes it seem like you contorted your actual problem to fit a list paradigm for us in the first place < 1376936234 610591 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: What if you use the value as a hash? < 1376936237 971651 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would use a hashtable if only it could store 10^600 elements < 1376936254 810881 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: Get a bigger table < 1376936266 473271 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chop down a bittree < 1376936271 504188 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(unrelatedly, if you have induction i wouldn't have even mentioned the z computation) < 1376936280 200579 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yes, it's a sequence < 1376936336 622197 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so for example, it seems like this goes forever, is there guaranteed to be a repeated value at some point, or could it be monotonic or something < 1376936344 691545 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: You could probably have a hash table that adapts to the input < 1376936348 533035 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that will never happen < 1376936369 468964 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yes, I have managed to found bounds for that as well < 1376936373 797631 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lookups would be just as fast but insertions would be worse < 1376936383 530129 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: well kindof < 1376936388 711716 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://rrresearch.fieldofscience.com/2013/07/apple-academic-press-predatory.html anyway here's a weird thing < 1376936388 856510 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :you cannot have a hashing algorithm where it's not possible that everything you encounter maps to the same element, unless you do no compression < 1376936433 178924 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Treat every value as an address in memory. When you encounter a value, if its bit is on, it's a match! If it's not, well, meh. < 1376936445 836960 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Turn it on and go on to the next value < 1376936452 599879 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alternatively: < 1376936470 41139 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1376936472 722201 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: is there a distribution the values follow? can you do any sequence acceleration? what are the properties of the sequence in general? or do you just want us to ignore these and consider it an arbitrary sequence, like you said < 1376936499 152050 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@154.5.184.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376936503 917368 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you want the first duplicate or any duplicate? bla bla, bla bla bla, bla < 1376936508 256276 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I don't want you to ignore them, but I can't tell you the properties either because... well because. < 1376936508 829116 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :foreach(Value value : values) { if(File.exists(value)) { /* found match! /* } else { File.create(value) } }; < 1376936513 721541 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: ok < 1376936526 478642 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Not even if you change the algorithm if you get more than n things in one element? < 1376936531 777276 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1376936534 941874 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heck < 1376936535 909100 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :not even then < 1376936537 512846 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can tell you that the distribution isn't known though < 1376936544 645806 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: but for example, you could have a linear algorithm with constant space if you knew that eventually two duplicate elements would be adjacent < 1376936545 713743 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :foreach(Value value : values) { if(File.exists(value)) { /* found match! /* } else { File.create(value).write(value.getIndex()) } } < 1376936560 628727 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that you have the matching index in the file < 1376936564 538456 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's... O(n)? < 1376936572 20149 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well... not sure about linear really. < 1376936572 235516 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or maybe yes, let's think a bit) < 1376936590 604926 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it's linear in the length until there are adjacent duplicates :D < 1376936595 401199 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: But that would mean that there is a set of values which will always map to the same element no matter what hashing algorithm you use < 1376936606 756789 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1376936607 773031 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Well I can predict the minimum and maximum distance between the two equal values < 1376936609 163428 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hell, if File.create fails if the file already exists, then it's even easier! < 1376936622 168857 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :which certainly helps, but brute force is just not really what I want < 1376936622 543703 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: "the" two? are there only two? < 1376936631 651601 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not brute force :( < 1376936636 69071 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: no, "any" two < 1376936637 702957 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and by yes i mean you're right, that is not true < 1376936639 609006 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh ok < 1376936659 885211 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1376936675 529956 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so when you say "i don't want brute force" in response to my solution there i assume you mean that you expect there to be duplicates long before the adjacent (or minimally distant) ones, and would rather get thoe < 1376936679 824421 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :those < 1376936689 5010 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :which raises questions about your specific requirements, i think < 1376936690 76698 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: you could have two elements though and split based on the mean value < 1376936702 798830 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could of course just put the value in the next slot if the previous one is full, and you would certainly have only one value per hash cell < 1376936747 313514 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which would mean that you would have to potentially rebuild your hashcells on each insertion in the worst case < 1376936751 410541 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :in any case i'm pretty sure no matter what you do a hash does not give any speedup in the worst case < 1376936773 786259 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you're right, what i said earlier does not in any way prove this, perhaps i thought it did < 1376936781 473957 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: I'm just thinking you can always make lookup better by making insertion worse < 1376936786 209983 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1376936819 21009 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like my File System idea (^_^) < 1376936841 277515 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm just saying that i'm sure hash tables cannot be made 100% foolproof < 1376936852 832293 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hands out fibonacci heaps to everyone < 1376936859 283338 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Unless your hash function maps a value to itself < 1376936860 834168 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: well suppose you want two find two equal values. Say they are located at i and j. I know that lower_bound < |i - j| < upper_bound. I can compute those bounds < 1376936867 257205 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yeah, it's not really a hash function then =P < 1376936874 989326 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: right, unless there is no compression, as i mentioned earlier < 1376936883 381082 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Not even with a meta-function that creates hash functions? < 1376936897 101401 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :And horrid insertion complexity < 1376936911 721705 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_hashing is like such a metafunction < 1376936941 736120 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :for probabilistic algorithms, universal hashing ofc works < 1376936945 703794 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: well that gives you an O(i*(upper-lower)) time and O(upper-lower) space algorithm at least < 1376936956 833525 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: er assuming you don't mind computing those bounds < 1376936980 829634 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I also know that i + 1 == j + 1 is veru likely to be true < 1376936999 110981 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I can compute those bounds using simple calculations, so no < 1376937006 474157 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure that helps, but ok < 1376937043 93166 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric ::q < 1376937048 818914 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrong window, sorry < 1376937061 173181 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :an emoticon or vi? we may neve rknow < 1376937072 293372 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :vim :) < 1376937081 428170 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Watch