< 1377821825 430765 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one interesting thing about natural languages is that less surprising information is placed towards the beginning of a sentence, and more surprising towards the end < 1377821843 930578 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that actually true in general < 1377821873 817807 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and is that actually a property of languages or simply a human propensity to express surprise in a, well, surprising manner < 1377821875 672439 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this might be an attempt to smooth out the bit of information conveyed per secend < 1377821906 861912 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :or simply because of the amount of buildup required to deliver a surprise means that changing the order of the sentence won't move the surprise < 1377821946 871383 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork, or it might be one of the three alternate explanations just presented < 1377821964 324135 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there data involved here < 1377821974 529808 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this true of japanese which has a lot in the opposite order of western languages < 1377821982 880401 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :afaiu < 1377822279 214074 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: japanese is in topic comment order is indeed different from english's subject predicate order < 1377822306 759832 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but what I"m talking about are the situations where there is more than one phasing availible < 1377822365 968495 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1377822450 358100 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like "the cub scouts will hold the car wash despite the rain" vs "despite the rain the car wash will still be held by the cub scouts" vs "the car wash will still be held by the cubscouts despite the rain" < 1377822489 278416 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they communicate the same thing but seem to imply a different preceding conversation < 1377822497 67234 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^each < 1377822533 467649 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the latter does not sound any less natural to me < 1377822550 830689 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, except in that i'd expect it to be phrased "despite the rain the cub scouts will still hold the car wash" < 1377822606 155088 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're right that is more natural < 1377822726 793540 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :were you expecting the latter to sound less natural? < 1377822812 802100 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well like you've given an example but you've done nothing to convince me that this supposed effect favours the former phrasing < 1377822848 11040 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :different phrasings would be favored in different situations < 1377822850 90294 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, seriously, does this effect actually exist < 1377823041 806771 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike: it will take me awhile to find you a citation because it was in my textbook < 1377823358 779787 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :great, nvidia GL library seems to map itself with rwx permissions < 1377823367 314953 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuckers < 1377823400 238039 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork, (sorry, but with linguistics especially people keep presenting dumb armchair speculation) < 1377823402 350790 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol. < 1377823407 702436 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ditto phantom < 1377823425 849762 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :information content of language is an interesting thing but rather easy to fuck up < 1377823440 22474 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/PHP/comments/1l7baq/creating_a_user_from_the_web_problem/ < 1377823453 278997 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :still good < 1377823498 549153 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can find a prescriptive recomendation to put old knowledge first, but I haven't found proof that that is what people do in natural speach < 1377823523 538807 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, it sounds like the kind of thing that would take a big corpus and a lot of boring interpretation by human researches < 1377823534 21707 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :researches* not that linguists don't do that, i mean < 1377823551 966134 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_ < 1377823615 287989 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, gold < 1377823637 939186 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the most baffling part of that link is that there are serious, helpful responses < 1377823682 94233 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe that people put the old information first when ordering clauses, as much as the syntax of their language allows. < 1377823892 860385 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because a professor of linguistics assumed so, and because it seems a reasonable thing for people to do for a variety of reasons. < 1377823931 151387 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :see that's a pretty broad claim < 1377823974 740971 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, and I don't have the statistical tools to prove it < 1377823978 616178 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially the 'as much as the syntax allows' part < 1377824063 763055 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :english has quite fixed word order, so some orderings that would work in spanish are not natural english sentences < 1377824180 895513 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377824291 22706 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now this is just depressing, in a 'failing to learn' way < 1377824291 839319 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/PHP/comments/1l7baq/creating_a_user_from_the_web_problem/cbwj0r2 < 1377824302 615772 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're actually reading it < 1377824331 480749 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should try this http://www.dvwa.co.uk/ < 1377824771 50895 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike: no proof here either but references to people who first assumed it http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2012/applying-information-theory-to-linguistics-1010.html < 1377824837 757563 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1377824861 778597 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's positively lovely how bad these sorts of articles always are < 1377824869 403079 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"information theory — the discipline that gave us digital communication" < 1377824877 689069 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tell me Bike < 1377824886 554822 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how common are puns on "PNAS" < 1377824905 557870 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think most people make the one and kind of give up after that < 1377824908 281828 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just, too obvious. < 1377824958 425757 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there any Coq papers in PNAS < 1377825010 590489 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think th- oh, i get it < 1377825019 138334 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::☺) < 1377825109 503294 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :« our “open-source” large-scale (∼1 L/h) 129Xe polarizer for clinical, preclinical, and materials NMR and MRI research» i love the future < 1377825170 951244 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's an L < 1377825179 872275 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :um i have no idea. < 1377825208 748846 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.pnas.org/content/110/35/14150.abstract < 1377825221 145267 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a paper called "Core foundations of abstract geometry" that isn't math. awesome. < 1377825233 706117 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it about Core Foundation < 