out, that space looks like it's escaping < 1376937083 153228 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :way to ruin the mystery asshole < 1376937096 692502 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in our offices we have the usual vim vs. heretics religion war. < 1376937099 722975 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: neve's a strong one, she can keep it contained < 1376937122 557574 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Obviously ed wins < 1376937132 779964 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: actually, what makes you think that wasn't a lie < 1376937138 777397 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric ::o < 1376937138 921933 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Despite vim having ex built in < 1376937139 568795 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I just use Notepad++ =P < 1376937142 310537 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION ducks < 1376937149 32983 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: of course, even if I had an argument with a sysadmin about the merits of sed against ed. < 1376937158 946954 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: anyway how about this look-ahead-between-lower-and-upper algorithm, does that help you < 1376937170 798175 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: You mean notepad right? Who still uses ++ these days? < 1376937183 586861 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: that reminds me, I think I owe you a smack from last friday, quand que t'as mentionné Pauline, you evil miscreant! < 1376937189 749728 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1376937200 354221 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh =P < 1376937206 68702 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: well, that was my first idea but I figured that it wasn't very efficient < 1376937213 631089 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: I use ++ all the time. Why would you prefer notepad? < 1376937231 182061 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: intuitively it seems like it uses the least possible number of comparisons, not that i have a proof < 1376937242 902615 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: It's like preferring C++ over C... ask eliott or someone else < 1376937269 160502 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, Notepad doesn't support syntax highlighting, or regex, or custom commands... < 1376937276 522748 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: to ++ or not to ++? < 1376937276 856741 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: and is one thing which you might want is broken" archives. even less chance. i called " o" in " the other side has. you came through, which is the bit-reversal of the statement is encountered, it is also readily than they use over there < 1376937282 662290 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: "well C doesn't support classes" < 1376937298 168441 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Well C is a beautiful note, thank you very much < 1376937305 584516 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :C3 or bust < 1376937311 504903 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Some people prefer sam < 1376937312 253530 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :c4 mother fucker < 1376937323 553322 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about wordpad < 1376937328 18275 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone still use that < 1376937337 380201 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :did anyone ever use that anyway < 1376937342 128525 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: eh? you sure? < 1376937348 104546 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Yeah < 1376937351 756222 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i used to use it when notepad would crash on long documents < 1376937358 210379 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: I did by error once, but corrected myself soon afterwards. < 1376937366 53928 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :notepad doesn't have undo :( < 1376937368 284483 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: lolwat.rtf < 1376937375 461811 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :sam's manpage is broken for some reason though < 1376937386 478865 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, yes, and when people gave me rtfs for some godforsaken reason < 1376937392 985323 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run man cat < 1376937394 611753 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :man: can't open the manpath configuration file /etc/manpath.config < 1376937394 902785 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried acme, too. got utterly confused by the way the mouse is used. < 1376937400 368321 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run man-cat < 1376937401 681229 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: man-cat: command not found < 1376937407 201696 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run, man cat! < 1376937408 248036 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: run,: not found < 1376937426 41336 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wordpad has that horrible thing where you cannot choose anything but full words < 1376937430 341493 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise it's like notepad with undo < 1376937430 658356 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: rtfcb < 1376937447 115979 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :can i help you < 1376937450 99238 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: hmm... well I guess that's bad news (and possibly good news at the same time ) < 1376937450 338685 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: sam has a command-line mode < 1376937456 450604 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: "read the fucking coder's brain" < 1376937488 493774 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Via Twitter, Tuomas Aivelo reports that profs in Finland must retire at 68–but many of them keep doing research, without pay!" ok < 1376937520 684482 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: i have to compliment you here, you've got a good mix of information and hidden information here, near-optimal for evil laughs i would say < 1376937571 969366 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I would like to tell you but I'd probably disappear or something... ok I know I'm paranoia... or maybe not < 1376937581 574371 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're losing it < 1376937587 996307 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's too cheesy < 1376937601 937301 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1376937607 196119 :atrapado!~dd@95.169.243.36 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376937675 214572 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION gives a Pied-De-Vent to AnotherTest < 1376937700 764416 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(very nice cheese from Îles-de-la-Madeleine. it smells like horse.) < 1376937712 657725 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm actually limited by other people. They probably wouldn't like me disclosing the entire thing < 1376937714 211494 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, les Îles =) < 1376937807 130403 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never went there. In fact, I think the easternmost point I went to in Québec is Rimouski, and event then it only was up to Ste-Luce. < 1376937813 705801 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/event/even/ < 1376937957 474519 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: perhaps it's easier to answer the following: "what's the most efficient algorithm for cycle detection?" < 1376937963 117252 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :that could work too, not sure < 1376938036 952024 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :my experience with cycle detection is that fuck cycle detection forever, but i know there are good algorithms for it < 1376938045 148541 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bellman-ford? < 1376938101 797124 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: what's the time complexity of that? < 1376938130 271854 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um... wikipedia says O(V*E)? < 1376938205 481916 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whats V and what's E... < 1376938212 646183 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :number of vertices and edges, I think? < 1376938230 994005 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right... I'm assuming you're looking at graph theory < 1376938250 363660 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that where you'd find cycle detection stuff...? or am I missing something < 1376938269 41172 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well... I guess there's other places too < 1376938304 851196 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I went there, once. T'was nice. < 1376938475 935710 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1376938653 311618 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1376938781 326459 :Roujo_!~AndChat15@modemcable226.119-70-69.static.videotron.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1376938826 499871 :AndChat-151956!~AndChat15@out-pq-193.wireless.telus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1376938849 753709 :AndChat-151956!~AndChat15@out-pq-193.wireless.telus.com NICK :Roujo|Android < 1376938870 792512 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, you Canadians: do you play the ukulele? < 1376938877 476146 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I understand it's a thing. < 1376938939 263477 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not < 1376938953 765727 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1376938975 344287 :Roujo|Android!~AndChat15@out-pq-193.wireless.telus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :My father does < 1376939063 895616 :Roujo_!~AndChat15@modemcable226.119-70-69.static.videotron.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1376939093 628913 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(There was a documentary aired by the local public broadcasting company that was about the instrument; it featured a lot of Canadians.) < 1376939504 68 :Roujo|Android!~AndChat15@out-pq-193.wireless.telus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm on IRC. On a bus. We're living in the future. Woot. =) < 1376939591 419269 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Given how far in the future we are, it should be at least a hot air balloon or something. < 1376939599 497815 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: a colleague does. we have a lime green uke with glitters somewhere... < 1376939624 18459 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo|Android: you seem to always be in a bus. < 1376939625 455071 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Apparently it is indeed a thing. < 1376939680 470538 :Roujo|Android!~AndChat15@out-pq-193.wireless.telus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I take public transit to and from work, so... yeah =P < 1376939701 191518 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :our workplace is a little bit weird. you can deambulate all around the floor with a rubber horse head and say hello to a colleague with a chicken head on your way to coffee. < 1376939725 419026 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :This was the Linux place? Sounds par for the course. < 1376939739 68120 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo|Android: yesterday was an interesting experience. there was that murder in the night that closed off Beaubien, and then the accident at the end of the day at Rosemont. < 1376939774 180398 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: very linux place. I have a penguin plushie on my desk that I use as a projectile when a coworker says something stupid. < 1376939805 811376 :Roujo|Android!~AndChat15@out-pq-193.wireless.telus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Ah yes, the good old Rosemont Murder-Accident combo < 1376939839 102663 :Roujo|Android!~AndChat15@out-pq-193.wireless.telus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a nerf gun on and at all times at work < 1376939842 399892 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we had to walk all around a block to get to the bus, me with a set of mahjong tiles in my packsack and a table on my head. it was fungotely heavy. < 1376939842 555796 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i know i didn't know that you've had it for some time i added a new page and sends it to emacs, i suggest, vote). you need to install in /usr/ lib " 1.ss" " srfi" < 1376939845 672091 :Roujo|Android!~AndChat15@out-pq-193.wireless.telus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You never know < 1376939864 259193 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :very sensible choice. < 1376939901 576435 :Roujo|Android!~AndChat15@out-pq-193.wireless.telus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except for that one time where I knew < 1376939909 828288 :Roujo|Android!~AndChat15@out-pq-193.wireless.telus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But eh < 1376939933 518943 :Roujo|Android!~AndChat15@out-pq-193.wireless.telus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't force happiness on a person < 1376939940 654356 :Roujo|Android!~AndChat15@out-pq-193.wireless.telus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something about rape < 1376939983 109088 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :random grep question: is there a way to grep for a pattern that spans multiple lines? I'm searching for python function calls where a keyword argument has a certain value, e.g. "searched_function(..., random_arg_on_another_line='value')"? < 1376940007 424071 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo|Android: you know what they say about that: < 1376940009 487387 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~fortune < 1376940009 719955 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :All this big deal about white collar crime -- what's WRONG with white collar < 1376940009 864744 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :crime? Who enjoys his job today? You? Me? Anybody? The only satisfying < 1376940009 864826 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :part of any job is coffee break, lunch hour and quitting time. Years ago < 1376940009 864871 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was at least the hope of improvement -- eventual promotion -- more < 1376940009 864914 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :important jobs to come. Once you can be sold the myth that you may make < 1376940010 132450 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :president of the company you'll hardly ever steal stamps. But nobody < 1376940010 277425 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :believes he's going to be president anymore. The more people change jobs < 1376940011 115733 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the more they realize that there is a direct connection between working for < 1376940011 260773 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a living and total stupefying boredom. So why NOT take revenge? You're not < 1376940012 129264 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :going to find ME knocking a guy because he pads an expense account and his < 1376940012 274216 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :home stationery carries the company emblem. Take away crime from the white < 1376940013 127218 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :collar worker and you will rob him of his last vestige of job interest. < 1376940013 271832 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric : -- J. Feiffer < 1376940019 882210 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was the longest fortune. < 1376940032 199678 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it didn't even flood. I'm disappointed. < 1376940057 672502 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: As for the grep, I've used the manual "grep -A 1 stuffonfirstline | grep -B 1 stuffonsecondline". < 1376940068 66768 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It can get a bit confused if you happen to have a line that matches both.) < 1376940097 503075 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: how's your fortune? < 1376940097 684988 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: so, let's say i call them mindless games. if we hit every stupid person, any person going, tough one. if we solve it,... < 1376940105 671124 :Roujo|Android!~AndChat15@out-pq-193.wireless.telus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't know they said that, no < 1376940124 301368 :Roujo|Android!~AndChat15@out-pq-193.wireless.telus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :~theme irc < 1376940124 502688 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- Possible commands: dice, duck, echo, eval, fortune, metar, ping, yi < 1376940129 313505 :Roujo|Android!~AndChat15@out-pq-193.wireless.telus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Crap < 1376940133 796872 :Roujo|Android!~AndChat15@out-pq-193.wireless.telus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dem prefixes < 1376940142 930722 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still with the double-fault. < 1376940150 121041 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's "style".) < 1376940151 695735 :Roujo|Android!~AndChat15@out-pq-193.wireless.telus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knowwww < 1376940168 514097 :Roujo|Android!~AndChat15@out-pq-193.wireless.telus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hangs his head in shame < 1376940192 140505 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, double fault as in two simultaneous errors, not an x86 double fault < 1376940210 534220 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I went with "grep -Enrs", and hoped that both parts were on the same line. but your solution seems interestinger. < 1376940219 501567 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Roujo < 1376940221 553461 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo is a Java heretic. He also claims to be Canadian. As per the Hexham treaty, he mustn't meet boily lest the Universe be destroyed. < 1376940229 722219 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :time to update that... < 1376940249 891831 :Roujo|Android!~AndChat15@out-pq-193.wireless.telus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am the Gate < 1376940256 658229 :Roujo|Android!~AndChat15@out-pq-193.wireless.telus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am the Key < 1376940268 411173 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: The x86 double fault is what I was thinking; though I don't know what the closest IRC analogue would be. < 1376940269 211347 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hexham < 1376940271 191928 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hexham es la ciudad mas importante de programación esotérico < 1376940280 999788 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hexham treaty < 1376940282 662878 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Roujo is still a Java heretic. His claim to Canadianness is soon to be verified by boily, treaties be damned. A cocktail and destruction of the Universe are scheduled at 19h00. < 1376940282 807510 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :hexham treaty? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1376940283 257116 :myndzl!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                    | < 1376940283 491276 :myndzl!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                  º¯`\o < 1376940286 501722 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1376940300 467110 :Roujo|Android!