1377825258 726051 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :psychology < 1377825268 899181 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh so it's basically about maths < 1377825276 512696 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1377825359 772385 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In this study, we performed continuous electroencephalography in rats undergoing experimental cardiac arrest " jesus christ < 1377825380 23364 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :has science gone too far < 1377825404 381755 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :those cute little rats!! < 1377825445 497596 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :c'mon man, not even ancaps deserve a fate like that < 1377825480 657565 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you suggesting i give ancaps heart attacks to see what their brains do < 1377825538 932636 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1377825541 862329 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1377825557 924628 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377825759 347352 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd imagine ancaps would be more fun to put in a large labyrinth with various resources. < 1377825785 277072 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :assuming it's the abbreviation i think it is < 1377825901 718700 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :this guy can head the project http://girlgenius.wikia.com/wiki/Doctor_Mittelmind < 1377826149 977872 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i imagine you'd end up with a grimmer eve online < 1377826175 147054 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mittelmind is one of my favorite characters < 1377826607 471657 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377827026 798874 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1377827097 507279 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377827132 592294 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1377827466 792124 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377828513 25926 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1377829155 249509 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/keepassx/+bug/1214844 *facepalm* < 1377829284 564497 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377829285 205450 :^v!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1377829296 676647 :^v!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any characters in your password that are not found in codepage 1252 are silently squashed to '?' < 1377829309 758721 :^v!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats fucking hilarious < 1377829379 554217 :trout!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :variable < 1377829451 296289 :^v!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION slaps variable with a trout < 1377829466 511042 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :my twin! < 1377829493 608713 :^v!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(({("XSRX;GSA@uGS0Xd;]"):gsub("(.)",function(c) return string.char(49+((string.byte(c)*1337)%75)):gsub("_"," ") end)})[1].." "):rep(20) < 1377829493 788991 :^v!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : <-- put this into a lua prompt < 1377829504 281228 :^v!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i maed some obufuscated lua cod < 1377829579 13832 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.171.15 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1377830437 925506 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1377830538 181225 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Skimming an old report on Snobol" at least someone on the internet understands me. < 1377830621 360326 :monotone_!~monotone@room208.org NICK :polytone < 1377831966 203726 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1377832186 726095 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1377832187 190328 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ideone.com/jw9i6s < 1377832190 812682 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't seem to do much < 1377832219 364463 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :whaddya mean, it says returned zero right there < 1377832288 196158 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :perfectly respectable thing to return < 1377832438 554684 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, gsub apparently treats string patterns as, well, literal strings, rather than interpreting them as regexes. < 1377832441 573726 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that the problem? < 1377832503 649852 :anarckhia!~anarckhia@79-133-9-205.bredband.aland.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377834157 806770 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: https://plus.google.com/108532745084733145449/posts/gzLPnqH8HHH < 1377834508 844520 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1377837757 404001 :c33333!~androirc@216.66.74.22 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377837816 443090 :c33333!~androirc@216.66.74.22 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looking for esoteric, nirgle, fusion or mikeh < 1377838872 397561 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1377842017 314346 :lekrel!6570a793@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.112.167.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377842036 446210 :lekrel!6570a793@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.112.167.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've decided to put up an interesting challenge. It has more to do with cryptography but also related to programming. Here is what you ought to do in order to complete it: 1. Generate a 192-bit triple DES ciphertext using your alias as the key and plaintext for the encryption, 2. Write a Malbolge program that would output the ciphertext < 1377842041 316346 :lekrel!6570a793@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.112.167.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :3. PM me the key (a.k.a your alias) along with the malbolge program source < 1377842044 268718 :lekrel!6570a793@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.112.167.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'll need an interpreter/compiler for the malbolge part. Good luck. < 1377842046 846405 :^v!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1377842322 158837 :lekrel!6570a793@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.112.167.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone? < 1377843045 196231 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua JOIN :#esoteric < 1377843580 310050 :c33333!~androirc@216.66.74.22 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1377846226 703875 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: :D < 1377846312 529791 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was actually built in the 30s though < 1377846370 591405 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377847243 648394 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means that during the 1960s, it was (already) built < 1377847295 247169 :lekrel!6570a793@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.112.167.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone? < 1377847407 479520 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"For security reasons, the effect of MALLOC_CHECK_ is disabled by default for set-user-ID and set-group-ID programs. However, if the file /etc/suid-debug exists (the content of the file is irrelevant), then MALLOC_CHECK_ also has an effect for set-user-ID and set-group-ID programs." < 1377847431 193434 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, why would that be? < 1377847439 595744 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which? < 1377847446 126148 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :disabling it for SUID I guess? < 1377847449 702725 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, setuid < 1377847505 696278 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess so that setuid programs can be compiled with checking enabled and an attacker can't disable it as part of exploiting a security hole < 1377847541 360589 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but didn't that say it was disabled for setuid? < 1377847542 643918 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not enabled < 1377847552 191432 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the environment variable is disabled < 1377847564 370890 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, I did not paste the whole context < 1377847568 241696 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohhhhh < 1377847583 376262 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the environment variable lets you toggle it? < 1377847600 157277 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is from mallopt(3); programs can call this function to change malloc behavior, but also some of the settings have env vars < 1377847632 319724 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but for setuid programs the env vars are ignored < 1377847719 62294 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Openwall has no setuid binaries ^_^ < 1377847747 22620 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :openwall? < 1377847752 532341 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they got the Linux kernel to provide an ICMP socket type so that ping would not be setuid < 1377847761 212333 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a security-focused linux distribution < 1377847765 473467 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahhh < 1377847915 491455 :lekrel!6570a793@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.112.167.