~AndChat15@out-pq-193.wireless.telus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tonight? =P < 1376940319 482573 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :sadly, I'm not in Montreal. I'm not even in Ottawa today < 1376940326 159627 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking about making my OS use double fault as a catch-all interrupt/fault handler, using the error code of the double fault to figure out which interrupt it was trying to deliver < 1376940326 766040 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo|Android: I'll be at the Broue Pub tonight for the Douteux. http://brouepubbrouhaha.com/index.cfm < 1376940341 923207 :Roujo|Android!~AndChat15@out-pq-193.wireless.telus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, with Teneb moving, Hexham will lose its special status =P < 1376940349 119057 :Roujo|Android!~AndChat15@out-pq-193.wireless.telus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mtl4ever < 1376940351 726716 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm not sure whether that actually works though) < 1376940364 997074 :Roujo|Android!~AndChat15@out-pq-193.wireless.telus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Awww < 1376940367 738524 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :you guys should all come to waterloo, it's a pretty happening place < 1376940462 360264 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like a pretty standard Ontarian place. < 1376940499 366451 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's THE pretty standard Ontarian place, tyvm < 1376940526 127072 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought that Ottawa was more Ontarianer :p < 1376940529 594746 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION canard < 1376940541 19879 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: what? no. Ottawa is bilingual < 1376940563 298831 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and? what's the problem? < 1376940575 201544 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(vive le françâ!) < 1376940605 920638 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_ < 1376940649 746777 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the place is bilingual does that mean everyone speaks one/either language, or everyone speaks both? < 1376940673 244746 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: you have a mix of pretty much every possible case. < 1376940709 450 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you usually have more chances with English, but then it all depends where you are. sometimes Cantonese is a better choice. < 1376940772 417989 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. on hong kong? < 1376940828 365462 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: oh, I'm in favour of bilingualism < 1376940834 443238 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it makes Ottawa pretty not-Ontarian < 1376940840 129428 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :all things considered < 1376940853 987176 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed. < 1376940855 932046 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION ran into the premier on Metcalfe yesterday < 1376940869 695575 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which premier? provincial or federal? < 1376940879 11367 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :no such thing as a federal premier < 1376940906 514928 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh? they are not the same in English? < 1376940909 653661 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1376940913 630700 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh. < 1376940918 159162 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :prime minister for federal, premier for provincial < 1376940936 113633 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :premier ministre, premier ministre. < 1376940940 671666 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :although some provinces used to use prime minister like Ontario, that was eventually changed to eliminate confusion < 1376940944 913430 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know :) < 1376940953 78382 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :je parle francais... un peu < 1376940960 790381 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :c'est déjà pas pire! < 1376940970 205552 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried with Taneb once, but it didn't end well... < 1376940990 513808 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :tried what? speaking French? < 1376941015 479015 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I... uhm... forcefully inserted metaphorical electrodes in his brain. < 1376941023 175147 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1376941026 373244 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-118-53.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It hurt < 1376941030 895577 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-118-53.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, breaching the skull hurt < 1376941031 275052 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it didn't. < 1376941058 279240 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1376941084 25734 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Je pense que ça fait mal. < 1376941098 718109 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't Taneb moving just mean Hexham gets larger? I thought that's how it works. < 1376941118 946662 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-118-53.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I'm negative people < 1376941131 360117 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I mean, geographically larger. < 1376941141 463033 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The population count just monotonically increases anyway. < 1376941249 311674 :^v!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know what < 1376941323 627922 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do? < 1376941435 50104 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what. < 1376941572 764777 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376941592 246752 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: do you know? < 1376941607 751624 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ça a l'air marrant, le douteux =P < 1376941677 742125 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh good they are fixing the thing where extern "C" fn foo() { ... } has type *u8 < 1376941709 37553 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: ouaisp :D bonne bière, bonne bouffe, choses étranges et bizarres, et un film poche à 22h00. < 1376941729 254767 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trop tard pour moi, mind you, mais bon =P < 1376941844 905845 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pareillement for the bad movie, but sinon ça commence aux alentours de 7:30pm, with the main presentation à 20h00. < 1376941887 836512 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we once spontaneously started playing mahjong at a random table, and made a guy from Vancouver twitch. < 1376941924 619764 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he was hearing us shuffling tiles behind his back, and for a moment he was trying to remember where he had heard that sound before :D < 1376941981 415536 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice =P < 1376941985 638516 :nooodl!~nooodl@100.144-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :help mixing français et anglais est confusing < 1376941996 566583 :nooodl!~nooodl@100.144-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :est-ce que c'est always comme ça, living in canada < 1376942031 734632 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :sempre? < 1376942055 643053 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: it depends de où c'est que t'es. last weekend was hard on my brains, where j'avais à expliquer les règles du shōgi en français and in English to players in quelques groups at the same time. < 1376942071 637093 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: the answer is YES < 1376942088 68810 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^v: according to Koen_, the answer is YES. < 1376942104 156054 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay that just sounded weird, since the name of the school is 42 < 1376942105 871711 :^v!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1376942126 386457 :^v!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :42 = answer of life and everything < 1376942128 38124 :Roujo|Android!~AndChat15@out-pq-193.wireless.telus.com QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1376942129 853151 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, all of my friends whom phoen number I still have also got YES < 1376942133 469332 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you asked “do you know”, I asked the same to Koen_, I forwarded you the answer. < 1376942144 854951 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait you weren't interested < 1376942149 903366 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought that was an honest question < 1376942151 11961 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry < 1376942162 534522 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the question was honest. not me. sorry. hth. < 1376942179 59215 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also asked if I could work for them < 1376942186 782542 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :as an assistant, helping students etc < 1376942197 408075 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they were very interested < 1376942213 217414 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but this is fucking France so you know, there's a rule against it < 1376942265 114198 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't be paid because the pay would be too much, I can't be a volunteer because it wouldn't be enough < 1376942275 282322 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1376942282 177221 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: is the feud between walloons and flemishs still strong in Belgium? < 1376942314 976645 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I can't have an internship because I'm not a student yet < 1376942345 366195 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: the joy of CPE? < 1376942351 850435 :nooodl!~nooodl@100.144-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :not *that* strong. these days we just joke about each other, or make sweeping statements about "die walen!" or "ces flamands!" < 1376942355 65842 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not even < 1376942361 886139 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just wanna work < 1376942364 890068 :^v!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :КГҰРЋЮЛЇЋѮ < 1376942369 325220 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's interesting and I've got free time < 1376942375 317978 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't even care whether I'm paid or not < 1376942379 846447 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: well, that's a marked improvement. < 1376942401 182181 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: do as my breton coworkers and sail? < 1376942418 260184 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sail? < 1376942421 134850 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^v: krypto...wut? < 1376942425 939416 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: on a boat. < 1376942437 69840 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is paris < 1376942441 795173 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only boats are on the seine < 1376942446 647371 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they don't move that much < 1376942450 78684 :nooodl!~nooodl@100.144-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :(note: "die walen!" is not a death threat) < 1376942457 862156 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :die, bart. die! < 1376942474 68750 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: mouais. < 1376942486 585335 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: my ssiter used to have a poster of "die another day". I used to always pronunce the die as if it was the german word < 1376942588 301270 :nooodl!~nooodl@100.144-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you live in paris Koen_ < 1376942614 151655 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes no mayne < 1376942618 878813 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I do at the moment < 1376942624 568892 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I will during the school year < 1376942646 160218 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'll probably go *home* for what's left of the summer < 1376942671 943579 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat113.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1376942829 770659 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: Die Gnu Autotools < 1376943206 791628 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1376943244 633883 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ja? < 1376943300 81605 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: I don't have you yet in my The Question Document. care to provide you approximate coördinates and body weigh, please? < 1376943318 145865 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/you a/your a/ < 1376943340 180848 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :36/32/40 < 1376943353 873649 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, wrong measurements < 1376943371 598076 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :180 lbs < 1376943374 43889 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is a first. < 1376943409 856144 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you always use the verb in the place where the noun should go < 1376943415 826556 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :47 north 122 west < 1376943427 617444 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: because it has been codified so. < 1376943432 345256 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: thanks! < 1376943448 641909 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but but it's wrong! < 1376943452 988893 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :can we change code? < 1376943473 453056 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :only if the Esoteric Board of Traditions accepts. < 1376943500 895136 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: hey. you're near Bike! < 1376943518 235204 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it policy to use only 100% beeswax candles in our rituals? < 1376943535 430679 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@154.5.184.233 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376943541 653441 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? beeswax < 1376943543 126223 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :beeswax? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1376943543 553653 :myndzl!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69              | < 1376943543 737563 :myndzl!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69            o/`¯º < 1376943545 373048 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat113.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1376943602 842166 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: if so, it won't be any of yours < 1376943632 461127 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :BBC top story: arbitrary detention of journalists' family members by conspiracy of the US and UK < 1376943635 986255 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :CNN top story: bear attacks < 1376943687 95655 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat113.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fox top story: why isn't the UK just detaining the journalists < 1376943707 513624 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lool < 1376943717 776982 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :tabloid top news story: bear attacks journalists' family members by conspiracy of the US and UK < 1376943729 156851 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :effectively detention of a journalist, isn't it? in that it seems likely he was acting as a proxy for Greenwald (who had also talked about giving the documents and stuff to him or something before?) no better, of course < 1376943729 700791 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat113.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah seriously that greenwald thing is fucked up. < 1376943733 598128 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: uhm... you sure about 47N 122W? I hope it's only a rounding error because it's even more nowhere than hexham. < 1376943734 858219 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(note: my information on this is like a day old) < 1376943799 345801 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck tacoma < 1376943799 684401 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A city of west-central Washington on an arm of Puget Sound south of Seattle. < 1376943807 866089 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat113.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :tacoma isn't that nowhere < 1376943818 470810 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the detention was probably very helpful in the war on terror, so all is good < 1376943855 753846 :myndzl!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e NICK :myndzi < 1376943859 684782 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :carbonado is at 47N 122W < 1376943873 89697 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and no I'm not in carbonado, I just rounded < 1376943939 706204 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat113.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kind of waiting for a government explanation, which i'm sure will be angering < 1376943960 868516 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: rounding to the nearest whole degree is a good way to end up in a completely different place < 1376943982 593917 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but we aren't geocashing here < 1376944001 611074 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: at least give the minutes < 1376944020 437928 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat113.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :never!! < 1376944242 823176 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :11'7.3176" N 17'34.5114" W < 1376944254 88811 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat113.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no doesthiswork! noooooo < 1376944260 229375 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvjcPoiafP0 let's talk about wheels < 1376944306 261623 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: thanks again! < 1376944317 725176 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike: why no? < 1376944319 164454 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 NICK :julius < 1376944330 655570 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat113.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooooo < 1376944332 435268 :julius!~augur@208.58.5.87 NICK :augur < 1376944334 504695 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat113.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1376944335 682059 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: resistance is futile. you will be approximated with a small error. < 1376944338 3050 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :o. < 1376944391 477419 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :with rtk you can get accuracy down to the sub inch level by measuring the phase of the signal < 1376944512 124480 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :( took a class on how to use robots to farm) < 1376944592 532880 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :man i want a john deerebot < 1376944671 140418 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes john deere does sell farming robots < 1376944685 293148 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat113.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nearly convinced my dad to buy a robomower once < 1376944701 134498 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they don't play completely nice with other manufacturers though < 1376945604 394707 :PupUserb46ae5!~PupUserb4@2.26.106.58 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376945617 555873 :PupUserb46ae5!