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've decided to put up an interesting challenge. It has more to do with cryptography but also related to programming. Here is what you ought to do in order to complete it: 1. Generate a 192-bit triple DES ciphertext using your alias as the key and plaintext for the encryption, 2. Write a Malbolge program that would output the ciphertext < 1377847920 420336 :lekrel!6570a793@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.112.167.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :3. PM me the key (a.k.a your alias) along with the malbolge program source < 1377847925 557925 :lekrel!6570a793@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.112.167.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'll need an interpreter/compiler for the malbolge part. Good luck. < 1377848036 973034 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1377848331 678820 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does anyone know a data structure for representing transitive closures? < 1377848381 11750 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. I want to represent that a < b and b < c and efficiently find that a < c < 1377848479 969726 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would ideally like constant time, up to the underlying (tree, hash, etc.) data structure < 1377848681 438448 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about just storing the transitive closure as an adjacency matrix < 1377848853 36634 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://thoughtstreams.io/glyph/string-trepanation/ < 1377849905 952888 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lekrel: are you mafingre/etc.? < 1377849939 172094 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm same country but different ISP < 1377850654 790569 :lekrel!6570a793@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.112.167.147 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1377850686 531192 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1377850744 118042 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: dbus-driven mechanisms to give ping CAP_NET_RAW hth < 1377851481 585110 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377852214 899539 :SingingBoyo!~Brandon@154.5.184.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377852449 187967 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Too many workers requested. The job requires 44, but the cluster with profile 'Triton_latest_local' supports maximum of 4." < 1377852453 145432 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, damnable MDCS. < 1377854468 260243 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stay away from Triton, I've been trying to get practically anything to run there for weeks. < 1377854605 331865 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :attempt no landings there < 1377854684 623283 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1377854802 754148 :SingingBoyo!~Brandon@154.5.184.233 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1377855071 867661 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :All these other wo^H^Hclusters are okay, though? < 1377855100 106477 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Knock yourself out. < 1377855174 623367 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I don't understand: I ran the MDCS thing with matlabpool(44) and -- according to squeue -- it tried to allocate 44 *nodes*; I tried again with matlabpool(4) and it ran on one node with 4 workers; so I went with 8 and 12, and those mapped into 8 and 12 nodes again. < 1377855206 69066 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess maybe the "nodes" field of squeue has different meanings for pending and running jobs. < 1377855233 908600 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Based on http://sprunge.us/XFRW anyway. < 1377855253 349556 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(This is going to take ages parallelized to 8 tasks only.) < 1377855266 235237 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's... strange. < 1377855348 90389 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It runs with --exclusive, don't know if that makes a difference. < 1377855349 500448 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe the matlab stuff does strange things. < 1377855367 806560 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's certainly very flaky. < 1377855398 945142 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think a lot of people are running MATLAB jobs outside MDCS, which, as far as I know, is explicitly against the license terms. < 1377858806 149257 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.171.15 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377859541 355426 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1377860929 661094 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377861846 965819 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377861864 288691 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1377862146 734785 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1377862676 478118 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377863153 927041 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377863186 316591 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1377863671 517306 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1377863732 315639 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377865166 746156 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1377867151 561281 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1377867498 243834 :anarckhia!~anarckhia@79-133-9-205.bredband.aland.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1377867726 89751 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377867772 361848 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heya boily < 1377867777 597803 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Question for you < 1377867795 656615 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Say I want to put in a multi-line script into HackEgo... How do I do that? < 1377867806 16097 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you echo multi-line files? < 1377867838 196452 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooooï! < 1377867864 149500 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo -e "My hovercraft\nIt is full of eels." < 1377867865 533237 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :My hovercraft \ It is full of eels. < 1377867885 230933 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: yes, it works. the «\» is a newline indicator. < 1377867903 288089 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice < 1377867970 475192 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, there's a command to slurp up a script from the web or something, but I can't remember it. < 1377867982 547079 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: is it still possible to do something like that ↑? < 1377868206 364259 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377868224 247395 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmm... My changes won't go through =/ < 1377868230 652054 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cat < 1377868232 675500 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cats are cool, but should be illegal. < 1377868251 312173 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo Cats are cool, and should be illegal. > wisdom/cat