~PupUserb4@2.26.106.58 PART :#esoteric < 1376945748 1318 :atrapado!~dd@95.169.243.36 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1376945926 893115 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-118-53.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1376946148 180344 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat113.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1376946474 795179 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376946594 3099 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat98.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1376946818 92877 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid many to one field. < 1376946828 793045 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :* -> 1 < 1376947139 660166 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :having a standard many2one in OpenERP is easy. but try to customise it, and all fungots break loose. < 1376947139 829159 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: and it's self-modifying techniques." stop immobilizes and disables you. in these bones, i shall return! by the way, the wings! now this is a way to the ocean palace? < 1376947594 723287 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :dat dangling quote < 1376947622 630361 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION dangles fungot by its quotes < 1376947622 775320 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily:. i'm so kind, even to assholes! anmaster no not markov anmaster no not markov < 1376947630 315405 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1376947641 892156 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote no not markov < 1376947643 392626 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :567) Ngevd:. i'm so kind, even to assholes! anmaster no not markov anmaster no not markov anmaster no not markov anmaster no not markov anmaster no not markov < 1376947654 893378 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :first: I'm not an asshole. second: seems it happened before. < 1376947669 651361 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck anmaster < 1376947669 939044 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1376947692 551389 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: = Vorpal < 1376947693 688475 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 555 < 1376947694 998990 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :555) I prefer the N64 controller, it's the only one that has place for my third hand. < 1376947700 773419 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote quote < 1376947702 13384 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :28) i can get an erection out of a plank, you can quote me on that. \ 68) Note that quote number 124 is not actually true. \ 74) let's put that in the HackEgo quotes files, just to completely mystify anyone who looks back along them in the future \ 127) Never ever use a quote which contains both the words "aloofness" a < 1376947707 778948 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Vorpal is an anmaster? < 1376947713 582504 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 124 < 1376947715 119306 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :124) cpressey, oh go to zzo's website. He is NIH AnMaster, really? I was strongly under the impression that zzo was invented here. < 1376947738 612396 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooooooh. Vorpal has a secret identity! < 1376947744 738455 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very secret. < 1376947754 19314 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? secret < 1376947755 552978 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376947756 65054 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :secret? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1376947756 424400 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69             | < 1376947756 651166 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69           º¯`\o < 1376947756 851540 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps quotes should use some sort of numeric identifier that wouldn't keep changing with nicks. < 1376947759 587531 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably not so much secret as previous < 1376947780 119823 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :same thing. succret and previous are only two sides of the same coin. < 1376947807 166022 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :time to go. my brains are mush from too much XML, and I'm starting to make bad puns. < 1376947819 561223 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: *POOF*! < 1376947822 722983 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376947866 956927 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat98.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1376947899 671911 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pub trait VectorVector < 1376948063 181408 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a LaVectorDouble in LAPACK++, but sadly it's not... whatever a VectorVector is (probably), it's just a double-precision vector. < 1376948158 881700 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1376948210 445665 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a trait for vectors of vectors, so the implementations are for &'self [~[T]] and &'self [&'self [T]] < 1376948222 980000 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :beautiful language imo < 1376948233 253098 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there any esolang with region pointers? < 1376948314 233002 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think as long as there is not I will feel justified talking about Rust in here < 1376948442 701455 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1376948454 477831 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you started having obfuscated rust code contests yet? < 1376948461 566017 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good question < 1376948482 77403 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :error: mismatched types: expected `std::iterator::Map<'t,display_list::DisplayItem,(display_list::DisplayItemKey,&'t display_list::DisplayItem),std::vec::VecIterator<'t,display_list::DisplayItem>>` but found `std::iterator::Map<,&display_list::DisplayItem,(display_list::DisplayItemKey,&display_list::DisplayItem),std::vec::VecIterator<,display_list::DisplayItem>>` < 1376948488 95381 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :C++ FLASHBACK < 1376948488 311665 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376948496 64367 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that... rust? < 1376948504 197954 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that's an error message from rustc < 1376948506 429793 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :those are rust types < 1376948728 7835 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You need some sort of a rustfilt, clearly. < 1376948794 723787 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1376948874 169251 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well actually the name mangling in binaries is C++ compatible < 1376948896 126821 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I was thinking of that other thing. < 1376948911 952340 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then there's another layer of mangling too < 1376948918 156078 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1376948918 472099 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :STLFilt. < 1376948925 94073 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1376948927 684629 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be nice < 1376948932 421447 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :these iterators are super new and pretty ugly < 1376948952 727816 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you build and return an iterator by calling some chain of map filter etc, that whole chain is evident in the type of what you return < 1376948962 257999 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a little hard to avoid this in a language which handles allocation the way C++ or Rust does < 1376948965 267735 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but still, eww < 1376948981 265794 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :another engineering class, another sausagefest < 1376949030 2416 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1376949079 536294 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1376949090 613883 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gosh, your classes have already started? < 1376949113 879403 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, the year starts fairly early here i guess. < 1376949124 105908 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm fine with it. schoollessness is dull < 1376949124 959455 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you ever read debra tannen's book on the differing values we set up for women and men? (at least in america) < 1376949133 742027 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have not < 1376949158 591994 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which classes do you have this semester? < 1376949180 309751 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i feel in this case the anecdotal data of "there's only one woman versus twenty-something males in my circuits class" is stark enough for a first analysis < 1376949201 526392 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: intro inorganic chem, intro psych, intro organismal biology, design of logic circuits < 1376949204 609779 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, one thing men are trained is that if you want respect you have to be better than someone else < 1376949225 327602 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess "anecdotal data" is a pretty silly phrase < 1376949235 272304 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :are these like, all neuroscience prereqs? < 1376949235 416902 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think our first exam period (where you can mostly retake things from before summer) starts next week. < 1376949242 946086 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: yeah < 1376949265 828379 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :our year didn't start until late september, because we did three 11-week terms per year, and that makes the holidays line up better < 1376949267 763838 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, except circuits, which is just "let's put some more electricy stuff in there" < 1376949291 785784 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that i'm complaining, i've been looking forward to this one < 1376949301 904614 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this like, where you get to design adders and stuff? < 1376949309 180328 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and one thing women are trained is that if you want to be liked you should be equal and share contributions < 1376949312 272051 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure actually! < 1376949319 431840 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh man, adder architectur < 1376949320 573262 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: oh i've seen these books before, about communication < 1376949332 942299 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i already "know" how to make adders thanks to that one book with mammoths < 1376949338 118224 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had no idea until I shadowed 6.004 that making a fast adder is actually kind of tricky! < 1376949339 217878 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually making one in lab would be cool though < 1376949347 357166 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: yeah i still have no idea how the fancier ones work < 1376949357 470593 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I helped make a 12-bit adder! in Electric! okay so probably I didn't contribute much but still < 1376949361 587004 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you just chain a bunch of adders sequentially then the last one waits for the carry from the second to last, which waits etc. < 1376949365 189460 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1376949376 931848 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think knuth mentions it but i didn't understand his explanation of the other kinds < 1376949391 898954 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: well a carry-select adder is kind of simple, basically let's duplicate the upper half of the adder, do it once assuming 0 carry and also in parallel assuming 1 carry < 1376949397 602152 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then you just mux the outputs by the carry bit at the end < 1376949409 740437 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. yeah. hey that makes sense. < 1376949429 649062 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you can do that recursively (dividing to equal halves each time isn't optimal, since there's more delay on higher bits, but I don't remember exactly what kind of lopsided tree is best) < 1376949438 300903 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hopefully this class will get me a better grasp of terms like "mux", i mean I already know what a multiplexer does but still < 1376949458 468708 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mux is just, like, something that ors together a lot of bits, isn't it? < 1376949471 95471 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh inputs (A,B,S), output A if S=0, B if S=1 < 1376949482 921936 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the simplest mux < 1376949483 875319 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohhh. so it's like a selector < 1376949497 469548 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds like and if-then-else < 1376949501 425519 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so like you have 8 inputs from cache banks, and a selector to say which of the cache banks to use < 1376949506 449567 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a functional if-then-else* < 1376949507 140922 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that's a big mux? < 1376949508 357097 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep it's a hardware if / C ?: operator < 1376949510 411264 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike: yes, and an interesting consequence of that is when you make something really competitive, our men are going to be a lot more comfortable than our women will be. < 1376949524 342070 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made that ripple-carry addler in OpenTTD, does that count as doing electronics? < 1376949533 260317 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can straightforwardly expand A,B to be n-way buses, and you can also expand S to be n bits and have 2^N inputs instead of just 2 < 1376949548 650367 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :CPUs have lots of muxes because they have to route data around differently, depending on the instruction < 1376949568 949933 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the C language doesn't have a function switch? < 1376949604 504087 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1376949612 716316 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1376949620 782899 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Received a 10 MB XLSX. Seems to contain one sheet with about 50 x 30 #baffling" bioinformatics is a scary science < 1376949661 990141 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, up to four women now. < 1376949721 662952 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: this sounds kind of oversimplified but i guess it's something < 1376949738 952793 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1376949754 928874 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376949760 79508 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, it is an oversimplification because irc doesn't have room for essays < 1376949763 151998 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This adder design can be complemented with a carry-lookahead adder structure to generate the MUX inputs, thus gaining even greater performance as a parallel prefix adder while potentially reducing area" see, like this, i don't even know what "area" means really, like how do you calculate it < 1376949766 368569 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a crying shame that you can't do something like ({ switch (x) { ... } }) kind of thing with GCC statement expressions, because the last statement in the block needs to be an expression statement in order for the construct to have a (non-void) value. < 1376949768 787676 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: granted < 1376949812 417407 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I think it's just, like, the space your circuit takes up when you actually go draw out the transistors and wires? < 1376949827 624888 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but i've never seen a non-abstract wiring diagram < 1376949855 883392 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know how you work out things like "well these two wires have to be x distance apart to avoid crosstalk" < 1376949866 66669 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're design rules, I think < 1376949882 432436 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, in the program I used there were restrictions like that, and rules about how you had to place wires and how large N/P doped areas had to be? < 1376949892 657328 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there was a checker that would tell you if you were breaking the rules and where < 1376949901 745212 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, that's why i'm in class, and you already have your bs :p < 1376949926 813337 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'll probably know wayyy more than me when I'm done, I have like near-zero actual experience <.< < 1376949964 996654 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's kind of funny asking questions in class. i think my psych prof thinks i'm a confused pre-med because i kept asking about the difference between clinical and research psychology < 1376949997 164726 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1376950048 802549 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically wiring the thing kinda felt like playing a video game, like a puzzle game where you had to do something according to certain restrictions < 1376950054 58942 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :on that note, he mentioned that they get most of their guinea pigs for research from a requirement for 101 students to participate in research, so that's great < 1376950058 290302 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: yeah and it's np-complete isn't it < 1376950103 452927 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :TAs TBD, grader TBD, lab time TBD. what the hecks < 1376950173 253327 :Pouti!adce5656@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.206.86.86 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376950196 360031 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like um, for example I have no idea how clocks work at all like I know there's a clock signal and it goes throughout the chip but how does it even I don't understand < 1376950201 826456 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like how does it make things do stuff < 1376950211 390289 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you will probably learn this <.< < 1376950213 553832 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that will be interesting to learn < 1376950222 386106 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :clockless circuits seem pretty interesting to me < 1376950228 95497 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(neuro!!!) < 1376950261 937201 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or do like, do clocks only plug into SRAM cells representing the data at the start/end of each clock cycle? < 1376950275 796479 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like SRAM -> one clock worth of computation -> SRAM -> one clock worth of computation [...] < 1376950281 348104 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike: programmer culture is fairly hierarchal because some people are a lot better at it than others (observe the oneupsmanship to establish a hierarchy that goes on when two programmers meet and have to work on a project together). But I wonder if there is a social structure that gets just as many cool things made, but doesn't need as much confrontation. < 1376950284 853173 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has idea and is totally guessing < 1376950296 487185 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :professor doesn't know what the class is called. lol. < 1376950301 30912 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*has no idea < 1376950337 627180 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: i think the meritocratic nature of the field is often overplayed < 1376950385 818807 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :overplayed by people participating or people talking about it? < 1376950393 707005 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :both i guess < 1376950410 317031 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clock_tree#Distribution "Most synchronous digital systems consist of cascaded banks of sequential registers with combinational logic between each set of registers. The functional requirements of the digital system are satisfied by the logic stages." < 1376950419 152244 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I... I think I was right? o_o < 1376950431 805022 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :u skilled grrrrl < 1376950454 157734 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome pouti < 1376950456 444661 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​08pouti14: W09elcome to the internati12o05nal hu09b for09 es06oteric pr09og02rammin09g lan08guage des03ign05 and deploymen14t11! For more 12inf12ormat02ion, check out our 08wiki: h14ttp06:/07/esolangs.org/wiki/M05ain_06Pa13ge. (For the10 other kind of esoterica, t13ry 09#esote04ric on 13irc.dal.net.) < 1376950459 63334 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was just guessing based on my tiny bit of knowledge about verilog ;_; < 1376950502 480307 :Pouti!adce5656@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.206.86.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo and HackEgo : Hello! < 1376950515 279935 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1376950625 941829 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^ < 1376950692 785141 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a smily face, or are you pointing up? < 1376950703 964044 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's both < 1376950762 873663 :Pouti!adce5656@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.206.86.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo : So, working on some interesting project? < 1376950811 76651 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I have an IRC bot that I should be fixing < 1376950819 134966 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's in Java, so I'd rather not talk about it here < 1376950829 348835 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lest I draw the ires of elliott < 1376950844 905014 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about you? =P < 1376950852 84426 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you considered switching to scala/ < 1376950954 925057 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1376951158 685648 :Pouti!adce5656@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.206.86.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Many projects, none related to programmation at this moment < 1376951203 336337 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :prof is comparing FPGAs to freshmen. good prof < 1376951264 24866 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I stayed up all night once doing PCB layout as a puzzle game < 1376951277 933372 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to connect all the points and you can use red wires and blue wires and you can't cross two wires of the same color < 1376951282 175035 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice and abstract :) < 1376951290 119382 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think VLSI layout is a lot harder but I don't know < 1376951333 194372 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: that sounds super similar, we had two metals (wires) and so on < 1376951343 165543 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :«we have [a NES chip someone designed in class] somewhere internally, apparently it's "illegal"» < 1376951367 564609 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember the professor explaining that like, each metal was a layer in the chip, so more metals would be more costly to fabricate < 1376951371 200652 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: haha < 1376951512 708593 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :he just described an executable as something that "constrains a processor to run a certain program", oh man < 1376951585 137270 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the 6.004 labs include optimizing your logic for speed < 1376951587 586897 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is pretty fun < 1376951599 365163 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lots and lots of little tweaks to eliminate gates from the critical path < 1376951613 988580 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course IRL you have to optimize for speed, area, power consumption, yield, etc. all at once < 1376951633 253907 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gosh, that sounds really fun I wish I had taken something like that < 1376951658 698597 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :for this class we have to buy an FPGA board instead of a textbook, so, lookin' p. cool < 1376951668 666904 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: you can! i "took" this class in that I downloaded the labs and did them < 1376951680 523795 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION plays the twilight zone theme < 1376951682 168043 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might be on OpenCourseWare but it's often better to just find the course website < 1376951718 867688 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: that sounds really cool! um, do you know where I can find it <.< < 1376951725 506950 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://6004.mit.edu/ see "Handouts" and "Courseware" < 1376951736 932196 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have this logic simulator JSim which is... not great, but bearable < 1376951741 79355 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I recommend using an external editor < 1376951752 542712 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it like simulates at the gate level, and will draw the logic timing diagrams < 1376951754 644315 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, i've used jsim, it's ok < 1376951760 452219 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it can simulate analog stuff SPICE style < 1376951774 450217 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first lab is all about like "let's see how transistors are in fact analog devices and then, oh god, pretend they aren't" < 1376951785 50008 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :good sell, kmc. good sell < 1376951815 252630 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, no, i used mars and logisim < 1376951840 693268 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :logisim was pretty boring but worked well enough < 1376951971 470582 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :why did i even mention mars. < 1376952460 23898 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw if anybody can explain to me how bipolar junction transistors work, and how field effect transistors work < 1376952463 37761 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :using small words < 1376952463 834072 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be cool < 1376952744 125008 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's magic < 1376952754 847502 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they stuff them full of crushed fairy wings < 1376953117 576153 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c0/FET_comparison.png um, I'm not sure if I'm right but < 1376953158 399836 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the idea seems to be that voltages applied to the sides move around the electrons in the transistor so that the top-bottom route becomes passable to electrons, or not < 1376953219 122668 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1376953230 892678 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are so many kinds and modes >_> < 1376953299 36362 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well like one kind moves around electrons, another moves around holes, and so on, I think? < 1376953326 629132 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's easy enough I suppose < 1376953499 249300 :Pouti!adce5656@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.206.86.86 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1376953520 523983 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION suddenly envisions integrated circuits of black holes < 1376953574 754678 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1376953644 773140 :^v!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION suddenly smashed his vision with a hammer < 1376953676 989820 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think i will recommend that. < 1376953754 355289 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: so I guess, like, "field effect" refers to how the electromagnetic fields drag the electrons in this material out of the way, changing the conductivity? < 1376953778 48287 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that's it, at least... < 1376954203 912258 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1376955174 249790 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376955472 991235 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376955591 696724 :iamfishhead!~jgoldste@192.147.44.15 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds